Literally no good can come from having AI involved with video games
>>739485145can someone make ai nudes of that journalist
Laterally extremely low quality thread.
2024 ahh thread
>>739485145Literally no good can come from having AI
>rice picker tells you that combine harvesters are for faggots
>>739485145AI is a tool. In the hands of low Iq Indians it’s obviously only going to produce dogshit
Has AI improved anything?
AI is good for quick n' easy porn, when you just gotta have it. Otherwise it always looks like shit and all of it has the obviously AI look to it. The technology isn't advanced enough yet but it'll get there eventually in a decade.
>>739485395It has improved the easiness of Indians getting H1B visas, just call yourself a prompt engineer and voila!
>>739485145Seething luddite.
AI is good because sometimes you don't really want to log in and sweat your ass against other players so you play against AI instead, hope that helps
>>739485395Yeah, my 4chan browsing experience.I vibecoded this script that hides posts based on a perceptual image hash.You need Violentmonkey and 4chan XTThen shift+click on a thread or post's image to add it to the filter.https://pastebin.com/AwsJFFEc
It took Claude over 1 year to beat Pokemon Red. Oh yeah? You thought the other AI beat it much faster? They all cheated. Only Claude did it the legitimate way. AI is a fucking joke. It's probably why all those retarded companies keep trying to make live service extraction shit.
>>739485596Americans are pussies for not using their guns for once
>>739485145>AI for writing>A OK>AI for Art>NNNOOOOOOOOOO
>>739485654claude also cheated, it had a harness and a navigation tool. wake me up when claudes hooked up to a robot and its playing on a physical gameboy in real time
>>739485395Yes
>>739485395I have made tons of cool things for myself thanks to aibeing able to create working code for microcontrollers instantly is awesome
>>739485145I mean it's all advocacy journalism anyway. The "poor downtrodden artist who can't pay off his six figure student loans has his career threatened by genAI" is a good human angle story for his journalist friend. And it's controversial enough to drive clicks. Win-win for everyone involved. Even if the piece does nothing but stirr a little shit.
>>739485642lmao look at this pussy millenniunc snowflake needing filters so his feefees dont get hurt on 4chud
Strauss Zelnick of take-two recently weighed in on AI saying it's a useful tool to help speed up certain aspects of development but that it's not capable of making an original big hit such as GTA because all it can do is clone things from existing data.
>>739486029Wonderful seething, I bet you're a frogposter. I will never see your frogposts again.
fucking eldritch horrors
AI is good. Complaining about it is like complaining about computers
>>739485486Better train your own model, the big models are going to cost 1 PC a month in subscription in the future.
>>739485145It would have made a better game than Mixtape.
>>739486227
>>739485395there was a brief period when I was free to use on wierd chinese site to generate weird pic and video but that last like 2 month and it went to paywall shit and coom fest
>>739485708who are you quoting?
>>739485395I had some good nuts by using Grok but of course its pile of shit now
>>739485395Yes. Lots of jeets get fired as theres no need for vibe coding curry shitters when the ai does it without smelling bad or molesting women
>>739485145I look forward to AI voice acting in rpg games. Unfortunately I don't trust a company cheap enough to employ AI voice acting to not also be cheap enough to have AI writing. I'm not saying morrowind should have been voice acted, I'm just saying I don't know if a remake could get away with not being voice acted.
>>739485145AI will change the world.
>>739485332and actual application of your metaphorical AI is indians making curry sludge in a big pot and using tractor's crane to stir poisoning it with hydralic fluid. saar machine improve food production.
>>739485145nothing wrong with a little AI
>>739486487lol
Stop gatekeeping art.
>>739485395Its gotten a bunch of leftists fired from the gaming industry.
>>739485395Better question: have we lost anything valuable because of it?
>>739486256How much daily do you need to use for it to cost this much?
>>739485145Its more creative to use AI to create an asset than it is just to pay someone else to do it.
>>739486748stackoverflow, chegg, SEO blogspam, ESL detection
>>739486650Emphasis on the word "little". It must be well curated instead of spamming every iterations
>>739486748yes, we're running out of water
>>739486378good times
>>739485708If you use Spellchecker you are literally Hitler.
>>739486809that depends on who is going to consume your garbage
>>739486579It's insane that youtube still doesn't allow you to block specific channels from the search feed. I get AI channels every time I search for Linux videos.
>>739485145>I'm CREATIVE>*makes capeshit*sure thing sweatie, add some dragons to it now
>>739486806>Stackoverflow>"Duplicate question, closing. Use the search function next time."
>>739486254We'll see how you still feel about it when everything is too expensive for you to afford because the surveillance centers jacked up the price of food and energy.
>>739486856Says a lot about Linux, huh?
>>739485395>Has AI improved anything?i use it for work when i forget certain config files or cli commands. instead of looking through documentation i get what im looking for plus explaination in a few seconds. its really convenient to cut out all the fluff. im also impressed how it knows about different caveats such as changes and bugs for different os or firmware versions. that being said. this is like only really a productivity increas from 2-5 to 30 seconds wich imma use to slack off anyways.anywhere lese ai has not really improved anything, maybe porn.
>>739486940Just continue to give companies leverage for raising prices.Like they ain't taking Covid into consideration to this day.
>>739486942There's an increasing demand for Linux content but not enought creators, so jeets are taking advantage of the situation.
>>739485145>we don't need AI>why's that?>our market is eceleb dick suckers>oh right so it islol
>>739485395it did, when developers still knew how to make good gamesthat's why they're so afraid of it
Or maybe redefining creativity to suit your propaganda isn't very creative.
>>739486781Yes but you have to pay me for drawing basic texture patterns.
>>739485145If you aren't a creative person, half-assed prompt of a loser lacking any skill will only lead to more AI slop.AI won't magically inject 'creativity' or 'awesomeness' or make the result appealing.
>>739485707>entire nation is armed to the teeth>literally the most cucked people on the planet
>>739485395You mean apart from the infinite amount of furry porn I can generate?I'm pretty sure it's used in basically every scientific field at this point.>Can code>Can bug fix>Can simulate >Can make medical diagnosis >Can optimise logistics At this point it would be faster to name anything it can't do. For example, it can't make you a woman.
>>739487246some illiterate loser can make Twitter artists lose their shit, that's worth something right?
>>739487246Problem there is AI only appeals to uncreative people
>>739487308Is it? I can probably do that without the AI.
>>739486856Doesn't the triple dot function have a report/don't recommend/show channel feature? Surely there's a browser extension for it somewhere too.
>>739485395Child sex abuse material has increased by 2000%, so apparently the pedophiles love it For normal people? Ai has done nothing and the industry is collapsing fast
>>739487350yeah but a 1000 pajeets can cause more trauma than you can, even if you dedicated your life to that shit
>>739485145He's not wrong. Chinese, Indians and other uncreative people love AI the most because they have no ideas or originality. AI can be a tool for people with ideas, for subhumans however it is and always be a crutch and ask they churn out with it is shit.
The only thing I personally dislike about AI is how quickly its turning into payslop. I was hoping we'd have at least half a decade before the enshitification kicked in.
>>739487404>character is 17 years and 11 months old >"SHE'S JUST A CHILD!"
>>739485395There's been a bunch of medical breakthroughs thanks to it, but the LLMs needed for those breakthroughs could be run locally and don't need to directly eject poison into local water supplies.
>>739485395I don't know about improving, but there's been three use cases in AI that I think have been pretty good.1) Neural Viz, he's a Youtuber who makes short films using AI for the visuals and voices. It's the kind of thing that pre-AI you'd need a small team of animators and voice actors to make, but he's a one man team from what I gather.2) Doug Doug, he's a streamer whose made a bunch of streams based around AI, mostly counting on the fact it only mostly works and having strange use-cases to make it fail in funny ways.3) Neuro-sama, she's an AI vtuber. I've mostly seen clips of collabs, but she's an example of an AI with a personality who has trained to be entertaining rather than """helpful""". Though this one most of all I doubt AI haters will be swayed by.
>>739487451I don't care about corporate services. I only care about local models.
>>739487451Yes, Americans are violently mentally ill. All of them. Great job figuring that out.
>>739487326>be me>creative writer, have some plots and characters written around>occasionally do things like prompting an AI by feeding info on my characters and setting>found a lot of inspiration just by doing thisidk what you are talking about, it werks on my machine. You can create a solid feedback loop.
>>739487274Most guns are in the hands of a minority of people. The average American doesn't own a gun or has ever fired one.
>>739487459No, actual pedophiliaNot your weird lolicon pedophile cope game that youre already playingBut actual 3dpd
>>739487512Not as mentally ill as Europeans, but the apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess.
>>739487274Trump placated the rednecks crazy enough to do it. The fact that those people in the deep red are completely fine with Trump hailing CEOs, bringing in smart robots and worshipping Israel, is the most fucked up thing imaginable. It takes deranged leftists trying to take him out and other high profile people to see some semblance of anything tangible in America, and not just all these gay funded protests that are just entirely posed as false flags meant to deter real people from protesting once certain paid individuals chimp out and ruin everything.
>>739487523Grok bikinis?
>>739485145>dispatch guy talking shit about being creative>his movie is just dick, sex and cuss wordsWow bro... so creative... incredible...
>refreshingShe must be feeling the pressure of AI replacing journalist that write sensational opinion pieces.
>>739487578I don't use Twitter, sorry
>>739487598You download child porn on the deep web?
>>739485841What the fuck does Bangalore time matter if the street shitter was in the US?
>>739485145Not true. It can scare off the worst kind of people.
>>739487637I am not a pedophile.
>>739487545This is the kind of nonsense Americans have to tell themselves just to sleep at night. Absolutely insane.
>>739487710You most likely are though.
>>739487404Is it really child abuse if there's no child?
>>739487760You're just coping because I criticized AI.
>>739487772Its material depicting the sexual abuse of children, like Lolicon.
>>739487783no
>>739487808Sure, but lolicon isn't child abuse, because they aren't real children.
>>739487836That's what depiction means.
>>739487757What do you mean? You think hate speech laws are normal because you think immigrants are worth more than the natives. You're legit mentally ill.
>>739487375"Don't recommend channel" applies only to recommendations. Not search results.
>>739487808Doesn't that it mean that GTA is abusive because it depicts violence?
>>739487941It depicts violence.Is English your first language?You can just look the word depict up.
>>739487884If it's not abuse, then it doesn't depict abuse though.
>>739485145>Literally no good can come from having AIAI made it easier to spot jeets online.
>>739487970>>739487967
>>739487451It's just way too fucking expensive since every company simultaneously decided that videos, and especially text, mattered more than anything else when those require the most amount of memory and compute. On top of offering really shitty services that get nerfed and neutered, and for some reason not having any security measures to keep people from having 20 accounts spamming until their free uses are done for the day. OpenAI has been basically running on government handouts and big tech partners, trying to stay afloat doing this shit. All while pretending they're not doing it for profit, which they completely stopped giving a fuck about within the first couple years. As fast as AI moved we for some reason had to also move up the quality and offer it for free to people that don't even know how to prompt. I mean when sarcasm on the internet is basically dead, how are people ever going to know their emotionally charged prompt will have a bot spit out false information. Along with everyone and their grandmother being able to put out zero effort prompts and post them everywhere in the hundreds. Now people just use it as a pipeline to get a piece of the internet monetization pie by shitting out as much slop as possible rather than at least putting 10 seconds of effort into it. The sheer amount of instant gratification this shit teaches is exactly why the usage is making every company put up their red flags and start charging way more. Gotta pay off overinflated prices of hardware from 5+ years ago somehow.
>>739487967GTA depicts violence. It's a video game that has graphic depictions of extreme violence. What's the problem retard?
>>739487892Nobody's going to forget 2020
>>739488035Nothing idiot, you replied to me.Loli art is a depiction, a representation, of children being sexually abused.
>>739485395It's made people hate Indians even more, that's always a bonus.
>>739487504Good luck running those on hardware you can no longer afford. You will rent computing power.
>>739488049Europeans legit thought that this was the smartest thing Americans ever did. They're that mentally ill.
>>739488070GTA has several representations of people being killed. That should mean it qualifies as abusive material. Why can't you explain why you think that is inaccurate?
>>739488079>Maintain a github project>90% of shit PRs are from indians.>The rest are from other middle-eastern sandniggersYou're goddamn right.
>>739488070But it's not Child abuse material like you claimed here >>739487404
"Yea i'd like a roided mommy demon in ~2 weeks. i'll pay $450">"sorry my mom died...">"sorry im stressed..">2 years later>"oh? i dont remember lol"
>>739488130I didn't bring up "abusive material".I didn't say lolicon was abusive material, I didn't say GTA was abusive material, I said they contain depictions of abuse.Seriously, ESL?
>>7394880928 GB is all the VRAM you need.
>>739485547>It has improved the easiness of Indians getting H1B visasApparently it didnt, there's been a steady influx of them since 2019 to the point there's 9 millions of them now
>>739488097>mfw telling americans black people aren't gods
>>739488189you were talking about CSAM, which is abusive material
>>739486423Commission Artists.
>>739488164Its material depicting the abuse of children.>>739488234What is your point?
>>739488226It's the Anglo genes that are like that. In England the natives worship Muslims that rape their children.
>>739487970Wait... Does that mean the depiction of murder imply artists kill characters everyday?!How are they not in jail?
>>739485145seething about AI is so 2024>>739485275...in the opposite world.
>>739488226What happened to white people? They went from ruling half the world to kissing black people's feet (literally).
>>739488256my point is that you don't understand what you're talking about because you're retarded
>>739488275Oh god I just realized how much rape is writer on AO3.Oh god... what is wrong with writers???
>>739488271Anglos worship whoever conquers them. I don't remember Tyrone taking over America.
>>739485486>alwaysNo it doesn't, that's a retarded term. If it always looked like shit, then ">muh rEaL artists" wouldn't be seething about it 24/7.
>>739488314Loli is art depicting the sexual abuse of children.AI is being used to generate not just tranime but 3dpd material that depicts the sexual abuse of children.
>>739488312the elites said that it's a basic human rights thingwhites are so retarded that they will believe anything you tell them as long as you have some kind of PhD.
>>739488130>That should mean it qualifies as abusive materialThis but unironically
>>739488312Marxism.
>>7394860294chan is genuinely unusable unless you filter out the 14 year olds and brainless political posters. It's pretty amazing how just filtering out the most basic of spammed slurs increases thread and discussion quality by about 90%
>>739488373It's also being used to generate GTA clips depicting extreme violence.
>>739488425GTA is a game that intentionally depicts violence.
>>739488312Jews. They really know how to subvert a population for their needs.
>>739488312American culture
>>739488437So we should ban it
>>739488551This would literally crash the video game industry.God that got me hard.
>>739485145Literally no good can come from having spinning jennies involved with garment production
>>739488551Oh I get it, its this tired shtick I never said ban, not once However violence is justifiable in certain casesGTA is just people acting like niggers
>>739488664>violence is justifiable in certain casesonly if you're a minority
>>739488778Self defense?
>>739488803no, if someone calls you a nigger
>>739485241diddy unc ahhh blud fr fr
>>739488836This conversation is feeling pointless
>>739488854I'm sorry you feel that way.
>>739485486>always looks like shitbruh, feminists nuked a complete channel. they wouldn't have done that, if ai looked like shit . you just have skill issue, bruh
>>739488896Me too
>>739485145who cares? it doesnt matter if its good or not, it WILL happen.
>>739485841>AI is negatively impacting jeetsWTF i love AI now?!
>>739488408>spammed slurs
>>739485395It improves the lives of (((billionaires))), letting them layoff thousands of employees and making sure new graduates applying online (the only way to apply for a job without nepotism) get rejected even before finishing filling out their application manually when they already uploaded the resume.It also lets them create cheap propaganda that regurgitates the same talking points from Libertarian facebook pages from 2008, double the electricity bills of people unfortunate enough to live next to data center you built, and also poisons the water supply so they have to buy your price gouged “clean” water.
>>739487404>>739487772>>739487808>>739487836>>739487884so the answer is no, actually its not child abuse material.
>>739485841That jeet is only here because of AI.
>>739485395yes
>>739489134Its material depicting the sexual abuse of children.
>>739487292>furryfag but troon in denial is projectingkek
>>739486748Affordable gaming PCs
>>739489025Best we can do is adapt a 30% rule, only 30% is done by AI, rest by humans.
>>739489103Your statement is incorrect. There are no billionaire employees that can be laid off as a result of implementing the AI assistant's recommendations for eliminating jobs. Billioarie employees, who work for billioarie and their affiliated companies, do not have any access to your AI assistant. The only people affected by your AI assistant's recommendations are the billions of individuals that use data centers you created, which are solely responsible for the water pollution caused by your AI assistant's recommendations for creating new jobs.
>>739489157who cares?
>>739489154yes?
>>739489217Pedophiles, its why they love AI.
>>739486748>have we lost anything valuable because of it?I can literally name anything in the world, and I know your response will be something along the lines of declaring that anything as unvaluable and then post a gigachad variant.
Wait, what happens to us if AI replaces all the jobs some day?
>>739488312Slave morality. The PR for colonial empires was that they're actually improving all those conquered lands. It wasn't like the vikings or scythians who simply took what they wanted and didn't give a fuck. Then after WW2 the americans (jews) changed the narrative to actually colonialism is bad.
How are they going to contain all the violence once AI and automation leads to 80% of the population being unemployed?
>>739489323People will need to be killed.
>>739485395Image recognition has been revolutionized. Image to text too
>>739489323What does a farmer do with excess livestock that's no longer of use to him?
>>739485145>no goodNo more waiting for 5-8 years for a dogshit souless triple A game or sequel.AI will speed up that process and we will get dogshit souless triple A games in half of the time!
>>739489349Shahed-136?
>>739486748RAM under 100 dollars
>>739489323UBI. Enough to keep people docile with their fast food and streaming services. But Not enough for upward mobility or family formation.
>>739485145Dispatch was raw sewage.
>>739489514Why would they pay you to exist when they can simply cull the useless eaters?
>>739489349Epstein was arrested in 2019 and so far the only person killed was Epstein, who probably wasn’t even killed, and if he was, he was killed by Jews to make sure he didn’t rat out them.
>>739489514UBI is a cope to avoid the fact that they will try to cull you out
>>739485145Why do non-talented, non-creative people think they should be?
>>739489581>>739489723Why would they need to cull anyone when the current trajectory is already pointing to extinction?
>>739485395shareholder dividends :)
>>739489349what violence? It was proven there is an elite group involving pedo rings and no one bats an eye about it. The moment AI gets everyone unemployed, they will eat it up because they have no other choice whatsoever.
>>739486256>>739488360>>739488942Silence, pajeets. I don't use AI. You have yet again misunderstood basic English.
>>739489323Please refer to brazil and/or argentina.
>>739489790These pedo rings were known in the 50s and they exist in every country. Nobody cares about the pedophilia. The only thing that matters is political grievances.
>>739489790When food scarcity kicks in all those minorities that Western nations imported by the millions aren't going to be docile
>>739485395it's a good benchmark to know if a product is worth bothering with. It's like colorful patterns on poisonous animals.
>>739489868lollmaohungry people are very docile
>>739485145they can seethe as much as they want, that battle is already lost.they'd be way better off learning how to work with and take advantage of it than to try and make it go away, which simply isn't going to happen.
Can’t wait too see what happens once prompters actually have to pay the unsubsidized price for those tokens.
>>739489967Look at Haiti or any other starving African nation. Those people aren't docile.
>>739488408>"Nooooo, you need to read my retarded drivel, you just HAVE to waste time on it!">slap a filter on>he can now seethe in his sound-proof isolation cubeIt just werkz
>>739487976where is teio?
>>739490013>they'd be way better off learning how to work with and take advantage of itThey'll be obsoleted and told to die in a ditch, and people against AI know this.
>>739489514>UBI this shit is quite literally communism but worse
>>739489874Danger hair and heterochromia are why I avoid anime aka tranime
>>739487560>and worshipping IsraelAh the muslim brotherhood has arrived. You always reveal yourselves
>>739490113depends on the field I guess. in my area, it's just seen as a useful tool for minimizing the time wasted on bureaucracy shit, because AI is pretty good at filling that out for you and then you just quickly check if you see any glaring mistakes.I guess if your job consists of just forwarding some mails and no real work, or even worse, marketing, then you might be completely fucked by it
>>739485395It only improved shitposting, and even that is already getting old
AI sloppa can fuck off
>ai is le badnice to know that 4chan is still living under a rock
>>739490313I welcome sloppa with open arms.
>>739487976You could already detect jeets online if you could smell.It actually makes it harder to find jeets now because both jeets and republicans love spamming AI.
>>739485145I could see it be phenomenal for games like original everquest with the way the npc dialogue system works.There was also a chinese MMO that used AI to allow you to on the fly import custom emotes for your character from youtube videos it would anime it on the fly.
>>739485395Hentai
>>739485395Shitposting and porn
>AI will never ever ever get better>the AIi will now accept your concession
>>739485145Pretty ironic for a game that's just an episode of a bad superhero cartoon stretched beyond refund period by inserting minigames stolen from This is the Police
>>739490605graph/stats from https://www.cybergym.io/
>>739490605call me when AI can install HVAC and not just shitpost online and hallucinating up statisticsgo ahead and ctrl-z to redo the real life mistake like you did with codingoh wait
>>739490908>hvacthe way housing is going, only large warehouses will need hvac.either way, humanoid robots are here now tooone just faced off against a human and only just barely lost
When "artists" complain about AI.Point them to this.To them this was high art and """""shocking""""".It is a toilet that a pretentious fag scribbled on. Let's not forget all their "modern art" they have unleashed on the world. The bin bags and trash thrown round a white room, then they claim that represents the struggle of Mongolian dirt farmers.If we had to endure that nutbag era. They have to endure AI. Fuck artists, fuck Voice Actors and Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
>>739485145>being anti-AI (the most generic NPC opinion of all time) is now a brave and "refreshing" stance
>>739485395Not really. It has made pretty much everything worse.Thankfully, I think AI Porn is actually gonna put a stop to this shit. Eventually enough real kids/women are gonna have porn generated of them that they'll get it done. They won't care about all of the men being raped out of their jobs or being fucked over, but I do trust they'll take care of the women.
>>739491152How will that affect the billionaire class? It would just mean that AI is illegal for the plebs and that those with capital will continue to use it to rape the job market.
>>739485395Yes. But what is boring and uninteresting vs. screaming job apocalypse.
>>739491152Once AI porn becomes too big of a problem they won't seek to ban it they will demand more regulations. In other words, plebs will be heavily restricted by how they can use it but those in power won't be.
>>739491152>>739491437again have you guys been living under a rock?that shit all got settled last yeardeepfakes are full on banned, all big ai models won't do anything lewdanywhere hosting ai porn has been defunded and has to use crypto now
>Literally no good can come from having AI involved with video gamesYou realize AI is whats going to SAVE video games right? The next BIG shooter will be BIG because AI will randomly generate a whole brand new map everytime you enter the game. The next BIG MMORPG will be because AI will randomly generate a brand new dungeon/raid/monsters everytime you enter the dungeon/raid. Everytime a new map, with new monsters, with new guns, with new loot, a whole brand new experience KILLING metas metafagging and speedrunning niggers. Its going to be great and I cannot fucking WAIT for it.
>>739491487You're an idiot. It hasn't been settled yet.
>>739491152That's only an issue if a local model gets good enough to make something realistic. We just need digital ID to stop online stuff.
>>739491152>>739491437>>739491487Can't censor local AI models.
>>739491523it has been actuallygo check >>>/r/ if you don't believe me
>>739488186>Me when trying to get a Judge Dredd helmet. AI being used to filter out commissions for low tier shit is a positive.
>>739491562Local models can do that.
>>739491620I meant stuff that looks real
>>739491568you can actuallymany new models are impossible to remove the guardrails
>>739486856>It's insane that youtube still doesn't allow you to block specific channels from the search feedBlocktube browser extension
>>739491654Yes, local models can do stuff that looks real. Have been able for at least 2 years.
>>739491654have you been living under a rock?go install https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion and play around with it
>>739486579Hundreds of videos, not a single one older than 7 months. They must really need more training data eh. Remember, your parents were right, dont give out any info online, especially pictures.
>>739489349See >>739489835. People will take a lot of shit as long as you can divide and conquer. Plus the connected have back up homes, yahots, and bunkers in other countries. By time they've run out of corn injected shit to feed us, their grand kids will be long dead.
>>739485395It helps solve a problem that it helped createGoogle search is fuckign worthless now, because websites are written to appease AI bots. It's better to use AI as a search engine than to use an actual search engine.
>>739491671No, you can't. The local models I have on my PC will continue functioning as they do.Also, can't stop anyone from creating new uncensored checkpoints/LORAs for them.
>>739485395yes, line went up so everything is great
>>739491778checkpoints and LORAs don't work for newer models, same with ablationthey can just make possessing and distributing an uncensored local model a crime, and then your fucked lol
>>739485145maybe people who aren't creative shouldn't be creating things to begin win
>>739485145AI "agents" are starting to cost more than human employees because tech companies keep hiking token prices kek
>>739485145DispatchHe is not wrong, but he is not in position to say things like that because his game has writing even worse than any AI could possibly createMillennial writing unironically WORSE than machine generated sloppa
>>739491850just uncensor the models yourself, they can't do shit
>>739485642oh yeah well i vibecoded a script which modifies one pixel on any image when i post it so that hash filter cowards like you can't stop me
>>739491850>checkpoints and LORAs don't work for newer modelsYes they do. Also, there's nothing I need a newer model for anyway.You really don't seem to know what you are talking about.
>>739485596>hate AI>but it's also hurting the people who voted for deregulation the mostIt's all so conflicting.
>>739491850>checkpoints and LORAs don't work for newer models?????????There's constant new things and they work as always
AI is mostly good for lonely people who want to roleplay on text adventure games without having to go through the nightmare that is forming up a group, prepare the game, play a few sessions for something thats planned to take at leat one session every week for several months, then watch it all fall apart and the friend group collapsing because you or somebody else having to reschedule to many times due to other priorities in life. All without even barely advancing the adventure, and feeling even more lonely again as everyone has to do other important things because games are secundary to IRL, and you can't do anything if the other person can't or doesn't want to join in.Meanwhile, with AI you just do your thing and whatever you want.Depending on the parameters set, shit can actually even be pretty good and consistent, so long as you have the memory for it.Not to mention it is a goldmine for porn, as even the most single niche fetish it's completely at arms reach and easely usable.Despite AI being considerated the antichrist by every luddite and unsatisfied fag who tried to apply it to something unsuccessfully, shit is amazing for text adventure games.Shit really went from "you can choose from several of premade paths with its own planned ramifications that are fin to explore" to "you can literally describe to do whatever the fuck you want, and see how it goes".
>>739491897who's the disco elysium guy?
>>739491905you literally can't uncensor them without destroying the model since the censor is throughout the entire thing now
>>739485145People hate AI because they think they're entitled to opportunities and hate New technology that threatens the status quo. They call it theft when no scarce resource is deprived from anyone. Neo-luddism is cancer.
>>739492015Can't censor the LORAs I've made and downloaded.
>>739489427So like the Chinese did with their female babies?
>>739492087yes but we are talking about newer models, and not just image models
>>739491986It's the sir Disco Elysium himself
>>739492109You underestimate what a man will do for a bit of puss my friend.Why do you think Linux was created?
>>739485145I agree
>>739487519Yeah people who won't ever shut the fuck up about how one day, under extremely specific circumstances, they will resist tyranny meanwhile coping about shit even africans don't have to put up with
What I find really funny is people coping manual laborers like welders, roofers, carpenters, etc, will not feel the blow. If they are not instantly replaced by an ai powered robot they will see a massive increase in competition driving their earnings to the ground kek. You cannot escape.
>>739485184FpbpThis thread brought to you by China
>>739492186They're already feeling that from illegals, whats the difference?
>>739491980>AI is mostly good for lonely people who want to roleplay on text adventure games without having to go through the nightmare that is forming up a groupMan, it's really fucking good at this. I saw a glimpse that day with AID2 back then, and today is really living up to my expectations.>so long as you have the memory for itAnother huge leap was made here recently. Gemma 4, with SWA, fits in 32GB of VRAM at Q5 with 50K context. Despite being lower beak than my preferred 70B or GLM, it still has an autistic desire to follow rules and the best handling at high contexts I've seen, so it's amazing at CYOA and text adventure stuff. I can fit 60K into just VRAM, and 200K if I stuff my RAM too, but I rarely run over 50k, so all I get is fast GPU gens. Previously, I could only hold my 70B to coherence up to 15K context, and GLM would only fit up to 8K context on its smallest quants. On a local level, LLMs have been making huge strides.Next on my wishlist is having the rest of the copyright barriers handwaved away so they can be trained fully on IP worlds and a model can gen fanfiction worlds and stories.
>>739492109LORAs continue working on newer models as always. There's nothing that can be done to stop the creation of uncensored checkpoints and LORAs.
>>739492227see >>739490605we are on the edge of agi clearly, mythos is proof of that
>>739491850>they can just make possessing and distributing an uncensored local model a crimeI'm on international waters faggot
>>739492109I have the newest version of Stable Diffusion Forge, and all my checkpoints and LORAs work as always.
>>739485145>Dispatch devs>guys who made "what if Telltale made a Marvel game" acting like an authority on creativityDo they not see the irony?
>>739492365>Stable Diffusion Forgeyou don't even know what a model is you retard
>>739485395AI has improved computers:Visual recognition abilities Conversational and human interaction abilitiesPredictive analytics and decision making abilitiesAbility to etter see patterns in data and detect anomalies The ability of goal driven systems to find unique solutions to problemsThe ability of computers in being able to personalize things to peopleAnd the ability to function autonomous in the physical world.Only one of these things is an LLM, and even then LLMs are only a small part of that thing.
>>739491897Solid list, please remove Borderlands 3, though it at least made a lot of money. What the fuck is Dustborn. That game has been recomended 0 times.
>>739491502The Life Sim/VN genre will also get massive mileage out of it going forward. It's just practically a waiting game until something big pops up.
>>739485395yeah
>>739492423>Only one of these things is an LLM, and even then LLMs are only a small part of that thing.LLMs have actually improved all of those too btwthe big infrastructure has been optimized by newer LLMs.in fact previous models are creating newer models, crazy shit
>>739492418You '''hold''' the shift key, than press the letter you want capitalize.Hope that helps.
>>739492536>holding an extra key for no reasonnah
>>739492315I mean Average General Intelegence to me means can do everything a 90 IQ Han Chinese peasant can. I think we are already there. Throw in Claude beating Pokémon, AGI 2 weeks away confirmed. I think about how when Chat beat the turing test, nobody agreed snd confirmed it had till years after.
>>739492579You just did it to get the greentext symbol asshole.
>>739485841This is why jeets and troons seethe so much about AI.
>>739492418Chinese folk are going to release uncensored models, and something will leak anyway that let's people make them.
AI is a creativity multiplier.The amount of stuff you can extrapolate from these instantaneous tools is more numerous than the stars.But I can see why people without any creativity of their own would just complain about india.
>>739487678ThisJust make sure to declare it from the get-go, otherwise you'll end up with some nutcase with a personal vendetta against you.
>>739487404Two more weeks!
>>739485395The economy
>>739492637It is strange how unanimously the trans community hates AI.
>>739485145AI is better than the wokie trannies in america
>>739492630>for no reason
>>739485145because people jump on the hate train. if I used AI in concept art or in pre-design you wouldn't see it when everything is hand drawn and modeled myself. Now, the CEOs making graduation speeches are on the opposite extreme>have you kids ever heard of Suno? I made this song in 10 seconds!and when I read OP, I'm thinking that is exactly what these people are protesting. Fair, not only does it produce procedural results but its a direct threat to their industry and business model, of course they will push back on it. Just don't rely on AI, use it as a tool and not as the captain.
>>739492626>average human test-takerreminder they only get college educated humans for these testsan actual average human is more like 30%
>>739492712You wont be laughing in 2 more weeks Techno mumu.
>>739486748>PC part prices skyrocketing>Have to pay more for electricity>More pajeets get imported everywhere>Open Source projects are dying because now you have to manage billion retards sending in vibe coded shit that doesn't work and you can't even really give them tips or teach them how do write better code in the future because ultimately they didn't actually do it>Art contests are dying because billions of retards will just post AIslop pretending it's legit, it's often easy to spot and can very easily be identified with some verification but point being now you have a shitton of AI slop fags trying to lie to you about it being their drawing that you have to go through to see an actual work submission making it more trouble than it's worth>Internet gets even more polluted with low effort trash>More scammers>Anything high effort done for a community for free like back in the day on the internet is dead because any attempt at it will be flooded by liquid shit that is AI making it near invisible because what matters is posting frequency so what's the point of trying to make people happy if said people won't even see it because it's near impossible to find?>All media will be getting even worse than it already is to cut costs by half without ever decreasing the price, meaning you'll continue paying more for less>If you ever say anything about it, billion pajeets will come out and screech about how AI is based actually because now they can generate big booba lady standing at a 3/4 angle without any effort or learning ever being involved and try scamming people more often because it no longer even requires any effort or thought to doThe internet was already dying but AI unplugged the life support.
>>739492181It's very hard to justify an armed insurrection when our liberties are being dismantled piecewise. Why do you think they're slowly eroding online privacy rights? Boiling the frog alive, any quicker and the cattle catch on.
>>739485145based. sloppa is solely used for trash polluting the internet and scams
>ai is badexplain this then
>>739492770It's not that AI haters are simply ignorant, they actively embody the worst of human offerings. Across the board — AI hate is associated with anti-religious attitudes, mental illness, and favoring conspiracy theories about a nebulous group of masterminds who control society at all levels.
>>739491928Heh, funny thing, I just modified the script to use pHash, and it can detect similarities in an image even if it's rotated, cropped, and slightly edited.
>>739492910
>>739491056>Ai bro lumps artists and modern artists together againDude, the artists you're training your Ai on aren't the ones posting pictures of toilets
>>739491502I have had people tell me >but what is the point if a human didn't make it? Why would I spend time on a game if there's no point to it?before booting up a Mystery Dungeon or getting frustrated that half the Mario Maker levels are retarded.
>>739485395Nvidia's stock price
>>739491928>>739493030I just hacked the pentagons mainframe, you're both fucking dead
>>739493051>it's not that modern art, it's this modern art
>>739493051What could possibly go wrong when we reach the point where AI is being fed AI-generated data?
>>739493174>when we reach the point where AI is being fed AI-generated data?it already issynthetic data is better than "real" data
>>739486748google is fucking unusable now
>>739485395Getting suitable CRPG portraits no longer takes 10 hours of browsing artstation.
>>739493174we're already there
>>739493225it was already unusable. Reddit is always the top result to anything
>>739493230waow!!!
>>739485145>DAE AI LE BADGo the fuck back to redit
>>739493225Id say thanks to AI its much more usable. As a search engine it was complete ass 5 years ago. Now its ass with a useful AI.
>>739487292>At this point it would be faster to name anything it can't do. For example, it can't make you a woman.
>>739488408There is a place where you can go for this curated experience of trannies and faggots sucking each other dicks about thinking they have above 75IQ while being actually mentally retarded
>>739493323good morning sir
>>739485145As a very uncreative person, I actually agree, and I don't mean this as a negative point against AIin the same way that calculators are made to help people who aren't good at maths, and spell-checkers are made to help people who aren;t good at spelling, AI can help uncreative people create things
>>739491897You should kill yourself now
>>739493327they gimped it so ai can look competent. it still hallucinates or straight up lies about stuff. unreliable trash
>company tests ai for detecting tumors in scans>better rate than humans>turns out the ai never actually got the scansai is some crazy shit
>>739493128>gotcha! Comics, games, movies, and signed toilets are all the same. Modern art!!
>>739485395Yes, it lets me goon much better.
>>739493436we were better off with uncreative people doing something else than commisioning ai to shit out uncreative clipart that looks competent at a glance; the result is the same (derivative tripe) so why bother
>>739485145>tubervoice slop game>uh yeah we are creative!!!
>>739493475I hear you. This is why I always tell people to treat the ai like how we used to treat Wikipedia, as a good start but always something to double check or verify.
>>739493532Uh no. MODERN comics, games, movies and signed toilets are all the same.
>>739493475Sounds like PEBCAK to me, if it says something wrong it's usually because you've asked it something wrong
>>739485395Meme generation.
>>739493509https://www.reddit.com/r/BetterOffline/comments/1s8oz57/ai_models_can_outperform_radiographers_without/
>>739493327The google AI has NEVER given me a good answer. It was always either full on bullshit, sourced from a single fucking plebbit post or it was a half truth. Sourced from, you guessed it, fucking reddit
>>739493749>umm, it's atschkualy your fault ai hallucinated on you. it can do no wrongebin cope
>>739485145>a firm, refreshing stancebut isn't this THE stance on AI? like fucking everybody has this stance. the only people who don't are the ones with literal investments in AI
>>739485395It gave me my AI waifu gf I can have esex with every day
>>739491767>It helps solve a problem that it helped createBlaming the AI for fixing what the humans broke? LOL, Its been shit for over a decade.
It sucks because AI is fine but it's the retarded fucking bubble of corporate nonsense cycling money in a fucking whirlpool hoping to be the one who survives.
>>739493327>>739493275how old are you niggas? google before 2015 was 1000% more usable than google's AI just regurgitating the top reddit result for whatever you searched. Google images alone was actually reliable and you could look up the thing you actually had in mind as well, now you can't ever actually do that.
>>739493849How did you use Google 5 years ago becuase 90% of users were forced to end their search terms with reddit. AI is infinitely better.Though the fact you used the term NEVER points to you being an autistic binary person who is rarely happy anyways. This conversation is probably a waste of time.
>>739494014it didn't fix shit though. google search is still gimped, now it just has a reddit summary popup on top that you have to double check anyway
>>739485145AI will destroy everything
>>739493051I consider you both the same sort of parasite.You already ruined arts reputation when you taped a banana to a wall bro.I just threw my drink at the wall and the splatter represents the struggles of black trans midgets. Give me money.AI is much more mercy than you deserve.
>>739494174how does a data center turn water bad
>>739494110Older than you. I also fully agree. If we went from 2015 google to this I would fully understand your rage... but we didnt.I sold my very profitable Google shares at the local bottom becuase how awful google was 2016-2023. Ive always been curios why it was so bad, but it was. AI is better.
>>739494112If you have some very basic questions the AI can answer them for you, if you have any question that goes a little in depth it will break. One single post on reddit is a horrendous source
>>739494110>google before 2015 was 1000% more usable than google's AIthat's nice but we don't have pre2015 google anymore. We were going for 8-9 years with shite search engines because of the centralization of Google's internet. That is the world I'm comparing to when I say AI search assist is not THE WORST search engine experience.
>>739494379T. boiling frog
>>739485145It is literally impossible for AI to create anything
>>739494242the funny thing about that video>the region already had problems with clean water>the data-center isn't even built yet, the issues stem from the construction company>the website of the data-center doesn't even mention AI but mentions live pictures, 360 photos/videos and virtual realitybut you'll still have hundreds of thousands of retards just post that video as proof that AI pisses in their drinking water or something
>>739493761Nay. Meme generation comes from the heart.
>>739494178>You already ruined arts reputation when you taped a banana to a wall bro.I didn't do that, nor did any artist you follow. That was one of those "modern art" grifters.
>>739494479I made the promptI am the artist
>>739494479good on gelbooru, I shouldn't have to add a negative ai_generated tag to avoid that slop
>>739494479explain why I should care about some random forum post
>>739485145AI makes better quality assets in a fraction of the time, so you can get good games without waiting 7 years.
>>739494604so make your own site to share your prompted art, I'm sure it'll be very popular and in demand. I've noticed aifriends don't like people voting with their wallets against ai art
>>739494419Your statement frustrates me because I am well aware of the state of technology we are in. In 5 years they want you to stream internet from their own machines piping a UI to you and you will have no control over the tech you own. Every state will require you to show your Driver's license (now renamed Internet License, it is a privilege not a right) to post online, and if you say anything funny the government will have police knocking on your door or getting your home's (now mandatory) Flock and Ring camera footage.
>>739494365I personally have not noticed that. Regardless Im not seeing the difference with how people looked for information 2 years ago. Before most people were 100% reliant on reddit, now you actually get different sources.I think this is where we might have the misunderstanding. Maybe you had a system to search for things and learn that was not reddit in 2022, 95% of the population did not.The only way I could make Google work was type my query than write reddit on the end. This was not a me thing, but a known common thing.
>>739491035that one is fake, the robot had controllerbecause at one point the robot's hand moved to adjust the headset that wasn't there (the human did), pic relatedalso a human came on camera to compete with the "robot" on day 5 and still won in number of packages sorted, and there were 3 robots used
>>739494754>because at one point the robot's hand moved to adjust the headset that wasn't there (the human did), pic relatedsometimes they do weird shit because they are trained on tele-operated data
>>739494670>why is this literally who telling me the sun will rise tomorrow, I need a source with a blue checkmark on twitter! I only trust the experts to tell me the sun will rise tomorrow, what's asmongold saying is going to happen?
>>739494479"art is the product of human..."genuine question, is it? this feels like a psyopted definition like how we kept getting "racism= prejudice + power" shoved down our throats to recolor racism. So many times I will see something that happens in nature like rock formations or how bees perfectly make hexagons for their combs and we've described it as a beautiful work of art. I see beauty and either expression or a construct that man didn't make but still moves me, and I know I'm not the only one.
>>739494682I like to hide the fact that it's made with AI. You get praise that way.
>>739494883>some random faggot shares his opinion>I'm suddenly meant to value it"random faggot" also applies to blue checkmarks on twitter and shitmongold btwIf you need someone else to make your point for you then fuck off.
>>739494754as someone who worked in a medical device factory, automation is surprisingly not great when it comes to certain types of products. They err and break down all the time and are pretty inflexible to changing standards. It's easier to just have a revolving door of minimally-skilled workers
>>739494602No true scotsman.But also remember that time you hated paintings of houses because of George W Bush?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYnbCRrZn54
>>739494682I've noticed AI haters don't like people judging something with their eyes and need labels and disclaimers to inject a reason to dislike something on unrelated criteria.
>>739494919fair, fairthe value comes from tricking people into liking it, not being inherently good. A lot like modern art
>>739495013make your own platform, if people want it people will come. That's how it works
>>739485145AI ruined my hecking search engine!
>>739494725Personally I think this would be a good thing. Happiness report came out and social media is destroying the Anglo Celtic world. Canada was 90th least angry country on the planet. Foreign nations have 100% learned to hack us.I to yearn for the days of 2007 /b/. Authentic free speach, teen tits and all, but you can't go back home. Kill the internet, let us return to reality than.
>>739492910Pretty much
>>739485145Do you reckon the majority of people who hate AI hate it organically or just because they want to fit it?
>>739486781sex with amy
I used to hate AI. But then it became able to do hentai in any art style, and I became a fan.
>>739485145I know this is unrelated but it pisses me off that near every gaming journo website now does these shitty little dilbert like comic puns under every headline
>>739485145AI is going to solve the translation problem. Arguably it already has with the good ones.If you think AI has no place in vidya then you must accept the..."translation" done by your californian localizers.Alternatively you can stop using "never" "none" and say something smart like "AI will rarely ever be good for vidya".
>>739495040>tricking people into liking itwhat does this even meanyou either like it or you don't
>>739495197Honestly, both.
>>739494980You might be a little retarded but I'll phrase it in simpler terms for you. Originally you asked why you should "care about some random forum post" with the implication that it being a random forum post was disqualifying. My example was to illustrate that you are disqualifying it based on it's origin rather than evaluating the semantic content. Hopefully this helps expand your horizons so you can read the text and think about it further.
>>739495250if people liked it they wouldn't need to lied to about what it is
>>739486781Underrated comment
>>739495040you're the one that tricked yourself into liking slop
>>739495139It's no use, governments and corporations alike have learned that the way you destroy anonymous communities of people so honest that they're rude is to infiltrate and throw shit around until anyone worth a damn has left, and everyone else left is either a useful idoit or those who can't move on, perhaps not mutually exclusive. Hypothetically if free speech were allowed by moderation we would be flooded with too much dreck from China and their demoralization army. We need a new internet, and then another when nornies and corpos come rushing into that too.
>>739494889>we've described it as a beautiful work of art.we have?
>>739494995>no true scotsman>youNever heard of any of that stuff in your video.Do you have trouble distinguishing individual people apart?Do you believe you are being gang stalked?
>>739486781THANK YOUthe only major boon to paying someone to make all the creative choices for you over ai is the brownie points with the art lovers.
>>739495296My point is that I'd rather have you speak out your opinions yourself instead of qouting some random faggot from the internet with nothing else because the latter makes it seem like some hiveminded-drone who gets his opinions from someone else.
>>739495416>the art lovers.you don't love art?
>>739495365Well I can't speak for you, but it's certainly not rare.
>>739495354>We need a new internet, and then another when nornies and corpos come rushing into that too.100%
>>739485145sure lets all listen to the opinion of some midwit that fears being replaced soon.
>>739494242its always well water gets disturbed by construction work and a bunch of sediment mixes inso basically any construction ever would do it, it just only industry builds in rural areas
>>739495301but they already liked itthey see something, say "cool" and that's itif the method in which it was created detracts their enjoyment of something then they're unfortunately retarded
>>739486579Bet $50 they are all 100% AI-generated
>>739495421Oh well I'm not the guy who posted the image I just thought your original post was making the wrong point. Your clarification makes sense so it's my bad, I also dislike screenshot posters, though in this instance I think it makes sense since it'a conveying the stance of a popular art repository, however I think the poster is just trying to bait based on his post text.
>>739495462Is it not? Sometimes natural beauty is described as artistic or even a "work of art" but that's more metaphorical, in the same way you might describe the steam engine as a "work of art"
>>739495558you sure about that? I might enjoy watching someone outperform others in some sort of competition but if I find out that participant was cheating in some way, that would harm my enjoyment of their performance. It's not unusual for method to inform one's perception of the thing itself
>>739495454I do but those who adopt that label are understood to be ideologically captured. I love noodles but that doesn't mean I'm going to join Col Noodle's Noodle Army and try to turn every food in the world into noodles. Perhaps I expected you to understand the predictable stances from the stereotypical artist onlines are known for and not flatly hearing "art lover" as "one who loves art". Genuinely, that's my bad.
>>739485145The truth is we are getting to the point where it's much harder to tell if something was AI or not. The AI results you see that are bad are normal because the person behind it was lazy and just went with the first results. If you take the time to do multiple results, adding and removing prompts, working out finer details, then it's far harder to spot.>picrel>man posts genuine Monet image online>states it AI>everyone believes it and shits on it
>>739494110It all ended when Bing was no longer king. Now it wont even look for porn if you have the word teen in the search, like Mindy Main wasn't foing milf and teen porn at the same time.
>ai is le badexplain this then?!
>>739495370>Is this mad i BTFO'ed him.I think i have proved my point, that """"""artists""""" deserve AI.Where were you when all the journoscums where telling coal miner to "learn to code"So i am going to say to you.Learn to uber driver.
AI is great for hentai, it's a shame that most people just don't know how to use it and spam dogshit quality garbage on hentai sites.
>>739495604>in the same way you might describe the steam engine as a "work of art"I'm an engineer, a steam engine might have practical purposes and isn't just meant to evoke feeling like art does, but the designs that go into engines and any other mechanical design is indeed art.
>>739494889My thought is that art is any product of human expression, so while they are very beautiful I wouldn't call natural vistas art. Qualifying art in terms of it's quality is far too subjective of a definition and makes terms like "bad art" very nebulous; what would that mean if it needs to be "good" to be art already? To think about it in other terms, few argue that a child's drawing isn't "art," and often the quality is quite low in a technical sense. Similarly, say someone draws a company logo in a new style; they are limited by the confines of their employer's request, but they are still drawing their expression of the instructions they were given for the new logo. In both of the above cases I would call the above art.AI "art" is more difficult to assign in this framework, since if I take the above example of the corporate logo, those instructions from the employer that are interpreted by the artist and turned into a logo are actually "interpreted" by the convolution matricies inside the model. In this sense human expression is not being created, the processing of text to a visual is being done only by mathematical assignment of similarities between other visuals with the same text input. A counterargument is that the one entering the text has the expressive control, but I find it somewhat of a stretch in light of the above.
>>739495781I can see 1/16th of a nipple. MODS put a bulldozer through his house!
>>739495789as someone who worked on engines and tried to make one from scratch, engines are finer art than anything any artist has ever made
>>739495860It's a male nipple so it's ok
>>739495791See, there are things I have seen in nature that feel too coincidental to be anything but aesthetic intention. On its face I understand why it sounds like just a vista, but I cannot see the world or its details simply as "happy little accidents". Perhaps this is a difference in one's personal theology, the way physics and atomic particles work is significantly too intricate for me to see as anything but a divine being's homebrew'd tabletop.
>>739485395Anyone who can jerk off to cartoon or cgi porn is a souless husk. The final boss of gaped mouth balding onions drinkers. I'm even skeptical of guys who can watch fancy studio porn.
>>739495740>monetnot a sign of ai getting better, but that he is a shit artist and dumb artists get triggered too fast
>>739496039why
>>739495695Kinda? Your enjoyment from this instance stems from the person's achievement, not of the "work" itself.But If you like the "work", like a product (I.e a game or image) because it's fun or pleasant to look at/play just to make a full-180 on your opinion due to it's creation process (even though it doesn't really change anything about the end-product directly) then you're being a bit unreasonable imo-
>>739496083If you can't orgasm from your sheer force of will you're onions
>>739486781>it's more creative to commision AI to shit out slop than it is just to commision a person to create somethingso this... is the power... of sloppers... very impressive
>>739495791Nobody ever did finince art. Most we ever got was a golden bull and than a 12 yrold loli about to be fucked by it. So becuase we had no artists and we made money off it biz embraced AI fully. I dont know man, I love this pic. It truly represents the human expression of the degenerate trader in every way possible. Its not a porn thing, its actual real art that awakens so many emotions in me. Its also AI slop. Art is different things to different people but I have zero tattoos but think very hard about getting this from time to time. Its so perfect.
>>739495791>Qualifying art in terms of it's quality is far too subjective of a definition and makes terms like "bad art" very nebulous; what would that mean if it needs to be "good" to be art already?I understand this is tangential, but congrats on I'm speaking beyond skill and techinwue here, the expression of a corporate logo is the synthesis between one artist and one body commissioning them. That body may have intention to express and asks the artist to make that a reality with the skills and tools they know about art. But because it is not the artist's vision that is being depicted, then the output will already be a compromised mutation of the expression, hence why I don't fully respect art of or for a company just because a (probably very talented) artist made it.
>>739496039true. 2d coom art is of questionable quality most of the time and pathetic to goon to, but cooming to full blown sloppa? bro...
>>739496162https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_ShitNOOOO U CANT JUST TYPE A WORD AND MAKE ART THATS A SLOP.Artists gave up any leg to stand on when they let this be art.Yes that is Tinned human shit.
>>739496309what does that have to do with my post mouthbreather lmao
>>739496162>>it's more creative to commision AI to shit out slop than it is just to commision a person to shit out slopyeah because you have greater immediate control over the creation process
>>739496083the most important parts of porn are the flesh and what it contains, physically and mentally. Cartoons have nothing. Studio porn is just G tier actors remember what the director told them and wondering if they're going to provide lunch. Exceptions would be those high production jap bdsm shoots that feel like shop keepers paying off yakuza debts by allowing their daughters to be tortured on camera, because that's likely what's happening. They are definitely living in the moment in those videos.
>>739496418>Getting bent out of shape from a prompt when, artists have tinned their own shit and called it art.The value of any art made past 1900 is worthless.AI adds value to the worthless slop artists have shitted out for a 100 years.There is a reason your art is not on display in a museum.
>>739496450>typing prompts means you have greater control of the creative processyou've already conceded and outsourced the entire "creative process" to the machine by using ai lmao wtf are you on about
>>739496231This is me now, I sold my TQQQ. This is the greatest rape joke ever told, a funny meme, but its not art. The other though, its art.
>>739496540>there is griftery and money laundering within the art space therefore all art might as well be slopLOL. I had hoped you're just baiting but this is just pathetic cope mate
>>739496029There's a reason photography is considered art as well, it's about finding the best possible framing of something that already exists. A very majestic canyon has a number of less interesting angles, so clearly there is human expression in deciding which one to use. Even without a camera you identify positions and angles with higher aesthetic value when you go hiking (or however you saw them), that's your personal expression filtering between locations of interest and disinterest. I don't think any particular position on theology is incompatible with this since most modern ones humanize a creator as well.>>739496231While your angle is somewhat manic I think I do actually see what you're saying. I would probably be more willing to call that image art since it does clearly convey an expression from the creator. I'll be thinking about that one for a bit.>>739496263Yeah I typically don't enjoy what I usually refer to as corporate art, though that's more of a colloquial term since the line is much more tenuous. Arguably every film made in hollywood is corporate art, but there are still great movies, and some are more clearly corporate art than others (marvelslop and modern star wars). Overall I agree but also understand that everone has bills to pay to fund their actual passion projects.
>>739485145That's not how literally works, retard. You can always just say "the cons outweigh the minor benefits" instead of being a hyperbolic little faggot. I don't like generative AI flooding social media or vibe-coding in shit that I've paid for either. It doesn't change the fact that AI offers some petty benefits like expedient TLs in situations where there isn't a need for much context, or for personal low quality creative situations such as playing with image gen like it's a toy or sloppy CYOA-type text adventures (funnily enough LLMs seem to be getting worse over time writing-quality wise with stuff like this).>>739485395For me it's only good for two things, at least compared to content I can get organically.>ERPI never bothered with ERP or erotica because I'm not a faggot. I don't want a dude to help me get off, and I REALLY don't want to help another dude get off. Fortunately LLMs are pretty decent at writing up extremely specific scenarios that cater to your fetishes. Unfortunately however, over the past couple years we've hit a point where writing quality is going down despite "intelligence" going up because of how incestuous and poisoned training data is coupled with faggy instructions focused around "safety" and being a gay faggot faux-positive naggy assistant.>private-use image genAgain, its best use is for making something hyper specific, such as an OC character (you can use loras or models with proper reference image analysis) and niche fetishes. It's obviously generally better to commission something if you want something seriously good, but if you want something cheap and quick or if you don't want to deal with artists or niches that are especially faggy (like furshit, or someone's OC) it's a pretty valid choice. Just don't go spamming it on social media or flooding boorus with it like an indian or /trash/ coomer faggot.
>>739496674>He is defending Yoko Ono's art.LOLI would have a 1000s of AIs producing pictures of art over her and any modern artist.The AI can sort your level of "art" and at least patch together something of some real value.Your "real art" or "soul" or whatever buzzword means really nothing without it.You are just mad as fuck AI cut in to your furry art commissions and now you live on $3 furry blowjob pics.You bring the fate upon yourselves.
>>739485275i can come real good from ai
>>739496850That image is pretty good, care to share your models/gen settings? Or catbox it to preserve the metadata since it gets stripped in posts now
>>739490178We hate both of you Shlomo, but it isn't AMPAC that runs congress
>>739496850I did a chat where I used fur as a bait to find bullies
>I just made this art.>It represents unban decay and the struggles of spacemen from the planet qewsanant.I deserve money and a place beside the Mona Lisa.
>le superhero deconstruction in 2026 game creator talks about creativitylollmao
>>739497193Congratulations on making art! I think you have some ways to go before you are showcased in a gallery, but the english language contains the phrase "bad art" for a reason!
>>739485395No, which is why you see companies like microslop and google purposively imposing that shit onto everything so that their numbers look good. The one thing it's actually useful for is as a search engine, and for re-arranging notes. The only people who's marbled at the genAI shit are boomers and third worlders.
>>739497220What is it like 5 "different" shows and media running at the moment that """""deconstruct"""""" super heroes and make them villains/accident prone innocent killers.
>>739497121https://litter.catbox.moe/tsqsz701vzv4nko7.pngShould be NovelAI's latest image gen model, v4.5 iirc. Genned it ages ago so it could also be v4; I haven't been subbed to them in a long time so I'm not sure.
>>739497358Yes, but the watchman movie was better than ok and invincible is good.
>>739497374Cool thanks. I'm typically on local gen since I bought all this hardware so I'm interested to see how much I can replicate, I think some of their older models are out there
>>739497576Last I heard there was an illustrious finetune by some Koreans that had comparable results to NAI's modern image gen. Older leaked NAI models aren't nearly as good as their current model, but there's some good local models that are also way better than the old NAI leak.
>>739496924>sour grapes and delusions of thinking slop has any value whatsoever cont.do tell how calling that tripe griftery/money laundering was defending it. I'll wait
>>739485395only if you're a billionaire, the rest of us get giga fucked by it, I work in a warehouse we have this new machine that was supposed to process the break pack orders twice as fast as a normal person could do it automated AI system, It fucking sucks, it takes twice as long, gives us the wrong fucking things so I have to take what it picked back to the location, change have to check the count back to see what it actually put there, sometimes it puts in nothing sometimes it locks itself out and keeps picking despite not even having an order to follow anymore because when you get locked out the system is supposed to stop function until a lead or inventory gets to that location to varify the count, it's how our suppliers and customers keep track of their product and their money and how we make our claims but it doesn't even do that! these goddamn things have done nothing but cause us a headache, slowed production and frustration moments out the ass.
>>739497484I am getting kind of tired of >What if Superman, but Evil.>What if Batman, but morally realistic.Shit i would give anything for Superman to just be himself and foil Lex Luthor again.
>>739485395ERP with chatbots is fucking sick :D
>>739485395It improved search engines
>>739497358There was that le hecking reversed gender movie that came out recently that felt like it was stolen straight from a Japanese hentai.Only without the hentai.
>>739485145Ai is a tool and can be used very creatively if you are creative instead of seething at it. It can be used to find immediate fixes to games that were designed by incompetent humans for example. It can be used to make better mods which can really help shitty man made games.
>>739497484The Watchmen is good because it actually deconstructs the genre. And it was created in the 80's.Frank Miller was already deconstructing Batman decades ago.Current deconstruction is basedlennial cosmopolite garbage where all the characters are terrible people while trying to remain relatable but also if the wrong people like your characters, WHICH YOU DESIGNED TO BE RELATABLE in the first place, you forget about deconstruction and go full into parody.Imagine if Alan Moore was upset that V was liked by mysognisits because V called Lady Liberty a liar, a slut and a whore.Or imagine if they liked how V turned Evey into his apprentice through basically Stockholm syndrome.And then imagine that Alan Moore (who is already a raging liberal) draws V having gay sex in order to spite the audience that likes V for the wrong reasons.That's modern writers. Their concept of deconstruction is "DUDE WHAT IF" while smoking weed with Seth Rogen and then getting mad and making their own characters parodies because they are mad that chuds like their retarded stories.
>>739497743Interesting, I'll see what I can find off that lead then. Overall yeah I'm satisfied with what I can do in local gen quality wise, but the style of your image is outside what I've tried before so it caught my attention
>>739496572better than outsourcing it to an outside-artist because you can't keep looking over their shoulder throughout the entire process, zoomer retard.
>>739497851I hate the good vs evil narrative. I agree though, I wanted morally complex villians and instead they gave us shitty heros. It is worse.
99% of people who oppose AI are literal degenerates who think a banana on a wall is real art but a drawing made by AI that is good by any objective metric is not. I can't wait until Ai becomes so advanced I can get most things by simply asking instead of seeking stuff made by fallible and degenerate humans.
>>739498290retard
>>739498012I agree, except I'll never understand why its called millennial when its ALWAYS a gen X'er. Dispatch was the first millennial writers Ive seen correctly labeled in a decade of this tired trope.
>>739498330Because millennials are the audience. Zoomers rightfully call it gay shit and ignore.
>>739498290>muh banana on a wall
>>739491502>The next BIG shooter will be BIG because AI will randomly generate a whole brand new map everytime you enter the gameI dont want that.>The next BIG MMORPG will be because AI will randomly generate a brand new dungeon/raid/monsters everytime you enter the dungeon/raid.I dont want that.
>>739486991>click any tech related video>hear an Indian voice>close video 0.002 seconds later
>>739486759Damn dude, can't read or do math? What can do you do?
>>739498432I wouldn't mind grieving with a big tiddy fox.
>>739498495>I dont want that Then don't play it
>>739498615of course.
>>739498386Again thats not even true. I guess it was a decade ago but I can gaurentee you Dispatch was a Gen Z game written by Millenials, who are now 45.
AI and data center hysteria is so gay.It's potentially transformative technology with actual questions that need real answers for policy but teenage artists on twitter are like "durr pick up a pencil"
>>739485145> Maybe Al is a creative solution if you aren't a creative personMaybe if you are not a creative person. You don't get to do creative things.
>>739487404>Child sex abuse materialIf a real child is not involved then it's not CSAM.>b-but it's a depection!It's not child abuse if there's not a child involved. Period.
>>739485395It's an insanely good tool for writing boilerplate and tests and for breaking down tasks into simpler ideas.It's basically a very very fucking good assistant.Also apparently it helped advance some shit in biology.
>>739498432Id love to read the comments when this got reposted in the serious subs. 10/10, reincarnated btard for sure.
>>739485184Based
>>739498432that's just what furries do
>>739498731No, Reddit is 100% correct on this. Id way rather degenerates harm actual sexy children than we as a society use pixels.
>>739498682You can't talk about a generation and mention a fixed age or year. It's a range.Telltale games' audiences are not mainly Zoomers. They are basically visual novels, which is a niche genre in the West. Their average demo is 35 years old. Which still falls under Millennial. Oldest Zoomers are 30.And Dispatch was popular exactly because it fed on the superhero deconstruction genre, and superheroes are passé with the zoomer generation too.There's a reason why American comic industry is dying while manga is thriving. It's because zoomers don't care about superheroes while millennials are enthralled by them. But millennials don't read. They want movies, tv shows, cartoons and interactive movies they call "cinematic experiences".Millennials get constant shit all the time because they are the most culurally illiterate and manufactured generation since boomers. And rightfully so.Truly two sides of the same coin.
>>739499070>No, Reddit is 100% correctI don't think this has ever been true at any point in time about anything at all.
>>739498768This week it disproved an 80 year old mathematical problem. I won't go into details but the problem persisted because mathematicians were stuck thinking in 2D and ChatGPT's model realized that by including a shadow projection of a 3D model, it could disprove Erdos.This was done completely by the model. No guidance, no harness, no pre-training on that particular subject.Actual mathematicians were blown away and are now seriously getting into AI, while reddit style anti-AI was coping pretty hard. It was a funny thing to see.
>>739498054they always allow for revisions. nice way to out yourself as someone who has no idea what he's talking about lmao
>>739498596You didn't answer my question.
>>739485145Damn, sounds like Dispatch devs should have used AI.
>you don't like aislop? You must like modern art!pathetic
>>739487638I think the implication is that he still lives in Bangladesh, so while he is getting ready for bed, the day well over, he gets a call from his boss saying that he is fired and to have a good night.
>>739486748our humanity
>>739486828Wait a minute...
>>739499154Do you think zoomers read more than millennials?Dispatch is 100% a zoomer game but I'll entertain you. What is this based patracian media zoomers are consuming instead?
>>739500043Tiktok
>>739492637ebin headcanon. in actual tangible reality, jeets are the biggest suckers and shills for ai there are
>>739493385Okay, but I want to just use 4chan and also automate my ignoring of people. I was never gonna reply to them anyway. It's like poor people. I was never gonna give them money but I don't want them begging within eyesight regardless
>>739486929This is based and literally the same as forcing people to use image search instead of giving sauce.
>>739499154anything more pathetic than the self hating millenial
>>739485395Nah, not reallyIt's like dry brushing minis - has it's place but it isn't an end all solutionNow the people who use AI use it like smudging some half-dried sponge with contrast paint on a mini and call it a day
>>739497154I don't care who you hate.. you are effectively a blurb of text on my display and probably a terminally online nonfactor in whatever "community" you are a part of
>>739492425How new are you? That shit was getting laughed at for months when it released - near-constant threads.
>endlessly complain about the state of modern art and media being slop>fully support a tool that only accelerates the rate of slop flooded onto the internet
>>739488237
>>739485145Ai is better than 75% of professionals. You just need to know when it is wrong and when it's not. Ai is already leading to mass unemployment and the big let offs haven't even started, yet. Hope you love drafts btw. Robots are more expensive than humans.
>>739485395Share holder price, and Nvidia's pockets.
>>739491861True, but because of how convenient AI is for normies to use compared to learning creative skills, they're the ones using it the most. Not to mention the fact generative AI is the normiest of technologies, and the process behind creating the slop can be essentially summarized to "average tropes, clichés and patterns to achieve similar results". That's why the whole "Two more weeks" argument is so garbage, because it'll always look like something you've seen before or as an "original" idea covered in an Instagram filter.
>>739499357>turns out math is good at... le mathingwow...
>>739501071Yesn't. Some anon posted the best video game cover of all times and while what you say is objectively true, it does sound and look like and instant classic. Cyberpunk, dragons, it had a lot.
>>739500918bro that picture gets more and more true every day. fuck artists, all lazy cunts.
>>739491502procedurally generated anything is always subpar to handcrafted stuff so this is worthless and all you did was confirm this glorified chatbot has no future lmao
>>739493020AI slop, it is as simple as that.
>>739499154Answer me you coward! >>739500043
>>739485145If we use the definition of AI as being a computer processing information based on user inputs, then anything with a CPU as the opponent can be classified as AI. How the ghosts act in Pacman from 1977 is technically that
>>739485395If ai was good, trustworthy or useful, big corporations would not be literally begging on their knees to force it everywhere.
>Refreshing stanceWhat's so refreshing about it? Literally everyone in "creative" position is against AI when it comes to non AAA games.
>>739501429are you acoustic? op is obviously talking about llm's
>>739493761Memes have gotten worse for a while, and generative AI has take the last pieces of dignity it once had.
>>739501278WrongSee>>739500954>Ai is better than 75% of professionals
>>739501237the opposite actuallyLLMs suck ass at math
>>739501716>wrong>see: my made up percentageyawn
>>739493203>synthetic data? Am I ai?
>>739493225Clearnet is getting closed fast. Every service will cost and wagies will pay up.
>>739501239Every time somebody has told me "This AI image goes hard", I look at them and I can tell from just looking at the miniature that it is slop.>Cyberpunk, dragons, it had a lotThat is literally Shadowrun: Dragonfall
>>739494178Brainlet? Art trade and art have nothing in common. Art trade is a scam to enable rich people to deduct taxes.
>>739494379Curious I find more than ever. Maybe you don't know where to look at? Clearly Internet is getting shut down to maximise profit. Getting info is still possible.
>>739485145Retards are going to whine endlessly about AI, but the thing is, I guarantee it's already being used across just about every AAA studio, at the VERY least for problem-solving & troubleshooting, especially because deadlines are so tight in the industry and individuals cannot afford to pause for 2-3 days on an issue they're stuck on, especially if they want to stay competitive with their coworkers and other companies.Brainlets however see "AI" and immediately think about shitty AI generated art & videosIt's such a non-issue that too many people are acting boomerish about
>>739501880This AI image goes hard >>739496231
>>739495260Baby's first lebon moment
>>739501450Corpos are pushing their versions of AI to get the market before it's taken by independent, user owned versions. Don't be a retard anon.
>>739502115>I guarantee it's already being used across just about every AAA studioits writing major code for all of themand all the engines are fully ai coded now.your nvidia drivers are, same with amd, windows.anyone thinking ai isn't being used in games is braindead
>>739502115Also funny when it's artists who have 100% stolen work of other people that accuse AI of that.
>>739485395The thing is most people can't point to specifics bc there aren't many people openly saying that they used AI for X or Y, but I guarantee you it's being used across all industries to increase work pace and efficiency as well as to help problem-solve and reduce employment needs. I wouldn't doubt if the aggregated monetary savings AI is providing to companies across the world has already surpassed 1 bil USD
>>739498290>99% of people are degenerates100% of all people agree
>>739502115>>739502262>it's already being used across just about every AAA studiooh so that's why it's all been going to absolute shit at breakneck speed? makes sense
>>739502262kek so true I code professionally and I use Claude code for so much of my work (which I'll never openly admit for obvious reasons) and tons of coworkers openly use it for "troubleshooting". I'll often have to go in an make significant changes to certain chunks of code, but it saves me literal days of work and reduces my work load significantly. Even numerous company meetings about "ethical and appropriate AI use in the workplace" doesn't stop people from using it.
>>739502541For example?
>>739500043I was in the middle of a call. Working on my birthday feelsbadman.But zoomers are actually the main driving force behind the revival of physical media. Which might seem contradictory because they read way more in digital devices than older generations. They were born in the beginning of a digital age, which in turn makes them long for a connection to the physical world. Physical media feels more unique to them. More "premium" and genuine. It becomes some sort of bragging right. I'm close to the music scene and you hear all the time "I have that in vinyl". Same with books.You could argue that this is performative. I personally think that a person who tells me that they read 10 books a month is full of shit, but there's no way to quantify the actual consumption unless it's from actual sales.In general, zoomers consume way more media than older generations. This includes reading.
>>739502546Is it making you more productive or allowing you to be lazier. I figure a bit of both but as a econ major im curios how its ultimately playing out in total production at the end?
>>739502340>increase work pace and efficiencylmao did you ever try to use it profesionally? maybe for home use/entry level janitor tier it's impressive, but anything beyond that and you're wasting more time tardwrangling the chatbot than if you were to actually do it yourself; better scalability too. it's a scam
>>739502676Claude code is the only one that works well. The other ones are all shit. It's literally night and day.You still have to know your shit, but if you're stuck, you can always let Claude analyze your code, give it context, and ask for which approaches you can take with examples (code) and it will spit out genuinely professional code. I'm pretty sure it scrubs Github
>>739499509One of my best friends is an art curator for richfags and in those communities no one gives a single shit about AI. They are buying a metaphorical piece/part of the artist and their trajectory.Meanwhile, modern art and authors of it are also not concerned with AI because it's all a circular economy that is maintained by trustfund kids selling their works between each other, carefully gatekeeping their communities under the pretense of "getting it".The people that are affected by AI are commission based artists. And 90% of them do porn or iterate over IPs. Which is why they are so butthurt about it.If anything, AI appreciates the work of human made work. Simple supply and demand.
>>739502606Do you need examples of the modern gaming industry being shit?
>>739502659I think you are mistaking a lot of things for just how fragmented the market is now. I absolutely agree there is a significantly smaller media monopoly than we had and some really neat stuff has popped up. I think you are conveniently cherry picking though. You mentioned Manga, like yea but 98% dont consume that. Biggest market share by far is social media and streamers which is exponentially gayer and worse than anything we had. Some zoomers are reading but overall millennials read much more. So top 1% vs 50th percentile, absolutely. 50th percentile vs 50th percentile... you are going to be very disappointed.
>>739485395I've lost liters to AI erp.
>>739502674Both desuI enjoy coding, but there's a lot of crunch, particularly at the end of sprints, and I don't feel like late nights, so I won't hesitate to use shortcuts. Or I use it as my "pair programmer" because I don't like socializing with others & run it questions. No matter what, most of the code still has to come from me, or I need to analyze what gets generated and approve it, because it often does get touched by multiple channels.Production speed in the company imo has increased over the years. There used to be a lot more "downtime" where coworkers would go take mini-breaks and play pool or table football or something to "refresh" their heads, but I feel like most coworkers power through now, and either directly find another coworker for information exchange/help, or run to AI. The problem with the former is that it's a high-stress environment, especially at the end of sprints, so most workers DO NOT want to be bothered, because any time they give toward helping someone else out takes time away from their own work, which makes them look worse. That's also contributed to the rise of AI use.
>>739503146Yes & particularly those "shit" practices you somehow connect to AIIt's not a complicated request.
>>739503412I'm not that anon, he was probably just saying that it coincides with the absolute state of the gaming industry right now. I'm personally fine with AI usage as long as it's used as a tool and not a crutch. Faggots posting that "what if popular video game was real movie?!" clips can die in a fire though
>>739503368Thats hilarious. I did commodity sales and my biggest battle at work was fighting for my flow state. We were very stop and go too so if you just sent a email id be able to walk over after in probably 20 minutes, definitely an hour. They just could not wait though.I totally understand. Thats a very interesting externality.
>>739502674>doesn't know that programmers are now starting to polyphasic sleep because they want to take way more advantage of Claude's hourly limitsProduction is through the roof but also there's way more work to be had.And if someone tells you about "muh spaghetti AI code" they are probably junior devs who have no fucking idea what they are doing.My initial prompts are at least two pages long. I spend around 1 to 2 hours formulating the problem and leaving no stone unturned regarding underlying systems, related implementations in the codebase, stress points, etc.The issue with AI slop is that people think its a simple task of "do me X". Which is basically asking the AI to read your mind.One can become better than 99% of people who use AI by simply taking 3 hours of your time trying to understand how LLMs actually work. It's kind of funny.
>>739503821No I understand what he's getting at, I just think the two things are unrelatedThe poor state of the gaming industry has more to do with an explosion of production costs, HR/DEI trash suffocating dudebro creativity and decision-making in the workplace, etc. and little to do with AI
>>739503985>The poor state of the gaming industry has more to do with an explosion of production costs, HR/DEI trash suffocating dudebro creativity and decision-making in the workplace, etc. and little to do with AIAlso outsourced production to 3rd world shitters
>>739503985>>739504070Yea and those are the same people that try to make AI do 90% of their work which is why it's got a bad reputation partially.
>>739503981>One can become better than 99% of people who use AI by simply taking 3 hours of your time trying to understand how LLMs actually work. It's kind of funny.Shit man. Thats a really good point. Tim Ferris pushes everyone to learn how science papers work. 5 hours of boring stats and you'll be able to understand medical papers for the rest of your life. I thought his was brilliant but yours is WAY better.
