>>739563172
>>739562618
>>739560069
>>739558293
>>739553807
>>739521293
BUY A FUCKING AD

By far the most shilled game on this site. Even gachaslop doesn't come close.

>>739563172
It could be one game but it would feel incredibly empty since most locations in the OG are only used for a single event. Like you're only in Kalm for 15 minutes despite it being a whole town

>>739563359
The third one does read like an ad

>>739563429
Most remake threads are just calling it garbage. Why do you think those are shills

>>739563172
>So did this have to be multiple games?
Not it didnt, but Kitase and the team wanted it to look like AC so for that and not cut everything they had to.
And no, "removing the filler" wouldnt have made it a single game. Some sidequests dont replace rocket town or entire regions/cities

>>739563172
>So did this have to be multiple games?
Yes. VII Remake is the most anticipated remake for one of the most beloved stories, setting and characters. Fans want to spend time there, properly.

>>739563495
Which is exactly what you need for a globe-spanning adventure story.

>>739563495
Yeah, most people are just retarded and don’t think this through. You have 1-for-1 fags who don’t realize that a remake of that sort is pointless. Then you have fags who shit on Rebirth for having “too much padding”. But expanding this world out into a fully explorable 3d environment with actual towns and shit was always going to make the game larger than the original.

But unfortunately I share this space with a multitude of idiots, so it is what it is.

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This is what mods want /v/ to be. Every time a mod is active the board gets hit with a torrent of shitty rpg spam while video game stuff gets deleted. If they were open about their behavior this site would be dead in one day tops. There wouldn't be a single person left. The statement that free speech is allowed on /v/ is entirely illusory. It's whatever the mod wants. Even reddit is less tyranical and sock puppeted.

He's going to sit here the entire holiday and make extremely low effort rpg threads hoping some third world esl will have a brief back and forth with him lol

>>739563753
it's just a thread about a game, why are you acting so weird

>>739563716
people don't know what they want. they would have also complained if you get to Junon and only spend 20 minutes there before moving on.

>>739563879
No it's not, this anon is correct >>739563359
You make a billion threads to push other discussion out. No choice but to interact with you if your threads are all that's left, right? But that's not true because the site is dying now. People would rather leave than interact with you. This place isn't fun any more, I'm gunna go play video games.

>>739563172
The entire trilogy should have been one game the length of rebirth. It would have been perfect.

>>739564017
Take your pills faggot

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>>739563172
>So did this have to be multiple games?
How else were they going to do it? The scope of the game in high-fidelity is absolutely enormous.

>But with the scope of FFVII, could a remake have actually been one game?
No, Square Enix has been working on the Remake Project since 2014, and by the time the trilogy is finished, almost 13 years will have passed. It is not justifiable to spend 13 years developing a single game.

>>739564139
It's obvious with everyone that isn't a brain rotted normalfaggot, you'd have to be completely blind not to see it lol. Nothing about this site is organic any more.

>>739563172
it could've been if they did an hd-2d remake instead or something but as a 3d arpg i don't think so.

>>739563172
It's forgotten trivia now, but when it was first announced as a multi-part series they were very elusive about how many installments it would be. "As many as it takes" or something like that was the response. If it had been a bigger hit you can bet they would have stretched it out to 5 or 6 or however many they thought the market would support.

>>739563359
holy shit get a job, who spends all their time keeping up with what's going on in the catalog

>>739563532
How many OPs are?

>>739564427
>holy shit get a job
You do yours for free

>>739563172
It SHOULD HAVE BEEN just ONE (1) completed game. Now, they've covered 1/4th of the PS1 game's FIRST DISC, and made it into this weirdass MCU wannabe timey-wimey alternative reality fanfic SEQUEL, with Pajeet art and DEI projecting everywhere, on top of FFXV x Ubishit gameplay.

Everything added in Rebirth was great despite the ending. The padding was pretty bad in Remake though. I think overall expanding the content to make a giant trilogy served the game much better than just showing up to a location and spending 30 minutes in an area before moving on. In a giant open world that would have felt weird when everything is high fidelity.

>>739563359
Completely inorganic discussion. Probably the most shilled game here daily, while all the engagement comes from shills and bots.

>>739563359
Uh-oh, melty.

>>739564256
They just released the game on two new platforms and they're releasing another one one two new platforms soon, then they're announcing a brand new one on every platform after that.
Of course people are discussing these games, you are retarded.

>>739563359
This should be a bannable offense.

Did they ever come out and say how many copies Rebirth sold?

>>739563753
this is how another Barry schizo is born

>>739565189
>another
I have news for you. 7Rposting is Barry's new obsession.

The weird thing is did they really thing they could get away with splitting a continuous story across 3 games and release them over a decade?
Even if it was a faithful 1:1 remake, most people would lose their interest by the time part 3 released.

>>739564716
>They just released the game on two new platforms
Anon, big companies like square enix are always doing something to trend on social media. By this logic, /v/ would always be an advertising billboard for these companies. They pay marketers millions of dollars to constantly social media trend. Additionally, it's obviously a flat out lie these people are playing the game for the first time, it's the same threads with the same posts every single day. Additionally, it's not until June 3.

And beyond this, who is even playing this crap? How can you possibly like this? Show me even 5 seconds of thrilling FF7 gameplay. This is just embarassing dude. You can't post even 5 seconds of the game not being embarrassingly bad garbage. These threads will never have gameplay in them, it's all shitposting and "lore" to awkwardly sidestep around actually discussing the game, like awkwardly stepping around a pile of dogshit on the sidewalk.

Get real nigger

>>739565474
Shut up karen

>>739565615
5 seconds

>>739565692
I have 4chanx my tab get highlighted when there is a reply karen

>>739563172
It could be a near exact copy of FF7 and be one game. That might be more appealing, except a lot of people would rightly ask what the fuck is the point when the original already exists. Remake is a complete game that covers a lot of events from FF7, but things that were done in 5 minutes there became a very detailed part of Remake. Rebirth does a similar thing, even more obviously with the overworld not being an interstitial area between towns where Cloud is 100 feet tall and the ground is a flat green carpet. It didn't have to be multiple games, but it didn't have to be fun, either.

>>739565735
Just 5 seconds, let's go. Surely you didn't pay $240 for a bad game broken up into multiple parts without even 5 seconds of enjoyable gameplay. Just so you could soiface over cutscenes. Let's discuss the game for real. Come on. Are you scared?

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>>739563172
If they made the story exactly the same and cut out all the side bosses and the game was less of an open world it could have bean a single game.
Remakes do have a lot of new stuff in them they are not just a 1:1 grafical update.
Also the "Remakes" are more like alternate timeline alternate stories not actual remakes. It exists alongside the orignal game its not meant to replace it.
Even Sqnix updated the orignal game recently for free on steam so it works better on the deck (the first version of the update was buggy but they fixed it).
So this is not a case of the developer wanting to replace the orignal as some people believe.
Id argue its hard to acualy enjoy the Remakes if you have not played the orignal.

>>739565951
I agree the games fucking suck, but it isn't because of the gameplay. Also kill yourself

>>739566029
The original game is normalfag dogshit too. 5 seconds, let's go.

>>739565990
Nah, I don't think so. Keeping this "1:1" scale they're trying, you'd probably still need 2 games for a remake.
Instead of releasing it in 3 discs with the third disc's content being mostly FMVs, they'd need to release the remake in 2 discs sold separately as standalone games.
This is the times we're living in now.

>>739563172
>should they have only sold 1 game instead of 2

>>739565692
I made a claim and i shift the burden of prof on to you.
But ill humor you.
Here is a combo video of the kind of stuff you can do in game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc1jOeVFFmI
FFVII remake has arguably the best combat system in the entire FF series history.

Oh and you not liking it is just a opinion of a random online retard not a fact that the combat system is acualy bad just because you dont like it.

>>739566212
but making multiple games is expensive, surely FFVII Remake as a single game is cheaper and you can sell it for years. Nobody else remakes games into multiple parts

>>739566342
>Nobody else remakes games into multiple parts
well you have blizzard selling you 1 game cut into 3 or more pieces . not a remake but still same shit

>>739566156
If you striped out all the new content the 2 games would have bean like 30 hours.
I have 98 hours in Rebirth and this is just me playing all the side content on a first pass.
I still have not done all the hard mode mini-games and the game on Hard New Game + no items difficulty.

>But with the scope of FFVII, could a remake have actually been one game?
At the production value of the Remake games? Probably not.

>>739566323
>>739565692
.
>I made a claim and i shift the burden of prof on to you.
Forgot the green-text

>>739566452
I finished Rebirth doing 100% of content in normal mode and still haven't replayed it for the extra VR challenges + hard mode run and clocked 158h.
You could remove 20h or so by idle running in the background but it's still a lot of fucking time. It's about on part with a completionist run of the original.

>>739566323
Okay, this is important. I'm going to explain to you why character action games are bad, and modern character action games are even worse. Here's how a combo works in an old fighting game
https://youtu.be/Fx55YfmPejY
Execution is not only a mechanical challenge, but also a style of play that makes a game unique and fun. What do you think the rhythm of the combos in ff7r sounds like? Probably this
https://youtu.be/Z6eqqfVJCdU
The generous interpreters in these games simply make them boring, they are "games" made for retarded dudebros that don't play anything and don't know any better.

Remake is the length of the orignal game alone.
Rebirth is 2X longer.

>>739564052
This. The original game is only about 30-40 hours to 100% everything . It would never fly for an RPG today, but 150-200 hours would be perfect.

I still want part 3 just to use Cid in the party but needless to say I'm completely bummed already with this remake trilogy.
The saving grace is, if Square really is autistic about not going back to turn-based, 7R's system is completely improvable for 17. Much better than trying a devil may cry clone and put stagger bars in it.

>>739563172
unironically yes, the first remake is just 1hour in the original, they were able to create so much content and make the world truly feel alive to the point of having 50h

>>739563172
Yes

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>>739563359
It is pretty funny that every 7R schizo cries about how "astroturfed" E33 is while /v/ has a dozen identical 7R threads with the exact same posts every time, made around the clock, every single day.

>>739566212
No one bought the second tho
And the third will be even worse

>>739566619
This sounds like subjective autistic logic that is grounded in some personal opinion you managed to convince your self are fact because of said autism.
Il just say that fighting games and character action games are not the same genre and equating game complexity to how precisely you can convert combos to key strokes as in obsesing over things being exactly the same and set in stone is literally autism.
And believe it or not i play end enjoy booth of them. And not just on a casual level.

>>739566539
>production value
80% of these games are made by outsourced indians in a shed throwing UE assets around like shit

>>739566927
>80% of these games are made by outsourced indians in a shed throwing UE assets around like shit
And?

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>>739566539
>the production value of the Remake games

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>>739566921
>This sounds like subjective autistic logic
It's not. Character action games are to execution what auto aim is to console fps. It's a casual normalfag genre.

>>739563429
It's 4chan. You know most threads here are paid for don't you?

If you make an actual fun thread like caturday or talk about video games then that gets wiped.

Here's another paid thread for BG3 or whatever other shits been paid for this month

>>739566619
but FFVIIR is not a character action game, it's an rpg

>>739564342
Wait didn't they say the same thing about versus 13? Look how that turned out

>>739563172
By the time Retrilogy is done it will be a 300 hour game, what do you think?

>>739567167
RPG is not a real genre. It's just an arbitrary tag you attach onto another genre to indicate you're supposed to pretend it isn't shit. No one enjoys the combat in final fantasy games, they are just VNs that are 95% padding. The RPG tag is to indicate that this is somehow arbitrarily acceptable.

>>739567276
It's a dumb thing because it's either too loose of a definition because you're "role-playing" as any character in a story heavy game or it's pointless because most of what we call rpgs are glorified visual novels, especially japanese ones. No choices, no role to play even if it is between a red and a blue ending slide.

>>739563716
What would be a valid criticism of 7R?

>>739567003
By this logic you should have no problem finishing Ninja Gaiden on hard or Bayoneta whit all Platinum ranks Or Devil May cry games on New Game + difficulty just by mashing buttons.
You might be confusing gacha games with character action games. Gacha games are in fact just pale imitations of Character action.

Also you have missed an important part of Fighting games.
The movent what would piano keys sound in a fighting game during neutral or during neutral movent.
Combos may be predictable like a piano song but the core of fighting games is the proper neutral and proper movent and those are anything but precise and rhythmic.
Just like a predictable casual you have boiled down Fighting games to literally just the Combos which are the lest important part of a good fighting game.
Main reason why Character action games sound like mashing to you is specifically because they are not predictable 1:1 matches like fighting games. What you think is mashing is just a player adjusting for multiple variables during a fight.

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>>739567373
ok just once i will explain why 7r criticism is objectively not "valid"
Before 2015, i was just your usual /v/ poster that always begged for remakes of my old favorite games, and with that i created this perfect remake in my head of X game. dont tell me you didnt do the same i will not believe you.
When the remake was announced, i screamed. I thought it was gonna be the best thing ever and all. Time passed and once the dust settled, while lurking here and other places, i realized that if i expect this remake to be exactly what i wanted or a replacement of the original game, i was gonna be heavily dissapointed. So what did i do? i just hoped for a good game, a game where i could sit down, play it and say "wow that was entertaining, im glad i played it, cant wait to see more". A complement of the original, a game that it is its own thing and i judge it just like that. Not to mention that in the interviews they have said countless of times that there was gonna be changes.
And guess what? thats what i got and more. To me it doesnt replace the original, it just enhances it. A complement. Unlike most of you, i never thought that the original needed a remake at all. Even if i dont replay it anymore since it bores me to death since it doesnt offer me anything now, boomers like me have played it thousands of tmes. do you want a modern FF7 without the old ps1 restrains and objectively better characters, music, graphics and gameplay? play remake
>b-b-but muh time jannies muh story bla bla muh backgrounds epic ps1 old legend!
Then play new threat. It is the same ff7 just better written, waaaaaay better gameplay, balance and better usage of its mechanics. Also, more content, more sidequests and so on. Theres no reason to play the original anymore.

>>739567420
*Movement

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>>739567276
>implying

Sure VI *looks* a little bit better with it's sprites & backgrounds but the gameplay taking two steps back really hurt it,not to mention when you actually get to world of ruin the game becomes a complete slog losing all your party members

>>739567506
Not a difficult question, unless you're a fanboy. Check each time that question gets answered.

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>>739567497
And to end and this explain this idea on why i stopped asking for remakes? it is pretty simple. Fans dont know what they want and there are never clear ideas. And when the corps offer you something thats supposed to represent you, you just throw it away like a cumrag. People want remakes, but dont want the same game, but only new content that THEY like and fit their own headcanon. Stop asking for remakes. If you ask for remakes, expect changes. If you expect changes, expect stuff you probably wont like. It is that simple. Do you want a remake? then accept the risk or just shut the fuck up. Do you understand? If you want complain: JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. you wanted a remake, a remake will have changes. Accept that and be quiet. even if you got the perfect remake you imagined you would nitpick and hate it. You cannot want remake then turn around and say "no i hate it"
THAT is why i do not accept you complain about time jannies and kingdom hearts and bla bla
i do not accept you complain about muh elevator instead of realistic
i do not accept you complain about cid isnt 24/7 smoking instead of realistic
i do not accept you complain about Dirge. FF7 never had the most stellar storytelling to begin with.
i actually play videogames so i never felt this "horrible padding" people mention so much

or any of your other nitpicks that you make huge deal just because it was different to what you imagine in your head. All of you forgot about what videogames are. Videogames rarely are well written unless its a videogame movie like the last of us 1.

>>739567420
>The movent what would piano keys sound in a fighting game during neutral or during neutral movent.
Marvel has very execution heavy and rhythmic movement in neutral.
https://www.youtube.com/live/mh3fJ1wLXTA
The primary difficulty in marvel is actually not combos, but neutral. This is where old and modern fighting games differ heavily.

>>739567612
Proof that the "discussion" in these threads is manufactured garbage

>>739567276
but what genre is FFVIIR if not an RPG? It is not like Ninja Gaiden or Devil may Cry

There are multiple daily threads about FF7 Remake
What the actual fuck

>>739567612
>>739567687
Grim

>>739567696
>about FF7 Remake
let's not kid ourselves
there are daily threads about ff7 girls, and sometimes threads about how ffviir is shit

>>739567753
Ok fair

>>739567682
It's literally a very dumbed down character action game with tons of padding. The gamsplay is simply so sparse cognitive dissonance will not allow you to come to that realization.

>>739567497
>>739567589
You're serious aren't you

You're so retarded I don't even know where to begin

But at least this explains why these threads are the way they are

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>>739567874
Brutal
But fair

for the anons whining about rpgs, I think the core gameplay loop of rpgs is resource management while dungeon delving and equipping your team. It's more of a strategy game than anything; however, it is augmented by the fact that you can just bypass things by grinding if you feel like it. Then you can just enjoy the music/story/art without engaging with the gameplay itself.

>>739567874
what is compilation

>>739567874
He's right but so what? Still buying for nomuras wild ride and cloti highwind sex scene

>>739567923
>resource management
What resource are you managing in final fantasy lol

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>>739563172
that thread was a goldmine

>>739567959
magic

>>739567497
>>739567589
>literally no criticism of remake is valid
Thanks for your honesty

>>739567959
have you never played an rpg or something?

>>739568029
lol

>>739567874
He's wrong, but only because they're planning DLC for part 3 already. They won't let this turd go. We'll be forced to hear about it for a few years longer.

>>739568068
You're pretending something that takes a single brain cell of thinking power is a defining feature of a genre

>>739567497
>>739567589
I cant imagine how miserable life must be for someone with this mindset

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>>739567497
>i will explain why 7r criticism is objectively not "valid"

>>739563716
This. These days in large scale rpgs people would scream and bitch if a town was just a 5 minute pit stop. People forget Kalm is a single rendered image which has nothing impactful gameplay-wise except a merchant later on. A game would be shredded apart if it did a lot of what the original FF7 did.

>>739568536
im sure you saw a lot of people complaining about how we see too much sephiroth in the game when we shouldnt since sephiroth was supposed to be in the dark and bla bla. It was cool in the original, but it is also bad written since sephiroth should be annoying cloud since the beginning realistically. It makes sense for sephiroth to stalk cloud earlier, but that kills his old misterious appereances.

>>739568536
Those people will complain no matter what SE do. They complain about what we got and would complain even if they got exactly what they wanted.
But at least there are anons like you and me who will love and defend it no matter what SE do, and remind complainers they're wrong no matter what they say, and that they would hate it even if it was different.

>>739568891
Everyone who bitches about the new moogles would be bitching even if the moogles looked exactly the way they wanted them to

>>739563359
kek OP shit shattered.
>>739563172
This whole remake is a fucking travesty and I refuse to play it. I feel like an idiot for ever even wanting it in the first place. You cannot remake such a game as FF7 it was always going to end up getting butchered. No FF game should ever be remade. Only touched up for porting purposes only but the experience should be left as intact as possible.

>>739568952
This.

>>739568952
Nah, they look fine in 13-2 and 16, for example.

7r troons are the worst

>>739569034
You are an idiot who does not know what they want

>>739568536
>>739568891
Based!

>>739569112
I don't care about fucking moogles. They're just a mascot. Design them however you want.

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>>739563359
>t.

>>739569193
>I don't care
Oh phew that's ok I thought for a second you were saying the design of the moogles in 7R was a valid criticism, but you aren't

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>>739566619
Just because you mash like a retard in Character action games does not mean everyone else mashes like a retard.
I am pretty sure people who are as scrubby at fighting games as you are at character action games also mash like retards.

>>739569194
Uh oh melty!

>>739567497
>>739567589
Uh oh, melty

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>>739569193
>They're just a mascot.
A mascot should be recognizable. The moogles in FF7R are almost as bad as the ones in FF12. They're not even close to resembling the mascot.

>>739569320
I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE ME SAY THE 7R MOOGLES LOOK GOOD OR BAD
I DON'T CARE
DROP IT

>>739569193
>>739569364
It would really hurt you to admit the7R moogles look ugly, wouldn't it

>>739563596
So if we got rid of the world map would that also be fine, make it truly linear like FFX because you basically don't have optional places to go and those could just be backdrops.

That said, its also on S-E for not thinking an old-school world map could work again while E33 came out later and did it and no one cared that realistic people are running like giants on a zoomed out map.

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>>739569364
You're shouting an awful lot for someone who "doesn't care".

>>739569414
To those suffering from "Barry Brain" no inch must be given. He'd rather die than say something bad about VIIR. Have you heard of the Ba7ry Test?

>>739569414
They look like dumb koalas but I hate them more because you have to do that stupid minigame 5 or 6 times and not because of the design.

>>739569507
>complaining about optional content
Oh anon haven't we taught you this lesson already?

>>739569194
Who's this poor guy and why are you stealing his pictures

>>739569482
No? Tell me more

Final Fantasy VII "organic" discussion, everyone >>739567364

>>739569568
"optional", you have a handful of SP tomes locked behind doing them.

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>>739569593
What Is The BA7RY Test?

Firstly, who is Barry? Barry is a XV fan who combs 4chan for posts criticizing XV to reply to. In his mind, every criticism of XV is wrong, no matter how big, small, reasonable or unreasonable. It's all wrong, and he will set you straight on that matter.
Unfortunately, FFVIIR has its own Barry, named BA7RY, who acts in the same way. He's hard to miss. Do you suspect he's ITT? Then apply the BA7RY test. It's simple!

Just ask him: "What would be a valid criticism of VIIR?"

Barry would never criticize XV, even slightly. And BA7RY will never criticize VIIR either. This simple test lets you know if you're talking to a reasonable person who is capable of discussion, or a wall of fanboy autism who will never give an inch and is only here to tell you that you're wrong wrong wrong!
If your anon replies reasonably, he passes the BA7RY test. If he immediately chimps out and starts screaming about boogymen, BINGO! That's a BA7RY! After all, Barry's favourite tactic was to call everyone Nathan. Because only one person ever called out Barry, right?
Try it yourself!

>>739569720
I'll keep this in mind in future threads. Thank you!

>>739569720
They baited all that shit in Intergrade and went nowhere with it.
I seriously hope they're not trying to shove Nu-Wutai War, Discs 2-3 and all this Dirge cliffhanger baiting all in one game. Part 3 is going to be a bloated mess. Rebirth will look concise in comparison.

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>>739569958
What was the point of that? I don't think they or their employers show up again in Rebirth.

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>>739569720
>t.

>>739570034
>What was the point of that?
To pad out the gameplay.

>>739563172
I'd have preferred it to be one massive game like the original, but if they had to split it up, I'd also have preferred if it was just two parts, part one ending where Rebirth ends and part two being everything after and maybe an expanded post game. Three parts is too much, it reminds me of the Hobbit movie trilogy.

Final Fantasy VII spergs are the lowest subhumans on /v/

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>>739569958
>Barry is in Rebirth
>and he is brown
kek nice touch, Hamaguchi.

>>739569720
I see you're ruffling feathers already, that tells me you're on to something.
>>739569932
Don't worry, all the threads that go nowhere in 7R can become future spinoff material and DLC in its own right.
>>739570034
The longer the game is the better, it doesn't matter what it is.

>>739563359
Fpbp why do we need multiple final fantasy threads daily this is unnatural

>>739570592
I'm always curious about it. FF isn't even relevant since the mid 2000s. And yet I'm completely sure it's the subject of a disproportionate amount of threads here.

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>>739567497
>>739567589
Interesting, Jimbo.
So you went to the archives to really old 2020 threads, get a couple of posts that got you angry, fused them into one, removing any sort of niceness/neutral position of the posts, adding your own "muh objectively not valid" trademark writing, and then posted them here. Very interesting.
You cant tell me you are not mentally ill. I dont think people normally would go to the archives and to take posts and rewrite them to post them here and pretend to be them.

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>>739571962
>>739567589
>>739567497
Interesting rewriting.
Are you adding your own gripes to old 2020 posts that made you mad, twisting them into what you think people wanted to say here? mmm...

Absolutely not, it's an experiment to fleece fans by splicing a game, filling with fluff and stupidity and selling it tons of times. Seems to be working well

>>739572254
Wait, you think criticism of the remake elevator is valid?

>>739572819
The reactors in the og looked like ass that's why retards can't make comparisons for the rest of the reactor.

>>739572819
I understand that your gender dysphoria makes it hard to understand that people disagreeing with you doesnt mean they are invalidating you.

>>739572859
Ok so you don't accept criticism of the new reactor. How about the Cid smoking criticism?

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>>739573081
I feel like you should wait until the game releases before complaining that cid isnt 24/7 smoking because otherwise it makes look like a fucking retard. Cid in the OG is always "smoking" because the style and the static images allow him to be smoking. The smoke appears and disappears depending on the game because it doesnt care about it. In battle its a prop because he never moves his mouth. The field model doesnt have it because at first they wanted to add mouths and it was gonna move, so no cigar otherwise it looks stupid.

If you want to depict smoking in remake, then it should be used realistically, not 24/7 because little timmy cant handle cid not smoking 24/7. The smoke is supposed to represent that hes a jadded "old man", that hes frustrated and stressed. Same when it comes to alcoholism in videogames. My bet is that cid will smoke when hes thinking, in his own world, maybe reflecting on stuff.

>>739573190
Damn! So that criticism doesn't escape your ire either... hmm we're running out of options.
Are you ok with people shitting on Dirge? At the least?

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>>739573190
I would incline to agree with you but i would also wait for part 3 since SE and specially Japan itself is very stingy nowadays with smoking. There's a real possibility that Cid never smokes again.
Then again, people getting triggered over it like Cid is only that is weird because it really makes a disservice to Cid to only remember him or consider him as someone who screams and smokes and then got nothing to say about him.
More than he NEEDS the cigarrette, i fee like in general he looks way cooler with a smoke. There's a mod that includes it and it is perfect.

>>739563172
I bought the first one, but will only buy the subsequent games when a mod exists that removes africans and gays from npcs in the background and scenes.

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>>739573291
No. Too many people hold FF7 as an incorruptible pillar of their childhood instead of the silly anime it is. I grew up with FF7 but I won't treat it like the holy grail. It wasn't perfect but it was what made my childhood. I never really had much of a problem with the compilation. FF7 never had the most stellar storytelling to begin with. I grow up with FF7 and have no problem with DC and AC at all, it was your typical anime shit.

>>739573537
Well that only leaves us with the padding criticism. Are you ok with that?

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>>739573596
Which i disagree because in the original, the shinra building rescue mission was poorly written. You get in, blasting dudes, with no consequences, no soldiers, the upper floors dont know anything, bla bla. At least in the remake the context is better thanks to domino intervention.
And i dont think you like the jail scene, i think what you liked was jenova getting out and the trails of blood.
The jail scene was a bad scene that forced the characters to have a deep talk in a place that shouldnt have happened in the first place, why the fuck is aeris captures there and next to the others? Also, the same scene happens in a more important part: aerith room where she used to live.
Complain about the trails of blood all you want, but to say that the jail was better than aerith room, is just insanity. mmm...

>>739573706
>>513222443

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>>739573706
Well shit anon I think you can now remove the ??? from this image >>739572254 because it seems to be an accurate reflection of your views.

Of course... you could tell us one criticism of 7R you actually would accept and that would really destroy the narrative that you are FFVIIR's Barry...

>>739569248
The most optimal way to input combos in character action is to mash out combos due to input storage. Pressing buttons to the tune of "my fair lady" is of no benefit.

>>739573803
Damn, BA7RY has been invalidating every criticism of 7R for over 6 years. I wonder is there ANY he'd accept?

>>739569720
I wasn't sure I believed you until I saw >>739573803

>>739574016
>rebranding
By all means tell us what parts you feel are misrepresentative?

>>739574149
You're getting angry at your own opinions again

>>739574110
I'll give you one last chance, jimbo.
Do you even realize what you are doing right now? how do you look at yourself in the mirror and then say "yes, im a sane person". Look at what you are doing right now. Look at the effort you put on it. Download the pics, name them the same. Surfing into the archives, copy paste posts from 6 years ago and add your own. All for what? the "lols"? Is this gonna be your legacy? is this how you want to be remembered? "ah yes that troll that shows up in FFVIIR threads and spends hours trying to get back at someone who wronged him"

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a valid criticism is the audience ff7r managed to attract. i don't think I've seen another rpg have this it's basically an anime.

>>739574336
>I'll give you one last chance, jimbo.
LMAO ok ok I can see this is VERY serious.

To answer your question: yes I am sane.
Now, answer me this: do you feel I'm making fun of you, or angry about ffviir existing? Think really hard about this before you answer. (Just kidding, you won't answer)

>>739574336
Hi Ba7ry. Can you tell us one valid criticism of VIIR?

>>739574436
And Street Fighter is getting a Tifa Crossover. They are going to have to deal with this regularly now.

>>739574464
>yes I am sane.
Good joke.
>do you feel I'm making fun of you, or angry about ffviir existing?
Me? no, not at all. More like the idea you created in your head of me. Also you definitely are angry at the game existing, you have showed it for 6 years or so.
Keep bumping the thread to 500 posts, thats what you are here for. Talking to yourself, spend your time in the archives, get angry.

>>739574634
>More like the idea you created in your head of me.
Anon I am repeating your own posts verbatim.

>>739574531
He cannot

>>739563172
If they actually made good with the promise of breaking free from fate and starting an unknown journey, then yes I think splitting the games into three parts could have been justified. Also they had a fantastic chance to let the player make choices that affected the course of the story over the trilogy but they didn't take it.
The trilogy so far is just retelling the same story but in a way that sucks, and as it is now it should not be three games.

>>739575232
loved every second of it. really glad they took that thing off the rails at the end. im much more excited for whats next than if they were just retreading the original game. Nomura's wild ride at least isn't predictable. Cant wait for barret vs dyne

>>739563172
A metasequel made more sense

What do we call the Barry of FF7 remakes? There's clearly a Barry -like entity in these threads.

>>739575668
BA7RY. Like Barry, he'll reply to any negative post to set the record straight. There's a good primer on him here >>739569720

>>739575746
>BA7RY
That's pretty good
It seems like every FF game has that one fan who goes insane from defending it

>>739569720
>If he immediately chimps out and starts screaming about boogymen, BINGO! That's a BA7RY!
I tried it ITT and this is exactly what happened

Personally for me, I think Remake could have been much shorter and folded into Rebirth, but I really can't see Rebirth being shortened.

>>739563172
>So did this have to be multiple games?
yes it did. All those ubisoft towers wouldn't fit in one game you retard

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>>739569720
>BA7RY
That's me! I just love how much I trigger you, Barry and Jimbo. kek

By the way, Remake Part 3 will win GOTY. You can screencap this and add it to your little collection of posts that triggered you. :))))

>>739563359
wouldn't be wiser to buy the product being advertised in the ad? Why would i buy an ad?

>>739577094
>That's me!
No it's not juju. Ba7ry doesn't want attention, and you are desperate for it.
>Part 3 will win GOTY
You're being very silly today.

>>739569720
>If he immediately chimps out and starts screaming about boogymen, BINGO! That's a BA7RY!
It works!

It probably should have been 2, but I think they didn't have it worked out plus the actual asset creation for all these varied locations in full 3D was something S-E hadn't done before. FF15 as a whole is like half a Rebirth in content/scope. You can see a stark difference in say Forspoken's open world to Rebirth too.

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>>739577569
>Barry doesn't exist
kek

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>>739563172
I like the new stuff

>>739564470
Who the fuck cares if most posts call it garbage? The original is a beloved game, one of the most beloved games in the history of gaming. The remake is controversial, and it inspires the passion of fans of the original, those who never played the original, and inevitable salty faggots like you that are tired of hearing it. It always generates discussion. Sounds worthwhile to me, even if the OP might be a shill, a schizo, or just someone who genuinely wants to talk about their favorite game and its remake.

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>>739563495
Yup every village took an hour tops. I did like coming back to locations just to enjoy the soundtrack and leave it on in the background.

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>>739577350
I don't always reveal myself, but I am oh so very real. Just like Barry.

If you were a true believer in BAR7Y aka Larry, then you would recognize me by the jpgs and webms I post. :))))

>>739567373
Tifa boobs too small

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>>739565474
The seethe the remakes exist is autistic level. I'm going to enjoy the salt mines as part 3 marketing starts very soon.

>>739578367
I'm going to like it no matter what SE do. Will you be doing the same?

>>739565990
The entire OG story exists on both games. A mod that edits out the new stuff would be ridiculously easy. Nothing has been removed, only a meta story added and some optional spots being reworked (like Gongaga).

>>739566881
>liking a game based on other people buying it
NGMI

>>739566984
I spent 20 minutes eating those sandwiches in the demo

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>>739578367
The marketing cycle has already started. Hamaguchi is talking more than ever before and the Square Enix twitter channels are spamming VII Remake stuff. We are definitely getting a trailer at the State of Play and/or Summer Game Fest.

t.BA7RY

>>739579362
Versus XIII never ever

>>739563172
>they expanded it in many places
Stop right there. They padded it. A game that was already tl;dp slop was padded out even moar.
>>739568980
>This whole remake is a fucking travesty and I refuse to play it.
The first one came free on PSN and it was dogshit.
>You cannot remake such a game as FF7
Sure you can, but you shouldn't. FF7 has always been garbage.

>>739563429
Shut up gachafag

>>739567497
Same boat. I've played the original so much I can quote it and recall from memory every single bit of story. I want to feel something new with these characters I love. My favorite parts of Rebirth was the Gongaga lifestream stuff (all new) and the Temple of the Ancients (very different from the OG where the temple was a snore). I like the Cloud murder hobo arc
I don't give a shit if new players who aren't me were confused by the Aerith death. They didn't seem to mind and it would have made me feel nothing anyway because I've seen how it plays out dozens of times. Only people projecting seem to care.

My only real complaint with Rebirth is not having the ability to explore the city of the Ancients before decending to the alter. I'm hoping once the party breaks the news to Cloud that Aerith isn't camping there that he will run back to double check and I can explore then or go later with Bugenhagen.

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>>739569320
FF9 Moogles are the cutest. 7 doesn't even have moogles originally except for a single moogle sex dating side game. Their voices offend me more then the teeth.

>>739563172
>most overrated game and rpg ever made

>>739573443
Remake made Cid being hot canon. This gives them a pass for making moogles ugly.

>>739573706
The Shinra building was objectively an improvement in the Remake vs the OG. Only the trail of blood being removed was a negative.

>>739574436
The OG was responsible for the first waifu wars and Yaoi. It came out right before the internet and was a shared cultural reference for the original anime goon posting. The remakes can't even touch the saturation the original had on the internet. What you see now are just echoes.

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>>739580362
>7 doesn't even have moogles originally
Should've stayed that way. Many FF games do not have actual moogles. VII, X, and XV only have them appear as plushies or costumes. Especially with the supposed connection between VII and X it would make more sense not to include them.

>>739563172

IDK about Rebirth because after Remake i skipped it completely but Remake is 95% filler.

>>739581256
Rebirth is 99.9% filler. It's insane how they managed to stretch the remainder of Disc 1 into 150 hours.
And now Part 3 needs to do all of Disc 2 and 3, and there's still parts of Disc 1 missing like Fort Condor.

>>739578501
I'll let you know after I played it. I don't play into unconditional hate/love.

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>>739563172
No, which is why it's padded to hell and back as it forced to justified the whole thing in the laziest way possible since they didn't actually feel like writing a real script yet had to come up with something and sephiroth mystery box was all they could shit out over an afternoon spitball session.

>>739563172
>But with the scope of FFVII, could a remake have actually been one game?
Not with the insistence of voice acting and 4k textures.

>>739581464
Remake Part 3 will win GOTY

>>739581608
>Not with the insistence of voice acting and 4k textures.
Even with that, yes they could, especially with how long it took to make. A 200+ hour long game with voice acting is standard for large AAA titles these days.

>>739581702
Can't wait to see it losing to Persona 6.

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>>739567497
Based.

>>739581856
Persona 6 is not releasing before 2030.
Part 3 comes out next year. Only way it loses GOTY is if GTA 6 gets delayed again.

>>739582118
yeah I'm not sure why the guy who originally posted it is so embarrassed by it now

>>739563172
Fucking hell, this game isn't even completely out yet?

>>739581608
FF7 isn't really that big of a game.

>>739583081
It's not. But consider the decidedly fewer locales of a game like Monster Hunter Worlds, then consider how its 4k texture pack adds near another hundred gig to its filesize.

>>739583575
And? Most of the data from Remake is just copied in Rebirth, and even if the game was 250GB, that'd still be less than the latest CoD.

>>739584215
>Most of the data from Remake is just copied in Rebirth
What fuck ass Remake did you play that had deserts, forests, stone temples, and beaches?

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>>739567497
Your argument has had no material effect on reality yet ours has directly changed the course of the company itself.

>>739583052
one more part to go, probably next year