>Pocketing?>I just heal everyone.
Pocketing? I just stand near the objective and spam Amputator taunt.
>Health drops to 124DOC COME ON MAN
>>739579457Who stopped sucking ze cock? I want names!
>Pocketing my Heavy/Soldier bf? Of course, that's why we won.
I have almost 3k hours in tf2 and I am at least semi competent with all classes except medic. I heal everyone but focus on whoever is the main attacking/defending force in a fight and try to maintain overheal on as many people as I can between fights. Which is to say that I die a lot.
>>739582308You see Anon, it's because you're thinking like a Healer, when you should be thinking like Medic.You gotta be a little selfish.If your pocket is running into certain death, fuck him.Your Uber bar has more value than his life.
>>739582580I'll bear that in mind. But the healing is not as rewarding as the hurting.
>>739579457I try to heal everyone but I usually try to follow around and focus on whatever particular Heavy/Soldier/Demo/Pyro who knows what he's doingI will deliberately avoid healing furfags and unfunny zoomer porn addicts and make things harder for them
>>739582308It's girlfriend mode, don't overthink it.
>>739582308whenever i play medic i check for both who is top scoring on the team and who has the best K/D and try to prioritize healing them
>>739579457Unless the scout at 122HP steals the medikit in front of me when I'm low or burning. I'm cursing that guy with cold fingers.
>>739582308You're supposed to stick to a power class that's doing good and prioritize building uber. Never risk yourself for anyone else and never stick your head out into the line of fire. Fall back if your patient is pushing somewhere risky and you don't have an uber ready. Quit trying to fight people and just run if it looks like you're getting into combat.
>>739582308you have to be a little more selfish and focus on your survival more, if you see your healing target running to his death, you dont risk it and pick another target to heal, by putting yourself first you will heal more and most importantly, you will get more ubers which will actually move the objective forward
>finally get 100% über>signal pocket to Go Go Go!>drop heal on pocket as he jumps into the fray>kritz the bottom scoring sniper>pocket pissed >sniper apologizing in broken English from all the whiffsI love playing a careless god.
>>739579457>medi gun healing?>nah, crossbow sniping only
>>739582308you are playing wrong because... well, YOU are the main attacking/defending force in the fightYOU are the most important member of the team and should try to live as much as possible, fuck retards if they go around to die because they wanted to chase a scout into base or whatever
>>739583789you will never be team roomba
>>739582308It's Pikmin with guns. Order your burly men to sacrifice themselves for violence. Let them die. You can get more.
>>739584020I don't know who that/they is/are, but I'll probe you wrong someday.
>>739584115kek
>>739582308Medic shares the same problem as demoman where seeing enemy closing in = you die.Just abandon your teammates as soon as you see enemies are pushing.
>get assigned to heal with the guy with the radio voice>after the pull he whispers you "gj"
>>739583789When a medic kritz you as sniper the correct play is to whiff all your shots while running at the enemy so you can then get one melee kill and die.
>>739580350>crossbow bolt a scout just barely before he claims a medkit >+2 HP>flame him in chat for being a hogging little SCOUGGER as a soldier reaches and takes the medkit>conga over his corpse later in the match
Alright I'm hopping on TF2. What non matchmaking server should I play on for just classic fun?
>>739582873The hurting comes later.But you gotta build up to the hurting.An Uber that comes late is better than no Uber at all.
>>739585542I uber prematurely. My doctor says it's normal, though.
>>739580350all medkits on the map are rightfully mine
>>739585615"Pop it don't drop it"-Sun Tzu
>Use stock syringes one day just because i got a strange one for pennies>People will just walk at you and die cause theyre not used to fighting anything other than crossbow
>>739586183I carry around the Blutsauger for this reason. It sucks ass when I burn to death I guess but when S+M1 works and tops me up it's phenomenal.
>>739586183Using off-meta stuff is great. You can baffle niggas by excelling at pulling the dumbest stuff.Shotgun heavy is a great example. Everyone assumes that you're just a friendly-tier shitter but shotgun still has an excellent kill potential and you can basically 1v1 anything.
>>739586183>>739586265That is NOT FUCKING MEDICINE AHHHHHHHHHH
>>739584432you can't pick up medkits at full health
>healing faggot teammate>does nothing to defend me while healing him>get raped by enemy heavy
>>739586609Are you stupid?
Teufort Industries doesn't want you to know this, but theoretically, you're statistically better off Ubering a F2P, because they're more likely to go full retard and run blindly into an enemy sentry nest, destroying it in the process.Like turning a guy with Down Syndrome into a suicide bomber.They have no fear because they're aren't aware of the danger.
>>739586183based off meta chad
>>739586923It's true. I'd rather uber a clueless F2P pyro that by default rushes in the general direction of the objective 24/7, that the unusual wearing soldier main that retreats whenever his overheal runs out.
my favorite way to play scout is to pick a labyrinthine map and get behind an enemy with the fan o war. point blank mini crit scatter salvo jumpscare.
pocketing is retarded, if you're not managing crit heals you are wasting time and getting fewer ubers and letting your team downthis isn't even stuff you need to watch a guide on, its pretty easy to notice that your uber charge rate is slower when you're sucking one guy off vs keeping the team topped off
>>739586485People really underestimate the normal shotgun for some reason, even though the only thing separating it from Scout's obscenely strong Scattergun is just the Scattergun has better damage ramp-up at close range (same number of pellets fired, same damage per-pellet, same general spread, same ammo count and reload speed)
>>739584327>player gets a good frag or helps push>nice shot or/good work command>girl voice thanks me
I love pocketing heavies as a whip soldier
>>739587629The rocket jumper and the shotgun is shockingly good.Everyone expects you to go for the garden all of the time.
>play on Barnblitz on BLU>team can't get past 2nd point>notice the only medic using quickfix>"hey [medic] can you use default medigun? quickfix isn't that good for pushing narrow spaces">"ok bro">switches to spyWhy are they like this?
>>739580350
sometimes ill just run around with the boston basher taking all the med kits so no one else can have any
>>739586183Scouts get so fucking cocky when they see it kek same shit happens with the dragon's fury and they drop dead every time.
>>739583112>whenever i play medic i check for both who is top scoring on the team and who has the best K/D and try to prioritize healing them
>>739588416Nightmare inducing
>>739584331This
>>739579457The game encourages you to spread heals. You build Uber faster this way. That said, it is often times advisable to simply focus on keeping a few key players alive, especially during combat.
>Uber is ready>As soon as i uber demo/heavy/soldier, they switch to melee and get just one kill or none at all and then die as the enemy team gang up on usDoes anyone know what the fuck this trend is? Why do people do that? You got mininguns, rockets, bombs, shit tons of all powerful weapons and what do you do? Switch to shitty melee weapon. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you retarded?
>>739591398If a medic is gonna uber me as hybrid knight they did it to themselves. For heavy thats just sad though.
I am running über?I give them to the fresh install engiI am running kritz?I give them to the spyI am running vaccinator?I give them sniper having a duel with the enemy sniper
>>739582308>Which is to say that I die a lot.you need to keep your head on a swivel as medic. you need to be the most situationally aware on the team and there's no excuse not to be since you don't have to look at your patient to heal them.take advantage of the heal beam's range, stand as far back as possible. never peek sniper sightlines if you can avoid it. hug walls and scan your surroundings frequently so spies can't get the drop on you.look at your teammates and see what they're doing. do you have any players nearby who you think can protect you if you get chased? will they react if you call spy? are you at a numbers disadvantage? does it look like the frontline is about to collapsepositioning is hard to explain and is one of those things that takes time and experience to master. you want to be in a spot where flankers, bombing soldiers, and spies can't approach you without being noticed and you want to be on high ground if possibleif a scout wants to run at me he should have to cross open ground for several seconds. if a soldier wants to bomb me I should be far enough back he can't land on your head in just one jump and he can't start his rocket jump from cover. if a sniper peeks aggressively I want to have cover to immediately duck behind.obviously you can't play so passive that nobody is getting heals on the frontlines so it's a balancing act. this is where good movement skills come into play. I like to be right on the edge of rocket jump range so if I soldier bombs me he has to either hit a difficult direct or he has to shoot my feet so I can surf to safety.surfing is a very important skill to master as its your main form of defense against good players. use that knockback to get to cover faster and throw in air strafes to get even more speedfor everything else medic related. this is a good starter.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxroVLG_oXUthis guy does a lot of great medic videos and he goes into detail on specific topics in his other videos.
>>739588312>enemy med pops quickfix uber>delete him with a sticky/pipe combostop using this shitty medigun
>>739591832I will 100% kritz a gunspy if he is landing his shots.
>enemy team pops Uber>air blast medic away from pocketWell that was easy
>stock medigun isn't heal enough >switch to quickfix
>>739596946
>>739596946If you're the only one on the team who cared to go medic, it's usually the best option. Makes a huge difference to your team's ability to keep the pressure up to just have as many people as possible healed up and fighting, your 'ubers' come so quick they are expendable and you just fire them off whenever.
>>739597208you can achieve faster than quickfix healrates with frequent crossbow usage, the uber sucks at its intended purpose because it still has a flash penalty, it's the only medigun that cannot block a point, and halved overheal lowers your effective healrate even further and your power classes can't play as aggressively. there are only 3 situations where I would want to run quickfix>for fun if you're playing with a soldier friend who knows how to rocket jump>you need knockback immunity to get past a chokepoint (preferably with another uber)>you don't have ANY players on your team who can get value out of uber, they're eating a lot of damage, and you want to maintain numbers advantage
>>739597721>you don't have ANY players on your team who can get value out of uberIt is upsetting how frequently this occurs.
>>739597831they don't necessarily have to get kills to get value as long as the enemy team respects the uber enough to back up. however if your uber options are all using really shitty loadouts like your soldiers are on liberty launcher, your demos are all demoknights, your scout is using backscatter, etc they may just try to tank the uber. this is the only situation where quickfix can shine where you offset their individually low damage with numbers advantage. enemies will die EVENTUALLY if they're getting pelted by all these weapons at the same time.
when you pick a slave class you choose to not play the game and have fun so that OTHER people can play the game and have fun at your expensethe whole idea of "healer" and "support" needs to be abolished
>>739579457I do not need Medic to heal me i have banana.However, i will instead find you and kill you no matter where you are or who i am. I am trained since birth to fucking murder the shit out of medics fuck you!
>pick medic w/crossbow>outsnipe the enemy sniper>schadenfreude tauntYup its medic time.
Why is TF2 so fun even 20 years after?
>>739583942BASED
>see medic and heavy/demo waiting around a corner waiting to uber>backstab the medic before they can do anything
>>739598583Because it's almost a sandbox. Matches net an infinite number of possibilities and potential interactions.
>>739598583Because not one single multiplayer game has ever reached the level of enjoyment TF2 still allows for.
>2.5K hours in TF2>wear gibus on pyro>everyone starts walking at you expecting an easy kill>dragon's fury burst or flare punch them to death in the blink of an eye>they rage and seethe in chatI simply love this hat
>>739599065I consider it an ezmode cheatcode. People underestimate you and you get away with more shit
>>739591832My friend and I used to do the sniper meme on community servers to see how many times we could kill the other snipers with fully charged bodyshots until they complained to the admins, then we pretended to only speak spanish to see if they would ban us. Good times.
>>739586183I just find syringes more fun than crossbows.Also pic allows me to run away like a pussy the moment I take a point of damage.
>>739588312because you couldnt take your free heals like a good boy
>>739597721>you can achieve faster than quickfix healrates with frequent crossbow usagewhat makes you think you cant use the crossbow and qf at the same time?
>>739587573>getting fewer ubersthat's actually not true, crit heals grant less uber, since build rate is time based rather than amount healed based
>>739588312>Playing as Medic>Literally the only person on this team that's willing to do it>Team is retarded and keeps dying while I'm running around like a madman trying to keep everyone healed>Retard on my team sends me a message, telling me to switch to a meta build because they can't figure out any way to get past the 2nd point without an Uber>Doesn't even entertain the idea of switching to medic himself so someone else can help me with this job>"ok bro">I switch to Spy to piss him off>Team loses>Retard is probably blaming me for it
>>739599501Because the goal with quickfix is to maintain a numbers advantage ideally you should only be giving beam to players with crit heals and crossbowing everyone else but then the quickfix's other flaws become more apparent.>worse overheals inherently reduces the value of your crit heals and your teammates cannot protect you as effectively>you are encouraged to play more aggressively to save players taking the most damage right at the front>you can't give yourself godmode so sometimes you just die during an uber from burst damage or focus firestock uber is so strong it's almost always worth it to let players die than drop but with quickfix it's the opposite.you are forced to prioritize healing above all else because the uber is that fucking terrible.all these issues translates to slightly more deaths than stock and therefore more downtime where you're not healing.on average quickfix's healrate is very close to stock healrate. too close to justify the tradeoffs.
>>739598583Because 24 or 36 players match is really funFuck competitive mode
>>739599609in a 12v12 pub this rarely ever matters since you have plenty of heal targets. just swap to a different target once they're fully buffed.
I HAVE CHOSEN YOU TO BE THE SPEARHEADADAPT NOW OR FACE THE TEXTUAL AND POTENTIALLY VOICED WRATH OF MYSELF AND OUR TEAM
>>739599908I'd shit on you for not recognizing when an uber is actually needed but the quick-fix is too much fun.
>>739600113>36 players match
>>739597721Not everyone can reliably crossbow people, and by its nature its not as flexible, if you just miss and miss then suddenly keeping the healhose out seems like it would have been the better option
Vive la Vaccinator! Bane of shitters and faggotubers for over a decade!
>>739600325sure. quickfix is fine if you suck at crossbow but if you genuinely want to improve at medic you should rip off the bandaid and learn how to use it.
>>739600225>tfw playing on 32v32 class wars serverIt's very fun anon, you should try itEspecially when people are mic spamming music
>>739594110>>739597721the quick fix can be okay if there are multiple medics. you can take over the duties of healing critically wounded players without worrying about stunting your other medic's uber rate since you can't overheal players to the point where uber rate drops off.
>>739579457Whenever I play medic I give everyone a chance to get a sick killstreak with kritz. Demoknight, Battle Engy, Huntsman sniper, I dont care, I'm going to kritz you and you better go in there and get 5 kills.
>>739582308Medic is basically just playing Scout except you keep your healing beam on the guy who's getting the most kills.
>>739586923>because they're more likely to go full retard and run blindly into an enemy sentry nest, destroying it in the process.This but unironically. I fucking HATE floating an Uber/Kritz for a full minute fucking dying of old age waiting for the dumbcunt to run in, and worse is when i pop it and they RUN AWAY
>>739579457Over healing is such a cool mechanic. I miss it. >scout passing by>give him a heal boost so he won't die in one secondit just feels good
>>739598142I like being a little healslut though.
>>739598583Its actually very well designed. Look at the most popular maps like Upward, Badwater and Barnblitz. Like actually look at the terrain, the angles, the sightlines, the flanks, defensive spots everything. Shit is a masterclass in map design and other gamedevs completely forgot good map design.
>>739600531it's still terrible with multiple medics. vacc is hands down the best support medigun.>you can tank your stock med to guarantee he won't drop to anything but spy>you can shutdown the enemy sniper and make yours unkillable>you can pincer with another player from the flank while your stock med goes choke>you don't have to worry about impacting your stock med's uber rate
>>739582308as a medic your life is worth more than half your team combined. Run the fuck away at the smallest inconveniences and refuse to follow retards who can't even be bothered to look behind themselves. Doesn't mean that you won't heal and overhead them, however some teammates aren't worth giving your life away when you being dead means 25 seconds of no medic in your team.
>medic mains fighting over which healing stick is the best>they then proceed to use their optimal loadout to do nothing but die repeatedly>and then they get butthurt when you call them out for not being able to do their jobs
>>739600849obviously the vacinator is good, maybe too good. it feels like somewhat poor form to pull out in casual. i pull it out occasionally to counter particularly good snipers or demos, but that's pretty much it.
>>739601050every self proclaimed medic 'main' Ive ever met has been a shitter.the GOAT medics are the power class mains who swap off because no one else will.
>>739601050
>>739601117I wouldn't call myself a medic main, per se. But I do pick medic if the team needs one. It just happens that a lot of teams lack medics. Outside of that, I try to pick the class that the team has the least of. Shit, I'll play engineer if I need to. Someone has to make those teleporters.
>>739579457>healing?>not as rewarding as the hurting
>>739600442>a lot of players >some one played "take on me">everyone sing "taaaake oooooon meeeee"
>>739601050I try not to think too little of people who get upset. Medic can be an exasperating class to play. Sometimes it feels like you gave your team everything and they still lost. But that's just how it goes. Sometimes the enemy team is just better.
>buy a new medigun>Join a game of payload to level it>Team has a ton of medics already for some reason >Say fuck it and join them anyway to level my medigun>We win and end of the round scoreboard pops up>Turns out that everybody was pocketing big joey slap nuts and my dumbass never bothered to check the names or scoreboard I just switched my brain off and heal botted all matchThat was probably the last time I touched medic. I'm too embarrassed to ever play the class again even if it was on accident.
How do i do battle medic right?
you're a genuine nigger if you play medic and just heal one player (who you're probably jerking off over discord)
>>739601851Equip butt saucer, learn spacing, and back peddle.
>>739601554>playing on a server>one guy is playing music through his mic>not even loud, able to hear the game and other people talking just fine>everyone having fun>mod joins the game>instantly server mutes the guy>
>>739601863never understood this mentality. even if you are pocketing someone, buffing friendlies indirectly helps your pocket by making fights more lopsided and it only takes 2-3 seconds to buff someone when they're coming fresh from spawn. you might as well
>>739601851You don't. I still remember how everyone complained about useless dumbass battle meds back when blutsauger first dropped.
>>739579457It will never be implemented because Valve doesn't touch this game, but I really think that there should be some kind of indicator either for the players or for the medic that someone can receive crit heals. It would do wonders for healing efficiency.
>>739601851Use your medigun until you're in combat, then start shooting and ubersawing. If there aren't any enemies around or you think you can save someone from dying, go back to healing.You can also equip the Quick Fix for its self-healing during the uber. With every medigun you can swap them in and out while uber is running to shoot, but because the Quick Fix's uber is rapid healing it means you can heal to full several times in an engagement by swapping back and forth as needed.
>>739583942I've been on a few servers where Sniper was banned to see what it's likeThe rise of dedicated sharpshooter Medic is honestly fantastic
I really enjoy the tardwrangling aspect of playing Medic.When you've got a grip on the flow of the match, you can turn a pub team into a well-coordinated machine with minimal actual communication.Real ones will know.
>>739579457>Medics that pocket the enemy soldiers or heavy[PISS in the distance]
>>739602321It's not random, it's just whether they've gone 10 seconds without being hurt. Usually that means if you haven't personally seen them take damage they're probably going to get gigahealed.
>>739601851Walking backward and shootingDon't rush the enemy
>>739602470If you spread heals well and hit a few nice crossbows, they will be bowing at your feet by the end of the match. It feels nice, honestly.
>>739602524I understand the mechanic, and that method is reliable in a 6v6 where you only have 5 other players to keep track of, but if I'm in the thick of it with 11 other players, I'm not keeping a mental note of which timmy last took a grazing pistol bullet from a cross map enemy scout. Best I can really do is buff fresh spawners since I know for sure they'll have crit heals. It's not a big gripe or anything, it's just a matter of convenience. Realistically, it would save me a few seconds each game.
>>739602095>>739601863it's always furry avatars doing this
>>739582308The idea is that you should be healing the people on the frontlines and all the others get to run back to a dispenser or a health pack it is your job to gauge who should and shouldn't receive healing on how easily they can run back and how much they're contributing.Frontline niggas that are on the Priority.HeaviesSoldiers Demomenand PyrosThese are all the push classes of the game they are your protectors and holders.Classes that dont expressly need healing because they can handle themselves and escape unnecessary damage and conflicts.Scouts and SpiesClasses that DONT NEED YOU AT ALL if they need healing they are horrendously out of position or somehow getting hit.Sniper and Engineer Keep in mind though that everything is always in flux sometimes the frontliners can act like people that need to run for a healthpack and thats the dissertation you need to figure out
>>739602947I like to heal scouts because they have tiny baby mann health pools so it only takes a moment to fill up. Good scouts will also go nuts with an overheal compared to their standard HP. Definitely switch off them once they're full, though.
>>739603058Good Scouts also know that they can simply run towards a healthpack, same thing with spies.
>>739602573>they will be bowing at your feet by the end of the match>medicfags actually believe thisI can't remember the last time I ever thanked a Medic player.
>>739603110A healthpack won't give them overheal
>>739603137>I personally don't do it, so it never happensIf only that were true of many things.
>>739603137>t. demo
>>739603212overhealing scouts is a massive waste of time. if you're that adamant just cross bow them.
>>739603137You either have never played Medic or are dogshit at him, and that's alright.
>>739603110Healthkits are wasted on scouts. 60hp vs a soldier getting 100 or a heavy getting 150. On average scout's hp goes the furthest being so hard to hit and lower max health means his overheal hp decays slower. I always try to buff scouts whenever I have time to do so.
>>739584020COUPONBUG DOT COMCOUPONBUG DOT COMCOUPONBUG DOT COM
>>739603429which is why I said you crossbow them. Again wasting your effort on healing people running away from the frontlines is not the way to do things.
>>739603110>Good Scouts also know that they can simply run towards a healthpack
>>739603572Crossbow doesn't give overheal and scout is one of the best classes to overheal. If he is making it difficult then fine but if he is waiting patiently and I have a second to buff him so he can go terrorize the enemy backline or stuff a soldier trying to bomb me I absolutely will
>>739603346>I DIDN'T NEED YER HELP, YA KNOW!
>>739603572Consider this:In the best case (crit heals available) it takes almost exactly one second to grant a Scout at full HP a 150% overheal.Let us assume a ten second respawn timer for the enemy team.If the Scout converts that overheal into an additional kill just 10% of the time, you're still getting a 1:1 return on investment in the time economy alone, not even factoring in the momentum loss from the enemy team being down a player or the time they'll definitely spend getting back to the fight after respawn.Obviously this optimal situation is not always the case, but hard-and-fast rules do not a good Medic make.To address the broader point in >>739602947The player that you should be healing is the player that can convert said healing into dead enemies or won objectives as efficiently as possible, given the current situation.Sometimes that's an Engineer tanking his Sentry. Sometimes your Sniper, losing his duel. Sometimes, yeah, it is just a milieu of power classes holding an area while the team prepares for a push.In truth, the idea of a a "frontline" or "frontline class" is an illusion. There are only players and classes, with situational strengths and weaknesses. Ubering a Spy to take out a Sentry nest is a valid and occasionally, optimal, choice.Your strength, as the Medic, is turning your time and attention into much greater efficacy for others. Don't hinder this strength by letting good-enough heuristics control your play.
>>739583789one time a medic did that to me as an engineeri whipped out my widowmakerthat was funny as fuck
>>739579457Thanks Doc!
>>739598142At the end of the day the Medic is just not very good game design. Making him powerful just makes him a janitor
>>739579457I heal everyone but if someone is a cunt I ignore them/laugh taunt. Fucking faggots, screaming insults and demanding to be healed over anyone else means I'm not doing shit for you.
Medic? Who needs medics?
>>739579457Genuine question, what are the right situations to use each medi gun? I usually just run kritz but that's mostly because I can't tell when to switch off, so I usually just don't, but I wanna
>>739608514protip: buildings don't take critical damageso if you need to destroy nests, you need to switch to stock or you're wasting your time
>>739608514>Medi-gun - Use it whenever you want, it's the most versatile and most powerful one. If you are dying a lot, perhaps consider switching.>Kritz - Use when you have a skillful player whom you know can make good use of the crits.>Quick fix - Try to stay away from this one unless you are really good at quick fix jumping with a skilled soldier or demo.>Vaccinator - Use if you or your teammates are being owned by a few very skilled damage classes on the enemy team. Think snipers, demos, soldiers. Also good as a quick counterpick to Kritz if you don't have time to build an uber.
you should have to aim the medi gun
>>739608514>quick fixalways, switch healing targets more often if you disagree
>>739586923there's few things that hurt more than ubering a pyro and seeing him fuck around with weapon swaps. even the degreaser can easily ass rape a crowd when the holder is invulnerable and doesn't get knocked back, just burn them all at once instead of whipping out a single target weapon you retarded gimp.
i was once playing on harvest against a retard who was claiming that phlog was with most reddit takes such as>muh crits>it annoys ppl>it doesn't takes skill>you can't airblastand yada-yada. this continued for three consecutive games. this retard was not playing at all
>>739596946>>739597015What is this phenotype called?
>>739603137I look like this and I say this.>>739603346And I play this.
>>739609078Ubermensch
>>739608957the phlog is shit, but that's exactly why I'm happy to see pyros using it. a pyro that can't reflect my rockets is just another pile of gibs to me lmao. so i say let the phlog users use it. more power to them
>>739609583>the phlog is shit, but that's exactly why I'm happy to see pyros using it. a pyro that can't reflect my rockets is just another pile of gibs to me lmao. so i say let the phlog users use it. more power to them
>>739609583How does it feel BEEG SOLDIER MAN to be so scared of EETY BEETY STOOPID and GAY Pyro that you PRAY they have STOOPID WEAPON?I SHIITI KILLis no matter to me who they are because they are already DEAD
>>739579457Back when sniperbots were common, I always picked vaccinator and pocketed sniperbots for free infinite seethe.
Lazypurple will never release the video
>>739601280I find it fascinating that an entire team of people would much rather run from base to the other side of the map, giving the enemy team that much time to cover lost ground, than to switch to Engineer.
>>739609794you mock, but that is literally my face when. you are absolutely correct
>>739580350Fucking kek
>>739611669>you mock, but that is literally my face when. you are absolutely correct
>>739579457>We already have a Medic?>That's OK, I'll just use a different Medigun from what he's using for Ubercharge variety.
I will never forget that time I ubered an Engie and he jumped in front of his sentry and protected it from enemy attacks while repairing itI didn't get any points for that, but what I did get was an unforgettable memory
>>739579457>See Scout coming injured>Don't heal him right away as other teammates are under fire and I wait for his healing rate to increase>He gets madWhy are they like this?
>syringe guns can now heal teammates >if hit, heal 1 healthGood or no?
>>739598262>Yet another soldier with his butt-buddy medic stuffing a kritz beam.up his ass.>No medics running vacc or solly's running Battalion's. >Idiots always get surprised by funny glowing tube and get wiped away in an instant.I wish infinite pain upon all soldier mains.
soldiermains are unbelievably sassy. they are on some insane mesugaki level of brattiness...and this thought makes me hard...
>>739582873>healing is not as rewarding as the hurtingWhile I agree with this statement, I must say the only game I enjoy playing as a healer is TF2.Every other game sucks being the healer.Something pretty fun - and rare - is pocketing using Quick-fix a skilled Demonknight.
>>739579457>cloak goes down by 1%>steal every ammo box lying aroundTHIS IS SCOUT. RAINBOWS MAKE ME CRY
>>739614291>Spy steals ammo boxes for his cloak.>Scout steals health packs for his health.They were father and son from Day 1, 2007.
>>739614291That actually sounds like a pretty valid strategy to fuck over hard-to-kill engineers who still need to set up
>>739614494Too bad it doesn't work on last where engie is the most obnoxious.
>>739584115>Being a healer is tard wranglin pikmin with guns.At last i understand why so many healers power trip
>>739579457Charging up Kritzkrieg then unleashing some Soldier onto the world to give him a 10 kill streak is the only way to have fun with this class
>>739582308You should be playing like a pussy and building uber. Then you pop uber and try to get something out of it.
>>739615416>swap to kritz for shits and giggles>my pocket is spamming rockets with an empty clip>keep telling him in chat to back up and reload>finally gets the hint after half a minute>mid reload blue ubers into us and we diethis happens every goddamn time
For me, it's the quick fix.I would just stay mostly in the back and heal anyone who needed it or didn't have overheal. That allows most of my team to stay in fights longer and get back into the fight quicker and therefore keeps more pressure on the enemy
>>739579457Why is Medic still one of the best designed Support characters compared to other contemporary team games with TF2 DNA in them?They either range between>Comically overpoweredor>Braindead boring healbot
>>739616524>medic>not comically overpowered
>>739616524Medic is both of those though
why does medic use syringe gun or crossbow?just give him SMG or shotgun or shoot bird
>>739616524Unpopular opinion but Paladins Supports blow every other games Supports out of the fucking water.
Most medics that you play with are astonishingly bad at the game. It's the easiest class too idgi
>>739616739I would prefer medic have a shotgun as his base primary and they nerfed his healrate.
>>739616837I love that blue goblin
>>739616739The problem with giving medic a proper firearm is that you're giving it to a character who has 150 health, faster-than-average movement speed, passive health regen, and (depending on his medigun) the ability to give himself invulnerability or boosted health regen + knockback immunity. Team Fortress 2 Classified formerly Classic at one point gave Medic the stock shotgun as a choice of primary weapon, but had to take it away because it was overpowering, and resulted in battle medics playing the game like Quake instead of healing.
>>739613112That sounds funny as fuck
>>739616956you could probably nerf medic's hp to 125 and it wouldn't be a big deal. anything to make this class less boring to play. battle medics being useless isn't any different than having a demoknight or trolldier or 3 spies on your team.
>>739616952https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/paladins_gamepedia/images/d/da/Grohk_SP_Ability1_1.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20170223212547
>>739601117true and obvious. most retards underestimate how much experience in other classes impact one's ability to play medic well
>>739609078Juden Hound
>>739617665This is true for a lot of classes, actually.
>>739616943It's an easy class in terms of mechanics but as a Medic you're always the biggest target for the enemy team, and with very few offensive tools you need to rely on very good positioning, timing and general gamesense to survive. It doesn't help that often your teammates are completely worthless and will completely ignore you and fail to turn around even while you're actively getting raped by flankers. Most Medics who are bad are so because they still haven't realized that their teammates are simply weapons to be discarded when they're no longer useful and that your own survival is the most important thing in the match.
>>739618276of course
I want to thank whoever told me to use a config in the last thread. The difference is actually insane. My aim is the same but my shots actually connect now and it ACTUALLY feels like I'm shooting where I'm aiming when and shooting when I'm shooting. Tried heavy for the fuck of it and actually got accused of cheating for the first time, by my OWN teammate too kek
IM GOING TO SAW THROUGH YOUR - MEEEEEDICCCCC
>>739579457https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMwVwZxWTTY
Feed your medics
>>739611103he won't do it since the better version existshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07oKaWzJ13Q
>>739618549what config?
>kritz soldier>he pulls out his melee
>>739598583every fucking other game has like 2000 mechanics you have to get a PHD in to understand the game
>>739619252>krit a Demo>he misses every bomb>pulls ham>goes ham and kills 5 people
>>739619672>types "ham" into chat afterwards.
>>739598583no ults or cooldown bullshit. just classic shootinalso the devs intentionally made a majority of the weapons semiautomatic so you alot of that shoot/reward dopamine with demoman, soldier, scout, ect.
>>739619252>uber pyro>he just run awayWhy
>>739619252>med kritzes me>0/4>0/8FUCK OFF
>>739619187https://comfig.app/app/usded this to generate one, mostly talking about the network settings
>>739599248>I just find syringes more fun than crossbows.nothing compares to spamming a bolt and getting a 200 damage crit kill across the map
imagine posting gigachad cartoons unironically in 2026
yesterday I spent multiple hours writing a scripting framework for hot-swappable keybindssometimes I enjoy scripting more than actually playing the game
>>739621779Crossbows are great for spamming busy chokes from a distance. Every hit is almost guaranteed to hit either a team mate and heal them or an enemy and chip or kill them.
>>739580397Just played a match and can't unhear this now
>Having fun'retard nigger' votes to disable random critsvote passes crits disabled>Having less fun..'retard nigger' votes to disable crits on cap>Why do we have to play the game his way'retard nigger' votes to remove player for racism
>>739623337>retard nigger' votes to disable random critsShould've told him to fuck off back to uncletopia then
>>739616524the thing is with medic is that hes the ONLY one of his kind to do any kind of dedicated healing the only other game that did supports right where healing was kept at a minimal so fights didnt become slogfests is a game that no longer is playable by traditional means, you see the issue with supports in these vestiges of TF2 coded games is that THERE ARE TOO MANY of them infact overwatch is explicitly to blame for this dogshit game design that still plagues the space because support means more then just healing and it is overwatches fault for basically destroying the Class based team shooter with shit balancing decisions, its the same thing with heavy except its even worse because heavy only has a little more health comparatively to the other classes but in other games they make thier fucking big boys a joke by stacking health on them and then making them do NO damage which is the complete opposite of what heavy does.
>>739579457>Enemy team has uber?>M2M2M2M2M2M2>bone cracking sound
>>739580062fuckin love the amputatorjust lurk around a corner so i dont get hit while everyone nearby gets a little free healing
>Z2+Taunt after critting a cocky scout.
>put in game with tranny>9 times out of 10 he's playing scoutwhy is this?
>>739626584Usually they're either medic or pyro.
>>739580350I always hear about you faggot medics bitching someone stole your medkit.No one listens to me as engi about not taking the metal drops. Oh man, do you only have 132 ammo as Pyro? Oh God, your rocket as Soldier only has 15 rockets left??? Oh God no, guess you can take the 200 metal drop and prevent me from making a dispenser for another 30 seconds that would heal AND resupply you all, perpetually.Fucking retards never pay attention to the metal.
>>739583942>every fucking medic that has this spams it like they're going to 360 no scope the rocket jumping solider across the map>they don't even have the aim to hit me, a heavy, strafing 3 inches in front of themI fucking hate this thing. Not because it's bad, because it isn't. It's great. The issue is it's incredibly situational and every other medic thinks it replaces the medigun.
>have uber>3 teammates near me>choose one>hit go go go command>they dont push>choose another one>same>choose the third>he pushes>uber>beefs all shots, kills nothing>2 other teammates dont take advantage of the uber push to provide backupId rather die to a backstab with full uber than have this happen anymore.
>>739626584Kick him, accuse him of scamming.
>>739626631medic/pyro are the faggot stereotypes but in my experience it's always scouts
>>739626631Soldier or pyro.Two biggest fagmagnets in the game.
>>739608514>StockIt's the standard for a reason>KritzYou're trading raw efficacy for one player going on a power trip. Probably the most niche>VaccMore like the Kritz in that you are paying a heal tax for your niche, this one is a bit more useful though. If the lobby is being raped by one player, or the enemy team is like 50% Soldier, consider switching>Quick Fix If you are literally the only medic in a 12 player lobby, that has like 8 soldiers/pyros/demos consider switching to this, since you will overall heal a lot more. But, you have to commit to the playstyle, you cannot pocket with this. You are a heal slut, not a heal wife. Your Uber sucks, use it liberally.
I don't actively play TF2 anymore but I fucking love Medic. Always loved busting out the vaccinator against snipers and seeing them bitch and moan in the chat.
>>739608514For me it's:>Stock: Good on offense for breaking through defenses.>Kritzkrieg: Good on defense for stopping pushes, and because Engineers on offense are both rarer and usually use the Gunslinger.>Quick Fix: Good if there's already another medic using any of the above; like the previous anon said, you're generally just healing every teammate you see, and you generally use the ubercharge if you need to heal a LOT of people very quickly in the aftermath of an enemy push.>Vaccinator: Good if the enemy team is stacking classes of a certain damage type, especially Pyros; otherwise, best used if another medic is using the first two mediguns.
MeeM!
is quick fix + amputator throwing?I just wanna keep everyone alive
>>739629869YeahThe Vacc isn't usually my best or favorite medigun, but on the circumstance when I do use it, it's almost always the most fun
>>739600756>Look at the most popular maps like Upward, Badwater and Barnblitz.PayloadCHADS keep this game alive. 2trannies need not apply.
>>739633316Payload is so boring.Harvest is where tf2 is played2Fort is where it's memed
>>739632523I think throwing as a medic more comes down to playstyle than loadout. Pocketing with the quick fix, maybe?Crossbow and Ubersaw have been firmly glued into the meta since fucking forever, but I don't think you're necessarily throwing by not picking them. As Medic, your main job is secure a time and resource advantage over the enemy, and spearhead pushes, so as long as you are refilling hp bars, and using ubers decently well, you're not throwing. If you're picking Medic to skinny heavy with a syringe gun, maybe you're throwing. Unless you're good enough, I guess. I'm honestly not sure whether Medic or Sniper is better at skinny heavy to be honest. I assume Medic, because Medic can pretend he has a sandvich in his moments of lucidity, while Sniper can only piss.
>>739600442>defending team is engineers>attacking team is demos>blu gets cocky>one guy starts spamming short circuit, shuts down entire hallway of enemy demos>now everyone is spamming short circuit>nobody ever runs out because there's 30 dispensers on the map
>>739633651Ubersaw is overrated. Solemn Vow is best in slot if you are trying to play medic properly.
>>739633675ThenFrom over the hillCame the sound of 32 demoknights revving up their engines>WITNESS ME LADSsaid one Demoknight at the front of the pack, as the sentries began firing at him, in such a deep slur not even the other demoknights could make it out
>>739635107Solemn Vow is only best if you have competent teammates that you can communicate with. Otherwise it's eh.
>>739635192Not true. Seeing enemy med's uber % and enemy health is valuable even if you don't communicate. It gives you a better idea how aggressively you can position yourself and which team is more likely to win a team fight which helps you die less. You can get free kills off crossbow too whenever you see an enemy in the distance who's below 75hp. Compare that with ubersaw which only gives value if you melee an enemy which is something you should avoid doing at all costs if you are trying to not drop. It forms bad habits. Even as a melee weapon solemn vow is better since you know how healthy your attacker is. Ubersaw's value drops further on any medigun that isn't stock since their uber is inherently less valuable.
>>739582308>Be an egoistYou are literally the most important man on the team, you decide when to push, you increase the teamwide health regen from 150 hp every 15 seconds from a pair of shitty packs to thousands of hp. Everyone else is expendable, abandon retards, throw overextenders under the bus, keep your uber up by any means necessary>Overheal everyoneOverheal is busted. Always overheal reinforcements before they arrive to the front, 80 hp on a demo means he can tank the first rocket and still be on full hp>Crossbow spamCrossbow literally more than doubles your healrate as well as extends your heal reach to anywhere within line of sight. It is incredibly busted and allows you to keep heavies alive under focus fire by five people>BlutsaugerWhen your team is exceptionally retarded against spies, grab the syringe gun. It has a dps of 120, so like a flamethrower, and reliably allows you to clean up spies and the occasional scout negroid, but you need to learn to aim the thing >Other medsAlways overheal other meds, allows you to tank a shit tone more things. And if you keep him alive for 1 minute, you get a second uber, so very strong
>kill 3 people in front of enemy Medic>instead of running away he pulls out his melee and kills me with a random critNever get too close to Medics.
How do I stop holding my uber for like 2 full minutes? I keep beaming somebody and yelling GO but it takes forever to find somebody who actually gets the message and I usually just keep fucking around until I eventually drag somebody at the enemy with me whether they like it or not.
>>739635886>not being able to just eyeball enemy uber ratesBuddy if you're already into the uber counting autism you actually don't have any real use for the solemn vow.And besides, it's casual. You're always at a risk of enemy med getting +50% free uber off of your spy and all that vital knowledge you just had is suddenly outdated and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.Ubersaw is the king of OP weapons, it always was, and it always will be. If you want people to stop using it you should try to start a movement to get ubersaw nerfed(it will never happen by the way, 95% of medic mains would throw a bigger tantrum that demo mains did that one time). Not share dumb takes about underperforming weapons.
>>739608514>stockTeammates understand the basic concept of retreating when enemies are pushing when your uber meter isn't filled yet>kritzUber builds up so fast that you can spam it even if it ends up being a fluke>Quick-Fixmaintaining stalemate if both teams are too chickenshit to push>Vacceffectiveness inversely scales with server player count
>>739616524I'd say TF2 in general has much better design than modern team games. Most of this I think comes down to the other team shooters not actually having any real TF2 DNA in them. Team Fortress was cut from the cloth of Quake, and everything about it's design was built from the foundation of the arena shooter. Competitive play was also not a high priority. The original TF Quake mod was created with the intent to make arena shooters more accessible by giving players specific roles they could focus on and lowering the skill floor. TF2 continues to echo this with it's many mechanics that create incidental team-play rather than expecting players to co-ordinate.Other modern team shooters take more inspiration from Counter Strike and MOBAs. They are usually 5 v 5 or 6 v 6 with an e-sports like design built around requiring teams to co-ordinate properly. You see a lot of the MOBA elements come in in the form of hotkey bars for recharging abilities and those 3 lane map designs. They're more focused on the meta aspects than the moment to moment action. I think the only thing games like Overwatch take from TF2 is the stylized character design, though even this is closer to MOBAs now.
>>739636845If your heals are on point players tend to start gravitating around you. If you want your team to play aggressively you need to position aggressively and they will eventually follow. This doesn't mean you have to jump into the enemy team but you want to be in position to deny the enemy team map control with your uber when they start to push. Same idea on attack. Position wherever you want your team to go. If you're doing your job properly you will gradually take ground with your buffed teammates and you pop your uber either when you're close enough to uber right on top of their hold with a power class or when you see an opportunity to gain momentum by ubering multiple players at once as they push in. Keep in mind the enemy med's rough uber % so you aren't caught off guard by a counter pop.
>>739636845Uber a pyro. They always run forward.
>>739629869I wish I had the attention span to use that thing. I hate a fucking Sniper player more than anything and there is little to no counter play to them in TF2.
>>739632523It depends on the context of the match. Keeping everyone alive is always beneficial but if your team needs an uber to break the stalemate then you need an uber.
>>739638247Just respect the sightlines chud
>>739638512Lay mao.
>>739632523Outside of dustbowl you're almost never getting amputator value and that's all it has going for it. Quickfix is easily the worst medigun. Not throwing but definitely suboptimal.
>>739638613that's less of a sniper issue and more of a shitty map design issue
>>739638701That is still inherently a Sniper issue.
>>739636845Pop it or drop it
>>739636845Apart from just telling them in voice chat to go, there's not much you can do. You can try and pop it anyways to see if they'll suddenly get the memo and push but even that's a gamble. You'd think >>739638118this would work but most Pyros I uber just suddenly stand in place like their brains turn off. I've also had this issue with Demos where I'll pop kritz on them and they'll just switch to their pipes and miss every shot instead of their sticky launcher for whatever reason.
As a medic main isn't demoknight just the worst pocket?
>>739582308>Heal priority/triageHeal anyone who's about to die. See a begging soldier with 5 hp in the rear and a sniper with 70 hp running out of the choke with a pyro on his ass? Heal the sniper, or better yet shoot the soldier with the crossbow and go for the sniper. The soldier can go find a pack. See a scunt with 10 hp on fire when you're about to uber? Heal the dumbass to 40-60 hp and uber your target, the scunt will have to get heals elsewhere. See an engie under fire? Stop pocketing and tank the guy, the sentry will save you later>Crit healsCrit heals are incredibly important. You get them on fresh respawns and on guys who've been in the rear for a bit, so snipers, engies, sollies waiting for healthpacks, people retreating to the cart. You get 72-108 hp/s when they're on, so a full overheal takes a second give or take, and overheal is very strong.>Uber choiceStock for decent teams on attack since it doesn't increase your survivability and is the slowestKritz for underpowered teams on attack, on defense usually or if their team has a good med, if you have a good powerclass or an f2p heavy. In rare occasions, when your team is so shit that you get to live less than 40 s, it's the only uber you can ever get, so grab it.Quick fix for fooling around and for playing without crossbow. The uber is basically a large medpack for everyone present and is both weak and cheap, so pop when you see 4 people about to die, for example after a choke fightVacc is shit (not really but kinda). It's the pocket shitter's medigun - no overheal, no teamplay, no choke-busting capability in exchange for ultimate pocket survival. It's very strong with a good pocket but useless against a coordinated team, so I never use it>MovementCover, cover, always cover, always watch the flanks, always run away from even a hint of danger. You get only 5-7 chances to get an uber in a match, and if you squander them, you lose. Learn to rocket surf, to monitor enemy respawns, to dodge etc.
>>739639095Spy is the worst pocket. Demoknight still has his busted ass charge n targe that allows him to just w+m1 like a tard until someone dies as long as you're not pocketing him to deal with a nest.
>>739639180>See a begging soldier with 5 hp in the rear and a sniper with 70 hp running out of the choke with a pyro on his ass?NTA but I just wanted to point out that you should also make sure your Beggar's Soldier is overhealed because if he's actually practiced with the weapon, he can be a monster that just jumps into the enemy backline and lets loose and that overheal really really helps them cause chaos.t. Beggars enjoyer
>>739639095They're a good flash target for running in and causing chaos but I would never solo uber them in any situation.
>>739639202Spy is a great pocket in mvm
>>739639017>I've also had this issue with Demos where I'll pop kritz on them and they'll just switch to their pipes and miss every shot instead of their sticky launcher for whatever reason.To be fair, kritz is more often a fluke than not because even the most clueless enemies will suddenly gain 50 IQ and start dodging.
>>739639202>>739639438It's just their tendency to jump head first into dangerhow they keep running away how easy it is to counter. I mean scotland forever and all but they would be helping so much more as a regular demo
>>739639723I've had it happen with uber too so it's not inherently a kritz issue. Kritz is just harder to fuck up with a sticky Demo.
>>739638774No? You could just not have ways of shooting people in their fucking spawn room. I don't know of any other maps with this problem.
>>739639781>I mean scotland forever and all but they would be helping so much more as a regular demoOh yeah definitely but the point is that Demoknight is not necessarily the worst to pocket in the game, Spy is. Even Scout has uses as a pocket and even an uber target occasionally.
>>739639808Brother, if your entire team is being pushed back to spawn in the first place by the class then it's inherently an issue with said class. The fact that he can just shoot through spawn on that one map doesn't change the issue as I said prior.
>>739639785Stock uber is guaranteed value even with dogshit teammates, you just have to get creative with it. Kritz is not. Good soldiers/scouts will kamikaze into you when they see kritz and good medics will start holding their ubers to counter yours if you don't get the med pick.
>>739639854I would rather pocket a gunspy than a demoknight t b h.
>>739639943>if your entire team is being pushed back to spawn in the first place by the classThat's a completely different scenario we were not talking about. Sniper killing people instantly is a whole other thing, that webm is showing him killing people in spawn like that's somehow a flaw in the class' design and not the map's.
>>739600146THEY SHOULD CALL YOU HHHWINERS DOCTOR NOOOOOOOOOO
>>739639180>heal the sn*perDogshit advice, a trve gamer with guts in his belly is HONORBOUND to NEVER heal a sn*perp.s. you are also supposed to let the spy/flank jumper kill the sn*per before you engage them
>>739640221I wouldn't because they're just going to DR and leave you to get demolished.
Does anyone still play TF2?
>>739640302>That's a completely different scenarioThat is literally the scenario happening in the clip, the fuck are you smoking when you're saying we're not talking about it? YOU might not be. Do you think their Medic just has vax equipped and sitting in spawn for shits and giggles?
>>739640338And a demoknight won't charge away from you?
>>739611547>enemy spy cloaks near the spawn to sap teleporters>no amount of eureka effect-fueled kills will dissuade him from this mission>have to play teleporter bitch for the whole match
I've never played TF2 because I was in a collage that didn't allow students to have internet in their dorms when it came out. I've been told it isn't worth playing anymore due to bots, etc. Is it too late to join up and enjoy the game?
>>739640639Bots have been gone for years
>>739640434If your team is being kept in spawn by a couple snipers (that aren't bots), they were never going to win. I didn't even consider that they were somehow having that issue because I cannot recall ever having it myself in 2,746.9 hours of TF2.
>>739640639Bots are gone bruv.Right now the biggest problem the game has are the idiotic 5 minute wait times between matches, it's why everyone immediately leaves any server to requeue after winning/losing.
do you guys seriously play casual? fucking why, even uncle fag's servers are better
>>739638774>just bend over backwards to try to design maps where sniper won't be an overbearing piece of shitEntire maps have been ruined because of a good sniper sightline. It requires far more effort in mapmaking than what one class should necessitate. You also have to balance a moving respawn point because now people will be even more pissed if dying sets you back a 30 second walk because you got popped instantly when you rounded a corner. >but chokes are another issueChokes often have multiple routes around them, and can be pushed through with overheals and ubers. They both promote teamplay and also reward flanks, Choke spamming also requires you to actually be stuck there spamming and then reloading, whereas a sniper can just maintain full charge and wait for someone to show up. You can see when a choke is being spammed and when it's not, you can't ever tell ahead of time if a sniper will be watching that sightline (he will) and even if he just took a shot, he can instantly kill half the classes with an uncharged headshot.
>>739640835I'll play anywhere that I don't have to be around you or people like you.
>>739640835I am banned on most servers
>>739640835>trannytopiano thanks. there are no good community servers.
>>739579457KA-CHUNK>>739582308do thisKA-CHUNK
>>739640835I just play on a 24/7 2fort server, dogshit as it is with faggy mods, RTD and a fuckass 64 player limit that causes the place to lag out every five minutes.
>>739640547If you use quickfix he won't.
>>739640835I want to play team fortress 2 on a variety of maps with normal settings.I don't want to play 24/7 dustbowl/2fort/badwater 32 player instant respawn.I don't want to play all crits low grav x1000.And I DEFINITELY don't want to play deathrun, jailbreak, prophunt, or whatever other fuckass not-tf2 gamemode you play.
>>739609078Mature Chud
*ksss-ksssh*
>>739640762>they were never going to win.Well yeah because the most busted class in the game is keeping them in spawn.
>>739638701>>739638512>>739638247>little to no counter>just respect the sightlines, chud >this is a map issue>if you're team is being kept in spawnNo thanks, I'm going to go vaxxinator and make your entire team quit.
>>739641103>SURPRISE>BUTTSECCS
>>739641103
mmmmph! hudda mpph mph!>"oh but my teammates will protect me!"mm mpph mpph, mmph hudda mphh.
>>739641007>24/7 2fortbased
>>739641113You still have down time in between vax ubers and the Sniper's down time is like 0.25 seconds in between shots.
>>739600192>I'd shit on you for not recognizing when an uber is actually needed If you have the quick fix, multiple people can rush a sentry nest and kill it.
FINE I AM REDOWNLOADING TF2 AND REMAKING MY COMFIG FILE
>>739608514>Basic Good for pushing chokes/clearing sentry nests. On a good team you're the beacon around which everyone pushes. On a bad team you run in, do a smidge of damage, and no one follows up.>Quick FixGood mainly on defense if you're the only medic. Keeping everyone alive in defense matters more than invulnerability, and the Uber comes up quickly so you can use it without too much worry. This is realistically only good if you only have 1 medic, which you shouldn't.>KritzI'd again use this mainly on defense, and only as a supplement to any other. It's good for clearing out pushes, and dunking on waves of enemies. On offense it's ok, but it shouldn't be the only one you have since sentries don't take xrit damage.>Vacc Situational. If their team has a couple pesky snipers, or is primarily outputting one type of damage, it can be incredibly useful. If this is your sole medigun then that's a problem though.
>>739600325>Not everyone can reliably crossbow people, Then they should practice more with the crossbow because quickie crossbow switches on teammates out of range of the heal hose is literally the difference between an OK medic and a good medic
>>739641490Don't, you'll play ten minutes, remember the game is a hat-filled mess, and quit again. Like you always do
>>739639943this is like a map having an open roof in the spawn room a demo can just lob pipes and stickies into and going 'man, demo is really overpowered!'
>>739641656Yeah you're right but I've already began to redownload it. At least I enjoy playing Medic because I don't need to aim
>>739641048Charging into certain death isn't any better
>>739641451>You still have down time in between vax ubers lolthat funny joke BBRRRRRRRRTTTTTT
>>739641676That is no where close to the same thing.
>>739641850You're right, at least if a demo is lobbing stickies you can shoot them before he detonates or use a pyro to airblast them away.
There is no reason to use anything but stock 99.99% of the time.
>>739611547BUT BRO THINK OF MY K/D!!!
>>739641928stock medigun*
I have made more people rage on voice chat with the vaccinator than I ever have with literally any other weapon in the game, that includes the sticky launcher, the icicle, the kunai, the rescue ranger, the dead ringer, the flamethrower, any flaregun, any sniper rifle, any rocket launcher. Pull out the vaccinator and suddenly people's amazing defense and super cool story bro gameplay stops working and that's when the anger gets out "wah wah you're trash how dare you use the ez mode" music to my ears
>>739597721i top the leaderboard every game as quick fix medic and win majority of games with it, in pubs the tempo a quick fix provides far outweighs the NOWS MY CHANCE stock medigunif i'm playing with 2 or 3 friends i MIGHT go stock or just use it to push one nightmare point but quick fix stomps in pubsworks on my machine
You may not think it's meta, but this is peak Medic performance.
>>739642946I like running the Overdose with the Vaccinator better because you get the speed buff significantly quicker.
>>739642863>i top the leaderboard every game as quick fix medicthis means literally nothing. you should be topping the leaderboard with any medic loadout. quickfix is the worst medigun but it's still a medigun.>in pubs the tempo a quick fix provides far outweighs the NOWS MY CHANCE stock mediguncan't consistently push with quickfix uber because you're still vulnerable to focus fire, burst damage, random crits.can't use it to mitigate damage because it still has a flash penalty and doesn't linger for a second like stock uber does.
>>739637656ThisA lot of modern hero shooter design is trying to force characters into roles, and force specific playstyles within those roles, that end up making the game pretty narrow in terms of how you can actually play it, and frequently results in characters that feel bad because there's an obvious hole in their gameplan that exists because this character is a DPS, not a Tank or what have you.Wheras, the characters in TF2 are, barring engi and medic, pretty much universally designed as being functional generalists with things they excel in, but tons of fringe applications that make each individual character a more well rounded experience. In TF2 you can play your Soldier or Pyro like a support, a Tank, or a DPS, and that's just not allowed in something trying to force roles. The result is part you end up needing like 30 characters so you can properly assign them roles for team build, you have to separate Black Box Soldier from Batallion's Backup Soldier, because otherwise your DPS class is now a Support for team build, instead of a DPS woth support applications, that thus all feel a little bad to play, because you're SUPPOSED to be working with a team, which mostly just means it feels bad unless you're winning. There's a lot less individual expression in those games, and a lot less finding what works for you and just rolling with it. Even worse, because these things are always balanced as entire platforms, nerfing the Black Box means nerfing the entire pre-packaged "Soldier with Black Box" character, you frequently end up in patch limbo where certain characters are just never good, because they're out of alignment with their assigned role, can never be good in that role, and thus can never be played because the game says you need a Tank.
>>739582308I've never played TF2 and I'm sad I missed out
>>739643782nah, they hate to hear it be said but quick fix heals more than the stock so in pubs it's better - each kill you get becomes more unsurmountable for the enemy to deal with and each death matters less in the 16v16 scheme of things if you're just straight up pushing out more healingquick fix = more healing = better medigun, it really is that simple
>>739644178The game is still there. People still play it. You can still play it.
>>739584968castaway.tf
>>739644217>nah, they hate to hear it be said but quick fix heals more than the stock so in pubs it's betterthe healrate difference is negligible. here's some stats collected by a youtube med over 500+ rounds and QF by far performed the worst in WR and only put out a measly 30hp/min over stock.
>>739644178The golden days of TF2 are pretty much over. There's not much point to play it these days anymore except if you're just fucking around. I personally just play casual and go as a spy to pretend i'm playing the game while in reality i'm just eating something while looking at the chaos and waiting until the match is over, so i can micspam some loli rape hentai and Twilight Sparkle telling a story about nigger sounds when the scoreboard blocks the whole screen and voting begins. TF2 community unfortunately as a whole has become pretty much "no fun allowed" types for some time now. You talk in the mic? Muted. You micspam? Muted, reported and vote kick. You said a no no word in the chat? Reported. You have a no no names in your weapons? Reported and Valve removes them, hell it seems the only thing they care about TF2 anymore.
>>739645068>. You said a no no word in the chat? Reported.I've been saying no no words in chat for years and nothing happened
>>739645068>when the scoreboard blocks the whole screen and voting beginsWhy only then? Is there no way to see who's micspamming if the scoreboard blocks the screen? That's kind crazy if so, makes you wonder what was Valve thinking?
>>739645172I usually get kicked for it but I've never been banned at least in TF2.
>>739645068>You talk in the mic? Muted. You micspam? Muted, reported and vote kick. You said a no no word in the chat? Reported. I have been wondering why every match i have been joining have been so damn quiet, no one is saying anything at all, no communication or even some kind of help to understand what's happening, when to uber and shit like that. It almost feels like you're playing with bots. >You have a no no names in your weapons? Reported and Valve removes themNow that i think about this too, it's been a long time since i actually saw some crazy signs or names on the weapons.
>>739579457I need to know, what fucking server are people even playing actual fun games on? Everytime I check the server browser and sort by playercount, its always nothing but Skialtopia cancer, and every other currently active server is either minigame shit thats too far beyond normal gameplay (Class Wars is fine, I'm talking about deathrun, tf2ware and ZI shit) or some completely barren void where its no sprays, no mics, no nothing going on, and might as well be playing with bots.
>>739645486castaway is fine.
>>739645237really? US? Because on EU you never get kicked for that. Usually the guy kicking you gets kicked
>>739645223Yes. At least i think so. I mean, i can't see either if someone does talk which is very rare but yeah. There's also the other problem is that if others do mute you, that mute stays on you forever, it never leaves, not even if you close the game and open it again. So others muting you means less people are gonna hear your micspam and even possible that the longer you continue, then somewhere in the future pretty much every player has already muted you, if you didn't get banned by Valve of course.
>>739645615its fucking dead everytime I check, is there no good server thats actually active for more than an hour a week? (Samwiz1's server got completely fucked last summer from DDoSers and has struggled ever since)
>>739645745>is there no good server thats actually active for more than an hour a week?nope
>>739645771What causes this problem with the community?
>>739645632Yes, US. Ironically enough, I watched a guy get kicked and cussed out in voice chat for trying to kick a tranny.
>>739645918there's no demand for community servers when casual is 'good enough' and most players aren't even aware they exist.
>holy shit im fucking dead its ov->notice crossbow syringe flying in from across the map and directly nails me>heals me up enough to escapehow'd the fuck he know
>>739645995you're welcome retard
>>739645995I hate to ruin the magic but there's an option that can notify the Medic when his teammates are at a certain health threshold.
>>739579457I WILL use the quickfix, fuck you nigger.
>>739644952I don't think you know how math works. HPM in combat exclusively would be 1,440 for medigun 2,016 for the qucikfix. This nigger just played 2 games and went off of shitty scoreboard metrics lmao.
>>739647651>HPM in combat exclusively would be 1,440 for medigun 2,016 for the qucikfixon paper. crossbow heals significantly faster than both mediguns, quickfix gets less from crit heals, and quickfix dies more often so it has more downtime.
>>739616952i miss him but hes outclassed by powercreep
>>739647827>and quickfix dies more oftenWhat if I simply don't die?
>>739579457How would buff or change the Vita Saw?
>>739640835so i can pwn noobs. instead i get hit with groups of friends mowing us down with pockets
>>739649216either the enemy team is garbage and you would have still won afk in spawn or you are playing so passive that the players at the front aren't getting heals.
>>739649340Or maybe I'm healing my team while not dying.
>>739649258Remove the -10 HP penalty, add a +25 HP buff. It needs to be broken as fuck to compete with the Ubersaw.
>>739649485so the former then
>Picking up someone elses weapon skin and killing them with itITS PEAK
>>739649489that would make multiple medics uber too fast as all they have to do is kill bind near 20% uber left to keep it out of spawn
>>739649340>or you are playing so passive that the players at the front aren't getting healsnta but I always get told this when I play medic because I don't want to follow my teammates as they go on their suicide runs.I think it's better to stay alive rather than pointlessly dying as some kind of proof that you're helping the frontlines.
>>739579457>doesn't understand what a pocket is
>>739650172the standards for medics are very low in casual so if you're being told that often you're definitely too far back.
>>739649258Turn it into an eyelander-lite where hitting someone gives you a move speed and damage bonus for a short time with a no random crits penalty
>tfw play spy and get a spybro that helps torment the enemy team>backstab them all while they're viciously chasing down spybro
>>739650981distraction gunspy + backstabber spy is a surprisingly effective duo. getting peppered by revolver shots makes people seethe and they will chase you down at any cost.
i play pyro, Medic and engineeri cant aim for shit so its the way i can be semi useful
>>739649762>Picking up some fag's aussie and going on a bigger killstreak than he did with it
>>739579457>Join random server with friend>he goes rocket jumper / market gardener>I go quick fix crossbow>He launches me into the air and I snipe niggas from space while he crashes the party>maximum disruption and hilarity>haven't played tf2 in almost ten yearsI should message him, see if he's alive, or still a man.
>>739651287This, except I used Pyro, Heavy and Medic.Just kind of point the big gun in the general direction of people and they tend to die.
>>739600531>>739600849Quick Fix and Vaccinator are why I consider myself a secondary medic and see them more as axillary mediguns compared to stock and kritzrkreig and I honestly prefer using the former two because they can uber faster and help in pinch situations when the medics with the stock gun are building a charge.
>>739579457Said no Medic players ever. Every single one of those tranny faggots is glued to a Soldier or a Demo and won't so much as look at another member of their team if they aren't wearing an Unusual worth $6000, to the point that they'd rather drop uber on purpose instead of healing the rest of their team.Every single match, fuck Medic players. I wanna fucking play Heavy without being forced to equip the Sandvich in place of a Shotgun and run away to heal every time I get hit because the guy that should be healing me is sucking off some unskilled explosive spamming retard.
>>739645068I don't even fucking know how the item system works in TF2
>>739582308>3klook at this baby
>>739640115>Kritz is not>Fires one sticky or rocket and kills 3 people in 1 second then goes and does it 3 to 7 more timesOnly retards don't see the value in kritz. I mean sure an Uber will survive it but kritz is faster and especially on defense, ruins entire pushes like nothing
>>739653179>Fires one sticky or rocket and kills 3 people in 1 second then goes and does it 3 to 7 more timesnot gonna happen with a random pubber pocket
>>739651274>playing gunspy on doublecross for funsies>kill enemy demoknight once or twice>he starts charging directly at me whenever I enter his sight, usually through crowds of my teammates, leading to his deathwhat is it about the revolver that causes people's brains to short-circuit?
>>739652832>get butthurt about medic on the team>instead of switching to medic to help the team, anon just continues to bash his head against the wall while complaining about the medic
>>739653612I want to play Heavy. I don't want to put on a chastity cage, stuff a buttplug up my asshole, and join a discord call with a group of troon Soldier/Demo mains and pocket them.
>>739651274People have no idea just how good the stock revolver is.Heck if you see anyone under 20 HP, you get the kill, no matter the distance.
>mfw got crit from medic
>>739653753>you get the kill, no matter the distance.I love doing thisI wonder how scouts feel when I shoot them through some tiny sightline and their camera zooms halfway across the map to look at meI wrote a script that switches my crosshair to a circle when I fire a shot then switches back to a dot when it becomes accurate again, it makes sniping a lot easier but I'm probably going to hell now
>>739619252make sure your patient has boolets to shoot before ubering sis
Why are people so averse to playing as healers/support in these multiplayer shooters anyways?>inb4 I wanna kill peopleThere's no shortage of action when you're a medic considering that you're constantly bouncing around the battlefield, trying to keep everyone alive while simultaneously keeping yourself alive as you're always target #1 for the opposing team.
>>739653612That freakin' hardhat?
>>739652832I'm sorry, heavy. Other people need healing too. I try to arrow you, but spun up heavies seem to have this sixth sense that tells them to start strafing in the opposite direction as soon as a long range crossbow in inbound. I'm sorry. I failed you.
>>739641478So an uber wasn't needed, then.Nice working solving that one for us, genius.
>>739654772Medic is my #3 class behind Demo and Engineer and I love playing it, but from reading a lot of responses to similar questions the answer is always>"I don't want to have to rely on somebody else's skill"Which is a retarded mindset to have in a game like TF2 where there are 11 other dudes on your team, most of which are decent at worst.
>>739654772I don't mind playing Support (in Paladins), I just get tired of playing it constantly. I am human, I like the occasional variety.
I greatly miss the challenge of playing medic on public, easily one of my fondest memories in any game. It was so fucking fun destroying shitters that lacked fundamentals, and simultaneously elevating shitters with heals while coaching them on comms. ex top scout/sniper btw
>>739603137that's funny. i pocketed your mom last night and she thanked me profusely
Honestly it's pretty good if you just try to use it as a regular rocket launcher, while occasionally performing air strikes.
>>739586923>i uber our topscoring soldier>he rocketjumps away or he rocketjumps into the entire enemy team cutting off the medigun beam and dying instantly
>>739657778It's good if you have a Medic to keep you healthy, especially for chokes.
>>739657873I do this sometimes specifically because I don't want a pocket. Same thing with Heavy. I'll feel like playing Heavy, some Medic positions himself right up my ass until I have to do something stupid to give him the slip.
Unrelated but thoughts? I have been working out for some time and think Ive made ok progress
>>739657961Bulk up more.
I'm starting to see bots, again.Have then been around and I just haven't had the misfortune of dealing with them?
>>739657989You’re right but its hardWhats the best way to do it?
>>739657778This is good, but BASE jumper is…
>>739657961yeah bulk more so other men compliment you.
>>739658047They come and go. Bot hosters have had to make them manually since the big ban wave which they get banned a few days after.
>>739658047I don't think I've seen an aimbot since the ban, but occasionally there are idle bots who never pick a class and just waste team slots
>>739658412I've seen those, but I'm referring to the pre-banwave autoaim bots.>>739658153It was just two on pipeline. Hopefully they remain good and culled.
>>739652832>the guy that should be healing me is sucking off some unskilled explosive spamming retard.>unironic "heavy takes skill" posterLMAO!Love to see you dysfunctional retards whine. I mean soldier/demo are easy sure, but even they take some amount of skill to use properly.
>>739658486They can't really do anything besides take up space and eventually they just get cleared out of the server even doing that because they get afk kicked despite using a spectate glitch to fill server slots. The bots that would just lock down the map with auto aim bots still technically exist but only if you make your own server. It's also ironically enough a good way to farm your stranges if you use console commands to give yourself godmode and disable sv_cheats before they join.
>>739658831https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdkYaeJhaWo Video to show what I'm talking about.
>>739657961Not bad, but you realize there's an entire board for this stuff, right? Or did you get laughed out of /fit/?
>>739585675>medic riding the dick of a max overhealed heavy waddling across the map and ignoring everyone else >call for medic as scout to get some overheal before running into the front line>hurrr durr stfu you dont need healing hurr durr 123hpI hate these retards
>>739654772It's borin'. Healing in general is boring. You just click on teammates. Hell, you don't see single player games where healing is something you want to do because it's fun. You click the heal spell/potion and the most involved part in it is the act possibly locking you into place for a few seconds/wasting a turn. And possibly limited resource management, too. It's too basic.TF2 gives the medic an awesome special ability specifically to make his job much more engaging, as with it he can easily turn the tide of a match. An "ult" if you will, the only one in the game really. Take that away and I can guarantee you that nearly all medic players would just fuck off to play something more fun.Playing medic types would be far more engaging if they had to put any amount of skill into doing their basic job. If only it was actually fun to do in some way.Imagine if you had a healing gun that demands that you actually hit the wounds on players to heal them.
>>739598583Every match is different but the same.
filling miss pauling's womb with cum!
>>739609078a MAN
>>739579457Healing? I just shoot everyone with my Blutsauger.
>>739618782
>>739640639>when it came outnigga thats been since 2007 what have you been doing for the past 20 years
>>739616524>Why is Medic still one of the best designed Support charactersBecause he actually looks like a fucking doctor.
>>739608514Kritz always unless there's a particularly autistic engy nest your Spy is too shit to clear. Killing your entire enemy team so they're dead for 15 seconds is more important than being invulnerable and killing maybe 2 people instead.
I want to play TF2C but I can never find a server on my region with any players on it.It scratches the itch old TF2 did. Hell, the game even runs like TF2 feels like it should. I used to run TF2 at a constant 100 fps with Chris' configs on a shitty e-machines PC with integrates graphics. Nowadays I have an actual gaming rig and even though the fps counter is high I still feel like it's janky. Why must we suffer thus, bros?
>>739580350JAWOHL
>>739608514>StockBest for destroying sentry nests or any form of "I am the fucking battering ram" breaching to break past defenses (mostly in dustbowl), but it's generally good across all situations>KritzAbsolutely good for defense, it is funny to use it in offense, but in defense, nuking shit with critical hits while having a base to fallback to is highly degenerate>quickfixGenerally good if your team is coordinating, and i don't mean coordinating competitively like making callouts and shit, i mean coordinating as in PubPush where you'll have the entire team clustered together, the quik fix is good there>vaxxTHE medic girlfriend medigun, it does not get any better than this.
