I can get one for fairly cheap..
Considering how fucking dogshit nvindia drivers have been for the past 2 years, amd is a little above atm
>>739741631Haven't had any problems with my 90770xt so far. The last AMD card that ever gave me any sort of problems was the Vega64.
>>739741631works on my machine!
>>739741631I've got a 4070 Ti, and while I like it, its good enough for a decent amount of AI stuff, my interest in it has flatlinedFor pure gaming I'm getting an AMD next time
/v/ is a strict nvidia board. Nvidia has 90%+ of the gaming market for a reason. Friends don't let friends by AMD. Do not fall for AMDjeet lies. Do not listen to AMDunboxed or TechpoweredbyAMDup or gAMDersnexus who shill for free.
>>739741631When were they ever shit?
>>739742445>AMDjeetlmao
>>739742685>nvINDIAOh dear oh dear....
>>739742685>>739742765Oh look, more AMD internet warriors spreading FUD. THAT has never happened before.
been using a 7800xt since it came out and i've had no issues so far, plays everything i throw at it
>>739741631>Puke
>>739741631yeah they are still inferior by a lot. but if you're poor they are an option
>>739741631Nvidia are about 40% over priced for their performance and their update routinely brick the cardsAMD actually get good updates that fix shit but out of the box they have too high voltage profiles so you have to manually undervolt them. All the auto settings will fuck you over.>Muh dlssAMD has that >Muh aiYes they also do that just with slower token gen Saar
Here's a flowchart:>Do you use Linux? If yes, get an AMD card, if not, look below.>Do you care about framegen/upscaling/raytracing? If yes, get a Nvidia card, if no, get an AMD card.
>>739741631Tribalism aside, Sapphire makes solid cards.
cuda
>>739743562Also the only one afaik keeping the tradition of having a character/girl on the boxBox art is fucking soulless nowadays
>>739743640Why are those boxes so cringe
>>739743562Not the melting connector version though, that can fuck off.
>>739743473but AMD basically doesn't sell gpus in india.......
>>739741631I got one (the one in your pic) and it works fine for me. Capcom games don't support path tracing on them though if that matters to you. I'm still not sure what the difference between ray tracing and path tracing is.
>>739743640For me, it's yeston.
>>739743562Isn't sapphire rated the lowest from the top 3 amd brands in this gen? the other two being xfx and powercolor
>>739743774> ray tracing and path tracing is.Marketing at a core level to intentionally obfuscate that they are the same thing underneath.
>>739741707lol amd shill
>>739744014You clearly haven't used Nvidia cards recently.
>>739741631I'm not going to debate nvidia/amd. What I will tell you though is that if you get a 9070xt, get one with the regular 8 pin connectors as some models using the 12vhpwr cable have melted even if the card doesn't pull anything close to a 5090. The cable is just a hazard so make sure to check for that.
>>739743694Because you're a corpo rapetoy
>>739743812in terms of the higher end skus? yes, sapphire has sabotaged their nitro+ with the housefire connectorbut pure and pulse are absolutely stellar, you get the best cooler out there with those cards
>>739744064I've never used AMD cards so I think I have.
AMD cards have better drivers nowThey're generally more stable, I don't know what the fuck is up with nvidiaThey don't have telemetry on 3 different fucking placesYou don't need a separate software just to fucking undervoltYou have an overlay that actually worksAnd you have a GPU that doesn't shit the bed on linuxHowever they still cannot handle AI and path tracing (hell my 9070xt still shits the bed with some raytracing) and FSR4.1 is not terrible but clearly it's no DLSS4.5
>>739741631This is my exact card, never had a problem with it. Would have gotten the 5070ti but there was a price difference of 200. Don't use fake frames or AI upscaling so the lack of DLSS isn't a problem, the only time I've ever felt inconvenienced is not being able to use NVIDIA 3D vision to remove post processing.
>>739743904What do you call the difference between PT and RT settings on cyberpunk then?
>>739741631Every game worth playing runs fine on them. Modern UE5slop at high frame rates won't, but that's a good thing.
>>739743812I would say XFX and Sapphire are neck in neck, unlike AMD cards from Anus or GB you get fuses on your PCB for power connectors so in case something goes wrong you can still repair your GPU after warranty period. But it's all cheaply electronics in the end and you have around 1% of chance your GPU will randomly die.
>>739744481>linux troon thinks the following:->- that because their AMD card nolonger bluescreens the PC every hour then it's more stable than the competition>- that people with Nvidia need to undervolt for some unknown reason>- that it's important to cater to the 15 people who run troonix
>>739744349Nah, in fact I don't think you play games at all.
>>739744783No bluescreening is hell of a lot better than the now standard and constant Nvidia blackscreening.
>>739744531It is just the scope of how much ray tracing is applied. Path tracing in that game is just more ray tracing. Think of it like anistropic filtering - 4x and 16x are doing the same thing, 16x is just doing more of it (and has an associated computational cost).It became a marketing thing primarily because Nvidia wanted to push their newer gpus more with the massive increase to tensor cores (and L2 cache) so a more extreme ray tracing was needed. You can't just call it it ray tracing ultra turbo deluxe as that doesn't have a nice headline hook but calling it path tracing and then saying how it will revolutionise your life "omg how can you game without it?" works a hell of a lot better in headlines.
>>739741631Yes, worse drivers, worse long term support, worse support from developers because of the smaller market share, worse hardware and much worse features. Don't be a retard who sacrifices himself for being a hipster or for supporting the "little guy" when the little guy is another massive corpo.
>>739741631depends on what you wanna do with it>if its purely gaming especially coupled with linuxthen they are pretty good>if its anything AI/LLM relatedyeah no they are fucking dogshit, even though they are "trying" with ROCm, everything is catering to CUDA in reality both are shit and we are completely fucked
If you emulate you should avoid AMD like the plague. AMD cannot into opengl.
Not at all>>739744989Wrong
>>739744989Every emulator uses Vulkan now and AMD is king at Vulkan. Nvidia is such a joke at DirectX and Vulkan.
>>739745030Best example is 360 emulation. Nvidia sucks ass as it. Radeon works best for it since real hardware also used Radeon.
>>739745061The gpu in the 360 is nothing like modern AMD gpus.
>>739744791
>>739744926>Yes, worse driversAnd he's out on the first strike, Jim
>>739744838You don't know what Nvidia blackscreening is.
>>739744783I have a 4070 super and use windows everyday, you have no leg to stand onJensen must have fucked a hole in your brain because this level of brand loyalty is off the charts
>>739741631They play video games really well. I don’t think Nvidia cards are worth the extra money, never really have. I’ve run the shit out of my 7900 XT for years and it just keeps going.If I had the money I would have a 5090, because that’s the fastest card (until the connector melts lmao)
>>739745238>i have a 4070 superlol
>>739744845The point is there's a distinction there that's tangible, call it raytracing on high, it still runs worse
>>739741631graphics device lost
If you're considering nvidia at this point, you're entitled to disability checks.
>>739745261>(until the connector melts lmao)It is user error, daniel.
>>739745361The worst parts about nV GPUs right now are the melty connector and the price.Game devs clearly implement more nV features into their games because nV has the monopoly.
I was going to get amd, but I got a 5060ti at msrp instead since the comparable amd GPU was marked up to be more expensive.
>>739745361You think that's how they afford their GPUs?
>>739741631They're fine if you want to play VIDEOGAMES and not do local AI SLOPJust make sure it's a real deal, at least at MSRP for one of the better 9070XTs. Ideally old MSRP before the 10% price hikes, but that ship sailed back in JanThey're great bang for your buck cards, and very rarely do you experience any real problems like settings being locked off in certain titles like RE9 because Capcom are retarded Japanese faggotsDrivers are generally very stable though unless you're playing with stability by overclocking too far in any direction for more performance or better thermals. It's almost a sweet spot now since AMD can do a decent to good job at Gaytracing performance, and nJudea hasn't introduced a new crippleworks yet
>>739745491I hope you bought 16GB version at least.
>>739745149It's fine for you to have bought an AMD card for some retarded ideological reason, but tricking normal people into buying them is wrong.AMD just recently thought it was a great idea to use DLL injection for a "feature" of their drivers which triggered every anti-cheating software across the globe. So if you don't want to get randomly banned in games avoid AMD and their drivers.
>>739745480And then they remove them for a while like PhysXThe only thing worth using from nvidia is DLSS at this point. DLDSR has hefty requirements and doesn't work with DSC enabled, RTX HDR is a huge fucking meme, path tracing introduces hours of latency even on now $4000 GPUs, what else do they have?
>>739745575tricking people into buying nvidia when most are going to buy midrange is wrongnvidia's midrange is all complete fucking dogshit
>>739745628>they removed features which AMD didn't have to begin with lol
>>739745575>just recentlyIt's been 3 years, the very game where this was tripped implemented anti-lag 2 already
>>739741631as good as their nvidia's equivalent while being much cheaper, the premium you pay for nvidia is for a better upscaling and path tracing (which you need to use upscaling to play smoothly)
>>739745575>AMD just recently1 rupee has been deposited into your account sir
>>739745628 >And then they remove them for a while like PhysXYou mean that feature that they have been supporting for 13 years after the last time a game used it? You mean the feature they went back for and made sure it still works anyway?While talking about long term support, how is it that AMD drops cards often times after 4 years while Nvidia supports their GPUs around for over a decade?
>>739745628>DLDSR has hefty requirements and doesn't work with DSC enabledIt does work on 5xxx cards, same as normal DSR with DSC. 32-bit PhysX got fixed, but yes 32-bit CUDA got axed.
>>739745651Is that all you have as a defense?No one buys AMD expecting nvidia features
>>739745872amd's linux drivers support cards from 2008, try again
>>739745882>no one buys AMDyou should have just ended it there
Both AMD and Nvidia are no longer developing newer and better GPUs. They all in on AI slop.
>>7397459355080 ships less than 100 units a month9070xt ships over 1000 If you are playing video games the 9070 is literally the best buy this gen with no competition
>>739742445Fuck off jew
>>739745872Can you point at a prominent feature AMD stopped supporting?
>>7397460963DNow!
Something that doesn't come up much in these comparisons. Nvidia has way better latency than AMD cards, to the point that Nvidia with framegen often times beats out native AMD in terms of responsiveness. Think about that, the next time somebody tells you that framegen is unplayable because of the delay it causes.
>>739746018Based number fabricator. The 5080 has more users on steam than the entire RDNA4 lineup.
>>739746126>something that doesn't come up is headcanon i just made up with no sourcebtw, on linux you can now just use reflex on amd gpus
>>739746018>if you are playing video games then the GPU that's half the power of a good GPU is the best choice This is your brain on slurping AMD
>>739746116>3DNow!Wow! a 28 year old feature! And 13 was such a feat.
>>739746184It's actually 20-30% slower in games For $400-600 lessSaar
BOY I SURE WISH NVIDIA HAD WORKING DSC
>>739746184>tripling the price of your pc for not even a 2x uplift in performance during the shittiest time to upgrade is a good decisionyou're unemployed
>>739746398>9070xt is the bestest gaming gpu it isn't>but it means spending money to get the actual best gaming gpu lol @ poors
How does AMD on games built with RTX as the base, like Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition?
>>739746516>i am so retarded and sheltered that i never learned the value of moneywhy are you even here?
>>739746590>https://youtu.be/cqhDhJc0eLY?list=LL
>>739746607>invents the life of someone in is head and assumes it's true lol @ poors
>>739741631They are. You wouldn't believe the amount of "why isn't it working" on the newest games. I've seen AYYmd anons having trouble with Crimson Desert, Pragmata, etc.I haven't had any problems with a 5080.
>>739746638oof
>>739746670you're arguing that tripling the price tag of your entire fucking computer for not even a 2x performance increase is worth itthere's no real room for assumptions here, you're a retard that doesn't understand the value of money
AMD doesn't even have framegen lol.
>>739746590Metro exodus enhanced runs well on for what it is on everything. It is cyberpunk that is an extension of nvidia PR.
>>739746753me when i lie
>>739746751I'm not arguing anything. I'm saying that a 9070xt isn't the best gaming GPU like which was posted. It's not my fault your pocket money couldn't buy you a good one.
>>739746751If you turn on path tracing it's 3-4x the performance increase
>>739746798Go play forza horizon or RE9 - framegen only works on nvidia.
>>739746753it doesidk why you'd want it, it cuts your framerates down hardframegen only looks good when you're not actually playing the game
>>739742445>90%+ of the gaming market >at least 15% of these numbers are laptop GPUs, x50 series, and 10+ year old cards which hardly qualify as "gaming market"Cope and seethe.
>>739741631>bubble right on the top of the letter 'R' making the word reads like "PUKE" if you're far from the objectWhat where they thinking? Is it intentional?
>>739746753If you would say >AMD doesn't have properly working FG I would agree
>>739746751When I buy a GPU I do this>I have X amount of money. I will search for the best I can within my budget You do this >I want to play X game. I will buy the cheapest dogshit device which allows me to do it See the difference?
saar we fixed critical vulnerabilities last week you pay the double now
>>739746824it's the best if you're not a complete fucking moron spending daddy's moneythat's the only space where cost effectiveness doesn't matter>>739746842>if you turn on sub 60fps screenshot modebut why?
>>739743525Aren't nvidia drivers for linux basically stable at this point?
>>739746996So you can't buy a GPU without spending your fathers money? Are you underage?
>>739746753Imagine thinking framegen is an argument in your favor.
>>739746996>sub 60fpsThat's what you get on an ayymd card.
>>739746904>it doesn't count!Now THAT is some cope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b3DrLXYt2g
I wasn't too bullish on Nvidia but after seeing them triple down on their efforts to replace 100% of their workforce with indians, I'm thinking the future is bright.
>>739741631Drivers crash from time to time but I've been happy with my 9060 XT 16 GB that I found for $299 last year.
>>739741631They work fine on Linux
>>739741631Yup and always will be
>>739747143How do I reach this level of reality denial?
Should i upgrade just to be safe? got a 6800 xt and haven't run into a game that's worth upgrading for, a friend keeps telling me to buy a card like a 5090 and not be cheap but all modern games suck massive dick, i don't have issues with the price but just don't think it would even make sense
9070 XT is great, I just wish AMD stopped being retarded and released FSR4 for older GPUs (they're finally doing this) and native Vulkan support, like holy fucking shit, why is this taking so long?
>>739747332If you don't think it makes sense, don't. Listen to that gut of yours.
Given a 5070 outperforms every AMD gpu on the market you'd be delusional to buy an AMD card.
>>7397474169070 XT outperforms 5070 ti in like half the new games
>>739747327I think only the londonjeet is capable of it. He's a *special* kind of arsehole.
>>739746935who the fuck triples their budget without not even seeing a 2x return?>>739747037no, you don't understand the value of money hence why you're so desperate to shill nvidiaif you had to do adult calculations you wouldn't pretend like a 5090 is worth it>>739747075no, that's what you get on an nvidia cardpathtracing is screenshot mode and you retards unironically play like this
>>739741631for wireless VR it's shoit
>>739747461Not in this timeline.
>>7397473325090 at $4000+ is just a bad joke.But I think we will stop laughing when new GPUs will be even more expensive. I would like to upgrade my monitor in the near future but that will require better GPU.But I don't want 600W monster with melting cables.It sucks.
>>739747416a 5070 doesn't even outperform a 9070, let alone the xtand you have the vram humiliation ritual too
>>739745628>DLDSR has hefty requirements and doesn't work with DSC enabledIt does, but you need to modify a registry entryHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000"EnableTiledDisplay"=dword:00000000At least, it works on my 4080 Super/AW2725DF (which you cannot disable DSC on)
>>739747693>>739747416you will use mfg and you will like it
>>739741631The 9070xt is BY A MILE the most computing power per $ you can buy.If you are ok with not buying nvidia its an incredible choice.There used to be an argument to be made for the similarly performing 5070TI last autumn/winter before it shot up an extra 200$You will not regret it.
Don't forget the massive amount of more energy AMD uses next to their equivalent Nvidia card.
>>739747491>no, you don't understand the value of money hence why you're so desperate to shill nvidiaThat makes zero sense. I'm not shilling anything at all. I'm stating facts that one is better than the other. >if you had to do adult calculations you wouldn't pretend like a 5090 is worth itWhy don't you just admit that it's too expensive for you, rather than carry on with the charade that you bought some shit AMD GPU for any other reason other than it cost less. You're priced out of owning a 5090 and it eats you up inside that other people aren't.
>>739747945>per $and what if base it on power alone?
>>739747996If 50-80W more is massive amount of energy, what will you call 600W power draw of 5090?
>>739746590Very good, even beats the 5070 ti in some titles.I play modded CP2077 full RTX on high at 88fps with FSR 4.1 on balanced.
>screeching about muh [brand] like you own the fucking companyOkay shills, I will buy whatever the fuck is a better deal currently.
>>739748046Im sorry im not sure i get what you mean, you are asking which is the card with the highest "computing return" per watt?Probably a 5060TI or a 5080
>>739747491You wouldn't know because you don't even have an Nvidia card. It's okay to be jealous, anon.
>>739748001but i'm not, i'm choosing not to get it because nvidia blatantly doesn't care about their customerthe 5090 is blatantly a card meant to just rape you and exploit you by maximising profit on a mature process nodeand you're such a goy you fell for it, it's going to drop like a fucking rock just like the 2080ti
>>739748174you sound poor as fuck anon. how long is this cope going to last for. we get it , you can't afford something and so you've convinced yourself that the thing you can afford is the only thing worth buying. It's funny as fuck but also pretty sad to watch it play out.
>>739748053It is the fastest card by a huge margin and has no AMD equivalent so that is just the cost of entry. If you are buying a 5090 AMD is not on your radar so your entire post is whataboutism to deflect.
>>739741631What's your use case? If it's just playing vidya and nothing else, then sure, it's not bad. Relatively speaking it's the 'best' value.If you want to dick around with AI or whatever, then don't bother.If you want to do workstation stuff (content editing, rendering, etc.) it might still not be as good as nvidia.
>>739748119if you walked into a store and asked for the most powerful gaming GPU what would it be?
>>739748239>you can't afford something and so you've convinced yourself that the thing you can afford is the only thing worth buying.ok, how many deluxe dragon dildos do you own?you can afford them, right? so you should have them
>>739748280>walked into a store and asked for the most powerful gaming GPUWhy the fuck would you ever ask them about PC parts you fucking mongoloid? Are we also buying consoles and prebuilts now?
>>739748293>but what about my dragon dildosyou're a coping amd poorfag anon. accept it and stop being a huge bellend
>>739748342>but power , what do you mean? like per watt, like a 5060ti? you're a fucking retard
>>739748350Why don't you have your own H100 or even an RTX 6000?
>>739742445kys kike
>>739748365I'm not the same anon I'm just pointing out your retardation
>>739748381they released after I'd bought my PC build
>>739748280Then it would be a 5090 if we are sticking to "gaming" gpu, im not sure where you are going with this anon.
>>739748241You are the one who is deflecting. 600W for a single GPU is just a comedy.Both companies run their hardware at the red line out of the box. There is nearly 0% OC headroom, and the best thing you can do is to UV and power limit your card.At the cost of single digit % performance difference you can lower the power consumption by 20-30%.
>>739748083this, imagine being a spiritual shareholder, fucking gachabrain behavior
>>739748419Not an excuse by your own standards.
>>739748431you got asked a simple question and did the typical retard shit of pretending you didn't understand it
>>739748280>Asking for "advice" from retail wageslaves/literal sales people I SERIOUSLY hope you guys don't do this
>>739748440what excuses?I'm not here claiming a 9070xt is the best gaming PC.
>>739747332I'm still on a 6700xt and everything that isn't unoptimized UE5 dogshit still runs great. And even if you did upgrade, the 5090 is a terrible choice right now since it costs as much as a used car.
I can get a 7900 XT for 470€ is it worth it? (I have a 3070 Ti right now).
>>739748350yes, i know that in jeetland it's all governed by prestige so your only discriminant is the monetary value of thingsbut how about we switch to the white way of thinking that actually considers cost effectiveness?
>>739748480>you should ask advice here, where people don't even have PCs better than a PS5
>>739748513>yes, i know that in jeetlandof course you know all about it, that's where you're from, poorfag
>>739748512See:>>739745737
>>739748474The reason i missunderstood what you meant about power is that some anons have been talking about the power draw on the amd cards in posts made very close to mine, so i thought that was what you were asking around.I dont think anybody would argue that the 5090,4090, & 5080 sit above the 9070xt that the OP was asking about. But i still stand that the 9070xt is an anomaly at its current price for its performance.I have no horse in this race anon, im poor as dirt and have a 3060TI that the day it breaks i will just hang myself, i gain nothing for promoting amd.
>>739748548but that's youidk if you know but here in the west buying the most expensive turd doesn't change the fact that you still bought a turd
>>739748432200w for a gpu is retarded. BACK IN MY DAY gpus used like 50w.
>>739748610it's funny how it's always the seething poorfags who are first to call others indians.
>>739745737How come AMD didn't do a 90 series equivalent to the 7900xtx? I like the 9070xt but I would've liked a little more vram.
>>739748661make sure to hide your estrogen bottles before posting your flabby arm this time.
>>739748512how much is that in burger money? 600? that's half the price of a new one on newegg, but it sounds like it's seconhand, so it heavily depends on what condition it's at
>>739741631AMD cards were never shit aside from Vega, you just fell for Nvidia viral marketing
>>739748716Vega was awesome what is wrong with you
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IBNwDg9WkT8
>>739748661it's funny that your third world mindset is so encompassing that you don't understand any other metrics besides monetary value
>>739748704>seething poorfag does this script so often he knows who he's spoken to previously I bet you've not once posted your hand have you?
>>739748751>hard ware un boxedtry a reputable source https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH8fwWe3mXY4gCHkg6cBv2A
Their GPU are good when they work, and that is 65% of the time.The other 35% are random aplications crashes and computer freezes.And forget using them to work.
>>739748774>you're indian>you have a third world mindsetha ha and you're coping because your stuck with AMD
>>739748808I have, on /toy/. Good luck finding it.
>>739748512Maybe.I upgraded to 7900XT from 3060Ti in 2023.I have no issues with the card itself, but until we get native FSR4 support later on this year you will want to use optiscaler. I would still consider paying extra and buying new GPU because of warranty.
>>739748830>tranny pedo>liarWhat an overwhelming shock....
>>739748749there was something in between the 7970 and 580, which were both goated as fuck, that was genuinely a really mid productmaybe i'm thinking of the radeon VII
>>739748841>I think I'm so important you should search boards for it ahh you're that delusional nonce anon aren't you
>>739748639>no rebuttalI accept your surrender.
>>739748830I see tons of people say that AMD cards crash and freeze constantly but I haven't had a single crash in years with mine. Either I'm just very lucky or the crash rates are overblown.
>>739748916Describing yourself.
>>739748838you're coping because you're too retarded for linux, londonjeetspeaking of, did you verify your id yet, pedo?and don't lie to me, sony doesn't accept credit cards as verification
>>739748938It is the exact same argument you are making but you AMDjeets move goalposts all the time to make discourse impossible.
>>739748826>shill post>channel doesn't have a single 5070 vs 9070 videofuck you and fuck nvidia
>>739748887Tonga or Hawaii?
>>739748887The radeon VII came much, much later. The 290(x) is what lives between the 7970 and when the 580 came out.
I don't know about Windows, but on Linux Nvidia was pure suffering and AMD has been decent. I'll probably never buy a nvidia card again, that experience wasn't for me.
>>739749181It's not the same argument, you complain about 50W difference in power draw between cards.But somehow 600W GPU that will kill itself if you just use it is fine.That's some upside down logic.
>>7397416319070xt is the new gtx 1080ti.plays everything on 4k, costs $650.
>>739749250Ran a 290X VaporX 8GB from 2014 through 2020.Probably my most favorite GPU of all time.
>>739749250it's been too long, my memory is fucked lmaoregardless the main point stands: AMD has never really been bad for anything other than AI
AMD has been "2 years away from putting out a flagship that will rival NVIDIA's" for the past 20 years now.They're great budget cards though. Just expect slightly-above-console performance from them and you won't be disappointed.
>>739749435Brother, consoles get absolutely mogged by even the 9060 XT.
>>739749435>slightly-aboveThe 9070xt absolutely shits on the PS5 Pro, a nearly $1,000 console.
>>739743502Currently on an 8gb 3060ti, I don't care about any AI or ray tracing, for my next upgrade I just need a decent card for 3d modelling and dabbling in unreal. Amd can?
>>739749435They did with RDNA2.6900XTX beat the 3090.So AD102 was 608mm2 to fuck AMD's day. nVidia could afford to tape out such a stupidly large die, AMD could not.
>>739749615>608mm2Holy fuck
>>739748512i would rather have something like a 4070ti super if you can find one
why are nvidiagoyim like this
Is AMD still shit on WindowsI'm not gonna lie I keep piling up shit that's not working well for me on linux
>>739748749>>739748887Vega was awful, I had a 56. Basically forgotten once 5700xt rdna was released and had so many bugs in games. Replaced it with a 3080 at launch.
>>739749359The top card in that pic is a 290x tri-x with an after market cooler. It turned out to be a golden sample that would do 1200mhz core albeit at absurd voltage and I really don't know if it is stable these days lol. Man that card had some abuse.
>>739749850my experience was great. just needed undervolting
>>739749850Vega and RDNA1 were awful.AMD should have just released EllesmereXTX - ie. the 3072 shader Polaris that they only released a single cut down part for Xbox One X.It was cancelled so it wouldn't compete with Vega. Fuck Raja, Fuck Vega.
>>739749903your 8350 wasn't well tuned I'm afraid
>>739749707my favourite is>AMD drivers are dogshit! they're always broken!followed immediately by>oh don't bother with nvidia's 528.11 driver, i stick with 517.43 because my games don't crash on itfollowed immediately by>AMD SUCKS!!!!
>>739750041>oh don't bother with nvidia's 528.11 driver, i stick with 517.43 because my games don't crash on itsaid nobody ever
amd has most of the time higher performance/$ in games, nvidia makes sense if you're interested in using ur gpu for both work and gaming and if you have interest in raytracing at which nvidia performs a little better.
>>739749979vega was not awful. rdna1 maybe, never had one
>>739750089https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/739254019/
>>739750089literally every nvidia driver update has had that kind of discussion for years and years shillanon
>>739741631I hate the JewVidia has a monopoly, but I wouldn't by an AMD card because JewVidia has Jewed studios into leaning on their Jewtech.AMD will be fine in 95% of games, but then you'll find one game you really want and it's unplayable even with community fixes. It's just not worth saving $100 over.
TLDR: You are poor and dont do any blender/ai work, buy the amd cardyou can't afford the 5090
>>739749979>Vega was badIt needed extensive tuning, it was far from bad because the HBM on it was great.HBM GPUs had no ghosting. At all. Ever. They had 4000bit buffers, all mainstream good today have 256bit
what was the equivalent amd card when the 2070 was released?because thanks to dlss my 2070 is still going strong, is the amd card even relevant?
>>739750161>believing obvious FUD from AMD fanboys
>>739750275Please don't post when drunk anon.
>>739748956The last time I had issues with an AMD card was with a fucking 9800 Pro somewhere around 2005. I've been using both AMD and Nvidia cards since then and neither really had any issues worth memeing about.
>>739750293i hope you're getting paid to try to convince people that the company that can't even afford engineering costs can afford to run a social media propaganda campaign
>>739750364Social media is a lot cheaper lol.
>>7397502765700XTit has emulated raytracing and no mesh shadersthey are priced at 1660 level used
>>739743525most linux users own nvidia cards tho, somebody needs to tell them they're doing it wrong
>>739750352>9800pro>didn't get a 9500 and softmod to 9700
>buy amd>no dlss>no cuda>no long term supportthe no cuda part alone makes amd a literal joke
>>739750473That is another thing, AMD gpus collapse in price because they are pretty useless so you can't even sell them on when doing an upgrade.
>>739750352I've had my share of issues with my old 280X but ever since it's been less and less problematic to the point I don't even think about the fucking drivers anymore (and I've had the RX570, the 6600xt and the 9070xt afterwards)
>>739750605It has ROCm tho
>>739750342I have a v56 with a flashed v64 bios. It was very fucking good and ran super fucking hot.
>>739750665ROCm isn't part of Nvidia's full stack hardware-software monopoly unfortunately
>>739750679they came extremely overvolted stockyou gained performance with a 200mV undervolt
>>739750764Only AMD let you push your 250w GPU to 450w. I will accept your concession.
>>739741631It was always good. problem is they dont have DLSS. which mean it is dogshit trash tier. I dont make the rule it is just how the world works now. Maybe AMD's neural based FSR will take off but who the fuck knows when. All I know anyone who buys AMD card have no fucking idea what the fuck is going on and just piss away money.
>>739751058DLSS is good because it estimates how pixels should probably look :)
>login to use your gpu driver
>>739751149genuinely yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCyk3CeUFY
>>739751287you have to have a very low IQ to tolerate all the motion aliasing this introduces
>>739751457>motion aliasingnot a thing anymore
>>739741631Yep. Have been burned every single time I got weak and bought one.AMD CPUs -> Yes (!)AMD GPUs -> Nope
>>739751540the entire video you linked is filled with it
>>739751671because its upscaling from like 92p to 4000p
>>739741631Depends on the card. Sometimes there's a better offer from AMD, sometimes from Nvidia. Intel could've been another option, but they can't handle the competition.Just buy whatever performs better and has more VRAM for your budget. Don't be a brand whore.
>>739747660worst case scenario its a bit worse than 5070ti, best case it beats 5080
>>739751702it's visible upscaling from 1080pbut again, to be able to tolerate it...
I got baited into buying an RX-7800XT when my 1080ti died...
>>739751707>AMDunboxed
>>739751921
>>739741631If you aren't an AI slopper AMD is actually better, performance is basically the same for much cheaper and it gives you the ability to switch to linux whenever you want because W11 is truly awful. Nvidia drivers have also been shit for a while because they are actively trying to kill the gaming hardware market so they can become a utilities company that sells compute
>>739751760>baited into a good cardoh no!
>>739751760poor bastardi couldn't imagine having to only use fsr
Given FSR 4 is still worse than dlss 2 I don't know how people manage.
>>739752282>7800 xt>good>amd >goodkek
When is Nvidia going to fix their shit drivers
>>739752638how does it feel to sit on old drivers?
>>739752694>how does it feel to have a functional gpu?pretty good
>>739752694the 7800 has been shilled to death by retards who don't know what makes a card good. amd's software is as shit as its hardware, drivers do fuck all
>>739752282shill. notice amd put all that money into marketing and not into adrenaline which still doesn't work KEK
>>739752759>functional>needs to sit on ancient drivers
>>739752596I don't use upscaling at all. That shit is gay and a crutch for lazy retarded devs.
>>739741707Shill
>>739741631AMD cards are in a weird spot right now.>Can't make use of modern tech.>Can't pathtrace>Good performance in older games.>Still $700-800, so it's just cheaper to buy an older GPU.The only reason to upgrade GPU is if you wanna run games that have PT and use DLSS and shit. AMD Cards can't do that, so why would you get AMD? The 9060XT is a good sweetspot, it's not too expensive, and it'll run all those older games at way better frames whilst till being able to run basic graphics of new games at a good frame rate. But, outside that it just seems like a waste of money.
>>739753159how about not being a goy and buying a nvidia card at the worst time to use windows?
>>739753159don't forget no cuda
>>739752694>old driversnvidia cards get new drivers though?amd doesn't even support two year old cards
>>739741631the only thing always keeping me away from amd is their naming structure.i legitimately cannot tell when im being told about an old or new amd thing because their names are just random strings of numbers and letters.
Just think for a moment why everyone is buying Nvidia cards and nobody is buying AMD cards.https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
>AMD Are cards still shit
>>739753214You should buy or not buy whatever does or doesn't benefit you.My suggestion right now is that if you're budget conscious, you should not be upgrading your GPU.And if you really have to, get something older and second hand. Games aren't that worth upgrading for. Certainly not worth spending like $800 on a 9070XT that can't even play the games that are coming out at max settings.
>>739753513100 billion flies eat shit each day, why don't you eat shit anon?
If you don't need CUDA for video editing and shit, then go for it.
>>739753159>The only reason to upgrade GPU is if you wanna run games that have PT and use DLSSNvindians are just trolling right? They cannot possibly be this brown
>>739753605Fly detected
>>739752596FSR 4 was beating dlss 4 is most titles thoughever
>>739753683That is an absurd level of cope.
>>739753345and when you use those new drivers you get cool little gifts like your fans not workingmeanwhile
>>739753595>a 9070XT that can't even play the games that are coming out at max settings.Genuinely what games can't it run that aren't unoptimized UE5 dogshit?
>>739753707>cope even though there are multiple videos proving itRanjeet.....
Why does every single thread about GPUs on this site always devolve into>"You like AMD? YOU'RE A JEET SHILL!">"You like Nvidia? YOU'RE A JEET SHILL!"Does every single thing have to be console war tier shit?
>>739741631AMD own the gaming industry a long time ago.AMD gpus and cpus are on PS4s, PS5s, Xbox One, Xbox Series. If you use your PC just for gaming and regular usage, an AMD build is enough. If for productivity and professional usage, NVIDIA gpus are better.But remember, NVIDIA is now AI Tech giant. The money they make from the gaming gpu market is just pennies to them.
>>739754081 View>>739742685
>>739753776>linuxliterally who cares
>>739754081>You don't use a thing I like?>You are a *current popular insult*This is as old as internet itself.
>>739753595>$800$670 actuallythe entire nvidia stack is completely worthless
>>739754204people smarter than you that don't like being humiliated by the indian operating system
>>739753858yeah real trustworthy sauce you have
>>739741631AMD is only worth it if you are on Linux, like it or not NVIDIA obviously has the superior tech
>>739742765>nvINDIA>inTelAvivWhat does AMD get?
>>739754081Has Intel given up on GPUs already?
>>739741631My impression was that NVIDIA had the best top end option, AMD has competitive gaming cards for anything below top tier, sometimes at better prices, but also sucks for AI so NVIDIA has more value if you both game and make localized sloppa.
>>739753843If you think all the games that are coming out are UE5 dogshit, you should not spend $800 on a GPU, nigga.
>>739754410before, you could have maybe used ATIstralia.
>>739754410Amdryan
>>739754292nothing done on linux needs a gpu
>>739754681an incomprehensibly retarded response, i have no idea where you tried to go with that
>>739754081Nvidia has easily 95% market share in two countries that are colossal brand loyalists and said peoples of said countries are known for reacting violently to opposing views.
>>739754681absolute brainded IT larper take
>>739747685I undervolt my 4090 and pray the gods it doesn't die.
>>739754410AMDated
>>739754681linux is better for gamingwindows is for beginners
>>739755116Damn, this shit is so old it's running shit at 1080p.
>>739741631they are cheap for gaming without raytracing and other fancy shit most people dont give a fuck.However if you really want to do other shit like 3D modeling/AI, you will need an nvidia card.
>>739755269well it's a 10 year old gpu that competed against 1060
>>739741631I got the sapphire pulse to avoid the shit connector on nitro and so far so good. got it in december when 5070ti was already almost twice the price here in third world europe
>>739755281Raytracing is fine enough on cards like the 90 series. Not as good as Nvidia's but it gets the job done.
>>739744989>AMD cannot into openglYou're not even trying with your bait dude, have a (You)
>>739743562i am getting a 7600 sapphire pulse or xfx 308, asrock steel legend and challenger trifan prices went full retarded.in fact this has to be the first time in 25 years that i get a radeon after years of njudea.
>>739749582>I just need a decent card for 3d modelling and dabbling in unreal. Amd can?Anon with two PCs one with an RTX 4070ti and another with RX 6800XTIt can, but nvidia cards render stuff faster than AMD cards because of CUDA architecture and sometimes AMD have issues with shader compilation and stability.>>739755440That's correct, that's why I use my PC with an amd card purely for gaming and the RTX one for developing my game and mess up with AI.My advice is get an AMD card if you want to use it for playing games only.
if you are a goyslopper that wants to ai gen and play the latest fomo trash: njudeaif you want to play actual games: AMD
>>739755628>i am getting a 7600unless it's used it's worse value than the 9060xt 8gb
>>739755804nvidia can play actual games too
>>739756005You're paying more just for useless goy features
>>739741631They haven't been shit for a long time. Driver support is pretty good too at this point. My friend on an Nvidia has ran into more issues than I have with my AMD.
>>739741631>I can get one for fairly cheapWhere?
>>739755845that is also in the oy vey prices because shitzil is moving mountains to become not even north korea or a fucking african shithole where they at least can buy a 5080 at good price, but fucking cuba because "let us increase the taxes 200% for cumputer parts to protect ou ecunumy the state and locul industry beuz poor pepopul dusnt eat computi" per the 9 fingered dictator.and retards will elect him again.
I think anyone with a gpu under 5080 is a potential jeet. t. white 5090 owner
I just recently built my first gaming PC.Get a /v/ SOVL rating?How'd I do for my first time?
>>739756392>Get a 5080>Look up reviews for it.>Brown indian hands.Legitimately feels bad. I just want one thing that isn't tainted by them.
>>739756282Also our tech stores are led by people who voted on him too and wants to keep as it is because ot is all a huge syndicate union who hates the us, bt all of them lives in ny or miami.since retards are willing to pay 20k which is nearly 10x min wage for a brand new njudea or 9090 xt gpu
>>739756512>5070ti for $750>32gb ddr5 for $100How long have you been holding onto those parts?
>>739741631AMD is there for poorfags, open up any game's graphical settings and half of them will be grayed out because those features only work on Nvidia.It feels like a fucking scam buying an AMD card. On paper its just as good as a real GPU, look I've got as much VRAM and its Raster performance is on par as a Real GPU but whoops now the game looks like shit because its missing all the damn graphical features its supposed to have, no wonder the frame rate is competitive, its not rendering half the stuff.
>>739756512everything pretty decent but i would suggest getting a second ssdwhen you replace your mouse eventually get one with a hall effect click
>>739741631It should work fine. Some absolute power users and AI prefer Nvidia, but AMD will do fine for most everything else.
>>739756612Since December of last year. Only got all the parts around two months ago.
>>739756282>but fucking cuba because "let us increase the taxes 200% for cumputer parts to protect ou ecunumy the state and locul industry beuz poor pepopul dusnt eat computi" per the 9 fingered dictatornext time don't be born in a shithole, anon
>>739756640this anon reeks of curry, he cleans his butt with his left hand, and shits at designated streets everywere.mainly at canadian starbucks or gas stations.
>>739756760the world is copying this shithole unfortunately.
>>739756676>hall effect clickIs it really that much of a difference maker?The 502X Lightspeed has optical switches. So it's not like they will ever wear out.
We'll see next year. For now Ryzen + NVIDIA is the combo to go for.
>>739747185I have the same card (XFX), but I'm on Linux. No crashes whatsoever. Very good card that I'll probably sell soon because I can't find the time to play shit
>>739756282call me when the right gets their shit togetheralso you're extra poor lmao
Given the best game of this generation (cyberpunk) basically doesn't work on radeon you'd be insane to buy.
>>739757337Cyberpunk came out 6 years ago. Why still shill it?
>>739757337but it does?are you retards genuinely playing an action game at sub 60 fps due to pathtracing?
>>739757475Woops forgot /v/ only engages in fotm.
>>739741707Correct. AMD is the best in the business.>>739742445So you're a normie and proud?
>>739741631You get what you pay for.
>>739754081Because objectively speaking nvidia has a shit ton of indians and AMD has much much less (not for long but you get it) which can be directly corroborated with the decrease in update quality
>>739756512>graphite thermal sheet for cpu coolingbased>nvidia gpucringe
>>739756512Prices were this good a year ago? Maybe I should've actually built a new PC then.
>>739757337ran fine for megame sucked
>>739741707Is that how you pat your own shoulder with poverty?
>>739754410It stands for Aryan Micro Devices.
>>739741707mentally ill shill
I bought a XT 7900 last year and it's the first card I've run into driver problems in a long time. I had to roll back to another driver version just to avoid computer freezes and crashes especially when playing videos through VLC media player. It works perfectly fine now and thus satisfied with it now; but that experience left a bad taste in my mouth.
>>739754438Unironically yes. They didn't even penetrate the market enough to have their own console warriors :(
>>739756512>spent $1000 on monitors alone
>>739741631If you use your PC SOLELY for gaming, Amd is fine. But if you use your PC for multiple purposes, Nvidia is the only way.
>>739761292>multiple purposes is being an aislopper
>>739741631Yes. Get a real card(Nvidia).
>>739741631Your card won't be able to run unreal engine 6
>>739756946The only reason something like that would matter is if you wanted an analog switch.The reason why people buy these HE keyboards is so they have that autistic level of modularity on key pressure (or, I don't know, bind a key so it behaves like an analog trigger and play racing games)
Better raw performance per dollar but way shittier RT performance. 9070/9060 are supposed to be a good deal but FSR is still more shit than dlss if that's something you care about.
>>739762319>>>/v/
>>739762725>if that's something you care about.If you have a 120hz 4k Monitor, you should care about it, as you will most probably upscale form 1440p and use frame gen to reach 120fps
AMD is significantly better if you do not turn on ray tracing.
>>739763630smartest nshittia shill
>>739762319rendering, retard, amd is fine for slop
>>739763943maybe don't buy a 4k monitor if you're not gonna use it natively
>>739765501amd cant do slop
>>739765501yes, you do do much rendering you need a card just for thatreminder that you literally don't need rendering if you are a streamer for example, you upload natively>>739765735retard
>>739765923Prove it. Ill be waiting at >>>/gif/vdg
>>739765735I literally do it with my 6900xt, did a little slop for my rogue trader portrait, also did porn of agnes tachyon
https://www.techradar.com/pro/security/nvidia-tells-users-to-update-gpu-drivers-now-or-face-possible-attack-heres-what-we-know>that will be 5000 dollars + your data + botnet subscription + your system + tip>thank you for purchasing nvidia
>>739766013man you had to run so far too find a general which doesn't have the proper guides lmaohttps://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide
>>739766052Post your slop and Generation time / Image or Vid>>739766858Its intentional. But its general knowledge that AMD cant do slop
>>739767436so maybe look into the guide which has an amd sectionalso explain the benchmark data on amd cards?
>>739767498I did and AMD can do Image Gen. But its 5 times slower than Nvidia. And AMD cant do Video gen at all due to CUDA reliance for Video gen.
>>739767436I'm waging, here's from a previous thread >>739533158takes like 5 minutes for the first one and then takes about a minute and a half after allocating all the ram and shit
You buy whichever brand/model offers more Rasterization performance for your budget at your local area.It's that simple.>B-b-But drivers, bugs, glitchesPick your poison deal really. Both brands have their own issues>B-But I want to generate ai slop, activate ai slop framesNo, you don't. AI is garbage scam. Only raw performance matters.>But I need it for video editing/3d modellingWe've been doing creation content wit even less capable hardware decades ago. You'll be fine.>I need le gimmick to get edge at vidya1. It doesn't work2. You don't3. You suck and need to git gud4. Games are full of cheaters, grow up
>>739767709so slower means non existing? so your brain is slower so you don't have a brain, got it
>pick nvidia because amd drivers are shit>nvidia drivers are suddenly shit>go back to amd>amd drivers are suddenly shit again>repeatI'm the pied piper of shitty graphics drivers
>>739767718Yeah anon that slow as fuck. Even RTX 5050 capable to gen that for just 10 seconds / Image with same resolution you did
>>739768305Sounds like (You) issue.
Short answer no they're not shit, especially the 9000 series which is has access to FSR4.x (ie the ML model that's of similar fidelity to DLSS finally, where FSR3.x and previous were more of "not quite as good, but works on any hardware" situation), and for similar reasons even works well with local AI and other compute workloads (provided you aren't a dunce and make sure that whatever tools you're using aren't just set default to use Nvidia CUDA and nothing else). AMD cards also tend to offer equal or better VRAM vs the mid and mid-high ranges (ie not just a 9070 XT, but a 9070 and 9060 XT have 16GB VRAM versions) and perhaps more importantly, tend to be significantly cheaper than NV cards that are comparable, like a 9070XT and 5070Ti are about $200-300 apart. if they were the same prices the 5070 Ti is slightly ahead in terms of raw performance thanks to path tracing (though honestly you're not going to be doing much path tracing on this tier without upscaling most of the time; only the 5090 is the 4K native res path tracing card because ray/path has such a stupidly high penalty.), but with the price differential the case for AMD gets even stronger.
>tfw bought 5070Ti at slightly cheaper price than 9070XT Feels good to NOT to be a waitfags
>>739768692>he didn't clean out the nvidia drivers
>>739741631the propaganda of them sucking was pushed by nvidia, who no longer give a fuck about gamers
>>739741631Yes they are bad and will always be. However, if you are willing to put up with the frequent minor errors its worth it. Anything else is hate or cope.
>>739769630wrongposted from my 9070xt sapphire pulse running cachyos
>>739741631>is nvidia still good?no
The 9070 beats the 5080.
>>739770418what's with the lows
>>739741631If all you do is play vidya, yeah, sure, whatever. 3D shit and AI is the Nvidia realm.
>>739770418How is the 5080 so much hotter than than 9070XT? The 9070XT draws more power, too.
>>739770958>2°C is a lot???
>>739771032>>739770418Oh, I was looking at the CPU.Why is the 9800X3D 72C with the 5080, but only 52C with the 9070XT?If the CPU is doing something in the background with the 5080 it would explain those 1% lows.
Just pick a fucking card manufacturer. They're all the same. Some good things, some bad things, both have terrible software and drivers, both make graphics go brrr.
>>739756512Is this build better or worse than a PS5 Pro?
>>739771221you kidding? that's ps6 tier
>>739771145I rarely trust those comparison videos because windows can decide it's great time to run some background task. To get more reliable data they would have to do at least 4 runs for each setup just to be able to see how much variance there is.This is why 0.1% lows are very unreliable, a single random stutter will tank this metric.That being said anyone can pick certain games over the others to skew the results in their favor. I love cherry picked graphs, /pcbg/ is the best place to see them.
>>739771589I remember people saying it takes like a $2000 PC to beat a PS5 Pro. Not that tech savvy, so I was curious.
>>739771848no, all you need is a $360 9060xtyou can get that price tag below the ps5 pro if you choose to use a smaller ssd
What a slaughter.
>>739772567Oh no ! not 19fps loss !!
>>739768326but it CAN do slop, so fuck you
>>739772830Now try Videoslop
>>739772867video slop is still shit, though
Of course not, the 9000 series is great, but in typical AMD fashion they don't have a proper low end or high end. If you want to see actual jank try using an Intel GPU, I really, really wanted them to succeed so there's a third vendor to chose from but the moment Nvidia bought a stake in Intel it was ogre.
>>739772940Not for Porn
>>739772772That'll be about 200 bucks
>>739741631I kinda regret my 7900XTX
I have a powercolor 7900xtx, its good, go for it.
>>739752128>If you aren't an AI slopper AMD is actually better,lol no
>>739776690notice the AMD owner has his PC apart trying to fix the GPU while the NVidia owner is smug with it running in the background
>>739776690>fortnite streamer vs csgo pro playerI'm honestly not sure which one is worse.
>>739776773
>>739776939Notice again, the AMD owner has his GPU on the floor as he tries to fix it, while the Nvidia owner is happy with his working computer
>>739741631Yep
I use an Intel Arc a770 16 gb (the limited edition one). Works great. I got it 5 months after release so i didnt have any of those early driver issues.Shit just werks.If i had to choose between AMD and nvidia id choose AMD easy
If AMD were good then how come it's only morons who buy them?
>>739741631I got a 9070 XT today, fuck Nvidia and their faulty drivers
>>739749615The 6950xt you mean. It was a beast, but it had transient power spikes in the megawatt range.
>>739741707This is true (but only for Linux)
What would be a good price to pay for a 9070XT in the current market?
>tfw both Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU are almost totally BIOS-locked in terms of wattage control on refurbished Dell laptop>CPU's default temperature limit is at 100C that it easily reaches due to insane TDPI'm lucky enough that I still managed to use remaining allowed options to tardwrangle the damn thingCorpos sure can be a bunch of cunts.How's underclocking with AMDs stuff?
>>739770418WrongThe 9070xt trades with the 5070ti for $250 lessIts 25% slower than the 5080 for $600 lessIn every single game at 2k
>>739777915But it doesn't do DLSS 4.5 so you're missing out on image quality.
>>739777783$10 would be a good price. Anything more would require serious consideration
>>739777915If 5070Ti and 9070XT were 25% slower than 5080 it would mean, 5080 was 33% faster than 5070Ti and 9070XT. This is not true unless you can find some very specific cherry picked example. 5080 is on average 15% faster than 5070Ti.
AMD runs games better on linux. And that's all that matters.
>>739778390*some
>>739778337What GPU do you own?
>>739741631I have not owned an AMD card since 2009 and I will never buy one again. They are for third wordlers.
>>739778475I don't see how is that relevant.
>>739778575china is well known for being a first world country
>>739778603of course it matters. You seem so cocksure throwing numbers around and performance metrics with GPUs you don't own.
>>739741631My 9060XT has been working fine so far but GPU's are pure luck, my previous GPU had constant issues.
>>739741631They're good. I made the switch from Nvidia last year and haven't looked back. Adrenalin is easier for me to work with and I've had issues with exactly 0 games so far.
>>739741631I have a 6700 XT. It's pretty reliable, but it sucks at gay tracing
>>739778669none of the human conducted benchmarks agree
>>739778850Did they compare image quality? Did they compare the use of DLSS? Frame Gen? Path Tracing etc etc? No of course not. They stuck with the games which AMD could actually run.
RDNA4 is decent but comes with some pretty big asterisks.
>>739741631>Are AMD cards still shit?My RX 7900 XTX is fine.
>>739779216your AI slop powered claim was +30%it's notget over it
>>739741631I would be happy with them if they didnt draw way more power than Nvidia cards so yes they're shit
>>739778850>>739778669>>739779216Not reading the whole discussion, but Handwear Unboxed did a video on this a few days ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNwDg9WkT8The 5070Ti and 9070XT just constantly trade back and forth.
>>739778669You can use your brain a little more than relying on a single data point. What did you even use to pull that number from? You don't own every GPU discussed for sure.There are direct comparisons on the internet and they all show around 15% performance difference on average between 5070Ti and 5080. This means depending on game used to test it might swing a little. The conclusion is your numbers don't match the results from other people.
My B650 Gaming X AX V2 just shat itself recently and had to replace it with another motherboard, should I>fix it at some repair shop and recycle it building a cheaper PC (has something to do with Windows 11 automatic repair loop and one of the NVME slot doesn't work)>sell it at bargain bin and save myself the troubles
>>739779332>fine>as long as you don;t use any of the latest graphical effectslol
>>739779216You're not running path tracing unless you own 4090 or 5090.FSR4.1 is as good as DLSS4, depending on the game one is better than the other.Multi frame gen is pretty pointless. You need high framerate for frame gen not to feel bad to play and you would need at least 180 Hz display to make some difference between 2x and 3x without it being absolute slog to play.
Anyone know why graphics cards for the last 10+ years have been meme huge?
>>739779619What?
>>739779472>anon actually believes AMDunboxedI have a bridge going for a great price you might be interested in anon.........
>>739779630Because crypto thought them that they just need a fad to sell GPUs
>>739779413If a game runs say for eg 100fps DLSS 4.5 on performance mode , but your AMD GPU requires FSR Quality to try and match the image quality and while doing so it only manages 50fps. Would that be a fair comparison? If a game such as CP2077 is benchmarked, let's take your GPU for eg. It can't run path tracing over 20fps at any resolution. Is it a fair comparison to gimp the GPU which can run it down and only measure settings which AMD can run? Nearly every game comparison between Nvidia and AMD benchmark requires the game settings to be lowered or tech to be removed in order for AMD to run it. If someone were to do an actual benchmark with options enabled on the Nvidia cards the difference would be a lot more than 30%
Ire been meaning to upgrade to 9070XT or 9060XT from my aged RTX2060 6GB for 1440p, surprisingly my 2060 can still handle the latest RE engine game in 2k in medium setting and RDR2 Medium in 2k.Which one should I choose bro?
>>739779630gotta cool 300w+ while being quiet unless you want a 290x stock cooler scenario
I bought a 7900 XTX years ago partially because the nvidia glazing on /v/ is so ferventif simply stating you got one brand over the other and stating that reason is enough for half a dozen to dogpile with "shill"... the inverse is probably true
>>739779685Aren't they on AMD's shitlist? Something about them not getting review CPUs or something from AMD.
>>739779736>Which one should I choose bro?the one with 16GB of VRAM
>>739779619Fuck off, you hypocrite poser.
>>7397797369060xt is worse value than both the 9070 and 9070xt
>>739779623>You're not running path tracing unless you own 4090 or 5090My 5070Ti can do path tracing without much issue, so long as a lower a few setting like volumetric fog.
>>739779543Why isn't your motherboard still under warranty?Shitting itself is a broad term.How are you sure it's not just W11, SSD or BIOS issue?
>>739741631I have a RX 7060 and I can play all the games I want in 1080p at 60fps just fine. It really depends on your monitor and games you play to be honest.
>>739779704It is impossible for any gpu using FSR to match the image quality of even dlss 4.5 performance.
>>739779891DLSS4 still has unresolved regressions from DLSS3
>>7397797045 tokens have been added to your chatgpt subscription for this post
>>739779768For brand fanatics simply mentioning you ever bought a product from the opposite "tribe" will mean you are a shill.
>>739779891I know. That's my point. So how is it fair when comparing game benchmarks with different GPUs when one GPU can't run at the quality of the other GPU , so they cherry pick settings to try and even it out.
As a 9070 XT owner I regret having been cheap and not spending 150€ to buy a 5070 ti instead. Nvidia cards age much better and now they're 300€ more than a 9070xt
>>739741631i thought that said puke
>>739779782Both is 16GB but the 9060XT can do mostly 60-80fps in 2k for the heavier games while 9070XT can do 100fps easily. The difference in price between those is about $300>>739779816Yeah but the 9060XT price tho but I don't think it can last for more than 5 years especially in 1440p
>>739779959lollmao evenno
I just commit unspeakable crimes against vram.
>>739780114I need to find more games to push it further, it's great having all this vram.
>>739779973this is a more universal truth. to me, both brands produce cards that produce virtually indistinguishable results for my use case. I run shit at 1440p, 144hz. no frame gen, ever, under any circumstancesbantz are fun, but unfortunately the days in which one could distinguish between it and terminally online freaks are forever behind us
>>739780324hail satan
>>739780324Which game? Or are you running several at once?
>>739780397Onirism at 3440x1440. Unoptimized indie game plus Unity engines love of vram.
>>739780550Huh. I'll have to have the overlay on next time I play Serious Carol. It didn't ever seem that hungry on my side, and I play at 4K.
>>739780626It was during the cursed forest, I think it was all the foliage.
>>739780337Because they have no sense of humor. It's all ego.As for GPUs the main selling points of new hardware have nothing to do with game performance. It's all proprietary software solutions.
I think my next gpu will be top end RDNA5.
>>739779685regurgitating the same shit won't make it trueyou're free to check techpowerup, techspot or any other website to your liking, but i guess amd having a gpu thats just as strong but $300 cheaper doesn't bode well with nvidia and their swarm of jeets
>>739781379> techpowerupknown AMD shills>techspotThe website for AMDunboxed
>>739781459Go back to /pcbg/ you retarded schizo.
>>739781647>its okay to post biased, untrue performance reviews as long as it favors AMDokay I see where you are coming from.
>>739781818I don't give a flying fuck about your brand warring faggotry. Kill yourself, you retarded nigger.
>>739781973It is clear you only want results that make radeon look good so lol.
>>739741631AMD for life here, never owned a njudea card.Drivers used to be bad about a decade ago, but these days the GPUs are really solid.My current gpu is a 7800xt and it never failed me.The newer gens are even better
>>739781973>I just don't care to argue about the thing I've spent the last 20 minutes doing lel
>>739782058>>739782204I'm not even the person you've been talking to. Shut the fuck up and go back to your schizo general. All PC hardware discussions on this board are ruined every time you faggots show up.
>>739741823I get driver timeout crashes every other week with mine.never had any issues with my old 7850 and 570 though
>>739782439>I'm not the person you've been talking to. I just jumped in the middle of a discussion, chose a side, argued, and then called you a schizo when I got buttfucked hardha ha
>>739744137>dont use aftermarket 12v cables>gpu doesn't come with one>psu doesn't come with one despite having a port for it8 pin it is
good morning saar amd is best saar
>>739780750what would an intelf waifu look like?
>>739783274Go to bed, londonjeet
>>739783382She'd be extremely jewish, so you've got a broad range of options- including the fabled Khazar Milkers.
I don't trust anyone who is still shilling NVIDIA on /v/especially when it comes to gaymen
>>739783274I'm on the anti-/pcbg/ schizo side, faggot.
>>739783469If Intel made her the official Arc mascot, they would've sold more GPUs without having to undercut the competition.
>>739783284If you have a Corsair psu, they sell the individual cables on their website.
>>739776284was that a lie? afaik, all the easy local slop generators are tuned to work with nvidia on windows
