>cheapest hardware>most exclusive software>basically all third party supportSwitch 2 won so fucking hard. its basically ps2 al over again
>>739791159>no gamesmeh.
>>739791159Third party is all also on PC, so that doesn't count.
>>739791276PC has become ridiculously expensive
>>739791276Which is why Switch+PC continues to be the only thing worth going for
>>739791159>cheapest hardwarepc are cheaper and you're not stuck to one game companystop shilling nintendothey don't need you to do so
>>739791159I don't buy locked down drm boxes anymore, this thing has literally no value to me.
>Acknowledging the superiority of the PS2probably sounded better in your head huh
>>739791441PC is a given cost, almost everybody needs one. Consoles not so much. Why buy a console for third party?
>>739791441So have consoles.
It has less games then the PS5 on release
>>739791783switch 2 is the 2nd* cheapest current console even with the price increase*1st is the xbox series s even though nobody ever gave a fuck about it
switch 2 has no games
>>739791159the exclusive software is all trash though
>>739791904They're all grossly overpriced and their ecosystem is far more expensive on top of that.
>>739791159you forgot the part where the PS2 had tons of games and most of them highly rated. PS2 year one blows the shitch out of the water
>>739792034So are PC components at the moment, unfortunately. I'm just glad I built mine before the RAM crisis
>>739791629>PC are cheaperUh…no?
>>739791159not getting a switch 2 until it gets cracked
>>739792098Nintendo charges so much for everything around the hardware that its closer than you would think. Gotta buy a grip, a carrying case, a real controller, Nintendo first party titles that never go on sale pretty much, pay for online, etc.
>>739792428you don't need to buy any of those peripherals at all, and contrary to popular belief nintendo games do go on sale (plus you can buy games second hand easily if you need to)
>>739791159>its basically ps2 al over againdepends on the devs not being fags and making good exclusive software for it>we should have at least 2 PS2 all over again since gen 6>And yet none has happenedfuck modern gaming devs>>739791629>pc are cheaper and you're not stuck to one game companyOnly if you're poor.
>>739792428>Gotta buy a grip, a carrying case, a real controllerNo, you can chose not to, there's no "Gotta"
>>739791441>>739792580>>739792505Were you arguing these points when people used that logic to buy PS5 and Xbox X/S to play third party games since PC had become prohibitively expensive?
>>739792428>Have to buy RGB lights>Have to buy a sponsored racing chair>Have to buy a mousepad for the entire desk>Have to buy a tkl mechanical keyboard>Have to buy a gamer mouse>Have to buy a gamer monitor>Have to get another gamer monitor
>>739792653No. PS5 and Xbox S/X are worthless systems, those brands have been for a while now. PC is still expensive before the current speculation
>>739792653No one should buy a PS5 or Xbox and that won't change with prices
>>739792656Bro... your payment for your internet connection?
>>739792789>>739792748So how else would people have played big third party games for about a decade if they couldn't afford a PC, since it's so expensive?
>>739792791Oops>Have to pay a contract for internet with shitty service that blacks out every time a drop of rain hitsFuck Spectrum
>have to buy RGB lightsok I chuckled
>>739792821they likely settled with a PS5 or Series for being cheaper
>>739791159>cheapest hardwarecan't even play its own exclusives at a stable 60fps>cheapest hardwarenot even oled>>739791441A shitty thinkpad can emulate switch better than the switch itself.
>>739791159Can it play Genshin Impact natively?
>>739791159They really need more Swotch 2 games because there's absolutely nothing that catches my eye. Not even a Nintendo hater. I have a Switch 1.
>>739793027They need OLED or I'm still not interested. I got burned on a DS lite and learned my lesson to wait on the 3DS for the n3DS XL. Switch 2 needs a "pro" model or someshit with better hardware and OLED for me to slightly interested in buying one to keep in the box until it gets hacked to pieces.
>Triple AAAslop third party *Yawn* go back to being the vita 2 or fuck off
>>739791159A randomly selected year from the PS2's active years completely shits on the past decade of Nintendo bullshit
>>739791759>PC is a given cost, almost everybody needs one.Dis unc still living in 1999.
>>739791159all the games are too expensive and never go on sale
>>739792098Over the long term it absolutely is.t. full console to pc convert
>>739791159games for babies
>>739792428Possibly the stupidest thing I’ve ever read on this board. Do you buy mechanical keyboards and leds too? Maybe that asuka mobo?
>>739793260You don't even know how to read or use a can opener.
>>739793260He's right; PC made its way into households as an appliance, consoles are game systems and game systems are second necessity; therefor not important so they need to prove their worth for purchase. Yamauchi stated this truth decades ago.
>>739793193>deranged concern troll posted it again
>>739793260People in 1999 didn't need PCs
>>739791159i just play on pc that i bought 2 years ago. plays everything fine on high or very high. what are some good switch 2 games btw?
>>739791441Used asus rog z1e costs less than $400 and is more powerful than switch 2
>>739793376NTA, but>legitimate criticism is trollingOnly to a fanboy. Handwaving and sweeping under the rug solves nothing.
>>739793193>playing eroges on switchFor what purpose? Ofc it would get censored
>>739793367>PC made its way into households as an appliancenot beating the 1999 allegations
>>739793376Those anons seem pretty based desu, rightfully criticizing shitendo for threating third parties so poorly
>>739793485>what are some good switch 2 games btw?Kirby air riders, bananza and mario kart world confirmed so far. I think it even has a good CP77 of all things... somehow
>>739791159Affordability crisis unfortunately means people would still buy less consoles since a lot of poorfags are priced out of gaming.
>>739793367The thing is for younger gens PCs/Laptops have largely been replaced by Phones. So they're only slightly higher in the totem pole than Consoles
>>739793609what are the allegations?
>>739791159>Switch 2 won so fucking hard. its basically ps2 al over againLMAO you dumb kids don't even remember ps2 and how many hits you were bombed with every month it was like touching Jesus few times a week we took it as granted and then it only got worse with each gen. Switch 2 has nothing outside maybe two games.
>>739793376It's funny how when playstation started censoring games, everyone was in agreement that stuff like this was justified, but when nintendo started censoring...suddenly pushback hmm
>>739793721People stopped having a computer as an "appliance" with the advent of the smartphone. You are mentally in 1999 with that thinking.
>>739793680I don't think so; mobileshit became widespread but despite made pc obsolete due convenience pc still remains at home due mobileshit's drawback like battery and... general obsolence built in. It's more complementary than predatory to it
>>739793551>>739793612>posting fake narrative of Nintendo Japan censoring third-parties isn't "trolling" somehowEspecially since you kept getting mogged by karma, between the qureate CEO admitting he sabotaged the Switch version himself for "the wider audience" while other third-parties have literally no issuesOr that Aquaplus hinted that the Dungeon Travelers may indeed be ported on Switch as a japanese exclusive with eventually a DT3 sequel according to the rpgsite interview.
>>739791441And they're still better value than consoles
>>739793745Ps2 was the shovelware mecca
>>739793793>People stopped having a computer as an "appliance" with the advent of the smartphoneThat's simply not true; they have both. Sometimes even more than one of these
>>739793854That was the PS1. PS2's shovelware was the start of the end.
>>739793864Its 100% true. There is no such thing as a family computer anymore. The only people that have desktops are either gamers or need it for work. And even then many companies have their employees on laptops rather than desktops.
>>739793823Nintendo does not give a fuck about you or these games.
I hope PCs go back to the way they were back in the 80s: insanely expensive to the point where only enthusiasts gave a shit about them. If I can also get a PC-only internet, I would be in heaven. Eliminate every smartphone zoomer and negroid turd worlder from the pool, give me 1991 again.
>>739793832>just buy this garbage comptuer with terrible specs that costs twice as muchno thanks brown
>>739793957>There is no such thing as a family computer anymore.>Being present in a household = being the family computerYou're mixing up your own argument. Households have at least one PC because one of the persons living there uses it, this hints the prospect of them having 1 PC per family member. Same thing for smartphones due convenience and portability.
>>739793823Yuuna in the hotspring and Hundred Line got censored in japan by nintendo, but ok anon who totally "cares" about weeb games
>>739793967>Nintendo does not give a fuck about you or these games.That's indeed right but it doesn't change that you've been a faggot with derangement syndrome towards a Japanese toy company being at the top of the game industry, with the Switch being the most friendly platform for Japanese games by default, and thus spamming a fake narrative because you're this upset.
>>739793998It's on par with a ps5 pro retardand it costs less than it plus the disc reader
>>739793745The real hard truth is that this is the best of what you're going to get these days in terms of gameplay, maybe minus Yoshi, but apparently it's still fun enough. For everything else, you got a PC, and it's going to take Sony another decade to stop funding movies so their ports are worthless for now.
>>739794143You're crying and victim blaming over perfectly valid criticism on behalf of a corporation for free. The only faggot is you.
>>739793854Yeah and dozens of hits every year. While nowadays you will be lucky to find two great games each year
>>739794113>>739794214You have literally no concrete proof Nintendo Japan ever censored anything but keep shedding those tears because both Playstation and Steam Deck have become irrelevant hahahaThis week have been pretty rough on you guys
>>739794205>PC and console (most likely nintendo)This has been always the combo, PS and Xbox only had their time on lease
>>739793823NCL literally are reason why the eshop in the west has guidelines now and its forcing compile heart to censored their games so it can be released in the west but keep coping
>>739794104>Households have at least one PC because one of the persons living there uses it, this hints the prospect of them having 1 PC per family member.One of the persons? Hints the prospect? Jesus christ man. You are completely wrong and an ESL. Retard.
>>739794262>You have literally no concrete proof Nintendo Japan ever censored anythingYour delusion is really quite something, you really should take your meds. People like you only make everything worse. Nintendo doesn't thank you for being deranged on their behalf, they fuck you harder.
>>739794262Yeah, I'm sure kodaka censored his own game for uh, what embarrassing excuse was you fags using a while ago? That he was a playstation fanboy? lmfao
>>739794313>now bikinischizo is at it with the narrativeRainfall is really not sending their best huhWhere is the blancanon schizo btw?>>739794397You're really upset that Nintendo Japan is the most friendly place for Japanese games to thrive
>>739793854>muh ps2 shovelware Go open a console storefront, half the stuff on Ps5 and Switch 2 is literal AI generated dogshit
>>739794439>still no proof Nintendo Japan was remotely involved, just schizo babbles from a gaijin faggot mad that Nintendo got all the japanese third-party support keep crying hahaha
>>739794443>You're really upset that Nintendo Japan is the most friendly place for Japanese games to thriveNot even close, it's PC. Get out of your bubble.
>>739794324>One of the persons? Hints the prospect?Yes. The edgy kid likely will have his pc, if he has a sister she might or might not have her own. Hence the word prospect.
>>739794443You keep pretending the guidelines don't exist..and yet....
>>739794560>Not even close, it's PC. Get out of your bubble.Not with the majority of PCfags unable to actually pay for videogames unless they're in sale, which mean it's too late to actually support the devs at this point.>>739794673Once again, Nintendo is the true winner and the Vita 2.0 in Japan and none of the fake outrage you parrot about will change that.Reminder that you guys keep defending NoA btw through Rainfall so you're actually the problem.
>>739794508So why was the game censored then? NCL is based and don't censor games at all
>>739791159BS there's not a single exclusive worth buying a Switch 2 for
The exclusives are all for toddlers and overpriced. I'd like to try a few but I'm not paying that much, so I only have DK Bananza. Hopefully we get some good sales on games like Kirby for Black Friday. I'd probably pick up all of them for $30 even though I don't care about most of them, honestly
>>739794737As opposed to all the games not even being on the switch to begin with?Meanwhile pc is selling even porn games like monochrome sister into the millions.
>>739794737>Vita 2.0PFFFFFFFFFFFFT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you fucking wished fag
>>739794737>Reminder that you guys keep defending NoA btwThe irony is palpable. Scapegoating Nintendo to defend Nintendo is some high level mental gymnastics.
>>739791159>500 dollar for cheap toddler tablet hardware >cheap
>>739794737Considering the japanese are flooding the platform, desperate to get all their games on to it while big players like capcom are saying pc is their main platform, I'd say they're finding buyers.
>>739794737NCL censored yuuna in the hotspring and hundred line, along with having setting up stricter guidelines in the west which is why the newest neptunia designs are even more censored and you covering your ears like a little bitch won't change that the reality of the situation
>>739791159>most exclusive software
>Xbox basically dead and buried>Sony shots itself in the foot nonstop with woke nonsense, live service shit and price increases>tendies somehow think they are now hot shit even though no one wants to port their games to their pedophile console
>>739791530Given steam keeps banning games nintendo japan allows, PC is rapidly becoming redundant.
>>739795172>Nintendo fan is a kiddie diddlerImagine my shock.
>>739794861>>739794923>>739794951>>739795112>the trolls are getting desperateman that was fun to rail you up, it made my dayhope you guys don't kill yourselves too fast over the next set of news, just for the fun to see you mindbroken
>>739795040It's cheap for anyone with a job
>>739795040>still coping using babby toddler tabletIt's been 8 years and 150 million units sold...>>739795157Xbox is trying to unbury itself for now and Sony has given strong hints into actually course correcting. Only time will tell but so far it seems they're trying to do something to prevent it, at least until Xbox makes the mistake with their pricing above $800 for the Helix
>>739793832>has to cheap out on the case because the SSD and RAM prices are insaneSam Altman is literally worse than Hitler.
>>739791441If PC keeps getting expensive then the same will keep happening to consoles.
>>739795172Game absolutely flopped in japan btw
>>739795172>tendytard thinks that there are only one storefront on PChttps://www.dlsite.com/soft/work/=/product_id/VJ01005286.html
>>739794737Explain to me why XSEED cancelled corpse party if the platform holder didn't have issues with it
>>739795284It's overpriced cheap garbage.
>>739794623>One of the persons? Hints the prospect?>Yes. The edgy kid likely will have his pc, if he has a sister she might or might not have her own. Hence the word prospect.What alt reality do you live in?
>cheapest hardware{$250)>almost same size as the steamdeck>can emulate almost every console>gets better every day with emulator updates>can play ps3 era pc games and new indie titles like hollow knighttake the chinkheld pillit will emulate switch 2 aswell at some point
>>739795172>one game that nintendo also banned in the west and a superior version can still easily be acquired on pc>let's just ignore the thousands of japanese games on steam nintendo would never allow in a million years and the tons more on pc in generalYou hurt nobody but yourself. I don't know why you pretend to care, especially when you're more than willing to attack the games nintendo bans and censors. It really is just bootlicking in its most miserable form.
>>739795439Nvidia makes the chips so it will be 40% higher than anything Amd and Intel does
>>739795319Xbox cannot get out of their hole. Their brand is dead and a Jeeta with no game experience is not gonna bring back cool games, especially because all these muppets are just cover for Bill Gates making retarded decisions behind the scenes.
>>739795270I'm having a good time trashing you though.
>>739795472>What alt reality do you live in?This one where multiple people under the same roof owns their own pc.
>>739794113Reminder qureate said they WANT to make slop for le modern global audience, they even admitted to hire "consultants" to release safely on steam.https://www.gamespark.jp/article/2026/05/21/166728_3.html>Mr Usuda: Yes, it’s certainly a difficult issue. Firstly, whilst it’s inevitable that some people might find our games ‘disturbing’, we do want to ensure that no one is hurt.>For example, we have a game called *Beat Refle*, and we received feedback from players who said that the massage scenes in the game reminded them of experiences of sexual harassment. This made us realise once again that such people do exist, and we’ve decided to take care to ensure that no one is hurt.>Of course, it’s difficult to get everything absolutely right. Even with *Bunny Garden*, if someone were to say, ‘It reminds me of being sexually harassed in a bar,’ I wouldn’t know what to say. Given that the theme is night-time work, there are certain aspects that are, to some extent, unavoidable.>Mr. Usuda: The most important thing, above all, is reaching as many users as possible. I’m sure that’s a priority not just for us, but for other manufacturers and platform providers as well.>Mr. Usuda: That’s right. I think we’ll continue to create “games for gentlemen that are as easy to play as snacking on chips.” Within that framework, I’d like to take the titles that have been loved by our users and expand them even further.>Usuda: With a male protagonist, the premise of “manual labor to pay off debt” works well as a joke, but when it’s a female protagonist and she ends up “taking on debt to work in the nightlife industry…,” it just doesn’t feel funny anymore, does it?>Usuda: It’s hard to keep it at a level where it’s still funny.>We’ll continue to release more and more “gentleman’s games that are as easy to play as snacking on chips,” and we have some unannounced titles in the works behind the scenes, so please stay tuned.
>>739795475>dogshit underpowered snapdragon cpuAnyone buying this shit must be extra masochistic. And no you ain't emulating shit with this week ass hardware.
>>739795520They are trying to kill off AMD for good while turning Nvidia into a cloud company. There is no escape as long as the AI mania continues.
>>739792987Still crying about there not being an emulator I see.
>>739795530It can, it just need commitment and no fucking it up from now on. Sadly, there are several links on the chain that can throw the whole thing down. I'm under the impression the guy is running the show and has Shawarma only as the face
>>739791159>>basically all third party supporti genuinely lold, thanks for that op
>>739795628ohi guess i didnt play metal gear rising at 720p60fps on medium settingsmustve imagined it
>>739795580The key difference is that a girl might whore herself out to get out of debt while a guy would just kill himself.
>>739791159It really did. My Switch 1 games run nicely on it and the S2 Pro Controller is really nice. Meanwhile the GabeCube is gonna cost over 2 Switch 2s and play the same licensed slop you can get on PC anyway. Switch 2 + PC master race
>>739792653>since PC had become prohibitively expensive?you mean to tell me you didn't already have a pc...? are you a child? also a couple thousand dollars for something you use every single day is fucking nothing. you should see how much my dad and brother spend on fishing and compare the hour per dollar value to a even a pc. never get a real male hobby if you think pc gaming is "prohibitively expensive" lmfao
>>739795649>no emulatorWorks on my machine.
>>739795801>t. was asked to leave at christmas dinner because he went on a trump rant again
>>739795785>keeps latching onto PC
>>739793957What? Your experience is not indicative of reality. And even then, laptops are still PCs and can be family computers. Goddamn 2016 and Steve Jobs was a mistake.
>>739795861NTA but that's a non sequitur.
>>739795861ingest your medication.
>>739793193>noooo not my weeb anime slop
>>739795321case engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever
>>739795580>they are already doing the feminist faggotry of "its ok when the man suffers but the same on a foid is icky"told you niggers that qureate has been compromised since they got shamed into taking down duel princess from ball storefronts, i fucking TOLD YOU SOso much for the compile niggers defending yuuna and bunny garden 2, literally baited into shilling feminist games hahahahahahahahaha
>>739795954Nah, you can tell some seething child shitposting.
>>739795974Case quality is more than just appearance.
>>739795983that post did not contain an ounce of seethe whatsoever.
This is what PC gamers really want.
>>739796217in all seriousness if those were the only games i had access to i would go to the gym or read a book or something
>>739796205>whole post is just "lmao get a real man hobby like my daddy and big brother"Uh huh. Seethe more, kid.
>>739796259keep crying, consolefag. also i'm 9 years older than my brother
>>739796065when it comes to cooling the case fans don't actually matter you'd see a bigger improvement by ghetto rigging extra fans to point at the GPU and CPU
>>739796256Best joke in this thread
>>739796217I have literally thousands of games and I do not want a single one of those. It looks like a system for females so far.
>>739796316lmao, I'm not the anon you replied to. I just chimed in to shit on your fucking post about your dad and big brother. Last console I bought was a fucking 3DS, kill yourself and stop embarrassing the family at holidays. Play football or someshit
>>739796217>10 remasters>2 toddler simulators
>>739791159Feels good, can't wait for the PS6 handheld, which is when Sony will get their shit together.>Nintendo vs SonyGaming is back!!!
>>739796484projection
>>739795580And yet nintendo censored them>n-n-no they totally just kneecapped and censored themselves on nintendo's platform because-!Modern Nintendo is censoring fat jokes, the word crazy, references to straight marriage, etc. in their own games and putting troonshit in games explicitly aimed at children. They are the bad guys.
>>739791441This>>739791530PC is becoming too expensive, Valve and Microsoft hate Japanese game, Valve doesn't make games anymore or games worth playing, Microsoft is a third-party publisher now. Neither are worth it. It's Switch 2 + PS6 handheld again, no PC allowed.
>>739791759I need a PC for everything but gaming, that's why console exist. They exist for gaming, PC doesn't need that anymore thus it's good when PC gaming is relegated to the clouds.
>>739796771>>739796808broke samefag alert
>>739795572>What alt reality do you live in?>This one where multiple people under the same roof owns their own pc.
>>739796771>no PC allowed.PC is worth the price of three generations, a PS6 handheld wouldn't be any better than the PC that was playing PS4 games.
>>739796771i upgraded my PC 2 years ago and it will still mog the PS6 Pro when it gets here in however many years.
>>739796771Your delusion, your loss. Sad you'll never enjoy absolute kino like Black Souls.
>>739795319>Xbox is trying to unbury itself for nowThat's impossible, stop trying to push this, Helix is a Windows PC with off-the-shelf Windows parts. It's going to be as expensive if not more so than the Steam Machine, drop it already, next gen will be Switch 2 and PS6 handheld, that's it.
>>739791159>cheapest hardware by a slight margin >most exclusive software that don't stand up to other exclusive software from 20, or even 10 years ago>basically all third party support, not unlike everyone elseThere's no glory in being slightly less shitty than everyone else. As long as it's a corpo centric console, it's shit, just like PS and XB
>>739795572>he lives with his parentsopinions discarded in perpetuity
>>739796983>>basically all third party support, not unlike everyone elseit's not true though. how did tendoids enjoy Crimson Desert and Nioh 3? oh wait.. let me guess, they're both shit? kek!
>>739795896Oh, I don't play PC games. It's nice to know I could if anything worth playing came around.
>>739796983It doesn't get anywhere remotely near the same level of third party support no matter how loudly the fanboys will shout about the rare game they do get. And why would it, those games bomb on the s2 because it's the worst way to play them and the fanboys only pretend to care about them for consolewarring and shitposting purposes.
>>739797048I haven't played them, but I doubt they're worth buying a S2 for, if you care about what gaming has become
>>739791759I haven't owned a pc in like 10 years.
>>739795657Not him>48GB of GDDR7>NPU 110 TOPS>11-core Zen 6>off-the-shelf 68 RDNA 5 AT2 CUs>2TB of SSD>Xbox BC on standard GPUStop it, this thing is going to be close to $2000. It's a PC like the Steam Machine, give it a rest with Xbox, he's right. Console gaming is Nintendo and Sony again, nothing more. I swear /v/ is tech illiterate.
>>739793745>A new game almost every month after its releaseI mean granted, a lot of them don't interest me, but it's undeniable that they are building a library and is also getting a lot of third party support. I'm just waiting for a better lineup for the holidays or early 2027.
>>739797427Also, forgot to mention>using N3P instead of N3C>a chiplet instead of a monolithicXbox isn't coming back; it's going to be a very expensive premium PC trying to mimic a console just like the upcoming expensive ass Steam Machine.
>>739794673>that VNThe most unforgettable horror porn game I've ever played. No other game had a bunch of elementary schoolers gangbang a teenage girl against a wall. And the teenage girl loved it. No other game I've played had a 17 year old bishonen guy drink a 14 year old girl's piss and chase her down the hall to rape her, only to wind up getting anally raped by a 32 year old fat man. I still remember the scene where a 16-17 girl was hiding under a bed as her same age best friend was having sex with that same 32 year old fat guy on top. She heard every moan, bed shake and sound. In the wrong end she was discovered under the bed by her friend and made to join. A most terrifying scene was when an unwilling girl relives another girl's sex memories. The girl in the memory consented but the reliving girl didn't. It didn't matter that she was mentally screaming, her body in the memory did all the motions and actions as in history. It's like mind control rape except the victim was fully aware. Another scene the same girl and a friend were almost raped in a magic sex ritual, saved by the girl's older sister, and the backlash made the older sister want to rape her younger sister and friend.The loli in this pic is freakishly lewd and once disguised herself as a teenage girl, fucked a boy until he nearly came, transformed back saying>You thought you were having sex with a highschooler weren't you? I'm an elementary schooler all along!And leglocks that boy, forcing him to cum inside her unprotected, when he screams in fear upon learning this. This isn't even getting into the tentacles, the gay sex, the lesbian sex, the incest, the sequel's mother/daughter lesbian scene, etc. The first chapter alone contains lots of lesbian sex scenes with an unavoidable girl masturbating in the bathroom. Truly horror is intrinsically connected with sexuality.
>>739797771I don't remember any of that, but I only played the PC-98 game.
>>739797903newfag
>>739797969>t. oldfag here since 2019
>>739798024You don't know pasta and still point fingers
>>739791159>most exclusive software yeah like uhhhh
>>739791159>basically all third party supportIt's actually funny to see so much denial about this part. Lots of stuff never came to NS1, now they're on NS2 or rumored/confirmed to be coming.
>>739796217Those games are $60 a pop
>>739801838standard game pricing for ages, the horror
>>739791441You don't have to have a 5090 to play games.
>>739791159Nintendo's bet to drop out of the Graphics/Chip arms race in 2006 has paid dividends, because, effectively, it doesn't fucking matter to deliver the best graphics, it matters to deliver the best games.However, let's not forget that they ran on 10+ years on shitty, outdated hardware. At a given point, old hardware definitely limits what kinds of games you can make. Running on a shitty 2017 Tegra definitely limits what kind of games you can deliver.
>>739794560>Not even close, it's PC. Get out of your bubble.Nah just a spattering if PC Gamers buying them on a 90% off Steam sale and also most don't bother booting it up.Thats the reality of the PC Market
>>739793832>ddr4 why buy outdated garbage
>>739795321>>has to cheap out on the casemobo too, and this is with the concession of DDR4 instead of DDR5. The market is simply fucked. >>739791441 is right
>>739794560Nintendo and Sony Japan are the only companies that care about Japanese gaming. Valve never gave a shit nor did Steamies. Soon most third parties will come to Switch 2 and PS6, most will abandon PC gaming entirely. AAA and low-quality indie slop will die. Nintendo and Sony will start a renaissance of high-quality indie, A, and AA games with PC gaming finally being dead.
>>739791159>no games
>>739796929Anon...
>>739791159All it takes is treating your customers with respect.
>>739805336Good thing they are running on 2023 T239 now?
>gaming has been reduced to bing bing wahoogrim
>>739806980HEY GAMERS, HERES THE GAMES FOR YOU DESERVE>recommended ages 3-9
>>739791159>glorified ipad that you plug in to your TV so it can larp as a "console">zero fucking soul or charm the old consoles did>no effects, no miis, no fun apps like the Miiverse>no music, not even in the eshop>just gray, sterile, no fun allowed mobile UI>shitty downgraded ports of other games with worse performance>mainline games are mediocre garbage for retarded game journalists>new section is straight up FLOODED with AI generated garbage, unity asset flips and straight up PORN (on a child friendly console mind you), zero quality controlNah, the Switch is their worst console ever. Inb4 BUT SNOOOOOY
>>739806980Something modern Nintendo doesn't fucking do?
>>739791159>basically all third party supportWhy can't I find Expedition 33 on the eshop? Or Code Vein II? Or Tekken 8? Or Stellar Blade? Or Wukong? Or Crimson Desert? Why is there no word on GTA VI Switch 2 edition? The list goes on and I can't find none of those over there, why is that if, as you say, it has basically all third party support?
>>739792987The Switch 2 is plenty strong enough to run most of it's games at 60 FPS, or at least the first party titles. Nintendo just doesn't give a fuck about FPS, and neither do it's first party developers. The Xenoblade head developer literally said they would rather focus on visuals than FPS.
>>739795580>>For example, we have a game called *Beat Refle*, and we received feedback from players who said that the massage scenes in the game reminded them of experiences of sexual harassment. This made us realise once again that such people do exist, and we’ve decided to take care to ensure that no one is hurt.WHY THE FUCK do they listen to these people? Why can't they realize those types of people complaining about shit like that like ARE NOT THEIR AUDIENCE.>>Usuda: With a male protagonist, the premise of “manual labor to pay off debt” works well as a joke, but when it’s a female protagonist and she ends up “taking on debt to work in the nightlife industry…,” it just doesn’t feel funny anymore, does it?WHO FUCKING CARES? THEY'RE NOT FUCKING REAL. GAMES HAVE DARK FUCKED UP SHIT IN THEM ALL THE TIME. IT'S FICTION.God this shit pissed me off so much. I heard about the no flat chest thing, but I didn't realize the interview was far more retarded than just that. I really thought qureate were one of the good ones, but they're just as compromised as all the others. They've literally become the fucking definition of "safe horny".
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>>739806980OI!YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT MARIO.PNG!?PREPARE TO GET SUED!
>OoT 3d (accompanied by movie which will undoubtedly be a massive hit)>Duskbloods>FF7R:3 day 1 launch>Pokemon Winds&Waves>3D Mario>MarioKart patch that makes it good>Starfox>Smash Bros>probably shit out some other IPs like SplatoonThe console is about to enter it's peak year, it's going to sell like hotcakes. Who knew people would but the no games console when you put games on it
>>739792987>>739809523Aren’t all first party games on Switch 2 60FPS so far?
>>739810289>OoT 3dRemakeslop>DuskbloodsWill sell badly on the switch 2 and fromsoftware will end up porting it to PC>FF7R:3If Rebirth was already castrated beyound all belief on the Switch 2, I can't even fathom how bad this one's gonna be>Pokemon Winds&WavesGonna be shit like all other pokemon games>3D MarioMario is a movie series now, they won't make 3D Mario games anymore>Mario Kart patch that makes it goodWorld is compromised on a fundamental level that no patch can save it, it needs a complete do-over from the beginning>StarfoxRemake of a remake of a remake of a remake slop>Smash BrosLost its identity long ago when it stopped being a celebration of Nintendo characters and it started accepting third party slop representatives>probably shit out some other IPs like SplatoonNo indication they'll do any of thatI don't know, what you described doesn't really seem 'peak' to me
>>739791276nobody with half a brain and 2 intact testicles plays on a PC
>>739791759name one thing you need a PC for
>>739793745PS2 took about a year until it really got going. Holiday 2001 was when the real bombs started dropping.
>>739810638>If Rebirth was already castrated beyound all belief on the Switch 2, I can't even fathom how bad this one's gonna beI'll most likely play it on PC, hoping it comes out as a day 1 multiplat launch but I think it's near guaranteed that it will launch on the switch, not just the PS5. If this is the case, with a staggered PC launch I would get a Switch 2 for that game.From what I could see Remake was fine and the Switch 2 seems to handle Rebirth better than the Xbox. I care less about graphics nitpicks on a small handheld screen so long as the performance is stable and the new game will be made with the Switch 2's hardware in mind.
>>739810893PS2 was my favourite console but this was the only game we had for the first year and a bit.
>>739791530this is correct. i owned a 360 but there was no point in getting an xbone/ps4 and i've been a pc/tendie or as i've taken to calling it pc+tendie ever since
>>739810935The problem with Rebirth, when I say it's castrated, it's not that the graphics are shit, I mean yeah they are, but the bigger issue is that the game is missing a ton of assets, like tables missing all the stuff that used to be above them, empty shelves, it detracts from the game's art, makes it look empty, without life
>>739791159it's a shame it doesn't have more games. I think Nintendo made a big mistake when they stopped investing into game development. They made so much money on the switch that they had a lot of capacity to make more games, so it's doubly annoying that they can barely put together the kind of pace of title releases that they did back during generations where they were close to broke
>>739791441not really, you can just buy a cheap laptop and play basically every relevant gameif AAAslop was any good then you'd be locked out of those, but AAA studios have had a really long string of just releasing trash lately. Most indie games run on a potato by comparison. AAA might come back eventually though, so there will be a point where you might have to buy decent hardware. We're not in that world yet though
>>739791441delet this
>>739811261>just buy a cheap laptopand be ridiculed and clowned by all my friends who caved in and bought expensive rigs with rtx 5070s/80s? no way
>>739811417you don't have friends anon
>>739791159>Switch 2 won so fucking hard. its basically ps2 al over againIt's a surreal console, it's like if PS2 occasionally got a PS3 game. Most of the time it's PS2, sometimes it's PS3, all the while it's backwards compatible with PS1. The console doubles as a handheld, and the console itself is the cartridge that goes into itself (docking it) it's a feat of engineering and it has the games.
>>739809526qureate haven't been "part of the good ones" in years, ever since theyu got shamed into taking down duel princess from every single storefront they have been compromised to shit, people suspected it was chinks due to them being too coy and hiding the credits for their games constantly, but it may unironically be due to having anita or other SBI consultants on the credits like slay the spire 2
>>739811514the performance sucks though, games dip to 30 fps a lot.also the only good 1st party game so far is pokopia
>>739811514the cartridge eats the console, in death they are born
>>739793832It’s pretty funny how I knew it had a 8 GB GPU even without opening it.
>>739811649Yeah but that's what happened on N64 as well, games would routinely dip because they ironically were trying to achieve PS2 level games on such old hardware. I say we give it a pass because of how awesome Switch 2 is.
>>739811649>also the only good 1st party game so far is pokopiathat game is dogshit, you need to acquire taste
>>739791441Depends, if you had a decent PC before AI niggery, you can just upgrade your GPU and play at 4k to avoid bottlenecks cheaply.
>>739808752>hey forzafags your game is rated E for everyone you fucking babiesArguments considered too immature even for the elementary school playground.
>>739810995due to steam constantly banning jp games and everything releasing on the jp switch, the pc part of this equation is starting to be outdated
the lack of exclusives is embarrassing, I'm gonna buy it sooner all later when a new zelda comes out but it's been almost a year now and most of the 1st party games are toddlerslop
>>739791159I had no interest in the Switch 2.Then pic rel happened.Now I am getting a Switch 2.
>>739811649>it’s not 60, so it’s shitFucking ridiculous. 30 FPS is a perfectly fine performance
>>739791159Game key shitCensorship policyNo modsOnly mario and some nothing exclusives for casualsWeak hardwareCartridges which will be broken before discs.
>>739811904Switch 2 has 32 exclusives.
>>739794451Could have said that for the switch shope, but the Switch 2 shop has zero AI shit, they are specifically curating it to avoid it. So you lose again, shithead.
>>739811904It hasn't been a year and there's 10 exclusives, I would like to see a comparison to other consoles right now.
>>739811942This but Ocarina of Time
>>739812023Low budget shovelware doesn't count and rehashes.
>>739811842>hey forzafags your game is rated E for everyone you fucking babiesyes
>>739812082kys retard
>>739811956maybe if youre brown. stable 40 could be decent
>slightly cheaper than 4k hardware >more expensive after buying a controller and memory card, don't let tendies pretend those are optional >2013 hardware performance >70/80$ baby games (they've regressed from "fun for the whole family", it's pure childslop now. Mario wonder, dk bonanza, and yoshi and the bigass book are embarrassing to play as someone 12 or older)Meanwhile.......>price as low as $150 instead of $500>controllers as cheap as $30 instead of $90>gamepass, undisputed best value in gaming>get forza for free, lads.>online that doesn't suck shit>gets all the adult games, instead of 25% of them at extra low settings 400p upscaled No contest.
>>739812015>>739812023It's just a me thing I guess, none of those games give me fomo, wish switch 2 would come out with a new zelda title or a 3d mario instead of crappy versions of metroid and mario kart, pokopia looks nice but I know I'd drop it after a couple of hours
>>739812006>Censorship policy?
>>739812345If you can afford it buy it now because next year pokemon comes out and there will be a semi-shortage which will trail into another price hike
>>739812382Outdated. The knee is now bent, the 4chan narrative is now "erm.....go watch onlyfans?"
>>739791159when will you retards understand they make money out of locking you in the ecosystem. you think the handheld is cheap? well get ready to pay $80 per game faggot
>>739812405that's smart, thanks I have a shitload of indies on my switch lite so I guess I'll retire it sooner
>>739796937>hes still seethinglol.
>>739797427>still using leak from over a year ago by kepler who is a massive snoy who lied about switch 2 hardware and price tooReally?
>>739812457lover kiss literally released recently nigga
>>739806128>>739805715retarded fucking niggersthe point wasn't to make a good pcthe point was to match the ps5 proyou want to see a good pc? finethe 9800x3d, double the vidya performance of what a cucked zen2 8 core in the ps5 doesa quality motherboard that will let you drop in ps6 pro tier components and sell the old ones and it has 4 m.2 slotsgood ram with 10ns first world latency9070xt, outperforms the ps5 pro gpu by 80%$2094by comparison a ps5 pro with a disc reader costs $980, is completely non upgradeable and effectively only 55% as fastif you wanted to convert that into a number that conveys cost efficiency, then a ps5 pro with comparable performance would cost (100/55)*$980= $17822094/1782=1.17a console at that performance level would only be 17% more efficient, that's fucking pathetic considering their talmudic business model where they recoup costs down the line, that pc will repay that $300 delta with use>>739811696linux vram optimisations save those gpus, look at what it does to cards with only 4gbhttps://youtu.be/22Y9MI_g-0U
>>739791223fpbpIt's a console for people who care about mario and zelda. Where's all the japanese games that aren't fisherprice tier games for school children? There's only a handful of those and the prices are eye watering.
>>739811942Unironically this.Mine is arriving today.Also want Splatoon raiders.
>>739812809What games are you referring to?
>>739810935>From what I could see Remake was fine and the Switch 2 seems to handle Rebirth better than the Xbox.It dips to 19fps,has less assets on screen,gimped particle effects and more. Shitbox series s runs it at 60fps with same resolution as switch 2 does with dips to 19fps in crowded areas. Only thing SW2 version has over muttbox is image quality due to DLSS. Thats definetly not handling it better.
considering buying it for adventures of elliot alone (japs and their titles kek)how was the demo? visually it looks really appealing to me but I'm wondering if the combat feels good enough not to be a bore after some time
>>739812890Games like Bayonetta or Astral Chain or Xenoblade, there's very few IPs like that on the switch. It's like they axed all the adult content for the console. Internally they're also panicking because the sales are good but not what they expected and that's mainly because the games are there. Granted it's light years beyond the ps5 which is barely a console and the xbox is dead but comparing yourself to failures isn't something you can do forever. I want to see new Japanese IPs, not western games ported to the switch, those are vapidware.
>>739813184>and that's mainly because the games aren't* there
>>739791159>basically all third party supportHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>739813136nevermind just found out it's on pc as well
>>739791441that's all hardware, PC is the baseline for costif you pay for a console you're getting a subsidized locked down box that you end up paying twofold for online subscriptions and you need to buy an entire new box in 5-8 years instead of having the option to upgrade single components
>>739813029Fucking digital foundryThey shill nvidia so hard they say shit like "if you compare the switch 2 and xbox versions the switch looks better thanks to dlss" and there's no difference and it's a scene where grace from re9 is standing still, and it's at half the framerate.
>>739791159I just ordered a double cheeseburger at 7am. Im going to eat it and play tears of the kingdom in bed all morning on my docked switch 2.it was 30 bucks for the delivery and I even tipped the delivery slave 5 dollars for being my slave.It feels good being a nintendo chad.
>>739813863Makes sense since DF absolutely despise Xbox for some reason lmao. Look how only guy there that makes Xbox videos that arent pure analysis is John, literally ALL Xbox videos are him kek hes the only one who doesnt despise that platform. I dont care about muttbox but its been apparent for years, i guess John is the only one who ever owned and gamed on Xbox 360 so he sees platform more fondly through his millenial nostalgia googles.
>>739791441switch 2 is like mobile 2050 tieryou can buy a whole 2060 machine for less than what the switch 2 costs and it will outperform it in every single game not to mention how cheap the games are in comparisoneven a 1050 machine can still play tons of great games at 1080/60 and they are cheap as hell
>>739791159Im honestly still completely fine with the switch 1 for my portable 3d gaming
>>739814585My 750ti still plays AAA at 1440p 120fps, it's fucking baffling.
>>739814812nice meme but theres hardly any games out there that dont run on a 2060 that are worth playing
you can't even watch the mario movie on this thing
>>739814585>switch 2 is like mobile 2050 tierwrongthe 2050 has 33% more cores and those cores run at 1822mhz as opposed to 1007mhz, 81% fasterthis thing is at best a HALF of a 2050
IM GONNA BING
>>739810935Those ports were complete shit, in handheld mode a Switch 2 is more powerful than a PS4, in spite of this the FFVII Remake on Switch 2 while docked runs at a lower internal resolution than FFVII remake on PS4, there's no excuse for Square Enix being so incompetent on the hardware, this is just a repeat of the original Switch where third party ports were butchered and the hardware was scape goated only for competent teams to actually do a good job.Starfox is technically more advanced than FFVII remake and it already looks and runs better too, and yes it's a fair comparison, FFVII remake is basically just corridors anyway, but the key difference is that Starfox's skyboxes are fully 3d and exquisitely detailed.
>>739814940so like 1650 or 1050ti power but with modern tech?
>>739815648If gtx 1050ti or gtx 1650 had modern tech, they'd blow the switch 2 out of the waterIt's more akin to a gtx 770 or gtx 960 but with modern tech, it's THAT bad
>>739815648non ti 1050and that's dockedfunny how nintendo have achieved its efficiency, compared to the deck you have more gpu hardware but it's running at a blistering FIVE HUNDRED AND SIXTY ONE MEGAHERTZthis is like if someone tried to make a handheld pc in 2032 by taking a 5090 and dumping the clocks all the way to something like 200 mhz to get efficiency, a complete retard way of doing it where you're overpaying out the ass for silicon that doesn't get fucking used
>>739815806>>739816134thats legit insanely bad value damnyou can get a 1050 for next to nothing and pop it into any old office machine
>>739791159Buy an add
>>739816134Does this mean they could theoretically make a tv only console for way cheaper?
>>739816551yesby comparison ampere desktop silicon runs at about 2ghz, almost double what docked switch 2 runs atnintendo is carving off almost 50% of the gpu's performancethe cpu is also completely fucking strangled down to 1ghz, you could easily just remove that, that shit could run at 3ghz easilyand it would be cheaper, you're ripping off the screen, battery, controller and putting it in a plastic box and all you really have to do is give it a bigger heatsink and more robust power deliveryall of that is dirt cheap
>>739791159>cheapest hardwareYes, and you get what you pay for...
>>739816792I meant more if they could make lower efficiency chips targeting the same performance for cheap
>>739817285yes, that too, less silicon but clocked at 2ghz would also do the job
>>739791159I'm lovin' my Switch 2.
>>739816792so basically portability is what is ruining Nintendo nowadays, I hate portablefags so much, if they didn't cave in to retarded mouthbreathers who can't sit still inside their homes and feel the need to bring their consoles everywhere, we'd have much better hardware coming from them, man fuck this industry and it needing to appeal to people who don't even care about games
>>739818675*people who don't even care about graphicsFixed it for you.
>>739818892If you care about games, you have to care about graphics by default, both concepts are married to one another, you cannot take graphics from games
>>739818947>needs hyper realistic graphics to enjoy a gameThe reality is the chase for graphics is what's actually holding the industry back.
>>739814585it's still the best value handheld on the market
>>739819141>the fittest morbidly obese person
>>739819230>the smartest /v/tard
The funny thing is PC players think we buy Nintendo hardware to play third-party games.
>>739791159>buying 3rd party multiplats on switchHoly fucking retardThis thing is only good for first party and random exclusives, as well as NSO if emulation isn’t your thing I do not have a single multiplat on switch 2 because even indie games run like dogshit on it
>>739791159Switch 1 was already the ps2.
>>739819275easy to think when your ilk is spamming that outlaws webm
>>739819141not really that would be the switch 1extremely cheap used and tons of cheap third party games on sale all the time
>now when you can't afford PC hardware, xbox is a gym membership where you never go and Sony truly has no games the switch looks good, right?No, it doesn't
>>739819784It is the lesser evil at the moment. Just gotta pray the switch 2 gets hacked soon
>>739813184So, something like Fire Emblem would count?Those games are coming and there’s 3rd party games like that too.>Internally they're also panicking because the sales are good but not what they expected and that's mainly because the games are there. Dude, it literally shattered every sales projection they had. It’s the fastest selling console of all time. No other console even came close to selling 20 million units in the first year.
>>739819913See you in 13 years.
>>739791159It will be worth buying once OLED version comes out and when you will be able to run all the homebrew.
>>739791441>anons stating they will not buy a switch 2OMG LOL YOU JUS BROKE! GET MONEY BROKE BOI!>PC is simply better than switch 2 on all metricsB-b-but pc has become...too expensive. :(I wish we could just hurdle all present day tendies into a massive hole and fill it with acid.
>most exclusive softwareAnd the highlights of said software are >"cheaply made, yet overpriced remakes" >"shoddy remasters" >"lazy ports">"baby games where you literally have no fail state, basically making them snoy movies"What's funny is how it also contradicts the narrative of Nintendo games being evergreen, since you have to constantly re-release remakes and remasters because apparently the original games were completely unplayable. Like Starfox 64. Modern Nintendo fans used to glaze it as a masterpiece, but now it's "outdated dogshit" which desperately needed a remake. The same thing even happened to Switch games. Breath of the Wild and tears of the Kingdom were supposedly masterpieces, and if someone complained about the framerate issues, they were an evil PC vegan. But now the switch 2 versions have better framerate, and now stable framerates are something to gloat about. To be honest, it's hard to figure out what goes on in the head of a console warrior. Probably nothing, since even the slightest bit of introspective would dispel most retarded arguments ITT.
>>739797427>>739795657>>739795530>>739795319Listen to me very carefully because this isn't even high school math. If you build a gaming computer for a friend for a favor that's free labor and you/they are buying the best parts piece meal, getting the best deals doing so. Once you finish the build, you don't get any financial compensation afterwards.Microsoft's supposed business model with the Xbox PC Helix is to produce a gaming PC equivalent build, essentially in the ballpark of RTX XX70-90 tier families, and since it's a next-gen device it'll operating higher than 16GB VRAM we have so potentially 24-32GB VRAM. But that's not what the coup de grace is. The moment Xbox opens their ecosystem to Steam, Epic, or EA/Ubisoft stores they will no longer get money from online subscriptions. People will pirate games as well. Building, distributing, and making profit from sales is a whole different understanding from Microsoft's bottom line.In the friend example it's pretty clear cut why you wouldn't charge a buddy. But if Microsoft builds it for $2000, to sell consumers at $500, only for hte consumers to never pay Microsoft money when they don't have to use GamePass for online multiplayer/features, Microsoft has effectively lost $1500.Naturally the third world /v/ Reddit ecosystem that is the Microsoft dying fanbase does not understand this. Nintendo and Sony do lose money on their hardware historically but it's within the margin of $50-$100, which they can recoup if people buy games/memberships. Microsoft can't even get people to buy games when ShitPass rentals emails and sir please redeem is all the Xbox consumer has in mind.
>$500>pick bananza, mkw, or pokopiaI might buy it. With the news that there's a price increase in september...might as well. I wasn't going to get one until it had an exclusive I gave a shit about but w/e.
>>739826197The best out of the three is Bananza, but the MKW is better off as $50 than $80. Pokopia is also fun, but it's a Pokémon game and those don't go on sale often.
>>739826698Yea the choice for me is between pokopia and bananza. a tough choice. bananza will probably go on sale eventually as you say, pokopia would be a minor sale if any.I had purchased MK8 for the switch when it dropped and maybe only played 5 hours of it and I imagine my MKW experience will be the same. Maybe when my kid is a few years older it's something we can play together...Prime 4 is also $40 at best buy which is hard to pass up.
>>739791159>Wife loves her switch>Amazon posts the MKW bundle for $450>knew prices would go up shortlyWas a no brainer really. The switch 2 was only slightly over priced so the $50 discount made it's reasonable. Only complaint I have is the back usb ports are in a bad spot, joycon grips will fight them.
Where is Metaphor and Expedition 33?
>>739827046I'd probably go for Pokopia, then, just to avoid the GKC. It's worth having Bananza physically.
>>739791276>>739791441Gaming has undeniably deteriorated since more consumers have switched to PC. People really don't want to acknowledge that this is the case, but yeah, it's true. The early 2010s saw a significant surge in PC gaming among millennials who graduated high school in 2010 and went on to college. Unfortunately, the industry has declined steadily since then.>Leading the front on physical erosion of games>Gambling mechanics becoming mainstream>Early access slop becoming normalized >Unfinished games becoming normalized >The amount of money they have spent on their rigs causing more inflation than consoles could ever imagine.>Steam gave acces to indie devs to pour slop on the market every week, over saturating the industry
>>739827046what >>739827774 said. I got both Bananza and Pokopia physical and I wish I got the latter on digital. Just dropping in on my Pokémon for an hour is easier when it's installed on the console. Bananza is an experience that plays well being physical.>Prime 4 is also $40 at best buy which is hard to pass up.Especially when it's the S2 version. I'm not much into the Prime series, but $40 is a good deal regardless.
>>739828429Thank Christ I didn't get a steam deck.
switch 2 costs $600 in my country
>>739827046(again)>>739828214Also GameStop's doing a buy 2 get 1 free on preowned games, so that's something to check out.>>739828687Canadian? >>739828429>>739828639I do and it's fine. It's collecting dust though
>>739828429the deck looks better here, the colors are way too overblown on the switch 2
>>739827780>>Leading the front on physical erosion of gamesphysical is a complete fucking voodoo consolecucks have to obscure how little they actually controlin reality the only difference between files on the disc and files on the disk is that the latter can't be posted on reddit for upvotes>Gambling mechanics becoming mainstreamgambling has existed for thousands of years>Early access slop becoming normalized >Unfinished games becoming normalized being so friendly to developers that they can make their dream games and fund them while they're making them is bad now because some exploit it?fuck i guess we should cut your fucking hands off since many use them to punch innocent people>The amount of money they have spent on their rigs causing more inflation than consoles could ever imagine.>stop having higher standards than me!!!!lmao>Steam gave acces to indie devs to pour slop on the market every week, over saturating the industryit's called competition you dumb niggerthe same thing you pretend to care about when you erroneously cite exclusives as somehow encouraging it
>>739829018>overblownI'm looking outside now and it looks more like the Switch 2 version than the Deck. Also it has more frames.
>>739826197I was in the same boat as you and caved when I saw the MKW bundle for 430.
>>739822779I already have a PC but if I didn't I would absolutely just buy a switch 2, the other consoles are EoL
>>739791159Why do tendies feel the need to constantly defend their purchase completely unprompted? No other fanbase is like this.
>>739791159Why do PCfags feel the need to constantly proclaim their superiority (read insecurity) completely umprompted? No other fanbase is like this.
>>739827780This anon is 32-35 based oldfag who knows history
>>739791159>cheapest hardwareYep>most exclusive softwareIf you like baby games like Mario and a talking fox sure i guess>basically all third party supportNot only is that not true, but when they are announced, it is done much later than the other consoles, can suffer random delays, hardly go on sale, or are much more expensive, and to make matters worse, they play worse. Having a Nintendo Console is just asking to get cucked all the time.
>>739830198this, like oh my god, you literally took the words out of my mouth. if a handheld is what you need, then steam deck has got you covered, it can play all the games you already own on PC, new games get released on par with PC and Steam sales are unbeatable
>>739830198Out of all your cope this one was especially idiotic:>hardly go on sale3rd party games on Switch 2 go on sale just as much as on any other platform.
>>739830543>$949>less powerful than Switch 2>can’t run modern gameslol
>>739830563>go on sale as much as on any other platform>looks inside>5% - 10% discount on decades old gamesThat hardly counts as a sale when Valve frequently puts newer games for 90% off on glorious Steam
>>739791159Unironically got a switch 1 personally>huge catalog of stuff I haven't played and cannot emulate>1/5 of the price of a switch 1>piracyToo bad that emulators don't work after an update and noones gives a shit besides me, I guess it's an excuse to learn some graphics api
>>739830563Idiot, Nintendo sales are terrible, Those same games are literally cheaper in every other system
>>739810513Zelda has never run at a stable 60>>739833116How's OLED piracy now?
no the switch 2 is easily one of the worst consoles ive ever owned. yet again nintendo has made the console anti-consumer. they had an ample opportunity to make this console run all games at 1080p 120 fps but noooo we have to target 4k upscaled on the tablet console! And yes, games absolutely can run at 1080 120 fps. "B-but most TVs are not 120hz!" Sony TVs are.But yeah I'll probably just sell this shit at a minor loss and wait for Switch 2 emulation.
>>739826197There was a sale where I live so I got it for $460, not much of a sale, but considering I'm in a third world country, it really is.Gonna get Hyrule Warriors, and waiting on Starfox and Splatoon.After that hopefully Nintendo announces more shit.
>>739834573Brazil? if so, I got it probably on the same sale as you, got the MK World edition
>>739833638hardmod only, you need soldiering skills or find someone that would do it for younot sure if there's a service you can just sent your switch and they modchip it, look around
>>739791159>>cheapest hardware>>most exclusive software>>basically all third party supportwhy did it flop so bad though?also try responding without sounding too mad
>>739837006Not OLED
>>739837006This looks comfy, kek.
>>739837006Not even a year old and already top 20 best selling consoles everI'm not fucking buying it and I don't expect litterally switch 1 sales but people have spoken
>>739837006This WILL be me when Starfox releases.
>>739834910Mex.And yeah with Mario Kart.I like having multiplayer games in Digital and Single Player in physical.
>>739791159>>basically all third party support>meanwhile pic related is just a small section of my 200+ games list that's not on SwitchYou guys like to shit on PS4/PS5 as the nogames platform but its more like the Switch platforms is the real no games platform
WHERE IS METAPHOR AND EXPEDITION 33??
>>739828429>Using a shitty ubisoft game as a win
>>739791441Coming from the retard calling people "poor" for not wanting to buy a shitty tablet. Be consistent, faggot.
>>739806908Why would someone even make that image? That's kind of sad.
>>739828429Man, the Steam Deck is such a piece of shit, it's unreal. Can't wait for the PS6 handheld to replace that garbage. Switch 2 + PS6 handheld next gen, baby!
>>739812669It's actually finalized, shut the hell up. Learn the difference of Sony's N3C and Microsoft's N3P. Xbox as a console is dead, this is Xbox as a PC, and it will be expensive and irrelevant like the Steam Machine. Nintendo and Sony won, consoles won, PCs lost.
>>739840382>d-doesn't count
>>739828429>forced raytracing on pc>gimped below minimum settings for the switch2>still coping this hard with outlaws, the only favorable comparison you got and is slop nobody gives a shit aboutlmao
>>739840382Ever since I got a Switch 2, I'm starting to understand tendies.Literally every argument boils down to "It doesn't count!"
>>739839527Man, it must suck having access to every game in the world and only playing the shitty ones.
>>739791159Once you get right down to it. The gaming audience has been conditioned to be bargain hunters, believing that things get cheaper over time when the reality is that things actually get more expensive as time goes on.AAA is crashing for a reason.The obsession with graphics during the console war that Sega started and ultimately lost in was proof enough that there are still unsustainable elements to the game industry. There were other game consoles that were powerful outside of Nintendo vs Sega and they were over priced piece of shit.Even the multitude of addons and revisions Sega did to their consoles were too fucking expensive.Even the PlayStation 1 didn't get good until 1999 and by then it was PS2 time.PS3 also showed us what happens when you go too far.The AAA game problem is more on software but now hardware is becoming an issue due to the AI trade.On that note, if you're not part of the AI bull market then you're losing. I literally just made $695 today on just one option premium and $590 last week.Just recycling money I have and am not spending.
>>739841559>it doesn't count!
>>739841559Yet literally every single one of those games is better than the ubislop tendies constantly shitpost with. Very curious.
>>739841258>>739841502Oh it definitely counts, but that doesn't make it any less shitty
>>739841559>i can't play these games on my shitty handheld therefore they are shit.We get it anon, you don't like playing video games.
>>739824143Exactly, Xbox is as dead as Steam Hardware. Nintendo of old is back and Sony of old is returning while PC gaming is going up in flames. Because of the high prices, quality indies, A, and AA studios will leave PC for Switch and PlayStation, AAA who aren't stupid, will start benchmarking off the Switch and PlayStation instead of PC gaming. Devs will start telling PC users to upgrade their hardware to $800-$3000+ devices. People will just get a Switch 2 and any version of the PS6. PC gaming will become cloud gaming and the only native experience will be low-quality indie slop. Microsoft will drop hardware and go full third-party, Valve will drop hardware and just go back to a declining Steam. Their vocal minority of third-world cucks will continue to defend Xbox and Steam. Nintendo and Sony will take over gaming with consoles. There will be a massive golden age of quality-indies, A, and AA games that Xbox and Steam will miss out on while AAA fully corrects itself because of Nintendo and Sony. Switch 2 won't miss out on games due to the PS6 handheld using the same type of RAM, LPDDR5X while not having too much over the Switch 2. Nvidia and AMD will continue to make chips for only Nintendo and Sony as they're the money makers next to AI, they will abandon PC gaming.
>>739827780Yup, PC gaming has always been a cancer to console gaming, glad it's ending and PC gaming is finally dying. This is what happens when you only push for graphics.
>>739841982Nice essay of cope lmao
>>739840781Whoa that's crazy as I do not recall ever saying this
>>739841982>>739842054PC is what games are made on to begin with. There's only one utterly redundant class of systems here that will be the first to go when hardware prices get real bad, and it's not the open and multipurpose systems that do everything a console can and far more. Consolefags acting like consoles are made out of pixie dist and talcum and aren't a complete waste of compute and money for hardware manufacturers now are in for an extremely rude awakening when new contracts are signed.
>>739842153It's not cope, Nintendo is doing better than ever, Sony is course correcting even getting rid of pronouns. They're getting the last of their western crap out so they can start fresh during the PS6 era. Microsoft just announced that they will continue to show Switch and PlayStation in their trailers signaling that they're never getting their exclusives back, Valve has indicated that the Steam Machine will be over $1000. PC gaming is becoming too expensive with the big wigs wanting to make it into a cloud gaming platform for AI. It's over consoles won. Sony should have had trouble reclaiming their place in the handheld market, but Valve handed it to them on a silver platter. PC gaming is over, PC gamers will own nothing and they will be happy.
>>739841982retarded low iq niggerdo you know what will happen if this situation actually holds?consoles fucking disappearamd and nvidia aren't fucking wasting their capacity on lower margin contracts for your tardboxes, those will be the first to get renegotiated into the shadow realm
>>739841928>Vanquish isn't even on any of the Switch consolesDamn you motherfuckers are missing out
>>739791159I'm honestly amazed how Nintendo has managed to have a release each month, granted the last years of Switch 1 were a bit dry but still I was expecting things to go badly as with PS4. What kinda "sucks" is that most of the releases don't do it for me so I haven't bought any 1st party games but that's a me problem ofc.
>>739842412Tendies say it all the time.
>>739842598Nintendo's stock is in the gutter. You lot think 'muh sales' is all that matters and it's not. Sony is in a safer position than Nintendo is and Valve is doing better than both. Thinking PC is dying is pure delusion and even if that was true, consoles would die first, since, you know, they're kind of made out of the same expensive parts and consoles require PC to even get their games made.
>>739842732Are these "tendies" in the room with us right now?
>>739842760This is a tendie board, so yes.
>>739812783the PS5 uses unified memory, with many games utilizing ~10GBs of it as VRAM, an 8GB card is not a good enough equivalent.
>>739842807Tendies are actually just an extremely loud and stupid minority. It's a PC board and there's been polls to prove it.
>>739842807>>739842908You're both retarded
>>739842965You're in this shit thread, don't act like you're any better.
>>739842965Silence, tendie, play on your tablet.
>>739842906did you look at the attached video dumbass?linux in fact solves that issue
>>739843089I play on PC
>>739793745People say this but i dont feel like i missed out on anything by not having one. Ironically the first current gen console i owned was a playstation and that was also the only non nintendo console i ever owned at the time(unless you count commodore 64 as a console), but i liked the ps1 mainly for the 2d games i dropped most the 3d ones because low poly 3d is cancer. It may be nostalgia, but i feel like their library peaked with the first one because i would be hard pressed to name even 10 games on any of the other 4 playstations i would want to play and most the sequels to ps1 games i enjoyed ruined the franchise. What are the must play games ps2 allegedly had?
>>739843118Most users don't want to switch to linux
good luck modding a switch 2 to play anything not in Nintendo's ecosystem. even if Steam dropped the ball with their price hike, i still rather have a steam deck over a switch 2. there is no good exclusives on switch 2 either, and no, Ditto Quest Builders 2 doesn't count.
>>739843289too bad, they'll have to eventuallythe writing on the wall is already there, windows is relying on inertia which it's actively losing and a centralised operating system is not a good idea, microsoft has been proving it for the past 10 years after they had lightning in a bottle with windows 7 and released it
>>739842453>PC is what games are made on to begin withSomeone doesn't remember the gens before the 8th. All games were made on PC, yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll release on PC at all. PC gaming is a redundancy, PC gaming is meant to be something like solitaire, chess, or pinball, it was never something that was meant to be taken seriously. PC are and will always be workstations, consoles are meant for play, they are gamestations for the home and gamestations for the hands.
>>739843702you underestimate stubbornness. which ironically you post on /v/ so you'd know the feeling.
>>739843830consoles are meant to limit their users to favor the corporation that makes themthat's all they are, a legacy business that doesn't benefit but its own growth like a fucking cancerif they were gone overnight nothing would substantially change, at most retards too stupid for computers would get filtered out
>>739843830You've been brainwashed and you're digging your head in the sand ignoring the actual threat to consoles.
>>739791159wheres the games doe.
>>739843830Setting aside the spat over PC, consoles rely entirely on ignorance and apathy at this point. The masses generally fit the bill and they have a market because of that. But they can still get royally fucked out of existence if manufacturing conditions don't allow their cheap production.
>>739842634>>739842758>>739843958>>739844038>>739844641Look how these PC-ucks rage out at the truth. They know it's over for PC gaming.
>>739844949You need to say something truthful first for there to be any bite to it.
>>739844949consoles as a business thrive on dishonesty and hostility
>>739842807You got your ass beat by tendies, didn't you?
>>739844209At the store.
>>739842661They missed out on a bunch of awesome games. But of course to them, they "don't count"They're still waiting for Elden Ring too btw after like what? almost five years?
>>739824107This is the type of slop, PC-ucks play. They truly are the cucks of gaming. If you want to be a Librarian, get a job as a Librarian.
>>739796861Dumb and poor frogposter
>>739845921There's no magic library in the world.
>>739796937>That's impossible, stop trying to push this>kills the stupid ass "this is an xbox" ad>traces back on the GP raise to most of its extent>Heavy survey period of clients left about what they wantThey most likely will screw up with the pricing but if they listen and begin to drop exclusive software with actual commitment in there, it can become worth the price
>>739797046>says who lives under a model that damned him with roomates for eternity until culled from existencesilence
>>739845921projection
>>739797427>>739824143There's something you ignore; MS can tank those costs if they chose to. So far the ball is entirely in their field and have all the chances to pull it off. If they fumble it, again, remains to be seen>>739818947Wrong; visuals don't a game good. Tetris and Pong proved this long before you were born.>>739819121This. And now they're stanant after hitting a wall in that regard
>>739843179lol, this absolute fucking retard>low poly 3d is canceryup, soulless retard
>>739842634>consoles fucking disappear*PC handhelds>>739842965This. This board has everything but xbots but everyone is a minority and loud.
>>739847032pc handhelds are a luxury, you crying about the prices makes no fucking sense when even something retarded like a 5090 pc offers greater price to performance and that's literally the worst value a pc can offer
>>739846248See>>739797427 and >>739797747Add the third-party stores and only 12% tax in their own Xbox PC Store and you're getting an expensive PC wearing a console mask.>>739846661>MS can tank those costs if they chose toThey can't, they were only able to do that with the Xbox console Store-only with 30% tax and paid online. That's gone with Helix because it's a Windows PC. Microsoft is seeing this and don't plan to bring back exclusives. You idiots are easily swayed.
>>739791223>>739812809Pokopia is the game of the year
>>739791159Where do you apply for shilling activities? I wouldn't mind shitposting for a few bucks a day.
>>739846940Its not soul it's fucking ugly and it makes my eyes bleed you'd have to be a retard to prefer primitive 3d vs 32 bit sprites
Anyone else getting a Switch 2 and PS6 handheld next gen?
>>739849228i'm enjoying this new angle consolecucks are takingtwo meme bricks that get mogged by the bottom tier rtx 5050
Once they release a lite version, then I'll get one.
>Consolefags trying to NOT bring the dual pc/console argument impossible challengeTruly the masterrace
Oh kami-sama, please us have a switch 2 emulator by the end of this year please
>>739850237Nah, you can keep it, it got no games.
>>739849695PC+console has always been the big dick choice. The issue being that the amount of worthwhile console to own alongside a PC has dropped to one.
>>739793745It will sell PS2 numbers but won't have PS2 amounts of exclusives simply due to HD development cycles. Simply put, it's over.
>>739812020You're right, instead you're left with shitty remasters of Wii games, faggot comfy slop for fat women, and paid upgrade patches for shit you played 5 years ago, lol
>>739847124>pc handhelds are a luxuryLike consoles but pc handhelds are way too expensive for the little they offer as device.
The hard cope PC-ucks will never accept is that developers start on PC so they can eventually move the consoles, some want to permanently move to consoles. No dev actually cares about PC gaming and are just waiting for a reason to drop it. Donuvo failing and price hiking will do that.
>>739850437>has dropped to noneftfy
>>739847197>They can'tThey did with the rrod situation, if they managed to tank that event that would kill the majority of companies they can tank anything>You idiots are easily swayed.Stop being retarded on purpose; nobody is stating that as a reality.
>>739791276That argument only applies to consoles that aren't portable
>>739791159>>most exclusive softwareYeah, there's a lot more exclusives on PC, 40 years worth as a matter of fact.
>>739850882quite the contrary actuallypc is the primary market, easier to develop for, consoles are where you go once you've established your ipconsolecuck corpos are way more anal about game development, you only go there because it's free money
>>739850885Is this your attempt at trying to generate pity? Not my fault you are unable to enjoy games in the big 26.
>>739846319I live on 250 acres of land with my wife and kid. Project harder.
>>739850909>They did with the rrod situationXbox was a console then, Xbox is no longer a console, as the next one will be a Windows PC. Things have changed. Microsoft also want to go multiplatform.
>>739851068I have and enjoy thousands of games and am finally console cancer free.
>>739849228I'm only getting a Switch 2 OLED.
>>739791159Kinda bizarre to me how they haven't even announced a new Zelda or main line Mario game. Like merely knowing those games are going to come out sooner or later would get a ton of idiots to buy the thing purely in preparation for that.
>>739851247>and am finally Console refugees are so cute. Just because you can now afford a destitute PC but not a console to go with it doesn't mean you have joined the master race. That has always been the idort.
>>739851131>lying on the internet
>>739851402>wasting money on redundant goy hardware that's insulting your intelligence by just existing is a master race choice
>>739851168Still is, only MS forgot about it.If anything your own logic contradicts itself; if Xbox was just a console back then now they can pull something like that easier if they're "bigger" now as you imply. But again; your mistake is assuming all of this as fact, which is not and I'm mentioning possibilities within reach
>>739851402I have more than enough money. What I don't have is a need for consoles.
>>739851506Nice headcanon, but I buy hardware if it has good games. That's the only reason to buy hardware. We are back to square 1 of you being a melodramatic woman and pretending all games are shit.
>>739851063>pc is the primary marketFor now, things are changing with Donuvo failing and high prices are coming in hard for gaming PCs, I can't see that lasting because who is even going to be able to afford this stuff? 10th gen, the Switch 2 and PS6 handheld will become the primary market going forward.
>>739851627i'm not that guy, i'm just making fun of your retarded high time preference consumerismconsoles are explicitly designed for impulsive retards and you fell for it
just got a switch 2is there a more convenient way to share games with my brother other than the virtual card burrowing bullshit ??
>>739851710learn to spell denuvo, you mindbroken midwityou understand nothing about the fucking market, the overwhelming majority of games don't fucking have denuvo>high prices are coming in hard for gaming PCsconsoles are worse value than pcs, especially your retarded fucking handhelds, those are the epitomy of a shit value product considering how cucked the hardware is
>>739851845>vegan using "cucked" hardware to justify his seethingiconic duoat this point
>>739851053>the shittiest looking and worst performing version of a game also on a goycuck key cardKek, definitely not
>>739851742>high time preference consumerismInstead you will spend the same energy begging for an emulator for the best part of the 2020s. Is this supposed to be anything but a self-own?
>>739851525It's not, next gen, they're using an off-the-shelf desktop PC GPU and a premium node built on performance instead of the consumer node made for the mass market. It's also using a chiplet instead of a monolithic chip. It's a PC that emulates console games. Before Helix, Xbox had its own console-only dev environment, now with Helix, it's just Win32 like all the rest.
>>739851919yes, handhelds are cucked, they're running much lower clocks due to thermal constraints and you're paying way more for portabilityyou're a midwit and you don't understand anything about hardwarefor fucks sake, a 5090 PC WINS at price to performance against the switch 2 and that's undisputably the worst value offering pc currently has
>>739811942it's just another remake but with AAA modern crap
>>739851845Consoles have better value given they're cheaper and have quality control minus Xbox. Being affordable is the only reason the Steam Deck made it as far as it did. Without that, it and the rest of the handheld PC market is going to die overnight.
>>739851402>acting like a masterrace when he's getting assblasted defending consolesMany such cases. You are a consolefag.
>>739852179the pc handheld market was never big and is never going to get big, it's inherently a fucking luxury market and it financially never makes sense to buy into it unless you explicitly want the portabilitythe deck only amounts to 1% of the survey, it's fucking nothing
>>739852372>I'm not mad YOU are madHe's losing it. I am physically incapable of being mad because I always win.
>>739852009no, i'll simply ignore itbecause i'm low time preference and i don't think you get to call yourself a master race when you're no different to an impulsive nigger needing newest kicks to get cred in da hood
>>739791159Cheapest online too and the most value for it since it has a consistent library of games rather than monthly fomo to keep you subscribed.
>>739845674Tendies can only beat Nintendo games, not people.
>>739852118>5090 PC WINS at price to performance against the switch 2 and that's undisputably the worst value offering pc currently has>not having to deal with windows>close enviromentIt offer was better value in perspective. But for you it won't.
>>739852626>since it has a consistent library of gamesThe basic membership only covers NES, SNES and Gameboy games which can be emulated on anything these days. Issue is that Nintendo games that have worthwhile online are very rare as the focus is local multiplayer and the servers pure ass.
>>739853435horrible case of ESL my guyeven at its worst jeetdows is still less intrusive, overbearing and limiting than the OS on your cuck toyconsole limitations in fact subtract value to anyone with triple digit IQ
>>739853693>muh eslnot an argument
>>739854125you're right, it was an insult followed by a debunking of your retardation that you ignored all criticisms of windows apply to consoles Linux is to windows what PCs are to consoles
>>739791159The modern exclusives pale in comparison to their earlier output.
>>739854307>linux>he thinks linux is relevant to the pc landscape
>>739854376my bad, I assumed you were smarter than you are and criticising windows from a somewhat knowledgeable position but no, you're such a fucking glue eater that you're at the "PCs hard because words scary, me want toddler interface" position
>>739854538>you're at the "PCs hard because words scary, me want toddler interface" position>not "PCs sucks thanks to windows' thumb over it fucking up performance and needing compromises audiences don't really want"
>>739854638windows doesn't suck, the humiliation ritual associated with it sucks and that ritual is much worse on consoles since it takes years for functionality you have on windows day oneconsoles are the very definition of a compromise, you picked them because you're too stupid for a computer and you're choosing to replace learning with worship of corporations from your childhood
>>739854890>windows doesn't suck>self-nuking kernel OS doesn't suck
>>739855149it's not going to nuke itself if the user isn't stupid and knows how to unfuck modern windows meanwhile on consoles you literally don't control your fucking system at all, that's a worse humiliation than windows
>>739854890>consoles are the very definition of a compromise, you picked them because you're too stupid for a computer and you're choosing to replace learning with worship of corporations from your childhoodAre you stupid enough and can't realize people has both?!
>>739855295>it's not going to nuke itself if the user isn't stupid and knows how to unfuck modern windowsWindows fucks itself over time by itself.>implying the average computer user knows how to deal with winblows beyond surface level
>>739793589Half of those games are Teen-rated and one is E10.
>>739792656Don't forget wife, kids, wife's son, etc.
>>739855531having both is a sign of an intellectual compromise>>739855579any fucking idiot can follow a guide to disable updatesthat's how you use modern windows, by not updating at allthat would be the optimal way to use consoles too, since you can sideload linux on old firmware but you don't actually own them so you can't get into their guts
>>739856705Entirely subjective.
>>739856809yes, everything is subjective because there will always be a retard that disagrees
>>739856880No, it's entirely subjective on your part; you seem to be unable to deal with people having different choices than you and want them to do what you want.>everything is subjective No, a rock is hard.
The exclusive lineup actually isn't bad
>>739856968>No, a rock is hard.also relative and subjectiveto a moth a tiny twig is completely unbreakable while a toddler could easily snap it into tiny bitsyou are that moth, a retard that follows shiny lights because you're not capable of reasoning
>>739856983Some of those are on steam already.
>>739857261>also relative and subjective>denying facts
>>739857652but it's not a fact, you fucking idiotthe hardness of a rock is relative to what's trying to break it
>>739857753>the hardness of a rock is relative to what's trying to break itNo. >trying to argue for the sake of argumentThe rock is hard. What it can break is relative due factors outside of it.
>>739857821no, you're the one that's desperate to drift off topicconsoles objectively don't need to fucking exist, their functionality could be entirely absorbed by pcconsole corpos could actually contribute to the world instead of going for cancerous self propagation and abuse of retards by basing themselves on linux and simply using their devices as means to be primary markets
>>739857998>trying hard to convince anybody to do what he saysNo, it's subjective on your part.
>>739857998You are objectively correct.
>>739858131yes, i'm sure in a third world shithole with 70 average iq being 75 iq makes you a relative geniusbut here you're just a retard humiliating yourself
>>739858232>ad homNot an argument.
>>739858289it's what you deserve considering you're not even trying to make an argument
>>739858224He's factually incorrect by the fact consoles haven't been absorbed by PC in 40 years. It's rare for a device these days to be absorbed by another, not even smartphones absorbed pc or consoles.
>>739858360Still no argument, anon.
>>739858379He said could, not have. I'm only responding to that post.
>>739858420no, you simply can't fucking read because you're a moronconsoles are a manifestation of a vice, they objectively do not need to exist and the only one that benefits from their existence is the corporation that makes them
>>739791159summer eshop sale WHEN
>>739858379It's because consoles absorbed PC and found it's place, mobile found its place after AAA gaming failed their, and PC is about to become the place for indie slop like mobile is the place for gacha slop. Consoles will be the place for quality gaming.
>>739858645*its
>>739858585consoles allow you to target a single hardware spec and specific custom input devicesain't nobody gonna buy a weird $100 custom controller just to play 3 games from alternate-universe PC Nintendo
>>739858645>It's because consoles absorbed PC???you have no mods, you have no settings options, you don't control your hardware, you don't have infinite backwards compatibility, you don't choose what software you can run, you have no choice in specs and pc can use every single input method in existencepc is almost as big as all consoles combined and it'll only get bigger
>>739858581Fair enough.>>739858585>subjective negative bias>>739858645>doubling down in denialConsoles didn't absorb pc in the slightest. Your bias blinds you to accept consoles and pc aren't predatory to each other. Mobile's massive adoption proved this, as platform not as gaming like you chose to assume.
>>739858780He's saying due consoles trying to be sold under features over software but that's not consoles but ps and xbox only
>>739858780Consoles get the exact same games now, they're no longer the gimped version with less levels or gutted levers anymore. It's the full game now. PC is so dead now, KB&M is no longer the dominate control scheme for PC, consoles won.
>>739858737>single hardware specoptimisation doesn't exist and hardware within a generation is self similar, the 5090, 5080, 5070ti, 5060ti, 5050 all use the same exact architecture and don't require per card babysitting>specific custom input devicesyou can have that on pc too?if anything if someone started making specialty games it would be a lot fucking cheaper to just sell controllers than the entire fucking console>weird $100 custom controllerthat controller has pretty much everything one could want out of a controllermeanwhile all the first party controllers are designed to kill themselves and make money on selling new ones
>>739858932>Consoles get the exact same games now, they're no longer the gimped version with less levels or gutted levers anymore.tbf that was the case for PC in the early 00s as well. They used to get shit versions of console releases, even if the game was a licensed multiplat.
>>739858851>Your bias blinds you to accept consoles and pc aren't predatory to each otherThey never were, but PC lards always picked fights with us console players. It was only a matter of time before we came shitting on PC eventually.
>>739858932>Consoles get the exact same games now, they're no longer the gimped version with less levels or gutted levers anymore.no? they're missing all of the fucking features cited? are you illiterate or just dumb?
>>739859002I find hilarious how their "arguments" are always the same... and it's only subjective crap. But then again those are vegans, real PC chads are above them with ease
>>739858968you have no idea all the alternate code paths PC games build into their executable to provisionally take advantage of instruction sets that only some people's PCs will haveoptimising low level engine code can be a nightmarebut then again>optimisation doesn't existi shouldn't have written this at all because you're a fucking retard
>>739859136>optimisation is real i swearno, you're getting the same performance but consoles are simply cutting down the resolution and upscaling
>>739859108Man, I hate Vegans so much, I can't wait for the Nintendo vs Sony console wars though, going to be fun watching to handheld consoles going against each other again. Nintendo needs the competition. I'm going to get both while I watch both fans fight.
>>739859213you're too ignorant to comprehend how you're wrong, so let's move on to the other advantage of proprietary closed platforms: guaranteed presence of unique input methods
>>739859219>Sony fucking bring exclusive games to their platform and the playstation finally has games to play>Nintendo has aline up of exclusives>both fighting over the purchaseAs god intended.
>>739859297no, your standards are simply lower as a fucking consolecuck so you think there's nothing wrong with comparing native pc to upscaled console performance>guaranteed presence of unique input methodsyou know what's easier to guarantee? selling games when all you need to sell is a special controller rather than an entire consolebut console corpos are explicitly in it to control their goycattle audience
>>739859373nobody is buying an expensive custom controller to play 3 PC games that all come out a year apart you'll probably mention HOTAS or racing wheels but those aren't even standardisedt. steamlord
>>739859053>he thinks gaming is about featuresThis has been never true. Only ones that could believe this are pc only but they were shaped into that by coping. The one time a consoles tried to make its selling point features they nosedived into the floplands
>>739859373>your standards are simply lower as a fucking consolecucktotally nothing subjective, right?
>>739859484it would be way easier for nintendo to sell a $50 controller that lets you play games on their storefront than it is to sell a $500 console with gtx 1050 tier performance>>739859514i know, consoles are about consooming and never questioning anything>>739859570no, objectiveyour tendie toy's gpu performance is on par with a gtx 1050 and it costs $450a 5090 prebuilt can be had for about $5kthat 5090 beats your measly tendie toy's performance by a margin of 19 times while costing only 11 times as much
>>739859890>it would be way easier for nintendo to sell a $50 controller that lets you play games on their storefront than it is to sell a $500 console with gtx 1050 tier performancehe says as the Switch 2 is continually breaking sales records even in an economic downturn
>>739859890>i know, consoles are about consooming and never questioning anything>says this while consuming when buying pc parts
>>739859890>no, objective>your tendie toy's gpu performance is on par with a gtx 1050 and it costs $450>a 5090 prebuilt can be had for about $5k>that 5090 beats your measly tendie toy's performance by a margin of 19 times while costing only 11 times as muchAgain; subjective. You're hellbent in measuring game system under parameters that are not for game systems. I don't have a switch.
>>739859949Aaaaand here comes the vegan cope
>>739860119>vegan???stay mad lmao4k60 raytracing is not gameplay
>>739859949>he says as the Switch 2 is continually breaking sales records even in an economic downturnwe were talking about inputs, remember?it's easier to sell just a controller and expect people to use it with existing hardwarethey're just not doing it because the target is control, not actually selling games>says this while consuming when buying pc partsbut buying parts is in fact about questioning things, you choose what you wantthat choice is completely absent with consoles>Again; subjective. You're hellbent in measuring game system under parameters that are not for game systems. I don't have a switch.so value doesn't matter when consoles lose to literally the least cost effective option on pc?
>>739860164>they don't do it because it's about control>but they should do it because it's easierthen why isn't anyone who isn't obsessed with control capitalising on this market?
>>739860161>stay mad lmaot.
>>739860304i have a good pc and i'm watching a retard flail, why would i be mad?
>>739860225you tell me, even the console corpos gave up on unique controllers
>>739860404explain how haptic triggers, touchpads, HD rumble, and gyro being variously exclusive to each platform except for dogshit Xbox is not the same as unique fixed vendor-specific gamepad standards
>>739860506you can't make a game out of those singular features
>>739860339I have a pc as well and I'm watching a vegan seething about consoles endlessly. ofc I'm not mad
>>739860641so a game which requires and is built around a unique type of input which requires a unique controller does not require a unique input standard?
>>739860927>unique type of inputnigger, vibration is not a fucking input, turn it off and you lose nothing besides the part where you cum slower when you put it in your ass
>>739860974>mention gyro>get a reply babbling about vibrationretard
>>739861006two out of four of the features you mentioned are vibrationsomething that isn't an inputare you legitimately this retarded?
>>739861079HD rumble is a whole other subject that you lack the discernment and intelligence to comprehend because good HD rumble can communicate information that can't be communicated through video or audio output, which means its absence in a game that uses it properly would be like playing counterstrike on mutebut we could talk about the features that are more easily related to existing input standards to make it easier on you, such as gyro
>>739861216>i am le 2smrt4u but i can't name situations where vibration actually does the pseudointellectual shit i'm describing>such as gyroso we're down to a feature that has no bearing on the size, shape or layout of the controller and is not even used because it's easier to stick ridiculous aim assist everywheregreat show there
>>739861663>if the controller is the same shape then it's the sameretard
>>739861712gyro could be in every single controller in existence and they wouldn't have to really change anything about itit's not unique, especially not fucking console seller level of unique
