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This game is genuinely fucking dogshit, and I have no fucking clue how thousands of people keep playing this shit on a daily basis.
Truly a testament of how Vermintide was lightning in a bottle, Fatshark is one of the most incompetent Swedish developers and I'm tired of hearing from dopamine-fried addicts that keep playing the same maps over and over again and try to sell the game as "fun" to anyone that isn't a braindamaged fucking freak like them.
With this being said, considering the new cinematic for the tabletop came out a few hours ago (with none other than the God Emperor himself), what are the best MODERN 40k games you can play right now?
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>>739966946
darktide
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>GW slop
Stockholm syndrome
Sunk cost fallacy
Both
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>>739966946
bruh's cortisol levels are through the roof
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>>739967180
fpbp
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fuck fatshark
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>>739966946
Uh oh someone got filtered out by heresy again
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>>739966946
a down grade from vermintide perfection, but its fine. i dont get the 100+ hour guys but its fun to get to 30 now wit hthe 2 campagins and little inbetween missions.

best MODERN 40k game is Space Marine 2.
Or mechanicus if you want tactics
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>>739966946
Darktide is right now infinitely better than Vermintide ever was.
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>>739969024
>Space Marine 2
It's truly disheartening that I need to get cyberAIDS (kernel level anticheat) to play this
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>>739968701
I just got my char to 30 and tried a couple missions on Heresy for the first time. What in the fuck. It felt like the enemy density is tripled from Malice. I was playing a dual uzi Hivescum and when I would desperado we were able to make progress and clear out hordes. But if I was off cooldown my teammates were just hacking and hacking away with little gain.

That was a massive jump in difficulty and not really fun.
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>>739969024
Is it any better nowadays? At launch it had less variety and more bugs than Darktide.
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>>739969352
lol
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>>739969410
is space marine better? yeah, i haven't had any issues. i dont sink 100s of hours though. I played the campaign, then the online mode to play the mirror campaign. tried the game modes once each, it was fun. tech marine is neat.
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>>739966946
For me, it's fags propping up the melee system. I've seen more than a couple posts say it is the literal best fps melee ever. And when I tried it... just swinging a whiffle bat with a grimdark texture. Boggles the mind.
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>>739969604
its the best melee combat speaking in terms of left 4 dead like 4 player coop vania horde shooter borne lites
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>>739969727
That's like being the best retard at chess
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>>739970158
Only a retard would complain about a genre they don't enjoy playing.
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>>739969604
sounds more like you swung a few times and didn't try to understand anything... or you are baiting for engagement.
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>>739966946
Installed it one months ago, I'm at 45h now. Game is fun. I rank it at the same level than Vermintide.
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What weapons will skitarii get to use besides their class specific ones?
Plasma gun for sure right? Maybe lasguns too but that feels more intrinsic to guardsmen.
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>>739969352
Lol

For real though are you keeping up with your masteries? Did you upgrade your weaps to max? Talents?
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>>739969352
keep playing heresy, and once it gets easy enough to survive then go jump to damnation
you'll eventually get good enough to matrix dodge every enemy 90% of the time and you'll react to audio cues more than visuals. at that point you'll only get enjoyment from the game by surviving brutal high difficulty situations
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>>739970626
Several flavors of galvanic rifles.
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>>739969352
The problem Darktide has is that the lower difficulties enable absolutely horrible habits that fuck you up in the higher difficulties.
Face tanking, improper weapon combos, bad positioning and poor aim aren’t truly punished, until suddenly they are and a new player just gets raped.
The best advice I can give is to pick the absolute worst weapons you can find and play the highest difficulty you can manage until you’re forced to learn the fundamentals.
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>>739970626
we know they get access to the vet power swords but that's all I've heard
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>4 bucks class dlc for vermintide
>15 bucks dlc for darktide
That 40k tax is ridiculous.
>but they're on sale right now!
35% arbitres, 25% hive scum. Still too fucking much.
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>>739970626
>infantry lasgun
>infantry autogun
>laspistol
>bolt pistol
>generic shock maul
>mauler
>combat axe
>tac axe
Except the class weapons will be overpowered so there's no reason to use generic weapons as self imposed challenges.
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>>739969352
your build might be a bit fucked, or your teammates were not as good as you are, with the same issue.
as difficulty gets higher being tanky means less.
You are slowly put into a position where being skilled enough to not get hit means more and more, and building towards your class's equivalent of "glass cannon" offers you more and more... but requires more skill, again.

Fatshark games have a very high skill ceiling, but you can get to higher levels of it just by being diligent.
Havok though... havok is where they separate monsters and men from children and babies.
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>>739971024
If you want to be fair, a single darktide character is equivalent to three vermintide careers
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>>739969352
heresy is unironically harder than auric because thats where all the shitters abide
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>>739969352
>play the high skill floor class that eats dirt the instant you fuck up
>get raped in higher difficulty because he's still learning the game
lmao
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>>739970918
nta but you speak true.
One thing that forever gimps me is being unable to hear that sound the game makes to warn you that someone is swinging at your back.
Time and pain beat the sounds of the enemy into me, aim and some positioning followed... but it really all comes back to getting hit.

You cannot make getting hit a habit.
Ever.
No matter what class.
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>>739971210
Yeah but it's like that for every difficulty except aurics and like havoc 40. Damnation is full of auric washouts and the havoc trench is painful
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>>739967180
This.
The game sucks but it's still the best 40K game available.
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>>739971081
I still like grinding and min maxing all the weapons anyway if it's a class I like.
Surely one day they will buff autoguns.
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>>739971371
braced autogun my beloved...
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>>739971210
>>739971335
oh if that shit is going on as well he is doubly fucked.

I saw that same thing in WoW mythics (which was worse because raider IO could forever taint you with the mark of a shitter if you played with brazilians too much)
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>>739971408
still fun on desperado scum
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>>739969352
1. you're playing hiv scum. you're a glass cannon. you aren't good at the game yet so you make mistakes, every mistake is punished hard when you're hiv scum
2. you're not good at the game because low difficulties unfortunately teach you bad habits and don't explain well why those habits are bad. so when you reach high difficulties it's not easy to even understand what you're doing wrong. the best thing you can do right now is exposure therapy, keep playing high difficulties and it'll come to you naturally
3. heresy is the worst difficulty in terms of players who share the lobby with you. go to damnation and i'm telling you it will unironically seem easier simply because the teammates are much better
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>>739966946
Darktide is better than Vermintide at everything
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>>739969352
cute. Make sure to let us know when you try maelstrom for the first time.
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>>739969352
You must be deep into unc territory if Heresy is giving you issues.
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>>739971449
It's too late I've become a revolver zelaor chad
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>>739971371
They reduced Crusher spawn rate so you're not griefing as hard by bringing autoguns nowadays, but it's Infantry Lasguns and Vigilant Autoguns that remain in the dumpster. Scum had a thing going for the Infantry Autogun until fartshart gutted ranged Scum with the Pickpocket nerf.
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>>739969352
I wish I was you. I've played this game so much that I'm completely indifferent to difficulty. Everything below damnation feels like nothing's happening and I could go sleep. The only time I feel alive is when the team is dead and I have to clutch. Rest feels like autopilot.
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>>739971586
>worse cast
>worse map diversity
>worse melee combat
>worse game modes
>worse enemy design
>giga greedy shop
>somehow even worse version of weaves
>definitely worse version of chaos wastes
>bots so retarded they die on anything higher than malice
>constant disconnects before mission finishes
the only thing it manages well is music, that's literally it
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>>739971712
they "gutted" scum by making the infinite ammo talent slightly less infinite? shut the fuck up
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>>739971535
hivescum isnt quite a glass cannon, but it works best when built that way.
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>>739971943
vermintide doesnt have knife zealot so it loses by default
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>>739966946
40k fans will eat up anything.
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>>739972119
what do you mean?
we have elf, she dies just as fast
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>>739971712
Infantry lasgun deserves love but it's rough when it has to compete with recon.
Vigilant I just don't understand the point of. Don't tend to care for burst fire guns in general though.
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>>739972183
I don't think that's true.
Firewarrior is still notoriously bad, and even half decent games like Speed Freaks get no traction.
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>come back to game after a while
>forgot I could load my shotgun with slugs
twins where a pain
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>>739971983
They only gutted ranged Scum who wants to do nothing but hold down LMB the whole match, since they now need to kill elites in melee to get their ammo back. It still works but ammo management makes it more unfun to just spray on the class initially designed around spraying bullets, breaking up your momentum to go hunt down an elite to brain.
In comparison, melee Scum is much more braindead now especially since Rampage has no downside, and Pickpocket nerf does nothing for them since they pull out their needle gun/revolver just to pop a distant special.
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>>739972202
I see youve never played one. If you know you know. Stealth zealot is actually insanely fun unlike shade (shite). Basically imagine an elf on a permanent speed pot with 15 sec invis cd
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>>739972271
>Online only
>Niche genre
>Orks only (instant skip for tourists)
Real shame, in a perfect world it would've gotten a big enough budget to at least have a single player campaign and be the Ork Twisted Metal it wanted to be.
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>>739971308
This isn't even a Darktide issue. It applies to all the tide games.

My introduction to the tide series was late into Vermintide 2's existence, where I had to sink or swim after being thrown into the deep end of the pool while playing Chaos Wastes on Legend difficulty with some friends. After that, I went back to grind some levels and work on my very spotty understanding of the game's fundamentals, and i discovered to my shock that basically everything under Champion might as well be a different game because of how totally non-threatening everything was, and even Champion was a joke compared to Legend or Cataclysm. I was legitimately struggling to get any value out of playing lower difficulties because of how boring it was and how none of the many mistakes I made (that I *knew* were mistakes because of my experiences on higher difficulty) were meaningfully punished. Darktide just inherited the exact same problem, aggravated by the fact that you can just shoot everything on low difficulties and not engage with melee combat at all.
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>>739972483
anon I don't care for Zealots with letter openers
they were obnoxious faggots before skil rework and got even more obnoxious after rework
for every 50 knife faggots you have ONE player who can clutch, the rest die from rushing ahead or get overwhelmed
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>>739970918
>pick the absolute worst weapons you can find and play the highest difficulty you can manage
That's kind of what I did, I stopped playing the Hivescum, went back to a low level Zealot and did nothing except learn melee and avoided using ranged damage as much as possible. Still learning.

But I'm getting distracted by how zany some of these weapons are. I have a fairly maxed out combat knife now and the fucking movement and attack speed is monstrous. It feels like I'm playing faster than whatever my fastest and most agile character in Warframe was (Wukong? i cant remember it's been years).
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>>739972695
nta but block and dodge, build for 3 toughness with 3 stamina regen boons, slide to avoid gunner fire and use cover appropriately.
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>>739972695
That's why I love the event going on. You go fast as fuck boy
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>>739972689
dont care. Nothing will be more kino than sprinting behind a crusher before he can even finish his swing and onetapping it like its some anime shit. Vermintide is obnoxiously slow and I cant go back to it
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I would fucking love an option to bind a key that just spams light attack.

No, I don't want a mod for it. I want the base game support such basic ass usability feature.
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should i buy arbites or hive scum?
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>>739974419
Are you bad at the game? Arbites
Are you good at the game? HIV cum
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>>739974507
arbites it is then
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>>739974419
Arbites: tanky, strong, BORING
Hive Scum: high octane, squishy, BASED
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>>739969179
sweet copium from a 40kid
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did they add any new staves to psyker yet
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>>739966946
>4 years later
>still no singleplayer mode with bots only
>BUT IT'S A COOP GAME!!!!!
The Darktigger screams out in pain as he strikes you.
People unironically believe this GaaSlop funded by Tencent is better than a game that can be played from start to finish in its entirety solo with bots.
40k niggers really are a fucking cult.
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It could have been so good
WHY THE FUCK HAVE THEY NOT ADDED MORE MISSIONS
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>>739975134
>40k niggers really are a fucking cult.
every single criticism aimed at darktide is immediately met with
>play something harder than heresy
>lol shittercope
>post your havoc level
>cope ratfag tranny jeetoid
>[my favorite eceleb] says this game is better than vermintide, so dilate tranny
they're not a cult because it's not 40k the issue, coop players on this website are just unhinged autistic retards
i had to quit the /coopg/ general because a dedicated group of faggots managed to kick every other game out

>>>/vm/2528900
>>>/vm/2528697
>>>/vg/568899169
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Mad
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>>739966946
>With this being said, considering the new cinematic for the tabletop came out a few hours ago (with none other than the God Emperor himself),
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0hD3KBwoiA

HOLY FUCKING KINOOOOO
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you cant just keep calling everything you dont like a tranny
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>>739966946
>(with none other than the God Emperor himself)
damn you weren't trolling
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Jesper Kyd does not get enough praise. The soundtrack is on another level

https://youtu.be/uPma1Zt9WxQ?si=jW5c0Kiszbs9PQ4R
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>>739976243
>>739976072
>finally moving the plot forward
bros..?
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>>739966946
>This game is genuinely fucking dogshit, and I have no fucking clue how thousands of people keep playing this shit on a daily basis.
I picked this game up a bit ago since I've been hearing good things about it and it was on humble bundle monthly but yea. It's genuinely so shit that anyone claiming this trash is good makes any other game recommendation worse by association.
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>>739976323
>random chants and organs mixed with electronic music
40k fags are easy to please
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FOR THE MASTER OF MANKiiiiIIIIIND
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>>739976337
Oh really? Did Gulliman and the lion finally meet?
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>>739976414
Listen to his other stuff across other games it's all amazing. Vermintide wouldn't be the same without his stuff too. Why are you being such a hipster contrarian faggot lol
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I enjoy the game greatly, I just wish it had more mission variety.
And yeah it's brutally difficult but that's what makes it fun.
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>>739975772
You are effeminate and weak.
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>>739966946
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>>739975134
do you not have friends or something? why does every co op shooter need bots? that is straight up a third worlder shitter cope for having bad internet and nobody to play with
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>>739976706
>do you not have friends or something?
no
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>>739976571
kek the most popular darktide eceleb is a literal crossdresser
and yet you >>>/vg/568959375
>>739976706
>IT'S A COOP GAME WHY DONT YOU HAVE FRIENDS? WHY DO YOU NEED BOTS? NO I DONT CARE EVERY OTHER COOP GAME ON THE MARKET HAS THEM
like clockwork.
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>>739969352
kek the absolute state of /v/
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>>739969352
most skilled dorktide hater
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>>739970918
Cant stand playing with people below Damnation. You get the weirdest, lobotomized players you will ever see. Being a servitor would be a tall order for some of these people.
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>>739966946
Outside this website, Reddit is a hugbox and the Steam forums are all Russians or Brazilians begging for friends.
We all know it sucks, we'll just never admit it and instead just insult whoever brings it up.
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>>739977410
t. doesnt use medicae to get better defense score
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>>739977479
its more of veterans who insist on only using their ranged weapon, run out of ammo and probably complain the game is bad because they have to melee in a tide game
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>>739975134
Just quick play diggity dog. The community is generally really nice and you can just ping or type instead of talking
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>>739977650
>The community is generally really nice
This is what Darktiggers tell themselves, as they kick people for breathing in the wrong direction.
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>>739977650
>ping or type instead of talking
I have a bit over 100 hours played and I don't think I've ever heard someone talking over the mic, nor in 500 hours of VT2.
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>>739977729
You can't kick at the difficulties that guy is playing on though. He'll be fine.
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>>739977729
ive never seen anyone get kicked in a random queue game and ive seen retards you wouldnt believe
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>>739966946
The only place you can give feedback is the forum, and it's full of all kinds of schizos
You can’t go five minutes without seeing some faggot with literally cancer bragging everywhere that he’s a beta player and got carried to havoc 40
I don't know which one will die first, him or this game, but I'd be happy to see either
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>>739977771
>>739977786
>umm no it's not true darktide welcomes every gender identity xir!!!
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>>739966946
babbie got filtered by Damnation
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>>739970626
>plasma gun

They're getting the plasma culverin aren't they? Those are better than plasma guns on account of they're capable of burst and auto fire.
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>>739977807
>e-peening faggotry in a coop game
What made me uninstall basically every coop game in existence save for DRG and Payday 2, which I exclusively play with my irl mates when we get pissed.
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>>739969352
>>739977870
I fucking told you without even reading the thread bnahahahahahaha buncha fucking dumb ass NIGGERS and not even by damnation for that matter.
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>>739977847
You're too afraid to play with people and I'M the tranny? What are we even doing man
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>>739977946
shoo shoo, dont you have a scoreboard to rush the map for
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ah sweet a /vg/ schizo meltie
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I played about 50h of the game. Melee combat isn't too complex but it feels fantastic, same with most ranged weapons. Also, all classes except Ogryn are fun to play. However, playing the same dozen maps over and over is slowly draining my desire to play.
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>>739978015
This game is better left alone or enjoyed quietly by yourself, any attempt at trying to talk about it in here ends in shitposting and namecalling.
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>>739978053
>all classes except Ogryn are fun to play.
but ogryn is the most fun class to play thoughever
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>>739966946
because they are extremely mentally ill
shooters/ranged units do not belong in horde games
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>>739966946
I hate the game indirectly because of the goysloppers on the /vg/ co-op general that seem to only ever want to discuss this game than anything else and become incredibly offended when someone points it out
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>>739976415
>BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR!
>SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!

I love my Irish preacher zealot, but come on man, it's shit like this that got you accused of heresy.
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>>739978053
try to guess how many maps vermintide 2 has
it plays exactly the same as darktide minus sprinting and sliding like a pavement monkey
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>>739978095
because its the only coop game that has players
post an EDF lobby and im THERE bro
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>>739978091
>four ogryns
>TARD SQUAD DEPLOYED!

Peak Datktide
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>>739978168
retard
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>>739972183
Most 40k fans will tell you Dawn of War was their only good game. /v/edditors are not human
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>>739966946
>learn psyker
>game becomes too ez
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>>739978168
>EDF
You just gave an example of a co op game that does have players and lobbies up though.
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The devs don't play any difficulty above Auric. They streamed themselves attempting havoc 20-ish and just constantly died.
On top of that swedes are retarded.
But not to worry goy, purchase our GeorgeDroid class for $12 next month and all will be well!

Everyone should abandon this game for at least another year until they fix the obvious problems in H40 they've been told about 100x over.
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>>739978330
>just another year bro one more year bro please bro 365 more days bro 12 more months bro please
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i have 300 hours in the game and exclusively play on heresy

no i will NOT move up to a higher difficulty
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>>739966946
>fucked up optimization
>FOMO rotation shop
>shizo elitist community
>game balanced based on those shizos
stay away from this trash and play any other coop game instead
>t.havoc 40 player
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>>739966946
why is it bad?

t. boughted but still not launched
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>>739978458
finally words of wisdom and not trannycore schizo drivel
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>>739978379
do whatever you want, if you dont own it absolutely dont buy it, im just saying they're not gonna fix it anytime soon
problem is there are no good games in this genre other than vermintide with an active playerbase
>left for de...
overrun with 3rd worlders, not enjoyable in the slightest anymore
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>>739978593
Vermintide 2 still has players on the higher difficulties, a dedicated autistic group of people still play cata and above.
So does VT1 technically, but the game is full of cheaters.
However neither really requires people, since they can be played solo with bots you fucking nigger retard.
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>>739978458
>game balanced based on those shizos
actually the problem is they do not listen to the h40 players at all, if they did we'd have more than 3 maps per week and this horrible "rank" system would've been removed years ago since it adds nothing to the game
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How's spess muhreen 2?
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>>739978673
>a dedicated autistic group of people still play cata and above.
yes, im well aware
solo is very very boring imo, i rather just play another game at that point
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>>739978676
funny you brought that up, those elitist faggots don't even play h40, they admit it themselves
that's the worst part
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>>739978708
Boring and the combat doesn't feel good
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>>739978708
The campaign is good but it is insanely repetitive and shallow as a co-op grind game.
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>>739978504
darktide is vermintide except they added ranged units
this turns the game into a cover-based shooter at the highest difficulties, which is not what a horde shooter should be

also, many bad design decisions
an example is a "special surge", a mechanic where sometimes the director AI can determine to spawn specials for ~2 minutes constantly, meaning no matter how many you kill, the map will always have the same number loaded by respawning new ones as fast as you kill them
therefore, the optimal play when you notice a special surge is to NOT shoot and kill specials.... in a horde shooter.....
many havoc modifiers are also just objectively not fun: darkness, inferno, blight, rotten armor, garden, etc. (that they just had to nerf because so many people quit the game over)
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>>739978504
It's been a year and a half since the last proper new map. The newest mode, expeditions was a total flop. Their current strategy is to release new classes every six months for the foreseeable future, meaning existing classes get jack squat when they are in desperate need of new weapons.
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>>739979095
but /coopg/ told me expeditions are better than chaos wastes because they are infinite content?
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>>739979174
that was me
i was trolling you
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>>739966946
>what are the best MODERN 40k games you can play right now?
the entire IP is owned by subversive jews living in england, they hate you, and design the entire IP around manchildren uncs buying plastic dolls that they PAY to PAINT themselves
there is nothing here for any self-respecting man, go enjoy something else
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>>739969352
>on Heresy for the first time
lmao play Auric Maelstrom
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>>739979245
>pic
How much real money does it cost to look like this in Darktide? :^)
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>>739970626
>besides their class specific ones
everything energy-based for sure, MAYBE the bolt pistol but i really doubt it
for melee, probably just the dueling sword, power swords, shock maul and shivs
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>>739979330
zero aquillas because it doesn't exists
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>>739969352
Darktide is literally baby tier easy on every difficulty but super auric damnation where theres 20 specials on the map at once. How are you getting filtered by fucking Heresy?
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>>739979087
>this turns the game into a cover-based shooter at the highest difficulties
This is wrong and a bad idea in almost every circumstance.
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>>739970626
None of the above because none of the current existing weapons are Admech patterns. FW produced yes, but not sanctioned for use.
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>>739972483
>Stealth zealot
if i see you playing this i'm going to bait a burster into you, assuming you're ever actually within a fucking mile of the team
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>>739979418
>How are you getting filtered by fucking Heresy?
bad build or he's afraid of having only 2 wounds
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>>739966946
vermintide wasn't good either
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>>739979652
Vermintide was a flawed masterpiece.
Darktide is just bad.
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>>739979087
no mods to fix it or shit like that? i like the atmosphere of the game, seems like wasted potential
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>>739979787
uohhh...
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did they make a class that can carry 2 different guns yet? I'm not interested in 1st person melee slop.
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Tried this game, even level 30 veteran and went back to helldivers 2. Blocking is not fun. Positioning and movement is funner to avoid damage.
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What are some fun builds for the classes to play without being a burden to my team?
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>>739969352
>Playing Malice to lvl 30
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>>739980659
getting good
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>>739975134
Friendly reminder that swiggers literally promised to add solo lobbies, it was like 2 years ago and it's still in one of the steam announcements. Yet you'll get nothing. Fatshark more like Fartshart.
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>>739979505
Lmao good luck with that, I'm fatmaxing, that buster will take like 10% of my healthbar.
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>>739978504
refund before it's too late
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>havoclets
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>>739981676
Havoc is friendslop. I stopped caring at around Tier 36 because every other pug I joined couldn't make it through.
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>tide players are the type of nigger that will leave a negative review after playing 5000 hours

Like bruh if you don't like fatshart drop the game.
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I feel like Vermintide was a lot more engaging than Darktide. Darktide is great, but so many encounters could just be handled by spamming dodges and heavy melees.
Not saying Vermintide required really complicated inputs but I felt like anytime a monstrosity spawned there was more engagement, the monsters in darktide just feel like retarded health bloat.
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I understand why Vermintide was melee based but why the fuck would you do that for a 40k game?
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I'm really bad at this game and overwhelmed by the density with all the classes and build and shit...

The world and music is cool tho
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>>739969352
>heresy
>massive jump in difficulty
Lol. LMFAO! Maybe videogames isn't the hobby for you anon. Try knitting.
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>>739982575
Its different if the game eventually became shit but if this game was garbage since day 1, why are you putting 1k+ hours into it?
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I think the only thing that really bothered me was that on the havoc levels it was very hit or miss with who I got on my team and I was very limited in builds that I could run because I would be forced to be a lot of utility/babysitting. The fucking split second I don't run a utility build then the team I get will have a massive gap that can't be filled.
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>>739969352
So play on Malice more until you know what the fuck you're doing. Too many retards just go up in difficulty despite being shit at the game. Fine by me since it's fun carrying them, but if you're getting frustrated, just focus on gitting gud first.
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>>739972036
It definitely is. It's just that even glass cannons in DT still need to have some survivability. Psyker still gets a decent bit of sustain
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>>739982575
Some of us leave negative reviews for games like this to act as a filter.
Its what I did personally for arma 3.
Arma 3 is the kind of game you DONT want someone relying on reviews to waste money on.
You need to be the right kind of person to enjoy it properly.
Similar shit with higher level stuff in vermintide and darktide.
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>>739984052
what's he thinking right now?
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>>739984089
He's thinking about what everyone is jerking off to, all at once.
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>>739984089
big water caste tau milkers
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>>739984089
>Man, I should have listened to that fucking elf.
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>>739984089
>No flash photography, please
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>>739984052
>Why did Horus chose sea green?
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>>739966946
darktide is much more enjoyable than vermintide, combat is actually satisfying
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>>739978095
I've had perfectly fine discussions about other coop games there over the years. But the tide games really do the best at retaining players over time.
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>>739978330
>still playing Havoc 40
I went back to Aurics. High havoc is just fucking gay. No, I don't want to endure the hassle of party finder to play your poorly balanced shitmode for which only a handful of weapons are viable.
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>>739978708
It's okay. Tedious grind to have weapons that feel slightly less limp to use and dodge/parry indicators that sometimes do and sometimes don't line up with the actual timing. If you don't mind spongey enemies and indicators that you should ignore except for knowing which button you have to press, then you might like it. I still enjoy it every so often, but I can't play it with anywhere near the frequency of Darktide.
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>>739976243
In trailer that's just his statue. Which is lame as fuck. In universe statues of the big E used to be the grim reaper. Such a waste of a setting.
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>>739982686
Retard tier post
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>>739982686
darktide isn't melee based.
its a hybrid of shooter and melee, more so than vermintide was.
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>>739982686
because all the characters have guns in darktide
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>>739985795
Some psykers dont
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>>739982686
40k has so much melee shit going on in the actual tabletop and in basically every game ever made for the setting. Is your only exposure little dark age edits on instagram or something?
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>>739984052
>screams at Horus
>wasn't actually screaming at Horus, but the chaos gods who were present
>acts as if what had just happened was never foreseen

So did Emps officially in cannon make a deal with the chaos gods and then felt betrayed?
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>>739971943
>Worst combat
Better than space marine 2.
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>>739970918
Why are there even worst weapons? Shit game
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>>739969352
I bought during the sale and also hit 30 recently and you're either a dumbass or jumping into quickplay with shitters. Learn to dodge dance and do proper weapon combos. Hive Scum is also the worst class so stop being a liability and level something else ASAP.
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>>739988549
>Hive Scum is also the worst class
hive scum is extremely OP
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Darktide is great but Crushers are broken and unfun to deal with especially if nobody on your team is a krak grenade vet or a bazooka guy

also the game lacks content but their answer is shitty wave modes and extraction shooter modes
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>>739971535
skip heresy and go to damnation lol
this always annoys me when people say it because YOU HAVE TO CLEAR HERESY MISSIONS TO UNLOCK DAMNATION
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>>739988940
One of the latest updates tried to tone down amount of crushers but make them beefier
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Having enemies serve no purpose other than a gear check is pretty bullshit and a bad mechanic
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>>739989115
>YOU HAVE TO CLEAR HERESY MISSIONS TO UNLOCK DAMNATION
this shit makes leveling a new character so annoying, it should just be level based, and arguably they should let you skip the first difficulty if you've already done it

the first like 5-10 hours with skitarii are going to be sleepwalking through EZ mode
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>>739988940
Crushers are fine. They're just a build check, and all classes have numerous ways to handle them. If people are unable to handle Crushers without their blitzes, it's a build/skill issue. Always bring at least one weapon that handles them decently.
Bulwarks are far more irritating due to how shitty the shield hitbox is and the fact that they can all stack up inside of one another. Maybe those are the ones you meant, in which case, I don't really disagree.
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>>739989404
nta but no crushers are stupid, they're reskinned CW's with a 1 shot overhead (unless ogryn or zealot) that really doesn't have a reason to be in the game, there is no justifiable reason its not just insta-down instead of insta-dead
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>>739990274
is that on havoc? i don't recall crushers one-hit killing you on auric
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>>739990274
It is an insta-down. The only time they can insta-kill is on Havoc with melee damage causing corruption.
>1 shot overhead
That is easily dodged. It's not an issue and one of the only truly threatening things in melee in this game. They just punish mistakes very hard. There're reasons people rec Arby or Zealot to new players, and among those is that each of those classes has a way of not getting immediately downed from full by a single Mauler/Crusher overheads.
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>>739966946
Vermintide hooked me way more with better map design, stamina and resource usage, dodges, builds, circle strafe, corners, ranged weapons for specials.

Darktide i can just spam aoe lightning and my team cleaves through stuff and I drop a bubble if shit gets rough, why even brain burst, shit is ass. Sienna fireballs were more engaging lobbing them than spam chain lightning.

Shooting one very specific type of lasgun at the hordes heads while occasionally shooting a special gets dull.
Ogryns skills are nice and its back to simple melee but you are just a tank that improves peoples survivability through your passive stuff.
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>>739990493
Vermintide 1 and 2 were quest driven and it made the maps make sense. Darktide doesn't have any sort of progression when you first run through each map. None that sticks at least. The African accented lady is also absurdly out of place.
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>YOU JUST HIT LVL 30 AND AREN'T ON AURICS, WHAT A FAGGOT HAHAHAHAHA

I've never met any W40k tabletop players IRL but some of you ITT remind of the 6'2 obese Magic the Gathering players who must fit Blue into every single deck they play, have AT LEAST 6 planeswalkers in their deck and literally cannot stop talking about themselves.
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>>739990612
Shut up you gay faggot
IRL nobody is autistic as they are online
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>>739990493
>darktide is bad because i ruin it for myself with smite

you ruin it for your party too
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>>739979087
have a (you) its nice to see people get filtered.
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>>739990612
if you're this guy >>739979087
it's more that you don't really know what you're talking about because you play it at a low diff
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>ruins your run
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>>739990906
>rocks his run
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>>739990906
i didnt think ragers looked so retarded up close
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>>739985198
>got filled by havoc
kek, do stay in braindead mode little whiny faggot
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>>739966946
>Truly a testament of how Vermintide was lightning in a bottle
Pretty much. I have no idea what people see in this slop over V2,let alone L4D.
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oink oink
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>>739991128
(you)
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>>739991314
first class i'm going to buy (not deluxe though lol), hope it's fun
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>>739991314
Day 1 purchase :)
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>>739991314
That cog tooth power sword skin looks fucking sick. Also Arc Rifle, my beloved.
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I wish Darktide and Vermintide were fun to play solo.
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>>739979087
Have you tried dodging?
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the ogryn are pretty cool
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>>739991314

The narrative doesn't make sense, they keep bringing new factions to secure Atoma and in the end they dont do shit.
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>>739990480
its a dogshit decision, adds nothing to the gameplay, is a verifiable bad decision by crusher 1shot NOT existing in vermintide with the enemy CWs having the exact same animations, and only exists because the devs copy/paste 500 things from the chaos mobs into darktide and wanted to make something "different"
>just dodge it!
yeah, no shit retard, its not hard to, you're completely missing my point
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>>739966946
Ever since they released Vermintide 2 in a horrible state and then went "lol sorry we have to take two months off for Christmas" I've fucking hated Fatshark
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>>739992481
>JUST DODGE
>game is completely dead forcing you to play on EU servers with 200ms ping because of bad design decisions killing the game
>....
>JUST DODGE!
i did, i dodged this dogshit game after 500hrs and h40 clears on all non-paypig clases desperately trying to like it after it killed vermintide playerbase
let me know when they start listening to the people who actually play higher difficulties instead of auric-shitters
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>>739992823
>>game is completely dead
are you NA? i play on NA servers when it's too late in EU and I find a match easily
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>>739992726
You don't have a point. All you did was cry about being 1-hit. A rare enemy slamming a huge slow weapon down and punishing people who fail to dodge isn't the problem you make it out to be.
>but Vermintide
is a different game, retard. You can't tank hits in Vermintide like you can in Darktide, so punishing fuck-ups also works differently.
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>>739992903
my point is its different in a bad way, ie the game is bad and this is one of many examples, vermintide is better, and they should go back to the vermintide design principles that made their entire studio what it is
that is quite literally the entire point of the thread: darktide sucks because fatshark does fundamentally does no understand their own game
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>>739993001
darktide is more fun than vermintide though
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>>739992823
>higher difficulties
>than Auric
Is only high level Havoc, which is a complete clusterfuck in terms of balance in every conceivable way, not to mention a huge portion of the playerbase doesn't want to deal with Party Finder or seasonal bullshit. It's fun every so often but completely reamed by:
>party finder
>shit affixes
>shit stat changes that make a large portion of weaponry unusable and generally far worse build variety
Havoc needs a lot of work to even possess a playerbase worth listening to, and no amount of epeen wagging is gonna make you less retarded for picking fucking Crushers, of all things, as your hill to die on. The fact that THOSE are your issue makes me seriously doubt you even passed H30 without getting dragged along by the elbows.
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>>739992823
Just live in the EU.
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>>739990906
it's not the trapper behind three bulwarks
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>>739966946
There are none.
Darktide is dead. And also just a shit game in every direction.
Space Marine 2 is the most grindy boring skill-less soul-less experience you will ever have.
DoW1 is flawless but you've probably played it to death.
DoW2/3 are esport abominations.
DoW4 and TW40k are both soul-less modern creations.
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>>739993046
>crushers
...what?
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>>739993151
Sorry, I misread the reply chain. Just ignore me.
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>>739993172
HEADHUNTING
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Space Marine 2
Mechanicus
Rogue Trader, if you're okay with some jank.
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>>739966946
The fact that people still unironically play this shit has convinced me the jews are right about the goy and the chinese are right to farm their own people via gatcha games.
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>>739993215
it's a good game, not that deep faggot
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>>739993282
>it's a good game
LMAO okay goy, keep painting your dolls or whatever
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>>739993215
Darktide is dead. Its barely getting 9k daily players without major updates or changes. The ONLY reason you see it here is because its 40k and 40k gets spammed to death on /v/.
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>>739993298
vermintide 2 fanboys are so fucking odd
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>>739993321
>he thinks goyhammer is any different from goyhammer: space
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>>739993362
what games do you play?
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>>739976072
Man that was pretty damn cool. It actually reminded me why I even got into the IP in the first place.
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>>739993383
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>>739993383
>/v/
>play game
I have a bad news for you
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>>739993425
really laying on the unfunny internet-addled shit huh
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>>739993215
>fun, satisfying combat makes a bad game
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>>739993383
he's too cool (afraid) to answer
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>ratclicker when enemy shoot back at them instead of letting them play dynasty warrior.
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>>739993282
The whole game is grinding by spamming dodge and M1, to get gear, so you can go on a higher difficulty, to spam dodge and M1. And it literally, never, ever, changes.
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>>739976072
>the universe is a big place and whatever happens you will not be MISSED

lmao they dare referencing that
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>>739993608
again, what games do you play then?
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>>739993608
The game is about killing stuff, which is makes quite fun. Not everyone's a faggot like you who needs a quest log telling them what they need to do to have fun.
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>>739993608
oh ok you're just fishing for (you)s while not giving a single good alternative in your eyes. I got my pity mate
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>fatshark cosmetic paypigs found the thread
uh oh! engage the discord sisters!
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What is up with the accuracy of Darktide players? I've noticed only Ogryn and half of Hivescum players can land headshots on distant enemies. I remember Vermintide players being extremely fast and accurate, alot of times they could beat me to the shot and I'm (was) good.
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>>739993729
is 4chan your entire personality
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>>739993762
part of it is it has a larger playerbase still, so more shitters
the other part is the horrid ping system that, without mods, places a giant 2d skull over the target making far-away enemies harder to hit
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/423
there's like 5 different mods attempting to fix this problem (that fatshark has ignored for 4 years............)
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>>739993762
You generally don't need to land headshots in Darktide whereas VT2 had that headshot ammo refund and low ammo on the map
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>>739993674
Name it ive played all of it. If you're asking what series is better for combat its Monster Hunter.

>>739993683
>which is makes quite fun
HA no it fucking doesn't. Everything dies in a single hit, even the enemies that are supposed to be harder to kill the community has minmaxed down to a single hit. The only exception now is bosses and totally-not-a-witch-rip-off.

>>739993725
No its just a shit game played by retards spammed here daily because you're so insecure and tryhard in attempting to get validation for your pathetic cucked game.
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Of all game to fucking schizo over, you pick fucking Darktide
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>>739993886
the game generates so much asshurt for some reason, it's bizarre
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>>739993886
Of all the games to glaze you pick Darktide.
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>>739993912
>Darktide is good!
>It clearly is not
>Release
>Reviews
>Post release support
>Cash shop
>Paid classes (broken promise)
>Gameplay being terrible
Post one, 1, single webm of its gameplay.
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>>739993912
>do nothing with a good IP
>make a bad game following it and gaslight people with the 4-guardsman trailer
>people are not happy
>"for some reason"
how many paypig cosmetics do you own?
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>>739993912
Im just asshurt that their first trailer for the game was 4 generic grunts and instead we got this clown fantasy game
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>>739993956
none, i dont buy cosmetics, game is still fun, manages to mix power fantasy with an actual challenge like nothing else i've played

only real flaw is few and repetitive maps
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>>739994009
>with an actual challenge
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>>739994026
so you think the game is easy at all difficulties then?
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>>739993948
>>Paid classes (broken promise)
I've never actually seen anyone post the source for this one but it's been repeated so often.
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>>739994046
Yes. You simply grind better gear to match whatever minmax build is popular right now on your class. To imply skill has anything to do with it is laughable. At one point fucking psyker would chain stun the entire map infinitely allowing any retard team to win under any circumstances.
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>>739994060
They deleted it from the steam announcements after release.
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>>739994075
t. professional Heresy player
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>>739994075
>You simply grind better gear
what the fuck are you even talking about?
you buy the gear and level it up to max straight away, you don't grind for anything
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>>739994103
I did Havoc 40 faggot and quit when I realised how cucked I was playing this
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>Darktide and Vermintide 2 are fun
Agreed
>Darktide is better than Vermintide 2
Disagree. We can no longer be friends.
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>>739994110
Retard
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>>739994148
where is the grind????????
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This guy is really just going to lie to justify his opinion.
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>>739966946
Nah the game is good. It could be better but there's enough content already. Just raising the 4 base classes to max level + max level weapons takes enough time.
If you're done after that, you already got more than a hundred hours of fun.
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>>739994205
Post a single webm of Darktide
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>>739994225
where is the fucking gear grind nigger???
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>>739994225
Post your havoc 40 clear.
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>>739994075
Lying gutter retard
You have never played this game in your entire life
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>>739994093
And nobody took a screenshot of it?
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>>739994270
to be fair to the weirdo, you did have to grind for gear before but that was changed a long time ago, so idk why that idiot is still crying about the game after all that time
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This game was fun for the 20 hours I played it. But playing it for much longer would be boring. It's just to repetitive.
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>>739994269
Post a single webm of Darktide
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>>739994272
At the time I guess we all just trusted fatshart lol
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>>739990687
Oh no, I dont use the smite. I use the staff that shoots electricity, surge force.
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>Darktide is good!
>Post gameplay
>Literally cannot post any because any they take looks terrible
That's why the game sucks. Its terrible to play and it shows instantly when you look at it.
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>>739994395
why did you spend time playing it to supposedly get to havoc 40 then?
you must have enjoyed it, or you're just a lying weirdo
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Personally, I'm still having fun
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>>739994395
Here, anon. You can find gameplay here:
https://www.youtube.com/
Hope that helps you out! The rest of us are busy actually playing video games. Not everyone goes to the webm threads, believe it or not. Best of luck on the next random strand of bullshit you decide to latch on to instead of debate an actual point.
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Oh ok so he knows he didnt actually clear havoc 40 and is just lying to have some sort of credibility. They really just arent sending their best.
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>>739994441
Because I was retarded to think Fatshark would fix it.

>>739994458
Hey anon, you didn't post a single webm. Maybe try again.
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>>739966946
>hide every single feature of the white guy guardsman
>ogryn is white (the retarded race)
>the jamacian is el superino smart psyker
>zealot is a female dyke gook
>"but its fun who cares!"
>its not even fun, its worse than their previous game
you are all cucked beyond belief
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>>739994480
>Because I was retarded to think Fatshark would fix it.
so you spent a lot of time playing a game you didn't like hoping it would at some point be fixed into a game you like? mental illness
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>>739994349
I don't know why you keep thinking this is some valid argument against the game being fun to play

>>739994395
It feels great to play. I've played for 1000 hours but haven't captured any footage of it, does that mean I didn't enjoy it?
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>>739994534
It was fine for a short while, then it became a waste of time, then it was clearly fucked and beyond saving.
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>>739994485
Hello cherrypicker.
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>>739994553
The fact you can't post a single webm because you know doing so will result in ridicule is why the game is bad. Its like a crack addict covered in feces in a basement saying crack is great but refusing to show off how bad it actually is.
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>>739994567
>It was fine for a short while
havoc 40 isn't a short while, did you enjoy it or not faggot? you're basically a woman
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>>739994582
>"cherrypicker"
>Its the title screen for the game, you look at it every time you login.
Hi sister!
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Jesus Christ this nigga need to be sanctified.
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this guy is legit lolcow territory, first time i've ever used that term too
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>>739994553
>I've played this gatcha game for 1000 hours! That doesn't mean I'm a paypig retard!
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>>739994598
>havoc
>taking long
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>>739994553
>I've played for 1000 hours but haven't captured any footage of it, does that mean I didn't enjoy it?
His point is pretty valid tho I mean if darktide is so good why cant anyone post footage of it that shows it being fun? I can find fun webms of helldivers 2 any time from their threads.
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I bet this is the same guy who starts shitting himself in rage because the game allows you to max your gear instead of rolling for randomized stats like in Vermintide.
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Sextus-Minoris-14!! POXBURSTER!!
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>>739994668
acting like a weird faggot isn't bait, it's just being a weird faggot
last reply you'll get from me
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>>739994743
I accept your concession. You couldn't post gameplay because there is no good gameplay in Darktide.
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>>739966946
>Darktide sucks!
Why?
>It... IT JUST DOES, OKAY??
Cool argument bro.
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Just step aside mouse + keyboard scrub, let us controller chads handle this
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>>739994791
is the hab dreyko minigame any easier on controller too? feels awkward trying to go between the circles on keyboard
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>you should record your gaming session like a faggot streamer just to btfo my schizophrenia
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>>739994857
the internet is riddled with these narcissistic cretins nowadays, it's insufferable man
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>>739994780
>At release promised free classes, started paid classes instead
>Release was a horrific disaster with unfinished crafting, no private lobbies, limited missions and weapons, missing features from Vermintide 2
>Cash shop came before crafting even released properly
>In-game cosmetics were abysmal
>Terrible performance and stability
>Then went hard into RNG crafting and grind only to have to backtrack
>Had to rework the classes multiple times because they kept fucking it up
>Tyranids were heavily suggested but thats been scrapped because the game was doing so poorly
>Updates have been glacial
>All this for gameplay that fundamentally boils down to a worse experience than Vermintide 2 with less satisfying combat, enemies, maps and characters
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>>739994901
>>739994857
>Cant post 1 webm of its gameplay
Maybe you should just accept the gameplay is dogshit?
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>>739994662
Fuck off nigger I haven't paid for anything other than the base game and the classes and all of them were on sale

>>739994697
One game is a flashy spectacle built for eye candy and nothing else and the other has skill based movement and challenging combat that actually feels good
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>>739994909
darktide combat is much more satisfying than vt2, and frankly i found all of the vermintide characters dull as fuck
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>>739994964
You're entitled to your highly unpopular opinion
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>>739994857
Resorting to outlandish demands that are completely irrelevant to the matter at hand is a common tactic for shitposters and the cognitively impaired.
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>>739966946
SM2 is the best right now.
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>>739994934
>One game is a flashy spectacle built for eye candy and nothing else
if its fun its fun and you can see it when you watch it
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>>739994964
>and frankly i found all of the vermintide characters dull as fuck
I have more hours in DT than VT2 by a large margin, but that is, frankly, a WILDLY incorrect opinion to have.
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Space Marine 2 and Darktide are guilty pleasures but both games and studios are shit and thats ok we don't go to McDonalds for the quality
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>>739994617
And those characters don't fucking matter because you make your own you dogfucking cretin. You can make the palest psyker to ever pick up a force staff and give him a german accent if you want. Your zealot can be a bald irishman, you have options that you can use, or not use. You're like those idiots that complain about the bear fucking in BG3 despite the game warning you that bear sex is about to occur and giving you multiple chances to back the fuck out of it.
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>>739995087
>BG3 despite the game warning you that bear sex is about to occur and giving you multiple chances to back the fuck out of it.
To be fair at release, the bear fucking was hidden and you could actually stumble into bear dick
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>>739995070
Space Marine 2 is just shit to play, why are space marines move like a overweight grandma
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>>739995004
Look, I've played HD2 for 500 hours too, it's gameplay just doesn't hook me the same way Darktide does
Often even on D10 Helldivers is a snooze fest
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>>739995123
Literally just don't romance the furry(male)
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I wanna try VT2, but...... my favourite part of DT is the guns. Are there guns in VT2?
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Its way better than verminshite.
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>>739995178
yeah but they are pretty shit compared to darktide
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>>739995140
>why are space marines move like a overweight grandma
Same reason why nothing in Darktide is lore accurate. Because if a lasgun could actually shoot as it does in lore you would be able to dismantle a map a foot at a time with a single shot.
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>>739995178
Gun in VT2 is "kill special" weapon because everything else are melee
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>>739995178
The Dwarf can do full gun builds, and has a minigun. But the best ranged experience is Elf with her throwing spears.
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>>739966946
This game is just a fucking chore to grind. Who unironically enjoys this progression slop? Atleast Vermintide 2 doesn't take nearly as long to reach endgame and start playing on the hardest difficulties.

I reached a comfortable position to farm Legend and take on Cataclysm with good teams after only 40-50 hours.

In the same time, I wasn't even done leveling in Darktide. I was still pubing in Heresy. With unleveled characters.

It took like 20 more hours to reach 30 and comfortably run Damnation in Pubs.

This progression garbage is the worst thing about the games. It doesn't even make the game deeper like the slavic euro trash love to claim. It's all the same shit once you reach max level and actually select like the 1 of 3viable builds for your class.
Shit like this is why L4D2 will always be better in the long run. It's just instantly good right away for new players.
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>>739966946
>Truly a testament of how Vermintide was lightning in a bottle
Don't get full of yourself kid, vermintide was garbage too. Insanely repetitive slop, I have no idea how you people can play that kind of shit for hundreds of hours on end. You play it for 45 minutes and you've literally already experienced everything the game has to offer.
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>>739987504
He said "worse" and was directly comparing Darktide to Vermintide, you illiterate shitskin
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>>739995432
it should not take you 40 hours to reach max level and difficulty in darktide what the fuck

what is this thread
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>>739995432
>Shit like this is why L4D2 will always be better in the long run. It's just instantly good right away for new players.
Its also why Helldivers hits a comfortable 200k on a major update and Darktide can't break 15k anymore. Anyone can jump into Helldivers and join the hardest difficulty as long as they play well. Darktide you just fall behind patch after patch. This sort of sunk cost issue only works if you have a giant pool of idiots who suck on your nipple for their dopamine exclusively (WoWfags).
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>>739994485
ogryn is the based retard tho, no one hates the slab Pedro
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>>739995178
Pick Bounty Hunter
you can generate infinite ammo with your class passive and talent(s)
>but is it fun
Fuck yes, just don't get filtered by whiffing headshots
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>>739995178
there are guns and they used to be really fun but fatshit is determined to force players to melee so they have all been nerfed dozens of times. you can sort of still do gun only builds, but people will get mad at you for playing "wrong."
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>>739966946
>40k co-op game FINALLY
>You're some kind of suicide squad sulking around literal shit filled sewers killing homeless people
>The little in-game lore that is doled out is barely ever advanced
>Gameplay not as narratively connected as Helldivers 2

Yeah, it definitely sucks but it has a solid base to work from. I think a Darktide 2 would be best, just leave this behind as is.
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>>739997364
>>You're some kind of suicide squad sulking around literal shit filled sewers killing homeless people
this is based though
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>>739997364
>Haha imagine if every map looked like garbage!
The mind of a Swede is a insane place
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A Y D U V
Y U D V A
A V D U Y
Y V D U A
D V U A Y

Anyway I'm looking for the group
U D
V D
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>>739997473
they look good though, even the lower levels missions have good maps
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>>739997521
the three armed emperor heeds your call fellow human
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>>739997364
>>Gameplay not as narratively connected as Helldivers 2
Nothing more makes me not want to play Helldivers 2 than to hear you missed out on all the best moments.
The 'You had to be there' mindset also what, in-part, killed Destiny 2.
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>>739966946
Explain why the (((DLC))) and classes for this piece of shit are 3-4x as expensive as Vermintide.
No, it's not significantly newer, and both games still receive new content.
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>>739997616
>ratfags see a few maps (most of them are dogshit like the elven ones) and call it actual content
Weapon pack soon eh fellow ratfag
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>>739997616
You genuinely posted it, but it's not "jews" per se, but suits. A lot of Dorktide DLC and major updates line up with quarterly reports.
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>>739997616
40kek idiot tax
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>>739997616
mismanaged company that relies on DLC revenue and slopshop to keep itself afloat
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My biggest problems are normal gunner enemies and special spam. Normal gunners have an obscene damage output not even mentioning the special ones and will melt you if you aren't spam sliding for half a second. As for the special spam, I really dislike how the optimal way to play is just to zerg ahead and not wipe the map because there will always be a horde. It feels counterintuitive. Spawning 3 bosses simultaneously can also be quite cancer ngl.
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>>739966946
>considering the new cinematic for the tabletop came out a few hours ago
GW is incredibly lucky they scooped up Syama
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>>739998495
Knowing when and how to progress is a real skill that you only learn by playing harder difficulties. You know someone is new to the game when they stop dead in their tracks to face down the exceptionally dangerous threat of a poxwalker horde. That was sarcasm by the way. Meanwhile they panic FORWARD during boss fights because they are retardedly pushing for that """""""saferoom""""""" that doesn't actually exist. Meanwhile people who relentlessly push forward are probably triggering events (oh wow 3 bosses???) while the rest of their team are distracted. A squad of 4 leaders.
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>>739969282
>RUNE
Are you sure about this?
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>>739966946
they forgot that colors exist outside the shades of grey. Every level looks exactly the same.
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>>739984723
they have the exact same gameplay
thank you for telling everyone you've never played vermintide
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>>739994212
it has like 1/4th of the content vermintide has, after 4 years
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>>739997616
1 darktide character = 3 vt2 careers
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>>739994964
they are literally the same gameplay
>vt2 characters are dull
ok you've never played it past 3 missions on recruit
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>>739966946
Soundtrack is good
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>>739997687
>>739999676
you are brown and pathetic
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>>739966946
>I have no fucking clue how thousands of people keep playing this shit on a daily basis
It's 40k
Do you see any alternatives with similar settings?
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>>739976323
I like Light of the Imperium
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nDBUXzWlcas
Emperor of Mankind is good too but a little repetitive
https://youtube.com/watch?v=a7wAwYiWhAo
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>>739978136
>I hear you're a heretic now, Father
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>>739990493
>stamina and resource usage, dodges, builds, circle strafe, corners
>Darktide i can just spam aoe lightning and my team cleaves through stuff
anon playing the support class while refusing to go into melee, then complaining that he isn't fighting anything in melee
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>>739966946
>Vermintide was lightning in a bottle
Understatement of the century.
Remember when the game at launch had the best possible cosmetics, but to unlock them you had to complete some of the most asinine anti-coop challenges ever made?
Thousands of players throwing matches left and right in order to get the only non-paypig cosmetics, only for Fartshart to quietly move every challenge to a "private game" requirement, which is not actually private since you can only host a private lobby with another player, not solo.
Genuinely baffling how people play this steaming pile of shit over any other coop game, including Vermintide 2.
>payday 2, helldivers 2, and DRG with 30k players daily
Oh yeah, nevermind.
40K fans are just pathetic wretches.
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I have this shit game on my Steam account, I'll install when they let me play as an Eldar
>abaloobloo my based nazi imperium would never muh lore muh mudcore
an Inquisitor can do whatever the fuck they want
they already fucked over their discount Suicide Squad premise with Arbites and Skitarii because jiggling keys at 40tards sells
add a fucking elf
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that's one thing i'll credit to darktide: no elf players
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>>740000378
the lack of scoreboard made them scurry away
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>>740000468
you mean the lack of friendly fire
elf player lack the smarts to commit shenanigans by barrels and ledges
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I bought this game on sale and have been loving it so far. Played through the campaign on Psyker and then bought Arbites. Level 28 currently and playing Damnation, only thing I've felt that was really difficult was the twins but otherwise everything has been manageable besides the few occasional odd games where everything goes to shit.
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>>739969352
>That was a massive jump in difficulty
malice to heresy was always the biggest jump
>and not really fun.
i agree, it's too easy.
But seriously... once you get better at the game, heresy becomes an actual joke.
In Malice you can get away with the team walking forward and attacking randomly. But heresy is where both teamplay and personal skill starts to matter. It's probably the biggest filter in the game.
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>>740000654
the dude twin shield is more suscpetible to melee and the girl to guns if I remember correctly
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>>739966946
I like Spess Mehreen. The sound in Darktide is broken to the point where it's more surprising if I manage to go an entire level without encountering a silent specialist that emerges from nowhere to absolutely fuck up my day. If I ever get the urge to play it I'll just stick with Vermintide instead.
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>>739998356
>business relies on income to stay afloat
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>>740000731
>Tyranids can barely path their way up a fucking ramp
Immersion ruined
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>>740000705
It's still a really fucky fight on any difficulty above easiest. I can kite and keep the melee sister busy but my team wipes to the ranged one or I can go ham on the ranged one and my team wipes to the melee fucking them up.
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>>739970918
>horrible habits that fuck you up in the higher difficulties
Reminds me of Gayday 2, only differences is that Sharttide hardlocks you out of higher difficulties until you complete the lower ones enough, and that certain classes (aka psyker) will teach you bad habits if you start with them because they can carry you beyond the difficulty you should be playing at.
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>>739966946
>dopamine-fried addicts
i feel offended
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>>739997616
Judge Dredd is way cooler than whatever the fuck you can be in Vermintide
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>>740000934
Vermintide at least is infinitely more tactical and slow than Darkshite, as it requires actual brains to play instead of just dodge sliding everywhere spamming broken skills and guns.
Yes, OE, WS, and BW are still comically overpowered, but we don't talk about that.
Still the game is significantly harder than Darkshite, and Cata twitch deeds are harder than any havoc auric maelstrom slop you can play.
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>>740000985
>a paypig class is cooler
OINK OIIIIINK OIIINK SQUEEEEEE
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>>740000772
What are you talking about
The warrior with the whip is trying to whip the spess mehren from the base of the ramp
The hornygaunt hops up the side of the ramp to attack him before getting btfo'd by synapse death
Of all the faults to find in this video, this is the one you pick?
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>>740001024
>ai
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>>740000750
>relies on a lazy gacha nigger tier monetization
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>>740001024
I bought the game, off a key site btw, for it
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>>740001046
newfag
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>>740001059
it's nothing like gacha
also Darktide is regularly on super sale. It's an extremely cheap game.
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>the shills are finally here
im out
total piggie death
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Can't wait for the Skitty
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Goodbye, 3rd worlder
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>>740000813
Let's not forget Dorktide's (and really Fartshart's) inability to properly describe how their abilities work and sometimes will outright lie. And on top of this they convolute damage with inane weapon attributes like "Finesse" which is just Attack Speed and Critical Chance, and "Strength" which is Damage and Stagger. Stagger itself being just the ability to make enemies... stagger. A weapon's push is Stagger. So any weapon with "Strength" does more damage and has a higher stagger chance. It seems intuitive until you realize it's all dogshit because a weapon's ADM (armor damage multiplier) can completely negate this intuitive "beer math" that is true damage output. So now that you've dipped your toes into play damage, understand that enemies have armor and further more different armor types. A single poxwalker is simply "unarmored" but groaners are "infested." Gunners are "flak/unarmored" while maulers are "Maniac." It's fucking stupid as Swede.
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Swedes are some of the shittiest developers ive ever had the displeasure of dealing with.
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>>740001102
>nothing like gacha
>BUY THIS SKIN BEFORE IT GOES OUT OF ROTATION NOW
>FOR 40 BUCKS
>BUT YOU NEED SPEND 60 DOLLAR WORTH OF ACK-VILLA TO BUY IT
>btw it clips horribly we will call it premium
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I love /v/, if you like a VIDEOGAME you're a shill
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>>740000987
the secret is that most of that time was spent playing with a friend. the pic is actually from a year ago and i stopped playing regularly long before that but still came back for a game or two when an update dropped
i wanted to get into modded difficulties but you actually have to find a party for that and that kinda sucked
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>>740001182
>maulers are "Maniac."
ragers* are "Maniac." (as are both flavor of flamers and bombers and the trapper)
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>>739969352
Sharters really didn't like this trvke...
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because hes a shit player
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>>740001182
>>740001239
Maulers are fucking Carapace/Flak, furthermore their Chest is Flak while their Head is Carapace. With this armor setup it is actually more effective to shoot them center of mass if your weapon has issues with armor.
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>>740001317
*in a shit game

Sorry. Shart game
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(You)
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you're a jew or brown
call it
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3rd worlders getting uppity again.
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hey stop talking shit about my game, I have spent 2000 bucks on skins alone you know
others anons in /copeg/ echochamber told me I am the coolest
and if you dare to disagree with me I will have a schizophrenic episode and call you namefag!
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NO HAVOC 40 CLEAR = ANGER
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Vermintide 2 is better. Better enemies, better characters, better weapons, better maps, better modes. Still i don't think Darktide is bad by deafult if i like VT2 more, but the maps are so boring as fuck in DT and enemies are not as fun to fight as in VT2. Still i enjoy both game, but i have a clear favorite if i need to choose between the two.
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>>740001182
funniest part of this is that you're still wrong or partially wrong about a few things. Finesse is crit damage, not chance, and the poxwalker/groaner thing is the other way around. But this kinda proves your point; it's messy and confusing.

It's actually a miracle that the combat works as well as it does.
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>>740001529
you're the coolest
sincerely, /copeg/
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I like Darktide
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I have to melee in this game and got downed because I ran out of ammo. Shit game :(
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>>740001680
yeah they should give my gunlugger infinite ammo on heavy stubbers
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>>740001562
What's even better is none of this matters as the dump stat 80% of the time is Mobility.
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>>739992657
>in the end they dont do shit.
welcome to warhammer40k
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>>739992657
Admech and their Skitarii were already there, these are just super special lone wolf oper8or types that can be loaned to the Inquisition for their spec ops because conventional Skitarii fight in battlegroups under Techpriest wifi.
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>>740001538
I've had to clutch with teams full of havoc forged as an ASS. Not playing your friendslop.
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Are bots for this even expected to come out at all? I thought that was one of the first things they were planning on adding
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>>740003795
They've been there since the beginning. Game's too mechanically complex for them to survive though. You're expected to just pug, and honestly even as a loner schizoid I see no problem with it, I don't understand the people who absolutely need at all costs to play alone.
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Game is shit for making Veteran not have vanilla lasgun being actually good and the perks with standing still and whatever suck cock.
Also his "hidden" cover mechanic is never used because you have to constantly run away from melee.
Game is poorly thought out
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>>740005302
counterpoint when I hit a mauler with a giant pickaxe it does a meaty sound and it pleases me
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>>740005302
The middle firerate infantry lasgun is good thoughever?
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>>740000378
oh yeah?
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>>740005302
>the perks with standing still and whatever suck cock
They at least had the sense to make Marksman's Focus stacks build on headshot kills rather than standing still. It's actually not terrible now.
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It's been a while since I last personality shifted as a psyker, what combination has a good voice line set and fun interactions? Currently a male psyker who focuses on their beloved.
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>>740005715
I think all of them are just terrible weapons
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>>740001213
it's a shitty FOMO MTX model but it's not gacha, gacha is random
you know exactly what overpriced dogshit you're buying that you can't see in a first-person game and everyone else will only look at you and think
>lol this retard spent $10 on a mask with a gay voice filter
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>>739969352
lmao.
if he saw the top Auric levels he would get a stroke.
>Auric is pretty much a never ending wall of enemies you have to murder your way through all the way to the end
game is pure fucking fun.

also, pic related, dont play with console players.
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Spoonfeed me. How competent are Skitarii in the lore? lexicanum doesn't give enough for me to understand. books vary.
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>>740008530
Loner, who is a massive dick and borderline heretic compared to muh protocol nigger and muh beloved schizo
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>>739977942
He does have a point sorta. I think the game has a design flaw when it comes to difficulty. Anything below Aurics is kinda boring if you have your character geared up.
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>>739966946
trvth nvke
Vermintide was infinitely more charming and enjoyable than Darktide. i hate what FatShark has done to this series.
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>>740008916
They're a step up from Guardsmen because they have cyborg augmentations, better tech and noosphere botnet allowing better battlefield coordinations, but ultimately they're still the cannon fodder unit of their faction.
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man, i don't care if there is a brain in there, this thing is not human anymore
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>>740009095
They've all gotten new voicelines, but I've never played the loner. I assume male loner then?
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>>740009286
Male Loner has an unhinged german accent, while female loner has some weird mix of jeet (VA is a pajeeta) and eastern european accent
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>>740009343
shes french you fucking retard
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>>740008864
>console starts implementing crossplay exactly when pc becomes more popular
I'm noticing, especially for Xbox.
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>>739978330
>mod cheats in that makes your game look like MMO slop
>remove as much difficulty as possible
>complain that the game is too easy
>devs make it harder
>UHHH THIS IS UNFAIR
Havoc players are dumb niggers and listening to anything they say is wasted time
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I tried getting my (normie-er) friend into it and it was indeed too hard for him, we can't get past the 3rd difficulty at all without him constantly whining about how hard the game is

Probably one of the best games that released these last ten years tbqh
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>YOUR DEATH WILL BE SWEET
>BUT NOT FOR YOU
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>>740009664
you dont play a lot of games, do you
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>>739966946
Nah I like it, wish it had more maps though, specifically outdoors ones, and the new mods they keep adding are a waste of time and I wish they would either remove them or consolidate their gameplay into a single game mode. Take the upgrades from the wave based mode and put those in aurics or the expeditions shit, theyre so dry without it, It would be fun to try and make builds for expeditions and see how stupid you can make it, and for aurics I just stopped doing them because they get anti fun, it would be nice to try and get to 40 with whatever build you made before it resets.
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>>740008864
>dont play with console players
yet from my experience with darktide pc players always charge forward wanting to play alone and get killed and have zero awareness or just dont give a fuck about rescuing team mates.
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>>739975013
Lol.
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>>739975772
>He's not able to spark conversation about other games
Lmao.
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>>740008864
>pic related
that's not a console player, people with controllers would be swinging the sticks all over the screen, that person is using a mouse, they just suck
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>>740009670
>BEFORE LIFE
>DEEEAATH
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>>740009862
stop blaming people from trying to start convos about other games
they either dont get replies or they get called a tranny
kys
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>>740009670
>THY LIFE IS FORFeEeEeEIT *ratatatatata*
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>>739979087
Is this bait?
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HEAR ME ROAR!
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>>740010308
>>740010119
Makes me wonder if theyll ever add a "kasrkin" class or something that uses heavy weapons primarily, just have it work like Bardins mechanist class where the class ability is that you pull out a different specialist weapon.
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>>740005750
https://youtu.be/ApxwikkAb6Q
My friends Lex uses this voice and it's giving me vermintide flashbacks in between hordes.
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>>739970626
Needs radguns that you can use to grief your teammates
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>>739993948
I gotchu. Kneel, Loyalists!
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I feel like I'm kicking off training wheels at 100+ hours in finally getting rid of my +21% hp curio
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>>740009519
people really play like this? what the fuck.
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>>739969352
>turns out the people calling Dark Heresy a bad game are complete shitters who can't complete a single mission on Heresy
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>>740010975
in the end, snivelers WILL kneel to proppa ogryn geezer
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>>740009519
Yea you really dont need all that stuff if youre familiar with the game, I have no idea why people need an indicator to tell them how many dodges they have when the amount of dodges and its recharge is when the only reason you would have it is if you want to know when you can spam it, which you should never be doing.
>I need to see all my buffs in the middle of the screen
>I know I built the class and know what it does but I need to see that its doing the exact things Im making it do
Its just ADHD MMO shit.

The only mods I would say are actually necessary and should be part of the game is the scoreboard and the fire select function, just so things like lasguns are much easier to use without giving yourself carpal tunnel.
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>>740009519
pc faggots are so lame.
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>>740011939
found the guy in this webm >>740008864
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Remember to always stock up on ammo!
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>>740012228
why is it always the most retarded class, a.k.a zealol
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>>739969352
>beginner
>Hivescum
>Malice
Nigga your just retarded and suck at game
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>>740010119
having this belt-fed machinegun for veteran would be really fucking cool
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>>740012408
Yes it would. So that means the sw*des will never do it.
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>>740012228
>bitching about ammo with the fucking crate
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here's a concept
>sister repentia class
>Works like mix of grail knight, slayer and Warrior Priest (depends on build) from V2
>Strong as fuck in melee but no range exept of blitz
Would that work ?
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>>740012809
no
too much ranged fuckery this time around, also Burgle (you would need some sort of immunity from getting vored)
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I hurd they are toning down carapace armor spam, is autogun still a throw in havoc
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>>740012809
Literally just martyrdom zealot but even more gimped because you can't pop the half dozen Trappers behind the carapace wall about to ruin your day.
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>>740010975
Ratclickers would've immediately held block as soon as they saw the mace clipping through the doors.
But Darktide niggers dont need to do that, the game plays by itself innit.
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>only hivescum has proper female armor
i fucking hate this
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>>739969352
Perfect post, nothing but ridicule by every single Darktide player without a single hint of advice.
If this doesn't redpill you on the community of that game, nothing else will.
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>>740012470
why are swedcucks obsessed with making squad-based games with grand campaigns like NiggerDivers and Niggertide only to make them a precise combination of good elements and insufferable bullshit like this?
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>>740012809
sisters only have white hair
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>>740013183
Unless you have a shield I'm like 80% sure you'll still eat the overhead damage.
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>>739969352
You bought the DLC without getting to grips with the base game? Tard
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>>739978136
>Irish
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>>740013815
yanks cant tell the difference
they should all fucking die too, painfully
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havoc needs a rework
it's so much harder than it first released
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>>739994485
>jamacian
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>>740013183
Crusher overhead specifically has 20 block cost, double damage to toughness, then 260 damage to hp. You are not surviving an overhead beyond perfect parries or just being an ogryn.
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i fucking love the arbitrator's (maul) lines
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>>740012809
>but no range
She would need a ranged weapon, probably a pistol or throwing knives
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>>740014004
Im fine with Havoc diff, but hate the party finder. Want a quickmatch Havoc option with none of the rewards, I just want to smash heretics, not deal with primadonnas.
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>>740013430
No, it comes down to the Sister, it's optional. Some do it to lionize their founding Saint, others don't because serving matters more than hair color. Fucking Celestine has jet black hair.
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>>740012228
END OF RINE
RINE ENDS HERE
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>>740014979
Holy shit
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>>740012228
such welcoming and warm community
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>>740015656
In over 1000 hours I can count the amount of interactions like that on one hand, but its always zealots.



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