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I think that's a good thing.
The system in BG2 is so outdated that I don't even know what I'm supposed to do.
Where are the remakes of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2?
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>>740010820
Nice. This is the first time I heard of this.

It better have real-time with pause combat like the original. I will throw a fucking fit otherwise, because it is my favorite game of all time.
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>>740010820
And who's in charge of the remake?
Larain left WOTC who currently own the franchise.
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>>740010820

Kill all remakes.
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>>740010820
>that I don't even know what I'm supposed to do.
A true BG3 player.
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>>740010820
what's even the point of remaking the second without the first?
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You can't imagine the wailing of the old grognards when they see a mutilated demake of BG2
>where's my Time Stop?
>where's my Simulcra?
>where's my Spell Triggers?
>where's my Contingencies?
>where's my Kensai fighter subkit?
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>>740010820
>The system in BG2 is so outdated that I don't even know what I'm supposed to do.
It isn't outdated, you just need Swen to hold your hand while you play.

Don't worry, I am sure the game will have a gameplay mode for Pokemon babies as well.
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>>740010820
Who's the source on this rumor? You faked this and left out the user posting it.
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>>740011490
https://www.ign.com/articles/official-baldurs-gate-2-remake-reportedly-in-development-at-wizards-of-the-coast?utm_source=twitter
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>Baldur's Gate remake
>but it's in UE5
>and third person action game
>with only 4 action buttons on the UI at once
>dialogue options are just shortened versions of what they will say
>except it's not actually reflecting at all what they'll say
>and everything you can interact with is highlighted with bright yellow outlines
>and you have a narrator voice telling you where to go and what to do if you stay still for more than 20 seconds or your party members continuously remind you about doing the next quest on your list
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>>740011076
The lead designer of BG2 is working on this project. He also worked on Diablo and Starcraft, so don't worry, the game will have good combat like the original.
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>>740011852
>Diablo

Diablo 3 is not diablo
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>remake of a game that is still fine
>remake 2 without 1 when it's a direct fucking sequel and 1 is arguably better
wtf are they doing
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>>740011852
You just named three of the worst goyslop I have ever played in my entire life
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in the unlikely case this is true, it will be worse than the original
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>>740012014
>Ex-Wife of John Gallagher
kek
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>>740010820
But i can play those games right now, why would I need a remake??
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What games have Wizards of the Coast directly made like this before? Aren't they basically just a licensor?
genuinely asking
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>>740012062
The point was that they have action combat and not pokemon combat.

Anyway, Starcraft is great. Don't be a nigger.
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It will be censored and altered to fuck. You cannot write plots that start out like BG2 for modern gamers.

If anyone has forgotten
>childhood friend and most popular companion from first game is tortured and raped
>kill off 1/2 of the most iconic companions
>beginning of the game is a massive unforgiving dungeon
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>>740012178
>Ex-Wife of John Gallagher
That always makes me chuckle when somebody posts this jpg. >>740012014
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>>740010820
They have no idea what made it good and will try to clumsily imitate Larian instead, desperately trying to make every aspect of 2 iconic and recognizable as a brand.
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Who will be reimagined as gay, trans and black? I know Minsc will be at least two.
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They WILL leave out the dialogue where the evil dwarf companion threatens to bend the elf girl over his knee and give her a spanking, explicitly for his sexual enjoyment
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>>740012014
>1 is arguably better
Every single person with this opinion is autistic
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>>740012210(Me)
Their publishing tag on Steam is just MtG:A and the unreleased Exodus, so I think I was right that there is no track record to go off of.
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>>740011181
Based and underrated. Remakes are goyslop.
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>>740010820
I wonder is Beamdog is also working on this. They know the games and the original engine like the back of their hands by now.
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>>740011793
KINOOOO
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>>740012346
ad hominem
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Whats the point of a BG2 remake without first doing 1?
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BG1 was better because D&D rules break down the higher level it goes. Wizards just bend the world over the desk and assfuck them, much like Gale when he asks if you want to see his magic wand.
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>>740012431
But wizard bullshit is what makes it fun. BG1 doesn't really have much outside of forest map exploration. You can't do too much with your characters either.
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>>740012431
>BG1 was better because D&D rules break down the higher level it goes
But early game 2nd edition also sucks cock and BG1 is worse in pretty much every technical and artistic element?
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>>740012014
>Kivan
>Unknown
I am pretty sure that Dave Hibbeln is the face model.
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>>740012346
At least storywise, 1 is stronger, 2 feels like a sidequest for the most part, a break until you get back on the main bhalspawn story.
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>>740010820
Unironically a remake in BG3 engine would be nice, transforming into the Slayer, seeing Athkatla, Firkraag and so on.
On the other hand I just know they'll fuck it up.

Take the Genie puzzle. Most modern gaymers would immediately start crying and bitch around how it's the game's fault they borderline retarded.
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>>740012514
No it doesn't and no it isn't.
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>>740012514
I like how in 1 you can effectively kite enemies with an archer, BG2 is less responsive
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Please add trans and gay shit, bear sex etc.

That would be so funny.
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How can you remake 2 first? It literally continues from 1 and you start with high level characters (which you don't even know who the fuck they are if you didn't play 1).
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>>740012425
He is absolutely right, though. BG 1 is littered with a shitton of unimportant places.
The story might be good, but I couldn't be arsed with all those gorillion different places who might actually have something interesting happening in them.
It might be a great game once you know what you have for do, which places are worth visiting and which are just for grinding, but for a first timer it's tough to take in.
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>>740010820
Couldn't find the source, so I'll assume it's bullshit.
Also, why would you remake BG2 without BG1 first? It's a direct sequel. It's like watching Two Towers before the Fellowship.
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>>740011793
Ps6 exclusive
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>>740012908
Because BG2 is the one with the waifus that everyone remembers and it sold much more.
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>>740010820
Having turn-based combat would actually make the games playable so I'm all for it
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>>740011076
I just want they change the whole numeric system for a regular modern rpg system. The whole Tac0 and shit is so old and unnecessary.
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>>740011336
I was alive when Baldur's Gate 2 came out. I played it on release. THAC0 is stupid, and it has always been stupid. No one in their right mind likes THAC0.
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>>740012346
The mark of a worthy opinion.
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>>740013191
No one beyond retards who've been memed into a position give a shit about THAC0.
>hurrdurr no a lower number can't be better I can't keep track of lower = better even though seven year old kids had no problem with this when BG1 was released
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>>740013072
>>740013191
wait until you get to negative numbers in school. It's a real mind-bender.
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>>740013061
>turn based is for low iq mongoloids
>BG3 is the first turn based game
>now the monkey brain normies all of a sudden love BG after 30 years
many such cases
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>>740013445
I'm sorry you're obsessed with BG3 but CRPGs have been turn-based before that, and every modern RtwP has given up and introduced a TBS mode
RtwPslop lost, no need to cry about it
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>>740012819
>Semi-official fanbook has Cernd in a gay relationship with Kivan
Oh it's happening.
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this would likely be 7 or 8 years away from release so who even cares?
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turn cringe retards literally can NOT help themselves but to jump in and start shitflinging as soon as they spot a thread about a rtwp game
why is that
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>>740013523
you're living up to the title, learn to read lmao.
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>>740010820
I'd prefer Icewind Dale 2 remake
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>>740013686
But you choose to cry anyway
Thanks for playing lil man
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>>740012507
>doesn't really have much outside of forest map exploration
But enough about BG3 what the fuck was Larian thinking
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I think there's literally a million more important things to worry about here than whether turns are on a clock or not.
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>>740012387
Beamdog is guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones.

1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).

2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.

3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.

4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.

5. Siege of motherfucking Dragonspear.
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>>740013752
larian wasn't thinking about anything when making BG3, hence why the writing is such dull garbage
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>>740010820
enjoy your gaypride events in AMN
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>>740012863
>but for a first timer it's tough to take in.
played it for the first time last year and had no issues, the game gives you so many paws of the cheetah that you zip around the maps in seconds
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Reminder that this is literally what D&D is now.
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>>740011487
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>>740013072
Thac0 is fine but even with experience with it I have to take a second to do the math, the newer system is literally the exact same it's just easier for quick math
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>>740013523
A true fly appreciator.
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>>740013994
leftoids really do ruin everything, literally the only thing they are competent at
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>>740013748
just speaking the truth, little labubu lad.
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>>740013061
It isn't slop, you are just a braindead retard that can't think in real time.

Can turn troons even drive cars? Probably not. Or at least not very well, just like women.
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>>740012562
1 main quest is not stronger.
You get nearly killed so you go fuck off to help a literal random mine, and find a guy with a note that tells you another guy is actually behind the iron shortage so you go kill him, to find another note telling you another another guy is actually behind it, and uh ihe just so happen to be the guy who tried to kill you by chance.
You than get forced capture and kinda just confront him with no real issue.
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I like turn based and rtwp, but bg2 without rtwp is a horrible idea unless they literally remake every encounter or slow them all down to a crawl. It isn't like Fo1 where combat is mostly stats and positioning. Bg1 and 2 require that, but with magic and archers and fighters, you're managing an entire squad of adventurers rather than a single wasteland adventurer.
I think rtwp and turn based chads should kiss, the real threat are the button mashing action combat fags who want everything shallow and easy as fuck
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>>740014336
>to find another note telling you another another guy is actually behind it, and uh ihe just so happen to be the guy who tried to kill you by chance.
you are so fucking dumb
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>>740012779
>BG2 is less responsive
Because BG2 fixed that exploit you retard. That was always a error in ADnD rule implementation.
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>>740013191
If thac0 was such a good system nobody had an issue with it wouldn't have been replaced witha a better system.
I don't get the point In jerking it off unless you want to larp like a mega brain for preferring the exact same system we have now just more clumsy
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>>740013191
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>>740013523
BG1/2 already has turns, faggot
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>>740014456
That's the plot of bg1, actually go play the game.
You nearly get killed than proceed to kill random bandits for zero actual reason gorions ward was just bored with notes on them telling you to kill more random bandits and it all just happens to be connected with seravok by chance.
Also the bhaalspawn twist is bad, it's barely a twist with the intro dedicated to bhaal having children, your character being a mysterious orphan, NPCs chanting about bhaal, and half of the in-game books dedicated to the time of troubles
Like no shit
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>>740014518
It was replaced precisely because it filtered so many people. But the person that wrote third edition DnD will tell you that THAC0 is great and you were just too dumb for so he made DnD for retards. The culmination of that is the current DnD.
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>>740014512
it was fun, bg2 feels slower and jankier because of that
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>>740014714
It's the same system it's just positive numbers for easier calculations instead of negative you retard
Theirs literally no advantage to thac0
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>>740014518
nta but D&D was originally a parlor trick one guy knew how to run. He'd do all the calculations and even roll all the dice himself. Hopefully you can see why THAC0 makes more sense.
The modern war-like number comparison style emerged as a way to spread more of the cognitive load onto the players. This makes the game much less accessible, but D&D's monopolistic control over the market lessens the need for accessibility.

So that's why THAC0 was replaced. You need to stop assuming that TSR/WotC/Hasbro are infallible deities to understand it.
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>>740014713
>Also the bhaalspawn twist is bad, it's barely a twist with the intro dedicated to bhaal having children, your character being a mysterious orphan, NPCs chanting about bhaal, and half of the in-game books dedicated to the time of troubles
you are such a midwit
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>>740014742
>>740012779
what are you blabbering about retard, both BG1ee and BG2ee use the same engine
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>>740014797
He really is a moron, just stop engaging with it.
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>>740010820
>ruin wc3 remake
>ruin gothic 1 remake
>ruin bg2 remake

yep, those are my three top childhood games. They were my childhood, effectively.
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>>740014763
see >>740014793
If it's all one sum, then negative numbers make more sense than having positive ones that you have to remember to subtract.
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>>740010820
>The system in BG2 is so outdated that I don't even know what I'm supposed to do.
Do zoomers really? I had it figured out when I was 9
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>>740014851
the movement is tweaked in 2 to be slower so you can't "exploit" kiting effectively
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Why would a remake of a bad thing be a good thing?
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>>740010820
>Where are the remakes of Fallout 1 and Fallout 2?
They don't need one. Perfect games. BG 1 and 2 aged like milk though
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>>740014923
It's the same system it's just numbers go up instead of down which is more intuitive. Can you niggers least be nerds about cool shit instead of larping that you're smart for liking objectively worse designs to the same thing?
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>>740013523
I imagine Skyrim is the best rpg ever.
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>>740015003
no its not, Bg1ee literally uses BG2 engine on top of it OG BG1 movement was slower than bg2.
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>>740015062
you know the fallout 2 devs immediately went on to make Planescape and rave about how much better the engine was right
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>>740010820
Honestly, as long as they don't cut or add anything I'd love a remake with better graphics and better combat. Wonder if they'll go the Owlcat top-down-but-3D route? Or just AI upscale the whole thing (AGAIN) and call it a day?
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>>740015074
I just explained to you the historical basis for the change that *you* brought up, and now the topic is beneath discussion?
Great. Never fucking whine about it again then.
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>>740015183
i dont understand how anyone could say fallout 1 or 2 has aged better than BG2, bizarre
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>>740014972
Bg2 is just a knowledge check game, half of the confusion are people not knowing that you just need to do the under dark so you can get your hands on weapons that can arbitrary hit stronger enemies.
Or abuse imp haste
Or that skull trap and horrid wilting is like 10x stronger than anything else because its weirdly party safe and just shits out damage nothing is immune too for no reason
It's honestly really shitty design but it's from an old game so let's larp otherwise
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>>740015241
That's easy, FO1 and 2 were good from the start. bald gays never were.
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>>740011574
Wizards of the Coast parent company Hasbro told IGN:
>"We do not comment on speculation or rumor."
Based.
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>>740015237
Your historical basis is the dm did the math instead of players so idk wtf think that proves.
1 uh no everyone did the math
2 they still all do the math now.
genuinely I literally have no idea what you're blabbering on about
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>>740015172
just play the games one after the other and try kiting in both and you'll see the differences, it's the way the animations work
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>>740015312
skill issue
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>>740015554
Not an argument tissue
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>>740015183
Yeah but fallout 2 controls a lot better because it's more simple
Half of the challenge in rtwp games is fighting the ai moving closer to engage enemies or really poor information given to the player like protection to magical weapons visual effect being hard to spot if you don't know what it looks like compared to the other 20 buffs.
Buff tooltips alone would nuke bg2 difficulty by half
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>>740015361
They literally couldn't all do the math when only one person in any given room knew the rules of the game. D&D didn't magically come into the minds of millions of people all at once ffs.
Plus, at a modern table, to know what role is necessary to hit requires a *third* math problem on top of the two the two people are doing. Compare that to where the DM at most tells the dice-roller "you need a 12 or better" as the output of the 1 math problem.
And yes DMs did everything back then, from Gygax on down.
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>>740015739
Didn't read a word, just the fuck up holy shit lmao, it's literally the same system just done to be quicker and less obtuse to new comers.
Be a geek about something worthwhile than thac0 you fucking retard.
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>>740015638
bro you can't even aim a grenade between two enemies or tell your companion to stay back, wtf are we doing here.
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>>740015826
Who cares 99% of people just click gun in the UI than click on guy to beat fallout 1/2.
Bg 1/2 are far more complex and more awkward to actually play
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>>740015398
>just play the games
im literally playing them right now, its same engine and theres no difference in how movement works between BG1ee and 2, enhanced editions use the same engine you can even merge both games together with a mod into one map
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>>740015805
It is objectively more obtuse. Your grandma could play 70's D&D because there was no math required, just "I use my bow against the goblin" or whatever.
What you mean to say is that modern D&D is more conducive to modern playing habits and the monolithic position D&D culturally occupies, which is true.
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>>740015638
>Half of the challenge in rtwp games is fighting the ai moving closer to engage enemies
You can assign any kind of scriped behaviour to your party members, even turn it off completely with a single button.
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>>740010820
jej, this will go over well. It'd have to be 5E, because of WotC. So already there it's completely shat itself, since 5E is fucking dogshit. The best parts of 2E is that it's not super balanced, not compared to modern DnD at least. BG2 also gets a lot of its good parts from it's characters and David Warner is dead, so no more iconic Irenicus. I'm pretty sure they'd have to recast everyone. And remaking the whole of Athkatla in what, Larian's engine? Good luck with that.

But I'm guessing they're making this remake for the BG3 audience, if that's the case, then nothing what I just said matter. The only thing I'd be interested in seeing in this is the sex scenes with Aerie and Jaheira, also impregnating Aerie and seeing her pregnant would be nice. Not that they'd keep that in the game lmao.
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>>740012253
>beginning of the game is a massive unforgiving dungeon
Ah yes, the totally unforgiving mephits and goblins ruined many a playthrough. Get the fuck outta here, the beginning of BG1 where half your party has 10hp is much worse.
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>>740016012
I know but I don't consider looking at menus to make The ai less shit fun.
I can assure you I'm in the majority on this
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>>740012253
>childhood friend and most popular companion from first game is tortured and raped
Without playing 1 it will have zero emotional impact.
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>>740016106
there's no way they'd change the ruleset that'd be retarded
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>>740011487
Is the white shit... Le white shit?
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>>740015638
>fighting the ai moving closer to engage enemies
literally a skill issue, you can (its advisable to turn off everything on all, besides auto attack on fighters), AI settings are a customize for each companion, you can even turn it off completely with one button on the UI when u need companions only follow ur orders
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>>740011793
>and third person action game
100000000%
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>>740016106
Wizards doesn't own Larian's engine. They must be starting from scratch on this thing.
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Not bgt if not Adnd
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>>740016396
>To make the game less shit do this boring ass script shit first
Game design skill issue, make the ai less shit out of the box and people wouldn't complain about it
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>>740016106
>remaking the whole of Athkatla in what, Larian's engine? Good luck with that.
What do you mean? Baldur's Gate and the underdark areas are huge.
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>>740016452
It's probably going to be UE5, no way they'll make their own engine.
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>>740016452
Ergo bg1, 2 and 4. Smart move. Likely owlcucks or Bioware will make the game. Chances are, they will get a new studio, but this I doubt. Too expensive.
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>>740016647
Didn't the city of Baldur's Gate actually have a lot of areas/maps cut out of the final version?
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Bg reimagined as a third person game like kotor or da:o would be fine. It is what it is, if you wanted to play the original, launch the original dipshit.
Like what are we still doing hoping a remake is a direct port.
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>>740010820
I can't wait for more gay sex and black elves
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>>740016756
The problem is that the og games get buried when that happens, now everytime you try searching for it anywhere, you'll get results for the remake instead.
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>>740016624
>he needs scripts
'A' key turns off companion AI completely, just do every action manually like in BG3 you love so much
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>>740016965
Rtwp such a good system it's either a pain in the ass to play or you need the AI to fuck you over
Brother I'm just telling you the core issue of the system, it is what it is. Stop having a meltdown
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>>740010820
In what engine? They don't own Larian's. Will they contract Owlcat or Obsidian for this?
Maybe reimagine the games as action rpgs in UE5. lmao.
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I won most encounters by making skeletons, buffing them and sending them in from a screen away.
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for me it's Icewind Dale
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>>740017128
It will be obsidian, they currently have no projects and love working on other people's IP.
They wanted the bg license for almost as long as the company existed
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>>740017146
you didn't beat the game
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>>740017273
god imagine how shit modern obsidian making a BG would be

lol
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>>740016842
I agree but it's going to happen regardless of how much bitching happens and it's time to just accept it. The original games exist as abandoned ware and can't be replaced outright like wc3.
Bg is in a better place than most being so moddable and having modern releases that actually function correctly with new tech
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>>740017113
>meltdown
im not the one with major butthurt over system i dont understand shitting up thread
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>>740017437
I understand it and that's the issue. I can see it's flaws and what's going wrong, and why rtwp turns people off.
You can't.
No game should have a turn AI off button built into it's fucking UI lol.
Clearly the AI has issues than that should have been addressed to begin with instead of needing a awkward bandaid
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>>740017273
Could be interesting, most probably not. But at least they still do RTwP, which I like.
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>>740010820
Jesus Christ stop rehashing, remaking, milking everything to death, you talentless, cocksucking corpo shits.
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>>740017113
Man you are retarded
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>>740012014
>female portraits based on the hotwives of a bunch of nerd cucks
Makes sense why the portraits in that game look fucking hideous
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>>740017785
>>female portraits based on the hotwives of a bunch of nerd cucks
no this is just you projecting your cuck fetish onto others, weirdo
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>>740010820
This is going to be led by Wizards of the Coast, by the way. The same WOTC that hired Corinne Busche, the director of Dragon Age Veilguard.
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>>740016647
no city on earth would allow random civilian buildings on your militarily important bridge. Those would all be in front of the bridge.
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>>740017867
leftoids always seem to fail upwards in this industry
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>>740016207
If you're allergic to menus then you shouldn't play CRPGs.
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>>740016965
>just do every action manually like in BG3 you love so much
Sure, while spamming spacebar to pause/unpause it.

Face it, Tiger: Turn-based is superior.
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>>740018032
You know you have a good argument when you cope instead of engaging with it
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>>740016838
>I can't wait for more gay sex and black elves
Can't tell if this is ironic or unironic these days.
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>>740018058
>spamming spacebar to pause/unpause
theres a setting which will pause game when character round is over, its retarded to play like that but hey thats what bg3 kids love nowadays.
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>>740017564
They literally have no creativity or ideas of their own and have to coattail on the superior works of those who came before. All they know is identity shit, because they inject that into everything they get their hands on. An original IP from them would be nothing but that, and they know deep down that won't sell. They have to try to gaslight old fans of existing IPs to build hype, even as they always admit they 'have to' update it for 'MODERN AUDIENCES™'. There's simply no one coming out of writing colleges with any real world experience that isn't related to social justice. None of them have gone to war or faced real injustice or strife. They have no experience beyond their safe and comfortable lives to draw on, and second-hand 'knowledge' their commie professors have imparted to them.
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>>740017867
>Wizards of the Coast
One the most aggresively woke corps out there.
I hope they don't hide all the woke content like Baldur's Gate 3 did in the trailers. They should be loud and proud about it like Larian is with Divinity.
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>>740017867
that's enough info to close the tab and never open future bg2 remake threads again.
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>>740017867
Kekaroo. If you thought BG3 was woke. Wait until this game comes out, lmao.
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>>740017917
>no city on earth

Good thing it's not on earth then.
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>>740013997
What's this referring to?
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>>740017867
If I see jeet and reddit shills working overtime for this I swear...
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>>740010820
Playing baldur's gate 1 enhanced edition and it has graphical glitches and the combat sucks. I fucking had to manually mod the game to have a silent protagonist. Otherwise it's mostly good but I can see why a remake may be a good idea. Gothic 1 also needed a remake.
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>>740010820
>with original co-lead
just like saints row remake or Gotham Knights right? what they mean by "original team"
>we have 5 guys from the original team, the others left the gaming industry or died or are somewhere else and they won't come back
99% to be shit
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>>740017867
Minsc is going to be replaced by a Mexican Orc Falconeer
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>ruin another franchise by making a demake/changing the genre
go play a different genre fucking shill
kys
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>>740020441
Minsc is pure reddit anyway
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>>740020525
Minsc is older than reddit
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99% its fake rumor, nobody would risk releasing it without fully voiced dialogue and that game has as many dialogue lines as bg3. Amount of work needed to create all BG2 maps, items etc in 3d, would be insane for even biggest studios. Theres also late game combat, imagine modern devs trying to understand 2e AD&D spell system and making lvl9 spell combat with contingencies, sequencers, defensive spell stripping vs lvl30 liches in 3d engine lmao.
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>>740015112
Most of /v/ & /vrpg/ treats Skyrim like that. Partially because of marketers and partially because they want to distance themselves from places like RPG Codex by adopting extremely normalfag takes. Also, being a Bethesdrone is the only tolerated means to be a chud but only the non-serious neutered racemixing White supremacist type.

>>740013994
There is no saving it.

>>740014367
>I think rtwp and turn based chads should kiss, the real threat are the button mashing action combat fags who want everything shallow and easy as fuck
Notice how nobody entertain that idea.
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So long as they update the portraits I don't care
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Leaked Jaheria model
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>>740022326
>AIslop
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>>740022691
So what? It looks good.
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icewind dale had some great portraits
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>>740013816
True, all the Beamdog additions feel so out of place. You can tell that most of BG1 was made by Star Wars nerds while all the Beamdog content was made by gay theater redditors. I think the biggest example of this is the cornball introduction of Baeloth.
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BG2 has an enormous pile of content. The project is doomed.
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>>740022779
No, it doesn't lmao
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>>740019936
Larian using AI to "explore" "options",
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>>740023213
It is objectively aesthetically superior and your lack of taste is noted.
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>>740022779
That's one way to say that you're a retard with shit taste.
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>>740010820
If they're gling to ignore the "enhanced edition" content then a remake is based. Otherwise I hope they die.
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>>740023271
>AIslop
>Having taste
That's pretty funny.
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Will he finally get to make his BG?
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>>740017564
>Jesus Christ stop rehashing, remaking, milking everything to death, you talentless, cocksucking corpo shits.

because

>that media that has problematic shit in it (not enough DEI)? yea that has to be fixed and the new one replace the old.

every book must be re-written
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>>740011076
I honestly hope it doesn't because original BG2 is just fine the way it is.
You shouldn't play a remake for the same experience or for the first time. Give me something cool, make it novel.
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>>740020525
As someone that doesn't use reddit what does pure reddit mean in this case?
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>>740023343
You are the one pretending that asymmetry is somehow artistically superior.
>>740023420
Why is that funny? If stable diffusion produced aesthetically low quality works, then your argument would be that it is inferior for that reason. But neither of you are arguing this because you know it isn't true, you are just repeating a dogma that AI le bad and providing no additional reasons because you are coping.
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>>740023756
Nigga it doesn't even look like the original character, go spam your slop that nobody gives a shit about somewhere else and fuck off you disgusting Indian street shitter.
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>>740023883
Yes, it looks better.
>spam
1 post is spam?
>fuck off you disgusting Indian street shitter
Having aesthetic sensibility does not make me Indian. Indians did not make this technology, and they are irrelevant to the discussion of your lack of taste and anger management issues.
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>>740011181
Triplicate remake production.
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>>740010820
Yeah I guess the industry is so dead that their last dying hope is to remake something that was made by more talented people.
Ok, cool, you've remade a good game and extended your company's life by a couple of years. But then what? You can't immediately remake your remake so now you're left with nothing. But I guess that doesn't matter when the industry only thinks about how much the line goes up each quarter.
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>>740023756
Why are you getting so upset? It's not like you actually made anything in the first place to be mad about.
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>>740011181
fpbp
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>>740024002
I don't know where you are detecting this from me. This original BG2 portraits are ass, they are indefensible, and stable diffusion ones are objectively better on every metric. If that makes you upset, then so be it.
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>>740023951
Yup, you're brown.
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>>740024091
You should not cede the entire idea of aesthetic sensibility to brown people in the aggregate. You having no taste does not make other people brown, it just makes you dumb.
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Shant be playing.
Have never played a remake, never will.
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>BG1
Absolute kino swords and sorcery adventure where you get to live your own cool adventure and turn the Sword Coast into your very own playground while you aim to defeat the bad guy
>BG2
A sloppy powerscaling anime haunted house where you get yanked around by the writer's favorite Coldsteel the Hedgeheg and everybody yaps all the time
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>>740024084
The BG portraits look great, much better than the cheap looking AI dogshit you posted earlier hoping that it would amaze the masses but unfortunately they're not as retarded and easily amused such as yourself.
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>>740024320
They do not. They look awful. You are extremely classless and low IQ. Did you play BG2 when you were a kid? It must be nostalgia goggles infecting your mind. They are indefensibly shit.
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>>740020267
You forgot 1%
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>>740024520
>You are extremely classless and low IQ.
You're the one that likes AIslop, not me.
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>>740024684
Yes, I like the thing which is objectively aesthetically superior to the shit and low quality portraits you are defending for some reason you refuse to elaborate on.
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There is not an argument to be made. When you pick the left, you are simply announcing to the world that you side with the ugly and inferior.
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>>740016647
You severely underestimate how absolutely enormous BG2 is. You basically go on adventure at every bloody screen of the city. It's magnitudes larger than anything Larian did with BG3, impossible to fully replicate in 3d.
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>>740017867
It's amusing how they keep writing ''the director'' because they can't bring themselves to acknowledge the freak as a woman, but also fear being seen as chuds.
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Fuck me, you oldfags are insufferable
No wonder people shit on RTWP when people like you grognards are the ones defending it, thank fuck that whole system died so your kind can die off in the old people homes
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How badly will they butcher Aerie?
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>>740024798
>Soul vs Soulless
You're only further proving to everyone that you have shit taste.
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>>740025030
They'll probably make her less whiny. Can't have a crying damsel character in a MODERN AUDIENCE game.
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>>740025127
The basis of your taste is that "worse is better" which is my whole argument.
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>>740023451
He's unironically overhated and has more correct opinions about game dev than wrong ones by a factor of at least 20
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>>740025132
That's ironic because she turns into "keep your hands off my man" action heroine later in the quest chain.
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>>740024798
That isn't even the good AI portrait of Imoen, though. Regardless of AI arguments, it is true that BG2 portraits are absolute garbage, and are just traced over photographs of actual celebrities/models of the time. Nalia is Drew Barrymore, Valygar is Vin Diesel, Keldorn is Sean Connery, and so forth. If you think that traced photos of celebrities are fantastic stuff for a fantasy RPG, you are braindead.
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>>740025193
The same could be said for you especially when your slop looks obviously like AI just by glancing at it for 2 seconds.
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Assuming this is true (and most likely it isn't) there's NO WAY they'll leave Aerie and her questline alone. Expect them to either heavily downplay or outright write out the entire baby thing, and also to force the romantic rivalry with the tiefling no matter what you do; chick writers LOVE that kind of lame shit.
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>>740025319
She'll fight with Korgan rather than just leave the party when his harassment becomes too much. All the romance characters will now be open to same-sex relationships, there will be more male romance partners, and maybe even a way to keep multiple romance partners without having to use mods.
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According to some BG2 fags, pic related was fantastic artwork. Genuinely some of the worst portraits ever made for a CRPG.
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>>740025481
>Calling someone braindead while being an AIslop consoomer
Oh the ironing...
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>>740025507
The only thing that rightly deserves to be called slop is every single BG2 portrait released with the original game. The fact you cannot take off your nostalgia goggles and admit this speaks against your character.
>>740025481
I agree, and your pic is another great example of one that would be a better portrait. I don't care how it was made, unlike the rest of these anti-AI troglodytes.
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will they remake the original BG1 or the beamdog version that removes half the khalid/jaheira banter and adds trannies
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I have nothing but contempt for anyone working on this and especially anyone who wants this.
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>>740025758
You have yet to make a single coherent argument to defend your poor taste beyond "AI le bad because AI le bad".
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>>740024520
>nostalgia goggles
Did you even play BG2 or were you just looking for an excuse to post your shitty slop that no one gives a shit about? Maybe you try playing Starfield if you want randomly generated slop instead of an actual handcrafted world like Baldur's Gate.
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BG1 sucks dick. It needs a rework way more than BG2.
The characters are barely characters, the quests suck, Baldur's Gate is annoying as fuck with the wall, and the only interesting part of the game is Sarevok and he's barely in it.
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>>740026136
Yes, but I played it as an adult which allows me to be critical of it without crushing the soul of my inner child.
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>>740011076
>it is my favorite game of all time.
Then why would you care about a remake?
>>740011181
/thread
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>>740026170
>It needs a rework way more than BG2.
*BG3. Perfect for your kind.
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>>740026136
Traced over photos of actual people is not "handcrafted art" it's a lazy copout and the fact you are trying to justify it is laughable. Who even cares about the AI stuff? BG2 portraits were rightly mocked and criticized for years before AI was even a thing. Just about any other CRPG made has better portraits, since the artists for those games actually took the time to draw something creative and original.
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>>740025729
I don't think it's fantastic, but it's sovlful and it fits the influences of the time period, like Larry Elmore. The problem with current AI illustrations is that they default into post-WoW aesthetics that don't fit the spirit of BG2.
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>>740026461
>Who even cares about the AI stuff?
Based on their reaction to it, they believe it is Satanic and unforgivable for reasons I cannot comprehend and which they do not care to explain.
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>>740026461
Nice historical revisionism, Ranjeet but no, BG portraits are iconic and were used as avatars in gaming forums for decades. Turning the portraits into shitty looking AIslop reveals not only your own ignorance but lack of taste as well like a child who doesn't understand the world yet.
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>>740026461
Tracing over real people was the Bioware special.
They had to patch out some portraits of painted-over celebrities from Neverwinter because they weren't allowed to use them.
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>>740026916
>muh nostalgia
>jeets are comin after muh yummy game
>must defend. must defend the shitty portrait art. GET BACK JEETS, ILL CUT YE
You're pathetic
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>>740027120
>>740027145
Who are the people going to remember, the actual artists making the art or some shitty AIslop? I'm sure the answer is obvious.
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>>740026548
The AI argument is separate and irrelevant, though. BG2 portraits were trashed long before AI was even a thing, and for good reason.
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>>740025030
>Marriage and children
Oh my, very Hitlery. Maybe she needs to be gay and ugly?
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>>740026916
Why are you posting BG1 portraits when we are specifically discussing BG2 portraits?
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>>740027318
You keep refusing to acknowledge that the BG2 portraits are dog shit and the stable diffusion ones are better. You are twisting yourself in pretzels because you cannot acknowledge this. You defend actual genuine portraitslop and attack a superior product based on irrational dogma.
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Rajeesh stop posting AI portraits at this very moment!
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>>740027407
>The BG2 portraits look like shit in my opinion but I made them look even shittier with AI!
Nice argument dumbass, no wonder you like AIslop.
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>>740010820
>reportedly in development
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>>740027518
Why can you not acknowledge that it does not matter how they were created? All that matters is whether they are superior or not. And they are. And you're defending dog shit because you're dumb.
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>>740027318
I don't care about the AI argument. I'm just saying that using real photos and just painting over them was Bioware's thing.
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>>740027715
Yeah, because they were lazy hacks. It's so blatant when you compare stuff like IWD to Biowares portraits who actually had real artists working on the material.
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>>740027715
>using real photos and just painting over them was Bioware's thing.
Yet somehow it still doesn't look like obvious AIslop, wonder why that is?
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>>740027863
Because stable diffusion looks better and traced smudgy asymmetrical dog shit doesn't, presumably
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>>740011793
This. Everything good about baldurs gate is the antithesis of the modem videogame and to modernize it is to make it pointless to play because you just removed the raison d'etre
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>>740011852
Thank god the famous destiny 2 guy is now working in the BG2 remake.
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>>740027954
It doesn't look better, that's just you having shit taste just like the people that buy Mac computers.
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>le thac0 retards
Reminder that thac0 is just a retarded short-hand for what used to be a table you looked up.
You didn't even need to use any math at all but retarded fuckwits decided that 'acshually' because there was a shorthand they had to use it and because it used negative numbers it was too hard for them.
Fucking moronic.
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>>740028272
You're in denial and silently raging.
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>>740010820
As long as the rules and gameplay are the same and the only change is "it can play on modern systems without patches" then I don't see the issue
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>>740014518
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>>740028409
>muh anti ai troglodytes REEEE!
You sure it's me? Surprised you didn't bring up luddites already.
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>>740010820
What would be the point of remaking 2 without 1? The best part of the original trilogy is taking the same character throughout the entire saga.
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>>740028656
True, I made the mistake of playing 2 before 1 and I had no idea wtf was going on in the game.
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>>740010820
>I think that's a good thing. The system in BG2 is so outdated that I don't even know what I'm supposed to do
So you don't want to play baldur's gate 2, you just want to play a completely different game.
why are all remake fags like this
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>>740028609
Since you are low IQ it is not surprising that you have been unable to understand any argument I have made ITT. Demanding a higher quality of aesthetics is not AI fetishism. Your position is that low quality is preferable rather than "give in" to evil AI. You have never developed reasons behind your position beyond posting various buzzwords and accusing people of being Indian for disagreeing with your naive preference for poor quality art.
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>You must gather your party before venturing forth
>You must gather you par-
>*LOADING*
>You have been waylaid by enemies and must defend yourself
>For the fallen!
>Spare no one!
>Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!
>Vita Mortis Careo

Burned into my brain and i've not played BG2 since it released
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>>740029046
>with your naive preference for poor quality art.
I don't like AIslop though. I prefer the real stuff, not bootleg trash but I'm sure a third worlder like you would.
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>>740029198
It does not matter how it was created, all that matters is the end product. You are PRETENDING that BG2 originals are superior because you cannot make the REAL ARGUMENT that you actually want to make, which is that you are simply irrationally hostile to anything produced by an AI model for reasons you cannot explain and probably never arrived at by yourself.
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>>740029074
>BY TEMPUS' SHIELD
>yeeeeeeeees, oh omnipresent authority figure?
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>>740029074
>You're a queer fellow.
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Who is remaking it though? Owlcat would unironically be a good dev to make it.
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>>740029307
nta but I do the original BG2 portraits are superior simply because they fit the general aesthetics of the game time period despite being traced pictures. Most modern AI replaces utterly fail to fit the Elmore-influenced art of the period and can only produce WoW-adjacent shit.
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>>740029686
That's fair enough and I respect your opinion
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>>740029074
Yoshimi is willing
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>>740010820
There's so much icky stuff in those games the really really NEED remakes.
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>>740020678
And yet
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If you remove all the padding BG1 can be condensed in to just Act 1 of the BG saga.
It only had a handful of acualy meaningful quests. And many companions that had almost no character development.
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>>740029307
Lmao go back to talking to your AI chatbot girlfriend, faggot. Not only does your slop portraits look like shit but anyone with a room temp IQ can tell it's AIslop at a glance the same way they can tell you're a virgin loser at a glance.
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Baldur's Gate combat is only fun for about the first two thirds of 2.
All of BG1 and Throne of Bhaal is shit. The writing is the only thing holding up the series. Just about any combat change would be an improvement.
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>>740024309
based and truepilled!!!
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>>740029686
>they fit the general aesthetics of the game time period
BG1's portraits were superior.
BG2's are just ugly from an artistic standpoint, traced or not.
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IDK how you can remake it.
It would be cool to still get Michael Bell or Haer'Dalis, dude is 87 now, but David Warner died
The plot is also a huge sidequest and most of the appeal to me would be revisiting Amn during that time period. It's a medieval period piece with an already fleshed out world.would be like adapting GOT into a video game
Maybe the chance of getting to explore Waterdeep or Anchorome would be exciting, but the BG2 plot otherwise seems like such a poor target for a remake
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>>740030173
I always preferred 2's to 1's, but to each their own.
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>>740030015
You have been bested and irrefutably dismantled and destroyed over the course of this dialogue. I will take the small amount of XP I have gained from slaying such a meagre and unimpressive creature and be on my way.
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>>740030096
This anon contains the worlds knowledge
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>>740030287
This, the Imoen portrait in BG1 looks like a 40 year old mom compared to the one in BG2.
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>>740030373
This coming from the guy who likes AI, you might as well be a bot on Very Easy Difficulty.
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>>740013061
BG2 encounter design is atrociously bad, so no it doesn't make it great to play.
Pathfinder WOTR proves that having turnbased system alone is not enough to make the combat good, you need good encounter design.
Imagine turnbasing your way through the game fighting the same pack of wolves and skeletons for 100th time.

Bioslop can't into good gameplay, we all know this, just remake the game with modern presentation and cinematics and thats about it.
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>>740010820
It'll include the Beamdog characters, right? Or at least Neera?
WotC like her enough for her to be in the MtG set.
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>>740030287
While I say this. Most of the times I play these games. I use custom portraits, something like this one, or the ones made by Ryoko Kui.
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>>740030595
Nobody has a militant preference on what techniques were used in the making of artwork unless they are deranged or completely insane. Do you get this hostile about watercolors or oils? It should not matter. It does not matter to me. Why it matters to you is something you are unable to articulate (likely due to your limited IQ ceiling)
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>>740010820
I literally just bought the originals. Should I wait for the remakes or do the originals still hold up?
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>>740030073
>The writing is the only thing holding up the series
I can't imagine what kind of low IQ subhuman you have to be to think the writing of bg1 & 2 is good.
they are not even the best written bioware games
they are not even the best written games of their respective year of release
imagine putting them next to any decently written fantasy story.
its not even top 100 stories in games not even top 50 rpgs.

/v/ has deteriorated into oblivion
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>>740030507
Imoen, Jaheira, and Aerie are like the only good ones and they still suffer from the weird Mexico Yellow tint and other flaws
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>>740029198
>I prefer the real stuff
The "real stuff" here is people tracing over a photo, and thus just as fake as anything shat out by a model.
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>>740030761
>The guy who needs AI because he can't think for himself calling others low IQ.
The jokes write themselves.
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Wizards, tag me in, bro
I've got ideas for D&D that aren't just rehashing Baldur's Gate
Picture it: a vidya adaptation of the Haunted Lands trilogy
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>>740012346
It's the correct opinion.
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>>740015959
The EE games both use the same version of the engine. The original BG is on an older version of the Infinity than BG2. You guys were talking about two different things.
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>>740031048
You are legitimately low IQ though and your only inputs here are to reframe me with positions I do not hold, use tired buzzwords, or claim I am from the third world because I do not like shitty artwork. At no point in this interaction have you ever explained your own position, because you do not have the capacity to.
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>>740031021
Even just one picture of the real stuff is much more memorable, iconic, soulful, has a consistent artstyle, and much more pleasing to look at than any of the billion of forgettable slop images.
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>>740031309
You already proved that it looks like shit with your own slop portraits.
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>>740011076
Why would you implement faux rts/diablo combat for retards in 2026
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>>740031540
It's objective. There is no argument that the stable diffusion ones aren't better. Your only possible position is that you prefer low quality low resolution strange blurry asymmetric images out of obstinate defiance against your own impending obsolescence.
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>>740031725
Thanks for proving once again that it looks like shit. It doesn't even look like Yoshi. It's ironic you call people low IQ when in reality you have to be low IQ to be impressed by this dogshit in the first place.
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>>740011076
Real-Time with Cringe has always been and will always be an inferior and retarded in-between gameplay system compared to Turn-BASED or just normal real-time gaming.
There's a reason everyone dropped it in the first place and every new game that tries it inevitably patches in a turn-based mode.
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>>740032109
I made another thread if you want to continue getting buttmad at me >>740031095
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>>740032434
No need, I already see you're getting buttfucked while coping in that thread as well.
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>>740010820
>>740010820
the fuck. how would even remake of bg work? those games are totally different from anything nowadays, even newer crpgs. it's great because it's old. what's next? remaking ultima vii?
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>>740032801
What? Pillars of Eternity is a modern RPG. It would look like that. It would look like Pillars, except with DnD instead of Obsidians own system.
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>>740024309
no. they're both great in their own rights. bg1 is a comfy low level adventure with a huge map, there's nothing like it. but try playing as an evil character, literally the whole game breaks
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>>740032875
Pillar is barely a rpg .Its a novel with light interaction.
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>>740032875
poe is shit. and it is nowhere as detailed as bg2. baldur's gate was a product of it's time. no way this will end up good, they'll just try to copy bg3
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>>740032958
>comfy
Translator's Note: Comfy means boring.
>huge map
Translator's Note: Huge Map means empty space with nothing to do in it besides slowly walk across it at a snail's pace hoping to maybe find one mediocre and forgettable quest so you didn't waste your time.
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>>740029074
>"You have been waylaid by enemies and must defend yourself"
>hear "SO I KICKED HIM IN THE HEAD TIL HE WAS DEAD, HAHA"
>mfw see 6 archers surrounding me
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>>740016106
>David Warner is dead
Thing is, if you wanted to just use his voice, you could use AI copy with another actor. David Warner like Tony Jay often played himself and there's billions of voice clips of him out there with that performance. You could get on-mode about as well as Marnie still does.
But crucially, David Warner added soul to what was otherwise a conventional villain, and I dunno if it would resonate as strongly with audiences if you use his ghost to voice the lines.
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>>740025132
This is the only Bioware game where I didn't want to romance anyone with how annoying the girls are.
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>>740034921
>if you wanted to just use his voice, you could use AI
Anon, stop. You'll give them a heart attack.
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>>740029074
>>740029323
>>740029345
>>740029798
>>740034130
based. they don't make them like they used to
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>>740010820
what's outdated about them? they could just change thac0 to the more standardized attack roll/AC system and that'd be it. Maybe let races other than humans dual class, but that's all I can really think of mechanic wise.
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>>740029074
>Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!
Cringe. He died in the lab.
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>>740010820
Remake in general is dumb but remaking a crpg is dumber
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>>740031271
hes posting screenshots from EE that entire time and if hes talking about OG hes still wrong cause in oBG1 move speed was much lower than BG2
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>>740011076
I'd rather they just do it like BG3. BG3 is really good.
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>>740037690
you're a tranny
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A remake means improved graphics.
Improved graphics means that shorties might get better bodies and I'll finally be able to tell what the fuck a xvart or gibberling is supposed to look like instead of being a vague humanoid shape.
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>>740031725
why do u post this dogshit AI remakes, its not everyones taste but its better than your abominations
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>>740037942
Yeah they're good too. I like em.
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>>740010820
Total Remaker Death
Just make a NEW game
Nigger
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>>740010820
>The system in BG2 is so outdated that I don't even know what I'm supposed to do.
There's a reason the game came with a 250+ page manual, since it explained the ADnD mechanics in full there.

Aka RTFM.
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Imagine being Bhaal in that cave and having to be all like "damn, Gwah'blubluh'bluh, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your slimy body and horrific fishy monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both my mortal self and the divine me." when all he really wants to do is murder another 1600 year old great wyrm. Like seriously imagine having to be Bhaal and not only sit in that chair while a Kuo-toa flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her flab and scaly skin, and just sit there, minute after minute, hour after hour, while she perfected that mating dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as every other fish in the tribe tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, GWAH'BLUBLUH'BLUH LOOKS LIKE THAT?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her piscine fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of murders and assassinations and later alleged avatar manifestations for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight from the ascension of the Dark Three. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her bulbous stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in her "coralesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the priest-king calls for another mating, and you know you could kill every single Kuo-toa in this cave before the guards could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Bhaal. You're not going to lose your future resurrection over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>740038104
you could play dnd with that manual easily
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>>740038920
I mean it literally is the same system bar a couple changes/conveniences for the sake of letting it work in a realtime setting.
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>>740010820
Finally this overrated uncslop will be playable.
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>>740011181
This, this and this.
I love Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn, I spent my childhood playing it over and over... so why the fuck would I ever play a Remake or the Enchanted edition?
The games are done.
I played them.
That's it.
Why the fuck do people want to re-release them?
If you want to sell them again sure go for it but don't waste time "upgrading it" as if that's impressive.
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>>740029074
>MMMHH-MMM, TASTES LIKE CHICKEN
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>>740010820
>I think that's a good thing.
Why? RTWP is shit and was a fad around 2000 that they won't do again, and there's 0 chance they have the production values that BG3 had and implement anywhere near the level of detail or reactivity. It's just going to be a buff/debuff and dating sim simulator, but with slightly less gay sex than BG3 so not even fags will like it.
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>>740040615
>slightly less gay sex than BG3
What if they make all characters playersexual?
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>>740041520
there are mods which do that already
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>>740041584
Enabling romance regardless of race/gender is possible with mods or belt/surge shenanigans, but it's still a bit fucky with gendered dialogue and such.
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>>740041520
Yeah like I said, slightly less gay than 3.
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>>740010820
For how much BG2 is shilled for its storytelling and characters I found it kind of a huge disappointment on that front... The only characters I really cared about were all the enhanced edition quirk chungus they threw at us and Aerie.
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>>740012779
How is Icewind Dale on that front? I always felt like I didn't really get much control playing BG1 and 2 to do stuff like backstabs or magic but I hear Icewind is the more gameplay focused of the games so maybe the real time with pause feels better?
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>>740042319
it's because you've likely played a bazillion of different iterations of the exact thing BG2 trailblazed for the genre. BG2 has good characters but their interactions are poorly implemented and are pretty random for the most part.
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>>740042319
horrible taste
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>>740042319
Literally no one shills BG2 for its global story. The fact you liked Neera tells me you have a massive shit taste though.
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>>740023617
unfunny forced humor, like he says and does things that are "funny" and eveyone pretends he is super funny, but he isn't, unless you are like 5 years old I guess
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>>740011181
I hope they remake them just to make clowns like you seethe even more.
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>>740042319
>enhanced edition quirk chungus
Anon... Minsc, Edwin, and Jan were BioWare originals...
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>>740013994
>Eye of the beholder who was once voiced by Tony Jay now looks like this.
Where did it all go so, so wrong.
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>>740042319
>and Aerie.
Couldn't stand her. 2 also made me hate Jaheira with all the terrible, terrible romance shit. BG2 really ruined RPGs.
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>>740016127
>Get the fuck outta here, the beginning of BG1 where half your party has 10hp is much worse.
In base BG1, you can actually die in Gorion's death scene if you roll a mage with low CON.
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>>740012014
>1 is arguably better
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>740010820
Why, so people can get mad about how badly 3 handled the characters of 2?
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I really hope they don't BG3ify it because it will be a fucking slideshow and take up 300gb of storage before we even start thinking about the ruleset.
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>>740043746
The only one who was badly handled was Viconia.
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>>740025729
you chose their best portrait to make your point
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>>740044036
Sarevok too, and Gorion's Ward too since BG3 defaults to the Abdel Adrian garbage
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>>740029074
>fater than chiktikka fastpaws!
Aerie is so cute
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>>740030096
Whenever I see screens of the og interface, it just looks so right, I think missed out playing EE, why couldn't they add this as an option?
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>>740030741
>jaheira
Jesus Christ man, what is wrong with you?
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>>740016647
How many years of dev time and actual, honest love for the material did that cost?
They'll never get close to that.
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He will be portrayed as an evil incel
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>>740044535
https://github.com/dive-bomber/Classic-BG-UI/releases
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>>740044409
Nah. I can believe BG3 Sarevok. He was a horndog in BG1 with multiple lovers and not exactly a morally upstanding gentleman.
The Abdel shit is just stuck no matter what because of those trash books unfortunately.
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Lightning bolt sniping, is this a known exploit?
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>>740024883
Honestly I'd be okay in them 'compressing' the city a bit as they make it open-world-friendly. Just keep the main areas, the key buildings, the general movement flow, etc. and make parts of what was the background anyway inaccessible. The issue is that even then I don't see which modern studio could pull it off - BG2 is more than just Athlaka.
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>>740044673
He was an evil incel...
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>>740011076
Clearly not your favorite game if you want a remake of it.
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>>740011446
That's what happens when the second game is way more famous than the first game. I'm surprised they didn't do the same with Dead Space.
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>>740044673
he already was one
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>>740044673
he's a serial rapist, I guess they will either retcon that out because it's triggering or make it more important to make a point
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>>740010820
>demake removes core features to streamline it to BG3 players
>adds troons and modern politics in story
Sloppity Slope
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>>740045073
SH2 has a stand alone story, BG2 is a direct sequel, you can't enjpy it properly without the context of BG1, it makes the game much worse, it lessens the impact of the capture and death of your old companions, it removes all context.
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>>740045693
BG3 is not less complex than than BG1-2, it's just has a better designed interface.
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Any fun mods for BG1/2?
The more content the better like more quests etc.
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>>740045714
>you can't enjpy it properly without the context of BG1,
Oh yeah? Then why did I spend tens of hours of my childhood playing the demo while never knowing anything about the first game?
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>>740045843
you were a child, I doubt you engaged with the game at a deep level
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>>740045714
Don't agree with that. BG1 barely has any roleplaying parts, its just a loose adventure until the final part wheres its revealed you are a bhaalspawn.
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>>740030761
If I get an AI to write a response will you treat it the same as one I wrote?
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>>740045805
I haven't played them but some guys was making theses complex recent mods for bg2

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/88425/released-mod-call-of-the-lost-goddess-a-quest-mod-for-bg2ee
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>>740046580
>there's literally a mod that adds the entire NWN campaign to BG2
what the fug
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/88115/mod-neverwinter-for-baldurs-gate
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>>740045805
>another instant win aoe spell
woah
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>>740046791
Yeah the mod scene is very active, its cool to see
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>>740047001
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>>740047095
>the mod scene is very active
>2000+26
Are there any good companion mods yet?
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>>740046067
If I couldn't tell that it wasn't you, then yes. But why would you need an AI to help you have a conversation
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>>740011076
>It better have real-time with pause combat like the original.
Don't worry, it will. Although they will probably tack on a retard-based combat mode for Larian Losers that can't think in real time.



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