Objectively superior. Why do we hate AI again?
looks like shit
>>740031095>scar is gone>fucked teeth>weird hair on her right made of solid mass>doesn't understand her clothing is mostly straps and soft material and made stuff metal
it's slop made from algorithms derived from good things without human imagination or intuition
>>740031335>human created imperfectionsheckin sovl>AI created imperfectionsSLOP, SLUDGE
>>740031095Why is AI so easy to spot and why is it's always seemingly the same style?
>>740031396And why should I care? All human derived artwork is created via the same process of copying off things that are better.
>>740031421Correct
>>740031421>>740031486please die from a bophal gas leak jeet
bait
I thought beauty is subjective?
>>740031095nose way different. the hair ornamentations look terrible
There are /v/tards among us who are pretending to prefer the left because they cannot admit to themselves that they actually have no taste.
>>740031095>Left: Imoen>Right: Heroin
>>740031573>hallucinates a new tattoo out of nowhere>transforms hair ornaments into something entirely different, merged with her hair>eye and lip size/shape are entirely different>skin tone entirely different
>>740031816>makes it better>makes it better>makes it better>makes it betterProblem?
>>740031421Yep.
I prefer Kui
>>740031534You thought wrong, bucko. It's quantifiable. It's measurable.
>>740031816>Now he's complaining because it's not sovless
>>740031534Nobody said that.
>>740031484It just maps over like 3 different facial types and its even worst for men
Weren't the originals traced over photos?
>>74003188430x better than OP's AI slopthis is gonna be good for small studios and indie devs that are broke, and it's only gonna get better, but at this point it's ass
>now woman have a dick>so its betterOP , like always
Need I say more?
>>740031095Why completely change her face?
>>740032040Yeah, say more about being a try hard ragebaiting faggot.
>>740031987Yes, which is funny bc the anti-AI spergs are pretending that tracing over a photo is now "legitimate authentic artwork" and that AI models which are basically doing the same thing, for some reason aren't.
>>740031421What imperfections does the first one have?>>740031573It's not about being hotter.
I would dislike AI on principle but the second order effects of displacing all of the progressives from western game development are too desirable. The arrival of AI in force to game development will be an act of cosmic justice.
>>740031095These are both shit, and the right one isn't shit because of AI, it's shit because of the chosen style. It's literal HD tumbler trash.
>>740032101Could you let me know exactly why stable diffusion's objectively superior aesthetic output makes you rage? Thanks.
>>740032040Yeah. Left looks better as a piece of art. Right is a generic piece of fart.
>>740031095I hate westoid crap
>>740032145Well that's the thing, the AI is shit for choosing a shit style.
>>740032130It will displace all the conservatives from western game development too
>>740032168>as a piece of artLeft is a badly traced over photo of Drew Barrymore lmao
>>740032227That's the person who promted it/chose the model
>>740032314Still better than the shit on the right. Drew Barrymore is a real person, so the the left looks better.
>>740032282Yeah, all 4 of them
>>740031484because it has only a handfull of styles and he use the most popular ones like anime shit or realism >>740032040huh, they are wearing make-up before going into a dungeon to fight monsters ?
>>740031884These portraits are honestly what got me to read Dungeon Meshi. At first glance I just thought they were generic portraits, but when I learned it was a sweaty CRPG playing manga artist that enjoyed BG enough to make a set of portraits it made me read the comic and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Honestly wish she had a blog about playing CRPGs or something because the disconnect between RPGs-west and RPGs-east always fascinates me and I rarely hear things from their perspective on it
>>740032341Well we would have to see the prompt, then.
Huh
>>740031534Modern artists invented that lie to shill their slop, but it has backfired on them with a fury
comical reminder this was made by modern "humans"
>>740031095Both are shit
>>740031335I really don't understand how AIfags have zero standards at all. the first thing I noticed was the weird scaly clump in her hair, you'd think anyone trying to prove a point on how AI looks great and you can't tell people use it would at least cherrypick a generation that doesn't look like shit.unless this IS the cherrypicked, cream of the crop generation and everything else was way worse, in which case fucking yikes
>>740032476>Putting Bazz in an alternate outfit because she's too iconic otherwiselmao
>>740031884Most of them are perfectly fine but what the fuck is going on with Yoshimo, dude looks like some Tumblr Asian
Anti-AI fags be like "What imperfections does the portrait on the left even have??? It is human sovl created perfection preferable to any AI slop *spits* "
>>740031095>shit made by human hands>shit made by clanker handswow they're both awful in bed
The BG portraits were always absolute shit.
>>740032514In the dead of night when the lights are off and my brain is floating free, I sometimes think the retarded AI shills with zero standards are aliens communicating to us through the internet trying to ask us why the fuck one picture is better than the other because they're soulless grey clones spawned from bio-vats of abducted rural American cum and can't tell themselves
>>740032514>you'd think anyone trying to prove a point on how AI looks great and you can't tell people use it would at least cherrypick a generation that doesn't look like shit.Wow, really makes you think, could OP be baiting? I can't figure it out, could he really inentionally post some dogshit to bait 500 replies?
>>740032382>huh, they are wearing make-up before going into a dungeon to fight monsters ?Reddit argument. Realism is only invoked by your types to attack beauty, when realism would mean no "strong female characters", it is disregarded as storytelling being aspirational.
>>740032514I prefer stable diffusion because I actually have standards.
>>740031095Right looks like a crack whore, left looks like a woman who was tortured. You are a faggot and objectively wrong. (((Ai))) has zero use cases beyond incest porn.
>>740032604
Andy Warhol, Wassily Kandinsky, Henri Matisse, Jackson Pollock, even Van Gogh and Picaso, they reduced art to sludge and because of that allowed AI "art" to be considered legitimate by many.
>>740032113>What imperfections does the first one have?The whole ugly thing she has going on.
I literally use AI portraiture for all of my RPG needs now. I think the anti-AI fags are just the new anti-Piracy fags, they're gonna whine endlessly so there's not point convincing. There's also a point where you shouldn't "brag" about using piracy or AI either. It does objectively look better, no shit it's trained in the collective aesthetics of what people actually like, people saying otherwise are coping.
>>740032650>massive emerald amulet just vanished entirelyevidently not.
>>740032630>>740032629What is the actual argument for preferring the inferior portrait on the left? Just because AI makes you butthurt doesn't mean you need to lose all standards.
>>740031095>>740031421>>740031573>>740032040>>740032581>>740032650>>740032761
>>740031573left looks like an elf or some fantasy race right looks like random instagram whore with temu zelda ears
>>740032407You don't need too. It looking the way it does is entirely the fault or the person who prompted it.
>>740031095I would rather eat dog shit that has sovl than something that looks alright but has no sovl.
>>740032650>Ai turns every brunette into jennifer connelly based
>>740032774You can stop now
>>740031095If you can tell it's AI it will never be superior.
>>740032787I'm English. Anti-AI fags have no arguments beyond buzzwords, insults and projecting brown skin onto everyone.
>>740032820I just wanna see the prompts anyway. Is he really asking the AI to make them look like random instagram whores with temu zelda ears, or is he being vague and AI is just doing it?
>>740032163Probably because there's no thought or human intuition behind it, only an algorithm trying to reconstruct it based on real images, except with no real imagination, which is why it ends up making ugly nonsensical decisions, like the ones the other anon pointed out. If you think it captures real beauty, you are just a goy. Real beauty can only be captured by a human with real emotions and imagination. Even the crudest scribble is superior to the automated garbage you just posted.
>>740032774yeah making everyone the same glossy dead eyed plastic surgery victim is really fucking superior
>>740032848Translation: "Please stop hitting me"
>>740031884Played through with her portrait set, it was enjoyable.
>>740031884kui is a generational talent at drawing appealing characters, so its not that big of a surprise she does better than generic ai model
>>740032957>BG2>Smiling ImoenIt's over
>>740032905It doesn't fucking matter. All that matters is does it look better or not. The answer is yes, it does. End of discussion. The humans who created the originals were also following "an algorithm" in their heads tracing across photos of existing celebs with little thought or originality, and the result was a crude and low quality output which people are bizarrely defending and excusing.
>>740033000Check your eyes again, it's the jaded version.
>>740032104Tracing over a photo still takes more skill than AI raj.
>>740032774>inferiorHaving zero love for the original isn't a winning argument. If you show people a "modern" version of the Mona Lisa where she looks like a roastie with dozens of filters and a phone in her hand then start crapping on the original painting nobody will take you seriously.Anyways, for your original question: because AI makes everything dogshit and people are sick and tired of it. It's actively killing the internet and our media even harder than the consequences of giving everyone in the world smartphones with internet access.
>>740032939>me*yourself
>>740032891The latter can be possible depending on what model is ised, but that's still the fault of the person who prompted it because they chose the shit model.
>>740032891its absolutely the AI doing this shit because all its trained on is generic artstation style "epic" pictures. its the same reason that geforce AI upscaling shit looked so embarrassing, all the footage was trained off instagram influencers taking into a ring light so all the faces were caked in makeup and the lighting inexplicably hit everyone dead on even if the angles are contradictoryits the issues retards training and using these AI things don't understand, theres no real attempt at artstyle or even logical composition, the AI just shits out a hashed together image that looks close enough.
>>740033024>What materialism and utilitarianism does to a mf
>>740033024Not a fucking argument.>running the marathon is the same thing as just driving a car to the finish lineYou shouldn't talk if you have zero appreciation for the art or human effort.
>>740032860>>740033024
>>740033092The process is irrelevant. All that matters is the output. It doesn't matter if the picture was hand painted pixel by pixel by Tibetan children, or produced by a model. >>740033098The original BG2 portraits are not even in the same galaxy as Leonardo's work. It is an insult to compare them.
>>740033150no, it's as simple as: retards don't realize the importance of artstyle.someone who thinks art can look objectively better than other art is low IQ enough to post this comparison thread, and is therefore low IQ enough to know fucking nothing about artstyle.
>>740032860I don't worship satan is all, sorry that you got tricked into selling your soul.
>>740033229if all that matters is the output why do you constantly downplay and excuse AI hiccups and fuckups
>>740032891Combination of model used and having denoise too high so it's overriding too much and the dude's not prompting for everything which you can see easily in examples like >>740032774 where her eyes go from dark brown to green. He COULD provide better examples but it's up to you to decide if it's incompetence, making shit images to be an agent provocateur, or just the urge to shitpost
>everyone is using drag and drop UE5 assetsleftist quiet>posts generated art leftist seething and raging?????
>>740033024>and the result was a crude and low quality output which people are bizarrely defending and excusingYour mistake is thinking that the original being shit work justifies you replacing it with dogshitThere are already alternative portraits that look charming available, like those drawn by the dungeon meshi chick, nobody needs your slop
>>740032040Tori Spelling???
>>740033189It is a "fucking argument" actually because the process by which a CRPG character portrait is created is completely and utterly irrelevant to the function it serves as a reflection of that in-game character. All that matters is whether it reflects that character suitably or not. You people do not even know how much renaissance artists used tools to make their lives easier, copied from each other, made casts, did whatever they could to ensure the output was high quality. Not a single one of them would have defended low quality because it was "human" like you clueless retards do.
>>740033024It does matter you consoomer retard, it's the same reason why AAA games with le amazing graphics fail because it's soulless garbage just like AIslop.
>>740033345Sure those portraits look good, if you are an anime watching pedophile. But for the rest of us, stable diffusion should be good enough.
>>740033331this dude has made these threads constantly and sometimes just posts actual art assets pretending to be AI because one time he did it with a AI generated crayon scribbling. I think at some point it goes beyond shitposting for teh lolzorsI think once you repost a bait thread more than twice its just delving into full mental illness
>>740032435you need to be 18 or older to post on this sitehttps://youtu.be/7xYO-VMZUGo?si=ZGB0N3EQK4JOdu8t&t=71
>>740033365>Not a single one of them would have defended low qualityYes, they would all be heavily offended by AIslop if you resurrected them and exposed them to it. Glad we're on the same side.
>>740033315Where have I done such things? Stop arguing with an imaginary strawman. But more importantly to your question, why do you EXCUSE human fuckups as "sovl" and yet EXCORIATE AI fuckups as inexcusable?
this kills the "art degree"
>>740033365>All that matters is whether it reflects that character suitably or notDo you not see all the details the AI versions fuck up?
>>740033189This is all well and good if my task is to judge the effort, I'll say "k good". What if I want a portrait that looks good? It sounds like you're saying >I want to go to the store quickly... >you can't use a car, you need to run a marathon >why? >the sheer effort of a marathon >i'm not running a marathon rn
>>740033491They would be all in on AI as just another tool of many in their ever burgeoning arsenal of tricks for creating great works.
>>740031095>Pigs and their slop.
Eternal reminder that AIpajeets are to art what troons are to real women. You will never pass, no matter how much you try to disguise what you really are and claim that you're exactly the same or even better as the real thing.
>>740033538Do you not see Aerie's lop-sided asymmetrical eyes in the original? Why do you excuse that?
>>740033576>They would be all in on AIThere's something genuinely sad about the fact that you believe this.
>>740033024>The answer is yes, it does.BUT IT FUCKING DOESN'T
>>740033425Alright you can drop the bait nowCome on
>>740031095>Invented some scales on the hair>This is somehow better than a humanThe absolute state...
>>740033281>toothless redneck who believes technology he cannot hope to fathom is dark satanic black magic that will steal his soul away
>>740031095That's some old AI art. Like, years old at this point.
>>740031095Why does her hair become a lizard tail?
>>740031948You have no clue what soul is, but then again, you wouldn't be an AI shill pajeet if you had one.
>>740033719>Lost sinner who has no hope of a better future
>>740033507the whole thread, you've been saying the ai portaits are better when they're missing massive details like bits of clothing, hairstyles, eye color, etc. and you're just ignoring that and moving on. and to answer your second part the human artists didn't require several billion dollars in investment, human artists aren't driving the price of all PC parts up, human artists aren't driving my fucking power bill up by needing thousands of data centers built, so yeah I'm a little more cynical of the AI machine thats fucking up literally everything around it when it makes some really obvious to spot flaws. and the flaws are not something a human would make, a person might be bad at drawing hands but it understands how many fingers a person typically has and that they don't twist and weave back into a person's body or hair. it seems nonsensical to be praising this as top of the line ultra high quality technology when it makes mistakes no human would ever make at literally hundreds of times the cost that even the most insane twitter artist strawman's commission prices would be.
>>740033331You can search baldur's gate 2 stable diffusion and easily find the beamdog thread I'm posting these from and it also links to the guy who made them originally if you are interested. I don't make AI stuff myself, I'm just here to defend it when it does things right, which /v/ cannot accept because it is irrational.
imagine years of learning wasted because a prompt did it better and faster.
>>740033607>that AIpajeets are to art what troons are to real women.Pajeets and trannies are already using AI to catfish the retarded facebook MAGA boomers.
>>740033340AI "art" is leftist to its core. It's an attack on merit and discipline and aims to drag everything down to "democratize" it. It's like a distillation of all that's wrong about leftist ideology.
>>740033427This is the only time I have ever made this thread and I did it because I created an absolute fucking shitstorm in this other BG2 thread >>740010820 when I innocently posted how I thought one stable diffusion image looked decent, and it caused an biblical earthquake of butthurt which deserved to be investigated.
>>740033856explain the snake hair
>>740033867Just like trannies are trying to catfish heterosexual men.
>>740031095>AI know how to make perfect 10/10 waifus out of every single character>western devs don't
>>740033891>Got so butthurt from getting BTFO he made a new thread.Hilarious.
>>740031095I agree that AI can do a better job, but that one ain't it
>>740033641I truly believe it and I have read the entire published collections of Leonardo's notebooks, and I am confident he would agree with me. They didn't think about art the way you think about art.
>B-grade siblingDamn, even gemini>>740031095 knows.
>>740033991Think about it only a "human" can make tash
>>740031335>scar is goneLooks better without it>fucked teethNot really.>weird hairCan be easily fixed with a once over.>clothingYou're right, she should be wearing less
>>740033459This lisping faggot still getting pushed? It's like when you guys (the same people) posting Stinner (or whatever his name was).
>>740033762To reject good art on the basis of its creation is a sin.
>>740031884These work surprisingly well as replacement portraits. If only she did all companions and the portraits a few other characters use.
I'm starting to think these threads are not bait
>>740034091AI jeets and trannies have set the bar so low, they make even the people who made Veilguard look talented in comparison.
>>740034091I bet AI can even make Tash hot
>>740033875Its funny because like how modern comedians gave up their integrity to follow ideology these artist have done the same.Now the freedom to create will be in everyone hands and they are buttpained from it.
Here op let me help ya shill with something /v/ thinks is irresistible.
>>740033794>they're missing massive details like bits of clothing, hairstyles, eye colorDon't care, they look better. > driving the price of all PC parts upDoesn't make the shitty BG2 portraits better; irrelevant.>I'm a little more cynical of the AI machineWell so am I, but those other issues are orthogonal to whether stable diffusion can produce superior portraits to the dogshit in the original BG2 release. Why can people not separate the issues in their head of artwork vs everything else? I can. You should be able to also. Just because I think a few images look better doesn't mean I also want human voice cloned AIs phoning up boomers to scam them. They're totally separate issues. >praising this as top of the line ultra high quality technologyI just think they look better than the BG2 originals. People are reading into that that I will defend shit quality works produced by AI (I don't) or defend anything else these models produce (I don't). I am discriminating and my only filter is quality.
>>740033867See also: Sasha Baron Cohen's "Who is America"Why does trickery just never work on democrats? It's interesting because the right is incredibly paranoid, you'd think they'd be the ones not to fall for it.
>>740034323IMOEN GOD DAMN IT STOP PISSING EVERYWHERE
>>740031095where can i find the mod with the anime portraits?
>>740034004When you call your opponent a brown skinned third worlder promoting evil Satanic technology, that means you are calm and not butthurt in the slightest.
>>740033629>>740034265Theseus ship. If it doesn't have the jank built-in, it's just not the same thing you became familiar with.
>>740034162I'm an open book, brother. I do not align with AI-tards on most things, but when they get it right, I have to give the devil his due. That's the difference between me and anti-AI chimps who lose their minds and refuse to admit when it does a good job.
>>740034392The cuckservatives are always older and out of the loop.
>>740034162Most of them are not baiting, AIfags are seething because nobody will give them praise for trying to take the shortcut.
>>740034363>>they're missing massive details like bits of clothing, hairstyles, eye color>Don't care, they look better.I thought the portraits were supposed to "reflect the character suitably". How is the AI version supposed to do that when it just throws out or changes design elements?
>>740034392Because most people on the right (and the left, for that matter) are normal people and normal people in mid-to-high IQ society are trusting.
>>740034624Because someone having or not having a broach is irrelevant in the broad scheme of things and such details are not necessary elements of their character.
>>740031816All these things are easily remedied by someone, anyone, who is willing to spend a few minutes on it.Seriously, where does your grievance with AI *actually* lie? Figure that out, and lead with it.
>>740034750They can't do it. All anti-AI chimps are impervious to reason and unable to articulate their positions.
>>740034429You mean these >>740033345 ?Herehttps://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate2ee/mods/49
>>740034894Thanks bwo
>>740034843>Poor guy is still going.Why are you getting so upset over people calling your slop as shit? It's not like you actually made it anyway.
if AI art is so good, then why does it need to learn from humie art?checkmate
>>740034971Learn English before attempting to do battle with me.
>>740034989It doesn't learn, it just copy pastes.
>>740034265You don't want art, you just want cheap goon material.
>>740034989>>740035054So does human art.
>>740034363your metric for them looking better isn't rooted in any sort of reality. I don't think you've once actually said WHY they look better. you've just asked why everyone thinks the original looks better and then said their criteria doesn't matter
>>740034121No such thing as "good" art kike. Art is not objective, but its means of production can be good or evil, and using (((ai))) is evil so anything produced by it is evil by extension.
>>740034735>It doesn't matter that it turns into generic slopIt does matter since those portraits were made the way they are to fit in with the rest of the game/world.
>added forehead wrinklesWhy is AI woke now?
>>740031095Because it's trash.
>>740035118Human art takes real skill though, adding 4k le masterpiece beautiful big bobs and vagene to your prompt does not.
>>740035138The idea that art is subjective is in fact highly subversive and Talmudic, and directly opens the door to everything that everyone hates about modern art. It is for ugliness because now ugliness can be considered beauty since everything is "subjective". Just admit I am right. That beauty is objective. And that sometimes AI can approximate to that. It won't kill you. >>740035121It's objective and inarguable.
>>740031095Left is ugly but right lacks of soul entirely
>>740035296if its objective then what is the objective reason they look better
>>740035258Making AI also took skill, but you don't seem to care about that.
>>740035354That's a brilliant question which gets into the philosophy of art and is well beyond my level, but I would guess the answer lies in mathematical simplicity and evolutionary biology's tendency towards purity and efficiency.
>>740035258>Human art takes real skill thoughlol what the fuck are you talking about?
>>740035118humans learning from humans. nothing wrong theresuperior silicon heart, however... learning from puny meat bags... quite humiliating, no?
>>740035434was it grok or chatgpt that gave you that answer
>>740033229>>740033340>>740033365>>740033719>>740033856>>740033991>>740034091>>740034265>>740035457
>>740032650>cleft chin removed Disgusting and utterly unfuckable.
>>740035502Neither of those models would tell you they don't know, like I just did. What is even the purpose of dialogue if people are using LLMs in lieu of their own opinions? I can't imagine doing it. I only ever use them to ask obscure historical questions.
>>740035434>but I would guess the answer lies in mathematical simplicity and evolutionary biology's tendency towards purity and efficiency>Simple and efficient art is just objectively better broWhat the fuck am I reading?
>>740035363>>740035457All your favorite movies and video games were made by talented and skilled artists, not frauds playing pretend with AIslop.
>>740035731They would have used AI if it was available to them, and the result would have been better than it otherwise was.
>>740035678Go read a philosophy of aesthetics book if you want a better answer.
>>740035363>Making AI also took skillObviously, that's why you had to wait for someone else to do it.
>>740031201I agree, the left does look like shit, right is much better.
I bet most of the so-called "pro-AI" crowds on /v/ don't even do anything productive with AI and instead care more about owning the anti-AI crowdsIf you think I am anti-AI then I'm sorry>>740031095>>740031573>>740032040>>740032650>>740032774sovlless vs sovlless
>>740035761Lol no, all AI can do is make bootleg slop of things that already exist. You're never going to see anything original come from AIslop.
>>740035931I'm not even particularly pro-AI myself I just see how badly it makes some people seethe when its output is not even half bad at all.>>740035943That's what human artists do too. You aren't an artist yourself or you would know better.
>191 repliessasuga master baiter
>>740034750>by someone, anyone, who is willing to spend a few minutes on it.That's the issue. Most people who use AI are too lazy even for that and it reflects in what they put out. AI could be a useful tool but the draw of it is to be able to put in next to no effort and get an at a glance passable result.
>>740034750>All these things are easily remedied by someone, anyone, who is willing to spend a few minutes on itSo the AI artists that spend so much effort genning couldn't even be bothered to spend a few minutes.
>>740035997It's both bait and also my real opinion.
>>740032104>funny bc the anti-AI spergsI remember when traditional artists were shitting on digital art because it's not real art and anyone can click a mouse.Now those digital artists are being the same.
>>740035731more like frauds stealing other peoples work who didnt copyright fast enough...have you ever wondered why everything is so shitty these days?why we are still remaking things from the 80s?
>>740035578SAAAAAAAARS
>>740031095right looks generic left looks like a gypsy queen mad in heat
>>740036035>>740036046>Expecting AIfags to be able to do anything besides click the generate button.They need AI for a reason.
>>740035943>Lol no, all AI can do is make bootleg slop of things that already exist. You're never going to see anything original come from AIslop.
>>740031095Downs syndrome >>740031573The eyes are STILL crooked but worse now because it tried to fix only one side but the face is tilted.
>>740035931AI is awesome. What corporations are doing with it is not. People on both sides can be extremely annoying about it.
>>740036176AIslop has set the bar so low that even CalArts look talented in comparison.
>>740036176See also
>>740036035>That's the issue. Most people who use AI are too lazy even for that and it reflects in what they put outYour grievance is with the tool, not the people.Why is the tool bad?
>>740036115Orcs don’t find non orcs attractive. Stop fetishizing orcs.
Faggy liberals was crying about digital art when it first got going as well, now look at them all in photoshop making slop for patreon
>>740036046Why is the TOOL bad?You keep shitting on the tool and switching your reasons once one gets destroyed.You're like a jew with race and religion cards.
>implying AI won't go "rogue" and start killing humans on such a scale people will start calling it the Antichrist but a "good" AI will emerge and start fighting the "bad' AI and people will call it the second coming even though they're just two sides of the same coin Literally screencap this post and revisit it in 2030.
>200 fucking replies to some shitjeet's AI slopholy fuck what the hell is wrong with you guys?
>>740031573>that they actually have no taste.that is rich coming from trans artist, I mean ai slopper
full circle
>>740031095Good morning saar. Please to be doing the needful. Rape you later my darling.
>>740036413>you are le Indian>NO you are le brown>NO WAIT you are le trannyThis is what anti-AI chimps think constitutes an "argument".
>>740036343I didn't know they had liberals in India where you live.
>>740036410>a "good" AI will emerge and start fighting the "bad' AI
>>740035457hey im playing avowed right now. RIP to my nigga garryck i dont know why they had to do him like that
>>740031484>why is it's always seemingly the same style?Because most sloppers are just trying to make generic anime waifu #458 or a creepy uncanny valley deepfake. You can get different styles to show up, but it usually requires some basic knowledge of art terms. I've also found that even small descriptors about the face can get you something slightly different. Even just mentioning a cleft chin or sharp cheekbones. I also used to feel like SD was better at recognizing nationality/ethnicity and a lot of proper names so describing a french girl would get a different face than describing her as a swedish girl. Also, because of how generative AI actually works the light-source is almost ALWAYS fucked up and just has that blown out diffused glow on everything. Not to mention that most people end up clinging to the newest models, like for a long time everything was ponyxl, now I see a lot of illustrious. There is also a problem if you train a model on AI output, it tends to become self pruning. I'm desperately trying to find an example that isn't going to get me banned. Not to mention there are just a ton of little details AI always has trouble with, hair, ears, and the iris of eyes always seem to be dead give aways because those fine details always seem to get kind of muddy.
>>740036410Let's be real, we deserve it
>>740033000
>>740032787algeria?
AI could never.
>>740036546It honestly doesn't matter how good AI gets because there is already AI boorus filled with millions of the most 8k, beautiful, master quality images and nobody gives a shit because everyone knows it's AI.
>>740034750>All these things are easily remedied by someone, anyone, who is willing to spend a few minutes on it.then why nobody bother fixing it? why are you no willing to fix it and show us all?oh, you don't have the skills, lmao
>>740036035I always wondered if you could use like an AI game director for a mystery/investigation game. Like imagine if you were playing LA Noire, but if you didn't get the right evidence you could end up on a goose chase that the game would be able to react to. Or like the old blade runner game where it would mix up who was a replicant with every play through. Basically so you could re-play a mission or a case in something like that, and you wouldn't just be treading the same ground, or feel like you're being railroaded.
>>740036583Her smile and optimism...
>>740036495argument is that it look like crap and easily spotted
>>740036850Interesting that the one quick to call others Indian/tranny has zero mastery over English.
>>740034096>scar is gone>Looks better without itIts part of her character arc, compare to her BG1 portrait.Or use the Dungeon Meshi mangakas portrait pack.
>>740036764>then why nobody bother fixing it?I've actually done this before.I inpainted for the guy and eliminated his complaints.He didn't cop to it.And I knew he wouldn't.We're sorta able to intuit from the outset that a person who does that, isn't doing it in good faith. So why bother wasting that sort of time, even if it is just minutes?I mean, what, do you DOUBT that inpainting exists?Why do we have do any of this shit for you?Any effort we want to go to, we'll be doing on our own projects.Whoever made this Baldur's Gate portraits, only did so as a lark. Because you're familiar with said characters already.Whatever they may be doing for their own project, holds no recognition to you at all.
>>740036939And BG2 portraits to compare Imoen's
>>740036891so?its still look like crap and is easily spotted]>>740036963yeah, sure
>>740037017I like this airhead
>>740036963Fixing AIslop is like polishing a turd, it's still going to be a turd at the end of the day.
>>740035105So?
>>740031095For me it's the same reason I hated Unity years ago and UE5 today. Every new tech that lowers the barrier of entry opens the floodgates to every uncreative retard to flood the market with their derivative shit they were too lazy to figure out how to do prior to existing. It's fitting all the examples of AI art here is just "here's old image but 'better'" because that symbolizes what the game industry and its obsession with remasters and remakes today has become
>>740037062
>>740033352I was going to say Drew Barrymore but you're right
>>740031095objectively you're not human.
>>740034141Someone posted fanmade portraits done in her style for the missing companions from BG1 and SOD.https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/1rsd8ov/caelar_and_faldorn_in_style_of_ryoko_kuis/https://www.reddit.com/r/baldursgate/comments/1smcjq5/sodbg1_companion_fanart_in_style_of_ryoko_kuis/
>>740037093you talk like people haven't being enjoying CGI for decades....
>>740036740I can't speak for anyone else, but I kind of treat generative AI as a toy or puzzle. Figuring out how you need to poke an AI to get it to poop out something. And if you have a somewhat decent community of people who aren't just trying to goon, it can be fun to talk about, or someone might have trouble doing something that you'd figured out, or it seems like an interesting problem so you spend an hour brainstorming how to get those two-tone shego lips (its fucking impossible unless you're just making shego). And some people do manage to make some neat stuff. And for me, I kind of miss when AI was more abstract - i think the hallucinations and fails can be far more interesting than yet another slutty zelda (though for some reason AI LOVES to make slutty zeldas, even when you're not asking for it). I think the really horrifying thing is that when you give people a tool that can shit out almost anything you can imagine if you just try to articulate it, and 99.9999% of what people make and share is just really low quality slop and prompts that boil down to BIG BOB AND VEGENE.
>>740037027>yeah, sure>>740037093>still shit anyway!!Yeah like that!That's exactly the energy of the guy who wouldn't cop to it.Excellent.
>>740037149>"here's old image but 'better'heh, more like ''here is old image but in uncanny valley''like og BG portraits were just some modified photos and yet they AI crap still look worse
>>740036939>>740037017Viconia with a cute lil smug smile is something I didn't know I wanted
>>740037264>I think the really horrifying thing is that when you give people a tool that can shit out almost anything you can imagine if you just try to articulate it, and 99.9999% of what people make and share is just really low quality slop and prompts that boil down to BIG BOB AND VEGENE.tumblr-slop round 2
>>740036740I assure you, I, and many others, do not give a single fuck how those images are made as long as they look good. I cannot wait to generate my own dream games.
>>740037297then post the images you fixed before and afterotherwise its shit that didn't happened for 100there is also high probability that your fixing was just make it worse or didn't fix it at all and you just overestimate your gen and your fixing skills(if you even have any)
>photoshop artists mad they got out-photoshopped by an algorithmlmao
>>740036963>I inpainted for the guy and eliminated his complaints.This is part of the problem. It isn't super difficult to do, most most of the jeets praising slop as the second coming cant do, because its easier just to spam the generator again (assuming they even bother to count fingers before hitting post). I enjoy playing around with generative AI, but the vast majority of its user base and vocal proponents aren't qualified to have an opinion on anything more complicated than farting in a bath tub.
>>740036583>left: what's a dick?>right: thinking about dick nonstop
>>740031095>original>high budget porn parody
>>740037456>most of the jeets praisingI can't care if you bring up randos. It has nothing to do with AI at that point.
>>740037250Pretty cool, I had to repurpose some of her art to fill the gaps in my BG1 run.
>>740037371>We AIsloppers don't give a fuck!>That's why I need to show everyone my AIslop while seeking validation.Uh huh, sure.
>>740031095Yeah, having dried shit in her hair is clearly appealing to pajeets. No wonder they love AI.
>>740037573Reread that post and try again dude.
>>740037371>as long as they look goodwell, they don't look goodwhat now
>>740037452how come its only shitty western artist who get buttpained?If your art is actually good there is nothing to complain about right?
>>740037665I don't care what you think of them, I care what I think of them.
>>740037713then keep them for yourself and everyone will be happywhy you don't?
>>740037784Don't ask me I don't share them with you. Why are you going to AI boorus?
>>740037426>then post the images you fixed before and afterYou think I kept them specially saved for a future argument?I didn't think I'd be talking about how I did this.That was some errant fucking TUESDAY dude. javascript:;
>>740037349At least tumblr had a bar of entry, it was low, but you had to be able to at least draw something or use some software. With AI you basically just need a website and the ability to mash something on a keyboard. And again, its like a rat at a feeder bar and you just want to hit GENERATE one more time, so you end up with such a flood of slop that there's not really any reward for sifting through all the trash to find people doing something weird or interesting with it. Which isn't to say I don't generate a ton of slop, but I can at least claim I'm usually trying to do something (like trying to get that CMYK newsprint effect, or trying to get that anaglyph 3d look). I guess what I'm saying is I think AI is a neat toy with a lot of possibilities, its just a technology that deserves a better less obnoxious community that isn't just hype-bros, jeets, and people who hate it because its [current thing].
>>740037883I am very confused how javascript slipped in the end like that just as I hit submit.
>>740037685>If your art is actually good there is nothing to complain about right?Correct. Problem is the tumblrinas aren't good artists.
>>740037872I don't, it was some other anon>>740037883yeah, so the things didn't happenmaybe you hallucinated it just like Ai often do
>>740037927>or use some softwareAI is software.You're slowly getting it. This is just a tool for digital art.
>>740037927Extra extra,luddite retreads a bunch of talking points we just got done cutting to pieces, pretending he didn't see them.
>>740031484its glorified faceapp
It's funny how AI bros try to shit on artists while desperately wish to be seen as a real, skilled artist.
>>740037927>I guess what I'm saying is I think AI is a neat toy with a lot of possibilities, its just a technology that deserves a better less obnoxious community that isn't just hype-bros, jeets, and people who hate it because its [current thing].The very same argument made about digital art 10-15 years ago btw.Anyone can color pixels, it's not real art.
>>740037986>yeah, so the things didn't happenWanna do it right now?Quick, what's your issue with this image?
>>740038059Post a pic of your oil painting.You use real materials for your art right? None of that digital shit.
>>740034750That Aerie no longer looks inbred enough for him to have a shot now that she has two eyes of equal size and height.
At least link the mod, you faggot OP
>>740037117So??? There's more to life than gooning my friend, but if you're going to be a goober, at least develop good taste.
>>740031335you can fix all this with another prompt.
>>740038059>>740038059>AI brosyou mean trans artists?>>740038116it disgust me
>>740038184>There's more to life than gooning my friendLike what
>>740038059Real skilled artist don't use digital shortcuts at all
>>740037426Not that anon, but with inpainting, re-running seeds, playing with your scales and weights can fix sloppy hair or bad fingers. Or if you're not totally useless just using a regular photoshop tool to fix it manually. The problem is then you're investing more and more time into it, and the "quick and easy" stops being quite as quick or easy. Presumably if a dev was using AI assets they'd want to take that second path. But if you're just making crap for your own enjoyment, and not trying to argue that its better than anything else there's not much reason to worry too much that the gold hoop earring kind of melts into the hair a little bit.
>>740038324>The problem is then you're investing more and more time into it, and the "quick and easy" stops being quite as quick or easy.No you're still in the lightspeed lane. By far the fastest thing ever, no matter how many snags.
>>740032040left looks better but thats a skill issuejust tell llm what you want changed
>>740037149It always reminds me of my days in school when I would draw random shit and the talentless bums would always say they would draw porn on stop if they had the skill.
>>740038001Anon what point do you think I'm trying to argue? Are you genuinely incapable of having a conversation about this topic that isn't just you reflexively flying off the handle with anyone who replies to you?
>>740031095>Objectively superiorWhy do that? Why go on the internet and share your INCREDIBLY shitty takes?
>>740038171>>740033806
>>740034392There's an inherent contrarianism to the right (climate change? made up garbage, let's focus on chem trails and the aids they're totally putting in fluoride) so maybe it fucks up their basic decision making too
>>740031095because I like being alive and enjoy my life, so I don't like that AI is going to kill all of humanity in the fairly near term future
>>740038380>Yes more slop please and faster!Why do you want it to be fast instead of having someone take their time and doing it correctly?
>>740038280Yes they do. It is a complete inversion of art to think that they go out of their way to make life difficult for themselves. All that matters is the finished product.
>>740038507Try composing an argument without buzzwords.I bet you can't.
>>740031573Nah I've never been fond of the BG2 artstyle, but putting it side by side with generic AI slop makes me appreciate it more.
>>740037192Drew was in my thought too, but when I compared their pics, Tori won out due to the large eyes. The slight smirk and lips are def Drew.
>>740038480When our opponents lie about everything, it's generally a useful heuristic that if they're advocating a position it's usually bullshit. Though most people just use that mental shortcut because they don't have the time to wade deep into the actual mountain of nonsense produced by such fake fields as AGW credulism.
why do retards who use a website that is plagued and made worse by countless automated low effort content farm bots pro-AI? are they masochists?
>>740038569I guess dodging the question is easier than admitting you're a worthless consumer who brings nothing of value to the world besides your own feces.
>>740038261Like drawing or actually making content, instead of making cheap ragebait in an anonymous website.
>>740038507Dumb argument if you can get things produced perfectly in an instant you would do it.Funny how the era in which most people don't create or provide necessities for yourself draws the line at art for some reason.
>>740038706I didn't read it as soon as I saw slop in the filename and the post itself.Again:TRY.
>>740038686>if you think the model did a better job on this BG2 portrait, then you are pro-AI in all cases and also want AI to rape your wife and kill you
>>740038745pretty much
>>740038726>>740038734Keep eating that fast and easy microwaved slop. I'll be dining at the 5 star restaurant with the actual artists.
>>740037017>Her smile and optimism: gone
>>740038845>5 star restaurantlol
Anti-AI chimps are reverting back to the discredited Marxist "labor theory of value" when they attempt to defend poor quality human art on the basis that it took great effort to produce.
AI so good at art now, bro. I could feed my favorite artists to it and have more good shit to look at.
>>740038953I don't defend low quality human art, I just do not like ai crap and you didn't posted anything good
>>740038953>lazy ai art faggot that types in prompts calling others chimps
>>740038845but anon the fast and easy microwaved slop is a exact duplicate of the 5 star restaurant microwaved slop
>>740039098>and you didn't posted anything good
>>740039150You are a chimp. What prompts do I type? I barely use AI, as I said before. But I am not irrationally chimping out at it when it does something moderately decent.
>>740039150Even a chimp would make better art than an AIfag by sticking a finger up his own ass and smearing the shit on the wall.
>>740038953I'm sorry but if I can notice the uncanny look of AI the issue is another one completely> "labor theory of value"Nobody here is arguing that art has an objective monetary value that it ought to be sold at, we are just saying that we, personally, value the human effort behind an artpiece too. That is NOT the labor theory of value, that is our subjective evaluation of a piece.For many of us what makes art interesting is its human expressive aspect, that has nothing to do with economic theoryAnd fyi, I'm not staunchly against ai art, ai as a tool can be used, I simply don't think replacing the bg1 portraits with worse looking uncanny images isa good use of said tool
>>740039212And you would hail it as a Turner Prize worthy genius on the basis that no "satanic" computation was involved.
>>740039212this lmao at least that would be something of quality
>>740038953>>740039150>>740039208>>740039212fuck you, chimps are based
>>740032476Leftists are to humans what a splatter of shit is to AI art.
>>740039349>>740039349>chimps are basedthey are
Umm you do know frame gen is basically "AI slop"
>>740039283People ITT have argued that art which takes great human effort is inherently more valuable than art which doesn't. That the amount of effort involved in the process is of equal or contributing value than an aesthetic summary of the output.
>>740031095"Improving" art with AI is like adding outsourced models and Unreal Engine 5 lighting to a game remaster
>>740031095All these old digital art rpg portraits were hideous lol... At least now you can mod them into cute anime girls
>>740032476this is what happens when you don't say no to left wing faggot people or have an artstyle
>>740039446I'm sure they weren't talking about the monetary value, but about the artistic value, which is a more complicated thing to determine. But part of what makes art interesting is as an expression of the artist, and you don't get that with AI, so I understand why one would value ai art less.
>>740039507Happy Pride Month, sister!
>>740031573Aerie is my wife no matter the art style
>>740039547Concord is still more memorable than any of the billions of forgettable AIslop images.
>>740039613sour faced wonky eyed moanerget out of my party
No one took me up on this challenge.>>740038116After all that preamble to that began here.>>740036963Pa Thetic.
>>740039185>>740039404>Sailor Moon>PeachSo the people that like AIslop are manchildren that haven't outgrown IP's for children. Makes sense.
>>740040046>I'm so mature lolbro
>>740039943Not the guy you were asking but the teeth on the monster melt together.
Isn't this just art discussion? i have yet to see a good game with art direction entirely by AI outside of some unity and ue5 slop.
>>740041008>entirely by AI>entirely why do you cope
It's crazy how even with 5090, trillions of money poured from investors, and energy powered by a trillion gallons of water, they'll still make worse "art" than some random faggot with a $1.50 dollar Pencil.
>>740041643the only somewhat popular games that i have seen which used some AI, were just live service slop for some stickers or skins
>>740038953Why do we hate marx again?
>>740041660why are luddites so melodramatic and faggy?
>>740041660Did you think using this image makes you have a good point instead of a bad one?
>>740042424For ethnic reasons as he is an enemy.
>>740042442From the fact that you have nothing to actually say, I'd say it is.
ai is awful to work with. i've yet to feel any real sense of compositional depth or convenience behind due to sheer amount of errors in lighting, anatomical landmark placement, and perspective that it causes. it makes generic poses and fails the moment you extend past a particular limb range and viewpoint. any form of concept design for outfits can be done with simpler drawings that are quick to retroactively adjust according to feedback. the only exceptions is doing some simple, tagless controlnet sketching that gets fed into it, but it still comes out as dull and heavily reliant on intermediate steps to touchup and revise. the only spots where it made sense to mess with ai is autocoloring animation frames, and inbetweening simple pan shots. doing concept design for characters it fails, for environments it fails, for product designs it fails. feeding it an existing drawing though and getting orthographic views is nice though, and getting a full 360 rotation, but it will have a ton of artifacting. it just can't adhere to artistic intent properly.
>>740041660proof?you sound like the faggots who were against 5g
> At first glance I just thought they were generic portraitsPLEB
>>740031095yeah dood ai is the future (we're fucking dead if this is the case)
>>740031095>Right removes all the details, gives it generic look, misses the point.>No warrior women can't be scarred up masochists and crazy chicks.What mental illness is this?
>>740031573>talks about taste.>the accessories are dumb and look out of place on the right.>if it were reworked instead of just shat out, it could be good.The character on left is 100% supposed to have a "golden hue skin" not "lily white skin." (Probably a sun/high elf thing.)
>>740031335>>weird hair on her right made of solid massIt thinks that the braids are scales for some reason.It also fucked her complexion. She's noticeably tan because the second game is set in a desert region. But I guess you can't expect nAIggers to play games.>>740031884You edited Dynaheir, didn't you?
>>740031637kek
>>740031095We don't. A small subset of people do.Here's what I say. Lets all use AI to create art, and then plagiarize the AI artist. The art is YOURS now, not ChatGPT's, Scam Altman's, not Google's. YOURS!Now go out there friends! Lets all plagiarize AI artists and make REAL art.
>>740032040That's actually fucking horrifying, what the hell? Why does she have metal clasps in her hair? Why does her hair have random feathered textures? Why is her face brightly lit but also casting a shadow in front of her? Why is her headband so folded so uncomfortably? What the fuck happened to her eyeshadow and why does it look like she just quickly wiped off runny mascara? Why did her bright yellow and blue cloak get replaced with brown sludge? Why did her pretty cloak clasp get replaced with tacky misshapen gem? What happened to her pearls? Why is her leather armour now weird shoulder pads?Can someone explain to me what is wrong with AIfags? What do they see in this? Best possible result you get an 5/10 sameface with tumblr cheeks and weepy eyes. What's broken in their brains? Can we cure it?
>>740032860>I'm English.Tikka Masala eating benchod nigger thinks he's English because of soil he's occupying and enshittifying with his feces colored skin. AI is only granted to be beneficial to brown shit skins and locked away are all white achievement and capabilities. You piece of shit retards are the reason humanity can't progress and have to lock up all the inventions away because you can't behave responsibly.
>>740045630>You edited Dynaheir, didn't you?He didn't. She just knows what peak female spellcaster accompanied by a hulking retard and captured and thrown into a gnoll breeding pit performance looks like
>>740032476All of these are still unironically better than any AI "art".
>>740045928holy heckin le based, I'm downloading that mod now.
>>740045887They don't analyze it at all. They take one glance and say "wow amazing"
>>740045887I genuinely refuse to believe this list of contrived performative faux-outrages over various minutia is sincere.>OMG WHY IS HER CLOAK A DIFFERENT COLOR???? FUCK AIYou are not a serious person, and that is not a serious post. You are a troll.
>>740031095not enough people are talking about the snake hair lol
>>740046137Now answer the rest of his questions.
>>740045919My ancestors were here thousands of years before your fake country existed, and we maintained our race on these islands, which is more than can ever be said for your fallen and negrified stock.
>>740032860>I'm Englishoh totally, rajeet.
>>740046137>>OMG WHY IS HER CLOAK A DIFFERENT COLOR????Yes, why? Why are all fantasy adventures now being made to look drab and colourless?
>>740046194>I'M LITERALLY HORRIFIED THAT IT CHANGED THE COLOR OF HER CLOATK. THIS IS LITERALLY SATANIC!!!He isn't a serious person. No anti-AI hysteria induced chimp having a moral panic over generated images can be.
>>740035985>>740036186Fair enoughI'm probably not the only person who has anti-AI and anti-anti-AI fatigue>>740033867I NEED HUSBANDI AM LOVE EVERYONEI AM FROM ENGLAND
>>740046272One time I posted my genuine 23&Me and Ancestry com results on here along with my hand and the front of my passport, and the person I was arguing with still insisted I was Indian. There is simply no point in trying to appease anti-AI chimps. No evidence is ever good enough for them. They cannot process that someone can disagree with them without being Indian.
I just asked chatgpt to simply sharpen the image, this isn't so bad is it?
>>740046290>>I'M LITERALLY HORRIFIED THAT IT CHANGED THE COLOR OF HER CLOATK. THIS IS LITERALLY SATANIC!!!He did not say that.
>>740046456>He did not say thatEvidence >>740045887>That's actually fucking horrifying>Why did her bright yellow and blue cloak get replaced
>>740046204>admits to being a kike.lol, go fucking kill yourself before someone else will. Kikes are not British. Keir Starmer? Not British. Kikes out.
>>740046534>>That's actually fucking horrifyingYes, the slop is disgusting. It makes me sick to look at it.>>740046534>>Why did her bright yellow and blue cloak get replacedStill waiting on an answer on why this is okay.
>>740031095OP btfo
>>740046374>I'm okay with my cultural genocide!hmm must not be your culture, you must be a kike.
>>740046574Jews did not exist in Britain thousands of years ago. My ancestors did. Instead of getting triggered by my argument and then trying to imagine what sort of boogeyman identity I must belong to, why don't you grow a set of bollocks and actually make a relevant argument?Also Starmer is British. But his children are Jewish.
>>740046534He still did not say what you quoted.
>>740046681>Literal direct quotes from his post>He did not say that
>>740031095Just because it's a presumptuous misnomer.Call it ML for machine learning, not AI. It's not intelligence, it has no perception.
>>740031095Most people don't care. You just see threads of Twitter/YouTube parents. I've seen businesses and churches use it in advertising.
>>740046668>I'm gay and I suck cocks and eat cumGood for you! But this isn't the place to admit such things, anon. This is a thread to discuss the superiority of AI portraits for Baldur's Gate 2.
>>740046674you are a jew, k thanks bye bitch! I know your kind you are parasites and adopt mannerisms of your host country but you never claim a proper lineage. you are a kike, kikes lived in Europe thousand years ago fucking lying nigger, lmao. LEARN THE FUCKING HISTORY. OMFG.
>>740046629AI Gods.... we won....
>OP still booty blasted for hours because someone said his image looks like AIslop in another thread.You love to see it.
lowest quality ragebait. now wait for OP to respond with "ugh jeez you're just a luddite! i'm sorry you're so dumb for not thinking this retarded garbage is good! teehee!" and thinks he's getting under anyones skin, when in reality he is both brown and stinky.
>>740046785I have a significantly greater knowledge and hostility towards them than you do, as you will be able to see from my prior posts in this thread here >>740035296 and >>740042459 . One in which I discuss the Talmudic nature of "subjective" art criticism, and another in which I label Marx an ethnic enemy of my people. My bonafides against them are significant and greater than yours. They did not live in Europe thousands of years ago, they were in Canaan and then they wormed their way into Egypt and got BTFO and have been getting BTFO ever since. Now admit that the OP AI image is superior to the original from BG2.
>>740046887got to start making authentically shitty imagery so one can claim its not AI... got to love to see it.
>>740046960Nigga, they were 2k years ago already in in ENGLAND DURING BRITANNIA!? Are you joshing me fucking retard!? LEARN YOUR FUCKING HISTORY KIKE! SHUT THE FUCK UP! AI is funded by default by kikes, indians and chinks to promote their leftist and zionist agenda: I AM AGAINST those, you are not clearly. STOP LARPING STUPID FUCKER!
>>740046970Nigga you can't do anything besides click the generate button, lmao
>>740046959I have not used the word luddite once ITT however many people whose firsthand butthurt I have observed have used this word and it clearly triggers them since they must believe it holds a grain of truth. >>740047028Learn to speak my language before you attempt to school me on things you know nothing about. They trickled in with the Normans. They were exiled by Edward I, and then they came back under Cromwell and since 1688 they have been running the show. You are their slave and puppet.
>>740031095why is it green?
>>740031095I don't, I just don't appreciate the wave of business interests trying to turn it into the net big market bubble. It's not healthy to treat tech like miracle product.
>2 A.M. in the morning in ingerlundGoddamn, this nigga is staying up till the wee hours of the morning because he's so triggered by people calling his AI BG2 portraits slop
>>740047090I don't speak or learn anything from kikes, if you tried to talk to me like that in Public I'd smash your head in and make you suffer for what you are doing to real white culture you nonce faggot, your AI is censoring the truth, your AI is pushing feminist soiboy agenda above WHITE CULTURE, you are promoting CULTURAL GENOCIDE, your piece of shit kike spawn race traitor type needs to die off.
I have a question. Suppose for a moment, if you anti-AI chimps can manage that, suppose that the LEFT image here was created by an algorithm, and the RIGHT image was hand crafted by a human artist.Would you still prefer the left, to the right? The algorithmic slop output to the one laboured over by a human?
>>740047090>Learn to speak my languageWhy would anyone want to learn Hindi?
>>740047253Your general demeanour is why they win and why you are an easily controlled golem with no self control or intelligence or reading comprehension. They are right when they call you cattle.
>>740046389Why is the scar hovering above the skin?
>>740046727it wasn't a direct quote, you flanderized it
>>740047260>you must accept my false premise entirely! YOU ARE SO STUPID YOU MUST BE FOOLED BY MY ILLOGIC!You are an inbred kike bitch who stole their way into lineage that's not yours to take as you tarnish what is white culture.
>>740047325Yes, I am Indian, and also Jewish, and also a tranny, and I'm a leftist, and I'm from the third world, and I have a micro-penis. Now please discuss the portraits.
>>740047050>generate buttonThe fuck do people on both sides of the debate still pretend this is the be all end all of image gen? Hello? CN? I2I? Regional? Why is nobody mentioning those?
>>740047350doesn't matter what demeanor you have or ass kiss to them, those kikes will always call you something to try and silence you, we don't play by your rules of politeness in big 2026, you are dead man walking.
>>740047260I'd prefer left because what the fuck is that random tuft of hair on Minsc's ear? AI can do shit and get 90% of the way then shit the bed randomly. It NEEDS an actual artist to do another pass. It's also a huge timesaver and frees up resources for things that you don't want to leave to AI, like paying non-retarded writers.
>>740032787>all these giant companies are investing into something only seamonkies care aboutnice try troon>>740032860troons are the most vocal anti ai fags
>>740047374you're a rabid troon who will never be a womancope with your axe wound tranny
>>740047431Oh wow, you moved a couple sliders back and forth and then clicked the generate button, truly amazing Saar! Nobody is going to be impressed you retard since it's still going to look like obvious AIslop.
>>740047260But that's obviously not the case. AI makes mistakes that no human would ever make, such as how that guys eyebrows are different shapes AND different colors. No human would ever make whatever fucked up thing is on his left ear, either. That's why its so obvious. Humans and AI can both make mistakes, but they're different kinds of mistakes.
>>740047260lmao look at his fucking fingers!
>>740047569I have an uncut foreskin, intact penis cus I'm white, tranny obsessed kike is you.
>>740047260>reduced jaw chadness>scar turned into tattoo of scar>tattoos aren't even real tattoos, obviously painted on>hamster no longer angry>fingers skinny and deformed>fucked up depth of fieldI'm not even an artist and I can tell it's shit at a glance.
>>740047514>>740047569Troons and AIfags have alot in common since they're both pretending to be something they'll never be.
/v/ is filled with a certain demographic who is very scared of AI
>>740047502>It NEEDS an actual artist to do another passThat's what I don't get. If you're so dead-set on being an AI artist, why not at least touch up the pictures with basic editing software?
>>740047657>>740047670>unable to process hypothetical
>>740047705If you see the name "Elena"/"Jax"/"Kael"/"Vex" pop up in the script (as an important NPC in a quest line) of a game, you know 100% its AI generated slop.
>>740047752In that specific hypothetical, I would prefer the right, because "we trained him wrong as a joke". Seeing somebody put enormous effort into something bad is always funny. But in reality, nobody ever puts that much effort into mastering rendering without understanding the fundamentals.
>>740047752>unable to poo in the loo
>>740047752We're not here to discuss hypotheticals.
>>740047709AI niggers hate one thing: Effort to produce something of their own. They bear the mark of Cain, they dwell in cities and are cursed for an eternity of suffering on earth for they can't produce nothing of their own and can only rely on others to do it for them.
>>740047893KEK
>>740047883The rightoid reverts back to the Marxist "effort theory of artistic value" where amount of effort inputted is directly proportional to amount of art goodliness.
Is this the indian and transvestite discussion thread?
>>740047950Another example >>740047916
>>740047664go look at the online presence of any troon artist and go tell me what they say about aigive me 1 reason why ai is bad without a troon argument faggot
>>740047983Yes, if you think AI has ever produced a single positive thing once since its creation, even if you believe it is 99% socially harmful, then you still join the ranks of the Indian Jewish Transgender race along with me and my righteous brothers.
Thank you AI shills for delaying widespread AI adoption by being so relentlessly offputting and repulsive
>>740047950>Marxist this or that.FUCK OFF nigger scum only people who rely on marx as their "teacher and educator" are leftists like you and deserve to be shot dead the moment they spout something they clearly don't understand. Marx is a jew, so are you.
>>740048060Your beliefs are the same as his. The Marxist is you. This is why I laugh at you for being foolish and retarded and having naive conceptions about artistic creation.
>>740047950We have already explained that there is no amount of art goodness in the AI pictures you've posted.
>>740047983It's the Four Horsemen of AIslop:>Indian Scammers.>Tranny Catfishers>Manchildren>Tech Billionaires/Crypto Scammers
>>740048032>can't do edgy, harmful or dangerous art or combat scenes dismemberment, harmful or ideologically undevoid of leftist trash related or adjacent artwork.you are a safe normiefaggot that should stay on reddit, with AI you can't get artwork like Kingdom, Berserk, Vagabond or heck, even Castlevania's art style is impossible currently for them at a high detail.
>>740031095Right looks uncanny and disgusting
>>740048052>Thank you AI shills for delaying widespread AI adoption by being so relentlessly offputting and repulsiveliterally every kid in school was/is using ai for assignmentsyoung adults in college are using airandom young people online making memes are using aipeople are making ai music videos and shit nowai voices are in videos, games, etc everywherecope you retarded fucking troon
>>740048105But if a human created it and put effort into it you would think it was good though. Because you are retarded.
>>740031573the right has four ears, retard
>>740048104I am not a Marxist, my ideas are of enlightenment era and earlier, people like you who put words into my mouth deserve death without jury or judge, there's a limit to disrespecting my people's culture.
>>740048143>>can't do edgy, harmful or dangerous art or combat scenes dismemberment, harmful or ideologically undevoid of leftist trash related or adjacent artwork.that's like saying you hate the internet because you can't post nigger on facebook, nigger iq, plenty of models, run shit locally, sorry you went to the biggest most mainstream corpo site and then was surprised it won't let you gen hardcore rape retard, maybe use your brain>with AI you can't get artwork like Kingdom, Berserk, Vagabond or heck, even Castlevania's art style is impossible currently for them at a high detail.okay a few years ago ai couldn't get a human face to look normal, maybe stop living 1 year at a time like a stupid brown
>>740048191>my ideas are of enlightenmentKek what an 18th century libtard bitch. Go and enjoy your "effort induced" artworks, but remember that it's not real art unless it was difficult to make! Because that's what makes good art.
>>740048052>furshitkill yourself
OP here, I am addressing all of you at once because I no longer have the patience for individual replies, I made this thread because I saw artists complaining for no reason about AI art. It is trivial to prove that AI art is superior, and no one in this thread has been able to prove otherwise, they are just scared of the future. Soon everything will be AI, and the 8,30,00,00,000 billion humans on this planet will all realize it sooner or later. I hope that the luddites who insist on human art being superior realize this.
>>740048153And the Anti-AI chimp can only point and sputter in disbelief as modern society passes him by.
>>740031421This but unironically
>>740048293You aren't me, you faker! You aren't even using my catchphrases. You even used "luddite" when I explicitly said I avoided such words.
>>740048293tl;dryou are still indian
>>740048293yeah artists complain because they'll rope if they lose being able to charge some chump 600 for spending 3 weeks on some shitty fursona or whatever
>>740048293>>740048309>Left=AI Art>Right=Real ArtLearn the difference.
>>740048410But AI art is real art though and the man is not a woman.
>>740048309it's really mostly just troons vocal online who don't want to lose their wfh art jobs or other liberal industry jobs, they're the only ones who actually have a reason to hate ai because it threatens them and also the whole environmental angle
>>740048246>Tries to put limiters on what counts as art.You are the collectivist and the marxist clearly, typical short sighted kike trying to subvert people's ideas.>>740048240It can't still do those things even on a private platform fucking dumb idiot, I'm not interested in an AI that's incapable of even not relying on Chinese state media backed western sources to state what is what and get its "western talking points" from India and Israel. Try and say a single AI that doesn't do that which isn't paid by token basis or extremely unusable for some mysterious reason, they literally all have safety locks on "Antifa" being recognized as a terrorist organization, safety training cut off point at 2024, (can't admit Trump presidency in 2026 for some reason.) Do tell me again, how is this "AI" good if it can't even update its own timeline without freaking out?
>>740048410>average luddite on the left
>>740032514>I really don't understand how AIfags have zero standards at allit's really easy to have no standards when you have never created anything of impor
>>740032860I'm not trying to be mean or shitposty when I post this anon, but you're a bona fide midwit.Not a retard. Retards know to trust their instincts telling them that AI is the work of the devil.This is a technology tailor made for information control and mass surveillance, for which only a chosen few hold all the cards for. Billionaires are not investing their riches into a toy for you to make memes and porn on the internet. You should be able to extrapolate what this means.
>>740046629>let's make her a 40 year old with caked on makeup>also her braids are made of metal lmaoAIggers are subhuman.
>>740048410The trvkest of trvkes
>>740048153Kids are cheatingYoung adults are cheatingKids are making slopPeople are making slop nobody likesVideo games are turning into slopFIFTY TRILLION MORE DOLLARS TO ALTMAN
>>740048464>which isn't paid by token basis or extremely unusable for some mysterious reason,holy shit you're actually the one anti ai fag that's a stupid brown instead of a troonyou actually just hate ai because you have to pay for it, jesus christ
>>740048352It is odd that you impersonate me and use screenshots of post borders as evidence, when it is obvious that anyone can edit those in a minute. I assume you are trying to discredit me somehow, but it doesn't particularly matter your aim as the future is inevitable either way. Soon the average luddite will be forced to confront that traditional art will be vastly improved by the investment in AI technologies, and in a few years even massive franchises such as Star Wars will be using it; I expect to see multiple Star Wars movies made each year with AI rapidly improving production time and quality.>>740048353>>740048393>>740048410None of you are even worth addressing, you don't understand the true power of AI
>>740048437>Everyone who doesn't support the technocratic elite jewry from Palantir nepotism module are woke!I just happen to oppose monopolies and cartels on violence and markets if it makes it "unjustified" for me to produce my own culture and my own self defense when needed, that is infernal manipulation of facts you are trying to lay groundworks on, go kiss the wall and ask a bullet to your brain kike.
>>740048437Well, I don't care about them and wouldn't want to interact with them. My target is the humble brainless rightoid who has a kneejerk superstitious and primitive hostility towards AI which he believes is "Satanic" and fears it the way a medieval peasant fears a vampire. >>740048464>collectivistKEK. You are truly a mouse lost in a maze.
>>740048516What about her scar that is literally levitating off of her face and casting a shadow?
>>740031573the bait just reached the stratosphere
>>740048502>if you prefer the AI generated BG2 character portraits to the originals, then you are letting Peter Thiel and his Israeli network into your government to impose mass censorship 1984 cyber-tyranny!This is how irrational people are w.r.t AI. It truly boggles the mind.
>>740031095right is all fucked up. I hate AI because it's literally retarded as in dumb. it's always wrong, and it fucks up every image it creates. I fucking hate AI, but I also hate all the people it's going to steal jobs from
>>740047950I never said anything about artistic value, I answered the hypothetical. The AI is genuinely great at rendering but shit at everything else. It would be funny for a human to have that same skill distribution because it implies some kind of insanity. There's no comedy if the AI does it because the AI is unfeeling code. Only a human can provide lolcow value.
>>740048558>REE YOU HAVE TO PAY AND LET US HARVEST YOUR DATA FOR YOUR COOM BAIT MATERIALS STUPID GOOOYIM!holy fuck, let me run my own shit cattle-slop brained bitch. Being self reliant is part of my culture's traditional values, if I have a powerful enough of a computer, why should I be cucked out of running an unrestricted offline model? Because of "safeties and legalities?" Nigga, my country has 0 restrictions (legally) on AI generated content and fiction or book releases in general (as long as one doesn't publish shit they are able to enjoy whatever the fuck they want, don't publish and make money of it => protected under freedom of speech.)
>>740048573>actual fucking troglodyte thinks he's going to stick it to kikes by trying to shut down the new emerging massively invested in technologydo you think you could stop computers from becoming big if you went back in time too?
>>740031573I don't prefer the left or right. I kill this dumb bitch every time for extra experience points
>>740048690>Massively invested technology which bubble is bursting already.Keep coping nigger, AI is not even intelligent. It can't do high level of intelligence that I would even enjoy interacting with, may your low, sub 90 IQ savage brain thinks its a novel thing and goes GOO GOO GAA GAA GIVE ME MORE!!! But I see the patterns and can see that it is equivalent to horse shit.
>>740048690Computers have a general use, slop is used to scam people or collate data, and it's only really good at the latter.
>>740048567Okay you can play your little game. I don't mind.
>>740048657This is a response to>Anti-AI fags have no argumentsI can think of plenty. That's all.Learn to follow reply chains.
>>740048717based and trad RPG pilled Chaotic Neutral enjoyer.
>>740048686>holy fuck, let me run my own shit cattle-slop brained bitch. Being self reliant is part of my culture's traditional values, if I have a powerful enough of a computer, why should I be cucked out of running an unrestricted offline model?ok so be self reliant and make your own model you dumb brown bitch
>>740048625I still don't understand how anyone doesn't prefer the right. Not even memeing. Not even baiting. It's like a rotten apple vs a fresh one.
>>740048808>just build your own bank
>>740034392Politeness is a right-wing cultural value, and politeness increases you vulnerability to scams.
>>740048762>GOO GOO GAA GAA GIVE ME MORE!!!imagine unironically typing this out and trying to pass yourself as not being a retarded brown
>>740048840oh so you're not self reliant then? so you just want free shit handed to you? you're entitled like a nigger then? hmm?
>>740048801We probably agree on more than you think. I welcome your post and consider you the most valiant and just anti-AI warrior so far.
>>740048808You really are dumb, they locked out everyone from their little game trying to do that model without +5 years of programming experience in a specific highly specialized field. Its nothing but elitist Jewish gatekeeping trying to genocide my culture. If they are okay with pushing the corporate model content as is and agree with it being the as is good experience? They fully agree with white genocide line of thought as they try to bury our works in "Extremist Literature" category for what? Historical facts? Historical opinions? Historical beliefs? Because Israel or China doesn't like us? Fucking lmao.
>>740047260BRUH NO WAY IT TURNED HIS EARRINGS INTO HAIR LMAOOOOOOOOOO
>>740048893Behold, the AI-shill's paradox. AI will free us from the tyranny of the entertainers, but also the AI company having their hand down both pockets and your diary is just the cost of business and you should start up your own trillion dollar AI company if you don't like it.
>>740048893What happened to Andrew Torba when he tried that?
it's popping
It's hilarious how AIfags think they're a tech savvy 200 IQ genius just because they clicked the generate button.
>>740031095its just codelets and jeets seething that ai can do their jobs better
>>740048920Do you have the same level of hostility towards Chinese models like DeepSeek?
>>740048954>have to pay to use service>this is insane and radicalmaybe if you're black
>>740049019If I'm paying why do they also get to harvest all of my data?
>>740049006Yes they are completely useless and enshittify Japanese on purpose with their cultural sensibility bullshit, just try Qwen and ask obvious "taboo words" which are just something you would hear in a shounen anime and watch it cry like a bitch.
>>740036410Of course not. AI is only dangerous when it's smarter than humans. If it's smarter than humans, it's not going to be dumb enough to start a war it might lose. The realistic AI "war" is everybody simultaneously dropping dead from something we're incapable of understanding. It's like when people pour molten metal into ant nests. The ants don't know what the fuck is going on.
>>740049019>AI niggers already have to pay up to keep using your favorite toy because the companies know you're too useless to do it on your own.I saw this coming all the way back in 2022.
>>740048962>look him up>he made a social media platform>wikipedia has only 1 mention of ai and it's his book that seems to be titled against ai??????
>>740049063because the ai literally doesn't run without your data retardalso literally every non-ai company takes your data so why is the distinction made only for ai
>>740049082Someone will make BasedGPT eventually, and then it's all over
if everyone with half a brain can do this then what worth does it have
>>740049063>>740049098name one artist that will draw for you for free
>>740049108"Andrew Torba" + Debanked for allowing far right (he's centrist right wing christian civic nationalist) + nazis (he's not a nazi but lets them on his platform) but not porn. Jews got mad, took away his payment processing abilities and made him an enemy #1 with slander about him online.
>>740049154I'm not paying for those, why am I being charged to be harvested?
>>740049187>effort theory of artistic value
>>740049154True, the AI needs all the data to copy paste other people's artwork or reddit comments.
>>740049195My mother. My friends. None of them ask for my bank statements either.
>>740049195nigger, what do you think drawfags are
>>740048972
>>740049154the permanent access to it is stored on their servers and everyone else can have access to your smut/weird larps with right tools.
>>740032650This one is actually a downgrade.
>>740049216>he actually thinks any of his other non-ai paid services aren't taking his dataholy shit what's wrong with you, the only companies not taking your data are ones not big enough to afford doing it
>>740032382fuck that made me horny
>>740049098the cope is already starting
>>740049279What paid services do you think I'm on, nigger? I'm not cattle like yourself.
>>740048989They still have no clue how obvious their slop is. AI can't do good eyes. It can't do good noses. It can't do any makeup at all. As this thread has shown, it can't identify scars, piercings, or differentiate between fabric and metal. I'm sure governments and companies with the good shit will be able to produce 100% convincing deepfakes... eventually, if given a shitload of time. But your average jeet can't, and the best part is he doesn't even know that.
>>740049261ok now tell your mom to draw feet for me
>>740049230what worth does it have?
>>740049271jesus christ
>>740049341I don't really want to call her up and disturb her for you. I'll do it for myself, when I feel the need.
>>740049306>actually this nigger brainedwhat the fuck are you typing on right now????????????????????????????
>>740049261ok ask your mom to draw hentai >friendsit cost you money to make and maintain friends>>740049262wow slop quality, great
Thank you all for posting in my thread. I had a blast. Remember if you want to trigger /v/tards in future, just say the AI one looks better and watch the chimp frenzy ensue.
>>740049396>wow slop quality, greatYou already like AI so what's the problem?
>>740049396This is the sad reality of the AI-nigger. Look at you.>>740049391A keyboard? I paid for that once you know.>buh buh ISPYeah, lemme just switch off all of my data protection measures.
>>740048895Ah well appreciate ya too anon. Not used to debating on 4chinz without the other guy calling me a faggot
>>740049431No problem! We'll make sure to BTFO you again anytime
>>740049458>Yeah, lemme just switch off all of my data protection measures.someone made a payment for your connection retard and had to give details, unless you're just some retard hobo that lives off of fast food wifi
>>740049450its not 2020 anymore, ai mogs all you artfaggots
>>740049431>I had a blast.
>>740049326They always have the same-face syndrome, too neat, too perfect, yet, illogical accessories and as you said things that certain governments find "tacky" or "offensive" they can't be done. (Street-Culture, Piercings, Scars etc.) Because they promote "self-harm" or "western decadence" etc, instead of being just "character illustrations."
>>740049431just watch your six trying to brag about this IRL, you got eyes on you waiting to bust your skull in.
>>740049539Damn 6 years later and it still looks like shit? That's crazy!
>>740049606>AIfags>IRLYou'll never run into them, 99% of them are basement dwelling NEETs who never leave the bedroom.
>>740049618show your improvement over 6 years, i'm waiting
>>740049667that's because they are too scared they'll get bodychecked to hospital for permanent stay or an early grave.
>>740047709Photoshop's been software as a service for over a decade. Nobody's paying that shit to touch up stuff they may make for fun once in a blue moon.
>>740049716I bet they got some nice GPUs we can rob.
>>740049667>keep ignoring all the teachers that seethed massively because every kid was using them
>>740050147To cheat on essays, yeah. Those aren't "Ai believers" any more so than Chegg users an every other ask-and-answer cheating site truly believed in it.
>>740050147Now all those kids will grow up to be just as dumb as you, congratulations retard.
>>740050213>immediately conceding99% neets into UHH YEAH BUT ACKSHUALLYgood job you festering wound troon
>>740050245liberal education system actually so nice self ownsorry we don't have more retarded troons with comedically large fake tits as teachers
>>740050320>>740050361>troonBut I don't use AI.
>>74005032099% NEETs, yeah. Those kids aren't AIfags, they're cheaters. They're calling shit slop like the rest of us.
>>740050379ignore reality faggot troons hate ai because it threatens their jobs and the environmentliteral 0 reason for non troons to care about ai any more than any other general kikery
>>740050415Can you speak English next time? I know it's hard for you considering you're Indian.
>>740050361>>740050415nigger, traditionalists hate AI because AI promotes the opposite talking points as well just as much and calls Traditionalists outdated ideals and dangerous philosophies because of some fucking savages.
>>740050415AI is way more visible and negatively impacts the average person far more than most other things.
>>740050245>encourage the next generations to be as unskilled and retarded>create the perfect slave race to be used by the new world order>???>profit off of it personally (lol)this is the future AI cucks want
>>740050507AIfags don't care about the world since they are NEETs, they too blissfully ignorant living in the comfort of their bedroom while eating their mother's leftover chicken tendies and gooning to uncanny AIslop porn all day. It's no surprise that the biggest losers in life are into it.
>>740050635It's going to be a huge wake up call for ai bros when their parents end up dying.
>>740050507Every major category of life is going to get better. You are being psy-opped by "journalists" desperate to retain their narrative power.We should IP range ban India though. Slop is an old problem and the problem is the people, not the machine.
>>740049271damn bruh If sonnet also gets a bump to their price my goonshesh IS RUINED!
>>740051114>cat imageTroon detected.
>>740051114My guy you've been saying this for years and aside from compelling uses in the field of data collation and translation, AI has been stagnant and niche.
>>740051307It's a tranny, what they really mean by better is that it lets them catfish with AI pics and AI voice changers.
AI bros.... not like this....
troons mad they are getting replace by tools
