Uh, why was the last Marathon thread nuked? Anyway, this is an amazing game. Ignore the haters. The game is free this week. I tried it for the first time tonight with my best bro Josh, womb brothering it with him, and it's was stylish, sleek, fun as fuck, unforgiving, and just a great extract looter shooter that's right up there with Tarkov. Don't think, buy it.
Blah blah blah im a bungtroon and you should buy my FOTM recycled rushed slop
>>740146894Bungiehater. Why are you even here if you don't like games?
>>740144439I gave it a try yesterday. I don't think extraction shooters are for me tbqhwyfm.
>>740147037Oh I like videogames just not bungie games not anymore anyway
>>740144439Marathon is an incredible game and the best extraction shooter right now.Season 2 is a huge step forward. The gameplay, atmosphere, gunplay, sound and extraction tension are absolutely top tier.To the developers: keep going. You are building something special, and many of us believe in this game.To the haters >>740146894 : move on. Let people enjoy the game.
>move onok>leaves>game dies>NOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>740144439Servers fixed yet or are they still having a blast?
>FUD taking oversigh, remove this one as well. Third time the charm.
>>740147698servers are fixed and I am having a blast
The new season increased the counter from 11k/12k to 30k, the free weekend brought the peak to 40k.And this on a tuesday, get it? A TUESDAY, wait for the weekend and you'll see the numbers sky rocket.
>>740144439No idea. Posting while I'm loading in, was one hell of a first day for the season. have fun out there.
I like the "PvP lite" Night Marsh mode but there's no way in hell this mode is going to attract a wider audience.>Map is pitch black>You're forced to use an especially shit sponsor kit>Rooks can still invade>PvE enemies are everywhere.Not exactly casual friendly
>>740150235problem is the big ass anomalies outright raping you. shit is insane.
>>740144439>Uh, why was the last Marathon thread nuked?Dunno but this gachashit thread is allowed to stay up for 30 hours>>740052645, because apparently Marathon is less of a game than some random Nexon mobile turdYou already know what to do though, press the 3 dots button, janny has to do his fucking job sometimes
>>740144439Yawn, shill thread, shill OP, shill anons. Cope and seethe niggers.
>>740147259Hmmmm no fuck you and your dogshit game you keep pretending to like
I'm enjoying it more than i thought i would. I think i was just ready for Bungie style shooting but in something other than Destiny killing hive and vex after 12 odd years of that.Also very funny i run into Indians that start shit, the tables instantly turn and they run going "please my friend nonononononi my friend please" and scream obscenities as i finish them. Thats my izzat now, reincarnate as a pond turtle.
>>740151804b l a s t
>>740144439Already played the Beta and it was trash. Most other people seemed to agree too since now Bungie was given a year to make it not trash or else the guillotine comes for their freedom.
>>740152034that was beta. this is the released game. are you serious? you literally cannot base your opinions on a game from an unfinished product.
>>740152139The beta was from days before release and the game hasn't received notable updates.
Tick tock chuds.Friday nights going to be 100k players.But it's still a failure right? Lel
>>740152139Beta is only a beta a year or more before release. Anything later and it's gold.In fact, Marathon was on store shelves when the """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""beta"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" dropped.
does anyone play this on console?is it 30 fps for you?
>>740155467regular and ps5 pro are 60fps. You pretty much just get better AA and a bit more in rt effects on pro, that's it.
>>740153746While I wouldn't call the server slam a "beta", it was still a cut down version of the game. It was missing 1 map (2 if you count Cryo Archive), 1 shell, and 1 faction. Also, season 2 changed tons of things. I'm actually enjoying all the QoL more than the new content, which there is unfortunately little of. I'm pissed that there are barely any new contracts.
>>740144439Fake. No one has a best bro named Josh
>>740147698They seem to be good enough to get through matches though the pre-match loading still takes an abnormally long time
>>740153881it will drop back to 10k on monday, it didn't even break its 88k PAID peak, not even f2p can bring in the hype. if it hadn't been for it season 2 would have been pitiful.
>>740144439>game is free>"sure, I guess I'll check it out">have to agree to a EULA>"ugh">click "accept" begrundgingly>try to boot up the game>forces me to install kernel level anti-cheat to play>uninstallAny game that forces players to install spyware deserves to bomb
>>740144439If I don't like extraction shooters (I tried tarkov it didn't take) but liked destiny's gameplay, would I like this game?
>>740157394>pre-match loading still takes an abnormally long timeBecause the game is struggling to find enough players to fill the match with you
>>740157994no
>>740157994absolutely not
>>740157907Either that or accept the cheaters.
>>740158332lol, the game requires kernal anti cheat but cheaters are still rampant and the streamer that bugged the cryo map to kill players that beat the boss was not punished
>>740153881>Only gets half the launch peak day one of F2PYeah, weekend isn't going to save it. COPE and ROPE.
>>740158485>but cheaters are still rampant1. Never encountered one, so I wouldn't say "rampant".2. Yeah, BattlEye sucks.>streamer that bugged the cryo map to kill players that beat the boss was not punishedHe was banned for a month.
>>740147259But Arc Raiders exists
>>740158014No? The loading issues happen after the matchmaking is already done, plus it's an issue that didn't exist when the game had fewer players. It's clearly the effects of the same issues that were booting people out of matches yesterday.
>>740153881Yes, even at 100k it would be a failure and it won't reach it.Meanwhile I get to enjoy round two of the downwards spiral :^]
>>7401444392 of my friends joined playing tonight and said they had fun, to my complete surprise.they're showering everyone with gear/salvage atm so I guess that's all it took to make people happy.will see if this retains players this time
>>740157994if you are even a little bit of a sore loser it will be impossible for you to derive joy from any extraction shooter let alone Marathon.
>>740158485I never saw a single cheater the entirety of season 1, the only cheats I saw was one anon who posted 3 webms from release week.
>>740161238>they're showering everyone with gear/salvage atmIt's a repay for the server issues on launch.
WE ARE SO BACK
Yesterday I kept getting kicked and gave up, are the servers FUNCTIONAL yet?
>>740162137Yeah they're a little slow still but you can actually get through matches at least
>>740144439Buy an ad, Maratroon
>>740144439Was it destiny fans that started the ddos attack?Based if true.
>>740153881>it's going to hit 100k on the day of F2P!>umm actually j-just wait until the weekendKEKY
>>740161718nah I mean in general, I got more salvage in one session tonight than a whole week of last season.Im finding blues and biolense seeds and shit just lying around night marsh.not to mention you can do the anomaly uncontested every run.
>>740162390It'd be hilarious if they hit it again during the weekend.
>>740157546To be fair the game was down pretty much all day yesterday for maintenance after their servers kept bugging out; people weren't able to get back on to play until 11pm EST. Bungie sort of shot themselves in the foot on Season 2 launch and lost a lot of good grace I'm sure. I don't think we will see the 88k peak ever be broken, I think best case they can hope for is 50k hit this weekend if things continue to function as they are now, especially if they extend the free week a day to make up for yesterday. We can get a better idea of numbers tonight as we will see peak hours have people ACTUALLY able to play the game. >>740162454100k is definitely a cope
Who ddosed the servers?
>>740144439The best cock and ball torture device is still a ball and cock torture device
>>740162758no one DDOSed the servers, they pushed a big update, saw service degrade across the board, found the problem (their own code), fixed it and then took down their servers to update them with the fix.
>>740147259yep Marathon is moving into a EoS alright
>>740153881Uh buddy, more people are playing TF2. Literally double it's player count. And its almost 20 years old.
>>740147259Hey shill, just a little heads up, noone actually takes onionjack seriously here.
>>740162758Claude
>>740153881100k? hahahaha good one anon*looks at the charts*21k! OHOHOHOHOHOAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA*checks tarkov*24k HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA OHOHOHOH HAHAHAHAHAAH*checks ARC*36k OHOHOHOAHAHAHAHAHA ITS SO FUCKING OVER
>>740151161It's literally just a bad faith troll you retard
>>740157546Assuming you mean a 10k peak on Monday, it will 100% be higher than that. Shame that I won't be able to quote how wrong you are since this thread WILL get ACKed.
>>740163254>game is going to get updated for years to comeOh no nono, chudsissies... can we ever win?
>>740163443>same map different sky color>updatelol
>>740163481>alongside a new Shell, progression rework,duos, etc, with a full PvE mode confirmed after season 2And what do chudsissies get? A theoretical EOS announcement to cling onto? kek
>>740163254>already peaked higher yesterday than Hunt and Tarkov before the free week even startedmarabvlls won i'm afraid
shitposting aside, i'm so glad this shell of bungie is finally resting in piece
>>740163481Night Marsh is cool to play
>>740163775>anon forgot the mythical 1M concurrent Tarkov has on its launcher.
>>740163443How'd that work out for Highguard?
>>740163673Actual games worth playing instead of this troonslop.
>>740163673Let's be real here, marathon is a husk of a game and looks like it was thrown out by the B team or something. Do you want this to be bungies legacy? That the game MIGHT become worthwhile after a couple seasons (so at least a year+ down the line)?
>>740163881I don't give a shit about highguard, I never played it. What is this collective delusion that there are games in the same "team" and this is some sort of battle?
>>740164063>What is this collective delusion that there are games in the same "team" and this is some sort of battle?But that's the literal definition of Capitalism?
>>740163881Highguard is relevant how exactly?
>>740164063It's another game that had "years of updates" planned and a roadmap. Doesn't mean shit if no one cares about your game.
>>740163967This dogshit game has no userbasethere are no raidsharcore full loot pvp appeals to a handful of peopleI don't fucking how what was going on with whoever greenlit this shit, either they're massively retarded to shit out a game with no userbase or this shit had the worst kind of developer hell imaginable and took 6+ years
>>740144439I played a couple rounds of this beginner solo map and I gotta say this game looks cool but its boring as fuck. Do I need to try another map with trios or something?
>>740163443>Marathon has confirmed years of updates!This has been an untrue cope ever since the Sony financial call because retards misinterpreted what the Sony bosses said.Games like Highguard and Concord were also 'getting support for years to come' until they didn't, and just like with Destiny 2, the axe can fall whenever Sony decides it needs to. The only limiting factor would be if you can buy a season pass for a game that includes future unreleased content, and then the company has to either give you a refund or keep the game alive long enough to see that content get released. That's it.
>>740164202The free game that never reached 4 digits after its first month? Marabros truly are in shambles upon hearing this...
>>740164340>but its boring as fuckThat's the point of the beginner map. You get to learn the game in a relatively safe environment. For more excitement (read: spawnrushing and snipers), play Dire Marsh trios.
>>740164160See >>740164202
>>740163775LOL, Hunt Showdown has over 5000 more players than Marathon right now. Your brand new game can't even compete with the small fries of several years ago even when it's free.
>>740158485>the streamer that bugged the cryo map to kill players that beat the bossHow would someone even do that?
>>740163481It's not just the sky color.
>>740163967Apparently the bulk of their devs worked on the game and it cost them $250m + advertising budget and took 7 years which is even funnier. What exactly do they pay people to do?
>>740164554Maratroons have been in shambles since the disaster launch which has only gotten worse
>>740164547>Games like Highguard and Concord were also 'getting support for years to come' until they didn'tYeah, both said that before/on launch day. Then the decision to sack Concord was made within a few days.Again, you have to bring up other games because after 3 months of calling this game Concord, the chudsissies only have the underwhelming player numbers to show.
>>740164673what the fuck is going on in this pic?this looks so fucking terribleis this like a "looks okay in motion" kinda deal?
>>740163881Highguard is a different situation because I was peaking at sub 1000 less than a month in. Marathon never dipped below 3000 (outside of maintenance).
>>740164673>you also can't see shitGreat selling point
>>740164256My understanding is that some higher up at bungo said "fuck it let's make console tarkov" when daddy sony came knocking asking for GAAS games for their first party live service plan.DESU I'm not a fan of destiny but I find it mind boggling that marathon is the only fully maintained game in this studio's portfolio lol.Like what the fuck are those 500 employees doing all day?
Im sorry but this PvE mode is boring as fuck. Even the new enemy type in nightmarsh isn't that interesting.Meanwhile rooks don't bother raiding you in the final minute.Bungie might have actually lost their touch.
>>740164882>Wow man, I can't see shit!>Great selling point
>>740164832>>740164554Marathon cost significantly more to develop and has significantly more devs working on it now.
>>740163967>Do you want this to be bungies legacy?I don't care about Bungie, unlike you. I have no parasocial baggage. Marathon could be made by an art collective in Uganda and I'd enjoy it the same. It does feel like a beta though, it needs a lot of updates to really shine. But the foundation is great and it's fun to play already.
>>740164646>less than 3k difference now Hunt gonna get pwned by Marabvlls... AGAIN
>>740164992That's retarded. Now they have to do a whole rebranding and soft relaunch of the game a la overwatch 2 to rebuild hype.
>>740164952Also shits out loot, people are going to get bored with this in a single weekend
>>740165124>just you wait, we'll surpass this 6 year old game during our free week eventually!!!LMAO, what a humiliation ritual
>>740164821>what the fuck is going on in this pic?Looking at the way the gun is held and the compass, this is me running towards Complex.>is this like a "looks okay in motion" kinda deal?Pic related.>>740164882There is a flashlight.
>>740165138>>740164952bungie forgot that rooks dont want to be complete fodder for the one team in it
>>740165229We already surpassed Hunt before Marapeak started its free week. Calm your clitty down anon.
I have battle royale and extraction shooter fatigue
>>740165412Mogged and raped by a 6 year old game, that's peak humor
>>740165647>mogged and raped by a 14 year old game
>>740165102>It does feel like a beta though, it needs a lot of updates to really shine. But the foundation is great and it's fun to play already.See I don't abide by that because I'm used to games being fully fleshed out content wise upon release, but I seem to recall that both destiny games had more or less the same problem so I guess this is the bungie way.As of now marathon clearly does not deserve my money.
>>740165434>extraction shooter fatigueThere was like 3 of them before Marathon.
>>740163958cool story shillquestion: why give the androids african american facial features? Who is the fabled Target Audience of that?
>>740164810Marathon's status of Concord 3 gets cemented when Marathon goes EOL. It already flopped commercially and player count wise.
I don't think I'm gay enough to play this.
>>740166292TarkovArc RaidersHuntGray Zone Dark and Darker Delta ForceArena BreakoutAll of this is in the last 5 years ago and not counting all of the PvE extraction games. Somehow devs all thought extraction games would be next hero shooter/battle royale and everyone is sick of them.
I actually had kinda high hopes for this game. I'm one of the few people who thinks the art and setting are interesting.But then I tried it, realized it's a slow, low ttk tacticool shooter instead of a high ttk hero arena shooter, and I never touched that shit ever again
>>740144439I don't care about tarkov or extraction shooters in general Bungie employeeI hope your studio dies
>40k peaklol
I in the name of all chuds want to humbly apologize toMarathonBungieSonyMarabrosMaradadsBLMMeTooKamalaI never thought that you would be able to do it and yet here we are, the comeback was real and it’s being studied right now, the vibes shifted, the people are hooked, the lightnings are being bottled to keep the marsh nighted, blasts are being had everywhere, we the Asmongold army surrender just like we will on the midterms, you won Marachads, this is the end of chudism#HappyPrideMonth#TransRightsAreHumanRights
>MARATHON IS THRIVING YOU FUCKING CHUDS>STOP POSTING THE PLAYER COUNTS THEY DON'T EVEN MATTERwhich is it?
>>740167514AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEETHE VIBES ARE REVERTING TOO HARDI KNEEL, I KNEEL
>>740163362I mean its going to get a what, 60k? peak tonight at 9PM EST? That is WITH F2P. Next Monday will definitely be low asf.
>>740167891>>740167514Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.And what the hell is going on with Apex Legends? I checked the Steam Top Sellers chart (Marathon is #12, lel), and Apex is #2 with 200k CCU right now. Did it also do a free event week the same time Marathon did? If so, it's clowning on them bad
>>740168319Apex is permanently F2P retard-bro. It has also been at 200k for a while now.
>>740168319Apex is F2P, and released several skins to 200k CCU. Go figure.
>>740168310Nightly peaks for Marathon normally are 8pm west coast time. The weekend peaks are actually on Thursday nights when Cryo opens, but I don't know if that's the case with the new season launch.>>740168415>>740168452Right I know Apex is F2P, I meant did they do some kind of free DLC/MTX weekend kind of like Marathon is doing. >it's been at 200k for a whileIronically, that's the number Marathon needs for paid CCUs if it wants to have any hope of breaking even.
>>740144439they don't want anyone to learn that if you pump your TV or monitor brightness to the max night marsh is brighter than the day time variant
>>740164570>"ITS BORING ON PURPOSE CHUD!"get raped "maam"
>>740169215>ask if the tutorial map is boring>get told it's the tutorial map and the rapist battle royale orgy is in other maps>TRANNIES SAARderanged
>>740164570I wouldn't call 'dealing with rats in every map' excitement.
>>740144439Do you work for Bungie?
>>740170239Yes, why?
>>740170567What are you gonna do when they layoff you?
>>740171051Migrate back to India.
>>740153881Man its the fucking launch cope all over again.
>peak gunplay>look inside>aim assist as a statlollmao even
>game still hasnt broke even and chuds still think it wont EoS within 1-2 yearslmao
how do I git gud?
>>740171304Use cheats
>>740158590>>740161473>1. Never encountered one, so I wouldn't say "rampant".Skill issue. I have blatant cheaters on my teams since day 1. t. Started the season with purple. >>740164651Not even a cheat. Exploiting map geometry errors to sneak past the boss.
>>740164810What? Game is bomb of the year, lost a quarter billion fucking dollars and Bungie is in the process of layoffs as we speak.
>>740171278>EoS within 1-2 yearsThe goalpost is on the fucking Moon.
>>740144439It blows my mind when people shit on the art style. That's the only part of the game that looks appealing to me.
>>740172264>The goalpost is on the fucking Moon.only for the shills>VIBE SHIFT 200K ON LAUNCH>150k BETA TEST 200K ON LAUNCH>(88k launch) WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND>(Weekend doesnt improve numbers) WAIT FOR THE KAI CENAT STREAMER TOURNEY>(No improvement) WAIT FOR CRYO>(No improvement) WAIT FOR MID SEASON PATCH>(No improvement) THE GAME SOLD 3 MILLION COPIES, IT DID REALLY WELL>(It did not sell 3 million copies, it flopped really well) WAIT UNTIL S2!!!!!
>>740172185>bomb of the yearhighguard exists>Bungie is in the process of layoffs as we speakmeds
Genuinely speaking why would I take a side-arm over a primary again? I get that it takes up less backpack space but it takes up the same space when equipped either way.
>>740171278>chuds still think it wont EoS within 1-2 yearsIt's 2 years now boiz! Looking good!
>>740173074I'm not sure if the CE is still not worth it, but the V11 was always a good pick. The Magnum might also be good now.
>>740172609You made half of those up.
>>740144439A few of the threads were blatant marketing, or shitposting of the same quality from it, combined with chartposting. From the start, this thread probably deserved pruning, but one designated marathon thread isn't too much.>>740173039Highguard was only 100m budget in the first place. The loss here is big enough to potentially cause a shakeup at Sony HQ.
>>740173039>highguard existsTechincally it doesn't anymore LOL. But this is a way bigger financial failure.
>>740173039>medsThey lost Sony a lot of money on this venture and literally have nothing else in development. If Season 2 doesn't start bringing in some serious money (players exploiting f2p does not make them money) then Bungie is getting on the proverbial treadmill to shed hundreds of pounds (devs).
>>740173543there was a guy in these threads last week talking about how his fake analytics company said it sold over 2 million copies (they were talking about 2 million players, including players from the free beta test)then a couple days later that same company the shill was using as his source said that marathon only sold 1.5 million KEK
>>740173039They most likely are, though. Now that Destiny 2 is finished (as in concluded) and nothing new is being made, they don't need that many people anymore.
>>740174224There is no season 2 scenario that avoids mass layoffs. They ended work on new destiny 2 content. They have confirmed no destiny 3 for now or any other big project.
Go away.>>>/vg/
the funniest thing about a game with a tranny audience is that when the desperate culture war style shilling stops you know most of them killed xerselves
>>740171304fspam maps and only use free kits until you are level 12 and you open Outpost, do not under and circumstances use any gear that isn't free before then so vault everything, you will have successful exfils on maps that you 'somehow' dont see another living soul so don't fret you will have a semblance of a kit, honestly use free kits until you have almost lost your sanity then use green gear first / blue gear next and don't touch gold gear til level 25+ unless you have no intention of trying cryo next week, in that case go ham after like level 15 so you might actually start having fun
>move to loot dead player in a corner>looting speed is abysmally slow since the stats reset>start getting shot>back out of loot screen>both my teammates have come over and are just crouched in front of me trying to loot the same body>we all just get mowed down because it didn't occur to either of them that maybe we shouldn't all pile up in one spot with our vision blocked
>>740144439>Don't think, buy it.I like to think, so I'll refuse your corporate marketing suggestion to waste money, or even my time on it. You're free to waste your time though. Maratroons spend more time on /v/ running defense force than actually playing the game.
>>740176972That's what greed gets you.Never ever ever loot unless you're sure you're finished with a teamfight.
>>740173543NTA, but I've seen shills use all of those except the Kai Cenat thing.
>>740177139it sounds like anon needed a revive and their teammates were trash
>>740144439You jeets are this desperate for new players huh, I pass I don't play gay shit
>>740177139The fight was over, and that team wipe could have been a perfectly fine second fight if any of them had just looked anywhere other than the loot bag in the corner that already had someone going through it to see the second team walk up
>>740176972What a shit game.
>>740172417Not trolling when I say I thought that was the worse part of the game and yes I finally played yesterday. Its just bright neon lego shit in your face. From the interiors, to the weapons and enemies. The artstyle is elephant doodoo caca. The one thing that looked cool was the dropships.
>>740144439Blastbros.... It's over.Pack it up, we lost the culture war.
>>740177893>19 viewsbuy an ad
Fuck the rook who jumped out of a bush less than 10 seconds before the final exfil just to kill me. You wouldn't of even had time to steal my shit.
I gave it a shot in the solo tutorial bits and had a decent time but I don't think the game's for me. Solo in the real game seems to be utter CBT and I wouldn't want to drag my random teammates down because I'm inexperienced with the game and shooters in general
>>740172139>Not even a cheat. Exploiting map geometry errors to sneak past the boss.How did that kill other players?
>>740179054>solo is CBTAptly put. The Marathon game director didn't even want solo anything in the game and Bungie only added it because the majority of feedback they got was 'are you retarded? Add solo mode,' so they got pouty and put it in but still said 'the REAL way the game is played is in three man squads.'So it's there, but they put it in under duress, just like the prox chat.
>>740178758>You wouldn't of even hadmost intelligent maraslop player
>>740144439unironically if they turned it into a battle royale I would play it
>>740177893it's over for bungie
Unironicly if they turned it into a L4D like i woud play it
>>740172417the artstyle is good on paper only, as cool concept pieces and renders, in practice it's just a vomit of hyper saturated contrasting colors with no coherence and it literally gives you a headache after playing for a while.
>>740144439play the better game instead
>>740180143I don't like Hunt's aesthetic.
>>740179507Damn I can see why this game is having so much trouble then if that's the attitude of the director
Huh? Chudbros? Why aren’t we posting steam charts? Don’t tell me the numbers are good and we’re ashamed
>>740180213I don't think he ever said that. Either that anon is making shit up or I haven't seen some interview.
>>740163775Maybe 10% and I'm being generous of tarkov players are on steam.
>>740180358>https://gagadget.com/en/628126-lone-wolves-will-have-to-wait-there-will-be-no-solo-mode-at-the-start-of-the-marathon/>"We are developing a trio centric game"It only got changed for launch after people pointed out how retarded a decision it was. Fun fact, Highguard's lead designer also mentioned how making their game PVP centered around trios was one of the things that killed it.
>>740164673I can see everything just fine wtf are your settings?
>>740179054This has kinda been boggling my mind too. Why not just add a solo only queue for the people that want that experience? Or duos only? Why stick to your guns that his has to be a trio only epic esport or some shit?
>>740180519No, I believe that he said that the game is trio-centric. I don't even need a quote for that, I can feel it in the game. I meant the "they got pouty and put it in but still said 'the REAL way the game is played is in three man squads.'". Whatever pride was expressed in that article has been swallowed long before the launch. They've even added the Rook, which has been a big hit. Solo's not so bad these days, either.>>740180673Solo and (cycling) duos exist. Or do you mean 1 player or 1 2 player team per map?
I like this game's vibes a lot.Any other games like it?
What's the purpose of ROOKs?Seems pretty pointless when you can just do sponsored runs and move your faction contracts along.The premise is fun but reward wise it never seems worth it.
>>740180943Obviously there was no article or developer quote saying 'We hate you people but we'll add solo so you shut up,' it's the swallowing pride by the solo mode being put into the game, as you said.Another good example is the PVE friendly content they're trying to add, which is a complete 180 from the game's core design and a clear panic move to try to salvage things.And I think the other anon means 'I want a lobby that is only populated by other solo players,' which would be an interesting thing I'm surprised they haven't tried yet.>>740181016Synthetik 1 and 2 do the aesthetic way better, so look at those. They're TPS tactical PVE shooters with co-op multiplayer.
>>740181016Maybe Wipeout?
>>740181024>The premise is fun but reward wise it never seems worth it.once you upgrade rook, it gets easy to do low stakes loot runs because of all the enhancements and the rook coming with a pretty decent kit compared to free kits. but early on yeah it is better to do free kit spam.
>>740181112>'I want a lobby that is only populated by other solo players,' which would be an interesting thing I'm surprised they haven't tried yet.What the fuck do you mean "they haven't tried yet"? It's been there since launch. You even talk about it in your post.
>>740181024>What's the purpose of ROOKs?Upgrades. You can get a free backpack, shields, shotgun, implants, claymores, you're a PVP backstab machine.>bring Rook to Outpost>sneak into Pinwheel, hide on the walls, lay claymores>surprise someone with a claymore and loot their shit>wait for two teams to start fighting>a team gets wiped, a lone survivor on the other team>before he has a chance to revive his guys, you pop out and kill him>you can now loot 6 geared up people for free
>>740181024It's for when you are missing 2 drone resin for an upgrade.
>>740181271That mode exists? I thought solo just meant 'you can join into existing matches on your own without having to play Rook or be matchmade into other squads'?
>>740181112>do the aesthetic way betterit's the same but more angular and with dirt and grime
>>740181417????
>>740181417>I thought solo just meant 'you can join into existing matches on your own without having to play Rook or be matchmade into other squads'?
>>740181417Aside from Cryo Archive and Night Marsh Survival that are both Trios only, and the rare experimental Trio/Duo only queue, all maps can be played solo.Are you retarded?
>>740181609>>740181547>>740181529No, I know you can join existing matches as a solo player. I'm saying I thought it works like this>join solo queue>get put into match>other players in match can be duos, premade or matchmade trios, and other solo players/Rook playersI was asking if there was a>join solo queue>get put in match with ONLY other solo players (so no duos/trios/premades); just solo players and Rookstype of thing
>>740181843>>join solo queue>get put in match with ONLY other solo playersThis exists. It's >>740181529 and Rooks don't spawn in solo games.
>>740181843>No, I know you can join existing matches as a solo playerNo, you don't know that. Because you can't. That's not a feature, unless you mean the Rook.>I was asking if there was a>>join solo queue>>get put in match with ONLY other solo players (so no duos/trios/premades); just solo players and RooksThis exists, was there since launch. Except there are no Rooks, for obvious reasons. Duos also don't have Rooks.
>>740181919Ok, thanks. It sounds like that would feel more like a BR game now that I think about it
>>740182001what's funny is every time I've seen actual shills explain the matchmaking, they only made it sound like 'matches are a big pool of premades, duos, solo players, and rooks,' so you did a better job describing the product than they did
>>740144439Bought darktide on sale recently and i have my hands full. I have absolutely no desire to play your tranny shooter. Also, it bothered me that your people were attacking crimson desert (another game orders of magnitude above your mediocre tranny corpo shooter) when it came out because it distrupted your shilling. General artstyle is horrible too
>>740144439I like Marathon but posts like this sound so fucking made up who the hell actually talks like this
>>740182134>who the hell actually talks like thisPaid shills, which is why the OP feels unnatural.
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>>740182015It does play like a BR, but the game is balanced around trios. There's no reason not to paly Assassin and camp with invisibility.>>740182134>>740182378It's an "ironic" post from someone shitting on the game. Jannies have decreed that only shitpost OPs stay up.
>>740182015In a way. It's different from a BR because you don't NEED to kill other players, and you can leave any time you want, provided there is an extraction point available. But PvP is thematically encouraged, just like how PvP in Arc Raiders is thematically discouraged. They've also added an item that let's you revive downed players that are not on your team.But I do think that Marathon has an issue in the form of the "clear the map, then loot the map" mentality. This is prevalent in trio (aka default) matches, and is exacerbated by the small sizes of maps and large amount of teams. Dire Marsh is a fucking meatgrinder. I felt more confident queueing into Cryo Archive than into Dire Marsh at the end of season 1. They reduced the amount of teams there for the last season's sponsored mode from 6 to 5, and everyone was happy about that, but then they never applied to the regular Dire Marsh.>>740182065Provided you are the same anon as >>740181843, you are the only person I've ever seen to misunderstand matchmaking in this game so badly.
>>740144439lol, no. I don’t think I will.
>>740147037I enjoy making fun of slop (like Marathon). And yes, I do hate current Bungie.
>>740147259This seems copy/pasted from /r/Bungie
>>740182871I thought it worked the way you described, but then I saw two different shills in threads weeks apart tell me different.I was never gonna play because of the kernel anticheat, tho
>>740153881>only 100k while it’s free
>are ya winning son? yea ;_;
>>740144439It's an extraction shooter.Being the best extraction shooter (and it's not) don't make it good.It's like being the best intellivision game or something.
>>740153881Shill anon, even getting 100k would be a 30% decline from the 140k it got during the F2P weekend playtest they did before launch.
>>740183341NTA, a game doesn't need to have the same number of players it did at launch. It just needs enough to populate the servers so players can get in maps and have fun.
>>740183250this is winning to you marakeks? 40k during euro prime hours top ten seller despite game being half off and f2p for an entire week? how far youve fallen.
Gave it a try since it's F2P for a while and after an hour I think the whole idea of looting and extraction is fundamentally boring and kinda promotes ganking. I can see how a specific subset of players may enjoy it but eh not for me.
>>740183667No, the game needs to have enough players to make it viable as a commercial product. Sony's not a charity, and Bungie isn't special enough to get the Naughty Dog treatment where they can just waste money forever with no accountability.
>>740144439It was "nuked" because it was too slow and fell off the board
>>740183674Scared of the US peak chud? ;)
>>740184060>yesterday's US peak was 40.5k>beaten by Don't Starve TogetherEven Hearts of Iron 4 had a higher peak lmao
>>740184060why would i? game is a flop. its fitting that the mutts love this game. youre going to be back in your the /vg/ shadow realm once the f2p boost ends. 33k right with the f2p horde lmao. cant imagine how poor the numbers will be this time next week without the f2p boost.
>>740184497you guys have been saying its about to be shut down for like 12 weeksnow it surges and it's even closer to being over?just admit you're wrong, ugly and have actual psychological issues
>>740184646the actual daily player counts are literally 10x whatever the steamdb ccu number isso roughly 500k people played it yesterday despite the server issuesyou lost, its over, you mean spirited psychopath
>>740184760lmao and steam is the platform with the most usersshits a giga flop dont worry, youll get another boost when bungie desperately pays every single streamer to shill the game this weekend. all to instill a false hope and see your flop come crashing down when the f2p third worlders leave.
>>740184497>Conveniently ignores that the servers were down for 6 hours You know it’s breaking its all time peak and you’re shitting your pants
>thought that I was a genius for figuring out locked caches are in buildings with a red smokestack>go redeem my codex>it straight up tells you about itsad
>>740184650>you guysHello, tourist.>you said it's going to shut down and it didn't! Hah! The only people who made the ridiculous claim that Marathon would get shut down in a month are shitposters and gcj/resetera fags trying to setup the exact talking points you're using now. Anons made three claims about Marathon since it got announced:>who asked for this?>it's going to flop and might kill Bungie>the art style is uglyAnd all three were right, although you can chalk the third one up to personal taste.>>740184760>um akshually, the daily player counts are 10x the Steam CCUFunny how that has never translated into sales or interest for the game, huh?>>740184994The trend leveled off almost immediately after hitting the 40k ceiling. If the number would've been higher, the flattening to a plateau would have been gradual instead of abrupt. This same thing happened at launch where everyone who wanted to play it, did, and there wasn't any growth beyond that initial core audience.
>shills go from proclaiming the game will do arc raider numbers at launch to gladly celebrating a meagre 40k, with f2p bots on KEK
>>740185051It's pretty obvious either way.
>>740183674>f2p made it top ten seller o algoDo chudsissies really?
>>740185708we know the top seller is a meme. marathon was number 2 for a day or two and top ten for a week. remind me again what was the CCU opening week and how many copies have been sold?
>>740180348As a Marabro, I wouldn't really say the numbers are that good, but it does say a lot that there are more players rn than this time yesterday. Whoever manages Bungie servers needs to get blacked.
>>740185849>Marabro>randomly thinking about black dicks
>>74018580688k peak CCU with an estimated 1,2M in 3 weeks.Not quite a success, but was seemingly fine enough for Sony to let Bungie build momentum and keep jamming >o algx
>>740186134>Not quite a success, but was seemingly fine enough for Sony to let Bungie build momentum and keep jammingBecause Bungie was so fucking dumb no one expected that the studio apparently had zero plans to do Destiny 3 even years after TFS.Such a dogshit company lmao.
>>740186134>Not quite a success,a flop. dont mince your words. a flop.>to let Bungie build momentumright and as we already confirmed, bungie had placed higher on the list before and was already a flop. not even hitting 40k during euro prime time with the f2p faucet turned on. flop. a big 'ol flop x2.
>>740186134>1,2m in 3wksI don't know why you ESLs nice comma, dickhead think it was 3wks. The 1.2m represents all sales from the moment the game went up for preorder, which was late January.>not quite a successIt was nothing approaching a success since the break even point was 7-8m units back at launch.
>>740186065>Marabro>randomly thinking about black dicks
>>740186264>flopfloplfopstop your clittyleak anon. marabvlls won. all you have is your graph lines.
So this nigga will be mandatory in Cryo, right? Should I level him up?
>>740186134>88k peak CCU with an estimated 1,2M in 3 weeks.1.5 million since anal analytics confirmed it a couple days ago. the company you shill(s) loved to parade around until they revealed how big a flop it was. hell, youre probably that same shill thinking this turd of a game sold more than 2 million copies.
>>740186134Bro it hasnt even broke even yet...
>>740186507>Should I level him up?That's not a feature in Marathon. Cradle's stat modifiers apply to all shells.
>>740144439Blast Status? Have'n'
>>740186682>Cradle's stat modifiers apply to all shells.I have been exclusively spamming Recon and dumping points on Cradle and thought it was shell specificI just checked and it isn'tVery weird, I would have made it tied to each shell, you know, to reward dedication
This new PvE lite game is total ass.
>>740186576>youre probably that same shill thinking this turd of a game sold more than 2 million copies.meds
>>740186760Would be nice if you could save shell-specific presets for the cradle, but I'm also glad that the levels aren't shell specific. It also makes sense in the lore. You power up the machine that makes shells to make better shells.
>>740186760we don't even have a sandbox to try hero skills and tards like me that have 'only' played a dozen hours since March still don't have the muscle memory for anything but the grappling hook & healing drone, when i try a different class im all thumbs just spamming whatever
>>740186759STOPTHECOUNT
Think it'll hit 50k on saturday?
>>740187314it should hit 50k tonight. real question is if the weekend will be able to surpass the launch peak and the free beta test peak.
Why does AMD frame gen kill my performance so badly?
>40k peak dropped almost immediately to ~22k>Playerbase is on the path to be back to pre-F2P player count before the trial period is even over.The week is gunna end and it's gunna have like 5k people on the game.
>>740187382>50k tonightidk anon, it couldn't hit 40k at east coast prime time and started going down. It should go up again in a few hours for the west coast peak, but I don't see it adding 20k more people.
>>740168560apex player here, they added this legend called axle recently who has some fun movement abilitiesthat plus the casual wildcard game (respawn game mode) keeps most of the players engaged who dont want to sweat their ass off 24/7
>>740187689>casual wildcard gameThat sounds kinda fun ngl. I think you successfully shilled Apex to me
>>740187530>Playerbase is on the path to be back to pre-F2P player count before the trial period is even over.Seeing today's playercount beating yesterday's during every single hour so far... I wouldn't be so sure about that. Chudsissies are truly special.
>>740187530You also have to keep in mind that Bungie has bots on the game at all times so the player count looks better than it actually is
33k peak for euros...not looking good
>>740188469I'm expecting 40-45k west coast burger peak, but if it can't even get back to 40k, then things look really bad.
>>740188375You guys are coping so insanely hard. It's not even funny at this point.
>>740187428>why does duplicating frames fuck up my gameextremely brown, sub saharan grass skirt + lip disc tier. goblins did it.
>>740188656things are already looking bad if the big f2p week can only garner 40-45k during the weekday.
>>740188656There's very consistent peaks at 12-1pm and 8-9 pm every day, and the two peaks yesterday happened exactly at those points.Ye, shit's kinda fucked.
>>740187428its not just amd or framegen, dlss is retardedly terrible on the night map, i had ghosting when panning near trucks/boxes and frizzle fry everywhere last night til i turned it off. i dont remember it happening before the new patch but also dont remember if i used dlss as a 9800x3d/5080 enjoyer
>>740188663>CopeYes I'm sure that there being 4-5K at all times even when the game is undergoing maintenance is completely normal behavior and in no way indicative of Bungie using bots to inflate the playercount
can they just bot the steam charts so that this conversation can end the game is not going to die anytime soon, it costs nothing to keep the servers up and sony has unlimited money from getting 30% share of microtransactions from shit like gacha and gta 5 (soon 6)
>>740188885If Cryo is open tomorrow, the peaks might be larger. Otherwise, I think the Saturday night peak is going to be the definitive answer for Marathon's in terms of how well this F2P week did.>>740188936Yeah, there's a smaller east coast/EU peak around UTC 2000, then the west coast/east coast combined peak three to four hours later. The first peak today was 33k, so the next peak should be 40-45k, but if it's under 40k, sound those fucking alarm bells
I'm searching solos but it takes a long time to get a lobby?
>>740144439*I don't think i'll buy it.
>>740189167cryo isn’t opening until 14th
>>740189294LOL, what a blunder
>>740189153>the game is not going to die anytime soonincorrect>it costs nothing to keep the servers upincorrect>sony has unlimited moneynot for bungie>30% share of microtransactions from shit like gacha and gta 5which they aren't gonna waste on bungielayoffs soon btw
>>740189167cryo isnt playable during the free weekbuy the game faggot
>>740189332yeah im not denying layoffs but it costs nothing to keep a game up it’s not like they’re doing much work anyway even if they totally gut the studio and like 200-400 ppl are left it costs sony nothing for keeping the game up.you realize studios with more than 800 employees go 5+ years without releasing a game and sony finances them without any issues right anyway the game is definitely performing worse than i expected for the f2p period and s2 launch, bungie’s rep is too damaged for this game to be successful
>>740189542i dont think you're mentally capable of computing how much sony invested in this company only for them to shit out this game with the only thing it creates is a hole in their pocket, which keeps getting bigger every week
>ACHSHULLY STRUGGLING TO HIT HALF OF THE PEAK ON RELEASE WHILE ITS F2P IS A GOOD THING!!!
>>740189646they’ve already gotten off like $800m in impairment losses, im sure they know they bought a worthless company. still doesn’t mean that the game is going to die.anthem survived for like 5 years lol
>>740189341
>>740189770"survived" is a gross overstatement, i suppose we have wildly different definitions
>>740189542>bungie’s repman it is not because of their rep. it is because the game sucks. 144k players tried the beta, and half quit the next day. that was not because of bungies rep, that was because the game sucks. why would people want to try the game again? because they added zombies on a night time version of a map? get real.
>>740189329What, you want the sweats to go into rape overdrive mode over the weekend? The free weekend where the casuals are supposed to get tricked into thinking the game is friendlier than it is?>>740189341>buy the gameI unironically would buy Marathon if it didn't have BattleEye and if it was solo PVE/co op PVE like Destiny. But since it isn't either of those things, I'm not even trying the free version.
>>740189332>layoffs soon btwyou have been saying that for months. meds NOW!
>>740189542>having 400 employees in Seattle costs Sony nothingWhat is this retardation? Those 400 people cost Sony $3-5 million a month in salaries alone, and that doesn't include the cost of their software or any other operating expenses. Stop being a moron.
>>740189931>you have been saying>medsright back at you, retarded faggothttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-21/bungie-plans-layoffs-after-ending-destiny-2-development
>>740189542>it costs nothing to keep a game upServers aren't free and we don't live in the better timeline with Tesla tower wireless electricity so it ain't free either. The employees ain't free cuz that would be slavery and the dedicated building to house the servers aren't free cuz taxes. My point is, get educated, bro.
>>740189864144k players trying their beta is because of the bad rep though. d2 had a peak of like 300k+ on steam alone and far higher on consoles and that was like so many years after release. the biggest failure is on consoles, which has always been a bungie stronghold. somehow this game is only liked by a specific part of the US and mostly PC players and console players want NOTHING to do with it
>>740189995>oh no... not the bloom(((berg))) article... layoffs sometime this decade...
>>740189736I'm surprised they didn't get 100k people downloading it just to laugh at it like Highguard did
>>740190005Marathon uses the most expensive server hosting available lol they have 120 tick servers and every other online game uses 20 or 30
>>740190207I hope you survive long enough to livestream your suicide when it inevitably happens, stupid fucking tranny
>>740189153>it costs nothing to keep the servers upat this point it has all do with ROI and not technology to keep it running or R&D, Sony have to show investors profit or they have to start cutting off their limbs to save face
What I’m excited about is that when the layoffs do happen, we’ll have a bunch of disgruntled employees telling-all about how this dumb shit ever got to the point that it did. And then this will crash even harder.
>D2 maintenance mode to cut costs>Marathon's last ditch upcoming (but not assured) PvE update is to garner any amount of continued revenue, not even profits to attempt breaking half, not even>People think Marathon has a futurekek
>>740190296>gets into an argument>immediately thinks of troonsDo chuddies really?
>>740190374>>740190451its ok bros it just needs to make 10 million dollars everyday for the rest of the year and it.......... wouldn't break even
>>740190374Bungie has fired, hired, and rotated their entire work force like 3 or 4 times now notoriously ever since Destiny 1. Why do you think the company is such shit?
>>740190538your denial fueled by personal investment in this ridiculous faggotroon company isn't an argument
>>740173039>>740189931>>740186920>medsOoo, are you the old Marathon shill that also posted autistically about Arc Raiders being bad? Welcome back, shillbro. Tough job market, huh?
Looking at the numbers it seems like very very few new people are trying it out even though it’s free. It’s mostly returning players, if you correlate with the CCU of day 1 before F2P opened up. That’s really crazy. No one wants to touch this game even for free, fucking kek.
Game should've been an arena shooter.Already played enough Tarkov, and even then I really wasn't a fan of extraction shooters.
>>740190669Literal who?
>>740190825Arena shooters are a dead genre. Even more niche than extraction shooters at this point.
>extraction shooters are niche >arc raiders sold 15 million copies your game is just bad bwos
>>740190267It's 60 tick. I can tell because I swap between them and Tarkov's sizzling 15 tick Unity servers. >>740191234Arc is not in the same family as DayZ/Tarkov/Hunt. It's Helldivers with makeup.
>>740191234man I'd actually love to play that game if it had a real pve mode like gray zone, pve extraction shooters are kinda kino
Weren’t deluxe edition owners gonna get season 2 pass for free? What the hell happened?
>>740191234Arc Raiders had a huge player dropoff too, even if it's more popular than Maratroon will ever be.
>>740190538>constantly uses chudsisses>recoils immediately when called a troonywnbaw, sorry
>>740191389I bought and downloaded that on a whim a week or so ago and it pretty much is a PvE extraction shooter. I had all of 1 person try to shoot at me in like 8 hours of gameplay and he immediately ran after
Games too kino for this board, its developer, and the rancid state of online gaming discussion in general.
>>740182525kek
>>740191389It's a literal PVE only game. Nobody plays it for PvP and get punished if they try. That's why it got so popular, it is a larping sim.
>>740190374I'd love that too anon, but with how bad the job market is for gamedevs, nobody is gonna spill the beans and risk getting blacklisted. Best we can hope for is a guy who just doesn't give a fuck and is leaving gaming saying fuck it and leaking everything indirectly to Tassi or Schrier who then post it.>>740191514If you bought the game, you get Season 1, 2, and 3 as part of it, I think.
>>740191861I bought the game day 1, why is it telling me to buy lux to get it? $10 is nothing, but they said it was free for use day 1 believers
This game is so boring that I suggested to my friends that we play Vermintide for our next session. Nothing in Marathon reminded me of Vermintide, and I've never even played Vermintide before. My mind just reached out in desperation for something that would seem enjoyable
>>740191767>>740191857no, no, I'm aware it has that aggression based matchmaking and people are willing to cooperate, what I mean is I wish it actually had a proper platform for it, or even better an entire gamemode for PvE, instead of it being just the PvP mode but with people acting friendly, if that makes sense.I suppose The Division 2 did it through an event (if I recall correctly) on the dark zone years ago, and gray zone will do it too soon, when squad tasking releases.
>>740192129Season 2 is paywalled? Are you sure you're not just looking at some bullshit MTX skin? The entire game is free right now, including season 2. I can't see how it would be asking you to pay for it, even if you own the game.
>>740192216Both of these are excellent games.Recon and Waystalker main btw
>>740191751nigga why do you keep bringing up trannies
I played it.Where did the woke claims come from? I was expecting Concord levels of cringe and got 0 political messaging 7 hours deep now.
>>740192325Im talking about the premium tier, yes i can claim regular tier rewards, but my understanding was that we were gonna get the premium tier for free.
>>740192445NTA but only the actual blackest of gorilla niggers and trannies are the people defending this piece of shit game, what you are is a 50/50.
>>740192461>Where did the woke claims come fromRage farming ecelebs and their troglodyte followers on xitter and this board
>>740186760That would be fucking retarded pls never make a game.
The Dark zone is 100x better then Maraslop.
>>740192513>keep making up shit to be angry aboutYou should stop this habit before you get a rage induced heart attack at 30.
>>740192479>premium tier>free>especially from BungieI think your expectations were flawed from the get go, anon.
>>740192729Angry? I think this shit is fucking hilarous.
>>740190796>Looking at the numbers it seems like very very few new people are trying it outi had a whole reply written about the number of people playing is probably pretty high since its free but bounce off it after a game or two because the new player onboarding is absolute trash with them just get thrown in a meat blender with the worst 'community' ever but then i looked at the number and boy, it aint good
Why did it take an entire 3 months for nightmarsh when this should have been in the base game?How the fuck does this shit have 300+ employees on it.
>>740173497The bolt pistol and magnum can two shot white shields pretty sure
>>740193203Bungie employees make a lot of money and they waste a FUCK load of time
>>740181024You can semi consistently leave outpost with a bag of purples at 0 cost.
>>740193902>outpostWe're all farming Night Marsh now
>>740186507Cryos gonna be him, triage, recon i bet
>>740163254>Marathon: 32k>Tarkov: 11k... kek>Hunt: 10k pfft, holy fuck, it's dropping to 4 digitsChartcucks... how do we get back from such a humiliation? We just can't seem to ever win. We need a new goalpost IMMEDIATELY
>>740182525Based
>>740188375You guys have said this for every game you don't like for years and its never been proven once outside of free games where steam isn't waiting on a cut for keys being used.I really don't think "botting" is possible with how steam keys are acquired and the accounting is done.
>fun part of these games is everyone getting by on scraps with quality loot being very rare>sponsor night marsh basically nails this because you aren't always roflstomping the stronger NPCs >except in the normal modes everyone is running around in purple/gold after day 1 thanks to the multiple bonus kits bungie keeps giving and how insanely lucrative doing the upper complex and pinwheel areJesus christ, I just don't think this game is fit to be an extraction shooter.
>>740194593we told you wipes are dumb. not even tarkov does them. the myth of "equal" footing after a wipe has persisted because tarkov wiped during its alpha and beta phase for technical reasons. people later rationalized these wipes as a good thing for the game.all it means is that whatever little progress the casuals make will get wiped out while the veterans restock their stash within a couple days and have a great advantage over the casuals.
>>740194593It's like this to get people addicted during the free trial period. It'll be "fixed" soon after the week ends.
>>740194164Triage falls off hard at endgame because everyone has 20 quick heals and can now spec into 100 regen without sacrificing other implants. It will probably still be 2x Recon to alternate pulses and someone like Destoyer or Thief that can push hard.
>>740194363The servers were completely offline yesterday but the numbers remained at +4K.
>>740194886>not even tarkov does themTarkov did them for years you disingenuous faggot.
>>740196087You know if you just boot up the game it gets flagged right? It was 4k people just sitting on the login screen.
>>740192461Nah Marathon is absolutely right-leaning and I know this for sure because one of Sentinel's skills is called Castle Doctrine and no mentally ill libshit is ever going to use that term since it stands against everything they believe in.
>>740196091i literally say they wiped in the post you illiterate idiot. tarkov does not do wipes after 1.0 because its a retarded system.
>>740196087Bot claim is disproven by the fact that it spiked to 10x that right as the servers came online.>uh oh, numbers don't fit my narrative, the playercount is bott- ACK
>>740191792man I really wish the game looked like thissomehow it's not colorful enough
>>740192461It has some anti-corporate messaging, but that's kinda it. Ask any retard why they think the game is woke, and they will show anything but Marathon itself.
I like that Recon got a major "upgrade".
>>740196195>Now that Marathon is a success, chuds are already backtracking and claiming Marathon was always chud-codedKEKAROOOOOOOOO
>>740196747>>Now that Marathon is a success,l000000000l
>>740196747NTA, but in anon's defense, Sentinel was added literally yesterday.(I do agree with you overall doe)
Tried the free trial for 30 minutes now, what a an utterly confusing mess of a game
>>740196747>Now that Marathon is a successkek
>>740196747>Now that Marathon is a success
>>740144439I like the graphics, sound design and gunplay, but the first map is fucking massive and feels empty. I guess that's the point, but it's just not fun running around for 15 minutes running into the same abandoned buildings filled with nothing but depleted shield charges over and over. I heard the other maps are better, but right now it's just kinda "Alright".
>>740197778If you're new you're on the baby mode version of the map with like 3 other peeps in it. It's intentional. Perimeter can be pretty hot at times on the regular version.
>>740197778you talk like a mediocre pussy faggot
>>740197940Ah that's why, becuase I played for an hour, did like 4 matches and only ran into another guy like once. It was a fun shoot out, but it feels like that needs to be happening way more.
I gave it a second chance but its even worse than i remember. This might sound hyperbolic but even destiny 2 was better than this, they shouldve made this a mode/dlc for that game.
>>740198048Sorry little bro, your game is just underwhelming so far.
Ran into another player for the first time killed him in 3 seconds, shooting feels good, why can’t i just run around in the huge ass map just blasting people in the face constantly instead, how can people enjoy this dumb ass run around looting shit, first and last time i tried this joke of a genre
>>740198163I think once you hit level 10 or 12 it'll put you in the real lobbies. It used to be you could only play like 3 games on that mode before being dumped into the deep end but they wanted noobs to not get scared off as quickly.
>>740198232get a life you ugly samefagging psychopath
>>740198341Maybe I'll give it another shot later>>740198427Get some help, anon. Your mental health is clearly declining.
Are marathon shills the most embarrassing playerbase in existence? They've somehow managed to become more deranged than destiny fans in the span of a couple months
>prime time in burgerland>34kBets on it getting to 40k in the next 3 to 4 hours when it hits the daily burger peak? I'm saying.. 40% it does.
I hope every Marathon player and the devs at Bungie have a blast by putting the barrel of a shotgun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
>>740196140>It was 4k people just sitting on the login screensure they were, i bet people just sat on the main menu with their thumbs up their asses oggling over the beautiful mtx of robots in adult diapers and lego guns because bungie didnt announce servers were down and hammering the matchmaking button worked lmao my ass off
>>740198616Not the weekendSaturday night is 100k minimumThere still time to get in at the groundWe will forgive you for doubting
Yep that's bait
>>740198670I left the game running for like an hour yesterday while I went to the store yesterday. So I did contribute to that. Just forgot to exit and went to do other shit.
>>740198670>t. doesn't have two monitors
>>740198734This shit isn't hitting a 100k. Anyone who was interested is on it today, and at least half of those are gonna get filtered by the boring beginner matches.
>>740198814If he hates it then it must be good.
>>740198814Damn Joe has alcoholic face
>>740198734Just like the launch when friday struggled to barely pass thursday and then it fell on saturday
>>740198781>>740198812and bungie thanks you for your sacrifice, you are a true mensch
After playing the tutorial and 2 matches I uninstalled. Ugly, slow as fuck and completely empty
I genuinely can't tell who's unironically shilling marathon and who's doing it ironically
>>740198864He's actually a huge shill and loves the game, he just hates how they are handling it and are desperate for money (how is he this dumb after 12 years of deadstiny).
Is the game supposed to look like all the assets are using placeholder textures?
>>740198876Dude's like 40 something and stuck having to fake being mad at games he doesn't give a shit about to keep the algorithm and his NPC audience happy. It's enough to make any man hit the bottle.
>>740198814>Tahnit hasn't roped yetI'm surprised. I guess he'll go down with the ship when Marathon starts hemorrhaging players again after the F2P period ends.
>>740198994It's part of the appeal you fucking chud
>>740198978i mean even his initial review score is a 6/10 because he likes it enough and says it would be a 5/10 for everyone else, that is not glowing praise
>>740199235This nigga needs to get on a treadmill asap.
Played a few more rounds. Looting feels bad there is so much trash and your starting gear means that, as a new player, you constantly have to stop and review items, drop vendor trash. Which just makes you so vulnerable, with bad armor. ammo feels tight as well. i felt like i could only handle 2-3 firefights before running out/low. It's a shame, the maps look good. and i like the story concept. I really wish it had a single player storyline. I have no desire to grind contracts for another40-60 for story slivers.
>>740198734It'll peak at around 60k and decline precipitously over the next week, especially sharply after the 9th of June. Nothing really has changed other than a free week (which many people have already tried out for a day and quit).
Your reminder they shilled the F2P weekend during the state of play that had over a million people watching
Marathon's a game for dads that have responsibilities, it’s not a game for incels on /v/. Once the bull is prepped and my baby takes a nap I can go in for as long as she’s napping and maybe exfile or maybe not but those 20 minutes I get to have alone and remind me of halo or D1 are dopamine you can’t get anywhere else. And if she/he wakes up mid game I don’t give a shit because I’ll put my controller down and lose what I probably would lose anyway as a solo player. It’s just a time stamp.
>>740184650>you guys have been saying its about to be shut down for like 12 weeksWe underestimate how fucking desperate Sony and Bungie is with their sunk cost fallacy. Any other game would've just stop funding shills like you and fade away.
We’re parents—we grind our coffee before we grind for loot. Our valuable gaming time is unpredictable. Finding time to game often requires strategic planning and can be interrupted frequently, because at the end of the day, the real endgame is raising tiny humans who know they’re loved… and eventually old enough to join us and play. We understand and we’re here to help you team up with like minded players. Who are we? We’re just a bunch of dudes with responsibilities, who love to game. We started out way back in 2014 pre-launch of Destiny with our clan ‘Dads of Destiny’ and we’re fans of all of Bungie’s work. We built lifelong friendships over years of gaming together and will continue as long as our old, tired eyes and lengthening reaction times will allow. We started when our little ones were very little and now, some aren’t so little (or as cute). Many are now old enough to play with us. The play sessions we’ve had with all sorts of parents,we treasure dearly, and hope to continue to make new connections and new memories.
>>740184650>now it surges and it's even closer to being over?the game is f2p for a week, and just had a new season released.you call this a surge?
>>740199546It needs another 8 hours. Keep going. I had the same complaints starting out.
>>740199805and this shit heap still hasnt cracked 40k? lmao.
>>740200065Today's peak probably won't be for three hours. It will probably get above 40k, but only barely. Pretty bad numbers since it's both F2P and on sale right now.
>>740184994> breaking it's all time peak amd your shitting your pantsI hope it gets to 8,000,000,000 players. so everyone has to look at this fuck ugly dogshit. and then I'll get to hear you fags new cope about why its back to the same 10,000 visually impaired lunatics that stuck around from the first go round.
>>740200048I know the extraction shooter routine and I don't really care to start it from zero again, would rather pick Arc Raiders back up where I'm already somewhat established.
>>740198670I heard a rumour they were gonna give kits to everyone effected by the outage so I had the login screen up in the background.
>>740200794Did they?
>>740196087>theyre botting the game to make it look popular and not a flop!>but theyre only botting 4000 players for some reason. You have profound retardation.
>>740200827nta but I didn't login at all yesterday so all I have are my ones for playing in s1
>>740200827Nah I didn't get shit.
>>740200936Bots aren't cheap and Sony might get suspicious.
Why would anyone waste their time playing this shit? They literally delete all your progress every 3 months
>>740201005under the table small-scale (illegal) expensive botting is more reasonable to you then 4000 people were waiting for the severs to come back on?And bungie is taking this risk because an extra 4k on the steam chart would do what?
>>740201148You know some people play csgo and they don't even play ranked they just jump in there to shoot other people and have fun, for the thrill of it.
>>740201005>>740201005It seems like too much hassle to fake 4000 players (and even more than that if you think most of the playerbase is bots), the game is decently demanding so they'd need a server farm with at least 4000 instances of it sitting on the main menu. Not that it's out of the realm of possibility, but it's a fair ammount of work to set that up and run it 24/7 for it to pretty much be a loss leader on a game that's already a loss leader on top of that.
>>740201242Me but with gungame servers once every 6 months.
>>740201242yeah but those games are fun because everyone starts off on equal footing and no inventory bullshit
>>740201245>>740201168>>740201005An anon in a past thread explained it as Bungie's engine being shit that when they take it down for patches that the game doesn't go down for everyone playing at the same time, so you get a combination of people idling at the title screen while they wait, some people maybe being able to play in their region, and others just closing the game.The engine being shit is a much more plausible excuse than 'Bungie pays for a small amount of bots that won't really change anyone's opinion.'
Like it or not, Marathon is here to stay.
>>740200936>>740201245Their game has 10k players concurrent on the regular. So 4k is A LOT
Oh my Faucci is that exactly 4000 players still waiting for bungie's new game to come back? Why I outta buy two copies of the deluxe edition so me and Tyrone can play!
black tier ass
>>740201452>>740201414Reminds me of people saying BG3 was botting 100k players. That one was even more silly due to it being a single player game where player count doesn't matter.
another fantastic exfil w/o seeing a single living soul, im having a blast!
>>740201594>if the numbers dont agree with me then the numbers must be wrong.it's caveman thinking, there's still millions of Americans that think an election was rigged because some junior developer on $15 an hour dumped a bunch of data into a chart with the same timestamp.
>>740201452>6k would be a certified flop, but 10k? oh man suffering from success.think nigger, THINK
>>740201678are you playing sponsored night marsh? there's 2 rooks on the map tops.go play regular night marsh and get but blasted in the first 30 seconds so then you can complain about that instead.
>>740201415In the toilet where it belongs.
>>740201594>people sayingI think it was one or two legit schizos who would go into each BG3 thread and screech about Tencent.>>740201849There is something to be said for Bungie or Sony deploying bots to keep the CCUs on Steam from having a sub-10k peak, because of the damage it would do to their pride and the game's reputation. Remember, they will not tolerate having another Concord level embarrassment. Which makes me wonder what they're going to do with Fairgame$ or Horizon Hunter Gathering
>>740201912>run time 12:11try again
>>740202409there would be no functional/legal difference on their end deploying 500k bots or 1k bots, the cost is negligible considering how much is invested in the game already.there is no reason that someone would decide to have just a couple of bots, it wont effect sales someone looking up the steam chart and seeing 6k vs 10k, it wont make it look like less of a failure.if you think it's about image imagine if it leaked they were botting?it just doesnt make sense no matter how much anons want it to be true.
its over
This experimental PvE queue is so bad.Now I get why this doesn't have a PvE mode because all the enemies are SHIT.
>>740144439>to play this game, first go into your BIOS and-Yeah no lol
>>740202658>could bot 500k or 1kThat's kind of my point. Anything above probably 10k would get noticed, especially as the game's population gets lower. But a small amount like 4-5k, just enough to keep your game's CCUs above 10k on your lead platform? Low risk of getting busted, probably cheap to do, and with more upsides than downsides.
>>740202717Yeah it's kinda boring, it seems like they're only putting a few rooks on the map though, the most I've killed at extract was 2.It has made me a think a PVP mode with 30 rooks spawning into the start and 1-2 teams might be cool, with rooks making a bunch of uneasy alliances.
>>740202962desu I think most of the rooks are just dying out in the swamp or being killed by uesc.
What's the point of playing as a rook?
>>740202887>more upsides than downsidesI just dont see how 6k vs 10k is worth even deploying the infrastructure and spending any time on, there's 0 upside except your imagined reputation benefit that somehow is fine at 10k.who wasn't going to buy the game at 6k but would at 10k? who even looks at steam charts except 4chan dot org slash v slash?any time or money spent on 4k bots could be spent literally anywhere else, a billboard in a random city would probably do more for sales than any amount of bots.
>>740202962I know a few people who love running rooks and the problem is that no one wants to RP as fodder for the one team that farmed up a map alone.Rooks take advantage of the chaos when two geared up teams fight against each other.It's not bearly as fun or interesting when its just a bunch of rooks fucking qround while one souped up team exists.
>>740202658It's really just shower thoughts and another point to torment Bungie shills over, and since it's the known habitual scumfucks called Bungie, it's not off the table. They better pray Sony is merciful with that future restructuring.
>>7402030690 cost and starts with what ends up being a ~10k kityou can leave with a bag full of shit with zero risk.it's a bit shitty at the moment but when it was outpost rooks were making bank.
>>740203154Falling beneath sub-10k would be the trigger for the clickbait media crowd to start pumping out 'CONCORD 3 CONFIRMED' videos and media left and right, which would spread into the normiesphere and probably ruin what little positive sentiment the game had. No news, ironically, would be better than bad news.And like I said, never underestimate corporate hubris. Concord was supposedly Herman Hulst's baby, so if Marathon is someone's baby, and that someone has enough pull, stupid shit like botting to fake numbers could happen.
>>740203197they're only souped up because they let them, they're white shields with the worst AR in the game when they load in.I imagine the meta hasn't emerged yet but I think it would make sense for the rooks to single out and chase down the runners at the start as quick as possible, because the runners have to kill blues and purple bots to get lots of tokens, which makes them vulnerable.how much time advantage are the players getting? (I havent tried it yet)
>>740203458Rooks spawn in later and any team that has actually played the game can immediately gear up especially when all they have to deal with are NPC mobs.
>>740203458Sponsored is 18 minutes for squads and for Rooks you seem to spawn around 10-13 minutes.
ive been hearing a lot of destiny players are actually trying the game and having fun with it. fucking dumbasses, its almost like the ecelebs they worship dont actually play games.
>>740144439Having a blast?
>>740203835Source?
>>740203835Lmao nice try little troon, no one is playing slopathon
>>740203835makes sense, destiny players need an abusive relationship with a shitty game to keep themselves happy
>>740202658>no functional/legal difference on their end deploying 500k bots or 1k botsthis nigga never heard of MAUs as a metric of success
>>740193112Worst community ever ? Marathon has the most forgiving community in extraction shooters only second to Ack Raiders
The spooky new enemies are just another set of bullet spongesWhat is wrong with BungieThese are the same guys that designed the simple yet diverse Halo roster to fightNow we just get the same fucking flavor of bulletsponge and statcheck
>>740204194dude i heard a prepubescent boy ear rape a women on my team in prox chat after he downed her calling her a fucking bitch, i had the gnarliest halo ptsd right then
>>740204272Nice, just like the good old times
>>740204217>These are the same guys that designed the simple yet diverse Halo roster to fightWho's going to tell him guys
>>740203548>can immediately gear upeven if they rush the supply things they've not got much chance of even getting shields, I've seen 1 purple bag and 1 blue shield in the 10 runs I did last night.I dont think there's actually much chance for a team to get geared enough to beat a few rooks picking them off in the darkness.I say this because I the rooks I've versed aren't even trying until the last 10 seconds of the match, and the one time a rook did fight me it took out two of us while we were looting.that mode will devolve into a horror game where you're hiding from rooks, mark my words.
How the fuck did this cost $300 million to make while arc raiders has more maps, more enemy variety and better gunplay? Can someone explain this to me?
>>740204129in what world is 10k and 6k both not massive failures you moron.
>marathon is already losing players one day after the big s2 patch and f2p went liveKEKAROOOOOOOO
>>740191376>It's Helldivers with makeup.what a retarded cope, it absolutely is not
>>740204938>it absolutely is notit is though, you've got safe slots, which is a mechanic for babies who cry when they lose their toy.
>>740205008Tarkov has safe slots
>>740204691in a world where concord existed, i cry myself to sleep every night bro
>>740192461it's ugly and aesthetically abrasive on purpose, that's one of the tenets of progressive shitlib art
>>740185051Did they buff the loot from those fuckers this season or are they still about as good as any other container?
>>740205153you're supposed to ignore them then do a solo as a thief and loot only the good ones then extract 5 minutes in.
>36k when its fucking FREE>already lost 5k players since last night>review scores droppingAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>740205313Wait til the weekend retard
>>740192461Because 1 (one) of the shells has black features.If they played the game they would also know that one of the audio logs has a guy mention his husband in passing once. Very scandalous.
>>740205320I heard this same cope when the game dropped
MARAKEKS YOU PROMISED ME TONIGHT WOULD SHATTER THE CCU PEAK FROM LAST NIGHTWHERE THE FUCK IS IT?
>>740205453Wait is that true lmaoThe nigga shell is zesty too?
I have yet to see gameplay of this kusoge
>t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶a̶m̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶u̶r̶n̶a̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>t̶h̶e̶ ̶v̶t̶u̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶p̶o̶n̶s̶o̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶a̶m̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>4̶0̶0̶,̶0̶0̶0̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶c̶o̶r̶d̶ ̶f̶r̶e̶a̶k̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>r̶a̶i̶d̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶"̶c̶r̶y̶o̶ ̶a̶r̶c̶h̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶-̶ ̶c̶a̶l̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶g̶a̶y̶s̶"̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>d̶u̶o̶ ̶q̶u̶e̶u̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>t̶u̶r̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ ̶r̶e̶g̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶m̶a̶t̶c̶h̶m̶a̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶c̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶l̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>̶2̶0̶%̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ ̶s̶t̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶s̶a̶l̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>s̶e̶a̶s̶o̶n̶ ̶2̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶̶>d̶e̶d̶i̶c̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶P̶v̶E̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>F2P will save the game <----you are here
>>740205313>review scores droppingthe recent reviews are pretty funny, they're the least genuine I've ever seen and from the knob-slobiest fanboys I've ever seen.>umm actually the artstyle sucks, ARC raiders is better (4mins played)>Just play Arc Raiders, this one ain't it (20mins played)
>>740205986Holy based. That's actually a great idea. Gunna install when I get off work, idle it overnight (so my playtime looks more natural), then leave a negative review when I wake up.
>>740206208that sounds like a good use of time for someone with as much going on as you.
>>740206243It costs me literally nothing and uses my computer while I'm asleep that'll be on anyways. It takes maybe 5 minutes of my time max if I write a non-review.
>>740206289>im gonna do all this shit to be like the losers you were just laughing at.ok bro lol.
>>740206337Cope and seethe.
https://youtu.be/_SWDvAf02o8
>>740206484>C..cc.cope and S..s.ssseethe! *fart noises* *shits on self*
>>740205986destinyfaggots are insane losers kek
>>740205320AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>740205986>from the knob-slobiest fanboyspot calling the kettle black
>>740206337these losers are bringing the review score for your favorite game down and it will never go back upyou lost
>>740206723not the review score! aaaaaaaaaa
>>740206660>um acktually im a better bungiefag because i'm not this specific type of bungiefag >*sucks cock and pays bungie for it*lel
>>740205313>mfw I thought it'd at least be 40k when I checked an hour agoHoly shit. My expectations are still too damn high for this game.
>>740206798>review score doesnt matter chud>sales dont matter chud>players dont matter chud
>>740206807its free, for the entire world, on every platform, and all they could pull in was 25k more concurrent players
>>740206859I've never made a thread about the financial performance of this game, anon.I just play it, and when it dies ill stop.
>>740205986>they're the least genuine I've ever seenClearly you haven't seen much. Hell, marathon didn't have a genuine score before the free weekend either. The devs begged in the official discord to give the game more reviews so obviously it got distorted by ultra fanboys, giving it both more reviews and a better score than it normally would have.
>>740144439>3 months of /v/eddit tourists tortanicposting a 7/10 gameMy only condolence is Destiny is finally dead. I wish WoW would die too. Time to move on with your lives retards.
>>740206918Should've brought it to Switch 2, there's no extraction shooter on there as far as I know. The only competition will be DMZ in CoD.
>>740207072like modern bungie could optimize this ugly ass game well enough to run on switch 2
>>740206971>The devs begged in the official discordanyone that would write a positive review after being told to would write a positive review anyway? are you just saying that "people that liked the game said the game was good" man what a fuckn scandal.
>>740205313It's a game designed to be played in short bursts retard, 36k for Marathon is equivalent to more like 90k for another multiplayer game that forces you to play for lengthier match times.
>>740207330wow new cope just dropped
>>740205885Most likely one of the colonists. The shells themselves don't have lives, they get printed for the deployment and probably get recycled if they return.
>>740196140Remember how when the server maintenance occurred early in season 1, there still like 3k people left? That number shrunk proportionally with the player count, and now it rose again. That is genuinely just people idling on the title screen.
>>740189542they get to work for 5 years without releasing a game because it is expected that they will have a game that makes atleast 3 times that money backmarathon and destiny isnt making them money, destiny 3 is not in production and they just wrote off bungie in its entirety just like they did with firewalk studios and concordwhat happened to those employees after? fired
>>740196747Always knew Ukraine gorefags is into such a fucking faggot game like Marathon.
>>740207330Huh? Sister? I’m not sure this cope was in our discord list
>>740147124to be quite honest will you fuck me
