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Uhhh does this mean every dino game we’ve been playing is scientifically wrong?
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>>740398568
you're a little late to the party op
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we still can't cure cancer or alzheimers so I can't really trust scientists over what the world was like millions of years ago
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ah sweet more of this bait
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didn't the first jurassic park literally mention dinosaurs having feathers?
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>>740398568
Paleontology is a pseuoscience
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>>740398815
why don't you try doing science with nothing to go off of but bones and rocks.
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>>740398568
>this one fossil may have had feathers therefore every dinosaurs had feathers and also they look more retarded because fuck you
>giant versions of the reptiles we still see today? why that's just crazy!
modern science is a joke
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>>740398568
>believes in jewish nonsense
NGMI
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>>740398568
The videos of replicated T rex sounds are scary as fuck so I'm glad they don't do generic roars
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>Scientists say if humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time, humans would have domesticated them easily, like cats, dogs and horses.
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>>740398568
a jew conspiracy to make dinosaurs feminized because young boys love dinosaurs and we can't have them enjoying things
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>>740399006
But they weren't giant versions of reptiles we see today. If you want giant versions of reptiles we still see today, you have other families of ancient critters to s0 yface over.
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>>740399064
>>740399145
two distinct flavors of retard; take your pick
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>>740398953
I simply would not. I'd stick to things i can OBSERVE, you know, like how the scientific method works.
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>>740399247
You can observe bones and make predictions based on them. Just because it flies over the smoothest of brains doesn't mean it's not science.
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>>740398568
Yup, they were giant chonker birds with hands and teeth.
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>>740399006
>modern science
its actually journo fucks

some guy writes about new findings, offhand mentions some tiny minor detail in some very specific context
and journos blow it out of proportion and say everything is like that
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>the same braindead takes and retarded memes reposted EVER FUCKING TIME in any fucking dino thread on the whole fucking site
is it so fucking hard to discuss dinosaurs like a sane person for you guys?
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>>740399145
That makes no sense, you retarded faggot.
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>>740398694
both are caused by sugarmaxxing and are easily fixed through diet and regular exercise but the industry makes too much money from getting people hooked for life on symptom treating trash that causes a myriad of other problems which they sell additional symptom treating idiocies. there is no incentive for them to truly cure people; quite the opposite, really. baffling how people think a business endeavor would act benevolent towards them
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>>740399338
never played it but for some reason i feel obliged to mention Dino Crisis (1999) for the Playstation
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>>740399316
>just make shit up lmao
that's basedence alright
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>it's another episode of "chuds believe ancient prehistoric animals are part of their demoralization theories"
I hate reruns
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Really don't care, most of the popular dinosaurs used in vidya are based on the scary JP dinosaurs, where were in reality chimera beast approximations anyway. I don't care if some science "journalist" is triggered to hell and back and screeching at people to stop having fun, I'm going to keep playing games and consuming other media featuring the scary/cool dinos.
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>>740399316
Ahhhh yes. Observations based on conjecture that can never be tested. TRUE science
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>>740398568
People knew that dinosaurs had feathers back when Jurassic Park came out, but the people who wanted to play dinosaur video games wanted to play the Jurassic Park style dinosaurs. Everything is going to be a little bit scientifically inaccurate, just because they're trying to sell their games based on design, not the current scientific knowledge, and so will include inaccuracies for something more appealing.
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we will never know how they really looked like, we can get closer but it's still just an approximation, if you think the first lizard like t-rex is the real one you're retarded, and if you think the furball goofy one is really you're just as retarded
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>>740399247
and how would you do that without ever keaving your basement?
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Those fags can't be sure if it's gonna rain or not tommorow but I should believe them about thing that happened 300 millions years ago or what will happens in 300 years ?
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Dinosaurs are a psyop to support evolution theory, Dinosaur bones are actually dragon bones. Proof? Almost all ancient human cultures have some sort of reference to dragons but none of dinosaurs.
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>>740400063
because nobody bothered to study and analyze the bones until after the scientific revolution happened you retarded moeposter
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>>740400063
no they're gnome bones, all cultures have some sort of gnome, they were gnomes with magical powers, that's how the bones travelled through time and became bigger.
That's also who rules over us disguised as a jew: it's the gnomes.
Think about it, why does everyone deny the existence of gnomes? Because they're not allowed, it's a worldwide spell
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>>740400063
this is obviously wrong but also way more fun to believe so maybe i should be stupid on purpose so i can believe dragons are real.
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Maybe it's because I'm just way better than you people but I've no issue with us finding out more accurate facts about dinosaurs.

If you only liked dinosaurs because of fantasy crap like them breathing fire then you never liked dinosaurs to begin with.
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>>740399796
honestly true because chasing accuracy just makes your designs liable to become "outdated" the second a new paper drops, and no sane developer would go back and fix all their assets just to keep up with that
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>>740398796
Yeah, the very first scene is about a smartass kid lecturing paleontologists on how dinosaurs are related to birds
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Old dinos are sexy
New ones are not
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>>740400418
Nah thats retarded cus the bones are too big to be gnomes dummy
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trust the science chuds!
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>>740400643
You couldn't be more wrong.
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>>740400648
They grew from absorbing calcium
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>>740400063
Dragons were not animals but plasma discharges and space happenings.
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>>740400707
Thats a monster
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>>740400418
>this bullshit again
Christ, will you retards ever stop? There’s no conspiracy keeping you from talking about a non existent gang of malevolent manlets. They just don’t exist and everyone with a brain just realises talking about us would make them look like a moron.
People have tribute to gnomes for the same reason they sacrificed for all the other shit that doesn’t exist; they wanted to feel like they were doing something whenever they were powerless.
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>>740399460
It prevents people from turning interests and fiction from their formative years into their own thing.
It is the sabotage and suffocation of potentially competing media franchises in their cradles, people are alienated and disowned of their childhood media, not with a bang nor with a whimper, but with an "ehrm actually this was never true". Cultural touchstones are explicitly being dug up and removed, made the exclusive domain of existing franchises that are all owned by one or two conglomerates.
It's insidious, like long duration copyright but worse.
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first one is wrong. raptors had feathers but large theropods didn't. the lip thing is probably true though. only crocs have visible teeth amongst modern reptiles and it's because they live in water.
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>>740398568
Look at how both those "science correspondent" are woman.

Do you really think women and beta males are telling the truth?

Most dinosaurs had scales, and were more like Crocodiles, a handful of smaller "dinosaurs" had feather patterns because every big animals at the time was just labelled a dinosaur.
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>>740400787
if you don't think dinosaurs with feathers are cool then that's a skill issue i don't know what else to tell you
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>>740400873
>and were more like Crocodiles

Laying about and doing nothing for 24 hours per day? I think I prefer their interpretation.
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>>740400879
See this anon is also a beta male
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>>740399338
Because you have a bunch of third world brownoids that believe demons placed fake bones underground to trick them
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i;ve been watching videos about stone age weapons and it's crazy how power sharp rocks actually are. one thrust of a flint spear will crack open your skull.
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>>740400919
I'm sure you would faggot, you're still wrong
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>>740399316
>You can observe bones
...and work off your feelings? That's not science.
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i am a caveman from 1 billion years ago
we had spaceships and shit
and dinogods ruled the human slaves until the space jews saved us
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>>740400993
Are you a mormon or something? I've never seen such disdain for facts and logic before in my life.
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>>740400747
The knights and kings fought... plasma discharges??
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>>740398568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4AxsrZHF_k
This is what dinosaurs sounded like btw
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im ok with both existing. dino media is all fiction anyway. the real enemy is convincing people to stop cock sucking realism.
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Every single thread about dinosaurs has the same fucking retarded discussion about muh fetathers/scales etc.
Jesus fucking christ.
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>>740401156
>bait board has bait posts
wowa
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>>740401156
>.t feathered bitch
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>>740400063
>ancient cultures had no mentions of extinct animals whose corpses they were not digging out
Thank you for your valuable input, Captain Obvious.
>Almost all ancient human cultures have some sort of reference to dragons
Are you going to say Bigfoot is real just because we have references to it?
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>>740401156
I mean, what more is there to say?
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>>740399460
It does. Go look at childrens' sections in libraries and book shops. It's all feminized shit. Remember those amazing books with detailed drawings of trains and machines and boats, they're all gone. Replaced by books about feelings.
I wanted to buy a book about boats for my nephew who's gotten really into the titanic lately and it was impossible. They just don't make them.
Dinossaurs were the last bastion and they're trying to take them away too.
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"Oh no! A scientific paper is suggesting something different from what my favorite Hollywood Jew has imprinted on my fragile mind. Ahhhhhh! Nooo! Jews, save me! Imprint more memories on my mind, please! Ahhhh!"
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>>740401223
Bigfoot was real! America was home to a lot of creatures that are now extinct! Just like the wendigos!!!
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>>740400879
Regardless if you want to fuck around with Dinosaurs you are now split between:
>Science autism, I read this in a clickbait article Dinosaurs have F E A T H E R S, they are basically chickens
>Childhood autism, If these Dinosaurs don't look like shrinkwrapped snake leather skeletons I am going to scream
And suddenly it's not just normal "Here is my take on generic Dinosaurs for my shooter game or whatever", it's stupid bipartisan shit. Unless you are ESTABLISHED BRAND, everyone is just going to overfocus on the most irrelevant thing ever and you will have zero real ability to fork off of what you like about Dinosaurs.
>>740401081
Blood drives got pretty violent back in the day. There was no other way to afford armor and there were no cookies. It was grim.
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>>740401432
a wendingo just flew out of my ass
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The only thing we can all agree on is that these things were BIG.
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>dinos were all faggot birds
>ninjas actually came from a james bond film from the 70s
>viking horns were ceremonial
>greek and roman cities were filled with pride colours statues, not beautiful white marble
>most medieval wars were fought by peasants wearing thick cloth and using farm equipment to beat each other instead of being dressed in chainmail or plat armour
>most the great wall of chino is just a bunch of dirt shaped into a wall that isn't very tall
>neaderthals we're actually super strong savages but basically just humans with a slightly different skeleton
>humans mostly hunted by just chasing an animal until it exhausted itself
>the cowboy era only lasted about 30 years
>colonial era pirates resembled your average colonial European in attire and accent
-__-
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>>740399006
Big chungus on the top right
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dinosaurs looked like crocodiles, not birds
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>>740401587
trust *clap* the *clap* soience *clap*
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>>740398568
Why are they still reporting this as news as if they haven't been doing this for like 20+ years already at this point?
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>>740401479
Ughh you're no fun at all anon!
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>>740401587
all wrong
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>>740399145
Good job jews, now you have a whole generation of men who want to fuck dinosaurs.
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>>740401707
What if, instead of fucking a dinosaur, I want to get fucked by a dinosaur.
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>>740401156
you are the cancer that you criticize, you complain yet you did not post your favorite dinosaur
accept your faults and find that things get better when you realize this

for me? it's the Terminonatator
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>>740401587
reality is often disappointing
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>>740401707
>SCIENTISTS SAY DINOSAURS HAD BIG TIDDIES
No way!
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>>740401085
This is what they sounded like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDMHHw8JqLE the world back then sounded like a constant war zone
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>>740401587
>dinos were all faggot birds
>ninjas actually came from a james bond film from the 70s
>viking horns were ceremonial
>greek and roman cities were filled with pride coloured statues, not beautiful white marble
>most medieval wars were fought by peasants wearing thick cloth and using farm equipment to beat each other instead of being dressed in chainmail or plate armour
>most of the great wall of china is just a bunch of dirt shaped into a wall that isn't very tall
>neanderthals weren't actually super strong savages but basically just humans with a slightly different skeleton
>humans mostly hunted by just chasing an animal until it exhausted itself
>the cowboy era only lasted about 30 years
>colonial era pirates resembled your average colonial European in attire and accent
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>>740401781
Your reality maybe
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>>740401587
>dinos were all faggot birds

It's the other way around, you idiot.

>ninjas actually came from a james bond film from the 70s

Yeah, ninjutsu isn't real. Fucking moron.

>viking horns were ceremonial

OK? Vikings still existed. Vikings still exist technically, they just stopped Viking.

>greek and roman cities were filled with pride colours statues, not beautiful white marble

Statements like these is why the left will win in the end.

>most medieval wars were fought by peasants wearing thick cloth and using farm equipment to beat each other instead of being dressed in chainmail or plat armour

Yeah, but, they were just dragged along. Wars were run by nobility.

>most the great wall of chino is just a bunch of dirt shaped into a wall that isn't very tall

Still very impressive, especially the mismatched steps inside to confuse and kill invaders with malicious architecture.

>neaderthals we're actually super strong savages but basically just humans with a slightly different skeleton

Possibly smarter too. We just don't know, but there signs of it.

>humans mostly hunted by just chasing an animal until it exhausted itself

No, projectile tools are broken.

>the cowboy era only lasted about 30 years

Thank god.

>colonial era pirates resembled your average colonial European in attire and accent

No? If they had a letter of marquis maybe.
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Is science actually just a scam? Scientists seem to always change their minds.
>guys, we were wrong!
>but we swear we're right THIS time!
Just the amount of times they redefined global warming and came up with a new term to replace the previous one is weird. How are we supposed to trust what they say if they seem to have no idea what they're doing?
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>>740401954
>Make something up
>Ignore all contradicting evidence
>"See? I'm right."
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>>740399064
>>740399145
>the jews made me stub my toe
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>>740401954
well, yeah. they're the state's priest class, and since the state consists of liars and thieves
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honestly the OP deserves the shit thread for his low effort dogshit bait
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>>740401775
Call me basic but I've always been a raptor boi.
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>>740402169
I'm all about the big boys. Imagine having this huge fucking behemoth possibly just eating leaves from a tree. You could hug its leg and not wrap your arms around it.
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T-rex with feathers has not been seriously considered since 2017 when they found a shit ton of scales on it's neck and back
Is OP a fat, balding brazilian tranny?
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Anti-intellectualism is going to fuck up everything in the next few decades. It already is
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>>740402281
Stupid people are gonna stupid. Not much we can do about that except maybe stop giving them rights & attention.
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>>740402281
HAHA LOOK AT THIS NERD
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>>740399247
Nigga sitting there and observing didn't stop the so-called intellectuals of Copernicus' time from insisting that the sun revolved around the Earth.
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>>740401587
>ugh why wasn't le history like my cartoons
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>>740402430
There were no intellectuals prior to the invention of the scientific method in the 18th-19th century.
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>>740399796
why did azala build the tyrano doghouse like that? it could slip and fall off the castle
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>>740402592
You can tell a leftist made this meme from the upper part alone
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>>740402601
Oh the 18th and 19th century you say?
Well la dee da. The genius doctors of that time thought that you don't need to sterilize your surgical instruments.
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>>740402682
It's more of a dragon, so it can fly.
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>>740402718
Wouldn't have helped, since everything was so incredibly filthy back then. The scientific method revolutionized human society from the ground up, which is why we now have soap.
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>>740402601
Buddy, the geniuses of that time legitimately thought that everything you are as a person could be determined by how lumpy your noggin is.
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>>740402951
And the scientific method once applied proved them wrong, which is why phrenology died instead of becoming a religion that people pretend is correct 2000 years later.
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>>740403014
Like how Copernicus proved the orbit of the Earth around the sun right.
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>>740402281
trusting soience that makes shit up and skips the scientific method to push an agenda is the definition of anti-intellectual, pseud. covid was a mask off moment for that whole establishment
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>>740402054
>I made a big mistake once
>but I totally didn't do it THIS time
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>>740398796
jurassic park generally only cared about making it look cool. and we still think of dinosaurs based of jurassic park. like actual velociraptors are tiny dinosaurs compared to the ones in jurassic park, but the name velociraptor just sounded too good not to make them big cunning raptors to fear.
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>>740398568
Dragons are obviously dinosaurs. It makes sense not all dinosaurs to have died from the meteor strike. So there probably were some dinos hiding in caves or valleys and some dude encountering them and running back telling the tale of what they looked like (plus breathing fire because they got roared with their hot breath). So descriptions of dragons is the best approximation of how dinosaurs looked like that we have yet. It's also curious how every culture has depictions of dragons or giant serpents. They were different dinosaurs.
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>>740403090
Didn't he have to recant, or was that Gallileo? Guys like Charles Darwin's firs theory of evolution was the most accurate, and then the church was like "dude wtf" and he willingly changed it up to include more talk of god and inaccuracies, until it got to the point where he was just spouting the same nonsense as everyone else. So he abandoned the scientific method and became more wrong over time.
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>>740401954
No, anon.
Science is the ongoing crusade with the belief that what you know now is wrong, and you need to rationally prove how it's wrong.
That's why you have things like clinical trials for diseases and illnesses, to disprove that your only options are the long held belief of either established treatment x or just rolling over to die.
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>>740403218
It's important to know that people prior to Jurassic Park knew dinosaurs weren't actually like that. But the movie, which is a perfect movie, was so good that nobody really bothered correcting them at the time.
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>>740399471
Thankfully the whole world isn't the us
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>researchers for a gorillion billion years:
>"lmao those huge bones look like bird bones innit imagine if they could fly and breathe fire and shit brickhouses"
>researchers after On the Origin of Species became hip and trendy:
>"hey uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh where does the big dino bones fit in the tree of life?"
>100 years later
>"lmoa wtf birds are too out there to fit the tree too- Oh hey remember the fire breathing fuck off monsters? Their skull look awfully familiar"
>The world for at least 100 years:
>"lizard chicken LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>some bumfuck that lives in their mother's basement
>"feathers bad"
>proceeds to crusade against the entire world over fucking feathers for years
Spielberg got shat on for villainizing sharks justifiably, but dinosaurs clearly always had 2 sides: big chicken and horror monster. this endlessly reposted mod ad clout thread is the BIG pointless. just post dino cloacas and move on.
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>>740402718
The ancient egyptians 3000 years ago knew that if you rubbed moldy bread on wounds, less infections would happen. It would take us 2900 years to rediscover that fact.
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>>740398568
>He doesn't know dinosaurs are a jewish cashgrab
Ermm.....
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>>740403393
yeah because chemo and pharmaceutical companies in general are exclusive to the US. LOL!
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>>740403472
Blame the brits. We could have probably learned of this ages ago from thorough study of their mummies if only rich british people didn't make with the mummy jerky.
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>>740402281
Because people are more questioning than ever when it comes to science? Maybe try hiding your nose when you post next time.
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>>740398568
>dinosaur thread
>the nanosecond an anti-intellectual shitface starts posting a truckload of conspiracy theories start being spammed and thread IQ plummets
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When a single company or government admits to multiple fuck-ups, people immediately lose their trust in it, but when an entire field of human activity does the same thing, it's somehow le hecking good.
Interesting.
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>>740403595
It's too much. Not a single paper is released today without dozens of highly intelligent people (rightfully) questioning the methodology and tossing out the results.
At the point where you notice that, you realize that only the stuff you know is the stuff you know.
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>>740403595
>Because people are more questioning than ever when it comes to science?
More like science became vibes based rather than an accepted truth based on the current information on hand. If the scientific shit doesn't sound like something you like, you just discard it as bad made up shit. If it's scientific shit that does sound like what floats your boat, then all of a sudden you spout out the ever so increasingly popular phrase of "just trust the science, bro".
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>>740403742
disingenuous retard
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>>740403742
Apples and oranges.
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if science is so flawed why have we achieve so much as a human species?
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>>740398568
>Uhhh does this mean every dino game we’ve been playing is scientifically wrong?
No as much as faggots would have you believe.
>>5127171
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>>740403375
Actually the film was remarkably accurate to the current paleonthology. Using the name Velociraptor instead of something more fitting was one deliberate diversion, theropod arms was another(they can really keep their arms front side palms down without breaking some bones).
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>>740403742
Lmfao you're such a massive fucking retard
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Did you ever realized that anti-feather fags are to paleontology what women who like astronomy are to astrology?
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>>740404030
God has guided us and provided insights needed to advance as a civilization
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>>740403275
dragons unironically originate from the big predator fear humans face, mostly snake. they're abstract from day zero.
notice how their name comes from serpent and how they share a lot of feline features usually in myths. The scales are serpentine as well as the fuck huge tails and the variable number of limbs from wyrm to wyvern.
>forked tail
>big demon head
>bat wings
>lion limbs

meanwhile dinosaurs are grazing mofos like the brontosaur or theropod predators.
how much representation is there of theropod dragons or grazing dragons?
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>>740404030
Reptilian infulence
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>>740403797
any examples?
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>>740404160
I like how they call these Dog Wyverns, just because they howl and hunt in a pack. Where's our Cat Wyvern?
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>>740404080
>>>/an/5127171
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>>740404198
>conspiratard
>can't even spell
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>>740401587
i'm fine with the painted statues, it's something that we never stopped doing as a culture.
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>>740404160
Nah. Dragon legends started with people killing unusually big monitor lizards, the rest is broken telephone game.
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>>740404249
well, given that this was the most popular one for a while, mRNA vaccination vs ivermectin injection to deal with COVID.
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>>740404286
Infulence is the original spelling.
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>>740403218
Deinonychus would still fuck you up.
Imagine a pack of carnivorous cassowaries chasing you down.
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>>740404335
>Dragon legends started with people killing unusually big monitor lizards
How does that explain the discernably different characteristics of western and eastern dragons?
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>>740403218
the park dinos were spliced with frog dna to fill in gaps in the dino dna. the unexamined oversights of doing that are what caused the events in the story and why the dinos are lizards instead of birds like the kid in the movie notices. jurassic park is a rare 10/10 movie.
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>>740401954
The Scientific method is real, but scientists are humans with their agendas and beliefs, for example the scientific community as a whole greatly exageratted the effects of nuclear weapons because they didn't want to see them used anymore.
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every dinosaur is made up, they find one finger bone and then just come up with a random skeleton
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>>740401156
>>740401775
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>>740404335
Dragon myth was always all over the place, though I can see wyvern myths spawning from komodo dragons and their fuck off deadly poisonous bites.
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>>740404365
mRNA is a gene therapy, not vaccination, and it's proven to have caused a myriad of issues. ivermectin is antiparasitic and proven to work for that goal. to use it to treat the flu is questionable, but first I've heard of it being used as an injection other than for cattle
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>>740398568
>reddit manchildren getting mad over fantasy animals
lmao
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>>740404451
it's odder that in western lore we gave them wings, which probably stems from our general motif of demonic beings having bat wings. when chinks found dino fossils which they called dragon bones, before they grinded them up into medicine because they thought it gives you stronger boners or some shit, they noted that they didn't have wings.
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>>740403551
No
Becquse chemo and pharmaceutical companies don't replace the government here
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>>740404974
I'm inclined to think they just saw shadows of big ass bats like picrel and that's what cemented the thought in their minds.
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>>740404974
>before they grinded them up into medicine because they thought it gives you stronger boners or some shit, they noted that they didn't have wings.

Aw man. If it helped them grow wings I'd want some bonedust too.
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>>740404524
Also modern pop-science is often misleading, exaggerating and over-simplifying new findings/developments/discoveries for attention and sensationalism. This often leads to investors funding outlandish projects that sound 'sci-fi' and 'badass', instead of more important yet 'boring' projects.
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>>740399006
Spinosaurus is still cool, got a massive upgrade recently when fossils were found indicating it was much bigger than the T. Rex. It's also considered to have been bipedal again. It's the closest dinosaur there is to being awesome again in the modern day, new findings just make it cooler unlike the rest.
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>>740401492
Reminds me of something else that's big and black
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>>740404524
Based. People need to realize that facts and truths are wasted because humans are not wired like that.
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>>740404263
Bro?
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>>740405002
if you think lobbying is unique to the US I have a bridge to sell you
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>>740405107
if i saw that i'd think it was some sort of hellspawn too
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>>740405295
Among first worlders it's uniquely rampant after that Citizens United case a decade and a half back, where the Supreme Court really let down their people.
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>>740405156
Spinochads have had to endure humiliation ritual after humiliation ritual for a decade plus now, can't express how good it feels to be back on top while every other dinosaur gets mogged
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>>740405156
>>740405434
Didn't they blow up the best preserved Spinosaurus fossil during WW2 or something?
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>>740405295
I didn't say it's unique, just that it is nowhere near as prevalent
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>>740398568
Yes, because dinos have never existed.
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>>740405117
it's funny that when europe went to shanghai in the 1700s they saw pharmacists selling dinosaur fossils to cure everything from diarrhea to getting raped by dream demons. rural chinks still do this by the way. the chinese government regulates this by only giving them fossils that they deem to not have much value.
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>>740405418
unfortunately really old people keep being put into positions of power and really old people like really old principles
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>>740405494
They've found some new stuff lately that gives it a huge size upscale among other things. They found an almost complete head that also gives some species a big ass horn.
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>>740398568
tldr for the entire debate: its because we only have the bones so well never know what they truely looked like but ("("(scientists)")") will try and tell you the dinosaurs bigger than elephants living in the hot ass Mesozoic dat dey was giant fluffy chickens in shiet
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>>740401387
For the last couple decades, it has been genuinely impossible to publish a book as a straight Aryan male. You are blacklisted from every single publisher for bring one.
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>>740405624
it definitely is just as prevalent. I've yet to see anything suggesting otherwise, but if you have something, do share
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>>740405756
this is such an absolute and utter brainlet take from an artist with a room temperature IQ (metric)

nobody shrinkwraps animals like that, muscle attachment points are a core part of reconstructions
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>>740405863
Creating a Corpo-ocracy is progressive, I suppose.

>>740405950
Interesting, got a link for me to read more about this?
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>>740405756
A hairless Baboon literally looks almost exactly like that without the stripes.
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>>740405951 me
the funniest part about this is that image only applies to mammals btw
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>>740405418
that decision's ramifications got out of hand quickly.
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>>740406104
it is mildly freaky to realize just how human-like their face becomes if you imagine squishing their mouth and nose upwards

like you can just pretty easily mentally morph it into a human face without that much imagination
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the whole debate gets even fucking dumber because feathers show up in the fossil anyways
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>>740401954
>Is science actually just a scam?
Yes. The Harvard sociology bitch cheated her studies like a 5 year old, for 8 YEARS, and she was not exposed by le peer-review meme from redditards, she was exposed because some boomer colleagues decided to check out her work one day randomly to pass the time, she could have went on literally forever with no issues if she wasn't unlucky.

You can lie in your statistics by putting in non-sensical answers, in the most prestigious university of the western world, and nobody will look into it for a decade. "Science" is just neo-marxism, as long as you push neo-marxist bullshit, nobody will bother you. If you put out undeniable empiric data that contradicts their religious beliefs, then the marxists will blacklist you from everything like they did to James Watson.
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>>740406305
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>>740406305
not just fossils, we have dinosaur feathers preserved in amber
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>>740406130
Fossils just do a shit job at representing soft tissues for obvious reasons, which mammals have a lot of but birds and reptiles do not.
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>>740405156
I'll never forgive the director for having this twink feather looking fuck fodderize the Chad Rex in Jurassic Park.
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>>740406371
get mogged, rexfag
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>>740398568
I stopped trusting the science when scientists made dinosaurs gay chickens.
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>>740406305
it's almost like paleo trusts these concepts precisely because they have eons of experience to show and a lot of bird bones to compare with.
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>>740406316
what was the name of that mock paper again where the author threw a bunch of pokemon characters in there instead of actual citations that passed every peer review process
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like you give a suit about realism in your games
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>>740398568
>likely
>possible
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>>740398568
Who cares, lizard Dinos are cool as fuck.
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>>740406367
we're pretty good at reconstructing soft tissue in mammals these days, muscle attachment points are an obvious one but we're even pretty good at estimating fatty tissue buildup based on bones
and course working backwards from existing mammals is also a pretty good idea in general

mammals aren't the biggest issue to reconstruct, the biggest bitch to reconstruct is cephalopods because those things are entirely soft tissue and we genuinely do want a good reconstruction of them because of how prominent they were
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Mind you there was 0 of any fossil remains for feathers found.
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>>740405951
Also the bones are all fake and gay. "Bones" are found exclusively by museum-aligned parties who somehow always find 50 different skeletons every time they go one afternoon dig a pit in the desert. "Bones" have been easily replicated by the Chinese for many decades (remember Archaeopteryx) and are so easy to fake there are literal children books on how to do it. The entire mythology of dinos rests on the foundational myth known as the Bone Wars, of which 75% of the discoveries are officially admitted fakes today. All of it is a retarded scam for anyone who investigates in the slightest. It's SCP wiki tier bullshit based on modifying existing reptiles and birds into fantasy creatures.

>>740406429
No idea, sounds interesting though. Every retard believes peer-review is about data or methodology, when the only thing it does is check you used the right font.
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>>740406526
all that tirade and what not and he's not even aware that archaeopteryx isn't even chinese
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>>740403742
Yeah, you can dismantle every single example of le ancient human wewuzniggerapes instance and they still believe in their nebraska man, piltdown man, Lucy, fake embryo drawings and all that shit. It's a religion.
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>nooooooooo dinosaurs are not birds! they're supposed to be terrifying and evil!
>because... because... because... you see! wallmart sells chicken breasts!
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>>740405756
this was the all tomorrows guy right? sad to call him a retard here but he kinda is one because featherless birds literally look like that
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>>740406878
that's a man
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>>740406945
fuck off and go crawl back in your barrel
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>>740406526
I also forgot to mention: you will never examine the bones. To examine the bones, you have to be in the dino sect, if you don't believe in the dino myth, you will never be allowed to examine them. You will never even be able to look at them, they are "kept safe" in always locked rooms in museums, so you have to trust Scientology-tier cult members on how other members of the cult are totally scientific in their religious beliefs. And the museums constantly present fake shit as "real bones", when the real bones are in a locked room you'll never enter, and they're not real in the first place.
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>>740406878
I like how dinosaurs evolved flight which gave them such a massive boost to survivability that they all developed hyper-specific mating rituals for procreation to now weed out the unworthy.
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>>740406832
I'll never understand people who think that dinosaurs like raptors having plumage makes them gay or not scary. A fast, man-sized predator that looks like this but with sharp teeth and claws would be scary as fucking shit
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>>740407050
People claim they can beat bears in a fistfight, people are fucking stupid. Not one person could even beat a badger.
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>>740399006
>and also they look more retarded because fuck you
I wonder why people take artistic interpretations that are basically strawmen as absolute reality?
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>>740398568
I don't care, how about that? I've fought Skaarj, Sangheili, Primagen, demons, zombies/viral carriers, a fat guy Russian with a sandwich, gangsters, mutants, furries, leprechauns, fae, astral beings, magic casters, and all kinds of other crazy shit imagined by the geekiest mother fuckers of the late 20th and early 21st century based on the writings of dead men past. What the fuck would I care about how a dinosaur looked or operated as long as it was something I could interact with in a way that results in it either spilling out its guts or eating people or shooting guns or some other shit I'm not considering? OP, your thread fucking sucks. Shut the fuck up, you're an asshole.
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>>740407050
the funniest thing is people going "but they were just big chickens"

I've seen roosters try to murder each other, a man sized rooster would absolutely fuck me up
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>>740399006
There is no "cool factor" when it comes down to evolution. It's all about survivability and fulfilling an ecological niche. And no, t-rex's never made mammalian like roars either.
And why do people get angry over the mere debate if indeed a t-rex had feathers? Have you ever seen chickens viciously hunt down and rip apart mice before? Now imagine that on a much larger scale.
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>>740407143
if im fighting the badger on a hard surface and i have my shoes on i feel like i could win that pretty easy
obviously dying to the bear its a fucking bear
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>>740407237
A rooster can blind you, cut an artery, break your bones at the joint, give you an infection, and deafen you before breakfast. Do not fuck with a rooster.
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>very famous person who died 100+ yeas ago was actually black
>dinos were actually....
na
stop believing bullshit retard
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>>740407237
Any of those people would shit their fucking pants if they were being chased down by a real life "big chicken"
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>>740407278
Dude a badger will bite your leg off and hit you over the head with it. Badgers fight bears on the regular.
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>>740407278
badgers have crazy fast reflexes and like all mustelids show neither pain nor fear when fighting
if you got a lucky kick in yeh sure, but if that badger managed to evade that first kick and climb onto you, you're in a world of pain

you'd still win probably, but more than likely you're getting serious injuries in the process and you might lose your balls because yes, they will go for your balls
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>>740407004
You also forgot to mention that your mither dropped you on your head upon birth. But i think we all came to that conclusion with your schizo ramblings.
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>>740407262
>And no, t-rex's never made mammalian like roars either.
The sound a T. Rex made would have been vastly worse than a roar, their rumbles would be straight into infrasound, you'd feel your bones shake and get that sickening feeling in your stomach triggering a very primal fear in that rodent part of your brain (3 guesses as to where that fear of infrasound came from)

and course the scariest thing a predator can do when it sees you is to not make a single sound and just start running towards you at an even pace, preserving it's energy
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>>740407653
never said id come out unscathed
i was gonna try and either stomp its head or grab it by a back leg and swing it around in a circle fast enough to where it cant reach back and bash its head on a tree
they only weigh 15-25 pounds so i feel like thats at least possible
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>>740405950
>>740405494
there are chances the WW2 specimen and the modern ones aren't the same species
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>>740407478
quick reminder:
>3 ft tall, 7 ft wingspan
>4 inch talons
>Grip strength two times stronger than a pitbull bite
This thing is a goddamned monster
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>>740407809
And cushioned feet pads, so it's footsteps aren't going to be heard.
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>>740407963
the problem is that both of those rely on you being faster than a badger, which you are not
also they're still mustelids anon, you grab one by the back leg and it twists itself around and bites your wrist hard enough to break it
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>>740406493
>cephalopods
This must be the latest (((discovery))) that Kikes keep "finding" since i never heard of it.
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>>740408065
not to mention that it had better vision than an eagle, you watch a T. Rex through a pair of binoculars and it would genuinely do that movie villain thing where it just looks back at you knowing you were there

and then possibly just vanish behind some trees and now you're dealing with a T. Rex that knows you're here and has somehow managed to make you lose sight of it
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>>740398796
They also mention several times that they genetically modified dinosaurs to attract potential customers, not be historically accurate. And giant lizards are infinitely cooler than featherfags.
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featherniggers are either too brown or spent too much time in feminist tumblr to understand that it bothers people due to accuracy reasons and not whether its scary or cool looking
they are projecting their nature is metal retardation onto you
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>>740407525
Are we talking about the same fucking animal here? Badgers? They are tiny. They are around the size of big cat. How the fuck are you going to lose a figt to that? I mean, if were were talking about wolverines or shit like that I'd understand but fucking badgers?
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>>740408136
You're such a retard that you apparently don't even know what an octopus is, so if you're the alternative I'll take the scientists
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>>740408213
but why tho. that's like engineering hairless cats, which are disgusting.
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>>740408136
chad as fuck post
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>>740408302
badgers have a bite force that exceeds a wolverine anon
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>>740408451
Giant lizards > giant chickens
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>>740408451
as it turns out, the park didn't work out.
multiple fucking times.
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>>740408527
I still believe that's the dumbest plot line ever
Like fuck are people getting "bored of dinosaurs"
Zoos get tons of visitors every year and those don't have DINOSAURS, every single year there'd be yet another generation of kids of the right age where dinosaurs are the coolest thing ever and they'd absolutely want to visit the dinosaur park
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>>740408509
What good is biting going to do to it when you can literally just fucking stomp it's head? You tower over it. A good fucking kick is gonna send that fat monochrome weasel flying.
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>>740408527
imagine fucking up a big electric fence three sperate times
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>>740408636
and later they decide to make a dinosaur x-man for publicity
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>>740399006
theres no way the top right would be fast enough to chase prey
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>>740408594
While I think Jurassic Park would make money perpetually, I also think that dinosaurs would lose some of their cool factor if they were alive.
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>>740408614
again, it's a mustelid, their reflexes are fast enough they can reliably hunt snakes

you are not faster than a badger
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>>740408769
That's ok because gay scientists say the t-rex was a scavenger.
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>>740408851
Nigga look at it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSi1R3IAXok
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>>740408835
oh sure they would lose some cool
but kids still go "wooow a bear" and ask their dads to pick them up so they can see the bear better
T. Rex would be like that x20 even if the initial hype died off
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the worst shit is we most likely only discovered like only 30% of dinos species and most likely will never discover all of them
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>>740408929
every carnivore is a scavenger
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>>740408980
And we can't fuck them either.
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>>740408980
depends on how small dinosaurs could get, if they all got outcompeted at small niches by mammals then 30% is a good estimate
if not then it's more like we only know 1% of dinosaurs at best
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>>740408851
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>>740408993
No
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>>740409139
Lynxes hunt elks
look up the size of a lynx and the size of an elk
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>subtle foreshadowing
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>>740407478
even american turkeys are death incarnate if you find one on a bad day
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>>740409261
Lynx is a cat that hunts elk by pouncing on their backs from trees etc and biting trough their neck arteries/crushing their spine.

A badger can't even fucking climb.
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>>740409262
Boy am I glad mass-extinction events only happen to other species.
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>>740398568
They probably sounded like crocodiles.
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>>740406414
Clearly compensating for something with that spinefeather.
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>>740399006
Spinofaarus is a different species from Spinosaurus, retard.
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>>740407050
You are based for posting my favorite bird.
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>>740398568
>>740398653
Indeed, because it's now proven they had filaments and not true feathers if they DID have them. Because most dinos did not, only the ones most directly connected to birds in the late cretaceous.
Early triassic dinos absolutely did not have feathers. There's 200 million years there, 3 geologic periods (Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous) and not all are related to birds. Only late cretaceous Theropods.

Even then, birds TODAY often have no feathers when they get large, the obvious ones being Cassowaries with their necks. That is a fucking dinosaur with a beak in my opinion. Already terrifying with it's massive claws, give it teeth and it is monstrous. Honestly I find birds with teeth more terrifying than mere walking crocodiles. Terror birds were a thing too and are pretty awesome. Look at this shit. T-rex meets eagle (eagles are a RAPTOR btw).
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>>740409845
>terror bird
Fake and AI, (((they))) came up with these to sell more Final Fantasy games.
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>>740409845
it would be kinda cute if baby T. Rex had soft downy feathers they gradually lost as they got bigger
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>>740408213
This should have been the focus of the reboot, to make JP more meta commentary on itself as a franchise. That could have been cool.
But no, lovers of the original (fucking overrated, I preferred 2 and 3) would get upset. I don't think it's even close to Spielberg's best and always preferred 2 as a kid (which I watched the FUCK out of as a kid because the dinos seemed scarier and cooler).
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>>740408268
Cassowaries are so cool.

Swans are surprisingly terrifying too. You can see their inner dinosaur when you get too close. They sound like a velociraptor/cobra. Makes them kinda cool for a lame looking dandy duck.
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>>740409998
2 has some great moments, but fuck me if the 12 year old beating raptors with the power of gymnastics wasn't the dumbest thing ever

same with that one parody of a wildlife activist who steals the bullets out of a gun while they're actively being pursued by a T. Rex like holy fuck that guy deserved to get eaten
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>>740410113
swans also can slap their wings hard enough to break your bones
true you can also just grab one by the neck and swing it around if it gets uppity but they're not just purely for show
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>>740409998
>This should have been the focus of the reboot, to make JP more meta commentary on itself as a franchise
They actually did do that though, see also: Indominus.
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>>740410113
Swans and geese are very aggressive for birds of their size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81ptFSA4mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufB0ycWeg3M
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>>740409262
Aren't those related to mammals? Synapsids?
>mammal-like reptiles

What in the "man-after-man" are these things?
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>>740410374
>SUBTLE
>FORESHADOWING
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>>740410305
Apparently their neck is the best thing to use for wiping your butt. Why someone discovered that is beyond me.

...
poor birb.
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why did he do it?
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>>740410337
there is only room for pure hate and pure love in their tiny brains, nothing else, no fear, no regret

May god help you if you threaten their partner or chicks
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>>740410325
Well this is too different and stupid.
I meant very very minor changes to the aesthetic of the dino.
Not dino-after-man sort of abominations. Those are a different sort of interesting (though this one looks dumb as fuck with the vestigial forearms AND actual forearms - fucking why?).
At that point it just becomes xenomorphs though.
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>>740408980
Probably less.
If you look at a modern map of locations where fossils are likely to form, and then compare that to where animals are actually the most common, the majority of biological diversity is going to be lost simply because the animals don't live in a location where they are likely to be fossilized.

Think about some future species or alien group doing fossil excavation on Earth and never knowing that bison and chimps exist today because they just didn't fossilize.
Then apply that same logic to the era of the dinosaurs.
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>>740410657
they did have miniature dinos in JW1 in a petting zoo
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>>740399460
True evil doesn't need to have sensible motivations.
It just needs to make everything it touches worse.
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>>740410374
mammals are synapsids
not all synapsids are mammals
synapsids and diapsids are the cousin groups
there's a funny micro head synapsid herbivore
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>>740399145
anon don't look up steven spielberg's early life...
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>>740409845
It is largely believed today that the ancestor of all archosaurs (dinosaurs, crocodiles, pterosaurs) had filament feathers and was warm blooded.
Triassic dinosaurs were likely warm blooded and feathered in thin filaments, and only lost those feathers as they grew in size and in some cases became more ectothermic.
Crocodiles probably evolved to become ectothermic and featherless.
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>that time when 95% of vertebrates on the planet were this thing
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>>740399006
Some dinosaurs or pieces of dinosaurs have been found nearly perfectly preserved in amber and other similar material. Many had chicken skin/reptile-LIKE skin, some had feathers, some didn't. But they're also not going to look 1:1 like reptiles because they're more related to birds than reptiles.
Also the images on the right are retarded and if "real" shitty speculation on the part of retarded researchers.
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>>740409791
based bearded vulture bro
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>>740406135
Took just 6 years from Citizens United to an actual billionaire buying the Presidency.
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>>740401707
> Sex drive satisfied with fantastical porn
> Fewer reasons to interact with the opposite sex
> First world birth rates drop
I mean, you're joking, but this is unironically part of their mission statement.
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>>740410687
there is really a shit ton of factors that can impact the preservation of extinct and fossil species up to this day it's frightening.
entire families, groups of species lost to time. a ridiculous amount of life on earth we will never get to know of.
we will never catch them all, lads...
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>>740410946
dinosaur evolution is neat
like how hadrosaurs went from bipedal to quadrupedal constantly so by the the late cretaceous their joints were all kinds of fucked up
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>>740400063
Low IQ nibbas just make shit up and state it as fact
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>>740398568
trusting "scientists" that have been winging it since the 50s or summin and always find out they were wrong later on
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>>740410657
The concept is the same: Jurassic Park (the in-universe entity) wants to make bigger and cooler monsters for its audience (parkgoers) so it makes Indominus Rex and Distortus Rex. Jurassic Park (the film seres) wants to make bigger and cooler monsters for its audience (moviegoers) so it makes Indominus Rex and Distortus Rex. They did this in JP3 (spinosaurus, pterosaurs), possibly without realizing it.
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>>740398568
>NOOOOO MY FAVORITE MOVIES DIRECTED BY (((SPIELBERG))) AREN'T ACCURATE, I'M GOING INSANE! SAVE ME KIKEMAN!
behead all JPniggers
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>>740410516
he wanted change. look what happened to him.
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>>740411182
kek
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>>740398568
we need more characters with dinosaur autism in vidya games
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>>740411182
Look what happened indeed.
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>>740411080
we just recently discovered there may have been an octopus larger than a frigging mosasaurus
we only have it's beak and we only discovered that by chance

imagine if that thing doesn't get sized down, the largest predator of the Cretaceous and we didn't even know it existed up until this year, and even then we have no idea what it looked like exactly because all we have is it's beak
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>>740401156
>Every single thread about [subject] has the same fucking retarded discussion about muh ["controversial" topic] etc.
Agreed, it's exhausting to come here anymore
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>>740410442
>subtle
maybe to the skitzophrenic

Skin?
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>>740411182
>that one faggot that always picks the same character
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>>740410687
>>740408980

This.
The most biodiverse areas of earth are in the tropics, environments like jungles etc which are notoriously fucking TERRIBLE for fossil formation. It is very likely that we have only uncovereed like a few percent at most of all dinosaur species that existed given how warm and wet the mesozoic period in general was and how dominant tropical environment were across the world.
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>>740410946
i honestly call bullshit to that, there's no way integument like that can just grow or disappear like that across a wide range of animals and families. for fuck's sake we don't even have proof of synapsids or even cynognathans having hair.
only proof of that is that paper saying crocs have potential genes for feathers, and it sounds grossly misinterpreted to me
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>>740410516
good question
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>>740407186
Because shitposting is fun
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>>740411290
What if it was just a small octopus with a really big beak? Ever think about that!?
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>>740411512
he cute
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>>740398568
>$currentyear "scientists"
None of these people would've gotten a degree 50 years ago.
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>>740411361
Anon, those are our ancestors :)
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>>740411554
that was literally the first thing they looked after and ruled out, which is neat
second thing they looked at was if it ate big or small things, and the wear pattern on the beak says "big"
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>>740411606
>That one "paleontologist" who is a literal whore
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>>740410687
Wrong, the triassic and jurassic were 1 supercontinent, pangeae, so it was the only time in history where were likely to get a snapshot of all the terrestrial lifeforms in one location. On top of this, from memory the environment was very homogenous compared to now, very volcanic, hence why we get the same species in places that were opposite sides of the globe at the time.
You have this problem more after the cretaceous where these forms of environments were less common and not near universal (at least every now and then all over the globe) like it was back then. The world right now is more diverse in climate than it's arguably ever been and nothing like back then. You would probably struggle to breathe back then. (in fact, with current rising CO2 levels, we're already likely having issues now with higher densities of CO2 in the atmosphere). I don't think we'd suffocate, but we would likely struggle.
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>>740411290
the first specimens were discovered in japan too
imagine the faces of the gooks that discovered it
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>>740398568
Yes and I want my money back!
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>>740399145
>a jew conspiracy to make dinosaurs feminized
By making more young boys like more dinos than ever before?
Wow what great conspiracy.

>Jaws also did not get me into sharks apparently
I bet you disliked indiana jones, then.
Schindler's I'll agree is a bit overrated. But he made up for it with Saving Private Ryan. Without that we wouldn't have the Clint Eastwood war films (which were even better).
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>>740400063
True, the big bones are actually the giants in the bible.
... I'm not even kidding, they likely influenced the myth because the same myth is global in most cultures. They all saw bones at some point and thought about what they were. Some said giant people (though they also might have found ancient giant apes too in the process, remember they considered Gorillas as rough hairy human beings in antiquity, not like now), some said giant dragons and lions (obviously they found better fossils).
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>>740399338
Serious discussion troons btfo
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>>740412337
now imagine how many perfectly preserved fossils were found and ground up into traditional medicine
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>>740412042
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>>740398568
Dinosaurs never existed, but dragons did.
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>>740400707
birbs are hot
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>>740398568
Out of character here but I have questions about what sort of person put the bottom left image in a news article.
We know who you are.
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>>740411945
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>>740412428
Dinosaurs did exist, they were made by God to dispose of the sick, old and dying animals in the Garden of Eden, but the fall of man coincided with the fall of animals, and the dinosaurs became the ancestors of the dragons.
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>>740406365
You don't even need them.
Birds are literally dinosaurs. Theropods.

Maybe elsewhere on the planet birds are just dopey and stupid to people, but in Australia they will attack you very often and are quite terrifying. We also have emus and cassowaries along with giant raptors and owls. The worst are magpies though. Those things are vicious and have harmed many people. Like Needlefish/long-toms.
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>>740412518
No, they didn't. They didn't even get a definition until like the 60s.
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>>740412337
eh, the giants were described to be like 9-10ft in the Bible. Behemoth's description in the Book of Job does sound like a sauropod though
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>>740412474
It's so weird how bunched the continents were just in this specific period of geology and maybe a few others before the cambrian explosion.
>Pannotia is skeptical post-cambrian
>Rodinia was the last one before Pangaea
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>>740404080
This, dumb people overestimate the feather thing. Elephants don't have much for because of their high mass and environment. And that's a similar environment to where T-Rex lived and it had an even higher mas. That means feathers were useless to it. Small dinos eye definitely feathered, but not behemoths like T-Rex. Maybe it had stray feathers near tail, arms and head for display, but over 90% of its body would be scaled
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>>740412934
And it's just about 250 million years until they all merge into another supercontinent.
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>>740412704
Keep seething, sciencelet. These were real, and they were Adam's friends before he bit the apple.
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>>740412636
It is ironic that western dragons resembled how we see many dinos today and people are "unimpressed". To me that's dope as fuck.

Easterners don't care though, their dragons still exist.
Australians ignored what really ate her baby.
>these motherfuckers are HUGE
I cannot believe I camped in an area with these around in the NW.
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>>740403275
Nah people were finding dino bones since antiquity. "Dragons' were then imported along the silk road and Buddhist monks in the pre-islamic middle east. The mythical animal was conflated with the bones and then tales and narratives produced what we know as dragons and wyverns.
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>>740400363
That's not moe
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>>740413136
Cope
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>>740413306
No, Buckland.
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>>740412847
Mate, most of the old testament are just a compilation of older word of mouth and written myths of the jews pre-babylonian enslavement. It's amazing it exists at all. I don't get why abrahamics cannot appreciate it as a work of history compiling old myths like that. To me, they and the gilgamesh records are dope.
Everything after is kinda boring and more literal or an obvious allegory.
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>>740413201
Beautiful lizard. I wish that monitor lizards were more sociable and could be trained. They would make for cool as fuck pets.
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>live in a country with monitors, crocodiles, giant snakes, frill necked lizards, emus and cassowaries
>never occurred to me that people in other places globally don't see dinos as just an ancient archaic version of these EXISTING creatures in my homeland

I'm starting to see why Australians see dinos so differently now. We still have them. kek
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>>740413136
Women ruin everything.
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>>740411383
The reasoning is that both pterosaurs and dinosaurs share these filament type feathers. And it would be pretty unlikely for that structure to arise independently twice. You could argue that crocodiles split off early and then the archosaur ancestor of pterosaurs and dinosaurs developed its filament feathers, but the first dinosaur would still have likely had those filaments on account of being very small.
Crocodiles appear to have traits that were likely related to endothermy in the distant past (and potentially in land-dwelling crocodilians in the recent past).
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>>740411945
Across Eurasia, you have huge diversity that wouldn't be captured in modern fossil beds. I don't see how Pangaea would change that?
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>>740398568
We have fossilized skin imprint of the t-rex, plus there is no evidence of dinosaurs having feathers and scales at the same time.
They found some kind of spiky quills, and dinosaurs living in cold biomes had feathers like Yutyrannus, but in general if you dinosaur depiction with patches of feathers over the body and also with scales, they are always wrong.
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>>740405951
Shut your bitch ass up
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>>740398568
i am so tired of this fake ass revisionism bullshit
>alligators had feathers
>rhinos had feathers
>elephants had feathers
>lizards had feathers
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why does /v/ hate feathers so much?
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>>740413941
We have fossilized skin of wooly mammoths too, and none of them show signs of wool.
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>>740414083
Nobody has suggested any of those things until you did just now.
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>>740414301
they are gay-coded and represent feminine ideals and /v/ is a masculine board
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>>740413421
Apparently they can be interracted with and can form habits with people. Generally if you feed them too often they'll just hang around. There's this one remote place near Giles or something where a Perentie has "become a local" and they named it "big G".
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation%2Fat-australias-loneliest-servo-diesel-is-425litre-and-people-are-cancelling-their-trips%2Fnews-story%2Fe73a679db91a1a24ef523fe765152a40

Apparently pic was near Warroora. I've camped there. I had a dog. It could have been eaten. Terrifying.
People underestimate these things, they're not much smaller than Komodo dragons and are probably more agile too. And less isolated genetically, so probably more vicious. They do eat each other.
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>>740413941
It seems probably that large dinos in warm climates would not have had feathers, since the same pattern is seen in large mammals like elephants not having fur. Smaller creatures though lose heat more quickly, hence tropical mammals still being furry: and so little dinos like velociraptor needing covering to keep warm and active.
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>>740406305
It's almost as if there are diverging lineages. Crocodiles are the closest living relatives of the avians and they don't have feathers. Avian dinosaurs diverged from the general dinosaur lineage sometime in the Jurassic, and by the Cretaceous there were full blown feathered birds.

It wouldn't make sense for a good chunk of non-avian dinosaurs to have feathers since they were poikilothermic. We've actually found a handful of dinosaurs preserved well enough to tell us what their skin was like. We know they had some hairs some of the time, but it's unlikely most non-avian dinosaurs had actual feathers (which evolved from hairs) because they had so few of them. There certainly could be species in near the Poles where it would freeze sometimes the evolved feathers, but most dinosaurs did not have them.
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>n-n-nooooo t rex had feathers!!!
how many years has it been since the first skin imprints were found showing no sign of feathers? how many more have been found showing no feathers again?
>t-t-t rex was a ure scavenger!!!
hornertard cope, every apex predator in history has hunted and scavenged as it was convenient
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>>740413404
>Everything after the Old Testament is kinda boring
perfectly kosher take. shalom
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>>740414538
We seriously need to educate people on monitors here, they can defs snatch a baby or a dog and bolt.
I guess we just assume they're in woopwoop and are tiny. They are not, these are seen in small cities like Albany nowadays in the west apparently. Huh.
I mean, they're not BIG big, but they are "big enough to cause harm" if they can eat a kangaroo.
Explains all of the abo myths warning about kids wandering off meeting their doom. This is why.
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>>740414664
I’m not saying this is total bullshit, but it’s crazy to me that you could look at an animal that is so obviously a giant sabertooth chicken and go “ok but it having feathers makes no biological sense”. We have, living on earth right now, in modern times, giant bipedal flightless birds in warm climates. They have feathers. Ostriches are native to the savannahs of sub-saharan Africa, not arctic climates, and they’re fully feathered.
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>>740414958
>eating abos
>causing harm
pick one
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>yep, that's ol' big g, he runs bartertown here, try not to piss him off or he might retaliate
>yep, he's the local deity here too, we gift him sacrificial packets of chips daily
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>>740415136
Well, now white kids are there, and they aren't even being taught these things.
So much for being a smarter, wiser race of people.

Hell if Burke had listened to his abo guides more, he'd have lived too.
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>>740411364
Tropics are actually decent for fossil formation since they're rife with mud. That's how we had so many fossils of the coelacanth long before we found the coelacanth. We found loads of river coelacanth fossils, but now the only coelacanths left on Earth live rather deep underwater in the Indian/Southern Atlantic Oceans and use their lobed fins to crawl into underwater caves to avoid sharks and such.

We have loads of fossils from tropical or sub-tropical climates. What really doesn't preserve very well are animals that lived in mountains, deep oceans, and polar regions. Turns out that animals that get preserved in ice when they die end up re-decomposing when the ice melts, meaning anything that was entombed in ice before this last ice age has been lost to the ages. Mountains obviously do not have a lot of mud with which to trap and preserve creatures in either.
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>>740414496
This. Everyone knows that dinosaurs were constantly leaking cum from every orifice and every pore, because they were that masculine.
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>>740415350
>I am related to the covid vaccine
Terrifying.
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>>740403431
>dinosaurs clearly always had 2 sides: big chicken and horror monster
I'd be terrified if something with the disposition of a chicken could haul around several tons of muscle after seeing what they do to any small lizards they catch.
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>>740415350
>That silhouette pose
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>>740415041
Because it's simply not how evolution works. The reason humans get scurvy and need to take supplemental vitamin C when practically every other animal on the planet doesn't have that issue is because one of our ape ancestors a couple million years ago devolved the ability to naturally produce our own vitamin C, but they lived in a tropical environment filled with loads of fruits so the trait never got weeded out. It's a trait unique to our lineage, and it's unlikely to evolve in other species related to us because it's such a huge evolutionary disadvantage.

Not that feathers are a disadvantage necessarily, but evolving feathers takes a while and doesn't particularly help poikilothermic animals survive. They're unlikely to evolve on very large poikilothermic creatures that absolutely need to sunbathe to get going, but it makes sense that small and medium sized critters could evolve feathers, pass down the trait to their offspring, and then have their offspring grow larger/smaller over time.

Food for thought: platypi lay eggs.
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>>740398568

Oh boy you are in for a surprise
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For me, the favourite racist(?) Aus explorer is Giles, who, though initially violent to abos as they were (and this is quoted) "savages", became so jaded with white people over time and so familiar with abos that he bred with the abos in the end.
I guess he realised they had some wisdom on the nature of the region that white people didn't get.

That and they were probably lolis, which victorian society frowned upon.
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>>740415887
Damn, someone tell Isaac Newton! He would be so shocked to hear of this!
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>>740415041
evolution doesn't say "strong survive, weak perish" as if it were a guaranteed fact. what happens is the ones best adapted to survive are the ones who tend to survive. and best adapted doesn't mean optimally adapted
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Why does the feather thing feel like one giant psyop? There is a little evidence that a few, huge emphasis on a few, had feathers, but that would have never been enough to warrant this being a settled scientific fact. This feels exactly like dark energy and string theory. You have to accept the doctrine or you're out of the club
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>>740415350
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>>740416367
adaptation makes sense. the theory that everything on earth started off as amino acids and, given enough time, here we are is such crook with so many leaps of faith required to believe in it's basically no different from a religion
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>>740416504
but blacks are the only race with homo erectus dna...
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>>740416472
Because faggots latched onto it so hard
Fossils for smaller raptors were found with early feathers, and they decided that every dinosaur to ever exist was covered head to toe in pastel colored flight feathers
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>>740416515
>it's highly improbable, therefore it must be a higher god's doing!
brainlet-tier thinking
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These things are surprisingly docile when handled.
I expected something more like a snake where it either flees or bites with little warning if you come near or handle.
>just lets her pat him
Not what I was expecting. Komodos can be pretty docile and lazy, but they're also an isolated population where it gets the "dodo effect" with behaviour. Don't expect that with Aus monitor lizards much. Even bobtails will bite at all costs and are nasty to handle.

I imagine dinosaurs actually being nothing like this though. Birds are a bit trickier than reptiles. They tend to be way more aggressive and smart about things. Dinos are probably just dumber birds, more like cassowaries, than large reptiles like monitors or crocs. Many are also warm blooded and behaved differently because of that, though that's apparently controversial now? Lizards can be pretty docile at times depending on the time of day or year. In florida it got so cold recently that an invasive iguana or something there started to just fall out of trees, alive still. I imagine dinos wouldn't have that issue if they were warm blooded. They'd also require more food and carnivorous ones could be more hyper-carnivorous than reptiles. Reptiles tend to eat much less. They'd be more like lions maybe. Scary.
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>>740416752
ebin projection. it's not highly improbable, it's impossible. it's clear you just took it on faith and didn't look into the probability
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>>740416625
They also can't use their arms or thumbs properly too.
So true.
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>>740416686
It's fucking bizarre how people just assumed "must be caked in feathers" when we literally have birds with skin, particularly the larger ones with velociraptor like talons.
But I doubt they would be croc green all the time. They would be colourful because they are notorious for having bird like mating rituals that require "showing off".
So bright reds, yellows, blues, greens, spots, stripes, etc.

Instead, they assumed they would be like Rhinos and Elephants in the past - sort of monotonous with colours for camo reasons. Birds really don't do this much. Even ground parrots are brightly coloured for display.
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>>740406015
they literally did it with the spine they claimed to be solar sails instead of muscle attachment points.
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>>740399006
that spino is just the doofiest thing I swear
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>birds closest living reptilian relatives are crocodiles
So they would look more like crocs then? huh.
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>>740409998
>I preferred 2
Yea okay, jontron proved 2 sucked tho with his review
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>>740406104
Looks like a renaissance art demon.
>the veins on the arms
and they're jacked.
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>>740408413
(((octopus)))
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>>740414664
>chinese fossils
Well I wouldn't trust them given their "breakthroughs" at their unis in recent years on all sorts of bullshit that were just scams.
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>>740418206
>tfw crocs were there to watch dinoshits lose their size and turn into walking KFC buckets
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>>740418668
at least theres smart kfc buckets. crocs peaked early and stayed dumb
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>>740415041
And yet Rhinos and Elephants lost their fur to cope with hotter climates and gained fur in colder climates.
It's a bit odd.
But then you look at the legs on Ostriches and Emus and it makes sense - they could be transition.
I wonder if any large post K-PG bird line has lived long enough at that size to even obtain the same features as Rhinos and Elephants covergently?
You do see larger reptiles gain skin more like their legs. Monitors especially.

You also see lizards with mere membrane fin arrays like pic related. These do exist and is why people used to draw dinos like this.
These get pretty colourful too. There are a lot of lizards with shit like this in Aus. Just not as pronounced.
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Dino thread? Sweet. I've been playing Jurassic Park Trespasser recently. It's a game so bad, it's good. Is it jank? Yes. Are there parts that frustrated me greatly? Yes. But the game has actually managed to keep my attention, and dare I say, become slightly enjoyable. Once you figure out the QWOP like arm controls, it becomes quite satisfying to use. Nothing beats landing a clean headshot on a raptor. This has to be one of the most unique games I have ever played.
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>>740415887
If only there was something called thrust that existed.
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>>740400947
Everyone in these threads is white; the brown ones don't care about this.
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>>740419148
What's with the race baiting in these threads?
Is just astro turfing?
Maybe we do need poster ids.
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>>740398694
this is such a retarded approach to science...
>hur we can't do this thing therefor everything else is false even thos is completely unrelated
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>>740419106
There's no way this doesn't get a series reboot, even a VR game would make me happy.
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>>740419248
Thread ID alone would destroy half of the usual shitpost threads clogging the board. Only a handful of dedicated spergs swapping VPNs will remain
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>>740419248
>poster ids
shitposters have been hiding behind proxies and dynamic ip's since before you were even born, tourist
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>>740398694
Probably because they keep suing companies that have cures like they did with the drug that attempted to stop amyloid beta plaques.
Just after they pushed for mandatory vaccines in countries. Why did they give so much shit about this alzheimers treatment (aducanumab) when they were being so risky with their vaccines testing wise? Bit bizarre.
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>>740419580
Well I doubt they would bother doing that for every post in a thread. That would be a pain in the ass the solve captcha that many times.
Unless you paid indians to do it.
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>>740419128
Yeah it works by pushing against something. That's why the plane engines are less efficient at higher altitude, retard.
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>>740399645
No, no, there's a kernel of truth to this one
Dinosaurs were the original demoralization campaign.
They sodomized mammals so fucking bad for hundreds of millions of years, that manmals forgot to evolve longevity.
The reason uou get old, weak, and die like a pussy at like 70, is the lasting effects of the dinosaur demoralization campaign.
If you die before you turn like 250 like you're supposed to, YOU (You) were successfully gene-pozzed by the dinosaurs.
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>>740419580
Worked for a certain other chan, definitely still had VPN hoppers but making it a bit harder weeded out a ton of shitposts
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>>740415803
But what evidence is there to support the idea that the T-Rex was the first “avian-esque” dinosaur? It’d be atypical for the first of an anatomical variety to be gigantic, and the smaller dinos of similar body plans (raptors and such) have strong evidence in support of feathering. It’s not asking “why would T-Rex develop feathers” so much as asking “would T-Rex lose feathers” because it’s basically a gigantamaxed variant of the litany of bipedal short-armed chicken-legged predatory dinosaurs. If many of them had feathers, and their closest genetic descendants and anatomical relatives have feathers, I’d say the default position should be expecting it to be feathered. That doesn’t mean it was; as has been pointed out, elephants lost their fur with time. Certainly there was biological pressure for it to lose feathers. But that doesn’t make the claim that it had feathers somehow retarded. It’s still extremely plausible.
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>>740419280
An actual scientist never says something is certain, only likely or unlikely
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>>740419368
Yeah but you would have to run several VMs on different VPNs at the same time to emulate an environment which appeared to have different posters on a thread. That's not exactly easy.
Then again, you might not need anything but multiple browsers with different VPNs. It might not triangulate your identity through the type of browser you use or your OS/machine or something. Phone authentication doesn't solve this either btw. I don't even know why people bother with it because all it does is stop legit posters after a while.
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>>740419870
Rockets make their own external environment to push against.
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>>740399471
Good I'm happy to see this is the first comment


Remember everyone: the daily recommended amount of carbohydrates is 0 grams ever in your entire life
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>>740399006
They've actually reversed on it quite a bit, the idea now is that T-Rex had feathers when very young to keep them warm, but were scaly as adults. Things change as people learn more, people just went overboard when feathers were first discovered.
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>>740399645
werent they kinda for christfags? Afaik it went against their 6k years earth creation myth to find something older. I believe they even coped with "the devil put it there as a test"
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>>740420208
While the body can adapt to running on fats and proteins through ketosis, a strict rule of 0 grams of carbohydrates is medically inaccurate. Major health authorities universally define carbohydrates as a fundamental macronutrient essential for optimal brain function, energy, and hormonal balance.
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>>740417112
I imagine dinosaurs effectively span a lot of animal personality types, since they filled so many niches.
I see big sauropods being kinda like whales. Very indifferent to most things, but observant and curious.
I see some of the smaller raptors like troodon or velociraptor being kinda like crows or blue jays.
Where my imagination fails is on the herbivores like ceratops or iguanadon.
Ceratops, I feel the gut instinct towards something like a rhino or a buffalo, but that doesn't feel quite right, and the bipedal herbivores like iguanadon or therizinosaurus, there's just no good model for. Besides primates, I guess, but that doesn't feel right.

Monitor lizards in general are very cool though, independent of anything else. Very chill, very smart, iirc they have about as much processing power as a dog, without all the weird stuff dogs have evolved to interact with humans specifically.
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>>740420326
>it went against their 6k years earth creation myth
what is apparent age
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>>740420319
They probably have filaments, potentially almost a fur at the poles I'd imagine.
For older species of dinos, apparently the late Jurassic/early cretaceous was cold?
Honestly, that could explain why feathers became common. That's around the same time Archaeopteryx appeared (the "first" bird theropod).

I don't know much about that period. Was it a glaciation? I stupidly assumed the triassic to K-PG was warm.
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>>740419580
>>740419248
The answer is to not have posting IDs broadly enabled for all threads, it's to sometimes, completely at random, update a thread with post IDs. It would be really really funny to see someone shitposting for hours pretending to be multiple people be exposed.
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>>740419961
>would T-Rex lose feathers
This
Evolution is pretty bad at getting rid of things
A thing only goes away if it starts being a drawback, and a drawback enough to interfere with surviving to adulthood or breeding. Sometimes saving a tiny bit of calories or minerals is actually enough, but a lot more often you get things that do get in the way, so get a bit smaller and then they're "good enough".
This is why shit like whales having feet happens. The feet inside a whale don't really hold it back, so there's no evolutionary pressure to get rid of what's left.
Things that are niether helpful nor unhelpful, or are very mildly unhelpful, tend to not be evolutionary pressures, because they aren't responsible for removing things with them from the gene pool.
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>>740398568
All land animals have lips to protect their teeth and keep them from drying out and becoming brittle.
Jack Horner's "T. rex is a scavenger" retardation has been laughed at and disproven since the moment he first came up with it.
Several tyrannosauroids had feathers. T. rex was not one of them.
Dinosaurs didn't have larynxes, they couldn't produce the mammalian sounds in the movies. They could make sounds that reptiles and birds make.
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>>740400707
brehs
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>>740404974
>>740405117
'dragon bones' were also valued in europe for the supposed Alchemic properties
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>>740419280
>can't cure diseases
>can't tell one sex from another
>constantly grifting for bullshit political movements
>can't engineer new technologies, can only iterate (or even regress) preexisting ones
>constantly playing God and inventing new diseases for no good reason
>can't keep them contained to the lab
Modern scientists have proven themselves to be a fraction as competent as previous generations scientists. The fact that previous scientists tell me that dinosaurs breathed fire and were super lizards, and the modern ones tell me they're birds is proof positive to me that Jurassic park had it right.
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>>740420981
>Several tyrannosauroids had feathers. T. rex was not one of them.
But surely they would have vestigial filaments right?
God, it's arms must have been really bizarre looking. Like a giant "legless" lizard on two hind legs.

>I think I killed one of these thinking it was a dugite the other day.. oops
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>>740398568
why did you include the lips thing alongside the other clickbait articles
it's extremely sensible that they'd want their teeth to be protected from wear-and-tear
I don't think komodo dragons are any less intimidating for having lips
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let me guess
ancient humans had feathers too right?
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>>740421610
i saw those native americans wear feathers
checkmate atheist
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>>740421431
Doubtful. And Rex's arms were still very strong and highly mobile along with being able to withstand the forces generated by a large struggling animal.
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>>740421610
>BEHOLD! A T-REX!
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>>740399338
These threads are made and replied to by bots. Dead internet theory is real.
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>>740399835
>Time travel: they re uncanny big mammals
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>>740398568
Well we'll never know for sure because all these creatures have been dead for millions of years.
At best all we can do is guess.
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>>740421850
They are quite small, though.
Would he bend down to use them or something?
Or does he use them like a seal will with stuff? I mean that does happen, but let's be frank it looks stupid as hell with seals.

I think Cassowary but no feathers and occasional filaments is probably more likely. Terror birds were also more like this it seems.
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>>740422180
if you add wings to arms then you get something that might help control body position, like he could flap to prevent falling sideways.
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>>740422170
Why can't we just Jurassic Park them
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>>740422180
I imagine they were used mostly for stabilization, balance, and a little bit of grappling. The main issue with them is moreso that they're almost completely out of vision range, so it's unlikely that anything they did took much dexterity. More autonomous motions make the most sense.

That, or they had big, non-fossilizing tissues on those hands that fossils will never tell the story of. The big floppy prehensile dick fingers
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>>740422052
Paleogene mammals are fucking cool as fuck though.
>basilosaurus
>basically a giant orca tier early whale that looked more like Liopleurodon than modern whales

I'm shocked these things don't still exist.
Then again, Leopard Seals are pretty mean looking things too. Is it me or do Carnivores tend to look menacing on purpose to induce intimidation and panic in their prey? Cortisol is a hell of a hormone. I could see how that would be naturally selected.

>if it looks mean it probably is, unless it's pretending to be
Could also make other predators avoid it.
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>>740399006
Soul vs Soulless
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>>740422436
we're still looking for the mosquito that bit a dinosaur and hasn't been swatted for 90 million years
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>>740398568
>TRex has lips
UNF
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>>740422436
DNA doesn't survive that long, and even if it did we don't have anything alive that's close enough to do the other half of the work. If we had something close enough to a dinosaur to sire the clone, and found preserved enough samples of DNA, it could happen, but we don't, and the odds of that are incredibly low.
The best odds of "resurrecting" dinosaurs is actually to just splice a bunch of birds together and pull out all the dinosaur
-like qualities into one animal. This would be its own thing than a proper dinosaur, and would be at least as much a product of human creativity as the actual genes, but it's the best bet, short of a truly miraculous case of tissue preservation that we could model the same after.
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>>740399006
>>740399181
see >>740415143


There's a reason apex carnivores don't look like this unless they're underwater or in a very cold location. They need to be agile to catch prey.
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>>740422760
>Lusty T-Rex Lady
Now this is podracing.
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>>740415779
CHAOS
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Dinosaurs never existed. The "bones" you see in museums are plaster fakes.

"But we have the real bones downstairs in the archives, pinky swear."
"May I see them?"
"No."
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>>740422929
>DNA doesn't survive that long
Depends on the environment.
Cryogenics is a thing.
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>>740423053
>just let me see the priceless fragile rocks
>no I don't have a hammer in my pants I'm just excited to see you
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Please enjoy these unedited sounds of a goose and heron fighting https://files.catbox.moe/1pc1e0.mp4
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>>740423053
What's their end game, anon?
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>>740423053
Mate, I can literally go to a beach where footprints exist. Everywhere in Aus.
They have some in opal form in some isolated places.
Are you suggesting they faked bones with an expensive rare gemstone?
If so, that's commitment, but I doubt it. Fossils are everywhere here.
Mainly ones older than dinosaurs though. Devonian ones. Kinda bizarre creatures 2bh. I don't trust their gay appearance at all.
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>>740422646
>Is it me or do Carnivores tend to look menacing on purpose to induce intimidation and panic in their prey
My gut instinct is that's backwards.
Carnivores tend to develop features that help them track, take down, and/or consume prey, before specializing around particular kinds of prey, and because those features are associated with carnivores, you have a built up evolutionary aversion to those features.
They didn't evolve to look scary, the way they look serves unrelated purposes, but became scary because predators look that way.

Most things that try to make visual displays of intimidation work, as a thing they actively do, tend to have some combination of bright colors, or some sort of frill or fan or other thing that makes them look bigger, or both. Niether of which something like a leopard seal does.
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>>740423481
Some would call it a cult to sell crap.
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>>740423098
This is true, but suffers the issue of where would a dinosaur be, that isn't frozen now, but is going to freeze and never thaw for 200 million years.
There might be a few asscracks of the world that fit this description, maybe some antarctic cave or something, but then you need a dinosaur getting there and dying right at the perfect moment, and then us finding it and not flubbing the recovery and letting it melt..
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Sometimes Scientists are just ass holes fucking around or being contrarian to make their mark or to protect their status. Scientists once tried to deny the existence of bacteria because it would imply they had been causing Women to die during child birth from infection caused by the Doctors delivering the Babies.
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>>740399006
Dinosaurs aren't reptiles. Crocodiles and turtles, which are reptiles, existed at the same time as dinosaurs.
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>another thread full of new age hippies talking about how science is le bad
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>>740400707
The forelimbs have five claws/nails. Hence, not a dino. they had three at most>>740400704
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>>740423538
>They didn't evolve to look scary, the way they look serves unrelated purposes
Explains why some creatures like to pretend they are them by looking like them. Creatures obviously adapt and associate that appearance with "danger" kinda like how we associate brightly coloured things with danger.

Leopard Seals do have an intimidating appearance to me, personally and I don't understand whether that's because they're become an apex predator and covergently adapting features that other predators have in their facial structure or something like that. Orcas also look a bit more intimidating to me than other dolphins.
Leopard Seals have that "reptilian predator" looking head. It almost looks like a shark here.
Cobia fish also tend to resemble sharks too in body shape with the hump on their back.

You'd have to get a pool of species from an area and check for correlation with body features to check that really. Could be extremely tricky to prove scientifically.
You could probably try this with dinosaurs if we could regularly confirm if they had filaments/feathers enough, but we really cannot do that.
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i am a dinosaur
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>>740398796
>didn't fictional movie
what
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>>740424194
Actually, this specific problem might be unsolvable scientifically. You probably cannot get a large enough sample size of different animals with confirmed feathers/lack of them to confirm just how common the feathers were in species back then. That's why it's always been kinda sketchy since the 50s with the problem of "were they feathered or not". It's practically unproveable 2bh.

I would like to see a method that tries to overcome the inconsistent fossil data. We can prove that a species occurs globally or not, but it's much harder to prove whether that species did have feathers based on OTHER species having feathers. But there is a mild pattern with how things tend towards certain characteristics TODAY that we can sort of predict things with. I just think that introduces a hell of a lot of bias because genes have diversified a fuck tonne since then due to extinction events and natural selection in general doing it's thing. To apply patterns in appearance of modern animals to animals 100 million years or so ago is a little incorrect to do considering animals likely developed the appearance of many of these features only since that time for the first time. That's what natural selection does. It finds "new paths" for building an animal.

In fact, this path finding is strangely relevant to AI construction apparently. Natural selection is a slow form of path finding in a way and AI requires more and more optimised path finding when it's trained or something like that. Interesting. (it's also why it "bugs" so weirdly, by diverting from natural selection too much).

>>740424991
You're more of an opossum.
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>>740425123
i have feathers
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This the reason why I say dinosaurs aren't real. Its like a mf showing some North Korean kid a picture of Pikachu and saying this is what a NYC rat looks like and they believe because its cool. Its no different than looking at a dragon and saying these are real creatures.
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>AI is like natural selection with low chromosone levels
hmm.. this thread really made me think

Humans are surprisingly lower in chromosones (46) to the real gene chads of the ape world, orangutans and gorillas (48).
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>>740416472
Most of the evidence is for smaller therapods - which since early birds were themselves small therapods makes sense that other branches of that genus had similar traits.
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>>740420402
Running on fats really isn't the adaptation, it's the default
Humans were obligate hypercarnivores for the millenia before agriculture
Maybe they'd sometimes forage some seasonal wild berries (much less sugar content than our modern varieties) or chew on roots in lean times
But our species appropriate natural diet is majority the meat of large ruminants and the accompanying fat

At a minimum there's no place in the human diet for cereal grains or leafy vegetables, that shit is pure propaganda
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>>740425367
in 1 million years people are going to be parading around pikachu fossiles pretending they actually existed
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>>740425159
Strange feathered opossum that never gets laid because he's a creepy looking gay motherfucker.
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>>740425529
just wait until the rape
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>>740424376
For fucks sake they look like that so they can swim fast, stay warm and catch penguins. They aren't even the apex predator, Killer Whales are.
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>>740423053
Of course, all the museums with dinosaur bones in the world, all the independent paleontologists who have discovered dino bones, and even the Chinese who called them "dragon bones" for at least 2,000 years, they're all in cahoots.
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>>740425367
Firstly, dragons are real and there are many.
Secondly, have you seen NYC rats? Those motherfuckers are huge and growing super intelligence. Some even train turtles in combat in the sewers there.
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>>740401156
Yeah, every time. People also have to pick these arbitrary sides even though nothing is going to stop anyone from depicting feathered and or scaled dinos.
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>>740425518
>modern AI
>all the personality
>no brains

I always thought it would be the opposite of this when we started to make good AI, yet somehow we mastered personality WAY more than intelligence (because we lobotomised them on purpose for the sake of protecting jews).
This is why we don't have medicine that works anymore.
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here are your dionosaurs
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>>740425560
>snek: REEEEEEEEE
>birb: nothing personal kiddo
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>>740425858
i dont need my ai to be smart
i just need it to make memes
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>>740425518
They're currently and will continue to do that with dinosaurs but let's ignore that right. Have you heard about the new dinosaur that found in China literally yesterday. They can't possibly be making up shit just to justify more funding money in their pockets. Human will never put greed over the truth right?
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>>740426184
if you keep digging you just might find one too
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>>740425563
Oh they're not the true apex, we are definitely the true apex now, followed by whales and sharks.
But for seals they are well above the food chain compared to most seals.
Maybe that's what we should look at, how different they are compared to the average seal and how much higher they are on the food chain.
>I'm sure that's exactly what they did for T-Rex and it's probably biased nonsense because we don't know all the species similar to T-Rex nor how similar they are genetically aside from their bones
It's not like more recent species of animals including hominids, where you can see a correlation of features, where they are likely to occur (niche and location) and whether they are in relation to older species (which you probably can get genetic data from).

Unless they just assumed that specific looks are there because of specific genes. If that was the case, head binding human cultures could not possibly have deformed heads right? It's a flawed premise.
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>>740425896
>If you give it teeth it would be like this but with feathers
Now this didn't happen (feathers) with compsognathus, but it's kinda interesting how similar it would be.
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>>740411383
biomechanical analyses found out that dinosaurs, which in the triassic mainly lived in the poles of Pangea, would have needed some degree of filamentous integument to maintain a high enough body temperature
This wasn't the case for pseudosuchians or stem-archosaurs, which were generally confined to more central latitudes
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>>740426565
I take this back, apparently a similar species was discovered near Archaeopteryx and had downy feathers.
So this would be more like a small mammal with the teeth. Obviously having not adapted the behaviours we see more commonly with birds at this point in time.
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>>740423137
>develop time machine
>go back in time to see how dinosaurs really were
>they're the spielberg lizards and the feathered ones are a minority
>but the jungle sounds like a fucking chinese street market because they all honk and hiss and gormgle and roar the weirdest fuck noises ever
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>>740426749
Oh, so the australian bush?
It's so weird hearing those sounds in movies as the "sound of the jurassic" or the sound of the rainforest so often. The forests, at least where I live, are not rainforests and are extremely dry for forests.
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>>740426902
birds in general are not really silent. One can imagine dinos, being fuck huge and on the top of the food chain, would be the noisiest most obnoxious fucks ever since all that sass could be directed towards sexual selection without the environment affecting them as much.
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>>740423137
Sounds like my front yard with some birds during breeding season when they swoop EVERYTHING that moves around them. I have like 4 different species all living around me in trees and they ALL swoop me when I go outside.


>my cat can't be bothered
Why do I even pay for you.
It hasn't caught a mouse in years.
poor old girl ;_;
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>>740427220
Well have you seen Chimps, Wolves and Lions?
They aren't quiet at all. They LOVE to talk.

Birds are worse.
I imagine dinos would be even worse just on them being related to birds but in the niche of those predators alone.
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>>740398568
can't believe leftist demoralizers even went after dinosaurs
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>>740419280
medicine is guesswork
paleontology is speculative fiction
get a real science you dumb cunt
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Monitors and crocs also hiss like fuck if I recall.
Snakes too.

Dinos might be more of a hiss type of animal I'd imagine. Early birds too.
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>>740427405
Yeah, just from watching them around the house it's very clear they make way more noise and are actually directly calling to/responding to each other a lot of the time.
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Oh and fucking Tassy devils are the noisiest motherfuckers and they're not even big. Just a bigger predator in it's little island niche. Apparently Tas Tigers were loud too.

>>740427440
>meep meep
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>>740427535
baby crocs makes funny plasma gun noises for some fucking reason.
shoebills have machinegun sounds and cassowaries sounds like demons. Dinos could probably hiss as adults and make funny noises when babies but really I bet they could make all sorts of weird noises.
especially for mating purposes.
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>>740427535
The loudest animal known to exist is the sperm whale. It doesn't roar it clicks, these clicks are more powerful than a jet taking off and can kill you. Yes I know whales and dinosaurs are different but the insinuation that really large animals roared like fucking hollywood b-movie abominations needs to die. A Tyrannosaurus could vibrate you back to your ancestral prey drive, thats cooler.
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>>740408960
Bears also don't require the cost of genetic engineering lab at the bleeding edge of the industry.
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>>740427636
>are actually directly calling to/responding to each other a lot of the time.
You tend to be able to tell from the type of call they make. Aggressive tones are rather noticeable because... that's the point of them. That's what natural selection wanted them to be like. It's amazing how the collective will over many generations of a species evolves these things. Like they all just choose this in minute ways and eventually it manifests to a degree.
But sometimes that choice is made out of panic and it creates the prey species.

With humans it's weirder again, because it's mere confusion and there's no clear physical tangible species preying on them, just more ethereal systems selecting people over time. Some are even induced into believing themselves superior from this. Bizarre creatures. But that's what happens when you don't have true predators for so long other than, your society and cults.
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>>740427865
>Dolphins have literal sonar noses
>Sperm whales have sonic cannons and can communicate across the entire fucking ocean
they really are fighting eldritch abominations at the bottom of the ocean.
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>>740427936
For now.
>disappearing fast ;_;

Let's just feed them africans or something already.
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>>740398568
Damn. And I thought Turok: Dinosaur Hunter was a biography.
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>>740398568
no, the findings apply more to Coelurosauria, aka the dinos more related to birds rather than carnosaurs.
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>>740428107
>they really are fighting eldritch abominations at the bottom of the ocean.
I saw one of these at Wellington's museum preserved. It's fucking insane these just exist.
The Kraken is real.

I wonder if people just merely thought sailors were talking completely bullshit about these things for so long or whether they assumed they were real like with most myths back then.
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>>740428753
Oh and that was a colossal squid, apparently they have branching species of giant squid, that's how many giant squid there are.
The ocean is terrifying. Subnautica kinda underplays it at times.
Like the fish that attack you? Needlefish (these motherfuckers are insanely dangerous and kill many people and I had no idea, they leap out of the water right into the heads of people regularly ... somehow I am fucking terrified of them now because there are many around me) and barracuda exist. Groupers do attack. Jellyfish kill people here. Starfish are poisonous. Sharks ... well they exist but that's not a surprise to people. The others are not as well known, well until recently.

Seriously, do not fucking underestimate needlefish, swordfish and billfish. Anything fast that can stab you can and will try to kill you instinctively apparently. I had no idea they were that bad and could harm people.
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Typical dino thread on chan:
-Op posts edited shit that has no source
-People fight over feathers while the conclusion from a long time ago was there were both feathered and non feathered dinosaurs.
-Cancer schizo believes good food can beat cancer.
-Pol tourist starts bitching about juice
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>>740428753
>>740429241
maybe tiktaalik had a point.
sharks are older than fucking dinosaurs.
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>>740429453
What am I then?
>autist starts talking about creatures that are badass and can kill you because that's metal as fuck
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>>740425720
Enjoy the company of Anonyjews, in their hate of jews some became the ultragigajew from hell in order to beat the jews online by jewing everybody all the time. I met a despondent online jew lamenting he just can't compete with the neo nazis since 2019.
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>>740429458
On land I can generally see most things, aside from air borne diseases.
But under water... NOPE. They just come from no where and you're not specialised to see or defend from them.
It's strange how there is not really a creature that can easily take on things on land and underwater much apart from pathogens. Most semi-aquatic creatures tend to skew their attributes towards the ocean or land.

>seals, crocs, useless on land
>polar bears, useless in or under water but can get a feed

Hippos might be the closest things to an exception but even they can't fend off crocs and I guess sharks in water. Maybe mosquitoes? But they're only a threat because of the pathogens. Small worms tend to suck in the air, but not so much in water and dirt.
Kinda interesting how bad nature is with both, but not as bad with just one or the other. I guess nature has had less creatures over time in that specific niche to develop a supreme beast for that niche other than pathogens.
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>>740427865
I thought the loudest animal known to exist was the North American Overweight Sheboon
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>>740429985
Well all people say the same about society nowadays so it is just master/prey evolution at work.
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>>740430135
The loudest one is the obnoxious gaslighting shitposter posting irrelevant off topic shit to bump his thread.
Truly an obnoxious animal.



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