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>become a fire mage
>visit water mages
>they have nicer robes, a nicer hideout and a comfy town
god damn it
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Awful performance, fix your shit.
Fuck the shill/employee too.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>740625289
where the fuck are the inos shrines? I only see 3 waterfalls on the map and I've been to each, and you cannot go behind any of them
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>>740625043
hey you,
you are finally awake
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>>740625043
it's woke
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>Remake
Never heard of Gothic in my life and people acting like its some classic. You guys are just straight up making up bullshit now
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>>740625381
Ohhh no, not my haggggs
Save my poor whores chuds
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>Old Camp gives me daily food.
>Swamp Camp gives me daily kush.

Well, New Camp? What are you doing to improve my daily life?
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>this retard is STILL HERE
>all day long
>every single day
>he is jobless and his PC is too shitty to play video games so this is his life
I'd rather be in the colony IRL desu
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very funny gothicbabs but zoom zooms won't get this
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>>740625495
You got to carry water daily like a little slave
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>>740625495
daily commanding Lefty to give the farmers water
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when is the patch, I can't keep playing with this shitty lockpicking system
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>>740625381
And shills were saying they were fixed. LMFAO Fuck off shills those are men.
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Now he's replying to himself again.
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>>740625396
One is behind the waterfall west along the river north of the old camp. The other is along the cliffs a bit north of where the focus stone was.
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>>740625495
Them not killing you is your daily gift
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>and it's still replying to himself
Gothic fans won
Poland won
Germany won
Spain won
brown Discord spammers lost
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>>740625426
i've yet to be ordered around by a girlboss guard, or encountered a homosexual (other than the guy who said he "wasn't too interested in girls"). Like 10% of the npc's are black, but it is a fucking prison after all.
Even the implied gay dude, he's not dating men or married to a man or anything, just a closeted old faggot, that's always, always been a thing.

Of 3 female NPC's i've seen:
>chained up being lowered into prison
>dancing for gomez
>a cook

So what's woke about it, other than your faggot schizophrenia kicking in.
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>>740625615
>>740625639
Replytoselfmind
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how the fuck do you activate marvin mode in the remake?
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>>740625043
>remake slop

Fucking pathetic lol
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>>740625728
You can't.
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>>740625381
bitch on the left (the remake one) looks like leon kennedy if im completely cereal and as long as you dont look down to her chest
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>>740625513
I dont get it
To my defence, I last played gothic I like 20 years ago. Was is that demon speaking in demon speech yet hero could understand him?
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>>740625381
imagine the kvetching when the devs were told that they have to give them a tiny bit skin instead of some fucking burlap sacks, just to please some problematic chuds online :(
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>still replying to himself
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>>740625792
the demon just made noises while nameless hero made replies that were repeating back what he heard to make the audience understand what was said to him telepathically. It was in form of annoying questions like: Me? Defeat the demons? Trial of elements?
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I feel sweaty just being the swamp. the spaniards did a good job with it
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>>740622394
I hope you also grabbed the +str potion on the corpse's hand
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>>740625807
Yes youve posted it about 80 times now, we are aware this is a big deal for you
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>>740625654
>or encountered a homosexual
WRONG
you replied to one
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>>740625513
>can attack him
>can empty his HP bar
>but he won't die or even get knocked out even if empty it completly
lame and gay
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When you learn climbing from the dude ar the beach, there's what I assume is a zombie noise coming from somewhere. Is there a way to get to it?
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>>740626039
>I thought it was him at first on a bad trip
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Is that an epic Elden Ring reference?
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>get rid of the fog
>it becomes kino
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>>740625958
you got me confused buddy, it's my first time in a gothic remake thread!
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fucking sad that he can't even own up to his own mental illness. That tells me he knows it is retarded and pathetic but he still does it
LOL
>>740625928
FUCK
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>>740625373
Console or PC, anon?
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>>740625903
I've not played gothic yet but from lurking in these threads it does seem like ash & steel is a carbon copy
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>>740626282
>FUCK
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>>740626372
could someone tell those silly rooskies how to make usable signs? #1 complaint about ash and steel is that the road signs are absolutely useless, you cannot tell what fucking direction they are pointing.
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>>740626372
maybe I'll check that out after this
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>>740625654
NTA, don't care or anything, but this dude came off as homosexual to me. Sometimes when he bothers me he wants to "go somewhere quiet" so we can "talk." Maybe he wants to murder me, but he comes off as a homo.
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>>740626506
He's not into men, he only fucks sheep
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>>740626506
he's in there for 'really loving animals'; he's a joke character, but maybe?
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Poor bastard
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nnnn..diiego..im gonna bust... hhnngGHHHHHHH
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My favorite part of the map is the ocean to the east. That beach with the shipwreck near the fog tower always fascinated me back in the day. It was sort of a "liminal space" if you will.
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my retarded bratty wife is playing it, i didn't even know
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>>740626650
will he be fine?
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can you upgrade mage robes? cause these stats SUCK
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Reminder that you didn't play "Gothic" if you played the demake
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>>740627061
Yeah just like this guy who tried crossing the barrier, they're just taking a nap
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>>740627126
Yeah, I wouldnt worry too much about him either, he will get himself together for sure
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>>740627086
I'm still having a BLAST
This is a true return to form.
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>>740627317
unironically having a blast, the spaniards did not fuck this up. no idea how they pulled it off =P
>$0.00 has been deposited into your account.
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>>740626443
They should have given the map to you right after the prologue desu. Quite a stupid decision to delay access such a core mechanic when the mc is a cartographer. Navigation itself is a fucking pain since everything is covered with trees, even knowing that you will eventually loop around by sticking to the roads.

>>740626504
It's a torture. I could rant about the combat design forever but i'll just mention that critical hits that you deal have a longer animation meaning you will take damage from the enemy without being able to dodge it, and you usually die in 1 or 2 hits.
The early impression might be good but it really drops in quality and starts giving you FF15 fetch quests without real guidance and barebones rewards. There's not much variety in the level design either.
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>>740625043
Did they fix the protagonist constantly talking in the intro?
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>>740627114
Nah, you did. Same script and everything. You basically played it. This isn't like FF7 Remake or RE2 remake or something like that where it's a sequel or reimagining with different character personalities and motivations. It's more like the RE1 remake, a completely faithful remake with additional content. You can play the original RE1 to see the changes and stuff for curiosities sake, and it's worth it, but if you played the remake you played RE1.
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>>740627497
That whole thing was shelved years ago. This is mostly a straight retelling.
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tried the game out for a bit, the art direction is everything is brown and desaturated so you cant see shit on the ground or tell apart anything, so you never know where loot is on the ground
this is real basic game design stuff
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>>740627464
>ash and steel..
i can forgive not having a map, even with as you said, BEING A cartographer.
but having these janky road signs that are completely ambiguous as to what direction they are pointing is just stupid.

I'll pick it up back up at some point, i was intrigued, but it was still a bit janky last winter when i tried it. Going back to the starting area after a period of time was hilariously buggy (pro tip: save your game before you go back, the NPC won't let you leave)
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>>740627612
Nice. How's the performance? This is a UE5 game isn't it?
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>no markers
>directions are shit
>rat killed me


I just want to be a mage, why does this game hate me.
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>>740627497
They scrapped that build, adjusted the design team, and started working on a more faithful adaptation. It turned out nothing like that garbage, thankfully.
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>>740627317
that doesnt answer my question
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>>740625043
>that silhouette
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>>740627668
>options
>turn on white outline
Woooooow
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>>740628116
i didnt know that was in options, i definitely will turn it on
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>>740625928
nta but i can't even get up there again, managed to climb the rocks once by luck and now i can't no matter what. probably getting there from the wrong way
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>>740627930
it's pretty demanding
Running a 5900xtx, 32gb ram, 9700XTX
at 4k with max graphics (allah forgive me, for uttering these words), and FSR3 -- and getting between 65-90fps
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>>740628120
Wrong. Remasters and reboots are all shit, but some remakes and re-released/enhanced ports are better than the original game.
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>>740628184
>5900XT
>minor_typo.png
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>>740628120
You're the kind of faggot to say you're not playing Resident Evil 1 for real if you don't play with tank controls
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I'm a Gothic 1 Remake player and I'm capable of rudimentary rune magic, which I've used to defeat Mordrag very early in my playthrough. Soon I will learn to mount something--probably Mud.
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>>740628263
>>740628294
You sound raped
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>>740628174
Go underwater, under the boat where the body is hanging and then try getting on the rock near the ledge where the chest is. It's a little janky but it works.
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>>740626141
I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with the fog there's just way too much of it.
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>>740628294
I'm >>740628263 and >>740627559 and you absolutely didn't play remake properly if you used "modern" controls. The game was designed to be played with tank controls. Direction-based controls break the game. Whoever added that shit to the HD remaster cared more about sales by appealing to low IQ retards with no spacial reasoning than they did about the integrity of the game.
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>>740628550
Leaving sharpening at 100 already tells you they don't know how to fine tune graphics settings.
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>>740627464
oh, well maybe not then LOL. Thanks for the impressions
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>get circle 4 magic
>get a single new spell
bro
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for the cultists I can go collect their package and just keep it and then fuck off, right?
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>>740627464
Nice Rust server
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where does the swimming trainer go after you finish his quest? i spend 1 hour looking for him and the glossary says he is alive
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Can I do The Raid and still join the Old Camp after? Or is this a point of no return?
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>>740629386
Inside the camp, going down left as you enter, go close to the central hole and you'll see him sitting by a bonfire with a fairly large group of bandits.
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that was great
goty 2001
goty 2026
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>>740629798
LMAO the demake is dogshit
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>>740625451
It's one of the best examples of a cult classic. Moreover it spawned a specific type of eurojank that's still being made nowadays (ELEX I/II). It also turns 25 this year. Feel free to look up reviews from back when it was released while keeping it mind that the review scores reflect that it came out very buggy and unstable.
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>find what happened to NPC
>go back to town
>"Talk to Sly"
>running around the town whre all the buildings look the same in a loop for 20 minutes trying to find him

Epic game
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>>740629480
thanks, for reference he is in the same campfire as butch and wolf
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>go outside to try and get exp and collect shit to make money and get killed by anything that isn't a molerat
>stay in old camp and get extorted by guards
What do I even do?
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>>740630119
Might as well get taken to the religious Swamp Camp by one of those bald dudes and smoke swampweed.
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shit, they've turned it into an actual spectacle and not a wet fart like it used to be, neat
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>>740629981
>he doesn't use his 3rd eye to divine his location

must be hard to be disabled.
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>>740628184
I'm rocking a 5700x, 9060 XT 16gb and 32gb ram. I think I should be fine playing on 1440p with mediumish settings and also >fsr 3
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>>740630231
this post is brown zoomer coded
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>>740630356
false
38yo fat balding pole
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So is my game bricked? I'm on the quest to meet the Water Mage Saturas, and the guards won't even talk to me or let me through without aggroing the entire fucking town.
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>>740629423
Ok, well, I did it and yes, doing The Raid locks you in on joining New Camp, for future reference.
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>>740629798
>bohatier
why are poles so cute
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>>740630119
I've been told it's a good idea to use a bow early game until you can unlock the first rank of One Handed Weapons (Trained) from Catty the bald arena bet manager guy.
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mmmmmmmm trenchfoot
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>>740630523
in the original if you let them knock you out they'll reset
drop your best weapons and nuggers in a chest or they'll take them
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>>740630763
you can just drop everything in your home chest but I've had luck with resting for 24 hours to break accidental aggros
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>got filtered by OG gothic some years ago
>mostly filtered by risen
>filtered by archolos
>boot up gothic remake fir first time
>dude tells me down the canyon might be a rusty sword or some shit dunno
>go down to see what that is all about
>get two shot by a fucking chicken
That said I don't feel filtered yet as the movement feels considerably better so i'm going to stick it out.
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>>740630295
I have the same exact config. Are you downloading it now, anon?
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>>740630295
isn't this unreal engine? you can use optiscaler for fsr4.1
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drax dying on the way to the new camp so i need to reload 10 minutes ago
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Some dude made a Lockpick solver kek
https://gothic1r-lockpicksolver.netlify.app/
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>>740631624
Yeah we don't post that here. It ruins immersion.
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>>740631702
I'm browsing Steam forums. Vibecoders went GAGA on this shit and made a bunch. Here's another: https://razikus.github.io/gothic-remake-chestlock-solver/
We need to bully these people more.
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Does joining a camp lock any sidequests apart from the ones to join other camps?
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I am in chapter 4 almost now, i really wanted to do a mage build so i never trained swords, trained bows up to master, it takes around 160 LP to be a mage, so also almost no dex or str, (30 dex) and now everything literally one shots me im stuck on a boss i am only a T4 mage, the spells are so damn weak, i cant do any damage , i am unsure what i did i wrong, but i am bricked cant progress story pass this boss, so, wtf did i do wrong? i got 100 MP , t4 magic , 30 dex , 10 str , and hit like a pool noodle...
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>>740631624
there's a ton of them and I understand why, 6 plate locks needing 50+ actions with a solver is absolute madness.
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>>740630763
>in the original if you let them knock you out they'll reset
No you don't get it. The quest is telling me to meet the water mages, the devs straight up said to talk to the guard to progress and be let in. Even if you zoom in, the guy you are susposed to talk to will kill you. They still haven't patched it.
The game is literally bricked in chapter 3.
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>still no real mods
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>>740632343
The game isn't even fixed, anon.
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>>740631029

I only fuck Argie girls.
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this lock pick minigame SUCKS
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It's over.
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Is there a way to save edit in armour?
This red robe is ugly and I want the blue mage robe
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>>740632773
And yet he won't refund the game. lol
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>>740627317
sames even considering actually buying it
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>lockpick into gomez's quarters
>apparently the literal best armor in the game is in there
>im now unkillable
ok i guess
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>>740625043
GET THIS WOKE TRASH OFF MY BOARD RIGHT NOW
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>>740632773
>its the lockpicking that breaks the normies
>not the softlocking bugs
lmao
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>>740632773
too retarded to download a cheat engine script too it seems
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>>740633274
HAHA it's a pretend janitor, can't even get accepted to do it for free
>my board
HAHAHAHA
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So does this game actually have performance issues? I am considering playing it but I am seeing a lot of conflicting reviews based on the optimization and performance of the game. Some even posit that the console experience is worse than on PC. Any truth to this?
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>>740633125
are you sure you played the game? the chest is locked with an unpíckable lock, you have to beat gomez first to get the key, at which point you don't need lockpicking.
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>>740633427
Apparently, yeah. Console is suffering with lower framerates, more than PC, but they are addressing the issues. There was a patch yesterday for console and we were suppose to have one on PC today (Monday), but I guess that's gone now, maybe tomorrow.
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>>740633296
Most games on PC don't even know what Cheat Engine does, anon. Stop being an elitist cunt
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>>740633763
>Console is suffering with lower framerates
probably because they literally locked it to 30fps even on the ps5 pro for some retarded reason
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>>740628550
UE5 must just have some retarded default settings for fog
Oblivion remake had fog inside the fucking oblivion gate caves
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>spawn the ore baron armor to see how strong it is
>its weaker than my unupgraded ancient ore armor
>that means i can use it and walk around looking like a fucking witcher without it feeling like cheating
nice
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>>740626141
How do I do that
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>>740634023
Why did you post this again
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>>740626141
the retards who dont like fog clearly dont live in similar regions to the places the games are set. i live on top of a mountain and if it even thinks about raining it gets so foggy you cant see 3 feet in front of you
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>>740634023
What's the code to spawn it?
Did you use a mod to access the console commands?
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>>740634103
dw ill post it again next thread for you
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So this was the dude from the demo? cool
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>still no mods to change your hair
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i killed mud :(
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>finally get magic
>charge a lightning ball
>literally takes 5 seconds for level 1
>theres 4 levels
>does less damage than a light sword swing of a 24 damage weapon
MAGIC IS SO ASS WHAT A WASTE OF TIME
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>>740633820
>Cheat Engine
>elitist cunt
then go to Nexus and download one of the fucking 5 mods that addresses this
RETARD
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>>740634156
they are too retarded to notice the ocean in the game
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Can I get a QRD on magic? I'm I locked out of spells because of different camps?
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>>740634387
same bro, i took him to the cave where nek died and killed him with my trusty axe. shan't be missed.
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why are 50 exp bloodflies more dangerous than orcs and all of their animals and even skeletons?
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>>740634193
Please, do. NTA
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>>740634939
Malaria is a hell of a disease
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>master 2h animations just turn you into geralt
i see why people say gothic inspired the witcher series. idk how the animations looked in the og but its uncanny
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>>740634592
no but water gets magic later than fire, swamp gets earliest magic not counting the free spell in the beginning but is limited to 4th circle
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>>740634592
I think the old camp gives you fastest access to magic
You have to go through the thug path before becoming a water mage in the new camp
In the swamp camp, you can't become a guru so you're limited to the fourth circle of magic
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>>740635413
you get basic magic access in the first 20 minutes of the game. you dont get proper magic in old camp until you kill the minecrawler queen and make it through the orc graveyard which is chapter 3 at that point
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>>740627559
>if you played the remake you played RE1.
No you didn't. REmake has completely different puzzles and different story, cutscenes and is significantly longer with the added stuff like Lisa Trevor and Crimson Heads than the original.
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>>740635129
>i see why people say gothic inspired the witcher series.
People don't just say that. CDPR's CEO publicly admitted to it: https://youtu.be/s2-sDeavkqU?t=1837
>Our gameplay goal and dream is to copy what we know from Gothic
lmao
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Is there anything equivalent to grenades in this game? Like something that I could use to stun bosses/strong enemies?
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So is magic shit? Will not buy if I can't be a cool wizard. It can't be worse than Morrowind's magic system can it? (inb4 some fags who never actually played Morrowind start sperging out over spell crafting memes)
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>>740635768
swing your sword
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>>740635917
Lame
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so sleeping is supposed to heal you? its been broken for me for days
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>>740625381
>>740625807
Mate you have spent four days crying about this 12+ hours a day and just replying to yourself. You are legitimately having a mental health crisis my man.

For the love of God I implore you to just go and spend a day playing the original Gothic or some shit and spend your time actually enjoying something before you wake up and realise you've wasted weeks, maybe months obsessing over this shit.

It's ok that you don't like the remake, it really is, but this isn't healthy dude.
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Can you beat the game only with crossbows?
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>>740636456
It has a cooldown
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so if im not a murder hobo / thief and dont want to deal with gomez for the ore armor whats the best armor in the game?
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>>740625043
Enjoying this game 6 hours in
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>>740632773
Imagine playing an rpg for less than 5hrs and then losing your mind because you can't open every chest immediately. These people are wild.
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>chapter 3
>feel like ive explored a good portion of the map
>look up enemy list
>getting fatigue fighting the same shit over and over
>ive seen maybe half of the enemies in the game
where the fuck even are they? im scouring everywhere
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>>740637037
Minecrawler plate
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>>740637149
They show up in later chapter. By chapter 3 you should start seeing orc hounds where wolves used to be and stuff like that.
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>>740637147
That is what skyrim does to a player base.
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>>740637147
It should be no surprise. Gamers can be unhinged as fuck. You should see the wall of texts people are putting on Steam Discussions to seethe as X or Y, because of bugs, or how the remake does "censorship" and the game sucks because of it. It's insane.
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>>740637254
>look it up
>its hideous
why cant the guard armor and shit be decent
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Is lockpicking worth training?
Do chests actually have valuable shit in them
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Does the alkimia overdose setting make any real difference for any of the graphics options?
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>>740637805
no
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i like the snow area
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>>740626141
getting rid of the fog completely breaks the visuals in some parts, lowering just enough to not turn the overworld into Silent Hill is the best course of actions.
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>>740625043
Test
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>nigger camp
What a total shithole this place is
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Why do fags like gothic, why shouldn't i just play BG3 again
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>>740639506
What you should do is play of ash and steel.
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>>740639506
I didn't play the original gothics, so its a new IP to me.
>play bg3 again
Why would you replay an rpg after you've finished it?
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>>740639746
>Why would you replay an rpg after you've finished it?
Bruh please be joking
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My pc can't push this game much past 60 fps but for an open world unreal engine game this is suprisingly stutter free.
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>>740625043
Is it fine to give the letter to the mage guy at the door or should I give it to torrez? Does it affect anything?
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>>740639643
Unless they overhaul act 1 to give you atleast a shitty map of the island I'm not reinstalling.
I'm not expecting a Ubishit tier full map with all points of interest pre-marked in a Gothic clone but no map until you choose a faction is bullshit.
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Just finished
Last battle was fine, but lasted too long. I eould much have prefered if one of the stages was repaced with group fight against the novices
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>>740640745
You can get a map within 10 mins after starting. That being said, you sound like you have no tolerance for games that expect a little more agency so dont bother
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>supporting a developer who doubles the price on their old series in the last year
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>>740625043
So is G2 remake confirmed or what
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>>740642305
For sure, they already teased Claw of Beliar in game. No point in making the model if you dont plan to use it in its actual game
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>>740635886
early game magic is really good. mid game magic is really bad. late game magic is overpowered.
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Unironically blast having bros.

I have killed a few people (Mud is one of them, does he involve any quests? Fucker just kept following me so I just murdered him out of the camp)
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>>740637805
level 1 lockpicking training is worth it. some of the chests have really good loot in them. I found 2 rings of iron skin from locked chests like 3 hours into the game which gave me 20/20 slash/blunt defense basically same as the 300 ore armor in chapter 1.
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>too poor to buy a map
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>>740642102
Where? I played for hours and when I finally looked it up, every source said maps only in act 2 (after choosing a faction) and onwards.
I played every PB game and enjoyed most of them but this was too much "hardcore" gayming.
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>>740643346
where did you get this picture of me
Also if you get Diego's quest to prove yourself, the map guy gives you a free one (or I remember it being free namedropping him; this time I just bought it earlier)
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>>740643385
theres a cartographer in old camp who sells the map of the valley for like 40 ore
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>>740643385
his name is graham, he hangs out by the wash area in the mornings in the inner ring.
he also sells the blank parchment to make scrolls.

i really, really hope the dev's don't nerf the game to appease people like you. (not being shitty; well not THAT shitty. But things like the lockpicking or combat are just fine the way they are, making it easier for skyrim people would be a travesty)
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>chapter 2 done
>time to choose between warders and fire mages
>fire mages says "no"
done for the day, but if fire mages are also now delayed, what is the point of going for the old camp? because at this point i am more of an archer than a mage
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>>740643719
>i really, really hope the dev's don't nerf the game to appease people like you
the game has already been pre-nerfed for people like that anon. original map was just a jpg and you had to figure out where you were on the map. new map is the usual video game map that shows where you are and the direction youre facing.
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>>740643793
O shit good to know.
So new camp and old camp are now functionally the same.

I mean the original really dod converge on magic lategame whatever playstyle you chose. And had mage as the most powerful being both lore wise and mechanically but that's not a good change imo
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where is the quest marker? I think my copy is busted.
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>>740625381
dropped
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>>740643385
>>740643507
There seems to be a misunderstanding.
I was talking about Of Ash and Steel and its lack of a map in Act 1.
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>>740644050
Oh! sorry anon, my bad.
Yes, that's obnoxious. mainly because you are in fact playing as a cartographer.

did they ever fix the road signs? it's impossible to tell at intersections which sign is pointing where.
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are people somehow under the impression that this doesn't totally suck?
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>>740644194
yes, it's fantastic.
what's your point?
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>>740643793
I became a fire mage at the start of chapter 3, first thing I did
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>>740643971
if you become a fire mage, then after the chapter 3 canon event you can talk to saturus, then thorus, then saturus again, to become a water mage
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>>740644194
are you under the impression that anyone other than the people grooming you on Discord give a single shit about your retarded opinions?
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>>740628120
based and true, theres a reason good remakes are rare
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>>740644194
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All I feel reading this thread is an intense desire to play the original, non-remake version for the first time
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PA-KAAAAAH!
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>>740645223
you do you as it is a great game, but you're not really gaining anything here by doing that since this remake is very faithful
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>>740625043
>77k peak
goddamn
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>>740626141
Holy shit, you can actually see more than one colour at once now.
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Hey fuck off I need that guy for a quest
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>I killed a templar and a guy with him with better templar armor
>two swords I can't use
t...thanks you too
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Are the controls just as fucking retarded as the originals?
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>>740625807
When gothic 1 came out originally BDSM was in style. These days zoomers don't really even know what BDSM is except in vague ambiguities and consultants don't really know what to recommend when they advise on designing these things.

Its beyond them that maybe the original outfits should be copied over in their original style except using high res assets.

In any case, Gothic 1 is actually not that good a game to get too worked up over. I have good memories playing it when I was a teen but I've never really felt the urge to go and replay it. And I still don't, but it would help if they didn't drag all this through a culture-war social media engagement cycle and just provided the original slutty outfits to begin with.
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>>740647584
>i don't like the game but here's a wall of text and also I'm fucking wrong and either replying to my own post or too retarded to understand that the picture is using 7 year old shit from the proof of concept because I love swallowing troll cock
lol
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>>740625043
Is there any fix for the contrast/crushed blacks yet? I sort of get what they were going for, but it's hard to see anything in a lot of buildings/caves or shadowed areas, and the fact that there's so many near-black shadows in broad daylight is just... off. Maybe it looks better on an LCD monitor?
Seems to be made worse when enabling HDR, and the "interior exposure" option doesn't fix all of it.
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so i found the first shrine from trials by fire on chapter 1 and lit it with a torch, turns out if you do that, once you get the quest in chapter 3, you can't light it with the scroll. meaning you are softlocked and can't join the fire mages. so yeah, PSA if you find something too early, don't mess with it, is not a puzzle is 30 hours down the drain
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It was never clear to me, because I never played as a mage, but can you join the Water Mages right at the start when joining the New Camp, or do you have to go with that song and dance of joining the Fire Mages, then Water Mages, then Xardas everytime?
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>>740648531
try shooting it with ice
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>>740648994
does nothing, it's an actual soflock, the quests doesn't update and it doesn't count
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>>740625513
I still think the old demon design was better in spite of the goofy snarling face.
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https://youtu.be/CU3LR2bkZS8?is=N6siQd6Q7etv3vmi
And as per tradition, Gothic is once again technologically one step ahead of Elder Scrolls.
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why do these NPCs keep talking about me beating up diggers
I never attacked one
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>finish act 1 at lvl8
>join the Old Camp
>improve my armor straight away
>beat the shit out of Bullit and take his sword
>learn master 1handed
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>>740647753
set contrast to - 30 and bump saturation by 10 to 20+
also you can lower brightness a tad
now game is playable
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Bros should i restart? im playing a game but i miss str build, beating people up so i can get silas axe and then lees axe so i can be op from chapter 1
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>>740625807
I'm not buying it until the vest comes off of Velaya. Simple as.
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>>740649848
mage*
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how do you increase magic damage?
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>wandering around
>enter a snowy area with shitload of tundra wolves and icy shadowbeast
>somehow manage to kill them all
>find 'an exit' from somewhere, elevated stone platform too tall to climb on, with visible wall climb textures above it + some ladders and path with wooden bridge farther on
>can't find the entrance
>decide to abuse geometry, hopping around like a bunny on swampweed
>no luck
>rummage through shitload of scrolls I hoarded so far hoping for flight or teleportation
>no luck again
>notice a bunch of animal transformation scrolls
>there's a bloodfly scroll
>BINGO
>spawn purple gate of hell with chains dragging my body inside and turn into bloodfly
>can only fly up and down a bit
>still missing a meter of height to reach the platform
>try starting from elevated platform which is farther away
>when there's no terrain under the fly it starts floating down slowly so that one is no go
>finally manage to find some protruding boulders nearby and with maximum flight height barely reach the platform
>OH BOY HERE WE GO!
In the end the narrow path led to some ancient stone temple exit with iron grates that can only be opened from the inside but I found a heavy crossbow with 106 damage (for which I don't have nearly enough DEX yet ) so it wasn't a complete bust.
I think I found the entrance too, not far from the Old Camp with bunch of goblins and adult troll I can't touch but there's a gate with two levers that need to be pulled simultaneously so I couldn't get inside (tried telekinesis scroll but it did nothing).
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one of the devs / cm acknowledged it, so maybe it will be fixed in the next patch. meanwhile bricked until further notice: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofgothic/comments/1tzphgw/bug_warning_gamebreaking_softlock_in_trial_of/
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>>740650331
Cast harder.
Some spells can be charged, like lightning ball.
Didn't find any 'makes fireball hit for twice as many hit points' upgrades for non chargeable spells yet.
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>>740625451
It's an earlier example of access journalism. It was popular in Europe, but in America the gaming media went out of its way to bury it because the devs barely spoke any english and couldn't give exclusive interviews and access to the game to the english speaking press. In fact they did a lot of that with german speaking gaming media.
The series fell apart by the third game though due to the publisher being stupid and cutting their budget short mid development for absolutely no reason, even though the expected product was going to be amazing had they continue to be able to actually finish it.
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>>740629967
Most of the bugs could be mitigated by using a save rotation system. Even back then the vidya community hated good games.
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>sell swamp weed to Cipher
>sell the weed you get from a Baal in the tavern to Cipher
>suddenly no more financial problems
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>>740645032
>ALL remakes are bad
>based and true
>good remarks are rare
ho do you switch to schizo so fast?
teach me
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>>740625451
It's the very definition of eurojank and was popular here especially in east europe.
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Gothic 4 remake when?
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>>740650771
Also, in the same year, Morrowind happened. And the American journalists focused on that. And it's a shame, because it would've blown their mind to see how much more technologically advanced Gothic was.
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>>740651004
you've got to be trolling
Gothic was a neat little game but it cannot be even compared to Morrowind, which is superior on another fucking level in every single way
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I have no idea what this game even is. Its like...Oblivion except the skill points are limited...?
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The "is it shit" curator told me that this is shit. They can't be wrong.
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Who can give me some more jobs in New Camp?

Did Lefty's bottle job.
Worked as bouncer because Rice Lord asked me to.
Killed a dam lurker.
Solved a missing person mystery for Rice Lord.
Lares-semapi finally looked my way and asked me to scam weed seller guy and bring him $400
Did all that but he still doesn't allow me to join his crew.
Asks me to do more for New Camp.
Talked to loads of people but didn't find anything.
Mercenaries tell me to fuck off and ask Lares for job.
Can't enter mage area, invite only.
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>>740628116
Is there a yellow paint option too?
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>>740651081
Morrowboomers really are the most delusional people around, holy shit
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>>740651081
Oh, please.
https://youtu.be/1PcUQQOODv0?is=A25aHyKs3gNJFrmC
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>>740651004
Morrowind came out a year later, actually.
>>740651081
>fully voice acted
>NPCs have a patrol routine following the day and night cycle
>story progression changes what the NPCs are up to
>one (1) singular loading screen because the devs knew that the consoles at the time were fucking shit
lol
lmao even
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>>740651519
Did Gothic even release on any console?
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>>740651221
>singular they
Trooney, are you okay?
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>>740651580
Nope. The devs wouldn't compromise on the singular loading screen. It had a medium to heavy system requirement for the time though. A lot of poors were mad.
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Is it just me or higher circle magic (3/4) is kinda ass and the best dmg is still the level 1 fire/cold arrows? Any rune above level 1 circle locks you in place and require long pre-casting, while the basic ass level 1 fire/cold arrows you can spam non stop with no cast time and move while casting lol. The higher circle magic is only good as one time opener before mobs aggro.
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>>740651698
>higher circle magic (3/4)
Still in chapter one so I don't have access but I got bunch of scrolls with lightning ball that can be charged 4 levels which also stun the target allowing for another long cast afterwards.
3 scrolls took like 60% of shadowbeast's HP bar while stream of fireballs didn't even scratch it.
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>>740634939
Different damage type
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>>740651628
>a medium to heavy system requirement
When gothic 2 came out the game would destroy the strongest PCs on the market, if it came out today it would be called unoptimized trash.
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>>740651081
Obviously Morrowind is better. Gothic keepa you a prisoner and doesnt give you freedom
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>>740634939
they use the same damage type as ranged weapons, and most armor has way lower defense against that than normal melee attacks
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>>740651825
...NTA, but I forgot about different damage types.
I remember on my first playthrough, I was an untouchable melee god, because I maxed out the slashing resistance, but that one mission in the New Camp mine that's filled with Old Camp snipers that deal massive piercing damage filtered the shit out of me, because I neglected piercing resistance altogether.
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>>740651873
To be fair, Gothic 2 also looked significantly better than Morrowind.
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>>740625043
So what's new besides graphics changes? Did they fix the janky ass controls?
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It's refreshing when women dont play any role in the story for once
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>>740652071
Yes, they did. Kinda.
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>>740651873
True. And those were the CD days too, so there weren't any official patches for it. Fans made some patches here and there, but I don't recall anything too popular until Gothic 3, where the game was literally unplayable without the fan patch even on the newest high end gaming PCs. IIRC the fans just put up with it for the first two games, but the bigger modder websites are probably still up due to nostalgia autism. You could probably look that up.
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>>740651916
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>>740652096
It's funny that Bezi continues to be fixated on Velaya for some reason.
Was there some cut content with her that never made it into the game? Because he's really interested in her.
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>>740651816
>3 scrolls took like 60% of shadowbeast's HP bar while stream of fireballs didn't even scratch it.
that's because enemies have flat defense thresholds. if shadowbeast has 50 fire resistance and your fire bolt does 40 damage you only deal 1 damage. whereas if fireball is 120 fully charged thats 120-50, so 70 damage.
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>>740652146
There were patches for it but they'd be distributed online on whichever website was dedicated to the game, which people would then distribute in other places etc. There was no other way to do it as steam wasn't really a thing back then.
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>>740652243
The flat defense thresholds were fun, because they apply to the player as well. At some point you can crank up your defences so high, nobody can hurt you.
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There's one thing Gothic 3 did better than 1 and 2, and it's making food and potions heal a percentage rather than flat values. Once you reach a decent level you need to eat half a ton of meat to heal yourself, it's just annoying and tedious. Same goes for potions, what the fuck am I supposed to do with a health potions that restores 30 health?
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I'm not a gothic gamer. I have 0 knowledge of this franchise or its userbase. But I've watch a few people play this game and I'm genuinely confused on why they are struggling with the lockpicking. It seems pretty simple in design. Kind of just trial and error to figure out the correct moves and you can savescum it to save lockpicks. Why are people crying about it this much?
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>>740625381
Both old and new are ugly though?
That's just how germ women look
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>>740652458
eh, I think it's a neat progression, by beginning you heal with cheap food, by the end only best of potions
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Gothic 1/2 was pretty tough on your hardware but only if you tried to run it with all your LODs set to max. It wasn't really that big of a deal otherwise.
G2 had F keys bound to LOD presets specifically, so you could toggle between draw distances. (f1-f4 iirc).
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>>740652243
>>740652404
guess that explains why scavengers do shit all to me after I got couple of defense rings and defense focused amulet
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>>740652462
because sometimes you need 60 moves and some chests ale plain unopenable, all after maxing out lockpicking skill
original just had little neat memorization lockpicking
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>>740652462
We are talking about a time of gamer thar is crying about not having a compass and quest marker - case in point: PC Gamer. And you are surprised about someone is bitching that they have to solve a logic puzzle?
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>>740652509
Thanks for the trivia unc
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>>740652462
Tbh it's a stupid minigame for the sake of pulling your attention away from putting learning points to where they actually matter. The original lockpicking system was also more of a trial and error thing than anything else but never this convoluted or frustrating. It's just a waste of time.
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>>740652458
Don't remember what was best consumable in G1 but in G2 you can go from eating meat that restores 12 hp to using spell scrolls or runes of healing that restore 200/400/800 hp or just 100% hp regen from full life potion. It was a steady progression you'd only need to spend lots of time eating if you're not using available resources you always end these games with hundreds of unspent potions.
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>>740652512
Yeah, be prepared that by the end of the game you'll be literally playing on god mode. And this doesn't even require some crazy min-maxing build.
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>>740652458
To be fair, the games always had save scumming and consequence free full healing when sleeping. Don't get into fights where you need to heal too much.
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>>740625043
GOTY of the year, guaranteed.
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>>740652573
As far as I can tell all chests are openable.
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>>740652789
try doors above marketplace, after maxing out skill 2 plates start already blocking each other and no other plate moves them
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>>740652824
lel I think I know what happened.
>Devs autogenerate puzzles by randomizing connections and shuffling locks backwards from the starting position
>Improving lockpicking skill removes some connections between plates
>Surely all it will do is make the puzzles easier
>Right?
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>>740652971
yeah I suspect same thing
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If you're struggling with picking locks
https://gothic-remake.wikily.gg/lockpick-solver
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>>740653224
Just get a mod to auto-solve
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who teaches now how to get minecrawler insides?
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So is it good? Only answer if you played the original.
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>>740653512
no
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>>740653467
If you're looking for the gland for bestiary III quest you need to progress the main story till you get a quest to kill the big mama minecrawler.
Small ones don't drop the gland.
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So, chapter 3 progression seems to be broken for a lot of people.
I joined the Swamp Camp, became a Templar, and are now supposed to meet Saturas at the tower ruin at the northern edge of the map, but he never shows up. Everybody else from your gang is there, just not him.
I don't want to go to the New Camp and try to talk to him there, because I really don't want to brick my save 30+ hours in.

WHY THE FUCK IS SONY HOLDING BACK THE PATCH?
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>>740653512
Yes.
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>>740653560
yeah I wonder about small ones since old npc dude doesn't teach it anymore
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>>740653512
maybe
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>>740653512
pokaż mi swoje towary
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>>740653579
they have siesta now
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>>740653579
>now supposed to meet Saturas at the tower ruin
You're supposed to meet Lester and the other 3 friends, not Saturas. That lazy digger never leaves the water mage quarter.
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>aris flushed gothic r
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>>740653623
Lester is still standing at the temple entrance in the swamp camp with no dialog options..
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>>740653579
>WHY THE FUCK IS SONY HOLDING BACK THE PATCH?
???
1.003 dropped for PS5 on sunday, fixed some things and fucked up other things
why do you think sony's sitting on the next one?
was it revealed to you in a dream?
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>>740653712
you need to talk to the water mages in new camp
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>>740653768
Was just skimming the steam forums, and some there say that Sony won't greenlight the next patch or something like that.
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>>740653512
it's okay but doesnt replace the original. too many changes.
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>>740653815
I know that this can be a possible fix, but many say they immediately aggro the mercs at the entrance to the water mages, and the quest log still just tells me I should go to the tower.
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>>740653579
Why the fuck would you own a ps5? Or buy games on consoles?
What is wrong with YOU?
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>>740625451
>never heard of gothic
holy newnigger, kill yourself faggot
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>>740653843
>Sony won't greenlight the next patch or something

> A word on upcoming patch from THQ Nordic!
>We promised patch news asap and here you go!
>We are currently waiting to hear back from Sony as we are awaiting final checks from them on a patch for PS5 and PS5 Pro that should take care of crashes and savegame issues on those platforms.
>Patch will be deployed as soon as possible after Sony approval.
>More information about patches for other platforms will come during the week
So Sony is making sure they don't fuck up even more and PC fags seethe about it.
Nothing new.
>>740654009
>denuvo
>ring 0 spyware/malware
>every major release for PC is half broken shit requiring months of patches
>multiplayer games are choke full of cheaters because it's so much easier to run shit on open platform
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>>740653926
the mercs will stop you but your guy will say that the mages are expecting you. that's how it went for me. I had the same bug where lester skipped dialogue, marked my map and got locked there.
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>>740654137
I'll give it a shot, thanks.
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>>740628263
HGSS are not better than the originals. Persona 3 Reload is not better than the OG.
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>>740654116
gothic is on gog so can be bought for free with no denuvo and downsides.
There's no reason to get it on ps5
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>>740634023
>modern soulless UI
Why do they all do this holy shit. The Oblivion Remaster at least left some flavor in the UI.
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>>740625043
how buggy is it?
I have several games in a backlog but I loved g2 notr and the fanmade Archolos but never played 1 so idk if I should prioritie the remake or let them bake for a few months more
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>>740625043
I wonder why when Elden Ring do it, it looks beautiful, and when Gothic 1 do it, it's soulless
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Ah look it's the unc thread , full of 40 year old boomers. Sup guys hows the imaginary wife doing
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>>740654293
I'd wait. Im waiting myself for 2 months at least
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Umm, so where is the promised patch? They said on Twitter that a new fixing patch will release on monday, played whole day after work yesterday and not a single update on steam. Looked the steam site up on phone and it seems there's still no patch.
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>>740654283
No one ever gave a shit about the UI in Gothic. In the original the inventory is horrible.
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>>740654454
>original bad remake good
classic
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>>740654246
There's no reason to buy shitty buggy game made by inept devs on platform with millions of HW variations that can fuck you over in unexpected ways.
Also not going to upgrade my potato excel machine for janky ass game even if it is full of soul.
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>>740651251
Ask mordrag to take you from old camp to new camp, he will give you a ring
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>>740653512
The demo had weird controls, but I haven't bought the finished product yet. Maybe it's better now, I don't know. I preferred the original clunky controls with the forced mosue highlight and all that bullshit. I'll pick up the remake once somebody makes a clunky control mod for it.
They also need to do this first, because fuck them. >>740649875
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>>740654365
Im 31 though
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>>740653579
>waiting for AA console patches on launch
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>740654518
Shit, I 'solved' Mordrag because he pissed of Thores.
Had to find new NC fence for Fisk too because he was pissed I chased Mordrag off.
Guess I fucked my self over.
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>>740654490
>pretending to care about inconsequential shit just to have a chance to be mad and and stirr up trouble
Classic
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>>740654305
Color palette and color theory. There are a lot of videos about that on YouTube specifically regarding Elden Ring.
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>>740654601
I think you still should be able to join though, but im at work and my memory is too shit to help
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>>740654454
>In the original the inventory is horrible.
Remake inventory is not that stellar too.
Every game with shitload of items has SORT function, that would help a bit.
The filters for item types are ok but the whole inventory in one table is messy.
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>>740654490
The UI in Gothic 1 WAS terrible. I still love the game though. Played the shit out of it 15+ years ago
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>>740625373
I'm playing it on my 10y old 1080, not ti..
Works perfectly fine for me...
But I might also be a madman.
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>>740654556
Sure you are, man. Sure .
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>>740654738
Yeah. First time I played Gothic 1 was when I was around 8-9 when I saw my friend's brother playing it. My family couldnt afford a pc at that point.
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>>740652462
A lot of them don't even understand what they are supposed to be doing. I saw one guy say "there's not enough information" and "it doesn't tell you what to do!". He didn't even know you had to move the pins to the center of the plates. A lot of people are just stupid; they can't deduce things by trial/error and experimentation. People are inpatient and entitled, as well.
>>740652573
This is just bullshit. All chests are unlockable and 60 moves @ max skill is an exaggeration.
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>>740654305
Don't want to be 'it's supposed to look like shit' guy but Elden Ring shows you ethereal realm of Gods while Gothic has locked you in a small prison colony full of smelly men, garbage and normal ruins instead of epic castles.
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>>740654698
the formatting was made for the controls. moving items left to right to left made sense. and you got cool rotating 3d objects in your inventory. I played it back then and liked it and still like it.
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>>740654823
Aight gramps i believe you
;)
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Shouldn't I be able to join water mages in chapter 4? Became a fire mage, chapter 4 happened, so I should be able to join water mages or new camp, right? But I talked to all the npcs and none of them give me any options to join. So I won't be able to level my magic circle or one handed combat anymore?
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>>740654365
>full of 40 year old boomers
boomers are 62+ years old
40 years old would be millenials
t.Captain Obvious, leader of Pedant Corps
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>>740653650
that guy and his chat have the IQ of a molerat
slow burn games seem antithetical to his stream
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>>740655160
Gothic remake is a good way to filter out streamers and see which ones are actually old timers rpg players, and which ones are larpers that have attention span of 5 min and give up on the game because of difficulty / no hand holding.
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can't believe /v/ likes this absolute dogshit of a remake

even if you ignore that it's completely broken and ridden with bugs and garbage AI, the combat, which is the most important part, is tragic
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>>740625381
>>740625807
chudbros... we lost again...
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>>740655393
> garbage AI,
Dont threaten me with a good time :)
Off to reddit with you now, luddite
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>>740655393
It's cause they're all boomers their critical thinking is deteriorating
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>15 hours
>just now I'm joining a camp
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>>740653512
It's not the best thing that happened to Gothic recently (that'd be Archolos) but it's still damn good and keeps the spirit of the game. Solid foundation for G2R.
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>>740655543
>27 hours, level 15
>still roaming
it's fun
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>>740655302
>no hand holding
There's handholding, just not as blatant as in every other game from the genre.
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>>740655393
I think the zoomies and people that never played original (mostly amerimutts) won't like the game all probably. The game was massive in Europe, mainly Germany, Poland an other Eastern euros, where every guy in ranges 25-40 was no lifing gothics as a kid. Devs didn't even run any meaningful marketing campaign for the game, it was aimed at dudes that had nostalgia and the game marketed itself via words of mouths. As someone who was playing gothics non stop as a kid, I like the remake. And the original was buggy/junky too so...
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>>740655543
Its only downhill from there
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>>740655687
Compared to modern audience standard of each fucking quests having a special quest marker on your screen and on your map, with side characters talking to you as guides, having to actually listen and finding out locations yourself is beyond modern zoomie gamers capabilities.
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How does pickpocketing work? Like in G2? Or did they come up with another stupid minigame for it?
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I wish DSP would play this game. On console.
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>>740655694
>The game was massive in Europe, mainly Germany, Poland an other Eastern euros, where every guy in ranges 25-40 was no lifing gothics as a kid.
I actually because an anti-Gothic fan after a while, because every guy in high school was gushing how awesome this game was, when I preferred to play Fallout 2 and Baldur's Gate.
But no, Gothic is a good game, but for some reason Poles very unhealthily obsessed with it.
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>>740655824
That would be too kino, actually...
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>>740653512
Ja
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>>740655694
>>740655513
I am one of those boomers that played original and is a fan of the series.

The combat is literally worse than original. The attack animations are clunky and terrible to navigate, the combat with humans is basically turn-based - you block, attack, block, attack, and don't even get me started with this shitty block on monsters you can do now, even fucking trolls or shadowbeasts. It's so bad.

>>740655508
>Dont threaten me with a good time
I don't mean that monsters behave in funny ways sometimes kind of silly AI. I mean that you can literally beat the shit out of gomez at level 8, take his shit and then and take the magic rune armour from his chest(why is it there lol) and you won't be killed for it, just beaten up.

Or you can beat up everyone in the swamp camp and they suddenly stop attacking you and don't care that you beat up 20 guys.

The basic AI that worked 20 years ago in original is not even there.
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>>740625289
Well you're in luck.
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>>740625043
>wait fucking forever for night to turn to day because I can't see past my torch
>immediately storms after daybreak and I just can't see at all, period
>first encounter with remade swamp camp ruined
It's been like 10 years since I've played G1 I don't remember where to sleep the UE5 effects are fucking filtering me aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa is there a mod for this shit yet
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>>740655886
It was the dub
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>>740655979
There are three beds you can use in the swamp camp. One is directly at the stairs to the Templar training area if you approach it from the forge. One is at the very top of those tree huts, and one is outside the camp in a shack near the swamp ruins with the giant tree.
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I really wish G2 remake happens at some point. Because seeing Jarkendar would be fun.
Also, they might add some stuff from Gothic Sequel, because why the hell not?
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>>740655979
I just used that mod which turns most of that stuff off.
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Snaff says EAT THE BUGS!
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>>740655886
It was one of the view rpgs that had actual full voice acting instead of text reading. In case of Poland, it having a polish voice acting in itself was something unique, and the voice acting was pretty good with lines of NPCs becoming part of Polish slang lol.
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>>740654854
Also, in the glossary there is a section on lockpicking minigame and it literally tells you how the thing works in like 3 sentences. Zoomer's time must be very valuable if they can't use 10 seconds to open a menu and read how something works. I understand somewhat though I guess imagine growing up playing games where u never had to look anything up to intuit how something worked almost immediately - anything less would get on your nerves.
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>>740655998
BG1 is also dubbed in Poland.
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>>740655806
U have to sneak up on a guy who's sleeping and hold F to pull his pants down and then hit a certain button combo prompt to suck the shit directly from his ass. Only then will u even get the chance to pick his pockets. But if he shits or farts while you're combo'ing the jig is up.
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>>740656532
I remember having a polish friend back in the day who told me about how this usually worked with TV shows and movies in many eastern european countries. About them just being dubbed over by a single guy who just reads the transcript in the most boring way possible. Fucking hilarious.
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>>740656598
>glossary
If devs weren't retards, they'd do a pop up taking you to Glossary first time you encounter lock pick or put a (read Glossary entry about lock picking) button in lock picking UI.
Despite the claim to the contrary there's still plenty of hand holding so why not do something like this?
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>>740656197
The sequel's story was never finished but I think it would be possible to implement and still keep the story of 2 mostly intact. The main thing about the sequel is that despite the barrier falling they're still stuck in the valley due to orcs. And by 2 orcs have taken over much of it.
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>>740656759
stalker in polish is dubbed like that it's kino
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>>740656773
They realized the necessity of having info like that accessible in the game but were afraid of the backlash from boomers if its existence was highlighted. So they hid it.
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>>740656532
Actually no, the Polish dub was only a small part of it. Because back in 2000's most videogames released in Poland had a quality dubbing, thanks to that then small company known as CDProjekt. Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, Diablo 2, Warcraft 3, Icewind Dale, The Longest Journey, Heroes 3, 4 and 5 were all excellently dubbed. Does anyone remember the eXtra Klasyka series? Gothic caught on, because it was both cheap and could run on a potato PC, unlike Morrowind.
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>>740656759
Yes, sometimes, if you were attentive enough that is, you could hear the reader turn pages.
>>740656908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIj8K3HbCoo
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>>740654601
Diego sends you to get a list, talk to Lares once you have it
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>>740656759
Yeah, it's called a lektor. But it's only for TV. We kinda wanted to get rid of it a while ago, but boomers are so attached to it, they don't want to get rid of this kind of dub. Mostly, because they consider actual dub something that only cartoons do.
I remember my mom didn't want to watch The Lord of the Rings on Bluray, because it only had subtitles and the regular dubbing, and she wanted a lektor, that DVD/Bluray releases don't have, BECAUSE IT'S STUPID.
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>>740657131
fuck you, they are kino
subs>lektor>>>>>>>>>>>>>dub
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>>740657112
>another missed opportunity
I faithfully returned the list from the mine to Old Camp because in the end I want to join Old Camp.
I only do other camps' admission quests for extra exp and rewards.
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>>740657212
rip
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>>740657212
Not your fault man. For most of us it's intuitive because we played the OG game for hundreds of hours. All part of learning the game
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>>740625513
his voice was such garbage, much preferred the silent telepathy
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>>740656759
it's done in western media too but only for documentaries. like a travel show with foreigner saying whatever and the narrator just talks over him
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>>740657254
>>740657304
No biggie, I'll just murder some more beasts, it's probably time to move to chapter 2 anyway.
But it's so much fun to roam the land, so many caves and ruins and hidden stuff.
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>>740653650
>munmun didn't and he expressed interest in the OG
based adulterer
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>>740626809
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>>740657413
I thought the nostalgia critic was gonna pop out
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You guys are shitting on Mikołajczak for his performance in the remake, but IMO Xardas is way worse. I get that Marzecki is 80 years old at this point, but tone down the rasp, man.
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>>740627962
It hates us all which is why we love it.
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>>740657496
I think it suits him, fits his image as an old and mysterious evil wizard.
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>>740629386
The camp or he might also be in the tavern.
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where's cronos? I thought he'd be at grate over the ore mound, but the fags not there
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Hng, why is the first tier of the templar armor so fucking gay?
Here's a tip for any aspiring templar: Stay bare-chested or invest the extra ore to get some fucking shoulder pads.
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I prefer Gothic 2 to 1, so I hope we'll get a sequel eventually.
Because fuck you, dragons are awesome.
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>>740657703
Must be wandering at times, first time I went there I couldn't find him, second time he was there as expected
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>>740634939
point damage type, not much resistances against it
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They really need to fix the torches. In 2026 it should be possible to carry a torch and weapon at the same time. Gothic 3 had it too.
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>>740657807
Those dragons (battles with them) were dogshit but G2 mogs 1 in many ways. Khorinis is just a very soulful place. I never liked the Valley of Mines that much.
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I need a fucking solver to unlock shit in castle AAAA
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How the FUCK do I complete Dusty's request to fuck off from the old Camp? MC says he has to check something with the Gurus but I have no idea wtf that means.
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>>740658015
Talk to Melvin and Baal Tondral at the swamp camp
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>>740658015
Go to Marvin in the Swamp Camp. He's a friend of Dusty and tells you to tell Dusty to join him in the Swamp Camp. It's also part of the quest to impress one of the Baals (the one next to Marvin). You'll need 100 ore though to bribe the guards so Dusty can leave the camp.
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>>740658015
>How the FUCK do I complete Dusty's request to fuck off from the old Camp?
Which part exactly?
Dusty told me the guards at the south gate are willing to let people through for a bribe and it just worked.
Had to fork over 100 ore IIRC.
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>>740658150
*Melvin
I keep fucking that up..
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>>740657848
>>740657703
Cronos will eat his meal with the other Water Mages upstairs, around mid day. Btw, anybody know who can teach me to increase my mana outside the WM?
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>>740658015
Talk to Dusty at OC
Talk to Melvin at SC
Bring Dusty to SC
Talk to Guru in charge of recruitment
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>can peak into bath
and this is that woke game I heard so much about?
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>>740658195
People in the Swamp Camp?
IIRC, they were the only faction that were great for a magic knight build.
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>>740658138
>>740658150
>>740658157
I already found Melvin but when I offer my dude Dusty to fuck off, MC says something about Gurus. Might not have enough money. I'll see.
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>>740657972
Download a mod that highlights your next lockpicking move
I did
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>>740658195
One of the swamp camp gurus.
You need to do couple of things so they even start talking to you though.
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>>740658236
The lady is not naked. 0/10.
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>>740658241
I am going full mage but I want to level up my mana before I join the old Camp proper. Will the swamp camp teach me before I join or will I be stuck at 10 meagre mana?
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>>740658251
can you link it? I give up being a good boy
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>>740658236
Sometimes when you peak long enough, you might see two girls going wild. Those are just rumors though...
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>>740658302
I don't remember, because it's been 15 years, but I don't think so, unless the remake changed something.
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hey
>turns around
HEY
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>>740658302
>Will the swamp camp teach me
Yes.
The same guru that can also teach you to make scrolls.
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>>740658308
https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/29
I also recommend the steathe your torch mod
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>>740658249
You might need to start the swamp camp initiation quest to impress the baals first. Baal Tondral will approach you and preach about the sleeper, after that he wants you to get more people to join the camp. That should trigger MC to tell Dusty to go to the Swamp Camp.
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>>740658302
>I am going full mage
it's pretty shit desu, you get shit all spells early on so you just kill everything with a weapon and then in chapter 3 you unlock 3rd circle and play with godmode
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>>740658302
Swamp camp guru can level up your mana but there's a rule you can't even talk to gurus unless they talk to you first.
Talk to the novices around the camp.
One of them will tell you how to make gurus talk to you.
The 'magic' guru for example gets impressed if you use sleep scroll on one of his students during his lecture and he'll start talking to you.
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>>740658302
The Cor in the training area can teach str, dex, and mana. Not the black guy, the other one.. Forgot the name.
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gothicfags have absolutely no standards if any other game was relased in this state they would screech
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>>740658431
looks like they used Notr mage balance, which is one of the worst I've ever played.
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>>740658302
Torrez in the old camp if you did his quest
Baal Cadar in the swamp if you got him to talk to you
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>>740658489
>>740658458
>>740658431
Thanks for the help. Did my first playthrough as a merc but I always like magic more. I even put the game into hard mode combat wise.
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>>740658593
No he won't. He just lets me buy stuff after I got my novice magic and rune stone from him.
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Is Ulu-mulu still in the game?
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>>740658656
Yeah, so don't sell the Troll Tooth or shadow beast horn after you get them. No idea where the Swampshark mother is though.
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>>740658554
SOUL >>>>>>>>>>>> reliability and non-jankiness
it's that shrimple
GothicChads are enlightened beings elevated above such base desires
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>>740658554
In what state exactly?
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You know, I always hear about how people here in Poland are gloomy and angry while Americans are joyous and smile all the time but I'm seeing the opposite. When Americans don't like a minor thing about a remake they will have a huge outrage, mass downvote and reviewbomb anything about it and basically turn the remake in question into a meme. Meanwhile Poles were generally respectful towards the Gothic remake even when the only thing we had was the abysmal playable teaser. They provided feedback, told the devs what they don't like, actually gave good ratings to the teaser despite knowing it was trash just so the devs would know everyone would love a Gothic remake if it was actually good and boom, we actually got a good remake
The moral: be less angry
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>>740658932
The absolute state of Unreal.
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>>740659008
I hate UE and Unity as much as the next guy, but the remake is still very good.
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>>740659070
Yeah, pretty much all its flaws can be followed back to UE.
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>you can get struck by lightning during a storm
holy kino
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>>740659141
How much damage
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>>740658990
You know, it's less about nationality and more about providing constructive criticism.
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>>740659173
10 *iggawats
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>>740659190
Then why are americans so bad at providing constructive criticism? They did nothing but scream about their retarded culture war
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>>740659252
anon it's an eurojank game, of course the twitter gaymers would be hopelessly lost and deeply confused
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>>740659120
I mean, what did you expect? Them to create their own engine to create the remake fully on their own?
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>>740659391
please understand, /v/ lacks this kind of critical thinking
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>>740659391
Well, is there a better engine to use, something suitable for Gothic? Surely UE and Unity aren't the only ones for sale in the world.
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>>740658554
I beat gothic 3 on release, I don't give a shit.
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>>740658554
I've had 0 crashes and 0 gamebreaking bugs so far. It's been great for me so far. The playable demo ran like shit.
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>>740659437
You tell me, anon.
>>740659431
I think it's just that some people's expectations dont line up with reality. I didnt expect to be pleasantly surprised by the remake, but here I am.
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>>740659490
I did too. With 512mb of ddr2.
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>>740659490
Me too, with murderboars and everything.
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>>740659490
I tried several times but either something bugs out or I get assblasted by desert ruins and Nordmar orc mines
Who the fuck thought making a mage build would be the only useful option
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I still haven't played Gothic 3. When it first came out, my PC could barely run it, afterwards I lost interest and once I eventually returned to the series after a decade or so, I realized how buttfuckingly ugly G3 is. Seriously, Gothic 2 looks prettier, because it's being held up by a well-done artstyle. G3, just like Oblivion just drowns everything in oversaturated bloom.
Mid-2000's and their fetish for bloom can fuck off and never come hack.
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>>740658990
There's so much missing details in this comparison. Also poles would be happy with a game that runs in 15 fps
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>>740659490
>gothic 3
The ost was the only thing they didn't fuck up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCtV4DYZkK0
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>>740659437
hiring for the big boys is vastly easier than for some jank that 500 people in the world know how to use
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is the combat system still complete absolute ass ?
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I feel like cheating, robbing the castle at start of chapter 2
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>>740660024
>join old camp
>can now pick up stuff in many places of the castle without stealing
>can even pick many chests without anyone caring
>including chests at the smith
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>>740660018
Maybe. It's still ass, but now it's ass on purpose. The controls themselves are actually quite responsive and whatnot, but the combat is designed in such a way that you always feel the jank. Because it wouldn't be Gothic, if the combat was snappy and responsive.
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>>740660018
it's pretty good actually. Way less janky than the original.
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>>740660126
This. I dont even mind dying in this game. Fully fits the remake.
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>>740660018
It's less ass.
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>>740659827
I don't hate the graphics except for the character models
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it it just me or is XP a lot tighter? I'm playing as a mage leveling the same way I would in the OG and I had to kill half the orc lands and Xardas's golems ahead of time to learn the 4th circle from Corristo.
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I am pretty sure there is a deeper story behind that orc Ki-Shak who beat up the digger from the old camp and run away to Varant to do dodge responsibility.
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>>740660405
Fuck off with your gay youtuber bullshit
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>>740660018
As for melee combat, you now do your attacks from the left and right with your main mouse buttons, the stab and attack from above with Q and E
Alt is your dodge and ctrl your block
Since you don't have to focus on an individual enemy any more and attacks can hit multiple enemies based on your weapon swing, melee against multiple enemies feels a lot better

Ranged and magic attacks are now free aim with a crosshair
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>>740660367
I didn't manage to learn 4th circle before chapter 4, and I'm just on 3rd circle... does it mean I'm stuck and won't be able to progress circles?
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>sneak into Kaloms lab to steal his recipe
>he walks over and stares at my while I lockpick his chest
>oh fugg he's gonna kill me or something
>just watches
>then fuses with the wall
the fuck is going on in this swamp, when did Kalom become a magic chestcuck?
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>>740660018
It's the apropriate amount of ass.
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>>740660518
H-hey look Cain I turned myself into a chest! I'm Chest Kalom!
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>>740660464
Ironically, the remake feels better to play with a controller. Because attacking left/right with Q and E, because we've ran out of buttons in a mouse is just... hard to get used to, while on a controller, that kind of "4 buttons for 4 attacks" scheme feels more natural.
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>>740660464
this looks pretty good tbqh

does the attack direction means I've got to evade the enemy parry for the attack to connect?
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>>740660612
Eh, I felt the system in the original took a bit of getting used to and so did the one in the remake
Especially since you're most likely doing left-right-left style combos early on
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>>740660497
haven't got far enough myself to confirm it still applies, but in the OG you could become a water mage and learn it from Saturas.
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>>740660756
>master 1h
>get a sword
>charge at the enemy while sprinting and hit him with Q+lmb+rmb+lub
>kill everything in sight
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Is this better than the oblivion remake? I never played either original but that one was boring after a few hours
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>>740660947
Yes, if only because it's not just a lazy UE5 reskin of the game from 2006. It actually goes much deeper than this.
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>level 25
>only just got 5th circle
Is there a max level?
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>>740625381
LMAO!
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>>740660947
Oblivion is just not that good of a game frankly. It needed a remake and not just a new coat of paint.
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>>740660947
Oblivion is just a shitass copy paste into ue5 engine that is junky and barely runs to this day, with only couple of basic changes. Gothic is an actual remaster with more quests, npcs, mechanics and about 30% larger map. Also expanded the OG quests.
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>>740661320
Oblivion also doesnt feel as alive. And there are loading screens everywhere.
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>>740661480
This was something that Gothic excelled at even back in 2001.
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>>740661629
Yeah. For me, as a kid, seeing a world like that was amazing and I hoped to see many games try to recreate that.
And since Gothic 2 there was like 5 solid titles in that genre
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Is smithing worth it?
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>>740661729
Witcher 1 also tried doing that, until CDPR kinda lost interest in W2. In W3 the NPC reactivity is kinda there, but it's insanely barebones.
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>>740661939
You can get some extra cash, some quest/s? involving smithing (only got one so far but I am still only in chapter 1) and if you explore a lot you can make much better weapons from occasional blueprints you found than those sold by merchants.
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>>740662293
what chapter 1 quest is it, I walked through all camps and nobody gave me anything like that
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>>740661939
Yes, but only first tier
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>>740662190
Risen 1 did it well too.
I mean, W2 is closer to oblivion with loading screens/doors, kek
W3 captures the feeling of a village/city well but you cant really interact with it
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>>740662441
you get it directly from old camp blacksmith
he tells you about a request for 5 sickles from fisk I think and how busy he is to make them
offers you to use his forge to do it
you can then grill fisk about his connections to new camp because he ordered sickles for their rice farmers
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>>740662525
huh he didn't give it to me, maybe I need to talk to him after learning or something
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>>740625043
007 First Light: 71k (1.03million sales on steam)
https://steamdb.info/app/3768760/charts/

Gothic 1 Remake: 77k (300k sales on steam)
https://steamdb.info/app/1297900/charts/

huh? those 007 sales numbers are cooked.
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never played gothic

what games are most similar to it
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>>740662564
>after learning
probably, but there might be other triggers
I learned blacksmithing the moment I entered the camp but for longest time my only dialog option with him was 'how's business going?' and then he asks if I want him to craft me something, with only one answer option 'no'
much later out of nowhere he suddenly had the sickles quest dialog option
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>>740662696
Ultima, Arx Fatalis, maaaaaaybe some post-Morrowind Elder Scrolls game.
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found imprisoned woman
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>>740662657
I like both, so I'm happy either way.
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>>740625043
So how expensive was it to make you reckon? Including everything.
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I was hoping the remake restored the sex scene with Velaya after you massacre the Old Camp near the finale, but this doesn't seem to be the case. Shame.
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>>740662696
Gothic 2
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>>740662696
Risen
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>>740662696
Gothic 2
Risen 1
Elex 1 (if you're okay with the setting)
Drova
Of Ash and Steel (still extremely janky, though)
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