Doomers lost.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
The martyrdom secret is one of the most SOVLful additions to any game made in the past decade.
>Still no swords or new classesPretty sure they are correct.
>>740798085Doomtroons rely on things never happening. Swords are an inevitability.
>still slow as a corpsenot interestedthank you shill
>>740798152Skills issue.
>>740797651Today, I will remind them.
>>740798152skill issue u bad
it's actually impressive how raped diablo 4 is
the game feels better since I played it at launch, but it cant be understated how much they have compromised their original vision for this game in order to appeal to a broader audience. the "intentional combat" that they intended for PoE2 to have is gone at this point
>>7407987070.5 added more content that both of D4's expansions combined. And they already said that 1.0 will be an even bigger update.
>>740797651> Doomers lost.
>>740798839Quadrupling down on vision is how we didn't get async trading for 10 years.
Doomers eternally win until they fucking add the things they have advertised the game with. Where are swords, axes, mines, flails, claws, daggers, beast lady, duellist, marauder, shadow, templar, a variety of totems, mines, where are the missing acts, the third ascendancy trial, or two-handed spears, the old mtx they have promised and what ever else. Don't even let me begin with how they advertised the game with huntress and druid, but cut them shortly before release. It was a rug pull. It won't even be complete with 1.0, according to their own words. The biggest problem is that PoE attracts a fucking cult of neets who need their forever grind. You running behind pixel that will expire a week later is the problem. It got to your head, you draw your life's worth from it, and nobody will give a shit. Fuck off and die.
>>740797651>optimization problem with spreadsheets everywherethis is not a video game, its a job that you pay for
>>740799504Cry about it. You lost, faggot.
>>740799794Confession accepted
>>740797651He won.
>>740799827Seethe.
>>740799794>>740799883Is your ego bruised? Afraid your thousands of dollars in mtx is going up in flames? Lmao.
I had no storage on my ssd and installed it on a 5400rpm xhd and it runs surprisingly okay wtf minus the initial loading taking a longass time ofc
>>740800003Yep, that's a seethe.
>>740797651>paid for early access when the game was 80gb>now its 150gb and too big for my current ssdthe only one who lost was me. fuck this bloated niggertrash and fuck this fatfuck in glasses
>>740800456And stay out, you third world goblin.
>>740800560You mad.
>>740800609And you are barred from this game.
>>740799732Just play ssf and never interact with people, simple as
Dead thread, dead game.
>>740801143noticed you haven't been really spamming steamcharts lately lil doomgup
>>740800456no but for real why the fuck is it so large? 90% of the content is the same copy pasted stuff.
>a hundred dollars for a free gameLOLKEK EVEN
>>740797651im waiting for poe 3.29poe2 is just not for me
>>740801427It actually should cost $100 to keep subhuman pests like you out.
it feels better to play since they've nerfed the piss out of enemies and stopped being so unbelievably stingy with loot (undoubtedly designed to drive players to RMT)also johnathan really had no balls to stick to his original Vision of DARK SOULS, it's regressing back to poe press 1 button zoomzoom clear maps
I kind of wanna play it but builds have too many moving parts
>>740801523Well they did a great job because I'm still just playing d2 with median xl and won't play this bullshit. To be fair they had already ruined POE1 so I expected nothing from this dumpster fire. Enjoy playing with Elon.
>>740801908There's the door. Go.
>>740801948Why? I got nothing to playJust like you.
>>740801908>Enjoy playing with Elon.we all know he doesn't play any games
Fuck doomers they always lose cuz they suck.(He's secretly a doomer >.<)
>>740798224This is perfectly correct thoughThe slide is not advocating for either of the bullet points, because those bullet points are lazy dogshit. It's saying that the decisions about which skills to use should be dictated by changes in the combat situation which the player can respond to. Their problem is they can't have meaningful combat where the player responds to different combat situations, because PoE only has one combat situation: The situation where the screen is constantly flooded with infinite weakshit enemies that explode in one hit. In response to this one combat situation the player will then press their one button which makes all of the screen explode. There are no different situations so there are no variables and no decisions to be made. PoE can't have meaningful combat because PoE combat is fundamentally retarded
>>740798839yeah, they are clearly making it poe1. I guess it's the safe bet for them.
>poe2 uniques are still just as shit and useless as poe1>nobody ever gives a shit when a unique dropshow can they fail so hard so consistently for years? Just make uniques rarer and in return they are genuinely fantastic and pretty much always a good item to wear? Instead they made poe2 uniques into d4 uniques, each unique has some special playstyle or gimmick attached to it and the stats mean nothing.
doomgoons are begging for ONE tiny win
>>740802581>retard who knows nothing about the game runs his retard mouthretard
>>740798964Making POO1 2 will bore me like POO1 did like 5 years ago and I haven't touched it since
>>740802773Don't care.
Why did POE2 win, what did I miss?
Gameplay is still worse than even D3 and the chink devs have not the faintest clue as to what they are doing and never have.For the genre to prosper, we need devs who aren't deeply obsessed with Diablo 2. Like the chinks behind PoE. I don't want the genre to be kept stagnant.
>>740799504The old mtx is a huge killer for me. Im sitting on 1000 dollars of mtx completely unuseable.
>>740797651I'm like level 60 in interludes and still using the same armor I got when I was like level 20 in act 2Is this normal?Will this change when I get to maps?
>>740803064>chink devsare you retarded
ssf gearing is still abysmal as is build accessibility
Honestly, i've seen a few snippets of delirium and the vaal temple, it seems great so far, but i will still be waiting 1.0 tho.The retarded honor damage thing is still in unfortunately
>>740802941The endgame is fun and interesting again and they added things to help campaign go faster and smoother. There's also challenges now to complete so there's goals to attain and get a feeling of accomplishment.
>>740803219don't worry lil bro endgame won't completely gape you :)
>>740803219Not normal but on the other hand it's not un-normal either.What's the matter, do you need a specific mix of stats and resist and spirit?
>>740802828Kill yourself faggot
I like it
>>7408033051.0 is not 1.0 and you wont gave all the classes, nor all the ascendancies, nor all the weapons, or skillsMaybe you won't even have the entire campaign
>>740803329Uh oh faggot melty
>>740803315NTA but is endgame that different from the interludes?
>>740803436I'm aware, i'm waiting for what the devs think 1.0 is playable and ready to ship it, it's just my line in the sand for EA games.
>>740797651So, is FTP already?.
wasn't 1.0 supposed to come out like 7 months ago?
maps are too big still
>>740803219SSF?Yeah there's not really a reason to upgrade in campaign. All the campaign content was nerfed. Just upgrade your weapon every act to speed things up.
>>740803534Yes, except the final boss of the interludes.And if you're getting rekt in early maps it feels extra shitty because their monster density is awful. It will feel like running through mostly empty maps where you could die instantly regardless.
>>740803219Yes, the loot game in POE2 is dog shit and you barely ever find anything worth using by actually playing the game cause it's p2w as fuck.
>>740803219yes, when you get to maps gearing becomes much slower
>>740800847idk what that means, i never played this game or even liked diablo im just here to shitpost
>>740803969>>740803801>>740803534>>740803325>>740803315yeah I'm playing SSF and pretty much completely blind with no guides/builds at all playing a whole new class this league before I did shit like slamman warrior and bear druid or spear huntress and blood witch to maps in previous versions including 0.1It feels like I've been using this gear for aeons now and I do get some new drops every now and then and try to either alch or exalt them up but they never are as good as these so it ends up a waste of resources
>>740803219the only way to have fun in poe2 is to buy loot off of the market. I only realized this myself very late. For a few exalted orbs you will get better loot there than you could ever find yourself in 50h of farming
>>740803219The two times I've played through the game I've felt loot starved for long periods of time.If I ever complained about it I didn't get trades, I was accused of having skill issues despite beating the game with shitty gear
>>740804326>beating the gameCampaign is the tutorial
>>740803583I mean, it will still be free (I assume) so at least you wont have to pay to play whatever dogshit they release
>>740803969>you barely ever find anything worth using by actually playing the game cause it's p2wThere's nothing you can buy with real money that makes you loot better items or increase character power. You can buy stash tabs which are basically mandatory anyway but it won't make your character better.
>>740804423Not when it's the only interesting part. Then it's the game, and the rest is filler.
>>740804309>>740804326Well as said in>>740804245I'm SSFand also so far with this gear I'm still not having too much trouble clearing through interlude. I guess we'll see when maps startAlso at 60 I can now also try for 3rd ascendancy, not sure how well this negative 40 level gear will hold up there too
>>740804326>didnt get tradesWhat?
>>740804524this lol, these poe addicts actually expect us to endlessly play randomly generated "maps" to summon some boss that has zero story significance or any meaning to it. Soulless slop.
>>740804245it doesn't matter when you got Foxshade, only the Evasion and MS rolls are important. And yours are alright.
it's worse than ever. just poe1 spamslop again. and absolute subhumans like >>740798152 are STILL crying it's not spammy enough.
>>740804245>blood witchHow the fuck do you play that ascendency without wanting to throw your computer out the window?
what's the appeal of a genre where shit just melts as soon as it appears on your screen and if it doesn't you just die?
>>740804245>>740803219>I got when I was like level 20 in act 2>Requires: Level 30
>>740804684adhd brainrotten mongoloids need the constant teleports with no CD too, cleaning the entire screen with 1 button is not enough
>>740804554Well, if I call out in chat that I do zero damage you'd expect somebody to offer some shitty gear they've saved for an alt or something, right? Mercy loot for the dweebs? But all you get is scorn
>>740804825The main appeal was that the game was supposed to be NOT that (it is now)
>>740804834>like level 20 in act 2that sounds like the dude doesn't remember or is exaggerating, you autistic fuck. It means that it was a long time ago when he was still low level.
>>740804917they need 0 buttons like a tesladragondin build in D2
>>740804935>he is literally begging for gearlmao what the fuck kekjust play the game bro
>>740804834He's right. It only says level 30 because of the runes he socketed in. The true requirement of those items are likely in the teens.
>>740804245You should really save your currency. Spend some on weapons during campaign. Then use it all in endgame to make some decent armour for maps.
Rate my outfit /v/
>>740797651It's pretty good now. I'm playing through for the first time since the game launched and it is definitely better now. I still prefer POE1 but this game has potential to be something great eveutually
>>740804825>duhh me get one shot out of nowhere durrrrrDead meme. You're instantly dying because you're not supposed to do the content you just attempted to do. Get good and gear up.
>>740804935You are brown.
>gorrillion hours in poe>poe2 ends my addiction>check out mathil playing poe2>its straight up just poe1 but with slightly better graphicscool game fags, see you at 1.0
>>740798085i was about to ask the same desu, my friend unironically quit because he found out there were no swordshe was gonna quit anyways but this is the thing that actually made him quit, i never let him forget about it either
>>740805343he is correct in the sense that you very rarely struggle and survive. Usually it's either a cakewalk or facing a difficulty spike that kills you.If you get good and gear up, then it's a cakewalk again.There's no skill involved or actual gameplay to be had.
>>740801516So that's a tranny, right?
>>740805525Beat ubers on hardcore then, if you really believe there's no challenge.
Can we finally admit that the "forced" hype for Diablo 4s expansion were bots that suddenly disappeared after a week?That game is still such a pile of fucking shit. Even 0.1 poe 2 mogs current diablo 4
>>740805530He is RWDS_Larry, nowadays he tries to pass as ds_lily.RWDS stands for Right Wing Death Squad by the way, that was unironically his nickname.
>>740805294Sounds good I'll do that then. I saw one time I got a modifier for like 30something%(!) increased bow damage on my quiver and I kept using exalts to try to make it good but it ultimately wasn't. I'll just stick with what I got and not try to force the issue until maps then. Cheers for the advice
So the level 38 on Trials of Chaos is a troll, right? You're actually supposed to do them at level 50 or 60.
>poop of excrement 2there is no way y'alls actually play this oh my god i'm laughing so hard
>>740805585>rarely>usuallywhy are you so black and white?I didn't say there's no challenge. My point is that once you have the gear, you rarely struggle.
>>740805856You're thinking of Trials of the Sekhemas because of honor bullshit.
>>740805856i do them at the end of act 3 which is like level 42 for me. How dogshit are your builds that you cant do it in the 40s? The bosses just melt
>>740805941trials of sekhema is easy. Its only difficult for the fourth ascendancy. What fucking builds are you running?
>>740797651>what if ARPG but rollslop???Good one, Jonatroon
>>740805995I've been running https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/poisonburst-arrow-pathfinder-leveling and it literally pops like a balloon the second a boss touches me, especially the bird ones.
>>740804524>>740804621Assmad dilators
>going through a level>see abyss cracks>kill them and get an abyssal pit>go through the abyssal pit and do usual exploring, killing, looting>eventually finish and explore every last corner of the abyss pit>get the final treasures and return to surface>the level has now been reset>start going through again killing and looting>see abyss cracks>after killing them another abyssal pit appearsuh...
>>740805907There's not a single ARPG on the market or in the history of video games where gameplay is you struggling all the time or most of the time or even a significant amount of time, nor do you even want that to be the case. You hit gear thresholds that allow you to safely farm the next bit of content until you eventually challenge ubers, or whatever it is you determine is your stopping point for the league. But honestly I doubt most of you will get to this "no challenge" point easily or ever if you don't follow a build guide. You'll definitely struggle in the campaign itself.
>>740806120
>>740804825it's a retarded genre for autists, diablo 1 was the only proper video game from this genre
>>740805589The lack of a general thread really exposes how fake and astroturfed D4 was. Utterly fake and gay game.
>>740804245>SSF and pretty much completely blind with no guides/builds at all playing a whole new class this leagueHow long can one get away with this? I thought people said builds were mandatory?
>>740798149Inevitability, yes, but what kind of a fucking clown moron makes maces before swords and axes? They should hurry the fuck up already.
>>740797651Chuds.... sound the retreat......
>>740806141The tornado bird boss in Chaos trial is bullshit, you just have to pray to the RNG that he is the first one you meet and that he doesn't decide to outskill you with fair and balanced mechanics.But yeah your build isn't really meant to take damage so I can see your struggle
>>740806379How very fitting.
>>740802289Do people really enjoy this sort of gameplay for more than ten minutes?
>>740806529Forever. Learn the game and you get better at it. You become the build maker for yourself instead of following some e-celeb.
>>740806628Cyclone with HH and Rampage is incredibly satisfying, so yes
Templar when
>>740806664But /v/ told me that this game was shit because you weren't allowed to experiment and only a few builds were viable and you had to follow ecelebs so much so they made it part of the new update where you could import an ecelebs build. Not to mention also literally every single video about this game is always some eceleb shilling his one million damage best build and there's no videos about the actual game itself?
PoE 2 is just worse PoE 1 at this point. The combat is absolutely not any more meaningful than in PoE 1 by the time you reach endgame. Meanwhile, the game has terrible itemization, terrible crafting, and thus terrible progression. The endgame is also markedly worse than PoE 1 , even though 0.5 was a large improvement.The only thing PoE 2 does better than 1 are graphics and arguably the campaign. That's it.
>>740806785>holding one button to win is satisfyingboss baby vibes.
>>740806379You know what they say about staring into the abyss.
>>740806628poo1 tradies are mentally fucking retarded and gulp down an unending amount of horrible gameplay as long as they get items to sell on the market out of it. >>740798283 is a real quote, the minute POE added real gameplay in 2 they pissed and shit their pants because they wanted the 1-button tinkfest that is poe1
>>740806864Because the builds that can realistically clear all content in the game are not usually something you can just casually cook up as you play.For campaign and early maps, really anything works.
>>740806379lol
>>740797651It's actually amazing how dogshit both poe games are.
>>740806960>The combat is not any more meaningfuland as usual the 1trannies lie through their teethpoe1 becomes 0-gameplay zoom zoom by act 2 and poe2 gets vaguely fast once you're geared up in t15s and you treat that as the samenot to mention that at any level of play you actually pay attention to mob attacks in POE2 whereas in 1 unless it's a detonate dead you're just running around spazzing out zombies hoping their random bullshit doesn't magically one shot you
>>740806960>The only thing PoE 2 does better than 1 are graphics and arguably the campaign. That's it.You're forgetting one. PoE2 is 10x more user friendly in every way, which is a gigantic factor for new player acquisition and general player retention.
>>740806975>boss baby vibes.what does that mean in this context?I like both combo builds and cyclone builds, Cyclone is always fun.My first ever build in PoE1 closed beta was a templar who used sweep, infernal blow and heavy strike.
If Ur too intimidated by gameplay just follow monkey zoo guide there's like 5 of them and I get to ape all pinnacles with 0 buttons just running around, boring? sure, but it's not the point
>>740806981This.
I find it funny that they are spergs out their getting mad and people enjoying a game they don't like.
>>740797651I will continue to spew hate towards PoE2 because it runs like shit on my 8 year old PC.>2 minute loading screens every time I switch area>5-8 minute loading just to make it to the main menu when I load the game upFUCK OFF. If Elden Ring runs flawlessly on my computer why can't this piece of shit?
>>740806379You know what you must do.
>>740807347>what does that mean in this context?Yeah, you wouldn't know.
>>740807424PoE2 is a CPU rapist.My 5800X3D is running at 93 celsius unless I switch to Vulkan
>>740805714>>740805294Wow it must be a sign to truly listen to your advice, I just had this happen back to back
>>740797651Not a doomer, i just really hate this and what normal poe has become so i dont play. If you do i wish you all the best, i moved on.
To be honest I haven't played Path of Exile 2 yet and I'm still waiting. I have no idea why people mindlessly buy things. You realize this game was literally announced to be FREE when it officially releases, right? FREE. As in, you won't spend a dime.And yet people were spending $30 on it? $15 now that it finally went on sale? IMO that's $15 too much. It will literally be FREE when it releases.Why are you all impatient consumers?
>>740807621
>>740807525Holy shit, really?Well fuck, no wonder my computer is dying if yours with that CPU is running so hot.
>>740807649Because I liked PoE1 and wanted to support PoE2 development, before I knew what kind of asshole Jonatroon proved to be
>>740802289>diablosissy lacks media literacy, proceeds to equate PoE1 to PoE2 like a retard and go on a pointless rantMany such cases. The slide literally says "Bad Solutions" on its title. Nothing on there is being "advocated for" since this was a presentation by Rory who has since left the company before PoE2 even came out.
>>740807649POE2 in early access is better than 99% of other games released full price. i would have bought it at $70 and felt it was worth my moneyI'm sure you posted this reddit-spaced drivel then went back to opening your rupee wallet for gacha games, brownskin.
>>740807649actually I got mine for free getting a key on /v/ in one of the many threads when it came out. haven't paid a cent since and still won't ever!
>>740807649I spend $40 on pizza every week, this isn't a mortal conundrum for me.
>>740807649I get to play and master the new mechanics/economy before you can even figure out how to dodge roll correctly. I get free MTX rewards for playing that you'll never have access to. I'll have fun while you're burning yourself out on PoE1.
>>740807241Honestly I'm a bit torn on this one. It certainly has better onboarding but it also has a ton more keywords and concepts than PoE 1 does. Sure these extra keywords usually only interact with a handful of skills at a time but still.
>>740800847PoE was NOT designed for SSF, it's like someone kicking you in the balls constantly. For any decent endgame build you need to grind for like 30 hours to get currency A for buying fragment B to then go to map C and grind 30 hours for drop D which unlocks map E and then you have a chance for boss F to appear and after 30 clears he drops oil G and you need 10 of those for one slot of your build
>>740804935No? Are you brown?
I ripped a huge fart and my wife entered the room to ask me if i finally bought poe 2
>>740805856I do it when I unlock it lmaoYou motherfuckers are ASS
>>740806960The itemization and crafting is worse in POO1
>>740808345Are you insane ? Do you enjoy picking up over 100 white bases to begin crafting an item ? Do you enjoy chaos spam which is just alt spam but 50x more expensive ?
>>740806960The crafting is incredibly worse in POO1, you are just happy that you can just make whatever you want because you are a subhuman mongoloidThe endgame is exactly the same, same fucking dogshit map spamActually, POO2 is probably better because there are actually goals instead of>spam maps until some random boss lets you fight it randomly
>>740806960>arguablyBait or mental retardation
>>740807649PoE 1.0 will be different than all those patches now. Hell you will NEVER expiriance how fucking BAD and shitty it was in 0.2. Utterly trash
>>740807649Because I thought they wouldn't lie about what they were doing AGAIN (yes I am fucking stupid I guess)Had I known what a colossal pile of shit the game was before this patch I would have waited till release (since there is no point in buying it now when it will be free in 6 months)
>>740807649>He didn't experience the ballbusting need to rip out your eyelids when playing this for 15 minutes in 0.2 because he is brownNGMI
>>740808598It's much better on a first playthrough, but slower to blast through when you've already done it a thousand times compared to PoE 1. So your opinion will depend on how many alts you're making.
>>740807649this got them seething
>>740808456PoE 2 endgame is just spam pointless maps until you reach the questline area, do a few maps in the questline area, fight the cool pineapples and move on to the next questline. Not much different from PoE 1, except in PoE 1 you can actually run the maps you want.Scarabs are also infinitely better than tablets.
>>740807803>Nothing on there is being "advocated for"It's like 4 lines of text and you couldn't even manage to read it to the end>a presentation by Rory who has since left the company before PoE2 even came outOh so this is why PoE2 failed to take that advice
>>740797651It's gonna be hilarious when all the retards realize that every league start now includes:-acts-rushing the arbiters-300 atlas points MINIMUM-1 to 2 whole mechanic trees-mastery mission search on the atlasIn less than 4 months we will see all of reddit bitching about that fact
Is there any fun to play with a controller melee build that's also a good league starter? Currently leveling an Ice Shot Deadeye but idk, melee gotta be fun right?
>>740809605I like boneshatter, but I think shield wall is dogshit to use. Slams in general are alright, and there's always Bear builds that you can slap on Druid or Warrior both. Hell Bear goes on everything.
>>740803308>made it easier>added chevosYou really sold me on the opposite, my friend. Absolutely just tanked my remaining opinion of the game.
>>740809908>chevosThey're challenges that you complete and get free cosmetics for
>>740809848ty broski gonna search for guides on mobalytics
>>740807906>haven't paid a cent since and still won't ever!HOLY BASED
I never played PoE 1 outside leveling 1 character to like 10 and never figuring anything out, but I bought 2 on release because it was hyped.I found it really dull and weirdly grindy, while not feeling rewarding or visually impressive enough to feel like it was a 10/10. I know it was just an EA, but I swear I wasn't having fun with how big the maps were and how 1-shotty everything was. Either I blew the whole screen with 2 or 3 buttons or I got raped if a boss hit me with an ability. Also, it was mostly about buffing 1 particular skill rather than having a rotation of abilities that compliment each other, in that sense it felt similar to Diablo 2. Anyways I never wanted to play a second character after finishing the story and I got such a bad impression that I truly don't want to play a second character ever.While Diablo 4 has a really bad campaign, the gameplay felt serviceable enough to finish the story (haven't touched the DLCs) and it was mindnumbing, but I didn't have to figure the systems out either.Is the game supposed to be like this or I was playing it wrong and this is some marvelous videogame that's getting better and better?
>>740809075tablets can go to hell in my opinion
>>740810364>Also, it was mostly about buffing 1 particular skill rather than having a rotation of abilities that compliment each otherThis is just metafag brainrot, you're following le epic minmaxing glass cannon builds that speed run T15 maps 200 times a day using 1 button. Just don't do that, you're ALLOWED to use multiple skills, you're ALLOWED to make your own build and not follow whatever the most popular twitch streamer tells people to do.
Quick /v/, which one?
>>740811446Be a rebel and go for gloves, the boots will NEVER EVER have movement speed on them.
>>740811494but maybe this time they will
>>740797995I wish they'd add more ascendancy alternatives like the abyss witch, shits so cool
>>740811494um about that...
>141gb>Still in early access
>>740800000
>>740811812>Borderlands tranny>Complaining about game optimization Lol
>>740806379>spent more than 15 minutes clearing an abyssal pityour build is fucked, unfuck it promptly
>>740801516Lmao, look at the balding tranny jumping to the game's rescue whenever necessary. LOL
>>740797651not having fire conversion is gaylet me convert whatever I want to whatever I want even if it's at a 10% damage loss
>>740811985That includes going back to town repeatedly to check gear then salvage it or mull over options.
>>740807649If you showed up to mcdonalds, worked for 40 minutes, and then called your boss a faggot and quit you could be playing rn instead of posting this in every thread for a year
>>740812020which thot is picrel?
>>740811778Is that good?
>>740809093YesIt was leaked that the development of the game is a fucking shitshow which is why they managed to do literally nothing of that the game was supposed to
>>740808797I took two characters to 90+ in 0.2 and holy fuck that was some shit, act 2 was the hardest poe has ever been.
>>740811494I got lucky earlier...
>>740809207anon... POO1 has been repeating the same tedious dogshit for a decadeYES, this game was supposedly being made exactly to change that, I knowBut it doesn't change it's what POO1 trannies have been doing 4 times a year for a decade
>>740812109Your painter's gloves sis?
>>740812574Like 30 wipes on Jamanra playing with the friends I always play with because we just were dealing 0 fucking damage to him, mf had like 400k hp IN ACT 2
this is the first time ever im playing a game of this kindis this build good? https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/cold-caster-chronomancer-kythis motherfucker keeps updating the guide every 2 days, and im at the endgame. im just not sure when i should go after endgame step 2 or endgame step 3
>>740797651>the kalguuran crater>the dreamer questline>the bodach >the visions of slaughtered NPCs in Simulacrum, and the spawning/despawning animations of Tangmazu KIIINOOOOOOOall the focus is on John and Mark, the systems and balance, but this game doesn't get enough praise for its creative design and music.
>>740812120don't forget backtracking too to make sure every corner is explored that takes time as well enough for maps to be reset
>>740813070>Is this build goodidk probably>This motherfucker keeps updating the guidePOE2's build planner program (pob2) basically doesn't work so there's a ton more uncertainty in build creation and optimization.>When should I go after endgame step 2/step3you're playing trade probably, so the answer is "when you can afford it". The build guide description changes when you click new "steps" so you can read that to determine what the most important part of that new step is. Endgame Step 2 seems to focus on hitting Spirit breakpoints, so the answer is that when you can afford a chestpiece with T2+ spirit and Alpha's Howl, as well as gear with Dexterity on it to support Alpha's Howl, that's when you swap. Step 2 also recommends Olroth's Resolve and Fall of the Axe but those are probably less important.
Potion seller, I am going into battle and I need your STRONGEST witch minion army builds
>>740813197>this game doesn't get enough praise for its creative design and musicBraindead gambling addicts don't even listen to the music, they mute it.
>>740813809ok thanks a lot>gear with Dexteritycant i just respect talent points? those that give +5 to a stat. i could just swap them, its not that expensive gold wise. im asking this because im hovering over the equipment and only the amulet and boots have dex on themand im guessing resistances and hp are also really important
>>74081436475% all elemental resists are baseline after campaign. Anything less means your penis explodes constantly.
>>740814364other guy is right, 75% all ele rez is not a suggestion>Can't I just respec talent points?alpha's howl requires a lot of dex and it looks like he's already taking points on the tree for dex. Maybe you just can't get enough of your stats from the tree alone. But yeah, where exactly you get your stats is irrelevant, as long as you have enough for everything you're good to go.
>>740797651I still can't believe that fat ugly bastard really fixed the endgame.
>>740814835Doesn't work without the "At last, death" caption/subtitle
Never got to endgame until now. Do you guys bother picking up every rare that drops?
>>740815341I just use a loot filter so I can only see actually useful drops
>>740815341Every yellow yesEvery blue no except for needed items that have the potential to be good
>>740797651>all cool looking gear is locked behind $20 MTXWhy would anyone play this? The entire point of the genre is to grind for cool shit.
>>740804684this, they ruined the game
>>740815914cry
>>740816067Don't need to, an actual isometric aRPG is coming.
why are all the witch's ascendancies total shit for skellington summoning?
>>740816154ok
OUR BIGGEST PATCH EVER:>no new classes>no swords>no campaign acts>no campaign skip>temple is still in the gamelollmao even
>>740813197Man, I still have to do most questlines, only pinnacle bosses I've killed were the arbiters and Atziri. I saw a video of the Bodach fight and it looked kino, I might do that one next.
>>740816286Cry about it, dilator.
can somebody tell me why i have to do these dogshit interludes after the campaign acts?? just let me get to the endgame already, why do i have to run through this tedious slog
>>740816402go back to d4
>>740816286>no swordsGo back, tranny
>>740816465go jump off a bridge
Is there an ARPG that has good gameplay and not just: >>740802289 ?
>>740816582you are never getting a campaign skip. ever.go the fuck back.
>>740816164Infernalist
>>740797651>less than a quarter of the player base they had at release
>>740816638the campaign is fine. but the interludes that follows at the tail end of them is absolutely horrendous and boring. why didnt they leave this shit out until the finish the final acts
>>740814574>>740814754sounds cool, i'll stick to the guide then
>>740807649To actually answer your question, you get ingame premium currency equivalent to the price of the game, which you'll have to buy anyways if you want to play more than "the tutorial", as without stash tabs the game is ass. So wait till the game becomes free to spend 30 bucks on it, or you can buy it now, get access "for free" and basically your 30 bucks worth of boints to spend on QOL. Not so hard to understand is it.
>>740816717>why didnt they leave this shit out until the finish the final actsBecause people were complaining about having to run the first 3 acts twice in a row every time
>>740816717retard
>>740816717The campaign is worse than shitty D4's
>>740816627>>740816154
>>740816691that feels more like a spec for a near-suicidal self casting elemental build, and the demon dog does not fit the theme of skeletons!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/02GBqWu-0ws
>>740816717They need to redo Act 3, it's such a fucking slog.
>>740816717What's wrong with the interludes?
>>740814835I probably missed out on the context of this part like a retard but this was pretty cool. Even the storyteller had no clue who this bitch was.
>>740801516piratesoftware looks like that?!
>>740816763Cope. You don't need to buy shit and you know it.
>>740816402Because the actual campaign when the game releases is going to have 6 acts, so it's better to get you accustomed to something close to the actual length instead of just getting used to a shorter pre-map game then making it longer at release. Just like how you had to do acts 1-3 twice before act 4 existed.
>>740816402So you don't need to do acts 1-3 over again like in 0.1-0.3
>>740817115>contextthe Vastiri wasn't always a miserable nightmare of a desert. it's been so dry for so many uncounted generations that they HAD a goddess of water, who is now nearly dead and completely forgotten by the people with the most stringent oral traditions on the continent. That same goddess of water was also a Maraketh who chucked her baby out into the desert to die, which gives more detail into just how long the Faridun and Maraketh have existed. The Maraketh have been abandoning babies for so long that it's arguably now their oldest continuous traditionher fat undead son trying to get back in to kill her has such kino dialogue toogod i love poe2
>>740811574Well, we have sort of this in the new league, monk can be disentegrated to become archon of chayulaBut I still waiting for:>Nameless/Vaal Ritualist>Rune Smith>Blood Gemling
>>740817513>That same goddess of water was also a Maraketh who chucked her baby out into the desert to dieI missed this part and I didn't realize the fat fuck was her son but alright otherwise I did catch all of that, thanks anon.
>>740816717They need to delete act2
>>740817871>lose Asala titsNo try again
>>740817871and act 3
>>740817871Why? I just played through it for my first time last week, act 2 seemed fine.Act 3 has been garbage so far but that's typical of jungleshit acts in every game.
They need to expand Asala's tits and belly.
>new to the genre>decide to try poe2>pretty fun>look up some builds>a common pro are 1 button builds>suddenly lose interest what is it with you arpg autists and enjoying this shit? i want to use all my binds, not just spam 1 button and clear out a whole area. god that shit is so boring
>>740818078Who the fuck is forcing you to use 1 button builds?
>>740818078Make your own gay build you fucking faggot.
>>740817608>Vaal Ritualistnot going to happen, but that's because Jonathan and Mark talked about how cool it would be to play Thaumaturge Shadow as an ascendancy, so you'll get this in time.>Rune SmithNot going to happen because according to my own schizo theory Champion is being removed, and Duelist's Ascendancies will be Slayer, Gladiator, and Knight (of the Sun).>Blood GemlingI don't know what this is>>740817628>I didn't realize the fat fuck was her sonI'm guessing you skipped his dialogue by attacking him. You can read his dialogue on the Azarian, the Forsaken Son page on poe2db.>>740818013Acts 1 and 2 are decent. Act 1 got a lot worse after the nerfs. 0.1-0.2 Count Geonor was based as hell and you actually had to try to kill him. Without the "highs" of Act 1 now you just have the light-stun-fest that is Act 1 combat without the benefits.Act 3 spikes incredibly hard at the last 20%, but the first 80% of it is fucking horrible, which redditors blame on the gigantic labyrinthine map layouts but I personally just blame on it not being that interesting, even if you shrink the layouts which they did.To be honest, hatred of the first three acts got a lot worse after Act 4 released because in every single way, from story to characters to gameplay to presentation, Act 4 embarrasses Acts 1-3, so you can look forward to that.
>>740818078>tfw you're a dedicated shitposters but the devs keep fixing the things you use to shitpost>so you have to fall back on something as lame as 'some people want to play simple builds' in a game where there are plenty of strong builds that have you playing the pianoTough times, huh?Tough times, huh?
>>740818078Maybe don't look up gay ecelebs guides and actually play the game for yourself?
>>740816793And for some raisin they couldn't just start the endgame after act 4?I suppose because they knew when they added act 5 people would riot.They need to put on their thinking caps and ask why players would riot for making the campaign longer.
>>740819158shut up, tranny. if you want a boring as fuck zero gameplay zero campaign joke d4 is out there, designed just for you.
>>740819315what
Tencent shill thread
>>740819463Crybaby dilator post
>>740819158I dunno what you're trying to say here but I'm pretty sure you're unaware that the interlude is just a placeholder for Acts 5 and 6, added to the game simply because people didn't want to run the same acts twice in a row>players would riot for making the campaign longerAs it stands it's just as long (if not shorter) than before act 4 and the interlude was added
>>740803421Good name
Haven't played since beta release. Are minions still gay?
>>740818432>the first 80% of it is fucking horribleIs that before or after the time travel bit? Because that's as far I've gotten and I while I was running through it I just kept thinking back to diablo 2's act III and thinking it was way worse.
>>740819801Yes. Thats what I'm saying.>We have acts 1-3>We require players to replay 1-3 before endgame>We add act 4>We don't want to require players to do acts 1-4 then 1-2.>We will add interludes equivalent to an act 5So the question is, why not just let the endgame start after act 4? Then when they add act 5 endgame starts after act 5.
>>740820261Minions are now top tierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP9smHmm_ws
is lightning still op?
>>740820420They probably want you to be on a high enough level when you hit endgame, I guess
>>740802941Nothing, people just coping harder because still no swords + the usual marketeers bs.
>>740817513It took me 3 campaign runs to start really paying attention to shit like this but a lot of lore is really neat. The Faridun really did get dealt an eternally shit hand in life.
I would happily kill everyone in your discord, tranny loser
>>740817871*3
Why is the skill balance so terrible?>start the league as a Wyvern>every skill that isn't Oil Barrage sucks cock>make a mace-wielding runic knight Shaman as my second character>every skill that isn't Shield Wall sucks cockIt's kinda diminishing my enthusiasm to make new characters because I know every skill I want to try will be shit. Either play meta or go home.
Imagine being a blizznig in 2026
>>740820521Its definitely minion league.Between the 30% minion buff and the breach crafting (though the rate on the otherworldy modifiers is shiiiiiit).Specters still shit though. Specters seem to have gotten the charge treatment.They went and added companion and companions have cannibalized the specter design space. Which I would probably be fine with if they didn't limit companions to just beasts, which they did, which is very annoying. Also that its made minions into a dex thing now??
>>740821003The faridun maraketh thing is either>You're meant to think the maraketh are the good guys, for some reasonOr>Oh look how complex this is, you need to side with the bad guys!!The prior is confusing, the latter is unfulfilling. Jamanra seems like a bro.
>>740821452(You) are the bad guy. The PoE1 witch literally murdered a bunch of children.
>>740814125i don't know about Witch specifically but you should be fine just dumping Spirit into any decent Spectre/Minion and spamming a zoo of 1x everything else, to scale Muster Support. Disciple of Varashta literally just waltzes into T15s with nothing but some +Level of Minion mods and whatever is on their Passive tree. Minion builds are pretty free.
>>740821178On one hand, statistically this is probably the best that the build diversity has been in poe2, though that's an extremely low bar.It just doesn't seem like that is because the balance is actually good. Its more that two of the things they added this patch are really good, while the 50 things that were shit are still shit. I don't know if this indicates they want to de-bald the game so they're adding new stuff that is "meh, let the kid have his toys" level of balance to see what the impact would be before they go back and overhaul the myriad of noob trap skills in a similar fashion.
>>740821526Yeah but I got Una her flute so that's clearly not true.
>>740821178You aren't thinking in layers, that's the problem.
>>740821526Life is short. Deal with it.
>>740821452Its kinda funny how the mook lord considered a nobody by Asula not only beats the sekma trial legitimately but gained chronomancy off the first djinn
>>740821546Muster support was a mistake.I hate spirit, but the one thing it did was prevent limit-per-type from poe1 incentivizing ugly carnival minion setups.Then they just ruin the one good thing about it by going "oh if you have one of everything you just do shitloads more damage than having all of one thing".They should add a gem that is "If all your minions are of one type then you get a bonus for it".Or something for the reaper niche. I fucking love reapers in poe1.
>>740821178The problem isn't there being obviously strong meta skills. The problem is faggots like you discard everything but them because you can't figure out how to much other skills work beyond slotting in your X% increased damage nodes and supports. There's more variety than ever this league. I'm playing a monk and not using any heralds for screenwide clear yet it's the strongest build I've played for monk yet. That's huge compared to 0.1
>>740822302What are you playing?Isn't pretty much everything in the QS toolkit better than anything in the mace toolkit?Monk is designed to pander to GGG's chinese overlords.
>>740820334it starts getting decent at the sun ziggurat, continues being decent until the time travel zone's first boss Viper Napuatzi, who herself is a fun fight, and everything after that is nuclear kino that stays at that quality through the Act 3 final boss and all of Act 4
>>740822232yeah personally Reaper is probably my favourite Skill visual in the game. won't really comment on Muster or balance, it doesn't bother me that much, but your idea for non-zoo option does sound good.
Help me bros I can't stop playing wolf druid
As a pretty casual arpg player, should I just wait for the full release at this point or would you guys recommend playing now?
>>740822460I don't know when you last used it, because reapers were dogshit for a while in poe1. But they've added a few things that actually make it really good in the last two or so leagues.It wont compete with actual meta builds, still, but you can comfortably do all the content with it and its super duper fun to romping as a champion with a bleed based reaper bro.
>>740821003>The lore is really neatI really like POE's story. The Expedition story in POE1 is great (2's current expedition plot is a really badly conveyed recap of 1's Expedition plotline up until the pinnacle), I loved Breach's story outside of what they did to Esh and Tul in Keepers, and I love the way that GGG doesn't feel preachy, or that they pull punches. A normal western dev would write the Karui (enslaved natives) as poor and pitiable and special and strong or whatever the fuck. GGG writes them as all of those things, but also as violent, closed-minded, arrogant, and quick to anger.Sadly they tried to add all the story at once to POE2 in 0.5 and I think it's kinda sloppy. Partly because it's so easy to speedrun a story start to finish, like how if your build is geared it takes like 4-5 maps tops to finish the entire Breach plot in 0.5.
>>740822543yeah i only really used it when it released in Expedition and it was awesome early, 1 shotting bosses with the command cleave until... it wasn't and suddenly dropped off in effectiveness. since then i only used it for levelling here and there as i just love the Reaper visual, but it was basically complete shit.
fortunately I quit early, I keep finding niche builds but they suck, maybe in 1.0 I will be meta
>>740822383>>740822302Yeah monk doesn't really have any bad skills. All of its skills are either ranged or can teleport/are extremely fast. Meanwhile Warrior has shit like Armour Breaker that is completely useless, or Stampede that can miss enemies completely, needs to be animation cancelled with a dodge roll, and is slow as fuck. There are GGG-approved weapons/skills and then there is the garbage that clears 10x slower with 10x less damage.
>>740797651i gave it an honest shot and ive come to the conclusion that it's trashthe devs have completely lost the plotthey said they'd fix a bunch of shit like visibility but it just got worse compared to poe1
>>740822536I dunno but I should still have one early access key left if you want it
>>740822793Yeah they added a helmet that lets you use link skills on it okay put down the pitchfork just hear me out which gives it 70% DR and a headhunter effect. It goes absolutely mentaly when it gets soul eater.Another helmet that gives you double minion count if you only have one type of minion, which synergizes well with reaper.Also noticed they added some companion flavored support gem recently, which I haven't tried yet.I like doing the link thing, since minion linking has been something I've always wanted to do but never managed to make work.
>>740818143The game encouraging one button builds because it's just a poorly optimized musou in disguise?
>>740822383Mace is extremely good, it's just slow and takes more investment. Sure mace isn't clearing like bow or the CoC setups do, but it is pretty fucking strong and anyone telling you otherwise is genuinely a fucking retard. "Melee" just feels cucked in comparison because there is literally one STR melee weapon type in the game where casters have tons of overlapping skills and other things. That's it.
>>740823097Huh.Are you counting shield wall as a mace skill?
>>740823224Shield wall is good too, but I was excluding it since the other poster cried about "only meta skills" being good. Hammer of the gods can easily still do millions of damage in one tap, and it's easier than ever to build glory. Leap slam is quite strong, eartshatter has some nutty builds. Something could be said about warrior's ascendancies, but mace as a weapon is far from bad. It is very strong.
>>740821178You can't main 90% of the skills in PoE1 either. 1 just has so many more skills that you forget the sea of unusable garbage because by sheer volume the low percentage of good skills become numerically sufficient enough. 2 hasn't quite reached that level of content yet.
>>740821178https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrA3UVKrsYTechnically it's a mace build, and it's using a shield offensively.
>>740823436No lol.As long as you have to build glory to use hammer of the gods its shit. There's the gemling build where you get the chance to use glory reduced to never use the glory but that is absolutely getting nerfed.Leap slam is not good I don't know what you're smoking. It's got an unscalable +0.65 second attack time + 0.5 if you actually travel. You ever hit that thing during a breach/abyss and you WILL die since you still fucking get hit by projectiules traveling at ground level when you're in the air. I was trying to use it as a gap closer and its unusable.Dunno about earthshatter. Haven't used it in too long. Assuming that's shit too until proven otherwise.
>>740822950thanks anon but it'd probably get just snapped up and $15 bucks is whatever for me, save it for a friend of yours
>>740822536Depends on whether or not the idea of replaying the campaign is interesting to you. Would you play through the game once then never touch it again or do you see yourself trying it for a short period each league?Right now the game has 4 out of its planned 6 acts and it uses 3 short stories to fill the gap left by 5/6 not being in. The endgame was totally revamped and now feels like an extension of the game instead of a flat grindfest, each mechanic has it's own storyline, bosses, and systems to learn and work through.
>>740797651that's cool and all paypiggies glad you're having fun but call me when the beta testing is over
>>740812165some random ewhore who found out about poe2 and is now playing it to try and farm some autistic simps to milk dry the gold diggers are getting inventive
>>740824063>No lol.Sick rebuttal bro.>As long as you have to build glory to use hammer of the gods its shit.You must be a theorycraftlet. As it stands even on titan you can basically ignore the glory costs. Glory is so irrelevant now that I don't even see why it exists. >Leap slam is not good I don't know what you're smoking.It literally does 2x more damage than the meta hollow form martial artist build everyone is running. >You ever hit that thing during a breach/abyss and you WILL die since you still fucking get hit by projectiules traveling at ground level when you're in the air.Your stun threshold from big life pool? Your armor mitigating all the tiny physical hits breach monsters do? You ARE a bad build maker, huh. >Assuming that's shit too until proven otherwise.Yea see here's the problem. Your tiny little brain can't figure out how to instantly one shot everything while levitating at 300% movespeed so you assume everything is shit. Your brain is unfixable and I'm glad idiots like you still get filtered from PoE.
>>740797651They definitely improved the game but I really need a melee class that isn't warrior using maces, insane to me how that's the only option right now
>>740802754Pot kettle
>>740825035seethe
>>740824446I usually come back to arpgs I like, play through the campaign then get burned out at some point early-ish postgame.Sounds like there's more than enough content to justify playing now then coming back for the full release, very helpful post thank you.
>>740824894As long as leap slam has unscalable attack time meaning you spend half a second standing in place charging it and half a second VERY SLOWLY floating through the air copping every chill projectile, every It That Hates chaos bolt, and every other "die mace nigger" mob projectile that exists solely to punish slow moving attacks leap slam will be shit.And that is a hill I will die on. Literally. Because I tried leap slam yesterday and lost an abyssal depth to it.The damage doesn't matter when you have a 50/50 of dying every time you use it.And the problem isn't even getting light stunned out of it, I don't think you can get light stunned out of it, its never happened to me. The problem is the projectiles applying ailments (fuck chill) or even just straight up killing you.Probably all solvable with enough investment yes. A lot of work to get a mediocre skill to just not kill you every time you press it. At which point you'd probably get more mileage out of just using mace strike.
>>740805589D4 still the best arpg around and never been best. Poe still floundering to get its basics up and failing over and over.Poe will will always be 3rd world tier l trash trying to emulate d2.
>>740821178>every skill that isn't Oil Barrage sucks cockbro your flame breath? also you got meme shit like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIzHuY8U_Zk
>>740825269ok blizztroon
>>740825160 No need when you coping and crying
>>740825269can you show me d4's best boob
>>740825323You lost fag
>>740797651Kneel, doomtrannies.
>>740822526wolf talisman skills feel so good to use even if i'm not using wolf itself. the dodging feels fluid, cross slash can animation cancel shit with slow recoveries, and pounce is goated for jumping up and down ledges. plus you get the buff from rend and mark from pounce to add to your build.
>>740825598>>740825406>>740825336blizzard discord has arrived
>>740825235I probably wouldn't have recommended it before this recent update, the campaign is fun and I do like the interludes while they exist, but beyond that there wasn't much to sink your teeth into. The endgame changes are legitimately massive and have everything feeling so much better, "endgame" has a purpose now, lots of purposes, and reasons to do things and explore. I've found myself being overwhelmed at times with how much there is to do because I actually want to do all of it.
>>740825598BTFO this whole thread with one postI kneel
>>740823097Actually I should ask.Because when when you said "its good but requires investment" I presumed you meant "low investment is bad, but high investment is good"But did you in fact mean that mace can achieve eg. QS low investment clear speed/survivability/bossing if you do high investment?In which case yes. That is true. Ish. Sometimes. If you squint hard enough and enjoy CBT.
poe 1 mogs
>>740825621They have to defend sunk cost somehow.
>>740825263>As long as leap slam has unscalable attack timeExists on tons of skills that aren't maces. You're just being a baby. So what if you can't make the animation for it instant? What's the problem?>copping every chill projectile, every It That Hates chaos boltLiterally a skill issue, with armor these do nothing.>And that is a hill I will die on. Literally. Because I tried leap slam yesterday and lost an abyssal depth to it.So the truth: you are mad cuz bad. >The problem is the projectiles applying ailments (fuck chill) or even just straight up killing you.It's almost like you have to build defensively. Every single weapon/build archetype deals with these things. You're just being a giant faggot about it because you refuse to adapt.
>>740825717>But did you in fact mean that mace can achieve eg. QS low investment clear speed/survivability/bossing if you do high investment?High investment mace can achieve similar clearspeed and boss nuking to HIGH investment quarterstaff, not just low. If you really think mace is that bad you have absolutely never played it at a high investment level before. Post your prior mace ninja/pobs
>>740825598poejeets have no answer to thisthey just cry and shit themselves
he's resorting to samefagging now
>>740823097>mace is really good>it's just worse than literally every other archetypewhy do people do this?
>>740825989Leap slam would be great if you didn't get hit by projectiles at GROUND LEVEL while you were IN THE AIR.It doesn't. Therefor its entire purpose, eg. being able to LEAP OVER THINGS does not exist.I did adapt. I adapted by chucking my leap slam skill gem on the ground and not looking back. Let me know when they fix it.
>>740813197Is that Chayula?
>>740823550thats terrible. He struggled on a lone rare for 5 seconds because his shit skill was on cooldown
>acts 1 and 4 are absolute kino>acts 2 and 3 are pretty badHow will 5 and 6 be?
>>740826278>it's just worse than every other archetypeHow so?>>740826285What kind of retarded complaint is this? It's not supposed to be a dodging ability. Do you think other leaps dodge ground level attacks? They don't. If you want to tank hits, build armor.>I refuse to play until they baby me and make me invincible and capable of 1 shotting everythingPoE will never be for you, thank fuck.
>>740826494I think interlude is stitching together whats done already of acts 5 and 6.Which means the maraketh portion of that is probably going to be absolute cancer since it'll be the crossing region but probably EVEN BIGGER.
>>740826408The snake rare at the beginning? That wasn't due to a cooldown. It's just an annoying mob that's literally invincible for 5-6 seconds at a time like an annoying cunt.
>>740825291clunk city and zdps
>>740826561IIRC GGG said that the last acts aren't related to the interlude at all, but they're planing on using the interlude chapters in endgame in some way
>>740803436I know you’re right and I wonder how they’re going to justify the game being 1.0 without key classes/weapons/skills.Six months to basically do 3x the amount of work isn’t possible.
>>740826503Whats retarded about complaining that the leap skill still takes damage from ground effects???Whats retarded about complaining that the leap skill gets hit (and frozen, leaving you literally stuck midair) by projectiles three meters below you???Fucking listen to yourself, for christ sake. Are you jonathon? Is that what this is? Please fix vaal pact there's been a bug report that it removes all your HP when you enter an instance reported on the forum like two weeks ago.
>>740826503does it clear as fast as coc? Does it have as much ehp as an es build? does it breeze through end game on low budget easier than companion/djinn? Can it scale like a bow or tactician galvanic build? The answer is no to all of those
>>740797651I am enjoying the new league
>>740826791>Whats retarded about complaining that the leap skill still takes damage from ground effects???Because it's completely normal as per every other ability. The leap is cosmetic. You assuming it has some dodge/evade mechanic that is never stated or intended is you literally making shit up to get bad about. A sign of low IQ, aka retardation.>Whats retarded about complaining that the leap skill gets hit (and frozen, leaving you literally stuck midair) by projectiles three meters below you???Use armor lil gup. Ele ailment application is based on damage. With armor to ele you will take no damage from ele hits. This is a problem you could easily solve but refuse to. Yet you complain. Another sign of low IQ. You want to play a complex game with all these intricacies, but then you complain when your build doesn't just immediately faceroll and do everything you want it to. I'm presenting you with solutions to your problems and your response is to say "nah that's gay I'll wait until they cater to me with a patch"Well unfortunately for you buddy, the devs think you're a retard too and that will never happen. Thank god. Why don't you go play torchlight if you want the game to play itself?
>ok fine you can sprint around now>but if you get hit once you'll tripwhats with the aversion to fun in this game
>>740826803>it's not as specifically good at 1 thing as the most broken builds in the game therefore it is badYou're mazed. You should probably play SSF sometime and realize how shit you are. The game balance isn't the problem; your brain is.
>>740827086>mention literally every other build and archetype>THOSE ARE ALL BROKENcucked beyond belief
>>740822526ive been playing wyvern. ive yet to find a boss i dont rape with flame breath
>>740827132>CoC and djinn and ES being 3/4 examples is "literally every archetype"You are outing yourself and don't even realize it
>Try the game when it first came out>Act 1 was amazing with actually decent boss/combat flow>By the time you hit Act 3, you are just mindlessly spamming AoE shit, and the game becomes about just watching particle effects light up on your screenThis entire genre fucking died with end game Diablo 2 and never got better.
What's with recreating an obvious /vg/ general on /v/? It's the exact same posters as the /vg/ thread
>>740827186quarterstaves use ES. Is mace comparable? How about literally any crossbow build? How about literally any bottom right side build? What archetype is mace warrior stronger than?
>>740827286The only reason I know which game you're talking about here is because you didn't mention using every ability on your bar as soon as it comes off cooldown.
>>740827325>look it's my archnemesis, poopdickschizo!!! i know it's you poopdickschizo!!!
>>740826803Why does it matter? My facebreaker character can clear all the content and I've made hundreds of divines.
>>740797651Reminder that this game is 100% owned by Tencent, considering how much shit EVERYONE gets for working with it... isn't it a bit strange how this is never mentioned in these threads?
>>740827457>facebreakers>probably on monkis that mace? bro, are you even paying attention?
>>740827340>Is mace comparable?How, nigger? Defensively? Armor absolutely shits on ES now>How about literally any crossbow build?Crossbow sans nades has been pretty mediocre since last lament got killed. Mace unironically has better clear speed, yes. >How about literally any bottom right side build?Hammer of the gods unironically does more damage than snipe. There are eartshatter, shield wall, and earthquake builds that have more AoE and damage than ice shot. >What archetype is mace warrior stronger than?This is such a loaded and retarded question, as if every build within one archetype is the same, same strength, etc. There are mace builds that are nearly invincible that can do more damage than any bowcuck build, albeit being slower-moving. How is this such a hard concept to grasp, who convinced you mace is bad when there's a litany of data for you to see it's not
>>740798085genuinely, what's taking them so long though? I get that stuff like flails are taking time to implement, but swords aren't mechanically different from clubs and spears that are already in the game
>>740827546Its on Titan bro, so yeah I count that as a fucking mace
>>740827526>considering how much shit EVERYONE gets for working with itThis isn't 2020 anymore, nobody gives a fuck about tencent
>>740827429No idea what you're getting at but you didn't answer the question. What is the point of posting in two places at the same time?
>>740827546facebreakers are worse on monk than warrior bud, and yes facebreakers literally use mace skills. so it does count as using maces, yes. jesus christ.
>>740800015F
>>740797651Maybe I'll give it a try again if they fix Arbiter of Ash (they won't)
>>740827559>mace has better clear than tactician galvanicno it doesnt lol. not even in the same ballpark
>>740803205I'm a complete tourist here. Are you talking about shit you can't sell or shit you bought you can't use?
>>740827684just avoid the one shots bro
>ARPG game>melee is useless>No swords, axes, dagger or claws nearly 2years laterIt's so obvious they have no clue at all how to balance melee or this game at all.
>>740827559Warrior's problem is unironically too much damage and too little speed. You will never clear as fast as a deadeye because they can get enough damage and then have like twice or three times your MS.
the game is still awful. needs many more years to be playable
>>740827753You clearly have not seen the various brutus builds this league. Your info is way way out of date my man.
>>740827559>How, nigger? Defensively? Armor absolutely shits on ES nowPoe.ninja lists a full half of 95-100 in HC RoA as using CI. The CI builds are disproportionately represented at the high levels, which I infer as meaning the ES based builds are living longer.Roughly one in ten builds seem to be armor tanking.What is making you think this?
>>740827286PoE2>Better skill tree>Better skillsD4>Better gear progressionBoth>Shit AoE fest for mazed out retards that don't actually like to play video gamesNightreign unironically sweeps both, and is more respectful of the player's time/money on top of it all.
>>740826408Tourist spotted, good job outing yourself.
>>740827889I actually agree with this. Damage has almost never been mace's problem, it's just speed. You can screen explode with almost literally any skill on mace/shield, but the lack of movement speed and attack speed on the tree usually sucks bigtime. This is much less of a problem now that mageblood exists, but it's still obvious that dex classes are simply intended to be faster.
>>740826361yeah
>>740827815>Just avoid the circles being drawn off the screen>Just avoid using chill (that shrinks the safety window for the circle + slam combo)>Just avoid him crashing into you as he lands, body blocking you as you try to run or leap to a circleIf I wanted to play a boss rush game I'd play one of the many many many much better ones
>>740828019HC is not a good representation of how good a defensive stat is. Players on HC will always take the best defensive that is also the easiest to invest in. ES is blue life and requires less investment, with more tools available to recover it. Armor is much stronger than ES but starts out significantly worse. But once you're casually walking around with 100k+ armor and 2-3x that to ele/chaos you are a literally unkillable machine, nothing in the game even hurts you anymore. It's so strong you barely even need recovery. A large part of why people don't do build it is public perception and that their build choices obviously prioritize the attributes for other defensives; it would make no sense to get STR to build armor on a bowcuck or staff/qs user. Varastha armor/ES is incredibly strong though
>>740828019PoE is the game where in one league Ben recommended VFoS and it was something like 15% of the playerbase.ONE. GUY.He single handedly made tens of thousands of people copy his exact build guide. PoE is just a game where people don't think for themselves. I know it is pretty bullshit way to deflect, but that is my earnest belief. Is ES stronger than Life? Yeah, overall it is, but there are tools that life has that very few people use.Why is Defiance of Destiny at a 1% playrate? It is blatantly overpowered. It has been buffed like 4 times in a row. It is stronger than PRE NERF DEFIANCE OF DESTINY IN POE1.
>>740827969no it isn't. since they removed the minion attack speed cheese theres no way to move as fast as ranged builds on melee. not even the schizo helm
>>740828261>Just avoid using chill (that shrinks the safety window for the circle + slam combo)This got fixed a long time ago >>740828370>you can't move as fast therefore it's not goodFags like you need to be culled. Just get a mageblood and stop whining you little crybaby
>>740828364>>740828363That's why I compared the levels. If it was just a matter of proportion of players then you would see the same lopsided ratios at low and high levels, but the ratio seems to skew more towards ES the higher you filter the levels for. If it were a matter of armor players have more trouble getting going but scale harder you would see them massively over represented at the peak.I don't know how I could validate this exactly; poe.ninja doesn't have a filter for "amount of armor" that would help without using a heuristic like CI for "probably not armor stacking".
>>740828364i honestly cant imagine following a build guide for likely 100+ hours, seems fucking gay
>>740828464we were literally talking about clear speed you retard. Stop continuously moving the goalpost and pretending you won
>>740797651It's getting better, but it still hasn't surpassed PoE1.
>>740828975You don't have to have the same movement speed to have the same clear speed as another build, retard. Warrior can one shot the entire screen just like any other build. It moving from pack to pack at 160% movespeed instead of 180% is not as impactful as you'd like to make it seem. Nobody is shifting the goalposts you're just a metabrained moron that cannot fathom non-meta being similarly strong
>>740828898>Travel nodes to jewel sockets, and pick up crit nodesDamn bro, hard game to master.The skill tree is performantive trash with almost no good options.
>>740820521>ecelebs >>740820589No they nerfed it no more spark or coc sparks
It's pretty garbage so far and I'm not even past act 1 yet. Enemies are so sparse compared to the last game and the entire horror vibe is pretty dead. You can tell half of these NPCs are self-inserts for some dweeb at the office. Diablo 4 was definitely superior, not that either game boils down to much more than click spam and dodge. I need to find something better to do on my pc.
>>740829379>D4>better than anything Lol
>>740829379Breaking news, D4 fag lacks the attention span to play a game for more than an hour and has already decided his master's game is superior. What a high-quality post, as always from these folk.
I enjoyed D4 more because the crafting was easy to follow and builds were easy to flip flop between, and SSF wasn't difficult considering I got to 10B+ damage on stuff I found on the ground + crafted. Can never be said for poe2, will see you all in 1.0 though for the next wave of shitposting>>740828898too true, I think I spent more hours in the /vg/ poe2 than actually playing it this league LMAO
>>740829379Not even trying blizztroon
>>740829497Anyone playing any IARPG that isn't D1 is a brainrot retard, so glass houses and all that.
>>740801516We have a new queen now.
>>740829379>I'm not even past act 1 yet.
>>740829571You have literal autism if D1 is the only ARPG you're playing after all these years. It has absolutely zero replayability.
It's still the same as the old game but worse.
>>740829646it's not the same then if its worse
>>740829643>I can't replay a game if it isn't an endless skinnerbox you mindlessly wade through waves of useless trash whose only real threatening move they can do is leave behind an on death effect thay relies entirely on the playerbase not even paying attention to what they are doing as a means to kill them>The playerbase also want this removed, btw
I played D4 when the new expansion came out. The last time I played was release. I skipped every league.It was the same fucking game. All they did was add a few new systems. The talent tree took away passives but then just put the equivalent power back in just leveling up skills. Everything is a stat stick. Your ring gets the same flat armor roll as your chest piece. Your weapon just says DAMAGE WHEN VULNERABLE DAMAGE OVER TIME +INT and other boring statstick bullshit.
>>740829497I don't need to play past the cemetery to see that they didn't get rid of this cartoonish shit they started doing with Izarro. Up to and including Malachi, things were pretty grim-looking in the first one and believably horrible and rotten. Now it's almost Larian levels of corny. It just doesn't sell itself as some world I care about learning. The character selection was kinda cool, I guess.
melty
>promised myself I'd play for a couple hours and drink a couple beers>it's almost 5am and I'm 18 beers deepFucking hell man
SAAR
>>740829970>drinking 18 beers in one night, aloneAnon, a videogame addiction is the least of your problems.
>>740826737They'll probably make the interludes into the atlas mastery quests, you'll basically just do the interlude to unlock them.
>>740829921>realized they gave the witch's tits jiggle physics Just kidding. 10/10.
>>740829839>"D4 items are just stat sticks!">PoE2 itemization is just gambling on items that are +Skill, +Damage Type, and/or +Crit, effectively making them stay sticks, but with I finite failure rates to Breckinridge your items, forcing you on an endless treadmill until you get your stat stickPoEniggers like to pretend their game has depth because it floods you with useless shit.
>>740830284All the female characters have giga boob physics. Wiggle them in char select
>>740829646It's extremely obvious you don't play the game, so why comment?
>>740827563The sword isn't but they need to add like 20 new skill gems for each new weapon
>>740830672Wrong on all counts, dilator
>>740827563>but swords aren't mechanically different from clubs and spearsThey are trying to make it different.
Wake me up when they add SLAYER and SWORDS. Also preferably CYCLONE and lots of AOE.Until then, 2 is inferior to 1.
>>740798224Resistances / immunities are a good solution but i-arpg gamers are not ready for that discussion because diablo 2s talent system was garbage and tainted the idea for the next 30 years
>>740830672Bro it has nothing to do with that. I fundamentally dislike the idea that a regular random ring gives the same flat armor role as a chest piece. That is the one thing PoE does right. Each piece of gear feels a bit different. Chest pieces and helmets are the bulk of your flat defenses, with gloves often being utility and boots being about MS or a crazy unique, etc.
>>740797651is this worth fifteen buckaroosI don't know if it's sale fomo that makes me wanna get it or if I truly wanna play
>>740831349>"Bro, what cool build am I gonnaean in on?">AoE spamfest skill where everything is bought via trade to do nothing but increase damage and add ES for defense>"Damn bro, I think I'm onto something here! Just need a +7 on [skill] and this item is JUUUUUUUUUUUUUICED!"Fucking spare me
>hey, anon, this puzzle game is pretty well made and quite challenging>awesome, I will try it!>looks up a guide on exactly how to solve the puzzle step by minuscule step, babying you level by level, with literally every little puzzle piece laid out and organized and labelled for you, written by a person that's put in hundreds of hours testing the solution itself and thousands of hours in the game overall>also here's the leveling video from level 1 to 70>UHHHHHH ANON YOU LIED TO ME THIS PUZZLE GAME IS SOOOOOO BORING AND EASY AND THERE'S NO CHALLENGEBased retards.
>>740831397If you like ARPGs, there's really no better game. You will definitely get your money's worth in terms of gameplay hours. If anything I will say there's no better ARPG campaign in terms of first-time challenge.
>>740831606You sound molested.
>>740831608do you really think path of building is intuitive at all like walkthrough?
>>740829379Read the OP. You. Lost.
>>740803436I just want a standard league that won't get wiped
>>740831959Yeah, ecelebs have taken to laying out what you should be doing every 10 levels.
>>740831992standard league exists right now you dumb fucking retard
>>740808106trueand poe2 is worse
>>740831905Sorry your favorite genre is mind-numbingly stupid feeder pellet tier shit for cattle, but you chose for it to be this way.
>>740832225You're definitely molested. Now full blown gay.
>>740829379>You can tell half of these NPCs are self-inserts for some dweeb at the office.It's true... the NPCs and PC dialogue are super cringe. Every class is an extra strong woman, or a zesty retard.
>>740832027it is not the same standard league that will be there on releasebasically there will standard (EA) and regular standard. I don't want to play in standard (EA) cause it will be dead longterm
>>740797651eh, i'm too busy to care right now honestly
>>740822526It's pretty fun when you have your wolf bros also ravaging the targets
>>740829379>half of these NPCs are self-inserts>GGG has potentially multiple exhibitionist sluts with big tits in their officefucking GGG is holding out on us
>>740832282>zesty retard but enough about diabhomo
>>740832340what gaem
>>740832452lolhaven't even played that (warlock)
>>740832325Tough shit crybaby.
>>740832340I am extremely hyped.
>Runic wardUseless>Le modifier from uniques rune!Cost more than a mageblood>Reworked ascendancies!!!Chronomancer is even worse now because of the node swaps and they just slapped a 10 second "Kill everything around you" ability on Chayula
>>740829104>you dont have to move at the same speed to ahve the same clear speedThe term is "clear SPEED". It is literally intrinsic to the definition that speed is the relevant stat. If I blow up a screen in 2 seconds I am slower than someone that blows it up in 0.5. Come the fuck on now
>>740832626>Repulsion/Refutation/Grim Pillars>uselessWay to out yourself as a colossal retard
>>740832668totems are fucking horrid
>>740832721Retard.
>>740797651I'm a poe2 hater but the new endgame seems to have won and beat all the haters. I just don't like the actual game now. The slower speed and downtime between packs is like a giga reminder "you are wasting your life" but poe1 is atleast fast enough to ignore that. It's like that ronnie comic where the computer turns to black and he looks like a fucking loser in its reflect, thats poe2 every pack for me
>>740832668>Grim pillarsThe ability thats only good on totems because theres no runic cost and bypassing the cast speed? gone by the next patch>Refutationalready nerfed to garbage>Repulsion lmao
>>740832769skill issue
>>740832778Yep, confirmed retard. You don't play the game.
>>740832869>No argumentI accept your concession, tourist-kun
If I have to go to a wiki or youtube for information, that is even alt tab ONCE, that is bad game design
>>740832739>constant screen clutter>2 button combo on a slow totem build>body blocked by your own skillit's one of the worst builds i've ever played and a complete meme
>still no RF
The act 3 monkey solos the entire game until like red maps
>>740833432retard
>story is exactly the same as d2wow poe devs really have no shame
>>740831349Wrong.Rings give like half the armor and life any defensive piece gets, while also not having access to innate armor (sans specific effects on Uniques) or Armor temper crafting. Amulets can give a similar amount to body armor but they're sort of catch all multi purpose items in D4Meanwhile Rings and Amulets can be pretty fucking strong in PoE2 due to access to either flat defense or additive defense values like in the passive tree, or even new crafted modifiers that make the affix increase armour/evasion/energy shield from equipped body armor.Its pretty fucking strong honestly.
>>740832492even after telling you how busy i am, you still wanna be spoon-fed? pathetichttps://youtu.be/tPkY0ai0Poc?si=2U77RGGYyp1eTH-o
>>740832340i finished this shit in a day i dont know why you faggots pretend its gods gift
>>740832340Busy doing what, waiting ANOTHER TWO MONTHS for fangs?>>740834516>PretendBut we don't. It is god's gift.
>>740834516What are you expecting to hear? Sorry you have shit taste in games?You're welcome, now fuck off.
>>740834563>>740834569hit a nerve oof sorry not sorry
>>740834563something like that.now fuck off
>>740834516POE haters will prop up any piece of shit (even D4, the biggest piece of shit ever). They've been doing this for a very long time.
>>740834962never said i hated it. would just prefer to play a finished game rather than an early access one. thats all
>>740828364a bit tangential to the conversation, but i find it best to ignore all PoE content creation for like the first 2 weeks of a league. for me it just ends up sucking the joy out seeing the "standard" we're supposed to follow, being full timers with air traffic control live trade setups, red maps in 4 hours, 1000 divs, use this meta build, etc etc.comparison is the thief of joy and all that.
>>740834808Sorry jonathon, grim dawn is just a better game! Not sure how else to tell you!
>>740806960this is practically all true if you know how to play both games, most of the people on 4chan suck at poe2 and poe1 and barely understand how the systems in each game actually work.
>>740806379lol do it
>>740804834retard
>>740832452playing this rn. game aged like milk, feels very barebones. still the best video game music thoughever
>>740837527The nostalgia is strong but vanilla is just boring now. Project Diablo 2 is fun, but it is literally just "What if D2 was like PoE?" and it is at best a novelty to play once or twice.
>>740831349D4 pieces have pretty defined uses because of what category of legendary powers and tempers they get. Like iirc rings don't get defensive powers so they are nothing like your chest armor. What sucks is there's a pretty obvious best item for every slot that's not too hard to get and everything that's not BiS is just plain worse with no real upside.
the doomies are afraid
Wow this grim dawn game must be really popular let me ju.... oh no no no...
>game filters out chuds like asswithshit>blizznigs on full copium alert>elon is perma banned and forever seethingStay winning GGG. I wish you many years of success.
>>740838753Good.Fewer browns to complain about m-muh endgame.Grim dawn is for patrician lore note readers ONLY
>>740802581Lmao. Just lmao.
I ain't touch trade in poe2 even once.
>>740797651This Temu Diablo will never be good
>>740803279Been rolling SSF only this league, hard disagree. Got a plant nigga, spiritwalker monke (was crossbows, but the projectile stuff on spiritwalker was underwhelming so switched to monkey deep into maps) and now a siege cascade tactician build all at 90+. I'm farming sekhemas trying to get time-lost jewels and hunting for citadels to farm Arbiter for the unique gloves.I'm having a lot more fun this league than previous leagues. It's just a bit luck based, as you'd expect. It's nice to actually have to bother to check loot on the ground and engage with the crafting options we have, rather than just ignoring it all, looting currency off the ground only, then buying the best shit I can afford then getting bored by day 5 and quitting til next league.
>>740816939Lich is right fucking there. Right there. You give your minions Unholy Might, which is huge.
>>740826561we already know act 5 is going to oriath, some totally different location.
>>740816164The real question my fellow skelebro is WHERE THE FUCK IS IRON MASS?This thing is so cool
>>740826561act 5 is oriath, this shit's already been known for yearsact 6 is end of the worldthe interludes are recycled content patched together, everything that happens in it isn't canon to the actual campaign
>>740827559>Crossbow sans nades has been pretty mediocre since last lament got killedhey I'm playing that now. Found a LL with 660 top end damage, higher than any crossbow I've found so far (checking every single one) and the unique skill on it absolutely saved my single target damage. Gets to 1 milly tooltip dps and I've still got a ton of damage upgrades to come. If this is it in its nerfed state it must have been fucking busted before.
>>740805324Why doesn't yours have all the glowy tattoos?
Delirium is a shit mechanic
