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Tropical vibes
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>>740854793
Can't minmax into using the orc slayer as early as chapter 2 while being close to 60% in one-handed mastery. I guess
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is it worth it to uprgade armor or should I just wait till a new one is available?
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is this actually hard or hard in the sense the retards are trying to kill Lord Master of Darkness The Undying with their rusty dagger and hobo clothes?

also controller yes/no?
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so how you guys liking the upgrade system for camp armors? not sure how I feel about it desu, either let me upgrade every armor I can get or not, feels half assed
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>>740854816
STRAIGHT OUTTA OLD CAMP
CRAZY MOTHAFUCKA NAMED NAMELESSDUDE
FROM THE GANG CALLED DIGGAS WITH ATTITUDE
WHEN I'M CALLED OFF, I GOT A SHORT SWORD
SWING IT ONCE AND WOLVES ARE ALL HAULED OFF
YOU TOO, MUD, IF YOU SPEAK TO ME
THE GOMEZ'S MEN WILL HAVE TO COME AND GET ME
OFF YO ASS THAT'S HOW I'M GOING OUT
FOR THE PUNK MOTHERFUCKERS WHO KEEP POPPING UP
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>>740854889
everything that doesn't have "juvenile" in name will oneshot you at first
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>>740854878
it's OP in fact and nuggies are everywhere
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Enjoy the magic ore you fucks. There are like 8 chunks in the entirety of G2.
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>>740854816
ISLAND VIBES
SHIRT UNBUTTONED
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>>740854958
where did it go?
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>>740854958
>In the base game of Gothic 2, there are exactly 25 Lumps of Ore scattered across the world, but if you play the Night of the Raven (NotR) expansion, that number increases to 37.
Okay, maybe not.
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>>740854997
We used it to blow the barrier.
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reminder that old camp fags managed to fuck up 2 mines in span of 10 years
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why people pretend there was some big camradiere between nameless hero, milten etc? We don't adventure together at fucking all
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>>740854915
reminder that all of the live action remakes of classic animated disney films were all more successful than the originals
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>>740855129
but we can adventure FOR them, like in 2 diego drops his wallet in hitler rape zone and sends you to recover it
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Does anyone remember Forsaken Gods?
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I love cleansing cities..
Nearly done I think.
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>>740854998
Which is pretty bs considering there have to be millions of pieces all around and it's not like the ore rots away.
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>>740855209
Unfortunately I do but only like the first 15 minutes of it.
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>>740855067
2nd one was the sleeper so it doesn't count. In the og it happened because they mined the wrong spot.
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>>740855260
I think all of the remaining ore got collected by the paladins when the barrier collapsed and used for smithing. Other deposits probably got hit by the orcs.
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>>740855232
It is a german game after all
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>>740855338
And what did the orcs do with it? Ore soup?
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>>740855338
Well the pallies don't run around with ore weapons and Milten says they haven't gathered a single chest.
Orks makes sense thought, it would be nice to get a quest with the Paladins to storm the ork barrier and get it all back. Nice end game quest for when you are strong enough to clear the map anyway.
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>gathering the stones
>start with Gorn and the dinosaurs
>the place is expanded and more fun to explore
Fucking based
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>>740854816
Obvious teasing for Gothic 2 Remake and Jarkendar.

Weird change though that they made Saturas ultimately agree with us and let us destroy the pile. Him being mad at us in 2 and us winning back his trust was honestly pretty cool.
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>>740855373
Nicht nur sauber, sondern rein.
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>>740855393
I think they forge stuff with it. It's just that their stuff is more raw than the stuff made out of ore and blessed by Innos on top of it.
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I almost forgot how incompetent everyone is
>retard Milten lost a book to goblins
>Nyras, useless stoner faggot won't bother to come to the cave with you
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>>740855373
Going pretty well too.
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I really like the expanded content. Loved the addition of Orc Language and orcs actually having more to do and more interactions than just Ur-Shak and Tarrok.

Also they adjusted plot to be more in line with Gothic 2 and gods having bigger influence and importance, though the game implies that Sleeper is his own thing and not a demon of Beliar.
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what circles summon spells are? I wonder what can I summon as a weed ganger since I imagine I won't get much in damage department late game
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>>740855432
The spaniards did nail the aesthetics of what an Adanos temple should look like. Still a little bit inspired by christianity like the Fire Temple but still different.
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>>740855418
>Well the pallies don't run around with ore weapons and Milten says they haven't gathered a single chest.
This is probably AFTER they got sieged by the orcs. I'm talking about the events that predate those. Like the whole point is to collect as much as possible and send it to Myrtana so that Rhobar could continue waging the war against the orcs. I doubt they were gonna use it in masse in Khorinis. Also, the magic was still a thing in 2 so it's not like they have to rely on melee weapons as much.
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>>740855570
Unlike 2, in 1 it's actually easy to spec in most of the things. It's completely possible to be a mage wielding a 2 handed sword etc.

2 with NotR made things way more difficult and restricted and you do have to actually think about what you're speccing into.
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these threads are just the same 2 shills replying to each other and themselves
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I am king now!
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>>740855509
That's Talas and yeah. I can get Milten since he was tired and out of Mana and there were many gobbos. Don't forget mage robes also have trash defense stats.
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>>740855661
it's because NOTR is shit
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>>740855698
It's peak Gothic actually. Jarkendar is great, the atmosphere is amazing and the quests for pirates and bandits are the best in the series.
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Does 3 even explain as to why the orcs are way more organized than they are in 1 and I guess in 2 (to some degree). Like those niggas are willing to cooperate with humans (although not in Nordmar, regardless what your reputation with them is, which always seemed kinda weird to me) and they speak human language. The ones in 1 and 2 barely do and look like primitive tribes in comparison.
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>>740855739
it's stupid and gay and ruins the pacing
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>>740855739
Based, not to mention the pirate beach is the comfiest place in Khorinis. Motherfuckers have prime real estate.
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>1 (right), 1 (right), 1 (right), 1 (right), 3 (right), 1 (right), 2 (left), 6 (right), 3 (right), 1 (right), 2 (left),
>6 (right), 3 (right), 1 (right), 2 (left), 6 (right), 3 (right), 1 (right), 2 (left), 6 (right), 3 (right), 1 (right),
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>2 (left), 4 (left), 7 (left), 2 (left), 3 (right), 2 (left), 4 (left), 7 (left), 7 (left), 7 (left)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-WEyGtJEjk
Jarkendar had some nice moozak
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>>740855782
The orcs in G3 are a different, more advanced tribe from the far north, beyond even nordmar
Khorinis orcs are basically their primitive cousins
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>>740855782
yes, apparently it's a different subspecies and the ones from 1,2 are giganiggas and in 3 you have a result of letting leftist win the elctions
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>>740855475
who lived here?
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>>740855739
It completely torpedoes the pacing of the main game, which was already suffering from bad plot without it.
It's a very good standalone adventure otherwise.
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>>740855859
That's Milten's Secret Shag Shack
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>>740855164
so you're saying that success doesn't matter and never did for judging the value of a media?
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>>740855859
Probably a farmer of some sort.
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>>740855859
ur mom b4 she got so fat she blew the roof out
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>>740855859
John Gothic
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>>740855815
as a genius yes the lockpicking game is way too hard for normies, its super easy to me though so suck a dick
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>wokes your game
heh nothing personel kid
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>>740855815
>install mod that makes lockpicking easy
Just so you know this is morally right
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>>740855957
>watch some big german gothic youtuber spend 20 minutes on a lock before giving up
>he just tried to bruteforce it the entire time
>zero thought going on just pushing locks in and out
so these are the people that think the lockpicking is too hard
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>>740856028
germans are not really people per se
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>>740855957
>I'm good at a repetitive and completely pointless minigame
I'm happy for you.
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I want to die I want to fucking die. My life is worthless I wanna see my gut slit.
I hit the fucking quickload instead of quicksave and lost all my progress.
I want to FUCKING DIE I WANT TO DIE I WANT TO DIE I WANT TO DIE
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>>740856132
>not saving manually every 3 minutes
Your own fault
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>>740855859
Retarded placement for a castle.
Those walls are pointless.
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>>740855992
which ones are the new ones
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>>740856207
I TRIED but I LOADED instead
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Finally got kitted out bros. Also got my revenge on bullit.

Also, are 2handed/crossbows locked off until another chapter? They all talk about warder this etc and i'm guessing the ranks progress through each chapter?
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>>740856289
>are 2handed/crossbows locked off until another chapter
yea
warders actually get early access to crossbow training in chapter 3, everyone else has to waito until chapter 4.
You'll need to beat up someone with a crossbow and take it though, they're not sold by merchants until chapter 4.
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>>740856289
Bullit should have a crossbow on him
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>>740854816
wtf is wrong with the lighting?
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>>740856525
UE
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>>740856289
crossbows are complete ass
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>>740856269
that's why you stick quickload on like f11 or f12
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I can visualize and outline the entire map of g2 in me head. Can't say the same about g1.
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>>740856795
I just tore the keycap out
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Never played this but is it fun being a mage in this game?
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>>740856965
Probably more than any other class desu. Not early on though.
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>>740856965
Yes but you only become a proper one start of chapter 3 but you can get a novice level runes from Torrez
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>>740855209
First and only game i've ever heard of that was developed by an actual indian studio
and it fucking shows
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>>740857289
Todd Howards Saarfield too
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>>740857407
This was waaaay before the industry got jeeted though
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Got best armor, best ring, best amulet, best sword.
Time to slay more cities.
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>exploring the swamp while dodging the sharks
>stumble upon this little shrine
I know that symbol, it stands for Beliar
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>>740857791
I sold it for like 3 nuggets.
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>playing Gothic Remake on my potato PC on the lowest settings in stable 30fps
It's like I'm back in the 2000s.
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lockpicking is just a guessing game again but way worse
demake
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>>740857958
30 was how it ran regardless of what your pc was in 01 since that's how the engine was coded.
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Can you actually bet in the Old Camp arena? I tried to do it but Scatty says there is no fight even though I see them fighting in the arena. I was wondering if I could cheese nuggets early on
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I'm playing on Linux and I can't swap FSR to 4 for the life of me. Every upscaling option turns the game worse. Sad
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>shoot a scavenger
>it makes a strange sound and takes basically no damage
>what the fuck is a snapper
>oh fug
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>>740854915
this is a dumb image don't ever post it again
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they are called scavengers yet will actively hunt you down curious isn't it?
I blame the jews
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why does this game look like it was released in 2010
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>you can’t rest spam
It’s ogre
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>>740858274
>I'm playing on Linux
holy neckbeard
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Is there any actual use for the spell scroll where you can transform into a molerat or is that more of a novelty
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>Powered by Unreal Engine 5
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>>740858504
>you can't sleep in owned beds because NPC will kick you out
It sucked in Risen 1 and it sucks here.
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I do like that the remake kept the scavengers goofy clucking sound.
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>>740857459
Did you talk to Stone about improving the armor?
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I got myself the fire storm rune, the fire tornado thigny, and the game became 100x easier. Any big mob/boss gets one shot by it, unless it has fire resist like giant shadowbeast, that took only 80% of its hp as dmg from 2 fire storms. But when I visited the fire mages temple in the snowy tundra region, the giant frost shadobest died in 2 fire storms probably because it's of cold variant so it's no longer immune to fire that much. Also got myself a circle 5 fire run of fire rain, nice lon lasting aoe.
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>>740858734
For me it's the player death sound. I hope it rings in the first timers' ears forevermore
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>>740858661
As a shadow I once tried to sleep in a small room in the garrison because the word bed wasn't red. Niggers not only woke me but 15 motherfuckers were half aggroed telling me to fuck off while blocking the only exit.
Fucking hell, I'll sleep with the diggers from here on.
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>>740858734
wish they had kept the orc sounds, especially the aggro/de-aggro ones
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BAGAWK
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>>740858871
Orks are more generic in the remake both design wise and how they fight. New ones are basically bigger humans while the og were more like relentless armed animals.
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Okay so.. how am I supposed to kill this thing? When act 4 starts, all mages hate me, nobody sells me anything, everyone hates me.
So like.. console commands?
Cause he's immune to everything that isn't magic but I'm not a mage.
Console commands, right?
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Oh, wait, I thought these 4 would be like a case of you going around doing jobs with them one at a time and then making them progressively team up until becoming, well, a team. I didn't expect they just show up all at once out of nowhere already being a team.
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>>740855475
>establishing a settlement at literally the lowest level of the valley
Do germans really?
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>>740858921
This should be the younger variant.

>>740858976
Use a hammer or blunt weapon you daft cunt.
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>>740854816
Looks like shit, also
>slopmake

Goycattle rise up!
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>>740859016
It works since all of them have been in the colony for years so I can accept the retcon but the writers can eat dogshit for giving us the "good question for another time" bs
Just make something up
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>>740858274
Use optiscaler maybe? With DLSS instead of FSR?
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>>740859035
Oh, well that was pathetic..
I always hated gothic for that.. even when I was 9 years old and played this, I always thought this was garbage ass game design.. the game just makes you guess at random what u are supposed to do..
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>>740859168
I thought the golem test was the shit as a 9 year old
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>>740859168
>guess
Try using a hammer irl to break a stone and then try using a sword
Retard
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>>740859168
It's your own fault you retard. Saturas literally tells you to take their books and read, nigga, read.
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>>740859168
jesus, what the fuck is going on with the graphics?
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>>740859234
I have never finished a gothic before.. well once, about 1-2years ago, gothic 3.. and I played them all a good 50 times. I just went around and killed everyone and everything because the internet didn't exist so everything was absolute nonsense.
>>740859304
Which say that this strat doesn't work, nigger faggot.
>>740859281
>irl
rope yourself, black nigger
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>>740859124
>"good question for another time" bs
Yeah, would have been just as fast to just say "We all were here at the beginning when the barrier was created" or "We've done jobs in the past" or even possibly "We all were thrown in at the same time".
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>>740859350
The graphics? seem fine to me.
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>>740859354
You fucking mouth breather, the golem book in the WM library tells you that blunt weapons work
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>>740859354
You are a braindead german monkey
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>>740859432
No it doesn't, it says it works against stone golems. Not against fire golems. Go back to school, murimutt
>>740859453
Wow.. what an insult. Copied that from reddit?
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>>740858826
It's funny, because the game now plays 2 player death sounds at the same time, the new, more "realistic" one and the old, corny one. Dunno why, but I guess that's nostalgia.
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>>740859124
not really a retcon since the official comic back in the day established that they were pals who met in prison before they were thrown into the barrier
https://bin.gothicarchive.org/promotion/comic/GothicComic.pdf
but yeah could have been explained when they hit you with that first group meet
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>>740855859
Can you get in other way than transform into meatbug?
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Tropical Gothic? Isn't that just Risen?
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>>740858976
it dies in 5 seconds from any ice magic spells. I killed it in 5 seconds with the most basic level 1 ice bolt rune. If all mages hate you, check out xardas for scrolls.
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Where can I find more mage gear? I got the fire rune Torrez and mana ring from Cronos.
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>>740859564
Huh, never knew about that
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Can you fuck Velaya this time around?
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>>740859620
Xardas
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>>740859618
>check out Xardas to kill the thing u need to visit Xardas
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>>740856525
idk. what's wrong ?
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>>740859578
You know what should they do? Admit that risen is part of gothic universe and remake that for tropical kino
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>>740858286
Disingenuous, nobody would have known that if you didn't post about it whereas video game remakes are marketed as them, non-stop as well as shilled.
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>>740860020
Risen starts by saying some Hero btfo all the Gods which doesn't really work for Gothic.
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>>740859490
Knowing that you're a literal retard, you cant really insult me
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>>740855432
>Gorn still doesn't do jack and enters only to loot the place once you're done
Fuck him
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>>740860072
that's just 3 xardas ending
also I think intro says that necromancer or some mage banished them
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>>740860127
Yeah a powerful mage was mentioned but I don't even like that since all the Gods of Gothic are pretty cool and great additions to the lore and world building.
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>>740860056
ehh theres other film remakes like magnificent seven which straight up tells you that its a remake of seven samurai
the overall point i would push is that you should treat remakes on a case by case basis
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>>740860229
eh i've never liked the gods wankery since it also introduced muh chosen one and fighting forces of darkness shit
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why wolves don't drop meat anymore?
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>>740860426
they never did in 1
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>>740860275
You can have gods without chosen one bullshit but unfortunately Gothic 2 has a bad story, at least nobody really treats you as the chosen one. Hell they barely react even if you're a fucking mage.
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>>740854816
Is that playable on 3060?
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>>740860506
works fine on 3070 if that helps
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>>740859915
Wait... I just realized what a retarded thing I typed. Completely forgot the golem is needed to access xardas in the first place.
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>>740859620
Baal Cadar in the swamp camp sells stuff
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"You are the chosen one" works in Gothic 2 because nobody believes it or cares.
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>>740860426
Wolf meat is trash for human consumption, nobody would eat it unless they had absolutely no other alternative.


>>740860506
Ye, it runs ok on mine but get some optimization mod or it will run at 70 C
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>>740860541
1920 or higher?
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patch fucking when I want to start new playthrough
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>>740860584
oh but eating the fucking bugs is alright?
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>>740860571
I think being an ex-convict and having to hide the fact kind of offsets the chosen one business a little
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>>740860594
2560, everything very high, dlss on quality preset
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>>740860636
Zou vill eat ze bug
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>>740860571
Still a bad trope but they needed a reason for the Nameless Hero to come back without the best armour, skills and sword in the entire Kingdom.

>>740860636
Pure protein. The bugs also aren't dangerous.
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>>740860584
>>740860689
Thanks :D
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One thing I hate about this remake: the acknowledge Gothic 3 as canon. Like mentioning druids and other retarded shit from 3. The game should be forgotten.
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>>740855164
I wonder how successfull these remakes would have been without the animated films that came before. It is a lot easier to be successfull if you already have something established.
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>>740860828
Those are lore and story additions, not the game itself. Not everything about it was bad afterall. They can take whatever they like from G3 as long as it is remade properly.
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>>740860828
G3 becomes alright after you install mods.
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>>740855815
all you have to do is study some group theory, then it's easy
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Welp now that Gothic has been played through, guess I just wait another few years for the next big RPG game. God I hate how infrequent good RPG games are. I pray they fast track Gothic 2 with the same everything just the new enviroment and story.
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>>740860828
Gothic 3 isn't even bad. The bad one is Arcania, which was so bad the devs took their own IP back after a lawsuit and forced Arcania to drop Gothic 4 from their title.
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HATE THE SWAMP CAMP
DARK EVEN DURING THE DAY
LAYOUT IS CONFUSING AS FUCK
EVERYONE IS HIGH OR MENTALLY ILL
FUCKING DISGUSTING WORM - SNAKE SHIT CRAWLING EVERYWHERE

JUST NAPALM THIS CAMP
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>>740861130
>Gothic 3 isn't even bad.
It's trash. The new models especially look nothing like the og and none of the factions feel anything like 2, barely has any soul.
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She's kicking my fucking ass.
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>>740861130
Arcania is soulless action RPG shit but at least it works and even has a story, even if it sucks.
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>>740861276
You either arrowed or fire blasted her from the tunnel. Don't think you have the ammo for that bro.
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>>740859354
If you didn't at least suspect that a blunt weapon might be the way to go for something that obviously cannot be stabbed or cut, then that's on you, sorry
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>>740855475
It this modded? Screenshots I can find show this game as fogslop.
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>>740861398
Most people have, like me, used engine edits or mods to disable the soul-sucking fog.
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>>740861230
Well good thing the upcoming remake can remedy that, huh?
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>>740861471
>Most people have, like me, used engine edits or mods to disable the soul-sucking fog.
I just turned off depth of field which adds distance blur anyways and my game didn't have fog.
Has it really gotte nto the point to where people cannot even change in game settings and install mods to do it for them? Like the fuck?
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>>740861350
Did it. With mah sword. Still took a bit of kiting into the tunnel to get some breathing room so I could heal and take down the little shits, but hey.
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>>740861484
Remake also looks very different, true but by Adanos those moors actually captured the feel and sovl of Gothic 1.
I played 3 years after it was out and even though I could play it, the game basically never felt like anything from the previous entries and over the years I have started to hate it. G3 might be nice for exploring and have decent music but it might as well not be a Gothic game when it comes to anything else.

>>740861612
I have played with the setting but there is no Fog setting in the options. I also don't want to spend hours tweaking UE until it doesn't look like shit while not melting my fucking GPU.

>>740861656
Good job anon
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>>740861612
>my game didn't have fog
Post a screenshot at the same location >>740855475
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Ulu-mulu
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the fuck is this place, I can hear some real disgusting moans from down there
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>>740862007
You'll see it yourself later in the story.
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Where the fuck can I get some armour that isn't just rags?
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>>740862071
join a camp
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>>740861779
>G3 might be nice for exploring and have decent music but it might as well not be a Gothic game when it comes to anything else.
Well this time the devs won't have a publisher threatening them to change things to be more like Oblivion and to compete with it. So they are free to make Gothic 3 Remake what it should of been in their vision.
Most people on this board probably weren't alive then, but Gothic 3 got almost completely scrapped because Gothic's publishers freaked out over the Elder Scrolls Oblivion reveal.
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>>740862135
Yeah I had no idea but it figures that publishers will do retarded things. At least they ended up eating shit too. Thankfully THQ isn't that flavour of retarded.
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I beat Kirgo and Kharim but Gor Hanis refuses to fight me. Can I actually challenge him?
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>>740862259
Your stats need to be higher, including Mana and he will.
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>>740861612
>people cannot even change in game settings
>depth of field which adds distance blur
Well it seems you don't even know what settings you're changing because depth of field doesn't add distance blur in that game.
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Remember when the crawler queen was a joke?
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>>740862330
this is a stupid desgin choice
>you need fucking mana on a warrior build to challenge another warrior
nigger
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>>740855782
>>740855782
>Does 3 even explain as to why the orcs are way more organized than they are in 1 and I guess in 2
The entire game is a battle between Innos(Human God) and Beliar(Orc God), and Innos got shitfucked by Adanos, so Innos felt bad and selfcucked by sealing a part of himself, and was weakened so humans are basically on their own and later on lose the ability to use magic, so that allows the orcs to just steamroll humanity.
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>>740862450
Templers are hybrid builds, they can cast a few spells of their own similar to Paladins. He is also a true believer and Mana is a form of spirituality.
So get on his level.
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Is it just me or do the attacks of wildlife extend far beyond their model? Bloodflies in particular seem to hit much further than their model suggests.
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>>740862506
All of that is retarded. G3 needs to be rewritten from scratch. They can start by explaining why the Hero lost all his gear and abilities during a voyage on sea.
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>>740857459
the armors in this game are kinda shit
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>>740862649
that's easy
ship sank far from shore, hero barely managed to survive titanic and drifted to the shore on piece of wood
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>>740862690
U might be retarded. I just flattened all of this without ever blocking or dodging. I just mash till they die.
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>>740863339
i mean they look bad visually for the eyes
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>>740863478
I am used to gothic 2 and 3. You are spoiled by AAA slop.
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LAWDY LAWD
NO I IZ DA MOS' RICHES DIGGA IN TOWN
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>>740861276
Rush to her side and spam combos
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>>740863546
original gothic armor looks better HOWEVER
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>>740863652
Kill yourself
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>>740862135
It's why everything has so much fucking shitty bloom in gothic 3.
Literally Todd Howard.
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>>740862715
That may explain the missing gear but nothing else. If my dude was a mage he is still going to be a mage after some swimming.
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>>740863831
He hit his head really hard and lost memory
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>>740863831
he won't because all runes were turned off
just throw in hit to the head and that he had to recover for a month in some fisherman shack or whatever
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Risen remake when?
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>>740863865
>>740863905
How about an idea that shouldn't go fuck itself?
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>>740855686
Yeah original Gothic wasn't good and didn't need a remake. They're trying to make it out like a series where the 3rd installment's most difficult enemy is a boar because it stunlocks you is a flawed masterpiece that needs to be shared with the masses.
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>>740854889
Its only hard for the first hour or two and that's intentional because the designers want you to feel like a completely untrained rookie.
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>>740863950
I actually think it would be a funny theme if the nameless digga would lose memory between every game, finding new ways to lose it every time.
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This is one of those games where if you make daylight look good suddenly you can't see shit at night, and if you make nighttime look good, by day it's all washed out and dogshit
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>>740864254
Even so, surely there's something better than
>bonk on the head
I will even accept Beliar himself trying to split his head for fucking up the dragons.
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>>740860117
He solo'd the troll for me since it was effectively immune to fire bolt.
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oooh I bet this has a quest attached to this. Maybe some sort of treasure hunt?
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>>740864380
Precisely my experience.
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>>740864394
alright
after losing his gear and barely making to the shore he gets captured by orcs and spends next year in dungeon
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>>740859567
At the end of Chapter 3, Milton leads you to a secret tunnel to there from the castle.
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>>740863917
I don't think it needs a remake, it even got patched a few years ago with some slightly modern features for the console re-release on Switch
However I think more people would pick it up due to the combat being more "modern" as well and easier to handle.
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>>740864394
Theres a million options really. Anything would fit but we didnt really get a proper explanation in the game, kek
Can always use magic or some gods as an excuse, or someone trying to poison our hero and he barely comes out alive but now needs time to regain his shit, etc
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>>740864486
Alright but now there needs to be a reason the orks don't just kill and eat him.
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>>740864563
Risen is Gothic light, I can't even remember a single character besides the Inquisitor and he isn't even that interesting.
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>>740857104
>Yes but you only become a proper one start of chapter 3
+ several hours of bullshit to pass the mage trial
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>>740864631
they enslave people so maybe go with that, spends year rowing on orc galleys until he somehow escapes
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Any hints about where Bullit goes at night to get drunk? I have some just desserts to deliver.
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>>740864716
I admit I needed to cheat for the waterfall one but the other one I had found and remembered so its really not that bad.
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>>740864701
I like the fact that PB decided to make the R1 hero look like a random ruskie bydlo
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>>740864840
he looks cool in R2 though
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So anyone doing a mage run? How is it? I want to do one on my next playthorugh but I am not sure which camp I should rather join
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>>740858976
Swords don't work against golems. You need blunt damage like a mace.
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>>740864747
By the bridge from what I hear. I tried following him first time time but the dumb cunt just made a complete circle of the camp, ignoring both exits so I just beat the shit out of him and killed him by the arena.
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>>740864885
They completely changed his look, kek
Shame gameplay in R2 sucks donkey cock
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>>740864701
Yeah but it still does some things quite right.
I love the soundtrack and the wenworth miller looking MC being a smartass, and I believe the combat would be perfect if it weren't for enemies being really really really random with their bullshit. And the last 2 chapters would have to be replaced with something else. It feels almost as if the talent left by the time they were done with the first half of the game.
Which explains the following entries. Well, at least Risen 3 wasn't horrible and Elex had some merit outside of its combat I guess. Rest in piss and shit, PB
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>>740864939
there are only 2 good things in R2, MC's look and that voodoo half naked waifu
I also like the idea for realisitc lockpicking but it needs to be harder so 99% locks can't be opened by raking
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>>740864898
Kinda meh. Learning Firebolt is easy and quick and with a bit of mana you can kill anything weaker than a snapper but mage proper only at chapter 3.
Also the first 3 circles of magic require 35 LP total, nr 4 needs 20, so save up and remember what happens when you bring Saturas all those Foki.
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>>740865043
The idea of R2 was good, but not the execution at all. Ill be honest, its the only PB game that I had trouble finishing because of shitty combat. Used god mode so I can see the entire story.
I dont remember the story to be honest.
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>>740859157
I don't want to install any more stuff. Usually a flag on Heroic solves it. I'll keep digging.
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>>740864831
I spent hours in that skeleton tower basement thinking that's obviously the place I needed to be. It wasn't.
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I don't know how lockpicking works, but my strategy to test different combinations with lvl 1 lockpicking seems to be working so far. lmao
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>>740864939
I remember something about Risen 2 having the worst combat of all by several miles, but having genuine well interconnected and developer questlines, like they expanded too much on that shit (and storytelling).
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>>740862259
He was ignoring me until Chapter 2
But I didn't check each time I leveled up STR or got 1h skill upgrade.
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>>740854816
Should I buy it right now or wait a few weeks for patches?
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>>740865215
In another game I might get annoyed but because getting lost is the point of Gothic I stuck with for a bit.
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>>740865147
with optiscaler you can do more stuff like enabling nvidia reflex on AMD GPUs (dunno how the fuck that works). This game in particular has 2 nvidia reflex settings.
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>>740865324
it's very buggy but well in my game it was nothing that reloading save wouldn't fix
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>>740858286
I actually came around to the idea of remakes in principle because of shit like this. Also The Thing is a remake of a crap movie AFAIK.
So I changed my opinion to: remakes of shit movies/games are ok, while remakes of something that was already good can only turn out worse
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have they fixed the sleep not recovering hp/mp bug yet?
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>>740865081
So do you just kill everything with fierbolt in the first 2 chapters. Or do you learn some melee?
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>>740865043
the MCs sister had huge fucking tits
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I'm annoyed by the number of times I've been looking for hints on where to look for A and B
Like leather strips. There's 2 vendors right there in the old camp but I'm so retarded I had to look this up after hours of running around all three camps.
I think I need to start using that fucking notepad on Steam
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>>740865461
think that was R3, the one that had MC with sister
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>>740865421
I kill most things with firebolt but I also needed the 1h expertise and like 30 str to survive. Gonna do a templer run next time cause I didn;t play with 2h yet, they also get some magic abilitites.
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>>740865508
I have dozens of strips just from random chests and other loot.
git gud
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>>740865406
no patch of any kind yet
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>>740865520
oh yeah I misremembered, I just remember the pirate chick had huge tiddies
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>>740865738
both had but I can't remember which one had tits
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>>740865673
I have like a billion fucking lockpicks from chests and ore but I've seen no fucking strips man
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>>740855992
What are the men at the bottom supposed to prove? They're both clearly still White. The women are as ugly as they were in the original
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>>740865283
I now seem to recall the gnomes in r2/r3 that you can talk to. Jaffar my nigga...
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>>740865406
not a bug, read the glossary. every few hours you're awake you get 1 hour of healing while sleeping.
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i'm not reading through this thread because i don't want to get spoiled but i just came here to say that people that don't appreciate the lockpicking system are fucking retarded
it's the perfect system which makes it not too easy and yet not too hard since personal belongings in this games world are everything to the convicts trapped there. If it were as easy to pick locks as in Skyrim, you would be walking around with everyones hard earned treasure.
That is all. Fuck you tranny modders
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>>740865857
they censored their clothes
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>>740862690
>>740863478
It's literally cheap prison guard gear with some tacked on shit made by barely skilled craftsmen.
Would be strange if random criminals wore shiny Mythical Mithril Armor Of Fuck You
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>>740865912
see I only played R3 after R1. I found the whole place with gnomes a bit annoying IIRC.
Man R3 was so fucking overlooked, if a bit mediocre
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>>740866001
The problem is that there's locks you cannot fucking open if you master lockpicking because of a fucking bug
And some locks are just virtually fucking bullshit to open in the limited amount of time you have to breathe underwater
A lot of people who appreciate this system are dealing with easy locks
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>>740866064
R3 is a solid 6-7. Nothing groundbreaking, not too buggy, combat in all options is viable, story is not too bad and also gives you options.
I replay it every once in a while, it's comfy id say
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>>740864926
I found him patrolling between the arena and the castle entrance, guess he bugged out?
Anyway, I attacked and killed him in a moment where it was just the two of us. Now his body is rotting in the streets and nobody gives a fuck. I wonder if he will eventually despawn or if NPCs rot like animals do.
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>>740866167
risen 3 is a /pol/ feverdream.
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UGGHHHH
I don't wanna..
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>>740866328
Isn't that R2? I remember that was the game where you call the natives niggers, and they're treated like monsters when you run into them in the jungle
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>>740866231
Despawn and bug sounds about right.
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>>740866231
I don't know if that won't softlock one quest where you must beat him and probably talk to him afterwards
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>>740854816
Ohh look at those "tropical vibes" with that grey filter and the vomit water.
The beach look like birds go there to die after being exposed to a few million gallons of oil have leaked.
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Has there been a performance patch yet?
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>>740866328
I think you got the wrong game buddy
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>>740866424
R3 had some of that too
I appreciate Patty's massive milk canisters on your face at all times (if only it wasn't incest)
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>>740866424
"Monsters" as in they're just generic enemies you kill in random encounters, or monsters as in the narrative acts like they're inhuman monsters?
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>>740866001
>it's the perfect system
You'll find out for yourself soon enough.
Since you 'don't want to get spoiled' I assume you're not even half way through.
Sooner or later you'll find out lockpicking is bugged like many things in this game.
Read the description of upgraded lockpicking skills.
First upgrade detaches one linked plate, 2nd upgrade detaches another one.
Except it wasn't tested enough and there are puzzles you can't solve because the detached link was actually required for the solution.
Anons already posted examples and proof that locks don't have solutions in previous threads.
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>>740866496
that's what makes it so hot
fuck I might replay the series one day, I only played R2 and 3 once
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>find some amulet in my travels
>put it on because might as well, got nothing else to wear
>thorus suddenly believes i'm on some errand for somebody and just lets me in
neat
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>>740865857
They look like weak flabby infants, not hardened criminals. You think the barrier is a holiday resort? Pathetic developer self-inserts most likely, by the looks of them.
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>>740866608
huh? they added obtainable courier amulated whatever?
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>>740866567
there's a quest where some fat governeur gives you gold if you bring him the heads of some escaped "workers" (R2 can't bring itself to call them slaves). You can decline, but if you run into these workers they will attack on sight. So basically the same as normal enemies.
Also everyone of them that doesn't speak the white mans tounge uses some weird niggerbabble
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>>740866570
true true. for example that one apartment in old camp with lootable morningstar in it has such door, can't unlock it without any lockpicking skills
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>>740866608
Was the body of the original owner still warm when you 'found' it?
Is it the mage courier badge?
People were talking about it but I didn't know you can get your hands on it for real.
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>>740866435
The one with the cook? She was perfectly happy when I told her he's dead.
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>>740866435
What quest? Only one I know about him is that cooking bitch that wants him dead. On that note I feels incredibly weird for a character to care about what I went through and express it in a Gothic game.
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>>740866798
Dayum.
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>>740866001
Does this look fun doing to open a single chest with some trash inside? This is the optimized solution in reality it'd take hundreds of moves.
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>>740866860
yeah
>>740866865
nevermind then
maybe I should have killed him as well
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>>740866608
Isn't fucking Mordrag the courier?
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>>740854816
Is the ONLY ME ALOOONEE, DIEEEEEEEEEE line still in?
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>>740866976
No.
Sadly they went for a more serious and grounded tone, so all the wacky VA stuff is gone.
Even in German. No more crazy Nyras or Ball Lukor. They even cut Stone calling you an ass.
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>>740866146
>>740866570
>>740866883
okay, i stand corrected. I'm dealing with beginner locks and have encountered tougher ones which require the upgrade but did not know things were bad to that extent. Hope they patch it soon.
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Can I just massacre the old camp castle after ch3? I have to get the 2 sex slaves out but everyone there is aggro.
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>>740867098
Its a shame but I like the new lore inspired curse words
>Bei Beliars rauschende Wut
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>>740866774
>>740866848
>>740866959
It is this. I think I picked it off a body in the mine after I arranged for some minecrawlers to meet the pointy end of a templar.
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Sure we break some balls tonight but we go a way back. In a light of recent slop relases it's an honour to be joined by men and not FAGGOT ASS CORNHOLING COCKSUCKERS LIKE BETHESDA FANBASE THEY SHOULD FUCKIN DIE!
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Is there a way to re-challenge Kirgo in the arena? He just tells me to go away now and I need to get on scatty's good side.
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>>740866865
>cooking bitch that wants him dead.
Beating him up is enough.
I was surprised because I met him in the camp long before I was allowed to join Shadows and talk to Syra.
He was talking shit again but there was a dialog option for a fight and I managed to beat his sorry ass somehow.
Despite this happening like two week before (in game time) I got Syra's quest.
I could report quest being finished immediately and it worked normally.
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>>740866424
>help the native girl find some BWC
>catch some escaped slaves
>every woman in the game is some kind of housewife, nagging wife, or slut -- other than your sister with her ridiculously large tits.
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>>740867470
I was so angry when I saw her then immediately was informed she was your sister and knowing we'll never get to suck on dem fat milkers.
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>>740867105
>Hope they patch it soon.
Same here.
It's awful when you can't rob everyone equally.
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>>740867446
I am aware beating him up is enough but for one, I didn't want to hear the MC telling him to leave the womyn alone and for the other, the piece of shit would've fucking killed me on arrival if not for Diego. That nigger is dead.
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>>740867446
Honestly, I just thought leaving a slimy sack of shit like Bullit alive would come to bite me later. Supposedly he's friends with the ore barons. There's no way he wouldn't fuck me over later and go after the cook again. Some faggots just need to be wasted.
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>>740865382
Oh, I didn't know that. (didn't know what Reflex was either kek). Thanks
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>>740867560
i'm hoping they don't completely nerf the difficulty of the locks.. it's a good system, just needs some refinement, please don't make it brain dead easy like virtually every other RPG out there.
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>>740861612
>i just did thing that has nothing to do with fog
based fucking tech illiterate retard sharing his opinions again
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>>740859354
>he didn't look up things on spieletipps in the early 2000s
ngmi
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>changing lore to be more in line with Gothic 2
>Sleeper is now his own thing, and not a Beliar demon/servant
huh?
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>>740867350
20 years in the colony... i compromised
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>>740865406
It's not a bug. You get 12.5% of HP/mana restoration per 3 hours of activity when you sleep.
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>>740868298
now what, dragons will be sleeper's servants?
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Can you upgrade the minecrawler plate armor? I did quest for it and it is like... 2 defense higher than my upgraded merc armor.
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>>740868389
Maybe they'll just say that his cry just awoken magical beasts in general and not that they listened to him.

Ur-Shak says that when Sleeper awakens he'll be as powerful as Beliar.
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>>740868298
Where in G1 does it specifically connect the Sleeper with Beliar? I know there is a small shrine to Beliar outside the Swamp camp but don't remember anything else.
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>can block animal attacks even at the start
>it's not actually useless and blocks quite a bit compared to a normal hit
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Did they add shields or helmets?
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>>740868298
Sleeper presented himself as a new god instead of Beliar's demon to trick people into following him.
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>>740868614
The gods were not established lorewise in g1. The connection is that the Sleeper is directly referred to as a demon. And demons are Beliar's domain, it's pretty much conjecture
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>>740869005
Those are for pussies
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>>740868614
Beliar's mask is literally Sleeper's face and i think Xardas confirms that.
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>>740854863
You minmax the rapier and master rapier instead or whatever they are called in the english version
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>>740866883
>>740867105
Most locks are much easier than that. Makes sense that certain locks would be much harder to pick
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>>740869053
>the sect prayed to a "god" using the symbol of the evil god known for wanting all humans dead
damn, they're even more retarded than I thought
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>>740868387
>It's not a bug.
bullshit. I was killing mosquitos in swamp for a couple of hours, running around, doing quests. Basically have been awake for like 2 days now and sleeping still wouldn't heal me
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I've never played G2 with dex how is it? i'll be playing with nostalgic edition anyways but maybe it'll be same
I'm thinking if i should play now remake as spellsword or dex newcamper and keep the build into G2 (though I probably won't be spellsword even as pally)
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>>740868387
It is bugged beyond that mechanic.
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>>740869221
That's why they probably will retcon this because it's honestly retarded since everyone knows how Beliar symbols and shrines look like and Swamp tards not making the connection doesn't make sense.

Sleeper will be his own thing for sure.
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pantheon in gothic is shit
>generic good god
>generic evil god
>generic 'ACTUALLY WE NEED LE BALANCE, WOULDNT WANT TO HAVE TOO MUCH GOOD EH?! *tips fedorah* god
I wanna kick Adanos in the balls for this retarded take
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>>740869221
That's what smoking weed every day does to motherfuckers.
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>>740869353
see arcania has turned him into a schizo woman
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>>740869296
>won't be spellsword even as pally
pally magic is almost worthless, healing is ok but no offensive spells beyond kill undead is boring
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>>740869296
in G2 dex is considered top tier for mages, well outside of perhaps the 2h only staffs.
pickpocketing is also broken exp.
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>>740869353
>pantheon in gothic is shit
It kinda is. Though the game makes it clear that Adanos is pretty much the "common folk" god while Innos is worshipped mostly by Mages of Fire and Paladins/military etc.
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>>740869353
The pantheon is kinda retarded because it changes very game.
Like in G3 Innos is order, Beliar is chaos and Adanos is the one keeping the balance because absolute order and complete chaos are both bad. But siding with Innos or Beliar still leads to the same ending where everything turns out fine somehow.
Yet in G2 it's INNOS GOOD, BELIAR BAD with Adanos being a weird middle dude that likes to drown civilizations in magic floods
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>>740869503
yeah that's why it won't be, but it's closest thing to spellsword and I refuse to play mage, I hate robes
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>>740854816
>Be old as fuck.
>Streaming Gothic to my community.
>Getting the youth interested in these older games.
>Been recommending Thief and Dark Messiah to them all.
>They love the older games and keep asking what happened to modern games.

You love to see it.
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Yes the gods in Gothic are nothing to write home about but honestly i don't get it why is it such a problem. In 99% of RPGs it's shit. Really only TES has a well written religion.
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>>740869705
never happened unc
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>visit one of the guys harvesting swampweed
>the one who sent me to kill bloodflies because he thought I was scamming him when I came first time during a quest for Cor Kalon
>new dialog option:
>''I came for the next harvest. And don't tell me I have to kill a bunch of swampsharks this time, I am in a hurry/''
>guy hand over 50 weeds
I love that Nameless Hero would cheat and lie without skipping a beat, especially when some asshole is involved
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Is this accurate?
Windows = Old camp
macOS = Swamp camp
Linux = New camp
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Is this accurate?
Tits = Old camp
Ass = New camp
Feet = Swamp camp
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>>740869705
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Lee is a political prisoner kept in gulag after fucking king's daughter
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>>740869296
Dex is the god stat in NOTR since it affects a bunch of shit like pickpocketing success, lockpick break chance, gives you a better jump at 90 dex, bows use it and they are OP if you sit on a tree branch and rain enemies with arrows, also you can use one of the top 5 one-handed swords with just 60 dex.
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>>740869861
I am now validated about going Old Camp.
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>>740854816
how's Gay representation in the game?
It's prison so at least 30% of inmates should have a regular buttsex
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Is learning acrobatics actually worth it? Do you get the same funny long jump you got in the original?
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>>740870110
sorry this isn't kentucky cried dicking
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>>740870110
the only things I found was some guy implying he's gay or at least doesn't care for women and two dead guys in a forest that look like they had a suicide pact or something
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>>740865857
>What are the men at the bottom supposed to prove? They're both clearly still White.
anon, what makes you think it's about race? i think you might be a tiny bit obsessed
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>>740870129
No funny jumps but it reduces fall damage and allows you to Dark Souls roll which is useful.
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>>740870129
>funny long jump
no but yes it's worth to learn. you get dodge rolling dark souls style and 50% less fall damage
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>>740870110
thankfully there's not much faggotry in the game.
There's one guy who said "i've never really been interested in them (women)" when you talk to him about why you're in the colony.

There's a couple of corpses posed in an interesting position overlooking a cliff by the ocean, but not much backstory there that i've seen.

so again, it's a nice change of pace from the norm of recent games.
>50/50 female representation for all roles (such as guards, soldiers, etc)
>every other person talks about their faggot/dyke relationship

Thank you based spaniards for making a good game.
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>>740870261
That's generally what happens in woke remakes retard. I also remember you had people saying it's woke due to race swaps even though it was just the darkies looking darker due to UE
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Nameless Hero more like Nameless Homo
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>>740869353
It's not that simple
>generic good god
Innos values control and hierarchy. Fire mages are jews who want money to bless someone. The king and the paladins conquered and subjugated other countries like Varant in the name of Innos.
>generic evil god
Beliar represents chaos and freedom. Yes, he's le evil, hates Innos and will abandon his followers like Zuben when they stop being useful. But he's open about it and gives you money and power if you follow him.
>generic 'ACTUALLY WE NEED LE BALANCE
Adanos's go to solution is to cause a flood and kill everyone. One druid (follower of Adanos) killed farmers because they were forced to work for the orcs. And the idea of balance is that neither total control of Innos nor total chaos of Beliar works and their fighting only hurts the world.
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>>740870476
>game takes place in prison
>upset there's minorities
I'll give them a pass in this case.
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>>740870476
>no bro i swear i didnt niggerify it more its the engine i swear
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>>740869353
Eh, I wouldn't say Innos is just about being good. There is still a lot of vice and pride among his followers. He is a god of order and so his worshippers can be quite fanatical. Innos may inspire blind faith and persecution, which could be against the balance
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>>740870651
G3 is not cannon and never will be
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>>740863950
I dunno, I feel like the reasoning of Innos the human god becoming too weak to support the Humans and Xardas completely obliterating rune magic which left the Humans with almost zero magic and having to figure shit out from scratch was a pretty good lore reason.
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>>740870476
They took some meds/browns and turned them into kongo niggers, even my dude Saturas.
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>>740870768
I don't really see how a darkie being mud coloured over shit coloured makes a difference and justifies it being called woke.
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>>740870909
I completely forgot he did that. Fuck him, rune magic is amazing fun.
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>>740870913
there's also a jeet in the old camp. i'm stalking him, studying his patterns and schedule. as soon as i get an opportunity he's going to meet krishna.
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>>740871024
whomst?
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>>740870913
Saturas was always black
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>return to old camp from weed camp in chapter 2 after finding 1st focus stone
>suddenly there's a concert with some flame spitters for extra OMPH
Wait what?
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I need some help over here fellas
I've been fucking around with pickpocketing
I don't know if it's a bug or a punishment, but every single NPC in the old camp is telling me to keep my hands to myself and it's getting increasingly annoying
Does it go away? I unfortunately don't have older saves before I started pickpocketing and honestly it kind of sucks. I wanted to get that recipe from cor kalom but I think I'm not going to get it from him by doing this
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>>740870979
>makes a difference
even actual blacks don't want their dudes to look like they escaped the deepest jungles of apefrica

>>740871102
I know, they made him even blacker and his voice isn't nearly as good.
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>>740871060
Kirgo, he's by the arena.
it sucks working from home and being this close to vidya, but not being able to play :(
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>>740871116
HERR MANNELIG
HERR MANNELIG

>>740871192
You wouldn't anyway since the recipe is in a chest.
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>>740869705
>Been recommending Thief and Dark Messiah to them all.
>Thief remake releasing in a few months
>Have the spiritual successor of Dark MEssiah, Fatekeeper, out in EA now.
Feels so fucking good man. That on top of this Gothic release, I've been eating SO good.
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>>740871192
there are many types of niggas
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No wonder so many people hate the lockpicking. It's basically an IQ test
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>>740871191
>think I'm not going to get it from him by doing this
its in a chest
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These graphics make my eyes bleed after an hour. Also I can't tell what the fuck I can even pick up.

>walkig in the old camp on a wide ass road
>leave for a piss
>come back to a black digga standing in front of you saying get out of the way
>by the time I sit down he was in attack stance ready to throw fists
NEVER relax
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>>740871337
I feel very fucking stupid. I remember reading "he keeps it close to his chest" as in he was holding it.
I feel very fucking stupid.
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>>740855957
So how do I do minigame? I want to learn.
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>>740871191
Sorry pal but nobody likes thieves, not even thieves
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>>740871412
No biggie anon, Gothic has a habit of making us feel stupid from time to time.
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Thank you, Gothic. I've been in these threads the whole time so I've missed all those Stellar Blade seethe and bait threads, as well as the OoT times
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I need to save the slave wenches but I'm not old camp in ch4 so they are all angry. Can I just murder them without consequences?
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>>740856072
>repetitive
ADDAADADDA is repetitive. The new lockpicking is literally a logic puzzle that's different every time.
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>>740871326
Yeah, and the test was seeing if you were smart enough to mod it out
Sorry, brainlet.
LOL!
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>>740871465
Just pay attention to which plates are bound to each other, try to keep everything away from the edges, and consider using pen and paper, or notepad, to track the bonds and which pinhole they need to be in. Also, training lockpicking for at least 1 level is very helpful, and higher levels make it easier by reducing the number of plates that move each other
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>>740871580
>The new lockpicking is literally a logic puzzle that's different every time.
How does it improve the game?
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>>740871759
By not being repetitive while also not handing the play all the loot on a silver platter.
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Why is lockpicking so hard to make engaging in any game whatsoever? I haven't seen one game with lockpicking that you would actually want to do.
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>>740871326
The IQ test is if you're smart enough to go train lockpicking. Cause without it, certain locks are literally impossible and that is more than likely the point.
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>>740871723
>and consider using pen and paper
this is fine in a puzzle game like La Mulania
this is not fine in an RPG where I am trying to steal from 23 houses
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>>740871326
Based. I love doing logic problems in RPG minigames.
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>>740871878
I liked KCD's well enough. It was quick and it filtered people with Parkinson's
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>>740869353
>>740869576
Beliar is not evil. Beliar is accepting of all, unlike Innos, who is a supremacist, and Adanos, who barely tolerates. The human started this conflict by killing the animal with Innos might, which then entered Beliars realm. Beliar is only evil in the eyes of Innos worshippers.
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>>740871958
I don't like it on controller
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I was really angry about the lockpicking but after getting 1 lvl trained in it, I can just guess/brute force most the locks. There are now just a handful that I use a solver for because I'm too lazy to remember all the different ways the sliders move.
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>>740871975
so Beliar is an LGBT deity? Explains a lot
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They tried to make Beliar less evil in Gothic 3 by having the arabs worship him in the desert, but it's kinda hard to do when Gothic 2 had a literal 40k Chaos God temple as a final area dedicated to him lmao.
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anything past G2 (including NOTR) is a fever dream and non canon
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>>740872061
Beliar is not an LGBT deity, because that would infer favouritism of one group. Beliar is accepting of all, and his realm is connected to the world of the living in its entirety.
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>>740872061
Beliar is the god who supports slavery and sex slaves.
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>>740871578
>Can I just murder them without consequences?
yes
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>>740869353
The gods are just a reflection of peoples desires
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These threads are the first time i learn that there are people who hate NotR. It's weird. I love the new abilities, new area, archeological exploration of a lost civilization with Water Mages, the pirates slap hard and have the most kino armor in the game, revisiting some characters form Gothic 1 in Bandit Camp was nice, doing quests for them was pretty good with some being really creative etc.

Outside of pacing (you basically go on a side adventure before rushing to the Colony), what are the issue of the expansion?
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>>740872316
so there is a god made of pot roast out there somewhere
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>>740870110
>>740870260
Yeah, the climbing teacher asks what they threw you in for, and if you say "Slept with the wrong woman" he responds that he was never interested.
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>>740872305
well so does Rhobar considering he sends bitches to Gomez
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>>740872305
Beliar accepts them and their masters for what they are, as cruel and hideous as Innos made them. The same Innos that would make the king, one who calls himself chosen by Innos, trade womens lifes and dignities for Ore.
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>>740872346
Insane difficulty
Jharkendar being a themepark instead of a coherent world
Beliars Claw rendering all guild weapons pointless
Extra terrible balancing for mages
Pirates being a weird and wacky addition
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>>740872346
>what are the issue of the expansion?
Box had Hero in Water Robes in the back which wasnt available in the game without cheats.
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>>740872346
shit balance, kills the pacing and it's generally gay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci-S-iZXCbA
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Cuckchad here. Should I play this?
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>>740872432
>trade womens lifes and dignities for Ore.
Go back to plebbit you utterly retarded niggerfaggot
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>>740872486
I only played G2 NotR to the point of joining a faction a few years back.
Would you recommend starting again with only G2? I never tried it without the expansion.
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>>740871884
>>740871635
Maybe if you make the mod yourself, or make a solving program. Just downloading someone else's mod is pretty easy lmao git gud mud
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>>740872346
Gothic 2 was too easy so they made NotR insanely, absurdly hard. If you do not know what you're doing, good fucking luck beating that game.
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>>740872432
>chosen by Innos, trade womens lifes and dignities for Ore.
As oppossed to the diginfied lives of the assassin slave harems? Or how assassins are perfectly fine with outright enslaving people in general?
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>>740872620
This was a response to
>Beliar is the god who supports slavery and sex slaves.
in a theological discussion. Feel free to not participate, or better yet, delete yourself entirely.
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Why did they make Gomez hardest boss in the game? Because he is optional? Gomez could have soloed the orcs, sleeper temple and Sleeper itself.
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>>740872682
nah vanilla gothic 2 is really boring
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no one will tell me god who has this shit as his champion is anything but evil
>b-but accepting
the same way a drug dealer will sell his shit to anyone, anywhere
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>>740872732
With the amount of mods there are for older gothic games, didn't anyone come up with a rebalanced G2 mod that would solve this?
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>>740871343
>These graphics make my eyes bleed after an hour.
I really don't know what they were thinking
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>>740872776
I think they wanted it to make sense and be immersie. Dude rose to power commanding a band of cutthroats, bandits and rapists for 10 years straight without a mutiny or anyone rebelling against him.

Also with his resources it's obvious he would lead expeditions to secure the best loot in the area. It was also present in og G1 - the 90% of best gear was held by the rich barons/leaders because they had the means to get their hands on it and have been there for years before you.
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>>740857313
Akhchually, linear algebra alone is not enough. This feels more like a Petri net problem.
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>>740872759
>Or how assassins are perfectly fine with outright enslaving people in general?
Like with a prison colony sealed by a magic barrier that will indiscriminately kill anyone attempting to leave, you mean?
>As oppossed to the diginfied lives of the assassin slave harems?
Yes, that argument was made - It seems hypocritcal to target Beliar with that, considering Chosen of Innos are doing the same thing. Seems its just a human thing after all. Yet Beliar accepts and Innos does it, ironically, in the shadows while pointing fingers and denying the faults of his own creation.
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>>740872682
For a first run, sure
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Beliar doesn't accept tranny he uses and discards.
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Aber das Licht war eine Qual für Beliar, und alles was Innos erschuf wurde von Beliar zerstört.
Adanos aber sah, das so nichts sein konnte, kein Licht und keine Dunkelheit.
Und so stellte er sich zwischen seine Brüder, um ihren Streit zu schlichten. Und es gelang ihm nicht.
Aber dort, wo Adanos stand, ward ein Ort, an dem Innos und Beliar keine Macht hatten. Und an diesem Ort waren Chaos und Ordnung zugleich. Und so ward das Meer erschaffen.
Und das Meer gab das Land frei und es enstanden alle Wesen, Bäume wie Tiere, Wölfe wie Schafe. Und zuletzt entstand der Mensch.
Und Adanos gefiel was entstandend war, und er erfreute sich an allen Wesen gleichermaßen.
Aber so groß war der Zorn Beliars daß er über das Land kam und das Tier erwählte. Und Beliar sprach zu ihm. Und das Tier ward ihm untertan.
Und Beliar verlieh ihm einen Teil seiner göttlichen Macht, auf daß es das Land zerstöre.
Aber Innos sah was geschehen war. Und auch er betrat das Land und erwählte den Menschen. Und Innos sprach zu ihm und der Mensch ward ihm untertan.
Und Innos verlieh ihm einen Teil seiner göttliche Macht auf daß er dem Wirken Beliars Einhalt gebiete. Und Beliar sprach zu einem weitern Wesen. Aber Adanos ließ die Flut kommen und das Wesen wurde fortgespült von der Erde. Aber mit ihm fortgespült wurden Bäume und Tiere und Adanaos überkam eine tiefe Trauer.
Und so sprach Adanos zu seinen Brüdern: "Nie mehr sollt ihr mein Land betreten, denn es ist heilig." Und so soll es sein.
Aber der Mensch und das Tier führten Krieg auf dem Land Adanos, und der Zorn der Götter war mit ihnen. Und der Mensch erschlug das Tier, und es ging ein in Beliars Reich.
Adanos aber sah das nun Ordnung und Chaos ungleich waren und er bat Innos, dem Menschen seine göttliche Macht zu nehmen.
Und Innos, in seiner Weisheit, tat es.
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>>740865147
PROTON_FSR4_UPGRADE=1?
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>get 'Black Goblins stole my magic book' quest from Milten
>he describes the cave and I realize it's the place where I genocided all the goblins, got a shitload of morning stars that sold really well as a reward
>reach the cave, immediately attacked by 2 gobbs
>OH BOY HERE WE GO AGAIN!
>rest of the cave is completely empty, not a single goblin in sight
I was robbed of my morning stars!
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>>740873095
>and then Adanos crashed out and drowned everyone and everything
That's how it goes with this pantheon
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>>740873095
Read it in his voice and by Adanos no other may substitute him.
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>>740873138
Yeah, literally just had the same scenario a few hours ago lol.
Also, to save you some time if you already cleared the Old Mine: the only crawlers that respawned are the ones next to the two templars that are in the middle of the main shaft, next to the wooden pass. Every other tunnel will still be empty.
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Let's be honest, the Gothic setting sucks dick and the Polacks who did the Archolos mod have done a 1000 times better job than Pyranhas.

They just needed a simple as fuck backdrop for the prison colony setting (which is really fucking cool, don't get me wrong) and they dropped some random names to make it sound more complex but the moment the story expanded with Gothic 2 and then 3 it all fell apart. Single continent, single king, at most one desert and generic viking area, 3 lame gods and that's about it.
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>>740873157
So what? Was he supposed to let Quarhodron just fuck up the rest of the world with Beliars toothpick?
Adanos was right to ctr+alt+del
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>>740873289
>if you already cleared the Old Mine
I did.
Thanks for the info.
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>>740873336
t.Archolos shill
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Elohim caused great flood and everyone calls him a merciful god yet Adanos pranked only one continent and it;'s held against him
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>>740871975
>The human started this conflict by killing the animal with Innos might
Source? Vatras sermon states that the war started after Innos created light, which made Beliar sperg out at him. Adanos stepped between them to stop them, and where he stood, the world was created.
Then Beliar chose the animal to destroy the world, and Innos in turn chose the humans to stop the animal.
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what's with trannies always clinging to everything that is demonic and perverted?
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>>740871975
>Beliar is accepting of all, unlike Innos, who is a supremacist
Sounds like something an Orc would say. You aren't an Orc, are you?
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>>740873489
don't post that shit, the armour just looks too trashy
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I liked Gothic 3
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>>740873664
sorry to hear that
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>>740872136
>They tried to make Beliar less evil in Gothic 3 by having the arabs worship him in the desert
Nah thats pretty on brand considering how, the first Orcs were Humans who were thrown out of society cause they were irremdeemable monsters that would fuck animals and murder woman and children. Beliar used their weakness to grow his own power in order to tip the scales against Innos. So he gave these vile humans power, which changed them into Orcs. So an Arab worshiping a god who gives you the thumbs up for fucking goats is pretty on brand.
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>>740873509
Actually, Adanos caused two great floods. Once in Jarkendar and one in Varant.
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thorus just shot a massive load in me
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>>740873404
He should intervene like a normal god and send down his own trinkets for the mortals to have epic duels with
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>>740873803
wot animals did they fuck
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>>740873805
Adanos really is the retarded middle child who fucks everything up and makes every situation worse, huh?
Xardas was fucking right all along.
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>>740872574
Boss of Old Camp has a cheeky cuck-wall inside his bed chambers (he likes to watch)
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>>740854816

that's the beach from crysis
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>>740855232
old camp, home
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>>740873095
A Beliar nie znosił widoku światła, i niszczył wszystko, co Innos stworzył.
Ujrzał tedy Adanos, że nic nie może istnieć na świecie, ani światło, ani mrok.
Stanął tedy pomiędzy swoimi braćmi i próbował pojednać ich ze sobą.
Ale na próżno.
Lecz tam, gdzie stanął Adanos, ani Innos, ani Beliar nie mieli żadnej władzy. Na tym miejscu ład i chaos współistniały w harmonii.
Tak oto powstało morze. A z morza wyłonił się ląd, a na lądzie powstało wszystko, co żywe. Drzewa i zwierzęta, wilki i owce. A na samym końcu powstał człowiek.
Adanos cieszył się ze wszystkiego, co wtedy powstało, a swą miłością darzył jednakowo wszystkie rzeczy.
Ale gniew Beliara był tak wielki, że przemierzył on całą Ziemię, by znaleźć bestię. A gdy do niej przemówił, stała sie ona jego sługą.
Beliar tchnął w nią część swojej boskiej mocy, by mogła zniszczyć całą Ziemię.
Ale Innos podpatrzył czyn Beliara i przemierzył Ziemię, by znaleźć Człowieka. A gdy do niego przemówił, trn stał się jego sługą.
Innos tchnął w niego część swojej boskiej mocy, by mógł naprawić szkody wyrządzone przez Beliara.
Wtedy zwrócił się Beliar do innej istoty, ale Adanos zesłał potężną falę, która zmyła ją z powierzchni Ziemi. Ale wraz z nią odeszły również drzewa i zwierzęta, i Adanos wielce się zasmucił.
Rzekł tedy Adanos do swoich braci: "Nigdy więcej wasza noga nie stanie na mojej ziemi, bo jest ona święta, i pozostanie taka na wieki."
Ale Człowiek i Bestia nie zaprzestali wojny na ziemi Adanosa i płonął w nich gniew ich bogów. A Człowiek pokonał Bestię, która wróciła do królestwa Beliara.
I zobaczył Adanos, że prysła równowaga między ładem i chaosem i zaklął Innosa, aby ten odebrał Człowiekowi jego boską moc. A Innos w swej mądrości tak uczynił.
Ale Adanos obawiał się, że pewnego dnia Bestia powróci na Ziemię. Dlatego uprosił Innosa, by ten zostawił cząstkę swojej boskiej mocy na Ziemi, aby pewnego dnia przywrócić ją Człowiekowi. A Innos w swej mądrości tak uczynił.
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>>740873805
He also summoned a massive wave to wash away Beliar's beast. Also killing many other living things in the process, which made him really sad.
Waterboy really needs to work on his impulses and anger management
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>>740874031
2 fucking floods in several thousand years and in both cases because Beliar was about to fuck everything up. Xardas was being an old faggot.
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Wait, the whole reason I joined swamp camp was for their "mage" robes like Y'Berion and Cor Kalom, and now after 30 minutes of google-fu I'm finding out, not only do those robes not exist as equipment, swamp cam doesn't even have a mage faction? What the shitfuck?
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>>740874393
This, this is true home to me...
Gothic 3...
First thing I always do, run along the cliffs till I find the huge waterfall, jump down, swim to the swamp weed village in the desert.
THIS..
is home...
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>>740874468
DUDE WEED LMAO
LMAO!
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>>740874468
they have gurus and can teach you magic up the 4th circle
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>>740874458
>Xardas was being an old faggot.
Saturas, calm down.
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>>740874540
For real, I tollerated that whole shit just for the robes, which apparently don't exist.
>>740874559
It's not the magic I'm concerned about.
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>>740874521
your home looks like shit bruv
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>>740874031
Adanos is the youngest brother. First, there was only Innos, who divided himself and created Beliar. Then Innos divided himself again and created Adanos. Beliar became jealous of Innos and started to fight him, which made Innos despair and cry for 13 years. Humans who drank the Tears of Innos grew powerful and became the first fire mages.
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>>740874468
You ALWAYS join Old Camp. Thats the rules.
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>>740874468
The hero becoming a guru makes no sense because he isn't a true believer. He becomes a templar because he is a damn good fighter
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>>740874629
take that back..
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>>740874692
Nah bro I don't want to be a guru, I want to get the guru's armor.
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FOR GOOO MEZ
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How long does it take for the swamp harvesters to regather and give you more harvests? I was actually blown away when I revisited after don't know how many days and I could just ask them again for bundles of swampweed.
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>>740874785
maybe using control spell would let them somehow unequip it like you could in OG
but that will require tons of mana
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Gothic 3 had a really shitly made world
>biggest world in the series
>yet everything was clustered together, rebel camp near main fucking road
it was swathes of nothingness with anything involving the MMO tier quests being right next to each other like in a theme park
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>>740872346
it's the plebs getting filtered who seethe that you can't just steamroll through the game and have 6 billion points in str and dex
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>>740874902
The game completing the quests for you even before you pick them up is a fucking hilarious concept for a Gothic game and speaks volumes of the quality of these quests
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>>740874902
I will stand on this hill and defend Gothic 3 till my end.
It is the best gothic ever made and an absolute masterpiece.
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I never minimaxed in NOTR
>noo you have to save the tablets for 5th act
nigga it's not an MMO raid chill
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>>740875167
you are wrong and silly
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>>740871116
it's neat that the remake devs kept it in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ebgjk0vtzY
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>>740875167
you're a tranny and should be deported
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im off on an adventure :D
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>>740873097
Yes, that's the one, but it does nothing to the settings, it still shows 3.1 or something and remains kind of awful when I activate it.
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>>740875209
>>740875273
Still got screenshots from my last run. You can eat my enormous wiener. This game is top tier.
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If u ever play it, I can't remember the city name but it's a castle very centered.. there is this one room on the walls no NPC can enter. You can just stand inside and slaughter the entire city.
It's the one with the paladin in it that bitches about losing his magic.
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Shit is free.. but takes like 2 IRL hours to clear..
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>>740874031
>Adanos really is the retarded middle child who fucks everything up and makes every situation worse, huh?
No. He actually hates using floods because it kills everything, and he loves everything, floods are his ultima ratio.
But the alternative was for Beliars chosen beast to destroy the world, and later letting Rhademes go apeshit beyond Jharkendar with the claw of Beliar - remember, by the time Adanos flooded Jharkendar most of the people there had already been killed in the civil war.
And considering there hasn't been a flood in recent memory its clearly his most desperate move and he hasn't seen the need to use it in hundreds, if not thousands of years.
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>>740874692
Hero is canonically a Necromancer and thats why Xardas basically takes him on as a student and later they become best friends. Cause the Hero is the only one Xardas sees as an equal in intellect and inate mana ability.
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Also, stones beat wolves
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>>740867098
it's over
>>740871116
we're so back
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>>740874521
Kino. That and Silden (nearby hunter cabin, waterfalls and buffalo meadow included) are the best towns.
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>>740875167
Gothic 3 is actually real good, people just hate because publishers turned it into Oblivion-lite in order to compete with Elder Scrolls. They changed the MC to be more self-inserty and straight up copied the Oblivion UI and inventory system.
Publishers will always be the downfall of a game series. Luckily the devs have a good publisher who doesn't give a FUCK what their dev teams do, so they have a chance of making the true Gothic 3 they always dreamed of. Here's hoping.
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>>740875896
Don't forget this absolute castle Skyrim stole..
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>>740865395
Exactly, it's fucking retarded they're enshittening already good games instead of remaking garbage like Invisible War or Deadly Shadows because at least there's a chance they could be actually good games this time.
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>>740874902
>muh themeparks!
shut the fuck up goober
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G3 is complete garbage and 2nd biggest gaming disappointment of my life's after oblivion.
Even 11 yo me knew that this garbage isn't gothic I love.
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Risen is the proper Gothic 3
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>>740875993
I mean.. no joke.. to me gothic 3 is perfect as is. Only negative is some open world areas are somewhat empty but like.. whatever.
My entire endgame is always unleashing my demon into random cities and watch it murder everything in the name of Xardas.
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>>740876006
how do you steal a castle
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this thread is proof gothicfags is the same cattle that plays MMOs that's why they saw nothing odd about G3
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>>740876202
Skyrim has that castle city next to a river on a cliff.. got a stone arch too I believe. That shit is an exact copy of this look.
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>>740876202
very slowly, brick by brick
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>>740866146
>And some locks are just virtually fucking bullshit to open in the limited amount of time you have to breathe underwater
At least you can upgrade diving so you can stay under water for 15 minutes.
For chest in Y'Berion's room all you have is the duration of sleep spell you need to cast on Baal Lukor who's permanently watching your every step and starts to murderize you the moment you enter the room.
There's Ring of Enlightenment inside with +20 max mana +30 max HP and bunch of weed
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>>740876676
Can't you just wait until chapter 3 when Lukor fucks off?
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>>740876676
good idea, I got to head back to that one
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I can't find Lester in the mine after I got the three guards and talked to Ian, where is he?
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>>740876851
Outside the mine at the entrance by the road, he told you he would be
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>>740872370
so barely anything
fucking cowards
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>>740876851
stop right click spamming dialog
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>>740876978
Kys faggot
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>>740876753
Didn't play original, don't know about NPCs' schedules.
Also trying to open every single chest I can.
Even 2 healing potions and 5 arrows are better than nothing.
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>>740876978
>he's back
LOL
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I swam all the way to those sunken ships and I didn't find a single cool item, seriously wtf. At least give me a pirate sword something else cool
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>>740865857
Syra is quite cute ackschually. It's her facial animation that's nahd good.
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>>740877529
bro your strength potion?
Bro, your book?
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>>740877584
>c-could you go to the swamp and see if its a good place for me to escape to?
>go to the swamp
>talk to the two ladies about it
>HERO: Hmm... I should tell Syra about what I found.
>go back to her
>NOT NOW
>NOT NOW
>NOT NOW
>GO AWAY
>NOT NOW
Fine fuck you then, enjoy being Gomez's fleshlight.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtNHgD9OtSQ
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>>740875167
I mean I enjoyed it a lot, but I can definelty understand why people hate. I mean had to apply like a bunch of patches first because there is just so much shit that is broken und clearly unfinished. It just really sucks because it has all the amazing ingrediants for an awesome game but barely any of them come together since it's so terrible rushed. Honestly would be nice if they would remake it one day but I highly doubt it
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where can I get me a transform bloodfly scroll so I can fly to the chest across the broken bridge at the mountain fortress and get worthless loot in there that won't even pay for the cost of the scroll?
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>>740877643
Wtf where?
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I joined the Brotherhood and now I'm walking around barefeet wearing a skirt
nice
>>740877529
There's cool loot there, a proper spear and a couple telekinesis spells
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Milten looks kinda like a twink. I wanna fuck him.
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>>740877529
where to even start:
>wolfshredder bow otherwise only available in chapter 3
>armor amulet +15 blunt +15 edge
>+1 STR potion
>awesome early game sword that looks like half sword half spear I forgot the name off
>shitload of mana regen herbs and corrals which make early game absolutely trivial if you get fire bolt rune in old camp
>some druid book needed for a quest I didn't unlock yet
>circle 2 ball lightning rune in cliff cave nearby
some of these are in ships' vicinity or require keys from vicinity but that whole area is a treasutrove
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>>740877802
the hanging dude, take at least 2 telekenisis scrolls
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>>740877764
wizards sell them:
cronos in the new camp, the red wizard guy in old camp and baal whatshisname in the Swamp camp

>>740878113
the dude standing alone on the beach outside the swamp camp said something about "losing a good friend" and "good thing I don't like em" when the Hero says something about woman
and in a all male prison colony, that doesnt sound so...out of place
>"oi mate, you dropped your nuggs in the shower...."
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>>740877690
Tbh all this talk about the Great Awakening is making me think she should probably stay there. I'll know whether all this Sleeper business was actually a good idea as soon as I skip to night now...
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>>740878358
oh boy
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>>740878446
Oh maybe I don't need to skip. Look at all the funny bald people gathered together! Hope this goes well!
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>>740878598
enjoy the party and don't drink too much



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