Smoke weed everyday edition
>>740878591It would be really funny if Water mages denied you becoming a mage if you smoke too muchalso the hotbar is too small for all the shit I want, especially as a mage
so I want to join the swampweed camp,I've done most quests for 4 baalsthing is, I still have to complete a few errands for the dudes in the new and old campshould I try to earn as much XP as possible before ch2? is it worth it?
>>740878758>is it worth it?Yes, you need both money and exp early on so get the scavanger and run around a bit
Man, I can't believe blacksmithing still has that issue 20 years later, where I have to wait five minutes for the NPC to leave before I can do anything. Wait for him to leave the furnace, wait for him to leave the anvil, wait for him to leave the water tank. Just put two anvils there, or at least make the NPC step aside.
I managed to get inside the abandoned hut just outside the Old Camp, I found a very powerful sword and a tunnel that goes right under the old campI never played the game, have I stumbled in something I shouldn't see at this point?
>>740878758more levels = more skill points absolutely worth itthere's no need to rush to chapter 2
>>740878758>should I try to earn as much XP as possible before ch2? is it worth it?The game seems to ask you that given how scrawny you can still be if you don't prioritize the right stuff, but I never played the original and am just guessing. I'm certainly doing that and will also join the swamp camp.
>>740878591Did they fix the memory leak on consoles yet?
>>740877690well at least it isnt just me, I thought my game just had a bug
>>740878846no need to worry about that but congrats on the sword, finding shit like this is the core of gothic
>>740878915Not a bug, the quest with her only continues after the ritual
Me and the boys
I'M BEING RAPEDthe fuck am I supposed to do in melee against that cunt
>>740878939hell yeahthanks, I also found a cool spear on a shipwreck but I can't seem to find a 2H trainer
>>740879007the lads are great but I wish Gorn didn't look like he had jaundice
>>740878910So far I didn't get a single crash or lock up after 1.005 Funny thing is that before the patch your music stopped playing if you saved and loaded too much, now if the music stops I just save and it starts playing again.
>>740879023I was so fucking over equipped when I got to this fight that it barely even could damage me
>>740879082Lee and Cor Angar will teach you once you join their factions, also some faggot in the old camp who's name I forgot
>>740878846How did you do that? I only manage the other way around. I tried to enter the castle, they stopped, tried again and they started to chase me. Went inside the temple, got assblasted by fire mages. Tried inside the castle/keep itself, and guards got me. Eventually I found some boxes on the left side, managed to climbed them and gave them the middle finger because they couldn't reach me. Started to explore, found some stairs, then tunnel, then door which only opened with some trickery on a torch, then I was outside on that hut.
I'm in chapter 3 and the water mages are fucking bugged. I'm supposed to give them the focus stones but when I try to enter their area the guards and mages attack me. I managed to talk to saturas once by turning into a bug and surprising him from behind, but I don't want to do that everytime I need to go to him.
>>740879302top kek, first the fire mages now the water ones tooNever had that in 2 playthroughs so far but does it stay after shutting the game down?
>>740879271transform-into-animal scrollsthere's a few places where you can use meatbug transformation to crawl through small hole in the door or wallalso bloodfly transformation allows to reach some otherwise unreachable platforms
>>740879271>How did you do that? I bought a bloodfly scroll and managed to jump/fly using a dead tree nearby, not sure if the game just brainfarted or if its one of the intended waysI know you could use a "meatbug scroll" and crawl under the main door with a hole
Do the talismans from the Orc Graveyard do anything? I kind of feel bad that they dissolve immediately when I remove them
HOW IS IT FAIR THAT THE BITCH QUEEN CAN SLICE ME WHEN IM DOWN ON THE FUCKING GROUNDI HATE SPANISH, FUCK OFF YOU SEMITES
I'm pretty sure that I know the old Gothic 1 by the back of my hand, but my brain doesn't want to recognise this game as the old Gothic 1.
>>740879492Mages will buy a few of them for 1 ore nuggy each every once in a while, shame they don't do anything else.
>>740879527You can slice enemies that are on the ground too, retard. Fix your skill issue
>>740879414>>740879456I found out you could transform into animals yesterday lolWas this present in the original game? It's such a tiny little thing for them to care about. Thanks though
>>740879593NIGGERPLAYER SHOULDNT BE TREATED THE SAME RETARDNO WELL MADE GAME ALLOWS ENEMIES TO FUCK YOU UP WHILE YOURE DOWNITS NOT A THING IN DARK SOULSITS NOT A THING IN DRAGONS DOGMAFUCK YOU
Found this.Lit the candles.Nothing happened.So fellow inmates how do I perform some abominable rituals to summon barely clad succubus wenches?
>>740879690>Was this present in the original game? It's such a tiny little thing for them to care about.yup
>>740879527>>740879697Uninstall and play a game that's easier for you if you have so much trouble with one enemy
>>740879690>Was this present in the original game?Yes, only stuff like climbing and diving is completely new, all other mechanics are og
>Oh, so you want another swampweed harvest to sell to the Old Camp? 50 nugs, up front. You know the deal>doesn't actually give me anythingFUCK YOU
Well, I got the most annoying bug. I did the quest for thorus where you escort diggers to the drop off zone and fight off some bandits, standard shit. Well, one of the diggers now just follows me around and demands I get out of his house and then just starts saying “I’ve had enough” over and over nonstop. He’s unkillable and teleports to my position, and monsters simply ignore him. He also frequently stops in doorways so I can’t get past him and if I attack him NPCs around me turn hostile.I was already getting sick of the game crashing every 20 minutes but this is pretty much the last straw for me. I’m just gonna stop playing until they patch this shit
>>740878591anyone try an "archer build" playthrough?i just finished gigawizard sword edition playthrough but there didn't seem to be much at all for bow/crossbow users, having to constantly buy arrows seems annoying too
>>740879861Beat him up and take his shit. It's like you learned nothing from the game.
>>740879148Yeah that sound issue kept happening to me too. Before, I had to restart the game to fix it.
>>740879714Why bother summoning succs if harpy cloaca feels just as good
holy fucking SHIT I can't see fucking ANYTHING in the swamp campmy eyes are already hurting after 10 minutes of wandering
>learning to skin animals costs 250 ore>wolf skins sell for 2 ore a piece at most, and very quickly drop down to 1 and even 0 orehunting skills are a total scam, aren't they
>>740879827UNINSTALL YOUR LIFE HANS I HOPE ARABS WILL BEHEAD YOU
Imagine living in a literal magical realm and still need to get high
>>740879906Bow and crossbow damage scale with dex but there is no dex melee weapon. Bow can be very strong and fast after you master it but buying arrows does suck. I think you can make them yourself if you learn smithing but feathers also seem a rare material so...
>>740880013Well, not 'total' but a bit scammy for sure and they cost way too much early on.Later big enemies like shadowbeasts or trolls drop more expensive stuff.
>>740880013Not total but barely worth it until you have money and don't need those things anymore.Anyway the mages tend to buy claws, teeth and pelts so you will get your investment back
>>740879876>I was already getting sick of the game crashing every 20 minutesThat's console, right? I heard the crashes are vile in them. On PC it's much better, despite the shitty optimization. I only had one crash so far, underground the tavern on New Camp, while doing the quest for the Rice King. Specifically while trying to solve a chest. That's it. Having said that, have you tried using a TP spell to go away from him? It could work
>>740880065>magic realmbut its low fantasy so "magic" can only be used by proper mages and the rich guysit's also very unstable and we see it >>740880007speaking of getting high, I love smoking a fat one in game, the screen gets all blurry and saturated, and I sit on top of the trees at nightbut yes navigation is a hell
>>740880053At least I don't suck at video games lul
FUCKING SHIT GAMETHAT FUCKING ANT PUSHES ME OVER AND THEN FINISHES ME OFF THAT WOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE IN ANY OTHER GAME BUT GOTHICFAGS ARE CULTISTS, GOTHIC 2 DEMAKE WON'T EVEN BE A GAME IT WILL BE A PICTURE OF THE DEVS GOATSING AND THEY WILL STILL PAY FOR IT MMM GOOD LITTLE PAYPIGGIESFUCKING GOLEMS
>>740880007Adjust your settings.
>>740879906those nameplates are too big and ugly
>>740880208low fantasy is something like Battle Brothers, Gothic magic is common enough you have scroll sellers on a Khorinis market
>>740879906just happy to be there
>>740880013Unless you want to have crafting materials for stuff like wolf transformation scrolls then yeah it's pretty useless.
I wanna pin nu-Milten to the wall by his throat and kiss him passionately
>>740880301>nameplates>not the completely out-of-place korean mmo fire demonsi gave up on visual appraisal after seeing how they turned orcs into the most generic-looking fantasy greenskins imaginable
>>740880270Combat is not the strong aspect of this game. Shit, I'd say a lot of stuff isn't, but together they kind of produce a charming result. It's not for you, anon. I got mad with the combat, and then while trying to solve a chest earlier today and yesterday almost enough to quite the game, but I persisted and it's nice now. lolYou need to see beyond the jank, where the waves conspire, to see the Truth.
Ok, SO, I've got>Master One Handed>Trained Bow>Novice Magic>Trained Lockpicking>Acrobatics>Diving>Climbing>RidingWhat skills should I go for from here? The hunting ones? Smithing? Inscribing? Actually mastering the bow? Invest into Strength? Do I just save it all for future unlocks? I have no idea what to prioritize now that I'm good at fighting and have no idea which of the utility ones actually pay off.
>60 posts alreadyI can't follow these threads. I blink and they are gone.
>>740880474COMBAT IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR 80% OF THIS FUCKING GAME THERE IS NO DIPLOMACY, NO ACTUAL STEALTH, DUNGEONS ARE LINEAR CORRIDORS, THERE IS NO PARTY BANTERSO IF COMBAT IS SHIT THAT MEANS THE GAME ITSELF IS SHIT
>>740878591so can i pirate this yet or what?
>>740880207>I heard the crashes are vile in them.That was the case for first couple of days.Then we got 1.003 quickly followed by 1.005.Music still occasionally stops but the crashes aren't a thing anymore.How the fuck can devs fuck up so badly with exactly 2 hardware variations with no OS issues or driver issues is a mystery.
>>740880460yeah the assets look bad too but the nameplates could be easily fixed
>>740880460>most generic-looking fantasy greenskins imaginableI miss the ape orks of old. Runestones and the Foki also look generic as fuck
>>740880570You are going to give yourself a heart attack, anon. lolOr an aneurysm, if you truly are that angry. Just stop playing the game, wait for a few guides on how to ease your playthrough and use them to make it more bearable. I'm totally on your side that the game has some fucking rough edges. These threads are a huge reason on why I'm still playing it.
>>740879918what's funny is I beat up all the guys on my Gomez Faggot Faction and so I have like 75 swords. I didn't even think to beat him up because he's a swell dude just wheeling and dealing.
name single attack more bullshit than the goblin stone throwfucking undodgeable heat seaking bullshit rock
>>740880501Why are you trying to minmax? Just pic a camp and fighting style go with that. You can go full ungabunga melee, archery or just full mage
>>740880609>How the fuck can devs fuck up so badly with exactly 2 hardware variations with no OS issues or driver issues is a mystery.They are a new team, formed by THQ Nordic to work specifically on this game. I bet 100 to 1 that there's some fairly junior devs on the team making a mess of Unreal Engine, that's why is so fucking awful. It's going to get better as the community applies pressure, but I doubt everything will get solved.
is it me or are basic crawlers too small? I think they height mogged you in the OG
>>740880752Yup, I can totally understand how Milten would lose a fight against the gobbos and lose his book.
>>740880827It's not what build I'm going for, it's whether the utility skills are actually worth sacrificing combat progression for, and in a lesser note whether mastering the bow will make much of a difference because it actually already feels pretty good.
my niggas I am worried
>>740880978Bow is absolutely worth it and as for utilities, you're doing ok, I can't think of anything you need. Hunting isn't that useful until you need it for the Ulu-mulu
they say this game isn't gay
>>740881236>Hunting isn't that useful until you need it for the Ulu-muluexcept that quest also just hands you the skill to harvest what you need
Something loud is down there boys...
>>740881318That's not gay, that's prison
I massacred my way into the old camp castle at night to try and save these 2 bitches and one of them fucking called the guards on me so she could escape. I hope I run into her again so I can murder her.
What does Santino in Old mine wants?He's a trader for 'unusual items' but no matter what I bring he always call it garbage.
>>740881387You look like Geralt.
>>740881461You can get the deed for mountain fortress during Ch3 from Lester. Then you can sell it to Santino.
>>740881504Geralt looks like me.
Swamp dudes are the best camp with the most fun playstyle, don't @ me
>>740881527Ok, thanks.I thought he wants some expensive amulets, rings or stolen stuff.
>>740881527Doesn't he fucking drown though?
>>740881564>don't @ meOk.
>>740881564They swamp camp could look incredible if it wasn't for the fucked up lighting of UE
>>740881615No? He makes it back to the old camp. Only some of the named npcs drown
>>740881454i genuinely don't understand the point of the woman characters in the castlethey have no dialogue, they don't want to be rescued, they don't fuckin do anything, the redhead kitchen broad went unresponsive mid-quest when trying to move her to the swampof all the things they expanded and added onto, i'm amazed the foids remain complete non-character entities
>>740879414saw a vid of some mfer flying around as a harpyblew my mind
>>740881721Huh, never saw him. But he can get fucked. Lester should keep the deed and in G2 remake we will go on a quest to turn that place into a hangout for all the boys. They can join us after we free them from the valley.
>>740881727You can talk to her in ch3 at some point about the swamp camp and she asks you to convince the other 2. Then she says they have to wait for the right moment. Then the shit goes down after Ch3 and you can find her and get another quest to save the 2 girls, then the shit I just ran into happens.
>>740881797Is it flying though? Bloodflies only hover above the ground
>>740879697uh oh fromsister meltycan you roll your way out of this one?
>>740881727I like how they mindbroke that one spammer despite being nothingburger characters. It's funny
>>740881906You actually can, and it's like ADP 200 because you roll into another dimension, almostThe hero has some strong legs
Am I free to do all the Old Camp/New Camp/Swamp Camp quests before I get to choose (I assume) which one I'll join?
>>740882038yee
>>740882038Yes.
>>740881727I'm happy they don't focus on the women they're just dancers, cleaners and in the kitchen. This is a mans game for men about big sweaty men all huddled up together sweating, glistening and wrestling in prison.
>>740882038You are full of doubt, yet the Sleeper waits you.
>>740882251Syras is cool cause she gives me exp for something I woulda done anyway.
I don't know how you're supposed to beat this asshole normally as a mage. I just found a safe spot and spammed him down with firebolt for literally 15 minutes. I had to open a stream to not be bored, lol.
>>740882419The Sleeper awaits my sword in his face.
>>740882493your normal sword or meat sword?this is important
I finished the game. Spoilers.In a way, I finally got "over it". Not in a bad way, but it feels like it's complete now and I am finally done with the game. I used to think this game wasn't done justice and it was unrealized potential. Now, whether that is true, I saw the same game realized in a modern way and it feels like it was done justice.It's also become much easier to spot bad design without the rose tinted glasses and charitable lens of judging a 2001 game.Chapter 3 and 5 is a slog. Half the plot is moved with fetch quests, which, past chapter 2 should disappear completely. The game doesn't provide sufficient in universe justification for why the most competent guy around is just running around collecting shit half the time. Then, it moves the plot forward in satisfying power fantasy way, like taking the free mine, killing the old camp castle and such.Furthermore, the lack of acknowledgement of the rest of the world bar the few remaining plot relevant characters is ever present. It feels like you're walking around sucking the soul out of every place you complete a plot relevant thing in. They could've fixed this. But they didn't. It wouldn't have done any damage or upset any hardcore fans for the characters to finally acknowledge the player past the expiration date of their plot relevance.It's also somewhat incredible the design of a 2001 game, just with some spots coloured in and edges smoothed out carries a game so fucking hard so many years later. They were truly visionaries. But it's still a 25 year old design. KCD2 is the evolved quest design and better power curve of original gothic objectively speaking.I played the original when it came out and it's my first RPG btw. So I am not a poser.
>>740880289eh it was night when I got there and also stormingfucking hell
I keep getting weird stuttering that causes my keyboard to shut off, never had this issue with any other game before. Anyone know what the fuck is happening? Is my motherboard dying or something?
Just finished the ork graveyard, too lazy to spoiler>I really liked how you now meet Baal Lukor beforehand. It always felt like he appeared out of nowhere. Not really sure how I feel about him already acting crazy before he attack you, though. It kind of softens the impact.>I don't understand why they removed the teleportation spell. That was pretty cool in the OG. If anything I wished the added some death traps like in the sleeper temple>I really hate how they removed the lightning from that one orc warrior. He always looked so imposing with the light shining on him, like an actual boss.>Speaking of which, I wish they had buffed Baal Lukor, because he went down like such a wet noodle.>Not sure how I feel about Y'Berion dying beforehand. I guess it's more dramatic. Also, RIP searching for healing plants while dodging swampsharks.>I really love how Angar and Cor Kalom actually fight before breaking off.>I also kind of wish Lester had some dialogue. He's just standing there saying nothing.>But I really hate how they changed the orc voices. They were so terrifying in the OG, but now they sound so average. Not sure if they did that because they can talk in Gothic 3, but what a downgrade.
>>740882712Good points overall but I also understand Alkimias position. The trailer and demo were shit and neither they nor the audience even knew IF they could pull this off at all. So trying to change too many aspects of the quests might've gone wrong and they focused on copying it as close as they could with only minor additions and adjustments.What is done is done and the few changes they did do together with the great work they provided were received well. The spaniards earned that wall carving in the Ork graveyard. Furthermore they can now move with much greater confidence and remake g2 with even greater changes, where it makes sense.
>>740883000>But I really hate how they changed the orc voices. They were so terrifying in the OG, but now they sound so average.Install this mod:https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/113
>>740883000Bald Liquor was always unhinged from the moment you meet him and him being more unstable in the middle of a fucking ork graveyard surrounded by dead templers which he went to after a massive psychic event in which his leader died, makes sense. It wouldn't have surprised me if he started frothing at the mouth immediately.>>740883169cool and now one that changes their design back to ape likes instead of bigger human
>>740883000>But I really hate how they changed the orc voices.hasbro said it's racist to depict orcs as anything other than wise native american analogies now
>>740883290I love when politically correct takes on fantasy is>see a bunch of non human primitives>WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS RACIST AGAINST NIGGERS?!>turn them into a caricature of a real life culture and pat yourself on the back whats going on in leftist heads is beyond me
aaah, new camp... home.
>>740883290Hasbro didn't invent orcs.
>can't seem to do anything after 2-3 quests in the old camp>visit the swamp>run in circles lost like a retard for two hours>finally pick up Lester's quest and Dusty's >go back to the old camp for easy progress with Dusty >nah fuck mate you now need to grind for 100 ore>have a book worth 170>nobody has enough to buy itguess I'm grinding scavenger meat
Even if it wouldn't make sense I wish you could turn Uriziel into a ranged weapon, like how a mage can turn it into a rune.
>>740883789turning it into a bow that shoots lightning seems like an obvious and easy choice
Is this game actually good?Or is it another one of those "you had to be there for it" things
>>740884205Yeah, its really good if you like open-world sword and sorcery games. Even though i feel like they're a dime a dozen these days. This one has a good story and quest system.
>>740884205it's decentthis is mostly completely correct >>740883000it's your average 'two steps forward one step back' remaster with a lot of nice qualities alongside the usual "what the fuck were you thinking" changes also they turned every enemy model into generic mmo fantasy shit
>>740884370>Even though i feel like they're a dime a dozen these daysTHere are none with actual dialoguesAll of the rpgs these days are combat slop
>>740884205It's really good, but buggy.
>>740884768>It's really good, but buggy.Soul
>>740883057Of course. They cannot just change how Ulu-Mulu is made even though it's a dumb fetch quests.They cannot change focus stone collecting even though it's also a bunch of fetch quests.Them removing healing herb collecting during dying Y'Berion actually makes me trust them a little more when making their own choices.They need to drop the stupid puzzles though. Although they were in original, they were never good and shouldn't add more of them or expand on them further.Still though. It's a 25 year old game wearing new clothes and it shows.Also the combat system doesn't get enough credit. If they had spent just a bit more time on it it would've genuinely been one of the best melee systems in an RPG.
>>740885195>They cannot just change how Ulu-Mulu is made even though it's a dumb fetch quests.>They cannot change focus stone collecting even though it's also a bunch of fetch quests.Why not? It's a remake, not a remaster.
>>740885553people would start screeching autistically if they had>Muh Ulu-Mulu is no longer a show of strength. >You no longer have to kill minecrawlers to get into the mine!>Focus stone collecting was so iconic!And really, they weren't at a luxury to do too much. The same reason why they were prevented from making stupid shit like hero sarcastically talking to himself is also why they kept the dumb slog stuff in.It is what it is.
>>740883057>they can now move with much greater confidence and remake g2 with even greater changesI don't know why you would want that. With more confidence and less criticism comes more ego. I expect way more "we know better than the original creator" attitudes and absolute bullshit changes in a Gothic 2 Remake, if they make it now. They already made some pretty bad changes with this remake and they were sticking pretty closely to the original.
>>740884205it is legit good altough world might seem small if you compare it to TES or ER
>>740883789they could make it so you find a couple of artefact weapons and the rune separately and Xarass can put it into whatever you want.
>>740885804>they were prevented from making stupid shit like hero sarcastically talking to himselfNobody but themselves prevented them to do that. They were (rightfully) bullied and they were spineless.Besides, I don't even know where the fuck you can lead the story after blowing up the exchange elevator in the intro. Gomez would sperg out in chapter 1 if that was the case.On the other hand, changing a bit the focus stone collecting? They're completely and utterly irrelevant to the plot.
>>740886037>I don't know why you would want that.Because Gothic has plenty of flaws and the devs might be able to fix some of them. Mostly thinking of extra quests after chapter 2 for example.
>>740884768what's good abot it?
the combat is so fucking brutal this time. those high level dudes are fast as lightning and stagger seems to be dependent on damage.
>>740886403The Foki are actually something I like since you get to do a quest with your bros in new and interesting locations and without the stones Saturas would never even tell who Xardas is.
>>740883789>a mage can turn it into a runeIt's already a rune, that's the entire point of that option. You don't turn it into one, you merely throw away the sword part.Personally I would've flipped the script around: you power up the rune first and if you can't use it then you get to transfer it into a weapon.
>>740886638It's just as brutal as it should be and the only way to git gus is learn the moves and get more skills/gear.
>>740886638All human and orc enemies are extremely easy to bait though, just roll their attacks and smack them once or twice and repeat, sometimes you can just back peddle as well. They don't ever have extremely fast quick attacks like animals do.
>>740886403to be fair, focus stone collecting was too iconic to remove, so they get a pass theresome of the locations like the harpy fortress are goodThe troll in original was much better and I didn't find the note on dead guy that was in original, which was one of the best pieces of world building in the original. An actual piece of info from before barrier describing the world outside too. They should've done more of that. Especially in fortress too. UnfortunateBut they should've added the option to go with Saturas' plan.Like give the option to genuinely blow up New Camp.Make Old Camp descend into a lawless hellhole once leadership inside castle is decapitated.Could've given Cor Angar more relevance too.
>>740886548>what's good abot it?It doesn't hold your hand and expects you to figure things out yourself.You don't pick a class from a list, the character you end up being is based on the choices you make in the world.Enemies legitimately feel dangerous.The music is pretty good too
>>740886667The basic idea is fine, the problem is that most locations are underbaked. A bunch of goblins and an immortal character aggroing a troll waiting for you to use a conveniently placed scroll? Really?Also, that's the only content available in chapter 4. It gets dull very fast.
>>740886784they get pretty fast imo. the fact that they switch up the combos doesn't help.
>>740886845>Like give the option to genuinely blow up New Camp.How? They just don't have the numbers. Unless you mean a complete revamp of the story where Gomez doesn't sperg out and you somehow manage to convince the Fire Mages to abandon their gilded cage.It also wouldn't work anyway. I guess it could make for a cool bad ending where absolutely nothing happen and you don't have a way to power up Uriziel.
>>740886993Fair point. A few times I thought that the remake needed a remake to fix the deeper issues of the og but even theory it turns messy very easily.
>>740887315Or a bad ending where everything but the tower of Xardas gets destroyed and before you click the reload button you hear him call everybody a fucking idiot.
>>740880013>hunting skills are a total scam, aren't theyNo, they just take a while to break even, but you will absolutely make bank with them.Wolf skins aren't worth shit, but every animal has skin/teeth/claws that you can sell for a few bucks each, you'll make back the investment relatively quickly.And once you kill your first shadowbeast, you're going to feel real silly if you don't know how to take trophies.
>>740887315I mean, you could play the role of 8th mage Xardas was supposed to. You're a mage at that point in story too.It wouldn't have worked, but they had all the necessary stuff to do it. Could've made it so you don't get powered up Uriziel as result. And made Uriziel not the required tool to get in. Uriziel powering the barrier was ridiculous too.
>>740887563Xardas could replace half a dozen Fire Mages because he is an absolute master and has been for years. You learned magic 3 weeks ago and Milten 2 years.
>>740881318>literally half a dozen women in the entire colony, all of them hidden away by the most powerful menYea, they keep it low key, but we all know there is buttfuckery going on in the colony.
do you think Gorn is a virgin?
I could beat up grim and the other 2 goons at the same time but the fucking bloodflies still filter me on 1 on 1. I died like 20 times, I can't fucking dodge their attack.
>>740887563>You're a mage at that point in story too.Only in some playthroughs though, is the game suppose to force you to become a mage after you specced for swords and bows?
>>740887727I made sure that wasn't the case any longer
>>740887759ranged only
>>740887727>>740887831men can't be virginsyou have no hymen
>>740887670All the more reason it would fail. Also, Xardas is overrated.I also don't get why the barrier was sustained by the sleeper.From my understanding, Sleeper just disturbed the barrier so it was larger than originally intended (also makes no sense why barrier's center is in old camp, it should be the old mine if you think about it>>740887769no, you simply wouldn't get the option if you're below circle 5, and that's it
I think lockpicking system is alright. Some locks are straight up bullshit but otherwise it's not that bad. Just wish that loot was better.
>>740887420Yeah, it's a cascade of issues.Personally the main thing I would focus for an hypothetical remake (and not a remaster sold as a remake) would be to expand on faction content. Basically, make three separate main quests (or four, as I would like a "hidden" factionless option like getting Uriziel in chapter 1 in the og) that eventually end up fighting the Sleeper but for different reasons.
ambushed at night aaaaa
>>740878846Welcome to Gothic, where progression paths to getting more powerful are only limited to what you're willing to explore or who you manage to kill.
>>740887928>Also, Xardas is overrated.Nah, dude is Circle 6 and the only one who actually figured out what was actually happening. It also makes sense that the presence of a magical creature like the sleeper would sustain the barrier after coming into contact with him. As to where it was centered, old camp would make sense if they knew about deposits further down than the old mine.>>740888102A sound plan but there is no special reason needed to fight the sleeper since our dude wants to gtfo.
>>740887924and yet if you never bust a nut inside a woman you turn crazy
I don't understand the sleep healing. When does the rest heal resource replenish?
>>740888248Xardas isn't worth 3 average fire mages when it comes to attention span and focus.The game implies mana is a direct measure of that.His quality is in crystalized knowledge and willingness to do the unorthodox.
>>740888392>comes to attention span and focusYou sure? The guy can casually build towers with his minions and since he has been circle 6 for years now he may be far above the average Fire Mage. If not Saturas wouldn't even have bothered suggesting that could replace Corristo and the gang.
>>740888360its bugged
>>740887670>Xardas could replace half a dozen Fire MagesXardas was a director, he would still need the actual musicians if he wanted to replicate the symphony.And he doesn't want to because he knows that it wouldn't work.
>>740888552Yes I am sure"I want to strengthen my mind"Controlling a barrier explosion isn't about being able to summon demons or constructing towers (which, let's be honest, are ridiculous for stylistic choices not because it makes any sense in universe)
>>740888628My dude Saturas isn't like Milten. The guy has also been a circle 6 Mage for years now and if he thinks Xardas is just built different, then I will believe him. The fact that it would never work is completely besides the matter.
>>740888691I am not saying Xardas could make the plan work, I am saying Saturas did NOT ask for him as a replacement for 6 Fire Mages because he had too much of that ganja.
>>740888731>>740888818Saturas is Circle 6 too.And it was shown his judgement isn't the best.Xardas himself doesn't think he could do it either btw.
generals go on /vg/
Has anyone (PC) had the map bug? Where you open the map and you literally can't close out of it (even hitting escape)?I swear i've been getting it more recently (maybe because I use the map more). I think it's because the arrow hovers over items in your inventory as the map opens, leading the Map UI (press escape etc to close it) no longer functioning. So fucking annoying
>>740881318The colony is inhabited almost exclusively by R-strategy men. Do you see them going 10 years celibate?
>>740888894No Saturas was obviously wrong about the magical nuke plan but if he thinks Xardas is a rough equivalent of 6 Fire bros, I'll trust his judgement.
>>740888930that place is a cancer among cancers
>>740888984Why would you trust the judgement of a guy who thinks blowing up a barrier is a solid plan?I just want to blow up the big pile of rocks and destroy the New Camp nigger.
>>740888984>he thinks Xardas is a rough equivalent of 6 Fire brosHe doesn't. He basically asks you to go to Xardas and get a revised ritual which doesn't require as many mages because nobody else actually bothered to study theoretical magic.
>>740888360Every 3 hours you are awake you gain 1 hour of rested sleep healing 12.5% health/mana (capping at 8 hours rested), so staying awake 24 hours will let you heal fully when sleeping for 8 hours.
>>740889062Because Saturas judging the power levels of his peers is something I believe he can do. The barrier and sleeper thing needed out of the box thinking which he wasn't able to.>>740889112Is that what he says? I don't remember a line like that.
>>740880301>the squadHas any RPG game had a set of homies like this that persist between games?
>>740889218Not that I can think of.
>>740879023I really shouldn't stick my penis in there
>>740887928>Xardas is overratedbro literally defeated the gods and free'd humanity from their stupid ass shit that kept killing everyone
>>740889195>Is that what he says?That's what I always assumed. Saturas never says that he wants Xardas to come there to the ore mound, he just wants a reply to his love letters.
>>740889394No he just opened a portal to another worldGods should be untouchable which is why the line about Sleeper being as powerful as Beliar is also stupid
>>740889404I suppose. One way or another Xardas is one step above most if not all circle 6 mages and it shows.>>740889478I understood it as the sleeper can fuck shit up just as badly as he can which does track.
>>740887950>Some locks are straight up bullshitThat's the problem with it. Even as a master lockpicker I ran into some frustrating ones
>all those screenshots with pitch black nightsits not a fun way to play, might as well turn off the monitor
>>740889478The sleeper was an arch demon that was gaining so much power he was about to become a god, which is why we had to stop him.Xardas and the hero destroy the divine relics, removing the gods tether from the world, removes rune magic so divine favor is gone, then they defeat all the gods avatars so they cannot manafest into the world. Then with all the divine magic they absorbed, then they go through the portal since they were the only ones left with a connection to the gods, now leaving the world godless.
>>740889478I liked it much better when the Gods seemed almost incapable of directly affecting the world.In Gothic it felt like the mages were religious because it was their culture and those religious orders kept the knowledge of magic a well guarded secret.In Gothic 2 you donate gold to altars and get blessings.
Does choosing warders or mages affect the story in any way?
>>740889819Fuck that bullshit, the Gods of Gothic are cool and so is rune magic and I really hope all of G3 gets retconned.
Did xardas just find some edgy ass abandoned towers to live in or did he conjure these structures up from nothing?
Beliar is the best godBest magic and the coolest robes
>>740889962he conjures them out of nothingit's stupid but I'll allow it
>>740889962In Gothic it was left ambiguous, in Gothic 2 it's confirmed by at least on other character other than him that he can simply get a new tower in two (2) weeks.
>>740889832>In Gothic it felt like the mages were religious because it was their culture and those religious orders kept the knowledge of magic a well guarded secret.Thats the exact reason, it wasn't their culture, its just they knew how to be granted divine favors by Innos in order to obtain magic. So they gatekept it to keep themselves in power.>In Gothic 2 you donate gold to altars and get blessings.At this point most of the mages are dead and Xardas removed all rune magic in the world, so Mages are desperate to bolster their ranks in order to maintain their favor with Innos and openly share their methods so they don't get wiped out by the convicts and orcs rampaging across the continent.
>>740889832>In Gothic 2 you donate gold to altars and get blessings.Only to Innos and it's not about the gold itself but about sacrificing something value and its not like the Mages have any direct contact in fact they might not know shit about what Innos wants since we know for a fact that Nameless Hero is chose but Ulthar and Serpentes have no fucking clue.I also like how you can sacrifice life points to Beliar who gives you gold but also fucks you over. It's just a little tidbit, a tiny tether to the divine with which you can't do much, they are still distant and mysterious
>>740890059The Sleeper has best magic.Psionics are just cooler than everything else.
>>740890104> removed all rune magic in the worldwrong
>>740889962iirc he uses summoned minions to erect his towersI think he mentions in one of his dialogues that his minions can be expeditious builders
>>740890195Little combat value
is there anyone that pays anything for arrows? everyone pays 0 fucking ore.
>>740889938>the Gods of Gothic are coolIf Xardas didn't do what he did, then the world would have been destroyed then and there. Innos self cucked cause him splitting himself to create his two brothers made him upset since they turned out to be assholes killing people. So he took his divine essence and sealed it away, basically making himself a shell, which Beliar noticed and went on the offensive. Which is why Humanity in G3 is nearly extinct, and Anados is about to flood the entire planet because of it since there is no longer balance. So the only way to truly save the world, was to banish the gods themselves.
>>740890231Yeah in g2 if you spoke with Lester he tells you about the tower appearing overnight
>>740890195you serve MY God you little weed cultist, you better remember that
>>740890285no>>740890305retarded g3 lore doesn't concern me
>>740889962summons demons and undead who never tire and just build shit, thats why he's built like 4 towers so easily
>>740890104>they knew how to be granted divine favors by Innos in order to obtain magicBut (You) don't have to.In fact, you get to join multiple magical clubs in the OG and never once you get struck down by lightning. You want Innos, Adanos AND Beliar's magic? Sure go ahead.
Bought itPlayed for 30 minutesIt crashedRefundedI sorta liked what I was experiencing but I don't have the time to be dealing with an unoptimized game that crashes.
>>740890402isn't that because the hero is basically Innos chosen or was that at the start of G2?
>>740890402>You want Innos, Adanos AND Beliar's magic? Sure go ahead.Everyone can do that, it's just how magic runes work but I wonder what happens if you piss all 3 off with your actions.
>>740890259>wind magic for aoe control>pyrokinesis to clown on every single lone enemy>mental magic like charm/sleep to make every fight a 1v1It's just great.
>>740890454Considering how fucking dangerous the Gothic world is, he kinda has to be. In cannon the Hero completed the entire story of Gothic in Ironmad mode without any prior knowledge of events and items. Basically impossible.
>>740890402>In fact, you get to join multiple magical clubs in the OG and never once you get struck down by lightning. You want Innos, Adanos AND Beliar's magic? Sure go ahead.Thats the gameplay reason, not the lore reason. They aren't going to make the player pray and study for 2 literal years before they can cast firebolt cause Innos decided you were ready.
>>740890475>G1>Xardas studying summoning demons and the undead has everyone so worried he's forced to leave>G2>the fire mages have their own summoner mage who does nothing but teach people how to summon demons and the undeadhow the FUCK is a potential G2 remake gonna deal with this?
>>740890454NTA, but that's G2 stuff. there was no religion in G1. it's all a retcon. the mages being priests, demons belonging to beliar etc. the only mention of gods in G1 is Gomez's sword.
>>740890454>isn't that because the hero is basically Innos chosen or was that at the start of G2?Yea, nameless hero is chosen. And considering how Beliar and Ananos ARE Innos technically, it only makes sense that the nameless hero can do literally anything.
>>740890560at least from what I remember you are 100% Innos chosen in G2 but I don't know in G1
Lads, where do I find petrified wood?
>>740890627>the fire and water mages are HUGE hypocritesHow did you not catch on about how retarded mages are?
Jesus, this shit brings back memories. I remember a call I got from a doctor when I was first exploring Xardas' abandoned tower. I remember the air freshener our family used when I was forging swords in the swamp camp.
Are there other recipes than what Snaf teaches you?
>>740890627In g1 they are completely isolated from the world and if Xardas wanted to fuck their shit up, they couldn't have stopped him. >>740890689He kinda has to be chosen because otherwise it would be essentially impossible to achieve all those feats. Innos blessed our hero with the quick save and quick load powers which why he can do what others cannot.
>>740890689In G1 you're the Chosen One of an orc prophecy, arguably it could coincide with being Innos' Chosen but it's obviously a G2 "DEFEAT THE ARMY OF EVIL" writing quirk.
>>740890689>at least from what I remember you are 100% Innos chosen in G2 but I don't know in G1In G1 you aren't chosen, but becausee of how capable you are, Innos eventually makes the nameless hero his chosen after defeating the sleeper. If I recall, Xardas even mentions that you don't have to be innos' chosen to wield the power of Uriziel.
>>740890231>>740890087Why are the other mages so fucking useless compared to him? I just watched most of the fire mages get wrecked by dudes with swords before they could even cast a single spell, meanwhile Xardas is out there in impregnable towers protected by demons and shit all made possible by himself.
>>740890905>In G1 you're the Chosen One of an orc prophecyCor Kalom was the chosen one of the Orc Prophecy.
>>740890886The house a few meters away from snaf where you can sleep also has a recipe and there is one in the old mine, top floor on a small crate at Santinos
>>740890812I remember Listening to Hybrid Theory when talking to Cavalorn
>>740891051its simple, they are innos moralfags so they are weak
>>740880013>chapter 1>go to the mine, to the bottom>there are three minecrawler next to two templars>aggro the minecrawlers>they absolutely rape the templars>loot their swords>800 ore for each of themOnly combat skills and maybe lockpicking is worth it. The moneymaking skills are completely shit
>>740891051because the fire mages got complacent, even Gomez comments on how all they do is sit on their ass and drink wine all daythey were so smug with their superiority that they attempted to live like nobles in the barrier rather than do anything about itXardas was the only mage who dared to question the gods motives and was exiled because of it
>>740891051they got literally backstabbed
how is it compared to tes games? i want to try it out but if it doesnt play 99% like a tes game then i wont like it
>>740891051The Fire Mages got lazy, they hadn't actually done anything for years with the exception of Milten. They got soft and were arrogant enough to think they are untouchable even among criminals. Xardas was the only one who dared study outside of his dogma which is why discovered the truth.
>>740891051>fire mages get wrecked by dudes with swordsThis has always been retarded.The only reason the mages were alive in the first place is that nosy old camp fags would get burned alive and have their corpse scattered all over the valley if they even tried to enter their temple.
>>740891237One of those Templars is necessary for the quest with Lares and the Minecrawler Queen. Does it not bug out?
>>740891298then you wont like it
>>740891382they are flagged as essential so they can't die, you can just loot their items. They will not use their weapons in the battle (not like it matters anyway)
>reload save>spawn in the middle of a hanging lamp>be stuck10/10 game
>>740891427lol
do you think Pirahna had some issues with authority and religion? In G2 it's noticeable how mages are greedy cunts and paladins are just cunts
>>740891438dodge roll
>>740891415so its a bad game? thanks for the heads up i wont boughted it
>>740891438So far it pushes me away every time I get stuck in the terrain.
Does snaff always gives you 3 meatbug stews if you do the basic quest for it? i did brock quest and he still gives 3 portions
>>740891237>Only combat skills and maybe lockpicking is worth it. The moneymaking skills are completely shitJust like in the original then.
>>740891518no problem, have a nice day
>>740891501They're cunts because law and order are no longer existent, something they devoted their lives to uphold. So they ahve no tolerance for the constant barrage of convicts and orcs attempting to wipe them and the rest of civilization out.
>>740891501No because the Water Mages in 2 are chill and while the Paladins are dicks they still march into hell to fight against monsters.
>>740891345This, steel swords can't penetrate mage robes. It was an inside job.
>>740891554>Does snaff always gives you 3 meatbug stewsyes, you don't get anything else except more xp for quests from him
I opened the gates in the castle in 2 to culturally enrich paladins
>>740891554It’s bugged
>>740891345Yeah, they specifically mention that the last guy to fuck with them was scattered across the camp.But maybe they surprised them. I think they mention that Gomez had them murdered in their sleep.
Hey I found in extremo, they are all locked up inside the dungeon
>>740891501Bjorn is literally a swamp camp NPC irl.And that perspective is common in post religious western world.It's not far fetched to have a class of people weilding powerful magic be huffing their farts and act like a caricature of european church
>>740891504Didn't get me free.
>>740891345When I talked to quentin and he was telling the story about why he can't trust mages because of how one cast rain of fire on a battlefield and burnt everyone alive, allies and orcs. He said no one should have that kind of power but then I see the old camp mages get shrekt like nothing.
>>740891671Have you seen the stats on those robes? Even wooden fucking swords can penetrate them
some of you guys are alright, don't go to old camp tomorrow
>>740891780>no...no..noone should have that power!Tell that to ork shamans you fucking faggot. The mage was a retard but his opinion is trash too.
are the digger clothes from Fisk worth it?
>dodgeroll swamp shark>start charging ball lightning immediately after>can full charge attack before it attacks againjank ludo
Is there any way to challenge kirgo in the arena again if you lose to him? Otherwise it seems i'm locked out of impressing scatty.
>>740891924>300 nuggiesfuck no
>>740891924you can get free digger clothes at the new camp mines
>>740891780The remake really downplayed how lazy and fat the fire mages had become, and how much Gomez prepared for the day when he would slaughter them all.
>>740891924You can get some free ones from the new camp mine by asking the foreman a few times but the small defense isn't really going to save you from anything
>>740891924No since you can get similar clothes for free in New Camp.
>>740891924just get the free set from the new camp minetalk to the foreman there
>>740891924no need to drop the hard R
After this i trust them with Gothic 2 remake, but i hope they will be more confident changing things this time around. They wanted to be faithful, which is fine, but that also means they did not fix the 2nd half of the game being pretty much just fetch quests that are identical no matter what faction you pick.
>>740891939So lightning ball has a bug where enemies just stare at you until its fully charged. Walk up to any enemy and just start charging, you will see what I mean.
>>740892056I only played the og a few times, what other things does it show about it?
>>740892101>no matter what faction you pick.Like it matters since you get kicked out of Old Camp and the Swamp falls apart, so you're forced to join New Camp anyways.
>>740892056was it played out the same were they just shank them in the courtyard? That felt weird to me because why the fuck were all the mages outside anyway and conveniently surrounded by warders? I could see it if they waited until the mages were asleep and killed the mage guarding them then murdered them while they were defenseless but there was no reason why all the mages just decided to walk outside and stand around while you talk to the head mage
>>740892124>only barely useful with a bugA lot of the runes are kinda shit
>>740892061>small defense isn't really going to save you from anythinghaving the digger clothes on gives you free pass inside the new camp tavern tho
>>740892219Pretty sure you can't change from Swamp Camp. New Camp only takes you in after Old Camp betrays you.
>>740892248I janky climbed up the left side of the tavern and went in from 2nd floor
>>740892234they were in the middle of an argument about attacking the new mine/helping water mages
ahh shitty new camp tavern.. home
>>740892332just looked weird because they weren't like facing each other one group to another, the fire mages were basically clumped together surrounded by warders
>>740892373nights are great in demake, you legit can't see fuck all and feel oppressive when you're in the wilderness
>>740892412Yeah it was kind forced but anything else would require a lot of work for a short scene.
>>740892332Also when you report it to water mages, the MC says gomez was wearing some armor that protected him from spells but cutscene didn't even show the fire mages get any spells off in the first place. They should have put up some kind of fight.
Ngl I am starting to think they shot themselves in the foot not making Old Camp hostile. It's really weird when you get the fire mages cutscene and then are free to just walk around. It just causes a ton of narrative and gameplay inconsistencies. I think the NPC reactions and behaviours really need a lot of tweaking in general
>>740892534Yeah, since Gomez believes you are responsible for collapsing the mine and that you work with the Water Mages you should be kill-on-sight for the entire old Camp.
>>740892553wish they gave you the option to go bald
>>740892553this dude out here using probably the worst 2 hander in the entire game
>>740892434Can't see monsters in the dark but they can see you
>>740892631I mean let's be honest, you are.I am surprised it wasn't brought up that you caused an explosion in the mine after the fact and was instead blamed on the ritual
>>740892553Can you make yourself bigger? By mods, some model swapsProtagonist should be so scrawny
>>740892631Old Camp is generally a sequence-breaking mess in the later parts of the game and the NPCs can bug out to hell. I imagine it would've been much better and stable to just turn everyone into attack drones
>>740892715I was trying it out brother. Chill.
>>740892781If it had been that ore bomb the effect would have been immediate. They also knew there was no water on the other side of that tunnel.
>>740892925not necessarilytemperature changes, underground water flow changes and such can cause a collapse later
>>740892905its bad and you should feel bad for trying it out
One handed mastery worth it compared to just pumping strength by +20?
>>740892642don't forget the tats
>>740893075Absolutely, it changes your moveset and is a total game changer.
>>740891939managed to knock down scar with 4 ball lightnings while he stood there and did nothing then looted his sword. ran away to deaggro the guards and now everyone is chill again while I got a free sword.
>>740892779>gaming journalists be like: nights and caves too dark, I actually have to use torches!
>>740893075yes, you get way faster animations and combo chains
>>740893070Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man.
>>740893110>>740893160Well looks like I need to drum up 4000 XP as fast as I can.
>>740892156Basically how Gomez attempted to have Xardas(the head of the fire mages at the time) assassinated a long time ago, and in order to set an example, the Fire Mages spread chunks of the the assassian all over the Old Camp and threatened them saying they're next if they try anything. Lorewise a single three circle mage could devistate an army of 10,000 by himself. So having all the Fire and Water Mages chilling in Old Camp was like walking on eggshells while being in complete terror now that they're absolutely pissed. The only reason Gomez attempts to kill the fire mages is because the Water Mages left and Xardas left, and since they were all stuck in the barrier, he saw this as his chance to acquire their tower and gain their secrets.Gomez also thinks all mages are inhuman monsters that toy with life at a whim after he saw the shit Xardas did. In the back of his mind, he was always afraid of the mages and if another Xardas would appear(which one does, its you).Also Gomez is insane due to his paranoia and desperation for power, which is also why he wants to kill all the mages. The remake didn't really do a good job showing how Gomez was absolutely batshit crazy and people only followed his orders cause Gomez had a treaty with the King to recieve outside goods. He felt like he was going to lose that to the mages, since he could easily be replaced where as mages loyal to the King could easily replace him and wouldn't have to basically strong arm the King.Also as the chapters go on, npcs start getting exiled as Gomez's paranoia gets worse, and Old Camp eventually falls into totalitarianism. Which is why Corristo eventually flips out at Gomez which causes him to execute his plan to murder all the Mages in the barrier.Random NPC dialog is a lot more static in the remake and more focus seems to be put on named characters, fleshing them out more. Which I don't mind at all, but in the OG nameless diggers were a great source of lore as the chapters went on.
Is there a way to learn magic circles bigger than 1 if I pick Warder?I don't need max magic, just something better than fire bolt.
>>740892795on PC we could get a mod where you get buff as you get more str, you never know
>>740879906i can not put into words how much i despise unreal engine vfx sand
>>740893651>train 1 handed mastery>character becomes pic related
>>740893651>Start of the game: Sticc DYEL mode.>Strength 30: As Nameless is already ingame.>Strength 60: Conan the Barbarian.>Strength 100: Average gay bara doujin protag.
>>740893751jej
does the sleeper temple still have the only switch in the entire game that you need to shoot with a bow?
>>740893973orc graveyard entrance
>>740893431Yes and no. You can go up to circle 4 if you chose swamp, but there aren't that many spells in the game desu. And 99% of them suck ass.
do more sidequests unlock or is chapter 3+ basically just linear?
>>740894318Like every RPG, sidequets basically become non-existent as the game goes on. Thats why chapter 1 takes like 12 hours, and the rest of the 5 chapters is like 8 hours.
>>740894318I finally managed to start Syra's relocation quest at the beginning of ch3She didn't want to talk during ch2 with me
>>740892064>>740892061>>740892062>>740892027Where's the foreman? I thought it's this guy but he told me to fuck off.
>Giganiggergooger casually ACKs itselfO GURWA :---DD
>>740878591hese are the steps it took to unlock a chest in the swamp camp with 0 skillP1 leftP2 rightP2 rightP2 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP5 rightP2 rightP4 leftP1 leftP3 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP5 rightP2 rightP4 leftP1 leftP3 rightP2 rightP5 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP4 leftP1 leftP5 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP4 leftP1 leftP5 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP4 leftP5 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP4 leftP5 rightP2 rightP3 rightP2 rightP4 leftP5 rightP5 rightP5 right
Spent 3k ore at xardas buying 2 perma pots and a recipe for a perma pot. I hope he restocks.
>>740894776hes just some regular digger looking guy a bit down the hill from the entrance sitting outside a house, forgot his name
>>740894837what's that old bitch need the ore for anyway?
Playing this game blind feels incredible, it's a blast from the past with peak feelshow come Oblivion remake didnt hit the same last year? was it truly Betheslop all along,and not even a UE5 coat of paint can save Todd?I for one am looking forward to Gothic 2 remake
>>740894837>bought the recipes for perma pots>never made em and just finished the game then uninstalledidk why, but by the time i feel like the end of the game is drawning near, i get tired of it and rush to the endi wish i wasn't like this
>>740894785I'd rather try to fist a scavenger than submit myself to that shit
>>740895208It's naturalI feel this formula caps out at around 30 hours. I was mentally done with the game in Chapter 5 and the stupid temple puzzles and temple guards were annoying as hell.
>>740894910Gothic was the OG RPG that set the standards for what followed. Elders scrolls wouldn't exist if Gothic did not exist, also Oblivion was always overhyped and the weakest ES game. The only reason it got popular, was because it was the normies entry into the series since it was so casualized.
>>740895304I started getting annoyed by the game when I finally got the Fire Storm spell, and found out the literal fire tornado you summon has a smaller hitbox than an arrow. So even if a monster is in the tornado, if it isn't in the dead center of it, it won't take damage.
>>740895457People should stop building too much mythos around this game because it's doing it damage.It's objectively wrong that it inspired Elder Scrolls in any capacity. It's a completely different DNA. It's like comparing Source shooters with Call of Duty.
>>740888936Yes, click the close button with your mouse when it happens
>>740894785
What the FUCK is that growling/burping sound near this guy that teaches you to climb?
>>740895940it's a hint :^)
>>740895940zombies
>>740895940thank god I'm not the only one hearing it, it was driving me crazyI climbed on a nearby cliff, I can see another climbing wall neaxt to a chest but I honestly have no idea how to reach it
>lurker and wolves team up to fuck me in the asscool cool
>>740896008>>740896015How do I find them?I used chatgpt, it hallucinated an entire cave that's meant to be below me (there's nothing), I swam past the ship wreckage, found a climbable wall and a fire lizard at the top (noped out, only in chapter 2, was too far to be making the noise)
>>740896080come from the top of that cliff from the left side (if you're facing that NPC) you can climb down and around to another cave
You know.Playing this game for the first time, the more I laugh remembering Witcher 3 retards back in the day calling it a "spiritual successor to Gothic". Unironically hilarious now that i've finally played this gameAlso why doesn't this skeleton have any runes on its corpse.
>>740895304Nta but yeah, I love these games but I am under no delusion and I know their systems don't have the greatest longevity once you leave the hobo phase. What keeps you engaged past that point is mostly the story ramping up and getting the coolest looking weapons and armor.
>>740896080cave is up the cliff, you can start from firelizard beach and go up, then look aroundthere's a focus stone and a bunch of paths you can takeone of them will lead you to a cave with 2 zombies there's some bow near the other exit of zombie cage and chest with lightning ball rune inside
what a completly normal sketch to own, the novice this belongs to must be very mentally stable
>>740889819Sleeper is just an avatar of Beliar, just like NH is an avatar of Innos (until G3), his role is to fuck up shit and kill the living.
>>740896175I genuinely think i'm being trolled
How's this run on a base ps5? Seems like it mite b cool
>fiddle with keybinds>decide I prefer the vanilla after all>reset to default>heavy attack suddenly disables lock-on
>>740896278that's how I did it, or try this>>740896236
>>740895623>It's objectively wrong that it inspired Elder Scrolls in any capacity.Oblivion exists because of impact Gothic had on the RPG industry. Gothic 1 literally revolutionized the RPG genre which had no clear direction. No game did what Gothic did or had gameplay like it. Every single RPG we have these days where you run around with an action bar, health bars, mana bars, etc in third person? Literally Gothic. The standard world most people take for granted today like worlds feeling alive, NPCs having routes, living their lives, dy and night cycles, factions, and player defined progression was literally INVENTED by Gothic 1.RPG's as they are today and for the past 25 years would not exist if it wasn't for the cultral impact Gothic 1 had on the world. So while yes, I am glazing it, it deserves its praise as being the literal pioneer in RPG genre history.Development for Oblivion literally started in 2001 after Gothic was released and took 5 years to make, and Todd made the game because he felt wanted to address player fustration at the lack of hand holding in RPGS, which is why Oblivion has quest markers, fast travels, and all that shit.
>>740896263Nah.Source: G3 a shit
>>740896347>Oblivion exists because of impact Gothic had on the RPG industryOblivion has no design influence from gothic. I've never heard Bethesda devs talk about it and I cannot spot any>Gothic 1 literally revolutionized the RPG genre which had no clear direction. Completely incorrect. Gothic 1 didn't even sell enough to cover its own costs. They broke even with everything after Gothic 2. Gothic 1 was a local oddity confined to eastern and central europe. This is 2001-2006, nobody was as informed as they are today>Every single RPG we have these days where you run around with an action bar, health bars, mana bars, etc in third person? Literally Gothic. Okay you're shitposting, I am not spending any more time on this
>>740896357What do you mean? Does G3 state that? I think what I mentioned is how the explain the Sleeper in G2.In G1 itself he's just a powerful arch demon, because the cosmology of the world is not particularly fleshed out.
Just picked up the beasts of khorinis 5 book which cavalorn wants me to skin a frost shadowbeast, of which I already fucking killed in ch3 and it didn't respawn. Thanks.
is there a peaceful way to get rid of Mud? I heard you can beat him up by taking him outside but that doesn't look like the intended way unless I'm wrong
I love beating the shit out of everyone for loot and xp.
>>740896614>In G1 itself he's just a powerful arch demonIt's a creature from beyond this reality. It contacted the orcs, did a bit of trolling after getting summoned, and then contacted the humans much later.What exactly it is or isn't doesn't really matter. What matters is that it doesn't belong and needs to be sent back (which doesn't really fit with the chosen of deity stuff).Also I'm pretty sure it would be a "she" and not a he.
>>740896910I beat him right in front of everyone in the Old camp, no one batted an eye
>>740896910Just beat him up and he'll start crying and go back to his shitshack
>>740896910>that doesn't look like the intended wayBeating up people is the intended Gothic way of solving problems.If it doesn't work then the devs did a woopsie and got their gay storytelling in the way of more beatings.
>>740897062>beat himnot very peaceful, is it? not sure why'd you want a peaceful solution with that sheepfucker tho
>>740896213why is it hilarious?were they right or wrong?
You know for a game about prison there's a lack of rape
>>740897169isn't fucking sheep a requirement for joining the fire mages
>>740897224Mods will fix it
>>740897224Quintessential american post
Is pickpocketing a useful skill or is it largely a meme?
>>740897224you, the player, get raped quite frequently by the game
>>740897224>he thought he was actually "knocking them out and taking their items"HAHA
>>740897318the best pickpocketing is using a club
>>740897169mhm, it seems like the perfect punching bag and the devs want you to present your knuckles to his nosebut I guess you can bring him along and leave him to the swamp raptors and bloodflies
>>740896548You really sound like a hater, it must be a miserable existence to deny reality.
>>740897224Theres probably so few women cause the ones that weren't made the cocksocks of the dudes in charge were more than likely raped to death by bandits.
>>740897451>he didn't find the Rape Bandits Camp
Can it run on potatoes
>>740896347Literally all true.
>>740897552There's plenty of Gothic DNA in successful and great games.There's no need to WEWUZ it into a parody
>beat up lefty on first try>beat up shrike on first try>killed dam lurker on first try>a single fucking wolf still takes at least 5 tries
>>740897695Honestly I rather fight a dude 5 times than a wolf once. Wolves are fucking HUGE.
god, all the vendors are so fucking broke. I need to offload my shit.
>>740897451The valley was already a prision colony before the barrier was created. There's really no good reason why there should be any women in the barrier aside from the ones Rhobar sends in.I do wonder about men, though. Like there could have been hunters around to get some meat for the royal warders that just got locked into the barrier by sheer bad luck. The dude that gives you the tame scavenger kinda had that vibe to me.
>>740897695>>740897805>get a mace>press Q when they start jumping on you>win
>>740896910Listen to all his dialogue. I read that it's something around 27 lines.
>>740897867adopting the german w destroyed the polish language
>>740897695wolves are kinda bullshit, and the more powerful versions like bloodhounds and tundra wolves border on complete bullshit
>>740898174yea totally what?
Torches you throw in the ground are persistent right? I am sort of making myself a series of visual markers in my exploration.
saw this image posted the other day. any mods yet that fix it? thx
>>740898386just use V niggeryou don't even have the problem that germans imposed on themselves of pronouncing V as Fno other slav languages does this either
they made the mobs respawn?!
>>740898442They extinguish after a period of time.
>>740898483don't you ever get bored of shitposting with the same bait?
>>740898565first time on this website, i guess you could call me a tourist
how much LP does it cost to train to 6th circle?
The npcs barely give a shit about you opening chests and robbing them blind. Picked the chest right next to Y'Berion while he and his lackey just stood and watched.
>kill so many scavengers people doubt so many could be killed in so little timeand i'll fucking keep on killing
>>740895864>>740895864Ah shit is it a common issue then? Shit is pissing me off, makes me paranoid to open the map.If it happens again i'll try what you said but I swear I tried that before
>>740897192Insanely wrong.The game is literally nothing like Witcher 3
>Hey Shadow, beat our newest Templar to prove yourself worthy of fighting the Minecrawlers>wreck him so hard the entire camp aggros on meWhy are the dudeweedayylmao bros so fucking BETA in this game. Literally had to switch to a shitty mace just so I didn't overkill him or whatever the fuck triggered the camp to think I murdered him
>>740899445The Witcher exists because they were inspired by Gothic, this is a well known fact. Slav respects Slav.
Any maces as strong as Scar's sword? Him and Arlo were in the throne room alone so I beat both their asses and got some free loot
getting real fucking tired of black goblins throwing rocks at my head
>>740899769>Any maces as strong as Scar's sword?Maces are the best weapon cause pressing Q does an uppercut that literally stuns anything. If you combo things right, you can stunlock any enemy to death forever.
>>740899991True, I like its moveset. I wanted to get a good mace and go reintroduce myself to the lich faggot in that tower. I'm planning to stop at the 70 STR and Master 1h that I have, and pump mana now
Gothic's the sort of games I have no qualms about cheesing with the amount of bullshit they throw at you
>>740900835see>>740900927
I started game, went to first town (old mining camp?). Talked a priest looking dude on rags and he takes me to templar or someshit camp where we walked for like 10 minutes. Wtf is going on? Did i dungoofed or its intended? Also performance is dogshit and optimization is nonexistent.
idaf
>>740901274Yeah, that's normal. You have to do quests in all three camps for chapter 1,
>>740901479>dude let me in, i'm a fairy
>>740900835>>740901479Shadowbeasts are weak to ice. Just use 3 ice bolt scrolls and they'll freeze in place for 10 seconds, letting you wail on them.
>>740900835
>>740901274You will join 1 of 3 camps. Swamp Camp is one of them. Just explore, talk to people, and the ones you like the most join them.
>>740901957not sure why i replied to that guy but i guess i have to post a stuck wolf pic now
>>740902056To animals solid objects are a suggestion.
>>740899445Try Witcha 1
>>740901479>OI, DO YOU HAVE A LOINCENSE FOR THAT, MATE?>>740901274>Also performance is dogshit and optimization is nonexistent.Hear hear
don't open
>be popping light scrolls at every turn while exploring the temple>suddenly out of mana for the second time>burn a few more joints>climb some stairs>find pic relatedIs that just the wind or is it some furious vexation? He killed me twice on a x1 before I fire bolted his ass.
>>740879697>ITS NOT A THING IN DRAGONS DOGMADD2 would be infinitely better if you getting downed meant an enemy just did a finisher and not you crawled on your hands and knees for a fucking millennium.
>>740901274There will be another escort who will take you to the third camp. Without these almost everything would wreck you. Good starter xp too.
>>740879906i am doing a bow into mage build, 30 points into dex for 40 dex, using 3 dex potions or one of those +2 STR and DEX (from the 2 zombies cave) and 1 dex potion, then use the telekinesis scroll from the shipwrecks chest and climb the wall to get the wolfshredder bow. you can damage chapter 3 enemies with only 40 lp and it's enough to carry you until you become a fire mage at the start of chapter 3.
I've been avoiding the new camp scumbags for like 10hrs of gameplay but seems I really should head over there if I ever want to leave chapter 1.
>>740878591They should have put 2pac into the colony instead of japan. He was just trapped all the time. *pffffffffffffff* Picture him casting.
>>740903595It's the "shortest" camp in terms of quests. Get the weed from Baal Isidro, sell it and go back to Lares, then do the two missions for the Rice King and that's it.
>>740902321Manliest camp under the barrier.
>>740903619you know, I was looking forward to that game because I love Judgment, but it's clear that Nagoshi leaving was a disaster for us, the fans. I don't even care about the AI, or the ethics, I just care that it's the corniest shit in the world, man.
>>740902173Completed the Witcher 1, nothing like Gothic too>>740899551They can be inspired all they want, the design philosophies are entirely different.The amount of Witcher fanboys I saw drawing parallels to these games only to play it and see no similarities at all besides what, 3rd person male character with sword combat?>can go around killing/fucking over who I want as a character named "Hero" who you can effectively shape the way you want them to be (even their back story whenever you get asked why you got thrown into prison)>game starts you off as a literal bum who can barely stomp out meatbugs>entire premise is siding with a faction to effectively save yourself (literally prison rules) contrasted to>pre defined monster slayer capable of killing great beasts in the opening hoursThey're nothing alike.
>>740902949the game does have a smell system, yes. it's based on wind direction. you can read about it in the glossary. If the wind blew past you toward that orc he was alerted by the smell of manflesh and came to investigate. standing near or in a body of water masks your smell.
This shit might be the ugliest UE5 game I've seen yet
>>740884205they kept the good progression in tact but as an og fan i fkn hate how this game looks
>>740906392Why are you so lonely?
>>740906392higher than they gave the original, the fucking casuals LOL
>>740906392lol, how passive aggressive
So just how many people can you massacre in a camp? Asking for a friend.
why do they call all the miners diggers in this game? I have real digger fatigue
Can i get a qrd on gothic? Looks pretty dope, but WHY?
>>740908817look just smoke and get closer to god
>>740907401Everyone. The big payoff for all your struggles is when you reach the point where you're strong enough to walk through a camp with a firestorm spell going off and watching all the XP notifications
Ok so this ring combo can't be balanced in the early game (chapter 2)?How is the -10 edge + -10 blunt calculated?I literally stumbled on it by accident>level up my strength/dex because i've pretty much gotten all the other skills (besides master bow and master smithing or any pickpocketing garbage) >realized I didn't need my +4 dex +4 str ring to wield my weapons>have two Rings of Stone or whatever they're called (-10 Edge and -10 blunt)>go from actually having to dodge/parry minecrawlers to fucking face rolling entire groups of them and barely taking damage>even facerolled the queenIs this bugged or some shit?Just tested it now by running through the entire New Camp and I triggered some off screen one hit kill because I was murdering everyone
>>740880013I found using these materials to craft scrolls and sell those to be pretty lucrative as long as you go to mage vendors.
>>740909508yeah, you can get an amulet too, with 15/15 and a ore skin ring for 15/15, then add one of the 10/10 rings and digger armor and you have 50/50 in chapter 1. this game is about discovery and from being the conquered to becoming the conqueror
>>740909648and then if you max out the chapter 2 armor...>>740909608still not worth it, the good hunting stuff you get for free or from the book quests
>>740909648What amulet is it? When you say can be found. Can it be found naturally or is it one of those things where it's literally running through the orc zone to get it. >this game is about discovery and from being the conquered to becoming the conquerorOh I ain't doubting that nor am I even complaining. I love the fact that I've hit such a noticeable powerspike.I remember clearing the black goblin dungeon in chapter 1 and struggling like shit, leading them to the entrance to 1v1 them because it's too easy to get raped in there from all angles. Now i'm just bum rushing whatever I see and doing fine and it feels great (Gothic difficulty mind you, think there's one higher)
>>740909757>and then if you max out the chapter 2 armor...I think i've maxed it out? I got pretty rich in chapter 1 by just scamming the weed bros and the first upgrades I bought when I got the shadow armor were the max tiers. Guessing that paired with my two rings makes me pretty overtuned for the chapter i'm on. Now I just want some fucking greatswords already, I hear they're like late game shit or something
>>740909804shipwreck with the fire lizards, the boat on the beach. you can lockpick the door or use wall climbing to get to a cave with a young troll and some goblins, the key for the chest is there. there is also a recipe for a alcohol based mana potion in the captain's cabin on the ship.>Can it be found naturally or is it one of those things where it's literally running through the orc zone to get it.you can't really hurt the fire lizards at this point, but you can just avoid them.
>>740910000NTA but nice quads. I'll be attempting that soon
cute
Yes, it's night and I'm stuck here.
I'm so happy, i think i finally found a good balance in visuals so it doesn't look desaturated, too bright or too dark
>>740910000there is a young troll near the shipwreck? I have to go back to see I guess
Why does Gomez look like MrBean tho
would i like this game?what kind of a person would like this game? i need to kown before i buy
They did a nice job with the forest
>>740908643digger is like "bro" in german
>>740911842eurojank nostalgics. There's a reason the artwork/screenshots tab on Steam Discussions for the game is full of Europeans.
>>740890692there's like 5 spawns in the world you can get in chapter 1 or 2 vendors sell it in chapter 4+
>>740911842I'm probably a good person to answer because I never played the originals so had no nostalgia.>You're literally a nobody. Like factually. You can barely swing a weapon at the start of the game and you'll find yourself avoiding 99% of enemies>you'll be lost, not really knowing what to do or how to complete quests because most quest givers unironically tell you "You'll figure it out" when you ask them "How do I do that" or "Where do I find [insert]">You get treated like absolute dirt>You will get scammed/trickedThe amount of weird player pride you feel over your character is unmatched. Think that Elden Ring boss that took you ages to kill, but extend that "Holy fuck I did it" feeling and times it by 10 because instead of that boss fight kicking your ass for maybe 20 minutes or so, this game is kicking your ass for hours at a time, days even if you have a job like me and when you finally start fighting it back, it just feels good man.You kinda just have to play it and commit to find out if it's for you. Not really a game you can gauge whether or not you'll like it by some anons on here. I recommend pirating it to see.Also, PSA, it's unreal slop and runs like shit even on my 4090 PC. Stuttery mess
>>740908643It's the literal translation of their name in German (Buddler), I guess it's supposed to be some kind of prison colony slang and also differentiates them from miners outside of the barrier who just do it as a job, while inside the barrier it's more of a social class.
Still cannot decide which camp should I join
>>740913283Just read the builds more aligned with each camp, or that match whatever story you are building for your character. For example, I was going to do with swamp because I felt everyone else was too much of an asshole, but I did some major killing in the mines for a nefarious purpose and decided to go chaotic neutral, so I'm going full mage before enacting a rampage on Old and New Camp.
stuck in temple of sleeper, the place with the blood pools I need one of those pedestal things that I can rotate but I can't find one anywhere
>>740913971nvm, had to rotate the thingers to fill up the big blood cannisters first
>>740906392The first witcher IS where the series peaked.
mana costs aren't as high in this game as G2 right? I got lockpicking 1, climbing, 4lp into skins/teeth etc, master 1 hand, and 70-75 str, and am wondering if I have enough LP left to get magic
>ch 2 I am strong enough to walk into anyone's room at night, beat them, take all their shit, and their chestshaha well the vendor limit was put in for a reason but it still doesn't slow you down from immense riches for long and I assume the higher chapters have more gold on merchants, because the ones with 30 in ch 1 now have 200 ish
>>740914393They have higher gold, the problem is having variety of stuff to sell them before value tanks too much. Like if you just sold one person all your morningstars, they'd tank the value by 3rd or 4th sell. I especially hate seeing magic vendors with a ton of money since I don't have much in way of runes/accessories to sell them to empty their gold. Not that it matters since I'm sitting on 20k+ ore but I'm autistic about hoarding money
>>740914334you need 140 LP for all 6 circles of magic so it might be too late for you to be a pure magician. first few circles of magic are cheap if you wanna pivot for hybrid stuff.
>>740914501the magic vendors buy my monster parts so I at least feel it wasn't a total waste
>>7409145266 is at the end of the game iirc so I can skip that one I think
>>740911974thats the moist generic shit ive seen dawg
>>740914334I think Scar's weapon is more than enough melee for the entire game, and you don't need past 3-4 circles to kill shit. Firestorm is nice, but there's good stuff in 3-4 too.
>>740881318>>740888939>>740887684>>740881427They fuck animals, not men. They're not gay
>>740883000>too lazy to spoilerCtrl+s makes spoiler tags automatically
>>740914778>Scar's weaponelaborate plz
>>740915903beat up scar, pick up an 85 damage 1 hander
I'm lvl 29 making my way through the sleeper temple. Debating on whether or not to dabble in spells or just get dex and archery. I'm capped strength with max 1 hander and 2 hander already and 70 spare points so far.
>>740916036doesnt ring a bell, where can i find him?
>>740916136He's hanging out in the old camp castle near gomez. Just go in while they're all sleeping and shank him in his room.
>>740916162neato, thanks anon
>>740916162I'd sooner use the Drake Sword than some cheesy minmax filth, which is to say I will never do either.
>>740888259>if you never bust a nut inside a woman you turn crazyThat's probably not true, although I assume you know something about it
>>740916246you would have to be retarded to not figure it out eventually, I beat up Cor Kalom and got a 75 damage one and then using my BIG BRAIN I figured out if I beat up named people I get cool stuff
Where can I find a powerful bow without buying from filthy vendors? Best bow I have is oak bow at 40 dex but my best crossbow is way stronger at 80 dex req.
>>740878591Woke status?
>>740916790Very - the swamp hippies don't rape their women like Gomez does
Goofy unc aah game
>>740913176hmm i think i'll give it a try then. i like when games don't handhold and kick my shit in as long as it's ultimately fair once i work it all out
yes
I'm at a dead end in the sleeper temple with a force field door that I can interact with but can't do anything yet. Do they seriously expect me to go back to Xardas with the sword I found and then walk all the way through this fucking big ass temple again?
>>740913176Runs smooth on my 4080with DLSS
>>740918441My 3060 was getting real fucking hot until I activated that. At least I had like 2 crashes total
new camp thread where
>>740878591here's some ass. I should upload the rest of my screenshot
>>740919447water mages unite
>>740918410you have a teleport stone, retard
>>740915403Better keep my scavenger away from these freaks
>>740919749I haven't tried it yet, but can it be killed?
>>740919749>>740919775does it just get knocked out like other npcs you can't kill?
>>740919775I don't think so. I jumped from a very high altitude and died but the scavenger lived. I also died to some beasts but all my scavenger did was just walk along them. No NPC seems bothered by the existence of the scavenger, it purely exists for convenience (and that's a good thing, I don't want any more suffering)
>>740919838so it's like the dark brotherhood horse from skyrim?
>>740878591I remember playing Gothic 2 as a kid and it never really clicked with me.Sell me on Gothic 1
>>740919885>>740919885>>740919885
>>740919838I was kind of bummed out that you can only ride a scavenger. I wanted to ride a shadow beast
>>740919871It's just invincible. I didn't try shooting arrows directly at it.You can pet it, but it serves no purpose.
