You guys think it's outsourced? The trailer logo looks a bit lazy, the Link model is very Nintendo-untypical and the Star Fox remake is made by some randums bums tooIf it's mostly outsourced, I will 100% skip it. I buy Nintendo games because they are made by Nintendo, not random people
is there a difference? nintendo already lost almost all their talent, dead, old, old and retired
>>740881438Hope: it's not shitfear: it's shit
Just played through the original and it's still goated. One of the most gracefully aging 90s 3D games (if you can get used to the fps or play the PC port) and the N64 aesthetic is such a defining aspect of it. Another unnecessary remake imo.
I've seen Retro Studios mentioned. Wouldn't shock me since they know how to design action adventures and worked on a canceled Zelda project before. The thought of a Western studio making an Ocarina remake is just disgusting and I can't imagine they understand the weird Zelda essence, though.
>>740881438hope: no DEI shitfears: DEI shit
>>740881438Retro made prime 1 2 and 3 and they are some of the best of what nintendo offered back then.
>>740881438Hope: zelda but in eldenring style and combat with ultra hardcore boss fightFear: another zelda kiddyslop
I wonder why they showed almost nothing when the game is supposed to come out this year. I know there will be another direct but they don't usually announce their own games like this. I wonder if they are afraid of the reaction to how it looks.
>>740882431Ugh, so it is Retro huh?>back then.Yeah 20 years ago. They lost most of their talent and Metroid Prime 4 is a 70% game. I wouldn't mind a new Zelda spinoff from a Western studio but OoT is a through and through Japanese game and every pixel oozes that Japanese charm, it makes no sense.
>>740882932I dont want them to chuck it to a group who will fuck it up either. But deep down...
Hopes: the girls are hotFears: the girls are not hot
>>740883003because they literally just had to drop a slide with a back background and white arial text that reads "oot remake 2026" and the "Content Creators" will do the rest of the marketing for them
>>740881816This, still good you normies/Thread
>>740881816>One of the most gracefully aging 90s 3D gameslolOoTfags are so funny, they really like sniffing their owns farts
>>740881438I hope they make the Bombchu Bowling Alley lady even cuter in the remake
Posting it early in the thread.https://files.catbox.moe/732faw.zip (OOT)https://files.catbox.moe/pbes2e.zip (MM 2ship)https://files.catbox.moe/0bl8bv.zip (MM Recomp)
>>740883003 Because they want to milk the reveal for the rest of the year, drip feeding us info every month or so.
>>740883254Ocarina of Time doesn't need marketing
>>740883003This is what pre-release is like for Zelda games now. Be sure to thank TOTK for being nothing but vagueness and murals until the year it was set to come out.
Now that she has a second chance she'll do things differently and not hurt him
>>740883003They haven't shown because of one thing:1. Sales.Once they show how the game looks there will be a pre-order so they get free money from impulsive consumers
>>740883827Hopefully she lets him stay long enough to let him breed every woman in Hyrule before zapping him into the MMverse.
>>740884025Why would she want her husband to do that?
>>740881438OOT is a important stepping stone in 3D gaming, and directly inspiring all other 3D 3rd person adventure games that came after, like kingdom hears, dark souls, monster hunter, fable, darksiders and more. It is a important game to play if you want to know what a 3d game fundamentaly is, and how the switch to 3D affected gameplay. The game is more impressive in its n64 format, than what a remake would be. The secret is that it is not the game nintendo wanted to make, and the game is a product of the hardware limitations of the n64, designed around what they could actually make. I would rather they just make a new game
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>>740881438>HopesIt retains the OoT formula>DreamsIt reinvigorates the love for the OoT formula>FearsIt isn't at all like the OG game and it gets popular anyway
>>740883495Toxotranny not even brave enough to avatarfag with a real cat image with that post.
>>740881816I just reached the part where Link gets crystal'd into being an adult but can't figure where to go next?I already checked the lake & death mountain but there's nothing there & the door was blocked?
>>740884231It'll be open world do dungeons in any order climb and swim with a stamina meter breakable weapons and a girl boss Sheik
inb4 his soul will be erased and with him the entire path up to the sleepless waterfalls with all the little minutiae that secretly make oot so good
>>740884445He has big dick energy. He's fucking the bombchu bowling girl
>>740881438Do you think they are gonna add/change lore?I bet theyll add some weolird plot point about why the timeline split in 3.
>>740884108Because Zelda is a cuck.>lets ganondorf get the triforce>lets impa run off and die in the shadow realm>lets bongo bongo ragdoll herself and link>lets ganondorf capture her by dispelling sheik in like one mile away from his castle>grants herself the ultimate cucking by erasing link from her world, dooming hyrule to eventually be drownedThe Hero's bloodline must be spread far and wide to keep Hyrule safe from Ganon's return. For the good of the kingdom, Zelda will sit in the chair.
>tfw it will have less love for detail than the N64 game
>>740884545Time janies
>>740884578t. Malonfag
There are a few things a good remake could expand on>a bit more Sheik focus, ideally playable bits>taking inspiration from the manga (sadly doesn't look like they do that)>more about Ganondorf and a bit more politics and intrigue>maybe giving Phantom Ganon personality and finally confirming that Phantom Ganon = Ganondorf's Fi/Ghirahim>more personality for Master Sword>showing the sages fight alongside you (that's implied in the original game but you don't see it)>maybe some more backstory (there is that German manga focusing on Link's parents, could make them playable too)>obviously a bigger world and filled with more stuff and more enemies (HIGH difficulty)>more fun Ocarina uses and more complex time travel (for example the idea with the cubes in OoT that wasn't really explored, maybe even traveling to additional periods)But ofc I expect the bare minimum
>>740884578>Because Zelda is a cuck.Actually Link and Zelda aren't really shipped in most games. They look like siblings and I think Nintendo was mostly going for a separated siblings angle, one growing up rich and one as a poor bum. The graveyard ghosts in OoT tell you that you remind them of Zelda.But yeah then the Skyward Sword anime hack happened.
>>740881438My hopes are pretty much still the same >>740613189I liked the new visuals, Korok's tunic is great lorewise, I want to see more and hopefully how Hyrule Field looks and plays as that was one of the worst parts of Ocarina of Time to meMy biggest fear is that Nintendo is only overhauling the graphics And very few gameplay aspects. I think we can pretty much expect the QoL from the 3DS remaster at least.I doubt they'll get rid of Navi but it would be great otherwise. It would also show how far Nintendo is willing to change Ocarina of Time.
>>740884545Sages will have secret stones and Rauru is gonna be a fucking alien
Malonfag putting in overtime
>>740884836>we could've gotten this>instead we literally get HIRE HIM Unreal Engine slop>they probably actually hired HIM
>>740881438hopefully it's fully open worldafraid it's going to be a redundant 1:1 shit
>>740884545OOTR will go the way of FF7R.Part 1 will be Ocarina of Time, but it will end with Link losing to Ganon in a cutscene because the people in charge of modern Zelda love making Link a pathetic jobber. Ganon will then move on to Zelda, and he will assemble the full Triforce.Part 2 will be the Imprisoning War, allowing Ocarina of Time to fulfill its original purpose at long last, and introduce a proper Dark World - THE Dark World at that - in a 3D Zelda for the first time.
>>740885029>Actually Link and Zelda aren't really shipped in most games.especially in twilight princess where link has ilia and midna while zelda feels like a stranger
>>740881438Just don't make it open world slop. Its already a 10/10 on that alone
>>740885318>fishing as young linkI thought you could only do that as adult link?
>>740885636just replaying skyward sword and it bothers me that you only have one item shortcut while in oot you had 3. and then botw didn't even bother with itemsthough ss is pretty cool anyway, i can appreciate it a lot more after botw. it's very linear but at this point i'm tired of open world slop
>>740884302Aren't you supposed to check the place you came from first?
>>740881438>You guys think it's outsourced?Nintendo would be officially dead to me. I already found it a bit weird and soulless how Koizumi didn't have a single word to say about it, literally the co-creator of OoT lol
Imagine the new fishing pond.
>>740885910>Koizumi, literally the co-creator of OoTFIVE DIRECTORS
>>740884215What does this mean?
>>740883657Honestly they just need this aesthetic and a proper forest and high difficulty and it's the next GOAT, even if I don't think a Nintendo game can ever get a 99% Metacritic score again with all the fanboy and hater magazines today
>>740881438idk, it looks and sounds amazing, hopefully the whole game is voice acted like that
>>740883495It's just the truth? There is a reason they essentially released the exact same game on the 3DS and it became the highest rated 3DS game despite fucking it up in a lot of waysOoT haters are weird. It's like hating sex or steak
>>740886456i hope the remake leans into realism and the horror and gore aspect a lot more. already seeing tendies cry about how realistic it looks but we got so many toon zeldas why not a more 'mature' one again?
>>740881438I wonder if they're going to bring back climbing everything, was a really good aspect of Botw.
>>740886625NO this fucking sucks. It's why BotW's overworld feels like it has almost no structure and you can just bruteforce everything at the cost of being bored
>>740886556miyamoto loves realism in zelda. i think theyre going for a dark fantasy feel. kind of like that stupid bramble game but more cinematic and without looking so cheaply made
>>740881438I wonder how they will handle sprinting with the rolling
I want the fairy ocarina to be a little wooden pendant Saria carved that Saria and Link visibly wear on their models.
>>740884545Things that could lead up to a new game/expansion of OoTThe hero of time wasn't a name made up for link after his adventure, it comes from a sheikah legend that spoke of the hero of time. TotK shows the master sword having time powers but it actually always had them because the sword is the one who chooses who the hero of time will be. Zelda having time powers was also first seen in OoT and not TotK because she was having prophetic dreams about meeting Link, and Link actually also had a prophetic dream.>prophetic dreams that begin the adventure>zelda feeling as if link's name is familiar>the legend of the hero of time already existing>the master sword being the one who decides who will be the hero of time>navi randomly leaving after the adventure is done with no explanation or resolution even in the 3 OoT sequelsIf there's an expanded story or future game then it could be about how there was even a legend in the first place and it's probably going to be a bootstrap paradox where link travelled to the past and created his own legend, or it could be a zelda expansion story where she creates it, could be a Sheik story. The triforce blinking on sleeping Link could be a connected to time travel, at the end of the game zelda sends back link at the moment his journey begins, which means he always had the triforce with him but couldn't get it because he hadn't completed his journey to prove himself.TLDR: the legend of the hero of time existed before OoT begins, the game about time travel. They could make a game explaining this.
>>740881816
I want for them to revamp the Ganondorf fight so it's more like the promotional image where it looks like he's trying to punch Link's skull off, and include a fight sequence like that one promotional image of Link and Sheik on a rock surrounded by enemies. There's a lot of stuff that was hypothetical at the time but impossible due to technological constraints at the time I'd love to see them fully implement.
>>740884545I'd like it if the ending continued past the scene where Link tells Zelda he's leaving and instead ends on him riding epona off into the fog of the forest, tying directly into Majora's Mask.
>>740881438I kind of miss automatic jumping, hopefully they keep that along with the shrines or whatever they add.
about time
>>740881438
>>740887506he doesnt have boots. he has ankle shoes, kind of like this. the little drawing of sleeping link is so accurate to the design of his clothing that its clear he has SHOES this time, not boots
>>740882236Wasn't the Twilight Princess remake Western?
The tech demo looked too good for its time and especially Wii U. No excuses now though.
A full remake of OoT doesn't sound like something they'd outsource unless it was VERY SPECIFICALLY a team they wanted to train up before they were allowed to do a "serious" game, like Grezzo porting and remastering the two N64 games (didn't pan out, they did the LA remakes after) or Samus Returns devs doing Metroid Dread after that
Sexy great fairy again. The fucking whales in botw was grotesque
>>740881438I wonder how the chemisty system is going to come into play. They've been working toward that since the original Ocarina of Time, so no doubt it will be in the game. However there's no way there's sheika runes or zonai abilities, so it makes me curious.
>>740887805BBW Great Fairies were a gift from God
>>740887891Aonuma...
Finally a Zelda where adult Link isn't a manlet twink I hope
>>740887891big black woman?
>>740887226
>>740881438I'm almost certain it's in-house, or at least primarily in-house. They remastered Wind Waker (and oversaw the remaster of TP) as a HD development practice run for Zelda U (BotW), it's more than likely that this OoT remake is part of their preparations for a brand new game as well.Personally, I think this remake could be an experimental reimagining as well - I think they'll unironically adjust OoT's design to be (partially) open world and less linear. The zelda team are well aware of the backlash from Aonuma's statement that the BotW formula will be the series' future, so I believe this will be their attempt to merge OoT's design with BotW's design.
>>740881816This is exactly why I want the remake to be a complete reimagining FF7 style. Go completely ham, change the plot, change dungeons, change everything.Being mostly 1:1 would be so fucking boring, only retards would want that.
can't replicate this magic back then on a crt. either you were there or not
>>740884302Check the graveyard area first. You actually don't have to do things in that order, but most people go there and then to the forest.
I'd like to see the Tunics be whole different outfits and not just recolors.
wonder how many random quirks and tricks they keep
>>740888483
>>740888334Feels to me like the Young Link changes means we're getting that
>>740886456>It's just the truth?Anon... please play more games or research a bit more before you dropping these statementsDreamcast released in the same year as OoT and nearly all 3D Dreamcast games mog the fuck out of Ocarina of Time.Pic related came out a year before Ocarina.Ocarina of time visuals aged horribly just like almost every N64 game
>>740884302talk to NPCs, and the in game characters as well
I hope they bring back Skyward Sword's crafting/upgrading and augments and maybe something that leans even more into "builds". Honestly worked great and made revisiting locations more fun. Dunno why BotW dropped that mostlyAlso this beetle item was dope
>>740887731People keep saying that but there's no proof other than a lack of detail. One of them goes way past his ankle like a boot and the other is in-between. I think it's still likely to be a boot and it's just heavily stylized, just like the chest area doesn't match exactly to how the model actually looks in bed.
>>740888801>Anon... please play more games or research a bit more before you dropping these statementsI literally played every game in existence down to niche shit that you don't even know>Dreamcast released in the same year as OoT and nearly all 3D Dreamcast games mog the fuck out of Ocarina of Time.Oh you are mentally disabled>Ocarina of time visuals aged horribly just like almost every N64 gameNo one is talking about visuals and its visuals are good. People love the PS1 and N64 aesthetic which is why it made a huge comeback with tons of popular indie games This is the moment where I would block you on Twitter because you are absolutely positively low-IQ. Definitely won't read your reply to this so have fun wating your time
>>740888801>>740886456IMHO, Animal Crossings is one of the few N64 titles that didn't age like milk
>>740889058>you are absolutely positively low-IQthat's most sega fanboys and sonic fags
>>740883550dolphin porn
>fun thread>retro console war troon shows up>immediately turns to shit
FOCUS L, HIT THE BOSS IN THE WEAKPOINT FOR MAXIMUM DAMAGE
>>740889412based, i miss when games were gamey like that
>>740888985>Yamcha poseGame is alraaedy cursed
>>740881438The trailer is WAY better in Japanese. The English one sounds way too patronizing and like some guy reading a Christmas storyFuck dubs in Zelda but especially English dubs
>>740885385Anon they're reusing BotW's map for the third time (4th if you count MKW), for sure.
>>740885219No one can explain why this is a bad thing.
>>740889343it's always sega fags who still have to process sega going multi 25 years later
>>740886870Miyamoto is senile.
>>740889802If you need it explained to you why this looks shit then you are likely a dumb normie philistine. As a hint though it's very easy to make and things that are very easy to make are rarely truly great. Negative art direction
>>740888985>just like the chest area doesn't match exactly to how the model actually looks in bedthe chest area matches exactly. the hat even has the swirl pattern. the coat has the swirl pattern. THOSE sizes and shapes are accurate. there is less than zero reason to assume JUST the boots are heavily stylized but nothing else is. he has shoes dude. they are very clearly making a departure from past outfits, and you can see that. it shouldnt be hard to accept he's got little leather shoes that are more accurate to a little medieval kid
Hope it's not realistic nightmare fuel like fox, but rather an HD-2D demake. Of course that won't happen.
>>740889343>>740889824I'm not even a segafag. I never owned a sega console, my only console has been a snes. I just disagree that Ocarina of Time is a good looking 3D game
>>740889976"""Fans""" need to be euthanized.
>>740886556>An M rated ZeldaNot in Shiggy, Aonuma and Fujibayashi's lifetime.Not even a Zelda spinoff would be rated M.
>>740888220So you want a new Zelda game titled OoT? Got it
>>740884545They already showed the shitty Skyward Sword Temple of Time in the trailer
>>740889976>Can't explain why it's bad>Just tosses insultsPoint proven.
>>740890005Yeah, he’s probably going to be more dressed like the other kokiri and his adult outfit will be a more traditional tunic
>>740884836Please God keep Skyward Sword away from OoT
>>740890054>kneejerk reaction is muh dreamcast>i'm not even a sega fag>oot looks bad, proof: this angle you never see the game fromactual soulles autist
what's the point of it all, they are going to clothe ruto, they will hide the kokiri tits under leather, they will make malon brown and flat, they will fill castle town and kakariko with niggers, they will remove the dungeon under kakariko, they will give sheik loose clothing, they will remove link's muscles, they will turn rauru into a goat, they will voice ganondorf by matthew mercer, they will give navi a body, they will censor the gay carpenters, they will censor nabooru wanting to fuck link
>IT'S BAD BECAUSE...I-IT JUST IS, OKAY?!
>>740890481I hope the remake captures this magic and the art style won't be shit.
>>740887743and the knockout city devs doing star fox
>>740890054Vibrant colors and amazing textures for its era, literally better than most vasline textures in 6th gen. No idea what your point is.
>>740890613>give developer of dead turd game one of your most beloeved ipsi remember when nintendo was criticized for being too protective over their ipswtf happened
Why do we say they'll give Navi a body, when none of the remasters or spin offs did that?
>>740890481Looks better than BotW sometimes kek
>>740890772It's grooming, but unironically.
No reason to care about this remake until they confirm it's developed in-house. Might very well be just another cash grab made by nonames.
>>740890817Because I just think it'd be neat
>>740883827>fix fictionNah, get fucked.
>>740890706>>740890481Same year as OoT btw
>>740891145It's most likely MS. The job posting for them got taken down in December last year, which lines up with this remake, and the time it became rumored.
>>740881438Is Ocarina of Time the midwit's best game of all time?
>>740890242>shows picture of boots>>740890005Yes Anon, the depiction of the clothes are simplified there along with his hands, ears, hair, etc. You could very well be right, but saying "look at those brown tube socks. He is wearing Nikes!" is just speculation that isn't backed up by evidence when the brown there on one foot goes up just as high as his old boots as seen >>740886456
>>740885029I don't think they were going for a sibling angle. There's Zelda II and the Zelda Cartoon as precedents at the very least
>>740881816Agree. I hate how they only remake the best games that are already good. They should remake games that were unfinished or held back by very specific flaws, but of course there is less money to make with themI want remakes for games like Pokemon Colosseum or Goemon
>>740890242Jesus Christ I fucking hate the kokiri they’re so fucking ugly, I’m glad they went extinct in the Botw era.
>>740892093I'd argue the actual mark of being a midwit, a tard even, is thinking at all that playing videogames is meant to be some kind of intellectual endeavor
>>740885219holy shit this picture NINTENDO
>>740893078Can't wait for the normalfags to claim they always loved the Kokiri more than the Koroks and screech for them to come back.The nine years of forced BOTW shitposting will be your own undoing.
>>740892338you are literally retarded
>>740892937A game Miyamoto just said he doesn't even consider mainline and the cartoon? Okay
>>740893068quinted games should be remade
So are people basing the idea that it's going to be a different game than the orginal based on the fact it said "reborn" in the trailer description?
>>740893213Ankle shoes don't go halfway up your calves.
>>740893580Mostly because of the redesigned tunic, the triforce, and the fact that they didn't show gameplay
>>740882335If they do this, I won’t play it. Simple as.
>>740881438>HopesThe game doesn't look ugly and there is no woke shit>FearsThe game looks ugly and there is woke shit
>>740890005The designs are similar but not 1:1. Didn't Wind Waker have a similar thing going on with its intro?
>hopesThat it gets cancelled>fearsThat it releases>You guys think it's outsourced?No. It looks exactly like what I would expect from Nintendo's in-house development staff; dogshit.>The trailer logo looks a bit lazyIt looks exactly the same, just palette swapped gold.>the Link model is very Nintendo-untypicalThe only thing "typical" for Nintendo (since Iwata) is consistently different styles of shit.>the Star Fox remake is made by some randums bums tooWho gives a shit? Nintendo are bums themselves.>If it's mostly outsourced, I will 100% skip it. I buy Nintendo games because they are made by Nintendo, not random peopleWell then congratulations, you're retarded. Unable to see the forest for the trees, taking anything and everything on name alone. Obsessed with IPs because of their name, nevermind the individual qualities of their iterations. The kind of person who probably celebrated "Retro's" return to Metroid Prime, ignorant that the actual team behind the series had been gone for over a decade and this was just Nintendo being callous, dishonorable schemers who care more about their image for marketing purposes than their productions. Again, I reference Iwata, who spent his tenure boosting his ego, making himself look good for the audience and made no effort to ensure the quality of his company's end result.Ha ha, he hold banana, what a funny man.Fuck you, and fuck Nintendo. I hope the headquarters gets 9/11'd.
>>740887821>chemisty systemwhat is that? like a dating sim mechanic?
>>740894721That anon wants to make meth and turn Hyrule into Mexico.
>>740890071You should see the Paper Mario HD texture pack
>>740886135It means Nintendo is full of foids who, even if they don't try to incorporate DEI into OoT Remake, they will remind their managers that "you need to run it through DEI focus groups" and that's the process that ruins our games.
>>740893078They aren't extinct they evolved into the Koroks from WW onward.They were always magical fairy forest spirits, Koroks just made more sense for them as a form once the world flooded. Questions is why did being humanoid children help them in the Oot era (Other than the entire design being a riff on Peter Pan and "never growing up" obviously)
>>740891307Nintendo EPD + MonolithSoft would make the most sense if >>740888147 is accurate
>>740894802no, i had to look it up, but chemistry system refers to how elements come into play and interact with each other. ex. in botwfire lights grass on fire, grass burns makes wind, water puts out fire, water cunducts lighting etc. which is actually a legitimate question to ask, and now i'm wondering if the dungeons and puzzles will stay as they are in 1996 or take these modern elements into consideration.
>>740895118>fire burns things?>water puts out fire?>OH MY SCIENCE HOW DID NINTENDO GET THIS TO WORK???
>>740894969According to the WW Deku Tree, the Koroks were made because the Kokiri couldn't get into seafaring. That's the actual given reason for the change, Koroks aren't their "true form" or anything, they can just travel easier like that. And then BOTK kept them because Japanese nepotism and "it's le reboot" let Aonuma shove his shit into the game without a good reason for it.The Kokiri in OOT also (seemingly) have no meaningful 'duties' unlike the Koroks, so they're just a bunch of literal kids goofing off in the woods.
>>740890242>men have green boots>women have brown boots>Link wears brown bootsuhh, bros? Its not looking so good...
>>740895421Saria made his boots for him.
>>740888220>Go completely ham, change the plot, change dungeons, change everything.why call it ocarina of time or reuse its skeleton then NIGGER
>>740893769There will 100% be colored hylians in castle town
>>740886072He is probably the most significant director desu. He invented Z-targeting
>>740894969Then why are the Rito and Zora existing at the same time?
>>740894969Thats headcanon
>>740896538Shut up chud, story and lore isn't important. Nintendo said not to think about what they're doing with the franchise, and as Nintendo fans, it's our duty to obey them. So stop asking questions and just be grateful that they're separate now, incel.
10 bucks says the classic tunics are Amiibo or DLC locked
>>740888801Sure bro, Ocarina of Time is mogged by the Harley-Davidson and L.A. Riders arcade machine. You're a dumb nigger.
>>740896259>durrr why reuse lttp's skeleton>lbw is one of the best 2d Zelda's in the series with it's own identity
ocarina of time jannies
>more sidequests/optional stuff>better overworld>being able to fish anywhere>new regions or dungeons>malon sex minigameNintendo, make this game!
>>740896673>story and lore isn't important. Nintendo said not to think about what they're doing with the franchiseThey basically said that with BotW, so i did stop caring about any consistency in the lore, it makes no sense for people to care if nintendo themselves don't give a shit. They could even add Rito to OoT and i wouldn't care
They finally hired that man. Good for them
Not gonna lie, I became VERY suspicious when they didn't show any gameplay. I think it might be a 1:1 graphic remake like Star Fox.
>>740897156Good boy. Now say trans rights, Aonuma wants to attract the LGBT audience and chuds like you are taking up space.Make yourself useful or you're not a real fan.
>>740893068That is indeed what makes it so soulless.You can tell it's the Sales/Marketing people going "What game can fit nicely into our fiscal quarter and sell the new console?" and they pick the one you just have to redo and hope people still like it.Whereas if the industry wasn't so entirely dictated by monetary gains the logical answer would almost certainly always be "Let's take TP, and iron out its flaws" or "Let's remake Wind Waker, and add in the content we missed."To be fair, OoT did have cut content, so I'm hoping the reimagining can address some of that, but it's way more likely to cut dungeons that they shipped before than complete the game and re-add all missing content.
the best part of oot was the combat, a free camera will ruin it
>>740893198More like "this diddy blud ahh game" upon seeing them
>>740881438I just see the NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN artstyle and my mind immediately goes to stuff like Jabu Jabu. What the fuck is that gonna look like? Speaking of what the fuck are the Zoras gonna look like? The Gorons? I sincerely doubt the game will be visually appealing and I also don't think it needed a remake in the first place. If they HAD TO remake a 64 title for whatever reason I woudlve much preferred SM64 in the Odyssey engine.
>>740893198When has anyone ever liked the koroks? At most they were considered tolerable in Wind Waker but no one ever liked them the way they do the likes of the gorons and the gerudo.
>>740897306With all their other 1 to 1 remakes, they showed gameplay immediately.
>>740885821That's mainly SS being a "big brother" entry to the DS-era Zeldas, which also had 1 item at a time. I'm glad they abandoned that in ALBW, and the 3DS remakes.But BotW also having a "pause to select from list" for literally everything is also shit. But then, BotW isn't even a Zelda game so it hardly matters.>>740886072Koizumi was instrumental in like Link's 3D model, Navi, converting Mario 64's Castle hub into a Zelda which they then scrapped and uh... uhhhhhh, not much more actually LOL.>AonumaHe was responsible for ALL dungeon design, so that's why he became the new director, because without those you don't have a Zelda game.>Kensuke TanabeHe insisted on "backstory" like in ALttP, which OoT has in the form of the genesis story with the goddesses, some musings about the King having a torture chamber and something about Ganondorf being a thief, but he was hardly instrumental to why anything in OoT's story is good, because Kensuke Tanabe is a fucking loser LOL>Toru OsawaOoT is literally the brainchild of his work. He previously worked on the Zelda-like for GB "The Frog for whom the Bell Tolls" and Famicom Detective Club both as writer and director. He insisted on the Swordfighting mechanics of the game, and he developed the actual story and script for the game.>MiyamotoHe insisted on Epona, adding Child Link, and the "4 girls". In a BotW interview he said he remember stressing to the team that Link needs to have 4 girls that he has to leave behind, and it's sad. He also demanded you should be able to cut up signs in the game.So the game became what it was thanks to that mix of directors, but really Aonuma and Toru Osawa are the reason why the game is actually amazing, and Miyamoto's input was good fuel for ideas.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUcwsjyd8Q&t=2s
>>740897750>When has anyone ever liked the koroks?
>>740890772Nintendo *can't* do literally everything first-party, so other devs get the HAL and Intelligent Systems treatments
How will they ruin Malon's melons?
>>740897794Aonuma should've stayed in the dungeon-making dungeon.
>You guys think it's outsourced?Yes, 100%. The fact that they only showed that shitty Link model and nothing else for a game out in literal months means Nintendo knows the remake is underwhelming, why hide it otherwise?
>>740881438My biggest fear is that it will be dogshit because it is not made by inhouse Nintendo. Its by a new western company like Star Fox Demake on Switch 2. You can easly see that the style on link and the drawn story map does not have that japanese Nintendo style and feeling on it. Its more western...
>>740898676They'll drag on the floor
>>740898885You're a drooling retard if you think Miyamoto would allow that
>>740898976He allowed star fox remake on switch 2. And it turned out to be shit and more censored than the OG and the 3DS remake.
>>740898959That will be a man in the remake, who looks very gay.
>>740881438Hopes:OOT dungeons but the overworld is vastly improvedExpectation:1-1 remake like OOT3DFear:It's BOTW-ified. Dungeons are stripped down so they can be done in any orderTBQH I really dislike the artstyle from the little that has been shown
>>740881438>the Link model is very Nintendo-untypicaUnfortunately, I think this ugly Lalafell "Link," coming off the disaster Star Fox demake and the ruination of DK, is an indication that this *is* what's going to be typical from now on. Nintendo is intentionally ruining their characters in their games to get people to go to their shitty movies.
>>740892093yeah
>>740898676She'll be the size depicted in artwork rather than the size of her og 3d model
>>740900404he really doesn't look that different from the twilight princess and skyward sword links. just as a kid. it's probably intentionally modeled after those games too. adult link will probably look something like this.
>>740902850>adult link will probably look something like thisGood fucking god I hope so.
>>740881438Hopes: it maintains the dark undertones and doesn’t sanitize it. World exploration having that same Metroidvania/classic Zelda feel with items opening exploration for areas. Fears: Random black/brown hylian NPCs. Unless they add in a Lurelin or ocean fishing Village. But even then, ugh. Not a good feeling seeing this >>740884215Look at the new Fable game where it’s every human race thrown together without coherence. It’s just so horrible.
>>740881438The voice explaining everything in the trailer is literally Sahasrahla.In ALttP he was the one who knew the story of the events in OoT. If you read the short novel that came with ALttP, it's written Ganondorf found the triforce due to an "Accident" (Link opening the Door of Time for Ganon) and other details of OoT are described there. Sahasrahla said in-game he is seeing the world fall to darkness twice. It's implied he was there in some of the events known as the Imprisoning War. He knows the story of OoT and is explaining it to someone in the future, ALttP era in the trailer.
>>740899149Star Fox? Nobody cares about star fox
>>740881438I have a lot of hopes, but if it’s just Ocarina of Time with a fresh coat of paint and voice acting I won’t be too disappointed. There’s a lot of different ways they can go, having a combat system similar to botw but keeping everything else the same, making a whole new combat system and overhauling the dungeon and world puzzles, there’s a lot that can go wrong with both. I hope it’s the second option
>>740903040>Look at the new Fable game where it’s every human race thrown together without coherence. It’s just so horrible.>The kind of shit South Park made fun of 2 decades agoClown world. I'm afraid of dying in WWIII ngl, but it can't come soon enough. We need that "great reset", and it needs to remilitarize men, get rid of women's rights, make minorities irrelevant, and give us another 70 years of safe white exceptionalism, without foids screaming us in the ear about social justice or their god damn rights.
>>740883657Like this?
>>740884836>maybe giving Phantom Ganon personality and finally confirming that Phantom Ganon = Ganondorf's Fi/GhirahimWhy in the ever fuck would you want something that stupid?
>>740881438I fully expect it to be like the meme video. Handholding fairy dialed up even further. I have no faith in modern game developers.
>>740904073The entire point of OoT is to fight against a future you already know will happen which is ALttP. Now, with Sahasrahla's dialogue in the game it will actually highlight the conceptual relevance between ALttP and OoT.Finally the retard zoomers who dont know how to read and think the Downfall Timeline doesnt make sense because they don't understand what conceptual relevance is will finally get it. I mean, if you just read the book that came with ALttP it makes sense, but now the retards can get it bc an old man will literally explain it to them in game. That is what will happen.
>>740897306They would have shown gameplay if that was the case
>>740902928>TP Link's iron hard abs>TP Link's insane triceps>TP Link's ripped back Did they really have to make him such a powerhouse? Mother fucker tosses Gorons around without magic and sword checks a Ganondorf wielding the triforce of power. Midna had to leave, her hips would be destroyed for life.
>>740882335They already have Gerudo, and they want more minority representation?
>>740907024>They already have Gerudo, and they want more global majority representation?Fify. Also the Gerudo are just poopie Hylians now according to the nu games. What I want to know is what happened to the humans?
>>740881438Hope: Game has an Affinity mechanic and you can date the girlsFear: It's a faithful remake
>>740907405Humans don't exist
>>7409059791999 interview>I wanted to first ask about the scenario for Ocarina of Time. Before it was released, Nintendo announced that this new N64 Zelda would "unlock the mysteries of the entire Zelda story". Could you tell us about that in your own words?>Miyamoto: Maybe "mysteries" was a bit of an exaggeration, but you do learn the story of where the triforce came from, and it is meant to be "Episode 1" of the Zelda saga. The basic order is Ocarina, then the original FDS Zelda, followed by A Link to the Past.There was always meant to only be one timeline in zelda. WW caused the problems because of the flood plot and ganondorf mysteriously being the ocarina of time ganondorf when we knew that he was sealed in the sacred realm and later attempted stealing the triforce causing ALttP. They could have easily ignored WW but they double down on timeline trash in TP now explaining what happened in the child timeline, bringing more confusion on where the old games even fit now which made them come up with the "actually link died in there lol" timelineOoT marketing in japan was all about it being the first game chronologically. OoT ALttP is literally perfect because it was wholly planned. The previous game tells us about the triforce and how ganon invaded the sacred realm and in this next game we finally know exactly what happened. Going from years of 2d games to the first 3d explaining where the triforce comes from and ending with ganondorf screaming curse you in a white void promising that he will return. Zelda was never meant to be complicated, the adult timeline was supposed to lead to ALttP, not set in a world where link dies. Aonuma fucked everything by creating WW and claiming that was the adult timeline when claiming that this is the world where link dies makes more sense if you imagine the flooding was a last effort from the sages to stop ganon.
>>740881438Hopes>a new dungeon and superboss to test all your skills>optional rematches against the bosses & minibosses where they fight at full potential. Gohma spawns more hatchlings, Twinrova covers the floor in slippery ice, etc.>gossip stones can outright show a new scene of what happened nearby for some new worldbuilding and lore>more minigamesFears>censorship>no voice acting
>>740905979I've been wanting the original Imprisoning War to be depicted for over 15 years now you generation warring nigger.
>>740884215lel
>>740907990The imprisoning war is ocarina of time >>740907841, this was the game that explained the lore set up in the previous game. After Link beats Ganon he is sealed in the sacred realm and from there he takes the triforce and causes the events in ALttP. The "downfall" timeline was supposed to be the adult timeline and the child timeline leads to majora's mask.
>>740908239>The imprisoning war is ocarina of timeIt was SUPPOSED to be the Imprisoning War, but console limitations prevented that from coming to fruition. As it is now, it can't be the Imprisoning War, as it was waged against Ganon after he assembled the full Triforce. Ganon is sealed with only the Triforce of Power when he loses in OOT.Downfall, as retarded as it is, does get one thing right. After WW fucked everything up, the final boss of OOT is the only time/place where the original Imprisoning War CAN take place. Ganondorf has no reason to shed his humanity and become Ganon until then, and the only way he can assemble the Triforce and wage the war at all is if Link fails. I don't like it, but it technically puts everything back together.>The "downfall" timeline was supposed to be the adult timelineCorrect!
>>740881438>HopesThey expand on the sword combat and the rest of the toolkid They give more reasons to use things like the Ice Arrows and other itemsThey expand on exploration by adding more things to findThat they keep the darker aspects of the world without going edgy on it, or removing it completelyThey put the most effort on dungeon design, enemy placement and puzzles. Dungeons are the most fun part of Zelda.>FearsThey make Hyrule field bigger and even more emptyThey fall for the pitfalls of the open world memeThey remove items and magics completelyThey change the story for the worseThey insert DEI shit, this is specially a fear because this is the game where Zelda hides as SheikThey dumb down dungeons for the sake of non-linear progression like some of the LBW ones did, you can keep open progression and good design at the same time, and if not then don't dumb down things.They remove features, every remake removes shit nowadays and it is worrying.I want to be excited, but nowadays I just think old games should only get ports and at most remasters. Something about game development changed since '06 in a direction I don't like.
>>740907405Round tits too
>>740886135It means Anita and Neil Druckmann are co-directing the demake and Sweet Baby is rewriting the story.
>>740881438>You guys think it's outsourced?Sadly yes. The trailer showed no signs of being directed by people Nintendo internally and looked exactly like what you'd expect AI generated outsourced slop to. It's completely deflated my expectations and I've basically immediately stopped caring.
>>740911612Dumbass
>>740885219That legit looks better than what we've been shown of the remake so far.
>>740881438Needs to be open world and non linear or it will be dead on arrival.
>>740907991This fucking website is always behind on model rips
>>740890054You can't even look at the environment from this pint normally, so they didn't account for how it would look from up there.
>>740895334>The Kokiri in OOT also (seemingly) have no meaningful 'duties' unlike the Koroks, so they're just a bunch of literal kids goofing off in the woods.That's absolutely utter bullshit. They're constantly complaining about how much work Mido forces them to do and how much maintenance their village takes, and you can see all the tools in their houses.
>>740912395You are retarded for thinking an eternal 10 year old shoving his chores onto his fellow eternal 10 year olds is the same as the Deku Tree sending the Koroks out to sow new trees on the Great Sea.>b-but i imagined how their society works!!!Maybe if the remake expands on what goes on in the village, then you'll have a point. Until then, try talking to the NPCs and reading all the dialogue. Genuinely. You'd be surprised by how much of OOT has been forgotten about.
>>740889740This. I prefer dubs in everything but Zelda games are just so fkn bad at capturing the correct tone with their VOs. The trailer: a dimly lit tapestry with haunting fleeting ocarina notes, almost foreboding sinister vibes.The VO: on the night before Christmas a special good boy will get their wish of a puppyI bet it’s the owl talking
>>740912724The actual fuck. You're fucking insane and acting like you're right when all the evidence is flatly against you and you're the one making shit up and doubling down on your own shit.
>>740913010>no actual rebuttal>u-uhhh m-m-my evidence destro-*sob* destroyed you...I take it back. Don't play the games, kill yourself instead.
>>740913010>picking up rocks and clearing weeds is hardcore work bro, you're insaneGet back to work, Pablo.
>>740912724>remake expands on what goes on in the villageI wouldn't mind that, actually.
>>740912724Then it will be at FF7 situation again. It’s crazy how much the original game is misremembered because there was a lot of room for imagination to fill in the blanks and bad translation. The lore of the remakes existed in the OG, just explained in much more depth. All the multiverse shenanigans can be explained by THE LIFESTREAM and if you payed attention in the og you’d know that. The remakes are written by the original scenario writers, and where major changes are made like Dynes suicide and Cids personality, they are due to ratings boards and Karen’s ruining everything.
>>740913124The fuck is hardcore about what the Koroks do?
>>740913342>The lore of the remakes existed in the OG, just explained in much more depth. All the multiverse shenanigans can be explained by THE LIFESTREAM and if you payed attention in the og you’d know that.This is straight up trolling and you suck at it.
>>740907405They retconned the hylian extinction lore point from A Link to the Past with A Link Between World
>>740913439I’m not trolling. Bugehagen in the OG said the Lifestream is the sum of the memories and information of the dead. That’s literally what we are seeing with the Zack sequences in Rebirth. Zack is DEAD we are seeing a Lifestream diorama due to multiple memories and desires mingling. Really the only thing that didn’t exist in the OG are the whispers which will be explained in part 3. My guess is that Aeriths holy materia caused the whispers to appear since she could see the future. That needs to be explained if anything, why did holy have these extra memories.
>>740881816I think the 3DS version is such an improvement that it's impossible to say the original aged gracefully by comparison. The FPS alone disqualifies it and you can't just write that off.
>>740913636>Really the only thing that didn’t exist in the OG are the whispers which will be explained in part 3.Lol at you actually trying to dismiss this like that. Yes, obviously the whisper and multiworld bullshit have nothing to with anything in the OG. Fuck off.
>>7409136523DS has very inferior animation.
Ganondorf will expose his huge cock that contains the Triforce of Power
>>740913793Keep crying.
>>740884445This nigga eating beans!!!
>>740904073So you're saying the game will end with link losing? Would be based, but I don't think nintendo has the balls to do it.
And here I was thinking I was clever for coming up with a theory that the remake will be the fallen timline, but I see I'm just late to the party
>>740883485>normiesyour opinion being mine wont stop me from telling you to get the fuck out normalnigger
My biggest fear is that they will BotW it up like others have said. Even something as small as letting you do the dungeons in any order would be entirely detrimental to the game design and missing the point. In the Zelda games they've made where they give you "complete freedom" the compromises are so massive it ruins the game, the dungeons become boring because they need to be designed to be completed at any point, the items you find are worthless crap, the puzzles become even easier than they already were, I'm just sick of it. The more linear and thoughtfully designed games in this franchise are just better and provide a more complete feeling and satisfying experience. That being said, I would prefer if the game wasn't 100% the same as it was. Really what I mainly want is for them to just make it a bigger game. Keep the fundamentals and overall gameplay and mechanics as identical as possible but expand the adventure itself. Make the world just a bit larger, make the dungeons bigger, add more secrets to find, add new sidequests, expand on the story and characters with new cutscenes, etc. I wouldn't even mind if the dungeons were entirely different but just kept the same theming. Maybe add a Temple of Light instead of getting the Light Medallion just handed to you, or turn the Ice Cavern into a full length dungeon. If they do redesign the dungeons maybe they could add new mini bosses somewhere in the middle of each one like Majora's Mask and other later games did. I could also see areas like the Lost Woods, Death Mountain, and Lake Hylia being expanded to great effect as well.As long as they just don't try to make the game something it isn't I will be happy. Unfortunately I don't trust them enough right now without seeing more. I personally haven't liked a Zelda game since Skyward Sword and Aonuma's current design philosophy and the things he's been saying about the series are beyond retarded to me so as of now I don't feel good about this remake.
