Not like this Nintendobros...
>>740904497GIWTWM
Which youtuber told you this?
As it should
>>740904497Nintenbros? I thought Nintendo was on top with keeping our brand safe and clean! Oh no oh no
>>740904719>youtuber More like journo but, same diffrence.
>>740904497love to see it, been rooting for their downfall since they began poisoning gaming
>>740905163Seething cause Nintendo is the only console keeping to it's guns for exclusives since forever. Sony/Xbox bros lost.
>>740904497Falling apart? They sent an incredibly loud message that any game developer which steps too close to Pokémon's toes will face years of expensive legal battles. Actually winning a judgement against Pocketpair is an optional Secondary Objective.
>>740905278seething? nah, I'm getting what I want
>>740905278so, at what point does the customer win?you might be concerned with Pokemon being "protected" but are you aware of the state it is in? the games are mere advertisements for the merch.
>>740904719https://gamesfray.com/ahead-of-october-1-court-hearing-nintendo-has-zero-chance-of-prevailing-over-current-palworld-versions-it-may-get-30k-chump-change/
>>740905626>so, at what point does the customer win?Is this suppose to be an argument for the basis of "Nintendo games are for babies"? How original. >the games are mere advertisements for the merch.Been like that for awhile
>>740906182Looks bad for pocketpair. 99.99% of their profits came from that period Nintendo is targeting.
>>740905479Wheres the tendies at? This is gold.
>>740905479Same. I'm buying the dip.
>>740906447Right here>>740906513Thanks for making my stocks cheaper for me ^_^
>>740906351>Is this suppose to be an argument for the basis of "Nintendo games are for babies"? How original.next sentence, retard. games are poorly made. why protect something that is neglected in the first place? if anything, competition would improve quality. As we have seen, after Palworld, Pokemon has been trying different things>Been like that for awhileall the money they are paying their lawyers should have gone into the recent pokemon games instead
>>740906182This is how they have a 100% conviction rate btw -Anon.
>>740904497The funniest part is Palworld obviously/blatantly copied Pokemon designs, but instead if suing them for that Nintendo chose to go after them with some bullshit ball/creature catching mechanic patent, like retards. Get fucked, idiots.
>>740906351>N-No, you don't understand! It's been shit for a while! In fact, it was ALWAYS shit! Which is why I'm defending it now!This is why Nintendo is able to get away with treating you like a battered housewife
>>740904497>Nintendo' lawsuit against Palworld is falling apartJust like Palworld lmao
>>740906568>Implying a dirty gaijin is allowed to buy Nintendo stocks
>>740905626>so, at what point does the customer win?Considering Xbox and Sony dropped competition.... never. Until they start competing again ofc, Xbox is more close to that, that should tell you everything.
>>740906445the patents are 100% bogusI hope the judge tears nintendo a new asshole
>>740907589It has already begun with rejects across the US and even that one in Japan about the Pokeballs.
Happy that Tendies are finally getting fucked over. Be even more funny when they turn around and take it because Nintendo can never be wrong.
>>740907687>Happy that Tendies are finally getting fucked over.This only affects pokemonfags, not tendies.
>>740907589>the patents are 100% bogusWhich youtuber told you this?
>>740908637>>740904719which nintentoddlertuber told you to spam this?
>>740908637The youtuber called U.S. Patent and Trademark Office that rejected 26 ridiculous patent trolling claims against Palworld.
R-revenge status?
>>740908775>U.S. Patent and Trademark Office that rejected 26 ridiculous patent trolling claims against Palworld.Source?
>>740908637so they are not bogus?
>>740908951https://gamesfray.com/u-s-patent-examiner-rejects-nintendos-summon-subcharacter-and-let-it-fight-in-1-of-2-modes-patent-as-obvious-non-final-ruling/
>>740909161Correct.
>>740909247So the patent examiners made a mistake in classifying them as obvious and bogus?
>the tendie is doing the thing again
>>740907687I am too, I just wish it was them getting fucked at the expense of an actually good game, not survival crafting shit that looks like an asset flip despite not being one.
>>740909231Which youtuber told you this was 26 patent claims, and that this had anything to do with palworld? That is one patent with 26 steps, is not part of any lawsuit, nor has any relation to palword what so ever. So I ask again, which youtuber told you otherwise?
>>740909324Famitsu schizo's thing is just repeating obviously retarded claims to waste people's time, but it just helps everyone reinforce the facts and confirm that he's a fucking idiot.
>>740909306I'm sorry I'm oblivious to whatever narrative a youtuber spun for you. What are you talking about?
>>740904497China...won?
>>740909402>>740909479Actually read the link before being a retard again and you will be less oblivious to everything around you.
>>740908637Say it again
>>740909524I read it top to bottom months ago and even read the patent in question. I suggest you do the same instead of listening to a youtuber lie to you. It will be that much less painful for you when pocketpair inevitably loses their lawsuit.
>>740909627Sure thing. Lie agin and I'll say it again. Go.
>>740909731Without dodging or obsessing over some imaginary youtuber again, tell what the link says.
What happened to "you will be caught"?
>>740909731so that means we will never see a non-nintendo monster collector like palworld in our lifetime? damn
>>740907589>the patents are 100% bogusNone of the patents went through and the filings were dismissed.
>>740909802A patent Nintendo submitted was rejected and sent back to be reworked.
>>740909949Which youtuber told you that this would be the outcome if Nintendo won?
>>740910118So why did you ask about a youtuber saying anything when it's the USPTO that released this statement?
nintendo lost and got raped?
>>740909949believe it or not there are several "palworld-likes" already in production.
>>740910228Stick around for November 9th to find out the beginning.
>>740909794Pokemon is a kids game
>>740910170How come you're so obsessed with youtube anon? Is that where you get all your information?
>>740910170No youtuber, I just assumed that if nintendo wins, they can just wave the patent in front of any dev that tries to make a game with similar mechanics.
>>740910190See >>740909402
>>740910290I agree.
>>740906182Something is wrong, 30k is low even for me, imagine for Nintendo They probably spent over 200k in this litigation
>>740905479Buy the FUCKING dip. The stock might be a fraction of what it was (it's still higher value than it used to be because there was a stock split a few years ago) but they still give out a dividend.
>>740910395100% chance they will if japanIf they get patents in the US they willEU: Luh mao even
>>740910351It's a simple question. If you can't source your information then you might be retarded. >>740910395You can rest easy, that's not how patents work at all.
>>740910424The patent indeed contains 26 claims and indeed affects Palworld, what youtuber told you otherwise?
If people had actually read the damn thing, because PocketPair had changed all the stuff that Nintendo had said was infringing on their patents for their release, Nintendo can't really go after them anymore. They can only go after the earnings before the changes, with is roughly that small amount that they've been asking for in the first place. Nintendo already got everything they wanted from this aka they got PP to back off while stalling the fuck out of them in court.
>>740904497I hope Nintendo loses so we can get more hornycute monster games
>>740907687Use Nintenchads do not give a fuck about Pokemon after gen 2 and the only reason this lawsuit exists is because Pokemon Co/Game Freak are cowards and the current Nintendo president is literally an ex Pokeslop Co. Accountant.
>>740910562>The patent indeed contains 26 claimsThat's not what you said. You said 16 payent claims were rejected. One patent claim was reject. That patent has 26 steps. And no, it has literally nothing to do with palworld.
Revenge status?
>>740910579So basically all nintendo got out of it is getting patents rejected and some pocket change, it'd be smart of pocketpair to counter-sue eventually due to the patent trolling damages.
>no mention that this only effects older versions of the game now which you have to have skills or be a pirate to access, nintendo already lost for that reason.Who told me this? Your fav youtuber.
>>740910642*26>>740910643Won. Winning. Triumphant.
>>740906513please buy my bags.
>>740910560yes, that's how patents work retard it prevents people from using a similar concept so theres no more palworld likes, if they truly cared they would've gone after any other game with an object being thrown at a creature to capture them, also its funny how your genuinely being a retard just to avoid refutation
>>740910579>N-nuh uh, Nintendo is winning! This was just a warning! They got pocketpair to tremble in fear!Lmao last year nintendies were screaming that their beloved god would pull Palworld off the market, absolutely amazing how far they've fallen
>>740910642Do you even know what a patent claim is? The patent being rejected has 26 claims, that is a correct statement and you could have avoided making that stupid post by reading the link.
>>740910601they'll win on 30k in damages but they cant stop palworld from releasing. they can go after palworld-likes if they use the same patents that were a problem initially
>>740910579>They can only go after the earnings before the changes, with is roughly that small amount that they've been asking for in the first place.Uh no, palworld sold 99.99% of their copies during the period Nintendo is targeting. It is by far the largest amount of money they could poasibly get.
>>740910560I'm afraid I don't get my information from any youtubers. Does that answer your question?
>>740906182>Nintendo's only way to "win" this lawsuit is to reduce the scope of litigation and payout to fucking nothingL M A O
>>740910770honestly pokemon doesn't deserve that 30k and the excuse kids could be confused by palworld is genuinely such a big cope, considering more adults play pokemon than actual kids
>>740910732Sorry anon, that's simply not how patents work. Your favorite youtuber lied to you.
>>740910950>still spamming that shit as if it holds any candles so, when are you going to go back to your circlejerkistu thread? cause your adding nothing to this thread besides wasting everyones time like that ark fag who persist that ark is better when it really isn't
>>740910752I get it anon, some youtuber shilled to you that 26 patents were rejected in the palworld lawsuit and now you learned your lesson not to trust youtubers.
>>740910664>change the thing violating the patent in question>counter-sue for patent trollingIf they changed it that means they caved in to nintendo, they wouldn't need to change anything if they weren't violating anything.
>>740910664Anon, they still have the patents, what was happening was the normal process of courts and the company deciding how specific those patents applied to ensure it's not some overall vague shit like trying to patent touch screens. Remember, however much Nintendo spent here, PP had probably spent a lot more and had to delay their release til now, nevermind they can't try to steal another idea from Nintendo without going through all this shit again. And this time, the court will probably start applying punitive damage because they should have known better. So PP will probably start stealing ideas from other companies now.
>>740910950Which youtuber told you that?
>>740911125Mind showing where that was ever stated? Fix your reading comprehension before making another stupid coping post.
>>740904719>>740908637>>740909402>>740909479>>740909731>>740910170>>740910562>>740911125>>740910950
>>740910809Then you made it up. Simple as.>>740910828Is that going to be in your next youtube video?
>>740911021Sure.>>740911184Sure.>>740911195Sure.
>>740910752anon do not reply to this retard >>740911125he genuinely cannot refute anything just let him bump the thread himself
>>740911195STOP IT
>>740911140>PP had probably spent a lot more and had to delay their release til now,The things tendies tell themselves to cope, damn. PP will have to pay-at most-30K to nintendo, and that's if Nintendo actually wins, which just isnt going to happen. If they had such a slam dunk case they would've won or settled ages ago.
>>740911140Palworld didn't have to delay any release nor were any "ideas stolen" to begin with, your post is some weird tendie fanfic.
>>740911131They accepted that they stepped over a line, took all steps to rectify it, and Nintendo punishes them as a result. They should have just said fuck it and actually put ripped assets in palworld
>>740911208I ask again, is youtube the only source of information you're familiar with?
>>740911320It's even funnier considering they future-proofed every change by introducing mod support to steam.
>>740911140Pocket Pair releasing two collabs, revealing a spin-off and a card game with a significant Japanese publisher is exactly why most people have assumed up to this point that they were taking the lawsuit in stride.
>>740905402They also created legal precedent that advertises to every dev in the world exactly how far they can go in blatantly ripping off pokemon.
>>740907760Is it a bad thing though? If Nintendo isn't allowed to force a monopoly, they'll have to improve their games instead.
>>740911287You retard, the lawsuit was 60k + Pocketpair make all the changes that infringed upon their patents OR they'll start going after the earnings directly. Guess what the fuck happened?
>>740911259I've refuted literally everything without challenge lol. Which youtuber told you I didn't?
>>740911287>PP will have to pay-at most-30K to nintendo, and that's if Nintendo actually winsSource? Preferably in the form of a youtuber you watched?
>>740904497how much money was burned on lawyer fees?will pocketpair get reimbursed for nintendos severe retardation?
>>740911401is youtube the only source of information, to why your parents genuinely dropped you on you're head? cause it seems like it.
>>740911475Which youtuber taught you how to read?
>>740911417It doesn't matter because the main goal is to stop PP from copying anymore of their games. You think this is the first monster capturing game that Pokemon went up against? The only real threat is if their merch started selling gangbuster but that ain't happening.
>>740911401No I'm familier with all sorts of sources. Thanks for asking.
>>740911449>Guess what the fuck happened?....Nothing.Holy shit tendies are retarded. If that fever dream of yours was the case, the trial would've resolved last year after PP made those changes.
>>740911532Which youtuber told you to ask me this?
>>740911475>looks through his text thread its genuinely a nothing burger of the same excuseWOWWW sure showed me mr youtube man
A youtuber told me to open this thread
>>740911437They honestly just should have ignored this.They pretty much signal boosted you can completely ripoff Pokemon with minimal repercussion.
>>740911558>It doesn't matter because the main goal is to stop PP from copying anymore of their games.They just copied Animal Crossing and the Pokemon TCG instead.
>>740911580Anon, pocketpair made the changes, the ball exist but the act of throwing it and releasing the mon from it is gone. That was the specific patent that PP was infringing upon.
>>740911619ESL
>>740911531Look, I'm just confused as to why my only options are youtuber or made it the fuck up. Maybe you could share some of that superior intellect and enlighten me
>>740911437dude they still would've done it even if palworld didn't exist to this day, im genuinely getting tired of this excuse that getting rid of palworld would rid the game market of clones or ripoffs, when it's clearly an exaggerated excuse.
>>740911748And when were those changes made?
>>740911698They can do whatever they want as long as they don't infringe upon any patent. Mihoyo is releasing an animal crossing gacha and Nintendo doesn't give a fuck. Besides, they already released Pokopia so whatever Pocketpair does with their Animal Crossing clone will just not match up.
>>740911580>after PP made those changes.Which happened after they sold 99.99% of their copies so far. Nintendo is targeting the pre chage era, of which pocketpair literally admits guilt, because they fucking changed it as a result of the lawsuit.
>>740911645Dinossom's face is more reminiscent of a gen 1-2 Pokemon. The visual identity is completely different now
>>740911645In a perfect world the corrupt patent officers that even granted them the bogus patents would go to prison, nintendo would be slapped with a hefty fine and legal repercussions for bribing government employees, and there would be better systems put in place to prevent any more future patent trolling, but this is not a perfect world.
>>740911870>they admitted it by changing it!Kek the law doesnt work that way.
>>740911752>Isn't even using ESL rightNewfag, go find another thread to ragebait on you're clearly not old enough to be on this site, if you genuinely had a hard time reading that
>>740904497>serbopinion disregarded
>>740911856The week after Nintendo sued them. Everyone notice the jankiness of PP removing that feature from the game. They eventually re-added the ball itself but the entire motion of throwing it to release it is forever gone.
>>740911514>nintendo spent 40 million USD on litigation between march 2025 and april 202690% of that has to have been used to fight pocketpair, that's nothing for nintendo but that's a metric shitton for an indie studio, I'm only assuming most of the money being burned is on nintendos side because their probably hiring per hour lawyers who only know how to dick around for 16 hours a day
>>740911937>They eventually re-added the ball itselfJuding by how the lawsuit is going, they'll re-add the throwing animation too
>>740911912It is absolutely a sign of guilt.
>>740911969>I'm only assuming most of the money being burned is on nintendos sideYeah, you have no godamn idea how expensive lawyers are. If they had hired the cheap shit, they wouldn't have changed the stuff that was infringing the patents because only good lawyers tell their clients when they can't fucking win like that.
>>740911753>gets a link a to article site related to uspto or jpo >HMMM must be a youtuber!that's literally you rn, nintendo isn't broadcasting this trial because they usually keep lawsuits hush hush for meantime being until it's over, so people have to work with the tidbits they get from insiders for info nimrod
>>740912070Go tell the judge that
>>740912141The judge agreed, hence why Nintendo is getting 60k. The amount didn't matter, only the ruling itself.
>>740912084That makes it doubly embarrassing for Nintendo as Pocketpair is winning with cheap lawyers
>>740912141Nintendo lawyers are all over it.
>>740912084the lawyers told nintendo they can't win but old japanese salarymen won't take no for an answer and they got money to burnif nintendo doesn't win this furukawa and satoshi will publicly commit sudoku
>>740912185>The judge agreed, hence why Nintendo is getting 60kAnd where did you get that from, tendie?
>>740912193They really suck at their jobs then
>>740912189it's a shut and closed case, however nintendo is fucking retarded
>>740912094Well my tidbits come from articles posted in previous threads. Links to which I can't provide because why would I save those? It's an open discussion, not a sanctioned debate.You're welcome to look for the articles for yourself if you're interested but there are no stakes here for me to bother digging them up
>>740912185>Which youtuber told you this?
>>740912441yeah, and those come from WHO? exactly, i want you to tell me where that information comes from?Since you think it's all youtubers
>>740912446Me, I'm the youtuber, I told them that.
>>740912285No not really. They're very good.
So palworld finally won?
>>740912528All the misinformation is coming from youtubers directly quoting redditors. Like for instance this redditor >>740908951 claims 26 patents directly involved in the palworld lawauit were rejected by the judge. It was a lie of course.
>>740912695Go check youtube>>740912712Meant to quote >>740908775
>>740912606Sure they are. That's why Nintendo is losing
>>740912767Which youtuber told you Nintendo was losing?
>>740912712i mean some were denied like the mobile one that was denied for having prior art used against palworlds mobile version your somewhat right to call that out, but it still got some rejected which can be reappealed which in my opinion is still bullshit considering there's no limit to how many times you can reappeal constantly
>>740912712Anyone can read the post and realize you're strawmanning, funniest shit is when you tried to move the goalpost by avoiding the word "claims" and instead wrote "steps" when stuck in a corner.
>>740912528I'm pretty sure the ones I read were from forbes. I've also seen major news networks have covered it on their websites, although I didn't read them since the headlines indicated it was the same stuff I'd already seen. BBC, CNN, my local networks, I'm sure Fox covered it too. You're also very likely to find this stuff on the gaming publications like IGN etc.
>>740912882I'm not worried about that
Why does Palworld live rent free in tendie's minds? It was an okayish ARK clone with a gimmick. Most people played it for awhile, had fun, and forgot about it. Only tendies keep its discussion alive.
>>740913037Clearly you are since you're so desperate with your comically bad lies.
>>740912528Sealioning cunt
>>740912814So what's the case status?
alright, any chance of this thread going anywhere productive or entertaining is dead, because the buzzword faggot is here
>>740913037nta but honest question what is your genuine reason for wanting gamefreak or pokemon to win this when it's not really going to benefit you at allinb4 >to stop a wave of clone games from stealing designs and making derivative knockoffsthey've been doing this since forever its not really anything new regardless of palworld getting taken of the market, another one would've popped up with even worse plagiarism and predatory monetization.
>>740913104Lol so are you. See >>740908775
>>740913137Look it up, sealion.
>>740913061>Nobody can do this better than Nintendo!>someone does it better than Nintendo>@NINTENDO @CIA @MOM @TRUMP REEEEEEEE MUH COPYRIGHT MUH PATENTS SHUT IT DOWN WAAAAAAHHHH!!!! Tendies are the og cultists of this board
>>740913131>british insult out of nowhere what even is that supposed to mean?
>>740913196Were you retarded enough to expect anything from this thread to start with?
>>740913197To stop a wave of clone games from stealing designs and making derivative knockoffs.
>>740913281Stop seething nintroon. It's Nintendo's loss. You'll live.
>>740913312It means your argument consists of nothing but questions
>>740913281Okay, since apparently every source of information I know of is a lying Youtuber, maybe you can tell me what some GOOD sources of information are?
>>740913312>sealion starts sealioning in reaponse to being called a sealion
>>740904497Foreverial Tiedup Mario, spring mummified permanently and loving it
>>740913379Who's this lying youtuber that works at the US patent office that rejected the 26 patent claims? Only you seem to be aware of such a thing.
>>740913358KEK of course is you.
>>740913440I never said anything about that. I just asked a question.
>>740913440Meant to quote the tendie retard >>740912712
>>740913379>continues sealioningHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Just stop posting dude. I'm not answering your questions or helping you in any way.
>>740905626Mostly at the point where you can't patent basic ass gameplay elements so megacorps can't block games from being released because they have double jumping.The nintendo patents are ridiculously generic and literally blocks you from making a new game.
>>740913516Because you don't have an answer.
it's so funny how SMT preceded the idea of pokeballs by years and nobody cares
>>740913371so, a pointless insult, almost like how you constantly assumed everything that was linked was from a youtuber, your brain must've came from a youtuber, if that's genuinely all you can get from that statement.
>>740913440They rejected 1 patent. That one patent has 26 steps. You keep selling this as "26 patents were rejected in the palworld lawsuit". I'm guessing you're trying to copy your favorite youtuber or something.
>>740913334too bad the lawsuit won't actually solve that enjoy the billions of lethal company and ultra kills clones popping out
>>740913625>Which youtuber told you this?
>>740913536Nope. Even better. I'm refusing to help you in any way out of malice towards you.
>>740913687I'm sure your Youtuber boyfriend thinks that's so cool of you.
>>740913576You should stop jumping into reply chains without looking because I was the one getting asked which youtuber I heard that from, dumbass
>>740913625See >>740912882
Why is Nintendo so evil?
>>740913627Will do.
WHY IS THIS THREAD UP, THIS IS NINTENDOPHOBIC@FBI @POTUS @ADL @NINTENDO @ABIBDO SOMETHING
>>740913751>>740913037
>>740913532Nintendo has many, many retarded patents such as a sanity system (which forced Amnesia devs to adapt their own system), characters looking at points of interest or basic physics systems like characters standing on and moving along with vehicles. Patent offices are just a joke in general and there should be some massive corruption probes on them.
>>740913687This guy is reminding me of a Nintendo Youtuber I see people pic on
>>740913737nigger you're the one who called me a sealioning cunt maybe don't reply insults for things you know nothing about
>>740913837Harman Smith? No he's way more based than me.
>>740913837was it the guy who keeps trying to advertise his shill books here constantly who also happens to also be a lolcow here?
>>740913891that fag is not based he can barely keep a job and had to nuke his own follower base because he had a meltdown one of his mods went rogue and banned everyone, now he sells copied 3d printed sculptures
>>740913891Wow...delusion is one hell of a drug huh buddy?
>>740913687>least buckbroken tendie
>>740905479God this makes me erect.
>>740905479
>>740911645Nintendo doesn't care if you make a game like Pokemon, because the Pokemon games don't really make that much money compared to the overall brand. The multmedia and merchandise earn orders of magnitude more money; like a factor of ten. Notice how they ignored Pocket Pair for like eight months and it wasn't until PP started branching into a multimedia agreement that the lawsuit came down? If you step on the ACTUAL source of Pokemon's revenue, Nintendo will find anything and everything they can to throw at you.
Tendie meltdown itt
>>740914359Nintendo is always abusive and slimy towards anything they see as competition, I guess it's just nip culture to build corporate mafias.
>>740906981It's a civil lawsuit, it's not part of the conviction rate boasted often by japan.
so does anyone know anything about the actual case or is this another thread comprised entirely of baseless gossip? the lawsuit was a stupid idea in the first place but seemingly no one knows what's actually happening
>>740904497Bros I want a switch 2 so fucking bad but I REFUSE to be jewed for 450 FUCKING DOLLARS!!!!!!!!
>>740914627The case is mostly private so we only get tidbits and analysis, this seems like the most solid info >>740906182
>>740904497Nintendo is a lawyer firm and movie producer now. They don't make games.
>>740904497>Nintendo tried to patent throwing balls
>>740913973Sounds based.
>>740914109You'll survive.
>>740913546Pokeman is literally directly based on Ultraseven's Capsule Monsters.
>>740912606Were they as good as you think, Palworld would've been nuked The Day Before style, and PocketPair would be long dead. Neither happened, and thus they have failed.
Palchuds desperately coping and pretending they're winning this lawsuit LMAO
>>740913334You ain't stopping shit. Hell, Nintendo were the ones who ripped off Atlus back in the day, yet you don't see them suing people for their SMT knockoffs.
>>740904719BaityBait
>>740913753They're buddies with REAL Yakuza, and have done cutthroat shit since the Meiji days.
>>740915215The negative attention and scrutiny nintendo got over their scummy practices was a net positive in the end, the director ordering a reexamination on a shitty patent is a very rare event and shows at least a tiny bit of goodwill, I doubt it would happen but it would be great if it led to a snowball effect of how much people are willing to tolerate patent trolling.
>>740904497karmic justice at its finest
>>740915215I disagree.
>>740916384Whatever helps you cope.
>>740915014Video games back then were all ripping off something, Nintendo won the Donkey Kong lawsuit because universal ripped off king kong from someone else and then claimed it was in the public domain, destroying their own argument. Even if that didn't happen it's obviously parody, just like how palworld, pokemon with guns, is obviously a fucking parody.Now its circled around to Nintendo being universal and playing the hypocrit, things are exclusive when it suits you and an obvious parody when you're the one making it but when other people do it it's infringing on copyright.Nintendo is pulling up the ladder behind them and the fans cheer as usual.
>>740907589They did reject some of their patents, in both US and Japan
>>740907224>Palworld obviously/blatantly copied Pokemon designsexamples?
Good, it should. If they can't compete with a product and would rather IP hoard concepts they deserve to lose. Copyright in and of itself is retarded, you should only be able to protect the actual direct labor you create yourself, not the very CONCEPT of your labor, but that's not what money wants, so whatever. At least the hubris is far enough that Nintendo's getting the law to strike back at them.
>>740911870>of which pocketpair literally admits guilt, because they fucking changed it as a result of the lawsuit.That's not how it works. You do that just in case the judge sides with them so that you don't get charged for extra damages.
>>740917062Proving my point
I'm STILL NOT going to play Palworld!
>ctrl+f youtube>46 resultsHoly samefag. You guys activated his schizoid mode
>>740917106How?
If it was nothing there wouldn't be so much seething and pretend obliviousness
>>740907527They can buy those ones because they're not real Nintendo stocks
>>740904497it should have been ME
>>740910493>multiple years long suit involving a whole team of top of the line of lawyers spanning multiple countries>200kNigger, what? This is 8 digits minimum, and that's just for lawyer fees.
>>740904497Foreverially Palitised, full lawsuit delisted... And enjoying it
>>740908637Anon, these "inventions" are fucking obvious to anyone with a brain. Fans have been making mockups of open world pokemon since the gamecube era.
>>740904719menow sit down and get a free lesson in "nintendo doesn't own everything"
>>740911250kekbtfo
>>740906981Civil proceedings are different from criminal proceedings in Japan, anon.
Arguing with a tendie is a complete waste of time. You're arguing with a zealot that worships an entity. It's like trying to convince a jeet that cow shit isn't holy, it's a complete exercise in futility.
>hourly snoy cope thread1.0 version
>>740911531NTA but this sentence doesn't even make any sense, ESLtendie.
>>740907687Imagine being so heavily invested in the corpo you worship that you actually believe a lawsuit involving them affects YOU.What causes this?Let's just cut to the chase. You're obviously a snoy if you harbor this mentality.
>>740918340Patents aren't protecting an "invention" they're protecting a procees so nobody does exactly what you do.
>game won't last a week>game is stolen assets>game is using ai>it won't pass 20k players>it won't pass 100k players>2million concurrent is nothing >it will be 0 in a week and everyone will refund>nintendo why aren't you doing anything make it stop>haha nintendo is suing them now they'll be gone in a month>why is 1.0 coming out this is all sony's faultlol
>>740904497Good. Nintendo deserves to get raped and gaped for being so shitty.
>>740911250You are so fucking autistic lmao
Nintendo is a paper tiger.
>>740904719Fritanga.
>>740909731XDD
>>740918965>already outsold every single pokemon game before 1.0palworld WON
>>740910290Not really.
>>740909731Have fun eating bags of dicks and crow.
>>740911195Love this pic.
>>740913196Muh youtuber poster is mindbroken. He will do this for literally 500+ posts.
>>740904719ASMR Boyfriend Treats You Rough In Bed
>>740917313He's having a meltdown, please understand. When low IQ individuals face non favorable news and their only excuse falls apart, instead of addapting and accepting reality, they always double down.
>>740918712You forgot>this single player early access game had the biggest player dropof in the freaking world (from 2.5 million to consistent 50.000-200.000 over the course of two years)
>>740919092And that pic is from like a year ago, btw.
How pathetic is it that ACfag and eric are actually backing the thieves at palworld? They are to he the most pathetic posters on this site.
>>740919380If Nintendo shared theirs Pokemon would win this time since they sell like 22M on 1 platform but the games die in 2 weeks.
We won.
>>740905278>exclusivesAre anti player. They are against gaming. They serve only to maximize profits for shareholders. Gamers who want consoles to have exclusives are a special breed of retarded, the proud slave.
Mmm he defaulted to his boogiemen, thread's done. He's cooked.
>>740911909you sound really young or really low iq
>>740919671Nintendo lost.
Frivolous litigation isn't meant to actually be won, it's meant to incur expensive legal fees against the target. EA has abused that trick for decades. Nintendo has deep pockets, the Palworld Indie dev studio do not (one of those guys worked at a fucking konbini for a dayjob), Nintendo wins by bankrupting them.
>>740919714Pretty sure pocketpair got some financial backing from sony for the lawsuit. And they still made a boatload of money from sales anyway. They can ride for a long while.
>>740919714Palworld sold like 20 million copies and has the backing of Sony and Microsoft. They are technically indie but have endless money, Nintendo dun goofed.
>>740919714Did a youtuber tell you this?
>>740906182Florian Muller is not licensed to practice law in Japan>Unlike the United States where most case files are publicly accessible by default, the majority of written complaints and case information in Japan are not made publicly available unless specific legal requirements are met>Under the Japanese Patent Act (Article 105-4), courts can restrict access to sensitive evidence (like trade secrets or source code) so that it is only used for the litigation
740919814There he goes again.
>>740919714I don't understand why the legal system doesn't adapt against obvious abuses like that, legal warfare is extremely common and harmful in basically any industry because the system itself just doesn't seem to give a fuck.
Imagine simping for a company like this.
>>740919829>Florian Mullerisn't this that fraud 'game consultant' that's just writing either ads or hit-pieces
>>740911195AAAAAAIEEEEEEEEE@NintendoAmerica@Pokemon@GAMEFREAK_info@FBI@CIA@JANNIES@POTUS@Avengers@Ghosbusters@gandalf the grey@gandalf the white@monty python's holy grail's black knight@benito mussolini@the blue meanie@cowboy curtis@jambi the genie@Robocop@Terminator@captainkirk@darthvader@lo-pan@superman@everysinglepowerranger@bill s preston@theodore logan@spock@the rock@doc ock@hulk hoganDO SOMETHING! LIGHTNING FAST!
>>740907635>>740908775>The USPTO issued a non-final rejection of all 26 claims for Nintendo’s controversial "sub-character summoning and battling" patent>This rejection is non-final. Nintendo has a two-month window (with the option of filing for extensions) to present counter-arguments and revive the patent claims>If a patent examiner issues a final rejection, you can appeal the adverse decision to the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB)>A three-judge panel will review the case and can affirm the rejection, reverse it, or enter a new ground of rejection. If you disagree with the PTAB's decision, you can further appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit or file a civil action
>>740920027Nice youtuber opinion.
>still being a consolewarfagging corpo simp in this, the year of our lord MMXXVI>still being a consolewarfagging corpo simp for the most creatively bankrupt, anti-consumer, slop-slinging, you'd-swear-it-was-run-by-jews-if-they-werent-obviously-japanese brand on the planet.
Lol.
>>740919791>MicrosoftPocketpair let microsoft plaster palworld over XBone to help sell it. I wouldn't know if Microsoft backs them legally. Sony Interactive Entetainment absolutely would since they have a joint media venture and I wouldn't be surprised if their lawyers are working together especially if there's an anime coming out.
Lmao
>>740919714Pocketpair is doing just fine. It's going to be so satisfying when Nintendo loses.
Heh
>>740904497
Jej
>>740919887Taking that as a "yes"
>>740920313I fucking hate Miyamoto for what he did to this man.
>>740920335>>740920282>>740920246>>740920182Post your AC6 playtime, sealiontranny. Oh wait, you don't play video games. Kys
>>740920313>mfw shillworld lost and contrarians btfo
>>740920473Post your hand next to your switch and a timestamp, rajesh
>>740920473Um, i played ace combat 6 like a decade ago, bro?
LOL
>>740920473what the fuck does Armored Core 6 have to do with Nintendo and Palworld thread?
>>740904497i can't believe tendietrannies actually thought nintendo owns gameplay mechanicstruly the most mentally ill cult in the entire gaming industry>>740905278>m-muh consolewar wuhhretarded shitskin
>>740920547Literally Lynchian.
>>740904719>>740908637which jew raped you when you were little?
>>740904497>B-B-BUT ASMONGOLD TOLD ME-Paltrannies are retarded
Fritanga plays and Nintendeen told me this.
>>740920597Kafkaesque
>>740920614>implying I hate Jews
>>740920473
>tendies were acting all smug about palworld being forced to shut down through lawsuits>got bodied HARD, more gamers start supporting palworld instead>even courts side with palworld>will get raped even harder when roco kingdom world and dokev release because those two are completely untouchable to shittendoi'm enjoying shittendo's downfalloh and gta 6 isn't releasing on shitch poo as welltendies were fucking adamant they were t-totally gonna get gta 6 lmfao
>>740920773Which youtuber told you this?
>>740905278Exclusivity is for retards. Corporations are riding you like the goycattle you are.
>>740915423Nintendo started as a company designing and selling hanafuda trading cards which were basically exclusively used by Yakuza gambling houses and many Yakuza had tattoos with Nintendo designs, during a period when those products were outright banned so it's not like they even had a good presumption of innocence. Nintendo has always been very close to an actual criminal syndicate and simply adapted their business tactics, and it's also why current Nintendo is so sheepish about its own history.
>>740920802which jew raped you when you were little?
>he keeps doubling downLmao. The bot broke
>>740920829It's getting to you lol
The juggernaut success of the switch and switch 2 are the biggest prolonged nonstop assfucking snoys and pcfaggots and paltards have ever endured.And now they are coping as nintendo prepares to deliver the killing blow to these chinese thieves.
>>740920642You lost and got raped by a youtuber lol
>>740920850yea, i'm quickly learning why you are like thisa jew raped you and you loved it
>>740920862le lost a lawsuit against a mexican grocery store faec
>mfw Nintendo wins the lawsuit
>>740914359They probably took so long to sue bc they were applying for patents to use in their lawsuit. Nothing in the lawsuit even had anything to do with multimedia franchising. I think the reason they sued was the resemblance to pokemon, and the fact that it effectively proved there is a market for high-budget monster collectors besides pokemon. We are just now starting to see the ripple effects of palworlds' success, which is a deluge of chinese pokemon games that will start to eat into pokemon's market share bit by bit.
>>740907589>>740908775Negro, THE LAWSUIT IS IN JAPAN. Anything regarding Nintendo filing patents in the US (completely unrelated to Palworld) has zero bearing on the lawsuit IN JAPAN. Nintendo has owned the patents used in the lawsuit for years.You don't even understand what "patent trolling" means. Nintendo never used the 26 patents they recently filled in the US against anyone.This is the actual fucking level of understanding, awareness and logical thinking Paltards have. How embarrassing.
>>740920975Nintendo was granted the patents before Palworld ever launched.I know Paltrannies just make shit up with what their feefees tell them and think law works based on gut feeling, but you can just look it the dates.
>>740921045It's just ACfag. As usual he is clueless about whatever ge obsesses over.
>>740920975Nintendo sued because palworld existing makes them look bad, they just grabbed whatever they thought would be most successful in court
>>740921045This is a retarded argument, the lawyers can draw their arguments from patents filed in the US If you're filing patents in bad faith globally they'll show that as proof of copyright misuse and the judge will take that into consideration.
>>740921045How does any of that change the fact the patents are obviously bogus? The only reason why they were even approved is because nintendo is a criminal syndicate and patent examiners are corrupt and retarded. The obviousness/bogusness of the patents is obvious if you read them and are remotely familiar with games.Dunno what 26 patents you're sperging about and the reply chain is talking about that one patent that was retroactively rejected recently, are you being confused about the difference between claims and patents?As for the lawsuit in particular, nintendo's position is extremely weak and even in a best case situation for them they get nothing of value since their initial (bogus) claim has been severely diminished.
Unbelievable, so basically you can copy whatever you like and the courts will protect you...
>>740919913Yeah it's almost like the system profits immensely off of lawfare like that
>>740904497>thread with links and explaining that nintendo had to adjust the lawsuit to only target previous versions of palworld so now an injunction on the IP is completely impossible>archived with single digit replies>oh no no no nintensisters how could this happen to us?>300+ replies and still goingI swear you faggots are the most retarded gorilla niggers on the face of this earth
>>740921045>>740921237>>740921152>retards really believe nintendo will reward them if they dickride their lawsuit lmao like fagatron this is for pokemon why tf are you defending that shithole of a franchise which is only carried by its sells in merch
>>740920787arent there hundreds of games that did this before?
>all the Famitsu schizo posts show up at the same timeLiterally one person.
>>740904497Good. Fuck them. Maybe now they'll put more effort in Pokemon games.
>>740921045Of course they didn't they never got chance to before they were shot down by applying in the US they can stop Pocket pair before they even begin and have already failed.
Nintendo just got used to everybody sucking off them off that they genuinely believed their own hype.
>>740904497oh no say it aint so, nintendo why how could you fail your fans like this.
>>740921237>Nintendo invented balls
>>740921696LMAO!
>>740921617Tendies suffer from magical thinking and believe that nintendo suing Pocketpair means pokemon will somehow absorb Palworld's energy and become as good as it like some short of shonen anime.
>>740921664Thr patent is describing basic physics.
>>740921764Yeah, I think I was too optimistic here.
>>740921695It's pretty obvious, he always uses the same tardo-tactics, reaction images and calls you eric, acfag, and whatever other spooks he has in his head. Massive spammer and massively retarded, I suspect he has a couple of orbiters from the famitsu circlejerk but he always sticks out.
What I don't understand is the need to patent mechanics. Even if two games have the same mechanics, the one with more quality and popularity will always win, with popularity being more important than quality itself. From the 5th to the 7th generation of consoles, it wasn't uncommon to see tons of games that were copy-pasted from each other, and what always dominated were the most well-known ones, and those with, for example, better stories (the ones that come to mind were the Call of Duty and Gears of War clones; almost all of them went unnoticed). I would understand those patents if it were to prevent someone from suing you. EA, which is a terrible company, has its patents, and as far as I know, they've never sued anyone over them.
>>740921791that is an excerpt, not the entire 'patent'to be more clear, it's a singular illustration from a probably ~20 page document as described by a most likely layman
>>740921884Patents were initially to protect inventors and allow them to profit from their creation. In practice, they're really just another weapon for those at the top to get what they want.
>>740921963Shut the fuck up.Nintendo invented and owns source engine 2 physics.
>>740921884Massive companies with money to throw around have always been on a constant legal shitshow against each other, there were no "better times" since the very concept of patents itself is to promote monopolies, the first patent act in the west was literally called the Statute of Monopolies.
>>740922005sure, all because of a single picturethat's how easy it is, and that's how patents work inside that rotten melon you call a noggin maybe
>>740906182Are the>Throw Palsphere to capture>Throw Palsphere to summonmechanics back?If not then that doesn't seem like a win to Pocketpair...
>>740921993We're talking about "concepts," not even something real. Patenting like this and using patents to screw people over and sue is honestly awful and defeats the purpose of what it's really meant for: helping people with a revolutionary idea so it doesn't get stolen by some lousy company.
>>740922079The trailer girl was doing the aphere throw summoning in the 1.0 trailer.
>>740922079It happens in the cinematic trailer for 1.0 at least.
>>740922106The modern patent system started as a circlejerk between english royalty and rich bureaucrats, it was never about fairness.
>>740922138>>740922139Nice, might come back for 1.0 then
>>740921764Such sovl...
>>740920652no meat touching?
I just boughted palworld
>>740911195Ever noticed how nintendo marketers are always using the same waifus to hide the new fire emblem being pure black propaganda?
>>740921152They applied for the child patents after palworld launched, this is an easily searchable and verifiable fact.
>>740921045>>You don't even understand what "patent trolling" means. Nintendo never used the 26 patents they recently filled in the US against anyone.Because Nintendo got bitch slapped first like the little bitches they are lamo
>>740921152They retroactively filed for patents after palworld came out you nintendick riding faggot.
>>740922368
>add a snek loli>get millions of salesIt was that easy all along.
Nintentranniggers seething and malding.
>>740906182>nintendo's litigation expensesI havent seen anything about them retaining outside counsel, what a fucking slop article. Kill yourself palshill
tendies getting their rightfully deserved humiliation
>>740922946seething drone
>>740922967I accept your admission of shilling
>>740920473There's an Animal Crossing 6?????
>>740905278You're not the one winning lolYou're not Nintendo, you're some random bystander on the internet
Tendies gwtting RAPED and GAPED, LMAO!
>>740923176kill you're self you fucking palsnoy
>you'reuh oh tendie meltie!
looking forward to seeing how palkeks are going to justify the designers ripping off monster hunter designes now
>>740923424They lost and got raped by Nintendo in the end.
>>740923424delete this i fuck you're mother bloody bitch basterd
fatty cultie tentie tranny melty!
>>740923424>I'm not against emulation or piracy, but don't you DARE hurt my precious nintendoJesus fuck that comment is physically painful to read
>>740923482To be fair taking donations and showing people how to hack their own Switches probably didn't help their case.
>>740923424holy kek
>>740909247so these arent bogus aswell?
>>740923424>>740923473which youtuber told you that?
Xhe is still going.
>>740920862>The juggernaut success of the switch and switch 2
>>740922138>>740922139Holy fuck nice.
>>740923282
The console wars never really ended, did they?
>>740911645Pokemon doesn't have an artstyle autistic bro.They keep swapping it up since gen2. It's incoherent and inconsistent. You show an older gen Pokemon but the fact is they aren't making them like that anymore. You faggots call anyone calling this shit out a "genwunner" to stay in denial.
>>740925296is this a console war? one corp putting its entire law divisionon a case to crush a single game dev?
>>740925684inb4 palsnoy autistic screeching
>>740925684Sony, and maybe microsoft, are backing the lawsuit for pocket pair's side so it's not entirely irrelevant.
>>740925684And failing miserably.
>>740925767
I hope palworld wins. I don't think it's a good game; it's survival open world slop. But if Nintendo is this intimidated by it, they might be forced to give a shit with modern Pokémon and I might actually play one since white 2.
>>740919918This isn't real, but if it was it would be based as fuck.
>>740926062LOL, expect pokeshart to become a carbon copy of palworld but shitty.
>>740926102isn't that already the case? I don't play pokemon, but I see active battles where the trainer dodge rolls like a souls game
>>740926208Anon, that was in PLA, a game that was revealed and released before Palworld.
>>740926208Yeah and it fucking sucked ass, the new pokemon games will try to be more like Palworld but fail because they lack base building and gunplay.
>>740925781Anon, Nintendo pushed them to remove the mechanics. That's a definitive win.
>>740926362ZA was after Palworld.
>>740926380So they aren't trying to be anything like Palworld, are they.
>>740926426We're talking about Legends Arceus, the game these mechanics were made for.Not ZA.
>>740926396Remove deez nuts from your mouth, palworld being a PC Chad game can get those features back with mods.Ultimately they might return for 1.0 if the trailer is anything to go by.
>>740926362Legends arceus was actually revealed after palworld had its own reveal.
>>740926445They will try but they fail, pokemon games can only be for little gay babies.
>>740926542I don't want any doctors touching my gay baby
>>740926472Same shit.
>>740926498I meantLegends was released* after palworld had its reveal.
>>740925296>the pr folks never stopped posing as consumers and are still posting here aren't theycorrect.
>>740926787Anon, Legends was revealed before Palworld was. If I remember right it was revealed on Pokemon Day in February while Palworld was during E3 so even then PLA was still before Palworld.Also another adjacent fun fact, none of the mechanics that they were sued for showed up in the original trailer. I mean that much is obvious since the whole thing was mostly prerendered anyway while PLA was just straight gameplay.
>>740926486>Ultimately they might return for 1.0 if the trailer is anything to go by.If they're retuning in 1.0 that's because they changed them. That's how that works.The articles are wording it as if Nintendo reduced their scope but they have a full on injunction against them using them meaning they can't use the mechanics until the lawsuit is settled. That also proves what everyone has been telling retarded Palworld fans in the first place that patents are1) about the function, not concept2) are piss easy to get around because of how specific they are
>>740928434>that's because they changed them. That's how that works.Ball throwing is returning in 1.0. You can stop coping now.
>>740920862>Console warring cope out of nowhereTopkek he mad.
>>740928434>but they have a full on injunction against them using them meaning they can't use the mechanics until the lawsuit is settled.>1.0 release trailerSo that means the lawsuit ended in Palworld's favor. Welp.
>>740928274>Anon, Legends was revealed before Palworld was.Yeah, that's why I corrected my previous post.>none of the mechanics that they were sued for showed up in the original trailer.If you are referring to pocketpair here, a mounting/gliding on creatures was actually shown in the first trailer for palworld and it is one of the patent nintendo is using.
>game threads are just going to be endless retarded consolenigger wars>shit doesn't even have a fucking /vg/ general so if I was willing to accept blogposting and avatarfagging in exchange for schizophrenic nintendo screeching I couldn't
>>740928924We had 5 500+ threads here over the past week. Nintendo and gamefreak lost.
>>740928924>>shit doesn't even have a fucking /vg/ generalThey moved to >>>/vm/
>>740928434>1) about the function, not conceptso you've repeated, without at any point clarifying why it's unfair to describe it as a "ball-throwing patent" in the same way as crazy taxi's "arrow-pointing patent" and bamco's "loading screen minigame patent"
Console wars are the same thing as fighting over your favorite football team.
I genuinely dont understand what they were expecting>we invented these things before >no you didn't >we have patents predating this >no you don't >It's unfair competition and making we lose money>by every definition it is, but for your side. You literally sell cardboard It just sounds like a hissy fit more and more
>>740928580It's almost as if the problem wasn't ball throwing but the mechanic behind ball throwing.
>>740931692Shut the fuck up, boot licker
>>740931692If it's just the mechanic then nintendo doesn't really have grounds for its patent.
>>740931692And it's clearly not a problem anymore if they're putting it back in, wouldnt you agree?
>>740929495NTA but everyone has explained it you're just too retarded to get it.The idea is just throwing a ball, there's nothing else there. The mechanic is HOW the ball is thrown so how it's done in Red and Blue isn't the same thing as Arceus because one is just a simple animation with 3 rolls of RNG to determine capture while the other requires three different inputs to enter an aiming mode, launch a physics based object and then it rolls the RNG three times.
>>740922079Yuuuup.Nintendo lost both of those patents so Palworld was sure to put it on display in the trailers.
>>740931848Patents ONLY pertain to mechanics anon. That's how they work, it's not copyright.>>740931852Yes, because they changed the mechanic. That's the point. The kept the concept of ball throwing because that was never an issue.
>>740931692Holy fuckin cope Nintendo literally got their ball patent thrown in the garbage you subhuman
>>740931926The patent isn't about that. It's about summoning from a distance using projectile. This has been done before pokemon patented it.
>>740922079Wait, do you not summon/capture with the palsphere anymore? I have not played since it was new. How the fuck does the game work now then.
>>740922079Yeah, they had to overhaul it so it wouldn't infringe on Nintendo's patent.
>>740932068>Yes, because they changed the mechanic.>changed the mechanic>you still throw balls >you still summon creatures with them>you still capture creatures with them>the flimsy patent Nintendo had where they claimed they owned these was declared null and void wow kill yourself anytime
>>740932113No they just removed throwing to summon and it wasn't required by the courts yet anyway.
>>740920787wacky races on suicide watch
>>740932092They only removed throwing to summon and pal gliders.
>>740932352>pal glidersthe fak did that have to do with pokemon games? or did that "steal" from zelda
>>740929994>sounds like a hissy fit more and moreWhen in the history of the universe has Nintendo had a legal case that wasnt them shitting themselves and throwing a fit like the babies they are?
>>740932068>Patents ONLY pertain to mechanics anon.But specifically summoning a character by throwing an object that releases the character into the field vs summoning a character in some other way would be different patents.Nintendo basically twisted itself into a pretzel just to get the patents to not get cancelled but it's ultimately playing against them since sidestepping the issue is entirely trivial, as palworld as shown.
>>740932083>It's about summoning from a distance using projectileThat wasn't what they were being sued for by the way, they're being sued for three different patents and none of them are that.Anyway, that's still the concept and not the mechanic. The mechanic is about how many buttons need to be pressed, what the buttons do, how it interacts with other objects and so on and so forth, that's why patents are so detailed it covers every little function and interaxfion that they thought of.It isn't that hard to understand. I mean, if you can understand that a gun and a bow and arrow aren't the same thing but both launch projectiles you can understand this.
>>740932435And they still lost the patent anyway
>>740920787How do you patent basic physics
>>740932401No, they have a patent for the concept of summoning a creature you've captured and using it to either ride or hang under to glide.
>>740932068>because they changed the mechanicIn what way? You're still throwing a ball in an arc to capture a monster and you're throwing a ball in an arc to release it.Wont you explain your point further?
>>740932493>That wasn't what they were being sued for by the way, they're being sued for three different patents and none of them are that.The patents aren't what they were being sued for at all. The patents were made as a means to enhance the lawsuit after it had already been set in motion. They are ultimately being sued simply because Game Freak "felt" like they were being unfairly competed with.
>>740932623Basic physics don't naturally apply in the digital world so that's somewhat understandable, though dubious whether nintendo really should be granted this patent.
>>740932659See >>740932493If you physically aim (you arc them like nades) the ball then its a differnent mechanic. Patents are explicity not boiled down "press buttons to win game"
>>740932435>But specifically summoning a character by throwing an object that releases the character into the field vs summoning a character in some other way would be different patents.Correct. But Pocketpair are being sued because they didn't do the latter and instead copied Nintendo's execution of the idea.>Nintendo basically twisted itself into a pretzel just to get the patents to not get cancelled but it's ultimately playing against them since sidestepping the issue is entirely trivialThat's thing problem, it's trivial but Pocketpair didn't do it, they just straight up copied and infringed on their patent as they always do.>>740932516Which is also wrong, the USPTO is attempting to block their patents in the west but that's entirely irrelevant to a case that's happening in Japan since patents are regional, not international.In Japan they still have the main patents that they're suing for but what they attempted to block were the branching patents made to separate each claim. Ultimately it's a fruitless endeavour to even try to block those since it doesn't affect the main patent or the case not to mention Nintendo could always appeal it.
>>740932730>The patents aren't what they were being sued for at all. The patents were made as a means to enhance the lawsuit after it had already been set in motionAnon the patents were filed three years before Palworld released and before they even showed them in actual gameplay footage.What are you even talking about right now?
Stocks in freefall, humiliated in court by steam shovelware and setting a precedent for everyone else to clown on Nintendo, Switch 2 price hike and sales failing, ESG censorship, "new" games are either toddler slop or demakes by outsourced westoid THOSE MEN... yikes, a rough time to be a Nintendog
>>740932627guild wars 2 on suicide watch
>>740932770They didn't shit though and it looks like the courts agreed.
>>740932770>That's thing problem, it's trivial but Pocketpair didn't do it, they just straight up copied and infringed on their patent as they always do.Not really. The patent for summoning stuff by nintendo was applied for in july 2024 and granted two months later.Palworld released in january that year, so unless pocketpair was supposed to look into the future, I doubt they voluntarily infiringed on a later patent.
>>740919953outstanding
>>740909518Pocketpair is Japanese, afaik.
>>740932826>Stocks in freefall, Their stocks are stablizing.>humiliated in court by steam shovelwareTheyve reached a point where they've effectively won with Pocketpair launching 1.0 with altered mechanics. >and setting a precedent for everyone else to clown on NintendoThey're winning anon, even most journalists have accepted that and pivoted their narrative to saying that Nintendo lost because they will only get 30k which was what they sued them for from the start.>and sales failing If you really want to look at sales then you better not look at the Famitsu charts because they're still selling fairly well especially for a period with no new releases. >Switch 2 – 23.059 (5.888.272)>PlayStation 5 – 8.646 (7.591.608)If I remember right they also sold more in the UK and US last month.You can cry as much as you want but the facts will still exist.
OH NO NO NO NO PFFFFTTTTHAHAHAHAHAHAnintendogs what went wrong?
>>740933107Nintendo won by palworld releasing and keeping 99% of the content and Nintendo downgrading their lawsuit to only be relevant towards a version of the game thats not even available anymore?Goddamn nintendies are something else
>>740933035>The patent for summoning stuff by nintendo was applied for in july 2024 and granted two months later.In America which is irrelevant to the conversation because this is a lawsuit happening in Japan where it was filed in 202. It was also originally filed in 2022, rejected and then approved in 2024 in America and patents go back to the original filing date, rejections don't change that.>Palworld released in january that year, so unless pocketpair was supposed to look into the future, I doubt they voluntarily infiringed on a later patent.They did, they're a Japanese developer that infringed on a game that showed these mechanics about two years before they showed that they had it in their game and the patents were published there in 2023.It also doesn't help that they had to redo the game halfwag through development.
>>740933243Yes, Nintendo won by achieving their goal of blocking their patents from being used in Palworld forcing them to, for once in their development career, to be creative.That was their objective otherwise they would have sued them for millions instead of 30k which both companies can shrug off.
>>740932627>nintendo owns world of warcraft mountsHow the fuck is this allowed?
>>740933289>where it was filed in 202.Excuse me, 2021
>>740933108>Nintendo may only get exactly what they were asking for, IP expert says I mean, yeah?
>>740933458>nintendo spent upwards of 50 million dollars because they wanted to protect unenforcable patent and not because they wanted to patent troll a competitor to bankruptcyOkay.
>>740904719>Here's how Nintendo can still win!!
>>740933107>30k which was what they sued them for from the startYou got a source on that?>Pocketpair launching 1.0 with altered mechanics.They're bringing back one of the biggest things GF managed to take away with the release update.>nooo the patent wasn't over the entire concept of having and throwing capture balls!It was worded in such a way that Nintendo could use it as grounds to sue pretty much anyone who tried to have a "throw projectile to capture enemy" system.>create projectile aimed by player reticle>fling at enemy>run collision checks until the enemy and projectile come into contact or don't>run function that [damages/attempts to capture] enemyWhat they patented is one step removed from the entire concept of a throwing weapon in a video game.
>>740933289>In America which is irrelevant to the conversationNo, they are jp patents. The us patents were part of the slew of patent filed in 2025, most of which were later rejected a few months ago.
Pocket pair and Palworld won!
>>740933542>to protect unenforcable patentClearly it is enforceable if they're on the cusp of winning the case.
>>740933951Not really seeing how pocketpair won.
>>740933951They're on thr cusp of losing it actually. Ball throwing to summon is back
>>740933951>they're on the cusp of winning the case.How do you figure? Nothing of the trial has leaked in months and copyright analysts are basically saying the judgement will be a coin toss that at best for nintendo will achieve nothing except be a waste of everyone's money on lawyers.
>>740906445Not really? The patent only goes after sales made in Japan, and Japan didn't buy a lot of Palworld. China did.
>>740933637>You got a source on that?https://patentlawyermagazine.com/gotta-catch-em-all-an-update-on-the-nintendo-pocketpair-lawsuit/Here's a link from 2024 stating that they wanted 5m yen, converted that's about 30k. So we've known that from the start.>They're bringing back one of the biggest things GF managed to take away with the release update.Yeah, it's almost as if they altered it so it doesn't infringe on the patent.This isn't a copyright case, this is a patent case, it's all about functionality. You can change something minuscule and still get away with it just like when Sega failed to sue over Simpson road rage because it was just barely different from their version. >It was worded in such a way that Nintendo could use it as grounds to sue pretty much anyone who tried to have a "throw projectile to capture enemy" system Not how patents work. You're treating it as if it's copyright when the reality it that it has to be almost exactly the same and not just any throwable projectile. Detail is the bread and butter of patent law, how did you think you would lie about that? >create projectile aimed by player reticle>fling at enemy>run collision checks until the enemy and projectile come into contact or don't>run function that [damages/attempts to capture] enemyNote how you haven't actually said anything about the mechanic. You're doing the equivalent of describing the outside of a car while saying you're describing the action of combustion and the reactions taking place in a traditional engine.
>>740933342>blocking their patents from being used in PalworldThe patent they made after palworld was out? Pure cope.Nintendo sued them for "making a pokemon with guns", everything afterwards has been backtracking to get something out of it, Palworld won.
>>740921664They weren't Palworld so they don't count
>>740919178Of course you do, stealing memes targeting your isle and rebranding them against your opposition has always been a great sport for your likes.
>>740933725>they are jp patentsAnon, the JP patents were filed in 2021.You're talking about the American patents.This is one of the ones we're talking about https://www.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/c1801/PU/JP-2023-092953/11/en>filed 2021>published 2023
>>740934350>Here's a link from 2024 stating that they wanted 5m yen, converted that's about 30k. So we've known that from the start.The article also helpfully confirms that the Japanese patents DID all get filed after Palworld came out, and that Nintendo's likely goal with the suit was to slow Palworld development to a halt to remove Game Freak's "competition".>they altered it so it doesn't infringe on the patentThe goal of the patent was to make sure that Palworld didn't have anything that worked like Pokeballs even at a glance, and it has now failed at that.>b-but they changed the function!!! they changed it!!!!!!!Yeah they did.>Sega failed to sue over Simpson road rage because it was just barely different from their version.And the *intent* of Sega patenting the crazy taxi arrow was to try and keep the feature exclusively to themselves. The fact that they failed the same way Nintendo is currently failing doesn't help your case, it helps mine.>it has to be almost exactly the same and not just any throwable projectileThe only similarity beyond "thrown projectile" is the generic idea of a projectile that tries to capture rather than damage the enemy on contact.>you haven't actually said anything about the mechanicThe mechanic is the throwing of a projectile and running of a "check capture rate" function when it hits successfully.
>>740934707>>740934693The timing here couldn't have been any better
>>740932747>If you physically aim (you arc them like nades) the ball then its a differnent mechanicYou mean like how it was when Nintendo filed the lawsuit?
>>740934693They were appended to an earlier 2021 "omnibus" patent but all the patent used in suing palworld were granted in 2024.That's the kind of legal trickery that makes people rightfully not trust nintendo.
>>740934707>The article also helpfully confirms that the Japanese patents DID all get filed after Palworld came out,Which we've established is about the American patents which doesn't have anything to do with this since they're suing them with japanese patents and as you can see here >>740934693They were filed the same year Palworld was revealed, not when it was released. >The goal of the patent was to make sure that Palworld didn't have anything that worked like Pokeballs even at a glance, and it has now failed at that.No, no it wasn't. Goal of the lawsuit was to remove their patented mechanics from the game, not to remove the balls. The concept of a ball doesn't have anything to do with this which is why anyone and everyone can and has used that concept you'll see it in solid chunk of monster tamers and even games that reference pokemon like binding of isaac.>Yeah they did.And changing the function means it doesn't infringe which was Nintendo's goal.>The fact that they failed the same way Nintendo is currently failing doesn't help your case, it helps mine.So you're saying that Sega successfully got them to rework the mechanic and the only people saying that they failed are people like you who put feelings before facts? Because I don't think that's how that went.>The only similarity beyond "thrown projectile" is the generic idea of a projectile that tries to capture rather than damage the enemy on contact.Sure.Except the entire mechanic functioned in the exact same way down to the amount of inputs required and times RNG was rolled to determine capture.>The mechanic is the throwing of a projectile No, that's the concept. The mechanic is how that concept is carried out, the inner workings so to speak.
>>740934774So either the article I was linked explaining how Nintendo only ever wanted 30k outright lied about when the patents came to be, or this is meant to be deceptive in some capacity. It seems like several 2023 and 2024 patents were appended to one made in 2021, at a glance.
>>740934939>They were appended to an earlier 2021 "omnibus" patentWhich again is irrelevant, they're being sued in Japan with these patents filed in 2021 and published in 2023.>That's the kind of legal trickery that makes people rightfully not trust nintendo.It's not legal trickery you're just being tricked by journalists.
>>740935228>So either the article I was linked explaining how Nintendo only ever wanted 30k outright lied about when the patents came to be, or this is meant to be deceptive in some capacityWhat happened was that Pocketpair posted the American versions of the patents on their site saying>this is what they're suing us for!And every journalist took that as fact ignoring that those were the American patents.They also didn't say that there's a strict two year wait on patent approval so it's just a case of the truth being hidden from people who won't do the research.
>>740935352>What happened was that Pocketpair posted the American versions of the patents on their site sayingCan you link the site where they did that?
Why are palsnoys ao emotionally invested in this? The only time your shovelware Skinner box is even remembered is when you’re desperately trying to shitpost against other more successful ips
>>740935230>these patents filed in 2021 and published in 2023.No, that is the omnibus patent about general game mechanics which did not contain the mechanics used to sue palworld until they were added in mid 2024. I don't have a clearer way of saying it.
>>740935443It's on their site from a while back. Unfortunately I'm running short on time but it isn't that hard to find.
>>740935494That's okay, you can take your time to prove your point
>>740935472>which did not contain the mechanics used to sue palworld until they were added in mid 2024.Don't try lying anon.
>>740935526As if this thread is going to be here when I get back.
>>740935558Again, you are conflating the dates of the omnibus with the specific patents used to sue palworld.
>>740935172>Goal of the lawsuit was to remove their patented mechanics from the gameThe goal was to get an injunction to stop sales and shut Palworld down. I dont know why you're trying to defend Nintendo so hard when they put this lawsuit into action right before the PS4/5 release.>And changing the function means it doesn't infringe which was Nintendo's goalsee >>740934795
>>740935621Anon, you are aware that you can't expand the scope of a patent after the fact, right? You can only reduce it meaning those patents would have had to have been there from the start.
>>740935715>The goal was to get an injunction to stop sales and shut Palworld downThe injunction was on the mechanics, not the game.
>>740935172>Which we've established is about the American patentsOh, so the article completely misunderstood what patents were involved but was 100% accurate about Nintendo's goals with the lawsuit? Sure thing buddy. Sure thing.>Goal of the lawsuit was to remove their patented mechanics from the gameThe patents were made after Nintendo decided they wanted a lawsuit. Even if we use your date for when they were filed that's after they knew Palworld was coming. So the intent of the lawsuit wasn't to enforce a patent, the intent of the patent was to back up a lawsuit.>anyone and everyone can and has used that concept you'll see it in solid chunk of monster tamers and even games that reference pokemon like binding of isaac.Because Nintendo didn't view those as real threats to Pokémon's success. For whatever reason, they viewed Palworld as such.>So you're saying that Sega successfully got them to rework the mechanicSega unsuccessfully attempted to make every game directly comparable with theirs worse to play. The intent was not that they thought the arrow was super unique and wanted to protect it, but to strike out at potential competition.>b-but you're just going by your feelings!!!Patenting game mechanics is never done out of an earnest belief that your ability to make money hinges on that mechanic being exclusive to you.>Except the entire mechanic functioned in the exact same way down to the amount of inputs required"Amount" of inputs? What, did you once try to argue that it was the same inputs and get BTFO?Holding a button to activate a reticle to aim a projectile is generic, as is the idea of a projectile with gravity. Where is the specific idea that was infringed upon?
>>740906182>spend hundreds of thousands if not millions in legal proceedings>get nothingmy fucking sides
>>740935848Right, so it's just a coincidence they tried to stop the game from being sold right before a major worldwide console release.You still havent answered my question btw. Or should I take that as a tacit admission that Nintendo never had a case?
>>740919814kek
must.... protect..... multi..... billion.... dollar..... company....
>>740936039>BUT DA THIEVES!!!!!!!Multibillion dollar company has produced dogshit for 10+ years, it's not "theft" to prove the concept of a monster catcher isn't at fault
>>740935782That is why I called the 2021 patent an "omnibus". It's a widereaching patent that opens itself to numerous appendices that is somewhat vague enough to allow it.If the mechanics used to sue palworld were already in the initial 2021 patent, why did nintendo feel to need to file subpatents in 2024 and use those for the lawsuit instead of the initial 2021 patent directly?
>>740935782>patent after the fact, right?Which is why they are losing this and why notpokeballs are back in Palworld. Nintendo tried doing exactly that
https://x.com/Palworld_EN/status/2065418985873576281?s=20
>>740936375Damn, that's some really dirty bitrate at the start of the vid.
>>740936694Might get a youtube trailer later. But fuk that. Who THIS?!
>>740936768Sex creature number 124 or something.
They fly now
