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Mirin' the view edition
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>>741056242
has anyone remade the gothic 2 picture of 'you should play the greatest rpg ever made' but in this game?
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>>741056242
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did they keep the kino soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnA83hFFb5Y
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>>741056315
cool armor..how do i get that?
hmm, these armors should be ported over to skyrim desu.
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>>741056242
I'm half way through chapter 5, and wolf still hasn't showed up with my minecrawler armor yet. I got so pissed off I went and killed every inside the old camp, and have magic ore armor, and inos's rage.
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>>741056398
wolf from chapter 4. it's busted for me
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>>741051994
Yee cuh - can't break the law if you don't have laws niqquh
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>>741056375
they are really similar but sound worse, some of them are shit tier
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This game feels like anti exploring bc every mfs outside of the camp two shots me and it takes it 5 to 7 hits to kill(impossible)
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>>741056301
You will be remade by the power of my fat fuckmeat. I see you shivering on my thick quivering rod, turning your insides into a white mush but you keep going even as it runs red with blood. Good thing this is your bedroll, not mine, I wouldn't sleep in that fuckwater but you love it. You wake up with my cum in your hair and everyone knows what happened, as if they didn't already hear you screaming and gasping all night long. But they know that's what life is like in the colony. I give you some ore and some bugmeat to wash it down and you beg me for more, asking when you can service my thick hog again, offering to do it for free next time. But I tell you no, if you want my cock again you'll be paying me for the privilege.
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>>741056315
where is wolf after you commission it?
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>+1 str pot in Lee's room
>+2 str pot in Gomez's room
another L for the n*w camp thugs
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>>741056480
deserve it for being gay
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>>741056512
you never use pots until you 100 you retarded newb
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>you want to max out your stats
take your fucking rings and amulets off first
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>>741056242
>500k sold
We're getting a G2 remake aren't we boys?
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How the fuck does telekinesis work

I cast the scroll at this guy and nothing happens
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fire mage or water mage?
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>>741056686
I figured it out. My mana was too low to use the scroll, didn't know scrolls consumed mana
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>>741056480
You're just meant to explore old camp first. You were just a bank assistant or some shit yesterday, got to level up a few times before you can take on the rape chickens.

Or git gud
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>>741056941
If you were to describe yourself as a person, would you say you are more of a fire person or a water person?
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Whoever decided to put locked chests underwater needs to be tied up and slurped on.
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>>741057316
I'm an Aquarious, INTJ. What the fuck do you think fool
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>>741057331
Is there more than one? I've only found one in the new camp lake. I thought it was kindof funny.

That's one of the few I'm bound and determined to crack. Just not today lmao
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>>741056547
God knows why they didn't just patch this shit out. What's worse is they didn't patch out rings count which makes no fucking sense as the game knows your base and current strength.
There's zero reason a trainer can't take you to 100 while wearing a boosting item.
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>>741057369
So you are gay
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>>741057369
Oh, then fire mage.
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>>741057437
by patch out I mean chugging a + item shouldn't count towards the NPC training cap.
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>>741057491
You've got a patch coming because I want you to keep your pants on while I force my throbbing cock into your asshole from behind. I want you to stand in front of me and try to pretend everything's normal while you're working the register in the gas station. I'm towering over you, standing behind you, while I penetrate you fucking raw. Before long I'm not even moving, you press your ass back against me, softly and slightly at first trying to maintain appearances so the customers can't tell you're being anally devastated while you ring up their gatorade and beef jerky, but before long you lose your composure and dedicate your entire large intestine to pleasuring my large tool, lost in the act and abandoning all decency. Customers recoil in horror as your tongue hangs out and your ram your ass back onto my throbbing member again and again and again, before I finally push you face down onto the counter and begin to climax, shouting while you gasp and moan. Just before I bust a nut bigger than you can possibly hold inside you your flailing arms hit the register and the cash drawer flies open, scattering coins all over the floor and money, caught by the draft from the ceiling fan begins to drift about airborne while I dump a full gallon into your ruined asshole and you collapse to the ground, laying on a mess of coins while the cash drifts down and covers your body
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>hear something behind me, it's REAL close
>start swinging before I move my camera, it dies in a few hits
>it was this
damn near scared the crap out of my pants, I'll tell you whut
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>just started
>getting murdered by everything in 2 hits
>can't find armor anywhere
>getting mafia'd into paying protection money or getting jumped by every cunt in the area
yeahhhh it's gaming time mf
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>>741057818
Huh what u mean
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>>741057917
armor is a status symbol it's not laying around waiting for you to pick it up.
And even when you do get it you need to upgrade it (around 1000 ore) for it to be decent.
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>>741057437
>>741057818
I'm the anon you responded to and I found a massive glitch. I was selling everything to the new camp water mages. even my 0 worth trophy metarlials, and I some how gained 147 swamp camp warp stones. lol
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>>741057437
>There's zero reason a trainer can't take you to 100 while wearing a boosting item.
I've never played a game that separates the base stat and the amount if has been boosted, in terms of leveling up to a maximum cap. If they were separated to base value and added value forming the actual total value, you would never have to hoard the potions or fruits or whatever items any given game has for permanent stat boosting.
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Gothic Remake taste so fun when u ain't got a brown person in ya ear telling you it's nasty
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>>741058152
Kek it finna do be like dat my diggas
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>>741058152
brown people will never touch this game. It has no instant gratification
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>>741057437
>>741058057
I'll take a steam screen shot it anyone doesn't believe me
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>>741058152
you don't see color in this game. you just see red. take a bath
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>>741056242
I'm downloading it right now. What build/camp should someone who's never played it before go with?
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>>741058152
lol
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>>741058270
play it without help
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>>741058270
just have fun and learn how the game works
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>>741056315
Any char customization or you're playing John Gothic with limited customization?
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>>741058270
str one hand-> two hand as Old Camp it's the best no muss no fuss way.
Mercs are fine too and Swamp gets you 2h a bit earlier and different spells good for a melee/magic build so really you can't go wrong
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>>741058346
the hero is a set character, yeah
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>picked a lock for the first time
Is this really what every fucker on earth is screeching about? it was a difficulty 2 lock but you just have to line the fucking things up and don't let the thing touch the edges
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>>741058270
Doesn't matter in terms of difficulty or anything. You'll start out in Old Camp, just ask around in there and get a feel for what each camp is about.
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I'm almost on chapter 6, and I can't find wolf for my minecrawler armor
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>>741058270
like the other anon said, just play it without external tips or guiding. Go with the dudes that seem interesting to you, as a first-timer it is extremely unlikely for you to choose a build or a faction that soft-locks you or fucks you over.
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>>741058270
I won't reveal much but you get a good opportunity to see what every camp is about yourself before locking in.
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>>741058356
the best experience early game is doing all 3 camps missions until you get to the point where you can choose.
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>>741058378
Alright fine by me though. Gonna jump in the gayme sooner or later
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>>741057316
I would rather cast rocks at people.
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this game is awesome. I'm probably going to play it 3 times. loon camp and old camp. I'm also going to play this on Gothic mode as a mage, which will kick my ass. I have to be good
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>>741058430
Ok. In another thread they were talking about magic being gimped so I didn't know. I also have not heard a single person say they're playing an archer. Is archery viable?
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I'm about to whip the sleepers ass
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>>741042152
What the fuck are those settings, anon? My game is fucking RED lol
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>>741058715
It's six in the morning and looks like a bloody asteroid the size of the moon is about to hit my head
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>>741058270
u can make good money u fuk goblin ass
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>>741058715
your colors are fucked up
works on my machine
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>>741058715
>I pissed off the period ridden wife
so many puzzles
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>>741058802
Which goblin do I fuck?
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>>741058715
Kinda goes hard ngl
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>>741058824
That one is nice, indeed
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>>741058856
learn 1h mastery and fuck up humans
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>>741058646
Mage stuff afaik isn't something you'll encounter by chance as a first-timer, it comes a bit later. In the remake archery is viable numbers-wise but personally I think that ranged combat in Gothic isn't designed to be your main way of combat, it's just not very satisfying or intuitive in my opinion. And you'll end up cheesing the game with bows because they allow you to.
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>>741058715
great now i wanna play remnant 2
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Gothic 2 Remake when
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I'm really disappointed nobody here is a true mecerny water mage. Adanos is the best god
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>>741058856
Don't learn 1h mastery. Instead get Fire Bolt from Torrez, visit Swamp camp and get a few dailies Swampweed from Fortuno (for mana recoup) and start melting goblins on your merry way or anyone for that matter
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>>741058979
fuck yeah. I'm very impressed with this
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I finished the stranger quest today. I found all 6 books.
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game's balanced like shit

I put like 50 arrows in a fucking skeleton and it barely hurt him

then he ran away, got stuck in the wall, and stabbed me in the ass one shot kill
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I have 175 fifty health healing potions in chapter 3
Do you think I will use them all before the end of the game
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>>741058270
Whatever build/camp you want, jesus christ would it kill you to play the game yourself?
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>>741056242
good game?
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>>741058979
9 more years
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>>741059165
Would it kill you to shut the fuck up? I know what 2001 games are like and didn't want to invest a ton of time into a playstyle that is fucking worthless down the line.
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>>741059148
you went to a skeleton fight and used arrows, not a club?
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>>741059148
>I put 50 arrows in a skeleton
>my dex is at 5
dude skeletons level up every chapter. have fun with the skeletons in the temple of Inos if you can get past the the frost shadow beast
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>>741059148
These are basic RPG mechanics, slashing and piercing things barely even scratch Mr. Skellington. You can't stab a bone expecting it to go through
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>>741056242
this turd looks so dated i just went back and reinstalled skyrim plus over 400 mods, it's bafling really, like they are so out of touch on what people are playing nowadays, eurojank isn't a genre sweetie
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>>741059265
>>741059358
>>741059286
Doesn't matter. 50 mostly headshots should kill anything, that's ridiculous anything could survive 50 arrows to the fucking face. Guess what would happen if I put 50 arrows in your fucking skull?
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>>741059148
just clobber them with a 2h Inos blade, and two greater invincibility rings, and an ore amulet.
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>>741059381
I know archery, and cross bow is op but skeletons are immune to pierce unless you have 100+ damage
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>>741059381
>>741059458
they're fucking hallow skeletons. bash them with hammers
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>>741059381
in my experience skeletons like to group up. take advantage of that
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>>741059490
I'll tell you what's not hollow your fucking asshole because my cock is deep inside u
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I'm trying to take a break from Gothic, but God damnit I just want to play it more now
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>>741059686
are you a bot?
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>>741059381
Should kill anything, according to who? The skeleton doesn't have any vital organs in its empty skull, now it has 50 arrows in its formerly empty skull. How do you expect that to stop the spooky scary skeltal man
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I don't care what anyone says. I love this "remake"
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>>741059743
not that anon but if you're good enough to not get hit. you can defeat the first chapter enimes. they actually evolve in Gothic remake. regular shadow beats don't exist on chapter 5. they've all evolved to legendary
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>>741059753
Kinda like how you love my fat fucking cock.

>>741059825
Just shoot them with the fire spell LMAO
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I have a question
>why does Gomez have 100'000 health after he killed the .....
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>>741059998
I don't care how gay you are, it think it's funny you're bumping the thread
>Mud
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>>741057917
You get a free early game armour in the new camp mine (freemine).
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>>741059148
Filtered
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>>741060085
if you're brazen you'll buy a transform into a blood fly and travel through the towrer to get the imperial guard armor. it's worthless by the time you find it naturally
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>>741060216
That might be a little too technical for someone new
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>>741060196
go ahead and sup on this shaft you fucking sack chaser
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>in act 5
>maybe i will be able to become a water mage soon since there was an option to say no to becoming a guard and say i want to become a mage instead
>get to the gigantic sleeper temple dungeon grind shit
>realize i had to become a fire mage since i joined old camp
well i guess im completing the game as a shadow
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>>741059381
Everyone knows skeletons are weak to blunt damage. Ask the one inside you.
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You might say it's wasted time but all this is gonna really come in handy when I get to Khorinis
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>>741056242
Should i buy this or Crimson Desert?
From the screenshots they kind have the same energy, although i know this is supposed to be some og autistic rpg game.
I don't care about the price difference, only time, and i only have time for one game in the near future.
I can't make my mind up between the mindless shallow fun that probably is Crimson Desert or something meatier (i hope) like this game.
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>>741060460
Crimson Desert is shit.
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>>741060460
What else do you want to play? Honestly, depending on your build, I'd say just ignore Gothic for now. It's ridden with filthy bugs and bad optimizations.
Genre wise, CD is a much bigger power fantasy from the start. Gothic takes awhile to reach gear 5 and it remains clunky until the end.
I'm playing right now, I'm mostly curious about the story, but what really kept me playing so far are threads like these.
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>>741060441
guarantee this guy fucks on wolf cock
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>>741060460
>Crimson Desert
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>kill all bloodflies within 20 paces
BITCH I DONE DID KILT EM ALL WITHIN 100 GODDAMN PACES

>well then you need to get some optics because they're still out there!
gimme a reason not to slap this nigga DOWN
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>>741060460
Crimson Desert isn't as shallow and mindless as people like to claim, it has a lot of movement and combat mechanics that are hidden, and chaining them together is never explained or encouraged, not even necessary. You just want to experiment because finding new combos or tricks is fun.
And when it comes to autism, Gothic is far more straightforward and intuitive, it's Crimson Desert that is the autistic one. And they have basically no similarities other than "fantasy adventure game with rpg elements" but that is a vague enough description to fit almost any fantasy game.
That all being said, you should never buy any videogame at Crimson Desert's price tag
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>>741060457
Does make me wonder if they will let port saves from g1 remake into g2.
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>>741060358
you can become a water mage even if you picked shadow + warder
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>>741061545
well i never got the option to do any of that even after talking to all the water mages and collectng all the crystals and meeting the necromancer nigga so i must have fucked up something somewhere long ago since im not a mage of any kind and have no magic level at all
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kilt that hippy bitch

done fried his fuckin goard on that wakky tobakky

boy done fucked up
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>>741061207
1 at the beach bugged out for me and after a reload showed up again
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>>741061207
There isn't. You can slap him. He's a fockin' cunt
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>>741060457
>>741061396
The way Gothic 1 ends, there's no way that any loot would carry over and there's an explanation for the level reset too. I see no point to porting a save between 1 and 2
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first time G1 player here, doing my run on hard mode.
In ch1 I've:

Explored most of the map, killed all the critters I could find for XP
Hunted every swamp shark to extinction after learning their lunge/attack pattern
Cleared out old monastery (except the shadowbeast in the end, fuck those things) and tower of bones
Beat up every guard I could get alone or in pairs for xp and loot, killed a few too when they wouldn't de-aggro
Beat up every ore baron and took their stuff, coup de grace'd Scar and Arto as well
Beat up gomez and took his sword for myself

am i ready for ch2?
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>>741060324
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>>741061754
There's a time in game when everyone hates you guts, merchants in each camp tell you they won't sell you shit etc.
You have to go to old camp so they officially tell you you're kicked out.
When guy at the gate starts talking about some bet and asks you for 100 to enter you'll know it's the right time.
Talk to Thorus. He'll tell you he persuaded Gomez to just kick you out, instead of killing you.
Then you can talk to Saturas. He'll let you join new camp, ten talk to Lee and do a job for him, he'll let you join mercs.
After that talk to Saturas again and ask to become water mage.
I got fucked by this for few hours. Didn't know you have to resolve your shit with old camp so you can move on.
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>>741061939
I want Lester to keep the deed he found and the in G2 remake there will be a whole quest chain about and it ends with the boys and I having a sweet new crib.
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>>741061207
Check your optics, chud
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>>741061950
yes but barely so
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>>741062020
I preferred the og where the old camp was sealed shut and all the guards were kill-on-sight.
Not like you need to go there anyway.
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>>741061950
There's a snowy area near the old mine with many thundra wolves for extra EXP
There's also ice shadowbeast there but you can kill it from afar with 'beginner' firebolt rune you get from Torez in old camp, just stock come mana regen herbs. There's a nice amulet there and 108 damage crossbow.
You can also kill the monastery shadowbeast with relative ease if you manage to get your hands on lightning ball scrolls.
Charge to max, hit it, it gets stunned long enough you can charge another one.
5 scrolls are enough, finish with weapon while it's still stunned.
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Finished yesterday but with few things still unsolved.
Old camp dungeon had In Extremo band in one cell, female prisoner in other cell and their lock weren't pickable.
Gomez' keys didn't work either. Can you release those people somehow?

Another guy in dungeon was probably from Outlaw camp and I even opened his cell but he didn't want to leave and basically told me to fuck off.
Is there some Outlaw camp quest involving him?

In chest beside Gomez' throne was a drawing for 'royal hammer' but it wasn't a blueprint you could learn.
Can you do something with it? Talked to blacksmiths in OC and SC, got no dialog option to show it to them or ask them to craft it.
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>>741062020
>spoiler
yeah the guards tried to ask for 100 nugs so i pushed their shit in and talked to thorus but even then saturas would not offer me dialogue to join and lee just has some generic 1 dialogue option
anyway im in the final(?) dungeon now in act 5 so im not going to bother going back and trying to fix it
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Mud is so fucking realistically written
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>>741062149
>Not like you need to go there anyway.
I got a quest from digger blacksmith to save Gomez's blacksmith from the dungeon.
Got an option to upgrade Ore armor after all that.
How did that work in OG Gothic?
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>>741058270
The best fit for the story would be starting with Old Camp
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>>741062420
You know I fuck on swamp cock bitch
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>>741062191
Cool tips, thanks, I'll check out that snowy area before deigning to join the old camp who are all submissive and breedable to me after ive kicked all their asses
Don't have any lightning ball scrolls yet so the monestary shadowbeast will have to wait
Kinda temped to venture into orc country to clear some of them out for XP but I heard the remake gives them quests and a language so I don't want to fuck that up
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>>741062446
>How did that work in OG Gothic?
Not that anon and the last time I played the game was over a decade ago, but I'm pretty sure it was the same. You run into either Thorus or Raven and then you can join the New Camp.
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not sure if i should boughted this game or not =w=
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>>741062527
>Kinda temped to venture into orc country to clear some of them out for XP but I heard the remake gives them quests and a language so I don't want to fuck that up
You can clean up all orcs and their dogs roaming freely without worry.
The ones giving quests are in their own camp which you can't enter until you reach that part of main quest.
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I love the first two games and I kind of want to see what they did with the remake, but holy shit is it ugly. This is the best (worst) example of UE slop imaginable. Is it better in motion? The screenshots are disgusting to look at.
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>>741062459
Why? Old Camp is gay as fuck. Why wouldn't you go new camp to escape
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>>741062332
>Is there some Outlaw camp quest involving him?
Yes but as far as I know it's mercenary quest from Lee that get's you started on it, somewhat indirectly.
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>>741062678
Thanks.
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>>741062623
Because NC plan is retarded and everyone is an asshole, even more so than in the OC.
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I don't care about fattening up the ore baron's arse. Diego might be a good guy but I want to get the fuck outta this shithole. I'm joining the new camp.
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>>741060619
>What else do you want to play?
I'm playing PoE 2 right now (incredibly slowly) and will play CD or Gothic when i'm done with it and some life things in 4 weeks or so, these are the only two games that caught my attention recently, outside of them i'd play something in my backlog which is extensive
>I'd say just ignore Gothic for now. It's ridden with filthy bugs and bad optimizations.
That's great to know thanks

>>741061346
>you should never buy any videogame at Crimson Desert's price tag
I've heard tell that the game is almost worth the 70 dollars tag, but i was already planning on waiting for the summer sale anyway
>And when it comes to autism, Gothic is far more straightforward and intuitive, it's Crimson Desert that is the autistic one.
wow now thats crazy, kinda makes me even more interested in CD actually
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>>741062550
I played it like a year agoe the first time in the unreal beta mod thing and once I got to the old camp as a warden Bloodwyn told me I was a traitor and aggroed on me with the other guars. The gates themselves were completely closed and the only way to enter was the Fire Mage rune.
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>>741062726
Even a retarded plan is better than just staying forever inside the cuck dome.
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>>741062360
>saturas would not offer me dialogue to join
Strange.
Maybe some other trigger is involved.
When I asked, he told me I did so much for water mages (specifically entioned focus stones) he's ok with me joining.
Only other big quest for NC I remember doing before joining was liberation of Free mine.
>so im not going to bother going back and trying to fix it
Assuming you went full STR or DEX, you probably wouldn't have enough points to get to circle 6 anyway.
I managed circle 2, fell 5 points short of circle 3 but didn't feel like combing through the map to scrape for one last level just for that.
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>>741062601
just do the usual unreal engine fog removal engine tweaks to get some color in this shit
it does have some pretty ugly pop in usually hidden by the meme fog but i can live with that
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>>741062836
>Even a retarded plan is better
NTA but if Xardas is not bullshiting water mages' plan would kill everyone inside the dome, even them.
Basically you as a hero must fuck everyone's shit up to solve the big problem
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>>741060460
as gook, crimson desert is just cheap rdr2 ripoff and rdr2 is already a pure dogshit 'game'
somehow fucking useless utter dogshit soulless gook 'people' likes rdr2 and thinks it's magnum opus of videogame
I dunno why exactly but one thing comes to mind is that both are soulless af, nah, more likeley, it's masculinity castration of videogame, maybe that's the reason why gookniggers find comfy from rdr2
long story short : never buy it
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>>741062850
i liberated the mine aswell since you need to orc there anyway
i held onto about 40 points for some mage levels but that never happened so maybe i will read up on some guide if i ever decide to replay the game and make sure the triggers happen to allow it
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>>741063048
Fair point, the Water Mages are only slightly less retarded than the Fire Mages but I was arguing more on a philosophical level where it would always be better to join the guys who are trying to actually do something, instead of cucks who are fine being trapped forever.
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>>741063204
this is why the choice is obvious. fuck just living in prison with nothing but hundreds of men for the rest of your life

everyone except new camp is retarded
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>>741062623
old good new bad
simple as
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>>741056480
Hold block or try to fucking dodge enemy attacks before you attack. How retarded can you be? Is this your first videogame ever? I swear I can't understand people sometimes. You apes really just never even try your buttons, huh? You don't even test block and dodge. You don't look at your enemies and see what attacks they have? You just walk straight into enemies mashing attack and then wonder what happened when you died? You can't figure it out?
Why are you people like this?
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Framerate dips hard in the swamp like wtf
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>>741056676
Yeah, should only take 6 to 8 years.
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>>741063425
not him but man I really enjoyed the challenge so far, forgot how hard games were and how fucking easy games have become nowadays aside from fast travel etc
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Are there different outcomes for Escape plan quest final dialog option?
Didn't save close enough so I didn't check.
Basically you can side with traitor female who got Syra killed or with the other one.
I agreed with the other one and she just stabbed the traitor and run away.
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>>741063312
>man concocts 32 sticks of dynamite and intends on blowing them up in his cell to get out of jail
>joining him is clearly the right choice as he is actually trying to do something
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Is there any secret to Mud?
His dialogues started looping at some point and now he just died on the way to the Swamp Camp.
Am I going to miss out on a secret legendary questline or can I just continue playing?
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>>741063425
I believe testing block at level 1 would have arrived him at exactly the same conclusion.
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>>741063769
RIP. If you don't keep him with you until about half way through act 5 you're guaranteed to get the bad ending.
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>>741063769
There's a trophy for listening to 100% of his drivel if that's your thing.
In my game he looped 4 times before dying and the trophy completion is stuck at 95%.
Probably should have talked to him more.
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>old camp
>get bullied and blackmailed by guards
>work your ass off in the mines and barely get any ore to spend on yourself

>new camp
>everyone is a total asshole
>enslaved to pick rice like all the diggers before you

>swamp camp
>dudeweed lmao
>just hang around all day and smoke
>maybe have to listen to some gurus crazy talk or mash some weed at worst
>protected by the strongest warriors in the colony

the choice is obvious
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>741063943
>swamp camp
>dudeweed lmao
>just hang around all day and smoke WHILE ALIEN WORM DRAGON HELLBENT OF DESTROYING EVERYTHING IS WHISPERING INTO YOUR BRAIN SLOWLY TURNING YOU MAD
yeah, the choice really is obvious
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>>741063204
>No taxes
>No women
idk why I'd ever want to leave
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>>741063991
yeah, right, like the sleeper is anything but a way to cope with being stuck in the colony forever
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my favorite camp is the one where I can whoop anyones ass and they don't care while I'm gaining xp and loot
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>>741063769
Damn dude that sucks. I can't imagine being robbed of the opportunity of smashing that guy's skull into the road myself.
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>>741056480
Thats their formula - you have to sit in town for a while, doing fetch and talk quests to get equipment and training before venturing wilds.
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I got this bug or something in act 4 where all factions are hostile at me for no reason, can't smith cant barter. Did anyone else have this bug? Will it resolve itself by joining the new camp? It seems like a bug, no reason all other factions should be mad at you. Old Camp start btw.
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>>741063684
Yes. Better than just giving up and being a bitch
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>>741064194
It's not a bug, just badly explained story progression
Do this >>741062020
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>>741063535
While urine engine 5 feels like it was forever due to massive fatigue, it was released in 2023. They will make G2 in 3 years.
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>>741064067
that's every camp assuming you're not stupid enough to start shit in the open where 15 people can shoot you with bows and crossbows from afar
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The remake kinda confirmed that people hyping up G1 were wearing pink tinted glasses. That game has almost 0 choices or consequences and is railroaded HARD from 2nd chapter onwards.

Still, it's a very good remake and it reminds me of how much more fun old games are. The mere fact that I have to refer to map and landmarks to find my way around places without some UI designed for nigger cattle holding my hand all the way through makes this game 1000 times better than modern slop like Baldurs Gate 3.

It's also cool to see the attention to the detail from Devs: torches flickering in the rain, blood on hero's body being washed away with the river current, beast carcasses being skinnable before rotting away, ice spells freezing water so you can walk across.

8/10 remake to a 7/10 game
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>>741064230
idgi why would the other camps be mad to the point of not being able to trade, you helped the water mages theres no reason for new camp to be mad at you, and if swampers wanted to get mad they would get mad when their leader died or something, whats the reasoning for all that shit

also im playing pure ooga booga zweihander does joining the water mages imply learning some circle of magic or what
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>>741064374
>idgi why would the other camps be mad to the point
exactly my thoughts it's badly explained out of nowhere shit and fucking bandits will tell you they don't want to deal with someone who breaks the rules ffs
>does joining the water mages imply learning some circle of magic or what
you're joining new camp first, joining water mages is a later choice and you need alchemy and scroll writing before Saturas even gives you the test
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The german VO was kino in the original, but I assume that english VO is the go to this time around.
Correct?
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>>741059212
doubt it, now that they have foundations confirmed working it's just a matter of assembling shit together. I call four years tops
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>>741064220
Is blowing yourself up with dynamite not just an easier way of giving up?
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>>741064486
german remake VO is decent, nothing to complain about except the MC speaking weirdly
I hope some autist ports the og voices with AI eventually.
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>>741064470
but joining water mages is a must to clear the game state?

also i dont have scrollwriting, who can teach me that in this game state, swamp camp mage?
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>>741064351
Fair points all around, we forgive the og railroading cause it was made by ten guys in a garage and that would be impossible to change in the remake without redesigning half the game.
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Does alchemy require a lot of hunting skills to gather stuff? Im lvl 11 in chapter 1 and have a big pile of herbs
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>>741064595
>a must to clear the game state?
no

>>741064653
alchemy is plants, hunting trophies get used at best in animal transformation scrolls.
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>>741064486
The main character has his OG voice actor, but he sounds a bit more retarded than before, as if he was yelling every line into the mic. Maybe the guy had a stroke, he's in his 60 and looks like he drinks and smokes more than a small Bavarian village. pic related
The other characters sound decent though.
I watched some gameplay in English and from what I can compare I prefer the German VO.
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Man I hope they fix some of the bugs in these game, I can't help but feel like I'm going to break something permanently without noticing. I had to run away from battle at a certain area because I couldn't use melee attacks at all, they just got disabled. I'm not sure that's intended. I don't like when the loading screen turns into a 3fps slideshow when it displays "press any key to continue", it implies there's something wrong there. When certain NPCs just drop from a high altitude, which makes me paranoid they will die. When NPCs disappear at the distance in front of me. When they get stuck inside walls. When I try to interact with an NPC, but it takes about 30 to 40 seconds until the conversation starts. When an NPC in the tavern shows two conversation options that are the same. For all I know, since it's so faithful in some aspects, even though there's no strafing, you could probably pass through locked doors.
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So I minmaxed a little (without cheesing NPCs) a became a murder machine by having a 74 dmg sword from a downed temple guard during the old mine quest and investing my first 16 levels into 100 strength and 3rd level of 2h weapon mastery while only adding skinning and novice runes for healing (I ran mana rings and amulet in early game)

I'm thinking what should I do next in terms of LPs, I really enjoy having healing from mana as I burn through hp potions like crazy (they heal like 1/5th of your hp pool) - should I go for alchemy and inscription and then start dumping points into mana or does dexterity make more sense?

Can I still join water mages after I'm kicked out from the old camp in 4th chapter?
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>>741064351
>That game has almost 0 choices or consequences
No 3D game has ever had meaningful "choices or consequences". I stopped giving a shit about that when ME burned my whole generation.

Ironically this game does it about as good as it gets by any standard. Your choices throughout the story cut you off from a pretty significant amount of other choices. And, also ironically, the game you mentioned to shit on for UI is kindof an outlier in modern video games in that it has an unusually high number of these types of decisions.Pretty much this game's only "fault" in this regard is how easy it is to get away with murder. But honestly, that's better than the alternative. Omniscient authority is the norm in games now and it's always fuckin gay as hell.
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>>741064841
Dunno about drinking and stuff it just felt to me like he hadn't been working as a voice actor for 20 years.
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>>741065051
Gothic 2 voiceacting was somewhat amateurish so I'd say it's part of the charm.
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>>741064941
Healing rune is great and the efficiency of the healing scales with your circles of magic. Fire and Water Mages only teach you the circles in chapter 3 but Baal Cadar will do so immediately if you join weed camp.

>>741065087
Exactly but that is one thing the moors couldn't understand so they probably gave him some VA tips and training and it only made him worse. Thankfully it's a minor concern.
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Is alchemy worthless or something? I've just learned alchemy in 3rd chapter thinking I've been picking everything I can, yet I can only craft very basic mana/hp potions and I haven't seen any recipes other than a hp/mana one from Riordian, how do I craft strength potions?
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>>741065296
Xardas has the recipe for str and mana stat potions. It's also not worthless by virtue of the fact that you need to buy less potions.
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DLACZEGO POBIŁEŚ KOPACZA???
DLACZEGO POBIŁEŚ NOWICJUSZA???
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>>741056242
>mountains so close
I mean they could have increased the scale of the game a little bit.
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>>741064595
>but joining water mages is a must to clear the game state?
not really
you probably don't even need to join the new camp (didn't test) because they let you in their mage quarters anyway
but it makes things go smoother and when you join NC you have access to their teachers and armorers not only merchants
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>>741065335
>increased the scale
it's not supposed to be a continent under the barrier, just one big ore mine and some nearby facilities
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>>741065404
The valley of mines also feels a little too mountainous.
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Crimson Desert is better made, sold way more and has none of this stupid shit that doesn't respect the player. Why would anyone ever play this for more than a hour?
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>>741056686
wait hold up.

Am I able to get that thing sticking out of him? I tried shooting him with arrows, as well as the rope, just curious if something would happen.

But can I actually get that weapon with telekinesis?
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>>741065475
you can but it does like 20 dmg
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>>741065428
magic ore aura shaped the landscape to be video-gamy with tall mountains preventing you from going to interesting places too early
i don't have to explain shit
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>>741065448
>generic fake rivalry shitpost #51456156165144
*yaaaaaawwwwnnnn*
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>>741065501
This game just keeps giving me smiles man.

I just got to the musical part and was all smiles.

Did the king cast a band in there?
Did he send instruments for men to play?
I dunno, and I may find out, but its wonderful world building!
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>>741065573
glad you enjoy it
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>>741065607
I love it, haven't had this kind of fun, discovery, or exploration in awhile, everything feels wonderful, it may be clunky at times, and glitchy, but it more then makes up for it. with how much love and attention to detail was put in.

I dont know what the fuck is happening with those dead bodies, and I dont wanna have it spoiled, ill just figure it out eventually, now im going back to passing out weed to bandits and mercs.
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hmm... this or wait for elliot next week..
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>>741065676
The formula seems so simple and yet few games ever managed to capture. Go and play Gothic 2 too, something like Nostalgia or gold mod that cleans the game without changing too much.
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I really dunno what to dump my 20 LPs into now,
I'm in 3rd chapter. I've maxed strength and 2h mastery.

Alchemy is useless compared to widely available food and novice healing rune I can use by simply equipping mana gear. I know it becomes stronger in 5th chapter but that's light years away.

Inscription doesn't feel like worth it although I did use couple of firestorm scrolls against minecrawler queen that came in clutch. Dunno if you can even craft powerful spells like this or it's all garbage shit like transformations.

I already waisted 4 LP on skinning.

Blacksmithing feels like a total waste of time and meme, finite resources to craft with, better weapons just found randomly in the world or at vendors.

Acrobatics are nerfed and worthless

Climbing feels optional and so far every instance of climbing I've seen is just some shortcut to an otherwise normally accessible place.

Diving is a meme unless you're chest maxing.

Lock picking isn't necessary beyond 1 level.

I don't have dex for pick pocketing or archery.

I'm not a mage so I can't do spell circles.

Should I just dump everything into mana now? Can I still join water mages as a guard from old camp in 4th chapter?
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is learning smithing worth it?
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I've been autisming over the lockpicking. Is it possible that the "locks are unsolvable" claims are based on the mod's inefficiencies?

There's math to solve each lock. It gets significantly more complicated if you account for the fact that you can't move one of the sliders more than 3 slots off the neutral position of 4/7 at any point during the operation. I'm wondering if the mod doesn't account for this.
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>>741066080
The only unsolvable locks I encountered are there for RP/progression purposes ie: Gomez' door to stop you from stealing OP shit early into game.
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>>741066159
>Kick the shit out of Scar for a laugh.
>Take his sword.
>Didn't know I could do that.
>I'm fucking unstoppable now.
>I cant stop mugging fuckers now.
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I just got kicked out of the Old Camp and am now doing that quest for Myxir, you know, the beach with all the fire lizards. I dived around for like half an hour before I found this temple. Any idea how I’m supposed to solve this puzzle? I keep shooting stuff and trying, and failing, to pull levers, but nothing works.
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>>741066240
>wardencuck
im not helping a simpleton
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Does this thing run at all on the Steam Deck? I assume not because UE5, but the demo ran fine.
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>>741056242
How is Remake compared to the OG? Which would you guys recommend for someone who's never played Gothic
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>>741066240
Okay never mind. Turns out this place has nothing to do with Myxirs quest and I just found it on accident. I was supposed to get a book from one of the crashed ships. The temple is part of the watermage initation and the reason why none of the levers work is because I dont have that quest active
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>>741066428
Remake is as close to the og as could make and biggest issues stem fro UE anti-soul gas but it is a good entry point and it will make you understand why people loved Gothic for so long
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>>741066518
Did you actually swim up half the goddamn coast?
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>>741066580
Lol, yes. I couldn’t find what he meant, and the Adanos temple kind of sounded like the obvious choice to me.
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>"Before Jackal, I wanted to send Bullit, but someone killed him."
yeah........sorry Thorus....
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>>741066618
Tell Myxir you got lost following the vibes
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>>741056242
Somebody should make a mod that makes it so that the hero's fists are permanently clenched.
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>>741044547
I hope you’re still reading this, but it’s not because of my graphics card, because I run an RTX 3060. I use DLSS Enabler, which lets you use frame generation even on older cards. Those screenshots are heavily upscaled, but thanks to 2x frame generation, I still get a smooth 100 FPS. It also stopped all my stuttering.
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unrealslop
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Scavenger sex mod when
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did I lock myself out of joining the new camp?
>got the quest to get rid of Mordrag but he won't let me escort him to the new camp because I already discovered it
>already delivered the supply list from the mine back to Diego
wat do
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>>741065756
>Acrobatics are nerfed and worthless
Roll vs dodge is incomparable.
Amount of distance you gain with roll allows you to melee shadowbeast tier enemies without chugging potions like crazy
>Should I just dump everything into mana now? Can I still join water mages as a guard from old camp in 4th chapter?
You need alchemy and scroll writing before any mage group lets you join.
Yes you can but I'd save points for magic circles first if you want high level spells.
There's load of rings and amulets and some permanent +mana potions for mana expansion.
>>741065778
if you really don't have anything else to level up
you get 1 extra quest from blacksmith in old camp
if you explore a lot you can find nice blueprints and mats so you can occasionally get better weapon for free
and you can craft bunch of generic swords from leftover metal for some extra ore
nothing really fancy
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>>741066846
Yeah, locked out. Could still join old camp and then in chapter 4 join the mercs
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>>741066580
>swim up half the goddamn coast
what's the issue?
when I found the weed camp climber tutor and saw the shipwrecks behind him in ch1 I swam through the whole sea part
there's no stamina so you can't drown and that whole area is a treasure trove of awesome gear and mana regen shit
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>>741067131
Yeah but also pretty fucking slow.
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>you can spare Nyras
huh, that's new.
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>>741067164
sure, that's why it took me 60+ hours to finish 1st time but exploration and atmosphere is just too good to speed through the main quest line
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Are there light, medium and heavy templar armors here, or just one you upgrade?
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>>741066420
Absolutely not, demos are usually built on different engines.
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Is there a list of new quest anywhere out there? I've done this too many times it's all automatic.
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Anyone else got problems with the lock-on button getting unbound all the time? I have ot fiddle with it every day.
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mandatory mods?
original voice lines mods out?
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>>741067314
>missing out on that sweet xp for killing the fucker
ngmi
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>>741067372
Too bad, but not unexpected. I'm surprised the official rating isn't out yet, it's already been almost 10 days and this is a fairly big release. Ah well. Guess I'll have to pass then.
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>>741067576
there's no extra XP for executing someone on the floor
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Any exploits theyre obviously gonna patch?
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>>741067604
gay sex with Gorn giving infinite exp
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>>741067594
you might want to double check that
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>>741067640
Don't fuck with me
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>>741067643
holy shit. why would they do that lmao.
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>>741067670
I didn't, I fucked with Gorn
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speaking of Gorn. anyone else feel like they made his eyes a little too bulgy?
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>>741056686
How do you even jump there?
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>>741067719
you can climb that platform from the sea
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>>741067687
As reward for being a proper asshole. All of the Gomez shits in the free mine died and donated their xp 2.
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>>741067714
and yellow
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>>741056480
just use cheats
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>>741056480
>mfs
this game isnt for you darkie
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first off. i'm really happy to see Gothic back on the /v/ menu and the majority enjoying it and having fun despite it flaws.

but damn i was so happy to become a templar in remake again just to see that somehow now their armors are the most boring ones compared to the OG. time to be a guard in old camp this time.
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whats the most OP shit
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>>741068525
firebolt, then ball lightning and finally fire storm.
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>>741065573
it was in the original too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU3LR7nNjd0
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reminder if you overload on weed you can ignore fall damage with ragdolling by spamming dodge
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>>741068543
>magic
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>>741068584
KEK
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Do orc shamans have a wider repertoire this time, or also mostly fireball spam?
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>>741068619
yeah magic is OP final boss dies from 2 fire storms. like he enters the arena and gets hit by precast spell and I'm already casting the second one. good final boss.
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They did an amazing job. Now for Gothic 2 i hope they will be a bit more brave in changing things around.
Khorinis needs to be a bit more exotic, less typical medieval setting, and they need to incorporate the DLC/expansion better into the main game.
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>>741068584
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That's kinda dissapointing. The crawlers were 'yuge in the OG. These are so spindly.
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>Joined the mercenaries.
>Realize I don't actually like their armors.

Dang.
What do I do now? Reload and repeat chapter 2 for a different camp?
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>>741068764
yes. or try to join the mages asap.
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I love how the game starts to break down more and more the further you get into the game. Truly an authentic Gothic experience. That final gauntlet sure was something.
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>>741066846
>already delivered the supply list from the mine back to Diego
only way out of that is cheating that list back into your inventory
there's a guide for this specific situation in the steam community for the game
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>big armor
>big sword
>oneshot everything

is that possible
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>>741069082
>oneshot everything
most things, other than that yes
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Where the hell did Lester go?
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>>741068664
havent fought one apart from the undead dudes in the temple which all have different spells, the only shamans are in the orc camp and you dont have to fight them
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I am playing with a gamepad and I can't help but think the quick slot system isn't great. It's designed to make you stop moving unless you do some claw gripping.
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>>741069174
sweet which camp to i choose
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>>741068746
The original ones have always been one of the more memorable creature designs in Gothic to me. They were more like a mix of spider and ant. These are just spiderlike, the remake queen has a body shape more resembling the original ones
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>>741069212
Outside.

https://youtu.be/wEjYqFqhAaI?t=7
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>>741069212
outside of the mine at the wooden pallisade entrance
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>>741069212
He should be at the mine entrance, unless you already talked to the Big 4
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Non-buynary
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>>741069258
Any. I guess swamp loonies will get you a big sword the fastest.
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>>741068584
>Im so high I feel invincible
Feels about right
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>>741069340
Theres a mod for that
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>>741069212
Wo ist eigentlich Leser? Er wollte doch Verstärkung holen
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Be honest with me /v/, is being a fire mage worth it?
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>>741068685
Jharkendar exists to remedy the blandness of Khorinis, there is no helping it. What I'd like to see is a less gutted Valley, it really killed the mood for me. Not just because it closed off some areas, but because it was gutted mechanically. Removed the ladders, no diving, rivers stood still. I hated it so much.
What would be a nice addition is some kind of save import to fix that early game awkwardness where exposition was dumped on you as if the NH had amnesia in some early conversations, but not in others. Would be best to get rid of that and just let the characters pick up where they left off in G1.
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>>741069447
don't remind me...
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I don't like their faces. Only Diego looks alright.
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>>741069447
Anon, no!
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>>741068584
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>>741069431
>just buy our shitty product consoomer and fix it yourself
man I love giving money to people who hate me.
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>>741069431
please share
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>>741069212
i was wondering the same and when i saw it says "topside" i figured theres no way the fucker ran all the way out but that was it
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>>741069652
>just buy our shitty product consoomer and fix it yourself
Worked for Skyrim and most other bethesda games.
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>>741069526
>be Lester
>part of a gang of thieves who infiltrated the major factions
>they all become bigshots in their camps
>you get stuck with showing the place around to new weedheads
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>>741069686
that's a great standard to strive for
publisher can charge 80 buckeroos for minimal viable product and just have the customers finish the development.
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>>741069752
The other camps work on merit, Swamp Camp works on devotion, and everyone can tell he doesn't truly give a crap.
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>>741069431
oh my god. stop talking to the censorship guy already. enough.
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wtf did fitgirl put into the unpacker exe ??
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>>741069760
Gothic has more content and more interesting quests than Skyrim
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>>741069752
in original it's lester who tells you to go see yberion and when you tell the temple guard lester sent you he says lester is trustworthy and that you may pass. I saw it as him being a perma novice by choice and he has a lot of influence in swamp camp.
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>>741069859
I won't tell you that this is perfectly safe, but cracks getting flagged as malware is nothing new.
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Am I locked out of bringing dusty to the swamp camp after joining the old camp?
I'm supposed to talk to a guru about him joining, but no guru will actually do any fucking thing.
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>>741069924
its not the crack its just the installer for file uncompressing it should be crystal clean
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Alright lads I've been running around this shithouse and I can't fucking find the last goddamn undead orc I need.
Can any of you mark the location of those fags on the map for me?
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>>741069859
There's a GoG release AFAIK, just grab that instead of a fucking fitgirl repack
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>>741069924
what's the point of cracks with games released on gog
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>>741069859
bruh just pirate the gog installer
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don't go crawler hunting while baked, bros.
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>>741069898
It does. I can see the potential the series had to beat Elder Scrolls but the krauts fucked up and werent able to capitalize on a fantastic first game
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>>741069961
blue/red/green mausoleums 1 orc each, 3 demons and sword thats one orc. last is the one before sleepers chambers.
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>>741069982
Where do you guys get your gog installers now that gog-games is shutting down?
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>>741070051
They made a good sequel but everything went downhill since Gothic 3. PB managed to make two solid games after - Risen 1 and Elex 1 but that's it.
Weird that no other company ever TRIED making a Gothic clone.
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>>741070051
I honestly think it's world of warcraft's fault. you can see the wow shit in gothic 3 and it ruined the series.
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>>741069961
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>>741070086
rutracker
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>>741070078
>>741070163
Thanks. Apparently I was too drunk when exploring yesterday and I completely missed Sleeper's chamber.
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Was the crawler nest section also that short in the og? I killed like 7 crawlers and suddenly there's the queen. No side tunnels, no crawler swarms.
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>>741069535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4j76A_2yJQ
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>>741070425
the cave is 1:1 to original except for the queen's phase 2 chamber
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How do I dupe the str and dex potions?
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>>741070090
I bet some of them are gonna try now that the remake was a success unfortunately the state of the industry is absolute
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>>741070451
god I hate how fuck ugly everything but the world looks in G3
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>>741070483
Huh. I guess memory is fickle. I remember walking through fleshy tunnels and fighting dozens of crawlers.
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https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/87

OH SHIT GERMAN BROS
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>>741070585
finally we get the SCAVENGER SEX MOD
Germany wins again
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>>741070585
did they also get the original VA for german? the polish guy was in retirement for 6 years when they pulled him out.
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Which camp has the best story?
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>in extremo concert
>some digger goes "what language is that?"
funny game
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this game seriously needs a yellow paint feature. everything is too confusing and difficult for no reason
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>>741070664
yes
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https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/28

Mandatory mod
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Playing mage is not only more fun but also gives you a smoother character progression and allows for learning secondary skills easily without autism minmaxing your primary strength and weapon mastery to not be completely useless. Based
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>>741070664
>did they also get the original VA for german?
ye but I think he also didnt do any voicework for a long time, he sounds very mixed compared to nearly every other VA
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https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/15

does this actually wor
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just saw nu-Xardas
monumental aura loss
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>>741070829
I tried it yesterday cause I hate fog and unfortunately the game needs it. It looks too raw without it. Would be nice if there was a fog reducer instead.
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>>741070664
Yeah, and he sucks ass this time.
In the promo interviews it becomes very clear that his normal talking voice sounds just like he sounded back then, he is just fucking up his delivery of the lines.
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>>741070858
Yes although 1.0.1 ruined my performance again. Still good
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So where are the sex mods? I want to rape Mud in his tight little ass
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>>741070902
nice
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>the homos are making voiceover mods instead of undressing the pozzed bitches and giving them feminine curves
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>>741070852
>>741070869
Same situation then. Polish guy has worse audio quality than the NPCs and kinda talks like he had a stroke. Very monotone and slow.
I wonder if they'll try to get them again if they do Gothic 2.
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>>741070989
Who cares about goonerbait
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>>741070989
Why aren't you doing it?
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>>741070996
use this mod >>741070585
they updated his voice lines in the newest patch a bit
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I don't mind spoilers so - how do you get Gomez's ore armor? Do I just need to go to Old Camp and beat everyone's ass or do I get some encounter with him?
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>>741070989
There's no modkit and it's a UE5 game meaning swapping voices is as easy as replacing files while modeling is extremely unlikely until we get 3rd party tools to unpack the game
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>>741068746
They look like shit. In the OG they were supposed to be ants which was way more memorable than another giant spider monster.

Yes I'm doing a fair judgement my fear of spiders has nothing to do with it.
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wtf is up with the retarded damage output in gothic 2?
I'm lvl 5 with leather armor + belt and weak ass peasant are still 1 shotting me with farming tools.
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>>741071035
it's in his chest upstairs. he has the key. technically you can just beat him up and rob him.
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>>741071079
That was a crit.
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>>741071043
I have a feeling they got inspired by Risen 3 a bit too much
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I have faith in Spaniards. There's some issues but overall it's a very GOOD remake, haven't seen anything remotely close to it since Demon Souls remaster. Unless they go full globohomo by THQ order I think they can really cook with Gothic 2 remake
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>>741056242
New player here, got to the swamp by following this guy but he died in the way so I looted his mace, 26 str to wield tho.

Managed to pickpocket a chest and get a lot of swamp weed joints aswell. I actually like the lockpicking in this game, just savescumming tho
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>>741071107
So no other way and it's not resolved in some scriped main story event? Only option is going there and beating his ass?

I guess that works
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>grab torch
>want to put it away
>he always puts it into the ground
WHY
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>>741071117
I understand that but the crit rate and damage in this game seems absurdly high.
Every fight is me reloading several times until I do it flawlessly.
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>>741071176
because it's already on fire. you can't put that back in your pocket. it's spent.
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>>741071176
So you can fight in the dark
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>>741071195
Playing NOTR aren't you? Get used to it.
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>>741056242
I kinda want to support this but the pricetag seems way too steep and the artstyle looks like it got enshittified. Just little things like that make me not want to pay for vidya like this
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>>741071195
if you're playing NOTR you're gonna be a wimp for a looong time. I fucking hate that expansion.
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>>741071215
Yeah, I suppose so.
I figured now that I had some decent armor things would change but nope.
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>>741071175
he was wearing it in that cutscene because he needed protection from magic. then he put it back in the chest.
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>>741071210
>>741071207
you could in the original
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>>741071269
I get that, I was simply wondering if they made some small separate quest for getting his armor instead of just breaking into the old camp after Xardas mentions such a set of armor
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>>741071267
It changes... when you have good armor "decent" doesn't cut it.

The only thing you can do is savescum and git gud: learn beast attack patterns, and learn to parry human enemy attacks, a mistake is gonna be a death for like 80% of the game.

NOTR is deliberately designed to be brutal, because slavs are massive masochists and derive fun from being shat upon.
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>>741065756
>Climbing feels optional and so far every instance of climbing I've seen is just some shortcut to an otherwise normally accessible place.
you don't pay with point for climbing, guy asks for 6 herb rolls and climbing is really useful
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>>741056480
>attack, attack, dodge
repeat, too hard. get fucking filtered.
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>>741068746
Wtf bros, I thought ranged was the most OP one and 2handers were kinda shit? Was I told a LIE?!
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>>741071385
Retard, that still takes 5 LPs.
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People are asking for a sex mod? 10 hrs in and I haven't seen a single woman in the Colony
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>>741071493
we want gay sex
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>>741071493
Prison rules, anon - weakest man becomes the woman.
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>>741071492
ok imbecile, it's still useful no matter how much you screech like a little bitch
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>>741071493
It's not gay anon it's just prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r_xPa_Nsxw
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>hold to run
why
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>>741071303
there's no quest although there's an unique event if you use the old camp teleport rune found in the xardas sunken tower.
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>>741071537
How is it useful when all it does is remove the ore cost and getting ore is ridiculously easy? And you specifically said no points are needed when that's obviously a lie. What a dumbfuck lmao.
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>>741071579
there is a quest. You can talk to Diego and he'll ask for the sunken tower key in exchange for the armor.
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Are LPs in this as generous as in the OG game? I remember by the end I was swimming in them. Can I spend them in misc skills without fucking me up?
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Is this game worth it? Not very good reviews, i would play on ps5
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>>741071618
gomez forgive my retardation.
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>>741071618
I never found diego again after getting the focus stone with him.
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>climb up a hill
>molerats
>oh easy enemies
>one shot you

Huh i really unlearned how gothic games were back in the day
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My 37 damage sword isn't cutting it these days - where should I go looking for something better?
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>>741071628
if you like a fun game with quite some flaws Sure.
if you want a AAA snoy slop with queers no
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>>741071661
yeah my goof. After xardas gives the armor talk you can talk to gomez about the armor and he'll want a safe place to be which is where the sunken tower key can be traded.
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>>741071626
On normal, yes, on hard, not so much.
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>>741071679
I can fight better in real life than this for once
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>>741071703
damn I just murdered everyone lol. I was wondering what the point of that sunken tower rune was.
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>>741071705
>not so much.
Yeah and it really helps with the tempo. On Gothic lvl progression I could almost everything up by chapter 3
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>>741071686
traders sell better weapons every new chapter
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i can only imagine how mad ex piranha bytes CEO has to be rn

he was so retarded hanging on to his ideals and ran PB into the ground with his retard vision, hanging on to a really old and difficult engine

lmao
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I forgot how you're not supposed to explore from the get go in gothic games completely lmao

Have they changed anything at all? I remember if you're leveld up a bit you can steamroll most areas
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>>741071863
JoWood was just as retarded when they told PB to make g3 more like oblivion.
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>>741071820
But I don't like not being able to bother with misc skills out of fear i'm going to fuck myself.
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>>741071918
i mean i guess the main culprit was pbs ceo though he had to hang onto his absolutely retarded takes on how every game has to be the exact same formula without growing
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>>741071906
If you kinda know what you're doing you can steamroll very easily which is why I put everything on hard.
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>>741071579
Thanks. Exploring the tower right now
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>>741071946
Only ones that are useful are climbing and alchemy, I didn't even bother with animal trophies and I still got cash DESPITE also using a mod that increases all prices.
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>>741071957
Is it? In the beginning at least you get oneshot by basically everything
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>>741071863
all the people responsible for G1 and G2 were gone by the time Risen 2 came out
it's like Obsidian fucking up every game past New Vegas, the devs are completely different but name stays the same
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>>741056512
>+1 str pot in Lee's room
is there? I can't find it. He has a strength ring in his chest though.
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>>741072050
>all the people responsible for G1 and G2 were gone by the time Risen 2 came out
no? risen 2 3 and elex 2 was made by PB anon german studio
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>>741071626
Yeah, Gothic is very much designed with the idea that you master one combat style and still have enough LP to fuck around or get good with another one
For example, if you focus on melee completly you only need level 19 to max out everything. 90 LP for 100 STR, 30 LP to master one-handed, 70 LP to master two-handed.
Ranged is even better off because crossbows and bows are mostly equal and a matter of preference - so its 90 LP for 100 DEX and 30 LP to master either bows or crossbows. Your one by the time you hit level 12.
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>>741072014
yes but you can still deal with it and use missions to farm xp, despite early difficulties you can become insanely strong by chapter 3 to the point where barely anything touches you
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>>741072070
I always go with magic which has more complicated builds though.
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so erm
how exactly is The Sleeper going to bring about the ~end of the world~ when it's trapped miles underground in a cave? even if it gets summoned fully or whatever, it's just kinda boxed into that cave chamber
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SINCE WHEN ARE THERE BLACK PEOPLE IN GOTHIC?!?!
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>>741071703
Does it matter what camp I picked? Because I was exiled from the old camp
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Don't respond to it anons.
Don't take the bait.
Don't derail the thread yet again.
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>>741070858
Nah use https://github.com/89pleasure/G1R-Optimizer
Don't install that engine.ini, it can fuck every effort to fix the problem
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>>741072141
they're criminals
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>>741072174
No it doesn't you still do your missions normally
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>>741072093
Huh, tell me more anon. It's been decades since i played gothic
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>>741072130
why would it want to leave the chamber when it can mind control everyone?
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>>741072130
He is spiritual being, he will just teleport out, or fly like the demon princes in spirit for outside, and then its cthulhu rules
People going insane, chaos of barier falling etc.
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>>741068746
Every single monster design look worse. Except maybe the wolves.
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>>741072204
thanks anon
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>>741072141
>since when there are niggers in prison
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>>741072130
By mindraping junkies into being his slaves.
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>>741072214
Millenia of fart
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>>741072213
What is there to tell? Play the game and let it surprise you with how familiar and new everything is, knowing about how valuable armor is for rings and where to find weapons will help you survive and explore
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any hidden gear that you can grab and run early
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>>741072223
I can accept scavangers too since I don't care about the featherless chicken design. Also armor and runes look more generic and boring in the remake.
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>>741072141
>>741072191
This is the same "person".
The shill will post absurd criticism to debunk them afterwards. He has done so in every single thread.
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>>741072141
Since gothic 1
>Gorn is not black
You are retarded, but in this case since gothic 2
>Abduyin is not black
You are fucking lobotomite
Kingdom of myrthana includes people from northern europe, southern europe, middle east and africa
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>>741072213
rings and amulets with resistance stats on them basically give you godmode when you stack them atop upgraded armor, and you can get a full set of them pretty early on from standard exploration
mage is hardmode, w+m1 fighter is standard, bow+crossbow is 'kill everything from render distance' mode
all three can just stack triple digit armor with zero downside
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OH NONONO NONONONONONONO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>741072130
She is asleep and waking her up is bad. Who knows what she could do once awake.
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>>741072367
Sick
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ngl the swamp is comfier than I expected but my framerate is getting raped here
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>>741072130
Stary niedźwiedź mocno śpi
Stary niedźwiedź mocno śpi
My go nie zbudzimy bo się go boimy
Jak się zbudzi to nas zje
Jak się zbudzi to nas zje
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>>741072374
>she
where's that coming from?
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>>741072435
Look at her original concept art.
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>>741072371
>everyone gets a downgrade in design
>even the males
fucking lol
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>>741072374
>>741072435
sex with evil godlike entities from a hell-dimension (female)(vagina)(womb)(ovaries)
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>>741072435
she makes my dick hard so she's a woman because I ain't no faggot
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>>741072470
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>>741072404
Midnight chilling in the swamp while it rains is unreasonably comfy.
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>night
>its pitch black
bro
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>>741072463
entire game actually but i guess thats just my opinion
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>>741072460
???
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>>741072371
>>741072463
https://youtu.be/AuA28rroJoQ
you culture war retards are whining about boobs when Literally Every Monster Design was completely mishandled by the remake crew
it's inoffensive because it's so fucking generic but it's insane how little people are condemning the total erasure of the original game's designs
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>Old Camp
Pros: Comfiest feel when you get out of your hut and see people hanging out around a fire, most impressive buildings with a castle.
Cons: Hut looks like shit and like you're almost completely unprotected from the cold, wind and rain, feel like a cuck always being in sight of the ore barons in their comfy and luxurious castle and knowing you're just another serf to them.

>New Camp
Pros: The outside areas look beautiful, wide, open, natural spaces. Lots of water. Solid, protective huts, it's got an actual motherfucking tavern.
Cons: The *actual* camp is in a cave, which means no matter what time of day it is, it will always look the same and it will feel extremely static, actually living in the part you're meant to live in removes all the pros of the rest of the camp which are the openness, greenery, high mountain views and water, longest to walk through.

>Swamp Camp
Pros: Comfiest looking huts, unique looking, only camp where the people you meet are consistently nice (except for most of the gurus), one short trek away from a paradise beach.
Cons: You live in a stinking swamp so endless hordes of mosquitos, barely any sights to speak of, your nice neighbours are still constantly going on and on about the Sleeper, your "personal" hut is actually the hut of a guy who died in Chapter 2 so it's just unreclaimed and has a big ass blood stain in the shape of the Sleeper.
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>>741072528
I miss chubby molerats the most.
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Wow the awakening ritual was awesome here. Does the hero also drink crawler spooge if you're not in the cult?
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>>741072524
oh boy shes thick!
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>>741072530
What about equipment/weapons?
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I'm not playing this until I see a crowbcat video to know if it is worth my time.
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>>741072530
On the plus side for the swamp camp, it's full of half-naked sweaty men in decent shape
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Typical rookie scam shite
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>>741072524
Not that one, the other one
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>>741057369
Myers Briggs was a college project two women worked on building off of Jung's Anima/Animus and Shadow ideas (some of his least grounded)
Astrology too? wow, do you want to do your nails together later? maybe get some Boba tea?
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>>741072668
I don't see anything else. You post it.
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>>741072661
His hints are sorta useless too, which is annoying.
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>>741072598
yes, it's honestly the biggest issue of the game, 90% of the story is the same no matter what camp you pic.
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>>741072780
>one (1) thing needed fixing in the remake
>it's the same as before
Lazy spaniards
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>2 iron skin rings
>2 anti-magic rings in my pocket in case wizard fags show up
I'm fucking invincible.
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>>741072304
if you are a bad enough dude you can get the old royal guard armor early in the harpy fortress
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>>741072780
That's practically the piranha bytes formula. Front load everything cool in the first few chapters and make the latter ones a direct linear path to the end.
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>>741072627
>Old Camp
Very "professional army" looking, for a bunch of scavenging convicts. The red makes you stand out the most of all the outfits, warder armor looks the most protective.

>New Camp
Lots of furs at both stages, looks the roughest and most recycled. Cool for that rugged survivalist warrior vibe, but also you kinda look like a random encounter mob.

>Swamp Camp
If you like being half naked this is the camp for you. You won't truly look well protected until maxing out templar armor. So either you like the monk vibe where you beat everyone while wearing the least, or you wait it out until that point at which you get the actual most unique looking armor of the camps with a sort of "swamp samurai" vibe.
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>>741072304
>go in front of the castle guards in old camp
>draw your weapon to turn on standoff mode for the guards
>walk past them and sheathe weapon
>do the same with the guy guarding the keep
>go upstairs
>pick locked door and chest for ore skin ring
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>>741072696
NTA but keep posting rad sleeper concept art
I always thought that OG sleeper looked like minecrawlers, she also does in this fanart, wonder if there was a connection planned at some point
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Fucking hell, I am trying to do the minecrawler quest but Lester and the guys will not start the dialogue scene with me, tried restarted several times and loaded an older save but nothing happens.
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>>741072940
Gothic 2 had different quests and stuff for different factions
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>>741073019
The crawlers were obviously the Sleeper's spawn.
Not to sure anymore after the redesign.
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>>741072530
there is another free hut in the swamp
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>>741073128
That seemed like an obvious implication but it was retconned at some point because no one mentions it and minecrawlers in later games appear to be just a race of monster that inhabit mines all throughout the world, even with other variants like desert sandcrawlers.
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>>741073153
Which one?
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>>741073124
true but the latter half of the game is still very similar and has dreadfully few side quests.
At least your choice of faction now reflects more in the gear
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>>741072697
he is only guy who tolds you how to get mage guru interested
also clue with lester if you are blind or never went anywhere with him
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>>741056426
>>741056490
When the armor is ready, Wold hides in his shed. Its at the highest level of the cave on the bandit side. And I do mean hiding. He's in a corner behind the door so you can't even see him from outside the shed.
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>>741073183
Doesn't explain why their juices are so tasty to the sleeper
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>>741073190
on other side of that big tree where lester and baal hangs about. 3 huts, middle one is free
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>>741072530
>Cons: Hut looks like shit and like you're almost completely unprotected from the cold, wind and rain, feel like a cuck always being in sight of the ore barons in their comfy and luxurious castle and knowing you're just another serf to them.
I always liked sneaking into Raven's room in the OG and using his bed while he stands around like an idiot in the hallway.
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Which would you say is better for my level 17 stabbing hero - +100 health or + 15 blunt and edge?
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>>741073128
>>741073183
>>741073236
I always assumed it was the other way around, with the sleeper being conceptually a descendant of the crawlers because they're so nightmarish they influenced his form through mortal perception.
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>>741073118
you could try beating them up or letting them beat you up (after dropping your stuff in a chest nearby) maybe that resets them
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>>741073293
I find bigger defense to be much better. More health just makes healing take longer.
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>>741073236
Probably just normal drugs but they allow you to connect with supernatural deities, that was big with hippies and satanists back then.

If there was a connection planned it was scrapped early in development because I don't remember anyone ever commenting on it, minecrawlers are treated like a normal part of the world, not even something exclusive to the colony.
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>>741072374
Anon, it's "Der" Schläfer. Just stop. You don't want to put your dick in that.
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>>741073183
>but it was retconned at some point
As soon as Gothic 2. The Sleeper had nothing to do with Beliar (which in turn wasn't an evil god either) in Gothic 1.
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>>741073302
cheers
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>>741073293
less health means less heals to waste, more armor means less healing needed
it's easy as that
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>>741072404
The only place I found comfy in the swamp is the retreat tower where you can smoke a pipe at the top
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so how they will call sleeper when he wakes up?
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>>741073360
>wasn't an evil god either
The fuck are you talking about? The entire expedition is about the claw of Beliar that will fuck up the world and the Dragons serve him too.
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WHY ARE NIGHTS SO FUCKING DARK
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>>741073360
>The Sleeper had nothing to do with Beliar (which in turn wasn't an evil god either)
not even that, Gothic 1 had no gods in the first place. Innos, Adanos and Beliar were invented for G2. the mages weren't priests either, they were just mages. the only mention of Innos was Gomez's sword.
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>>741073424
He means in Gothic 1, which I don't remember ever mentioning Beliar.
The whole cosmology as far as I remember was introduced in G2, in G1 mages were just mages not priests.
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>>741073436
gee dunno, because sun is sleeping?
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>>741073424
Anon... That's a Gothic 2 expansion.
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>>741073436
Turns out without light pollution from big cities night time is dark - who would've guessed!
Also: dark nights work fine on oleds lmao
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>>741073409
Woke Guy
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>>741073483
i have an oled and its pitch black anon
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>>741073436
UE bullshit, you can either config it to look good in the light OR in the dark
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>>741073454
g1 meantions 3 gods but I don't know if there was anywhere more than that
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>>741073436
That's how night works in real life.
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>>741073574
Rape comes next.
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>>741073506
Then turn on HDR
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>>741073574
the goblin rockthrow is pure bullshit
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>>741073454
>Gothic 1, which I don't remember ever mentioning Beliar.
Read the books.
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>>741073632
yeah, no wonder Milten got robbed by them
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>>741073657
Reading is for faggots.
There were books in G1?
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>>741073440
>Innos, Adanos and Beliar were invented for G2
Words of the Gods (1, 2, 3) are Gothic 1 books. Don't you guys read in game books?
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>>741073628
m8 i can't see jack SHIT on my oled
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>>741073682
>Milten got robbed by them
Of all the changes this was the most retarded one.
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>>741073732
It's not just you, looks basically the same for me and if I tweak the settings to make the night bearable it will just look like trash during the day
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>>741073783
Don't remember what the og did but remake Milten has good reason to fuck off and run from the gobbos.
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>>741073791
is renodx updated for this?
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>>741073839
Talas, a swamp sect novice, was the one robbed by black goblins.
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I felt like a cuck when playing as a mage. The sleeper temple was brutal.
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Full templar build 2h sword with a bow

That's OP
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the fuck am I supposed to do here
exploring Xardass' tower to find the runes and shit
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>>741073917
right, I suppose the game just wanted to force us to interact with Milten before you meet him with the guys later
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>>741073930
Lategame Gothic mage gameplay is chugging speed potion, pulling as many mobs as you can then using rain of fire.
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aaaaaaaaand the game crashed
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>>741073975
>force us to interact with Milten
This already happens when you deliver the missive for the fire mages.
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>>741074043
I only had two crashes in 30 hours, both in act 3 kek
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>>741074060
yeah but that one is short and your first meeting, the Almanach quest lets you do him a favour too.
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>>741074112
But why would a fire mage act as a delivery boy for the swamp camp?
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>>741073715
holy fuck I just installed G1 to read the books. I've been living a lie. it is strange that nobody mentions any of that in dialogue tho. I recall it also being stated that the mages split into fire and water after the barrier was made.
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>>741071228
anon if you like immersive games and rpgs, it's a no-brainer. sure there's some jank, but the best games of all time were full of that.
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>>741074159
He's Milten, he's just a convict that the fire mages started training as a joke.
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>>741074159
Books are already rare in the colony and it's a pretty important book too, not something you'd give to some rando.
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>>741074159
What? Milten was never supposed to bring the book anywhere when he lost it, he was just wandering around when he got jumped by them little niggers.
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>>741073973
use magic on the floor in front of you
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>>741074219
I feel like in G1 the Gods were just in-universe fluff, just a monomyth.
It's stated that the mages split after the Barrier, and the mages are not shown to be believers or anything.
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fucking minecrawler queen is way too strong this fight is such a bullshit omg
she hits way too fast, can't even do an attack because she swings so fast
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>>741074256
Does it matter what spell I use?
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>>741074313
What lvl, anon?
I bumrushed her side and just spammed combo attacks and she died in seconds, I was around lvl12 or so
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I am starving now I need archolos 2.0
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>>741074219
Gothic lore is fucked because every single game ended up being rushed out to some degree. Like 80% of the story and shit were done in the final six months of G1s development. Hell, Gothic started as some kind of 3D coop open world game
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Get us a new bread
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>>741074335
look at the symbols on the door/floor
fire/ice/wind
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>>741074335
You have to use all three: fire, ice and wind
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>>741074376
14 level on hard difficulty
i can't even approach her because she instantly spams attacks, doesn't even leave a short window for me to strike back
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Is joining the Fire Mages bugged for anyone else in version 1.0.1.? I Thorus sent me to Corristo, but I have no dialogue option to express my desire to join after that. Did they change the quest start?

>>741074313
Learn to parry. I finished her with an almost pure Mana build without magic in the second phase on hard. You can do it.
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>>741074486
ooooooooh fuck right i totally forgot that you can block/parry
omg
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>>741074486
have you talked to milten?
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I FUCKING HATE JAN HE IS BEATING MY ASS I JUST WANT TO PUNCH SHIT TO DEATH
seriously i just fucking walked over to the new camp guards and parried them like it was fucking nothing but I just eat shit and get 1h kod by this fuckin faggot so I can't master unarmed and I'm actually getting mad
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two handed goes crazy. my build so far has been pure str and like 10 mana and i dont regret it the slightest. just spent all my ires in the armor upgrade though fml (tenplar)
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>>741074550
Yes, at the mist tower. Then again after kicking the troll's ass. No dialogue option for Fire Mages or not even a dialogue at all.
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>>741074467
Thanks fellas, saved me a lot of time there
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>>741074527
i feel so fucking stupid now i forgot about blocking, it's OP as fuck
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>>741074681
is everyone playing this game a pole
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>>741071195
It's a naming problem
Crits are about 10x the damage of normal blows (more like glancing blows really)
NotR was a disaster mechanically, everything sucks
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>real life advertising
lol nice
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>>741074681
I was 100% convinced that you were ironic about forgetting about blocks and parry. Good job!
>>741074727
No, Austrians and Germans play it as well.
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>>741074727
nein
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>>741074743
>it's ok when pollACKS put ads in games
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>>741074219
>it is strange that nobody mentions any of that in dialogue tho.
Exposition dump is bad and disk space too limited for superfluous dialogue.
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>>741074846
its a german game retard
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>>741074921
yea but as little as mentioning a god in their greeting, or farewell line would go a long way.
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>>741074226
>not something you'd give to some rando
In the OG the book was bought by the sectarians because the Fire Mages didn't care about it and were happy to trade it for ore.
Talas isn't "some rando", he was tasked with carrying the book purchased by Cor Kalom from the Old Camp to the Swamp.
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>>741074936
studio located in germany, made by pollACKS living in germany. dumb ad loving piece of shit
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>>741075025
no
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>>741074995
Maybe they didn't want the mages to keep shouting the name of their God without reason.
I recall the dialogue for joining the mages and learning the each of the circles mentioning the God(s), tho.
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>>741075216
But that's what they do in G2
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>>741074936
no it's a spanish game
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>>741075245
Yes, but that's after the retcon.
G1 lore is quite far apart from G2 lore.
Even the colony itself got somehow transported all the way to a small island with a single port town. Changing the Mages and the Gods is nothing compared to that.
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>>741073436
Cuz the other side of the planet is the one facing the sun
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>>741074313
If you go back the tunnel and use a ranged weapon you can find an angle from which she won't spit at you and you can kill her safely.



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