Just completed FF7 Rebirth. Wtf was all that shipping? Will Aerith seriously just crawl back to her exboyfriend in revelation? Wtf Square Enix?
Don't think about it too hard
>>741419153
>>741419090You won't think in that way unless you are some sort of shiteating subhuman lusting over an overly whitewashed secondhand fap material Nomura plagiarized >>741017364 from his personal nasty fap material(s) >>741015751 he jizzed over since 1993(=97-4) aka "Tifa" anyway.
hopefully she won't be in Revelation because she's fucking DEAD
>>741419090She always felt like she enjoys flirting
>>741419090Why is it ex boyfriend? They never broke up
>741419315I need a loremasterIs this anon mocking some twitter shizhoid super autist, or is this anon a known anon and is legit with them feeling serious about this post?The first is funny, but the 2nd would be even funnier. Sorry, I'm a tourist concerning FF7
>>741419090No, but she will always value her dear friend.
I want cute Zack Aerith fanservice even if she ends up with Cloud.
>>741420463Don't worry zackbro, apparently they may end up together
>>741420091Known /v/ schizo, they're 100% serious.They ship a character pairing so hard that they truly HATE another character for being another potential love interest.It's really as insane as it sounds, and they're believed to be in their 40's.
>>741420091Some autistic aerithag, koiamla
>>741420505>>741420219
>>741420610>Gacha
They were never romantically involved>but crisi-it was fanfiction and aside from the ending (which fucking sucks, it turned a tragic sacrifice of a heroic character into WE NEEDED LE GORILLION INFANTRYMEN AND CHOPPERS TO BEAT MY SUPER COOL OC ZACK) the events are largely never acknowledged
>>741420764
>>741420815>posts ""evidence"" from fanfictionkekaroo
Who fucking cares the trilogy is a mess that is cannibalising the original game in the most tedious way
>>741420764Someone needs to do this for Zack
>>741420764>Gacha is canon but not crisis coreLet it go koiamla
>>741420858Is Remake fanfiction?
>>741420858The fuck? Then remake is fanfiction
>>741419090I hope not she would become a whore
>>741420901CC sometimes is not a fanfic but the secondhand bullshit some other shiteating illiterates try to shove into your illiterate coombrain definitely are.
>>741420898Guys, here is my ff7 OC, Zack!>His name is Zack and he was Cloud's bestest friend but he forgot him because of amnesia>He's a cool super powerful soldier, Shinra needed a whole battalion to bring him down>He's kind and strong and has a fanclub and he was always nice to Cloud when he was a failed grunt >He works for shinra but he's actually a good guy and he's also Sephiroth's friend and has a cool mentor that gives him the buster sword>He defeats Genesis who is actually the second best soldier after Sephiroth>Many women like him and he's Aerith's first love and a turk falls in love with him and Yuffie also falls in love with him even when he fought in wutaiHope you like my OC guys!
>>741419090Aerith won't crawl back to anyone because he's dead and she's dead.
Just passing by to say I love Zack.
>>741421156>Cut content that's not even complete and mistranslated is more canon than crisis coreYou are really pathetic
>>741421357I liked the scenes where he took care of a catatonic Cloud and tried to have conversations with him only to be gunned down like a common criminal by Shinra.They'll probably change it all to be worse as they usually do... I know they already retconned Zack to go down fighting in a blaze of glory instead of being shot while trying to help Cloud up to his feet.
>>741421357We know, Aerith
>>741421357>t.
>>741421690>>741371604
>>741421357Based aeris
>>741421764"The player's choices" probably meaning "did you do all of Barret's sidequests so he has a smiley face or not"
>>741419980She's a "flower girl"
I mean ever the shitty movie director cut shoved zack and aerith romance in it
>>741421357You are the passingby No.114514 chick of ZaXcuck?
>>741422276Flower girl means girl sells flowers.Ever heard anything about 饅頭売り from other illiterates living in the shithole with you?
If Aerith is over Zack why does she keep leading him on after he died? Is she a psychopath or something?
>>741422362>>741422458Why are you such a miserable roastie femanon?
>>741422465She is a little slut
I am going to save her. I’m going to enjoy her in the Lifestream part. I’m going to enjoy her variant of the Highwind scene.
>>741419090She never broke up with Zack
>>741419090imagine giving a fuck about anything outside of the original game
>>741419254
did'nt bother with remakes, did aerith actually die or not?I like Zack but from what i've seen they brought him back for fanservice and never did anything with him, also seem completely absent from the trailers.What's the tldr?
>>741419315Can someone translate the contents of the image here into a human language?
>>741423725Youtube has all the scenes and Rebirth was released 2 years ago
>Ok, but what about my pairing?
>>741423725>did'nt bother with remakesYou're not a real fan
>>741423998So forced
I feel like 90% of the people in this topic are genuinely ignorant of FF7's story or they are reacting emotionally to the news that their waifus Tifa and Aerith both remember this "Zack" but not Cloud the First-Class Soldier...I guess it isn't all the Remakefags' fault when they've been left hanging for years with even Aerith's death being questioned.
>>741424482What do you want then? Do you think we want to mourn Aeris' death forever?Or pretend Cloud's backstory was the greatest twist in gaming?
>>741425198Just accept that Cloud either has sex with Tifa or merely sleeps beside her under the Highwind.
>>741425169>>741425048>>741424968>>741424927>>741424792>>741424742>>741424686>>741424628Looks like I called it >>741382342
>>741420906yes
Faggots, a question:Revelation is released, and your crackship loses. What do you do?>muh ship is canon!1! It can't possibly lose! aaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiieeeee!!Humor me.
>>741426852i dont care because its videogames and i can't affect the story so i feel nothing towards it other than dids
>>741426898Then you're not a faggot.Why reply at all?
>>741427001to annoy youthank you for your time
>>741426852Zerith is not a crackship
>>741419090I hope so. They belong together.
Based, all I want is Zack and Aerith together, that's it
>>741427294Are these remake graphics?
Me? Gonna gong that gaga.
>>741419090>zerithfags think they have a place in the shipping spherehes a cheerleader for clerith now. zerith doesnt even make sense in the present since aerith sees through clouds "cool zack" facade that he puts up and wants to know the real him instead. apparently dear destiny ends with aerith learning that zack is actually alive and if thats canon to the remake timeline then why didn't aerith pick him for the dream date? she picked cloud...either the book is irrelevant filler or her feelings for cloud surpass what she once felt for zack (liking and liking convo)
I don't understand why people act as if Aerith and Zack have this deep profound relationship between them. He took her on one date and helped her build her flower cart. That's it. He's away from her for the majority of CC. She keeps writing him because she had a sheltered upbringing and isn't used to male attention.
>>741429020Anon, Cloud and Aerith knew each other for two weeks before she got Masamune'd
>>741429020cause this is a piece of media and "first love forever" is a popular trope. i dont think aerith was his first girlfriend though so i dont even think that applies here?
>>741429168Tidus and Yuna knew each other for probably about a month and fell in love. Squall and Rinoa knew each other for a couple of weeks.
>>741429168Aerith and Could have been through a lot together, though, unlike Aerith and Zack. The time you know someone =/= how deep your bond with them is.
>>741427707Fan render
>>741429168Well you see when it supports my ship two characters can fall in love within the span of a day and stay eternally faithful to each other even after one of them dies. This is not the case for any other potential pairing though, only my one
>>741428545He still has a lot (as in OG) and won't really be a cuck, don't worry about him. >>741422362
How do grown men end up becoming shippers?
>>741429234>Aerith and Could have been through a lot togetherLike what? What have they been through together where the rest of the party wasn't also present? A fight with Reno one time? Cloud beating the shit out of her?
>>741429590Who said the others weren't present? Lol
>>741425471Bro you act like if ff7r and 16 weren't shitposted to death
Aerith is just the Gwen Stacy of Final Fantasy
There's zero form of media where the writing states that the girl is trying to replicate a dead ex boyfriend with another manthere are tonnes of media where the writing has a boy and a girl meeting as strangers and falling in love with each otheroccams razor
>>741429562>men
>>741429872>There's zero form of media where the writing states that the girl is trying to replicate a dead ex boyfriend with another manThis literally does not apply to Cloud and Aerith, in either the OG or remakes. She completely sees through his facade from the start, and wants to know the real him.
>>741429785>call out a blatant shitpost spammer whose posts are 99% of the time about games the thread isn't about>bro shut up, what about... OTHER shitposters?Suck my fat cock, retard.
>>741430080Hell no, imagine begging for pity when that spam is nothing compared to the spam you faggots did against other games
>>741430358Thank you for defending the shitposting on the grounds that there is other shitposting. How about "all shitpost spammers are bad"? No, for "some reason" you MUST defend this one example. He just spends 16 hours a day posting the same shitposts for over a year in every FF thread. What's the problem? That's ok for him to do... because other people also did it? Your argument makes literally no sense unless you ARE him. Are you anti shitpost or not?
>>741430538I'm anti shitpost of course but I was laughing with how little resistance some of you got, did you even complain when the others were attacked? No? Then why should we give a fuck? Hell you already made another thread attacking FF
>>741430776>attackedOh shit man, are you okay?
>>741420858>kekarooWe already knew you were a tranny, you didnt have to reiterate
please god buddha allah let her live this time!!
>>741432135Ask Nomura about that.
>>741432135Already dead in Rebirth. In Revelation she will just stay dead.
its shit
>This is probably going to happenIs it gay if some guy molests you pretending to be your dead gf
>>741420091Misao schizo is literally more obsessed with Tifa than anyone else on this planet. Every single FF/FFVII thread on this board contains his Nomura/Tifa seethe.
>>741420906>no line between Cloud and Aerith, only Aerith to Cloud>no line between Zack and Aerith, only Aerith to ZackHow revealing. Aerith is just a desperate hoe
>>741420018Death did them appart, now both of them are two souls wandering in the life stream through eternity. Wha a miserable existence
>>741425530based
>>741432135She will remain dead, however, after seeing the devs want to have their cake and eat it too, I won't be surprised to see a post credit scene 500 hundred years into the future where we will see two people resembling Cloud and Aerith reuniting again in Midgar chuch. It is retarded, I know, but I am not trying to make sense of this shit show anymore
>>741419090No one is coming back. Everything involving Zack thus far has been him coming to terms with his death. There is no “other timeline”, just the combined memories of those souls in the Lifestream melded together. It’s basically Instrumentality from Evangelion. The only way they are appearing again is during Cloud’s Lifestream spirit journey of self-discovery. The conversation will go something like.>Z&A: “Hello, Cloud.”>C: “You guys…I’m sorry that I couldn’t save you.”>Z&A: “Don’t blame yourself, there’s nothing you could have done. Besides, we died bringing you closer to the ultimate goal of saving everyone, alive and dead, and we wouldn’t change that.”>C: “You have lifted an immense weight off my shoulders, and helped me to find my true self in the process (and ensured that I won’t become an emo faggot in Advent Children. I will take this newfound strength with me into the battles to come. Thank you.”>Z&A: “It’s now time to depart, because we have a mission of our own. While you’re fighting Shinra, Jenova, and Sephiroth in the land of the living, we will be fighting to sever their influence over the Lifestream for good (ensuring that Geostigma will never happen, and Sephiroth will never be able to respawn).”
>>741437014And this point it's not even really Seph anymore, just Jenova using his image.
>>741438705Sephiroth canonically took over Jenova, it’s why the reunion is centered around him at the northern crater rather then Jenova’s main body
>>741439118For all purposes Sephiroth is Jenova. He was injected with Jenova cells when he was fetus in his mom's womb. It doesn't matter which one is driving when they both have the same destination. Sephiroth simply makes more interesting antagonist character over space virus
Aerith will obviously be saved lmao, that's the whole point of the trilogy, to save her so Cloud is not left unhappy
>>741429590They've gone on a million dates, and he undoubtedly spends more time with her than anyone else in the main games.
>>741429224Trvke, but shitposters will deny it
>>741423725>did aerith actually die or not?Nobody knows, timeline fuckery is involved. Cloud saw Sephiroth coming and deflected his thrust and spared Aerith, but then the timeline glitched out and Aerith died anyway. Or so it seems. She's either talking to him now from the Lifestream or from another timeline, Cloud knows he saved her but nobody else but him can see her apparitions.And Zack is in a similar state. In an alternate timeline he survived his last stand and arrived at Nibelheim with Cloud, who was still suffering from Mako poisoning. But while looking for mercenary work he heard of AVALANCHE getting captured and their helicopter crashing, which included Aerith. Aerith wound up in a coma, and all other AVALANCHE members were killed, but Cloud was apparently among them and escaped, independently from the Cloud we've been following or the one Zack brought back with him. Then Sephiroth appeared and consigned Zack to the space between timelines as an annoying intruder, not worth his time. It's weird and unexplained.
Does the schizo in the 4th post still lose their mind into an autistic posting spree melty when it's pointed out that the OG has an optional implied sex scene between Tifa and Cloud? Or have they gotten over that finally?
Is Tifa submissive in the bedroom or does she take the initiative?
>>741441009Tifa's appeal is her personality is such a blank slate you can answer that question in any way you find most hot and it "suits her personality"The key to her appeal is letting anyone project whatever they want onto her.
>>741419090Cloud lost...
>>741441009Tifa personality-wise is portrayed as submissive and a constant people-pleaser.Aerith is portrayed as generally more assertive personality-wise.That's not an endorsement or insult to either of them for any weird shipper weirdos that might be waiting to pounce in this thread.
I can definitely imagine Tifa being more submissive than Aerith, which goes against the way she presents herself (tomboy who beats people up). All in all, I think sex with Aerith would be better.
I just finished all the shit in gongaga, what the fuck am I even playing anymore, this shit is ass
>>741441009Definitely submissive. She has no sexual confidence.
>>741442953You don't need to 100% everything. The Protorelic quest leading to the double summon battles and finally to Gilgamesh expects you to have beaten the story and after beating the story you get triple the EXP and AP from fights. The Chadley intel purchases also have excess materia you don't need so don't feel forced to 100% the map intel stuff. Focus on character sidequests for the character you want to go on date with and Chocobo digging for new equipment recipes. You will burn yourself out in Cosmo Canyon if you try to 100% on the first playthrough. After the date you can do all the remaining character sidequests and beating Nibelheim opens up new side quests in previous areas.
>>741440771Tifa actually briefly sees the alternate universe when she’s running towards the alter(you see her PoV and the blood appears and reappears) so it’s definitely not only Cloud that can see it
>>741419315Aerith is dead, get over it you fucking freak.
>>741420219Not canon.
>>741420764Somehow this counts as canon according to Aerith schizos, >>741420219 but not Crisis Core? How convenient.
>>741446915Yes canon>>741447017Crisis core is canon to the compilation dude
>>741423998I didn't see what you meant until now
>muh video game ships u guys!!!No grown men should give a shit about this
Aerith will be saved regardless of how much you cry, better accept it now.
>>741447405Not canon, but what is canon is the fact that Aerith is very dead.
>>741447729I saved her. Mald.
>>741447632He's hallucinating her being alive, nobody else even reacts to her presence. Bitch is deader than my grandmother.
>>741447868Wrong. They bothered to include the rainbow effect to show a timeline where she's saved was created.
Briana White should do porn.
>>741447868Your grandmother is coming back in part 3!
>>741447964Great, then she can get back with Zack.
>>741448094Kek
Where is Zack now anyway?>in the churchNo shit. What timeline? And why the fuck is it in under the sea guarded by Weapons?
>>741447868It is NOT just Cloud, Tifa sees the alternate universe for a split second and Red XIII senses her as well
>>741447864And you did.
>>741448248So do you guys expect Cloud to peace out on Tifa and jump to this alternate timeline to be with Aerith or something? Because that sounds retarded. Or do you think that Cloud and a Cloud 2 will be be with both of them simultaneously? Because that also sounds retarded.
>>741448726Just wait a year and find out, nigga
>>741448126>>741420219Nojima literally call Cloud and Aerith lovers in AC
>>741448726You expect him to end up unhappy again after 3 huge games and all the fate stuff? That's retarded
>>741448796AC isn't canon to the Remake trilogy timeline.
>>741448726Alt universe Aerith will cross over back to the main one. We know this can happen because of the White materia
>>741448918Yes? It's the prequel
>>741448865Just answer the question, anon.
I WANT THE ALTERNATE PARTY TO BE ZACK AERITH ANGEAL GENESIS CISSNEI.IT BETTER HAPPEN SQUARE ENIX.
>>741419090if you EVER felt stupid, just remember there are genuine people out there who thinks SE is gonna cuck zack and Tifa, their most popular characters
>>741448243>Aerith, listen to me>The real world is a mess>Life in the ruined world is so much better than anything they got up there>Under the sea, under the sea>Darling, it's better>Down here where it's wetter>Take it from me>We are what Sephy wants to cook>Under the waves we're off the hook>We got no troubles, life is the bubbles>Under the sea
>>741448993Cloud and Tifa, Zack and AerithI know Japan loves NTR, but to think they purposefully brought back Zack just to cuck him is laughable
aerith is just jealous and petty but tifa ain't pure either
>>741448993Aerith will be saved in the main timeline.
>>741419090I have a spoiler for youAerith is fucking dead
>>741449037>NOOO you can’t cuck Tifa and Zack!>cucking Cloud? A-ok!
>>741449414Refute this
>>741419090They are chilling together in Lifestream in Advent children. This is canon and Square won't retcon it.
>>741449203Zackfags would be absolutely livid if they did him dirty like that.
>>741449203He still has dozens behind the girl he likes (((THE MOST))) (((RIGHT NOW))), and won't really be an illiterate cuck like you irl. >>741429494>>741422362
Meanwhile Zack
>Tifafags panicking after all these Hamaguchi interviewsThey deserve it after the shit they pulled in the lead up to Rebirth
>>741450097Who's this?
You people lack the brain capacity to understand a basic story. Zack wasn't cucked, Aerith moved on after 5 years and finding out he was a flirt so he probably left with another woman.She falls in love with Cloud for real, even if Zack is back she can't undo being in love with Cloud, feelings don't work like that. She still cares about Zack. You people are insufferable.And Cloud didn't cuck Tifa, he owes her nothing.
>>741451662Reminder that Cloud kissed Tifa while Aerith died a kissless virgin.
>>741448796He also thinks time jannies was a good idea, so no one gives a shit what he says.
>>741452018Reminder Cloud canonically sees Tifa as a one-night stand, according to the devs.
>>741451662>>741452018Aerith hugged Zack from behind in Crisis Core when Angeal died and Zack was sad. I think that was most intimate we see main character. Aerith's mom and dad hugged too in the Icicle Inn video and Lucrecia and Hojo hugged too in Vincent's flashback. I dont remember if there's any more intimate than that shown in the FF7 games before Rebirth kiss and handholding. Oh yeah Yuffie kissing Cloud on cheek. And Cloud performing CPR on Priscilla
>>741450923Kinda surprised Kunsel hasn't been shoehorned in somehow.
>>741452391Kunsel was in Remake Shinra HQ. He recognized Cloud and Cloud rushed Tifa and Barret away and avoided talking with Kunsel
>>741452391He was mentioned already in remake, there’s that scene in the Shinra building where Cloud runs into some trooper who recognizes him and says he’ll find Kunsel
>>741452494>>741452508Oh fuck, so he was!Completely forgot about that.
>>741452494That guy isn’t Kunsel, he says he’s going to find him
>>741452665Tomato, tomato
>>741452018optional. its not relevant to the main story at all. pic-related cannot be refuted
>moves to Zack’s shithole village to take care of his senile old parentsIs there anyone owed sex more then Cissnei
>>741452382>comforting a grieving friend means they literally love each other forever guysAre Zackfags actually just autistic incels?
>>741452382
>>741453461t. Kissless virgin
>>741452235Your point? Aerith still died a virgin while Tifa got to ride big Cloud cock.
>>741419153"ha ha I don't really know" always seems to be the stock standard Japanese video game writer response to no life pathetic loser waste of human life oxygen thief autistic fan theories and always should be
so how come as a normal ff7 player do I only ever see the weird aerith shippers but haven't really seen any of the tifa shippers spaz out?does it depend on platform, and /v/ is mostly just spazzing aerith autists and the tifa autists are on twitter? or something else? I don't use twitter so I don't see that side
>>741457043and this is why nobody takes anything Japan writes seriously
>>741457639/v/ is an Aerith board, yes
>>741457639pretty much
>>741457994I want to see Tifa melties because I only ever constantly see Aerith melties all over hereSomeone needs to post some twitter screenshotsshipper tears are always hilarious
>>741458119>I only ever constantly see Aerith melties all over herewhat melties?
>>741457639Because Aerith fags are insane, Tifa bros will bide their time until release day then put the schizos in their place.
>>741458119it's not worth it, the tifa-side shippers aren't nearly as autistic as the aerith ones on /v//v/ gets the crazy 40 year old in the 4th post all the time, and she can singlehandedly post all aerith-side meltdowns all on her own even if there weren't others.
>>741458119The twitter shipping war is way worse than here somehow despite people here freely calling Tifa and Aerith whores all the time. I think it’s because there are more women there.
>schizo babblesilverwield...
>>741448726I wanted that option after being subjected to a multiverse and time jannies and zack however since it has been stated that there is only one ending, no I do not think that will occur.
OG is the fate of the characters, and we're fighting said fate in the remakes. Aerithbros, it's coming home.
>>741458354>Tifafag saying this after what happened with Rebirth’s release
>>741458704tifa won so hard in rebirth as someone who likes aeris in the og and aerith in remake. they gave tifa aeris's relationship to cloud in rebirth and made aerith the one with an awkward misconnection to cloud. tifa should have that at this point and they should finally connect after the mideel scene. t. played the original as an adult so understood the relationship subtext
>>741459043what are you even talking about?
>>741459043Tifa has always had a deeper connection with Cloud, you didn't understand shit.
>>741459379>Tifa has always had a deeper connection with CloudYet it was Aerith, not Tifa, who noticed that Cloud put up a cool guy facade. She knows theres the real him has yet emerge, this was even true to the OG. You didn't understand anything either.
>>741459242that they gave tifa and cloud the more romantic scenes and a better tone to their romantic interactions like the date and the gongaga scene at the point in time where aeris is supposed to have those. the fairest reading of FFVII's love triangle, imo, is>cloud has a crush on tifa and wants to date her but is insecure so he tries to join soldier to be "good enough">fails and in shame doesn't show his face in nibelheim, then gets his brain scrambled by hojo>meets tifa again and gets roped into domestic terrorism>falls in love with aerith after falling through the roof since she takes the lead >she dies>tifa puts his mind back together in mideel>gets with tifa now that they both fully understand each otherFFVII isn't a true love triangle it's cloti then clerith then cloti
>>741423998
>>741459456Tifa's the only girl to get him to kiss her in Rebirth and the only girl to fuck him in OG FF7, never was Aerith anything more to Cloud than a casual flirt.
>>741459578>big khazarian milkersHow can a human ironing board like Aerith even compete?
>>741459620The kiss is optional, it hasn't been mentioned in the main story. And they never had sex in the OG, even with high affection, the most they do is cuddle up.
>>741459741Optional or not, she's the only girl to get that intimate with Cloud. Twice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KikPJ8gUPQ
>>741459832And none of that matters since Cloud still has no definitive romantic outcome. Hamaguchi recently spoke of this.
>>741459853>"totally just childhood friends, guys," said the increasingly nervous clerith schizo
>>741459557>cloud has a crush on tifa and wants to date her but is insecure so he tries to join soldier to be "good enough"I do believe he had a crush on her in childhood, but she wasn't the only reason he wanted to become a solider. She was the initial reason, but he also wanted to be accepted by the town + he wanted to be like Sephiroth, who he idolized.>gets with tifa now that they both fully understand each otherBut they aren't an established couple in AC.
>>741459691>khazarian milkersThat's a myth pushed by yentas, they actually use surgery for that and boobs augmentation is their most popular surgery alongside nosejob
>>741459998It does matter, there are zero moments between Cloud and Aerith that ever get that intimate, it's just shallow puppy love.
>>741460057>But they aren't an established couple in AC.they're a couple but estranged because cloud is a depressed mailman with aids
>>741460057AC was made when they didn't know Tifa was that popular and they still wanted to bait shippers
>>741460146>there are zero moments between Cloud and Aerith that ever get that intimateThey snuggle up on the default date. If you mean a kiss, why would that happen in Part 2 when she still wants to find the real him? I'd rather it happen in Part 3 after real Cloud emerges, it just makes the most sense narrative-wise.>>741460152No, they aren't. Not even Nojima knew if things would work out for them outside of the aids issue.
this war is never going to end, is it
>>741460057
>>741460329
>>741460356>>741460493Yes, together as in a found family with everyone else. They also live with Barret and Marlene I think. Here's another statement by Nojima.
>>741460329Holy cope, Aerith died never having tasted Cloud's lips or having had his member thrust inside her. Tifa won, you lost.
>>741460554Cloud, Tifa, Denzel and Marlene live together as a family. Not with Barret. Cloud's family is his Promised Land
>>741460595Wait, wheres the coping? I don't know if we're getting a kiss, but it would make most sense for it to happen in the third game. I would also prefer for his brain to not be all scrambled if he and Aerith do end up kissing since it would put an end to the retarded and inane "he only likes aerith cause he's zack" copes.
>>741460765>Cloud, Tifa, Denzel and Marlene live together as a family.Uh no? Barret went away, but he's still the father of Marlene. Why do you guys always erase his character in all of this?
>>741460810It's not cope when it's true, Jenova's cells have the power of mimicry and Zack was the only person close to Cloud at the time of his infusion.
>>741460765>be tifa>love rival has been dead a couple of years now>cloud still doesnt care for you romantically>brings a kid home cause he believes aerith brought him to him>will never be his most cherished person, will always be the second choice if he decides to give you a chancebeing tifa is suffering
>>741460993See >>741460595
>>741460907nta but a stepdad abandoning the child to travel the world is probably why. they're not actually related so they need to be together to be family.
>>741460945Well we know he acts like Zack around Tifa, Ultimania confirms this.
>>741461071He's still her canon father even if he went away to find resources? Leaving her in Tifa's care doesn't take away from his role.
>>741460146If their moments are not romantic, then why do clotifags crash out while streaming and playing through their (non-optional) scenes?
Canon levels:>OGmassive tier gap>Compilation retconsmassive tier gap>Spinoffs and non-video game media
Crisis Core Cloud and Aerith would be cute
>>741461325>Canon levels:>>OGtrue
>>741461269he's her step dad in FFVIIhe abandoned her in AC
>>741461396gr8 bait
Did square replace the highwind one night stand with the hug and kiss?
Tifa only thought something was up because the fine details didn’t add up. She found the Soldier persona itself completely in character for how she remembers Cloud and most of her scenes involve him leaning into it. Of all the characters she’s the one who reinforces it the most. She was never friends with him as a kid and by her own admission didn’t know him very well.
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>>741461457>putting aside any feelings for tifakek why did they constantly shit on cloud/tifa in ultimania
>>741461514he didn't like her shoes
>>741461514This scene makes her death hit that much harder in the OG. I guess they removed it because they plan on reviving her? Same reason they messed up her iconic death scene.
>>741460907Marlene has 2 dads
>>741461273Because they're idiots, there's no need to be insecure when Tifa is getting all the Cloud action, while Aerith does her usual genki girl act.
>>741461621No, just one.
Aerith wanted kids in the novel
>>741461650What action do you think Tifa has gotten exactly? Non optional examples if you can.
>>741461718No it says Marlene is part of Cloud's family but Barret is also her dad in the same paragraph.
>>741461273Because deep down they know the truth.
>>741453661she is there more out of her own guilt at her involvement in what happened to Zack than whatever romantic feelings she may have towards him (which are there, undoubtedly). Cissnei was born inside Shinra and raised to be a Turk, basically, so she has issues.
>>741461273Cause they know it's all an illusion and that the default route pushes Aerith. So they go for the optional kiss with Tifa only to be hit with a canon dream date that ends with hand-holding between the two. In their playthroughs they have to justify Cloud being unfaithful to Tifa.
>>741451395A nobody on Tumblr
>>741453661Her outfit clashes so bad with the rest of the cast, it's so blatantly from Nomura's mid 00s Kingdom Hearts belts and zippers fetish era
>>741461830So we agree...Barret is her dad with the others being members of their found family.
>>741461843well she has leaks apparently but she also crashed out with the clerith water tower scene so idk if she really does have leaks
>>741461936And Cloud is also Marlene's dad
Revelation will play out exactly like Remake/Rebirth. The main plot will be as neutral as they can make it (but still Aerith leaning because she’s the secondary MC), the Aerith route will interweave perfectly into the main plot and you get a full coherent narrative if you take it, and then the Tifa route will kinda work but will have inconsistencies with the main plot (like in Rebirth where you get the Tifa date but the final chapters still remain Aerith heavy)
We already have leaks, there's no need to worry
>>741461936Barret is her adoptive father, and I doubt there is any paperwork invovled in that on Gaia, so Barret is effectively found family as well. Barret in AC is running around surveying for oil, which is why Marlene is in the care of Cloud and Tifa.
>>741462024Marlene sees him as an older brother figure
They were in love with eachother and anybody denying it are blind.
>>741462024No, but Tifa is Cloud's mom
>>741462043>from what I have been toldgreat source.
>>741462102It says there child to the family
>>741462043rare tifasister nvke
>>741462036Yeah, Hamaguchi basically spoiled that we're still not getting a definitive Cloud romance, which is really no shocker to anyone who played the OG. The one ending will be ambiguous enough for either side to claim victory unless they end up pushing Aerith a bit more.>>741462089Well yeah we know he's the adoptive father. My point is that Barret is her only father figure, she doesn't view Cloud in that light. They all make up one big found family.
Why did they make her so sexy in the remake?
>>741462120If they were going to put these two together they’d have laid some actual ground work in the first two games. And they certainly wouldn’t have had that scene with Marlene where Zack gets told that Aerith loves Cloud.
>>741462259Zack will fuck THIS?????
>>741462043this wannabe leaker was kicked out of her family groupchat because of all the crashing out she did with remake. why is she still trying to come off as legit?
>>741462261>they certainly wouldn’t have had that scene with Marlene where Zack gets told that Aerith loves Cloud.She told him that she "likes" cloud because he wasn't there
>>741462290no, this
>>741462120Did you learn nothing from Rinoa? She also had a previous lover but moved on.
>>741462261its because crisis core was written after and wasn't properly implemented into the timeline until after the fact. cloud reminds aerith of zack for obvious reasons so her attraction is only because she misses zack.
>>741462337No.
>>741461842Wow, your evidence for the supposed "intimacy" between Cloud and Aerith is a play in which they're both playing characters who are supposed to be a couple? A play that, might I add, also has a Yuffie and Tifa version? Well done, Inspector Clouseau.
>>741462259They didn't. She always was.
>>741462376sure but aerith only moved on because zack died. but with the timeline shenanigans there's a very high chance they can end up together where they can get their happy ending together or atleast be in the lifestream together.the game is leaving it very open with who cloud ends up with anyway with the whole golden saucer date thing so i wouldn't be surprised if there's no canon pair for cloud.
>>741458354>Tifa bros will bide their timeLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741462036Aerith being a glorified plot device has no bearing on her relationship with Cloud.
>>741462480Anon that’s a screenshot from the ending of Rebirth with the play costumes modded in.
Timeskip surprise
>>741462337you should probably look into what that saying says in the original Japanese.
>>741462563It’s almost like the LSS isn’t actually about Tifa or Colti. Perhaps it is and has always been about Cloud and Tifa just happened to a part of it?
>>741462480Bro just outed himself that he didn't play the game lol
>guy saves your life>/v/ KHVs think it's cool to try to steal his girland this is why you will die friendless and alone
>>741462563the fact that even the tifafags havent come up with theories on new tifa scenes says it all really
>>741462729CC was a retcon bro
Cloud is destined to give his seed to wutai's greatest warrior to bring forth a new generation of super soldiers.
>>741462563Practically nothing about Tifa has been faithfully recreated from the OG which only tells me that nothing about her back then was all that important.
>>741462772>CC was a retcon bro>is described as happening in the OG gameonly canon that matters and anyways, the same fucking scene was shown in the demakesYou lose
>>741462731Because everything they dream of happening has been overblown in their minds to the point they have sanctified those scenes, or they simply want what Aerith has. Oh, Aerith got a big dress reveal? We want that in the next game. Aerith got a big musical number? We want that in the next game. They have no imagination outside of trying to usurp Aerith as the main heroine
>>741462827CC jamming in shit like this is why I fucking hate it so much.
>>741462563For the last fucking time braindead shippers, THE LIFESTREAM IS NOT "TIFA'S SCENE".We've lost the plot so damn much people see the main character as filler on his own self discovery sequence. Junon is Tifa's scene, slapping Scarlett is Tifa's scene. Cloud uncovering his past is about him. Maybe the changes are good if dumb fucks can't understand that.
>>741462772zack woncloud fags keep crying
>>741462829>which only tells me that nothing about her back then was all that important.This is the uncomfortable truth Tifafags don't want to admit.
>>741462772CC was not a retcon, it was just a more in depth view of events that were not explored in FF7. The Last Order was a retcon, which is why people hated it.
>>741462120I think SE might actually be naive enough to think that throwing clerith schizos this particular bone will placate them, which is why I want it to happen so badly.
>>741462563Northern crater, the scene of Sephiroth breaking Cloud, is now a Tifa scene? What other Tifa scenes are there?
>>741462557>but with the timeline shenanigans there's a very high chance they can end up together where they can get their happy ending together or atleast be in the lifestream together.Yeah that's what I thought when learning that Zack is alive in another world, but then we got the scene of Marlene telling him that Aerith has moved on, Zack accepting it, and then supporting Cloud to save Aerith. And then the whole dream date? I think ZA will have a reunion, but it'll be a final goodbye, the one they never got.
>>741462896>THE LIFESTREAM IS NOT "TIFA'S SCENE".Tell that to Tifafags who think the Lifestream scene is where Tifa heals him through the power of her love!
>>741462729It's a serious story, it's not like Cloud and Aerith knew. Get over it.
>>741462827She only cares about Vincent now. Zack and Cloud btfo.
>>741462885Basically. I mean Tifa is essential to LSS, no one ever said differently, but it's ultimately about Cloud. Tifa is an important secondary main character, but she's not THE main character of FF7. All these accounts who love Tifa, but not one can conjure up a new scene that focuses solely on her character, it's all ship talk.
>>741462731Yeah, it says they don't need to because Tifa is actually, y'know, alive.
>>741463160so they dont want more lore for her character?
>>741463135>All these accounts who love Tifa, but not one can conjure up a new scene that focuses solely on her character, it's all ship talk.because that's the only reason she has any value in their minds. If it's not ship related, they do not care
>wait for meis cloud gonna kill himself?
>>741462953The shipping question was answered back in AC, when Cloud told Sephiroth that was nothing he did not cherish (which meant his feelings were equal). Shippers have never cared how Cloud felt, only whether Aerith or Tifa "deserved" Cloud's affection more.
>>741462563If Tifa is so great, why do they have to steal Cloud's scenes? Of those three, I only give them the under the highwind one, and even then only the high affection version because it is indeed very fanservicey. The low affection is Cloud looking for his own answers.Mideel could count as a Tifa scene I guess, but NC and LS are all about Cloud, even if Tifa plays a part.
>>741462829>change her completely >she becomes popular really makes you think
>>741463270Yep
>>741462772>cherrypicking canonicity when it's convenientTypical.
>>741463241do these people, same with clerith streamers, have real jobs? i couldnt imagine making videos like this and having someone i work with recognize me
>>741463421i wholesale reject the entire compilation
>>741463273How does that end shipping? Isn't saying everything is special a way of saying you don't prefer anything in particular?
>>741463241LSS is literally all they have. There’s no other non optional interaction that can be construed as romantic. The Tifa route in OG is picking the flirty dialogs in Midgar, ignoring Aerith for dear life, go through the awkward date and waiting for this scene. Even if you take the LSS as a love confession the story does nothing to earn it.
>>741462905What a slut, offering "dates" to random men she encounters in dirty alleys, Tifa would never.
>>741463336Indeed. She was just blank slate coombait that they had to try to build an actual character around once the franchise took off.
>>741463483>the story does nothing to earn it.Same with the optional kiss scene from Rebirth that they cling to for dear life. They somehow think that it's suppose to carry them over the finish line when compared with canon scenes of Aerith confessing to Cloud and him hugging her + entwining their fingers together like a couple at the end
>cait's fortune: you will lose what you cherish most>loses Aerith >Sephiroth: tell me what you cherish most >Cloud: there's nothing I cherish most anymore, everything's equally important nowReally makes you think
Tifa was a midget.
>>741463483I think having two love interests really screwed everything up. Aerith is pushed in the default content because Cloud is going to lose her, but when you do lose her, you still have optional content with Tifa which feels out of place depending on how you've played the game. By the end, sure only one girl is alive, but Cloud is dreaming of the promised land in hopes of reuniting with Aerith, who is obviously the thing he cherished the most and lost.
>>741463463It means his feelings are equal. And Nomura keeps it equal in the end, by first showing Tifa making googly eyes at Cloud in the church at the end of the movie, and then Aerith watching over him while he is riding his bike in the original Japanese credits. The remake project is closing the triangle, by going out of their way (per Nojima) to show how much Aerith and Tifa were friends and loved each other.
>>741463716>love rival dies>still losebeing tifa is SUFFERING
Is this a deal or should I wait for them to go cheaper?
>>741463740Yep, and you can tell Square hates that they made that mistake with how far they are going in the opposite direction to prioritize Aerith. Tifafags can cope all they want because the devs have been dancing around things just enough to give them hope, but Revelation is already proving to finally nip misconceptions in the bud and choose one girl once and for all.
>>741463716why would he cherish a canon used good
How Cloud will look at Aerith on their wedding
>>741463836>but Revelation is already proving to finally nip misconceptions in the bud and choose one girl once and for all.An as Aerithfag, I actually disagree. I think the one end is going to be nakama/found family centered with no definitive romance for Cloud. I think the default content leading up to the ending will push Aerith as usual, but they probably have something for Tifa as well. They don't have it in them to alienate one side of the fanbase.
>>741463793>love rival dies>becomes immortal goddess patron of humanity in the Lifestream>Tifa is stuck with growing old, dying, and fading into the lifestream.>Aerith can have Cloud forever in a World without a Tifatifa is the ultimate loser.
>>741463826Don't be a cheapass and buy it already
>>741463930>An as Aerithfag, I actually disagree. I think the one end is going to be nakama/found family centered with no definitive romance for Cloud.I agree, they telegraphed that with the Party XP in Rebirth and way they did the announcement trailer for Revelation.
>>741463914the red dress scene is too good. im surprised tifa didnt get something similar haha
>>741463740Yeah, they made it deliberately ambiguous so they could pander to both bases, I'm glad they stopped doing that shit in their subsequent games. The constant teasing gets tiresome, just pick a fucking lane already.
>>741464023Yeah it makes the most sense from every angle. It also evades the "how will they be friends liking the same guy" question.
>>741463930>They don't have it in them to alienate one side of the fanbase.You don't think the last quarter of Rebirth already did that? I think it was very obviously setting Cloud and Aerith up for a romantic ending
>>741463930Except, with Tifa being alive still, people will just automatically assume they get together as she's the only available option. That's assuming they don't bring miss flower girl back, anyway.
>>741464162>It also evades the "how will they be friends liking the same guy" question.Nojima has been working on that with Traces of Two Pasts and showing them as BFFs thru most of Rebith (only point of friction was in the Kalm tunnel where Aerith trolled Tifa). And in the Revelation trailer, when Tifa is in her Black Mage outfit casting a spell, she says "I'll make you proud" which is obviously targeted at Aerith.
>>741464162>It also evades the "how will they be friends liking the same guy" question.Look at how the story sidestepped the "how will they be friends liking the same girl" question with Zack and Cloud. They just had a 3rd party, Marlene, let Zack know about her feelings and he took in on the chin. I think you're being overly cautious because you don't think the devs have it in them to actually end the love triangle, but they have been laying the foundation for that for years now.
>>741464041They said they made it equal, so in their minds they added something equivalent. Maybe Tifa actually holding him in the collapsed platform?
>>741464223>Except, with Tifa being alive still, people will just automatically assume they get together as she's the only available option.They have always assumed that, though, but there is really no evidence it happened. Dirge happens after AC, but there is very little of Cloud and Tifa in it, and what little there is has nothing remotely about their relationship.
>>741464223>Except, with Tifa being alive still, people will just automatically assume they get together as she's the only available option.Well yeah, but they've been doing that since AC despite Cloud and Tifa not being an established couple. The only thing that could change this is if he does a get reunion with Aerith that plays as romantic. If they don't revive her. However they go about I think both sides will be content desu, the only side that will lose is Zerith due to Aerith moving on which is something we witnessed as the player. >>741464213No I really don't believe they have it in them.
>>741463930It is supposedly the last game in VIIverse so if there was a time to make a decision it would be now. Alienating people wouldn’t matter if there’s nothing to sell after this. I think you’re right though that they don’t have the balls to commit to one route. Which is a shame because I’d rather be wrong than have an ambiguous ending.
>>741464041It got canonised in Rebirth too
any thoughts on what her sweaty spats smell like?
>>741464495>I think you’re right though that they don’t have the balls to commit to one route. Which is a shame because I’d rather be wrong than have an ambiguous ending.The fact that they kept the affinity system in the new game was enough proof that they never intended on picking one girl. Even if the default route is Aerith-heavy, they still wanted to leave the door open for Tifa.
>>741464491I'm choosing to believe in the devs. One last time.
>>741464429The problem is that the shipping question will only end with Cloud expressing a preference, not Aerith or Tifa. Aerith and Tifa's feelings have been known for decades. "Making things equal" just means maintaining the status quo, not necessarily Cloud showing an "equal" preference for both.
I want the X crossover. I want to see if they redesign Yuna's outfit like Garnet's.But I doubt it, feels like they don't put effort anymore.
>>741464491They’ve been so careful in AC and beyond. Squint at his living situation and you see him and Tifa living as a family, but also he’s depressed and wallowing in grief over Aerith. If nothing else they’ve walked the tightrope very well.
you're all just asukafags and reifags in the end
>>741464495>It is supposedly the last game in VIIverselol, no. Its likely the last game where the original crew is involved in it, but there is no way SE is putting their most popular property to bed forever. Evercrisis is still going on, for example.
>>741419090What a coincidence. I just started the game yesterday. None of the reviewers mentioned that there were FEET in this game... Seriously though, I have no idea how I liked JRPGs so much growing up. They're painfully on-the-rails and I've spent the majority of the time in the game so far watching damn cutscenes. Video games are to be played, not watched.
>>741464615The same devs who downplayed how NPTK is clearly about Clerith meeting? They realized they gave a bit too much to Clerith, and had to retcon it..making it about everyone Aerith met.
>>741464694true patricians know there is only one real answer.
>>741464694Tifa is Rei tho. Bland character waifufags latched onto.
>>741464683>If nothing else they’ve walked the tightrope very well.For sure and I believe they'll continue to do so. They don't have an interest in giving Cloud a definitive romance, something they could have easily done in AC or the remakes or the novels or hell even in the gachaslop.
>>741464620>"Making things equal" just means maintaining the status quo, not necessarily Cloud showing an "equal" preference for both.This is why I feel like the devs are finally making a choice. In remake Aerith asked Cloud if Tifa was his girlfriend and he said no with no hesitation, no awkwardness or anything to suggest he's covering up his feelings. With Tifa asking the same question later on about Aerith, he hesitates and does not answer. That right there is him expressing a preference.
>>741464707There’s room for a post Dirge entry to bridge the gap between the old timeline and the beginning of Remake.
>>741464615They have delivered so far
>>741464683>Squint at his living situation and you see him and Tifa living as a family, but also he’s depressed and wallowing in grief over Aerith.AC actually makes it clear that while they are living in the same building, they dont share a bed. Clouds normal bedroom is the same as his office, and the room you see Tifa wake up in and they argue in is Marlene's and Denzels (which you see at the beginning).
>>741462557do you remember that scene in rebirth chapter 13 where that slain shinra grunt turns into a frog.that's whats going to happen to zack after the game ends
>>741464835True, but there is a weird tension with Tifa, even in the default content.
>>741464732Nojima is a bitch who was getting death threats thrown at him and his pet hamster at the time so of course his old ass is going to try and walk it back a bit, to which Nomura and Kitase looked at him awkwardly afterward. It's obviously meant to be toward Cloud.
>>741464887That’s why I said “quint”. It can look that if you want it to, but there’s enough details for it not to as well.
>>741464848its possible that the Remake project iself is that bridge; I personally believe it takes place "after" AC, and is simply a repeat of AC, just another attempt at Sephiroth taking over the world and Aerith (much more accustomed to her abilities in the Lifestream post AC) working to stop him.
>>741463826you can save $17 by removing the one on the bottom
>>741464927>but there is a weird tension with TifaThe tension comes from them not being on the same page; not knowing how to really talk to each other. You saw it plainly in Rebirth where she constantly got shit wrong about how he felt while in their hometown, saying "maybe we don't know each other as well as I thought". Of course there is more affection on Tifa's end than Cloud, but for Cloud's part he just seems like he's forcing himself to be someone he's not with her and that causes tension.
>/v/ forgetting about the best girl yet againmany such cases...
>>741465067>v/ forgetting about the best girl yet againI didn't though
>>741464835I think the best we’ll get is for the main narrative to heavily imply Aerith, with her optional content greatly enhancing that. And for there to be just enough deniability for the Tifa fans to have their fun on their route.
sorry but i think its obvious that they are setting up for cloti and zerith. aerith will stay dead, will finally reunite and find out what happened with zack and realize what she felt for cloud was a shallow fleeting crush compared to the man she wrote hundreds of letters to (she buried the rest of the them in her garden according to dear destiny btw) while cloud and tifa will work through their miscommunications. >marlene told zack that aerith moved onyeah and he was really mature about the whole thing which is why he will be rewarded with her love in the end. zacks whole character so far has been about helping them both so fans will want him to get rewarded too
7, 8, 10 and 15 probably have the best standard battle themes.
>>741465160Nothing about what’s Aerith has done in the first two games suggests she wants Zack back
>>741464887>implying Cloud never pity fucked her a few times over that time periodSure, anon.
>>741465151>just enough deniability for the Tifa fans to have their fun on their route.Cloti Fortress has always been "Tifa wins because Aerith is dead" which of course has nothing to do with how Cloud feels, but who gets Cloud's sperm (which is the ultimate source of the shipping issue, its just foids arguing over mate selection preference).
>>741465197XIII is the best battle theme and it’s not even close
>>741465058>but for Cloud's part he just seems like he's forcing himself to be someone he's not with her and that causes tension.Yes Ultimania plainly states this, but it's because he wants to impress her. Same with how he wants to impress Aerith, but she sees right through him. I think it's possible Cloud was interested in both at some point, but his feelings for Aerith were winning.
>>741465234zack was mentioned on the tifa date and aerith lied about not talking about anything important for a reason. to bring zack back just to have him cheer for cloud and aerith would not go well with fans
>>741465234And now she's dead like Zack
>>741465325There is an old interview with Kitase I believe, where the describes Clouds feeling in terms of a school boys, wher Tifa is the girl he came up through the grades with in the same classroom, an known quantity, while Aerith is the exotic exchange student that is there for a semester but then leaves. This is compounded by Cloud being intrinsically a borderline autist, and then being developmentally stuck as a 16 year old because of Hojo, so his SOLDIER persona is reinforced by his need to impress Tifa (which is at least a large reason he left home to be a SOLDIER in the first place).
>>741465472>to bring zack back just to have him cheer for cloud and aerith would not go well with fansAnon, I...
>>741465472Yeah she said it was nothing important because she didn’t want to kill the vibe by talking about another guy while she was on her date. She also tells Cloud he’s the one she wants now.
>>741465472bringing zack back to infringe on the real story has already infuriated fans
>>741419090they are soulmates after all
>>741465539Remake project being what it is, she was already "dead". The Aerith that died was simply the Aerith from that particular World. As well as the Aerith that dies after pushing Cloud into the Lifestream (and the number of Aerith's that were killed in various Worlds by Sephiroth before she was able to get rid of the White Materia).
>>741463106I remember Vincent x Yuffie being popular for pretty much no reason. If Revelation canonized it it would be hilarious
>>741465564Yeah, Tifa is the childhood friend while Aerith is the new exchange student. So Cloud liking both at the same time is a possibility, he's torn between two pretty girls along with his own personal issues. One thing about the games, they gave a lot more to Cloud/Tifa than the OG. They even removed the line about Cloud/Aerith being a perfect fit.
>>741465472It would still suck for Zackfags even if they canonize Zerith because he'll always be known as the rebound guy. Zack is probably the most bastardized character in the whole FF7 saga.
>>741419090i will never play final fantasy, but aerithfag reminds me of mindbroken reifags drooling over a non-character
>>741465628He obviously says that because he's currently stuck in a fucking alternate dimension, anon.
>>741465472>to bring zack back just to have him cheer for cloud and aerith would not go well with fansThats not the reason he is back; he is back because Aerith needs him to fulfill a role. She is not bringing him back to cuck him. If you want read more into it, in Maiden who Travels the Planet, Aerith meets Zack in the lifestream, and Aerith rejects him, but Zack goes to "sleep" in case she needs him again. What is happening regarding Zack in the Remake project is likely a reference to that.
>>741465868He knows from Marlene that Cloud is the only one who can save her.
>>741465868yup, its one thing to bring zack back to help cloud and everyone but to bring him back so aerith can be revived and live out of her with cloud? thats overkill for any fan. people are very sure about no romance in the end for the trilogy but for years they have built on zerith when they didnt have to. the new novel is very zerith heavy, why would they release stuff like that?
>>741465875Is this the same novel?
>>741465996>years they have built on zerith when they didnt have toyes and no one likes itzerith is exclusively pushed by disingenuous cloti shippers
>>741466069>no one likes itit gets a lot of fanart still so thats wrong. clerith ending is bad for cloti and zerith but cloti is only bad for clerith. it gets zerith as its buddy pairing, theres no buddy pairing for clerith
>>741466060Yep, its was published in the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega
>>741466143>gets rejected in the lifestreambeing zack is suffering
>>741466069Yes, and? If Tifa fags can successfully manipulate Square into making Cloti canon then isn’t that just a skill issue on your part? You just didn't manifest Clerith hard enough, sweetie.
>>741466124>clerith ending is bad for cloti and zerith but cloti is only bad for clerith.see this is exactly what i meanno one likes it, it's just oh look mine is better because of a silver medal option for you
>>741465868>Comes after the scene in which he is told Aerith likes Cloud>is shown in the scene leading up to fighting with Cloud letting a flower petal go in a direct contrast to Cloud during the Loveless play holding the flower petal to his heart>Supposed to be a beautifully symbolic scene showing Zack's maturity by respecting Aerith's feelings and letting her goYet media illiterate fans like you will push against this obvious storytelling because you think Zack is "owed" Aerith as a reward for being a decent guy
>>741466243no i like zerith, its only better than cloti is the sister ship to it. together they are more popular than clerith
>>741466245none of this shit matters until we get real closure in the finale. we already know how batshit insane the writers are so they can easily change anything they want last minute.
>>741466245he lets it go and it brings him to her church, you arent telling the whole picture. im just saying nothing is set in stone including aerith living
>>741466317>none of this shit matters until we get real closure in the finaleAgreed on that. I'm so tired of arguing the obvious. The devs have let this shit fester for far too long. Here's hoping they have the balls to finally put their foot down.
>>741466205keep in mind the fanbase likes to shit on this story, saying its "not canon", though there is no canon in FF7 outside of FF7 itself, but it was publshed in an official SE game guide. The author got backlash and wrote an apology about it, but that does not mean its not an inspiration for the Remake story (which is pulling from not only the entire compilation but things outside it as well). The only thing that is "canon" to the Remake project is AC, since Kitase said they had to say that AC "happened" in order for the Remake project story to work. And the Aerith that is in Lifestream White and AC is very similar to the Aerith depicted in this story.
>>741465731Yes omni Aerith dies and then remake Aerith replaces her and eventually becomes AC Aerith.
>>741466626When you walk awayYou don't hear me sayPLEAAAAAAAAASSEEEEEEEEE
>>741466430It's only obvious to you because you've scoured the compilation for every drop of information that might prove your point, while many of us have only played FF7, the remakes, and maybe Crisis Core, so we have a more skewed perspective that favors a different interpretation.
>>741466626>Yes omni Aerith dies and then remake Aerith replaces her and eventually becomes AC Aerith.No, Omni (Lifestream) Aerith does not die, she shows up in the final battle with Sephiroth at the end of Rebirth. The Aerith of the date world dies (probably, we never see it) and its likely that Remake Aerith dies, but that Cloud can also see another World where he Saved Aerith as well. Everyone will think he is nuts, but Sephiroth gave him his "blessing" in the Lifestream, which enabled him to see into multiple Worlds at once, in order to facilitate his decent into madness.
>>741457639Tifa shippers know they are canon(the others are literally dead lmao) so we don't feel the need to argue with the aerith schizo.
>>741466543The author didn’t make that shit up though. He was commissioned to do it and must have had a lot of direction from someone in the know.
>>741466934Yep, but backlash is backlash. Zerith's and Cloti's are the worst.
>>741466772I have discussing this shit with people like that because I’ll be discussing the game only to be hit with some obscure quote of questionable translation quality from a novella or interview like it fucking means anything to the game that was made 15 years prior.
>>741419090>He thinks Aeris is still alive>He thinks she's going to be dating anyone in RevelationWow, anon, you're retarded.
>>741423725She died.The game largely exposed thousands of brainlets who can't comprehend how the LIFESTREAM works so they think it's an alternative timeline.
>>741467289sephiroth is making the mother of all timelines here, aerith can live in a few of them
>>741467289>She died.
>>741467289>so they think it's an alternative timeline.Hamaguchi literally said it involves multiple timelines, which is obvious to anyone that actually has knowledge of FF7 and playes the Remake project. Is obvious from the opening movie in Remake its an alternate timeline.
>>741467348>If I cherry-pick a singular image out of context entirely, I can pretend like the entire ending sequence where everyone is moping over the tragedy of Aeris' death didn't happenCloud parries the Sephiroth attack and Time Jannies make it so she dies as per the original. Holy Materia still tink tink tink bounces away. So on and so forth.
>>741467392Don't bother trying to convince them. These are the same ones still banging on about "it's only to add a sense of surprise! It won't mean anything and in the end the remake is a 1:1 with the original!" despite the fact that Hamaguchi explicitly states they never said anything like that
>>741462772But those parts were in the original too. Aerith says her boyfriend was in SOLDIER and gets all awkward in Gongaga around his parents, and the flashback scene shows Zack saving Cloud from Hojo's tube and taking him to Midgar
>>741467695That Holy Materia is from an alternate timeline by the way
I believe true love will prevail.
Zack's a real bro and deserves better. Shippers only hate him because his charisma is too high
>>741467110All I can say is that I walked away from og ff7 thinking that Tifa was Cloud's love interest, so if I have to scour through books and play a bunch of shitty spin-offs just to get a complete sense of who Cloud really wants, then the writers did a terrible job.
>>741468170Most raped character in RPG history.
>>741468170he has a cute redhead waiting for him and taking care of his parents
>>741468170This isn’t the same character from CC
>>741465243She sure is as frustrated as a sexually unsatisfied woman. She even starts badmouthing her dead friend to Cloud of all people.
>>741465868Ohnonono
>>741468376Why though? They barely interact between Midgar and the LSS.
>>741465243More like he made her put in a wig and pink dress.
>>741468617That's true actually. Cissnei is better than Aerith anyway
>>741466364To the church she actually brought Cloud to in person?
>>741443864I'm talking about the story segments you retard. I swear the site gets more illiterate niggers by the hour or you fuckers act retarded on purpose for twitter engagement
>Cloud's love for Aerith broke Sephiroth's control Hmmmm
>>741419315Aerith and Tifa are fictional characters, and the former is dead.
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>>741469164And not only could he NOT break free for Tifa, he nearly killed her.
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>>741466245Anon he's literally following the yellow flowers, that's why he let it go
Cloud will save her. Zack will help him.
>>741469164>>741469331I'd argue that Jenova was far less in control at the Temple due to wanting/needing the black materia moreover than at the reactor.
>>741469602You really think the whole Aerith mv was for shits and giggles?
>>741419090...they're both dead
>>741468686Zack's character in OG FF7 was>Cool SOLDIER>Cloud's friend>Aerith's boyfriend>DiesAll of that is present in CC. The story may be total shit but Zack himself is fine
Zack let go. That's what makes him a great character. You have to let go too.Cloud, in contrast, never let go. That's what makes him a great character. We will defy fate with him.
>>741469695I'll admit I'm tired as hell and dealing with a cyst so I have no idea what the "Aerith mv" means lol
>>741469892amv. Aerith music video. Like those compilations.
Would Sephiroth have let Aeris live if she offered to suck his dick and eat his shit?
>>741462896Finally, an anon with a functioning brain
>>741466850Oh man this sounds so interesting and cool and definitely way better than if they just did a 1:1 remake with modern graphics like we actually wanted ten years ago. Sheesh, what a pile of turds.
>>741470735she wouldn't say that
>>741469892>dealing with a cystdrain it
>>741463336>She becomes popular>Significantly less doujins and fanart than back in the day>Basically dick all after rebirthHaha... Yeah...
>>741469886why did he ask this randomly lol
Man I regret playing rebirth because every time I try to have an honest discussion about what worked what didn't and why i somehow end up talking to a fucking deranged shipper glad this game sold half the amount of copies as remake Jesus christ
>>741471071ok anon go ahead, tell us your thoughts on the remake so far
>>741458081And they still don’t get it, sad.
The third game is pretty obviously going to aim for an idealized universe where everybody lives and she and Zack will pair off again
>>741471150In a thread full of fucking deranged shippers? Fat fucking chance. Eat my ass
>>741457639Autistics spam moreIt's like with Sakurafags, they are everywhere compared to Hinatafags and the few Hinatafags don't dare to appear
>>741470980It's near my balls man it ain't a boil yet>>741469984Understood thanks for the reference
>>741462896I've just accepted that the remake won't get that scene right. The scene isn't a "Tifa scene" nor is it even about her, but I do actually think it would be a worse version of itself if they took her out, and an even worse version if they did the opposite and added even more characters to it
>>741458406It's the classic breast envy. For god's sake hags even invade other spaces to make sure fictional females don't have curves lmao
>>741458501Sorry but not even that one can surpass KoiamLa autism
>>741471271ok i was trying to be nice..
>>741470735No because he's gay for Cloud
>>741471027Probably because of how Marlene was talking about Cloud saving Aerith, while Zack at this point has no idea how Aerith and Cloud could even know each other.
>>741419315Spoken like a true necrophilliacI'm also one too
>>741471071What do you want to talk about multiverse slop and time jannies instead? Fuck these games they are only worth stupid memes and r34 porn.
>>741471337They’re not taking her out but since the scene is in service of Cloud they’re going to add Zack and Aerith to make it better for his development. Which will make the scene better for anyone who doesn’t have the preconceived notion that it’s supposed to be a CT scene first and foremost.
>>741473142I'm just going to say that I liked FFVII as is.
>>741473142The scene doesn't work with Zack there because he knows who Cloud really is and what actually happened at Nibelheim. Instead of Cloud remembering on his own Zack would just tellAerith has nothing to do with any of it because she didn't meet Cloud until the game started. Neither of them add anything, they just dilute the original
>>741473481>>741473487It’s already changed. A lot of the revelations of the original have already been done: Cloud not being a Soldier, the existence of Zack, Zack being at Nibelheim. This scene is probably going to only be partially to do with what’s left of the original, partially to do with the multiverse shit, partially to do with Aerith’s fate.
>>741473849>It’s already changed.I didn't like any of those changes except Cloud saving Aerith and I only liked that because they already shoved a multilifesteam down my throat.
>>741473849I know. The best scene in the game has already been pre-ruined
