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A patch just dropped, but I can't see any notes.
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I am fucking desperate here. No matter how much I hit him with his health bar like this, he just doesn't die. I don't want to fucking get the rune for this asshole, I want to kill him. But it's bugged or something and he's turned invincible. Legit about to ruin the ending for me if I'm locked into only being able to do his task.
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>>741435730
Yeah, looks bugged, try reloading
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>>741436000
I have, multiple times. That's like the fifth attempt.
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>>741435559
https://files.gothic-game.com/changelogs/G1R_Patch_1.0.2.txt
Found it. They buffed magic. Wizard chads rise!

MAGIC BALANCE
>Ball Lightning increase damage
> Fireball increase damage
>Rain of Fire increase damage
> Chain Lighntning increase damage in high level circles
>Heal increase amount in high level circles
> High level circle spells tweek mana cost
> Iceblock damage buff in high level circles
>Fist of Wind damage buff in high level circles
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>>741436036
Have you tried a save from before you attacked him?
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>>741436098
holy shit they increased damage and health of a lot of monsters
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MAGE BROS FEASTING
>lockpicking now gives XP
FUCK
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they didnt nerf bow dmg, thank god
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGRsq_BMpAQ
/ourgirl/ played it. And got filtered.
It's depressing how badly she fumbled her game, because she wasn't paying attention to the tips the game kept giving her.
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>>741436339
yea I don't know what they're smoking
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>>741436345
Unless it's like 100xp or more I still won't bother with lockpicking
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>>741435730
>>741436000
>>741436036
I believe they fixed this in 1.01 to stop people getting the ore armour early on.
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>>741436119
>>741436430
Oh my fucking god.
I did it and THEN HE FUCKING CLIPPED THROUGH THE THRONE AND FELL OFF BOUNDS.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>741436510
sounds like they did a faithful remake afterall
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>>741436098
Today everyone's moaning about >no patch and suddenly there's a patch
Also that fucks me over, I was going to do a mage but I thought otherwise because mages sucked. Goddammit. Now I guess I'll be a dumb hybrid and try to join the water mages if they'll still take me
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THEY FIXED EVERYTHING
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>4GB patch
alright
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FUCK THE GOD IN HEAVEN!
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>>741437084
wait, what the fuck, I wanted to post this in /metal/
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How generous is the game with learning points?
I feel like I must have wasted 40LP on dogshit
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>>741437168
If it's anything like the original, pretty generous if you bother doing any exploration. You'll most likely max out most of the skills you have.
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Where do Jackal and Bloodwyn sleep? I can't find those fuckers and I want to pay them a night visit
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Majula... home
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>>741437301
idk but have you checked the warden quarters in the castle?
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>>741437453
Oh shit it's inside the castle. That makes sense
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bumped the saturation up a bit
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>>741436570
I FUCKING DID IT.

And then the game crashed when I knelt to check out the chest next to the throne. Whatever, I already quick saved, I'm safe.
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>>741437630
all that swampweed smoke really did a number on the colony
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>>741436098
>modern internet gives devs the power to patch the game whenever they feel like it
>devs use it to buff the shit out of the enemies with some compensatory buffs to magic (which was already bad)
oh no
they're NotRfags
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>1:1 map from G3
not sure how I feel about this
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>>741436098
>temple high guard not buffed
pathetic
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>>741437973
who?
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>>741437972
>the unknown lands
>known well enough to paint the mountains in it on a map
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>>741438163
stop noticing ok?
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>>741436373
they are listening to retards who start game by getting scar's sword and clear all monsters every chapter and then cry that game is easy
in 2 patches we will have returning 2 here
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>>741436345
and now my character is bricked again
at this point I will never see chapter 3
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IN EXTREMO
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>>741438023
the really weak enemies guarding the sleeper temple
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>>741437301
Bloodwyn is on the 2nd floor of the Warder tavern, Old Camp inner circle (behind Torus)
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>>741438579
goddamnit, that scene was bugged for me, band just stood there, no music, while the crowd was cheering ... next thing I know I see them in the dungeons ;dd
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>>741438856
I had Gomez do a stage dive from the top after the cutscene, falling to the ground, and then walking away like nothing happened
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so how much lockpicking gives experience?
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The game is over after the Sleeper temple, right?
I'm kind of over the quickloading fest that is hard combat difficulty.
I'm a retard for picking hard, but it's also stupid that you can't change it mid-game.
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>>741435559
WTF THEY CENSORED EVERYTHING AND ADDED TRANS DIGGERS TO THE GAME
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>dropped the game because the bullshit super shadowbeast you need to kill for the ulumulu filtered me hard
>surely devs will tone the enemies down
>they buff them
If I wasn't well over 2 hours in I'd refund this trash
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It was too easy on hard, 3-4 shot a regular shadowbeast with Thorus weapon in chapter 3.

Buff everything.
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>>741438758
Can I get into the inner circle of the castle without sneaking if I join new camp?
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>>741439380
Honestly you're right but only if they also fix that you can just beat up and loot NPCs without repercussions in the camps
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>>741439536
That's why Charm exists, or Oblivion in G2
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Wow they actually fixed sorting, now I don't have a lot of morning stars randomly placed
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Is bow damage always lethal? I'm doing a bow run on hardcore and social fights like Kirgo, or that one lazy novice seem firmly out of my grasp.
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>>741439861
Nope, arrows and magic don't kill humans anymore, they only get knocked down
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>bow, magic
cringe
>melee
based
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>>741440383
I wonder if I could just shoot Kirgo in the face in the arena...
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>>741440378
Should be fine on Gothic. On hard you're better off prioritising one and then putting points in the other as support.
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I beat the game already but maybe I should've waited a year for all the patches.
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>>741441360
why? what was wrong?
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>>741441395
I wanted to be a magecuck but lategame wasn't doing it for me so I switched over to melee. I have a feeling they're going to buff magic spells again in another patch
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Finished the game, good shit. Fuck the temple of the Sleeper though.
And now, the long wait for Gothic 2's remake...
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Fuuuuck dude. They're gonna forgive me, right?
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>you can drop an ore a bit away from a guard and they will walk there and pick it up
the options are endless
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I have "acquired" the game thru alternative ways, how's the patch? I'm still on 1.0 not sure if I will ever update to be honest
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>>741442408
Lolno
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>>741442408
Save bricked, hope you weren't playing on ironman mode.
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>>741442630
I am...
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>>741442662
Damn, can't believe anon has completely ruined his reputation at New Camp and now can't play from chapter 3 onwards.
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>>741442408
let them beat you up
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>>741442408
Wait 1 day
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>>741435559
did the fix the dogshit performance
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>>741438163
fucking dumbass bitch you can see mountains million miles away dumbfuck plus the mages can turn into literally any animal nigger retard and fly
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>>741436510

F O R G O M E Z
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around 50 exp for chest depending I believe on difficulty, my run is literally bricked
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all those people near the end of their run mastering lockpicking and not being able to rake in all that extra exp per chest after dealing with all the bullshit
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>>741439490
Yes, it's part of the journey :) Progress a bit, you'll see - turns out the mages correspond regularly, and need messengers - you can use that.
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>>741438163
Licentia Poetica. Our glorious Euro ancestors believed in the existence of massive Blue Moon Mountains south of Sahara badly enough to routinely put them on the "world maps".
Then the Age of Exploration came about and it turned out Sahel is grassy, flat and full of potential slaves instead.
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>>741442968
Nope, 1.0.2 still crashes like a muthafucka ... then again, I use a dozen mods ;dd
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>>741443149
sounds like these unknown lands shouldn't be unknown at all then
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Now that I've finished the game and know the whole story, why in the everloving fuck would anyone pick anything but New Camp? The fucking game itself agrees with this since you basically spend all your time there for more than half the story regardless of which camp you picked.
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How many of you found that solo guy that can follow you in the far west of the swamp? I sicced him on the forest shadowbeast so I can loot the HP amulet early game.
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>>741444389
Why, what's the deal with dragonroot?
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>>741435559
I'm still shocked they pulled this off. Everyone was largely negative about the game after playing the prototype. What's funny is people complaining about the visuals and how "drab and gray it is because of UE5" probably never even played the original Gothic.
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>>741444562
Yea. I was always the fun of the muted green of the vegetation in the colony.
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https://files.gothic-game.com/changelogs/G1R_Patch_1.0.2.txt
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>>741439536
They buffed health and armor to all NPCs, and more so for NPCs with good weapons like Scar so it´s harder to cheese, its a compromise i can accept. The cheese needs to be possible :)
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>>741444738
anon that was in G2. also it was way more than 10 applies IIRC. Like 50.
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>Swampshark: damage and armor increased
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>>741444738
its 25 and only in Gothic 2?
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>>741442408
Genocide run it is. As long as you kill everyone in there without witnessess from outside youre good.
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>>741445063
I already wiped them all out anyway, lol mao.
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>>741436098
>- Minecrawler Temple: damage and armor increased
why the fuck dude
these things were already annoying spongewall trash enemies that gave nothing of value and were purely just in the way for the sake of it
>- Shadowbeast: damage increased
it could already oneshot everyone up til level ~20 anyway?
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>>741445424
It's up
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After some further testing I came to conclusion that playing a mage is simply boring in Gothic Remake. Melee fighters have their parry timings and block windows, archers have their run and gun gameplay, mages just stand there like a cuck, charge their 5 second long cast just to deal least damage possible. Buffing up numbers won't ever satisfying because you either one shot the enemy which feels cheap or you stand there with 5 second long casts and get shredded to bits after first blast. Ball Lighting is only decent because enemy AI just freezes and they literally stand there waiting for your cast to finish so if you have an ability that stuns them they just infinitely stand there until they die, riveting gameplay of abusing bad AI.
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But where's the RUNE update?
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>>741445539
>Melee fighters have their parry timings and block windows
Yeah maybe if I didn't murder everything in 1-2 hits.
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>>741445518
It's probably still propagating over the CDNs, but the patch is for all platforms.
They even published a post.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1297900?updates=true
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>>741445450
There's only 4 shadowbeasts in the colony they're supposed to feel dangerous.
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How to I enter the Orc Arena? It's just north of Cavalorn's hut, 2 orcs in front but I can't get past the ruined gate/barricade
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Is there another war crossbow somewhere besides scar? I want to have 2
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>>741445774
The entrance is from the orc territory. It's a story area so don't waste time trying to get in there.
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>>741442408
>subhuman language
They might, but I won't.
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>>741444389
I have like 8 of them. Pleb.
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>>741445841
Mountain fortress where you go with Lester, on that ledge with the broken bridge
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My poor scavenger
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Am I remembering wrong but the Mountain Fortress used to have a secret room with a demon inside? Was that G2?
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>>741445979
Lester the molester!
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>>741442548
Update if you're a mage or if you have a toaster that might benefit from the performance bumps otherwise no point honestly. Quest bugs can be fixed with savegame editors and some mods fix the sleep bug.
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>patch game
>5 minute in it crashes, only my second crash in 40 hours
getting kinda scared ...
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Swamp sharks are fucking terrifying on permadeath.
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>>741447370
You really have no business going melee with them until late chapter 3.
They get roasted by fire, mage has it easy.
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>another patch download
u-uh?
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So, what IS the Sleeper?
He's not god or any god's avatar.
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>>741447518
intro to Gothic 2 reveals he's a demon belonging to Beliar
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>>741447518
Same being as the other demons from the same dimension but kinda their boss.
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>>741446397
same, it crashed 3 times in two hours ... gotta be the mods
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GET FUCKED BITCH
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>>741435559
Non-buynary
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>>741447917
apparently there are nude mods but paywalled
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>>741442408
>stealing a meatbug ragout
Bądź przeklęty!
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>>741448129
Everything that's not bolted to the floor is mine, it exists for me to steal.
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>>741448042
I know you meant well, but those nude mods are digusting.
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What are these workbenches for?
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>>741448593
smithing, it's where you make the handles
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>>741448689
ohh, alright. is smithing worth it at all? you find some pretty good weapons out there.
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>>741448725
Not really, no.
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why is it that resting isn't healing me? is this a bug?
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>>741448895
Did you update to the patch released today? Supposedly they fixed it but it could just be another sleep bug. Download the mod that fixes it.
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>>741448843
figues. seems like a lot of the non-combat skills are just there to steal your LP. Smithing, lockpicking,

>>741448895
since the bug is supposed to be fixed, check the glossary for how sleeping works. your guy needs to be tired to heal by sleeping.
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Nice patch
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>>741449041
no I pirated the game
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>>741444603
Not for Gothic 1
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how well optimized is this game?
I meet the minimum requirements but obviously that doesn't mean anything these days
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soooo how do i complete the fisk quest?

i stole the sword and beat up fisk
he isnt talking to me
yet i have a guy from the new camp ready to sell shit to fisk

is the quest boorked now?
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>>741449121
reload, heard it fixes that
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Is it normal that my HP is regen all the time? lol nice patch
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>>741449406
yeah, fixed it
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>>741444287
>would anyone pick anything but New Camp
Old camp has best armor and weapons
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>>741449564
>You even had all of the time in the world to remake it without bugs
What age do you have to be to make a statement like that
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>>741449750
Because you are either very young or very dumb, hopefully the former.
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>>741449512
That's not really going to matter once Gomez flips his shit and kills you because he was feeling spicy that day.
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>>741449909
I mean you CAN get the best armor and weapon from his chest then join the new camp in fact in gothic 2 its heavily implied you joined the new camp
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What is this game about?
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what uh what was the nameless hero going in for anyway
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So I heard after becoming a warder you can still become a water mage in chapter 4. I'm now in chapter 4. When do I get the chance?
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>>741444287
swamp camp rules. I want front row seats to the loony bin and cool armor.
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>>741449979
>level 1: deliver a letter
>level 40: kill god
but a slavjank rather than jrpg
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>>741449979
Polish deathcamp simulator.
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>>741449979
German Postal Delivery Service.
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>>741445539
I beat Gomez by channeling chain lightning for 2 minutes which permastunned and zapped both him and myself at the same time.
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>>741449979
Making friends :)
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>>741449979
Some mages do a fucky wucky oopsie poopsie
You're kicked into a colony surrounded by a magic barrier that's basically a prison, full of convicts and beasts and some mages too
Your mission is to get strong and find a way out as a fucking weak nobody
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>>741449979
You committed a crime, so you're going to prison.
Except the prison is also a valley full of mines.
And the king had his mages cast a giant fuckoff barrier over the valley to make sure the inmates would mine hard.
And now you're in it.
And an ancient evil has awakened.
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>>741450212
It's not even wrong, you do make some friends
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I think I'd rather have a full re-do of Gothic 3 than a remake of Gothic 2 at this point. I think Gothic 1 remake does a pretty decent job and I wonder at scale how far they could push it.

G1 is a great remake, and G2 (+NotR) would be best kept in the same style imho (i.e: some changes, some new ideas, but overall very close to the original), but G3 could use basically as much of a revamp as the devs feel like. Keep the general story beats, many side quests, and the overall shape of the world map, but go nuts with virtually everything else.

he biggest problem for me with G3 was the World... Its just big and doesn't flow the same as G1 and G2. Also the story needs to a shit load of re-writes and corrections I imagine.
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>light crossbow - 30dex/60dmg
i wanted to go full unga bunga but that seems like too good a deal to pass on
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>>741450235
>You committed a crime
allegedly, within context of G1 there's no indication if you really did or were framed
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>>741450309
Get a bow nigga you can shoot 3 arrows in the time it takes to shoot 1 bolt
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>>741450391
Oh, right, there's actually a fair amount of people there who aren't truly criminals, just incriminated because the king needs miners bad.
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>>741450391
Considering he tells the state official to stfu, he's not really a good boy
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So why didn't Lares join Lee at Onar's farm in G2?
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>level 5
>50 dex
>20 LP
do I pump dex, or get bow mastery now? almost finished with Chapter 1, there's like 2 quests left before I join.

>>741450560
he literally tells you that he's on the lookout for ships that might get them all off the island
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>>741436430
>make the npc literally invincible
>fixed
>>741444898
I love how instead of buffing Master Lockpicking and putting better loot into the harder to open chests they just added exp to opening locked chests, so now retards will actually be RIGHT about needed to open every chest immediately. What a dumb and lazy decision.
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I'M too drunk to play bros yet I wanna slash the remaining orc with my shitty 1h sword
t. chad
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Were people really complaining that enemies do too little damage and are not spongy enough? Crazy.
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>>741450682
based
total. orc. genocide.
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>>741450402
but crossbows are cool
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when update for pirates
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>>741450705
I don't know, but they should have nerfed the player's armor upgrades and 1h weapon damage, not buffed enemies. That just makes magic and robes even worse.
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>>741450660
the worst decision was allowing lockpicking without the skill in the first place. in the OG your guy just said that he doesn't know how to pick locks and that was it.
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can i fully max out dex and str
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>>741450705
yeah who the fuck buffs enemies in a sp game honestly
i get that the endgame is easy but jesus i want to feel like a god i worked for it
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>>741450837
wrong
thats the case only in 2
In 1 you could open most locks from the start
Not arguing which one was better f
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>>741451336
oh, I didn't remember that. I think it would work better here cause the hard mode being most people's first interaction with the system leaves a bad taste in their mouth.
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Who has a good bow I could borrow? The arrow economy is killing me.
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>>741450520
That's up for interpretation, the snark could be him losing faith in the system after getting unjustly condemned.
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FOR POMMES
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>>741451707
I saw that
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>can't leave custom text on map
i dislike this greatly
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>>741450402
you're supposed to lead with the crossbow and switch to the bow
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>>741451809
the little icons not enough?
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>>741451861
I'm a STRchad I just charge in like a retarded gorilla and kill everything
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This game is such an eyesore. In a literal sense. It's beautiful but trying to spot shit through the foliage is hurting my eyes.
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Reminder that New Camp has NO BITCHES

Old Camp has bitches
Swamp Camp has bitches

NEW CAMP HAS NOTHING
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>>741451872
no
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And here I was, heartbroken that I had to trade away my guard armor for the minecrawler one but nope its almost worse in every way. I mean hey I get that its basicly free but kinda a let down
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>>741452084
It's made for large screens I think.
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Where's that Santino guy after the mine floods?
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>>741449979
gay prison sex (consensual) and magic rocks
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>>741452275
above fisk, old camp, inside a hut
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>>741452104
Who cares about the lack of bitches? It's not like you're gonna get to fuck them. You rarely even get to see them. And the only one worth a shit in Old Camp was Syra because the other two are total backstabbers and she dies first of all.
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>>741452084
>running through woods
>battle music starts playing
>stop to look around
>nothing
>start running again
>suddenly two wolves jump me from the sides with three more on the way
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>>741435559
Anyone willing to share the 1.01 to 1.02 gog update file?
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>>741452174
Yyfw
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if I were to update my pirated game, how do I do it?
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>>741452084
auto targeting with bows from half the map will be greatly missed
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>>741452423
bugfixes, and hp/damage up on bunch of mobs because game was too easy
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>>741452638
Not the patch notes, bro. The updater exe. The file to update the game for gog for piratebros.
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>>741452352
I think only the blonde betrays her. The one with the short hair never got her letter from Syra, as she was already dead at that point.
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>>741452703
The one with the short hair (Velaya) betrays YOU. If she kills Seraphia, immediately after she'll call the guards and tell them you did it.
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>look up "gothic 1 best early weapon" for fun, because maybe I missed something
>this retard is hallucinating hard on me now
kill AI and AI enablers (including me)
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Dude doesn't look nearly evil enough. They'll have to up their game if they want to do NOTR.
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>>741452774
Looks like the two chicks from the swamp camp dodged a bullet then.
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>>741452792
been ages since I've played it, but I think you could get one of the orc weapons early (Chapter 1) without having to fight any orcs, so it's not completely wrong
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>>741452792
the jackal guy trying to get protection money from you in old camp has a pretty nice one-handed axe if you can knock him out. it does like 50dmg
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>>741453048
I can? Where? At the orc cemetary entrance?
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>>741452792
Chapter 2
Rob gomez chamber for the best armor in the entire game
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>tell Bloodwyn to fuck off
>except some warden on my newbie ass rape
>it's just a bunch of digger fucks trying to kill me
>one even sets up a cute ambush
>too bad I already killed his pals when I saw them to get free beds on the field

That's it? So much for the "blackmail".
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>>741452792
Oh and pick pocket gomez for the best 1H weapon in the entire game
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>>741453117
Orc weapons suck ass, btw. You can wield them, but you will be super slow, until you learn orc weaponry from the orc in the arena in a later act.
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>>741453117
nta but theres a guarded gate near the old camp's south gate right before the orc territory. just need to aggro some orcs and lead them to the gate then loot the bodies once the guards are done with them
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>>741453259
Even with mastery I still found them exceedingly slow.
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>>741453117
I don't remember. And even if I did, it probably doesn't work the same in the remake.
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>>741453007
Swamp camp is the nicest place to stay in general, even though they end up suffering the most.
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Chapter 1 on hard ironman complete. Should be easy now, right?
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>>741453259
I'm replaying the original first after like 10 years of not playing it until the devs finally patch out all of the bugs out of this one. The Geminigger told me original Gothic 1 too, so that's why I got worked up over it.
>they suck
I now, but I'm just goofing around cartoonishly overleveling myself in Chapter 1 to see how far I can force it. It's the first time I thought about grabbing an orc weapon this early on. Maybe I can gravity cheese kill one of the orcs too.
>>741453305
Good idea, I'll try that if I won't find a weapon laying around.
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The patch doesn't really do anything for melee playthrough except making enemies more annoying.
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>>741451161
Depends how many side quests and NPC killing that you do. I ended the game around level 37, but I killed most of 1 camp, 1 whole minor camp, and all of the orcs. I would have been even higher if I played the game after the update where they added XP for lockpicking, since I picked (without mods) every single lock in the game that I could find. You also get maybe +20 to str and dex total from potions and one NPC.
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>>741450641
get bow mastery and pump dex all the way to 100
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>>741453453
>right after they buffed minecrawler queen health and increased a bunch of dmg and armor from a whole lot of enemies.
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>>741453453
picking out my armor. I should get the one that's stronger against cuts right? not a lot of blunt damage out there.
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>>741453453
what armor is that, shadow? are you Gomez buttboy?
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>>741453768
yea, I've played gothic like a dozen times and never joined the old camp. thought the remake is a nice occasion to try something new.
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>>741453453
>>741453768
Gotta be honest, not a fan of the armor upgrade system.. Then again, I joined swamp camp on my first playthrough, and they got the shit end of the stick when it comes to unupgraded armors.
>Become a novice
>Look like a hobo
>Finally become a templar
>Look like a hobo again
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>patch notes are literally a .txt file

Jesus could they be any more slavic?
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>>741454034
>Join the hobo faction
>Surprised he looks like a hobo
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>adult troll is now invincible
fucking laaaame
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>>741454136
>slavic
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>>741454182
after the patch? that's bullshit.
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>>741454034
free weed though, dude
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>Chapter 6, time to get decked out for the Sleeper
>teleport into Old Camp
>murder whole castle except for Thorus (he was cool in the end and I remember him being cool also in Jarkendar)
>get to Gomez and decide to trade with him for the keys instead of killing him for the achievement
>game crashes when he tries to teleport
>mfw
>reload and just murder him
Thank you, random crash.
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Man, pickpocketing is really only worth it if you want to rob the new camp blind.
It's the only place with enough NPCs that have something on them.
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>>741454296
I only had the option to murder him, because he would constantly get stuck inside this throne when he tried to stand up.
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>Bullied at the beginning
>Day 5 still no map
>Decided not to pay for map
>Not going to be a victim anymore
>Try to steal them from his chest
>Lock is impossible
>There's always a crowd outside
>Decided to wait until midnight for better odds
>The bastard hears me five blocks away
>Five times he wakes up the moment I enter his shithole hut
>Fuck it, mad as fuck. Just beat the fuck out of him.
>He's down. Loot his ass.
>All the maps for free

It's that simple, eh?
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>>741454437
G2 assumes he died, doesn't it?
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>>741454529
you can beat down any npc and get away with it as long as no one else of their faction sees you
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>>741454601
>did they made
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>>741454603
Guards also do nothing when you pay the protection money
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>>741453658
What do you mean most monsters are blunt.
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>play STR
>your resource is health
>pain in the ass maintaining it
>2nd playthrough
>DEX
>losing no health, feels good
>that's because your resource is now arrows
>also pain in the ass maintaining it
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>>741454529
It's a prison colony after all. As long as you don't kill them, and they haven't paid any protection money, you can just beat them up and take their shit.
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>>741454807
you can take back the arrows/bolts you've fired...
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>>741454590
Yep, so it would seem. If not by TNH hand, then possibly Raven's - there is a chest in the castle in Gothic 2 that you access through Raven's room that spawns a skeleton if you loot it and theory says that it's Gomez himself.
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>>741454807
I got around 200 health potions im chugging them like a fly on shit
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>>741454904
not all. it's like a 20-30% chance it will be retrievable
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>>741454807
Are you serious? Just buy all arrows you can buy and beat up bandits, they have like 20 arrows each
I have like 400 arrows and 300 belts and im 1 shitting everything
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Where can I improve my strength in chapter 5???
Nobady is talking to me.
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>>741437168
i got to 60 strength and mastered 1 handed, 2 handed, AND unarmed boxing before deciding in chapter 3 that i wanted to dick around with magic and switched to dumping my LP into magic circles

you cannot possibly be less efficient than i am and im still fine
becuase i installed a mod to fix magic before this patch came out
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>>741455193
Diego is chilling near the Tower of Mists with Lester, try there.
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Does Syra want me to kill Bullit, or just beat the crap out of him?
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>>741439313
summon golem scroll then pelt his ass with ranged attacks
the shadowbeast does slashing damage so it does piss poor damage vs the golem
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>>741454807
>stack armor instead of health
>learn first circle of magic
>"obtain" heal rune
>nothing does enough damage to kill you in any fight
>just heal up during downtime and replenish mana with free blunts
STR with a bit of spare mana becomes pretty much resource independent if you stack enough armor and resistances. Going for health/dex/str jewelry is a trap.
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>>741455246
I completely forgot about Diego.
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>>741455373
Just beating him is enough, though nothing happens if you kill him too. Basically depends on how salty you are about him punching you.
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>>741453502
After goofing around in God mode I found this on top of the tower where you do the quest with the deed for Lares much later and grab a Focus stone.
https://gothic.wiki/w/Sword_of_Victory
Original: 46 damage, 20 str req
Remake: 46 damage, 36 str req
I could sprint past the Bloodhounds and the stone golem without getting touched just fine. The problem will be the harpies up there. I can damage them with a 20 dmg basic bitch Crude Sword, though. I might be able to force my way up to that sword legitimately after a lot of tries. That could open up new dimensions of absolutely breaking the game in Chapter 1.
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>>741454529
Anon they are called diggers for a reason, nobody really kives a fuck about them
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>>741455546
You would think the apparently only cartographer in the camp or colony would be treated like royalty.
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Anons, I have a confession. I haven't walked in a gothic game in ages. Like I always press B type "MARVIN" and then just phase through everything by pressing K and F9. I am saying this because holy fuck does walking take ages like I completly forgot that every camp has like a 5 minute foot walk between them and of course I can't teleport to the center
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>>741455603
why?
the colony is not that big. you can easily walk from one side to the other in less than a few hours. sure, maps are neat and all for freshies, but anyone who has been there for more than week is going to know their way around or be dead from having stumbled upon a shadowbeast

im in chapter 3 and i barely ever even look at my map now. you just learn the routes
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>>741455603
I know every zone by heart by chapter 3, and these guys have been here for some 10 years
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>>741455510
There's also an armor set in the remake now. It was unused in the original. It's pretty good. Slightly better than the fully upgraded first tier armor from the camps.
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When does the shitstorm happen in Old Camp, right after you find all the focus stones?
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I hope they do something with Lester in the 2nd game
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>>741456098
When the water mages send you to the fire mages to help them perform the ritual to destroy the barrier.
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>>741456098
no, a little bit after that, during when saturas sends you to ask the fire mages for help
dont worry you wont miss it. thorus flat out tells you 'hey maybe this aint a great idea'

they changed it from the original; youre actually present for what happens and see it first hand and then escape with milten
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>>741456303
>>741456098
Which does happen to be right when you find all the focus stones, yes.

Also, now that it's been commented, I just realized the whole focus stone hunt doesn't actually amount to anything in the end. Saturas just kinda wipes his ass with them at the end I guess.
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>>741436416
There are resources online that solve them for you if you put in the info. It's kind of a gamechanger. Still obnoxious but not that much.
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>>741456383
Yeah because you cuck him outta his ore, who knows what could have actually happened
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>>741456461
I have no reason at all to doubt Xardas, he was on point about everything.
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>>741455848
>fully upgraded
There's armor upgrading now? That sounds gay and something that the blacksmith should concern himself with.
I wish that the Minecrawler plate armor wasn't chapter locked. I was fucking obsessed with these games back in the day, but I don't recall any mods undoing the chapter locking of stuff. I might have to make one myself. Like farming the Minecrawler plates is hard enough as it is, there's no practical gameplay reason, or story continuity ruination reason to force the player to not get that too early. Same with every late game location behind a gate. If I can make the guards piss off, I should be able to get there earlier too.
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>>741456461
>who knows what could have actually happened
He doesn't have the numbers to try and likely nothing anyway because he didn't take in account the Sleeper.
Imagine being so retarded that you spent years forcing people to break their back mining ore and you never once thought about checking what had gone wrong with the ritual.
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>>741456676
Fully upgraded second tier camp armor is now better than the minecrawler armor, see >>741452174
They probably did it so you have more shit to work towards between chapters.
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>>741456778
>and you never once thought about checking what had gone wrong with the ritual.
Well he thought it was the focus stones and for 90% of the game nobody but Xardas knows any better.
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>>741456778
he was under the impression that the spell activated the stones, which honestly was a solid guess since they were powerful magic and they couldn't investigate properly because of the forcefields.
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How many learning points do i need to learn magic circle 1 to 6 + alchemic and scrolls writing? I have currently 150 LP
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>>741455510
>The problem will be the harpies up there.
You can run past them with one potion and then drop back down very carefully.
I know it works because I did rush that sword myself one time and it's indeed very convenient since you don't need to spend a single point in STR training to use it.
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>>741456981
Magic circles start at 10 and then get raised by 5 per circle. Alchemy and inscribing are 10 each.
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>>741456179
What's wrong with what they did with him in Gothic 2? Beliar's agents were torturing him with nightmares and headaches and shit because of his connection to the Sleeper and the Nameless Hero. That would take a toll on anybody. He's lucky that he managed to get his shit together enough to make it to the ending of the story without being a chosen one, like the main protagonist.
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We only find out the Sleeper was an actual thing and not a schizo hallucination after everyone gets high in the temple courtyard, how could Saturas know anything?
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>>741457114
well, Xardas did find out, so Saturas isn't entirely blameless.
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>>741457182
Wonder how that went, Xardas summons a demon, and asks him about his boss?
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>>741457114
If you never think about investigating the issue you will never find out what the problem was.
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>>741457279
He became buddies with that banished orc shaman who told him about it.
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>>741457279
it involved a large amount of studying orc culture. who's to say if that or demon summoning was first. also the demons aren't nevessarily Sleeper's underlings. they are all under Beliar, who knows if there's a power hierarchy.
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>>741457019
>You can run past them with one potion
Speed potion is locked to chapter 2 in the original. Acrobatics isn't, though. It might be worth it in order to run past a bunch of strong enemies early on. I usually didn't get it though.
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>>741457279
He investigated the orcs.
And even if you didn't think about demons, the Orcs have magicians themselves so checking out if they had something to do with the ritual going wrong is a good start.
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>>741457386
>Speed potion is locked to chapter 2 in the original.
Get one from a chest in the old camp.
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Sleeper being Beliar's servant was not in G1, but was retconed in G2 iirc.

Did the remake change that to G2 canon?
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>>741435559
It's because the patch fixes everything.
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how would sleeper be called if he woke?
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I just joined mercs but Lee only teaches strength and dexterity. How do I train two hand?
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>>741457676
All Destroyer
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>>741457583
Haven't heard or read anything about that in the remake.
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>>741457563
Isn't that inside the castle? I haven't delved deep enough into breaking the game yet to know how to skip there in Chapter 1 while being guildless.
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>>741457676
Waken (Formerly Sleeper)
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>>741457697
Cord, or Torlof I think. Cord taught it in G2 so most likely him. He's probably on that little platform above the lake, on the way to the free mine.
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>>741457740
Legit way: do the old camp joining quest, no need to actually join
Exploit: run in with a sword in hand, the guards won't stop you because they're busy yelling at you
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>>741457794
Cord only teaches one hand combat and Torlof only upgrades merc armor
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When do I get the Old camp teleport rune?
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>>741457979
I don't think it's chapter locked beyond the promotion, because Cor Angar teaches it immediately when you become a templar.
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>>741457926
>no need to actually join
For real? Oh shit, that changes quite a lot of things then.
>run in with a sword in hand
I have mixed experiences with that. Guards often reaggro out of nowhere a few days later when I do that. It's a little too unpredictable for me for a super minmaxed super slow run, but thanks.
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>>741458198
I learned one hand mastery to see if that unlocks two hand training and it indeed does. Fuck niggers saying you don't have to train one hand. Now I don't have points to learn both
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>>741458254
>For real?
Absolutely. Gomez will wait for you to "join" forever after you talk with Raven.
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>>741458254
Also I just remembered that there might be an other one of those swiftness/haste/something potions in the outer ring. I think it's in one of the shacks near Fisk, possibly his own.
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>>741458398
That sucks. I did 1h mastery regardless, because I was using 1h weapons for half the game anyway. Didn't think they just hide 2h weapon training if you don't have 1h mastery.
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>>741458398
Damn, Cor Angar didn't demand 1h mastery. A common Swamp Camp W.
Unless they changed that in a patch or something.
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>>741459091
If that's the case better start over buddy because you didn't beat the game
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>>741453453
>bow
if you play carefully and pump it all into dex then sure, but you have to aim true
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>>741459263
>*waaah* *waaah* you should live in a cave with us and train with little swords
no thanks
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>>741458457
>Gomez will wait for you to "join" forever after you talk with Raven.
I feel it's more like nobody bothered to inform Gomez you were coming, they just allowed you to walk up to him and make your case. So if you leave without actually talking to him, he never realizes you were there and Raven/Thorus/the guards just assume you got rejected.
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>>741456981
more than that
155 LP total
and that does not include any increases to max mana training
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>>741459457
Raven accompanies you all the way. He even stops you in front of Gomez to tell you to behave.
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Who has the minecrawler soup recipe?
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>>741459734
yeah but after he shows you where gomez is and tells you that, he fucks off. he doesnt just wait around or announce you or anything
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I heard that remake has a system where vendors will pay less for items if you sell them a lot of the same thing. How does that actually work, how would I get the most amount of ore?
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>>741459734
>He even stops you in front of Gomez
He stops you across the room from Gomez then goes back to his spot, you can walk away after.
Maybe he thinks you just chickened out.
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>>741450705
A lot of the vocal community sending feedback are retarded oldfags who get off on masochism and believing they are better for tolerating bad game design.
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>you can learn rune magic at chapter 1
holy shit you can actually go full mage on a Gothic game without a retarded challenge run
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>>741460481
They just buffed magic which is pretty good because it fucking sucked last patch and it shows they realized. I'm planning to do a playthrough where I join Old Camp > Fire Mages > Water Mages > learn from Xardas for maximum Avatar master of all elements magic, so that's neat.
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>>741450705
Sounds like NOTR players wanting G1 NOTR edition.
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>>741459914
vendor prices are based on
A. how many of the thing they have
B. how much ore they have in their inventory total

for optimal ore upon selling shit, sell shit to vendors that have a LOT of ore and dont have a ton of copies of shit. cronos from the new camp and the foreman guy at the bottom of the old mine are good options

some vendors also give extra for certain items, like wolf in the new camp will pay more for animal trophies like skins and shit, but importantly, this bonus ALMOST NEVER MATTERS because wolf's total ore to trade with is so much smaller than chronos or the old mine guy. the bonuses you get from the trader having more ore is way more important than shit like what wolf does

also animal trophies are a meme and not worth it whatsoever in the remake. shadowbeast hide (an end game tier mob) sells for like, 28 ore. and you cant even collect boatloads of the smaller stuff like bloodfly wings or venom sacs or whatever because the more of one thing you sell, the less it sells for until it just zeroes out.

weapon (black goblins are a good source), schematics you dont care about, and actual equipment like armor and rings and amulets will by far be your best earners. one good amulet sold will get you more ore than you will ever get from any amount of animal trophies in the entire playthrough
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>>741459914
It's a very shitty attempt at limiting player wealth disguised as being "realistic" In a nutshell, they just want you sell stuff more slowly
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>>741460627
>>741460803
Interesting, thanks for the explanation.
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>>741458114
You have to go to a tower in the middle of a lake at the bottom of the map that has two runes (one tps you to the Fire Mage Guild which is basically old camp)
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Is Scorpio in Old Camp the only NPC teaching crossbows? Joined New Camp and I am in chapter 3 so far.
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>>741461158
Yes, but you're going to get him in chapter 4 anyway because he leaves to go live with Cavalorn and teaches any camp from then on.
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>>741457697
I think Lee taught me 2-handed after I joined the mercs (you can join both mercs and water mages later if you are a fire mage). But I had mastered 1-handed before that point. Seems like going fire mage is the most fleshed out path story-wise.
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big fat hero cock deep in gomez' ass

gomez on his back w/ hairy thighs behind his head

hero spits and bites gomez face while driving deeper inside him marking him property

whole camp lisen and know
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Why does he look like chad version of Todd Howard?
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>>741447518
arch demon beliar let into the world for da orcs
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>install a mod just to easy a bit lockpicking minigame
>end up disabling it anyway
I mean in the OG i still savescummed every chest.......
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>>741447518
>He's not god or any god's avatar.
I don't know how you can say that if you played Gothic 3.
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I brained a lone templar walking on the road outside old camp holding a kings sword near the end of act 1 and haven't seen anything that hits harder since (im in the sleeper temple)
I don't even have any fucking 2handed training
Templars are weird, they are all walking around swinging big dick 800 ore swords but go down like bitches
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>>741463631
>he doesnt know
As you level up and get more gear, NPCs hesitate to attack you out of fear. Everyone knows your character has only been in the colony for mere days yet is somehow amassing power and connections at an insane rate, while they've been suffering for years to even get food for the day even as a guard. If you become a necromancer and wear Xardas' old robes while summoning shit, people will start fleeing from you.
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>>741449041
>>741449091
They did? Thank god. Now I don't have to be scared to sleep at swamp camp anymore. It happened to me then randomly fixed itself before. Ever since, I've stayed awake all night in swamp camp.
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>>741449708
Okay but where is he wrong though?
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>Lester using a two handed sword in the cover
>Only ever uses a one handed mace in the actual game
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>>741464245
It's an illustration of their final stand, before they went to the colony.
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>>741464436
It can't be, Milten is a mage there.
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>>741464487
I have the original cover in front of me and it has an army of spear fighters approaching them.
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>>741463821
That's unrealistic as fuck how do they even know
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>>741454807
I'm still in ch 1 but basically with miners rag + ring of iron skin + nek amulet you basically can facetank enemy as long as you put up block (no parry needed). Also should've pick heal rune from torrez first then immediately buy the firebolt, heal rune is fucking expensive yo!
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>>741466965
I heal with my cock LOL!!!
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>>741466785
>see dude who was in rags a day ago
>suddenly he's decked out in armor, all the bigshots are asking for him, and he's summoning fire rain from the sky
>he walks into my hut followed by 20 flying demons, 10 golems, and 50 skeletons
>p-please sir this way, my chest is right over here
How is it unrealistic that as the story goes on, everyone calls you a freshie, then they start treating you with respect, and in the end Gomez gets so fucking scared of you he has a mental breakdown and wants you killed so you don't kill him(which you end up doing).
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>>741466785
People keep talking how you've been everywhere and done all sorts of shit in just a few days.
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>>741464245
doesn't low skill 1handed fighter hold it with both hands?
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>>741467527
that untrained 1 h
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>>741467527
diago holds me cock in both hands
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>when you catch the pouncing wolf midair with your special attack from your FAT COCK
based
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>>741467512
*weeks
they talk about weeks. Form players perspective it's days. Later merc in chapter 4 talk how you're the go to specialist for any odd or fucked up job, and day1 you're told by various people that colony is small and if you do something bad everyone will know sooner or later. And that despite 3 camps, people often know each other or other people from other camps
so by the end average mienr thinks of you as a serial killer, mercanery, bounty hunter or another big shot who prolly fucked kings wife and got sentenced here, while average miner got thrown in for petty crime so no wonder they don't wanna go against something that act like seasoned warrior
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>>741468461
>fucked kings wife
with big merc convict cock lol~
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Freedom 4eva!
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>>741468727
That armor looks pretty nice, looking forward to playing this after a few more patches but I'll replay the OG first to compare and contrast. I think a G2 remake will be pretty interesting because that game is all sorts of fucked and could use some serious rebalancing. I'd like to see Paladins be true hybrid classes that have access to magic circles instead of the useless runes they give you, a sane crit/progression system, and a less boring lategame.
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>>741470090
I'm not a racist I hit my balls and cock again
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>need a horn ulumulu
>this is fine i eat shadowbeasts for breakfast now
>go to the cave near old camp
>GREAT shadowbeast
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>>741470597
is this the one in cave somewhere on pathway to swamp camp? the one that's having underway or something? I remember going inside to explore and some huge black wolf coming forward and i immediately jet
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>>741471671
It's in the forest next to Old Camp.
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>>741447917
looks almost the same
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>>741435559
Magic is now good
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>>741452774
She didnt betray you, she kills the one who betrayed her and Syra and called the guards which you killed already killed at that point.
There is also a way to rescue all 3 bitches.
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>>741447518
every other poster in this thread is incorrect
the sleeper is like an 'old one' of the gothic universe. there are three gods; innos, beliar, and adanos (there were plans for a fourth god whose name i dont know but that was dropped). but they are gods of the gothic world/universe

like an 'old one', the sleeper (and all demons) originate outside of the universe in their own place. the sleeper specifically is a god OF that old place. he is explicitly described as being stronger than beliar, which is why beliar hasnt drop kicked his ass by the time the nameless hero comes along. some people think that if beliar, adanos, and innos all worked together they could destroy the sleeper; or even any combination of 2 of them, but like all gods, all three are way too prideful to actually work together on anything

theres another theory that they ARE working together and that is what the nameless hero is; it's why the nameless hero accrues power, strength, magical skill and martial skill so astronomically quickly, being able to become a world class master in such things in less than 2 weeks whereas it took other masters like xardas over fifty years of dedication to ONE of those paths to do so. basically the three gods are behind the fact that you level up and you are their agent.

it also explains why the nameless hero is able to wield magic originating from beliar. most fire or water mages cant do that; xardas even comments on it at one point
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>>741472282
oh and one more thing, i dont give a fuck what those retarded cucks who were behidn the english voices say, its BEH-LEE-ARR, not BAY-LEE-ARR
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>>741435559
never played the original one but if i liked oblivion and skyrim will i like this?
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>Alchemy
>Smithing
Which one should I take? or should I take both? I feel silly hoarding all those material I will never get to use
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>>741472386
short answer yes
long answer yes but UE5 will make you want to tear your hair out seriously fuck this trash ass indian fucking poojeet engine no one should ever use UE5 for anything ever under any circumstances FUCK
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>>741472481
if you want to be a mage, you have to have alchemy
if you dont want to be a mage, take neither and save your LP unless you absolutely insist on roleplaymaxxing, in which case, more power to you
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>>741472498
works on my machine. maybe you work on my cock hehe
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>>741472546
What other skills are garbage?
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>>741472253
How save all bitches?
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>>741472862
Getting trophys
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>>741472871
It is pretty simple. Kill everyone after Firemages get killed
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>>741473141
So free the bitches from the mortal coil, gotcha
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>>741472546
is it worth mastering 1 h? do 2 h trainer is gated by chapter?
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>>741473703
2h trainer is gated by rank which itself is gated by chapter. earliest you can get to a 2h trainer is chapter 3
you CAN get to chapter 3 without investing in 1 handed but youll want to kill yourself. i advise getting at least to trained with 1h
you do NOT need anything in 1h to learn 2h
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>>741473961
Currently im trained in 1 h, bit pondering about mastering 1 h but honestly i prefer 2 h so i can play conan the barbarian lmao
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found a chess piece in the wild
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>>741474532
you can get to chapter 3 then train 2h easy
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>>741474532
You know conan rarely used 2h in the books Or are you referring to the dogshit marvelslop?
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Gothic 1 >>>>>>> Gothic 2
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>>741441976
I don't think it'll actually be that long, they can reuse a ton of assets
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>>741474962
Vibe and story? Yes.
Everything else? Fuck no.
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>>741436371
>look mom I'm simping
Kill yourself.
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Game's beautiful in the morning
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>>741475541
you find mud covered shithole rotting wood pits full of desperate and despairing defacto wageslaves beautiful?
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>>741475426
Gothic 2 NotR's mechanics are complete dogshit and everything after the valley of the mines is boring, also the factions are total trash with magic circles being locked to fire mages unlike G1.
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>>741472282
you're only partially correct
in g1r, sleeper is the entity on par or stronger than original 3 gods. Orcs summoned him for a long plan to kill all enemies, that require 1k years of waiting for demon to fully awake and enter the realm

in original gothic, it was just one of toptier beliar demons. His banishment not only caused the barrier to drop, but it called other spawn of beliar, like lziardman and his generals - dragons and undead dragon acting as a nameless hero, but for the beliar side, while MC is considered to be Innos avatar(as supported by claim from Undead Dragon that he and nameless hero are both the same tools for their respective gods)

I dont know why they shifter the sleeper form just Beliar minion to something on par with gods. Maybe they considered him to be way to weak or not an actual super threat compared to army of rakness and dragons in g2
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Whenever they talk about the Sleeper I just think
>WE HAVE WORMSIGN THE LIKES OF WHICH EVEN GOD HAS NEVER SEEN
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>>741476105
he asked in the context of g1r and therefore i am completely correct git fukt nigguh
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>>741476162
he didn't specify which version, and it should be your responsibility to point out a diffirence between original and remake to avoid confusion, making hima ware that there's some diffirences across the games
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Do you have to join the old camp to see gomez' girls bathing
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>>741476330
Every camp allows you to go there eventually.
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>>741436098
>>741436373
>live service balance patching in a single player game
Why would they do this?
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>>741476226
the thread is about the remake
therefore
the default information is about the remake
git
fukt
nigguh
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>>741476434
Because magic was complete dogshit pre patch?
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legged it as faster as I could
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I'm torn
The bandit armor looks the coolest but it's a sausage fest
The swamp is the most interesting area but the armor is dogshit and I can't figure out what the incentive to join it is nor do they let me see the women before joining
Gomez's whores are hot but he's like a less charismatic Jabba the Hutt
Can I even join any mages if I do swamp? I kind of want to do a melee magic hybrid now that magic just got patched
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>>741476893
Templars are basically the melee hybrid but beware in the swamp you can only learn up to the 4th circle but you get access to that directly in chapter 3. And you won't get access to the 5th or 6th circle ever
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>>741477196
innos & adanos chads vs the virgin sleeper cultist
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do you think gothic 2 remake will happen? if yes do you think it'll be vanilla or notr
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>>741477376
maybe in 5-10 years
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>>741477376
its almost certainly going to happen based on the fact that the nameless hero very deliberately ends the game on a teaser question
whether not itll be notr or vanilla... my guess is itll be notr but with custom balancing
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>>741436098
Mage gigachads won once more
Guaranteed that in the eventual remake of Gothic 2 magic will be equally great
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>>741477376
theres no way theyd leave out night of the raven content. im pretty sure theres more gothic fans whove played notr than vanilla at this point. the fanbase would riot
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>>741477376
100% happening, they sold 500k in a week.
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>>741477901
lets just pray that they dont use fucking ue5 for it or ue6
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>>741477947
They already built the game mechanics and everything in UE5, why would they start from scratch for G2?
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>>741478051
because ue5 is a garbage engine that still to this day causes many computers, including ones that are *more* than powerful enough to run the game on highest settings at 200 fucking fps like mine shut off randomly because its so shittily coded by jeet hands that it causes voltage spikes and shit?
and before you say it, ive already tried underclocking shit, ive already tried power limiters in BIOS, ive already updated bios, ive already turned off pcie power management windows bullshit, IVE ALREADY DONE ALL OF IT IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER IT STILL DOES IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

point is fuck unreal engine up the ass with a cactus and fuck tim sweeney in particular
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>>741478226
What's your spec?
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>>741478226
While your anger is understandable and I also wish they went for something more performance oriented than UE5 the Gothic Remake exists now in UE5. And it's good enough to sell 500k copies, pragmatically speaking there is no reason to switch off of it after spending all that time mastering it. Even if the current pc hardware situation is absolutely fucked
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>>741437972
The map and exploration of G3 was fine
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>>741444540
It doesn't exist even though the game says it does.
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>Beat up Gomez in chapter 3 and take his sword and the armor from the chest
>instantly lose any interest in playing
Why did the devs do this to me?
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>>741478336
i9-13900k YES I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THE MODELS THAT DOES THIS but its fucking ue5s fault for causing it either way because no other engine in the entirety of the world causes it
and
radeon 6900 xt
32 gigs of ram yes you read that correct 32 i bought it when it was cheap years ago
ssd
blah blah you know the rest

>>741478405
the pragmatic reason is that it infuriates every single person with one of the 5 most common intel cpus (aka a lot)
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>>741478226
>>741478670
Most people have zero issues, your PC's just a piece of shit.
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>>741450560
A conman in the city is more valuable to Lee than having one more sword at the farm.
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>>741478696
incorrect, you are a shill, go away faggot
this is one of the most bitched about issues with ue5, i just happen to be vocal about it on a mongolian basket weaving forum
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>>741478749
Works on my machine. :^)
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>>741478670
>radeon 6900 xt
You're underspec Unreal 5 games never failed me other than Oblivion Remastered
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>>741478670
5800X3D & 5070 Ti, works like a dream. Maybe stop being a poorfag and get some real hardware, hmm?
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>>741478226
It runs fine on mine, i7 and 3070ti, slight hiccups on loading prolly shader caching issue because i installed it on HDD but runs very well overall
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If you memed into buying Radeon, you probably deserve it.
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>>741478796
the gpu is irrelevant. its the cpu that ue5 causes microtimed voltage spikes in which causes it to automatically shut down
stupid faggot
>>741478823
again, its intel cpus
>>741478940
congratulations you have the literal ONE type of intel cpu that isnt susceptible; you are about 5-15% of the intel cpu userbase
>>741478981
zero complaints about radeon. again. ITS INTEL CPUS. and more importantly its fucking ue5 having dogshit code; the issue is not the cpu, its the terrible engine. anyone telling you otherwise is either ignorant, an argumentative faggot, or a shill
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>>741479093
You've made two terrible choices in a row(buying an amd gpu and an intel cpu) Don't blame the game for running poorly when you have such a terrible system.
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>>741479093
Feel for you bro. Epic and Intel should've fixed that ages ago.
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>>741479210
im blaming ue5 who is absolutely to fucking blame for it
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>>741479283
Idiots will blame everyone but themselves
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>>741460582
G2 remake is gonna a really fun one, I can already tell. If this goes on there will be wargs waiting outside of Xardas tower lmao
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>>741460627
>>741460880
Also pay attention to what kind of vendor it is. Mages will pay a 2 thirds of a price for weapons or defense stat rings compared to smiths or guys like Fisk who also sell weapons. But mages will take magic items for a higher price that a smith would, they also tend to actually pay something for animal trophies.
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>>741462370
>fire mage is the most fleshed out path story-wise.
That sounds like a bit of a joke considering you join them at the start of one mission and by it's end they are gone.
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>>741463391
Alkimia devs want sempai to notice them
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>>741463713
Because g3 is complete trash for anything that isn't exploration or music.
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>>741435559
devs did some interview and said that it's too early to say about 2 remake but if "everything will continue as it is now then it should be good", also they might add some new content to 1 as they ran out of time to add everything they wanted
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>>741464245
My dude Gorn is about to shit himself
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>>741479659
They already have all mechanics, a lot of assets and 1/3 of the game world to make G2. G3 is questionable, but it's the one that actually needs a remake in the first place.
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This nigga ass Gorn sat on his ass in the Monastery while I went down the cave of million snappers to kill the shadownigga
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>>741477376
Both are guaranteed but there will be a lot of rebalancing
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>>741480069
yeah he let you have the dubious honor of turning into a meatbug
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>>741457676
>Who are you?
>You still have to ask that? Search within yourself, you fool. You know who I am. I bear no name. Just as you bear no name.
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>>741478226
Based UE hater
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>137 dex
>zombies still take 4 shots to kill
should i expect skellies to have the same resistances?
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>>741480308
They're fucking zombies retard, just as you'd expect golems to take little damage against swords
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>>741480390
Uspokój się kurwa i nie przeklinaj
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>>741480543
Ko te pita šta, kučko
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Doing a second hardcore playthrough as archer.
How are people even enjoying this? I cleared all the minecrawlers in the old mine with a fucking 30 damage bow. There is no sense of progression or danger whatsoever
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>>741480308
>zombies
>blunt doesnt do shit, piercing doesnt do shit, slashing is normal, but theyre weak to fire
>skeletons
>slashing resistant but not immune, piercing doesnt do shit, blunt is great, also weak to lightning
youre welcome
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>>741480615
I only used bows out of necessity in chapter one because I got 2shotted by everything.
Once I got faction armor I went full melee and unequipped ranged trash
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>>741480615
>archer
found your problem
despite having ranged options, gothic has ALWAYS been a melee or magic type of game
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2x ore skin ring + armor amulet

I AM A FUCKING INVINCIBLE GOD
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>>741480773
>random bandit with a longbow 2 shots you
nothing personlel kid
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Lmao at all these mage and strcucks
I dont even have to smell the enemy up close to kill it 20 meters away from me
DEXGODS Rule this game
Just like notr
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>>741480773
>that monster tongue
you just know he draws hentai otherwise
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>>741480953
Sorry can't hear you over having to go back to town every 3 minutes to buy arrows
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>>741481126
Lmao skill issue, beat up bandits for like 30 arrows each, never run out of arrows and im shooting like machinegunner
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>>741480894
>ore skin amulet also gives pierce defense too
i dont think so tim
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>>741481206
It does? Wasn't it just edge/blunt
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>>741481242
nope.
its blunt/edged/pierce/every single magic attack in the game too
easily a goat tier piece
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I dont think this semen slurping game is for me
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New camp or old camp? Firemage or watermage?
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>>741480615
In the og dex didn't scale damage just incresed hit chance, in thew remake they changed that and didn't notice that almost nothing in the colony has piercing defense.
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>>741482007
new camp is objectively and morally superior
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>>741482007
If you like uniforms and being a bootlicker, old camp. If you care about equality and getting the fuck outta here, new camp.
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>>741482052
they have literal slaves
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>>741437168
first run on gothic dif. ended at level 35 with loads of enemies I didn't bother to kill, so I'm pretty sure you could manage an couple more levels

maxed STR
maxed all 4 melee disciplines (orc weapons didn't require LP to master, fisting was only 15 LP total)
alchemy
scroll writing
magic circle 2
max lockpicking
climbing
diving
acrobatics
all beast parts harvesting skills (14 skills, but some of them are free, quest rewards or given to you so you can do a quest)
scav riding (don't remember if this had any LP cost or not)
one handed smithing
two handed smithing
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i need help because im getting too confused now
i need to extract bloodfly poison glands and there isn't any NPC to teach you that, so i googled and it says to deliver bestiary II to cavalorn and he taugh me but not removing pheromone glands
so where the fuck do i learn it? how do i do it? do i need to find different bestiary or what? informations on the internet are not of much help
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>>741482128
You mean contributors. How else would we escape the colony if we don't have scrapers? and how else would we sustain ourselves until the escape without rice farmers?
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>>741435559
did they release a new Gothic? I thought the last one was like 15+ years ago
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>>741482174
>another speedreading retard filtered by skipping though NPC dialog
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>>741479569
With fire mage path, you also get quest content for shadows, mercenaries, water mages, and Xardas. You could also do warder if you cheese it. The only side content that you miss are bandits and swamp. What other path offers more content?
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>>741482052
I ain't playing any fucking commie shitter, Old Camp is tried and true capitalism.
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>>741482243
i've got fucking posion glands from minecrawler queen and there's no dialogue option
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>>741482174
You need to read the book called "bloodflies"
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>>741482289
you got it backwards anon, its the new camp that is capitalism
the old camp is just old fashioned feudalism
the swamp camp is weed lmao
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>>741482019
Why is this shit argument brought up again and again?
You stupid retard if you pump str to 60 and have a 40dmg weapon you also 2 shot everything like dex
stupid retards
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>>741482007
live rich and comfy in old camp and when new campers pop barrier you just leave with everyone
no need to make martyr of yourself living off rice and living with bugs, they'll be fine without your help
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>>741482386
>live rich and comfy in old camp
New camp literally got better looking huts and shacks that are not filled with muds. Not to mention that it has direct access to tons of water.
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>>741482258
I know what you mean but the dudes all die before you can even get to remember their names and I also don't like the Old Camp in general.
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>>741482373
Of course you oneshot shit but you don't do it from ranged. Bows simply aren't properly balanced, not that I am complaining.
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>>741480683
>zombies
>blunt doesnt do shit ... but theyre weak to fire
Had exactly opposite experience.
Basic firebolt didn't even scratch them but I could kill them with a mace like skellies.
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>>741482497
I don't know what they were thinking with the old camp huts. In the og game they were just made from simple boards and looked liveable enough. In the remake every hut is made from some weird ass tiny logs with holes everywhere. The NCs mudhuts are unironically better than OCs remake huts
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>>741482363
Swamp Camp is good old religious brainwashing and weed is the tool for it.
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>>741482612
I think that is only cause firebolt is literally a circle 1 spell, stuff like fireball should work better but the spell sucks. Anyone actually tried it since the patch, did magic actually improve?
I know the damage was upped but so were the stats of most monsters
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>like lockpicking
>now gives exp
>already picked everything
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>>741482765
>firebolt is literally a NOVICE spell
FTFY
It's not even part of circle one.
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>>741482497
The rice workers area looks so unbelievably comfy to live in I'm actually kind of butthurt we only ever get a hut inside the cave.
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>>741482879
There's around 400 chests, you won't get a full level from that over 20.
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>>741482879
>now gives exp
how much?
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>>741482997
I think it's 10xp per difficulty level
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>>741447998
damn that's horrible
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>>741482517
What's not to like about the Old Camp? You have a decent shack, your bro Snaf gives you daily stew, they have the best armor style, scantily dressed baddies that you can peep on, tons of stuff to steal, secret passages, and central location with a comfy forest nearby.

I joined knowing that Gomez was an asshole and I planned to overthrow him from the inside from the beginning. It would be cool if you could seize his throne and become the leader of the faction, but I ended up just killing everyone in there except the diggers.
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>>741483103
>I love old camp
>they scream so nice
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>>741480615
Good luck with Golems and Trolls. Undeads like the entire last dungeon, have high piercing resistance too. And everyone got buffed with the last patch.
You better keep the toilettpaper and mana potions.
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>>741483103
Funny thing I left everyone alive but the diggers.


Total Digger Genocide
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>>741483103
>they have the best armor style
basic shadow armor is easily the ugliest armor, a fucking red pyjama
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>>741483103
Even Fortuno's 3 joints a day are more valuable than
>Fleshbug ragu a la Snaf
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>>741483307
That you have to wear for all of 1 minute before you run over to Fisk and upgrade it fully. You aren't a poorfag after all, are you?
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>>741483103
>>741483309
Come to think of it... does new camp not hand out free shit like the other camps?
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>>741483390
Free use of Lefty's ass daily.
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>>741483390
No because New Camp doesn't want random retards to join for the gift basket. They only want dudes who are determined to gtfo
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>>741483390
you get digger rags for free, costing 300+ ore elsewhere
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>>741483461
I keep forgetting about those
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>>741483461
I didn't get that
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>>741483461
Yeah if you go to the Free Mine which is definitely ways off, and no quest leads there.

Exploration Bonus if you will
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>>741483491
Go to the free mine and lie to the foreman when he asks if you know shit about digging.
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>>741483390
You get free water and you can share it with your ricebuddies.
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>>741483542
>want water for later Alchemy use
>talk to Lefty and agree to deliver it
>get the water from that other dude
>beat the shit out of Lefty to complete the quest
You need to do things the Gothic way.
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>got blue bloody murder axe from Silas' chest
>finished Rice Lord's missing person quest
>axe was shit so I sold it for couple of ore
>much later stumbled upon a cave with bunch of alchemy tables and a note mentioning the axe
>guy guarding the cave was an asshole so I murdered him and his palls
>message pops up about update to Swamweed Monopoly quest I don't even have listed
I fucked something up, didn't I?
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>>741483794
Kinda but not really, those dudes are part of the Bran quest and if you joined weedcamp Kalom wants you to fuck their shit up.
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>>741483794
>selling an obvious quest item for a few fucking ore
People can be so irresponsible sometimes it's fucking hilarious
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>>741483889
he completed the damn quest tho, it's literally worthless
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>>741483889
The axe was an evidence in missing person quest I already finished.
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>>741483307
I had so much money at that point from stealing everything that I immediately upgraded it to top tier, which looks good. I liked it more than upgraded merc armor.
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>>741484001
Better than bandit armor maybe but merc armor looks great.
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>>741454807
Wolf's trade inventory refills with 70+ arrows every day
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>>741454807
>get hit like once by a tundra wolf
>time to eat 20 pieces of roasted meat to recover my health!
food and potions really badly need to heal based on percentage or something
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>>741483103
For me, it's swamp camp.
The most comfy hut in the game, with a nice bed, cooking pan in front of the door. The music is extremely comfy and the way the remake handles light and atmosphere makes it incredibly stunning, both during daytime and night with the light of torches and braziers.
No guards asking for protection money, free daily dose of swampweed rolls. And they got bitches too!
The highlight is how many other beds, crafting station (the blacksmith has x2 of every station so NPCs won't block you from crafting when they're stuck in their animation loop), the templar armor looks badass and they can train you in magic and 2handed like any other camp.

>but navigation is hard
its not after a few hours. NPCs wandering around the new camp is worse
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>>741484170
I'll be honest, I kinda like the bandit armor more. Looks weirdly comfy with all that fur.
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>>741484217
Can't you craft arrows?
Always thought feathers lying around everywhere were material for arrow crafting, but never bothered to learn blacksmithing.
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>>741484547
nope
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>>741482007
>mage
Its not or, its firemage->watermage. If you join NC, you can only become a mage in chapter 4. Firemage is chapter 3. And you progress into watermage after an oopsie.
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>>741482289
>nc
>commie
Retard. NC is libertarianism dialed to 11.
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>>741484475
I'll probably go swamp camp next time I play through the game in a couple of years. I agree that it has the best music of the 3 camps, but the whole soundtrack is great.
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>>741485157
That's how it worked in the original
In the remake you can become a watermage after the orc cemetary. It's a bit odd because you have to first become a merc, but after that you can talk to Nefarius who will tell you that you're ready to become a watermage. You don't have to be a gomez cuck for a full mage run anymore.
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>>741482563
so like notr? kek
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>>741484475
>Got to vacant bed in swamp camp
>Have to pass a roaming swampshark
Dangerous place
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>>741435559

How do you sell shit in this game if none of the vendors has any money? Went from act 1 to act 2, and wolf still has 20 ore. They don't seem to reset at all. I cleared the goblin cave near the waterfall (very fun btw) and now have a bazillion maces I can't get rid of.
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>>741478226
dude they already set everything up
They may switch to UE6 if its easy to do, but they will certainly choose either UE5 or 6.
You lost.
Not saying you are wrong
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>>741485783
Sell it to Cipher and the smith at swamp camp
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i've found a "basement key" in the mountain fortress but there is no basement other than the one i found this key in
already opened that chest on top where you gotta climb and opened another chest with that key and used bloodfly scroll to get to another chest on a separated section that contained crossbow but i still don't know where is this basement supposed to be
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>>741485783
Smelter guy at the bottom of old cave has 200 ore in chapter 1.
(much) later vendors will have thousands but early it's kind of limited.
Also mages will fuck you over and offer shit prices for weapons.
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>>741486143
when you enter the main tower, there will be a passage on the left leading to basement
the key opens the chests and gates in the back, pretty sure you got the key from the skellies in the shrine in that basement
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Did they add the "diversity NPCs" specifically for the remake, or were they there in the original?

The south indian mercenaries kinda take me away from the immersion
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>>741486553
Sadly in the original too. Which kinda does make sense given it's a bunch of criminals.
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>>741486143
As the other anon said it's just a key for the two cells that have a chest each in the same basement you found it in.
The locks aren't too hard so you probably already picked them without the key, that's what happened to me.
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>>741486553
>browns in prison break my immersion
This is your appearance.
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>>741486737
excess melanin doesn't fit in any fantasy setting.



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