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>tfw some village boy keeps telling you to "give peace and friendship a chance"
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Why are Dagdans like this?
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Anon, you can marry any woman you wish to but I had better not fucking see you bring a D*gdan wife to the Goddess's Rite of Rebirth festival.
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>>741474176
Third FE thread?
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All the big girls are gonna /ss/ with Cai
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>>741474176
She looks better without the crown
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>the average Fodlan man after learning about the women of Dagda across the sea
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She looks stupid without her helmet horns
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>>741474176
She looks weak to hugs and being told that people care for her as a person, not just a queen.
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https://tiermaker.com/create/fortunes-weave-character-tier-list-829686
Post em
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I feel like it would've been too easy to make a female lord be the "oh woe is me I can't deal with warfare if only we could see peace" kind of character so it's nice that the two female lords in 4W are both openly casual about killing people in different ways.
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This game is ugly as fuck not even marketers memes can save it
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>>741475140
0/10 taste
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>>741475143
Edelgard is the closest we had gotten, but even she would would drone on about how she wishes that the war she started wasn't a necessity and how regrettable war is blah blah.

Theo is based because she just fucking kills people, and battle is literally her hobby.
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>>741474176
Can't wait to watch this trash flop like every other shitch poo "game"
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Rank them based on how much you want to kiss them
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>>741475367
im over anime foids except ninae
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>>741475367
I only like the girl with glasses.
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>>741475282
post em
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>>741475140
Here's everyones tier list if they're being honest.
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>4 fire emblem threads
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>>741475752
4tune Weave
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>>741475747
i.e. normalfag taste
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>>741475752
5 actually
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>>741475747
Sex with desert Anna.
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>>741475140
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>>741475747
So shitty I had to make my own
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>>741475747
>cock slurper
Opinion invalidated
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>>741476068
shit taste
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Reminder that mangs is a caifag
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>>741475140
shit taste
>>741475747
super shit taste
>>741476067
ok
>>741476068
confusing
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>>741476131
I didn't know mangs was based like that
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>all these Ultand bads
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>>741476197
>Ultand
I'm going to assume he's the gay pirate and just say that you're gay
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>>741476131
Who cares about a dumb celeb
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>>741476241
nta but I'll learn you
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>>741476241
no it's the sex priest with the withering gaze
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>>741475140
Renamed peak because I'm old and crusty and the language the youth uses these days feels alien and scary to me.
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>>741476197
even that name is shit bro
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>>741476131
He aight
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Cutesythea
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>>741476363
>>741476373
Oh in her case I think her hair is ugly
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>>741476197
Her hair is dumb and she's likely getting shitted by Cai.
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>>741474440
Would Rhea give me her blessing to marry a fellow blonde of her choosing
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>>741476483
yes
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>>741476457
It is a curious hairdo
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I still need to do ashen wolves, golden deer, and silver snow. Also never tried 3hopes
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>>741476492
Oh my!
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>>741475367
Who has the biggest bush?
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>>741476553
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Making the dragons hot isn't going to stop me from killing them.
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>>741476583
Rhea was in the right
Besides showing too much mercy
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loli Rhea will show up in FW
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>>741475140
This needs the new blonde ponytail sword fighter
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>>741475367
That is...hmm...
Assuming all love me equally?
Ursula>Pink>Ninae>Glasses>Leda>Theodora
Wow that wasn't how I thought it was going to be since I'm a Theo enjoyer but yeah the heart says what it wants
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>>741476454
Old and busted
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>>741475367
Both of the brown girls on top thats it
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>>741476654
Please fucking god
Sothis Mommy mogs her loli version but I feel like a loli Rhea would be epic
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>>741475140
list is missing the blonde woman we got today. Who looks like the blonde man in the list.
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>>741476654
After my angel cock has obliterated this bitch
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Theodora if she was actually diverse.
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>>741476986
Make the lips bigger and you got a deal
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>>741476986
downgrade
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>>741476849
Holy fuck she's hot and I'm a hebefag
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Rhea is a saint stuck in a slut's body
A transslut, if you will
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>>741476986
You forgot to give the nose some big hippo-nostrils
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>>741477073
>
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I think the transforming coliseum is a cool idea and I don't get why some anons are doomposting about it.
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>>741477112
>>741477073
Old and busted
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Oyakodon
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>>741477234
It would be divine
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>>741477112
Any true saint would consider it her divine duty to purge infidels
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>>741474176
she's too gray
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>>741477279
No but srsly Rhea did nothing wrong
She should've been styled herself as the absolute monarch of Fodlan tho and not suffered the feudal system
I understand tho because all she cares about is mommy
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>>741477279
Is this slop or did someone actually try to draw like kubo
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>>741477161
19x19
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>>741477161
>backflipping upside-down 360 noscope
kino
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>>741476654
FW is a sequel, so she wouldn't show up as a loli.
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>>741476654
How is that supposed to work when FW is a sequel?
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>>741476986
If you think this is better you are mentally ill with a porn rotted brain.
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sequelcord
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Compile the evidence for and against sequel/prequel
>>741477423
This has no correlation as I am mentally ill with a porn rotted brain and prefer Theo's OG design
Honestly I'd prefer if she was pale instead but since it's Spain and she's meant to be moorish idm
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>Rhea tolerates Brigid and Almyra but not Dagda
What a shithole Dagda must be.
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>>741477161
I've never been alarmed about it. All FE maps have always just functionally been different sets of squares, no reason you can't achieve that in a colisseum. That being said, I expect at least one fight minimum where the colisseum is filled with water and two teams are on ships or i'll be sad
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>>741477391
>>741477161
Just like engage neat
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playing 3 houses again, which lord am I going with, is it edelgard or edelgard or maybe edelgard?
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>>741477423
Some times you just gotta accept you're just a dirty gooner :)
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>>741476131
Doesn't he need to virtue signal because he raped a girl or something?
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>>741477541
I'm thinking Black Eagles, route of Edelgard.
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this new fire emblem is just oozing engage energy.
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>>741477546
You're dirty because you have no running water in your country.
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>>741477568
I just took a nice hot shower after getting back from vacation in japan, im good :) I just like porn
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>>741477642
>getting back from vacation in japan
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>>741477567
Honestly it's more like Fates. This is the first Fire Emblem in a decade that a) is not a remake, b) is not a self-referencing meta anniversary game, c) is made by IS. So it's like the last game that had all that - Fates.
Dietrich looks like a Nohrian. Leda is Azura-coded.
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I feel they try way too hard with the bright hair colors on the dark skin characters
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>>741477713
I was honestly thinking about taking a Pic like that one guy, you know the one, in a kimono but never got a chance. I was busy lookin at figs
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>>741477707
where are the men
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>>741477756
Just say you dont like dark skin and keep it pushing
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>>741477756
best taste so far
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>>741477803
More like most basic
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>>741477795
They look like what happens if you click random in a western game character creator
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Oh my god, fuck Enbarr Infiltration on Maddening. I wanna lynch the fucker that OK'd this one.
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Why would an archbishop brainwash a surrogate vessel for her mother to be an unabashed slut?
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>>741477838
your tastes are basic
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>>741477478
Leda's video already has a ship docked to an island. I think at least one ship battle is almost guaranteed.
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Joining the Black Eagles!
Then intentionally missing the stupid cunt's coronation and siding with Seteth!
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>>741477793
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>>741477849
They look like anime characters
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>>741477852
She wouldnt, but she would fill her with futa dragon cum every night
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>>741478026
yeah
not very good anime characters
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>>741477852
being an innocent human enslaved by an evil dragon to breed her and her granddaughter... save me edelgard....
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>>741477508
Wasn't Claude the first one to do the upside down crit shoot?
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>>741477642
You like to watch too. I know your type. ":)"
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>>741478157
Ngl I have no clue I only played the blue lions route
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>>741478190
Watch porn yeah ;)
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>>741478157
Fates outlaws do that and finishing attack i think.
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>>741478301
Of your wife with other men.
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>>741477852
Dorothea in the background trying to drink the pain away instead of dealing with whatever this shit is.
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>>741478323
Im not married :3c but let's get back to talking about fe
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>>741478381
she deals with this shit all the time. This is like the third time this week Rhea's been brainwashing her into the perfect Nabatean breeding slut
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>>741478765
How can she be a slut if Rhea is pretty much the only nabathean left?
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>>741477375
If the entire game was limited to 19x19 sized maps, I'd be more concerned about their ability to squeeze out variety. But for only a limited portion of chapters? Less concerning.
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>>741478936
Manleth is around in Heroes.
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>>741478995
>If the entire game was limited to 19x19 sized maps, I'd be more concerned about their ability to squeeze out variety. But for only a limited portion of chapters? Less concerning.
the problem with these defenses is that every gameplay decision has looked bad and only gets defended with wait and see responses
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>>741478492
Not surprising :D
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I think this screenshot may have hidden clues about Theodora's activities in the tournament, but I haven't quite figured it out yet.
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>>741479104
>goes first
>goes last
keeeeeeeeeeek do alphies need that much hand holding?
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>>741479009
Rhea literally owes me milk
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>>741478936
She's programming her to be a breeding slut to make more nabateans, pay attention
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>>741479104
UNLEASH THE GREEK FIRE
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>>741477756
ftfy
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>>741479216
But byleth isnt a nabathean, so the only way to make more would be to breed with a nabathean, aka Rhea
And you cant be a slut for one person
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Sorry Nabatean Chuds. Frog is Aghartan Owned.
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>>741479396
Based.
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>>741479070
On the contrary, it seems like they've made several subtle changes to how 3H's systems work which I like. Classes have greater restrictions on what weapons they can use (and this includes battalions), there are indications of a greater range of status conditions and potentially buffs/debuffs, what we've seen of the hub makes it look more compact, and having your "free time" sections be limited by a turn timer should allow for more strategic planning in that mode (especially when paired with the overworld map). More controversially, I'm looking forward to the return of dungeons, but I can recognise that's just the dungeon crawler autist in me.

I feel like this is more an issue if you consider 3H's various customization and life-sim-esque systems to just be rotten to the core or not. I'm more inclined to think it was about the execution of the game's ideas, and the changes I've noticed do tackle bad aspects of those systems, at least so far.
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Hunter is a funny class. This is the first time it's shown up since New Mystery, and the first time it will show up in a new setting since Jugdral.
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>>741479070
>the problem with these defenses is that every gameplay decision has looked bad
You don't like weapon restrictions coming back? Or the Monastery getting removed?
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>>741475140
Don't forget our female memedon
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>>741479989
Ponytail like Jade?
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>>741479989
Alucard's sister?
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Give me Shamir grandma
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>>741480183
Fuck off
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Hot take: Engage's story isn't that bad. It's mostly just Alear and the cringey dialogue.
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>>741480183
Whomstve is the green bitch? I assume the other's are Shamir and Nel?
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>>741480558
Kiria from Tokyo Mirage Sessions
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>>741480587
I see. Found it boring and didn't finish. I fapped to Eleonora or whatever the Virion girl's name was
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>>741480519
Actual hot take here the dialogue isnt cringe at all
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>>741480519
You're right, it's not that bad. It's fucking terrible.
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>>741480618
I liked TMS a ton
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>>741480675
Why do you have a whole ass Wii U?
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>>741480713
Because I didn't have one when the game came out so I bought the deluxe edition and played it in Japanese
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>>741480675
Is Reincarnation that song that goes "KOWASHITAI!"
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>>741480669
>It's fucking terrible
Nah thats fates, engages story is just there it really isnt that bad at all I dont see why people act like it raped their mom
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>>741480761
I see. Are you an SMT fan?
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>>741480762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBQbXBdrvM
Yep

>>741480819
Nah, I've not played the SMT games, I bought TMS because I was an FE fan and got hooked. If other games play similar to TMS I'd definitely play them
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Fun fact: Only whites, asians and Hispanic people should be allowed to learn Asian languages like Japanese or Korean
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>>741476068
Why Not!Seteth so low?
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>>741480851
TMS is closer to Persona tbhdesu
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>>741480959
I dont like the color scheme
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>>741480938
Fun fact: knowing Spanish actually helps in learning Japanese, at least it did for me

>>741480980
I might play P5 soon
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>>741476147
Red cav higher than Green cav? Red's hair looks a little off to me, maybe that's just nitpicking.
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>>741481032
1. How does Spanish help?
2. Any reason why you learned Japanese?
3. Any tips? I've been going for 8 years with about 1-2 hours of studying everyday and I'm barely N4.
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>>741481147
Anki + Immersion helped me.
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>>741481147
>How does Spanish help
I don't know how true it is exactly but it's just in the way certain sounds are made, like the r in Japanese is a lot easier to do if you already know how to do Spanish r's. Plus Spanish is a fairly dense and fast language so if you can listen to Spanish well it makes listening to Japanese a bit easier since you're used to fast dense sentences.

>Any reason
Just wanted to

>Any tips
I can't help, I'm not anywhere near fluent, you probably know more than me. I haven't kept up with my studying in ages. Though common advice I see is just total immersion into the language. Watch anime without subs, play JP vidya, listen to JP music, etc
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Orson was Seth's green cav. Green cavs can't be trusted.
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Shamirs scizors with Catherine every night
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Am I tripping or do the graphics of this game look kinda bad? Seems like there is no ambient occlusion use.
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>>741481280
Orson did nothing wrong
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>>741481306
This is a bad thing why?
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Sharmir fucks only females.
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>>741481306
Before or after Catherine does the same with Rhea?
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>>741481341
after
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>>741481221
>>741481215
How do I get into immersion if I'm constantly pausing to learn every word I see and get bored because I understand very little story?
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>>741481306
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>>741481396
I played TMS, a JRPG, in Japanese despite not being able to read like 99% of it. Play a game that has furigana to make it easier to read the kanji if you have to. I think some of the newer Pokémon games have that
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>>741480806
TORtanic culture has created a certain group of people on this board who don't care about anything other than looking for the newest "flop" to poke fun at and pick on, and so they constantly force narratives about whatever the newest [thing] is being the WORST THING EVER that totally KILLED the franchise and the company that made it. Honestly just makes some of the hate towards Engage feel so forced and disingenuous. These faggots are a blight on any genuine discussion on /v/ they try to weasel themselves into.
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>>741481464
Yes. Every Pokémon game since Legends Arceus has it.
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>>741475367
>>741474176
3H was the worst thing to happen to this series, brought in normgroids in mass and this fucking artstyle FUCKING SUCKS. How did we get the art in echoes, a side game, but this is the best we can do for a mainline entry? Fuck this series man, also not buying a switch 2 for this shit
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>>741481534
Its not even just on here though like people will shit on engage for literally anything, had a guy tell me the ost was corny, like what does that even mean.
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>>741479549
https://files.catbox.moe/jc3nq3.jpg
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engage is fucking shit.
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Is it actually worth spending 600 on a switch 2 and 120 on FE: three houses just because I vaguely want to also play the new fromsoft game?
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>>741475140
Why are women allowed to design characters? The only good one I've ever seen is Bayonetta.
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I am never buying a switch2 unless the new pokemon comes out and /v/ says it's the best ever I just can't afford to be an idort anymore
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>>741481837
Women are the horniest.
Like even when design women they can't help it.
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>>741481765
Can't be worse than fo'tunes we'ayyve.
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>>741481710
Female Shez is just so much better
I like Femleth too
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>>741481976
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>>741482035
I'm literally Dimitri
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I hope Eshmel actually has a voice and personality.
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>>741482035
>still smaller than the frog
To be Shez, is suffering.
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To the anon who made the Sacred Stones Lunatic mod, how the fuck do I make Chapter 6 (the fog one with the spiders) easier? It's just a pure RNG fest
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>>741477469
Who's pushing this BS narrative? Rhea literally hired a Dagdan to be a de facto knight of Seiros.
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>>741482035
THANK you Doc!
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Eating Lunchables with Shez
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>>741482275
I'm assuming you're struggling to save the green villagers? Depends on whether Franz or Vanessa got good levels or not. If you got screwed, then Seth should be able to rush the boss still if you're really having problems with it. This is probably the first real escalation you'll experience for sure though.
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>>741482489
Other general tips I can give is that chapter 5 should have given you a torch and there was an antitoxin available back in chapter 3. I'm not sure how much problems poison is really giving you though. Let me know any real specific problems none of this really helps you with. If it's a specific enemy, please screenshot them.
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>>741481451
kek
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>>741474176
Yo can somebody get this ashy bitch some coco butter? Call the weird pube-haired kid from Liberia, I'm sure he's got some.
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>>741482489
Moreso that I'm struggling to survive. I barely used Seth but he's essentially required here. My other units get 2-3 shotted.
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Do we know why Dagda invaded Adrestia?
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>>741482995
Because it's there
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>>741482995
There's some hidden lore in the library about this. Adrestia was rumored to have a golden fruit which was mixed with drink flavor mix, a favorite in the dagdan slums.
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>>741474176
Is this game a prequel or sequel to 3H? Trying to figure out if I should play 3H before this.
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>>741483143
They're just in the same universe, you don't have to play 3H to play FW
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>>741483143
Probably a prequel, but we don't know. I would recommend playing three houses first anyway because this one will likely fix a lot of its flaws with the gameplay, so playing them backwards might be a bad time
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>>741483143
More likely to be a sequel, but I'd still recommend playing 3H anyways regardless of if its a prequel or sequel.
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>>741483143
Don't listen to anyone. It's probably neither a sequel or prequel.
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>>741483202
>>741483298
>>741483370
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>>741483143
It's a prequel and a sequel, there's time travel shit in FW
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>>741483492
It's prequel and further prequel
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>>741482658
There was a Torch?
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>>741483476
We literally do not know one way or the other yet and that seems to be by design to drum up lorefagging. But try out 3H if you have the time before FW anyway. It can be pretty fun.
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I was wondering if the game was already out wwww

I like how different the four pickable player characters look, it's pretty awesome. I like how sexy the girls are too. Legitimately interesting hook.
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>>741482927
What's your main group right now in general? How exactly have your attempts been going up until this point specifically? Are the horseslayer weapons causing you problems here?
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>>741483492
Byleth jumps through time to be in another game
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>>741483589
Top house of chapter 5 with Amelia. There was also a Pure Water in chapter 2 in the south village.
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>>741483623
Blatant shill post, do better nigga
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>>741474176
She looks so weird. Like she isn't just a black character (Which in itself is fine), but the like legit ash-grey skin just looks weird.
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>>741483623
Ursula put your clothes back on. You're embarrassing me.
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>>741483476
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Camilla in FE Warriors is sexy as per usual, but there's something kinda uncanny about how her tits don't jiggle or really respond to any kind of movement at all. It kinda makes it seem like they are Barbie doll-tier hard sculpts, locked in place forever.
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>>741484145
until you use her special attack
They jiggle plenty
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>>741484198
I can't see
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>>741484043
>Anna
Pick a better girl.
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>>741483645
Eirika, Seth, Lute, Colm, Franz, Vanessa, Artur, Joshua, Moulder and Ross.

The only horseslayer I ran into was a Fighter with a Halberd, which Seth easily dodged and killed. It's the reinforcements and the top cavaliers that are killing me.
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>>741483693
I did get those, just didn't realize
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>>741484357
So if you can kill the Fighter before he attacks you with that Halberd, he'll drop it instead. This gives you an opportunity to use it against the cavs up north and that show up at your spawn point. Eirika should also be pretty good against the lower level cavs here because of her Rapier and natural high speed. Things to be wary of is there's another horseslaying weapon from a knight in the eastern part of the map, the Thunder tome mage, and an archer near that Helberd fighter. Vanessa and Seth should be good against the mages here along with whoever is holding the Pure Water.
I can see why you're having trouble though, this chapter has fog, poison weapons, steel weapons, ranged weapons, and a good enemy mix to take into account, along with reinforcements that jump you.
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>>741484278
>>741484389
Blindest man on the planet
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>>741475140
good taste honestly, except for NinaEh

>>741475747
>sothis in great
>gun nun in shit
>cai schizoism
HAHAHAHAHA how about no. Good "best" line up though.
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Is Cai named after quails, or cailles in french?
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>>741485168
He’s named after a nigger rapper o algo
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>>741485002
You have the most garbage taste I’ve ever seen especially putting the best Anna in trash
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>>741482995
It was retaliation for when Adrestia invaded Dagda, but that itself was retaliation for a previous Dagdan invasion (there have been 3 wars between Dagda and Adrestia in total). So really we don't know what the fuck their problem is.
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>>741485168
It's Kai but treehouse thought it looked too japanese with a K
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I wonder if I should be worried about people being able to get the Light Brand in chapter 19.
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>>741485238
>You have the most garbage taste I’ve ever seen
Honestly sounds like a compliment coming from an Annafag.
I'd put any Anna in trash it's not personal. I do like her design but she's still an Anna so >>>/trash/
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>>741485495
the dude that Leda tries to kill might actually be his father after all
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>>741485495
Why would ISis throw a japanese name into a western themes Fire Emblem though, it has to be a western word.
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>>741484603
Despite using Vanessa as much as possible, she can barely do more than chip damage
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>>741485736
>western themes Fire Emblem
You're saying that as if previous Fire Emblem games weren't western themed

>it has to be a western word
No, you just really want to find some meaning where there isn't any.
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>>741485736
he is German
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>>741485740
And she dies in 1-2 hits and most enemies have like 60% hit
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>>741485791
No I said that because I didn't want anyone to come at me with a stupid counterargument like "b-but HOSHIDO" but apparently I have attracted another type of pointless drivel
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>>741485740
>>741485873
Avoid having her fight the cavs, knights, or fighters if you can. The first two are naturally too bulky and the last has weapon traingle advantage. She should mainly be taking on soldiers or mages this chapter only. Unfortunately, because she's a flying unit she can't really use terrain to her advantage here like all your other units.
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>>741487056
I managed to get through, though no matter what, couldn't save all the civilians. I don't recall the reward being particularly good unless you've changed it. Ross promoted into Pirate, Lute got a perfect level up, Seth, Franz and Moulder got single point level ups.
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>>741476580
Theodora obviously
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>>741487341
A white tuft of fluff
crotch mofu, if you will
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>>741475367
Ninae > glasses > marriage gap > Alexandra > Leda > Ursula > Theodora
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My wife
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>>741481567
Finally someone says it. How in the actual FUCK did we get another game with this horrendous artist.
Literal dogshit Soejima wannabe.
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>>741481567
Engage on the other hand was the best thing to ever happen to this series. It set the bar so low that anything FW does is going to be viewed as a massive improvement.
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>>741489297
>How in the actual FUCK did we get another game with this horrendous artist.
That's what gaming companies do more and mor. An entry was sucessful? Repeat everything about it. Do NOT analyze the reasons for it's sucess, just copy it's systems, art style, soundtrack, lore, and launch a new entry. Milk that first sucessful game dry with 3-5 games in that setting copying everything about it, until people cannot stand the sight of it anymore.
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Fuck off back to your containment board.
>>>/vg/
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>>741481765
I actually enjoyed it but can’t fucking stand engaygies trying to defend it.

Non-existant story and omega cringe character designs that almost killed the series themselves.
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>>741490186
Waiting for my wife glasses-chan
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>>741489297
anime scares off the normies
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So we've moved on from characters like Edelgard and Camus being Char Aznable clones, to having Scirocco clones?

This guy is already ruined by his uncanny resemblance and having the same name as Scirocco.
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>>741490257
But FW is anime as hell.
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>>741490103
Same, I love Engage, replayed it multiple times, but Engaygies are mentally ill.
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>>741479626
>Classes have greater restrictions on what weapons they can use (and this includes battalions)
Here's something I do want to know, how restricted classes actually are at the end of the day? Yeah, seems like wyvern riders can't use bows anymore, but I feel like this discussion is so shallow when it really was more the strong Combat Arts like Point-Blank Volley that meshed well with the stat balls they tend to be. When even mages come packing with swords and axes and cavalry classes are all Great Knights from the get go, do you call this "restricted"?

The Battalion restriction is at least more notable given how they give major stat buffs and infantry need them more than cavalry, but that seems more a result of not seeing the full list of classes and battalions.
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>>741477478
The video you're replying to is literally that
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>>741490338
>giggle physics in the 2d portrait
SOVL
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>>741481567
Echoes flopped, that's why.
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I'm actually confused about the Engage story argument because Shadows of Valentia had a near non-existent story and exceedingly boring characters too but the "muh story"fags circlejerked the hell out of the game. Hell, I'm confused how Alm was praised for not being an Avatar, he had LESS PERSONALITY than an Avatar. Literally the only Avatar I'd consider worse than Alm is Corrin and BEING BETTER THAN CORRIN IS NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT.
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>>741490626
>but the "muh story"fags circlejerked the hell out of the game
Did they?
I remember most people not talking about the game, or if they did, it was just about how shit the maps are or how nice the art/voice acting was.
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>>741490543
>giggle physics
heh
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>>741490626
The only thing I remember the story of echoes inspiring was a mountain of Celica ntr porn.
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>>741490626
>because Shadows of Valentia had a near non-existent story and exceedingly boring characters too
Presentation matters. I like Shadows of Valentia's characters more than Engage's characters on that alone.
> I'm confused how Alm was praised for not being an Avatar, he had LESS PERSONALITY than an Avatar.
I preffer a generic character with his own story than a blank slate but I can't really decide major things like I can in a CRPG. Avatars are the worst thing to happen to FE.
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>>741490804
That's pretty accurate.
>the portraits are pretty
>fixed character automatically good avatar automatically bad
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>>741481567
Echoes has a cast of like 30 playables and 10 villains, including Randy Random the Bandit King. When you are Hidari and is such a high-valued name in game art design, and this is a franchise KNOWN for burning out their top talent like Wada Sachiko and Senri Kita and Yosuke Kozaki, this is pretty much the only game you actually want to do and nothing fucking else. This is pretty much free money compared to literally any other FE game.

>>741490626
>>741490672
There was a very early subset of people that praised the storytelling of Echoes when they really meant the presentation. A lot of them were and likely still are hardcore Berkut fans and/or coming straight out of Fates: Conquest. This was before the Misogyny complaints and Sacred Echoes popped up, the latter being notable for """pointing out""" and """criticizing""" the storytelling of Echoes.

Which, yeah, Echoes is really badly written. And genuinely insulting to Gaiden's fairly straightforward and decently told plot for a Famicom game. Just that I know a lot of them are still the same dickriders for the story.
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>>741490626
>he considers Byleth better than Corrin because he has more fuckable options for him to self insert into
Byleth is absolutely awful as an Avatar, the only reason anyone cares about them is because they want to fuck their students, or they want to fuck the frog. Corrin at least has a personality. Alear's generic good guy personality is at least something but I'd also rate them worse as an avatar. Guess that isn't to far from your typical main lord before avatars though. Still I prefer avatars who make me feel something for them and don't solely exist to self insert into. I don't expect this angel to be any better either.
Robin>Shez>Corrin>Alear>Byleth
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>>741479549
Shez is shit
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The lines between lord and avatar as been blurred for sometimes now. The only avatar that felt like avatars are Chris and Robin. Every other ones have just been Lords with an avatar label.
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>>741474440
>>741476483
>>741476553
>>741476583
>>741476625
>>741477073
>>741477112
>>741477234
Made and meant to be bred by male Byleth
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I'm glad that at least something from Echoes (other than the turnwheel) gets to live on from that game with the dungeon exploration coming back, hope that they retune it in FW and make it more fun.
10/10 in all aspects of the presentation. Animations, Art, VAs, Music, etc. But everything else about it was rancid dogshit and it's my personal least favorite FE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZHcVMqXGhQ&list=RDtZHcVMqXGhQ&start_radio=1
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>>741477279
Bredable women for byleth
>>741482035
Shez is worthless
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>>741491241
I liked Invoke
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>>741491178
Not just bred, turning into a baby factory
Perpetual pregnancy
She WILL develop an addiction to giving birth
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>>741491178
Truvth, she was made for restoring the Nabatean race with her son/grandson/mother/brother MC.
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>>741491241
This track is so fucking good, I forgot how much I loved it
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>>741474176
Black skin on a Japanese frame always looks ridiculous. They just draw an anime character and use the Fill tool.
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>>741491241
I still see people online talk about how good God Shattering Star is, but I don't know how Echoes' Twilight of the Gods isn't always up there in the conversation. Easily the best FE track imo.
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>>741491363
This, she needs to become the new progenitor mother of all nabateans and propagate as much as Sothis did when she made the race the first time.
Except Rhea will do it the natural way instead of using her blood and alien dragon magic like Sothis did.
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I will never get over the artist downgrade. They owe EVERYTHING to Kozaki and they replaced him with garbage.
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>>741491241
>"The seasons they turn, memory fades, but when my name has been lost to the grave."
>"I will sustain you year after year, I will protect you when dangers appear."
>"And though I am gone, just ash in the wind"
>"One life surrendered so yours can begin~"
I'm so pissed that Echoes sucks, it's such a beautiful game.
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>>741479549
For me it's M!Byleth and F!Shez. :D
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>>741490626
>I'm actually confused about the Engage story argument because Shadows of Valentia had a near non-existent story and exceedingly boring characters too but the "muh story"fags circlejerked the hell out of the game. Hell, I'm confused how Alm was praised for not being an Avatar, he had LESS PERSONALITY than an Avatar. Literally the only Avatar I'd consider worse than Alm is Corrin and BEING BETTER THAN CORRIN IS NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT.

Also Echoes portrayed its villains in the most black/white way the franchise has ever seen. Like every enemy Alm faces against is so a ridiculously evil or a blue skinned boogieman who sold their soul to the devil.

>"HAHAHA IM A NOBLE! I WAS BORN BETTER! A PEASANTS PLACE IS ON THE END OF MY LANCE! HAHAHAHA!"

It unironically makes the incredibly thinly veiled villains like Validar or Garon seem reserved by comparison, and it makes the case of Celica "balancing" Alm out with compassion a total joke because its such a Black/White story that Alm's literally in the right to fight every battle he does.
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The Location:Dagsion really makes me think they'll pull a Metaphor and have hubs in different cities you move around at some point.
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>>741491515
>Easily the best FE track imo
Close but that's Conversation 1
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>>741491950
Nah, that's a waste of resources. By Dagsion I think it refers to the town part and the other locations are going to be inside the arena and other buildings.
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>>741491785
>"HAHAHA IM A NOBLE! I WAS BORN BETTER! A PEASANTS PLACE IS ON THE END OF MY LANCE! HAHAHAHA!"
You faggots loved it when the Tellius games did it.
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>>741490852
>This was before the Misogyny complaints
what
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>>741491785
Valentia is a sufficiently believable world, it’s not surprising that shitty nobles act like shitty nobles. It doesn’t matter that the writing is simple, the characters behave naturally enough not to break the player's immersion. Engage/Fatesfags don't really care about that. (I'm not saying SoV's story is perfect, far from it)
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>>741491746
Objectively correct choices.
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>>741481567
Wasn't the guy for Echoes really expensive and gaming wise locked into GUST contracts all the time? That'd be an explanation.
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>>741477338
>No but srsly Rhea did nothing wrong
She trusted Edelgard.
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>>741492181
Modern Echoes' writing complaints are focused heavily on the perceived misogyny of the game. From how every character you save is a woman either captured, mind-controlled, or both; to how Celica is far more flawed a person than Alm but also always need saving by a man (either Alm or Conroy), to Rinea not even pretending to be a character and just Berkut's sidepiece, they complain how the game is misogynistic. The game can't just be badly written, it has to be a direct attack against women.

There is a lot of points in their favor, especially with how compared to Gaiden Echoes is somehow ruder to its female cast (they even have to give begrudging praise to Kaga, who they call 'weird' all the time -- weird being weasel word for evil and a sexual predator in waiting). But the misogyny complaint is incredibly loaded and accusatory, likely a carryover from 3Hfags/anti-3Hfags who only view "media" as indictments of one's character. The "All Art is Political" """people""".
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>>741491785
>>741490626
Literally what is the issue with the evil noble character archetype? Are stories only deep, realistic, and good if not a single noble in it acts like they have more rights and more money than a fucking peasant (which was more often than not considered property of the lord along with the land by the way)? What a joke. Open a history book or look at how men behave in any situation where they can kill their fellow man with no repercussion.
I liked the echoes nobles too, there was a wide spectrum of values among them and the commoners were probably the most class conscious in all of FE.
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>>741492547
The usual retards.
They wouldn't survive Tearring and Berwick Saga.
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>>741491950
My guess right now is
>Act 1 is the tournament arc
>Hell opens up in the coliseum
>Entire hub town gets swallowed up and becomes inaccessible, most of the units you didn't recruit end up trapped and dying there
>Your army has to flee to some far edge of Dagda
>Act 2 is traveling all over the Dagdan map to do various things and find the macguffin that'll close hell
>"Hub" is now just a camp like 3Hopes did
>Hub might have a different floor and background texture depending on your location, but the layout stays the same
>Coliseum is now the final fight location
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>>741492201
Wtf ciphers have original characters? Is the card game even that popular in japan?
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>>741481312
>Seems like there is no ambient occlusion use
Idk why I'm responding to this hours-old comment. I guess it just triggered my autism a little. Ambient occlusion essentially means "modeling of shadow." It's the brightness/darkness gradient as light hits each successive area of a form slightly more intensely.
So yeah, this game has that. It would look very strange and flat if it had absolutely none. It's not incredibly realistic with it, but it is there. Pic related.
Whether the game looks bad or not is more of a subjective question.
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>>741492840
Ciphers had 4 characters you could unlock in SoV as DLC. The card game is dead tho
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>>741492547
>The "All Art is Political" """people"""
You should have started with that sentence you could have spared me from reading that schizo culture war logorrhea
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>>741492928
That's why I skim a post before reading it, red flags like that usually jump out and indicate the rest isn't worth reading.
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>>741492706
The problem comes down to, and lemme wear my /leftypol/-cap here, is that the game doesn't actually criticize monarchy as a system. It doesn't have anything to say as to WHY these nobles are evil, they just ARE. And that would be fine, were it not the big twist of the game is that Alm is actually a Super Secret Super Noble That is Pure & Good and Will Save the Country from the Actually Evil Demon Religion and THIS TIME monarchy will work. And don't worry, the Emperor that actually put all the nobles in charge is actually on Alm's side and wanted his own son to kill all the super evil nobles and them himself instead of...not putting them in a place of power they could abuse the populace in the first place.

It is incredibly tone-deaf, far more than the usual kingmaker idea Fire Emblem runs with. Gaiden definitely doesn't give much to work with, but Echoes doubling down on everything for...some reason, on top of Alm just being a blatant Gary Stu and NOT Celica's equal in any way, makes the game's writing and commentary on nobility come across as insanely hollow. When you consider they are selling backstory DLC for Berkut and Ferdinand to "explain how they become classist caricatures", is there any reason to actually defend Echoes on this point?

>>741492928
Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.

>>741492901
While SoV had the first 4 OCs as DLC, Cipher actually had 8 different OCs by the end.
>Emma
>Randal
>Shade
>Yuzu
>Alice
>Valjean
>Nimah
>Poe
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>>741490186
the update is tomorrow night so not much longer
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I'm as glad as the next guy to see that the school setting is gone, but one thing I will miss about it is that with the new setting is that I doubt we're going to get any of those more impactful 2nd Act conflicts between units that used to be friends. Not that all of them were emotional sledgehammers, but some of those pre-battle comments were pretty sad and there's a couple I straight up refused to do like making Annette and Mercedes fight each other.

Great theme song for making students kill each other btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6oZ2pGSRyQ&list=RDs6oZ2pGSRyQ&start_radio=1
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>>741493297
I'm not trying to doom here, but there's no way this game is going to be as popular and grab as many new players as 3H. The combination of pretty boys and cute girls in an aristocratic school setting is unbeatable. To this days there're artists on twitter than don't draw anything other than self-insert art with Dimitri.
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>>741490186
>>741493283
Now that we're past the lords, hopefully the updates will be more significant, showing stuff we genuinely haven't seen. The lord portrait teaser half of the update felt somewhat redundant. Maybe we get some new names and HD portraits now.
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>>741493182
>the game doesn't actually criticize monarchy as a system. It doesn't have anything to say as to WHY these nobles are evil, they just ARE
I thought it was tied to the dragons' influence. Each dragon corrupts people in a different way: Mila's gentle nature leads Zofia to become lazy and indulgent through abundance while Duma's harsh nature makes Rigel aggressive and emotionally hardened through struggle. The point isn't really about monarchy being evil but about people taking control of their own destiny instead of relying on dragons.

Then they failed to make a good story with that idea...
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>>741491746
Smelly and partially retarded mercs were made for one thing.
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>>741493297
I wanna FUCK Annette!
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You recon they'll pull a Xenoblade 3 and push the game release a little bit back or maybe make it sooner? I really don't like the current slot it has, especially at that price. Even if I'm hyped.
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>>741493726
We learned a lot of new stuff though
>cai has two crests
>chickens can bypass obstacles
>cat mask girl is playable
>mysterious blonde was is a ponytail myrm
>two units that we haven't seen before
>4 new enemy factions
>the name of the teams
>dietrich is a siscon
>game has mechs
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>>741490626
SoV and Kaga games more generally mastered aesthetic storytelling - the sublime. There's a sense of grandness & myth underlying. It's strongly suggestive instead of explicit.
People call this "presentation" I think, but that name belies what it's really about. It's about mythmaking and imagination, and is what is missing in more grounded games like 3H - the willingness to be a little mysterious and epic. It's why I never bought the notion of it being Genealogy's successor, it just totally gets the intuitive-feeling aspect wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJgyKXb9DeA
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>>741493972
August made sense. There's no Nintendo game releasing in August. The fact that Omimusha moved forward is a sign that a lot of devs are freaking the hell out that so many games moved to September.
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>>741493724
I don't think it's doomposting to say that, 3H was truly one of those lighting in a bottle situations that grabbed normalfags by the balls.
Something that people need to get an understanding on is that 3H is a massive outlier in more ways than one for FE and that FE is not a franchise where line is always going to go up. It's also a franchise where it doesn't need to keep going up to live.

FW will sell millions, /v/ will shitpost about how it didn't sell as many millions as 3H and FE is doomed. But you can bet your ass those millions it does sell is more than enough for IS to keep making FE games until the heat death of the earth.
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>>741493972
I haven't seen something like that happening ever since
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>>741493972
>>741494163
August would be great, but given the $80 price tag they trying to sell at, Nintendo/IntSys are obnoxiously confident in this game's success. Monolithsoft always been super reasonable with their games at the end of the day. I highly doubt they would move it up from the September-October Death Zone.
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>>741493182
I wasn't the one who asked...

>>741493182
Did you really expect devs passionate about western medieval fantasy and living in a monarchy to make a critic of monarchy and how systemically it breeds evil nobles? I mean, you only need play a few years within japanese media to understand that within the japanese psyche (and not just them really) there is a temptation, or even a desire to be ruled by a benevolent, legitimate authoritarian. Call it emperor nostalgia or whatever but for me many of these games and this kind of storyline answer that need. Not that I'm too fond of it as a french leftist myself but the games are clearly not there to criticize or reform absolute monarchy and nobility as systems but to indulge in them. That's very different. Although it should be noted that Tellius exists and does a lot more than indulge, which is why it's probably the best FE on that front.
Regardless, Evil Noble Lives Matter, I love them. Hopefully FW has good ones.
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>>741492103
No, I hate Tellius too.
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>>741493975
I want to see the characters and mechanics of this game already, not all this cocktease. We only know the names of 4(?) side characters, and nothing else about them. That's silly.
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>>741493972
Is there anything in that release window that overlaps with what a FEfag would be interested in tho?
Only thing I can think of is maybe that Star Wars XCOM game. And for me personally, the only reason I give a slight shit about that game is because of the genre, not enough to sway me from buying FW and playing it day 1.
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>>741492547
Yes, women need to be saved and led by men. In that regard, Echoes is 100% correct.
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>>741491678
I like kozaki but toilet bowl armor...
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>>741494462
The thing is why did they TRY to pretend they had something to say about monarchy? The nobility theme wasn't a part of Gaiden's writing. Ferdinand and Berkut and the like did not exist in Gaiden. Echoes didn't need to have this really blatant commentary it had to fumble over itself because of it being attached to a game that is very much an Arthurian Legend like the other FE games.

The noblesvs. commoners theme is completely idiotic in a game where ONLY NOBILITY CAN SAVE THE WORLD.

>>741494735
Fairness, he wasn't the one that designed that armor, IIRC.
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>>741490852
>>741492547
>>741494681
Echoes was too based for reddit and twitter
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These might be the ugliest character designs in any FE. Why the fuck are they grey?
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>>741494838
>The noblesvs. commoners theme is completely idiotic in a game where ONLY NOBILITY CAN SAVE THE WORLD.
This also derails Edelgard's point on crest reliance and merit - given how powerful Relic weapons are in universe (not in gameplay), it's any meritocratic system that ignores that nobility has a clear edge in being able to use monstruously powerful weapons that turns non crest-bearers into monsters, and thus are inately inferior, is missing a significant part of the equation.
Seems to be a common theme in modern IS.
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>>741494998
The grey chick is cute. I'm racist and my only concern is the maps and game systems being shit. Brown women are cute.
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>>741475140
genuinely just massive amounts of garbage
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>>741493724
I still find it hilarious how /v/ talked about for years how a FemDimitri would sell bajillions and IS actually made that a character.
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>>741494838
Ferdinand and Berkut are more drama vehicles than commentary on monarchy really. I don't remember echoes very well admittedly but for me they exist because the devs tried to create consequences for the most outlandish plot beats of Echoes to increase the weight of the narrative. Notably making a farmhand the leader of your army and hiding your heir from the public eye. Fernand and Berkut are the direct victims of these decisions and I think it works very well.
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>>741494998
Japs don't mind the grey skin, they don't see any blacks irl so it's on the same level of fantasy for them
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>>741495190
They fucked up at the finish line.
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>>741495160
picky eater
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>>741495160
anyone who says the designs are bad whilst putting bootleg alucard at the top should not be taken seriously.
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>>741495190
It won't. Dimitri is cool because he is a man.
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>>741495190
All they need to do to seal the deal is reveal a pure schizo version of Leda and every FEfag will buy 10 copies each.
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>>741495190
I hope not because if she's a straightforward copy she's gonna underperform and inevitably invite comparison and be deemed an inferior or even skippable route. And we all know there is no way IS can write a better Dimitri than Koei's writers anyways.
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>>741495392
>Dimitri is cool because he is a man.
That sounds gay anon.
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>>741495392
Patriarchy is male loving: the post
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>>741493726
we either see glasses chick or info on the regions on monday
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>>741495392
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>>741474176
Would you with Snickers Snek
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>>741495190
/v/ is retarded. FemDimitri wouldn't be nearly as popular as the male version. Not even a fraction.
But Dimitri is more than just revenge though. It's the whole arc.
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>>741495024
Edelgard at least have a couple points in favor, being that crests CAN be transferred to the crestless and nothing requires the Heroes' Relics to be used. Sreng and Almayra are threats, but ultimately a human conflict that can be resolved through human means. Not...the genocide of an entire race and upholding an unstable system that rewards dehumanization.

Mila and Duma can ONLY be killed by the Falchion, which only those of the specific bloodline can wield. Without Alm, there is zero chance of anything being done and the world is doomed to be destroyed by a cult.

>>741495196
>the devs tried to create consequences for the most outlandish plot beats of Echoes
I know this is a mispeak, but every outlandish plot beat of Echoes is literally ONLY ECHOES. The most crazy bit of Gaiden's story is Rudolph's Plan, that which Echoes ONLY MAKES MORE INSANE through the idea that Rudolph wouldn't tell his nephew that he is NOT IN LINE FOR THE MONARCHY. Alm being the leader of the Deliverance was simply because no one else was able or willing to help Clive save Matilda. And even then, he was all ready to just start swinging swords because Fuck Desaix!

Berkut, Ferdinand, any noble vs. commoner idea does not need to exist and only does so as just testing grounds for Edelgard's writing AT BEST.
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>>741495392
Liking a character because they have a dick is weird dude
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>>741495190
Leda can't match Dimitri's psycho levels because she seems to actually take care of herself and has actual goals and interest that are seperate from her revenge quest.
I don't think Leda will go full captain Ahab at any point. We do have a character named Ishmael though so you never know...
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>>741495386
>alucard stops being good design when it's in a different game
k
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>>741495392
Trvke
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>>741495739
Alucard is good design. Copying Alucard is boring and it's hard to call that good. Dietrich also doesn't look as good as Alucard.
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>>741475140
Not eating good time, my only hope is Alucard's lil sis
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>>741495663
The only 3H lord who would meaningfully have their popularity harmed by a gender swap is Edelgard

Fem Dmitri would absolutely have fans
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It'd be funny if Leda becomes a disheveled hobo at some point, like Dimitri. Like a genuinely stinky homeless schizo with matted greasy hair and poor hygiene. Guys don't like that in women, and the difference would be made apparent then.
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This is what will happen to Leda when I steal her away to my mountain abode
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>>741495825
>Fem Dmitri would absolutely have fans
Of course, just not as many. Not even close.
Claude I agree.
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>>741495160
>Theodora in decent
>Leda in bad
B-Based...?
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>>741495392
Very based and correct take.
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>>741495796
>Peak
Based
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>there are anons itt that will pick Male Eshmel and then Dietrich as their lord
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>>741495951
You have no idea how popular I can fix her girls are, imagine pic related but with big tittied femDimitri
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She will give angel kisses
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What actually happens to Dmitri in Verdant Wind? Does Claude just randomly kill him? I never played that route.
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>>741495024
That didn't strike me as strange because in the first place CF is a tone deaf route about Edelgard, a privileged authoritarian staging a self serving revolution "by the people and for the people" toward an even more fascist, corrupt, and expansionnist state than Adrestia already was. It's not her first nor her last contradiction.
I absolutely lament that nobody within the cast clocked this and dragged her through her own shit though. That would have been glorious to watch but it's still pretty self evident to anyone who's not both politically iliterate and an Edeltard.
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>>741496242
He tries to chase an injured Edelgard after the Battle of Gronder while he also barely alive so he just gets mirked off screen by some lancers.
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>>741496242
He dies offscreen during the Gronder chapter and Hilda tells you she saw him die. That's it.
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>>741496242
He's left exhausted but still forces himself to keep fighting and Edelgard's army kills him, you don't talk to his ghost though unlike Silver Snow
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>>741496242
He gets a very fitting fate imo.
He just dies right after the Battle of Gronder Field. Keeps trying to chase Edelgard and he just gets overwhelmed by the army, all of this happens off screen and the general reaction from everyone is pic.
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>>741491178
>>741491386
I miss when Fire Emblem had white people.
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>>741496242
>Does Claude just randomly kill him?
sounds like something Claude would do
on BL route this faggot just randomly attacked his teacher simply because he refused to watch him and Dimitri settle a score with Edeltard
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It’s awesome that Byleth is the only thing keeping your Lord of choice from being completely retarded and going off the deep end.

I suspect Eshmel will play the same role
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>>741496213
sexo
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>>741475367
all very kissable except the queen and drakengard girl
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>>741496474
None of the lords so far look to be as retarded or mentally unstable as the 3H lords.
Except maybe Leda, but I don't know how she can get worse. Game said she already had her mindbreak moment 5 years before the game began and she's very open about her psychotic pursuit of revenge.
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>>741481837
Wada and some other chick made fe7-10 characters
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Sex with pinkies
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Autistic Dwagon
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>>741496570
>Impregnates her 17 times
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>>741496630
Wada only did character design on FE8. She did portraits on FE6-FE9 (like Kusakihara did on 3H and FW).
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>>741496146
Not nearly as popular as I can fix him boys. Menheras have their niche but they're far from mainstream. Dimitri isn't even obssesed with (You) like a yandere, he's all about his old sistercrush.

Also, Dimitri's rampage looks threatening because he's a 188cm buff man.
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>>741496630
>fire emblem only had dignity with women at the helm
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>>741496606
>sword hisoka
>lady dimitri
>edelgard but charisma
>chapter one Alm

>nOnE oF ThE LoRdS sO FaR LoOk to Be aS ReTaRded oR MeNtAllY uNsTabLE as thE 3h LoRDS
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>>741475367
>Leda
>Theodora
>Glasses
>Greenleth
>Pinkhair
>Massive Power Gap
>Cancer Marianne
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My disconnect with Verdant Wind and Claude as a whole is that it just sort of feels like it’s personally not interested in the broader narrative. I’m still not even really sure what exactly Claude’s motivations entirely are

Dimitri and Edelgard both had vast personal traumas that shaped them and they have clearly defined goals beyond “I want Fodlan to be nicer”.

With Claude there’s not really a shaping trauma, and the only really negative event in his life was minor racism about him being brown. He doesn’t really seem to have any reason for doing anything that he does beyond just wanting to do it.
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Marriage with Marianne!
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>>741497202
Cover those ears up and make her miss a few days of sleep and then we can talk
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>>741497010
tbf isn't the point of VW to deliberately ignore the smokescreen of that "broader narrative" and peel back the curtain of what's actually going on in the war while Dimitri and Edelgard are preoccupied with trying to hatefuck each other with steel blades?

Dimitri's route is literally just about Dimitri and Edelgard's route is a fanfic.
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>>741495656
50 eggs
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How would you guys react if the small coliseum maps we've seen so far are just a bait and switch and the maps are actually closer to the larger Genealogy style maps?
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>>741497010
the way I saw Claude was as him being a naive child who believes everyone shares the values and mindset of the people of fodlan, it turns out the people who he considers kin think he is a moron and just want to pillage fodlan.


3 houses and 3 hopes make claude look like a complete fool, who's only redeeming trait is luck.
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>>741497402
It wouldn’t really make sense for a Colosseum map to be that big


I do wonder how they will handle the massive maps if they ever do remake genealogy, though since I have to imagine, Zoomies would find the freedom discomfortin. You can often ignore the enemies for like 20 turns on some of those maps in order to arena grind and look for secrets.
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>>741497402
We've seen an outside map with Dietrich in the first trailer and it looked normal-sized (and really ugly)
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>>741497202
First place on my list of units that I recruit not because I want to use them, but because of the awful shit that will happen if I don't pick them up.
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Are stationary bosses bad game design?
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>>741497010
This is sort of the point. I'm not a fan of Claude as a character, but I do note that Claude is supposed to be disconnected. As the Neutral Route representative (to borrow SMT terms), he is not supposed to have the same emotional hangups that would prevent a rational hand in saving Fodlan. Unlike Edelgard and Dimitri, he didn't make Charisma his dump stat, he doesn't have the same time pressures or mental illnesses that would make him victim to the cycles of suffering that makes Fodlan the way it is. Not being stuck in his own head lets him view the world as is and lets him make the most "human" of geopolitical choices. But also he understands why radical solutions would be necessary, it is why even he says he would have just invaded Fodlan with Almayra should push comes to shove, Edelgard just beat him to the punch.
This is why Three Hopes made it a point in him needing to personally kill his brother to stop Almayra's invasion, this (combined with no Byleth) RADICALLY steers his decision-making to a more emotional, irrational level. Claude CAN go wrong, it just that Three Houses wasn't interested in making him another basketcase in a game filled with them.

All this said, yeah, it does just make him a really lame character. Even if he wasn't overshadowed by Little Miss Accelerationist and King "Oh Boy A Schizo Post", Claude lacks any real bite to him as a character.

>>741497402
Genealogy maps, even if they were fun, just ain't happening in 2026. You'd think modern game development would have the time to let anyone make maps that huge?
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How will Eshmel upHEEV the Wurld
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>>741497402
I don't think it's a bait and switch. I assume everyone is expecting the Coliseum to only really last for maybe the 1st act before the city gets carpet bombed, and the rest of the game is on those much bigger maps outside of that hub.
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>>741497536
Yes
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>>741497554
correction correction
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>>741497536
No
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>>741497554
He trips and accidentally pulls the lever that opens the Underworld portal.
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>>741497536
No, but bosses don't really make sense in Fire Emblem anyway. One enemy dude shouldn't be able to survive 10 of your own dudes ganging up on him. Dragons and other sorts of beasts can be an exception.
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God I hope she’s a massive bitch
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>>741497804
same
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>>741497804
>hunter class
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>>741497010
>My disconnect with Verdant Wind and Claude as a whole is that it just sort of feels like it’s personally not interested in the broader narrative. I’m still not even really sure what exactly Claude’s motivations entirely are
I had the complete opposite impression.
Edelgard's and Dimitri's stories are so damn tunnel-vision:ed that they kind of miss half the narrative. Or more than half of it even.
Verdant Wind and the Church route are like the only routes where most of the story is actually explained. Edelgard's and Dimitri's stories are more personal stories.
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>>741497912
I do hope it’s a reference honestly. Make her dislike small animals.
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>>741496750
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>>741497010
Claude went to Fodlan because he thought the Church was made up by racists to keep brown people out and he wanted to destroy it and let the brown people in.
But then it is revealed his Teacher is the literal God of that religion and Cyril called him a retard so he just gave up.
For the real world reason its because IS rushed KT and VW just ended up becoming a Silver Snow clone but for some reason they gave the final bosses that would make sense on SS to VW and vice versa.
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For FE girl hair colors, it's:
Green > Pink > Purple > White/Silver > Blonde > Blue > Red > Black > Multicolored (Elise doesn't count, she's basically just blonde)
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>>741497554
By upheaving her dress, duh!
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>>741497956
You care about lore and fighting mole people, they care about themes and complete character arcs.
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>>741497912
considering that Marianne has really high chance to be raped to death by crest beasts in her paralogue it makes way more sense to hate animals
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Guess country of origin for this white woman
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>>741498119
>Green
Dragon enjoyer spotted
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>>741498067
>IS rushed KT
Didn't 3H get delayed multiple times?
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>>741498193
They tried to shove crimson flower in at the last minute, which is why it’s shorter and has fewer cut scenes
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>>741498176
Dietrich's imouto
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>>741498176
Fodlan
She likes her older brother.
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>>741490626
Ive never cared about plot, its always either a series of conveniences or a mess, so i dont hold fire emblem to a high standard. There was something very charming and mysterious about the setting of valentia that doesnt quite get into loreslop, but presents a dying world abandoned by the gods, a nation of strength, frontier, and famine invading the land of decadent bounty to the point of apathy at their own peril. Alm knows the only way to repel the invaders is by running through them with a sword, but Celica sees the bigger picture that the continent is doomed to famine and terrors without the power of the gods. I always thought since my first playthrough that the argument scene really missed the point of Celica's journey since she made the argument all about the royal family and concealing her identity instead of pointing out the obvious to alm, that the land was becoming apocalyptic regardless of the war. Anyways the setting was gripping and I could go on for another 500 words but I wont.
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>>741498193
Engage was originally supposed to release first but they sat on it to make it an "anniversary game" and thus 3H had to come out sooner.
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>>741498067
why did people like Claude again? The dude came across like a retard.
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>>741498191
Green also has other cute girls like multiple peg knights, Rebecca, Nino, Midori, etc. but yes, it's mainly the dragons.
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>>741498290
Because he’s chill, mostly. His thing is supposed to be “nonchalant fool of owari on the surface”, but “cunning strategist” underneath. The problem is that we never really see him do any cunning strategies. In Crimson flower once his sponsored invasion of the continent by foreigners fails, he just blockades himself within a port to make a last stand.
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>>741498290
He's funny and the captain of the meme team.
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>>741498290
he was brown, so a lot of secondaries supported him just for that.
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>>741498119
For me it's white to pale-blue/lavender
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Claude’s voice actor is also like the only one who actually gives a shit about fire emblem and plays it himself so I guess that helps his popularity
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>>741498345
green has the best female teachers as well
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>>741498397
Yeah, honestly Claude's "schemes" only really do anything with Byleth at his side. Just like Edelgard only stops going full Darth Retardus with Byleth at her side.
Dimitri is the only lord who kind of does his own shit without Byleth, though he loses.
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>>741498290
I went with the Deers on my first run because Dimitri and Edelgard gave me psycho vibes.
Claude is more of a chill everyman.
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>>741498527
>Edelgard needs an advisor
>Claude needs a planner
>Rhea needs a savior
>Dimitri needs a tactician
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It's black, just like real life
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>>741498642
they all need a shoelacer
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>>741498563
until 3 hopes, that game can be taken two ways. One he is a moron who believes all brown people are fairies that just want to get along and give children/old people pixie dust. Two the writers hate him.
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>>741494606
They need a general audience like they had with awakening to succeed. FE fags arent going to carry this game, (and I shant be buying oh lawd dem weaves)
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>>741498153
She always survives that because it means she got recruited and didn't kill herself.
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She is somehow more Machiavellian than Claude btw
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>>741498191
even dragons come in different colors
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>>741498824
she would ask if machiavellian is a dish they serve.
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>>741498824
I like how claude does a 180 on religion in 3houses when its revealed his teacher is jesus and in part 2 he decides he doesn't have to kill rhea
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>>741498691
Yeah but a different kind. Edelgard needs someone who isn't a simp like Hubert to tell her how to be a good emperor. Byleth grounds her.
Dimitri doesn't need that, he needs the opposite. His vision is clouded by revenge, but he overcomes that himself. He just needs someone to help him gain victory against insurmountable odds.
Claude needs someone to make his ideas not just "dude what if communism just worked" stoner tier thoughts.
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>>741477734
>2019
>a decade
anon...
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>>741497912
Its a kino class, i hope they bring it back
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>>741498885
Correct, I particularly like Myrrh's purple, which is why I ranked Purple high. Same for my chicken daughter and Pink.
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>>741499016
>Edelgard needs someone who isn't a simp like Hubert to tell her how to be a good emperor. Byleth grounds her.

I think this is sort backwards. Edelgard knows what and emperor should do. It’s like her whole life. What Byleth gives her is grounding, yeah, but it’s emotional grounding. Darth Edel basically gives up on being a woman and a person in order to fully embrace her Iron Lady stuff. Byleth gives her someone to be vulnerable with, which is what she needs.

She doesn’t really require someone who will plan her taxation policies, she needs a friend.
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>>741499016
>Claude needs someone to make his ideas not just "dude what if communism just worked" stoner tier thoughts.
Fair. Honestly the deers have to be laid back because if anyone else listens to Claude talk too long they'd get a headache.
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Dietrich is so damn overrated
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>>741499250
I would have agreed until his bio came out. He loves his little sister. That makes him ultrabased.
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>>741499250
and Leda is ovulating
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>>741499145
it's nice the GBA dragons decided to stand out in their design. Myrrh my fav too
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Evil Claude would just be this but we never really get that
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>>741499168
and all claude needs is a brain who slaps him every time he thinks something retarded.

you could make a perpetual motion machine with just his retarded thoughts that way.
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>>741499368
Claude is like Kojima. He has good ideas mixed in with stupid ones. He needs someone to filter them for him.
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>>741498824
>>741498910
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so are we thinking part 2 is gonna be dragon lady opening up the "underworld" in the arena and unleashing the risen on dagsion? doesn't seem like there'll be much of a "human" war aspect, though theodora's wish for her country's independence could play into that
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What we need is female Hubert
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Why did they describe Claude as some 500IQ mastermind schemer who uses underhanded tactics in all of the marketing and the earlygame and then he never actually does anything like that.
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>>741499513
I hope they play a background role like the slitherers did, and the main conflict is about the lords clashing. Cai's father is the man Leda is hunting, Theodora is devoted to the being Deitrich wants to slay, etc.
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until we have confirmed angel avatar and S supports its not worth it
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>>741499250
Hard to say right now but he's definitely the kind of character who's either gonna be best lord or worst lord, there is no in between. Fightfags like him are very one dimensional but when the dimension is well exploited by a competent writer they can be very entertaining.
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>>741495190
But she should've looked like this
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>>741499521
You have her, that's Ursula.
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I will have implied digital sex with Ursula.
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>>741499538
He really should have done a red wedding style thing desu
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>>741499579
>Cai's father is the man Leda is hunting
I've seen this theory a lot. Seems like it would result in a lot of people hating Leda, since Cai's whole character is being a good boy.
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>>741499743
Cai will fix Leda and they'll team up to fight against the bad dwagons
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>>741499636
That's one terrible femitri
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>>741499743
If Cai’s dad is a Dirlewanger war criminal I don’t think people would blame her
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>>741499867
and that is when cai becomes Nemesis
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>>741499867
Yeah, but if she kills Cai for trying to protect his dad, that'd be fucked up. Which would totally happen if they want to send the message that being motivated by revenge is bad. Leda would have to kill a good person to get to the man she hates, and it would feel hollow as a result.
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>>741499743
>Seems like it would result in a lot of people hating Leda
Cai is not a good boy anymore if his father performed manslaughter of civilians, he's complicit and a war crime apologist.
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What about a merciless murderwife who then timidly asks you for headpats and if she did a good job
Oh and make them a wolf girl because fuck you we need more monster girls
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Cai is destined to free Foldan from stupid dragons.
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>>741500031
That's ridiculous. You don't blame a kid for what their parents do.
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I want to marry Dietrich's sister.
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>>741500057
Just play Fates again, nigga.
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>>741495739
yes? mario has a good design, making a bootleg mario is shit.
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>>741499976
The battle-hardened I've seen some shit thing just doesn't work for women.
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>>741500125
You do if they defend them and try to protect them from justice and consequences. For all we know his father could be in jail because he deserves it.
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>>741500057
>asks you for headpats
she needs to deserve those first
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>>741499976
i'd take female Dimitri over any of the lords in FW.
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>>741500149
Hello Dietrich
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>>741500220
The ex wife in this show is a fucking babe
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>>741500220
Well?
Does she?
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>>741500235
I actually do look like him
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>>741500214
It does work, you just don't believe women can suffer or have the same emotions you do so you don't buy it.
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Was FE red/blue any good?
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>>741500360
do not walk this path anon
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>>741500214
Bro your Metroid?
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>>741500214
Scars are hot on women. Imperfections on otherwise pretty girls are attractive
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If Dietrich really does have a S support with his sister, that'd be two games in a row with lords who bang their sisters.
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>>741498290
handsome and charismatic.
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>>741500380
sure. things didn't get really bad till FE X and Y
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>>741500214
>>741500370
It does thoughbeit
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>>741500454
Sounds based to me
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>>741500436
Kek
Hmm nah I actually look like Alfred if we're being serious
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>>741499618
unironically he's ruined if he gets any motive that isn't just fighting, which he'll definitely get.
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>>741500454
Who fucks their sister in engage?
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>>741500573
Alear. Though I guess if you make a distinction between Avatar and Lord, then it's not the same.
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>>741500571
I don’t know why some people seem to think his only motivation is fighting.

We know he’s hunting someone or something. He wants to “cull a beast” with Answerer. He may well also be a fight fag but part of that’s just a mask to hide his true purpose.
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>>741498290
He's not a retard, just a complete fraud. It's like watching LoGH but Yang Wenli never wins a single battle through wit yet people treat him like the second coming of Sun Tzu.
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>>741500639
>with Answerer
it is pretty funny that this is the name of his sword
Violence is always the answer
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>>741498824
That's why I ship them together tbdesu. Also marrying an Almyran prince is probably the best outcome for her family's money troubles that doesn't also cause her much trouble.
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>>741500057
>a merciless murderwife who then timidly asks you for headpats and if she did a good job
Too lewd. She and her headpat request were only in the gacha.
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>>741500078
Why would he want to get rid of this?
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>>741500454
Seliph would be proud
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>>741500802
Nemesis was right about dragons.
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>>741500802
If Sothis has a million fans, then I'm one of them.
If Sothis has one fan, then I'm THAT ONE.
If Sothis has no fans, that means I'm dead.
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Predicting that the first half of the game is in the colosseum mostly and the second half is outside + a timeskip.
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>>741500802
Because she’s a bitch once she gets her memories back
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>>741500639
Nah his likes and dislikes scream wildcard protag at you.
Beautiful things and fighting strong people? He's Hisoka without the clown getup. The hunting he talks about is just him looking for a worthy opponent to pass the time. He's like Casanova the second he slays it he'll lose interest and move on.
Every single shonen tournament has a character like this so it's fitting that Coliseum Tournament Emblem has a protag like this as an option.
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>>741500903
Probably, but I expect only Cai to get a timeskip redesign.
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>>741500956
>Because she’s a bitch once she gets her memories b-ACK
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741500903
I predit that Cai has blue hair
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If she gets 10 kills she gets a stamp and with 8 stamps thats a forehead smooch
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>>741500903
the second half will probably be similar to FE8 where you fight monsters and travel from city to city on the world map
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>>741500903
>first half
I don't believe it will be even that much. Colosseum is the tutorial area. Once you know your basics, the dead will rise.
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>>741501037
She'll kill me faster if she just smothered me with her boobs
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>>741501046
fuck off, freak
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>>741500791
But why inflict a racist upon a guy who suffered from it his entire childhood
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>>741501051
>wipes out the multiverse
How many smooches is that?
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>>741501184
1, she has to redeem the smooch before she can collect more stmaps, no banking them
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>>741501184
She's ugly
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>>741501176
>hey bro, you're brown
>suffered

I mean, I cry every time someone calls me brown.
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>>741501247
So if she just checks back in after every kills, she gets a smooch every eighty kills?
So if each world has 7,000,000,000 people in it, that's 87,500,000 smooches per world destroyed.
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>>741501176
She's not even racist against anyone who isn't white, it's literally just Duscurians. Meanwhile Hilda actually starts out racist towards Almyrans and her family keeps them as servants. We don't use the word "slavery" here.
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>>741500571
My guess is he's here to turn the divine Dragon Monarch into a Heroes relic to bring back home and fuel the fodlan war machine
Which would be giga-based
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>>741501363
fuck off
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>>741501184
>>741500796
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>>741501392
I want an Almyran servant girl
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>>741501392
>oh but she's not racist toward THOSE guys
Oh well then I guess it's okay... NO
>Meanwhile Hilda actually starts out racist towards Almyrans and her family keeps them as servants. We don't use the word "slavery" here
Hilda does nothing wrong, ever
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>>741501329
He also got it from the browns calling him white boy. Claude is a textbook example of a mixed race child feeling totally alienated because they're rejected by both cultures.
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>>741499513
Personally I feel like thats gonna happen really early on like chapter 5
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>when I'm in a "desperate for attention" competition and my opponent is using a tripcode on 4chan
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>>741501350
Anna sexo!
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>>741500998
I hope not
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>when I'm in a fortunes weave thread and I'm desperate to try and shove Shitveig into the conversation at all costs
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I bet Claude’s mom was hot
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atleast gullveig isnt a blacked dyke
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Brigand emblem
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>>741501587
The memes about you are absolutely true, lmao. What a loser.
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>>741501557
There've been a few good Annas from this lately.
I'd love a dancer Anna.
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He just couldn’t help himself could he
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>>741501468
>I want an Almyran servant girl
t. Dietrich
>>741501518
At no point does Ingrid treat Claude negatively poorly because of race or his origins. She really just hates them diggers. Other swarthoids are okay doe.
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>>741498965
I mean yeah man. Meeting Jesus would convince me God was real
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>>741501675
It's a prequel. Theo's lust for BWC is unmatched.
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>>741501662
It's even more ironic, because he's complaining about a Heroes character being brought up after bump limit, but he's the one forcing TMS shit earlier in the thread. Then literally just posted Persona.
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I don’t like how much less effort they used for the map this time. I miss the stylization
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>>741501738
Difference is I posted one picture and then an anon actually responded and started a conversation about it. Unlike when Shitveig is posted and is ignored every single time cause nobody wants to talk about that ugly bitch lmao
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>>741501350
Maybe there will be a bigger reward for more stamps, I dunno
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Raul gets cucked by tan dykes and brownoid men.
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Racism is bad but also all of fodlands neighbors invade it constantly so like
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>"I posted a picture of TMS completely unprompted, which is better than you bringing up the FE girl that asks for headpats in the discussion about headpats."
Scientists still debate if this is a new form of retardation, or just fetal alcohol syndrome.
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>>741501921
If it's Anna doing the system, she'd probably cheap out a bit somehow.
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Does she like hugs
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Post more gull next thread
I have no clue what her character actually is since I dont play gacha but I like her design, feels more like a fate character though
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How I sleep at night knowing Heroes will never be seen as a real FE game and will always be sideshow gacha trash
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>>741502030
>I posted a picture of TMS completely unprompted
No, I posted a picture of Shamir that happened to include a TMS and Engage girl, someone responded asking about the TMS girl and the conversation naturally snowballed into being about TMS.

Unlike you who has to force in Shitveig into every single conversation you can because you're absolutely desperate for someone to say "who is that" and you respond with your canned "uhh she's Kirans wife hehe"

>wow FW has time travel?
>"LOOK LOOK GULLY IS A TIME GODDESS"

>wow there's snake monsters in FE8?
>"LOOK LOOK GULLY IS A SNEK

>wow look at my res tank in this new file
>"LOOK LOOK SEIDR HAS HIGH RES LOOK AT HER ASS"

You're fucking pathetic
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>>741502225
She's a dork pretending to be a ruthless killer. She's basically Ivy pretending to be Tharja. She pretends to be a smug killer of worlds, but is just some goober that wants cuddles with her childhood friend (you).
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>>741502254
Same bro
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Leda having the crest of Dominic is interesting cause wasn’t Annete also really good at music? I recall her singing for Felix. Runs in the family
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>>741502169
Is she going to be the Catherine of this game aka least popular girl
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>>741502427
Catherine was super hot tho
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>>741502308
>dork
I fucking love dorks, I'm interested
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>>741501046
They wouldn't have this reaction to me.
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>>741502439
Shamir...
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>>741502439
All the girls in the game are attractive in some way
It doens't matter if she's "hot"
She needs to be cute... CUTE
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>>741502495
She gets lost all the time, but uses time travel to appear like she always arrived on time.
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>>741501704
Why? Jesus' existence as a person isn't disputed.
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>>741502595
yup thats a wife
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>>741502631
She forced Kiran to have a kid with her named Heidr.
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>>741500998
I feel like his two childhood friends (the glasses girl and the orange archer) would definitely get a redesign, too, if there's a timeskip.
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>>741502669
babymaking rape?
awkward babymaking rape?
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>>741502730
If glasses girl gets extremely hot like Annette timeskip, I'm stealing her away from Cai
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>>741502730
>punished Glasses Girl
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>>741502834
Annette is more pretty than hot
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>>741502820
Magic insemination because she does it to female kirans too
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Timeskip glasses girl is ultradork
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>>741502872
Whatever fits your bill
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>>741478026
One of those ones Crunchyroll makes and claims is Anime.
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>>741502895
That doesn't look good for her back.
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>>741502839
She would get more of a Hinata-style glowup with a big cup size boost
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>>741502839
>loses an eye
>glasses are replaced by a monocle
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>>741502984
Thats why shes holding them up
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fat chicken
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>>741502909
Not really, dark skin isnt a modern invention
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I demand cuter theodora art
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>>741503130
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>>741503216
I saved this slop someone made last thread.
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>>741503245
Thanks! I needed that!
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>>741503245
gesundheit



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