>tfw some village boy keeps telling you to "give peace and friendship a chance"
Why are Dagdans like this?
Anon, you can marry any woman you wish to but I had better not fucking see you bring a D*gdan wife to the Goddess's Rite of Rebirth festival.
>>741474176Third FE thread?
All the big girls are gonna /ss/ with Cai
>>741474176She looks better without the crown
>the average Fodlan man after learning about the women of Dagda across the sea
She looks stupid without her helmet horns
>>741474176She looks weak to hugs and being told that people care for her as a person, not just a queen.
https://tiermaker.com/create/fortunes-weave-character-tier-list-829686Post em
I feel like it would've been too easy to make a female lord be the "oh woe is me I can't deal with warfare if only we could see peace" kind of character so it's nice that the two female lords in 4W are both openly casual about killing people in different ways.
This game is ugly as fuck not even marketers memes can save it
>>7414751400/10 taste
>>741475143Edelgard is the closest we had gotten, but even she would would drone on about how she wishes that the war she started wasn't a necessity and how regrettable war is blah blah.Theo is based because she just fucking kills people, and battle is literally her hobby.
>>741474176Can't wait to watch this trash flop like every other shitch poo "game"
Rank them based on how much you want to kiss them
>>741475367im over anime foids except ninae
>>741475367I only like the girl with glasses.
>>741475282post em
>>741475140Here's everyones tier list if they're being honest.
>4 fire emblem threads
>>7414757524tune Weave
>>741475747i.e. normalfag taste
>>7414757525 actually
>>741475747Sex with desert Anna.
>>741475140
>>741475747So shitty I had to make my own
>>741475747>cock slurperOpinion invalidated
>>741476068shit taste
Reminder that mangs is a caifag
>>741475140shit taste>>741475747super shit taste>>741476067ok>>741476068confusing
>>741476131I didn't know mangs was based like that
>all these Ultand bads
>>741476197>UltandI'm going to assume he's the gay pirate and just say that you're gay
>>741476131Who cares about a dumb celeb
>>741476241nta but I'll learn you
>>741476241no it's the sex priest with the withering gaze
>>741475140Renamed peak because I'm old and crusty and the language the youth uses these days feels alien and scary to me.
>>741476197even that name is shit bro
>>741476131He aight
Cutesythea
>>741476363>>741476373Oh in her case I think her hair is ugly
>>741476197Her hair is dumb and she's likely getting shitted by Cai.
>>741474440Would Rhea give me her blessing to marry a fellow blonde of her choosing
>>741476483yes
>>741476457It is a curious hairdo
I still need to do ashen wolves, golden deer, and silver snow. Also never tried 3hopes
>>741476492Oh my!
>>741475367Who has the biggest bush?
>>741476553
Making the dragons hot isn't going to stop me from killing them.
>>741476583Rhea was in the rightBesides showing too much mercy
loli Rhea will show up in FW
>>741475140This needs the new blonde ponytail sword fighter
>>741475367That is...hmm...Assuming all love me equally?Ursula>Pink>Ninae>Glasses>Leda>TheodoraWow that wasn't how I thought it was going to be since I'm a Theo enjoyer but yeah the heart says what it wants
>>741476454Old and busted
>>741475367Both of the brown girls on top thats it
>>741476654Please fucking godSothis Mommy mogs her loli version but I feel like a loli Rhea would be epic
>>741475140list is missing the blonde woman we got today. Who looks like the blonde man in the list.
>>741476654After my angel cock has obliterated this bitch
Theodora if she was actually diverse.
>>741476986Make the lips bigger and you got a deal
>>741476986downgrade
>>741476849Holy fuck she's hot and I'm a hebefag
Rhea is a saint stuck in a slut's bodyA transslut, if you will
>>741476986You forgot to give the nose some big hippo-nostrils
>>741477073>
I think the transforming coliseum is a cool idea and I don't get why some anons are doomposting about it.
>>741477112>>741477073Old and busted
Oyakodon
>>741477234It would be divine
>>741477112Any true saint would consider it her divine duty to purge infidels
>>741474176she's too gray
>>741477279No but srsly Rhea did nothing wrongShe should've been styled herself as the absolute monarch of Fodlan tho and not suffered the feudal system I understand tho because all she cares about is mommy
>>741477279Is this slop or did someone actually try to draw like kubo
>>74147716119x19
>>741477161>backflipping upside-down 360 noscopekino
>>741476654FW is a sequel, so she wouldn't show up as a loli.
>>741476654How is that supposed to work when FW is a sequel?
>>741476986If you think this is better you are mentally ill with a porn rotted brain.
sequelcord
Compile the evidence for and against sequel/prequel >>741477423This has no correlation as I am mentally ill with a porn rotted brain and prefer Theo's OG design Honestly I'd prefer if she was pale instead but since it's Spain and she's meant to be moorish idm
>Rhea tolerates Brigid and Almyra but not DagdaWhat a shithole Dagda must be.
>>741477161I've never been alarmed about it. All FE maps have always just functionally been different sets of squares, no reason you can't achieve that in a colisseum. That being said, I expect at least one fight minimum where the colisseum is filled with water and two teams are on ships or i'll be sad
>>741477391>>741477161Just like engage neat
playing 3 houses again, which lord am I going with, is it edelgard or edelgard or maybe edelgard?
>>741477423Some times you just gotta accept you're just a dirty gooner :)
>>741476131Doesn't he need to virtue signal because he raped a girl or something?
>>741477541I'm thinking Black Eagles, route of Edelgard.
this new fire emblem is just oozing engage energy.
>>741477546You're dirty because you have no running water in your country.
>>741477568I just took a nice hot shower after getting back from vacation in japan, im good :) I just like porn
>>741477642>getting back from vacation in japan
>>741477567Honestly it's more like Fates. This is the first Fire Emblem in a decade that a) is not a remake, b) is not a self-referencing meta anniversary game, c) is made by IS. So it's like the last game that had all that - Fates.Dietrich looks like a Nohrian. Leda is Azura-coded.
I feel they try way too hard with the bright hair colors on the dark skin characters
>>741477713I was honestly thinking about taking a Pic like that one guy, you know the one, in a kimono but never got a chance. I was busy lookin at figs
>>741477707where are the men
>>741477756Just say you dont like dark skin and keep it pushing
>>741477756best taste so far
>>741477803More like most basic
>>741477795They look like what happens if you click random in a western game character creator
Oh my god, fuck Enbarr Infiltration on Maddening. I wanna lynch the fucker that OK'd this one.
Why would an archbishop brainwash a surrogate vessel for her mother to be an unabashed slut?
>>741477838your tastes are basic
>>741477478Leda's video already has a ship docked to an island. I think at least one ship battle is almost guaranteed.
Joining the Black Eagles!Then intentionally missing the stupid cunt's coronation and siding with Seteth!
>>741477793
>>741477849They look like anime characters
>>741477852She wouldnt, but she would fill her with futa dragon cum every night
>>741478026yeahnot very good anime characters
>>741477852being an innocent human enslaved by an evil dragon to breed her and her granddaughter... save me edelgard....
>>741477508Wasn't Claude the first one to do the upside down crit shoot?
>>741477642You like to watch too. I know your type. ":)"
>>741478157Ngl I have no clue I only played the blue lions route
>>741478190Watch porn yeah ;)
>>741478157Fates outlaws do that and finishing attack i think.
>>741478301Of your wife with other men.
>>741477852Dorothea in the background trying to drink the pain away instead of dealing with whatever this shit is.
>>741478323Im not married :3c but let's get back to talking about fe
>>741478381she deals with this shit all the time. This is like the third time this week Rhea's been brainwashing her into the perfect Nabatean breeding slut
>>741478765How can she be a slut if Rhea is pretty much the only nabathean left?
>>741477375If the entire game was limited to 19x19 sized maps, I'd be more concerned about their ability to squeeze out variety. But for only a limited portion of chapters? Less concerning.
>>741478936Manleth is around in Heroes.
>>741478995>If the entire game was limited to 19x19 sized maps, I'd be more concerned about their ability to squeeze out variety. But for only a limited portion of chapters? Less concerning.the problem with these defenses is that every gameplay decision has looked bad and only gets defended with wait and see responses
>>741478492Not surprising :D
I think this screenshot may have hidden clues about Theodora's activities in the tournament, but I haven't quite figured it out yet.
>>741479104>goes first>goes lastkeeeeeeeeeeek do alphies need that much hand holding?
>>741479009Rhea literally owes me milk
>>741478936She's programming her to be a breeding slut to make more nabateans, pay attention
>>741479104UNLEASH THE GREEK FIRE
>>741477756ftfy
>>741479216But byleth isnt a nabathean, so the only way to make more would be to breed with a nabathean, aka RheaAnd you cant be a slut for one person
Sorry Nabatean Chuds. Frog is Aghartan Owned.
>>741479396Based.
>>741479070On the contrary, it seems like they've made several subtle changes to how 3H's systems work which I like. Classes have greater restrictions on what weapons they can use (and this includes battalions), there are indications of a greater range of status conditions and potentially buffs/debuffs, what we've seen of the hub makes it look more compact, and having your "free time" sections be limited by a turn timer should allow for more strategic planning in that mode (especially when paired with the overworld map). More controversially, I'm looking forward to the return of dungeons, but I can recognise that's just the dungeon crawler autist in me.I feel like this is more an issue if you consider 3H's various customization and life-sim-esque systems to just be rotten to the core or not. I'm more inclined to think it was about the execution of the game's ideas, and the changes I've noticed do tackle bad aspects of those systems, at least so far.
Hunter is a funny class. This is the first time it's shown up since New Mystery, and the first time it will show up in a new setting since Jugdral.
>>741479070>the problem with these defenses is that every gameplay decision has looked badYou don't like weapon restrictions coming back? Or the Monastery getting removed?
>>741475140Don't forget our female memedon
>>741479989Ponytail like Jade?
>>741479989Alucard's sister?
Give me Shamir grandma
>>741480183Fuck off
Hot take: Engage's story isn't that bad. It's mostly just Alear and the cringey dialogue.
>>741480183Whomstve is the green bitch? I assume the other's are Shamir and Nel?
>>741480558Kiria from Tokyo Mirage Sessions
>>741480587I see. Found it boring and didn't finish. I fapped to Eleonora or whatever the Virion girl's name was
>>741480519Actual hot take here the dialogue isnt cringe at all
>>741480519You're right, it's not that bad. It's fucking terrible.
>>741480618I liked TMS a ton
>>741480675Why do you have a whole ass Wii U?
>>741480713Because I didn't have one when the game came out so I bought the deluxe edition and played it in Japanese
>>741480675Is Reincarnation that song that goes "KOWASHITAI!"
>>741480669>It's fucking terribleNah thats fates, engages story is just there it really isnt that bad at all I dont see why people act like it raped their mom
>>741480761I see. Are you an SMT fan?
>>741480762https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBQbXBdrvMYep>>741480819Nah, I've not played the SMT games, I bought TMS because I was an FE fan and got hooked. If other games play similar to TMS I'd definitely play them
Fun fact: Only whites, asians and Hispanic people should be allowed to learn Asian languages like Japanese or Korean
>>741476068Why Not!Seteth so low?
>>741480851TMS is closer to Persona tbhdesu
>>741480959I dont like the color scheme
>>741480938Fun fact: knowing Spanish actually helps in learning Japanese, at least it did for me>>741480980I might play P5 soon
>>741476147Red cav higher than Green cav? Red's hair looks a little off to me, maybe that's just nitpicking.
>>7414810321. How does Spanish help?2. Any reason why you learned Japanese?3. Any tips? I've been going for 8 years with about 1-2 hours of studying everyday and I'm barely N4.
>>741481147Anki + Immersion helped me.
>>741481147>How does Spanish helpI don't know how true it is exactly but it's just in the way certain sounds are made, like the r in Japanese is a lot easier to do if you already know how to do Spanish r's. Plus Spanish is a fairly dense and fast language so if you can listen to Spanish well it makes listening to Japanese a bit easier since you're used to fast dense sentences.>Any reasonJust wanted to>Any tipsI can't help, I'm not anywhere near fluent, you probably know more than me. I haven't kept up with my studying in ages. Though common advice I see is just total immersion into the language. Watch anime without subs, play JP vidya, listen to JP music, etc
Orson was Seth's green cav. Green cavs can't be trusted.
Shamirs scizors with Catherine every night
Am I tripping or do the graphics of this game look kinda bad? Seems like there is no ambient occlusion use.
>>741481280Orson did nothing wrong
>>741481306This is a bad thing why?
Sharmir fucks only females.
>>741481306Before or after Catherine does the same with Rhea?
>>741481341after
>>741481221>>741481215How do I get into immersion if I'm constantly pausing to learn every word I see and get bored because I understand very little story?
>>741481306
>>741481396I played TMS, a JRPG, in Japanese despite not being able to read like 99% of it. Play a game that has furigana to make it easier to read the kanji if you have to. I think some of the newer Pokémon games have that
>>741480806TORtanic culture has created a certain group of people on this board who don't care about anything other than looking for the newest "flop" to poke fun at and pick on, and so they constantly force narratives about whatever the newest [thing] is being the WORST THING EVER that totally KILLED the franchise and the company that made it. Honestly just makes some of the hate towards Engage feel so forced and disingenuous. These faggots are a blight on any genuine discussion on /v/ they try to weasel themselves into.
>>741481464Yes. Every Pokémon game since Legends Arceus has it.
>>741475367>>7414741763H was the worst thing to happen to this series, brought in normgroids in mass and this fucking artstyle FUCKING SUCKS. How did we get the art in echoes, a side game, but this is the best we can do for a mainline entry? Fuck this series man, also not buying a switch 2 for this shit
>>741481534Its not even just on here though like people will shit on engage for literally anything, had a guy tell me the ost was corny, like what does that even mean.
>>741479549https://files.catbox.moe/jc3nq3.jpg
engage is fucking shit.
Is it actually worth spending 600 on a switch 2 and 120 on FE: three houses just because I vaguely want to also play the new fromsoft game?
>>741475140Why are women allowed to design characters? The only good one I've ever seen is Bayonetta.
I am never buying a switch2 unless the new pokemon comes out and /v/ says it's the best ever I just can't afford to be an idort anymore
>>741481837Women are the horniest.Like even when design women they can't help it.
>>741481765Can't be worse than fo'tunes we'ayyve.
>>741481710Female Shez is just so much betterI like Femleth too
>>741481976https://files.catbox.moe/99ru3k.jpg
>>741482035I'm literally Dimitri
I hope Eshmel actually has a voice and personality.
>>741482035>still smaller than the frogTo be Shez, is suffering.
To the anon who made the Sacred Stones Lunatic mod, how the fuck do I make Chapter 6 (the fog one with the spiders) easier? It's just a pure RNG fest
>>741477469Who's pushing this BS narrative? Rhea literally hired a Dagdan to be a de facto knight of Seiros.
>>741482035THANK you Doc!
Eating Lunchables with Shez
>>741482275I'm assuming you're struggling to save the green villagers? Depends on whether Franz or Vanessa got good levels or not. If you got screwed, then Seth should be able to rush the boss still if you're really having problems with it. This is probably the first real escalation you'll experience for sure though.
>>741482489Other general tips I can give is that chapter 5 should have given you a torch and there was an antitoxin available back in chapter 3. I'm not sure how much problems poison is really giving you though. Let me know any real specific problems none of this really helps you with. If it's a specific enemy, please screenshot them.
>>741481451kek
>>741474176Yo can somebody get this ashy bitch some coco butter? Call the weird pube-haired kid from Liberia, I'm sure he's got some.
>>741482489Moreso that I'm struggling to survive. I barely used Seth but he's essentially required here. My other units get 2-3 shotted.
Do we know why Dagda invaded Adrestia?
>>741482995Because it's there
>>741482995There's some hidden lore in the library about this. Adrestia was rumored to have a golden fruit which was mixed with drink flavor mix, a favorite in the dagdan slums.
>>741474176Is this game a prequel or sequel to 3H? Trying to figure out if I should play 3H before this.
>>741483143They're just in the same universe, you don't have to play 3H to play FW
>>741483143Probably a prequel, but we don't know. I would recommend playing three houses first anyway because this one will likely fix a lot of its flaws with the gameplay, so playing them backwards might be a bad time
>>741483143More likely to be a sequel, but I'd still recommend playing 3H anyways regardless of if its a prequel or sequel.
>>741483143Don't listen to anyone. It's probably neither a sequel or prequel.
>>741483202>>741483298>>741483370
>>741483143It's a prequel and a sequel, there's time travel shit in FW
>>741483492It's prequel and further prequel
>>741482658There was a Torch?
>>741483476We literally do not know one way or the other yet and that seems to be by design to drum up lorefagging. But try out 3H if you have the time before FW anyway. It can be pretty fun.
I was wondering if the game was already out wwwwI like how different the four pickable player characters look, it's pretty awesome. I like how sexy the girls are too. Legitimately interesting hook.
>>741482927What's your main group right now in general? How exactly have your attempts been going up until this point specifically? Are the horseslayer weapons causing you problems here?
>>741483492Byleth jumps through time to be in another game
>>741483589Top house of chapter 5 with Amelia. There was also a Pure Water in chapter 2 in the south village.
>>741483623Blatant shill post, do better nigga
>>741474176She looks so weird. Like she isn't just a black character (Which in itself is fine), but the like legit ash-grey skin just looks weird.
>>741483623Ursula put your clothes back on. You're embarrassing me.
>>741483476
Camilla in FE Warriors is sexy as per usual, but there's something kinda uncanny about how her tits don't jiggle or really respond to any kind of movement at all. It kinda makes it seem like they are Barbie doll-tier hard sculpts, locked in place forever.
>>741484145until you use her special attackThey jiggle plenty
>>741484198I can't see
>>741484043>AnnaPick a better girl.
>>741483645Eirika, Seth, Lute, Colm, Franz, Vanessa, Artur, Joshua, Moulder and Ross.The only horseslayer I ran into was a Fighter with a Halberd, which Seth easily dodged and killed. It's the reinforcements and the top cavaliers that are killing me.
>>741484145
>>741483693I did get those, just didn't realize
>>741484357So if you can kill the Fighter before he attacks you with that Halberd, he'll drop it instead. This gives you an opportunity to use it against the cavs up north and that show up at your spawn point. Eirika should also be pretty good against the lower level cavs here because of her Rapier and natural high speed. Things to be wary of is there's another horseslaying weapon from a knight in the eastern part of the map, the Thunder tome mage, and an archer near that Helberd fighter. Vanessa and Seth should be good against the mages here along with whoever is holding the Pure Water.I can see why you're having trouble though, this chapter has fog, poison weapons, steel weapons, ranged weapons, and a good enemy mix to take into account, along with reinforcements that jump you.
>>741484278>>741484389Blindest man on the planet
>>741475140good taste honestly, except for NinaEh>>741475747>sothis in great>gun nun in shit>cai schizoism HAHAHAHAHA how about no. Good "best" line up though.
Is Cai named after quails, or cailles in french?
>>741485168He’s named after a nigger rapper o algo
>>741485002You have the most garbage taste I’ve ever seen especially putting the best Anna in trash
>>741482995It was retaliation for when Adrestia invaded Dagda, but that itself was retaliation for a previous Dagdan invasion (there have been 3 wars between Dagda and Adrestia in total). So really we don't know what the fuck their problem is.
>>741485168It's Kai but treehouse thought it looked too japanese with a K
I wonder if I should be worried about people being able to get the Light Brand in chapter 19.
>>741485238>You have the most garbage taste I’ve ever seen Honestly sounds like a compliment coming from an Annafag. I'd put any Anna in trash it's not personal. I do like her design but she's still an Anna so >>>/trash/
>>741485495the dude that Leda tries to kill might actually be his father after all
>>741485495Why would ISis throw a japanese name into a western themes Fire Emblem though, it has to be a western word.
>>741484603Despite using Vanessa as much as possible, she can barely do more than chip damage
>>741485736>western themes Fire EmblemYou're saying that as if previous Fire Emblem games weren't western themed>it has to be a western wordNo, you just really want to find some meaning where there isn't any.
>>741485736he is German
>>741485740And she dies in 1-2 hits and most enemies have like 60% hit
>>741485791No I said that because I didn't want anyone to come at me with a stupid counterargument like "b-but HOSHIDO" but apparently I have attracted another type of pointless drivel
>>741485740>>741485873Avoid having her fight the cavs, knights, or fighters if you can. The first two are naturally too bulky and the last has weapon traingle advantage. She should mainly be taking on soldiers or mages this chapter only. Unfortunately, because she's a flying unit she can't really use terrain to her advantage here like all your other units.
>>741487056I managed to get through, though no matter what, couldn't save all the civilians. I don't recall the reward being particularly good unless you've changed it. Ross promoted into Pirate, Lute got a perfect level up, Seth, Franz and Moulder got single point level ups.
>>741476580Theodora obviously
>>741487341A white tuft of fluffcrotch mofu, if you will
>>741475367Ninae > glasses > marriage gap > Alexandra > Leda > Ursula > Theodora
My wife
>>741481567Finally someone says it. How in the actual FUCK did we get another game with this horrendous artist. Literal dogshit Soejima wannabe.
>>741481567Engage on the other hand was the best thing to ever happen to this series. It set the bar so low that anything FW does is going to be viewed as a massive improvement.
>>741489297>How in the actual FUCK did we get another game with this horrendous artist.That's what gaming companies do more and mor. An entry was sucessful? Repeat everything about it. Do NOT analyze the reasons for it's sucess, just copy it's systems, art style, soundtrack, lore, and launch a new entry. Milk that first sucessful game dry with 3-5 games in that setting copying everything about it, until people cannot stand the sight of it anymore.
Fuck off back to your containment board.>>>/vg/
>>741481765I actually enjoyed it but can’t fucking stand engaygies trying to defend it. Non-existant story and omega cringe character designs that almost killed the series themselves.
I wish it was Monday, need updates.
>>741490186Waiting for my wife glasses-chan
>>741489297anime scares off the normies
So we've moved on from characters like Edelgard and Camus being Char Aznable clones, to having Scirocco clones?This guy is already ruined by his uncanny resemblance and having the same name as Scirocco.
>>741490257But FW is anime as hell.
>>741490103Same, I love Engage, replayed it multiple times, but Engaygies are mentally ill.
>>741479626>Classes have greater restrictions on what weapons they can use (and this includes battalions)Here's something I do want to know, how restricted classes actually are at the end of the day? Yeah, seems like wyvern riders can't use bows anymore, but I feel like this discussion is so shallow when it really was more the strong Combat Arts like Point-Blank Volley that meshed well with the stat balls they tend to be. When even mages come packing with swords and axes and cavalry classes are all Great Knights from the get go, do you call this "restricted"?The Battalion restriction is at least more notable given how they give major stat buffs and infantry need them more than cavalry, but that seems more a result of not seeing the full list of classes and battalions.
>>741477478The video you're replying to is literally that
>>741490338>giggle physics in the 2d portraitSOVL
>>741481567Echoes flopped, that's why.
I'm actually confused about the Engage story argument because Shadows of Valentia had a near non-existent story and exceedingly boring characters too but the "muh story"fags circlejerked the hell out of the game. Hell, I'm confused how Alm was praised for not being an Avatar, he had LESS PERSONALITY than an Avatar. Literally the only Avatar I'd consider worse than Alm is Corrin and BEING BETTER THAN CORRIN IS NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT.
>>741490626>but the "muh story"fags circlejerked the hell out of the gameDid they?I remember most people not talking about the game, or if they did, it was just about how shit the maps are or how nice the art/voice acting was.
>>741490543>giggle physicsheh
>>741490626The only thing I remember the story of echoes inspiring was a mountain of Celica ntr porn.
>>741490626>because Shadows of Valentia had a near non-existent story and exceedingly boring characters tooPresentation matters. I like Shadows of Valentia's characters more than Engage's characters on that alone.> I'm confused how Alm was praised for not being an Avatar, he had LESS PERSONALITY than an Avatar.I preffer a generic character with his own story than a blank slate but I can't really decide major things like I can in a CRPG. Avatars are the worst thing to happen to FE.
>>741490804That's pretty accurate. >the portraits are pretty>fixed character automatically good avatar automatically bad
>>741481567Echoes has a cast of like 30 playables and 10 villains, including Randy Random the Bandit King. When you are Hidari and is such a high-valued name in game art design, and this is a franchise KNOWN for burning out their top talent like Wada Sachiko and Senri Kita and Yosuke Kozaki, this is pretty much the only game you actually want to do and nothing fucking else. This is pretty much free money compared to literally any other FE game.>>741490626>>741490672There was a very early subset of people that praised the storytelling of Echoes when they really meant the presentation. A lot of them were and likely still are hardcore Berkut fans and/or coming straight out of Fates: Conquest. This was before the Misogyny complaints and Sacred Echoes popped up, the latter being notable for """pointing out""" and """criticizing""" the storytelling of Echoes.Which, yeah, Echoes is really badly written. And genuinely insulting to Gaiden's fairly straightforward and decently told plot for a Famicom game. Just that I know a lot of them are still the same dickriders for the story.
>>741490626>he considers Byleth better than Corrin because he has more fuckable options for him to self insert intoByleth is absolutely awful as an Avatar, the only reason anyone cares about them is because they want to fuck their students, or they want to fuck the frog. Corrin at least has a personality. Alear's generic good guy personality is at least something but I'd also rate them worse as an avatar. Guess that isn't to far from your typical main lord before avatars though. Still I prefer avatars who make me feel something for them and don't solely exist to self insert into. I don't expect this angel to be any better either.Robin>Shez>Corrin>Alear>Byleth
>>741479549Shez is shit
The lines between lord and avatar as been blurred for sometimes now. The only avatar that felt like avatars are Chris and Robin. Every other ones have just been Lords with an avatar label.
>>741474440>>741476483>>741476553>>741476583>>741476625>>741477073>>741477112>>741477234Made and meant to be bred by male Byleth
I'm glad that at least something from Echoes (other than the turnwheel) gets to live on from that game with the dungeon exploration coming back, hope that they retune it in FW and make it more fun.10/10 in all aspects of the presentation. Animations, Art, VAs, Music, etc. But everything else about it was rancid dogshit and it's my personal least favorite FE.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZHcVMqXGhQ&list=RDtZHcVMqXGhQ&start_radio=1
>>741477279Bredable women for byleth>>741482035Shez is worthless
>>741491241I liked Invoke
>>741491178Not just bred, turning into a baby factoryPerpetual pregnancyShe WILL develop an addiction to giving birth
>>741491178Truvth, she was made for restoring the Nabatean race with her son/grandson/mother/brother MC.
>>741491241This track is so fucking good, I forgot how much I loved it
>>741474176Black skin on a Japanese frame always looks ridiculous. They just draw an anime character and use the Fill tool.
>>741491241I still see people online talk about how good God Shattering Star is, but I don't know how Echoes' Twilight of the Gods isn't always up there in the conversation. Easily the best FE track imo.
>>741491363This, she needs to become the new progenitor mother of all nabateans and propagate as much as Sothis did when she made the race the first time.Except Rhea will do it the natural way instead of using her blood and alien dragon magic like Sothis did.
I will never get over the artist downgrade. They owe EVERYTHING to Kozaki and they replaced him with garbage.
>>741491241>"The seasons they turn, memory fades, but when my name has been lost to the grave.">"I will sustain you year after year, I will protect you when dangers appear.">"And though I am gone, just ash in the wind">"One life surrendered so yours can begin~"I'm so pissed that Echoes sucks, it's such a beautiful game.
>>741479549For me it's M!Byleth and F!Shez. :D
>>741490626>I'm actually confused about the Engage story argument because Shadows of Valentia had a near non-existent story and exceedingly boring characters too but the "muh story"fags circlejerked the hell out of the game. Hell, I'm confused how Alm was praised for not being an Avatar, he had LESS PERSONALITY than an Avatar. Literally the only Avatar I'd consider worse than Alm is Corrin and BEING BETTER THAN CORRIN IS NOT AN ACHIEVEMENT.Also Echoes portrayed its villains in the most black/white way the franchise has ever seen. Like every enemy Alm faces against is so a ridiculously evil or a blue skinned boogieman who sold their soul to the devil. >"HAHAHA IM A NOBLE! I WAS BORN BETTER! A PEASANTS PLACE IS ON THE END OF MY LANCE! HAHAHAHA!"It unironically makes the incredibly thinly veiled villains like Validar or Garon seem reserved by comparison, and it makes the case of Celica "balancing" Alm out with compassion a total joke because its such a Black/White story that Alm's literally in the right to fight every battle he does.
The Location:Dagsion really makes me think they'll pull a Metaphor and have hubs in different cities you move around at some point.
>>741491515>Easily the best FE track imoClose but that's Conversation 1
>>741491950Nah, that's a waste of resources. By Dagsion I think it refers to the town part and the other locations are going to be inside the arena and other buildings.
>>741491785>"HAHAHA IM A NOBLE! I WAS BORN BETTER! A PEASANTS PLACE IS ON THE END OF MY LANCE! HAHAHAHA!"You faggots loved it when the Tellius games did it.
>>741490852>This was before the Misogyny complaintswhat
>>741491785Valentia is a sufficiently believable world, it’s not surprising that shitty nobles act like shitty nobles. It doesn’t matter that the writing is simple, the characters behave naturally enough not to break the player's immersion. Engage/Fatesfags don't really care about that. (I'm not saying SoV's story is perfect, far from it)
>>741491746Objectively correct choices.
>>741481567Wasn't the guy for Echoes really expensive and gaming wise locked into GUST contracts all the time? That'd be an explanation.
>>741477338>No but srsly Rhea did nothing wrongShe trusted Edelgard.
>>741492181Modern Echoes' writing complaints are focused heavily on the perceived misogyny of the game. From how every character you save is a woman either captured, mind-controlled, or both; to how Celica is far more flawed a person than Alm but also always need saving by a man (either Alm or Conroy), to Rinea not even pretending to be a character and just Berkut's sidepiece, they complain how the game is misogynistic. The game can't just be badly written, it has to be a direct attack against women.There is a lot of points in their favor, especially with how compared to Gaiden Echoes is somehow ruder to its female cast (they even have to give begrudging praise to Kaga, who they call 'weird' all the time -- weird being weasel word for evil and a sexual predator in waiting). But the misogyny complaint is incredibly loaded and accusatory, likely a carryover from 3Hfags/anti-3Hfags who only view "media" as indictments of one's character. The "All Art is Political" """people""".
>>741491785>>741490626Literally what is the issue with the evil noble character archetype? Are stories only deep, realistic, and good if not a single noble in it acts like they have more rights and more money than a fucking peasant (which was more often than not considered property of the lord along with the land by the way)? What a joke. Open a history book or look at how men behave in any situation where they can kill their fellow man with no repercussion. I liked the echoes nobles too, there was a wide spectrum of values among them and the commoners were probably the most class conscious in all of FE.
>>741492547The usual retards.They wouldn't survive Tearring and Berwick Saga.
>>741491950My guess right now is>Act 1 is the tournament arc>Hell opens up in the coliseum>Entire hub town gets swallowed up and becomes inaccessible, most of the units you didn't recruit end up trapped and dying there>Your army has to flee to some far edge of Dagda>Act 2 is traveling all over the Dagdan map to do various things and find the macguffin that'll close hell>"Hub" is now just a camp like 3Hopes did>Hub might have a different floor and background texture depending on your location, but the layout stays the same>Coliseum is now the final fight location
>>741492201Wtf ciphers have original characters? Is the card game even that popular in japan?
>>741481312>Seems like there is no ambient occlusion useIdk why I'm responding to this hours-old comment. I guess it just triggered my autism a little. Ambient occlusion essentially means "modeling of shadow." It's the brightness/darkness gradient as light hits each successive area of a form slightly more intensely.So yeah, this game has that. It would look very strange and flat if it had absolutely none. It's not incredibly realistic with it, but it is there. Pic related.Whether the game looks bad or not is more of a subjective question.
>>741492840Ciphers had 4 characters you could unlock in SoV as DLC. The card game is dead tho
>>741492547>The "All Art is Political" """people"""You should have started with that sentence you could have spared me from reading that schizo culture war logorrhea
reminder
>>741492928That's why I skim a post before reading it, red flags like that usually jump out and indicate the rest isn't worth reading.
>>741492706The problem comes down to, and lemme wear my /leftypol/-cap here, is that the game doesn't actually criticize monarchy as a system. It doesn't have anything to say as to WHY these nobles are evil, they just ARE. And that would be fine, were it not the big twist of the game is that Alm is actually a Super Secret Super Noble That is Pure & Good and Will Save the Country from the Actually Evil Demon Religion and THIS TIME monarchy will work. And don't worry, the Emperor that actually put all the nobles in charge is actually on Alm's side and wanted his own son to kill all the super evil nobles and them himself instead of...not putting them in a place of power they could abuse the populace in the first place. It is incredibly tone-deaf, far more than the usual kingmaker idea Fire Emblem runs with. Gaiden definitely doesn't give much to work with, but Echoes doubling down on everything for...some reason, on top of Alm just being a blatant Gary Stu and NOT Celica's equal in any way, makes the game's writing and commentary on nobility come across as insanely hollow. When you consider they are selling backstory DLC for Berkut and Ferdinand to "explain how they become classist caricatures", is there any reason to actually defend Echoes on this point?>>741492928Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.>>741492901While SoV had the first 4 OCs as DLC, Cipher actually had 8 different OCs by the end.>Emma>Randal>Shade>Yuzu>Alice>Valjean>Nimah>Poe
>>741490186the update is tomorrow night so not much longer
I'm as glad as the next guy to see that the school setting is gone, but one thing I will miss about it is that with the new setting is that I doubt we're going to get any of those more impactful 2nd Act conflicts between units that used to be friends. Not that all of them were emotional sledgehammers, but some of those pre-battle comments were pretty sad and there's a couple I straight up refused to do like making Annette and Mercedes fight each other.Great theme song for making students kill each other btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6oZ2pGSRyQ&list=RDs6oZ2pGSRyQ&start_radio=1
>>741493297I'm not trying to doom here, but there's no way this game is going to be as popular and grab as many new players as 3H. The combination of pretty boys and cute girls in an aristocratic school setting is unbeatable. To this days there're artists on twitter than don't draw anything other than self-insert art with Dimitri.
>>741490186>>741493283Now that we're past the lords, hopefully the updates will be more significant, showing stuff we genuinely haven't seen. The lord portrait teaser half of the update felt somewhat redundant. Maybe we get some new names and HD portraits now.
>>741493182>the game doesn't actually criticize monarchy as a system. It doesn't have anything to say as to WHY these nobles are evil, they just AREI thought it was tied to the dragons' influence. Each dragon corrupts people in a different way: Mila's gentle nature leads Zofia to become lazy and indulgent through abundance while Duma's harsh nature makes Rigel aggressive and emotionally hardened through struggle. The point isn't really about monarchy being evil but about people taking control of their own destiny instead of relying on dragons.Then they failed to make a good story with that idea...
>>741491746Smelly and partially retarded mercs were made for one thing.
>>741493297I wanna FUCK Annette!
You recon they'll pull a Xenoblade 3 and push the game release a little bit back or maybe make it sooner? I really don't like the current slot it has, especially at that price. Even if I'm hyped.
>>741493726We learned a lot of new stuff though>cai has two crests>chickens can bypass obstacles>cat mask girl is playable>mysterious blonde was is a ponytail myrm>two units that we haven't seen before>4 new enemy factions>the name of the teams>dietrich is a siscon>game has mechs
>>741490626SoV and Kaga games more generally mastered aesthetic storytelling - the sublime. There's a sense of grandness & myth underlying. It's strongly suggestive instead of explicit.People call this "presentation" I think, but that name belies what it's really about. It's about mythmaking and imagination, and is what is missing in more grounded games like 3H - the willingness to be a little mysterious and epic. It's why I never bought the notion of it being Genealogy's successor, it just totally gets the intuitive-feeling aspect wrong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJgyKXb9DeA
>>741493972August made sense. There's no Nintendo game releasing in August. The fact that Omimusha moved forward is a sign that a lot of devs are freaking the hell out that so many games moved to September.
>>741493724I don't think it's doomposting to say that, 3H was truly one of those lighting in a bottle situations that grabbed normalfags by the balls.Something that people need to get an understanding on is that 3H is a massive outlier in more ways than one for FE and that FE is not a franchise where line is always going to go up. It's also a franchise where it doesn't need to keep going up to live.FW will sell millions, /v/ will shitpost about how it didn't sell as many millions as 3H and FE is doomed. But you can bet your ass those millions it does sell is more than enough for IS to keep making FE games until the heat death of the earth.
>>741493972I haven't seen something like that happening ever since
>>741493972>>741494163August would be great, but given the $80 price tag they trying to sell at, Nintendo/IntSys are obnoxiously confident in this game's success. Monolithsoft always been super reasonable with their games at the end of the day. I highly doubt they would move it up from the September-October Death Zone.
>>741493182I wasn't the one who asked...>>741493182Did you really expect devs passionate about western medieval fantasy and living in a monarchy to make a critic of monarchy and how systemically it breeds evil nobles? I mean, you only need play a few years within japanese media to understand that within the japanese psyche (and not just them really) there is a temptation, or even a desire to be ruled by a benevolent, legitimate authoritarian. Call it emperor nostalgia or whatever but for me many of these games and this kind of storyline answer that need. Not that I'm too fond of it as a french leftist myself but the games are clearly not there to criticize or reform absolute monarchy and nobility as systems but to indulge in them. That's very different. Although it should be noted that Tellius exists and does a lot more than indulge, which is why it's probably the best FE on that front. Regardless, Evil Noble Lives Matter, I love them. Hopefully FW has good ones.
>>741492103No, I hate Tellius too.
>>741493975I want to see the characters and mechanics of this game already, not all this cocktease. We only know the names of 4(?) side characters, and nothing else about them. That's silly.
>>741493972Is there anything in that release window that overlaps with what a FEfag would be interested in tho?Only thing I can think of is maybe that Star Wars XCOM game. And for me personally, the only reason I give a slight shit about that game is because of the genre, not enough to sway me from buying FW and playing it day 1.
>>741492547Yes, women need to be saved and led by men. In that regard, Echoes is 100% correct.
>>741491678I like kozaki but toilet bowl armor...
>>741494462The thing is why did they TRY to pretend they had something to say about monarchy? The nobility theme wasn't a part of Gaiden's writing. Ferdinand and Berkut and the like did not exist in Gaiden. Echoes didn't need to have this really blatant commentary it had to fumble over itself because of it being attached to a game that is very much an Arthurian Legend like the other FE games.The noblesvs. commoners theme is completely idiotic in a game where ONLY NOBILITY CAN SAVE THE WORLD. >>741494735Fairness, he wasn't the one that designed that armor, IIRC.
>>741490852>>741492547>>741494681Echoes was too based for reddit and twitter
These might be the ugliest character designs in any FE. Why the fuck are they grey?
>>741494838>The noblesvs. commoners theme is completely idiotic in a game where ONLY NOBILITY CAN SAVE THE WORLD.This also derails Edelgard's point on crest reliance and merit - given how powerful Relic weapons are in universe (not in gameplay), it's any meritocratic system that ignores that nobility has a clear edge in being able to use monstruously powerful weapons that turns non crest-bearers into monsters, and thus are inately inferior, is missing a significant part of the equation.Seems to be a common theme in modern IS.
>>741494998The grey chick is cute. I'm racist and my only concern is the maps and game systems being shit. Brown women are cute.
>>741475140genuinely just massive amounts of garbage
>>741493724I still find it hilarious how /v/ talked about for years how a FemDimitri would sell bajillions and IS actually made that a character.
>>741494838Ferdinand and Berkut are more drama vehicles than commentary on monarchy really. I don't remember echoes very well admittedly but for me they exist because the devs tried to create consequences for the most outlandish plot beats of Echoes to increase the weight of the narrative. Notably making a farmhand the leader of your army and hiding your heir from the public eye. Fernand and Berkut are the direct victims of these decisions and I think it works very well.
>>741494998Japs don't mind the grey skin, they don't see any blacks irl so it's on the same level of fantasy for them
>>741495190They fucked up at the finish line.
>>741495160picky eater
>>741495160anyone who says the designs are bad whilst putting bootleg alucard at the top should not be taken seriously.
>>741495190It won't. Dimitri is cool because he is a man.
>>741495190All they need to do to seal the deal is reveal a pure schizo version of Leda and every FEfag will buy 10 copies each.
>>741495190I hope not because if she's a straightforward copy she's gonna underperform and inevitably invite comparison and be deemed an inferior or even skippable route. And we all know there is no way IS can write a better Dimitri than Koei's writers anyways.
>>741495392>Dimitri is cool because he is a man.That sounds gay anon.
>>741495392Patriarchy is male loving: the post
>>741493726we either see glasses chick or info on the regions on monday
>>741495392
>>741474176Would you with Snickers Snek
>>741495190/v/ is retarded. FemDimitri wouldn't be nearly as popular as the male version. Not even a fraction.But Dimitri is more than just revenge though. It's the whole arc.
>>741495024Edelgard at least have a couple points in favor, being that crests CAN be transferred to the crestless and nothing requires the Heroes' Relics to be used. Sreng and Almayra are threats, but ultimately a human conflict that can be resolved through human means. Not...the genocide of an entire race and upholding an unstable system that rewards dehumanization.Mila and Duma can ONLY be killed by the Falchion, which only those of the specific bloodline can wield. Without Alm, there is zero chance of anything being done and the world is doomed to be destroyed by a cult.>>741495196>the devs tried to create consequences for the most outlandish plot beats of EchoesI know this is a mispeak, but every outlandish plot beat of Echoes is literally ONLY ECHOES. The most crazy bit of Gaiden's story is Rudolph's Plan, that which Echoes ONLY MAKES MORE INSANE through the idea that Rudolph wouldn't tell his nephew that he is NOT IN LINE FOR THE MONARCHY. Alm being the leader of the Deliverance was simply because no one else was able or willing to help Clive save Matilda. And even then, he was all ready to just start swinging swords because Fuck Desaix!Berkut, Ferdinand, any noble vs. commoner idea does not need to exist and only does so as just testing grounds for Edelgard's writing AT BEST.
>>741495392Liking a character because they have a dick is weird dude
>>741495190Leda can't match Dimitri's psycho levels because she seems to actually take care of herself and has actual goals and interest that are seperate from her revenge quest.I don't think Leda will go full captain Ahab at any point. We do have a character named Ishmael though so you never know...
>>741495386>alucard stops being good design when it's in a different gamek
>>741495392Trvke
>>741495739Alucard is good design. Copying Alucard is boring and it's hard to call that good. Dietrich also doesn't look as good as Alucard.
>>741475140Not eating good time, my only hope is Alucard's lil sis
>>741495663The only 3H lord who would meaningfully have their popularity harmed by a gender swap is Edelgard Fem Dmitri would absolutely have fans
It'd be funny if Leda becomes a disheveled hobo at some point, like Dimitri. Like a genuinely stinky homeless schizo with matted greasy hair and poor hygiene. Guys don't like that in women, and the difference would be made apparent then.
This is what will happen to Leda when I steal her away to my mountain abode
>>741495825>Fem Dmitri would absolutely have fansOf course, just not as many. Not even close.Claude I agree.
>>741495160>Theodora in decent>Leda in badB-Based...?
>>741495392Very based and correct take.
>>741495796>PeakBased
>there are anons itt that will pick Male Eshmel and then Dietrich as their lord
>>741495951You have no idea how popular I can fix her girls are, imagine pic related but with big tittied femDimitri
She will give angel kisses
What actually happens to Dmitri in Verdant Wind? Does Claude just randomly kill him? I never played that route.
>>741495024That didn't strike me as strange because in the first place CF is a tone deaf route about Edelgard, a privileged authoritarian staging a self serving revolution "by the people and for the people" toward an even more fascist, corrupt, and expansionnist state than Adrestia already was. It's not her first nor her last contradiction. I absolutely lament that nobody within the cast clocked this and dragged her through her own shit though. That would have been glorious to watch but it's still pretty self evident to anyone who's not both politically iliterate and an Edeltard.
>>741496242He tries to chase an injured Edelgard after the Battle of Gronder while he also barely alive so he just gets mirked off screen by some lancers.
>>741496242He dies offscreen during the Gronder chapter and Hilda tells you she saw him die. That's it.
>>741496242He's left exhausted but still forces himself to keep fighting and Edelgard's army kills him, you don't talk to his ghost though unlike Silver Snow
>>741496242He gets a very fitting fate imo.He just dies right after the Battle of Gronder Field. Keeps trying to chase Edelgard and he just gets overwhelmed by the army, all of this happens off screen and the general reaction from everyone is pic.
>>741491178>>741491386I miss when Fire Emblem had white people.
>>741496242>Does Claude just randomly kill him?sounds like something Claude would doon BL route this faggot just randomly attacked his teacher simply because he refused to watch him and Dimitri settle a score with Edeltard
It’s awesome that Byleth is the only thing keeping your Lord of choice from being completely retarded and going off the deep end. I suspect Eshmel will play the same role
>>741496213sexo
>>741475367all very kissable except the queen and drakengard girl
>>741496474None of the lords so far look to be as retarded or mentally unstable as the 3H lords.Except maybe Leda, but I don't know how she can get worse. Game said she already had her mindbreak moment 5 years before the game began and she's very open about her psychotic pursuit of revenge.
>>741481837Wada and some other chick made fe7-10 characters
Sex with pinkies
Autistic Dwagon
>>741496570>Impregnates her 17 times
>>741496630Wada only did character design on FE8. She did portraits on FE6-FE9 (like Kusakihara did on 3H and FW).
>>741496146Not nearly as popular as I can fix him boys. Menheras have their niche but they're far from mainstream. Dimitri isn't even obssesed with (You) like a yandere, he's all about his old sistercrush.Also, Dimitri's rampage looks threatening because he's a 188cm buff man.
>>741496630>fire emblem only had dignity with women at the helm
>>741496606>sword hisoka>lady dimitri>edelgard but charisma>chapter one Alm>nOnE oF ThE LoRdS sO FaR LoOk to Be aS ReTaRded oR MeNtAllY uNsTabLE as thE 3h LoRDS
>>741475367>Leda>Theodora>Glasses>Greenleth>Pinkhair>Massive Power Gap>Cancer Marianne
My disconnect with Verdant Wind and Claude as a whole is that it just sort of feels like it’s personally not interested in the broader narrative. I’m still not even really sure what exactly Claude’s motivations entirely areDimitri and Edelgard both had vast personal traumas that shaped them and they have clearly defined goals beyond “I want Fodlan to be nicer”. With Claude there’s not really a shaping trauma, and the only really negative event in his life was minor racism about him being brown. He doesn’t really seem to have any reason for doing anything that he does beyond just wanting to do it.
Marriage with Marianne!
>>741497202Cover those ears up and make her miss a few days of sleep and then we can talk
>>741497010tbf isn't the point of VW to deliberately ignore the smokescreen of that "broader narrative" and peel back the curtain of what's actually going on in the war while Dimitri and Edelgard are preoccupied with trying to hatefuck each other with steel blades?Dimitri's route is literally just about Dimitri and Edelgard's route is a fanfic.
>>74149565650 eggs
How would you guys react if the small coliseum maps we've seen so far are just a bait and switch and the maps are actually closer to the larger Genealogy style maps?
>>741497010the way I saw Claude was as him being a naive child who believes everyone shares the values and mindset of the people of fodlan, it turns out the people who he considers kin think he is a moron and just want to pillage fodlan.3 houses and 3 hopes make claude look like a complete fool, who's only redeeming trait is luck.
>>741497402It wouldn’t really make sense for a Colosseum map to be that bigI do wonder how they will handle the massive maps if they ever do remake genealogy, though since I have to imagine, Zoomies would find the freedom discomfortin. You can often ignore the enemies for like 20 turns on some of those maps in order to arena grind and look for secrets.
>>741497402We've seen an outside map with Dietrich in the first trailer and it looked normal-sized (and really ugly)
>>741497202First place on my list of units that I recruit not because I want to use them, but because of the awful shit that will happen if I don't pick them up.
Are stationary bosses bad game design?
>>741497010This is sort of the point. I'm not a fan of Claude as a character, but I do note that Claude is supposed to be disconnected. As the Neutral Route representative (to borrow SMT terms), he is not supposed to have the same emotional hangups that would prevent a rational hand in saving Fodlan. Unlike Edelgard and Dimitri, he didn't make Charisma his dump stat, he doesn't have the same time pressures or mental illnesses that would make him victim to the cycles of suffering that makes Fodlan the way it is. Not being stuck in his own head lets him view the world as is and lets him make the most "human" of geopolitical choices. But also he understands why radical solutions would be necessary, it is why even he says he would have just invaded Fodlan with Almayra should push comes to shove, Edelgard just beat him to the punch.This is why Three Hopes made it a point in him needing to personally kill his brother to stop Almayra's invasion, this (combined with no Byleth) RADICALLY steers his decision-making to a more emotional, irrational level. Claude CAN go wrong, it just that Three Houses wasn't interested in making him another basketcase in a game filled with them.All this said, yeah, it does just make him a really lame character. Even if he wasn't overshadowed by Little Miss Accelerationist and King "Oh Boy A Schizo Post", Claude lacks any real bite to him as a character.>>741497402Genealogy maps, even if they were fun, just ain't happening in 2026. You'd think modern game development would have the time to let anyone make maps that huge?
How will Eshmel upHEEV the Wurld
>>741497402I don't think it's a bait and switch. I assume everyone is expecting the Coliseum to only really last for maybe the 1st act before the city gets carpet bombed, and the rest of the game is on those much bigger maps outside of that hub.
>>741497536Yes
>>741497554correction correction
>>741497536No
>>741497554He trips and accidentally pulls the lever that opens the Underworld portal.
>>741497536No, but bosses don't really make sense in Fire Emblem anyway. One enemy dude shouldn't be able to survive 10 of your own dudes ganging up on him. Dragons and other sorts of beasts can be an exception.
God I hope she’s a massive bitch
>>741497804same
>>741497804>hunter class
>>741497010>My disconnect with Verdant Wind and Claude as a whole is that it just sort of feels like it’s personally not interested in the broader narrative. I’m still not even really sure what exactly Claude’s motivations entirely areI had the complete opposite impression. Edelgard's and Dimitri's stories are so damn tunnel-vision:ed that they kind of miss half the narrative. Or more than half of it even. Verdant Wind and the Church route are like the only routes where most of the story is actually explained. Edelgard's and Dimitri's stories are more personal stories.
>>741497912I do hope it’s a reference honestly. Make her dislike small animals.
>>741496750
>>741497010Claude went to Fodlan because he thought the Church was made up by racists to keep brown people out and he wanted to destroy it and let the brown people in.But then it is revealed his Teacher is the literal God of that religion and Cyril called him a retard so he just gave up.For the real world reason its because IS rushed KT and VW just ended up becoming a Silver Snow clone but for some reason they gave the final bosses that would make sense on SS to VW and vice versa.
For FE girl hair colors, it's:Green > Pink > Purple > White/Silver > Blonde > Blue > Red > Black > Multicolored (Elise doesn't count, she's basically just blonde)
>>741497554By upheaving her dress, duh!
>>741497956You care about lore and fighting mole people, they care about themes and complete character arcs.
>>741497912considering that Marianne has really high chance to be raped to death by crest beasts in her paralogue it makes way more sense to hate animals
Guess country of origin for this white woman
>>741498119>GreenDragon enjoyer spotted
>>741498067>IS rushed KTDidn't 3H get delayed multiple times?
>>741498193They tried to shove crimson flower in at the last minute, which is why it’s shorter and has fewer cut scenes
>>741498176Dietrich's imouto
>>741498176FodlanShe likes her older brother.
>>741490626Ive never cared about plot, its always either a series of conveniences or a mess, so i dont hold fire emblem to a high standard. There was something very charming and mysterious about the setting of valentia that doesnt quite get into loreslop, but presents a dying world abandoned by the gods, a nation of strength, frontier, and famine invading the land of decadent bounty to the point of apathy at their own peril. Alm knows the only way to repel the invaders is by running through them with a sword, but Celica sees the bigger picture that the continent is doomed to famine and terrors without the power of the gods. I always thought since my first playthrough that the argument scene really missed the point of Celica's journey since she made the argument all about the royal family and concealing her identity instead of pointing out the obvious to alm, that the land was becoming apocalyptic regardless of the war. Anyways the setting was gripping and I could go on for another 500 words but I wont.
>>741498193Engage was originally supposed to release first but they sat on it to make it an "anniversary game" and thus 3H had to come out sooner.
>>741498067why did people like Claude again? The dude came across like a retard.
>>741498191Green also has other cute girls like multiple peg knights, Rebecca, Nino, Midori, etc. but yes, it's mainly the dragons.
>>741498290Because he’s chill, mostly. His thing is supposed to be “nonchalant fool of owari on the surface”, but “cunning strategist” underneath. The problem is that we never really see him do any cunning strategies. In Crimson flower once his sponsored invasion of the continent by foreigners fails, he just blockades himself within a port to make a last stand.
>>741498290He's funny and the captain of the meme team.
>>741498290he was brown, so a lot of secondaries supported him just for that.
>>741498119For me it's white to pale-blue/lavender
Claude’s voice actor is also like the only one who actually gives a shit about fire emblem and plays it himself so I guess that helps his popularity
>>741498345green has the best female teachers as well
>>741498397Yeah, honestly Claude's "schemes" only really do anything with Byleth at his side. Just like Edelgard only stops going full Darth Retardus with Byleth at her side.Dimitri is the only lord who kind of does his own shit without Byleth, though he loses.
>>741498290I went with the Deers on my first run because Dimitri and Edelgard gave me psycho vibes.Claude is more of a chill everyman.
>>741498527>Edelgard needs an advisor>Claude needs a planner>Rhea needs a savior>Dimitri needs a tactician
It's black, just like real life
>>741498642they all need a shoelacer
>>741498563until 3 hopes, that game can be taken two ways. One he is a moron who believes all brown people are fairies that just want to get along and give children/old people pixie dust. Two the writers hate him.
>>741494606They need a general audience like they had with awakening to succeed. FE fags arent going to carry this game, (and I shant be buying oh lawd dem weaves)
>>741498153She always survives that because it means she got recruited and didn't kill herself.
She is somehow more Machiavellian than Claude btw
>>741498191even dragons come in different colors
>>741498824she would ask if machiavellian is a dish they serve.
>>741498824I like how claude does a 180 on religion in 3houses when its revealed his teacher is jesus and in part 2 he decides he doesn't have to kill rhea
>>741498691Yeah but a different kind. Edelgard needs someone who isn't a simp like Hubert to tell her how to be a good emperor. Byleth grounds her.Dimitri doesn't need that, he needs the opposite. His vision is clouded by revenge, but he overcomes that himself. He just needs someone to help him gain victory against insurmountable odds.Claude needs someone to make his ideas not just "dude what if communism just worked" stoner tier thoughts.
>>741477734>2019>a decadeanon...
>>741497912Its a kino class, i hope they bring it back
>>741498885Correct, I particularly like Myrrh's purple, which is why I ranked Purple high. Same for my chicken daughter and Pink.
>>741499016>Edelgard needs someone who isn't a simp like Hubert to tell her how to be a good emperor. Byleth grounds her.I think this is sort backwards. Edelgard knows what and emperor should do. It’s like her whole life. What Byleth gives her is grounding, yeah, but it’s emotional grounding. Darth Edel basically gives up on being a woman and a person in order to fully embrace her Iron Lady stuff. Byleth gives her someone to be vulnerable with, which is what she needs. She doesn’t really require someone who will plan her taxation policies, she needs a friend.
>>741499016>Claude needs someone to make his ideas not just "dude what if communism just worked" stoner tier thoughts.Fair. Honestly the deers have to be laid back because if anyone else listens to Claude talk too long they'd get a headache.
Dietrich is so damn overrated
>>741499250I would have agreed until his bio came out. He loves his little sister. That makes him ultrabased.
>>741499250and Leda is ovulating
>>741499145it's nice the GBA dragons decided to stand out in their design. Myrrh my fav too
Evil Claude would just be this but we never really get that
>>741499168and all claude needs is a brain who slaps him every time he thinks something retarded.you could make a perpetual motion machine with just his retarded thoughts that way.
>>741499368Claude is like Kojima. He has good ideas mixed in with stupid ones. He needs someone to filter them for him.
>>741498824>>741498910
so are we thinking part 2 is gonna be dragon lady opening up the "underworld" in the arena and unleashing the risen on dagsion? doesn't seem like there'll be much of a "human" war aspect, though theodora's wish for her country's independence could play into that
What we need is female Hubert
Why did they describe Claude as some 500IQ mastermind schemer who uses underhanded tactics in all of the marketing and the earlygame and then he never actually does anything like that.
>>741499513I hope they play a background role like the slitherers did, and the main conflict is about the lords clashing. Cai's father is the man Leda is hunting, Theodora is devoted to the being Deitrich wants to slay, etc.
until we have confirmed angel avatar and S supports its not worth it
>>741499250Hard to say right now but he's definitely the kind of character who's either gonna be best lord or worst lord, there is no in between. Fightfags like him are very one dimensional but when the dimension is well exploited by a competent writer they can be very entertaining.
>>741495190But she should've looked like this
>>741499521You have her, that's Ursula.
I will have implied digital sex with Ursula.
>>741499538He really should have done a red wedding style thing desu
>>741499579>Cai's father is the man Leda is huntingI've seen this theory a lot. Seems like it would result in a lot of people hating Leda, since Cai's whole character is being a good boy.
>>741499743Cai will fix Leda and they'll team up to fight against the bad dwagons
>>741499636That's one terrible femitri
>>741499743If Cai’s dad is a Dirlewanger war criminal I don’t think people would blame her
>>741499867and that is when cai becomes Nemesis
>>741499867Yeah, but if she kills Cai for trying to protect his dad, that'd be fucked up. Which would totally happen if they want to send the message that being motivated by revenge is bad. Leda would have to kill a good person to get to the man she hates, and it would feel hollow as a result.
>>741499743>Seems like it would result in a lot of people hating LedaCai is not a good boy anymore if his father performed manslaughter of civilians, he's complicit and a war crime apologist.
What about a merciless murderwife who then timidly asks you for headpats and if she did a good jobOh and make them a wolf girl because fuck you we need more monster girls
Cai is destined to free Foldan from stupid dragons.
>>741500031That's ridiculous. You don't blame a kid for what their parents do.
I want to marry Dietrich's sister.
>>741500057Just play Fates again, nigga.
>>741495739yes? mario has a good design, making a bootleg mario is shit.
>>741499976The battle-hardened I've seen some shit thing just doesn't work for women.
>>741500125You do if they defend them and try to protect them from justice and consequences. For all we know his father could be in jail because he deserves it.
>>741500057>asks you for headpatsshe needs to deserve those first
>>741499976i'd take female Dimitri over any of the lords in FW.
>>741500149Hello Dietrich
>>741500220The ex wife in this show is a fucking babe
>>741500220Well?Does she?
>>741500235I actually do look like him
>>741500214It does work, you just don't believe women can suffer or have the same emotions you do so you don't buy it.
Was FE red/blue any good?
>>741500360do not walk this path anon
>>741500214Bro your Metroid?
>>741500214Scars are hot on women. Imperfections on otherwise pretty girls are attractive
If Dietrich really does have a S support with his sister, that'd be two games in a row with lords who bang their sisters.
>>741498290handsome and charismatic.
>>741500380sure. things didn't get really bad till FE X and Y
>>741500214>>741500370It does thoughbeit
>>741500454Sounds based to me
>>741500436KekHmm nah I actually look like Alfred if we're being serious
>>741499618unironically he's ruined if he gets any motive that isn't just fighting, which he'll definitely get.
>>741500454Who fucks their sister in engage?
>>741500573Alear. Though I guess if you make a distinction between Avatar and Lord, then it's not the same.
>>741500571I don’t know why some people seem to think his only motivation is fighting.We know he’s hunting someone or something. He wants to “cull a beast” with Answerer. He may well also be a fight fag but part of that’s just a mask to hide his true purpose.
>>741498290He's not a retard, just a complete fraud. It's like watching LoGH but Yang Wenli never wins a single battle through wit yet people treat him like the second coming of Sun Tzu.
>>741500639>with Answererit is pretty funny that this is the name of his swordViolence is always the answer
>>741498824That's why I ship them together tbdesu. Also marrying an Almyran prince is probably the best outcome for her family's money troubles that doesn't also cause her much trouble.
>>741500057>a merciless murderwife who then timidly asks you for headpats and if she did a good jobToo lewd. She and her headpat request were only in the gacha.
>>741500078Why would he want to get rid of this?
>>741500454Seliph would be proud
>>741500802Nemesis was right about dragons.
>>741500802If Sothis has a million fans, then I'm one of them.If Sothis has one fan, then I'm THAT ONE.If Sothis has no fans, that means I'm dead.
Predicting that the first half of the game is in the colosseum mostly and the second half is outside + a timeskip.
>>741500802Because she’s a bitch once she gets her memories back
>>741500639Nah his likes and dislikes scream wildcard protag at you. Beautiful things and fighting strong people? He's Hisoka without the clown getup. The hunting he talks about is just him looking for a worthy opponent to pass the time. He's like Casanova the second he slays it he'll lose interest and move on. Every single shonen tournament has a character like this so it's fitting that Coliseum Tournament Emblem has a protag like this as an option.
>>741500903Probably, but I expect only Cai to get a timeskip redesign.
>>741500956>Because she’s a bitch once she gets her memories b-ACK
741500903I predit that Cai has blue hair
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If she gets 10 kills she gets a stamp and with 8 stamps thats a forehead smooch
>>741500903the second half will probably be similar to FE8 where you fight monsters and travel from city to city on the world map
>>741500903>first halfI don't believe it will be even that much. Colosseum is the tutorial area. Once you know your basics, the dead will rise.
>>741501037She'll kill me faster if she just smothered me with her boobs
>>741501046fuck off, freak
>>741500791But why inflict a racist upon a guy who suffered from it his entire childhood
>>741501051>wipes out the multiverseHow many smooches is that?
>>7415011841, she has to redeem the smooch before she can collect more stmaps, no banking them
>>741501184She's ugly
>>741501176>hey bro, you're brown>sufferedI mean, I cry every time someone calls me brown.
>>741501247So if she just checks back in after every kills, she gets a smooch every eighty kills?So if each world has 7,000,000,000 people in it, that's 87,500,000 smooches per world destroyed.
>>741501176She's not even racist against anyone who isn't white, it's literally just Duscurians. Meanwhile Hilda actually starts out racist towards Almyrans and her family keeps them as servants. We don't use the word "slavery" here.
>>741500571My guess is he's here to turn the divine Dragon Monarch into a Heroes relic to bring back home and fuel the fodlan war machineWhich would be giga-based
>>741501363fuck off
>>741501184>>741500796
>>741501392I want an Almyran servant girl
>>741501392>oh but she's not racist toward THOSE guysOh well then I guess it's okay... NO>Meanwhile Hilda actually starts out racist towards Almyrans and her family keeps them as servants. We don't use the word "slavery" hereHilda does nothing wrong, ever
>>741501329He also got it from the browns calling him white boy. Claude is a textbook example of a mixed race child feeling totally alienated because they're rejected by both cultures.
>>741499513Personally I feel like thats gonna happen really early on like chapter 5
>when I'm in a "desperate for attention" competition and my opponent is using a tripcode on 4chan
>>741501350Anna sexo!
>>741500998I hope not
>when I'm in a fortunes weave thread and I'm desperate to try and shove Shitveig into the conversation at all costs
I bet Claude’s mom was hot
atleast gullveig isnt a blacked dyke
Brigand emblem
>>741501587The memes about you are absolutely true, lmao. What a loser.
>>741501557There've been a few good Annas from this lately.I'd love a dancer Anna.
He just couldn’t help himself could he
>>741501468>I want an Almyran servant girlt. Dietrich>>741501518At no point does Ingrid treat Claude negatively poorly because of race or his origins. She really just hates them diggers. Other swarthoids are okay doe.
>>741498965I mean yeah man. Meeting Jesus would convince me God was real
>>741501675It's a prequel. Theo's lust for BWC is unmatched.
>>741501662It's even more ironic, because he's complaining about a Heroes character being brought up after bump limit, but he's the one forcing TMS shit earlier in the thread. Then literally just posted Persona.
I don’t like how much less effort they used for the map this time. I miss the stylization
>>741501738Difference is I posted one picture and then an anon actually responded and started a conversation about it. Unlike when Shitveig is posted and is ignored every single time cause nobody wants to talk about that ugly bitch lmao
>>741501350Maybe there will be a bigger reward for more stamps, I dunno
Raul gets cucked by tan dykes and brownoid men.
Racism is bad but also all of fodlands neighbors invade it constantly so like
>"I posted a picture of TMS completely unprompted, which is better than you bringing up the FE girl that asks for headpats in the discussion about headpats."Scientists still debate if this is a new form of retardation, or just fetal alcohol syndrome.
>>741501921If it's Anna doing the system, she'd probably cheap out a bit somehow.
Does she like hugs
Post more gull next threadI have no clue what her character actually is since I dont play gacha but I like her design, feels more like a fate character though
How I sleep at night knowing Heroes will never be seen as a real FE game and will always be sideshow gacha trash
>>741502030>I posted a picture of TMS completely unpromptedNo, I posted a picture of Shamir that happened to include a TMS and Engage girl, someone responded asking about the TMS girl and the conversation naturally snowballed into being about TMS.Unlike you who has to force in Shitveig into every single conversation you can because you're absolutely desperate for someone to say "who is that" and you respond with your canned "uhh she's Kirans wife hehe">wow FW has time travel?>"LOOK LOOK GULLY IS A TIME GODDESS">wow there's snake monsters in FE8?>"LOOK LOOK GULLY IS A SNEK>wow look at my res tank in this new file>"LOOK LOOK SEIDR HAS HIGH RES LOOK AT HER ASS"You're fucking pathetic
>>741502225She's a dork pretending to be a ruthless killer. She's basically Ivy pretending to be Tharja. She pretends to be a smug killer of worlds, but is just some goober that wants cuddles with her childhood friend (you).
>>741502254Same bro
Leda having the crest of Dominic is interesting cause wasn’t Annete also really good at music? I recall her singing for Felix. Runs in the family
>>741502169Is she going to be the Catherine of this game aka least popular girl
>>741502427Catherine was super hot tho
>>741502308>dorkI fucking love dorks, I'm interested
>>741501046They wouldn't have this reaction to me.
>>741502439Shamir...
>>741502439All the girls in the game are attractive in some wayIt doens't matter if she's "hot"She needs to be cute... CUTE
>>741502495She gets lost all the time, but uses time travel to appear like she always arrived on time.
>>741501704Why? Jesus' existence as a person isn't disputed.
>>741502595yup thats a wife
>>741502631She forced Kiran to have a kid with her named Heidr.
>>741500998I feel like his two childhood friends (the glasses girl and the orange archer) would definitely get a redesign, too, if there's a timeskip.
>>741502669babymaking rape?awkward babymaking rape?
>>741502730If glasses girl gets extremely hot like Annette timeskip, I'm stealing her away from Cai
>>741502730>punished Glasses Girl
>>741502834Annette is more pretty than hot
>>741502820Magic insemination because she does it to female kirans too
Timeskip glasses girl is ultradork
>>741502872Whatever fits your bill
>>741478026One of those ones Crunchyroll makes and claims is Anime.
>>741502895That doesn't look good for her back.
>>741502839She would get more of a Hinata-style glowup with a big cup size boost
>>741502839>loses an eye>glasses are replaced by a monocle
>>741502984Thats why shes holding them up
fat chicken
>>741502909Not really, dark skin isnt a modern invention
I demand cuter theodora art
>>741503130
>>741503216I saved this slop someone made last thread.
>>741503245Thanks! I needed that!
>>741503245gesundheit