why are gamers AI-phobic?
Maybe don't vibe code and put in the effort to make a real game?
Stop flooding the stores with AI crap and maybe people will leave you retarded techbros alone.
>>741574287at least be honest.. the only reason you dont like vibe coded games is bc you have something against indians..
>>741574202I am fine with AI being used for shit like curing cancerI am not fine with developers using AI to do all the work for them and then still expecting me to pay full price for the game
people will learn to like AI
>>741574428Any sane human being has something against jeets
>>741574626When pigs fly.
>>741574202"gamers" pretend like their hobby is high art that could never be tainted by auto-generative content
>>741574565anti semitism isnt cool..
>>741574202"High potential games"So for retards ?
>>741574646Out of my asshole.
Because it's cheap, lazy, usually ugly and being forced down our throat unsolicited by people who clearly hate us and want to kill us all as soon as they feel like they don't need us anymore.
>>741574654>gamersCoders hate it because it's shit and can't code efficientlyArtfags hate itMusicfags already hated shit like autotune for decades and AI just adds more to the pile of hate.Moviefags especially hate it.Nobody likes AI
>>741574202In almost every industry ai is used to cut corners, never to make a better product. Like theoretically I'm sure you COULD use ai to make a better game than you could make otherwise, but it's just not used for that, it's used to shit out minimum effort slop and flood the store. Like compare it to asset flip games, it's probably possible to use only stock assets and still make a good game, even a good looking one, if you put effort in. But that's not what stock assets are used for now is it
>>741574786Also anyone that wants affordable electronics hates it.
>>741574202AI is innately repulsive in art, as for code well if you cut corners with it your game is going to be a buggy mess
>>741574786>a bunch of useless retards hate it!you lost Luddite
>>741574786Wallstreet loves AI, so you'll get AI, courtesy of Goldburg.
if you complain about ai but haven't been complaining about digital art for the past 3 decades you deserve every last ounce of secret ai you'll never realize you're consuming.
>>741574757>who clearly hate us and want to kill us allyeah well, furries like you don't deserve to live so its fine
Digital storefonts were already full of low effort garbage. AI is speeding that process up tenfold. For every developer that is really trying to use AI as a tool to bring a novel idea into reality there are a hundred making Hentai Porno Puzzle Wives. It will not shake off that negative reputation any time soon if ever.
>>741574885useless retards are the main target for AI
AI is basically piracy and as we all know paying to pirate is the most retarded shit ever. It's why AI is flourishing in every single sector that is piracy adjacent and flops everywhere else.
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>>741574786Musicfags hated autotune but 99% of the time they don't even notice pitch correction anymore, which is the intended use of the tech. Even live music has been gotten pitch correction treatment for many years now.
>>741575008only useless retards endlessly complain about ityou are literally screaming at cloudsAI already won
The only people who hate AI are:1) Anti-Indian racists on /pol/2) Trannies on Bluesky who are angry that no one is commissioning them for gay furry “art” anymore.3) Actual communists who see AI as the next big thing to scream about after the “Gaza” shit blew overWhich one are (You), anon?
>>741575129you tell him, Ramesh.
>>741575129If you use AI extensively for anything besides shitposting and porn you're just a retard golem
>>741575187>y...you are... LE INDIAN!!!i accept your concession
Consider the following >>741574702>>741574884>>741575034Art that lacks human investment isn’t really art at all
>>741575171The first one I guess.
>Pro-AI retards shitting up the thread As usual
>>741575171>1) Anti-Indian racists on /pol/Sounds pretty based to me
>>741574202Because it's fucking driven the price of computer parts and consoles through the roofAsking why a dedicated gamer group might not like AI is probably one the most retarded things you could ask, at least ask a group not directly negatively affected
>>741575171Explain what's wrong with the first one without sounding like a retard.
>>741575243>AI is... le good when it makes my pepee hard and my tiny brain release more endorphins!>bad when its used for anything else!!!
only reason whytes hate ai is because now we can use ai to not only catch up to them but surpass them and that's why they hate it
>>741574786>Coders hate it because it's shit and can't code efficientlyI've been programming for 20 years.It codes just fine as long as you document and architect your code instead of saying "make me a game" like a retard.
>>741574287thats hinduphobia
>>741575375Yes. Raj.
>>741575287>NOOOO!!! YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN MINE!!!kek and these luddites are the same people calling you insane for liking AI
>>741575375It's not good when used for porn either but when you're horny enough your standards drop low enough to accept ai slop.
>>741575259>>741575287The only people who don’t hate AI are Indians and Chinese and other Asians who lack individuality. They confirm so much more, and as such will conform to the soulless slop of AI so much more. It’s pretty fucking obvious. The IQ of China and India is about to plummet from an overload of cognitive offloading and off sourcing. White people have always been more skeptical and more contrarian, and as such more individualized, soulful. You KNOW I am right too.
>>741575461>It's not good when used for pornAI porn is better than what 99% of human artists can makenot everybody is able to get off to deviantART MSpaint knee inflation pictures like you
>>741574202extremely low IQ people who have no understanding of anything they're talking about and are upset about platforms being flooded by low effort AI slop. Ironically they get all their opinions from youtubers making low effort human clickbait trash. see posts like:>>741574287>>741574565>>741574786>>741574796>>741574874
>>741575473This. Look how much china is investing in AI tech. They know they're cooked so they're going to spend all their money and effort trying to overtake the west in AIBugmen were already soulless so it's easy to go hard on AI.
>>741574202The fact that AI has been in the hands of devs for multiple years now and hasn't produced anything worth playing speaks for itself. Go on, name 5 games that use it that are actually worth my time and money.
The only useful use I've found for AI is for some search engine stuff. like finding some fix posted in 2007 on some dead forum for a obscure game without having to actually click on the link and scroll down and search for the actual post you just get it straight away from the AI summarizer.
>>741575473>i'm such a hecking special snowflake! i must hate AI because i'm so different and unique!!!kek! Luddites are such a joke
It's funny because this is just a horse vs. car situation. To not use AI in writing code is intentionally crippling one's productivity at this point.The art is different, of course (so far). But it's not like luddites care.
>>741575595>low effort AI slop.Yeah because high effort AI slop is in high demand, cry me a river
Complaining about AI is like horse breeders complaining about the automobile, or candlemakers complaining about the lightbulb, you will fail like you always have luddites.
>>741574202BrandX Bias. Even if something is objectively identical (or even superior) the fact it is a copy makes people (humans) naturally averse to it because being given a "Copy" is negative emotional validation ("Am i not deserving of the GENUINE thing?!").This goes as far as children playing with toys if i remember the research right. it was something i heard about like 20 years ago and am pulling from memories.The idea of Fake itself is a negative quality,and AI is, let's face it, Pratically only sued for making copies, like the fucking Indian Ghibli memery.Also it is basically 99.9% used for for "Advanced" Asset Flipping anyway, no fucking surprise it gets negative responses.
>>741574786>Nobody likes AIWhat about indians and venture capitalists?
>>741574202>"AI-phobic", trying to liken it to homophobia etcNice try Altman, you fucking fagbitch I won't pay 60-80 bucks for artless slop, simple as
>>741574202>high potential>would have succeededGenerous descriptors for one to apply to AI slop games. Games failing because they use AI is flawed reasoning. Shitty games fail because they lack vision and follow through and have to rely on AI.
>>741575449No one is calling you insane. Just tasteless and brown, which you are.
>>741575669>high effort AI slop is in high demandit is, that's why every company is using it, you would know this if you pulled your head out of your ass already
CGI used to be horrible and hated at its early years, now it's everywhere and even when people hate it they still consume content with it.
>>741575775[citation needed]
>>741575306>>741575276Did an Indian take your job or something chud? Why the hate?
>>741575756>you are... LE BROWN!>you are... LE INDIAN!>you have... NO TASTE! unlike me!!!why are Luddites so petty and pathetic? they literally can't even come up with any other insult than these
Two more weeks until AI does something useful.
>People are tired of slop>Create AI>AI is an infinite slop machine>People filter AI as a proxy for slop
>>741574202>>741575171AI companies should ask refund from all the AI shills and bots, clearly they are failing.
>>741574428it can be both, you know
>>741574202>they would have succeeded if not for those pesky meddling anti-ai luddites!lollmao
>>741575818>he thinks companies give a shit about their employeesLOL! they only care about profits, if AI is cheaper they WILL use it, they just won't tell you because why the fuck would they? to trigger the retards such as yourself even more? i mean its funny seething your endless seethe online but please
Because it's fucked prices in the gaming/computer space.Next retarded question?
>>741574202No company will ever lower the price of their products due to AI. They will keep the price the same (or increase it) but fire every human and turn everything into slop. So yes, I don't like AI.There is no cost-benefit analysis to be done for the consumer. Price = Same. Quality = Worse. Humans = Unemployed. It is simple math. Maybe if AI coded games were $50 instead of $70 they would have an argument.
>>741575972AI is cheaper but it won't give you quality either. So even the oligarch jewish rulers will eventually realize the truth
>>741575890Two more weeks until the AI bubble pops and you can tell everyone just how right you were all along!
For all the hate, AI keeps getting billions on investment, despite all the haters screaming. It seems to be that the average AI hater is just a poorfag with no influence on the free market.
All I wanna know is when is AI going to be used to improve npc AI. Like making them smarter and able to react in more varied ways.
CEO's should be allowed to press a button and it will automatically generate a game for them to sell for 90 dollars without having to pay artists and workers. This type of AI will only be available to the corporations because it can be used maliciously in the hands of the public.
I've yet to see an example of high-effort AI slop.
>>741576043>but it won't give you quality eitherneither companies or consumers care about this
>>741575595>frog posting India will never become superpower, pajeet. Not even with AI
>>741575890See >>741575661. I'm a senior software engineer who doesn't write code anymore, only reviews generated code. "AI" is a huge timesaver. The downside of not writing the code yourself is that one doesn't learn anything. A junior developer with AI and no human review would produce absolute garbage. Still, any experienced IT person would be insane/ideologically motivated to not use LLMs to save a lot of time.
>>741575660History confirms it to be true. Only white people see through trends and innovate. Everyone else just conforms to the status quo. Indians and Chinese are about to become the fucking Borg. Everything China has came from the West. Even AI.
>>741574202Or maybe developers that rely so much on AI assets make shitty games
>>741576131They will if it's shit. Nobody buys AI slop.
>>741576049>AI hater is just a poorfagswell most of them are Artcels so it makes sense
>>741574202They've probably been using it for years anyway
stigma dick in your mouth
>>741575868Leftists are taking up the anti-Indian talking point in order to shill against AI and other shit. They realised that chuds don’t like Indians and a lot of Indians like AI so they are using the issue as a wedge.
>>741574202AI and games will never coexist peacefully. It is impossible. You know why?Because they're both in competition for the same hardware and workforce. If a gamer cannot build his PC because AI made RAM cost 400% more, or Sony has to charge $1500 for the PS6 because GPUs are 300% more expensive then literally every single customer of those products will hate you and what you make just because you fucked them over. This is what these people don't get, lmao. It has nothing to do with anti-ai, socialism, communism, hating rich people, etc. It is as simple as you're making the components I want for my PC like 300% more expensive so fuck you and your gay retarded ass AI bullshit.
>>741575473>>741575612The worst part is that to compete with utter soulessness we have to become just as soulless as they are, and I hate it.
>>741576043AI is only cheaper right now because it's being given away at a loss to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars a year. If they actually asked you to pay for it to cover their costs every single prompt would cost you thousands of dollars.
>>741575414I've been programming professionaly for 35 years now and worked on several triple A videogames that /v/ likes, you are full of shit.
>>741576153>Only white people see through trends and innovateand who do you think is pushing AI the most? Indians live rent free in your head yes, but they aren't the ones who own the biggest AI companies
>>741574202ai is killing artists
Hating a technology is really low IQ. Hating it being used for art is one thing but outright refusing to understand it out of hatred is grug tier
Reminder that being anti AI is a midwit Reddit opinion.If you're white and high IQ you'll be using it to make your own game engine and free yourself from the Tyranny of Unity and Unreal, and the homosexual tendencies of Godot.
Because the people using it are lazy. You could put effort into ai, but then why would you? It's fundamentally defeating the purpose of using it because you are cheap or lazy.It's like when you spot an assetflip game.
>>741576043>AI is cheaperFor the company. It's more expensive for gamers overall from all the side effects and current/future costs hardware-wise/electricity-wise. Hence why gamers as a whole hate it.
>>741576290White people push AI but won’t let it destroy them the way Indians and Chinese will let it destroy them. Every time white people give something to the world, the world abuses it.
AI is based for shitposting
>>741576324>extreme reductionist>discussing IQlol, lmao
>>741575595>I get all my opinions from ecelebs so everyone else does too!
>>741576147Despite so many people claiming they code with AI I don't see a single stream of somebody coding with AI on programmer Youtube or programmer Twitch. Every time somebody tries an AI tool on video it just shits the bed within 10 minutes and they have to go back to manual coding. Maybe this sales pitch works on geriatric boomers but as somebody that actually watches a lot of programmers it's pretty damning that there's zero examples of a streamer programming with AI in the real world.
>>741576285You're cruising for a firing if it's true.
>>741576324>>741576336They don’t hate or not see the value in AI, only how it is used, and the impacts it will have. The rest of the world isn’t as wise. Only a small portion of humanity don’t let technology corrupt them, while still using technology.
>>741576058Never gonna happen, at least in single player games. You can train multiplayer AI on the data provided by the players to make them behave that way but in singleplayer games you don't even want AI to behave like the player. I guess maybe in coop games bots it could work.
its great seeing all you Luddites hopelessly complain and scream like lunatics the second AI is mentioned, once you realise AI is here to stay you'll hopefully kill yourselves since its pretty clear you can't coexists with AI
>>741576252>oh no the Chinese and Indians are more efficient than us, B-B-But it’s only because they are soulless!Well, which one is it chud? Are whites superior or are they being beaten?
>>741576402that "reduction" is an accurate representation of the majority of people who hate AI. most people are that stupid
>>741574202because ai is currently crap.
>>741575259>>741576358/thread
>>741576482Shekels per Goyim is not a very good measurement of a nation's happiness or success.
>>741576417Why?
>Big tech uses AI>Ram prices spike>GPUs are basically just dead now>HURR DURR WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ITMaybe because a normal ass nigga can't even upgrade his own PC without spending like over 20X the price
>>741576467>brown hands posted this
>>741576457Your post reads like something the Unabomber would write.
>>741576049I can't make retarded financial decisions and count on the government to bail me out
>>741576482Efficient at becoming the Borg maybe lul. They cannot innovate thobeit.
>>741574202Two reasons:1. People hate change, especially when it could affect their way of life.2. A.I. right now is still in its early stages and so it fucking SUCKS. It's still REALLY bad and is being pushed way to early.
>>741576413Maybe it's just not interesting to watch? And yeah LLM agents are like blind kittens regularly shitting themselves. I can still write a short paragraph on the feature that I want and have the 90% ready code in 5 minutes.
>>741576493It's really not, it's a common "I'm smarter than you so I can speak on your behalf" sentiment that retards have when they learn the bare minimum about a topic that is already common knowledge. You're part of the majority
>>741576587He’s not wrong. Everything wrong with technology comes from the people that didn’t invent it. Whites lead the charge into AI but don’t become soulless drones the way Indians and Chinese are becoming. All those fake animal rescue videos are from brown people not white people. White people made a mistake by uplifting the rest of the world.
>>741576541>”Whites are superior!”>”But we’re getting beaten by the Indians/Chinese because they are more ready to adopt a new technology l!”Again chud, which one is it.
>>741576720I'm not even the guy you're arguing with, I just think measuring a society or person's worth based on 'efficiency' is pretty dystopian.
>>741576548Because younguns can do the same thing as you do with less effort and understanding, using LLMs.AI will probably get an order of magnitude more expensive, but it's not going away.
>>741574202can we go ONE sunday without "expert says" and DEI twitter freaks try to cancel cool thing by appealing to authoritarian governments and payment processors for the thousandth day in a row.there is nothing wrong with using "AI" (large language models) to HELP you make a game, if you disagree turn off your computer, all games use "AI" its called Speedtree you fucking mong, you are being taken for a ride by billionaires that want to hoard shit for themselves while they make you look stupid and believe me you look REALLY fucking stupid
>>741576467You sound brown. No one hates AI they hate the people using AI. You’re not intelligent enough to detect the nuance. AI is a tool, and like all tools it can be used sloppily. Indians cannot create art. It’s no wonder they can’t use AI.
good morning sirs
>>741576648>A.I. right now is still in its early stages and so it fucking SUCKS. It's still REALLY bad and is being pushed way to early.
>>741576670no most people really do think "I want nothing to do with this" and stop engaging with it. you're also stuck in an NPC pattern where you just invent a rationalization to put the person you're arguing with in the category they're talking about. try and engage critically with what you're discussing instead.
Gamers are directly negatively affected by the sudden AI push in terms of hardware and costs.It's the most obvious group that would dislike AI.You'd be better off questioning a group not as interested in gaming. Only a moron wouldn't be able to see why the hate towards it from this group.
>>741575640>The fact that AI has been in the hands of devs for multiple years now and hasn't produced anything worth playing speaks for itself.that we know ofim willing to bet most people use it to code but lie about it to avoid steam shame tag.
>>741575595I'm upset half the shorts i see on youtube are AI generated made up shit that tries to pass it of as being real>INCREDIBLE unbelievable thing happened>it's actually fake AI shitfuck off
>>741576832Здopoвo, блядинa
>>741576570how about legislate against them doing this while taking your drinking water with no fucks given, did you think of that? no you just "well the corporations will just use the technology against us" and accepted it without a fight FOR NO REASON.you keep saying the UK are pussies (until recently) so prove your not also a pussy and break something
>>741576863Show me some examples of good AI.
Hilarious how as soon as AI came out the rest of the non-white world thinks it can compete with white art/soul LMAO
>>741576870>try and engage critically with what you're discussing instead.>everyone except me is a retard who doesn't understand AInah you're too far gone homie
>>741576897So nothing but cope then huh
Only time I've seen people like AI is on this guy's videos, but he is doing something impossible to do otherwise, make a FFVIII movie for free.
>>741576795/thread
>cut corners>people noticeHow do we stop gamers once and for all?
>>741576863Name one even just AI slop that is high quality you can't
>>741576912> implying the fat woman didn't break that glass bridge
>>741576774That’s the only metric that matters. AI will be a really important technology in the future even if it’s only in its nascent stages now. Failing to adopt it because you saw some crappy AI cat videos on TikTok is very short-sighted.
>>741576648It's LLM, not AI.
>>741576970I often wonder if people like you are even aware of the assumptions they're making. You've invented a whole person to argue with and you don't seem to even be aware of it.
>>741576951It is a shortcut finder, and it depends on the quality of the prompts.
>>741576976you believed the E33 devs when they said those newspapers were the only thing in the game that was AI don't you
>>741577058ahahahah it's like fucking clockwork with you people
if ai is making it cheaper and more efficient to develop a game, why am i not seeing the cost savings passed down to me?
>>741577139You weren't supposed to question that. Chud.
>>741577139don't ask anti semitic questions...
>>741577139Stop being anti-semetic.
>>741577029Okay that's just semantics and is basically what I said anyway. AI is still in its early stages (it's not actual artificial intelligence) so it sucks.
what does hating AI have to do with Indian hate? i dont get it
>>741577126You're doing exactly what I just said but going even further now. I'd love to see inside your head when someone like you loses grasp of reality like this. It's pretty funny from the outside.
>>741576976i personally used claude for something small like a script just to test it out in a programming language i dont use, it did pretty good desu after several tries and telling it what it did wrong.
>>741577139That's Kyepitalism, son
>>741577090No, but I don't believe E33 is a game worth playing ether. It's a pseudo JRPG for people too embarrassed to play anime games.
>>741577139Have you tried not being poor?
>741577215he tripled down...
>>741576795>you are being taken for a ride by billionaires that want to hoard shit for themselvesMotherfucker AI will ALWAYS belong to the billionaires because the process of developing it makes the hardware to run it unaffordable.
>>741577086I want to fuck this retard, there I said it
Explain like I'm 5 why we proved mathematically that Turing machines will never understand human languages in 1970 and we're suddenly back to trying to speak to computers in English. Is there a lore reason? Are humans stupid?
>>741577220And then you can define some metric of success for it (a unit test, if you will), and tell it to edit things until it succeeds. No human involvement in the middle, if done right.
>>741574202AI makes my computer parts too expensiveSo I hate AIShrimple as
>>741577310That's easy. We didn't, you just drew false conclusions from a complex mathematical topic you don't actually understand.
This thread ain't /v/ so I am just gonna post stuff.
>>741577308Looks like my highschool crash yeah
Sarr melty
People like these should immolate themselves in a fire by their own will honestly
>>741577379Why did the entire industry draw that conclusion in 1970 and lead to the AI winter? Is there a lore reason? Was everyone in 1970 stupid?
>>741577139 i dont think big studios honed down yet the best practice like the ratio of needed for real programmers with AI programming.also i dont know how claude and such do in more complex programming situations and architecting whole systems.
>>741576571>>741576806>ONE INSULT >>741575868KEK! like poetry
>>741577465Only white Timmies believed that and there were no Bharat Brahmins to correct them at the time.
>>741577310Faustian spirit, it’s a white man thing. We can’t help but reach for ideals and push boundaries. You wouldn’t understand.
>vibe code my game>dont disclose ithow will anyone know? you cant't even see the source code once you compile it
>>741577469kill yourself
>>741577139>Jew market >ever reflecting cost savings on the consumerlmfao
>>741577465Indians weren't present.
>>741574646Don't underestimate the normgroid.They bend the knee every time, because they're bound to social will.
>>741576570renting hardware is the future. you can rent up to 8 hours of gaming sessions a day on a 5080 for like 30 bucks a month
If AI is so good why haven't you made your dream game with it yet?
>>741574202>have a nice food>enjoy it>learn that it was prepared using automated methods>start hating it for childish reasonsWho cares about these morons? All i care about is the end result, not the means of production.
>>741576951The fact that the non-white world is more ready to adopt a new technology while whites refuse to because of cultural hangups like “soul” and “human innovation” is proof that their might be something backward in Western thinking.It’s like if Japan refused to adopt gunpowder weapons when they first had contact with Europeans because “guns are soulless compared to katanas”.
I'm ok with AI usage and hyped for AI made gamesBut won't pay for them
>>741574202i personally am not AI-phobic, i just dont like slop games. it could have been manually programmed using punch cards if it's shit, it's shit. it could be 100% AI coded and assets are all AI generated, if it's good, it's good.
>>741577506i'm convinced no big business is actually fully aware of how much llms will actually save them even in the short term. the shit that went down with uber and some other unnamed company that burnt through millions of tokens in a month made me question what koolaid the upper management were fed with. can hype and vibes really blind the people in charge to such an extent?
>>741577715because its expensive as fuck1h of vibe coding is like 30$, and it would take me at least 1000h to make my dream game
>>741577593If your hypothetical game is good and fun I don't think people will care, thing is most if not all of the vibe coded games are not good.
>>741577206The current AI is pretty much a dead end corpos use to ignore the copyright laws. The very way it works is flawed, it will never be actually fixed.
whats up with the random AI garbage images being posted in this thread?
>>741577340>unit testkek, some agile lingo.anyway it doesnt work like that, you still need some programmers. im not sure how it will work in real situaition like regression where you have to work on some old code and read some high level design docs to understand some workflows that arent explained in the code and talk to several real people to figure it out as well.to make it wholly AI, HLD docs would need to be in a specific format and very much precise for an AI to understand it 100%, also to remove and redundancy of documency that might confuse it and to decide which ones to keep.etc etc
>>741577734>have garbage food>finds out is precooked>leave a negative reviewi care for the food i consume you dumb amerishart.
>>741577821Retarded indian mad that it's not video games (he's wrong btw AI directly affects vidya)
My workplace tried rolling out AI and now they need to have meetings every week to tell HR women not to upload classified employee information to every LLM under the sun. Pretty sure it's going to get banned in our workplace soon.
>>741577774if its that expansive it unviable yet then
>>741574202because AI is for lazy people
>>741577890why did they roll out ai? how do they know that the cost savings will exceed the amount of cash burnt on employees tokenmaxxing?
>>741574202If you didn't bother making the game, why should I bother buying the game?
You are not get a you outta me 82. Work for it.
>>741577310There's ways to compute things that a turning machine can't.
>>741574202People are in their right to know a game uses AI and are on their right to reject it´s use just as devs are in their right to use it if they want to. I realize the expectation devs have is that it will reduce their costs just as any other piece of nocive piece of technology they have adopted and got away with using such as motion capture and photogrametry. Unfortunately for them AI became too popular and is hurting them instead. I guess people just can´t sympathize with fully destroying artistic expression in favor of profits just yet.
AI wonLuddites LostSimple as
>>741577789That's very cheap by gamedev standards
>>741577873You can still hate bad food regardless of cooking methods. Your logic makes no sense.
>>741577715I don't want to rely on big data. Waiting for local coding LLMs to be strong enough to take the journey with me. I am getting itchy though seeing those full ass games being made with single sentence prompts.
If you don't give a fuck about the creation of your game than why should I?
>>741577913Ginny?
>>741574202dun like it. simple as
>>741577734>food analogyRetard...
>>741577975AI needs to gather data from the employees so it can be trained before they can replace the employees.
>>741578142I just saved that from the threads. Don't know if that his her name.
The reason people hate AI is because they know it’s getting better. It’s a kind of existential dread they feel that humans aren’t special and art isn’t something divine handed down from heaven. AI can already create fiction novels that are superior to human authors.
>>741578169Would you have preferred shit analogy instead Rajeesh?
>>741578127we took effort in our prompts..
Games are very low tier art, but art nonetheless. AI cannot create art, it can’t create anything, it mimics things. People want an experience or artistic vision created by a person, they especially don’t want to pay money for soulless heartless mimicry. The whole thing is a fake and a sham but when you throw a product that’s actually fake and a sham directly into people’s faces it hits too close to home makes them angry and brings the whole thing toppling down.
>>741578294Name a good ai novel
>>741574202Just do what AAA devs do, use it but dont say you use it.Also, read some of the negative steam reviews, literally written by autistic retards.
>>741574874I'm absolutely going to have to disagree with you here, it's great for approximations of things you want. The generative models for both pictures and videos are not only great for goon material, but also a quick reference of an idea that you can draw or model out yourself after. I can't tell you how many times a great idea has escaped my mind as I tried to sketch it out. With these models I can just type up a description and get something in the same ballpark, which I can then improve on, on my own.
>>741574202AI Fatigue has reached unimagined heights in record time because it is just dumped out everywhere. The more you force people to see something, the faster they get sick of it, human nature.
>>741578294Name your top 5 AI generated books
>>741576324People who sell AI slop are spiritually trans.
AIfags taking the tranny approach to being accepted. Consumers don't like it and don't want it in their products. So the response is to just force it enough that it becomes normalized and people's tolerance for an acceptable minimum viable product goes even lower than it already is.
>>741578310All games are derivative. Find me one game that doesn’t have inspirations and ideas from previous titles.
>>741578474AIfags and trannies are just two sides of the same autistic coin.
>>741578297i Would prefer a valid analogy, but you know you can´t present a valid one for your argument.
>>741576301Only the low to middle end patreon scammers selling you fetish art. Anyone in the industry that is being replaced now was always going to get replaced by outsourcing even without ai. The bigger issue here is companies keep trying to find ways to undercut its own work base. If it wasn't AI, it was going to be more Indians.
>>741578517You can say this about anything. Just about all fiction owes Tolkien everything and don Quixote before that
>>741578474>>741578547The majority of people seething about AI on the internet are lgbtq faggots.This is an objective fact.
>>741578517Whataboutism.A game can be similar to another game but still have a strong vison behind it. DMC and NG are action games but both have completely different approaches to design and gameplay. AI slop has no vision. Or drive. Or any human motivation.
>>741574202ai phobic? i wont even use most shit made after 2013 lolthe only new shit i have is the lowest end android phone a 2021 lg ultragear and a ps5 and switch oled everything else is old lol
/v/ of all places seething about AI as if they didn't have daily DALL E 3 threads for 3 years straight
>>741577745White people are adopting it. What they aren’t adopting is the reckless cognitive offloading and offsourcing that Indians and Chinese are prone to doing. They’re replacing their drivers with AI, which are prone to crashing, and this points to them not wanting to learn basic skills like being able to steer a vehicle. If teenagers today don’t know how to use basic shit like can openers, then this is a very bad sign. You can extend it to any other knowledge base. Kids are getting dumber because they’re addicted to their phones and don’t absorb knowledge as well as their parents did. Why do you think global IQs are dropping now amongst the youths?
>>741574202Not an AI problem.Game dev problem.90% of the games I bought early access have seen effectively 0 changes since that point, despite the passage of years.If a devfag is already so lazy, greedy and cheap he can't be asked to hire some deviantart tranny surviving on cup noodles at $50 a day, then why should I believe they'll actually finish their game?
>>741578626Bro my boomer co-workers fucking hate AI slop because they keep being shown fake AI slop videos. It was a bit of a whiplash moment because they actually used the term "AI slop" irl. Which just shows me that the AI fatigue is so bad internet terms are escaping into irl because its an apt descriptor.
>>741578682it was fun novelty at the time, now it's facebook normigroid tier
>>741577745We refuse to adopt it because it’s still complete shit. You’re using it because despite being shit, it’s still better than the average one of you can produce. Big difference. The screeching trannies who think they’re artists are not the reason western people don’t like AIslop.
>>741578746And my boomer co-workers fucking love AI, they not only enjoy those videos to an almost manic degree but they make them.You are a tranny working with lefties(if you're not lying and I heavily suspect you are), I work in a normal environment.
>>741578743Man you're such a nigger retard. Parading around like you're not a tranny yourself. Trannies are the reason games are shit, and you want to hire more?
>>741578728>Why do you think global IQs are dropping now amongst the youths?Lets take a look at the demographics of the more intelligent youth 20 years ago and the demographics of the less intelligent youth of today. Mayhaps we will find some kind of pattern.
>>741578682Those were "sponsored". Once it ran out, all threads were thrown into /b/ I think
i generated a AI image once and everyone said it sucked. I can't even do that.
>>741578628Explain to me how an AI generating something by taking inspiration from other works it has consumed is any different then a human brain doing the same thing. How exactly is the human brain anything but a biological machine?You really think the average human author just plucks his ideas from the aether where they aren’t influenced by anything he has ever read or seen in his life?
>>741574287You don’t need to code to make a game these days. All games use AI anyway even if they don’t admit it, so this article is operating from an incorrect basis.
>>741578682>everyone on /v/ is the same>peoples opinions arent allowed to change>peoples opinions arent allowed to change when the technology does, or new information about the technology is uncovered0/10 jeet coded post
I want my games made by human beings, not by Sanskir Suqmadikh with his pajeetware in some slum in Mumbai.
>>741578849So brown people?
>>741578626And yet. AIfaggots are forcing AI everywhere. Just like trannies. The irony is palpable.
>>741578895>All games use AI anyway even if they don’t admit it,Anon (you) is a gay pedophile he just wont admit it!
>>741578682>3 autists playing with their newest toy = the entirety of the board
What pisses me off is when people who make AI art don’t even know where it came from. All art came from somewhere. An artist. You did not make it. You merely stitched it together or told something to expand on it.
I wonder if AI pr companies are worried as their strategy is not working. Same things repeating with too much volume, they become bit too obvious. They don't evoke the emotional reaction what they expect, it has just become annoyance to see them everywhere. Hope they are not spending too much money.
>>741574202consoom
>>741578939Your logic is completely fucked up because you're mentally inept, I can say something equally retarded like people wo draw are forcing drawings everywhere so they're all trannies.>people are forcing speech, just like tranniesWhat the fuck is wrong with you? Make a real argument.
>>741578890The human brain can take ideas from older media they were eventually try to use their spin on it. Or play with it in ways not widely done before. Outside of the most soulless asset flip shit possible it's not 1.1.
you ''artists'' and coders are just mad you wasted thousands of hours to master a skill and your passion and now i am a better artist and coder than all you overnight with my master of prompting lol. skill issue
>>741578728All human history is the history of us creating tools to lessen the labor we do, ie to make us more efficient. If you are afraid of a new tool making us less smart or more lazy, you’re a few thousand years late dude. Are you aware that before the written word became mainstream, people remembered entire books by memory?
it's ugly and cheap and it makes games worse
>>741578890>different then a humanFirst, learn to writeSecond>inspirationIt´s a fucking machine, it doesn´t have any living being qualities.
>SAAAAAARRRRRRR!!! AI IS THE FUTURE!!! YOU ARE BENCHOD TRANNY LEFTOID LUDDITE!!! **proceeds to spam the thread with AI slop coomer shit, proving that he is not only and pajeet, but also a tranny**
>>741578584>double thumb making for six fingers>hair suddenly turning into noodles2 more weeks sir
>>741579075You're a retarded AI pajeet.Let me break it down for your shit eating mind.AI= BAD forcing AI or shoving it in everything = BADTrannies = BADBoth = Both BADDid this work you retarded shitskin?
>>741579076AI does that too though, the first really viral AI art was victorian era paintings of women with huge tits. And old idea with a new and unique spin. Something people never did without AI.
>>741578791Uh huh
>>741579076>Or play with it in ways not widely done before.LMFAO how can you type this while knowing it's fully a lie? Name anything that's not "widely done before" in terms of art. There hasn't been a single well known game with unique art, or unique characters that wasn't inspired by something else. Give me 10 of these examples.
>>741579158Bitch got a watermelon ass
>>741577938yep why would anyone ever pay for sloppa lmao
>>741579075NTA, and im not even sure what his argument was, but how about we think about it like this. A lot of the pro trans people like to argue by saying things like "Trans is here to stay you just have to get used to it we arent going away theres nothing you can do you just have to accept it". They are trying to force people to accept them, rather than letting people come to their own conclusions and accept them naturally over time. Does this not sound eerily similar to how AI companies and their PR shills talk about LLMs/GenAI. In fact they use the EXACT SAME language. Because they do not want to give people the chance to decide for themselves, they want you to feel like you dont have a choice, that its inevitable, but really this is just an attempt at gaslighting.
>>741579179wew he's mad
>>741579181Because that's retarded yeah.
why when AI is mentioned the india hate gets increased 10 fold compared to regular threads?
>>741579263Did you post this to make AIjeets look bad or are you just retarded and think it looks good lol
>>741579107Terrible upscale. Also ywnbac + ywnbaw
>>741579296Indias are the ones pushing for a future where everything is AI generated
>>741579115You’re still accusing me of being afraid of a tool. I’m not. I’m not afraid of guns, I’m afraid of the people who use guns. Or I’m not. It depends on who uses it.I’m sorry anon. Indians can’t use AI. They can’t. They suck at it. I’m not hating AI when I point this out. AI has a use.
>>7415791602 more weeks until the bubble pops btw my friends on bluesky told me so
>>741574202nobody wants your vibe coded slop filled vampire survivors clone Sanjeet
>>741579076AI can also do that. I use Sudowrite and I’ve even been able to get it to adopt a similar archaic kind of language then Tolkien uses in the Silmarillion for the epic high fantasy feel.Your only interaction with AI is probably bad cat videos on TikTok so that’s what you think all AI is.
>>741579226>The point>your headIndia is not sending their best
>>741579350more of this
>>741579115>Are you aware that before the written word became mainstream, people remembered entire books by memory?Not really. Socrates feared it would make people forgetful. Not everyone can be an autistic person capable of memorizing the bible word for word.
>>741579296Tranny cope pretty much. They did the same shit in /pol/ to try and "persuade" people into thinking hating ICE was actually really cool when they shot that dumb fat cunt. Their tactic is well let's throw someone under the bus for the sake of something else that they see more just.
>>741574202>AI-phobicI do hate Indians, yes.
>>741579367>t. wallstreet and bankers circa 2007
>>741579225That is as retarded as christians claiming the water from the flood is not arround anymore because people drank it.
>>741579160tranny and AI sloppers are pretty much the same, aren't they?
>>741579296because there's an anti-AI schizophrenic who's also obessed with jeetskeep that in mind the next time you see someone melt-down about issat or something
>>741579296they're the biggest suckers for it due to sour grapes of never having achieved anything at all. since ai gives them an illusion of being creators they shill for it relentlessly
>>741579383Name 10 fucking things you dumb nigger. Should be quite easy since it hasn't been widely done before, correct? I'm asking you to back up your claim you tranny
“I hate how Indians abuse ai and can’t even use it properly or with tact-““YOU HATE HUMAN ADVANCEMENT YOU ARE A BLOODY BASTARD”“No I just hate Indians”“YOU HATE AI”“No I just hate Indians”
>>741579252My argument is that the majority of people seething about AI on the internet are lgbtq faggots. You can confirm this for yourself in virtually any discord server, on twitter, on reddit, on retardera, and wherever else you can peek at a profile and reply history.Do they hate AI? Well you better believe they're defending faggots too.Your argument on the other hand is a complete strawman born from heavily desperate luddites. You're arguing with a technology and people using it acting like there is a relevant emotional debate happening(there isn't). Being a troon isn't a technology it's a mental illness that ends up in a person not reproducing and probably killing themselves. It obviously will go away. AI is a technology the entire productive world has embraced, it's not going away.Make a real argument you faggot.
>>741579503No. And kill yourself pajeet.
>>741579407Those were the last cleric nun pics. Sorry
>>741579537anymore big breasts?
>>741579513Kill yourself, tranny.
>>741579513>Goes to the ALPHABET maphia centrals on te internet>WTF!! why are thy all gay??Man, you are fucking retarded.
>>741579523he's mad lel
Notice how Indians always accuse you of being against human advancement and AI when you point out how awful Indians are with AI. It really makes you think.
>>741579491both live in a full blown delusion (I wear stockings therefore I'm a woman & I proompt therefore I'm an artist/creator) so yeah, basically
>>741574202cause AI is for fags
>>741579523Yeah typical tranny make illogical irrational arguments. Take your meds. You'll lose your job, and you'll hang yourself soon enough after that. Your fake vagina smells probably worse than the shit skins you were protecting 10 years ago
>>741579595Indias aren't even human
>>741579513>My argument is that the majority of people seething about AI on the internet are lgbtq faggots.Maybe, maybe not. But even if we assume that this is correct (there is literally no proof that it is), that is a complete non sequitor. AI has literally nothing to do with LGBT. Not even remotely. It does not matter who is for or against it. In fact it could be that every person in the world who is against something is a bad person, that doesnt actually matter. What matters is the truth, and the truth is that Generitive AI is soulless slop created by stealing from actual hard working people. It is low quality, prone to hallucinations, takes no skill, and again is soulless. It takes the entire process of creation away and only focuses on the end result. It is the most anti human thing to have ever been created.
>>741579589>the entire world outside of 4chan is alphabet mafia centralsasuga, ESL-kun
>>741579296The guy who made AI art a local technology with stable diffusion is a jeet. The main reason trannies hate AI art is because of stable diffusion. So now, all people that like or developer or use AI are now jeets in the mind of the schizophrenic having a mental breakdown.
>>741579572
>>741579709thank you
Sam Altman thinks art becoming democratized is a good thing lolHe thinks Indians are a “very creative people” lol I love how a naive gay Jew is leading the charge into technological hell
>>741574202>high potential>literal hallucinated alternate reality where the games succeedednice retardo "study" aka some AI inventing a narrative
>>741579697>stealinglol, lmao even
>>741579415trannies would never dare to be racist..
>>741579638You have lost 1000 izzat.
>>741574202Fuck those anti AI luddites, that's why many devs dont even disclose it any longer.
>>741579775Yes, scraping peoples art or words or anything else without their permission is in fact stealing.
>>741579296I guess because many of the AI propaganda shills are some from some low wage spam company in india.
>>741579595If an Indian posting crappy AI slop is able to make more money than you, then maybe you need to look into becoming more efficient anon. Maybe learn a new skill?
AI can now generate images more beautiful than anything most humans could make. Sam Altman just explained why nobody cares.“The value that people put on that effectively rounds to zero.”Not less valuable. Zero.A flawlessly generated AI image, technically superior to almost anything a human could produce, valued at nothing.When visual perfection becomes instantly available to everyone, it stops being scarce. And when it stops being scarce, it stops being valuable. The magic is lost. The scarcity that gave art its worth was never the beauty. It was the human who made it. The soul put into it. We don’t consume art. We consume the person behind it. The struggle. The intention. The human consciousness that decided this particular thing should exist.AI can replicate the output. It cannot replicate the origin. The soul. Altman points out that if an artist uses AI as a tool but still has something they were trying to express, the work may or may not retain value. Maybe.Regardless. The human intention is the product. The image is just how it arrives.Remove the person and the soul is lost. This is what nobody building AI art tools fully absorbed. They optimized for the output and assumed the output was what people valued. It wasn’t. It was never the pixels. It was always the person. AI isn’t going to replace human artists. It’s going to do something more disorienting. It’s going to make technical skill irrelevant and raise the bar for detecting true soul. Artistic IQ is going to drop into the abyss. Presence. Investment. Proof that a human consciousness cared enough to make a particular thing.Abundance makes perfection free. But meaning can’t be automated. Because meaning requires a conscious narrative to say something.The artists who survive won’t be the most technically gifted. They’ll be the most undeniably human. AI gave the world infinite art and proved that what we actually want is conditioned to be irreplaceable.
>>741579296Indians love AI. >>741579415 and >>741579496 are faggots.
>>741579865>able to make more money than you,>ai slop>making moneyDo you think anyone is actually going to believe you?
>>741579842that is literally not what stealing is
>>741579595Simple solution:Only white people are allowed to use AI.
>>741579865>AI slop>MoneyLol
>>741579865That just tells me the world values soulessness over soul. Sorry.
>>741574202>severely punishes developers who otherwise would have succeededmayhap they should have thought about that before severely punishing artists by not hiring them and instead stealing their work...
>>741579919Indians also love to breathe.You should stop with that.
>>741574202>AI exist >Resource intensive technology but supposedly capable of making great things>Almost five years since it became popular and still can't produce a game as good as the NES classicsKeep in mind NES devs were capable to produce great or least good games in like a year with just 80s tools, just see the six NES Megaman games or the Ninja Gaiden NES trilogy, meanwhile IA shit only produces unoptimized "Hentai" """games""" flooding the Steam and Switch stores
>>741579842Humans do the same. Artists scrapped previous artist's work and their brains learned from their patterns.
>AIfags hate artists>especially twitter artists>AI "artists" start popping up>they actually get paid to AI generate porn>on xitter they get into pissy slapfights in exactly the same way as twitter artists>they accuse each other of stealing their prompts and OC AI genned characters>they have the exact same kind of undeserved ego as twitter artistsIts funny how years ago AIfags would type out essays about how much they hate artists and then turn around and behave exactly like them.
>>741580017>IAturd-worldbro...
>>741580012Yeah but not oxygen like me but smog and pollution.
>>741579865>if an indian scamming grandmas makes more money than you you should consider adopting their strategy
>>741574646Ok, then you'll just have another facet of your life that you are unhappy with but can't do anything about. Like billionaires, and abortion being banned.
There's nothing more tranny than ai, it's insane to me how that's even a question.Not that it's not useful tech but it's everything troons and lefty commies want. The democratization of everything.
>>741575654we used to have something for thatit was called google
>>741579921Hones question, who, besides the ones who provide the service, are gonna profit from AI art? People are gonna go "Hey, I did this images through AI, how much are you willing to pay for them?"
>>741580118DO NOT REEDEM SAAAR
>>741580114Doesn't matter, they still love the act of breathing.Stop, right now.
>>741580109NTA but it's not impossible for White people to make typos.
>>741579574>>741579589>this was xis idea of an argumentwow>>741579697>(there is literally no proof that it is)There is proof, it's blatantly observable and there are even studies and surveys backing it up. >AI has literally nothing to do with LGBTIt is a purity test. - The majority of never gonna make it attention starved artists are leftists and they all hate AI- Leftists overwhelmingly also hate AI because muh jerbs muh theft muh water- Leftists have tons of mentally ill friends who fall in the above categories, and they side with them on matters such as AI and faggotry- If you're a leftist and you like AI, your leftist allies will excommunicate you(See; Elon Musk as a good example)> and the truth is that Generitive AI is soulless slop Make an argument you faggot, this is your mentally ill opinion and nothing more. It's blatantly false too as has been proven countless times when even haters like you love AI when you think it's real. And then you'll attack "real" art if you think it's AI. You're just deranged liars.
>be tranny homo working in game dev for past 15 years>make the ugliest characters in the world>games run like horse shit and look ugly>AI comes along>replace these freaks and niggers>b-b-but games will be worse!LMFAO Oh boy aren't you fucking ledditor tranny mods seething and it's fantastic
>buying AI """games"""Why the fuck would I give my money to transsexuals and indians?
>>741580017desu, you're saying that like there also wasn't a flood of low effort NES games that almost crashed the vidya market
>>741580158>can't even post xir's own ai slop
If AI is so good where are all the P98 inspired games with perfect pixel art?
>>741576301GOOD
Game dev is already bad enough with failure in retaining talent, we're gonna speedrun to the point where there is a shit ton of lost knowledge.
>>741580136yes but its a time saver because you don't need to find the actual post anymore.
Daily reminder that the anti-Indian hate is being spread by leftists from their discords. Notice how they always mention Indians but never blacks or other groups? It’s because leftists are pro-Muslim and India is a bulwark against Islam. They think racism against Indians is “easier” and won’t face as much backlash as racism against other groups, ie they are cowards.That’s why whenever there’s a thread criticising trannies or gays or feminism they instantly try to derail the thread by making it about Indians.
>>741580187I know, but IA is the way latinx spell AI in their language.
>>741580204>jew pays fags and trannies to shit up vidya>AI comes along>kicks the fags and trannies to the curb and just uses AI>has the AI pump woke shit into the game instead of fags so they can pocket more money
>AI can't have SOVLNever forget /v/ got BTFO'd by a crayon drawing of Sonic.
>>741580242retarded indians and midwit can't think long term.
I am posting what I liked from the threads before I catalogue it in hydrus.These threads are perfect to post them.
>>741574202Good morning sir!
>>741574428Not mutually inclusive. Luckily, hatin Indians is already a baseline, and becoming more mainstream the more people have to come to contact with them. Other people than Indians use vibe coding instead of real, hard work.
>>741580252This is correct except that the right also hates indians. It is cowardly of the lefties that they just seethe about jeets when it comes to AI though, basically it's just an expression of their impotent rage.
>>741580308alternatively, never forget when the internet got BTFO by Monet.
>>741580289How is that any different than today? How is that anyone's fault but yourself? You fags shilled up Expedition 33 and that was AI, asset flips and everything under the sun. You can't even follow your own logic you smooth brain faggot
i dont want to pay 500 bucks for 32 gigs of ram or a 1000 dollars for a midrange card..
>>741580308Using AI to draw a child’s drawing or emulating the 50s is just proof that soul matters. Soul is so powerful it will shine through even when AI is used to emulate it. A child’s drawing is a gateway into a child’s soul. The 50s was an era of peak family soul, and non-whites hate when white people were at their peak soul.
>>741580195>anon is literally shadowboxing with twitter leftists he thinks are using 4chanI wish i could be as schizophrenically deranged as you are anon. Its time to stop posting.
>>741580204>contrarian retardYou can think that woke shit and AI slop both suck you know.
>>741580242"entry level" devs and "senior" devs are doing a great work on the DA series...
>>741580410sex
>>741580252I mean nigers are just as guilty too. And trannies especially.Cope loser.
>>741580439I'm pointing out that you're a retarded nigger. AI replacing homo faggot devs won't magically make them unpozzed. The same faggots who hired and tolerated those homo faggot devs are just going to use the AI to pozz them up same as before.
>>741574202why are a group concerned with soul in games against souless slop? seems self-explanatorythat and the drastic effect it has on costs in general that concerns gamers. prices have skyrocketed
>>741576912I think my favorite is people blatantly copying other peoples works but now there's an AI marvel character sitting in a chair under it moving around to get past their copyright detection.Shit's designed for thirdies to make money.
>>741580446Sadly, ill have too do that soon
>>741580472Post AI art in a socials thread on /ic/.
>>741580458Damn women were ugly back then.
>>741575171You forgot1) People who want to buy RAM at an affordable price.2) Small community scale artists that aren't doing degenerate shit. Seriously go to a con, there's even AI art in booths there now.3) Environmental people because it is not energy efficient.4) People who live near datacenters that have to deal with electric and water fuckery their city now has to put up with.Fuck you, retarded /pol/itics anon.I don't hate AI. I hate the way humanity is currently using it.
>>741580521Retarded indians, nigers, faggot trannies and leftist commies can't think that far. They think "ai" will fix everything.
>stop using 4chan for years>decide to check /v/ out of curiosity>first thread I see is bait and people inauthentically pretending to believe things they obviously don't just to be contrarian this place never changes, its like forever stagnant culturally. AI could probably automate it very easily
>>741580136It's a better version of google
>>741580458>child’s drawingIt's a Chris Chan AI.
>>741580529>souless slopfuck yourself luddite
>>741574202AI is shit. Why do you people worship it so fervently?
>why are you hammering into a pile of shit?>YOU HATE HUMAN ADVANCEMENT! YOU HATE HAMMERS!>no I just hate shit covered hammers; a hammer is a tool and you’re using it rather grossly >BLOODY BASTARD SHUT OFF NOWNobody hates AI. Everybody just hates India.
>>741580556rip
>>741580478Ah, the gaming stats:BreekeerDedenlyGaiameG--CleurTand rotigere CRKthe very definition of soul kek
>>741574202I don't buy games on PC but no way would I ever buy AI slop.
>>741580651truth hurts.
>>741580617>AI could probably automate it very easilySome guy made an AI powered /v/ and its virtually identical to modern /v/ lol.
>>741580097Art shouldn't be dictated by social media period
>>741580626Chris Chan is a child at heart. Sonichu is infinitely more soulful. The future will applaud Chris Chan’s artistic soulfulness.
>>741580651Sorry he hurt your fee fees but he's right
>>741580651now do the cost effect trannywonder why you skipped that one
>>741580246google used to be better than AI is now
>>741580529>why are a group concerned with a faux term that completely changes it's meaning depending on who you askstopped reading there
>>741574202>phobicAdd it to the flag.
Notice how chuddies will say “soul” but they can never define what it means?
based BahratGODS, the REAL Aryans, causing a staggering price increase in PC components thus locking LUDDITE scum out of buying affordable PC components.
I have never seen anything AI generated where I thought, I would pay for this. The dancing AI cats are funny though.
>>741580752>now do the cost effect trannyAnonfag, only woke leftist extremists are against AI.
>>741574202Because there's no apparent benefit to the consumer. Oh, AI is supposed to make games cheaper and better? Than why the fuck do these games look the same and keep getting more and more expensive?
>>741580679yep, the early days of dall3 were rough.Surprisingly image 2 fixed that and you can make big infographics now witn very few slurred words.
>>741580832nobody cares dude, there are plenty of retards that aren't like you
>>741580617>>stop using 4chan for yearsdo us all a favor and continue doing that for a few more years
>>741580481Irrelevant. You get rid of some you get rid of all of them, which has done irreparable damage for example to western animation.
>>741580773Google search has been enshittified a thousand times over. It's almost unrecognizable now.
>>741580807>skipped the real world cost effectSeems to conveniently always be the caseNo AI-tranny ever has a response about it and finds any excuse to ignore it
We are not going to use the tag you want us to use. AI is everywhere now. From the supply chain in your food, to your meds, to you entertainment and there is nothing you can do to stop it
>>741580876>now do the cost effect>ignore the cost effect in replyYou can't make this shit up kek
>>741580773Brother, google was shit long before AI. Unironically I get better fucking search results using chatgpt now
>anti-AI luddites be like
>>741580617do you a favor and leave this hellhole
>>741580941Not my problem, get a job or something.
Cant wait for UE6 and stuffing AI into every corner.You think shits bad now? Its gonna get so much worse.
>>741581072>just pay $90 for a video game>what? not my problem get a jobCurious case of again avoiding the cost effect. It's a very real problem that they know they can't defend.
>>741581156What if I just keep playing old games?
it's coming
>I'm AIThanks for admitting you are a shitskin seething because he can't buy a new computer with the peanuts you get as a pay for doing slave work.We already rule you.
>>741581196Don’t care commie
>>741581169I agree with this person.We need some mass extinction event.
>>741581196>>just pay $90 for a video gameyou mean like the past 10 years?
shitskins are pro-ai my confused friend
>>741580607If AI stopped at running models locally I'd be fine with it but instead it's been a bunch of data centers for shit nobody really needs like Google's AI search dogshit
>>741581329I agree with him too but I love AI.
It really is incredible just how much worse the internet has gotten ever since Indians came aboard
>>741581169> blue sky tranny seething about chatbots LMFAOO, cant make this shit
>>741581329lead by example
>>741581169>blue-haired feminist on bluesky
>>741581262looks like veronica leal
>>741581169>Bluesky tranny seething about AI on a site that actual AI bots spam real CPlel
>>741581350Computer parts and consoles have not doubled/tripled in price over the past 10 years, it was very recent with the AI push
>>741581396Do you browse tiktok or what? This website barely has any indians and you'd know it if you browsed any board with flags.
>>741581454Anon, everywhere is bots now including 4chan. the internet is dead.
>>741581413Hey I wouldnt care if it took me out as well, just as long as you go with me.
>>741581315Which demonstrates why gamers will continue to hate AISo stop crying and pissing about it, it's going to continue to be a thing as long as it has a very real negative impact on gamers
>>741574786>Coders hate it because it's shit and can't code efficientlyAs a coder, it codes better than over half of them>Artfags hate ityeah, and they also hate jobs, capitalism, and over half of them hate art, listening to artist opinions is retarded>Musicfags already hated shit like autotune for decades>implyingtool in the toolbelt, any musicfag who pretends they aren't aggressively mastering their tracks and quantizing their vocals is fucking lying to you>Moviefags especially hate it.>implyingright now the cost of non-dogshit cgi unironically adds 5-15 million to any major production, all people with practical effect experience are out of industry, and this has completely priced out the midmarket $50MM dollar movie because your choice was >either fundraise like you're doing a new avatar, or avengers movie, or film it in your garage on your iphone with the best practical effects no money can buy (aka dogshit) and no cgiAI is the biggest disruption to this and directors are fucking ecstatic because it's retarded that a composited 45 second helicopter shot is gonna run your production 1M bucks when I can be like>helicopter crosses skyfor 7 cents and just make the fucking movie.Even the viewers don't dislike AI when they're not aware of it: AI keeps winning short story competitions because most AI haters are retarded and are unable to notice its use due to unfamiliarity, but like the outputs better than human ones without this awareness.It's pretty much just mentally ill influencers who dislike AI at this point, but much like artists, they don't like anything and just hate the world, and hate to see the world change because it means they're still alive and experiencing things.
>>741581169I just realized I don't do any of these thing xhe isnt doing does that make me trans? I only use my phone to text people and receive calls.
>>741580446where the fuck are you from ram is over 600 and vid cards are already well over 1k approaching 2
Can we ban AI and jeets already
>>741574202because AI in its current form is only useful for two things>free low tier porn that you can spam>glorified test cheating (even then it can still fuck up)in terms of making a game its shit tier made worse by the fact you are expected to pay for it
>>741581496They’re all over YouTube and they’re swarming /his/ and /lit/ shitting on colonialism and white legends like Tolkien.
>>741576285>several triple A videogames that /v/ likes>AAA videogames>liked by /v/ at alllmao
>>741574202since you didn't put any effort in actually making the game then there's no reason for me to pay you simple as
>>741574428My last encounters with Indians were 4 women in different professional settings and they all started physically flirting with me within the hour. For context, it's easier to stay within this country when you're married to a registered citizen. They were extremely uninteresting as people and honestly somewhat unattractive too. Their women generally are just as bad as the image people have of their men, I'm sure.
>>741581556You keep accusing people of hating AI rather than the people using it.
>>741581609we'll send the jeets into a containment website for you after you return to bluesky, sis
>>741581530Those aren't bots idiot. Those are my adoring fans. This one telling me to lose weight is a bot though, wtf?
>>741574287It's hilarious to see all of the shills here gaslighting everyone to pay hundreds in token fees to get poorly-optimized code. old /v/ would never support anything remotely anti-consumer that is tied to the cloud.Then again, this is the same board that supports gacha.
>>741574202It looks like shit, it codes like shit and it's shilled by shit people.
>>741577004work and hide it better, but that's to much for the vibecoders lol
aaaand thread is overbye
Games with AI implementaed should cost $20 less than their counterparts that don't use it. Like, who's salary are actually paying? The savings should be passed to the consumer, end of story.
>>741581694normal people hate AI jeet, not just bluehairs
>>741581694hating AI is a human trait, ranjesh. I know you wouldn't get it
>>741581760anyone make a new one please.
>>741581760
My issue with AI is that it feels like the same artist is doing the art for all AI games. Same face, same eyes, same shading around the face, same dead eyes. It's like everyone is using the same model or the model is coming to a similar result everywhere.
The people who hate ai are NPCs. AI writes, draws and produces better than any of you. All it takes is a short prompt or a rough sketch image to turn it into something professional. NPCs don't like it because they don't have a creative bone in them.
>>741574202>AI causing prices to skyrocket in gaming and computer market>whY aRE gAmeRS AI-phOBiC?Gee I wonder
>>741574786Funny how its stealing jobs from all those groups of people. I am starting to see a pattern here..
>>741581849it's doing a average result because LLM's are nothing but summarizers. so you just get the average common thing that's based on your prompt.
>>741581949cute!
>>741581915if you could afford the parts which have risen in price you'd already own them.
Bump limit in less than 2 hours, wow...
I am done with humanslop textures nowadays.
>>741581805>normal people hatelol
>>741581849AI users have bad taste in general because of their incuriosity to learn, they have no self-awareness whatsoever and think that something is good from throwing cash at it.
>chuddies and troons seething about AI in this thread>meanwhile AI GODS dropping soulful anime girls made with AI to prove them wrongHuman ingenuity always wins
>>741581530correct.look all the stellar blade threads filled with ai gen shit.
>>741582009seems like this place really hates indians but why?
>>741581773>one of our artists made this texture with AI, saving a couple of minutes/hours>now you must lose millions to hundreds of millions of dollars because AI badexplain
>>741581880until AI actually benefits gamers, and not just the big AAA companies and tech billionaires, gamers will likely continue to hate AI.it's that simple. right now it directly negatively affects gamers with ridiculous price increases and stagnation in advancement for negligible or worse results.it's too early to be pushing it, and it will have downwind affects on peoples attitudes towards AI. should've spent more time in the oven
>>741582009You barely beat deltarune threads close to the release of ep5Good Job!
New thread please, I am not done talking about indians.
>>741582080everyone hates indians even indians, that's why they leave india
>>741582128>until AI actually benefits gamersYou mean like DLSS and frame gen?
>>741581994Anon, people don't buy parts until they need to upgrade. It's not a yearly purchase. Don't be disingenuous.
>>741582186He said benefits gamers anon, Fake frames doesn't count
>>741582174Use the current hidden /pol/ thread about swamps before it gets deleted please
>>741582195so ddr5 has doubled and nvme drivers have gone up 50%, and that prices you out of a pc now?
>>741582186Yes, smaller pushes that benefit gamers. Not the wholesale widespread push that has had a huge negative affect on gamers.If it was pushed more slowly as technology could keep up without affecting gamers on a massive negative scale, conversation would've looked a lot different concerning AI.
>>741582218Frame gen is fine. it removes any loading stutters you get in some games such as oblivion remake
>>741582128DLSSframegenFaster dev timesBetter artBetter writingBigger more detailed worldsSmarter NPCsSmaller file sizesMore uses for your GPUMore fan art of your vidyagaemsAI has done almost nothing but benefit gamers.The downsides have been:Expensive ram and storage(not really AI's fault though, just jew things)Uhh....
>>741582316>Not the wholesale widespread push that has had a huge negative affect on gamers.example?
Oh my... all that meatbag cope
>>741582343>Literally none of this is true btw
>>741582195it's a pajeet, they're going to keep pretending to not understand and it's useless to engage. they're probably being paid to shill honestly.
>>741582421the only thing I can understand is some pc parts have gone up by $200 and you're all crying you can't buy a new pc.
>>741582398Yeah it's cute that meat sacks still think they're relevant. Lol, or rather lmao even.
>>741582080It’s leftists from their discords. Their new strategy is to flood 4chan threads with anti-Indian racism in order to distract attention from trannies, niggers and faggots. Unfortunately the average /pol/ poster is very low IQ and falls for it.Everyone knows that anti-AI is a leftist project, they are the ones screaming that AI is taking working class jobs and how days centers are taking all the water and other garbage. /pol/tards are so stupid they’re being psyopped into joining the anti-AI project.
>>741582375Anon, don't ignore all the previous posts explaining exactly the issue. You're just deflecting because it's bump limit and doing the "pretend to be dumb to the point of exhaustion" crap.
>>741582531what previous post? I'm not the person you think I am
>498see? i called it. pajeet pretending to not understandit's a tactic shills use. notice how suddenly the pro-posts jumped on the playbook
>Indians ITT
>>741582343none of those are benefits, devs use DLSS and frame gen as a crutch for their poor optimization. and they use ai as a critch for their poor skills in everything elseadditionally, less is always more. bad ai, art, and writing comes from bad design. NES games like Zelda 1 were challenging and expansive in spite of primitive ai because of how well designed it was.
>>741582572Then read the thread. Don't pretend to be interested if you're going to pretend nobody has been talking about it.In any case, point's been proven and explained why gamers hate AI currently. At the end, only deflections came out when discussing the negative impacts on gamers. OP was answered.
Can anyone make a new thread so i can keep venting about AI, indians and troons?
>>741582707no. You made the post. respond to it or you're talking shit
You luddites have been saying that AI is a bubble that will burst in two weeks for years now.
>>741582674>none of those are benefits,Yes they are, you're just a fucking poorfag that probably bought AMD lmao. Bet you were seething that you couldn't enable RR for CD huh?>NES games like Zelda 1 wereshit.
>>741582758You need to be 18 or older to post here zoomer.
>>741582616The funny thing is that the right is generally more pro-AI because they want to use it to replace artists/programmers/writers who are more left-wing on average.Now that AI slop became a meme it seems that while wokeness that we know it is probably going to mutate into something else (Just like how MAGA erupted from gamergate/the Ls that evangelical Christians took)>>741582521kind of like this guy, the chuds are not very good at actually making shit for themselves that isn't just some snippy insulting webcomic because they seem to have lost their ability to make consecutive media in say the 2000s or so and basically coast on memes which have lost a lot of their zest and sex appeal to well everyone. Nobody cares about memes now, so now they are trying to shift shit back into either garbage gacha games or garbage AI projects.
>>741582707The correct end to this entire thread.
>>741582859>can't link to post>can't expand on point bunch of gormless npcs
>>741581817troons aren't humans, sorry sis.
>926shills are so obvious it's funny
>>741583043>npc mindlessly repeats something without understanding it
>>741582846>The funny thing is that the right is generally more pro-AI because they want to use it to replace artists/programmers/writers who are more left-wing on average.That's not why. AI is just a useful thing and it can fix a lot of problems in the world. Some of those problems being shitty art sure but that's just one facet of it.It's logical to be pro-AI and the right is the more logical side. The left is just a deranged golem and the corporate overlords want their useful idiots to help them monopolize art and technology with legislation and shit.Most great art is right wing too.>because they seem to have lost their ability to make consecutive media in say the 2000s or soIt should be obvious to you that there is a conspiracy among the owners of media companies to exclude certain people from success. Do you think it's an accident that most mainstream modern music is dogshit? That there are no capable humans on the planet all of a sudden? Or do you think there was an executed plan to make this happen?
>staaap>I don't like computers advancing lol
kekjeet shitting and crying
>>741574202>why are gamers AI-phobic?They're not, not really.Only a very tiny percentage of the population actually hates AI, mostly terminally online autists. Most people don't care. What they DO dislike, however, is content that looks cheap or low-effort. Just like how a game that's just an asset flip is less likely to get good reviews. But if they can't tell, they don't care.This image for example would look indistinguishable from a "real" game sprite with just a few touch-ups, and no one would care. Just don't make it look cheap.
>>741583043They always are. AI-pajeet threads always play out the same.
In a hundred years the invention of the internet will be attributed to some Indian.They are the most egotistical people on the planet. Except for maybe Chinese.
>>741583021good I'm not one then, phew
>I can't afford to upgrade my DDR3 so ai bad.
>>741583276A data analysis literally combed through sales figures and reviews and such and found that having AI slop lowered the amount of money you'd potentially make. I've known a lot of people who avoid Shadow Empire just because it used ai portraits but it's actually a good game. However look at the upcoming games and you'll see the AI slop is excessively glossy to a fault as if it came from 2010's patreon goon shit while say Rift Wizard 3 looks way more unique than that shit.
aifags are retarded and incapable of looking at an image beyond surface glance
>>741583468>implying
>>741583536>I like to sniff my own shit
>>741574202If you don't care about the game you're making, then I don't care about your game.
>>741583536trvke, those sovlless aifags can't understand true art like that one urinal or that one can of shit
>>741574202It has strongly associated itself with a never-ending explosion of low quality shovelware on every digital storefront.
>>741583608>>741583663wow totally amazing arguments that are not a bad faith child's argument
>>741583810>It is beyond your capacity to fully grasp my ability to discern and interpret the intricate layers of meaning embedded within the artist’s work and the nuanced intentions they sought to convey.you fucking wanker
>>741583908didn't say anything like this, cool strawman
>>741575171All A.I is good for is jerking off which glowing fucks keep taking away.
>>741583954Yes you did. you have the ability to look into art while "ai fags" can't do it. You're a fucking wanker.
>>741583663Like unironically yeah they were more about statements than the actual physical quality of the art pieces. Why are chuds so allergic to political allegories in media? Fuck they seem to even hate it when even their own side puts politics into their media and instead just wants things to be implicitly "Apolitical" and not make any statements on things. I disagree with Starship Trooper's (book) politics a lot but it is still way the fuck more interesting than Stellar Blade 1/2
The future is going to be so annoying. It’s also more apparent than ever that everyone hates white people and can’t tolerate anyone being “the most” successful.
>>741583994you misinterpreted it like a retard, what I mean is aifags can't even see the shitty fucked up details and probably even worse, ignore them
>>741584078what shitty fucked up details are you talking about?
>>741584078drawfags and painters make mistakes or don't give a fuck about things too, what's your point?
>>741584008>they were more about statements than the actual physical quality of the art piecesi do not careif putting a literal urinal is enough to get a medal named after you just because you went "uhhh it actually criticizes the discourse about what can and can't be considered art or something idk" then i will not be arsed to care about any "indepth statements" hiding behind art
>>741574202"We coulda scammed you, but we got exposed". Such victim mentality is straight outta Tel-Aviv
>>741577789But I thought AI was used to cheapen game development?
>>741583534>A data analysis literally combed through sales figures and reviews and such and found that having AI slop lowered the amount of money you'd potentially make.I mean... yes?I'm not really sure what your point is, anon. You're just repeating what the OP already said and I'm responding to. It echoes what I've said. Players dislike cheap content. Most games that prominently use AI today (more precisely, those that admit to it) look cheap, so gamers are less likely to buy them.>I've known a lot of people who avoid Shadow Empire just because it used ai portraits but it's actually a good game.No offense anon, but you're a regular user on 4chan, so you and the people you know are in no way, shape or form, representative of what the average normie wants.>>741583534>However look at the upcoming games and you'll see the AI slop is excessively glossy to a fault as if it came from 2010's patreon goon shit while say Rift Wizard 3 looks way more unique than that shit.Too many meme buzzwords
White people uplift the world.The world gives no thanks.The world erases white people. White people never existed.
