>over a grand for rtx 3060 performance Wow...So then what's stopping me from just building a budget pc that's similar in price but 3x the performance?
>>741640662>So then what's stopping meRAM and SSD prices
ur mom
They should've just put it on hold and waited for the AI bubble to pop, why would they go through with releasing something no one will buy?
>>741640662>similar in price but 3x the performance?You can't do that in 2026. Maybe if you have a time machine.
>>741640662its not even 2060 performance
>>741640982They probably contracted the production right before Sam Altman did his RAM scam
>>741640662but rtx 3060 had 12gb of VRAM
>>741640662doomcucks are retards who cant assemble a pc. they think it costs $3k because they saw a partpicker meme
>>741640776>>741640662
>>741641029you can, you just have to rob people
>>741640662A PC like this is actually more expensive, pc prices are fucked
Ram SSDs and GPUs are actually that expensive. You might be able to save a couple hundred dollars by buying second hand parts.
It's honestly so funny to me that these greedy fucks really couldn't take a small loss and make the price 3 digits, it would look so much better
>>741640662>tfw paid a grand for 1660 ti MaxQ performance back in 2020I can play most steam games just fine, so this fucking box can probably let me finally play some AAAs up to 2020. I am having mixed feelings that this console (gimped PC) is objectively superior to my laptop and can effectively replace my laptop as a PC.
>>741640662>what's stopping meThe fact that the MOBO/CPU/RAM/storage platform alone will cost you more than $1,000
>>741641570its ok when gabe newell shits in my mouth and rapes children in his yacht, epic has a worse storefront anyways.
>>741641570Go ahead and buy your own hardware then retard.See how much it costs your dumb ass.
>>741640662(You) are not the target audience here. You have a PC already. You do not need this. This is for console players who want a plug-and-play introduction to PC games. You plug the power cord in, you plug the video out to the video in on the TV, turn it and the controller that comes with it on, and you just select and play the game. Just as any console would. For something as simple as that, you now have access to the entirety of the 10,000+ games in the PC library at your fingertips. No monthly subscription for playing with friends, no ads to take up screen space, no funky bullshit to mess with. You are ready to play. Considering also, it's 1/5th the size of a standard PC case, it's smaller than any console currently out minus a Switch/Switch 2 (but could feasibly emulate a Switch and Switch 2 once a Sw2 emu is out), it's just as portable if not moreso than any console, it can emulate, can browse the web, can play videos, or anything else a typical PC can and a console can, and in many cases can not...The Steam Machine is for people who are used to consoles, but want to break into PC gaming without any of the hassle that they perceive owning a PC can have.But YOU are not the audience. So why the fuck do you care? You shouldn't. Full stop. So fuck off.
Valve reinvented the mini PC and calls it a console. At least it has a GPU worth a damn for decent gaming, the normal options exist solely for work.
>>741642639Fuck off, it should be CHEAPER.
>>741642748Then don't fucking buy it you dumb cunt. It's that simple.
>>741642320I don't care how much it costs NOW. Valve cancelled decade long projects yet they went ahead and released this dumb shitbox that can run decade old AAA games at best.
>>741642320Don't even have to do that. You can get prebuilts for the same price but better graphics, cpu, wifi, and storage. And this isn't even factoring in sales (which Valve doesn't do btw).
Hello, my name is Freddy Francesco.I'm rich enough to buy 1 Steam Machine with no controller Are you?
>>741641937pity reply
>>741642639You're assuming console players care about this shit and would pay a premium to avoid all the bullshit from consoles they're used to and don't see an issue with already.This is for enthusiasts. For people who probably already have a decent PC but want a comfy setup in the other room, an easy way to play with their friends/family/kids, etc. Maybe a kid who isn't a retard might learn about it from a streamer and be lucky if they can ask for one.
>>741640662Only reason to buy this thing is if you want a small form PC but at that point you might as well buy a gaming laptop or something
>>741642850And which decade long projects are you referring to?How are you certain they were cancelled because of the Steam Machine beyond conjecture?And the last point, a 3060 is able to run nearly anything released in the past 5 years on average settings. Which is something that even PS5's struggle to do without DLSS
>>741642639>plug and play introduction>doesnt include a controller
>>741640662>So then what's stopping me from just building a budget pc that's similar in price but 3x the performance?What's stopping you from doing both?
>>741640662>BuildingBro you have laptop with better specs at this price, let alone pre built desktops,
>>741642885Now only that, you can do ALL the things that make the PC platform unique with a regular PC. You can't fully upgrade the Steam Machine. It doesn't come with Windows, which most people use for work/school related tasks. And if you wanted a "console" like experience, there are consoles that are way cheaper. The Steam Machine is the worse value on the market for people looking to game and there's no reason anyone who spends any time thinking about how to get the best bang for their buck would choose the Steam Machine. It is a purely luxury item. It's basically a collector's item.
>>741643329Your xbox or PS5 doesn't have one? What are you, a poorfag?
>>741643230>enthusiasts
>>741641570why would they sell a pc at a loss
>>741640662You do realize most people get prebuilts. I'm getting a steam machine just for the convenience of a pre-built PC with SteamOS. When I've gotten used to the OS I'll make the final jump away from windows on my main gaming PC.The actual importance isn't the Steam Machine, it's the SteamOS and making microjeet suffer a little
>>741642850valve cancels projects left and right, why does this matter to you, god i fucking despise /v/ermin investor speak.
>>741641570It's honestly funny to me that people like you, who are poor, still think you deserve things you can't afford
If the $1350 prebuilt I got "ripped off" on had a RTX 4070 Super why is the price so high for this?
>>741641570But wholesome chungus gaben needs to buy another 5 yachts and a dozen mansions.
>>741646126Valve isnt a pc maker, it is a storefront for software and a developer at times. Valve isnt buying large supplies of pc parts.
>>741645824you need an overpriced prebuilt that's worse than your gaming pc so that you can... get used to the steamos? do you have brain damage perchance?
>>741642639>This is for console players who want a plug-and-play introduction to PC games.It's a dogshit way to do that, bordering on literal grift.Even "scam" prebuilts have better specs for the same price RIGHT NOW.
>>741646440Just swap for a GNU that looks nice
>>741646440Yes, I am not going to waste time installing SteamOS on my main PC as a shot in the dark. It's 1.5K for 3tb with the controller. Not really that much money, and it's very cheap - current prices considered - even if it is scrub-tier hardware wise.
>>741640776You can buy any budget basic bitch PC off new egg with higher end parts for sub $1700. Steam machine 2tb with controller is already $1600 with tax. They even have 9600X PC's for less than $1200 with some midrange card like a 5060ti that MOGS the steam machine specs. Extremely serviceable 1440p midrange PC's that are 3x minimum more powerful than the steam machine.
>>741642639Kinda funny most games normies you describe would like to play aren’t playable on Linux kek
>>741647454>you can buy [a PC] or you can buy [a different PC]yes but what's your point exactly?
>>741645989Raped valvetrannies really are the new Apple fans.
>>741648234>but what's your point exactly?The steam machine is a scam and even a 9600X $1200 PC is 2X more powerful in single core performance than the steam machines APU
>>741647178It’s a bit of an odd decision to be honest. You could spend that money on upgrading your current PC, get a better GPU that plays nicely with Linux, for example. And you can just install any distro like Fedora, Arch or the meme gaming ones on a different partition and configure everything to behave as close as possible to SteamOS. I have my gaming laptop running Windows 11 and Arch, I just boot into the one that is more useful for the tasks I want to do, it’s simple.
>>741642639>(but could feasibly emulate a Switch and Switch 2 once a Sw2 emu is out)I very, very much doubt it.
>>741648609>[PC] is much smaller, [a different PC] is more powerfulokay, so buy the one you prefer depending on what you value more. or buy both/neither? how is that a scam? again, i don't really see what point you're trying to make here
>>741642639>for console playersConsole players don't even buy the PS5Pro which shits on this for 2/3rd the price. Watch as youtube Will be filled with two kinds of videos: I built a Steam Machine beater for less and look at how the PS5 runs this game ten times better.
>>741642639>Considering also, it's 1/5th the size of a standard PC case, it's smaller than any console currently out minus a Switch/Switch 2 (but could feasibly emulate a Switch and Switch 2 once a Sw2 emu is out), It very much fucking can't, it has goddamn single channel RAM.For A FUCKING GRAND and still needing you to outsource your storage, or paying A FUCKING GRAND AND HALF you can literally buy a switch 2 and two dozen games and still have money left over.Paying OVER A FUCKING GRAND to pirate games you can just buy on a 450 buck console is the height of valve cultist behaviour. >The Steam Machine is for people who are used to consoles, but want to break into PC gaming without any of the hassle that they perceive owning a PC can have.It's troonix, they will have hassles regardless.
>>741647178Anon, bazzite and catchyOS are literally just steamOS.Just install either of those.
>>741642639how is this shit for console when the fucking PS5 pro is more powerful, costs almost the same, and comes bundled with 2 controllers???For this price, you are paying not for the accessible PC gaming hardware. You are paying for the form factor and that's not a compelling argument. If it comes cheaper, and I'd say $700, people would consider. But for now with this? SD on launch was a better investment.
>>741649478>it has goddamn single channel RAM.no it doesn't. and that doesn't meaningfully impact gaming performance in the first place
Reminder that most steamfags have weaker specs than this tard cube, valve literally said they designed it with the average steam survey machine in mind.
>>741648191Kinda funny how most normie games, especially the most popular ones that *are* on Steam (fuck off roblox and fortnite) are playable just fine on both the Deck and Steam Machine.
>>741640662>rtx 3060doesn't even have 12gb, absolute scam
I’m buying one for the vacation house tv I think it’s a great little thing and I wish them well with it
>>741650019Shitty rundown internet cafes bloating the hardware survey numbers in China, Russia and other third world shitholes are not "steamfags".
>>741650403>d-d-d-d-d-d-doesn't cooooount!lollmao even
>>741649628Hmm...lets see here...10,000 and counting games, that spans the past 30 years, all the remasters, all the ports, all the mods, all the expansions, all under one form factor, no monthly payments, no ads, no telemetry, and all of the benefits of being able to plug whatever peripherals you want into it versus...A $900 box that only has 23 games that can only be played on it, and the rest being able to be played natively on PC or another console out there. Then factor in the $20/month online playability, ads, and limited peripherals that can be used natively.Seems like an easy equation to me.
>it should be $300 cheaper imagine throwing this much of a tantrum over 300 bucks lol
>>741650663This is a well known fact anon. Its like claiming console shitters are still all playing on ps2 because of all the africans still buying it.
>>741651000people threw a tantrum over a switch 2 for 400 then shilled the steam deck insteadand now valvetards got raped yet againhilarious to see karma striking again
Why not just make something like Google TV/Apple TV or Amazon Fire Stick to allow for streaming from PC to the TV seamlessly?Consolefags and normies arent gonna buy this shit, and non-Steamie PC gamers wont cuz we already have a computer that is usually just better. This is literally only for Steamie shills.
>>741651201Idk if it is karma as much as it is this shit always happens
>>741642639>(You) are not the target audience here. You have a PC already. You do not need this. This is for console players who want a plug-and-play introduction to PC games. You plug the power cord in, you plug the video out to the video in on the TV, turn it and the controller that comes with it on, and you just select and play the game. Just as any console would. For something as simple as that, you now have access to the entirety of the 10,000+ games in the PC library at your fingertips. No monthly subscription for playing with friends, no ads to take up screen space, no funky bullshit to mess with. You are ready to play.Anon, this is not what the steam machine provides.First of all, Steam Machine runs an OS that is not officially supported by almost every single big release. Digital Foundry themselves have said a ton of the games they tested have performance bugs, frame pacing errors and other strange stuff because of the games not running on Windows. So no, you do not get a plug and play experience with games.Fun fact, there is already a big market of plug and play PCs that can be easily plugged into a tv/monitor and used with extern pheripherals. They're called handheld PCs, a market that Valve created with a very overpriced bad one called the SteamDeck, only for lenovo and asus to beat them so hard that they pulled out of the market entirely.
>>741651505I’d buy that product SM is not for me
>>741651505>Why not just make something like Google TV/Apple TV or Amazon Fire Stick to allow for streaming from PC to the TV seamlessly?You mean like they did in 2015, retard?
>>741640662I'm still on a rtx 3060 with 12gb I can't even upgrade cause every fucking model after this is 8gb/10gb.I wish AI niggers death.
>>741651656>They're called handheld PCs, a market that Valve created with a very overpriced bad one called the SteamDeck, only for lenovo and asus to beat them so hard that they pulled out of the market entirely.So valve was successful in creating the market for it?As someone that didn't buy the Deck.This sounds like a complete win for meHere's to a better Steam Machine from a competitor showing up from this.
>>741651785Sure, do it again but more modernized.
>>741640662>So then what's stopping meAI bros.
>>741640662There's more to this than just performance. If you don't see it, don't buy it.
>>741651937You mean like they did when they discontinued the hardware and turned it into an app, retard?
>>741652293I can download the app on my TV without having a Amazon Firestick, Apple TV etc. So yeah, retard, they need to release a more modernized version instead of this overpriced, underpowered piece of shit.
doesn't matter, it's gonna sell out in minutes, gonna get scalped for 2 to 3 grand, and they'll stop making them in a few months, making it even more expensive since it'd be considered a rarity.
>>741652917I know there's a few ardent Valve enthusiasts, but they're all brown and can't afford $1,400, much less $500. This thing will be available day 1
>>741640662so, what's the purpose of this thing? isn't it just a prebuilt PC with SteamOS installed?just buy your own PC and install it yourself for half the price
>>741652146INB4: the 'more' is being locked into steam drm at the OS level instead of being 'locked' into the windows drm which also plays literally every single game across any library.Drone talking point #4
>>741653103Nah many Valve fans are gay redditors and transgenders working decent tech jobs that love spending money on stupid shit
>Got a 2TB PS5 Pro for 800 eur one week before the price hikeFeels good man
>>741640662It would've been ok if it was $800 due to the ram crisis, but 1k for a 512gb console spec system WITHOUT a controller is fucking nuts.
>>741640982It's not simple. Datacenters and tech companies get to KEEP everything, after the bubble pops.
>>741649435>>741647454>>741648234nevermind that, you can build a spec-for-spec equivalent for 200 dollars less and it'll still have better performance too as the steam machine had throttled for a lower TDP.
Just ball parking:>5070 ti - $899>i7 - $385>2TB NVME - $289>32 GB DDR4 RAM - $243 DDR5 - $413>MSI MicroATX MOBO - $100>850w PSU - $100>micro-atx case - $70There are definitely concessions you could take in this build too..$2256 ($2056 for ddr4) for a really good 4K system vs $1400 for the steam machine + controller that is worse than the ps5.
>>741654630>5070 ti - $899>i7 - $385why the fuck would you buy either of these, you could easily knock off 400 dollars without losing any performance.
>>741651931>So valve was successful in creating the market for it?by copying the switch? or strapping a controller to a laptop chip?
>>741654630Dude nobody is buying a 2000 dollar fucking computer
>>741656857By forcing others to make actually good steamdecks.For me to buy.
>>741657124Yeah, at that price point, they'll probably go for a 3k+ PC like me.
>>741642639>This is for console players who want a plug-and-play introduction to PC gameswhy would a entry level pc player buy this? it uses linux not windows, its fps is shit compared to games they play on consoles, if anything buying this would put them back onto consoles
>>741657124>Dude nobody is buying a 2000 dollar fucking computeri literally just bought one today kek
holy fuck the kike squad is out in force today.it's a goddamn good deal.why is everybody bitching about the price? it seems good to me.go ahead and post any prebuilt pc thats better and costs less from any big brand company, i'll wait.You niggers are dumb as fuck if you think prices are going down on anything, not even just computers but groceries and fuel and fucking clothes and bills.if you are going to upgrade you should buy it because this is as good as it's going to get for YEARS.
>>741653582But could you put that all in a small cube for me, please?
>>741642148Not reallyhttps://www.newegg.com/stormcraft-sirius-gaming-desktop-pc-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-i5-14400f-16gb-ddr4-1tb-ssd-si1440fbb-560n2/p/N82E16883420040
>>741643759>And if you wanted a "console" like experience, there are consoles that are way cheaper.Big picture exists and is even being upgraded so there is no reason you cant buy a pc and plop id down in your living roomAmazes me that people are still that cognitively dissonant about that
>>741660185why do you need such a small PC anyway?besides pic related is better
>>741659424>Paying the AI taxFucking Dumbass
so will the thing be easily upgradeable? like can I switch parts? or is it closed like consoles?
>>741640662Go ahead. Build it.
>>741661004I don't know, but that's how the Steam Cube is
>>741661120I know for sure you can change the SSD and I think you can change the ramBut thats the most expensive parts in this fucking thing and will probably run you as much as the piece of shit itself
>>741661064im upgrading from a gtx1070 i dont give a fuck about a few hundred more its time for a upgrade, from what the internal xbox emails said the parts are going to be x5 next year in price so i cant buy it next year, then when exactly? want me to wait another 3 years with my 1070? fuck that
>>741647454>9060xt for $1700at that price point you should be getting a 9070 at least
>>741659778>it's a goddamn good deal.s thousand buckaroos to play indie slop is not a good deal
>>741660185FR. I am a man of refined taste. I can only game on hardware that approximates a cube. I don't care if someone can build a DIY PC with twice the performance, better thermals, lower cost, and actual upgradeability. The Steam Machine is a small cube. It has a light bar. It has a customizable faceplate. These are the metrics that separate real gamers from casuals.Frame rates come and go. Expandability is temporary. But cube geometry is eternal.My entertainment center has exactly 4 liters of free space remaining, and I refuse to compromise my principles by using a device that occupies 4.1 liters. If your gaming system cannot be described as "a neat little cube," then frankly it's not next-gen.
why are steamies using consoleCHAD talking points now?
>>741664714>chadsmore like consolerenters cause they don't truly own their hardware
>>741647454The form factor is at least half the selling point
>>741653582That is actually a bad build, because of the PSU they use. Add a minimum of around 30 dollars to the PSU. The cheapest PSU that wasn't complete dogshit I could find in SFX form factor was 80 USD so I'm assuming you might be able to find a deal for 65 dollars.That Apevia PSU is NOT SAFE to use. I don't even need to look up the store images to know it has a red switch in the back.
>>741640662If you're capable of building your own PC you aren't the target demographic of this thing.
>>741640662I honestly expected something stronger than my 3060Ti.This is just laughable.
wheres the nvme?
>>741642885Wow. Valve is literally pulling an Apple.
Friendly reminder that these companies were paying $8 for ram, it jacked up 300% on them but they charge you over 2000%
>>741665178WRONGIt's the opposite I thinkIf you have to scrimp and save over a few years to build a PC then it's not for you that's correct. If you can afford to build a PC these days this price means nothing. It's $1500 man for real, relax. Is that really THAT much to you all?I'm not even wealthyAren't most of you in tech too? It's baby mode out there.
>>741665110the PC build is 200 dollars cheaper than the Machine so yeah you might as well splash for a good PSU.
>>741640662Windows
>>741665473but it has better performance than linux by default
>>74166539865 dollars doesn't buy you a good PSU, it buys you a PSU that isn't complete dogshit (if you're lucky). My issue with that PSU isn't that it's not good, it's that it's actual e-waste assuming it was made after 2005.
>>741640662Anybody who is not retarded got a PC in 2025 after months of literally fucking everyone warning that AI will destroy prices in 2026. My 2k $ PC is like 5x the performance of Steam shit and with 6tb of top tier SSDs too.
>>741645989This 2020 tier performance shitbox is for poors in the first place.
>>741651505>Google TV/Apple TV or Amazon Fire Stick to allow for streaming from PC to the TV seamlessly?isnt that just Steamlink? something they already made?
>>741661120you can change the SSD and ram but not anything else
>>741640662>what's stopping me from just building a budget pcYou're just like those retards crying that Valve has monopoly. Nobody is making you do anything, why are you so narcissistic you think everything is about you?
>>741642885You're not wrong, but you guys keep ignoring the form factor. It's a huge selling point
>B-b-b-b-b-b-but you can't build anything cheaper with current RAM shortage prices!!Here you go. Thank me later for doing your research for you.
>>741640662>rtx 3060It's worse than that.
>>741665658When I built my latest PC back in 2022, I bought a $80 PSU. It still runs fine to this day. I think the fear mongering over PSUs is retarded. As long as you aren't buying alphabet brand chinkshit and do your wattage calculations, you'll be fine.
>>741665870Yeah this shit has no point. >muh small sizeJust get a fucking laptop with 5060 it will be similar price for 50% better performance and you can connect it to anything the same fucking way.
>>741665658>65 dollarswhere are you pulling this figure from anyway?You can spend up to 200 more dollars and it will still be cheaper than the Steam Machine. You could exchange the $35 APEVIA psu for a $235 one and it'll still be 11 bucks cheaper than the Steam Machine, lol
>>741640662I predicted either $1299 or $1499 and based it off how much it cost me to make my PC without taking into account the next for a display. I don't know why this price is suppose to be shocking to anyone. This is a PC in the form factor if a console, not a console in the form factor of a PC.
>>741666004but the thermals
>>741666081That's the number I assume you'll have to pay to get something that works fine. Yeah, you'd have to pay around 150-200 USD to get a good one.>>741665978You don't understand. I'm not "fearmongering". Look at that PSU, in fact, go buy it and open it up. You'll be appalled by what you find inside assuming you understand what's inside there. This is the "alphabet brand chinkshit" you mention. In fact, probably 50% of what you'd call "alphabet brand chinkshit" is massively better than this.80 dollars can get you a mediocre but functional PSU (or it can also get your complete dogshit if you buy the wrong one). We are usually talking about typical low OEM quality stuff, something akin to what you'd find in a 10 year old DELL. Your odds are better if it's ATX form factor.
I fucking hate techbros and what they did to GPU prices during the Pandemic and Ram/SSD prices more recently. The worst part is Open AI could go belly up today and ram prices will never recover again.
>>741647454When you buy something from a brand, you are mostly paying for customer support in case something goes wrong. If you buy random shit from newegg there's no knowing if you are buying second hand garbage. I'd rather buy from a brand or from a reputable store.
>>741666629I don't understand why people doesn't get that when they are suggesting other pre built PCs. This hardware is targeted at people who want a PC with some level of console-like convinience.
>>741657124That 5070 TI has 16GB of GDDR7 VRAM for $899. People are paying $2000 if they're buying a primo PC and not falling for the diminished returns of an i9/5090 combo. Let me guess, you still play on 1080 resolution and don't use VR. Alternatively, you could go for the 5090 with a known defective power supply connector for for $3000-$4700, assuming you can even find one. If you're dumb enough to buy a 5090 (again with a known defect) then you probably already signed up for the steam machine.
>>741666629>>741667125you can buy a ps5 for half the price and it'll be more powerful. Problem solved then.
>>741667690But I want a PC
>>7416673685070ti is complete dogshit value compared to a 9070xt and it comes with the same retarded connector
>>741667792then you can grab an option of a mini PC or a gaming laptop, both are cheaper and better than the steam machine.
>>741665870>power supply larger than the steam machineGreat comparison>>741666004>Just get a fucking laptop with 5060 it will be similar price for 50% better performance and you can connect it to anything the same fucking way.Why not just run a really long HDMI cable from your PC in your goon factory to the TV in your mom's living room!bunch of poor children on this site
>>741667983>Power supplylmao yeah a real build is not going to be using some dumb laptop grade low power draw shit, what a shock. Go back to /r/pcmasterrace for your updated talking points kid.
>>741649550You miss the point. It comes installed on the SteamMacine. Everything is set up. That is the appeal. I don't want to fuck around like a dork with shit I don't understand, because I'm not a trooncoder or all that techsavvy>>741648860The specs on my gaming PC are already good enough as to be relevant for at least 5 more years. If you've gotten a nvidia xx80 SUPER or xx90 from within the 2020's it's not going to need upgrading unless it dies.I explained it to the anon above. I'm not a tech-fiddler, it doesn't interest me to noodle around with these things. It's just far easier to get the SteamMachineI think that's why it doesn't appeal to you anons that do have an interest in hardware and software, and got a knack for playing with it. It's made for us dumb grugs alas
>>741640662>just like that steam isn't so consumer friendly all the suddenPC master bros what the fuck are you doing...
>>741642885>>741647454I hope you guys are just trolling and realize that pre-built PCs are a total joke and are often put together from used parts.
>>741667847Those mini PC or gaming laptop most likely won't have a big enough community to make gave developers optimized their games specifically for that hardware.
>>741663154KWAB! My thoughts, perfectly worded.
>>741663154This guy gets it. HOLE TECHNOLOGY or gtfo
>>741668769do you have the webm?been years since I've seen it in full
>>741668801https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi7pn0sGA3c
>>741647454>>741640662pffft even this ibuyshit machine from costco is better than the steam machine
>>741668826>almost 15 years agojesus christ
>>741668826>>741668801Made one real quick
>>741669103>8gb nvidia gpungmi, 8gb is only workable on amd due to linux dcmemg boosters
>>741669170run it on a premium 23" 1080 OLED monitor and won't matter
>>741669147based.fukken saved
>>7416692381080p oleds don't exist
>>741641570That's not the funniest part. After failing to go 3 digits, It's 1049 because 1050 would spook buyers.Valve has no idea what the fuck they are doing.
>>741665742There is only one M.2 slot? Only two DIMM slots?
>>741669103this is like 3 times better the fucking steam machine has SINGLE CHANNEL ram
>>741665831The only important thing is the height to fit under shelves. You can build your own PC and just use an HTPC case.
>>741640662>>741669103>>741647454>every single "you can do better!!!" example so far is a machine literally on saleAnti-Valve shills are not sending their brightest.
>>741667792Then build a small PC.
>>741669103>takes up a lot of space>an inconvenience to plug into your TV livingroom system>looks badYou're missing the point
>>741640662Worse actually, because RTX 3060 12GB is better.
>>741669583apple and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>741669583If you can't afford a living area with plenty of space to put a computer case you can't afford a Gabecube anyway.
>>741669558Or he could buy a prebuilt, like the Steam machine.Either way, why do you care if he buys it or not
Hehehe, I can't wait til Timmy says something about it
>>741669583>>741669479ok, here's an even smaller for factor with better specshttps://www.geekompc.com/geekom-a7-max-mini-pc/
>>741669583If you have a decent enough internet connection, which most people do in 2026, you can just install Sunshine on your gaming PC and stream your games to whatever device you wish.
>>741669680If the steam cube could be upgraded I wouldn't care about the price. But you can't. You might as well buy a small PC with better parts for slightly more money but far more performance.
Why can't retards understand this is a niche product and a prestige product for Valve?Some people with disposable money just want some small console like thing to shove next to their TVs and they'll buy it, this thing will be sold out soon. It's not some enthusiastic custom PC build and was never meant to compete with one.
>>741669741And not show off the customizable LED display? Are you stupid? That's the most important part.
>>741640662It's piracy, specially if you install SteamOS on it.You should not pirate consoles, it's bad
>>741669818Because people wanted a good product instead of a niche underpowered piece of shit. People are willing to pay the valve tax but not for hardware that's fucking soldered on and three years too late to market.
>>741669662>muh poorsIn all likelihood you are poor and projecting. But nevermind that. You once again miss the point; it's ugly, it would look fucking ugly in any livingroom, and it taking up the space it does only worsens that fact. On top of this it does not possess the features required to make it convenient in the livingroom in the first place. But for a gaming PC at a desk, sure I wouldn't use the Steam machine
>>741667821> valueLet's be honest here. Nobody thinks of "value" when playing games. You always buy the graphics card that you can afford. The 5070 Ti is path tracing luxury or AI toy. You get it if you want this.
>>741669818nigga this garbo is gonna play shit like re9 worse than the switch 2 at triple the pricenothing prestige about buying e-waste
>>741669739there is no dgpu in that thing you fucking retard
>>741669741The latency regardless of your internet speed would not be enjoyable
>>741669739>lmao fags can't post an equivalent machine without it being on sale>NOOOO CHECK THIS OUT *posts a machine on sale*If only prices were as low as your IQ
>>741669739>aifaggotbox
>>741669970you think there's a dgpu in a steam machine?
For this price you can get a gaming laptop, and get better performance. What the fuck.
>>741669915We're not pretending this thing looks good right? It's an ugly black brick. People made fun of the original xbox and this thing managed to be even worse. People will think it's a fat soundbar or some shit
>>741669818I always thought their main goal with this is to introduce the SteamOS desktop. Like how the Steam Deck showed people you can game outside of Windows now.
>>741670041The original xbox looked like an enormous ben 10 toy, anon
>>741669750I agree with you there, but on the other hand I fucking hate touching hardware and just buy a new PC when shit gets wonky or obsolete. Consoles and the Steam machine are made for idiots like me I guess. And - as an idiot - I'm fine with that
>>741670039name the gaming laptop you cant
>>741670034yes?GPUSemi-Custom AMD RDNA3 28CUs 2.45GHz max sustained clock, 110W TDPit also has its own vram which is what makes it a dgpuit's just solderedhere's a performance comparison for you, maybe shave off 10% from the 7600m to get steam machine perf
>>741670041It is very neutral in its design, which is acceptable. and it is small enough that you can shove it on a shelf.
>>741670104The BrickBox is advertised towards people with literal toys to put it alongside.
>>741670107or you go to a store and tell them to fix your shit/replace your old graphics card for a new one instead of throwing out a working systemjesus fucking christ
>>741670135Lenovo Legion 5Acer Predator Helios 16Asus A16
>>741670270No. I will just buy the Steam Machine.
>>741670267I bet you the majority of /v/tards have toys on their desks along with gallons of dust
>>741669972It's fine in RTS and turn based games
>>741669905What people? The enthusiasts building PCs? Consolefags? It was always a niche product and would never be cheap as a mass produced console.>>741669951For Valve it is, it's just some in-house hardware they developed to further their ecosystem, and according to them it's being sold basically at cost.>>741670061But that's exactly what it is. It's the full implementation of their ecosystem. They built the OS and now the hardware. And now everyone can look at what they did and replicate. It's the baseline "Steam machine".
>>741670270It's easier to just buy new>>741670305Don't pretend (you)re me. But no, I will just buy the Steam Machine.
>>741648234are you retarded?
>>741670369Interesting. Can you control the PC you're streaming from, outside of the game? By this I mean can you put it to sleep and wake it up without having to get out of the couch? If it can I'll have to look into it that program lol
>>741670407but you said you buy a new system when it's obsoletethe steam machine is already obsolete
>steamcucks are console level of cattles nowsad state for pc gaming
>>741670401Genuinely respectable post
>>741670041Looks like it actually belongs in a home theater setup. Most consoles stick out and most PCs are RGB monstrosities. I like the design so much I almost want to buy it despite not needing it.
>>741670401>What peopleThe thousands of people buying prebuilts. PC gaming is literally more popular than ever before in history. Valve easily could have become a competitor in that market instead of making future E-waste with no upgrade path.
Cube is a bust but do I buy the goggles /v/?
>>741670596>build new PC>install SteamOSYou have a steam machine now. You reject a blessing given freely, what a fool
>>741670639I can tell you're a consolefag.
>>741670681that will be $1500 + tax.
>>741670539No one but actual losers play at 4K with refresh rates over 60. It's not obsolete just yet
>>741670639>and most PCs are RGB monstrosities.you choose your own casepersonally my next build is going to be all white with no rgb, just pure fucking sex
>>741670649Anon, as I said this is the baseline Steam Machine. The whole point is for other companies to make their own, with whatever specs and prices they can. This thing is simply what the Steam Deck was to handheld PCs.
>>741670681If my wife ever leave me, I'll get them. But I prefer real sex
I wonder how many poor sods are going to buy this only to discover they can't play the most popular normalfag slop since anti-cheat doesnt work on linuxI already feel bad for them
>>741670781>The whole point is for other companies to make their own, with whatever specs and prices they can...prebuilt pcs already exist
>>741670843only soulless compnigger shit and those people aren't going to buy this thing
>>741670757I almost got that case because it was cheap, but I never liked it. I'm glad the hardware on my gaming PC didn't fit in it. It looks like an electric heater - which, in a sense, it is.
>>741670757I actually have that exact case in black. The Steam Machine design is much more in line with that fractal design than consoles. The PS5 looks like a fucking space ship.
>>741640982>waited for the AI bubble to popROFL two more weeks xister!
>>741670915Don't be disingenuous. No one would call something like this a prebuilt.And AMD is producing a bunch of different APUs that could easily end up in machines like these, just like they do for handhelds.
>>741670915prebuilts aren't comparable, they waste a lot of space, are way more fragile and have a lot of points of failurenot to mention they're not exactly preconfigured for a controller based experience and they get bloated with jeetdows
>>741670694but the form factor...
>>741670757>personally my next build is going to be all white with no rgbI did this. I regret it. White is a bad color because of dust, marks and aging. I went white with everything from the case to insides to keyboard/mouse/speakers and even monitor stands. I would only do black from now on.
>>741640662lol your still gonna buy it
>>741651931That's just 'a PC', Anon. They tried this before with their steam machine initiative which didn't take off because the machines were overpriced, underpowered and ran on linux. You might notice a repeating pattern or two, even if proton is notably better than options were back in 2018.https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/1696043806550421224/
>>741671037>No one would call something like this a prebuilt.what the fuck are you talking aboutthis is a shitty overpriced 6 year old pre built with proprietary parts, it's alienware but somehow worseactually scratch that even those have 1tb storage and dual channel ram
>>741671128my current build has only two white parts, the cpu tower heatsink and the keyboardevery once in a while i just end up staring at them because i just like that color
>>741645794Presumably, the idea would be to get people into the Steam ecosystem so they'll be expanding their consumer base rather than selling to a tiny handful of dick sucking retards who will buy anything with a Valve logo on it. This is how console manufacturers have done business for decades, and they've been mostly successful. Valve is instead going the Apple route and trying to sell a prestige product, but without the prestige that Apple commands.
>>741651931Retards still don't understand that Valve is just pushing the market with these, their intention was never to make a profitable product. After all they are already one of the most profitable companies on Earth by employee, there's not much that beats their current business model. They are essentially just doing shit because they can.
>>741671053Okay? You can grab mini PCs that are way smaller, with better specs and install linux on it.
>>741671349post them
>>741671261If you love it you love it, personally I just don't think white long term works, especially if this is a 10 year investment
>>741671389There's been multiple examples in this thread alone.
>look at the steam machine price>"WTF I can just build a PC with for that price!">Do not but a steam machine>Build a gaming PC >Still become a part of the steam ecosystem because Valve dominates PC gaming>Gaben wins in the end by having people PC gaming4D backgammon
>>741671265>tiny handful of dick sucking retardsValve has more users than Xbox and Playstation combined why would Valve be taking notes from the failing console business on how to expand their market?
Well, luckily I was able to make a living room PC with my old build parts. Unfortunately though Bazzite is an enormous pain in the ass. Can't imagine their OS being better.
>>741671425then link to them
>>741641570Fat fuck Gaben is too busy sailing to run his company, it's a bunch of side cut leftists like the type who made Deadlock.
>>741671153The original Steam Machines failed exactly because their OS was shit and basically could only play Linux ports (basically fuck all, they thought their success would bring new ports, which was dumb), also underpowered since they had to delay due to Steam Controller not being ready.That isn't the case anymore, they addressed the OS issue, made something that can actually game from day 1 and Steam Deck already showed it's possible to have another ecosystem that is not dependent on Windows while also fomenting other companies to have their own take on the concept.
>>741642639>Console players are already priced out of high end consoles>Release the most expensive gaming "console" on the marketTruly this is 5d marketing.
>>741670041>People will think it's a fat soundbar or some shitThat’s by far the strongest selling point for the thing I’ve seen yet. Nobody wants a fucking computer in their living room.
>>741671618steam machine is overpriced and worthless, maybe Valve should try again in 10-20 years when this fails horribly.
>>741671425Do YOU have a "mini pc"? Those aluminum bricks will squeal like a pig if you try to run 3D graphics on them.You either have to liquid cool or make them 50% heatsink by volume like valve does it.
Wait for the rogbox
>>741671654Don’t forget >and it’s strictly worse than the best console today at twice the price (PS5 Pro)
>>741671750They already succeed by making Linux viable for gaming alone.
>>741671720You just quoted a post of a fucking computer
>>741671053>are way more fragile and have a lot of points of failureHow could you possibly know this isn't also true of a product that hasn't even released yet?
steam marketing team trying their best but there are limits hereno one on this website gonna fall for this shit better advertise on facebook
>>741671654>The Steam machine is for console players>Console players who likely have next to no Steam library>Not only do they have to buy an expensive "console" they also have to buy all their games againIt will still sell because of Valve, but it definitely is not the right time for this kind of system
>>741671939>they also have to buy all their games againThey're console owners. They're used to this part.
>>741642639>Console players buys GabeCube>Buys COD >Installs>Goes to play>ANTI CHEAT CANNOT BE INSTALLED>CLOSING.EXE>money stolen
>>741670532That's a stock feature in the VR headsets I've used. You can control your home PC from the Internet anywhere,in VR
>>741671939>Console players who likely have next to no Steam library>Not only do they have to buy an expensive "console" they also have to buy all their games againthat's just a new generation for themnow at least there's the fact they can buy games from any generation + have them playable on future hardware
>>741640662I was so pissed I ended up getting an egpu for my existing laptop.
>>741672057>From any generationNobody wants to play your old ass pixelshit.
>>741671915the cube is a motherboard and a heatsink inside a tight fitting box and no wiggle rooma typical prebuilt is a motherboard attached by a few screws with other parts that don't like being moved like the cpu heatsink and gpu that have a fuckload of wiggle room
>>741672109not a problem bro
>>741672027>money stolenrefund saying it doesn't work on linux and they'll accept it no questions asked
>>741641570steam makes 30% on games. so dropping to $700 for the base model means they're having to sell an extra ~$1000 worth of games per system sold. yeah, nah.
>>741669479>NOOOOO ONLY STEAM IS ALLOWED TO HAVE SALES why are you like this?
>>741671771mac mini chads won. it can emulate all consoles upscaled to 4k or with royal shaders
It doesn't have to be a top-of-the-line computer, it just needs to be as good as the average computer on Steam. Do you really think the engineers at Valve haven't thought this through?
>>741672149>heatsink in a prebuilt>wiggle>don't like being movedBro work on your b8
>>741672293ok, then it needs to be $600 or less
>>741671506what are you trying to do with bazzite that is a pain?
>>741640982Lol not happening
>>741672293Of course they thought it through. They designed a system that you can't upgrade so you have to throw it out and buy the new one if you want a better machine. They somehow designed a console for PC users with its worst characteristic.
>>741651931Love that you used a DD gif, at least you're aware of your crippling mental retardation.
>>741671554https://www.geekompc.com/geekom-mini-air12-mini-pc/
lol
>>741672420next
>too expensive>Looks weird>Gotta learn new UI>Gotta purchase games on new storefrontAll reasons why normies will not buy in. If you have to explain a product, you've already failed with normies. This is an enthusiasts product, except enthusiasts just buy a normal PC. The only people buying this are tards with more money than sense, which is a much smaller demographic in 2026.
>>741672304Usually it's the gfx card that bricks in pre-builts. I doubt that's a huge issue with one that's about the Steam Box performance tier, though. 5090s die all the time from moving computer.
>>741672357Play games, Space marine 2 has buggy animations and doesn't work property, Elden Ring's online doesn't work, it's just annoying as shit having to troubleshoot games like this.
>>741668470Depends on the brand. Chinkware? Yes. It's still (usually) cheaper to build your own.
>>741672496No one cares about slopshit, how many fps does it hit refreshing /v/? It's the only thing you'll play anyway
>>741672057Console players have been building libraries for 3 generations thanks to backwards compatibility, you live in a fantasy land where technology sells product and not habit.
>>741641570if the starting price was $899 we would all be hyped lmao
70% of steam users have worse pc than steam machine according to valve. So lets stop pretending like its bad
>>741672617>Console players have been building libraries for 3 generations thanks to backwards compatibilitylet me see god of war 3 running on ps5
ok, but for a moment we really empowered queer folx, and that's what matters after all
>>741672689dyke, tranny and jeets all playing games on steam hardware having a great time
>>741640662I wonder if they announced this shit then got slammed by the meme non-sense so now they're just stuck with it.
>>741671265That isn't how PC works. You don't need a specific firmware version with exploits available to do whatever the fuck you want with a PC like is the case with PS5 and other consoles.Nobody is gonna buy a PC that is sold at a loss to play video games, that is literally going to be bought by everyone except the people playing video games - people playing video games are outnumbered 1000 to 1 at least. Realistically much more than that because a single business could buy thousands of these.
>>741672621bro y u lion
>>741642320>NOOOOOOOOOO THE BILLIONAIRE JUST CANT LOSE MONEY HE'LL MAKE BACK IN THE FUTURE ANYWAY THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS>THE CUSTOMER NEEDS TO TANK THE COST (even though no one is buying this shit except drones)valve are retardedgabe is retarded
>>741672594Bro stop hitting F5 like a caveman. It's not 2008 anymore. We have auto update now
>>741668470>and are often put together from used parts.You're an idiot if you think there's a large enough used PC parts market to supply the pre-built market. Use your brain.
>>741672512>5090s die all the time from moving computerThis is the first I’ve heard this but it makes sense. I’m moving soon and was just going to toss the whole tower in my car, thanks for reminding me that card is a brick and I should probably take it out first.
>>741672807>Nobody is gonna buy a PC that is sold at a loss to play video games, that is literally going to be bought by everyone except the people playing video games - people playing video games are outnumbered 1000 to 1 at least. Realistically much more than that because a single business could buy thousands of these.midwit take. only gamers need the excess power. they would still buy a $400 mac mini or windows shitbox if this was $600
>>741673195>everyone uses their parts until they break
>>741673350Doesn't everyone just throw their old parts into the local river when they upgrade?
>>741640662The price isn't actually far off what you'd pay for a comparable DIY, the problem is that nobody sane would DIY this build in 2026, if you're already paying over a grand then you might as well pay an extra 200 bucks and get an RX 9060 XT 16GB and you'd double your performance.
>>741640662More like RX 6600 performance, which is worse than the 3060 and base PS5
>>741640662good luck nigga.
>>741640662better hurry. the bottlenecks are worse than ever.
>>741640662so when this flops(and it will) will Gabe finally realize now one wants his hardware and maybe he'll go back to sticking to games?
>>741665870>Thank me later for doing your research for you.>1x16GBYou have no fucking clue what you re doing
>>741674179You do know the steambox is shipping with 1x16GB too right?
>>741640982To improve the software end of things so the Steam Machine (2028) is better/smoother operating.
>>741674171considering the steam deck flopped, I'm not sure they are getting the message...
>>741668176>I don't want to fuck around like a dork with shit I don't understand, because I'm not a trooncoder or all that techsavvyi am i just can't be fucked because i realized it's all just tinkertranny time wasting faggotry. >ooooh i'm tiinnnnkoooring i'm tinnnnkoooooringit's literally the dumbest, most pointless shit there is. i'd rather spend the time working on my car. transport has value, this isn't even hobbyism>tiinnnnnnkooooring
>>741640662>Refuse to make Half Life 3, Left for Dead 3, or Portal 3>Just continue to release meme hardware that nobody buysNo idea why any of you faggots were ever even remotely excited for this piece of shit.
why do people keep bringing up form factor, who the fuck cares if your pc is big or small? you don't move it around
>>741673297Yeah, because the most powerful GPUs in the world are in the hands of gamers not trillion dollar corporations. You sure are a very smart guy, but perhaps you should have consulted chatGPT on this one.
>>741669479PC parts are basically always rotating in and out of sales which is the appeal of building your own PC.
>>741677348If form factor isn't a consideration then you're just using off the shelf components. If it's just off the shelf components then what the fuck is a steam machine? Gabe playing tetris with newegg components? Why?
>>741640662nothing, this box is for normie streamer types>>741641092Altman did the RAM scam BECAUSE of this. I can explain:>Microsoft pours money into OpenAI because they are in trouble and MS needs foundational models for Copilot that aren't dogshit>Microsoft realizes that GPU inference is now competing with the Cloud Gaming paradigm that they are the best at>they think they can move everyone to Cloud Gaming if consoles are too expensive and PC components cost too much as well, infinite recurring revenue>Forces Altman to go and "promise to buy" all the RAM in the world for the next 5 years and shoot prices up>Micron exits consumer market>SK Hynix booked out to 2028>Sony forced to increase console prices due to BOM increase>Xbox unit economics are now negative but "everything is an Xbox" right?>The only competing console that could undercut Xbox Cloud Gaming is now over $1000, streaming your own games from a home computer is unaffordable now>Xbox "wins"the next few years will be absolutely brutal in the gaming industry and I'm glad I don't work in it desu
>>741677348imagine lan parties with this thing. Absolute kino.but then again, imagine.
>>741642639Nobody is the audience. Console players sure as shit aren't. Consumer spending is dropping like a rock across the board and people were already balking at a $600 PS5. Why the fuck would anybody be willing to buy a cube for $1300 as their entry point instead of a cheaper laptop to run some PC-exclusive games they've heard about like TF2 or a strategy/RTS game? They're not just going to buy a PC to play the exact same games they're playing on their console and there aren't that many AAA titles that NEED high specs that aren't on a console already, so why would they make the switch and for such a high price? This thing isn't an entry point in either specs or price, at best it's a travel option or a second PC to put in the living room.
>>741665395You can build a PC that runs better than the Steam Machine for the same price. >>741665178 is spot on. If you built a good PC in the 2020s with an xx80 or xx90 GPU this thing is a WASTE OF SPACE.
if the steam machine sucks so much tell me what to get insteadno I'm not buying a fucking ps5i have a steam deck and a switch 2
>>741640662this thing is built to bilk money out of retards based on brand allegiance and from some of these replies, it's gonna work
>>741653452you don't know how bad the ram crisis even isit's going to get even worse when backstock runs out
>>741640982Gaben's fat ass needs another yacht
>>741661280what did you buy
>>741680683anyone surprised by these prices is totally unaware of the state things.go take a look at sk hynix share price graph over past 5 years.
>>741640662>rtx 3060 performanceYou wish buddy.
>>741640662I think if your hardware is only good because "well RAM and SSD prices are out of control" then its bad hardware.In a year or two when prices settle down you'll be able to build a PC again for under $1000 that will make the Steam Machine 512gb single channel 16gb look like a complete meme joke.People just look at the here and now and don't think about the future,in 2024 and 2025, you could build a really good PC for cheap. Most smart people didn't wait and built a RTX 4000 or AMD 7000 Series machine.
>>741680807>nearly 60fps at ultraThat would have to be with all RT features off yeah?
>>741680559They wont tell you. Nobody will mention where to get good prebuilts
>>741640662its a rip off. people know this thing is cheap and cost like $599 in 2025 market conditions.
>>741640662>32GB of DDR5 RAM>$500>GPU that will last atleast 2 years>$800>2TB SSD>$500the steamcube is cheap as fuck tbfIn current era a 9800x3D is the cheapest part of any build
Don't forget>the normoid audience this is targeted to boots gabecube up>can't play ball game or COD because its running steamOS>sells gabecube and buys a ps5 pro for half the cost that can run normgroid games 3x better
>>741641043So it's comparable to the laptop I bought pre-covid? Oof.
wouldn't a laptop with a HDMI port be a even better form factor than the gabe cube?
>>741681286pretty much.as soon as they notice it can't run say cod modern warfare 4 at all but a ps5/xbox can, guess what they will do with the gabecube? sell it or bin it.
>>741681420Depends if you're hooking it up to a screen or not, and care about fan noise.
>>741680559Get a prebuilt and a UGREEN dock and use your deck as a Moonlight terminal to stream to your TV at 4K with almost zero latency.
>>741665831I wouldn't call it huge, but it's pretty much the only selling point. The only other reason someone would buy this is that it's made by Valve, out of pure fanboyism.
>>741669479theres always something on sale, child
>>7416811829800x3d is like 10x faster than the cube CPU.
>>741640982they cant wait when the 8gb vram hardware would be shit 2 years ago, let alone today, let alone 2 more years+ from now when the prices MAY start coming down.its DOA, and im glad, fuck gaben for not wanting to subsidize anything while buying a 500$ million dollar yacht, at least he could have allowed only people witn 10+ year old steam accs that are still very active to buy it
>>741672027>install Win11 on the SD card>boot that for CoD.
When is the last time valve had a win? Dota 2?
>>741681739It's still a $400 CPU but RAM+SSD is like $1200 alone
>>741642320holy goycattle
>>741645989>im not poor because i want to spend 1k$ (something a rich person doesnt even feel) on a cucked pc with 8gb vram gpu worse than hardware from literally 10 years ago so i can play games on medium at less than 60fps on 1080pbrutal
>>741681820You don't *have* to buy the fastest gaming CPU on the planet. You do realize that, right? Other options are available. There are multiple prebuilts and DIYs posted in this thread that are faster and cheaper than the cube.
in my collapsing formerly first world "country" this piece of shit is over 2k goy coupons lol
>>741642639>the box that cant play most games consolebabies want to play because of anticheat that costs double the price of the consoles and is worse in spec than most of them is for console players, actualyllol
>>741641570lmao this. they couldnt even lower the price to 999 to make it below that psychological breaking point. purely down to greed. and because of this greed they will make less money. short sighted greed. like youre not even saying they should sell it at a big loss like everyone else is doing and make up for it with game sales. no, just 50 dollars less. and they cant even do thatand goysloppers will defend it >>741642320>>741645794>>741645989
>>741673637I hate when this pic is shown. It is comparing DIY stuff from PC parts when the Steam Cube is using laptop parts which are worse that their PC equivalent.The cube has m2 2230 SSD for example
>>741650019>valve literally said they designed it with the average steam survey machine in mindbut if most people already have a similar machine, which they bought for cheaper since most bought it before the price hikes, why would they now spend x2 to buy the same machine? lmao
>>741682051Why wouldn't they compare it to diy parts? It's the whole point.
>>741681739There's not even a GPU that can bottleneck that CPU at this point, let alone the 7800X3D before it.
>>741681924>desktop consumer Zen 6 is releasing putting the iGPU out of commission replacing it with the latest generation of NPU to massively boost the CPUs performance during AI workloadsYou HAVE TO BE RETARDED for buying anything weaker since Zen 6 CPUs will be goggled up by all the jeets and techbros for AI, the performance leap in AI workloads between Zen 6 and anything that came before is estimated to be extremely massiveEven 10600 basic ass CPU will be sold for no less than $550 while being massively slower in gaming than a $400 X3D cpu fron current genDON'T BE A FUCKING WAITFAG
I love the smell of hypocrisy from Steamfags in social media.>Xbox, PS5 and Switch 2 prices increase because of component shortages>"LMAO CONSOLE LOSERS">Steam Deck prices increase because of the same reason>Steam Machine is overpriced as fuck because of the same reason>"It is because of the RAM shortages, it is not Gabe's fault"Damn hypocrites, and I say it considering I luckily bought a PC before the RAMpocalypse.
I cant wait for the day le based gaben dies of a heart attack and people finally accept valve is just the walmart of gaming.
>>741682217>wanting AI shit to be done on the CPU endGPU or bust.
>>741682217>You HAVE TO BE RETARDED for buying anything weakerLike Gabe Cube? Yeah, I agree.
>>741682265NPU doesn't make the AI shit work on the CPUIt makes the CPU works better with the GPU for AI shit and unlikethe iGPU that is simply not working when you have a dedicated and plugged GPU the NPU will work 24/7 It will be the first gen of consumer CPU actually doing shit for AI
>>741682174If they compared to diy in comparable form factor, the steam machine would look like a pretty good deal.This shit gets expensive really fast.
>>741682405The problem is SFF is already a niche so it just inflates the price for no reason.
>>741682405>This shit gets expensive really fast.Not at low TDP. With 7600 or whatever the fuck cheapo garbage desktop GPU, that is already faster than the Cube GPU mind you, you'd be only paying a little extra for the smaller case. No need to bother with water cooling and such.
>>741640662steam controller is ass, steam machine is ass, like valve, hate their hardware, simple ass
>muh ram shoartagesIt was never going to be cheap. The hype around deck made them overestimate the value of their products. Either that, or they're really, really bad at sourcing their parts and optimizing production costs.
>>741640662this is rx6600 performance though
It's weaker than a 3060.
itt: poors realizing their financial state
When if ever will we hear about sales numbers on this? I'm curious if it's going to do well or not.
>>741683029oh its gonna flop.“Consumers also reported intentions to pull back spending across most discretionary categories. The pullback was most pronounced among low-income consumers, though even higher-income consumers said they may cut back…”
>>741682987Time is a flat circle.
>>741642639Absolutely ass blasted OP. Mods pack it up. /thread
>>741640662You? nothing. Your console refugee friend who wanna migrate to PC playing on controller his whole life and have zero brain cells on how to do anything and have a TV that he watches his favorite sports team lose?. Literally EVERYTHING.These console war discussions are crazy... >Hey Achrualhy!!! you can get similar PC!! That's is like 15% stronger, just have collect the parts for it, build it, set it up, buy necessary peripherals and spend a week doing all that praying it works, instead of 1 bottom clicking and receiving your video game box some time tomorrow.
>>741643230Enthusiast would build their own small factor cubeBarely ny bigger case than gabe cube
>>741683724But it's not a cube....
>>741683612> just have collect the parts for it, build it, set it upPrebuilt $550, also faster than the cube >>741678738 lol>buy necessary peripheralsStill have to do this with the cube too btw.
>>741661004This must be the second time I've seen that shit advertised here. Its size means it melts, throttles to shit, or the fans scream like a jet engine. The cube is supposedly really quiet as most of it is one gigantic heatsink with fan.
>>741640662Shit like this is why I just bought a gaming PC.The next generation of consoles may not be arriving for quite some time if prices remain at this level, there is no viable price point they could be released at unless they're on a cloud gaming based subscription model.
>>741680807>ultra settings>cyberpunkWho the fuck cares about any of these settings with this sort of game in mind? Ultra is a fucking meme. Cyberpunk fucking sucks. Show me Pragmata.
>>741640982The bubble only applies to small start-ups that are overvalued. The major players will be fine because this is the direction the world is going in and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it outside of global uprising.You will own nothing and you won't have a choice.
>>741685353Watched a youtube review.CPU thermals at a toasty 97 degrees celsius. Reviewer doesn't even flinch. I guess this is the norm for SFF.
>over a grandbut /v/ told me it was going to kill consoles by being $300 due to being subsidized by steam game sales
>>741685593this. hey guys lets all invest in this "lehmans brothers" thing, its huge!
Didn't they try this shit before? Didn't they have the same exact problem?
>>741685721oh it probably will, since theres no longer any incentive for anyone to sell at a loss anymore. if anything i bet their kicking their own asses for thinking the steam machine WAS going to be 600 dollarydoos and keeping their price jumps modest when they could of just gone straight to 950 and still be "cheaper". kinda funny lol, some CEO's are gonna eat shit for that one
>>741685919sorry, to clarify, kill consoles. it being 1000 bucks means thats the floor now. when they thought they might have to compete with 600, they didnt, watch that shit explode price wise.
>>741685919I was originally thinking around 850-900 which would still be expensive but not this retarded
>>741640982>hold and waited for the AI bubble to popLMAO
>>741665831Who gives a fuck? The smaller form factor is a nice to have benefit. It's not like it's the size of an actual mini N100 x86 PC, it's a big cube. A mid-sized tower PC case is not a mainframe or server rack like Steamies would have you believe.
>>741665831if you're so hurt for space that it's a selling point then you have bigger issues
>>741665831Is it really though? In what house do you live where you don't have space to put a PC tower beside your desk or TV?
>>741686230The people who shill the Steambox's small size are leftists living in blue state shit holes like California where you pay $3000 a month in rent for a shoebox.
https://videocardz.com/newz/valve-steam-machine-ships-with-only-one-ddr5-ram-stickSTEAM CUC_KS SCAMMEDAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>741647454>the steam machine is retarded because for $700 more I can buy a more powerful pcthis must go hard if you're retarded
>>741661004I really like the steamcube's form factor. If it was $500 I'd buy one, just to have a portable machine for when I travel. But it's DOA at $1000.
>>741686368If you're traveling enough to need a computer where you go just get a lap top. Even with how small the steam box is do you really want to carry a fucking monitor and all the accessories?
>>741686267what's wrong with that? it's two slots now I can buy one 16gb stick for a total of 32gb. if it was 2x8gb I'd have to buy 2x16gb and then sell the original sticks. although if they were steam brand, I suppose I could keep them as a souvenir either way, I look forward to upgrading my ram. it'll be easy with how accessible and upgradeable the system is. can't wait to 3d print some custom face plates and get rgb installed
>>741686221its a selling point for people who dont have to settle for compromise, and WANT the smallest thing. the people who cant afford to get the tiniest thing they want already have and mostly likely, already own, the alternative: virtually any other laptop on earth.and guess what, those alternatives already have steam on them. this is the same shit as the steam deck. they couldnt care less if the steam machine fails if it convinces a couple of other companies to dump a shitload of fucking money and R@D into making "steam machine killers* (*owner will IMMEDIATELY put steam onto the steam machine killer). so what will this weird useless box do? inspire a bunch of computer companies to make better, smaller, cheaper steam machine killers at a grand cost of 0$ to valve, which will then have direct lines to valves bank account instantly installed, if not even pre-installed.insert list here of every "steam deck killer" that "killed the steam deck" and is twice is good, half as cheap, and better in every regardthen go to their websites page about it and notice almost every single one of them basically scream at you "steam supported".
>>741686509>I can buy one 16gb stick for a total of 32gb.If you're already adding cost on top of the base price just spent a little more and get a more complete rig.
>>741653582>Look bro you can make your own steam machine for cheaper you just have to make it a ticking timebomb
>>741641220It cost 30-40 bucks to ask a shop to build the parts for you
>>741681806Now dota 2 is also shit
Why were there so many of these retards on here? Like how braindead are people these days
>>741647454retards will look at this and think it's a good deal
The way I see it the Gabecube is basically a toy for people who already have a main gaming PC at their battlestation and want a secondary PC for the living room, and that audience can easily afford to drop a thousand bucks on a toy and won't care about the underpowered specs anyway because they can just stream over LAN from their main PC
Can we get a size / performance price for other SFF pcs?
>>741687426If you can afford a second PC you can afford a better second PC.
>>741687426I just use the steamlink. It does a good job if you don't have a dogshit network.
you fags are talking about price and form factor but not the fact that 16gb of ram is dogshit. just stop.
it's rather surreal that the prebuilts with similar pricepoints are just a better value than the gabecube
>>741687607if your running windows, yeah, but this is the steam machine
What if the argument is "I'm a retard, I want a mini-itx PREBUILD".So, what's your answer? I bet you can't find anything on the market that is equal or superior to the cheapest Steam Machine in that form factor with a dGPU.
>>741687426Personally, Sunshine + Moonlight on a nvidia shield or any other client hooked up on a living room PC fulfills 100% of the requirements for couch gaming and you're not performance bottlenecked.It would only be a problem if somebody wanted to game while you were using your PC.My brother is an absolute normie with fuck all knowledge about tech, and he managed to set it up by following the guide on Github:https://github.com/moonlight-stream/moonlight-docs/wiki/Setup-Guide
>>741687967actually they have, just ignore the fact its like 4 times the size and your good
>>741688251You can't just brush aside one of the parameters, it HAS to be a mini-itx prebuild, you're underestimating the average normie appeal to living room aesthetics of not wanting a full tower PC.So, do you have a mini-itx build, that is the same price or cheaper than the cheapest Steam Machine while also being at least as powerful as it?
>>741640982They already had it fully designed and probably started at least setting up the manufacturing process and planningAll of the money would go to waste if they didnt actually start making them at that point and now that they are made they need to be sold at high prices to make up for the money they spent so waiting until the prices go down would be a bad deal for valve
>>741640662>what's stopping mewife who doesn't want a giant ugly piece of gamer tech anywhere near her crate & barrel media console but could tolerate a 6 inch cube with a faux wood front panel
>>741640982They should've sold them at loss and gain immense goodwill and loyalty from the community, instead of buying yachts that costs hundreds of millions.
So, can you get a laptop with a 5060 or not?
>>741688530Everybody already uses steam they don't give a fuck about goodwill
>>741687967that one hp omen prebuilt, better gpu and cpu. if you lay it on its side it'll be about the same height as the cube.
>>741640662
>>741688618Now it's too wide and doesn't look nice with the rest of the furniture =(See >>741688302Don't get me wrong, I agree on the spec side of things, the Steam Machine is dogshit, but for a micro-itx prebuild?I've yet to find someone link something comparable that fulfills these normie parameters.
>>741688240I've tried using Sunshine+Moonlight on my Google TV streamer, but there's something fucked up about the Android audio stack that introduces a noticeable audio latency. I'm using my Deck instead now though and it works like a charm.
PS5 would probably be more stable with less hassle and same generation of games.
>>741669103And you get a free game!
>>741640662All of you retards are missing the real issue, if Valve has to price their machine like this it means that literally everything else coming out, consoles, prebuilts, phones are gonna be even higher.This is just the start, thank Sam Altman
>>741670207Not if you dont want it to overheat you cant
>>741673637>comparable DIYAlready show thats misleading because an actual 7600 is 20 to 30 percent more powerful, steambox is closer to a 6600
>>741689208DF numbers show it as being at approximately the midpoint between a 7600 and 6600.
>>741688919Sounds like a hardware issue (too slow).I use an nvidia shield (1st gen) and my brother has Formuler Z+ which he got for 50 bucks on sale.Both work flawlessly.
there are no video games worth playing that you cant play with a 15 year old gpu
>targets 4K 60FPS gaming using FSR 3 upscalingi thought the whole point of this thing is that it wouldn't be an upscaler box. wtf.
>>741665831Since it's not portable enough for on-the-go, the form factor barely matters. If you're using it at a desk, it completely doesn't matter. If you want to put it near a tv, it only somewhat matters.
>>741689364The point of it is that Gaben wants to buy another yacht.
>>741685353>>741685698Ryzen CPUs are designed to boost until they hit ~95CIt still has far better performance than the Steam Machine for a similar price, that's why it's being compared with it in benchmarks.
>>741689242>approximately the midpoint Yeah its clearly more comparable to a 6600 than a 7600
>>741688821Those 'normie parameters' belong to a nonexistent audience.
>>741640662you can pirate on the thing, and it has built in emulators ... try that with a playstation ;dd
>>741648609this thing is portable & runs everything console too - for a grand, that's a steal
>>741689994It's literally the audience Steam is catering to, that's what prebuilds are meant to be, you're arguing against the very existence of the Steam Machine...Any self respected "gamer" is going to either build his own HTPC, or just use a cheap Android TV box to stream their games, see >>741688240
>>741640662these specs are basically what im using and all my shit costed roughly 100$ cad
>>741642639Nigger everyone and their mom has a PC now. It's not 2005 anymore.
>>741690064>you can pirate on the thingNot as is you cant
>>741640662>So then what's stopping me from just building a budget pc that's similar in price but 3x the performance?reality.
>>741688251retard.
>>741640662My laptops i7-1370P and my desktop 5060ti over thunderbolt 4 mogs this thing
>>741691229THe laptop I bought four years ago mogs this thing.
>>741640662Still worth it
>>741640662>weaker than my 6 year old pcloland since then i upgraded to 4070ti supergreat card that i got half off
>>741640662>Worse than my 2080 SUPER PC from 7 years agololmao
>>741640662>So then what's stopping me from just building a budget pc that's similar in price but 3x the performance?It becoming 3x the price.
>>741694656No
>>741640982When will you people learn that AI is not going to pop. It's sticking around forever. There is no incentive for any of them to stop when the holy grail is replacing all the plebs entirely and swimming in superhuman power and intelligence.
>>741646126There's no fucking way you bought a 4070 Super prebuilt in 2026 for 1350 USD new. That card isn't even produced anymore, 4070 has been EOL since like January 2025. Stop making shit up you dumb retard.
all this hate seems inorganic, /v/ was also shitting on the deck at launch and I have yet to see people who regretted buying itthe deck, juste as the machine, was never intended to be the most powerful hardware on the market but everybody judge it like it was
>>741694690Then do it. Put together a machine that's 3x more powerful on pc part picker and post the price.
>this thread - my $3000 PC in current market value is more powerful than the steam box, fuck gaben for not eating half the cost!Actual brainlets.
>>741694983This board is loaded with salty consolefags and Timmy's paid shills who are dying for any excuse to shit on PC and Steam. Is the price great? No. But it's still at cost and at this point I, and many others, were expecting to to be $1200+.
>>741694983I regret buying it. Not because it's bad, but I don't really need it.
>>741695049Bold of you to assume these threads and posts are made by people who play on PC.
>>741695113I'm basically the opposite. I bought it because why the hell not, expecting it to be a minor little novelty for a bit and it ended up replacing my much more beefy desktop 95% of the time and made me stop using consoles entirely. I wish I had a deck as a kid, was basically the device I used to fantasize about on the playground.
>>741688428That’s the main selling point of the Steam Machine to me. It looks really good and would match the decor of anyone’s front room. Very Atari VCS like once you add the wood panel. It could replace your giant tower and streaming boxes. I got a Lian Li O11D case for my PC so it’d look decent in the front room.
>>741640982>why would they go through with releasing something no one will buy?contracts
>>741695016Not him, and 3x more powerful is pointless, but I did try my hand at making a better PC on PCPartpicker for entertainment purposes and I don't think it came out too bad considering the price. There are caveats though.The Kingston NV3 SSD is total dogshit (it does perform pretty good, though). The case is literally the cheapest garbage I could find. Only 1 memory stick, because buying 8+8 is FUCKING RETARDED. I don't know if I'm forgetting something, but this is reasonable as far as builds go. I wouldn't want hardware this low quality, but it will at least perform ok.
>>741665051Sff builds exist
>>741640982I’ve been told about this “bubble” for actual years now.
the smartest thing Gabe ever did was stop engaging with the community after he defended skyrim paid mods
>>741695560Definitely nowhere near a 3x, but those specs for $100 more isn't too bad.
>>741640662You cann't. Not at that size anyway. Which is the point. This isn't for people who want a giant desktop.
>>741694983>all this hate seems inorganichow quickly you forget that the rothchilds tried to sue valve and dailed
