Is this the most destructive remake ever made? It brought a bunch of modern fans who never played the original to be in constant war with the OG fans. FF7 discussion will never be the same again. RE4 is probably on par. Honestly fuck remakes.
>>741671268care full op youll make max jewd sad
>>741671268This is like one of the only remakes that isn't trying to replace the original nuRE is an actual disaster that has the demakes actively replacing the originals the new mainline games using demake continuity
>>741671460no it just shit all ovre legecy of orginal that much bettre FUCKING FAGGOT
>>741671502>instant baby rage
>>741671638you lost
>>741671460This, RE4 remake SUCKS
>>741671704No, I think I just won.
>>741671268>Destructive It's good on its own and it expands on the original source material. What more could you want? It's more a SEQUEL than anything.
>>741671704sebby was spitting facts here, idk how anyone could disagreehttps://youtube.com/shorts/Ipywn6h3Lw8?si=QoScBA6WQIk6pi6q
>>741671434People are attacking him for simply liking a game. That's how deranged the haters are. You have lost your marbles and are getting mad over other people getting to enjoy what you hate.>>741671460Exactly.
>>741671828We actually finally got some possible confirmation from Hamaguchi that AC is being retconned which actually a great improvement if true. The Remake series games are much more faithful to the original games than any of the other spinoff content.
>>741671268>Is this the most destructive remake ever made?oh boy lets start with a great thread! so much discussion fatigue over the most meaningless shit
lying fuck
>>741671460this is such a cope, nobody in 2026 is gonna play the 1997 version over the remake trilogy, let alone both
>>741672612He's right. The story follows the same themes, some changes here and there doesnt really change that. Cloud denial over Aerith is something it can easily be in the original.
>>741674550I'll see you when Cloud, Zack and Sephiroth vs. Genesis or Jenova is the final boss.
>>741674636Eh, ill see you when it doesnt happen i guess.
they're such a chore to play I don't even care.
>>741672612He's right though, both games so far only drastically go off the script at the end.
>>741674843>>741674830
>>741671268i tried playing this and i had to switch to the nigger to continue the story, so i stopped playing and uninstalled
>>741674929this>b-b-b-but hes one of the /v/ approved good onesnope fuck off unc, tnd
>>741671268It's the best example yet of not trying to reinvent the wheel All they had to do was remake it, not remaster (like the blanket ports across every system) or reboot (which is essentially what we have now)Anytime a book, movie, game, or show gets a revisit that (not so secretly 100%) prioritizes normies/ newcomers over fans, which are always just taken for granted and seen as a free bonus in the eyes of the corpos that sign off on it, they always piss off said fansI'm honestly watching-nascar-for-possible-crashes-tier interested in how the OoTR will go over?It's already discarding a possible cool style/ aesthetic for the ue plastic look, so who's to say they don't add VA, and all kinds of other unnecessary and dishonest "EnHaNcEmEnTs"
>>741674926I know you are autistic but let me explain.When Max says "its 95% the same" he explicitly means the story and themes about the game or "what the game is about". If you want to give a premise about what FFVII is and what FFVII remake is to someone, you'll get around 95% the same premise.The thing is, visiting rocket town later than what you did for the first time doesnt make it a change, like, to the premise it barely matters. In fact, disk 2 is the most botched part of the game so anything they do in Relevation is free game, as long as it is focused on Sephiroth, the weapons and meteor. And the whispers, the new "timelines" or lifestream dreams or whatever the fuck have always been considered as additions, not changes. The story doesnt change its focus from sephiroth and his plan to summon meteor, it adds to it. Cloud's denial, all those unrealized dreams / lifestream branches fuelling Sephiroth and the whispers no longer being of the planet its all about is supposed to be related to the themes of loss, denial, life and death, letting the past go and look at the future, and ephemerality vs eternity.Like, its not even that complicated.
The games really aren't any good. Who cares, to be honest what it does to opinions about the original.
>>741674926>can't even make his own argument>so autistic he takes everything as 100% literal and exact
>>741675429>>741674926I forgot to add, i think that, generally speaking, people want to say "there's no change" because the people that DO think there are changes they say it a negative way like "this is trash because there are changes".If you ask me, i think it is much simpler: FFVII and FFVIIR arent really different in terms of story and themes, but they are different in storytelling and plotting. Both games want to explore the cycle of life and loss/denial, but they do it in a different way, in its own context.
>>741672612At this point I can't tell if he's paid or genuinely retarded.Every single fucking scene and every aspect of the game was changed.Major plot points were altered.It's like they thought you didn't want to play a remake of ff7 and tried to subvert every expectation you had.
>>741671268The little man seeks to complain and blame others.The gentleman seeks to understanding and liking both.
>>741675724>Every single fucking scene and every aspect of the game was changed.Hyperbole and lying.90% of it is still the same.You don't actually want a remake, you want a mere remaster.
>>741675948name 1 faithful scene in the remake
>>741672612jesus christ, how many times are you going to post this e-celeb on /v/?you've already made 2 threads on him and forced him into a ff16 thread todaytake this e-celeb pissing match to twitter faggot
RE2 Remake is the most destructive remake as it is the cause for all other remakes.
>>741675992Tifa and Cloud promise flashback.
>>741675429> When Max says "its 95% the same" he explicitly means the story> Shinra bombs their own reactor for no fucking reason > everything revolving around the time jannies> all the useless new charactersI'm no mathematician but I'm sure that is well over a 5% difference>>741675883> just sit back and consoomno, 7R is a shit game but not because it doesn't follow the OG closely but because its a mediocre action jrpg mogged by Tales of Arise and is only treated like some kind of masterpiece because it has the label of FF7 on it.
>>741676039>Tifa and Cloud promise flashback.Seems it wasn't faithful eitherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T1Oh-q7-s
>>741676151You are a little man, aren't you?
>>741676175>19 subslooks like it
>>741671268You had 20 years to discuss the original game it's finally time to grow up
Why the fuck do FF7R fans sound like cult members?
>>741676536becaues they are
>>741671460This right here. Faggots shit on FF7R games, but happily lap up some half baked remake of other franchises while asking for more.SE is actually giving its customers something new and different, when they could have been lazy about the whole thing and treated you like retards who just want the same shit with better graphics. But then guess what? You cry that all you wanted was the same game with better graphics - like a retard.Rebirth expanded the world is such a remarkable way that no one else really attempts with “remakes”, and people still shit on it. I would say gamers are entitled and spoiled, but that wrong. They actually want something worse than what SE gave them, but they’re too dumb to realize that.
>>741676536That's FF7 fans in general.Final Fantasy fans as a whole are fucking weird, but FF7 fans are a whole other level of fucking weird.
>>741672093People are attacking him because he's a fucking SHILL. He's the biggest shill ever in the YT gaming community of e-celebs. I follow fighting games, this guy is NOTHING but a shill for brands.
>>741676610i sincerely hope you dont actually believe this
>>741676678people are attacking him because twitter is retarded, and diehard ff7 fans in general are psycho middle-aged adults who should know better than to act like psychos
>>741676610Funny how SE themselves consider these games failures if theyre giving their customers what they wanted. Also funny how there was such a design shift between the first and second games if they were giving their customers what they wanted
>>741674471They probably should play the OG to get the story right, and the pacing right.Funnily enough, the Remake trilogy is gonna age like shit because the pacing is all over the place, and you need to beat 3 games to get to the end, with a lot of padding involved...
>>741671268>a bunch of modern fans who never played the original to be in constant warThat's Silent Hill 2
Why are remake haters so insecure?
>>741677015they shudder at the thought of people playing a better version of ff7 over their 30 year old slop
>>741671268I think every remake has its haters.Especially when they change the 2D original into more realistic 3D. That's bound to happen because people are always looking to complain things.
>>741675106>I'm honestly watching-nascar-for-possible-crashes-tier interested in how the OoTR will go over?I'm terrified at this point. My heart dropped watching the trailer because I went from dead sure Nintendo would make sure to not fuck that up, to being confident that they've outsourced it to some slop studio that is doing shit they'd never approve of normally.
In 10 years the prospect of playing one 50 hour game over 3 bloated, padded fagged up nothing burgers for 200 hours, will just mean no talks about it at all.
>>741676871I think in the future we might discuss more about the characters and the side quests. Some think it is bloat but it really does open on the characters and the world more. A game this long needs an open mind to appreciate instead of fast playing from one slop to the next.I don't really chase the latest AAA slops that were releasing at the time so I can enjoy the slow burn of Rebirth.
>>741671268Rebirth went out of its way to appeal to shippers. There are so many Zack and Aerith scenes in there as well as Cloud and Aerith, Cloud and Tifa, Tifa and Aerith, Cloud and Red Xiii. There is something for everyone in here except someone who wants to make the story make any sort of sense.
>>741676536Like at least half the posts defending it here post like bots.
>>741671957What this nigga gonna do once the trilogy is over? His whole career has been hating on FF7R but once Revelation is out, what is he gonna do?
>>741676007Also, it's such a fucking corrosive insult to the fans who played the Gamecube remake and would have wanted a game with god tier lighting, fixed camera angles with beautiful composition, and refinements on the classic gameplay formula.
>>741671268>tfw. even falcomfags get an actual good remake instead of this garbageThis isn't fair.
>>741675948>went from 95% to 90%>but I meant 85% isn't that bad>look 80% of the original game is still there!>75% is still a majority you know70% of the game's original themes and scenes being there fits thematically ok?
>>741677015id say both fans and haters of the remakes have their fair share of insecure retards. if you like it you like it. same with hating it. no need to validate your opinion.
>>741677786Faggot Trantasy nigger really are jewsd
>>741677630His highest viewed vid is e33 so probably the next sandfall game and then shit on ff17 after. It's funny you search up any final fantasy and one of his yt shorts pops up
>>741677786>4chan is one personYou are retarded, anon
>>741677871your control over the english language is astonishing
>>741677580Well about characters, Rebirth completely destroyed Cid, at least his introduction. He might be a different character entirely. He's even censored because no no, you can show blood but not a cigarette!And in the future, we'll tell people to play the OG for 45h instead of 200h of open world slop with Ubi shit in it. It doesn't make sense to recommend the remakes because the fights are "better" ... It's a game that doesn't respect you and your time.
>>741677912Relax faggot I'm just doing some light trolling because remake shit flinging threads are all trash cans anyway
>>741677962>Let me tell you one instance of change>Haha remake ruinedYou need to grow up.Cid is still not a full character for now. Need to see in revelation.Honestly, if it is purely for rating issues, I dont mind it be changed. This shouldn't be square's fault no?But I also don't know how ratings really work. In XVI characters constantly throw fucks every second and it doesn't really make them more compelling.
>>741677492If you couldn't tell by the subscription based business model, normie/ graphicfag pandering, and troon and fag implied pandering, Nintendo has taken the retarded lizard brain corpo pillGoing with trends the get quick cash without thinking about ling term ramifications Assume the worst, that way, they either meet or exceed your expectations
>>741678108Also I have no idea how accurate it is because I don't speak Japanese, but I was told that Cid was made way more abusive in the OG localization when he was just more "tell it like it is" in the Japanese version. Apparently a lot of liberties were taken in general for the FF7 western localization?Again, not a first-hand account on my part, I don't know how true that is. I do know the calling Barret a retard in the stairway was localization only, though, and not in the Japanese script.
>>741678237There is youtube channel named Kotaku that went comparing the translations of original FF7.
>>741671268All I see are a bunch of FFVII OG purist manchildren throwing a hissy fit for over 10 years, because SE didn't make a 1:1 remake with slightly updated graphics (they would have rejected that remake as SOULLESS SLOP as well, because these people are not well).Just check out this moron seething over the vastly improved redesign of the Highwind nose art. kek
>>741678359Is this a troll, or is it a youtube with a name with no relation to the website of the same name?I'll check it out
>>741678413>>741671268>Just check out this moron seething over the vastly improved redesign of the Highwind nose art. kekforgot the jpg,
>>741671268What someone will do is make a youtube video of all the import story elements and we'll just tell everyone to avoid the games.
>>741678413The incessant seething seems to have ramped up, I think they are terrified of people enjoying Revelation. Like, the worst possible thing that could happen to them in their life is that this trilogy wraps up in a satisfying way to near universal acclaim and success. Pleases traditional fans and justifies the story tweaks.I've found social media accounts of people that have spent nearly 10 years screeching about these games with almost no engagements. I think they might actually kill themselves if Revelation is a big hit.I've honestly never seen this level of vidya derangement
>>741671704
>>741678783who fucking cares about the jap trailer?
>>741678463The redesign looks 100 times better. lolYou can never make these imbeciles happy, so it is best to just ignore them.
>>741678723>I've honestly never seen this level of vidya derangementMe neither. It is just a handful of people, but they are so deranged that they spend their entire day just seething about FF7R - or at least it seems that way. I have never seen anything like it.Take this idiot for example. I see him seething everywhere on X.
>>741678904>The redesign looks 100 times better. lolnot really but its surprisingly on the same level as the original but that doesn't undo all the DEI shit added to the other games
>>741678847>who the fuck cares about you ruining my narrativeNon-schizos.
>>741678463>no tattoos anymoreBased
>>741679317What tattoos?
>>741671704You forgot these 12+ million views.
>>741679165>undo all the DEI shit added to the other gamesnot that anon but this and all of the screencapslop is mostly bullshit. I didn't encounter any in your face wokery other the main crossdressing arc from the OG which is obviously comedic. I've got probably around 150 hours combined played.I think in order to find what the complaints are about, you need to sift through the crowds of NPCs and cherry pick. At that point I really don't care. I even saw Hamaguchi praising people for noticing LGBT inclusion in a post yesterday but I never encountered or looked for it.Of the NPCs that you actually have to engage with, most of the new ones suck, esp in Remake but they aren't so horrific that I'm uninstalling the game
>>741679460>"They're there but...just play the game chud!"
>>741671268Yeah, not to mention this game basically destroyed final fantasy as a whole.
>>741679597pirate it or pass it if you want, I don't care. All I'm saying is that I actually have played it and haven't witnessed the complaints of people who haven't played it. It's odd to just assume and run with criticism based of hearsay.On the overall wackiness and degeneracy of the OG FF7, I always interpreted the world as being in a Weimar near collapse state with the end of the world approaching. Midgar should actually be an anarchist freakshow hellscape
>>741678413>because SE didn't make a 1:1 remake with slightly updated graphicsIt's funny too because despite that being the case, it's hard to recommend newcomers to play the original over the remakes nowadays. I'm sure as hell never going back to the 97 game if I want to replay FF7.
>>741671268I am of the mind that you need to kys yourself op. Have a good night.
>>741671268Might be a problem if you're a 'tard only privy to surface-level discussion of either given subject. But if having to disseminate trash from genuine conversation is too hard for you, by all means, leave the internet.
Max is on stream sucking himself off on how self important he is about this and Twitter views rn
>>741678463Holy shit do they really?
>>741671268not when RE3 exists
>>741680802You are here seeking validations from 4chan.
The numbers unfortunately do not lie.After the rugpull that was remake nobody gave a fuck anymore. Revelation is going to do 1/2 of rebirths numbers which were already far below expectations.
>>741672093>People are attacking him for simply liking a game. That's how deranged the haters are. You have lost your marbles and are getting mad over other people getting to enjoy what you hate.i mean there's... other reasons people are attacking him...
For now on anytime I see the FF7 remake on my screen Im just gonna call it maximillianslop. Its the only remaining people who still cares about this remake anyways
>>741672093shills don't have opinions.
>>741678783Dont compare sales numbers of games
>>741671268>Is this the most destructive remake ever made?Only /v/boomers have a problem with it.
>>741679410On her legs
>>741671268Bro, it's not even a remake, lol. It's a sequel they falsely advertised as a remake before release.
>>741682145You mean the indents?
The guy that got famous for reacting to the game trailer is getting death threats from stalkers for enjoying the game.
>>741676678>>741681942>You can't like Remakebirth, mmkay? Otherwise you are SHILL
>>741682806everyone knows what max is
>>741671268no. the original is available on modern hardware easily, the most destructive probably has to go to SH2 in the Silent Hill HD collection. but this board is filled with literal children who have never played a truly bad game before so even slightly average AAA slop seems like a disaster to them.
>>741676610GOD DAMN ITPREACH BROTHERfuck these fucking clown ass /v/irgin, why the FUCK would you want a remake to not virtually be a new fucking game, fuck OFFFUCK OFF
>>741682825You're still obsessing about that e-celeb? It's been an entire day anon, who the fuck cares
>>741683069Clearly you do since you replied.
>>741683038yeah especially if the original is gonna be ported to everything too. that said I don't love remake or rebirth but at least this is a case of having three distinct things instead of one thing, and the same thing repeated but with GRAFIX.
>>741683069>Why are you so obsessed with me gringo?
>>741683095>you replied so it's importantFucking brainlet I swear
>>741683295Obsessed
>>741683317They are, yes. E-celeb dickriding and obsessing is retarded.
>>741671460Try searching Final Fantasy VII on Google. 90% of the content is already about the shitty remake. Entire generations will grow without knowing that the original existed, buried under the immense garbage dump that is Internet content (social media posts, wikis, youtube videos...). It is extremely sad, seeing one of the greatest games of all time being erased because of a pathetic cashgrab. I really wish that Square Enix would go bankrupt. They deserve it.
>>741676610>>741683038if you wanted something new, square couldve easily used their main FF team (which is currently on 7 remake) and made a new fucking final fantasy instead of spending 12 fucking years making 3 shitty botched demakes of FF7god you are fucking retards. The reason redditbirth FLOPPED is because nobody (except max shills) wanted 3 fucking 100+ hour bloated games of FF7 remakesSquare is dying and retards encouraging a 12 year remake is the exact reason why. Its genuinely a fucking financial disaster that square is in too deep
>>741683610FF Resonance is coming out and whilst it may just be a AA title it's probably going to be a better game than anything these sad fucks have offered us in like the last 15 years. I'm just worried rn that the story is going to be trash.
>>741671268its the most fucked up evil remake because it locked up the resources for three whole AAA budget games.all of that to remake a PS1 game in a worse way.we will never see something this retarded again.
>>741683610I would like a new game with 7R's combat, liked it more than the cooldown fest of FFXVI's, and XV's hold button to win. but yeah the remake being one project would've been fine, but taking a game that had really solid pacing and bloating it to the extreme over the course of a decade is way too much. but to pretend this is the only thing killing SE is just wrong I'm afraid, their other actual new mainline FF also undersold expectations remember, and they had to reboot DQXII's development because it was going so poorly before. lots of moneysinks going on at SE
>>741683038>why the FUCK would you want a remake to not virtually be a new fucking gameBecause you want it to be an actual fucking remake for starters. This isn't a movie remake where the whole point is to make it something visually new, the point is to bring the gameplay to modern audiences and add new content on top.Take your "oh only the story matters!" ideology and shove it up your ass.
>>741684120>I would like a new game with 7R's combatHopefully not a FF game. Dude this fucking real time FF shit has overstayed it's welcome. They never got it right anyway. You either go full send DMC or you don't go at all.
>>741671268This is true for any remake but at least with 7r, its pretty easy to convince people theyre two different games. And the remake series' reputation continues to get worse as time goes onI hope some day people wake up and realize the pc port is shit too
>>741684185>and add new content on top.60 hours of Yakuza busywork is not content I really care for. I stayed away from these games because they are a fucking mess.
>>741684316I'm not defending the 7 remakes, jackass.I mean actual content like a new dungeon and bosses like the previous FF remakes.
>>7416842347R turning ATB into a super meter is a fine compromise I think, but yeah SE's insistence on turning FF into an action game series has always struck me as odd. they're probably testing the waters with that HD2D title, going AA before committing to a full turn based AAA project.
Is it true that the VII remakes are optimized like shit?My PC meets the system requirements but I've read some reviews made by people with better specs than mine saying the game still stutters.I have shit, third world Internet so downloading a 100+GB game to find out it runs like shit would be extremely obnoxious to say the least. Attention grabbing Tifa picture
>>741684485It's very true.
>>741684485it ran fine on my machine but I have a 4080 and 7800X3D, so it better have ran fine. I did use mods to get it to run in ultrawide, one of the mod was a bunch of performance fixes IIRC so that might've fixed it.
>>741684506Unfortunate>>741684549Yeah... I am nowhere near that territory.I'll just replay the original or something instead.
>>741683787>we will never see something this retarded againOh, Anon There's always a new low to find in this post-gen 7, post gamergate world we live in
>>741671268I loved Remake and Rebirth, and I played OG in the 90's.Some dumb parts, but fun overall.
>>741671268This shit didn't need to be 3 full priced games released in the span of 7 years.The meta narrative and timeline shit was not nessecery.The games also derailed all FF7 discussion to shipfaggotry
>>741685543>The games also derailed all FF7 discussion to shipfaggotryYeah, no one was posting their waifu and ships from FF7 before Remake.
>>741685543I could have accepted TWO games but yes, splitting it into three was absolutely fucking retarded, and clearly unnecessary too considering how much padding they put into them.
>>741671268At least Aerith will be saved this time.
>>741674471>left: SOVL>right: soulless
>>741674471Zoomies won't, that's for sure, but they are less than human so who the fuck cares?
>>741675106>I'm honestly watching-nascar-for-possible-crashes-tier interested in how the OoTR will go over?I got goosebumps reading that. Fuck dude.
>>741676007They could have literally remade the game the same way they did with RE1 remake. (and also making the game a little bit harder let's face it the OG game was pretty easy maybe import the hard mode in the dreamcast ver.)
>>741686446Considering the only Final Fantasy fans are in the 30-45 age range and aging out, probably Square cares.
>>741685604They genuinely didn't. Both sides were peaceful until the remake came out.
>>741671268I played the original when I was 7, now I'm in my 30s and enjoy the remakes more
>>741686571RE1 never got a remake, the gamecube game is practically a ground up remaster of the PS1 game thats basically 1:1 to the original with new areas
>>741686652Why just lie about something literally everyone has experienced firsthand?
>>741686690>it's not a remake, it's just a remade version
>>741686690You don't understand what a remaster is
