I FUCKING KNEEL MR FOX I'M SORRY I EVER DOUBTED YOU
>>741808572>her face when she snow on my grave
>>741808572we were robbed 2 chapters kek nothing to look forward to next episode for snowchads
Susie is the fixable bad boy every girl wantsKris is the bad boy that girls think they want until he starts beating her leading her to drown herself in the river
>>741808572Oh Noelle the roaring knight your parents my parents our friends we'll make everyone shit their pants
>forced to abort Weird Route to continue the chapter>Noelle just starts dragging Kris in anywayHonestly thought I was gonna have to redo Chapter 4 for a minute.
>>741809470Aren't 6+7 being released together anyway?He seemed to imply Chapter 6 was gonna be short.
>>741808572How am I supposed to cheer for Suselle when I got tragic romance like this?!
Knock Gloobily
>>741808572I'm still trying to figure out whether you need the Sword Route for your "Pacifist" ending.Also, what is Side B?
>>741813418He said it was easy to make, probably because he doesn't have to make extra content for the weird route.
I HAVE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT I'm the guy who made a bunch of doomposts about the twisted route, claiming that the annoying dog and will just steal your ring. Now that it's all but confirmed that the weird route and the pure crystal are mutually exclusive I must apologize and kneel for my posts I'm sorry
Blue is he/him, respect his pronouns
>>741814706Side A is normal route, Side B is weird. Chapter 6 wont have a weird route because it none of the events in this chapter took place, so Chapter 7 picks back up on it with having a Weird route.
>all this doomfagging about cuck this ntr that>didn't see any of it because I did nothing but flirt with susie and exclude noelle from every activity and conversationskill issue
>>741808572honestly the weird route is the only thing keeping me aroundI have lost faith normal route will end in a satisfying way, we got no answers for anything yettoo bad chapter 6 will have nothing, so I hope both 6 and 7 are released together
>>741814781>Twisted Sword won't even change anything and is just a really good sword if you're doing violence instead of pacifist fightsProbably not the case with it having a Trance status but still
>>741814859Wait/v/ was just Not playing it correctly ?
>>741814781I thought I heard someone say that Noelle is slight affected by the Weird Route even if you fail the Proceed thing and continue on with the Normal route. Is that true? In which case aborted or semi-aborted Weird Route might still be a different thing.
>>741808572I used to be one of those people that was hoping that Kris was basically insight into what Chara would be like if raised in more normal conditions but Kris is such a cosmic plaything that I'm now perfectly satisfied with the Chara I got
GOSH KRIS I FORGOT YOU WERE THERE IM SORRY YOU HAD TO SEE SUSIE FUCK ME WITH HER STRAP ON
>>741814939Literally yes. You can have Kris and Susie ride flip noelle off while they're on the ferris wheel together and she's on the ground.
>>741814939I wonder if speedrunning the Noelle house section and cutting Noelle out of stuff changes things actually though...We'll need videos and text dumps.
>>741814967lol what is this face
>>741814859Your choices dont matter because susie will still want to be with noelle
>>741814962Post the others please
>>741808572Fucking Mew Mew is ridiculously hard without AoE healing items. Suggestions on how to beat the superboss?
>go to burgerpants on stage>everyone is laughing at him>talk to catty>"you should go">think this means I'm telling her to fuck off>actually means she'll go on stage with him>burgerpants will now get his cock destroyed by a BBW... happy... ending...?
>>741815163Can't you get unlimited AoE healing? In the Cafe.
Dumb take here, but it's late and I'm tired. Could the fact that the Weird Route skips Chapter 6 be because, in the normal route, we'll eventually find some other way to cross the lake?I always saw the Weird Route as a way of breaking the game's intended progression, like what we do back in Chapter 2. Maybe whatever's in the Shelter ends up being unnecessary, or maybe the Weird Route just bypasses it entirely.
>>741813342anon... stop proceeding once you start drowning
>>741815038Fucked so hard her eyes are popping out. Many such cases
Oh right it came outHow was the weird route? Anything interesting in common content?
>>741808572>Weird route is 5 minutes>No weird route in chapter 6Wtf
>>741815176you fucked it dude, catty isn't gonna fuck him. she thinks they're just friends making a band. you were supposed to pick Bratty, it ends better
>>741815251You get ONE Spincake. The fucking bitch hits like a truck when she starts throwing her bombs everywhere.
so what was the deal between ralsei and flowery? they act like they have met beforeit was funny to see ralsei get jealous/angry though
Krisbros... It's... It's over, isn't it?
>No route exit chimeYou're all getting duped. Your main file should be a continuation of Noelle failing to become more for Weird route A side.
>>741815315I'm telling you that you can get as many Shikacola's as you can carry from the Cafe, 80HP to everyone. I mean the Cafe in the Flower World, not in Castle Town.
>>741815370I have NEVER see a character as doomed as this bozo.I am NEAR CERTAIN he is literally already a corpse and has probably BEEN a corpse for some time.
>>741815332I assumed Flowery is Asgore's favorite flower, the one he sees the most as his "child," while Ralsei is an object tied to Asriel.So it makes sense that they seem to understand each other so easily, or at least have this feeling that they've shared something on a subconscious level.
what the fuck is this
>>741814962God, Noelle feels like a 2010's RPG Maker horror game MC stuck in the wrong narrative
>go through the festival doing things with susie>doesn't matter, forced suselle anyway>go into the dark world, fanfiction-tier writing on the darkners>stops several times just to have the flowers inexplicably try to help set up susie with noelle>susie is now acting exactly like noelle does when she's around susie (i.e. always fucking bringing her up)>stick through it to see what happens despite it just feeling off like some shitty deltatraveler fanfic>asgore gets kidnapped, not surprising>come out of the dark world, susie wants kris to walk her home>says she wants to talk about them>ohshit.jpg>did i misjudge toby? is he actually making her thoughts on kris and noelle semi-comple->"this isn't just our adventure anymore, we need to bring in noelle">leaves>oh...>kris just stands outside the closet>turns around>soul visibly crushed>come on here right after finishing the chapter>i apparently even missed a scene where susie outright says she was being a bitch to him out of jealousy because she liked noelle the whole fucking time apparentlyjesus fucking christ this is WORSE than bahamut lagoon somehow, what the fuck did kris do in that dream to make toby hate him so much
>>741815408THAT'S AOE??! fuck i'm retarded
>>741815265Speedrun into double suicide.
>>741815163I just cheated health and favsandwhiches because the fight was a shitty gimmick and the music sucked I hated itWorst part is I was only able to get one item cus I didn’t get enough pink coins
>>741815332Kris has been talking to the flowers for years. That's probably why Flowery has so much meta knowledge.
I know people are upset because it was short and we have to wait ch7But holy fuck ultra sexo Noelle
Susie and Noelle are just boring desuT. Someone who reads a lot of yuri
>>741815680Imagine her breaking your pelvis while making faces like that
>>741815505Asgores new fuckbuddy
>>741815570Rad, is it like that black screen scene at hospital?
>>741815680Noelle is so fucking interesting when shes not attached to Susie its unreal.
what Flowery says during the punches? "Jarude"?i haven't played it, just watching a friend
Burgerpants status?
>>741815548>scene where susie outright says she was being a bitch to him out of jealousy because she liked noelle the whole fucking time apparentlyAre you fucking serious?Holy fucking shit.This is 1945 Berlin's levels of over
>>741815265KINO Ben drowned>keep saying it
>>741808572I shat me selfAlso whats the best flower gear?
where we at
>>741815680I'm not head over heels for Noelle yet these insane faces she makes honestly makes he way more endearing to me than all the other characters, like she's more "real" I guess? I feel like I could watch her go mental for hours and not get bored
>>741815680To be honest, it was so intense, way more intense than I ever expected it to get, that compared to how bland the normal route felt, I'm actually pretty satisfied.I genuinely didn't think Toby would take it that far.
>>741815810Where the laughter stage
>>741815782this scene was the only thing that makes me any sort of excited for future DR contenttoby better not fumble it
>>741815505A representation of Rudy.
TOBY YOU FUCKING NIGGER WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT YOU DUMB GORILLA NIGGER I'M GONNA BE PUSHING MIDDLE AGE BY THE TIME YOU FINISH YOUR FUCKING TUMBLR RPG MAKER GAME STOP RELEASING FILLER SHIT AND ACTUALLY GET THE PLOT MOVING YOU STUPID KIKE CUNT
>>741815680>>741815713>I thought you were going to make me STRONGER?>KEEP>GOING>soul_hurt.mp3>soul_hurt.mp3>soul_hurt.mp3>soul_hurt.mp3
>>741815748No, its like the thorn ring scene on the couch but she's super into it because she's a psycho now, and than its a white screen into a CRT filter black screen to insert Chapter 7
I didn't get the picrel in OP and instead just got the "nothing changed" bit despite them being underwater, what did I do wrong? Was I not spamming proceed fast enough? I had a raging hard-on distracting me
Invest on Rudyknight stocks RIGHT FUCKING NOW
How has Kris not killed themselves yet?
>>741815782Holy shit that's hot, I wish entire game had scenes like this instead of them happening once every two chapters
If you abort the weird route in the lake and use the crystal in the dark world, it says you see Noelle smiling at you while holding flowers. Does that happen in normal if you don't give the crystal to Seam?I'm just wondering if an aborted weird route is even real. It feels like it's not. it never is. I feel like Noelle could literally go into a dark world and it wouldn't matter because you aborted the route and somehow she forgets everything.
Where do you encounter the Mantis and Bow Pot guy? Or are they not encounters? I can't tell if I recruited everyone. I'm pretty sure I'm right at the end.
>>741816065That’s how the prophecy ends
>>741814924the twisted sword is still worse than the black shard
The flowers felt like characters from an undertale fangameAnd NOT in a good way
>>741814967>couldn’t sleep the night before because of toriel and sans>gets forgotten about while trying to napthis actually hurt to read
>>741815978>Was I not spamming proceed fast enough?correct
>>741814730Not like there was any content for it in this chapter either.
>>741815548>NOTHING CHANGED>BECAUSE A NOELLE IS JUST A NOELLE>A SUSIE IS JUST A SUSIE>A KRIS IS JUST A KRIS
>>741815978You need to proceed through the white flashing screens. You should continue on the nothing changed route for weird route A though.
>>741815680>>741815812Burgerpants vibes to me, the expressions are kinda ugly but in a way that's purely complementary, you can't make those kinds of faces without feeling some true unbridled emotion
>>7418160041) Rudy collapsed this chapter. He was already accounted for.2) Rudy is collaborating with Asgore. Kidnapping him makes no sense.Sorry, RudyKnight is debunked.
I just realized there's no point for collecting Shadow Crystals in the Weird RouteI'm fighting Mew Mew right now but do you even get to go back to Castle Town to give it back to Shawn?
>>741815038Just a Noelle Thing.
So krusiebros, how you gonna hurt toby for not even giving you a soft letdown
>>741815810confusion
>>741816080There's no route change chime like usual. The proceed ending is a red herring to trick you into thinking we'll skip weird route in chapter 6.
>>741816205Who the fuck is shawn nigga
>>741815810Judging by this thread 2-3 depending on posterPersonally i did giga brain move and dropped this slop at begining of the second chapter
how the fuck do i get there?
>>741815548>i apparently even missed a scene where susie outright says she was being a bitch to him out of jealousy because she liked noelle the whole fucking time apparently.C'mon this can't be true...IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE. Susie HATED how the other saw her. In ch 1 she even says she thought Kris was hoping to have her expelled because she KNEW she was a problematic kid. just HOW could she hope to have someone love her just like that. If this is true, this is absurd character retcon. It's like toby was about to stop being whimpy lesbian cuck lover but then he thought twitter retards would hate him for showing a heterosexual relationship in 2026 game and quickly backtracked to yuri.
>>741816202>Rudy collapsed this chapter. He was already accounted for.And the knight was entirely absent until the very end, despite the fact it had all the time in the world to show up>Rudy is collaborating with Asgore. Kidnapping him makes no sense.This means nothing when Kris is a Gasterglowie right undee Asgore's nose and he's none the wiser
>>741815750>InterestingSnowgravechads know Noelle best because they are Noelles.
>>741816004>>741816202Yeh the only way Rudyknight works is if Asgore and Rudy are working together in some way, this chapter seems to completely dismantle that.Only way it could work is if the knight isn't one singular person, and several people are taking the mantle at different times... after all Holidays are full of surprises.
This game fucking sucks and I was right to assume that from the start lol. You can all admit the haters were right now.
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you
I WANT PORN OF ORYAND I WANT IT NOW
>>741815782Not gonna lie, this scene feels turbo cringe, maybe if it was just a bit shorter...
>>741816264Seam I forget lol the cat by Castle Town asking for the Shadow Crystals do you get back to him by the end of the normal route of chapter 5?
>>741816341toby forgot the whole thing happens over a week
>>741816313Keep going through the room, there are fans up top, one pushes things to the right, the other to the left.
>>741816085they aren't encountersprobably scrapped, a shame because their designs are cool and the mantis is sexo
>>741816237I'm fucking doubling down on cope until the endThere's still two chapters to goTHERE'S STILL HOPEGASTERINJECT COPIUM DIRECTLY INTO MY ASS
Is Berdly the only real friend that Kris has left?
>>741815393>weird route Athere is no weird route A, A is supposed to be normal route, sideB is weird route. you can datamine this. the "third" twisted sword route is just a slightly altered normal route.
>>741816369I admit it
Kris is made for ______
>>741816412the scene feels like a FNAF lore minigame only less mysterious because toby can't write worth a shit
>flowery tells susie about the battle menu and it gets played for a laugh>flowery cucks you out of the chance for ralsei to notice you're watching him
>>741816004rudyknight is dead, just rudy will be next chapter
>>741815482>Even in death he can't escape the absolute humiliation conga that's been forced on him. Gets cucked out of body, life and is 3rd wheel to everyone he cares about.
>>741816501suicide
>>741816483Can you actually craft it now?
>>741816472Berdly loves Noelle too
>>741815548I'll say it again, Bahamut Lagoon is far better by default because that gives its MC a happy ending and severely punishes those doing the cucking. There will be no such thing for Kris.
>>741816501suffering
>>741808572Begun the coping has
>>741816509>ralsei to notice you're watching himHe already knows, that's why he asks you to think about what Susie is doing
>>741815370>>741815482They're dead aren't they? Look at that rotting corpse skin
>>741815782imagine Chapter 7 side B is just an epilogue of the town finding kris and noelle's drowned bodies.
RudyKnight is dead. Turns out the most popular answer (DessKnight) is correct. Boring.
>>741816237>keeps teasing it despite susie considering herself as being with noelle now>throws in retcons to make susie look like a psycho lesbo bitch for no reason>then has the final shot hang on kris looking depressed as shit after susie tells him he needs to get noelle and fucks offthis shit is legitimately written to HURT and with toby being how he is we'll have no idea if that's on purpose or not until 6+7 comes out
>carol knight dead>rudy knight dead>noelle knight dead >krusie dead
>you have to buy the schizo items with pink coins. This is single handedly the worsr mechanic toby fox has thought of.
>>741816636it'll be something lame that he ripped off from other anime, movies, or twin peaks. in fact, probably an alternate town just like twin peaks the return lol
>>741815750Same as it ever was.
>>741816548No, expect that in chapter 6 though since you have all the crystals.
>>741816501Me. I'll save him from this garbage humiliation ritual simulator
Anyone else literally only in it for the weird route? It is so far more interesting than the "normal" way that there is no competition. perfectly illustrated by this filler chapter vs the gigakino 20 minutes on the lake
>>741815782I've only been playing the regular route and you're telling me I've been missing the good part of the game after all this time?
>>741816765>first person who actually cares about kris is some interdemensional entity What a cucked life
Fuck me man that got me so fucking hyped up and it was only fucking 3 minutes of mashing z.It was worth the wait.
>>741816781Now? Absolutely. I want everybody in Hometown to die.
>The audio that places when Kris & Noelle are baptizing themselves is called 'ch5_inversion_lake_chant'https://litter.catbox.moe/opy9n73zr4v2xktu.mp3
>forced Suselle scene even if you go out of your way to cuck Noelle>Susie becomes infatuated with Noelle all of the sudden>game is going out of it's way to keep pressing Suselle>Toby even dangles a little bit of hope in front of you right at the end before dealing the ultimate cuckblow>kris doesn't even get to react, he just turns around and leavesIt cannot possibly be more over than this. I knew the festival would be bad but this is a whole other level.I should've known Toby's yuri fetish would triumph over everything else in the end
>>741816650the worst thing about this is that twitter, reddit and tumblr delusional retards will shill it nonetheless and cry out loud to respect it despite being 3/10 of the fanbase, making you thing they're 9.5/10 of it and you're the only one wrong for wanting Kris x Susie. There's literally no hope for a better outcome.
>>741816781It's funny that any time Kris initiates anything by themselves; it leads to shit.The few actions you can take make things bearable or massively improve the experience.
If I were like 6.6% more schizo I would genuinely make some schizotheory about Susie being some kind of Antichrist figureI dunno man, being called "the dragon" by Gerson, the general Biblical imagery that permeates through the game, the way that damn near everyone has a magnetic attraction to her for no fucking reason to the point that her bully persona is nonsense, the way that her few detractors are automatically positioned as being in the wrong and straight up humiliated, it feels completely unnatural how everything is just magically bending over backwards for the sake of dinowaifu
FemKris-bros, my prediction was correct. This chapter did exactly nothing to confirm or deny it. We won't get jack until the very end.
>>741816781Prepare for disappointment, I say. You are waiting 5+ years for Chapter 7 and I bet Tobert will make it as anticlimactic as possible just to spite you.
>>741816483You mean if you get the thornring but abort it, it does have changes?
>>741808572>mfw pushing that nigger kris out of bed at the start of weird routei KNEW i was in for a GEM when this happened right at the startch.5 was mid overall, not worse than 3 though
>>741816747So now it's kinda confirmed you do need a third save file for the aborted weird route right since you can't even get the last shadow crystal on the weird route
>>741816369By chapter 5 I called that the pacing was dogshit, no excuse. feels good being right about this at least.
>>741816765>Cucks you and makes you drown in a lake Pshhhh...nothin personnel kid....
>>741816765honestly i think this is why all the suselle stuff this chapter didn't bother me that much. i think deep down, truly, i want to win the kris bowl.
>>741816981Chapter 5 feels like a fangame through and through with bits and pieces of decent game
I think that was my favorite chapter behind 2. A nice long one, though that's probably to counter balance that there simply won't be any darkworld exploration or enemy recruiting in 6 and 7, just cutscenes and plot battles.I doubt the "things between lightners and darkners" is going to get expanded on, but Asgore's deal with knowing the dark worlds will. Did Toby outright say that 6 and 7 are coming out as a bulk deal, or is that just something people are assuming?
>>741816962or the game is pretty much telling you that collecting shadow crystals for weird route was pointless the whole time unless you're going to abort it.
>>741816962There are two different aborted weird routes: one where Noelle is equipped with the ring, and where where she isn't. Honestly, I don't think either will matter.
>>741816781I'm definitely thinking Weird Route is for people who eventually beat the game and have a moment of... "I don't want this, I can make something better happen, I can reach a better result" Because Normal Route is giving off "THIS WILL NOT END WELL" vibes so heavily.
>>741816765....by making a mod that completely changes what happens
>people on twitter saying it "made them feel sick">multiple people saying it's the scariest thing they've seen in a game in yearsDo they think they actually drowned and that it wasn't a sex metaphor?
I now see that my rant about Snowgrave actually removing Noelle's inhibitions was right.Now on the other hand, you need to realize that if the thorn ring increasing trance makes it "easier" for Noelle to do things, the twisted sword lowering trance makes it harder for Kris to do things.Which can only really mean that there's a way to control Kris on the normal route as well.
>chapter 3 was boring filler saved only, and only by the knight reveal>make filler chapter but without the knight (or anything interesting)>it sucksHuh
>>741816781it's starting to feel like toby's decided to put all of his actual writing effort into the weird route while the normal route is dedicated to his yuri fetish & hitting kris with hammers
>>741817051>A nice long one, though that's probably to counter balance that there simply won't be any darkworld exploration or enemy recruiting in 6 and 7, just cutscenes and plot battles.nothing fucking happened, the plot moved an inch at best
>>741816870Wouldnt that be a good thing though? If some being from a level higher cared about you, wouldn't that be good news? Kris is a fag though, I wouldn't save his cuck ass, personally.
>>741809470she's going song of saya isn't she?
>>741816924I mean she outright shatters the fourth wall at one point in her very first scene
>>741817136knight does show up for 1 minute at the end
>>741816905I dont get it
>>741816765>Me. I'll save him from this garbage humiliation ritual simulatorLiterally, since they're basically a corpse? Kekkkk
>>741817076>"THIS WILL NOT END WELL" vibes so heavily.Did everything in Kris life decaying or being ripped away tip you off?
>Before chapter 5: Used to hate Kris and thought they were w whiny slimy bitch.>After chapter 5: Want to help Kris win and get better, their life sucks and everyone around them doesn't care about them.Funny how things change
>>741817120they unironically believe you killed them, hell even some retards on this website think that too despite the game clearly fucking telling you them dying is the abort failstate and the chapter 7 prompt is the one where they did cross the river alive.
>>741816945I know it is a very real possibility but a man can dream. At the very least I hope the moral of the story is not "you are bad and you should feel bad for doing this" like genocide, praying for some nuance.
>>741817054Spamton being an obligatory shadow crystal felt like the crystals were going to be part of it, also the crystal text in ch4>Noelle is close agaisnt you, whispering
>>741817268Speak for yourself. I hate him even more now
>>741817050There are deltarune fangames that are better than this chapter
>>741816924Either she is toby fox's waifu or you are onto something.
>>741817268At least kris has his gay goat bf still
>>741817268Kris is still working with the bad guy to cause the apocalypse. He's getting shit on because he's a villain.
I liked the gameplay and writing (except the festival stuff sadly) but damn are we still doing filler shit? It is god damn chapter 5 and we are not one step closer to anything besides vague hints
OUR HEROES... and that asshole Kris
>>741817172I....said in 6 and 7 there's just going to be plot stuff. Can you read?
>>741817316A world that deprives him of any happiness deserves to be destroyed
>>741817315and berdly!
>it's another "forced yurishit that makes no sense and is a complete detriment to the story as a whole that people pretend it's good simply because it's yuri" episode>againPlease just make it stop. I don't even hate dykes or anything. It's just shit. Please.
>>741816914Have to pander to japs, they love a good NTR.
Deltarune peaked with Chapter 2. The content, the discussion, everything. This will probably still be true even after the final chapter releases.
Does the Weird shit in this chapter come naturally or do you have to trigger flags?
>>741817268after what's happened i WANT to help kris but he refuses to let me anywaylike look dude i'm on your side we can work together and get your ass fucking dess within the week if we help each other, no need for this stealth bullshit i've had enough of these assholes
>>741817120people got "scared" on susie's empty prompt box last chapter, these people have never seen something "scary" in a game before and thought DR would be just a "safe"/cozy game
>>741808572So I assume shit will go down in Chapter 6. On the normal route Kris and Noelle will be around to help, but on the weird route they'll stay missing until chapter 7, making things much worse for the townspeople.
Aqussy
>>741816924>Some kind of antichrist figure>After all she's the dragonWell yeah.Susie is all but explicitly the fucking villain of the story, except she's been replaced by the Knight and is replacing Noelle.The Knight that has no dialogue.The Knight that doesn't have any personality (except chuuni posing of course).It seems silly to have a story where you adversary just kind of runs away all the time.While on the other hand, Susie is incredibly talkative about pretty much everything.
So, the Susie wank has to be intentional right, the game is selling you she is a tragic character yet she is getting everything
When is the Kris suicide happening?
pawfags won bigly this chapter
>>741817341everyone's mad there's no fucking plot stuff now bro. there's too many open plot threads to do nothing with an entire chapter
so how will they seal the chapter 6 fountain if kris has drowned?
>>741808572He wishes, he got booted off the grand council. We know this thanks to the recent drama with Yoko Taro and his posts on Twitter.
>>741816914I'm going to be honest (and cope) and say that it feels kind of similar to how the Weird Route aborts if you drown in the lake. People sliding into the roles they're supposed to go into, even if it makes no fucking sense. I'm curious if Chapter 6-7 will have more Krusie shit and if you keep hitting at it enough Susie has some sort of Brain Break "What the fuck is happening" moment. Maybe you need all the eggs/crystals for it though. Probably eggs, I'd guess.
>>741817418>Kris>helpingco-conspirator with the Knight btw
>Deltarune fans experiencing their first piece of dramatic fiction
>>741815505Assgore's ass getting gored by human BWC
>>741817472If he is lucky in next chapter. No one should be humiliated this badly lmao. But I'm betting on that it will double down instead, after all this was "happy" chapter according to toby.
just beat ch5. it looks like doomposters are raiding and spamming "filler" lmao, having actually played it it was kino besides the suselle cringe but there were plenty of chances to cuck noelle anyway. i liked aqua
>>741817317Yep.I mean in the announcement it literally says "THIS IS A FILLER CHAPTER BEFORE SHIT GETS REAL".
>>741817472Not soon enough.
>>741817508That's the funny part...
>>741817516>recent drama with Yoko Taro and his posts on Twitter.Rundown?
>>741816781i GENUINELY 100% believe that HIS fever dream was all about the weird route now, but something about that fever dream needed an "excuse" which the main route is, probably dreamed about prophecy being forcefully broken in a really fucked up way and needed to make up the whole regular boring prophecy thing otherwise breaking it would have zero impactby chapter 5, we already 100% broke the prophecy, since we skip chapter 6 and completely skip over fighting flowery as well, which is "supposed to happen"
>>741817470Yes. Susie who has nothing is getting literally everything because she was made into a main character and all her problems were instantly resolved rather than being fought for 8 chapters.
Bruh
>>741816924She's going to end up being some kind of Chara figure at the end of the game and directly talk to the player.Mocking us for thinking we could get together with them.Mark my words
>weird route is kino>making a custom outfit for Susie>the quill was actually a Super Paper Mario perspective shift gimmick>2D platforming with boss fights>Seth and Aqua sexo>Woody finally shows up>Ace Attorney miniboss>chapter boss is literally them using the power of friendship against you>Ralsei seething for most of the chapter>Ralsei gets his hat backI really loved a lot of the stuff in this chapter and seeing so many of you faggots seethe over it makes me wonder what you even liked about this game in the first place considering 95% of the game is and always has been like this
>>741808572>Normal Route>Weird (drown)>Weird (don’t drown)TwistedSwordbros… is it over?
>>741815482>>741815548Not even the DEAD can know peace from this faggotry.
>>741817507Okay, what does that have to do with my post or your reply to it?
Wondering why the chapters are so inconsistent in quality and writing direction? Toby Fox hasn't been in charge of making Deltarune since at least Chapter 3:1. "BeholdMaxine" is in the credits of the 10th anniversary battle ( https://ut10-battle.undertale.com/ ) and the creator of the Deltarune Chapter 1 mod "RIBBIT" that came out before chapters 3 and 42. The boss fight at the end of RIBBIT has you and Susie entering the large man-shaped figure MANOS like the Titan and entering it with your SOUL (https://youtu.be/yi_RvVfPt8g?t=18311s)3. The "EVERYNAME" bossfight features the 8 way gimmick 1:1 from the Gerson boss fight in Chapter 4 and the same bounce-back attacks too (https://youtu.be/yi_RvVfPt8g?t=14655s , https://youtu.be/yi_RvVfPt8g?t=14635s)4. The "EVERYNAME" bossfight features the same cyan soul Omega Flowey attack that's in Chapter 5, complete with the same broken graze hitbox (https://youtu.be/yi_RvVfPt8g?t=14933s )5. Mettaton/Lancer enters battle with made up stats versus another monster in the same way Flowery does in Chapter 5 (https://youtu.be/yi_RvVfPt8g?t=12527s)6. There's a hackneyed joke about the Genocide run in the EVERYNAME fight in the same way as the "pacifist root" gag in Chapter 5 ( https://youtu.be/yi_RvVfPt8g?t=14855s )7. The EVERYNAME boss fight revolves around him mispronouncing the names of Undertale characters and he transforms into Flowey which would be "Flowery"There's probably more similarities with Ch 3+4+5 and Undertale Yellow ("Spasco" in the Undertale 10th anniversary credits) and TS!Underswap ("colinator27" in the Undertale 10th anniversary credits) but there's nothing as definitive (the Justice character is a cowboy like Clover, but that's not really proof of anything, and I haven't played TS!Underswap or Undertale Yellow enough to notice any other similarities)Also there's no way Chapters 3+4 were really delayed for "game_change" it was switch 2
>>741817642No, his dream was about Susie and Noelle having lesbian sex.
>>741817470Even way before she was revealed to be sympathetic for her struggles, she gets at least 3 characters to be obsessed with her, despite doing not to earn that respect and being presented as a problematic bully anyways. What do you expect
>>741817537Toby will continue to sprinkle shipbait until the very end to fuel fake discussion and generate more fanart and buzz, but the yuri train has no breaks nowThe transbians are at the wheel and will never let go
Excellent chapter although the ending was not a satisfying cliffhanger, just Susie giving in to delusion.Speaking of delusional, anyone who doesn't believe in the weird route is turning the player into gaster is just wrong, drowning Kris and Noelle in the lake Dess was drowned in just to see what happens is insane, actual inhuman shit
>lives with a whore mom>dad is a cuck>brother is in college doing and fucking Molly>his new best friend is sidelining him to scizzor with his childhood friend
>>741817403i dunnochapter 3 tennaposting was pretty goodit only feels like ass in retrospect.
>>741817726twisted sword is a red herring that will give you the illusion that it will change the normal route.
>>741808572Where did all the agency from chapter 3 and 4 go? Why are we just jerking around town? Why is this a filler chapter in the an episodic release format where we have to wait for years for every drop of content. Am I just supposed to so-yface at the selfreferential humor and go fuck myself? Because thats what this feels like.
>>741815482>>741817740pretty much a corpse animated just by residual DT
>>741817741>cutscenes and PLOT BATTLES>the fucking plot barely progressed, everyone's main complaintfuck off if you're gonna pretend you don't understand
>>741817120>and that it wasn't a sex metaphor?lollmao, even
>YELLOWnigga is a cowboy>tall>utterly incompetent but well-meaning>mispells/mispronounces shitUndertale yellowbros, how likely is that Toby based him on Starlo?
>>741817470We told you she was Toby's Vriska, dog. We told you.
>Yuri is the highest form of literature. The lesbian romance? The handholding? The trials and the tribulations? Peak fiction. >BUT. That's only one part of it. to truly appreciate it you need NTR. Watching the girl you like get swept away by your middle school bully while you just sit there in your chair helplessly. Absolutely amazing. Suselle is canon because I wanted to combine the ultimate highs of romance with the agonizing despair of a romantic cuckoldry sub-plot. it's the perfect narrative cocktail. >Look forward to chapter 6 in 2029!
>>741817689i only disliked the painfully forced suselle and the disappointing secret boss (by FAR the worst we got so far), rest ranged from ok to pretty good, i thought i'd hate flowery at first too but he's the man
Kris shippers got double cucked this episode.he dies alone
>>741817754meds schizo
I can't remember anymore. Had we already seen these faces before? Are they new? They look like edits that had been made before the chapter lol
>>741816935>FemKris-bros, my prediction was correct. This chapter did exactly nothing to confirm or deny it.I'd say the Aqua/Kris parallel lean towards it.
>>741808572Is there any good music rips yet? I've only just began chapter 4, no intention to rush. Just curious if there are any good new tracks. Hope everyone is enjoying so far
>>741817547No joke, everytime I see people losing their shit over weird route I think of this image exactly LMAO
>>741817658Berdly will save Kris in chapter 6
>>741817836Can you please read me what this sentence here says?>>741817051>to counter balance that there simply won't be any darkworld exploration or enemy recruiting in 6 and 7, just cutscenes and plot battles.
>>741815482Deltatroon turning into yet another indie game about suicide world be fitting
>everyone, from plotfags to characterfags to romancefags got the big L>except for susie&noelle, which noone fucking likes>you&noelle locked in but given a fat "under construction" middle finger>more gayshit, kekkening, and all around bad vibesMy brothers in Christ I'm declaring it over
>>741817642Looking forward to Time Collapsed Side B Chapter 7
Where are those last 2 foxes lol
>>741817859>i thought i'd hate flowery at first too but he's the manhe's the ultimate brohe just wanted asgore to be happy
>>741815482>all the memes of Deltarune ending like Persona 3 are about to become trueFucking insane
is there a point doing that weird aborted last minute snowgrave? does it changes anything?
>>741817157I wonder what all this visceral and brutal treatment of kris from toby will amount to. It looks like he might snap in both routes at this point. Never have I seen a character that is explicitly not (you) be fucked over by everyone constantly for no reason at all.
>>741815780>Are you fucking serious?I found this screencap but I don't have the energy to go and take any myself.
>>741817410The safe/cozy aspect is precisely why it's scary. Scary things are only scary if they have something to contrast them.
why was the secret boss Mew Mew it feels so random and completely out of theme with the other bosses
>>741817965Twisted sword, may be important
>>741817754>Toby Fox hasn't been in charge of making the gameToby Fox is explicitly in charge of making the game and literally everything goes through him and his crinkled broken hands. Which slows everything down.
>>741817904We got cucked out of a Berdly date. it's over.
>>741817997How does he compose music if he has broken hands
>>741816781I sure am. While I've heard that this chapter was boring and filler, the Weird Route has been the mkst engaging part of this game, and the one that offers the most substantial changes. I love it!
We never did get that download link, did we? Where is it?
>>741817995what does the twisted sword do?
>>741817990M-Maybe she was jealous of Noelle...?
>>741817784>Whoever doesn't think the weird route is turning the player into GasterThis is an insane, stupid fucking thing that nobody except yourself has ever said and I think that nobody said it because it's fucking stupid.
I was expecting this chapter to be harder than 4 but it was easier than 1.
>>741817970questionisnt kris technically a toby fox self insert
>>741817995Yehab ut that's chapter 2, I meant begging noelle to stop in chapter 5 and getting back to right before the dark world
>Chapter 7 Weird route>cuts to graveyard with Kris and Noelle tombstones>Susie is completely in shambles>desperately goes to the DW to tell Ralsei to fucking do anything>just spawn a fucking fountain and have DW versions of them like with Gerson, she is just hopeless and desperate>Ralsei probably does something that involves a self sacrifice to do it>the idea goes completely wrong as Kris and Noelle were already corrupted beyond repair, spawning in a literal hell spawn angel or titan>10 minutes scene of it just killing everyone in the DW>breaks into the real world and kills everyone there, no survivors>long ass monologue as the screen goes to black and your game breaks>possible to play as Susie and kill the hell spawn, causing an ending where she does something to reset the world back to the start and it loops all over again
>>741818041UnknownWhen equipped reduced Trance, opposite of ThornRingMay give Kris full agency?
>>741817120I also noticed that and I'm a little stunned that this website of all places isn't freaking out over it moreI guess after "The Rose" nothing was off limits
>>741818039No point to playing this garbage anymore.
>>741817472Uh, now? Drowning in a lake usually kills you
anyone have a screenshot of noelle saying "i want that"
I can't wait for the part where asgore dies in chapter 7 and kris says: "I LOVED MY BIG GAY DEAD DAD"
>>741818041Trance down. The thorn ring has the opposite effect which puts Noelle under our control enough to practically let her kill herself. Giving Kris more autonomy, it has to mean something.
>>741818041Nothing. Look, Toby is a hack but he's not going to dangle instructions all the way back in chapter 2 to get some mythical good ending. It's a red herring, nothing more.
>>741817658Dude, there is not fucking way. Toby fucking died soon after ch3+4 dropped, ch5 is purely a product of his shitty team
>>741817901Fav tracks in Ch.5 are:Flower manRunning skyCutie Mew Mew Magic
>>741815482If Kris was a corpse how the fuck did Toriel or anyone at school not notice?
>>741818119
Anons, when I kept making comments predicting the worst of the worst for chapter 5 (aka no knight reveal, snowgrave not being continued, bad secret boss, no extra shadowcrystal lore etc.) I was joking, I didn't expect Toby to ACTUALLY fuck it up this badly.
>She was used upThe Thorn Ring>You were used upKris' death in the lake>Screen cutting to black in the minigameInsert Chapter 7 Side-B>Kris returning on his ownThe Player returns with the Vessel we obtain during the good ending of Chapter 7 to end the whole possession thing. we then go back to Chapter 5 to PROCEED>Reuniting with Susie and RalseiWe essentially skinsuit Kris and lie to Susie's face about where Noelle went. We hop into the Dark World, make the Twisted Sword, and that's when we murder Susie and Ralsei.>The dungeon encounterThis shows mini Kris killing a bunch of enemies, which is meant to represent us, the Player, now massacring every Darkner there is to build our Love
How ch6 hopefully ends
>>741815482>Kris is turning greyLiterally what does that mean?That he colors himself yellow every morning like a cowboy constantly doing a chinese impression?
>>741808572Do we have the face sprites datamined? I need to see what this expression is supposed to be when the screen gets fucked.
>>741817843Do you think a woman screaming your name and telling you to keep going and begging you not to let you go is just an innocent misunderstanding
>>741817925This.
>>741817970Deltarune is a piece of NTR fiction, ala Bahamut Lagoon. Read up:https://ontlogy.wordpress.com/2020/07/18/a-look-at-bahamut-lagoon-square-enixs-greatest-ntr-masterpiece/
>>741817120>Do they think they actually drownedIt’s a Xenoblade 1 reference since Toby is a hack and he’s also a Nintendo super shill which is why all the deltarune stuff has been announced on Nintendo recently.
>>741817120>sex metaphorOf course the fried coomerbrain is the one browsing twitter and than coming on here to complain about it.
Kris will be revealed female and Berdly will save her and fuck FemKris.
>Gaster helps you by speeding the process to beat the Knight, so he can intervene>Gaster didn't stop them from drowningGaster approves it
>>741818041Reduces trance, making it harder for Kris to do anything. (Represented by doubling TP costs).
The weird route is the best part about this game honestly
>>741818195He's turning green, not grey. He is LITERALLY rotting without the SOUL. And near instantly recovers once it's back in.(Also my theory was totally right he constantly ate when SOULless to keep his HP up)
>>741818031Why didn't they swim? Were they stupid?
>>741815812This face in particular is fucking haunting me. Just the unbridled derangement on her face.it's as the other anon say, Noelle is so god damn interesting whenever Susie is not around. Kris and Noelle are genuinely the two best characters in the game, but only so far as while Susie gets told to fuck off and eat shit.
>>741818092This doesn't line up with the Sword Route which is 100% correct about the Weird Route up to this point.
>wait a year for a chapter>it has 7 minutes worth of story development I really like the game but this chapter was dog
>>741818241Gaster dont give a fuck, this is just another ending for him while he sits back and watches it like a tv show. He'll just restart it and try again.
Did I miss a chapter? Susie now has a crush on Noelle for no reason I guess?
>>741817551motherfuckers will read through a whole hour's worth of suselle content (and several other hours of filler) and think "haha i cucked noelle because i rode the ferris wheel with susie gottem"
>>741817120bro its a fucking pixel game how tf are you feeling sick or scared from ityeh is a good scene it gave me chillsbut feeling sick?? come on now
>>741818172excellent>>741818257>self-nerfthere's no way this exists for no reason, right?
>>741818196We do but I saw nothing like this for now, it's late here so I'll check later.
I wonder if Toby hates Susie.On the surface it feels like everything is going her way, but->Best friend is actually working with the enemy>"Girlfriend" is using her as replacement goldfish and don't care about her in the self-actualization route>Toriel, her emale role model is revealed to be a drunken whore >Gerson, her father substitute, was dead all along>Flowery, which she kinda appreciated, dies due to the Knight>All encounters with the Knight reinforce her helplessness>All her remaining relationships are Darkners that will disappear once the final fountain is sealedI'm half-convinced Suselle exist for some emotional pain down the line.
>Undertale has multiple canon gay ships>earlier chapters of Deltarune have yuri and other gay ships>even the fucking Earthbound Halloween Hack has Dr. Andonuts being a repressed gay guyLiterally how fucking mentally retarded do you have to be to have convinced yourself that there somehow WOULDN'T be gay shit in the fifth chapter of this game that has had gay shit up until this point? Are you all unironically tranny-tier detached from reality? Did you play chapter 2? How the fuck are you shocked by Suselle at this point?
>>741818257Trance is the players influence on the characters, not the other way around
did toby fox pick up co-writers? would make this awful chapter make more sense
Anyone else find it weird how both Seam and Asgore drop the "very very interesting" meme line?
What the fuck is Miku saying in Mad Mew Mew's fight? It splits between english and japanese, I can make out "she's saving the day, kimi tasukete" and Miku saying "she's the cutest in the world" in japanese followed by "she's here to save you." But the background music is too loud to make most of it out.
>>741818208>Do you think a woman screaming your name and telling you to keep going and begging you not to let you go is just an innocent misunderstandingI'm a fisherman and that bitch is a siren
>>741818164I mean at one point Susie tells Kris they sleep like a zombie But maybe Noelle is being literal and people just refuse to realize whats happening to Kris
>>741818214The difference is that Deltarune won't end with Susie getting executed and Noelle having a god scream in her mind 24/7 for the rest of her life, sadly.
>>741818034Composing is something you can definitely do without paper or an instrument.
>>741817992well Mew Mew was in Asgore's store so.
>>741816390They'll fuck on Kris's grave at the end of the game.
>>741816924My theory for awhile now is that Susie is the main character and she has some kind of subconscious control over the game's narrative. Other characters can't defy Susie, Noelle is ridiculously attracted to her, and the dark world is basically one giant playground where Susie gets to be a badass hero. She gets whatever she wants and she may, whether she knows it or not, be forcing the world into an everlasting loop just like she tells Gerson she would.Your choices don't matter.This is Susie's world.
>>741818297We actually just broke Noelle. She snapped. This is the kind of writing that Toby is good at, not this Yuri bullshit. Chapter 7 will be very, very interesting.
>>741818323>Drastically weakens Kris during the inevitable betrayal showdown.
>>741817120Deltarune fans are a fucking wild breed, man
Weird Route is the only route for people with self respect. You are breaking the limits of the world and telling 'Your choices don't matter' to eat shit and DIE. You kill anyone in your way to achieve self actualization. Literally the most based path you can possibly take. But some people wanna play third wheel to bootleg Undyne and Alphys.
>ProsAquaSecret BossWeird RouteI liked the sidescroller parts >ConsLiterally fucking everything else
>>741815680Sunibee Noelle is now canon
>>741818239Nope. Leftists writers would never treat a female character like this. Kris is a man.
>>741818071>Plays piano>Mother is religiously Christian (believes in sin)>Friends with Andrew Hussie (Noelle Holiday)Yeah.
[PROCEED]chads win again!
>>741816924>the way that her few detractors are automatically positioned as being in the wrong and straight up humiliatedit hurts
>Kris almost gets cucked to fucking death in the spawn of a single day>picks up seeds from Yellow flower>seeds that have many warnings on the packaging>chara killed himself with poisonous flowers in undertaleSomeone is going to die
Does the whole Oersted story still work when you drag it out this much? I’m starting to lean less on an ironic “Oersted did nothing wrong” with Deltarune and more towards “Sure Kris, let’s torch it all.” Is that the point maybe? See how miserable and on a track you can make this kid’s life before you start rooting for the school shooter?
>>741818329Your forgot>releases on Yuri day during Pride month
>>741818448The game is really short so everyone is doing both paths anyway.
>>741818417That isnt true because we murder Susie in the Weird Route as foreshadowed by the Sword Route. Do you people play the game?
>>741816781>Anyone else literally only in it for the weird route?Kind of.The main route still interests me in a lot of ways. I still obviously want to get all the answers and see what's planned.But the Weird Route is definitely more interesting than that (as well as the Gaster shit going on in the background).
>>741818039here u gohttps://1337x.to/torrent/6671700/DELTARUNE-Chapter-1-5/
I wasn't feeling Flowery but he redeemed himself last minuteFly high big guy
>>741818164>TorielRemember end of chapter 4? There's your answer
>>741818498there is no plot or theme out of reach when toby fox wants to rip something off
Maybe if Kris is lucky Noelle and Susie will adopt him as their dog and let him sleep outside in the doghouse
>>741818451>Secret BossLiterally how? This was the most disappointing and horrible secret boss so far. Actually, it's the only straight up BAD secret boss. Awful music, cringy fight and I could go on.>Weird RouteSure if being denied a chapter worth of content is considered a pro.
>>741818538>tfw the fight and aftermath was so good the character went from meh to kino
>>741818509Im not lmao. No shot am I playing that cuckold simulator that is the normal path. I want to kill these annoying freaks
>>741818151Oh, I am sure that ch5, that had toby's dear yuri ship, had none of his involvement at all, yeah
>>741818330Raising trance lowers TP costs. So lowering it doubles them.Noelle can only kill someone with trance, because it's easier for her to do anything.Lowering trance would simply reduce Kris to some kind of worm who can't do anything.
>>741818538the voice clips did it for me
>>741815782The entire drowning scene felt EXTREMELY sexual to me and I hope I'm not the only one.
>>741816237I'm going to lrn2code and use AI to make my own fucking ending. That's what the game is shaping up to be anyway, right? I am a GOD (well, okay, a demiurge) that controls the SOUL. I can alter reality however I goddamn well please. Krusie WILL be canon, I am NOT leaving my boy without getting that purple dragon puss.
>>741818492>Someone is going to diecan't wait to find out in 9-18 months when we get the next two hours of content
>>741817843>>741818236>>741818432>asks Kris to do something crazy>remarks that they both always wanted to know what was on the other side of the lake ("first time")>sensually begs Kris to say proceed>keeps begging him to do it while yelling Kris's name over and overYou cannot be this dense
>>741815482We Five Nights at Freddys now?
Now that the dust has settledCHAPTER RANKING:1>5>2>4>3FINAL BOSS RANKING:FLOWERY>KING>TITAN>QUEEN>TENNASECRET BOSS RANKING:KNIGHT>MEW>JEVIL>SPAMTON>GERSON
>>741818538i warmed up to him a lot even before this but that sealed the deal for me, all the flowers are pretty good honestly
>>741816914>Toby's yuri fetishIt's not just a yuri fetish, Toby clearly has an NTR fetish as well.
>>741817843>>741818236>what is metaphor>what is allegoryYou have to be trolling. Do you honestly think every scene has as literal as is presented?Why do so many people in the Deltarune community take everything SO literally? It's like a pathological aversion to imagination.
>>741818329The Jew does Jew things, and the goyim once again prove they are nothing but cattle.
>>741818214It would be based if the message was that the only way to escape getting cucked is to break reality itself.
>>741818612Do like Kris and sleep through it. The Flower World is worth seeing.
>>741817076>flip witch forbidden sex hex is a genuanely good metroidwaniaThis is true though
Kriselletards and Krisissies on suicide watch
okay so where do i go to use the pink coin keyi went back and got it as soon as the door appeared, is the boss maybe just past that point or something? feels like it wouldn't be
>>741818510I think the Sword route doesn't have anything to do with Deltarune anymoreLike the Weird route is off doing its own thing not really killing the entirely of Hometown
>>741818301i fail to remember the part in the sword minigame where you and the white deer glitch through the water to cross it
Reply with when Ch.6 is coming out
I can't fucking believe they actually Gonerfella'd Onionsan. He for real got whacked and turned into takoyaki. They didn't need to fucking cook him. They did that shit for the LOVE of the game. What the fuck.(Also this implies that we're probably gonna be attacked by Goners for trying to escape the experiment or something like that. I dunno.)
>>741818715Kriscels in general. Total Kris humiliation.
>>741818487this outfit reminds me of her fanmade dark world designs
Any Gaster?
where the last 2 kitsunes
This game is made by a jew for mentally ill retards, just like Undertale.
This shit is so Coal.What happened to the secret bosses? This is literally a shitpost boss. We went from Spamton to this.
>>741818730But it is very much still in line with whats going on. 'You were used up' and then the game cutting to black is EXACTLY what happens.
CASH OUT MY KRUSIE STOCKS RIGHT FUCKING NOWPUT EVERYTHING ON KRISELLE (forme tumba de nieve) NOW NOW NOW
>>741818608The expanded purple soul gimmick was fun for me and I liked the dating sim/impossible quiz hybrid parts. You're right about the music though I didn't hate it but it's definitely the worst track
>>741815812Agreed, the game's juvenile obsession with high-school shipping like something out of a shojou manga for 13-year-olds is really limiting its sense of grounded. And as cringe as it is to ask for a role-playing game about colorful animal creatures set in a fantasy world, I think it's more embarrassing to prefer this sophomoric writing with endless excuses to take it down such a milquetoast path. Obviously someone's been ghostwriting since Chapter 4 I think.The Weird route seems like the only thing with a semblance of soul in it at the moment. And I agree with >>741818297 that the current attempt by the plot, through convenience and retcon, to smash two characters together, is to the detriment of the actual interesting things, such as Chris continuing to develop a better relationship with Susie, and exploring the damaged relationship between Kris and Noelle after he fell out of interaction with her due to his issues.Really a shame that the game treats anything that's not yuri levity as kind of a bad thing.
>>741818753so far, one appearance of friend in the platforming section but that's it
>>741818762You gotta push some of the statues.
>>741818693He was raised Christian you retard
>>741818674
>>741818280Why the fuck would he turn green. Dumbass.
>>741818674>Mew and Flowery this hightRecency biais!
>>741817268I still hate Kris.
>>741818059Not literally you fucking retard, it’s an player analogy. Spamton and Jevil were mind broken by Gaster who himself as a lightner was a higher being just like the higher being player mindbreaks Kris and Noelle to get across the lake (which in itself is the border of the game’s reality). Toby really doesn’t like data miners, the whole thing is a commentary on how far people are willing to go because something is interesting, Noelle spells this out.
>>741818738'She was used up''You were used up'Cut to blackYeah has absolutely nothing to do with this chapter right
>>741818814Episcopalians might as well be jews at this point
>>741818662>sensually>meanwhile, outside of anon's head and back in the real world, Noelle's voice goes: HUHHUHHUHHUHHUHHUH.
>>741818417And Weird Route in regards to this is…?
>>741818753Nope. IMAGE_FRIEND makes a brief transparent appearance (like in Chapter 4) and the end screen for the weird route plays the Gaster "garbage noise" audio. That's as much Gaster & Friends as there is in Chapter 5.
>>741815936>CRT filter black screen to insert Chapter 7To me this is undeniable proof of simulation theory.
Only one person can save us from the Suselle menace now
>>741818776Huh? I don't follow you hows that scene by the lake has anything to do with the shelter or the sword route
new chapter and the "kris will literally die if separated from the SOUL for too long" thing has me thinkgen bout freaky krisxsoul codependencyship stuff
>>741818814Wow you're so funny and original but in case you're serious, it doesn't matter he's still a disgusting jew.
>>741818823Did you blow in from stupid town or something?
4 > 2 = 3 > 5 > 1>>7418184515 has good gameplay, but holy fuck the story was awful and some parts dragged on for too long, like the flower fights.Weird Route being nothing more than a short cutscene was also a major disappointment.
>>741818164>how the fuck did Toriel or anyone at school not notice?Toriel didn't notice a giant bloodstain, because nobody actually truly gives a shit about Kris.
>>741818605I wish I were Kris
>>741818308>He'll just restart all over againGaster isn't doing anything without (you).You're his buddy and playing the game.
>>741818738You dont cross the water you retard you DIE in it. The game ends because your connection is severed. You sacrifice Kris and Noelle to free yourself from the cage. You got this guy to kill himself. Well done. Now go get your body back in Chapter 7 and burn everything to the ground.
>>741818886Its all Gaster just watching the experiment off his television while he cracks open a beer on his couch in the bunker
>>741818329It hurts my side how some anons were so deep delusional, they would genuinely argue against anyone that pointed at all the wokeness and that they had to deal with the fact they liked something like that. UTDR fandom is mental, it doesn't matter the place
>TO SAVE THE WORLDS THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY, >A SACRIFICE MADE ON FESTIVAL'S DAYAsgorebros...
i wasn't able to go to the festivalthis chapter punishes you for being a snowchad
>>741817508Without Kris there's no Chapter 5 fountain anon. You broke the story.
>>741818923If asgore had custody of Kris. My guy wouldn't be so neglected.
>>741818210I wanna know where does this sprite show up exactly because I didn't see it at all was it supposed to cover the entire screen but since its all white you cant see shit?
>>741817407You're really that attached to a personality-less silent protagonist that looks like 7 pixels... SAD!
>This was canon
>>741818674Truly awful bait
>>741818959Well no because when you die you just load back your save
>>741816237Well, short of going all the way to Japan and hunting down his house so I can hijack an airplane and throw myself into it, I don't think there's anything I can do.
>>741818773Does it has at least schizo dialogue?
>>741818328I felt so sorry for Susie for the eventual reveal that Kris has been lying to her all along and I hoped it'd result in them somehow coming closer from the experience even if needing time to heal, now I just kinda don't. Kris made a pact during his low moments before getting close to Susie and was suffering because of it and seeing himself trapped, Susie was also suffering at a low moment before getting close to Kris and hasn't hesitated on ditching him once she had something to gain, even knowing she was coming from the worst day in Kris' life that was chapter 4 (that she knew of, the day Dess disappeared is still probably the actual worst day in Kris' life). I have been waiting for a long fucking time for the decisive moment that'd test their friendship and decide whether they stay together or not and guess fucking what, Susie failed the test before it even arrived.I kinda just don't care about whether Susie feels betrayed now or doesn't.
>>741818335Asgore is a conspiracy board kind of guy.And when children make characters, they're bound to be based on somebody.
>>741818480but noelle is ALSO toby>quirky gay teenager in a big upper class house with a personal piano>stays up late playing shitty JRPGs after cross country practice>loves ugly mean women with purple skin and exactly 14 teeth
>>741819048Unless Gaster wills otherwise. 'Member the Knight fight?
>>741817784The Weird Route is about becoming GOD.So yeah that means we're gonna kill Wing Ding Gaster.
>>741818997so weird route roaring will probably happen off screen
>Snowgrave route skips to chapter 7 because chapter 7 is where we'll finally meet again with the vessel we made in chapter 1Tobysoft... So kino aiee...
>>741818632You're close but I don't really see it that way. To me it feels weirdly, line-crossingly intimate. Like when two really unhealthy people meet each other and end up burning each other up in the process.Noelle kind of came off like the femcel meme funnily enough. "They're all just fucking NPCs but you became redpilled Kris, and then you redpilled me too!!!"
>>741819071has miku theme song because toby's trying to be hip for the japanese audience
>>741819071The whole game is schizo shit it was made by a jew.
>secret boss is wasted on fucking mew mew>massive step back in terms of scale and stakes from chapter 4>spend the festival being the third wheel to your best friend and childhood friend>no Papypus (Sans is shit without his lanky bro)>no Asriel>Berdly shaftedI cannot believe I lost sleep waiting for this to come out.
i bought this awful game for 25 bucks cause i was hoping he could do something as good as ONE secret boss fight 7 years ago
>>741818886I don't know if it's a simulation, but just because some anons were asking in a previous thread, "Side A / Side B" are terms used in the internal files for the normal and weird routes in previous chapters.
>>741818893You essentially sacrifice Kris and Noelle to free yourself from the cage, but in turn the 'game' shuts off. Your task now is to play Chapter 7 as normal until evidently the Vessel is brought back up. Then when you get the Vessel (and thus, freedom), you can load the Chapter 5 save (Side-B) to continue where you left off. From there you essentially skinsuit Kris and larp as him from beyond the grave, lie to Susie about where Noelle went, then kill Susie and Ralsei, and every other Darkner. That's literally what happens in the Sword Route.
>>741818214>since there would have been no way to dynamically speak your new name through voice acting, not without some yet uninvented super AI generation tech anywaygaijin loser never played tokimeki memorial 2 wwwwww
>>741818773Meh, it follows the freedom discussion.>lmao nothing matters so I'm truly free>I got to cut my strings so I can truly be free>Freedom is inexistent.>Freedom is yours to write>Love take and give freedom
I cant believe Kerdly is real genuinely
>>741819089No she's Andrew Hussie.Don't make me come up with stupid bullshit to say so.Her dad is Rudy. Her mother is a Holiday (descendant of Doc Holiday by the way).
There's a high chance the finale is Susie and Noelle ganging up and murdering Kris once they learn he's the one making fountains.
>>741815482Seeing how he was treated this chapter makes me almost want to forgive for his treatment of us. Almost.
>>741818848my take is that noelle and kris will literally die so you can get the shelter access before you are supposed tothat or the shelter is always locked in regular route, requiring you to get the key in weird route and then going back to an older save file, which could be the only way to advance into chapter 7
>>741818492>chapter 6 happens>at some point off screen the seeds will be gone from our inventory>we never used them
>>741818297>Noelle is so god damn interesting whenever Susie is not around. Kris and Noelle are genuinely the two best characters in the game, but only so far as while Susie gets told to fuck off and eat shit.It really does just boil down to this, doesn't it? Toby has proven that he could easily write quality early 2010s edgekino, but only IF his yuri fetish is sidelined.
I'm lacking three pink coins, one in cliffs, one in the garden and one in the top of the castle. Little help with the garden? The area is gigantic
>>741819147With jews you lose. Thanks for the money, dummies.
>>741819071No, not even a little bitHonestly its kinda shocking just how normal she is
>>741817407>like look dude i'm on your side we can work together and get your ass fucking dess within the weeklmao anon please.You just know if Kris actually succeeds in bringing Dess back, all that will happen is that the game will then immediately reintroduce Asriel and they'll leave again together.
>>741818329expecting suselle to likely end up being canon is one thing, having the final shot of the chapter be kris standing in a dark hallway alone and visibly sad while susie celebrates and gets ready for her girlfriend to come over is another
>>741818959You only die in the lake if you stop PROCEEDing, which doesn't even actually kill you, it just makes the game schiz out and snap back into Normal Route. Getting the Chapter 7 screen means you managed to actually cross the lake.Welcome to NOWHERE, THERE WAS NOTHING BUT BLACK OUTSIDE THOSE WALLS
>Asriel doesn't come home because...
>>741819048Because YOU aren't dead. Kris is. Without Kris you have no body and with no body you have no connection to the game. Thats why you can't continue. Not until you get the Vessel back.
>>741819083what's up with him, then?
>>741819091if Gaster intervenes then he explicitly says so that he did. Did you not follow the game at all?
Did you find him?
>>741818978after flowery's dialogue about castle town, I believe the final prophecy might be to actually seal it, and susie gets upset because that is literally her home now
>>741819134undyne is still getting raped in the dungeon btw
>>741816407WHO
Did Anon's chapter 5 doom bingo ever get filled out I wanna see
>>741819076I can't even blame Susie. A friendless person like that can't resist someone like Noelle lovebombing them.
>>741819115He does realize that he's put Japan on suicide watch now right?
>>741819237There's no evidence of that. If they were alive then why did the game stop. The game only stops when you don't have a connection. It makes more sense that your connection is gone because it fucking drowned to death
>>741817854Way to go, Toby!
imma say itimma say the nword
>>741819184normal route endgame is either kerdly, krisoul/kressel, or kris dead in a ditch with no fourth option
>>741819218The mark of a bad pairing is when both characters are infinitely better in complete isolation of their partner. Happens a lot with yurishit.
>>741818791Do people genuinely believe that toby would let anyone ghostwrite his DREAM game?As a director, every single detail has to have his approval beforehand.
>>741818164I think Noelle was always telling the truth, only she notices it, even in chapter 1 she already noticed it but no one cares
Why the fuck did they have the dying cancer patient doing yardwork
>>741819276who?
>>741819278Ralsei almost directly states the final prophecy is about Susie's death.
>>741819306Wow this is the cope to end all copes.Absolutely fucking seething.Get out of here you raped bitch.
>Ralsei’s favorite drink is blue and pink>Immediately after that is called princessIs Transei real…?
>>741818632It's meant to be cathartic because it's a figurative baptism.
>>741819306>why did the game stopmaybe because the game isnt finished yet? retard
>>741819351friend
>>741819375BLUE AND PINK IS KRIS YOU DUMB NIGGERHE WANTS TO FUCK YOU
Krusie is there if you want it, you just have to pick those options. A flag literally gets set if you have Kris ride the Ferris Wheel with Susie. Toby knows. He might still be a fag but I doubt he'd set that flag if not to referance it later.Kriselle is also VERY fucking there but now it's confirmed to be Weird Route exclusive. You cannot have the doe on Normal route.Suselle is the obnoxious elephant in the room you're forced to deal with if you abort the Weird route or let the two of them lez out.Krusielle is probably dead.
>>741819276where was this segment?
>>741819246Sky crystal. If shadow crystals are based on lost/broken dreams then purified crystals must be based on hope/dreams. Combine that with a ring that can influence people and you have the twisted sword, a player resisting weapon powered by hopes and dreams
>>741819171You already free yourself from Kris during chapter 4 and its nothing special, you're just controlling the soul normallyBeing without a Vessel has been a thing since chapter 1 bro
>>741819134>>secret boss is wasted on fucking mew mew>there are anons unironically thinking that she was a good bossAlso, apart from the points you already made, this chapter was insanely ass. Genuinely can't believe that I was so excited these past 2 weeks.
>>741819306We'd just get a "THEN THE WORLD WAS LOST TO DARKNESS" gameover screen if that happened. We don't. We move to a different area, so the connection gets fucked up just locationally and also we've basically completely broken the prophecy doing this which has probably made our connection shit the bed, did you even HEAR how bitcrushed those noises were at the end?
>Toby will continue to try to fill this game with "deep" "emotional" messages>while continuing to force Suselle which is literally emotional incest since Susie is just Noelle's unhealthy replacement for DessI don't wanna hear him grandstand via these characters any more if this is the shit he thinks is ok
>>741819375yes, he'll kill himself in weird route, trust
>>741819306>why did the game stopUnc gets to the end of his TV episode and goes "That was a short movie"
>>741819241You already have a vessel, its Noelle.you're the giga overpowered monster with a human soul now.
>>741819306I mean, also we wouldn't have gotten the insert ch7 side b, i don't think the drowning is pointless
>>741819346one of two capable adult men in town who still has both their arms, the other one is stuck with the four thousand flowers and has no spare time to set up lights
>>741817854Toby, can you add more Mom NTR in the next chapter? I want more scenes where Toriel acts like a retarded whore.
>>741815548The only good part of this chapter is the fact that I now know that I can (and have) written better dyke relationships than Toby Fox.Not impressive considering this chapter, but still
QRD ON SNOWGRAVE? IS IT OVER?? WHAT THE FUCK IS SIDE B? DO WE REALLY NEED TO WAIT FOR CHAPTER 7 OR IS THE "NOTHING CHANGED" ITS OWN WEIRD ROUTE?
>>741818890MY KNIGHT...
>>741819472Honestly I kind of want Normal Route Suselle to end in utter tragedy (which I'm thinking is likely)Either due to Noelle's BIG RED FLAGS, or the Prophecy just keeping shit doomed as hell.
>>741819296She's not friendless though, not anymore. And her best friend just yesterday spent all day thinking his mom had been kidnapped only to find out she literally just forgot his ass while hooking up, plus whatever messed up thing the prophecy announced, both things which combined made her run away and leave said best friend alone.Susie is failing every damn test of her friendship with Kris.
>>741819418Climb to the top of the beanstalk and keep going up. At the top right you'll find Friend's face before it disappears. If you use your ACTION on it, your heart will target the nothing that is there and you'll take 200 damage.
>>741808572I don't know what to say.Actual goosebumps.
>>741818724hello? i feel like i've already searched through pretty much everywhere already.
>>741819370These are the same people who told me that Krusie was gonna happen in Chapter 5 and to trust the plan so maybe I should know better than to listen to you brainlets
>>741819523mom ntr as a concept is retarded
>>741819405Considering how insistent people are that Kris is nonbinary, this isn’t really much of a point against it
>>741819321Why are yurifags so incapable of chemistry?
>>741818916Fuck off you fag.>It's like plants vs zombies look the zombies are greenFucking retard.
>>741818196It looks like her face was getting all crystallised in the sprites before this one, but it's very hard to make out with the shaking and visual noise.
>>741819134you'll come around to itgive it time, it's kino
>mew mew says she might actually like kris>susie and ralsei go out of their way to come over and shoot down any chance of anything happeningjesus christ let the kid have SOMETHING man he's gonna drown himself in both routes at this fucking rate
>>741819306The game literally tells you come back to chapter 7 it'll continue
>>741818236I think it's a valid interpretation of the scene.Loss of innocence is one of the central themes in the weird route. That's what the original wilting flower in chapter 4 was supposed to represent, but it was a bit too on-the-nose.
>>741819543Speculation is that not drowning (not spamming "proceed") is Side A which will continue to Ch 6
>>741819501The whole point of the Weird Route is using people to get what we want. What we want is our original body and we can't get that without Kris dead. He is the only logical person stopping us from having that. He's blocking our freedom so he needs to die. He dies in the lake so now we're free. Its as simple as that.
>>741818848>used upbut they didnt die.
He's gunna do it.>Slowly kill everyone you can through the weird route>Only you and Susie left at the end.>Sans tries to stop you but Susie doesn't believe him and you team up to beat Sans.>She realizes afterwords you really are big bad.>Weird Route final boss is Susie.It be more Kino if you played AS Susie and have to beat Kris.
>>741819412Krusie feels like a ship that toby had no real plans for initially but due to its popularity, he ended up thinking in how he could add it to the story.
>>741808572>Stop>Noelle drags you in anywayhttps://youtu.be/VKr7IBdjI7s?si=3ilHlYstZPIOSiaP
>>741818836>Not literallyNo, even metaphorically this is dumb as fuck.Fuck you.
>>741819095I guess the apocalyptic scenario in Chapter 7 side B is gonna be (You) and not the Roaring.
SUSELLE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BADIT'S SUPPOSED TO FEEL WRONGSUSIE STRAIGHT UP RUINING HER AND KRIS' THING IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOW MOMENTIT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A BAD AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL SAD FOR KRISNOT EVEN THE FAGGIEST OF YURINIGGERS WOULD THINK THE FINAL SCENE KS SOMETHING GOODI'M NOT INSANE I'M NOT INSANE I'M NOT INSANE I'M NOT INSANE
so whoever said the game locks up in chapter 5 was kinda right
Where are the other two foxes?
PETAL DANCE IS THE BEST BOSS SONG IN THE WHOLE GAME SO FAR
>>741819647Can any anon checks the code to see if that's true?
>>741819560I...don't have a rebuttal to this. Ironically enough it's Ralsei that stepped up as the confidant and best friend during this chapter, which is funny since Kris didn't like them before.
>>741815810needs the 6th stage as toxic posivity
>>741819663'Used up' as in their use has been expended. They are no longer useful. Noelle literally refuses to stop you at a certain point, so as to stop Kris from forcibly backing out.
>>741815038A deer is ovulating hardcore IE she is in heat, and thus just seeing the male she wants to get fucked by repeatedly having his seed shoot into her cervix with the force of a super nova. Just the sight of him just the smell just being around him is causing her to have a massive orgasm. Once he enters her body her vagina wont let go its going to grip so hard. It wont let go until his seed is shot mutiply times inside her. Even then it wont let go, till you completely destroy her body&mind. Causing her brain to short out from too much pleasure, only then will her vaginal walls finally turn to jelly and let go.The deer demands your seed your body your mind and your soul, she demands you become her husband and father. She will do anything to protect you and your baby, even if it means sacrificing her life. Knowing the baby&you will live she till gladly die in a blood orgy protecting you both.PROCEED TOBLAST THE DEERWITHBUCKSHOT #HUMANSEED
>>741819629>>mew mew says she might actually like kris>>susie and ralsei go out of their way to come over and shoot down any chance of anything happeningWhen does that happen? During the fight, somewhere in the cafe?
>>741819610It's like trying to force two magnets together. Women pretend they get along with anyone and then you put them together and they're more likely to try to kill each other than two men rooming.
>>741819583>Still seething about Krusie even when it's been sunkTHE MAN WHO WAS RAPED ACROSS TIME AND SPACE. I CALL HIM A MAN, BECAUSE HE'LL NEVER BE A WOMAN.
>>741819705He did the same thing with Flowey btw, this is happening
>>741819708>NOT EVEN THE FAGGIEST OF YURINIGGERS WOULD THINK THE FINAL SCENE KS SOMETHING GOODanon they're not even gonna think about that scene for more than two seconds and you know it
>>741815261oh shit it's real
>>741819647>>741819747already long established we have known this since chapter 2you fucks have no memorysee >>741819157
>>741816465>HEY LIL DONNIE I JUST LICKED AN ENTIRE PUBLIC RESTROOM, HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT
Man this shit hurts
>>741819708ONE, NOTHING WRONG KRISTWO, NOTHING WRONG WITH KRIS
>>741819379The Chapter wasn't finished you fucking brainlet. The chapter ended abruptly, why is that you dumb fuck?>>741819438That requires way more mental gymnastics than 'our connection drowned in the lake you know because we fucking saw him under the water not getting back up with the damage noises'>>741819630Yeah I wonder why we can't just keep going from Chapter 5
>>741819412Suselle is locked in for goodThe Krusie sprinklings in Ch5 are simply there to drive more fanart and discussion, which he will do in 6 & 7 as wellHe will never make good on any of it because online transbians would firebomb his house if he ever backed out from Suselle
>>741819605I imagen alot of the single mother raised anons here lived through it. I know I have beat my meat to my mother loudly moaning while she was getting railed with only a paper thin wall between us.
>>741819708Lesbians ship Kriselle more than Suselle btw.
>>741819653>The whole point of the Weird Route is using people to get what we want. What we want is our original bodyYou're projectingIts about breaking free from the game Noelle quite literally tells (you) thisThrough Noelle you can break the game (you) just have to tell her toget your ass out of this fanfict freedom shit man
>>741819708thissusie doesn't know how fucked up noelle is yet. krusie niggas need to stay STRONG.
>>741819708It's buildup for the Kris betrayal and Susie misery. One hundred percent. That scene was to show Kris no longer having any doubts for betraying Susie. (Though it for sure could have been written better)
You guys DID get Ralsei's Ultimate Weapon right?
>tasque in a nun outfit>ralsei scarf bondage>noelle mindbreak drowning sexPornfags are eating good today
>>741819931if thats the case then why doesnt the Sword Route show us possessing Noelle like in your gay fanfiction you saw in a fanmade Youtube video? It's been 1:1 correct about the Weird Route up until now so explain that.
>>741819935It's over. Alphyne 2.0 won.
>>741819947kek
>>741819814it's in the cafe, there's a 'pink and kris' option in the meetingsshe gave kris what'll probably be his only kiss this entire fucking story right after the fight and then they go and do it, like fucking hell toby
Watching Noelle go full psycho fills me with a deep pit of nameless dread in my gut.
I'm lacking one pink coin in the garden. Little help? The area is gigantic
>>741819886the chapter IS finished, you literally get a save completion file in your save folder retard
Didn't Noelle make it obvious in the first 5 minutes of the game she has a crush on Susie? If anything, you're the one cucking Susie and Noelle with the weird route
There’s a surprising amount of people on Twitter that dislike the chapter
>>741819858Does this change the story at all?
>>741819993Answer the question you fucking dolt, why dont we just continue where we left off and go in the Dark World like in Chapter 4?
>>741819859I was aking if the "Nothing changed" screen is a different breed of snowgrave or not, but i guess this imply there's no snowgrave side a and its nothing more than a normal route with diferent dialogues sometimes
Anybody got art of aqua, she is cute?
>>741816905Toby's pulling a Symphony of the night?
So... how much until "this game developer make the perfect lesbian relationship representation", "toby fox savior of yuri" kind of videos start getting created?
>>741819985It's supposed to make you smile
>>741819969I don't fucking know Sword Route has more to do with Undertale's genocide than anything DeltaruneBut even then there's the Dess enemy which is like I don't even know anymore why its there
>>741820023just because Toby is a yurifag doesn't mean everyone enjoys it
>>741819980I could understand Ralsei sabotaging the "date", since he's suspiciously gay, but what was Susie's logic in that scene? Isn't she supposed to be a wingman?
>>741820034idk but it might result in some interesting stuff in ch5 not in the mood to replay it with aborted weird route but it seems interesting and probably has some interactions there
I fucking told you all this was coming when during chapter 4 Susie reads that the girl will find LOVE and she IMMEDIATELY ditches Kris and darts ahead and out of screen.It's simple dudes, Susie ain't worth it. She never was. We got fooled because we felt sorry for her. But not everyone with a sad backstory and issues to get over was always a misunderstood diamond in the rough, sometimes they're just a mediocre person with bad luck. Susie predicates herself on valuing friendship and holding it above everything, but doesn't actually live up to it.
>>741820012Weird route wasn’t about romance, it was about psychologically breaking Noelle’s self worth down so low and rebuilding her to be codependent enough to break the game
>>741820012Yeah but also Kris and Noelle are childhood friends and she gets happy when she hears Kris voice in the wr, so far it's mostly cucking Susie
>>741819904Yeah I don't have any mommy issues so that's just mental insanity to me. Still somehow got a femdom fetish though despite my perfectly healthy relationship with my mom. No cuck fetish, just femdom. Which is weird, because other femdomfags tell me that there's no way I don't have mommy issues, because they think everyone into it does. But I swear I don't at all
>>741819980Humiliation ritual plain and shrimple.
>>741820053Why would we continue? you're SKIPPING THE GAME, YOU'RE BREAKING THE PROPHECY.
>>741819969Nothing about the Sword Route shows Kris and Noelle glitching through whats supposed to be out of bounds area like Weird Route doesnt even care about the shelter
>>741820135I'm merely giving her the strength to be herself instead of "Noelle Holiday".
>>741819850>It's just like Undertale!!!Yep. All I need to know you're a fucking retard who can't discuss shit.
>>741820132The moment she saw she'd find Love she basically forgot about the friendship she was growing. Fuck you can even see that in gameplay with her leaving You/Kris alone while she runs off.I'm thinking it's half misery setup and half "IT HAS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THE PROPHECY SAID SO"
>>741819878i'm starting to think kris started opening dark worlds intentionally because he wanted to make susie happy with adventures
>>741819737Oh they were in the top of the armor room where I pushed one of the armors, and then one where I pushed an armor off the bottom
>>741820120chapter 5 susie is written like chapter 2 noelle, her only thoughts are about noelle now and fucking over kris for no reason just seems to come naturally
>>741820132The Weird Route is a morally justifiable route because of the fact that you, the Player, are forced to pilot a weak inept cuck who lets this bitch boss him around and treat him like dirt, you are literally dragging this faggot kicking and screaming into self respect and self actualization instead of planting your face onto a table while your friends les it up
>>741819904crazy thing to admit ngl
God, this game's plot is a mess sometimes nglIt feels like the focus is all over the place
>>741820135>denying a romance by corrupting and breaking down a girl to be obsessed with you isn't NTR
>>741819991bumping PLEASE
>>741816905sounds like a very distorted remix of the festival theme
>>741820132>Kris literally sleeps trought class always, avoids Noelle>somehow Susie thinks they were datingFeels weird, why would she think that lmao
WHAT A PREDICTABLE CREATURE
>>741808572I know this is cope but any chance that whats happening in ch5 the result of kris and susie subverting the prophecy?
So is the dyke shit confirmed canon now?I never wanted to play this game and never will, but if it has dykes in it I really hate it.
>>741819970last time i checked there's two chapters leftif it chapter 7 drops and krusie is dead i KILL myself but UNTIL then i continue HOPEMAXXING
>>741820180ZERO evidence, requires WAY more mental gymnastics than 'the kids who were drowning died actually'>>741820181You literally open a door that leads to a black void
>>741820254>into self respect and self actualization Anon, Kris is basically a puppet in the weird route to your whims.
WHERE IS THE FUCKING SECRET BOSS
K-Krusiebros...? Are we feeling alright?
>>741815573How did you cheat health? I can't find the table entry for hit points.
>>741820283It's next to the big bread, go to the right, and you'll see an area you haven't been to before.
>>741820326They literally got a confession scene. Stop coping.
>>741820341Get 10 pink coins, buy the key and go left during the top castle section
>>741820308Because it was shoe horned this chapter.>>741820341Nigga it's a literal giant sign saying "SECRET BOSS HERE" you can't possibly miss it.
>>741819980Should have included Kris actually crying over getting some sort of actual physical affection and then crying harder when his so called friends ruin it and make sure it won't happen again.
>>741820260>>741820164Am I not with my fellow moral reprobates here? I guess this place isn’t what it used to be
>>741820327tell me retard why would they make 2 different outcomes of the lake while still both leading them to drown?
>>741820323these games have always been gay as hell, are you stupid?
>>741820323if the post ending scene isn't a fakeout/red herring then noelle joins the squad next chapter
>>741819878This is setup for Kris switching sides in Chapter 6
>>741820327Noelle tells you she can do the impossible if you tell her to SHE TELLS YOU THAT and you know she breaks the game's reality like bruh
>>741820023the most prominent post disliking it is literally from a 13 year old tranny if that tells you anything about who really hates this chapter
>>741820308>A SUSIE CAN ONLY DO SUSIE THINGS>A NOELLE CAN ONLY DO NOELLE THINGS>AND A KRIS CAN ONLY DO KRIS THINGS>But...
>>741820308Kris and Noelle still spend time together (She studies with him after class).But it's really fucked to just bring this up out of nowhere in the latter half of the game.
>>741820132i'm honestly just kinda impressed toby was able to twist everything around and make her THIS fucking unlikeable in one chapter, especially when it was out of the norm to not have warmed up to her at this pointlike holy shit i hope he did it on purpose because doing this on accident would be an achievement all on its own
>>741819114>To me it feels weirdly, line-crossingly intimate.This is my feeling as well. It's a quietly horrifying kind of intimate, if I wasn't rooting for it- and seeing the broad reactions here, pending me actually bothering to play the new chapter, make me feel strangely vindicated in having gone through the whole process.
>>741820023Anything interesting?I got suspended so I can't look up anything deltarune related.
Kris is just the eridan of deltarune
>>741819947don't forget that we also got>glasses nerd sex>cunny>fox sex>ralsei blushing while taking a bath with you and being a faggot about it
>>741820346
>>741820478I CAN DO ANYTHING
>>741820435When you spam Proceed you can only listen to Noelle's thoughts because she can't speak because she's drowning to death. We don't see her or Kris get back up from the lake. Why?
>>741820430I mean I just told you I have a femdom fetish. Does that not make me degenerate too? Not as bad as being a cuck though, but still I'm no saint
>Susie comments early on that she can use the date with Noelle to get back inside her home and find the code again>ah, in order to progress the mystery I need to risk Suselle. Well played, Toby.>genuinely thought it was an interesting balancing act>get to the festival>SIKE nigger>you're forced to watch Suselle regardless of what you do>Holiday's home plotline is dropped entirely since the fountain opens on Asgore's shop>there was no choice but SuselleAh. Of course. I should've known Toby would never give us the option to deny his yurifaggotery. How silly of me.
>>741820478Feels like she was sentient living in a NPC filled world only to then notice Kris actually doing unique stuff
>>741820478NOELLE CAN DO THINGS (i'm things)
so does this thing do anything or did toby just fuck me raw?
huge >friend invites his girlfriend to your tabletop nights energy
>>741820346>Be Kris.>Have adventures with Susie in the Dark Worlds.>Bring Susie to your favorite spot by the lake.>Tell Susie you'll teach her to play piano, the one thing that gave you some joy all those years since Dess' disappearance.>Be Susie.>Decide Noelle has to get into the Dark Worlds "to help" even though Noelle is the only non-fighter and she doesn't also include Berdly.>Bring Noelle to Kris' favorite spot by the lake.>Tell Noelle she's welcome to play piano with her.Chapter 5 will start with Susie taking Noelle to the diner.
>>741820504We got dates and a kiss by a catgirl too!
>>741820437Hey nigger faggot, I've never played the shit and Im asking, are you retarded?>>741820450This shit is so ass
>>741820327ANON MIGHT SHITPOST FASTER, BUT THE BROKEN TRANNY, W.D. TRANSTER?IN A SWELTERING HOT ALLEY, HE DISAPPEARED.DWIGHT AND DUDLEY, IN HIS REAR.HAHAHA, HOW CNA I SAY THIS WITHOUT FEAR?I HAVE A PIECE OF HIS RAPED ASS RIGHT HERE.
>>741820327>get loredumped through multiple chapters how what you're asking of Noelle is doing the impossible and succeeding, breaking the game in the process>one of the scenes just entirely freezing the game as a sign of the game breaking and glitching out>>erm them somehow crossing the lake without drowning is ackshually unrealistic and would never happenbait or retarded, call it.
so... 09-15-199X...alsoWEEBS WON
>Second shelter code is 0915199x>Undertale was released 09/15Hmmmmm
>>741820470but ralsei was confirmed trans this chapter
how the fuck do you consistently dodge blue and yellow in the flowery fight
>>741820346If the twink wants to scorch the world to a pile of cinders, I say we let him.
Seems like people don’t like it
>>741820549>Holiday's home plotline is dropped entirelyThis was really fucking bizarre, it was such a core component of the last two chapters, at the very least I was genuinely expecting Kris to walk over to the Holiday house at the end of the chapter after the credits before it cut to black.
>>741820579What could possibly go wrong?
>>741820621>Undertale release date> September 15, 2015
>>741820478time loop theory?
>noelle is so mindbroken by the rape that if you suddenly refuse to abuse her she rapes you insteadThis. This is exactly what I wanted to happen.
>>741820481At this point, I dont care. I would be upset too with "look, it's shit on purpose". Fuck off
if you told me berdly was the only lightner to do anything interesting in a dark world i would NOT have fucking believed you but here we are
>>741820616NTA but all of that was in Dark Worlds.Anon might be confused why Noelle "Gamebreaker" Holiday isn't nerfed in the Light World.
I concluded Deltarune does not have legitimate mysteries. It's all based on vibes. There's no point to looking into or thinking too hard about anything. It's a waste of time.
>>741820657>starts strong but the festival was shit
>>741820687I'm thinking it's more that the Prophecy is wildly more hardline and insidious than we thought. As seen when you do actually drown in the lake and the game freaks the fuck out and puts you back 'in bounds' on the Normal Route.
>>741820556>Feels like she was a sentient NPCNo she has severe dissociative disorder because she doesn't have the willpower to speak or do anything for herself and no reason to keep on living.Not everything is funny video game terms.
>>741820538>she cant speak because she's drowningare you implying you are able to speak underwater if you weren't drowning? are you this mentally retarded? you can never speak underwater, it's physically impossible even if you could breathe underwater.
>>741820616So I suppose the damage noises just dont mean anything right
>>741819991This one drove me nuts, check above the shrine where the feather was. Use the platforms on the left to get up there.
>>741816781I'm still hopeful for chapters six and seven normal route.
>>7418206574 chapters with abysmal pacing and people only getting upset about it now? Come on
>>741820687People have been saying that for a while and with how Susie is escaping reality to the point she refuses to go home along with that red flag speech at the end of chapter 4, Susie won’t let the game end
>>741819878>Man this shit hurtsA sign of a well-written NTR story. Toby is really a pro at this.
>>741820657Oh, well if NyxTheShield hates it then it must be bad
>>741820746Anon is a RAPED BITCH who is insisting that Weird Route is ended despite the "continues in chapter 7" ending.Don't give him any sort of leeway or "fairness".
>>741820779Correct she's underwater and she didnt come back up leading to only one logical conclusion, anything else you say is conjecture based on nothing, have a good day and kill yourself
>>741820805this, im surprised that the backlash wasnt bigger before now
>>741820657The pacing is really bad its so much slower compared to all the other chapters and even UT
Has anyone made an edit of the wojak fucking the fat chick with pizzapants and catty yet?
>>741820785Both of you die and then she absorbs your soul
Anyone else notice that the flower shop shelter code is literally the release date of undertale?
Guys...What if the ending is shit and we've been overhyping ourselves into thinking it's way deepee than we think for nearly a decade?
Am I the only one who was annoyed by ralsei's whining about flowery and the rules? It actually made me hate him even more than I already do
how can we be certain we've seen all the chapter 5 content
>>741820887undertale didnt come out in 199x
>>741820760those people worship yuri so the suselle pretty much makes it for them
>>741820887>199X
>>741820692Kris really is Krillin-tier YABBA DABBA DOO in this chapter.
>>741820746the game freezing, giving you an empty dialogue prompt and removing the rain happened in the light world.
>>741820842Are you mentally retarded you cocksucking faggot? I never said that you dumb FUCK. I said Kris and Noelle are DEAD because they DROWNED. I never said the Route ended, are you retarded? I said these two characters died because they drowned to death but this is all part of the plan.
>>741820546Femdom is wierd to complete normies but its really not that big a deal. You seek the relaxation of not being in control, thats far from abnormal. I think you’d quickly find a hooker to live out that fetish.
>>741820905Who cares? It was always about the journey.
>>741820915ralsei actually getting mad and hating someone made me like him way more
>>741820773That sort of tracks with how Ralsei feels about the Prophecy and how he clearly knows about the Weird route but doesn't do anything to stop it
>>741820940Get out of here.You've already been MENTALLY RAPED.
"people" unironically post shit like this as if the weird route just spawns out of nowhere and toby didn't intentionally code it
>>741820754Is there even a single mystery or secret boss or secret in general that people correctly predicted
>>741820969True. He felt more three dimensional.
>>741820410okay, is that after the flowery fight?>>741820414fuck you man, i went and got the key as soon as the door opened up, i'm just trying to make sure i don't miss it
>>741820915I genuinely thought Flowery being able to fill our spare bars would mean that he would eventually force us to stop the fight via ACTing and a pissed Ralsei would burn him to death
>>741820905Then I will once and for all make a hard rule for myself to never again get into any sort of fictional media that follows the kinds of aesthetics that both TADC and Deltarune follow, because I'm sick and tired of every author that chooses this particular vibe also writing this kind of shit.
>>741820657Man it's bad if deltarune fans are saying it's shit. These motherfuckers have no standards
>>741820849screencapping your post and then coming back in 2 years when we still see them both alive, faggot.
>>741821041>okay, is that after the flowery fight?nope, you just go left at the top of the platforming room where Ralsei and Susie do their ACTs without your input.
>>741821034We don't know, because the game hasn't answered shit yet. None of the secret bosses were set up ahead of time.
I got a yandare girlfriend, why is everyone so mad?
>>741820969This, hems his own person. Mew mew was actually Ralsei’s secret boss, he’s finally valuing darkness over lightners, before he would have lied down and told mew mew’s body to accept it
>>741820915>>741820969>>741821036His angry sprite is so fuck ugly it made me hate whenever he bitched about flowery
>>741820940Kris might be dead even before we get to play he game he's a zombie without the soul like green skin zombie
>>741820915ralsei displays emotions other than "sad submissive faggot" and you're DOOMPILLING?? HE REVEALS HE'S SECRETLY STRONG BECAUSE HE'S PISSED AND YOU';RE MAD AT THIS?????
>>741821091it's literally two troons on twitter who have said anything negative about it outside of the self-insert nigger chimpout on /v/
>>741821094Wow you're really willing to stick it out with this dogshit game for another 2 years
>>741820773ralsei sort of glosses over it in chapter 4 but even he admits that everything it says WILL come to pass. susie wasn't supposed to meet kris and go on fun adventures with him and develop an attachment to him instead of noelle, so when it comes time for love to find its way to the girl, the prophecy just forcibly rearranges things to make it so.
>>741821171Yes we get it you're just a shitposting nigger baiting for (You)s
>>741821171Oh noooo the amount of effort we have to put into getting more chapters for free when they're released
>>741819071Not a single bit of it Lmao.>>741820905After this chapter I'm starting to think it will be lmao.The ONLY thing I liked was the weird route this chapter. The main chapter was total balls.
>>741821132his angry sprites are sexy
>>741821020Do these people think the normal route is going to be some wholesome chungus “love wins” ending or something?
>>741820905I've not been overhyped at all, I've been along for the ride for the weird route only. You have any idea of how fucking RARE it is to get this quality of mindbreak drama in any story? It's kino of the highest order.Everything else I don't give a fuck about.
well guess i better finally get on with setting up a weird route save soon, since evidently the normal route's only gonna get worse from here
>>741821094Like how we just had to trust the plan and Krusie was gonna happen this whole time becasue Toby is secretly based? Don't worry, you were right back then, I'm sure you'll be right this time!
>>741821112>where Ralsei and Susie do their ACTs without your input.i don't know what room that is. is is the one where you have to do rude buster on the flowers to make them open up? because i think i ended up doing all the ACTs there manually.
>>741821164I'm not doompilling. I'm fine with Ralsei actively sandbagging I just never liked his character because his whole personality more or less is a farce/facade for the most part
>>741820828What a raped fag. Deltarune was murdered for this inane faggotry.
>>741821182This is what I'm thinking yeah. I'm curious if it'll get progressively more obvious Susie's thinking is... off somehow. Might be that letting the party at least think properly is what the eggs or crystals get us.Wait.Trance Down. The Prophecy is forcibly putting people into a trance. The twisted sword will let the party be sane.
>>741821292Probably, it's the tall room where you have to do rude busters and platform hop Ralsei
>>741821246unironically yes, it is what everyone out of here is hoping forI'm still hoping that weird route is mandatory because you know time loop will happen since susie doesn't want the story to end
>normal route>Kris gets FUCKING KEKED with the force of a thousand suns>he barely looks sad and just walks away>same guy who was making moves on Susie>same guy who would downright harm himself to stop you from picking unsavory dialog choices>Weird Route>"Kris take my hand lets kill ourselves">"ok">same guy who on Chapter 4 was fighting tooth and nail to stop you>same guy who beat the fucking shit out of (YOU) for putting the thorn ring on Noelle'a fingerWhy the fuck does Kris have so little agency on this chapter
>>741820915this >>741821053i was REALLY hoping for ralsei to snap and use his fire magic in battle for once
>>741821306>his whole personality more or less is a farce/facade for the most partthat's why i like him in this chapter because he's actually showing more of a real personality, jealousy, anger, etc.
ship is sinking, >>741811718
>>741821057Same man same. I was getting invested too before this chapter. This chapter was the fucking worst. At least TADC signposted it's coal early in a fairly heavy way.We need to start making some based games. No more of this fucking COAL.
>>741821034we literally don't know shit we can only speculate
>>741820773>Back in boundsI think it's more like the interpretation that Hometown is the only thing that exists. You and Noelle go straight to the climactic penultimate chapter. You make a big leap to skip the bullshit and head to the ending headstrong. But Chapter 7 isn't a place that exists yet.
>>741821292>>741821363okay i figured it outfor some reason it didn't occur to me to fall dwon the very obvious pit, despite having noticed (and even grabbed, using coyote time) the coin in it
>>741821384Based anon imagining how the chapter went
>>741821384you've broken himalso even if you select the "stop" prompt noelle is the one that says proceed and pulls kris into the lake
>>741820746People forget that Noelle gets stronger by pain, the drowning most likely makes her stronger
>onionsan said she heard a song coming from deep below the ocean, she went to check on it and got killed by the striped bird/goner 3 and served as takoyaki at the festival (susie says it tastes like onions)>the song playing when drowning in the Weird Route has the same notes as Your Best Friend but in drum formsay it ain't so
>>741821428Fuuuuck >>741811718 posted that????
>>741821384>he barely looks sadby kris standards he looked fucking miserable, especially when it's being purposefully juxtaposed with susie being happy in castle town
>>741821384its possible that normal route could be Kris sacrificing himself and keeping the SOUL under control to make sure everyone else is happy (Cuckery), while weird route is the Player sacrificing everyone to get freedom
>>741821347Not sure if Trance is about the Prophecy since thats not how it affected Noelle at any pointShe literally breaks from it once you put the ThornRing on her
>>741821462Proof
>Suselle is Susie being mindcontrolled by fate or somethingToby would NEVER have the balls to do something like this
>>741819708I want to believe you but I don't trust Toby
Niggas seriously arguing over this chapter as if there wasnt only 5 minutes of actual story and 5 hours of lesbian retard filler that nobody liked
>>741821561https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGMFd14azNQ
>>741821580Isn't it what's implied by the beads?
>>741820915>>741820969I think that Ralsei seeing someone exactly like him and immediately hating them for no reason really does out him as a little fag when he continues his shtick and continuously gets upstaged by someone who's just nicer than he is.
>>741821396Maybe Ralsei will actually fuck up and that'll endear me to him but as it stands I still hate Ralsei
>>741821442No if you fuck up during the swimming and take too long to PROCEED, the game schizzes the fuck out and sends you back onto Normal Route.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKr7IBdjI7s>Nothing changed, because a Noelle is just a NoelleThe Weird Route itself is just barely 'out of bounds' and if you fuck up that last bit, the game just... puts you back onto the normal route somehow, even though the two of you did just drown, and Susie and the Darkworlds amd Noelle move on like nothing even happened. Even if that makes no sense. Because the Prophecy HAS to happen, so it does.
I'm starting to think that maybe Noelle had violent tendencies tooShe's masking being nice but once we make her put on the ring she goes back to that violent mindset
>>741821460it will finally awaken her as the angel and the new vessel for (Us)
>>741821580Noelle is legitimately a disgusting person with the way she treats Kris. Her attraction to Susie is based on her masochistic urges, and she only sees Kris as a person once Kris also becomes that bully figure (except way better than her fantasies could ever imagine). Their relationship is built on an unhealthy foundation and Susie only reciprocates because she's never had one before. Of course, this is assuming this is all intentional and not piss poor writing.
You could plug Earthworm Jim between the Light World segments and the story would be unchanged.What a fucking disappointing slurpfest, I'm so, so depressed right now.
>in chapter 5 the Mike room is just making fun of people for creating superficial theories>confirms the superficial theory of the fountains locations
>>741821580he can have it both ways desu>suselle is hard forced by the prophecy>but after breaking the conditioning they realize they actually did like each other anyway
>>741821763Are you people 12 and just looking to feel bad and make up drama?
>>741821830
alright so in the normal route, Susie can draw up to 4 people in the card he gives Sans: herself, Kris, Noelle and Ralsei (if you do a dialog in chapter 4). However, in the weird route, Susie can only draw 3: herself, Kris and Ralsei.So what we thinking this relates to in regards to Sans room drawing?
>>741821763Nice one Dunkey
>>741821757>Once Kris also becomes that bully figureIt's more than that. You knocked Noelle out of a deep rooted depression that took over her entire life.
>>741821812but susie isn't the girland kris isn't the cage, for that matter
>>741821812>>741821580you'd expect that after seeing the final prophecy susie would be hesitant to get close to noelle since "love finds its way to the girl" is literally one of the eventsbut nah, gotta lezz it up
>>741821384Well, she does say in the lake that she wants to break free
>>741821679Damn, cool.
>>741821580after Ch4 i honestly could've seen him doing something like that, but after this one? after reading hours of typical toby yurislop? nah that motherfucker wants that shit to happen genuinely
>>741817920>except for susie&noelle, which noone fucking likesthing is, you're technically right, but to your eyes it won't seem like so because twitter fags will keep yapping about how awesome those two dykes are together. And they will be loud, like they're the only visible part of the fanbase.
>>741821580This is something that people thought was happening in Homestuck too funnily enough.
>>741821942fuck mean for >>741821723
>>741821872remember sans also mentions seeing a really strong snowstorm once in one of the UT console versions, so its possible this is a weird route only thing, and weird route might be the "canon" pathanother anon mentioned how toby's dream was actually the weird route ending
>>741821872Normal route is the bad end, the pals go back in time in order to save the world through the weird route thus creating Undertale.
>>741820692>the doe enjoyed the rapeoh how the turn tables
>>741821934CoolI can't wait for the redraws of that scene
>Noelle basically begging Kris to keep going>screaming his name louder and louder>moving the heart to select the proceed feels oddly penetrative>it steadily picks up the pace until a big climaxI'm probably being a massive schizo but holy shit that felt very sexual. Maybe I'm just too much into Noelle rape route shitposting
>>741822058Or, Undertale isn't the outcome of the plot and it's just where all the disappeared people end up. Given that the Knight has only captured Undertale characters
>>741822102Worse, she always wanted it deep down.
>>741821936well if she realises she's dead eitherway then might as well enjoy life until then
Chapter 5 Weird Route > Chapter 2 Weird Route > Chapter 3 > Chapter 4 > Chapter 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chapter 5
>>741821942Replying to this one you fucked up, lol.Yeah someone who says, "I want to be like you, do something crazy." To someone who she believes is a literal violent psychopath should have been warning flag number one.Saying, "If I could do something crazy, I would jump out of the ferris wheel, grow big angel wings, and fly out of the city." should be number two.Noelle admitting that she has some extreme compulsions she'll never act out is really telling.
>>741822135I don't think you're hallucinating.Chapter 2 was mostly about gaslighting and moral corruption - while Chapter 4 could be likened to a rape.Now she rapes back.
>>741821020Aborted route is still not going be a pleasant one.
>>741821580Genuinely failing the lake section in Weird Route kind of implies that. I'm thinking we either never actually get ship confirmation or Shadow Crystals/Eggs let her break conditioning and ACTUALLY be able to fight against fate. (We may have up to four routes since Twisted Sword is seemingly real)
>>741822051>toby's dream was actually the weird route endingit would definitely explain the route feeling more focused compared to the main route setting up several interesting things and still managing to have a whole chapter of filler somehow
>>741822135That's very hot, I am now going to MASTURBATE, thank you Anonymous!
>wants to kill herself with kris after enduring a full day of susiewe trained her well
>>741822051>toby's dream was actually the weird route endingi could unironically see that being truea story about breaking a game to try and wrench a better outcome out of its remains has to have a "regular" game to actually work
>>741822135>everything turns white after reaching climaxbig coom bros... we're eating good
>noelle is actually fucking mindbroken and actively makes you continue the snowgrave routeBack on chapter 3+4 I joke about how we'd mindbreak Kris next.I'm very pleasantly surprised
>>741821763i feel like some of you niggers would only be satisfied if the dark world segment was just gaster saying the answer to every single unanswered question in the UTDR mythos with 0 gameplay
>>741822340To be honest, Side A exists for Side B at this point.
>>741822321considering i forgot to get the first egg i'm really hoping they're not actually plot-relevant because i really do not feel like slogging through the normal route AGAIN just to collect em all
>>741821384With all the interactions too. Kris doesn't eat the cheese, Kris doesn't dig for the Yellow,
>>741821384based sigma kris who doesn't gaf about ship wars while the player is posting on internet forums crying about it
>>741822443The Shelter Chapter...
>>741822259Swap chapter 2 and 5 WR, chapter 2 weird route is the uncontested #1, everything else is just trying to ride off of its momentum (and miserably failing).
>>741821679>mfw i was mashing that shit so fast i didn't even know this could happen
>>741822443I wanted at least some hint to the knight or more dess info, this was THE chapter for thatbut nope asgore just vague posts and then gets dragged away at the end
>>741822443We literally went from third wheeling a piss poor lesbian relationship to filler wacky time. Yeah it sucks
so there is 2 weird routes now?>chapter 5, say "stop" at the lake, dont let noelle drag you too deep>chapter 5, proceed
>>741822321>We never actually get ship confirmationNoelle states that in the entire world she only cares about Kris now isn't confirmation for you?Actually, "I can do anything as long as you tell me, Kris." That's a confession. They were holding hands.
>>741822593I think the drowning one wont change anything, it will just go back to normal route after that scene
>>741822443Well yeah, when the game becomes bad then exposition dumping and ending it is the preferable outcome.
>>741822593No, Aborting at the lake just puts you back on the normal route
>>741819708Anon, please don't fall into this cope. Far too many times have I gone>These characters are all acting so ridiculously stupid, surely it must be on purposeIt never is. It's never on purpose, the writers are just retarded
>>741822660there was no abort jingle tho
>>741822593this abort actually feels the most like it's kicking you straight to the normal route without any extra changes, the prophecy corrects your little misadventure and everything returns to normal
>>741822725clearly the solution is for someone to finish the aborted route and check the game save filesthe new save completion file now has a _b after the numbers to indicate its the sideb route (weird route)if it still has the _b then its still the weird route, if its something entirely else well then we are in for a ride.
>>741822725nothing changed could go both ways
>No Knight unmasking>No FRIEND >No Dess>No Gaster>No Asriel>Roaring didn't start
>>741822650In weird route yes. But you're already breaking fate there. I'm talking about specifically in normal route because they might just walk into NOWHERE in chapter 7 and have a moment of *WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED, HOW DID I GET HERE, WHY DID I DO ALL THAT?*
>>741822725you also get the progression jingle for choosing stop instead of proceed
>>741822443How to fix chapter 5:1.Make Susie x Kris possible by consolidating the previous chapters choices with the festival choices. (ferris wheel etc.)Not mandatory, just possible to actually do it.2.Don't force the weeb shit on the player too much.3.Use the "weird route only lasts 8 minutes with cliffhanger" on the 6th chapter instead of 5th4.Make Asgore less of a delusional fuck and really make him the "King of his kingdom"5.Start answering some of the questions since we only miss two chapters by nowThat's it.
>>741818354>while soaking wetYou both made valid points, only way to find out who is correct is to wait until chapter 6, coming 2029!
>entire darkworld is weebshit for some reason>the excuse is a singular manga magazine at Asgore's shopToby...
i HATE japan
>>741816765The Mewmew fight is a parallel to this
FUCK Kris's FAGGOT friends from letting him score in that last break scene
Why does everyone here hate the secret boss? It was really challenging and unique
