Stop being attracted to crazy girls!
Prosneed.
Noelle's new face sprites look like CarolCarol, who has an obsession with heart-shaped objects
Ralsei can do fire magic holy shit
I NEED a crazy doe girl who wants to become the strongest in my life
>>741925240No, I am more attracted to Noelle than ever now. Susie's entire character went down in flames this chapter and Noelle became infinitely hotter.
>>741925240We're going to get so many new crazy doe art.
Stop making them attractive.
>>741925386Carol was weridrouted in the past
>>741925386Gotta make an intergenerational sandwich with her mom.
>>741925386https://youtu.be/wjh1nZ0anDo&t=101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7x_hu4t4Y>Carol got Weirdgraved in the past and Rudy is the only thing holding her together
>>741925453As things should be. Susie is not important. Noelle is the only one who really matters.
>>741925386All women end up like their mother at some point which is fine because Carol's hot.
>>741925240>sends her timid daughter out on her first date with the nice neighbor boy>Learn they fucking drowned themselves immediately How will she react?
>>741925220>>741925316Part of me think she's doing this because Flowery might've told her about You and You might be able to protect Noelle which is a very cruel irony because of the weird route. We may as well have also recruited Berdly because he also has experience with the dark world. Susie is only really doing this because she's terrified at this point.
>>741925431>Ralsei will fight against Noelle
>>741925386there's definitely some "this has happened before" shit going on, if Rudy's not the Knight now then he at least used to be when they were kids
>Deltarune is just Noelle's game nowSusiebros... what happened?
I can't wait to go to the MEAT FACTORY in Super Hell.
NOOOOOO THIS CHAPTER DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF MY HECKIN THEORYSLOP LORE DROPS!!>Ignores Onion-san being fucking killed>Ignores Susie fully devolving into escapism and seemingly embracing being an NPC like Noelle tells us about in the Weird RouteThis chapter is honestly really interesting and eerie beneath the surface
>>741925468>>741925498>carol got Weird routed in the past>ended up pregnant twiceYup, does are good for one thing.
>>741925526She will understand, as she went through it herself.
>>741925431He had to nuke the statue with SOMETHING in the last chapter, right? Dudes been holding back. This chapter pissed him off so much he revealed his power level and in the fight against Flowery he doesn't even fucking bother faking his death animation and just sits there like a fucking bitch with a huge ass frown on his face.
>>741925526They aren't dead. Trust the plan.
>>741925498So... who raped her?
>>741925240We know which path was Toby's dream, now.We know exactly what he saw in the depths of a feverish sleepAnd it was BEAUTIFUL
>>741925240>>741925462>>741925475god damn I'd love to mind break a bitch this hard
does anyone have a DL for the full soundtrack, asking for a friend
>>741925591Noelle is gonna end up with more than 2 at this rate, she's way crazier.>>741925668Not mindbroken, free. This is who Noelle really is. She was just playing a part before, she said so herself.
>>741925240stick your dick in crazy, /v/!
>>741925624the statue? he nuked the ninja star in my run
>>741925657>toby dreamed of an incredibly sexy and esoteric doe woman walking him out of bounds IRLSasuga
>>741925668Careful what you wish for, anon.
>>741925573>Deltarune is just Noelle's game nowAlways has been.
>>741925720Im saying he did something like this last chapter by nuking the statue in the dark. This time we actually SEE him do it 'on camera'
God i can't wait to see Joel pretend to like all the fag shit in chapter 5
I want to make a little game for halloween with the psycho noelle, thinking of whether to make it a quiz show or a shooting gallery. Reward is two porn animations.
>>741925590they don't spell out the susie thing so that's why the schizo never understood media once types missed it. you're not supposed to celebrate susie losing touch with reality and trying to bring a girl she dated for exactly 1 day into her "home" in the dark world and pressure her to also live there.
>>741925768keep shilling your eceleb rando dude, all day im still never going to watch him and im never going to give a fuck
you know, in the topic of the lake scene, i wonder if someone could draw Kris and Noelle skinny dipping together, that would be great
>>741925757Stop drawing submerged Noelle demonic. She is having a great time and cumming her brains out.
>>741925657>deltarune was just an experiment to invoke Toby's crazy doe tulpa to real life
>>741925717spoken like a true rapist
>>741925657>>741925723Strike 5, ball 5 for>Noelle is a fallen angel writing herself into existence through Toby's fever dream.Last batter was a walk, oops.
>>741925803This and the Ralsei hot springs scene
>>741925764All red herrings
The scene where Susie locks herself in the closet makes me feel bad When I was a teenager I also locked myself in a fantasy world. Eventually I was so deluded into fantasy that I started to believe that the end of the world prophecy will actually come to pass, and that all of the people in the real world will die (including all of you). So I had to fight my own "Ralsei" in the deepest depths of the cool-ass dungeon I called home.Any way I can sue Toby Fox for using my insane loneliness delusions in his game?
>>741925498For the love of god I need to see the oppositeI need to see what Carol would look like if she did a Noelle face
>>741925526>Husband: dead or dying>Oldest daughter: dead and or the knight>Youngest daughter: dead or dying>Asgore: missing and not fucking her sillyCan this lady catch a break.
I want to make Noelle happy. I also want Kris and Noelle to end up together. If Weird Route somehow pulls it off and makes it happen I am all for it.
>>741925765Oh yeah the fake Gerson >>741925798I don't care if you watch him or not i'm just sharing my thoughts
>>741925240I'm not attracted to girls at all
>>741925828>Crazed astral doe presence crawls out of your computer monitor after Weird Route ends.>She'll act as a "going into games machine" for you.
>>741925871No because as you know she is VERY HOMOPHOBIC
The Weird Route feels exactly like an irl relationship between two extremely mentally ill people. Intensely intimate and intensely self-destructive.
The knight is a timelooping weird route Noelle, isn't it?
Ch 5 is interestingIt kinda is a chapter where you're not exactly the good guy in the situation.Castletown is so fucked man
>>741925723>an incredibly sexy and esoteric doe woman walking him out of bounds IRLEuropean fairy tales warned me about this kind of shit!
>>741925907Would u hug a fallen angelActually hold on I'm a Christian don't answer that
>>741925963Kino pic
Kris and Noelle become the Angel when they drown together.
I'm reviving this old theory now after the events of 5.Rouxls is going to be our "Sans" twist boss reveal near the end for Weird Route. Because he's Gaster's OC. He was put in just for funsies and not meant to actually be any kind of threat, but when we start to "break the rules", he's going to step in and be serious for once.>Can teleport in pillars of light>Can control the UI (admittedly, so can Lancer technically)>Speaks with moving hands in his portrait in that one moment in Chapter 3's board>Inverted design from his shop in Chapter 1 looks very Gaster>You normally throw away the Rules card in a deck anyways, so it's a good "body" for Gaster to have found or slipped in>We're still missing Blue Soul Mode, and that has been a staple of the Skeleton Brothers>Rouxls may be a Blue colored OC of a Skeleton Brother, so he could have Blue Mode>Blue is Integrity, "firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values", aka FOLLOWING A SET OF RULES.
>>741925240Never! I will fuck her all the way to the other side of that lake and Gaster can only watch in horror and confusion at this sight gunning towards him.
>>741925718Mew mew isn't crazy! She's just a little confused
>>741925498I knew I was hearing her breathing sounds.
toby fox is creating an entire game solely to prove that Marche from FFTA is fucking right.
>>741925907>>toby was the one who made the "going into games machine" post
>>741925526>"Ahh I remember my first date..."
>>741926037Darkener Mew Mew is female, a good girl and would genuinely bang Kris.Dummy is a fag.
I haven't played it, but I've heard the latest chapter confirms Susie/Noelle.I know a lot of people here shipped Kris with Susie. What's the overall reaction to that?
>>741925940Grats this is the worst knight theory I've ever seen
>>741926027This sounds plausible and I will choose to believe it.
>>741925654
>>741925921>not-rape scene leads to not-murder-suicide pact sceneHow does Toby do it?
>>741926127You have like 10% of the story there. It's pointless to ask that without diving all the way into the lore.
>>741926137me? nah
>>741926027this would be doing rouxls a disservice to be the theoryfag le heckin secret punishing the player's choices boss
>>741926127Severe depression, general hopelessness about the state of the story going forward
>>741926103The ghosts dont have genders
>Chapter 3: We get Tenna in VHS-style crusty 3D>Chapter 4: We get Titan in unusually smooth pixel animation>Chapter 5: we get a real anime cutscene>Chapter 6 or 7: We get photorealistic CGI
>>741926127Now there's a theory that Susie is being possessed
>>741925828>Noelle is just Deltarune's Lord English That'd be a crazy direction
>>741926127They've been in denial for a long timeSome of them will cling to it for a while longer
Ch 1 had a clear antagonist, ch 2 had a goody antagonist, ch 3 had a tragic antagonist, ch 4 had an eldritch antagonist (the titan), ch 5 had a hero antagonist Wonder what's left
>>741926212Chapter 7 we get actual video of Robert making the game calling it now
>>741926212If the Gaster reveal is in like, corrupted found footage style IRL like a fucking Slenderman Series I will clap.
>>741926212>Chapter 8: your webcam turns on
>>741926137>deltarune 2 is a prequel where the protagonist is some new human carol Rudy and asgore and we weird route her ass
KRIS AND NOELLE BECAME THE KNIGHT
>>741925240I wasn't. I was hoping to have a bromance with best girl. Alas.
>>741926280(Goofy antagonist)
>>741926212>>741926291>>741926310>Chapter 9: the return of durag johnson
>>741926027Do the lore schizos have to jangle the Sans boss keys constantly in this way or can you come up with an actually good idea? Put in your fan game, dipshit.
>>741926324FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>741926027Rouxls being Gaster recontextualizes the mystery man we've been obcessed with sounding like I.M MEEN
>>741926037And only (You) can fuck them straight
>>741926127Disgust and depression. Suselle is by far the least popular ship even among lesbianfags
So did the mc get cucked or not?
is there a save spot in the town before the beach or do we gotta go swimming again in 2030 when chapter 7 comes?
>>741925919Toby isn't the type to make a character that's actually homophobic so what is actually Carol's problem with Susie anyway?
>>741926324but uhmotivationsyou know, what and why does the knight do this if it's an amalgam?
>>741926259Don't act like Toby hasn't encouraged it. Jesus the first half of this very chapter he devotes a bunch of choices and scenes to it
Freedom status>kris: 6/10>ralsei: 5/10>susie: 0/10>noelle: 11/10>jevil: 7/10>spamton: 8/10>gerson: 5/10>mew mew: 3/10Accurate?
>>741926212>Chapter 7 is just real life like that one gag from Family Guy
>>741926430Femdom status?
>>741926245God that would be so shit. Hussie can't help but ruin everything he's connected to, including other franchises.
>>741926324Like in Live-A-Live where (You) play as Odio and play as all the final bosses
>>741926408Yes, but he gets uncucked in another route so it evens out.
>>741926430Gerson is fucking dead nigga and he gets 5 while Susie gets 0? You sure about that?Also jevil is 999
>>741926423She's a rich girl with her life probably all planned out already her mom doesn't want her running around with dirty dinosaur hoodlums
>>741926280The you were the bad guy all along one.
>>741926103This, Mad Dummy is the worst half
>>741926408Nope. We got the girl. And we'll live happily ever after.
>susie and noelle acting weird and eerie! >Fate is controlling them!no, you are upset they are a yuri couple that are ignoring your self insert.be better
>>741926430Jevil will be NA/NA
>>741925584>Toby uses his Nintendo connections to let you go out of bounds and into Mother 1, completing the influence loop
>>741926127pic related is me rn
>>741926196>>741926380I don't think it's that crazy to imagine that the route involving basically breaking the rules of the game leads us into a serious confrontation with the "Rules Card" character.Hell, it may not even be Weird Route exclusive. Things really seem to be setting up that we'll have to seal Castle Town eventually. Perhaps that climb will include one last encounter with Rouxls where he gets serious about stopping us.A serious fight with this goofy fucker feels NEEDED at this point and could be all kinds of crazy.
>>741925808YOU THINK THAT'S WATER YOU'RE DROWNING IN?
Is weird route the only redeeming aspect of chapter 5, or should I even bother with its normal route?
>>741926537Fuck you, Kratos
>weird route chads get their own /x/pilled doe wife while normal route players literally get cucked
>>741926534"Lived".
>>741925498that's why she keeps all the heart pillows, and why she refers to us specifically.
>>741925962>Flowery even suggests closing Castletown instead of the flower shop It's weird, he said so much important shit that you expected would be brought up at the very end but then nothing happened.
>>741926408Depends on your definition on who the mc is
>>741926324so they basically cause the roaring in the weird timeline and via time fuckery they want to do it in every other timeline where they don't get together. not a bad theory, I'll ride with you on it anon
>>741926127I really didn't thinkThat a game this mainstreamWould go the NTR routeYou kind of have to admire the audacity of this piece of shit dev
>>741926582meanwhile people with taste just laugh at the cucks and don't play this tranny cuckold simulator
>>741926212>Chapter 0: Earthbound-style clay models
>>741926408kris is cuckedsoul gets the girl
>>741926324>Goes back in time to become Kris's own adversary Homestuck Paradox styleWho did this in Homestuck?
>>741926425We have no idea what the Knight's motivations are because Toby is being vague.But we do know that Noelle wants to go fuck shit up, and that as much as Kris wants to deny it, also feels the same.
>>741926593There's no way to ditch Susie long enough to interact with a light pillar, correct?
>>741926430Kris 7/10Ralsei 7/10Susie 0/10Noelle 11/10Jevil 7/10Spamton 6/10Gerson 8/10Mew Mew 5/10
>>741926324Wouldn't that mean they would defuse in the light world ?
>Try to ride the Ferris wheel with Noelle to see what happens>she flat-out rejects KrisThat probably hurt the most out of everything
>>741926324This is cool but it would be impossible to explain on the main route for players who are unaware of the weird route's existence
>>741926628I'm not shocked. Toby loves his japanese media. What's more japanese than ntr?
>>741926575chapter 5's gameplay is the best so far, still worth playing
>>741926628Is it an NTR route? I always thought Kris/Susie shippers were setting themselves up for disappointment, since Toby never felt like the kinda guy who would write a romance with a player MC. He feels like one of those Indie guys who'd think himself "above that".
>>741925240Im only attracted to men (male) and Noelle still arouses me.
>>741925590>>741925794there's a lot of shit that is obvious but missed cause apparently people lack critical thinking. like aqua representing kris, which not only genders kris as a girl but connects kris to jevil via the copious shared phrases.
>>741926717>in the final chapter of deltarune, you can invade other people's games and fight against them as the final boss
>>741926697>>741926430And why the fuck is spamton so high? We can SEE the puppet stringsIdk seems more like a ranking of what characters you like than anything
>>741926582>the biggest Krusie content in the game is Susie trying to cheer Kris up on the Weird Route
>>741926715If you do the other stuff with noelle first you can. Otherwise I think she's being genuine in thinking that you're just fucking around by asking.
>>741926717Simple, leave the Knight as this enigma in Main Route. Have them stop it, but not reveal who it is and leave this mystery.Then Weird Route is the explanation/answer.
Honestly, even during chapter 4 I didn't really believe that Sans from Undertale was also Sans from Deltarune. Now I feel like a massive retard.
ten jannies seething the Sneedpost Manis waiting for the touch of his ban spamming shitposts out without a planlike the every dailywish that bothers the Sneedpost Mancould I do something to make him laughinside my little thread made by a fagso he lived theSneedpost Man, Sneedpost Manwith his memes in the sandso he standsto watch the whole wide boardevading a banway high up in the skywith Simpsons in his eyesain't it nicethe life forever forSneed's Feed and Seed
>/v/ will unironically look a a bad girl literally trying to go into a suicide pact with the one she loves and say "wife"This shit would not be hot in real life and you would immediately call the cops on a girl like this.
>>741926593he even implies heavily that sealing mycastletown would outright solve the major problems and prevent the roaring.
>>741926813Being totally convinced of anything in this is just silly. How many loops does this coaster need before you stop pretending to know where the ground is?
>>741926765No it's made very clear that 1. Susie is in love with Noelle, 2. Kris is in love with Susie, 3. You cannot pair anyone else with Krism. You have to be present for all their dates. There's a hot springs scene where Kris confesses and Susie ignores it and monologues about how obsessed she is with Noelle. End of chapter is Noelle moving in with you. Basically one long humiliation ritual. It's NTR
>>741925498does this mean if Carol just relaxed she'd look like a wrinkly Noelle
>>741926821It's not a suicide pact if you literally have magic and can break reality. They didn't drown at all.
>>741926821I don't have an issue separating fiction from reality.
>>741926821we are blessed with contextually knowing that this is a video game, and that said hot bitch is acting like this...because its a video game.
>>741926821What can we say? You just gotta love a woman with passion.
>>741926656More that the consequences of what you do in the future affects the past in a way that the past causes the future to happenThe Knight causes Kris to help create the scenarios that bring it into being in the first place>>741926717This >>741926806You'd never know, it's just that at some point in normal Chapter 7 you'll fight and beat the Knight and that'll be the end of it. You'll never know who it wasBut in Side B you'll fight and beat the Fun Gang
>>741926715If you get her nostalgic about back when they were close like with the ballot (Noelle as Queen Kris as King and showing her the ballot) she'll ride the ferris wheel with Kris
>>741926674>We have no idea what the Knight's motivations are because Toby is being vague.this is why people don't respect people who play video games
>>741926765How about you play the fucking game instead of posting your headcanon? Do you really think I give a fuck about your "impression" of Toby Fox?
>>741925240>normal routeHave to put up with tons of inane shit, your own life is spirraling out of control and people you thought might show interest in you see you as third wheel>weird routeRomantic double suicide in the face of a world that doesn't careWeird is a male powerfantasy, normal is a fucking lesson in "You thought this was about you? Nah, but even if things suck, you have to be the bigger man :)"I hate millennial writing.
>>741925240Im not.Zackary911 animation with Ralsei when?
>>741926647trying too hard
>>741926593>>Flowery even suggests closing Castletown instead of the flower shopListen what I don't get is why couldn't the flowers be moved? Do their physical bodies still need to be cared for in a way they can't be done as Darkners? It should just be a matter of packing them up and walking them right over to the closet and chucking them in and presto. They wont die in that five minute walk especially if you keep them in the case.
>>741926821LOVE makes you do crazy things, anon
>>741926947>"You thought this was about you? Nah, but even if things suck, you have to be the bigger man :)"Dude I picked this up when your created character gets deleted and you're told nobody gets to pick who they are in this world. If you couldn't sense that this game would be all about hating the player then idk what to tell you. This game fucking sucks and it always did.
>>741926537Noelle literally told you she feels like she's being dragged through the motions of her own life
>>741926821I actually did have a girlfriend that strangled my dog (she lived) because she kept barking while I was out cutting the grass.I almost killed that woman
>>741926430Could Gerson be argued to be a 10/10 since he transcends the concept by not even needing it?
>>741927025Get the fuck out of this thread if you haven't played the game you utter mongoloid
i'm of the opinion that Chapter 7 Side B is something else entirely, and that we can still continue the Weird Route without forcing your way through the lake
>>741926997I imagine without Asgore's devotion there's nothing giving them purpose in a different world, like Gerson.
>>741926997Anon, flowers are living beings. They need water and other stuff in order to survive.
>>741926997reality doesn't stop existing just because a fountain exists. the fountain worlds aren't real. the flowers will wither and die.
>>741926715Don't give up. Flip all the kriselle flags and we can surely turn this ship around.
>>741926947>kris>youDid you even play the fucking game?
>>741926813Honestly, what I find most curious is that Deltarune kind of seems like a simulation world, but Sans is clearly from it at the same timeIn-between real and fake I guess? I also think it’s interesting that you can give him a drawn image with 4 people on it, but on the Weird Route it’s always stuck at 3 people
>>741925718I'll stick that in my reblog!
>>741927028>when a teenage girl screams "its not a phase!" this means destiny and fate are puppeteering her.get over yourself chud.
>>741927128Did you? You play as his SOUL
>>741926537misunderstood the plot award.
>>741926997flowers need light dumdum
>>741926997They're special flowers that ordinarily wouldn't last longer than a day. They're only still around because of Asgore caring for them to an extreme degree
>>741927028Yeah because she's a fucking NPCKris "CHANGED" because they stopped being an NPC and became our vessel. Kris and Noelle can do things A Kris and A Noelle couldn't do on their own because we're pulling on their strings.
>>741926997Flowers can't live in the dark forever. He even says this.
>>741927082Why would I play a game whose fans are turning on it after 8 years? You all got cucked lol. Wouldn't wanna be you in any capacity whatsoever.
Okay I'm out indian hours are too much for me. Phone niggers and secondaries and cuck shit and rage bait I can't take it
>>741926537>We MUST be BETTER
>>741925718I want the real Dejiko not this fraud.
>>741926821>bad girlYOU made her that way on purposefor a purpose
>>741927086Dataminers didn't find anything, but maybe there's stuff in previous chapters once you trip that flag in the weird route
you gotta laugh at the people who thought toby was a secret chuddie or empathized with their theorizing and fanwank because he said faggot in an earthbound romhack from almost 20 years ago
>>741926821>implying dying right beside your beloved isn't peak romanceCoward.
>>741927228why are you even talking about a game you don't didn't even play then
Mew Mew Rimmy Cutie!
it’s kind of funny that people will scream that you got cucked while also being fedoralards and not see the irony
>>741926127I have nothing but my Cope and I want nothing more. It has been, it still is, faithful to me.Why should I begrudge it, since during the hours when my soul crushed the depths of my heart, it was seated there beside me?O Cope, my media literacy ended, you see, by respecting you, because I am certain you will never leave me.Ah! I realize it: your beauty lies in the force of your being. You are like those who never left the sad fireside corner of my poor black heart.O my Cope, you are better than a Kino-Cinema: because I know that on the day of that final agonizing chapter, you will be there, lying in my sheets, O Cope, so that you might once again attempt to enter my heart.
>>741926813You know, if Undertale Sans is actually Deltarune Sans from the weird route, it does raise some questionsDoes Sans already know the things Kris has already done, or does he learn later?If he doesn't know yet, then how come he only gives Kris breadcrumbs in the weird route but not in the normal route?Also, maybe the weird route ending will be more reminiscent of Undertale where you're erasing the world, for Deltarune's case, it may be erasing the program
>>741927294yeah okay but the problem is you have no love anon and you never will
>>741925843Ralsei tea...
>>741926558>ralsei's insistence on not breaking the rules because bad shit happens>us seeing the direct consequence of flowery breaking the rules (the knight being able to ignore his fake stats and attacks)>but the whole point of roulxs is that, as the rules card, he can just arbitrarily define them.OUR. FUCKING. HERO.
>>741927296I just like fucking with the fans of this game. I especially am enjoying it right now since people are finally realizing what a dogshit ass game deltarune always was.
KrusieGODS never stop believing. Your faith will be rewarded if you copemaxx
why did the flowers show up the way they were in Kris's fountain? was he even around during Asgore and Toriels wedding? even if its Asgores shop I don't get why they showed up but Susie couldnt get Gerson.Just a plant thing?
>>741927278Whats likely going to happen is that all chapters will be updated to include new content for whatever shenanigans will occur.
As a fox fan I am delighted by the copious amounts of FOX in this chapter.
>>741927369Embarrassing
The knight somehow managed to break the glass in the lightner world to kill flowery?Thank fuck the knight only went at that glass and not... all of them.And Kris really did all this just to stop us from having the shelter code.
I want Kralsie...
>>741926324Wait.HOLY FUCK, THIS IS THE SAME AS THE "NOTHING CHANGED" TEXTWEIRD NOELLE'S BEEN THE ONE THERE SINCE THE START.
>>741927369You want a medal for being a retarded faggot? Fuck off
>>741927404a bath scene is more than anyone else gets
>>741927369where
>>741927395>>741927423Replying to it will surely make him go away
>>741927372you guys are copemaxxing so hard that we are at risk of a krusie chaos god forming in the warp.
>TV screen and fontSo what does it mean?
>>741926408Only in normal route
Did any of you guys realize this is "Raise Up Your Bat" yet?>Come FOLLOW ME INTO THE DARK>With your heart as the ARK>Which shall GUIDE YOU THE WAY>THROUGH THE WAVES
>>741925828That's a lot of strikes.
Noelle and Kris don't drown and it's not a double suicide, Deltarune is a video game even in the context of it's own world and Noelle has a knack for breaking games. She's literally taking you to the other side of the lake and is the only way to get there.
>>741927417>Noelle knows about Kris hating being a humanoh yeah, they fucked. That's "deepest, darkest secret" territory.
>>741927369Based
>>741926324Well...that kind of explain why she can use some of Kris' swords and the black knife. That also means that Kris in a way was the knight all along...
>>741927373Flowers are a special case as they aren't Darkners. Kris perception of them has no bearing on how they manifest as they decide that
But who closed the original fountain? Was it never closed? Is that why castle town is just kinda there?
>>741925764>>741925845Yeah I'm certsin it is
>>741927373Does Shinto Animism theology explain this?
>>741927471"DEVICE THEORY" is a theory like gravity is a theoryIf you want to be extra schizo, think of the True Lab tapes
>>741927417OH SHIT THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE
>>741927471(the censors are gonna kill us for this one)
>>741927395>>741927423Lol.
>>741927541The reddest red herrings in existence
>>741926821The problem with a crazy chick isn't that I couldn't deal with her. I have a legitimately schizo sister. But I'd probably chicken out at the suicide part and shed lay there dying alone.
>>741927550you didn't need to post this image
>>741927503>Noelle and Kris don't drown and it's not a double suicideYeah but that's like saying "It wasn't rape"It might not be literally happening but it's absolutely what's happening
>>741927207I don't feel like the scene is particularly well written or honestly even enough. would it have killed toby to add an additional scene or two? it's the same thing with dino girl all of a sudden being psyop'd. instead of all this filler with trannies, why not give us a better setup? everything is written with the knowledge that the fanbase will pick it apart for months, it hurts it overall
>>741927303I'd rimmy her if you know what I mean
>>741927417>WR Noelle is the one that discards our vessel FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>741925475Oyakodon is always the best
>>741927638boing
>>741927638I save every aqua I see
>>741925475>FOTM melodramatic engagement bait art
>>741926779>ch.7 mechanic is rollslopQuill me tobiason
>>741927471You LOVE TVWe all LOVE TVEverything is TV
Remember to pick up Aqua's Knife on your aborted weird route save fileNoelle might need a good weapon later
>>741927417Well only issue is they say the original black shard piece from the old asgore fountain matched the one in the computer lab, so someone has to be the knight before and then passed the mantle to Noelle.
>>741927743>Reply slop
Any links to the full ch5 ost anywhere?
Is it reasonable to think Kris might’ve had a crush on Noelle as a kid? And likely has one on Susie now? That’s pretty brutal.
>>741927767Depending on whether or not we can get our grubby mitts on the Twisted Sword, it's not entirely necessary, since you can just have Kris use the sword and Noelle can take the Black Shard.
>>741927803thanks for the engagement, now please like my [melodramatic serious fanart of a pixel character in shadow]
>>741926997its been explained to you in game.the flowers are living beings that need light and water, ontop of being extremely special ones that need extensive care just to stay alive.they would wither, the dark world existing doesnt change this.floradinns, leaflings, and netskies are all plants as well, they will end up withering in the home town dark world not long after susie brings them over. terakotas will end up losing their bloom as well.
>>741925240SAY IT!
>>741927369>>741927616>>741927743
>>741927837I've just beel istening to it on youtube, yoby posts it there
>>741927471it's going to be like Inscryption, trust
>>741927758After all, any monitor can be a television with the right setup.
>>741927784not really if time travel is involved
>>741927878See? This is what toby thinks of his fans. Why would I want to play a game made by someone who hates his own fans? Meanwhile, having fun shitting on deltarune nerds isn't a waste of time at all because I'm having fun.
>>741927878but i'm not that guy also, I'm not going to praise toby for giving random ass dramatic scenes without proper buildup
>>741926821In real life I am stronger than all women and I know how to swim.
I just finished my playthrough, haven't been to any of the threads yet.So chapter 5 weird route pretty much confirms that deltarune is canonically a videogame in the universe, right?Noelle is obsessed with glitches, bugs and weird stuff in games she plays.She realizes she's an NPC following programming in a town surrounded by out of bounds nothingness (which is why she can't change or run away anywhere because there's nothing outside the bounds of hometown)She then realizes Kris is doing something he's not supposed to (she doesn't realize it's also just another preprogrammed path) and thinks she can use his power to break free from the game by going out of bounds through the lake, that as long as they say proceed the game will allow them to move past the invisible walls blocking them from leaving/doing actions they're no supposed to.The bread item from Sans references leaving breadcrumbs which is a references to the Mother 1 bread crumbs glitch that lets you get out of bounds.At the end we see a fucking tv screen with a console command writing a-la pony island/inscryption.This shit is fucking crazy man, did I miss anything?Were people losing their mind in the threads about this?
Is Flowery the best chapter villain so far? He somehow managed to make me hate/suspect him almost immediately, laugh at his antics, empathize with this plight, even root for him in the end, yet still understand that I also need to beat him to continue on. When he learns his efforts were wasted, that the very person he did it all for didn't need it, he accepts it immediately. He blows the fuck out of ralsei for being a hypocrite, his song is great, he holds his own against the knight for longer than most would through sheer willpower.There's the "villain did nothing wrong" trope, but Flowery was 100% right in his convictions and his only mistake was existing in a world where he never stood a chance to begin with. Just a flower given the opportunity to return an ounce of the love and care it received. Fuck. He's so cool.
>>741927859I feel its implied he may have had a thing for Noelle when they were kids based on how he reacts to old photos in the house, trailing off once he gets to Noelle. There is also the ferris wheel talk implying Kris' scaring antics on here like riling up the ferris wheel wasnt to be a dick but to cheer her up and take her mind off things that made her sad
>>741927983we realized toby is using that as a crutch for not explaining any of the many, many plot threads in 1,2,3,4, yeah
>>741927865a wonderous reminder that 4chan got gobbled up by sharty indeed
>>741926403Nobody liked Undyne/Alphys in Udertale either. Doesn't change anything.
>>741927417>WR Noelle becomes Lord EnglishAll roads lead to Homestuck
>>741927921I don't think it's time travel. Time travel is not the best writing it makes for too many plot holes and cop outs. Saves and resets make sense, but Noelle time traveling far outside the bounds of the game's timeline is just... Bad
>>741927335Maybe Sans feels like it’s his fault Kris slept in all day in the Weird Route, and he’s extending an olive branch. Or he notices something is really wrong, even if he isn’t as good as his UT counterpart at that.
>>741927946If you take any of Toby's talking to the player meta shit personally you might unironically have autism. This isn't even an insult.
>>741927983It was about 50/50 between "WOW WEIRD ROUTE WAS GREAT, but way too short fuck toby fox" and "FUCK TOBY FOX NORMAL ROUTE ANSWERS NOTHING AND IS EXTRA GAY, gameplay is decent though"
>>741928016He's a bastard that I still kinda want to strangle and yet definitely a highlight.
>>741928016He was fun. Understandable motives but played in a way that you can and likely were intended to hate him anyway with how he came across
>>741928016I think he might be actually. He even overshadows his own chapter's secret boss which was unheard of before chapter 5
>>741927501>strike 1: [Angel with Tattered Wings] and the ferris wheel with her imagining flying off with angel wings and also her dressware when she was younger etc...>ball 1: image of virgin mary but it's Noelle with the red dot is made>strike 2: random anon says let's start a noelle cult, random anon thinking about noelle coming out of the screen and decides to make a tulpa because it came to him in a dream.>ball 2: schizoanon freaking out over the christmas/thorn-ring/immaculate conception idea>ball 3: schizoanons with twin peaks references and laura palmer's angelic redeption>strike 3: old post resurfaces about Toby's fever dream and how he felt so cold during it that it wasn't really possible to move>ball 4: the sounds playing when "thinking about Noelle" and the red nose dot>strike 4: THE ANGEL WILL MEET WITH ITS DESIRE>ball 5: DESS DROWNED theories emerge due to ERAM fuckery>strike 5: this chapter and everything about breaking the fourth wall in the weird route
>>741926423Let me ask you, if you had a daughter that you expect great things from and then fucking Barney the Dinosaur from the hood decides to take her, what would your reaction be?
>is green>gives you eggs>speaks in handsWelcome back, Gaster!
>>741928102I do not like green eggs and hands
>>741926878>There's a hot springs scene where Kris confesses and Susie ignores it and monologues about how obsessed she is with Noelle. Damn, maybe it really is NTR.
>>741926212Chapter 6 is the CGIChapter 7 is Noelle becoming real and stabbing you from behind
>>741927983most of the discussion of Deltarune chapter 5 has been about he gay cringe yuri bullshit that Susie obsessed over for the entire chapter.It seems like about half of people think Toby is a hack fraud that's bad at writing now and half the people think that Susie is being mind controlled by the dark world and having her brain overwritten and controlled to conform to the prophecy.
>>741925847>spoilerThe 2012 one?
>>741928016problems with the chapter aside, the final build up and fight with flowery is my new favorite chapter finale>FLOWER MAN FLOWER MAN
>>741928038engagement bait art isn't amazing anymore. toby could fart out a quick cutscene of noelle reciting a creepy poem in the dark and there would be [melodramatic engagement bait] within minutes
>>741928016I expected him to be a memey joke villain but he turned out amazing. I wish we got more of him instead of the other gay flowers (except Aqua, Aqua is cool)
>>741926212Chapter 7 is an ASMR reading of the script by Toby
>>741927335The bread crumbs meta stuff is really weird coming from DT Sans
>>741926423Excluding potential plot awareness of other shit going on? To Carol, Susie is basically a thug/hood rat so even if she isnt against gays she'd feel Noelle could do far better
>>741928065It literally is directly speaking to you.
>>741928102>Doesn't have a boss fight because tobertson didn't know what to do with herdamn
If the plant amplification applies to all living animals then I have crack theory:>Image Friend is a stray cat that amplifies in the dark world who just happens to be following susie and kris around.
Oh also confirmation that anything involving the skelebros is just Gaster filling in holes with shit from Undertale because Deltarune version of it all got EXTRA wiped from reality. I am deeply curious how much Sans understands of what is even going on.
Concept art of an unused Undertale ice cave area depicting some sort of reptilian creature fighting an angel with what appears to be antlers
>>741927983I've been saying since before Ch. 3 that the entire theme from darkworld fictions coming alive to meta awareness of the game itself is all about escapism vs. acceptance/appreciation, and the villains are actively aware of the game's literal end and trying to avoid it. The game ends with you returning to the real world i.e. banishment.
>>741927983I kind of figured it was something like that based on the hints about "heaven" from spamton and elsewhere. And chapter 4 having a fountain within a fountain, hinting that the town might not be the base reality.
>>741926027I still feel like this is a pretty blatant hint.
>>741928034>>741928067>>741928150Wait what the fuck, people didn't like this chapter?Yeah I get it that Susie/Noelle stuff was a bit long but you still had plenty of Krusie stuff you could do at the festival and besides that everything else was great.
>>741928174You can just say you want 1990s slapstick instead brah
>the most enjoyable thing Toby Fox has made>a literal nothing burgerI'm going to replay this chapter tomorrow to pick up what I missed, but still.
>>741928038The future is now oldfag.
>>741926324A big hole in this theory is that Kris is actively against doing the Weird Route. I could see an angle for Noelle being the Knight, but Kris doesn't have much reason to do what the Knight is doing.That said, I like it for the hype moments and aura and absolute mindfuckery it would cause, so sure, fuck it, whatever
>>741928208>Cats imagined from objects: cunny and cuddly>Actual Catner: Eldritch horror that stalks you
>>741928238>Thanks for playing!>Game closes>"BUT YOU DON'T GET IT the implications of it doing that are huge! Its telling you you can't play any more!!11!!"I can see it
>>741928205>character breaking the fourth wall and being snarky>dude Toby Fox is literally insulting me and thinks I'm a bad person for triggering something that he put in the game Autism.
>>741928016I was so ready for him to be some sort of secret bastard to make way for the whole super poison flower but he was exactly what he presented himself all the way through No fucked up Flowey face. No trying to kill Kris. No being mean to Underlings. He and the other flowers just wanted to make a nice world for Asgore and honestly that new stalk where it shows Asgore just completely blowing off each of them really hit me harder than I expected. They're all too pure for this game of shitty people.
>>741928246it takes time to digest that the reason for the awful out of character writing across the entire chapter is explained in the game itself and is an intentional story beatyou gotta give /v/ that time
>>741928246People hating it was mostly the kneejerk reaction mostly due to overhype. We are now theorizing that Susie is literally getting brainwashed by the Prophecy as a cope. (Actually plausible based on dialogue WR and from failing the lake section in the WR)
>>741928206She did help out Orange at least.
>>741928292Breaking the fourth wall would be addressing the player. And it's telling you you're wasting your time lmao.
>>741927983yes we kind of suspected that for a while nowmost people were ignoring this in the threads though and it was just more rape and "toby is gay this chapter sucks" shitflinging
>>741928249I don't like TADC either doe>>741928246because all of the plot threads set up in 1,2,3,4 are going to be erased if he's just going for a simulation ending. which will piss people off because he's been engagement baiting people with those plot threads for almost 10 years
>>741927983No I think you're right. I've come to a similar conclusion. Pretty sure Carol is aware that the soul is the player controlling the game too with the red YOU. I actually think the save files are meant to be modified. We already have (most likely) dess trapped in the "code." She hears scratching (hard drive writes and reads). Somehow got out of bounds and ended up just data. Carol is trying to get he player to do certain things without realizing she is also an NPC too not in control (just coded to believe so).Susie saying she wants it to go on forever as the ending. Just leave the game open meta shit or something idk.
>>741928150>think that Susie is being mind controlled by the dark world and having her brain overwritten and controlled to conform to the prophecy.this doesn't apply to weird route, right? she still acts like her usual self and still cares about Krismaybe the prophecy isn't effective in the weird route
>>741928028Speaking of photos, what was the deal with pic related?
>>741928246>Yeah I get it that Susie/Noelle stuff was a bit longIt was extremely long, extremely cringeworthy, unavoidable, OoC on Susie's part, and directly cucks Kris. It's not just bad, it's actively insulting.
Susie is the final boss
With enough fire, you can even rekindle a dying star
if someone had a fishtank, would there be fishners
>>741927983>So chapter 5 weird route pretty much confirms that deltarune is canonically a videogame in the universe, right?YesIt puts her comment that Dess "left" in a really interesting context, because it'd be a strange way to say that Dess went missing, but maybe now she thinks Dess did what she's going to do and reach "the other side"But the other interesting thing is that she still doesn't seem to be aware of You. She still thinks she's talking to Kris, that Kris is doing this and Kris is the one who can make her stronger.She's not [[BIG]] enough to see the strings yet.What will happen then?
>>741928208I think it applies to plants because they're both "living" and "objects" specifically, a cat is just "living".Hey doctor W. Dinger, what are you doing with that box?
>>741928320>it takes time to digest that the reason for the awful out of character writing across the entire chapter is explained in the game itselfNo it isn't. It's just people making up excuses to pretend that Toby didn't waste an entire year on badly written yuri.
>>741928347>TADC>1990s??????????
>>741926127People seems less upset about the ship itself and more the abrupt and shitty writing of Susie to reach that point and it all being at the expense of Kris. >>741926765It's nothing about the ship itself it's how it plays out in the new content. The main focus of the plot itself shifts to not only how Susie is now 24/7 obsessed with Noelle, but Kris being completely ignored by Susie while repeatedly showing interest in her.
>>741928354She did still do all the festival stuff with Noelle off screen. And says flat out in the dark world that "Noelle like me, right?" So I think she's still compromised but maybe not AS bad as she is otherwise.(It'd be funny if good end requires no recruits)
>>741928396what about a bug or mold infestation in their place?Would there be bugners and moldners?
>>741928354>Thinks her chances with Noelle are tanked so she goes with the backupvery smooth susie>>741928362A torn photo getting rid of Toriel but leaving Kris and Asriel. potentially.
>>741928362it's a reference to chapter 3 torn in half photo
The Knight has become a lame villain and I don't even think they know what they're doing. This fucking idiot slammed face first into a wall. Imagine if Sephiroth slipped on a banana peel and also was a step behind you most of the time.
>>741928396Wait wouldn't the beetles in the flower dark world be special too? are they not actually beetles living in Asgore's store?
>>741928354it's there, just less effective due to the influence of the player. she goes to the festival to hang out with noelle anyway, as is ordained in the prophecy, but it doesn't stick because noelle is too freedompilled by that point.
>>741928320>it's bad... on purpose!
>>741928409>It puts her comment that Dess "left" in a really interesting context, because it'd be a strange way to say that Dess went missing, but maybe now she thinks Dess did what she's going to do and reach "the other side"it is pretty much confirmed that dess literally did exactly that and somehow went out of bounds through the lake
>set up lot threads in 1 and 2>filler in 3, minor plot escalation in 4>filler 5>uhhhh the whole ending was just a gaster game lol thanks for playing AND FUCK YOU FOR CARING ABOUT LORE FUCK YOU I can't wait for chapter 7
>>741928095>strike 3: old post resurfaces about Toby's fever dream and how he felt so cold during it that it wasn't really possible to moveanon, do you still have that link in hand? I really wanna see it
No matter how bad things may get these threads are always a chill time, fuck /vg/ trannies lmao
>>741928409Wonder if it will be some meme about reversing the perspective with some webcam or some bs. Like these are "alive" from your perspective but just a pile of code, so the whole screen goes dark and then you see your face or some webcam shit and you were the faggot all along!
>>741928409My hope is Kris flat out dies on the way over to NOWHERE and Noelle has to guide (YOU) to a new vessel or something. Or we get Vessel Noelle. Both would be cool.
>>741928347>because all of the plot threads set up in 1,2,3,4 are going to be erased if he's just going for a simulation ending. which will piss people offThat's their fault then for getting mad in the first placeIt was clear from the get go
>>741928246It's a combination of shippers hoping for Krusie losing their everloving minds, theoryfaggots hoping for shit happening getting impatient and nonfaggots hoping for good writing getting infected with more Tumblr virology. It was a nothinburger chapter with some cool elements (namely the platforming) and Toby's writers' finest cringekino (Blue, muh genders, Suselle being the game's focus now, guys am I Japanese yet).
>>741928409>What will happen thenLaugh and find a glitch to get out of bounds and reach [HEAVEN]
>>741928210
>>741928354Susie isn't corrupted in the Weird Route because Kris doesn't have enough access/time to groom her as the sacrificial replacement for the real "girl". That's the core conflict in the game between Kris and the Soul. Kris wants to groom Susie to die in the prophecy, the Soul wants to groom Noelle to destroy the prophecy
Chapter 6 will have your last chance to visit castle townAre you prepared?
>>741928246For the first few days at least /v/ threads are going to be full of people who did not actually play the game and are just here to shitpost and stir shitAnything that isn't bullshit is a knee-jerk reaction, nobody has really digested the game yet
>>741925498>>741925386If Carol underwent a Weird Route in the past then who was the Kris? Rudy? Is that why he's The Knight. Just like how Kris is a knight. And why his body is all used up and dying. Just like how Kris is going to get used up and starts dying without (You)
>>741928543You just don't want her to be used up, isn't that right?
I dunno why people are acting like Susie acting this way is weird, everybody I've ever known has dropped me like a bad habit the moment they get someone romantically. If anything Susie is hanging in there better than most I feel
>>741928016I think he's slightly fumbled because of his lackluster visual design (same with every other flower character in the chapter except Aqua). But he really packs the emotional punch we need to start disliking Kris as a person if we haven't already. Overall boring chapter but it has a fantastic climax and it makes you realize you have probably been playing as the main antagonist the entire time. We are controlling the person that needs to be stopped.
>>741928383do not fuck the deer mom, anon.
>>741928570I don't understand why the skelenigger cares. We've talked to him all of four times.
>>741928543>Or we get Vessel NoelleIt will almost assuredly be sexual>Whenever Kris messes with the soul yanking it out of him or back in its portrayed as painful or at least uncomfortable >When Noelle thrusts (YOU) inside her she likes it
>Toby tricked me into eating onion sani fucking hate that stupid piece of shit dog, i cant take it anymore
>>741928571Fucking tragic, innit?Lancelot ass prick.
>>741928605
>>741928487Asgore wasn't talking to the beetles and tending to them, connection to lightner seems to be a big factor in it as dark worlds kinda are mapped by relationship people have to objects around them.Plantners do break this rule a bit as they encode knowledge outside what someone who makes a fountain has and this world is strangely one that feels like one asgore would make despite kris making it. Plants basically sponge what people tell them and this expands when a dark world is formed.So random insects might not but fishners or dogners or catners probably really opened a can of wormners with this lore add imoLots of OCs going forward will be informed by extrapolations from platners kek
>>741928598toby could take a shit in his japanese toilet and digitize it so it will be the final screen of deltarune chapter 8 part D (niER crossover ending) and you retards will defend it
>>741928570Yup, Deltarune came first. But we weren't THERE for that run around. Gaster gained his power in Undertale, and then brought (YOU) back in time to Deltarune to make a new future. So it goes DELTARUNE(ORIGINAL)>UNDERTALE>DELTARUNE(What we are actually playing, remade by Gaster)
>>741928604That's the only problem that comes up is the human soul needed to seal the fountain... Or if it ever did seal
Okay okay I get the videogames stuff.But why did the Gaster followers/Goners at the festival were going FULL HAM, like they were referencing undertale and the fucking bird LITERALLY COOKED AND SERVED ONIONSAN?I understand that he heard a song from the lake but did they really have to go and fucking do that to him?For what?What was he gonna do even if he realized something about the lake?
>>741928485Yeah that just felt weird. Like how the fuck did they slam into a wall when they were already looking ahead. Why do they have this super bubble move that can incapacitate anyone and they didn't use it the last two times they met the players squad. It just feels so weird n
>>741928598I'm still on the part of disliking it from how badly written and shoved in your face Suselle is and this chapter has taken it to a ridiculous level People saying it's on purpose feels like a massive cope at this point given Toby has proven to get very spiteful, something he learned from Hussie
>>741928683He posted fem Kris dogshit coal, he's glad that chapter 5 is nothing but yuri NTR
>>741928673Or it's like imagine if asgore had bees instead of plants.The beetles wouldn't have special status but the bees would because asgore kept talking to the bees about his personal problems.
>>741928409>KRIS. KRIS. KRIS.>I NEED YOU.>TO BE BIG.>WITH ME.Oh my godSpamelle is real
>>741928271Kris' angst at being forced to be the Knight could be fueling the Knight's actions. Remember, Kris doesn't have a choice. WE do.
>>741928706All gaster stuff is red herring for redditors.
>>741928634milf pussy better stank or I don't want it
>>741928683In the case of your particular example, I might. The thought made me chuckle pretty good.
>>741928246do the krusie stuff and get canonically cucked? I mean, it'll be cool if it's intentionally shit writing that'll all be sorted in the next chapter like the current cope is. Still makes a shit chapter just a shit chapter on purpose
>>741928743hurrayOH NO
>>741928743
This chapter is just too much proof Fox wants to emulate David Lynch. I love the stream of conscious style of writing, but it's much harder trying to connect those random ideas into something coherent. I just can't see this chapter besides the festival connecting to anything to the plot.
>Get rid of the blur effect in the Weird Route Lake scene to see what Noelle actually says>Get pic and webm relThe lake is so much worse than the rose, did the dog know he'd get away with it tthis time just because he put on a blur filter?https://litter.catbox.moe/in5wpn1z09f0fl6u.webm
>>741928683Your posts are really obvious, you know.Put on a name so people can filter your pissbaby whining
I liked Cutie Mew Mew Magic
>>741926324>Kris emerges from the dark (dreams) to meet Noelle in the light (reality)Ruh-roh. My deranged sex fusion is going to murder everyone.
Holy shit, the UNUSED dialogue in the game's files has a double meaning. It's Noelle in a fucked up purgatory of uselessness. A reality where she wasn't used up but instead everything around her was.
>>741928817I am...tobyfox...
>play chapter 1>realize susie is homeless>tell people>lol no you're retarded she's not homeless she's just from bad upbringing or foster care she lives in the apartments duh>get to the end of chapter 5>mfw>mfw i have no faceanyway i never felt more vindicated FUCK ALL OF YOU FOR DOUBTING ME
>>741928814It is as close as you can get to a sex scene without it being a sex sceneSylvian cultist type shit.
>>741928706It doesn't mean anything. All this weird shit was in Undertale and he patched in more over the years and it amounted to nothing. We saw the don't forget picture this chapter and it was meaningless. You'll just get 10 million more vague lines and secrets and implications of some schizo shit going on that don't lead to anything happening in the story.
>>741928806>I just can't see this chapter besides the festival connecting to anything to the plot.It was a deeper look at Ralsei than the last chapter to be honest. Despite all the soft boy tears he's still hiding things. Because beneath the layers he's angry, he's tired, he's much Much more powerful than he's letting on and he gets pissed at anyone else breaking the game mechanics because it seems that it's what keeps The Soul on tracks and if you just start making things up Bad Times will occur.
>>741928814I could see all this even with the blur though?Could people not?It was still pretty clear.
>>741925462I can hear her ovulating
>>741928857She does have a home, just not one that misses her
>>741928825it's great
I need to stop going on twitter someone brought up a list of points to rebuttal against the lack of explanation and one of the points was "we know why asgore named his store 'flower king'."
>>741928920making up mechanics didn't help against the knight lolbut they fucking RL killed him from the darkworld somehowsavage
>>741928016He was right in the end-it was a battle of ideals, really.
>>741928814Imagine her making this face while riding you.
>>741926103a boy's soul in a girl's body makes for the best combinationno, I dont approve of troons
>>741928814This honestly feels like it could make for a good romance if I had even the slightest faith that's what the route would actually go for and that it wouldn't just cuck out to another non-ending, or world-destroying ending.
leaked chapter 7 side B ending dialog...HAHAHA....I am....crazy noelle! Woah...did we leave the game...woah, is this EL PASO....just LIKE IN TWIN PEAKS THE RETURN....holy shit...kris!!!kris....it's not EL PASO...it's UNDERTALE, TEXAS...WHAT YEAR IS THIS???
>>741928857she's not homelessher home life just sucksshe's living in the closet now because she has completely succumbed to the brainwashing of the fake world. You know how literally the entire dark world in chapter 5 was specifically about the dark world trying to make a perfect peaceful existence for Asgore so that he would reject reality and live with them forever?Asgore was strong enough to refuse and escape.Susie was not strong enough. She failed. She was consumed.
>>741928887>Sylvian cultist type shit.Funny you mention that, considering the name of the backing drums in that scene.
>>741928837It still sounds like Dess to me
>>741928965I'm thinking it's either that making up mechanics lets the bad guys just ignore the game entirely. Or going too far off base with making shit up causes the prophecy to get pissy and just snap things back on rails. Or a full on time collapse type thing happens based on Ralsei saying the world would get torn apart.
Knight is gathering the OG crew. Got stopped trying to take toriel but got undyne and asgore. Why? That just leaves alphys, sans, and toriel again.Hell alphys seems suspicious. Shes the one who sent Susie instead of noelle with Kris. She also freaked out Noelle who thought she knew everything about the church haunted house...
>>741928814I didn't notice her voice getting deeper
>>741928619aqua and seth seem to be the only 2 with presencegreen is one note, orange is one note, blue is ehh and yellow is negative man but soul flower.
the only real thing that pissed me off a bit in this chapter is early on in the dark world where flowery and ralsei were doing the whole setup of "you can't just give yourself infinite stats! you can't have infinite money! oh use the menu kris!"and it was all just a setup for a small joke where ralsei does the chapter 3 dark world explanation for the game mechanics layer for 5 secondsthough later on flowery does say some shit about ralsei being able to burn him by changing his stats or something?but then we see stats don't matter in the knight fight and are fake?so what was that all about?
>>741928894I feel like we can't say it doesn't mean anything anymore when the main reason we've been thinking about the other side of the lake since chapter 2 has just been fucking brutally murdered in the same chapter where the weird route happens. With the other side of the lake
>>741928894The picture itself may be meaningless, but it's a nice confirmation that Deltarune Sans and Undertale Sans is the same personHim having experienced weird route would also explain why Sans is so fucking hostile towards Frisk and said Frisk would be dead if it wasn't for Toriel's promise
>>741928825I did too. Certainly a more than most of the chapter.
Carol, Rudy and Dess are the Knight. Carol was the Knight in chapter 3 since she knew when exactly Toriel would be sleeping which would give her the perfect opportunity to kidnap her. Dess was the Knight in chapter 4 with how strong and ruthless she was due to her having spent more time in the dark world. Rudy is the Knight in chapter 5 with how weak he turned out to be at the end of the chapter and somehow almost crashing into the wall
>>741928965It didn't but the Knight seems to be playing ball in a way. Kris and Ralsei are running a scheme that they try and get rid of you in scenes to plan out. Kris is working with the Knight so it's not far fetched that they're on the same page at some level. The Knight even plays along with a boss encounter you can 'win' before you get sucker punched. Flowery is outright saying at multiple times he needs to come clean with the Soul sooner or later instead of trying to keep fabricating this story for their own purpose.
why do people even like this gay shit
>>741928989>Uuu, why can't human Kris use magic like me, a real witch! Kris can only change forms!
>>741929057Or the knight is able to hurt someone in the light and dark world at the same time in ways outside the bounds of what should be possible.
>>741928857>>741929005I just realized Kris' home could have become her second home if Toriel hadn't fucked it up.
>>741928016man, I need to talk about out how fucking rad the boss theme is. The leitmotif first used in aqua's introduction has a distinct vibe suited to make you think it's her own little unique thing, then as each flower is introduced and has their own spin on it, you build this anticipation for how each one will sound while the melody worms its way into your brain. and finally when the chapter reaches its climax and it's Flower Man's turn and the lyric track appears it just hits you hard. I've been looping it all day.
Beatrice is the Knight
>>741926127>>741928783Is it time to update the chart?
>>741926324But that also means the Knight is operating without a soul right?We are the missing piece?
>>741925240Goddamn Noelle's song in the weird route is great
>>741925907>Doe crawls out of->Instantly sends the whole rig the desk and me into the floor with her
>>741929181>Live-A-Liveuh ohqrd?
>disable voice clips>can't enable them againi miss them man
>>741929170asgore literally brings up that toriel is already struggling to keep the lights on with just kris by herselfso i doubt she could take in susie
>>741929140It was the right combination of silly and endearing with a tolerable level of gay before the most recent chapter went all-in on the gay. Next chapter will make or break the game or both.
>>741929252I'm 99 percent certain thats cope on Asgores part. There is no indication that their living situation is under any sort of strain
>>741929252asgore's the one that's clearly destitute. There's no sign that toriel has any money problems, asgore is coping and projecting because he's a divorced cuck who still loves toriel and imagines that she must be secretly unhappy and having problems without him
>>741926964>Ralsei cum fartsNo thanks, bro.
>>741928487it's a flowershop, small insects being in the soul isn't unheard of
>>741925240Does anyone have that weird route Queen dialogue that talks about how Noelle has "woke" too much and she needs to sleep. The picture
>>741929152The Knight is able to destroy a darkner in the lightworld in ways that aren't usual. I am not sure even snowgrave can do that.
>>741929227play the game, it's basic tobycore
>keep saying itNice dunkey reference toby
>>741929318>>741929359I mean it could be the case but it really didn't feel like a cope, he seemed to be kind of genuine for that specific interaction.but who knows
>>741925657What if... onionsan was killed to facilitate this?
>>741926964>Ralsei cum fartsYes please, sis.
>>741929370
>>741929378I feel like the computer lab would be full of strangely cold computer mouses, at the very least.
>play weird rotue>greet susie>"oh hey kris, i just spent so much time with noelle it was great, you want to see the end of the festival shit before I take you to her?">right before getting to the lake so i can escape the awkwardness>you know kris, noelle and I got REAL close while you were asleep, but we do need a man slave"this feels like cuck shit, is this cuck shit?
>>741928814The text box going red symbolizes the fact that we are taking her virginity.This is all just a sex allegory.
>>741928081Tenna?
>>741929361>Ralsei cum fartsPLEASE.
>>741929234>he listened to the gay goatHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>741929404oh shitbut in the weird route susie says the gonerbird wasn't serving onionsan at the festivalso why would he only do that on the normal route
>>741926997They spell it out for you anon, those flowers werent even supposed to live more than a day.
>>741929429Why don't yougo to the lakeand find out?
>>741929429because you're a cuck for playing deltatroon in the first place
>>741928743i don't know why i have these spamelles but i'm sure glad i don't have to think about it ever being actually canon
>>741929406>>741929361>>741929463Besides that part.
>>741929404ngl thought this was one of those weird melted kid things from Made in Abyss at first glance
>>741929404imagine you're halfway through the lake PROCEEDing and this motherfucker pops up O HAI! WUT AR U GAIS DOIN? CAN I PLAY 2? PROCEEDINGS HAHA!
Noelle is LITERALLY Carol
>>741928187Is it though? who's the fucker that keeps teleporting and sometimes going out of bounds? its definitely Sans.
>>741929471>so why would he only do that on the normal routeHe's busy knocking people off of ladders in the Weird Route
>>741929404makes sense, onion would try to "save" them from drowning
>>741929514OH fuck. I forgot he was doing that one.is it finished?
>>741929471onionsan is killed on both routesgoner bird just doesn't show up at the festival to serve him on weird route because kris won't be there
>>741929483Artists sure work at hyper speed when it comes to drawing dead teens
>>741929550but rudy is fine in the weird route too
>>741929560Not yet.
After being able to defy him so much last time I guess I was just sort of disappointed that you couldn't fuck with Kris at all in this chapter.
Krisellefags are the backbone of the fandom, they always knock it out of the park with their fanart
>>741928743>be big with meArchitect Doe confirmed
>>741929429>>741928814
>>741929181is holy war really cuckshit? the stolen wife is literally brainwashed into it and the guy she's given too had no idea she was married because she was just delivered to himand when everyone's dead her spirit goes back to her actual husband after their son kills the other guy, knowing that he'll save the kingdom
>>741929471To Give everyone onion power.Though I suspect we're going to be diving headfirst into the lake in Chapter 6 anyways.
>>741929429A Noelle can only do Noelle things. And A Susie can only do Susie things.But is she really just A Noelle anymore? And (YOU) certainly aren't A Kris...
>The last prophecy probably said something about the girl being sacrificed >Susie freaks out, thinking it's her>Ralsei starts acting more like a girl, trying to take her place as the girl in the prophecy
>>741929590i mean the entire weird route you're basically fucking with kris by literally tard wrangling his ass to move at all
wait you mean to tell me that mew mew is a doll with someone's ashes in it
>>741925624I uhhhhhI uhhh accidentally fed onion san to the whole party....I...I'm gonna kill gaster and then myself brb
>>741929515Fuck I see it too
>>741926324>After we defeat the Knight in ch3 they "knight" kris (and, by extension, us) and thats how we officially gain the knight status
>noelle's sprite stops being wet>she's lit from belowthose sons of bitches really made it huh
>>741929629but if ralsei is the girl then who the fuck is the princeand don't fucking say lancer he's a non character
>>741929623>And (YOU) certainly aren't A Kris...And the game hasn't done shit with this idea
>>741929660no it's an anime figgie possessed by an actual ghost monstersaid ghost can't actually do anything with it in the light world though, so it just chills in the figure sometimes
why does my chapter 5 have a hollow star next to it
>>741929660Anon... Ghosts monsters can possess objects, which is exactly what happened here.
>Insert Chapter 7 Side B>mfw Tony’s splitting up chapter 7 into two parts
>>741929581Dang. I'm just glad Zack finally took the based cubpill and has been shitting out degenerate animations left and right. Truly the best timeline. Just need zonkpunch to fall in line next
>>741929660nothe doll is just the dolland a random ghost found and possessed it
>>741929660It's not. It's the Mad Dummy ghost Lightner from next door to flower king that has apparently been possessing a Mew Mew doll in there for a while. They couldn't do anything with it because magic isn't real though. It was only in the dark world it worked as an actual body and they got real ghost magic.
>>741929629>all the stupid gender shit was to trick the prophecy
>>741929683either kris panicked and made a fountain under water, they noclipped into whatever's under the lake, or the soul decided to light up for some reason
>>741929721hollow stars usually appear on unfinished saves with dark crystals collected
>>741929721what the FUCK????????
>>741929736Oh for fuck's sake you better not be right about this
>>741927471Deltarune, already happened, we're seeing a tape of it
>>741925624>in the fight against Flowery he doesn't even fucking bother faking his death animation and just sits there like a fucking bitch with a huge ass frown on his face.Wait whatI never had him get downed, I gotta see this.
>>741928837Who makes this SEXmantle variant? The pale white skin and bangs is HOT. I would like to find the SOURCE pls.
Mew Mew is literally Spamton with none of the build up, shittier song and shittier characterizationSpamton already does everything Mad Mew Mew does and conveys the same themes better.Whatever Toby was thinking with that secret boss he shat the bed completely, this fucking sucks
>>741926537I'm a yurifag and I hate Susie x Noelle because it's a bad ship that ruins both characters Simple as
>>741929660Ghosts are just a kind of monster, not a dead person. Kind of like skeletons. I think
>>741929227>MC becomes a big hero and wins a tournament which lets him marry a Princess who loves him>Everything going well>Demon King swoops out of fucking nowhere and kidnaps the Princess, MC goes to save her>Goes to go fight the Demon King>Gets separated from his best friend during the journey up the mountain to fight the Demon King>Best friend finds a secret passage that takes him to the top before the MC>Turns out the friend is jealous of having lived in the MC's shadow all this time>Due to some ridiculously contrived circumstances, he fakes a cave in and fakes his own death, MC thinks his progress is blocked and friend is dead>He kills the Demon Lord but can't find the Princess and thinks his friend is dead, turns back empty handed>Due to some more ridiculously contrived circumstances, the friend then convinces the MC to murder the King>MC is now a wanted outlaw, everyone hates him>Eventually decides to continue "So long as there's one person who believes in me" and goes to try rescue the Princess again>This time he finds the other passage his friend took and makes it to the top >Friend reveals himself and all the bullshit he did, they fight, MC kills friend>Goes to Princess, she now gives him a big speech about how he sucks and she doesn't love him anymore because he abandoned her while the friend came and rescued her she loves him instead>Princess then kills herself right in front of the MC's eyes>MC giga cucked, framed for murder, lost everyone and everything he cared about. Despite doing nothing wrong. All because his friend had a melty.>Nobody believes in him anymore>He goes crazy and becomes the new Demon Lord>He's the big villain of the game and this was all revealed in the final chapter. >Your characters basically tell him to Cope and Seethe and that he should have been a better man and accepted the Princess loved his friend etc>You kill him and he goes to super hell
>>741929404I thought this was a parody of that one alice in chains album from the thumbnail
doefags, honest thoughts on this chapter?
>>741929591https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW3ZGROFfmw
>>741929721just shows you have a shadow crystal on that save but haven't finished the chapter
>>741929759we've been saying this since last yearaqua vindicated femkris theory, and noelle commenting that aqua's knife is 'nostalgic' effectively confirms it
>>741929749We know mad dummy's secret ahahaa
>>741929736>Deltarune until 2030god please no
>>741929660No, it's a ghost. Ghosts aren't deal people in this universe, they're just a kind of monster. Napstablook and Mettaton are both ghosts. She's pretty much just some light world monster that was living inside of Asgore's anime waifu figurine basking in his kingly cummies after he hot glued it until the dark world appeared and suddenly now was able to move
>>741929790>Spamton already does everything Mad Mew Mew does and conveys the same themes better.Since when did Spamton have a vessel vs the soul of a vessel aspect
>>741929823Kris is fucking DEAD
>>741925624>in the fight against Flowery he doesn't even fucking bother faking his death animation and just sits there like a fucking bitch with a huge ass frown on his face.What.
>>741929790it's gotten so bad that people think a 'b' team did most of the writing this time around and that's why it sucks so bad compared to every other chapter
>>741929765if it was just the soul lighting up she'd still have wet hairit's either them noclipping out of bounds or falling into a dark world
what's raly's problem
>>741929660Mad Dummy ghost hijacked a Mew Mew related thing AGAIN
https://voca.ro/11cjzPYcxrHNcouldn't not do a cover
>>741928743This puts her pet name for Kris in an entirely different light.>Oh, Merry Krismaaaas--!
>>741929736Side B is the internal name of the Weird Route, dummy
what the fuck i just did the weird route and it is actually pretty chilling. I guess Toby tasked himself with creating a route more fucked up than literally murdering everyone and he passed with flying colors
>>741929332BARE FAWN CHEST ON MY BLUE BOARD
>If you stay in a dark world for too long you begin to change>Susie is becoming deranged>Forgotten man literally forgot who he is>Dess "left" according to Noelle in the weird route, we can assume that she didn't disappear but chose to stay in a dark world like Susie due to escapism. Maybe the knight is Dess after being so long in the dark that she forgot herself.>Rudy and Carol have been incessantly searching for Dess. Carol is obsessed with heart shaped objects and funnily enough Flowery is based on Rudy, but Rudy is a monster and Flowery is a human... what if he wasn't a monster during college?
>>741929784scottfalco
>>741929851>Finish chapter 7 in 2030>Please insert Chapter 8
>>741929823not a doefag but this chapter 100% redeemed noelle in my eyes after her dismissing kris in ch4, even on the normal route weird route is actual kino and easily the best part of the chapter despite only being like 20 minutes tops
>>741929823Only Noelle matters.
mad dummy is mad tranny lool
>>741929906how do you fail to abandon it
realistically how would susie react to seeing them that far out in the lake
>>741928210im convinced sans is the equivalent of a game admin or observer for gaster>shows up>says cryptic shit>clearly telepors just like in UT>instantly clocks the DETERMINATION we're using in the weird route>suspiciously asks for a drawing of people to remember us by>is taken aback in ch1 when you ask about his brotherdude basically exists to see if (You) are up to some bullshit in yet another timeline
>>741929227>>741929813The Princess along with the Love Interest from Bahamut Lagoon (that entire game is an NTR story), and Riona were considered the "Evil 3 SE Love Interests."Rionoa was a bit of an awkward fit since she's not really evil, just not that appealing as a love interest. But the Princess of LAL and the girl in Bahamut Lagoon were pretty widely hated.
>>741929928it's as they saya lot of people is a statistic, one person is a tragedy
>>741929979>oh god i fucked up big time oh god oh god what have i doneprobably
>>741928743>Don't you wanna be a big shot kris?huh... giga based if true
>>741929979
>>741929973I mean in chapter 5, if you go to the lakeshore and meet Noelle and choose stop she won't allow you to stop
>>741929823
>>741929736>2027chapter 6>2028chapter 7 Side A>2029chapter 7 Side Byup, seems to line up with 11 years forgotten man have said if you consider year 0 2018
>>741929979>hey why wasn't I invited to swim????
>>741929979This is a good example
>>741929979CANNONBALLL!!!!>Floats around for a few minutes talking to them, completely oblivious they're dead
>>741929979her only two friends drowned in the lake after noticing they've been acting weird for the past few days?she'd have a mental breakdown at best and join them at worst
>>741930026Side B mean it's really 8 chapters or is weird route's chapter 7 so crazy different that it is a chapter's worth of content?
>>741929847The dividing line for the fanart this time is if they can only draw Anime Crazy or Actually Crazy
>>741928570
>>741929736>>741929776>>741929851>>741929952>>741929924>>741930026'side B' is a general reference to some older games, where the other side of the disk (or a separate disk in some cases) would have a "remixed" version of the original game on it.
>>741929979Bro they are GONE GONE.(Honestly I expect Hometown just completely locked up the second shit actually for real broke and nobody can do anything anymore)
>>741930058My wife
>>741928246many people are salty that the chapter didn't contain a huge loredump (which will be coming in the next two chapters anyway...)and also krusiefags are turbo buttblasted that their ship has been buried in an unmarked grave and dynamited
>>741930026You forgot chapters 0 and 666
>>741929604>and the guy she's given too had no idea she was married because she was just delivered to himHe absolutely knew because Sigurd was famous and she was very clearly Sigurd's wife. He outright confirms it when he brings her out to see Sigurd die.And then the game goes to great lengths to justify him and even has Seliph and Diedre outright forgive him.
>>741929780>>741925624>>741929871yea that's just a slayer from guilty gear reference
>>741930107So does that mean CH 2 had a side A and Side B?Since Ch 3's sword route stuff didnt need the weird route and Ch 4's weird route only really mattered in the lightworld half of that chapter.Side B implies it is going to be a lot more different than those chapters doesn't it?
>>741930107I know, but that's its literal name in the game filesIt was found back when the Weird Route was discovered for Chapter 2
>Chapter 7 Side B Intermission III, First Part
>>741930058So spooky!
>>741930107The best thing tobby could do with side B/Chapter 0Is a different replay of the whole game, it would be awesome but the WAIT would be deadly
>>741929856It already conveys the themes of a vessel, since he pretty much acts as a ghost possesing the body of NEO as a vessel, and later even tells you that the shadow crystal was inside the vessel.It's not exactly 1 to 1, but it already conveyed the most important part of the vessel vs soul correctly, the separation of the strings that attached him, the subsequent "death" of spamton and how Kris is deeply disturbed by the event.The wishes of the vessel vs the wishes of the soul is the one thing Mew Mew has over Spamton, but it's executed terribly, and there aren't any lasting implications or impressions on the trio, unlike with Spamton.This was back in CHAPTER 2 might I add, such a nothingburger of a secret boss, the FINAL shadow crystal holder past the middle of the game, it has no excuse, especially the meta commentary of Ralsei and Susei talking about the super secret boss and all that shit, it feels spiteful, executed crappily on purpose
>>741929392First thing I thought of too.
>>741929979you know the town would blame their deaths on her, right?
>>741929823She wanted it the whole time, (We) won.
>>741929683pure determination, anon.every proceed, a little boost that keeps their HP from hitting 0.if we could actually see their HP i'd guarantee you that we'd be seeing that 0.0000001 shit from the asriel fight again.
>>741929928I think this is a wrong interpretationsusie isn't magically changing, she's just mentally ill and desperate for people who care about her, and the idea that the dark world isn't real is mindbreaking her
>>741926027Everything in this theory is nice but>missing blue soul modeDude you played the blue soul mode for the entirety of chapter 5, what do you think those platformer sessions were?
>>741930093I hate that this makes me laugh, damnit lol
>>741925431"didn't pay attention to asriel's favorite smash bros character" award(also he uses fire in an ACT in chapter 4, but it's quite subtle)
>>741929856What do you mean? His theme even contains motifs of Dummy/Ghost, he's quite literally a living dummy, now that I think about it, Toby gave us the same fucking guy but executed worse
>>741930158it's been a good number of years since i've played holy war so i can't argue but i was under the impression that he was unaware entirely that sigurd was married to deidrie i do remember it trying to make arvis sympathetic though, as he was really just a puppet for the cult and never had any real power to do anything to stop them
>>741930295Needs more bombs
>>741930295Pink rimjob (Ghost blowjob!)
>>741930175>>741930205in our case the side B remix of deltarune is likely a version of the game where noelle replaces susie, and all the consequences of having ice shock that early, along with snowgrave for 2-7
>>741929887No Toby wrote this chapter but he made it bad on purpose to make the next chapter cooler
>>741930243>the townThey are npc cattle, noelle already talked about simulation theory and how they are all stuck playing characters in hometown. why would anyone mention kris' or noelle's death? no one mentioned undyen or asgore either. It's almost as if, ""Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same...Except you don't exist?Everything functions perfectly without you...Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me."
>>741930357Without a DOUBT we needed more bomb attacks
>>741930026>>2028>chapter 7 Side A>>2029>chapter 7 Side BIf Toby releases the two sides separately I will curse his name for as long as I live.
We will need to do both side a, b and aborted b to get to chapter 8 and see the ending btw. Neither side a or b will actually end
>>741930093Oh my God.Its real, its actually REAL.
i can't believe onionsan is fucking dead
>>741928604Gee I wonder who it could be.
>>741930107wait wait wait wait wait.So just out of curiosity, did anyone try to reload their save files for the other chapters of the Weird route after doing the Weird route?
>>741930471OMG a fishner
>>741930207I'm pretty sure Mew Mew isn't trying to be a Spamton, just Jevil with a more explicit theme to it instead of>within this cage i can be anything i want instead of an npc in the real world(comparitively speaking)especially since the chapter is focusing on nostalgia and memberriesThough your criticisms ring true otherwise, she was mostly a fanservice fight with only foreshadowing and a great production fight going for it. Actually now that I say that Jevil part out loud, weren't people likening Jevil to Susie in the first chapter, and how his fight rewards work best with her?
How long ago was the Earthbound bread discovery made? Was it talked about on a previous thread? I just learned about it. It matches with that man Country Place.
>>741925431Surprising that people forget this was established as far back as Chapter 1In the tutorial, he presents a bullet pattern for you to avoid, that's a parallel to Flowey's "Friendliness Pellets" bit. If you keep getting hit by the bullets, he'll just show a bullet flying directly away from you in order to praise you. And last I recall, the bullets looked much like Toriel's fire bullets.
>>741925240
>>741930471so this confirms monsters don't naturally dust, yeah? considering you eat his flesh and all
>>741930342Not the clash of wants vs the body and the soul, though. The body wasn't conscious, is what I'm saying.
>>741928271Since the dude made a homosuck comparison, we can compare that with Dave.For those who don't know, Dave can control the timelines, splitting them, and he gets led by himself to die at an altar that grants him godhood powers. The thing is, one of the Daves has to die in a timeline, and you wouldn't want to be the Dave that dies, right? Kris knows if he goes through this route he'll be the Kris that dies, and tries to avert it in all ways possible.
Its funny how meta it is, Noelle finds Kris more interesting now after hes no longer Kris, and we find Noelle more interesting when shes no longer Noelle
>>741930342That's what bothers me so much, even Jevil, the first secret boss has this mystery around him, you get the first key, you talk with seem, start learning pieces of his backstory, you take a long elevator down, close to the depths where you finally find him trapped, you have to comb the dark world in order to find the other keys, forge them and finally meet him.I remember when I found that first Pink coin and saw that it was unique, I got excited, then I got to the shop and I saw the Pink key and I got even more excited, but there was no information on it, nothing to find about it, I combed through the dark world looking for where the key would work (before going to the top of the castle after talking with flowery)Once I found the keyhole and saw how Susie and Ralsei were taking the piss out of the whole thing I knew it was going to be garbage, and it was.Jevil also left you wondering the implications of his words, you leave Mew Mew thinking to yourself "What was the point of that whole thing"
>>741925462
>>741930564I mean the fucking Goner Goons did this shit. So they could have just been like VARIABLE.DUST=FALSE or some shit.
>>741925624>faking his death animation>Flowery fakes his stats to make himself look OP>Ralsei fakes his stats to make himself look UP
>>741930174Sure, but it's changed from past battles for a reason.
>>741930509ALSO I just remembered the fucking cages in chapter 3, they share the same color pallete with both mew mews(somewhat) while being an allegory towards Kris reacting to the players decisions
>>741930594the second ralsei said>oh boy i hope theres a memorable character with memorable musici mentally clocked out so fucking hard. the best part is neither the character nor music is memorableflowery is more of a schizo final boss than mew mew is
>>741928362A flower torn in half
>>741930592it's kinda funny how almost every fanart of wr Noelle can't capture the unhinge aspect of her expressions
>>741930564>onion is not dead, just chopped to pieces, just like in that one chaotic good barbarian vid
>>741930715that's because it takes talent to depict complex emotions and most fanartists have none
>>741930715they need to capture the style for it to work
>>741930686To be fair I think the expectation that all the bosses will be "schizos" is wrong and you're just going to be let down with that mindset. I don't think every chapter needs a schizo boss. In this case Mew Mew was more about the nature of escapism and fantasy which directly mirrors Susie's current plight, spending more time in the dark world than the real world. It being an anime catgirl, a genre often associated with escapism, is no coincidence
>>741930716>MEAT FACTORY
>>741930592>when shes no longer NoelleNoelle might feel that way but really this route show her at her truest
>>741930815Weird Route is THE Noelle, Normal is A Noelle.
>>741930107No it fucking didn't. Side b was just the continuation. You put in disc B or flipped a tape over to side B to continue shit
>>741930353Aida: I hear that Lord Arvis arranged a ceremonial reception for you with the entirety of the Belhalla royal guard. Quite the magnificent celebration of your glorious return is in order today, it seems.Sigurd: Thank you. After all that's happened the past few years, this ought to be a fitting conclusion. Once we're done I should look into getting my allies some compensation for their help. They certainly deserve it after all this!Aida: Indeed, sir...(Sigurd's army parades to Belhalla)Arvis: Ah, Lord Sigurd. Truly, this is quite the auspicious day. Congratulations on your triumphant return to the fatherland!Sigurd: It's good to see you too, Lord Arvis, and thank you for such a lavish greeting! If I may ask, where is His Majesty?Arvis: Alas, His Majesty is taken severely ill. He has become permanently bedridden. As such, I am administering all affairs of state on his behalf for the time being.Sigurd: Is that so? I'm sorry to hear that. I bet my misadventures didn't help His Majesty feel any better! Once we're finished here, I should visit the palace Arvis: ...I think not.Sigurd: Hm?Arvis: Sigurd of Chalphy, I hereby sentence you to death for your crimes of treason. His Majesty will not be seeing you, today or ever.Sigurd: W-what?! What are you talking about, Lord Arvis?!Arvis: Heh... You are only realizing now? You are far too naïve, Sigurd. Need I remind you that you and your father still sought to usurp the throne and plotted against the crown? Nothing has changed. It is my duty to exact justice upon you, in the name of my wife, Princess Deirdre. I trust you understand, Sigurd.Sigurd: P-Princess Deirdre?! That... No, it can't be...Arvis: Ah, of course. You've never met, correct? Very well. I suppose an introduction would be a fair parting gift before your demise. Come, Deirdre! Greet our guests!
>>741930471>wd bassterdammit
>>741927335>If he doesn't know yet, then how come he only gives Kris breadcrumbs in the weird route but not in the normal route?Your mom gives you a crumbly bread in the normal route, if you give it to Asgore instead of her he says it leaves a lot of breadcrumbs if you eat it. You gotta hold onto that one instead of giving it to Toriel or Asgore.
>>741930646>goner goonsgooners, if you will.
>>741930815WR Noelle is who she was in her childhood, when she did fucked up shit in her video games.It's as shrimple as that.
lazy piece of shit
>>741930715Toby pretends he's a bad artist (yes I know Temmie does most of the final sprite work) but he's very good at capturing expression in his "low-quality" artlike Tails Gets Trolled or the guy who does One Punch Man
>>741930353Arvis: Deirdre, allow me to introduce you to Sigurd: the spawn of your father's murderer, Byron. I trust you have some choice words for him?Deirdre: So... So this is... Sir Sigurd?Sigurd: Deirdre?! No... This can't be happening...Deirdre: Why... Why are you speaking like this...?Sigurd: Deirdre! It really is you! No... No, no, no...Deirdre: Do... Do you know me, sir?Sigurd: OF COURSE I DO! YOU'RE MY-Arvis: Enough! Deirdre, stand clear. This is an extremely dangerous man. Rest assured: this traitor will be punished.Deirdre: But... He... He's... Can't we have even a little more time?Arvis: Unacceptable. Guards! Escort the princess to the castle!Deirdre: Wait! Arvis, please! ...Just a little more time...(Deirdre is taken back into Belhalla)Sigurd: W-wait! DEIRDRE! Arvis, please! I beg of you! She... She's my...Arvis: Enough! I grow weary of your ravings. Attention, men! We no longer have any use for keeping the traitors alive. Move in on Sigurd and his party! The time to serve them their punishment has come!Sigurd: ...D... DAMN YOU, ARVIS!!
>all those videos/posts on how susie is so special because she can resist the prophecy>insane amount of cope saying she is nothing but a puppet of fatemaybe toby likes yuri?
>>741930686It pisses me off, especially because the secret boss in this chapter took a bit more work to find.It's probably the thing I despise the most about this new chapter.
>>741930564idk how ANYONE is actually falling for this shit as toby actually wrote onion being killed for a festival stand food. Did you forget this is the same hack that wrote the "HOLY SHIT HE PULLED OUT A KNIFE" bullshit at the end of chapter 1 and then 2 came out OH MY GOD HE.....USED THE KNIFE TO CUT AND EAT PIE!!!! I FOOOLED YOU XDDD"This is just more toby being a fucking hack
>>741927417Or that's some version of Susie that got weirdrouted. If you think about it, this dialog in chapter 1 doesn't really make sense, why would she talk about that?
We still going with "schizo" boss after Gerson and the Knight?
>>741930794the thing is it's toby's fault people thought they were schizos to being with by having two in a row and then leaving people to stew with them for 3 1/3 years, then having two new super bosses break that mold, which were received pretty well, only to make fun of people with the very last one for some reason after every already accepted we weren't going to get another spamtonit's very strange and out of place this far into the game, honestly some of the writing in ch5 seemed weirdly bitter towards players sometimes
>>741930686>>741930931I don't get it. Is compromising your final product to dunk on the crazy fans really worth it? i don't think it is
>>741930895>childhood Noelle is not who we think it was
>>741930686thismew mew (and the dojo fight in castletown) are exactly what Gerson talks aboutthe dialogue doesn't feel genuineit's irony poisoned unlike stuff from previous chaptersthe fight is also incredibly lame and uninterestingseriously fighting Flowery twice would have been much more interesting no one cares about the one-off troon ghost
>>741929839Why would you need an indicator for that? Seems weird, unless there is some reason to keep track of chapters that have shadowcrystals already saved in vs not.
>>741930564I'm gonna kill sans
>>741930897This kind of fucked me up and made me feel bad for Kris.I'm glad Susie was there to cheer them up before I sent them to Noelle to get drowned like a kitten
>>741930686He wasnt wrong though
>>741930392there is an interesting theory that says that kris and noelle fuse becoming the knight so then we play as the knightboth would be interesting
>>741930967Listen dude, us non-weird route schizobros need something to latch on to
>>741930974To be fair, Gerson did say he felt like he was losing his mind at one point.
>>741930967this is the same guy writing the weird route anon, with the rape scene and noelle doing a murder suicide with kris in the lakei can believe he'd sneak in unaware cannibalism with plausible deniability
>>741930967I'd normally agree with you but toby put sans in the booth on the famitsu cover
>>741930897>Nobody can drag you out of bedhah! allow me to prove you wrong yet again whoriel
>>741930594all of the schitzobosses are ultimately just different ways of dealing with the horrors being trapped in a prison of fake reality>jevil fully embraces the prison as his true world>spamton rejects the world but tries to create a new life, still in the fake world, that he imagines is better>knight is someone who has fully lost themselves and become a slave to the fake world, enforcing its madness>gerson sees that the world is fake and encourages others to oppose it, is happy to pass on from it after passing on some life lessons>pink chooses to move from freedom into the prison, deciding the prison is better, even if they completely lose their freedom. They're even willing to give up control of how they move and act towards other, preferring to have someone else control half their life over freedom
>>741930498>the data.win and japanese language files for each chapter got updated with the update.>the only language file not updated is the CH1 english one, but that file isnt present in later chapters so if chapter 1 has been worked on its been presumably built into the base game and the CH1 english language file is just a relic>its not just a result of updating because all the other files are older stillbut surely it would've been datamined by now, right?
>>741930093>no Rumblingffs
>>741929813I always side with Oersted he did nothing wrong the other faggots can cry all they want
>>741931107I couldn't drop kris with berdlyaaah chapter 5 dropped the ball in so many parts
>>741930897>>741931113There should have been a hidden interaction where if you don't force Kris out of bed it becomes nighttime, and then Noelle suddenly shows up in Kris' room and forces him to come with her to the lake
>>741930794It's not about the bosses being schizos for me, it's about the entire thing being a way to dive deeper into the game's backstory and it's mysteries.Jevil, Spamton, ERAM/Knight and Gerson, all took you to explore the reaches of the dark world, learn about things and events that you don't get to learn otherwise, and the reward of the shadow crystal/equipment to help you in your future battles.Mew Mew does none of that, has no build up, no information on the game's story or any other mystery, nothing of the sort, she doesn't even give you new equipment, the flowers do and you have to SPEND PINK COINS FOR THEM.God the more I think about it the more it angers me
>>741930980The Battat motif part felt really spiteful.Like, doing it once might have been a harmless poke, just laughing together.But twice? This is not him laughing with you, its him laughing at you.
So uhIs it to be taken from the song that Asgore is almost 12 feet tall
>>741931047>kris soul dess knight was wrong>it's actually kris soul noelle knight what the fuck are we doing here, toby?
>>741927417That's Dess, baby.
>>741931192I was expecting to spend most of the chapter's WR with noelle, we just got an end scene instead...
>>74193123912 feet tall 20 inches long
>>741931202>Mew Mew does none of that, has no build upmew mew specifically being a schizo boss has build up starting from chapter 3
>>741931203Do you have any idea how big of a fucking loser you sound like pretending you got your feelings hurt by a joke in a video game
>>741931202Most importantly in my opinion: She isn't nearly as cool as the other 4. It's that simple really, she's lame compared to the KINO the other 4 were.
>>741931242subverting 11 year long expectations (laugh)
>>741930780>>741930786>>741930906I think it's about balance. Some artists can't help themselves to keep Noelle cute-looking, but others make her crazy faces too goofy-looking and they end up being expressions you'd see Pizzapants doing
>>741931192>and then Noelle suddenly shows up in Kris' room and forces him to come with her
>>741931305>she looks like she drowns human men>agreed
>>741931239He's a big guy
>>741931203It's not a joke anon, it IS the battat motif. battât means batter. Friend uses the knight's laugh snd file. It's the knight motif.
>>741931203Why is Toby implying it is insane to equate that melody to the secret bosses when it was used exclusively for them for 7 fucking years?
>>741931268Not in any way that's actually memorable, interesting on rewarding.Finding Jevil's prison, Spamton's shop, booting up MANTLE for the first time, Gerson's reveal of being the hammer of justice, all incredibly memorable sequences, not to mention the depth to each one.Mew Mew really has nothing like that going for it
>>741928409His dialog is literally Noelle's, maybe that's why spamton has the thorn ring?
>>741931272>says the guy posting the nigger goat on a vietnamese ping pong forum
>>741931154I know the lake is knee-high, but it is much funnier to imagine December coming up in a dredging bucket
>>741931184>The town is a fuckin GardenThis shit really is Black Souls electric boogaloo huh, just without th, sorry, LESS rape.
>>741929935THANK YOU!
>>741931460 (Me)>knee-highHoly fuck I'm ESL
>>741931469A garden filled with ROOTSokay... time to find alice... or has she found us instead?
>>741928409That explains the silicon chip background on the spamton door hanger and friend's eyes being floppies.
>>741931576The glitching effect makes it look like Spamton has a bulge
>>741927471>screenSo photoshop flowey "My world" theory is very alive?
>>741931410>Not in any way that's actually memorable, interesting on rewarding.ah, but consider. that is part of mewmew's relation to freedom.hers is fully accepting that she's not truly free, that she needs to concede some of it to be happy.she's accepted being a cog in the machine.she's not something that stands out, she's not something thats memorable, she's not something thats interesting or rewarding.she is simply, a cog.of course, this is probably a case where toby just put five seconds of thought into it and we're overthinking it all again.
SHE'S IN
>>741931410It's interesting in how the resolution in the mew mew fight juxtaposes with the different outcomes with cages. >get all recruits>the cages make out(most likely related to mew mew)>get no recruits>the colored one kicks the shit out of the other oneIt's like one of the more clear indicators of what is the purpose behind recruits, and it's surprising because of it's purely to do with how Kris will treat you. You don't really get the impression that Kris would care whenever or not you do that.
you guys got your S.POTIONs right
>tfw I correctly guessed who the secret boss was going to be halfway through the chapter
>>741931239Flowery is 10 feet tall and 20 years oldInterpretation A:>Rudy is 20 years old>He fucked Carol when he was at most 8Interpretation B:>The flower itself is 20 years old>Kris is a roughly 30 year old manchildI will not be taking further interpretations. Chapter 6 will reveal which of these is correct.
>>741931694It was the only secret boss i found on my own and of course it was the lamest one
>>741931662My lazy ass only got one S. POISON. Doesn't really matter, I'm sure chapter 6 will shower you with better healing items like every other chapter
>>741929419Ch5 kinda implies Noelle did the ferris wheel cutscene in ch2 anyway, at least in Susie's perspective
>>741931694Yeah I had a feeling with the figurine suddenly showing up on the truck but the ectoplasm on the pink key just sealed the deal.
>>741931694looking back, it's extremely obvious if you check the figgie on asgore's truck and the ghost house, where dummy is fucking seething that everyone can see it
>>741927471Cock and fucking balls, this scene from the 3+4 reveal refrrenced this
Hey i just got a drawing tablet and scribbled this in fifteen minutes. How is it guys?
>>741931410>Mew Mew really has nothing like that going for itThe worst part is that the shop was good, really good. The atmosphere there was fantastic.
anyone else was singing FLOWER MAN FLOWER MAN?no?just me?i thought that fight was cool as fuck
>>741931865Damn good. Keep it up.
>>741929531onionsan is the reason why i hate waterfall and don't do pacifist, i'm glad i ate that faggot
>>741931934I tried coloring but im not necessarily happy with it, I never was a colore I guess
>>741931904The shop was fucking awesome and then the fight is nothing like that. Which i guess having a shop is another thing she ripped off from Spamton
>>741931904>The atmosphere there was fantastic.this
>>741927394Are you ok reatard?It's wood.Stoopid
>>741931971But anon... you are what you eat.
>>741931932every man with a soul wasI was screaming FLOWER MAN from the top fo my lungs
>>741931978I recommend leaving coloring for last.Coloring can make or break a drawing.
>>741927394Hell yeah
>>741928016the only people who don't like him are the people that don't give a shit about anything beyond more meta narrative shit with tenna/spamton clones
>>741931978I'm with the other one in leaving it for last. Details will help you color and shade, anyways.
>>741932032I thought he was going to be Flowey but lame, and he ended up being the coolest character in the chapter
>>741931202>ew Mew does none of that, has no build up, no information on the game's story or any other mysteryWell didn't you notice chapter 5 dark world is a sham? Its a rehash of chapter 1. Mewmew's fight is supposed to seem like a parody of the schizo bosses, with even Susie and Ralsei lampshading it.
How many Touhou references are there? I counted 3, Reimu, Ran, and LUNATIC.
>>741931932FLOWER MANFLOWER MANWITH HIS HEARTIN THE SAND
>>741932235the colored niggas theme basically is
>>741932235What was Ran aside from the general "Fluffy $$$$-ing tail" business?Also Petal Dance straight up uses Zunpets.
