It's well known among us gamers that the late 2000's~mid 2010's was ASS for gaming. Brown and piss aesthetic, overpriced DLC's, birth of microtransactions, QTEs and cutscenes, etc. So how do we explain the fact that NORMALFAGs are nostalgic about the era and believe it's the golden age of gaming?
>>741933837Bump
>>741933837They're nostalgic. There's no logic in it. They played those games years ago and their life sucks now so now the era they peaked in just so happens to be the best one, and everyone else missed out, so that makes them feel superior. Gen alpha will do the same thing when they grow older. And the generation after that, and so on.
>>741937063>Tung Tung Shahur simulator? Now THAT was real gaming, kids with their CoD MW 16 VR will NEVER know how good it was to play Fortnite
It was before games were full of butch female protags and faggotry
>>741937168Yes, the future is indeed bleak.
>>741933837Partly that anybody is nostalgiac about the shit they grew up with and also the fact that, while things werre bad at the time, they have gotten so SO much worse.People joked about the ps3 having "no games" but didn't expect something like the ps4 or ps5 which genuinely have "no games". The ps4 was basically just a bloodborne machine. And the xbox. Whatever happened there...I liked that period of gaming but calling it the "golden age" is a lie. I would be remiss to miss that 2008 was the police siren that ended the party. Just look at your selection in pic related. Me2, dialogueslop rpg that kicked off a trend that fucked over Fo4's design. Gta5, the worst gta until Gta6. Bioshock1, a linear fps that gaslight a generation into thinking it was an immersive sim.
idk man saints row 1 and 2 were good 7th gen games>>741939475>sopranos posterstay
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>>741939548The 7th gen had a lot of good games, don't get me wrong, but it was a decline. Things didn't go bad overnight. It just went from great to good to okay to bad to worse. Comparing 2008 gaming to 2015 gaming is like comparing Season 1 Tony to Season 6 Tony.
>>741939743Shit forgot pic.>>741939685>haloreachfinalmission.jpg
Id argue the 7th generation had the most good video games. Like if you dont count backwards compatibility stuff and remakes and remasters and just "games released" 7th generation is insane. There's literally 200 games at least "worth playing".
>>741939685saved>>741939743>Things didn't go bad overnight. It just went from great to good to okay to bad to worse.I agree, and I know it can't just be chalked up to one thing. But I think the industry no longer feels motivation to innovate because now you don't need to to make money
>>741939813>Literal cover shooterShan't
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>>741939685>>741939785You know who else had an arc? The forerunners
>>741933837>>741937063It was kino. Only trannies hate it
>>741939872Vanquish is based, you’re a fag you wouldn’t understand
>>741939868>industry no longer feels motivation to innovateThat and innovation itself being risky. Watching game award shows and seeing the trailers for new games really impresses on you just how formulaic the industry is. I think the industry got too big for its own good. Whether a game made money or not became too important so studios, by their own or others volition, stayed with what was reliable instead of taking risks as one saw with the ps2 and xbox360.>>741940014>pic relatedAy Tone... you never gonna believe this...
>>741939548>>741940046>Saints row 1God man I wanna play that again so badly. But it seems like it's a bitch to run on PC since you gotta use an Xbox emulator.
>>741940006>launch day mcc... that's our hell... it's an xbox live lobby where it's launch day every day forever.
7th gen is peak kino, I just played through Alpha Protocol, that era was just full of linear 3rd person shooters and everyone started to stuff RPG elements into everything, I miss that era, not every game had to be a 200 hour long open world walking sim.
>>741933837its got nothing to do with "normalfags". its just that gen z are in their mid-late 20s and they grew up with these games therefore they are naturally quite nostalgic towards them. its not really hard to understand unless you are retarded and obsessed with fake jewish generation war bullshit.t. 1997 zillennial god
>>741939813Trvth>>741939872Explain what's wrong with it in your own words
>>741940167>I think the industry got too big for its own good.That it did. But there's no such thing as too big to fail. I genuinely think the industry needs to collapse in order to start over again. It's not like I want it to fail, I'd much rather enjoy games again. I just think a collapse needs to happen in order for us to get good games again. A clean slate
>>741939548why do you foids always hate that us men enjoy sopranos? can you just fuck off back to tiktok, please?
>>741933837Because often they still made games that were fun and memorable, with iconic characters and moments.
>>741940449what? I love the sopranos and I'm a man's man, a come from behind kinda guy
>>741940167i feel like innovation would be so much easier to allow if games werent obsessed with being ultra expensive just because of meme graphicsfaggotry. you can make mid-2000s tier assets look great in modern engines if they just gave a shit. no need to have 8k hyper realistic textures with flac. audio littered all over the game with insane lighting that rapes your framerate simply because producers demand that your game must impress graphically
>>741940427True. I also think games need be made with small teams again. I heard somewhere that the ideal team size for a game is like 100 people. I can believe that. Honestly, that studios got as big as they did was a freak mistake. You'd think with better tech that studios could do more with less and not less with more. But oh well.
>>741933837>among us
>>741940542This anon's a pitcher, not a catcher. No unions greased.
>>741933837It was the peak of western game dev. Your OP pic says it all really, never before were western games that popular and never again will they be. Every other period, Asian games were in the leadSo if you're not a weeb, that's basically your favorite time period in gaming
>>741940604There was a brief time where the industry had it figured out. While two heads are better one, two many cooks in the kitchen is just as bad as flying solo. If not worse. My favorite games were made during an era where the common number of people working on a game was around 100 guys
>>741933837>It's well known among us gamers that the late 2000's~mid 2010's was ASS for gaming. Brown and piss aesthetic, overpriced DLC's, birth of microtransactions, QTEs and cutscenes, etcExcept all of this got worse since then. If you think Bioshock and Mass Effect had bad aesthetics then I don't see how the art direction in modern western games is going to make you happy
>>741940635I feel like even the eastern games to come out lately have been lacking
>>741940575Yeah definitely. There's also something to be said about mid 2000's city graphics look more authentic than the ones we have today. Something about the low poly count and reliance on good texturing that better conveys the feel of urban shape.Reading your post also reminded me of Halo. That's a series that raped it's own asshole with how it handled it's graphics. All they had to do was somehow harmonize Halo 3's lighting engine with Halo Reach's fidelity and they would've had an amazing looking engine. But, frankly, Halo's history since Bungie left might as well be a case of mass loosh farming as far as I'm concerned.
>>741940367nta but vanquish is overhyped because it looks way cooler than what it actually is. It looks like an acrobatic high speed shooter. It actually is a cover shooter with slomo mechanics, and acrobatics are just used to get between covers and activate the slomo. By themselves the acrobatics don't do shit. Uncharted 4 does a better job implementing acrobatics into the TPS gameplay unironically, even though it doesn't look like it
>>741940449I don't know what your problem is but as far as I could hear she, pardon "she", was telling me stay. lol.
>>741940542>>741941081i apologize, i somehow misread the "stay" response as like: "stay from where you came". idk why lol.
>>741940923>Something about the low poly count and reliance on good texturing that better conveys the feel of urban shape.Texture quality has gone done the drain in general. With modern pipelines half of the texture "artists" aren't even artists at all, they just dump layers of materials on top of each other in substance painter and use auto-mask. And I'm not hating on them by saying they're not artists, I mean they literally hire random code monkeys for that job because you only need to know how to click buttons and follow instructions to do it.Except the resulting texture is shit because it still needs an artists touch to actually look good, but the suits don't care, most gaymers are too retarded to notice anyway. Halo Infinite has some of the most poorly made environmental textures I've seen in my life and I've never heard a single person call it out. The resolution is good so the average gaymer thinks it looks good. Except it's missing some mysterious "soul" that's he's too retarded to point out
because it was all specifically tuned to the tastes of normalfags, as opposed to nerds?
>>741941289That's true. I was also thinking of the forerunnerslop that was in Halo 4 and Halo 5. I don't know who in the pipeline thought that "esoteric ancient huma- I mean forerunner" should equate to CYBERTRON lmao
Jesus Christ, get some taste.
>>741941243with how passive aggressive anons have become on this site and board, I get it. you get a pass for that
>>741941491yeah i think thats it. again, sorry about that. cheers, anon :)
>>741933837Modern Warfare 2 did irreperable damage to the industry. >>741940046All of these are early 7th gen. Late 7th gen was dogshit
>>741940491Most late 7th gen characters were faceless fps goons>>741940635This, japanese games were in the shitter at this period and eurojank was still niche
>>741933837The 7th gen had some great games and some shit ones. The shit ones were mostly forgotten and people will still talk about the good ones. The same will happen with this gen in future.
>>741941443>lived long enough to see /v/ defend the modern military dudebro era Trannies suck but lets not act like this was good
>it's not MY nostalgia so it doesn't count!!
>>741941790The thing about 7th gen is that the start of 7th gen was god tier. Arguably as good as previous generations, but the moment you hit the early 2010s things go sideways
>>741941867Post 2010 still produced some all time classics like Dishonored, Skyrim, Minecraft and Deus Ex HR. There were also smaller cult hits like Papers Please and Spec Ops The Line.7th gen was definitely an overall downgrade from the 6th gen, but that’s not because there were no good games. It was because the sheer volume of bad CoD wannabes and bad industry practices lead to good games becoming an increasing rarity.
>>741933837give me your best late 2000s LUDO
>>741942162>Skyrim, Minecraftcrap>Dishonoredspiritually a 90s - early 2000s game.>Deus Ex HRcrappy sequel to a novel, innovative classic missing all the spark of the original
I seriously don't understand where the hatred for the seventh generation comes from. Every single video game generation was 90% dogshit shovelware made by overworked sweatshop jeets and chinks with only 10% good games. I can't think of a single "golden era" where video games were ever more than this. QTEs and the brown filters also existed in the previous gen as well. QTE were literally birthed during the Ps2 Era with shit like Shenmue. You guys seriously need to grow the fuck up and realize this.
>>741941595Don't worry anon. Cheers!Pic related is the only monkey meme I have on me atm so enjoy.
>>741941867>the moment you hit the early 2010sMass Effect 2, RDR, Fallout: New Vegas, Mafia II, Vanquish, Dark Souls, Skyrim, Arkham City, L.A. Noire, Portal 2, Uncharted 3, Deus Ex HR. That's just 2010 and 2011 btw. Truly a nightmarish time compared to years like 2025 when we had ummm Silent Hill f and ummm Doom The Dark Ages?
>>741942286The 7th gen was the first gen where investors realised just how profitable games could be thanks to Modern Warfare’s unprecedented success, so devs and publishers tried to follow that gravy train by pandering to normies and making games more cinematic. Entire genres like JRPGs and Stealth games were put on life support because they weren’t CoD. Every bad practice in the industry today can be traced back to the 7th gen, and we’re only just starting to recover.
>>741942596>Entire genres like JRPGs and Stealth games were put on life support because they weren’t CoDJRPG was on life support because Japs couldn't crack HD development for the longest time.
>>741942752That was part of it, but it was also because Japanese studios wanted to pursue western trends because the west dominated the industry at that point.It wasn’t until the 8th and 9th gens that both eastern and western devs came to the realisation that maybe they’d be better off going back to their roots, even if their design is still tainted by casualisation somewhat.
>>741942596Are you fucking kidding me? Games were already massively profitable far before the 7th gen. Remember the entire Pokemania craze? Super Mario Bros? Wtf are you talking about? GTA V I would argue has had a massively more detrimental impact in that regard than Modern Warfare. >Persona 4, Xenoblade Chronicles, Ni no Kuni, Final Fantasy XIII + sequels, Tales series, Dragon Quest IX.>MGS4, Splinter Cell Conviction, Hitman Blood Money/Absolution, Deus Ex HR, Dishonored, Assassin's Creed stealth sections.Neither of these genres were anywhere close to dead.
>>741933837They do not know how good we had it before 2007.
>>741941658>All of these are early 7th gen. Late 7th gen was dogshit2008-2012 is when 7th gen peaked. 2013 was weaker but still had some gems like MGRR
>>741943127They were profitable, but not as profitable as Hollywood. MW2 made more money than any Hollywood blockbuster released that year, which is what caught the attention of investors. Combine that with the Wii being marketed as a “family” console for everyone, and you had a massive influx of casuals into the medium who’d never played a game in their lives. Thus, the demand publishers gave devs was to make their games accessible to people who’d only really played CoD, Madden and Wii Sports.
>>741943435How profitable were games in the 90's?
>>741943435You're moving the goalposts anon. GTA San Andreas sold 25 million copies. NFS Most Wanted sold 16 million copies. The PS2 sold over 100 million units. Gaming was mainstream since the PS1 era>Thus, the demand publishers gave devs was to make their games accessibleThe biggest increase in accessibility and decrease of difficulty in gaming was going from the SNES to the PS1 gen
>>741943532Let’s put it this way: In the 90’s, selling 1-2 million copies was considered a massive financial success, but during the 7th gen, these sales were deemed to be too low by publishers and they shuttered entire studios over it.
>>741943696>Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas >Halo 2 >World of Warcraft>Final Fantasy 7Come on dude.
>>741943657Gaming was for children until the HD era. Adults didn't own PS1 or PS2, that was for kids. Maybe adults played Civ or HoMM but they didn't play DMC3.
>>741942286Most of it was before digital distribution and peak Amazon. I know late millennials worship disc games, but if you were an adult playing videogames back then you got to watch all your favor genres die because they didn't move enough copies to normalfags and kids for Walmart to keep them on shelves. With digital distribution at least you get indie games and a small amount of AA that could hang in there.
>>741940604>I heard somewhere that the ideal team size for a game is like 100 people.That's a small FQA team working on an AAA game.
>>741944472Moving the goalposts again anon. Gaming was undeniable mainstream since at least the PS2 if not earlier
Gaming peaked in 2009/2010. There was a weekly release of banger after banger for 12 months. That old boomer Crowbcat timelines ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5u8jyPIrIYGames that came out within weeks of each other in this period are still played, talked about and loved to this day. The same cannot be said about any other era.
>>741944705>6 consecutive slops in a rowImpressive
>>741940965>Uncharted 4 does a better job implementing acrobatics into the TPS gameplay unironically, even though it doesn't look like it
7th gen was before everything went to shit. The signs it was going to shit were there but it didn't happen yet.
>>741944472>Adults didn't own the PS2>Adults weren't playing the GTA games Zoom Zoom
>>741945094cope on zoomoid
>>741944472>People not born during this time trying to cite history
>>741945467>defending zoomshit slop >no YOU'RE the zoomer
>Having Slopstalgia and Zoomer Derangement Syndrome at the same timeGeg
>>741945591Now you're going to have to explain how a game from 2010 like Fallout New Vegas "zoomshit slop" in the same mould as actual zoomshit slop like Fall Guys and streamshit zoomslop of that variety
>>741945669>Cowadooty Blacked Ops>Not slop
>>741945701Grow up zaydon
The average AAA and AA games were of the highest quality during the PS3/360 era than they were at any point before or afterwards. I'm not a zoomer. My first console was the NES and most of my favourite games are from the PS1/N64 era and PS2/Gamecube era but the average random AAA and AA games were generally of their best quality during the PS3/360 gen.
>>741933837only the early years of 7th gen were hated and 6th gen was an incredibly hard act to follow because it produced all of the greatest 3D games ever made. once MW2 came out you were a weirdo if you didn't have a PS360.
>>741946678/v/ was making fun of shaved head military man brown and bloom for a long time. Even mocking people in the future being nostalgic for this shit. I wish my external drive survived because the old UI shiitpost threads have gotten very accurate when we made fun of 7th gen then.
>>741944705only new vegas and black ops here are good. fable 3 is absolute dogshite
>>741946896you got rid of shooting games and now you have mobile slop, good job.
>>741947263>implying /v/ has that kind of power>implying we invented the smartphoneGo piss on Steve Jobs' grave.
>>74194470598' mogs
i cant even tell 7th 8th and 9th gens apart
>>741933837It was the peak time for Consolefag normies though, they loved brown shooters with heavy autoaim and watered down action RPGsSpecifically I think XBOX fags loved this 360 era.
>>7419474017th is brown, 8th is reflective and makes your eyes bleed
>>741947401The industry made Far Cry 3, Assassins Creed 2, Last of Us, then went "Lets just do that again, forever"
>>741940635Western game dev was trapped in PC hell for decades prior due to Japs winning the Console wars after the 80’s crash.XBOX was the big break for western console devs, but these have all slowly died off due to internal rot and the slow death of XBOX, even if Playstation is basically a USA company now.
7th gen killed off Arena Shooters and RTS so they'll never be forgiven
>>741948924That was the fault of Counter Strike and PC gamers. Not sure what it has to do with consoles or the 7th gen in particular
>>741949514how is it the fault of pc games when pc games invented and perfected arena shooters with quake? it was gaylo that ruined arena shooters. counter strike could exist alongside quake if it wasnt for you consolefags
>>741951105Arena shooters died because PC gamers started playing other games like Counter Strike, which has been the most popular multiplayer shooter on PC for the last two decades. How the fuck is it the fault of consoles that people stopped playing a genre that only exists on PC? Same deal with RTS
Bump
>>741940635>Every other period, Asian games were in the leadThat's only true for people who were or are completely trapped in the Nintendo bubble.
>>741954883I don't think he's wrong tho Japan was completely dominant in the 80s and even the 90's which i think is the golden age of american video games was also a very good period for japanese consoles
>>741940367All cover shooters are 1.5 analog stick shooters and .5 of that is just LARPing.You're in cover and you don't move or take any evasive action other than unhunching your spine until you get a "le grenade" prompt, or you're out of cover and you don't shoot until you get into cover because everything is hitscan and just standing around to slowly aim is non-viable on anything other than baby difficulties.Vanquish spices it up by letting you slo-mo... where you don't move until your meter runs out, or you can powerslide... where you don't shoot until you get to cover or slo-mo.It is head and shoulders above most 3rd person cover shooters, but that's still a very low bar.
