>DEL-TA-RUUUUUUUUNEEnjoying Chapter 5? Any hopes for Chapter 6? Is it over?
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5?No>Any hopes for Chapter 6?No>Is it over?YesHaven't played it by the way, total wokeshit death.
>>741957430It was a lot of fun. A bit disappointing snowgrave had no dark world but I respect the vision, whatever the fuck it is.Back to the waiting room now, avoiding the totally-not-a-general like the plague because they're all insane.
>>741957534What? You dont like yuri and ntr?
>>741957430Im not trans, no.
haha more like deltatr
ponytail susie looks so cute, I was kinda disappointed when it was revealed to just be a bit
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5?no thanks stopped playing as soon as Kris started getting cucked.>Any hopes for Chapter 6?Absolutely not lmfao.>Is it over?Absolutely lmfao.
>>741960118>no thanks stopped playing as soon as Kris started getting cucked.in 2021?
just started...damn, what a CUNT
>>741957430>is it over?Dude it was over in chapter 3. Chapter 2 was when the writing took a huge nosedive.
>>741957430ntr game, im not playing any more
I havent played ch5 yet, its worse than 4?Did tobias intensify the suselle ntr more or something?
>>741957430>literal furry NTR troon gameBack to /trash/ where you freaks belong
>>741957430it's never been so over...
>Asgore says he will unleash all his anger and hatred on the knight>Immediately gets fucking bubbled the second it does turn up and no does literally nothing. >the most physical thing he does is shoulder check his own son into the fucking exit and slam the door in his faceWhat a cock.
Haven't played chapter 5 yet. Probably won't for a while but I do plan to. A lot of people are saying Kris gets cucked but I don't really understand cos I never really saw Kris as being interested in Noelle in the first place?
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5Had fun with it outside of Suselle shit which annoyed me>Hopes for Chapter 6Prophecy plot manipulation ends up being true to explain how out of character Susie was acting and Suselle goes up in flames>Is it overFor now
>>741963880The anger and hatred got smothered by his concern for Kris. On NG+ we will have to fan the flames instead so he just breaks Knight's face
>>741964045Dont you stare at me like that you little faggot. This is all your fault.
>>741957430I enjoyed it. Found most of the secrets on my own too, except I spoiled the general location of the egg for myself. I wish I hadn't, because I almost stumbled on it myself anyway. Wasn't too hidden this chapter. I was already trying to cut all the wheat first time through the area, and noticed the one that stays. I tried hitting it a couple more times then moved on instead of keeping at it. The spoiler told me it was by the shop, so I immediately knew to go back and try that more. So I didn't totally spoil myself at least.Apparently my main save is missing some eggs. I have no idea which chapters I didn't grab them in, and don't really feel like replaying the entire game to get them. Hopefully one egg is enough for whatever. Lancer said "You won't get through your teen years without at least one Egg," so maybe.
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5?I already did everything there was to do in the chapter. I did enjoy it, but I still have this running criticism of this game being thematically unfocused. There are some themes. For example, there's this whole "freedom" theme. Things being set as they are on a track and the different characters being unable to stop it despite trying vigorously. But it isn't at all clear what the message regarding it is supposed to be. There's also this separation between the protagonist and the player, but it's also not clear what the point of it is neither. Then there's this whole weird route thing, and it's also not clear at all why the player would be engaging with it on the basis of information that has been revealed so far. For the time being, a lot of what happens in Deltarune just seems to be faffing about doing things that aren't connected to what seem to be the main themes. It's not a criticism of chapter 5 specifically, it's a criticism of all the chapters released so far.>Any hopes for Chapter 6?I hope for something to bring it all together. So that I can see a consistent throughline of the game, where I can see everything that happens from the diagetic elements to the meta elements as serving something overarching. You know, how it was in Undertale. But it's possible that it's not realistic to expect that for chapter 6. It might be more realistic to hope for that to happen in the finale in chapter 7. Still, I hope that I catch a glimpse of it in chapter 6. If not, then that's okay, because there's still chapter 7, but I would be happy, if I do.>Is it over?Nope. Not yet. But it sucks, that it will be so long before the whole game is done.
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5?The beginning was shit and ruined all the buildup to the festival.The dark world and the flowers were great though, as was the platforming gimmick, too bad it's just going to be confined to one chapter.>Any hopes for Chapter 6?Total and complete Noelle death. Which we won't be getting. A more realistic hope is that shit finally hits the fan and Rudy dies and that introducing Noelle to the dark world is actually a terrible idea.>Is it over?Not yet, but Toby can always fuck it up next time
>>741964387I liked it too. I get why people are upset about the story not proceeding. I guess the 'cuck' aspect didn't phase me because I was pushing for no one to date anyways. I don't care the date stuff is there, but I was never invested and didn't care who ended up with who anyways. Besides, Kris is a bit of a psycho, why should he end up with anyone? I say on 4chan of all places.
>>741964491>Then there's this whole weird route thing, and it's also not clear at all why the player would be engaging with it on the basis of information that has been revealed so far.That feels like something that will make more sense the more chapters come out. Like there's the whole thing about following the set path of the prophecy or whatever, and that leading to bad things. Just hearing about that is enough to consider finding another path where you break free from fate. "The Forbidden Path" is described in the sword/ice key stuff in chapter 3, so that's your lead for seeking out the chapter 2 weird route. Maybe when we get 6/7 (lololol) we'll see that the set path where the prophecy comes true is so terrible that the player will be willing to try anything to change paths.
Why do you all give a shit about Kris being "cucked?" Did you forget what that little psycho has done to (You)? You know you're not them right?
>>741964756Yeah I think the story progressed well enough. A lot doesn't feel new because it's just revealing the things were hinted at or theorized about for a long time now. But you have to spell those things out in-game at some point in the story. I think the intention too, is that it's like the last "normal chapter" where you go to a Dark World, meet goofy friendly characters, go to a castle, seal the fountain, etc. Along with it being the final chapter with an egg and shadow crystal. So they also had the nostalgic part with the starting area resembling the first Dark World to tie into that. Whatever happens in chapters 6 and 7, it's going to be more dark and serious. More like the titan fight at the end of chapter 4, I imagine.
No one will shed a tear for him
Where the fuck is ramb?
>>741965261>So they also had the nostalgic part with the starting area resembling the first Dark World to tie into that.Probably because Kris to remind Susie of the "Kris and Susie thing" instead of being a third wheel.It didn't work.
I don't care about getting with Susie or Noelle. There's only one girl for me.
>>741965850This pink bitch is kicking my ass right now and I'm fucking sick of her.
>>741965261Good write up. Wasn't my favorite chapter, but I still had fun. Bosses were neat too.Unpopular opinion I guess, but chapter 3 was my favorite. Surprised to see so many people rank it low. Bosses and exploration were top notch, half the chapter felt like you were discovering 'forbidden' secret stuff. Music rocked. Also Roaring Knight was a super challenging and fun boss, beating it made me feel accomplished.
>>741965261The whole motif with the chapter is that the sun is setting at every possible opportunity and anons think this wasn't supposed to be the last glimpse of light before everything gets dark
>>741965850This pink bitch is kissing my ass right now and I'm fucking her.
>>741965261>I think the intention too, is that it's like the last "normal chapter" where you go to a Dark WorldChapters 3 and 4 were widely praised for subverting the expectations of the patterns created by 1 and 2, yet 5 feels like the most templat patternfag prediction from the post-chapter 2 hiatus.Not to mention that every chapter since 2 had at least a little bit of darkness, or a seedy weirdness underneath: Spamton, Sword Route, the darker parts of the Church.Chapter 5 feels too fillery, and even if it was (bad) on purpose because nostalgia, it fails to be nostalgic because it does NOT capture the weird feeling of Deltarune AT ALL
>>741966453Yup. Even the stuff with the flowers being doomed no matter what. Even if they saved their dark world, they would wither and die. The happy times are doomed to end regardless of what you do. Unless it's possible to break that path.
>You pay Aqua $20 and she eats with you would you pay it?
>>741957430I enjoyed the weird route kino.
>>741957534>plays woke franchise>complains about woke
>>741957534typical /v/
>>741957534>>741967196It's dark woke, acktually.
>>741957430Smelly tranny game, fucking embarrassing lmao
I like the flowers
Not gonna lie, I'm not viking with Chapter 5. The Festival felt bland, the Dark world so far feels like it's going through the motions, Ralsei continues to elude to knowing more without talking to us. Just finished the Aqua boss fight and feel like I need a nap.
>>741966796I can understand that criticism. It seemed intentional to be aggressively following the template, but even when it's intentional some people might not like that. It gives it that fillery feeling you mention. The relative lack of darkness/weirdness fits the theme and probably will be a nice contrast with the last two chapters, but I did miss it too a bit. It's such a defining part of the game, so I was looking forward to seeing what creepy secret was hidden going off-path in this chapter. Nothing really, even the secret boss is more just a silly fight, even if the thing about sharing a body ties into Kris and (You).Overall I liked it a ton, but I get why some people weren't feeling it.
>>741963885He was third-wheeling super hard in the festival. I'd sudoku if I was in his shoes
So which ending would be the one where we or kris get with noelle and live happily ever after? Maybe the one where you abort the weird route in chapter 4, and kris promises to protect noelle, while she says that the old kris has returned?I wonder if aborting the weird route in chapter 4 is different from the normal route and the one where you abort during chapter 5
Can't you gay retarded faggots stay on your containment board? >>>/lgbt/
Will be pathetic if the plot relies on some gender/race bullshit. Like ummm no Susie is akshually the prince cause girls can be guys and Kris is a girl and Noelle is a human cause it doesn't matter if you arent monster or human we're just one race the deltarune race ;)~Like you can do it one time swapping Noelle and Susie in the prophecy... But Toby you ain't ryukishi07. This isn't umineko. There wasn't some moral social justice undertone in umineko.Hopefully it doesn't go this way. It's only impactful when none of your cast is LGBT anything like in umineko.
>>741967054>$20that's a cheap fuck, why not
>>741967406>The Festival felt blandThis is one area where I was disappointed a little. For a game with so many minigames, I thought for sure we'd be getting something more like the Millennial Fair in Chrono Trigger with stuff to do. Not having a new street or anything for it I could accept, but after building it up for so long I expected something more than we got.Maybe it was more of the fandom building the festival itself up more than the game, but still.
Sethbros... i have a feeling that our purple flower wont get as much fanart, because toby fox decided to make her a they/themIt makes no sense! She looks like a cute girl, she is a girl! Damn you, tobias the fox.....
>>741967406The Aqua fight is when the chapter starts getting good.
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5?Mostly no.>Any hopes for Chapter 6?That the writing is going to improve and that Chapter 5 will get mostly retconned>Is it over?gerson.jpg
>>741967670Like when you're making Susie's outfit and it has a "Gun's" stat, I thought there'd actually be a shooting booth or something. They could've thrown in a couple things to play around with more.
>>741967670RIGHT!? Where were the mini gane collections, the tickets you win to get items at a prize counter. The prize you can only get if you Max Rank all the minigames, it was right there!
>>741967406It gets better right after, but then it gets worse and reaffirms exactly what you're feeling now
i've only finished undertale halfway. i am installing deltarune right now. i have no clue what the deltrarune story is about minus a few spoilers. but i know i am my own character, and i am about to *fuck* these kids up.
I absolutely loathe nu-males that can only either write:>le heccin yuri couple that is not forced at all>literal zesty steven universe fag
>>741967885Remember to do the weird route to inflict maximum pain upon kris and his friends
>Hey Toby! Long time no see!>I heard you finished your game! Some NEETs were saying they hated it.>Oh, it's not out? There's two chapters left?>Hey, people were mad at me when my game took forever to release, but when I finished it, they loved it!>Of course, I released the whole thing at once, but it still took me what, eight years?>Guess it's because I never made a game before...>But that's not a problem for you right?>You've done this before, you must have years before you beat my record->...What was that?>Oh.>...>...Hey, I know what will cheer you up!>I was on my way to the playground. You pick out a kid you like, and I'll fuck him in front of you!
I fucking hate this trend of forever build up and then rushing the ending. This is Chapter 5/7, why the fuck are we still in this question filled fog. Boots should be dropping, secrets revealing, and villainous machinations bring revealed!
>>741967924Thank god he can write more than just that
>>741968130Yeah that's the big risk now. The big secrets need to be revealed at some point. The build-up and hinting has been awesome, but hopefully it becomes something concrete before the last 30 minutes of Chapter 7.
>>741967538Kris averted the prophecy by changing xer gender to "they/them".
For me itsSeth=aqua>flowery>orange=green>yellow>>>>>>>>>>>blue
>>741968558Mine isPink > Seth > Aqua > Orange > Flowery > Yellow > Green > Blue
>>741968130Chapter 6 and 7 is at least 20 hours of game left. That's more than enough time to reveal stuff
>>741967054food is included and made by my nigga Green so why the fuck no
>>741965245Either self insertion or suicidal empathy.
>>741957430I don't even play Deltarune.I'm just here for the smut.
Susie will become a night because of her escapism into the dark worldDess is the knight because of that
Holidays are full of surprises>Dess (or whatever part of her is left) is either trapped in the code or became the knight, probably after trying to cross the lake>Carol is aware the soul exists and can modify her text color to communicate with it>Noelle only needs a slight nudge from (you) to start bending realityThat just leaves Rudy. What's his surprise?
>>741968130realat the very least fucking tell us what Asgore was looking for god damn it
>>741968558>>741968635blue was very gay but i appreciated the high EQ writing it was like an old woodstock hippy doing solomons paradox
Enjoying Chapter 5? I wish I was, with chapters 3 and 4 I was devouring those for a full weekend non stop. This chapter feels like a slog, the festival was meh, and immediately seeing Field of Hopes and Dreams again instead of a new area took ALL the wind out of my sails that I haven't booted it up since Flowery showed us the "Exit"Any hopes for Chapter 6? New Things happen within 10 minutes of the chapter starting instead of all these false starts. Is it over?No, but it is fumbling
>>741957430I enjoyed it, especially because there wasn't even a crumb of lore for the gasterfags. only 2 chapters left, tick-tock fuckers.
I like the foxes and their tricks.
>>741968121at least Deltarune is actually good though, unlike homori
>>741968957he likes to watch Asgore plow Carol
>>741964563>too bad it's just going to be confined to one chapter.Listen man Ralsei showed that what we thought were hard rules can easily ignored (you can just walk over the spike strips) we don't need no stinking feather. The climbing came back. Were definitely gonna see more jumping and hacking and slashing moving forward.
>Kris was the first one to reach out to Susie when everyone else was scared of her.>Kris was the one who recruited every single monster while Susie was busy beating the shit out of them.>Kris was the one who taught Susie to ACT instead of ATTACK.>Kris was the one who stood up for Susie against the King in Chapter 1.>Kris was the one who broke Susie out of prison.>Kris is the one sealing the Dark Fountains that threaten the town.>Kris was the one who took Susie in when she was basically living on the streets like a bum.>Kris was the one who treated her like a real friend by lending her Asriel's clothes.>Kris was the one who encouraged her to pursue healing.>Kris was the one who showed her how to create a Dark Fountain.>Kris was the one who ALWAYS went along with Susie's dumbass plans.>Kris was the one who gave her an actual group of friends.>Kris was the one who helped Noelle and Susie grow closer.AND HOW DOES SUSIE REPAY HIM?BY STEALING HIS CHILDHOOD FRIEND.BY STEALING THE CASTLE TOWN HE BUILT.Noelle's room ISN'T EVEN CONNECTED to Kris's anymore.Kris got COMPLETELY ROBBED the moment Susie finally got the popularity she'd always wanted.Never in my life did I think I'd see something like this in a video game. Susie is hypocrisy and self-centeredness incarnate. Kris did EVERYTHING for that bitch.
>>741968130like lost or PLL some writers are only really good at suspenseful mystery, payoff is hard to pull off once nevermind consistently
>>741957430I haven't finished it yet but I'm pretty sure it's going to be my least favorite chapter. The festival was underwhelming at best and the suselle beach scene is the worst thing in the game so far. The dark world was also pretty boring at first but it picks up once you get the feather. The flowers are cool with the exception of Yellow and Blue. Stuck on MewMew right now who is my least favorite schizo boss simply due to unoriginality. The biggest problem with the chapter right now is Susie being written like shit which is really disappointing after how good she was in chapter 4. Possibly over but I'm still going to play the next chapters.
FLOWER MAN was the best part of Chapter 5. Rest in peace my glorious king, you'll fly high.
I like to imagine Flowery is what an Adult Frisk is like
>if you play the normal route, Kris gets NTR'd and becomes a third wheel>if you play the weird route, he suffers from a double suicide by his childhood friend drowning him in the lake>and that's without considering that he's being puppeteered by the Knight to do their dirty jobWhat did Kris even do to receive such suffering?
>>741968957Rudy is The Knight anon. People need to STOP this cope of Dess being The Knight. The girl is godamn missing in Eternal Darkness.
Aqua Lewds inside!!!
Gaster was a made man.And Onion-san... wasn't.There was nothing we could do. We just had to sit there and take it. It was among the schizos. Real Goner shit.They even made him in to takoyaki, so his mother couldn't have an open casket at his funeral.
>>741957430So is her infatuation with Susie inflicted by the prophecy? Otherwise why doesn't she give a shit about Susie anymore here?Also I love Side B because it completely inverted how so many theories imagine Noelle. For so long it was "Kris and the Knight are protecting Noelle from getting killed by the prophecy". Now it feels more like "Kris and the Knight are trying to do something that prevents Noelle from going Dark Phoenix"
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5?Dark world was overall good, festival was some of the most egregious dogshit writing I've seen from Toby thus far. I do not care about teen lesbian romance at all.>Any hopes for Chapter 6?For the game to take its own plot seriously. Any tension or remotely heavy moment in this chapter gets undercut immediately after by gags or the aforementioned teen lesbian romance. Stark downgrade from 4.>Is it over?Nah, not yet.
Next chapter, Rudy will die and Noelle will try to revive him as a darkner Gerson style
This game was always better.
>>741968818I don't think the ACT and Bullethell fights can keep up another 20 hours. This system is really starting to show its limitations.
>>741969274What happened with rudy fucking dying in chapter 5 tho
>>741969118Fuck Kris. Kris deserves everything that happens to them until they show any indications that creating dark fountains and helping kidnap people is a good thing
>>741969285>Filename.webpyou monster
Abandon false tomboy lizards.Embrace true tomboy doe.
I was just joking when I said Big G had Onion go on vacation for threatening to spoil the plot early. I didn't actually expect the Goner Gang to execute him mexican-cartel style and sell his organs as street food. This bird really fucking scares me.
Why are people saying they liked the Dark World? It sucked compared to all of the chapters. The new Darkners were lame, the side-scrolling gimmick gets repetitive easily hell even the fights weren't that good.
>>741969415You mean the game that stumbled its way into a plot that only half-worked until it shit the bed in its pacifist and genocide routes? Come now anon, you aren't a Yellow larper, are you? Are you?
>>741969118>>Kris was the first one to reach out to Susie when everyone else was scared of her.That was a mistake. Susie isnt supposed to be the second hero. She cant equip swords. Kris already broke the narrative without our consent. Whatever happens in the prophecy, its likely to the 2nd Hero.
Did Rudy falling down deconfirm him as the knight?
>>741969332she likes susie on the normal route because she represents noelle's wish of being rebellious and breaking free from her life.on the weird route she doesn't give a shit about susie because she gets schizopilled by the thorn ring and realizes what it means to ACTUALLY break free. that's why she's disappointed in the aborted weird route, she retains that knowledge but the game world resets to her being with susie. nothing changed.
>>741969443Anon, Ralsei is the one who's asking him to create the fountains, they're progressing the prophecy.
>>741969607
>>741969427I get that most people skipped most of the dialogue in chapter 5 but no where in the story says that he died, just that he got injured after falling off a ladder
>>741957430This game used to be popular. Chapter 2 was a huge event. Now it took me a full 24 hours to even hear a new chapter was out.What happened?
>>741969427He just fell off the ladder and injured himself like it shows in the Weird route. That call, as well as Kris' Dark Fountain were perfect to keep Susie and Noelle away from each other. Kris also bribed one of the flowers to stall for time because The Knight was still injured from the fall. He was clearly not doing good on those legs.
>>741969561Those plots didn't shit the bed nor were they badly written. They're better written than anything in Deltarune by miles. Every criticism I've seen of the two routes are blatant misinterpretations done by retarded zoomers.
>>741969079You got me, I'm hopepilled now
>>741969506God so many dessigns of Dess are so good
Uuu~~ Aqua and Tasque manager are so cute!!
>>741969574susie is definitely the girl, not the second hero like she thinksthe image in that prophecy is just rude buster lmao
I don’t like that the weird route seems to be pushing toward the whole world just being a simulation because if “ooo it was all a simulation and the characters become self aware that they’re in a video game and in the alternate route you break out and explore the code of the game oooo” is the big twist that Toby Fox dreamed of and thought was so compelling he dragged it out for 10 years, that’s gonna be really disappointing because it’s been done to death at this point and has yet to really outdo DDLC which also didn’t really do it that great but at least didn’t take 10 years to get to its point.
what did Kris do during the night between CH4 and CH5
>>741969607Not really In fact, the Knight showed up to the Dark World late, and seemed to have a bum leg And Rudy still has some REALLY FUCKING WEIRD DIALOGUE
The one thing that makes me believe that dess is not the knight is the fact that its the most popular theoryI think most of the time the most popular theories in deltarune get deconfirmed by toby fox
I wish I liked Cutie Mew Mew Magic but I just don't like Hatsune Miku.
>>741968162Not him, but Toby writes the same type of characters all the time. Flowery has to be like the 4th variant of the wacky neuortic antagonist who harasses you constantly until you redeem them. He's the worst one too.
>>741969506I approve of this message.
>>741969693The phrase Carol used was "fallen down", even if Rudy isn't dying it was at least implied
>>741969693>>741969709in undertale "fallen down" is the coma monsters go into right before they dieit's intentionally ambiguous whether he fell off the ladder or is actually dying
>>741969807I need MORE fucking foxes
>>741969846Why is he kinda grey when he first gets back into the room
>>741957430Was that supposed to be an Ideon referencehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lUBBVU28Hx4&pp=ygUOaWRlb24gZXllY2F0Y2g%3D
chapter 1 is my favorite so garden of hopes and dreams was the only part of chapter 5 that i enjoyed
I'm not gonna lie a lot of the last 2-3 days feel like people were self-inserting way too hard and creating their own expectations instead of actually engaging with the material on its own terms. Jesus just go play Persona or something if you just want the self-insert jackoff tour experience.
(Swisches my big fluffy $$$$-ing tail)
>Deltatroons seething about Undertale yellow but never elaborating their criticisms at all, and the ones they do are all easily refutable.
>>741969956THEY SWISH THEIR BIG FLUFFY $!%&-CKING TAIL!!!
Has chapter 5 proven me correct?
>>741969707>used to
Dialogue like this makes me hard, unfortunately.
>>741969845I think it's less "Characters realize they're in a videogame and become self aware" and more "Hey it turns out our reality is fake and gay so let's find out what's beyond the boundary"
>>741970037I want her to swish her tail on my fucking FACE
>>741970050Not yet
you may not like it, but this is the actual endgame for kristhe more you think about it the longer you realize the chance is not a net 0
>>741969724Okay you're just a larper. Yellow threads were all filled with people agreeing the final sections of Pacifist and Genocide were severely mishandled, and it only became more obvious how accidental it all was when the devs basically revealed they hadn't thought about this stuff in the slightest >>741964604
>>741967361why is kris a different colour from aquagame makes a point saying that the two are the same shade of cyan
>>741957430I liked it because it was pretty much everything I expected outside of it giving us answers. I don't think /v/ will handle it well, though.
>>741969506hope you're ready for the inevitability of dess being:>ugly and fat>totally thought of asriel as a brother figure, ignore all that previous stuff (laughs)>had a super crush on bratty or something
>>741957430>Is it over?so overyou have no idea
People were mentioning the whole "Susie is brainwashed" thing and how Toby would probably use the Mike gang to make fun of it but what would his angle even be? people coping Susie is brainwashed are doing so to not say his writing is ass. If he confirmed she's not brainwashed then he would vindicate all the people who say he is terrible at writing romance
>>741970125Goddamn I need to go back to the cafe, I only went back to the shop where she was hanging out with Orange.
>thrash YOUR date's assThe NTR was right in your face from the beginning of the chapter.
>>741970132I'm noticing all this seething only happens amongst Deltarune fans. That post your linking isn't giving any argument either. It's just blithe whining.
>>741967054Obviously.
>>741969152He's far too high energy to be Frisk, but he could be a reasonable adult Chara if he self-actualized instead of giving in to doomerism
>>741969327
>>741970058What's wrong anon? it's just some wood
>>741965850I'm starting to think Alphys has good taste...
>>741970174>and how Toby would probably use the Mike gang to make fun of itliterally making shit up to get mad at. i genuinely hope some of you kill yourselves over this, we need less shitskins in the world
>>741969707>Hmmm shall I, Toby Fox, capitalize on my award-winning, insanely popular indie darling Undertale by releasing a pseudo-sequel within a timely fashion?>No, I shall release two chapters and then take a half-decade break while masquerading it as some nebulously injury, conveniently neglecting to disclose what it actually is while hob-knobbing with my heroes in Japan before dumping out a new gimmicky chapter that does nothing to advance the story and only leaves my fans with more questions than they started with>oh except this time I'm shoving a bunch of lesbian romance inside and making it the literal entire point of the whole thingChapter 5's Weird Route is unironically more enjoyable than the normal thing despite being a fraction of the length.
>>741969947Its not ambiguous in the slightest man. Carol is exagerating but hes not dying, just running out of steam. Hes still a hospital patient.
>>741957430My feelings on this chapter will be heavily dependent on where toby takes the story going forward. There are a lot of things being set up that could have absolutely horrible, tone-deaf payoffs if he doesn't stick the landing.
>>741967361Same except blue.
If you don't understand how the flowers (including Flowery and Pink) are a reflection of Kris's inner personality traits and thoughts then you should be barred from any sort of Deltarune theory speculation
>>741970203it was written under the assumption susie is the one picking her own outfit + haha funny chp 1 reference. you are genuinely ESL
>>741970246kek
>>741969574*taps the sign*
>>741965850
>>741970318Eat a nigger dick, you shill mongoloid
>>741970125Don't worry Susie will make sure to cockblock him again because apparently that's what bros do?Or maybe she's not actually that legendary bro people claim... hmm... perhaps... who knows... fuck you... Toby...
>>741969971I am also hoping for that. But if it is actually the case I'd rather it be an intense reveal by Ralsei after Kris and Susie fight or something like that than some gay asspull foreshadowed by a single vague line.
>>741970057also doesn't account for people like me who are invisible bc i don't want people to associate me with the tranny fanbase of this game.
Kris taking the seeds is the setup for Flowery reappearing in the finale
>>741970050They are intentionally recycled assets. Susie mentions Papyrus house is pretty new and she doesnt remember what was there before.
What the fuck was that nigger Kris doing out all night???
>>741970265No>You see that in weird route>Go to lake>Have the lake scene with noelle>Abort it>THEN Carol call Noelle This imply to be something different no?
>>741970313The lyrics to the song also made realize how Flowery is like the player.
>>741969574i really think that the second hero and the girl are two different roles nowat present, the roles are:kris, susie, ralsei, noelleoriginally, it was supposed to be:vessel, kris, ralsei, noellesomehow kris shunted the vessel out of the cage's role (with weird noelle help?) right at the start and took its role while letting susie fill his original onehowever, it seems that kris may not have fully thought this through as susie seems to be usurping kris' entire thing because she wasn't supposed to be here like this
>>741970290incredibly cute art
>>741970246it's funny that this was made before the chapter released
All memes aside is he the legit cuck king of vidya?
>>741969532What will your reaction be when this fucker turns gray?
/r/ing this redrawn with the yellow flower guy
>>741970447what were the playtesters doing to piss toby off this much
>>741969152Flowery is obviously a human Asriel. He doesn't really act like Frisk or Chara but he acts like how the town describes Asriel, as a golden boy. Plus he's a dude and they need to be girls
>>741970503>Greenish grayIs that nigga a goner?
>>741969967i saw someone recommending ideon to people who clearly have never heard of it because of this lolthey're in for a nasty surprise
me taking a picture of my wife
>susie is brainwashed!imagine being a neglected, homeless loser, who does terrible in school, isn't good at anything, ostracized by peers, then suddenly this cute girl is obsessed with you. susie isn't a flawless hero character who's going to pick up the white pen of hope and rewrite the story or whatever lol. she's acting a little selfish for once.
Deltatroons seething over yellow lol
>>741970258calm down cumguzzler, Toby Fox's dick is unscathed
>>741970447type shit >>> type crap
Every once in a while Toby Fox will drop some random background NPCs that will make you wish you had an automatic dick milking machine to even approach the feeling of what it would be like to be near them
>>741970246i will avenge himthose fucking gooners are going to regret ever being born
>>741970421>Deltarune is just The Big O
>>741970602shit >>> type crap
>>741970547I'll be waiting for the kino, anon.
>>741969947but in undertale monsters dust when they die, and onionsan was intact when goner bird was selling him at the festivalwe just don't know
>>741970125Toby hired a full team of artists and the game is STILL an ugly mashing of several different art styles and pixel sizes, quite impressive actually.
Has any song surpassed BIG SHOT yet?
I DID IT! I finally 100%'d Chapter 5, both the normal route and weird route WITHOUT using a guide or interacting with the internet once! I can finally use the internet again! Yipee! Finding those two foxes took me way longer than it should.So, how has it been going guys? What's the consensus?Holy fuck, the Weird Route was such a wild ride for me. I saw the fake "ending," and I was so disappointed in Toby. I couldn't believe the route ended with Kris and Noelle drowning while the rest of the chapter just carried on as if nothing had happened.In fact, I was so disappointed that I went into complete denial. I replayed the Weird Route, this time choosing "Stop" right before I lost the option to do so again. It didn't work. I tried again, but this time I picked "Stop" five times, then four, then three, then two, then once. Nothing worked.At that point, I was ready to declare Toby a complete hack. "How could he do this to us? We paid money for this" I thought. But of course that couldn't have been how the story ended. There had to be more. I was determined to find another ending, anything.So I did the only thing I had left to do: I selected "PROCEED" faster than I ever had before. I didn't look back. My fingers were moving at the speed of light as I desperately tried to reach the other side of the lake. For a moment, I genuinely felt the pressure Kris and Noelle must have been under. The frantic pace of mashing "PROCEED" made the whole sequence incredibly tense.And then I saw it: "INSERT CHAPTER 7 SIDE B." Honestly, even if it's a little anticlimactic, I was just relieved that the Weird Route continued. It felt like the fruits of my cold-hearted determination hadn't gone to waste. Bravo, Toby. You really had me there for a second.
>>741970573That's gone, the issue is that she recontextualoze everything around that crush. Her bullying of Kris? Because of Noelle
>>741970573>susie isn't a flawless hero character who's going to pick up the white pen of hope and rewrite the story or whatever lol.She was acting like it 4 hours before the chapter started.
Post times you acted like Flower Man
>>741970674big shot got surpassed last year spamtonfag
>>741970656type shit is what type crap is referencing
>>741970564
>>741970447imagine seething this hard because your playtesters are too good at video gamesusually people have the opposite problem, toby should be more grateful
>>741970573>then suddenly this cute girlthen suddenly THE PROPHECY, words with no uncertainty tell the absolute truth, says you're a hero. She says herself that she's basically fallen for it, saying that she feels like she has a purpose now. She's not being brainwashed or forced to act a certain way because of "the code" she's literally just desperately wishing to be important. And now she is, and she's been told she will fall in love, and jumping at the chance with someone she thinks she might have a crush on. Come on, it's not this fucking convoluted, she literally says what she's thinking in chapter 4
>>741970680>What's the consensus?NTR
>>741970573When they inevitably have to close the Dark Fountain at the school like Flowery said if there will be a bad ending where you have to kill Susie since she wont let her new home go.
>>741970674Nope. No character has surpassed Spamton yet either, but that comes as no surprise.
>>741970734>it's not just goner handbros...
>>741970709I do this when I bathe
a-at least we got a new waifu, right guys?WHY WASNT SHE AN ENEMY?
>>741970734Ahaha he's truly dead isn't he?
>>741965261>it's like the last "normal chapter" where you go to a Dark World, meet goofy friendly characters, go to a castle, seal the fountain, etcThe problem is that already happened. It was Chapter 3. Then shit hits the fan at the end of it, it escalates with 4 including a Titan, and then… oh whoops back to hijinks. Forget anything that just happened.5 is blatantly out of order.
>>741970503>SUSIE??? ARE YOU SAYING... THAT WHILE ASGORE IS IN MORTAL DANGER AND TORIEL IS FUCKING OUR NEIGHBOUR, WHILE I NEED YOU THE MOST, YOU ARE GOING TO TEAR DOWN MY ROOM IN CASTLETOWN AND MAKE SPACE FOR MY CHILDHOOD CRUSH, SO YOU BOTH GET TO SCISSOR EACH OTHER WHILE IM FOREVER KICKED OUT OF CASTLETOWN? ALL WHILE NOT EVEN LETTING ME WATCH, AS YOU SLAM THE LOCKER DOOR RIGHT ON MY FACE? WELL CLAP MY CHEEKS AND GO AHEAD! YABBA DABBA DOOOO!!!
>>741970725shit is what type crap is referencing
Prophecy rewriting the plot is real and you will all KNEEL to the dog. Never lose HOPE.
>>741970674>FLOWER MAN>FLOWER MAN>WITH HIS HEART>IN THE SAND
>>741970573So that gives you the excuse of exiling your best friend, who was the one who even gave you the chance with said cute girl? The lake was THEIR spot first, now she can't stand to go there with them.
Is it worth to do an abandoned weird route of Chapter 5?
Any chance anyone wants to make something of Seth throwing away the X% mercy but instead it's "Your post/ Your opinion."
>>741970834shit you are crap type is
>>741970843KINOOOO
>>741970674>>741970773Funny how Spamton is the most beloved hidden boss yet his battle is by far the easiest one.
>>741970414No, it's a setup for his Chara-style suicide.
>>741970856we don't know yet. it seems to be its own separate route, however this could just be bad coding
>>741970674big shot got surpassed since like, tv time and black knifenow its flower man
>>741970674Anon that's just not possible
>>741970630Could have easily surpassed the foxes if she got her own battle
>>741970903is
>>741970313It's an amalgam of things Asgore heard from Kris and Asriel when they were kids, which is why Flowery is literally ronald mugen that cheats and Ralsei is super buttmad over it
>>741970793can't work the trannies too hard, please understand
>>741970565Eh it'll be just like the Genocide Route in Undertale they'll be fine
>>741970794removing one's soul is not healthyremoving it for long periods of time is almost certainly painful i would argue that this is evidence against gooner kris as well, as him 'greying out' still resembles his skin colour instead of it being 'coloured in'it's akin to people who turn super pale when deathly ill i think
>>741970907Gerson is easier.
How do I cope wit the long wait for the Chapter 6? I want it now.
>>741970856Perhaps. People speculate it'll be a third route with the twisted sword.
>>741970503Kris is Oersted and that guy also got cucked. Toby literally said he was Kris's inspiration.
>>741970856That's what I'm wondering too. Chapter 6 seems like it will have Noelle prominently so it would be worth it do for that but it's a gamble
>>741970945Ironic because you are trying too hard
>>741967670>Maybe it was more of the fandom building the festival itself up more than the game, but still.Everyone in the game hypes it up in all previous chapters, and then it comes and goes inside of ten minutes with no impact whatsoever.
Toby has been confirmed to have an NTR fetish.https://dic.pixiv.net/a/バウムクーヘンエンド>An ending in which one of two close characters—who seemed destined to end up together—instead winds up with a completely different partner.>This term refers to a narrative outcome where one member of a pair—who seemed destined to end up together and were widely recognized as close—instead winds up with someone else. It is also sometimes written as "Baumkuchen End" (extending the second vowel sound).>There is a specific reason for the name "Baumkuchen." It describes a scenario involving a very close pair—the kind of duo people would comment on by saying, "They're really close," or "Are they dating?"—where one marries someone else. The other is asked to give a speech at the wedding reception, which they handle tactfully and even humorously, only to return home and eat the wedding favor—a Baumkuchen cake—all alone.
>>741957430I haven't even started.
>>741970674>>741970921big shot is the better hype song, but tv time mogs all the other regular boss songs and black knife is just a vibe of it's own
>>741970503Yes, it's over
>>741970856Probably even if aborted Noelle would still have the thornring so Snowgrave would still be available + everything that happened
flanderized ass characters - the game
mid shot
>>741970963itll probably be out around the same time next year (maybe even sooner) which is nothing compared to the waits for 2 and 3&4
>>741971049>pander to NTRfags>pander to troonswho will he pander to next?
>Roaring Knight slicing the 999s from Flowery’s attacks and turning them into zerosThat was sick
>>741970734Is Kris just the Vessel? Is there no real humans in Deltarune?
>>741970843Has anyone done a good vocal cover of Flower Man yet?
>>741968991Yeah I didn't hate Blue or anything, he was good in his role. Just not as likeable as the rest, like I wouldn't want to hang out with him.
>>741970839I care not for that since my main route, the better route, the weird route, breaks it and I take the deer for myself
>>741971049he can't keep getting away with it i wont fucking let him bully my daughter like this
>>741971107Pedos
>>741963880why do you think the Knight decided to just sneak kidnap him instead of fighting like the previous two chapters?
>>741971073>(You) x6why
>>741971092>flanderized ass characters - the gameOnly Susie was, and there is always the "Prophecy mindwarping" cope.Noelle, Kris, Ralsei, everyone else is acting like natural evolutions of their respective arcs. Noelle in particular.
>>741970571>World's slaughter, this time beneath the waterWhy would you sing that
>>741970290The flowers should be allowedd to visit Castle town on some occasions
>>741970674I THINK HE'S COMING FOR MEANSWER THE PHONEI CAN'T EXPLAIN TILL YOU'RE ALL ALONE
>>741957534FPBP
>>741971073temturd...
I will start playing new chapter tomorrow. What should I expect?
>>741970680Wow, I did the weird route on my first try, but I did mash proceed like a madman once I realized I could. So, what you just 'abort' the route if you fail?What did you think of Mew Mew? And the flowers?
Why did theybhype up the ferris wheel so much, especially in weird route, if it amount to litteraly nothing and you can skip it entirely? And why is it so small?
>>741971123Blue just doesn’t even feel like a Deltarune character there’s nothing to his design that makes him special, his personality is just “the gay one who talks about love all the time” it feels like either it was phoned in or a guest artist wanted to have a zesty black man in the game for representation reasons.
>>741970468I honestly think Kris was not the 2nd hero at all, I think Kris might actually have been the original KNIGHT role. The KNIGHT has existed long before the rest of the crew, when Kris removes the Human Soul he assumes the role of The Knight, despite The Knight being also its own entity later.
>>741970959>as him 'greying out' still resembles his skin colour instead of it being 'coloured in'It just means he isn't fully gone/dead
>Kris, you already know how I feel about you What did flowery mean by this. Why does he have a beef with Kris?Did he try and talk to Flowery when he set up the fountain like he did with Tenna and he didn't want to play ball?
>>741971236The same reason why mike isnt a real character
>>741971158Kris needs to be shipped with Berdly or Ralsei and not those whores. Or us with all the Kressel foreshadowing.
>>741971230If you are doing normal route then just hold C during the entire light world segment
>>741957430im fucking losing my mind to the bombs, the mannequin does nothing for me
>>741970734Does this mean Kris was always the Vessel?Somebody gave Kris a name and a SOUL after all?Or maybe, not specifically this vessel, but another onedoes this mean Meat Factory is real
>>741971230Kris suffering.Susie being the Prophecy's strongest soldier.Contrast between "Noelle" and Noelle.Ralsei being aggresive for once.
>>741970573Motherfucker, it doesn't make a lick of the sense going so much against the prophecy then suddenly leaning on it THE CLIFFHANGER OF CHAPTER 4 WAS LITERALLY HER GOING ON "WE'RE NOT GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN, RIGHT KRIS?"
>>741971236When it cut to black and had text over the screen my heart sank. I was expecting something like pokemon black and white and I got pokemon sword and shield instead.
>>741971049>it's trueDamn, no more FROIDENJUMPEN
>>741971234you need to complete 5 and 6 on 'side b' with no new content/slightly different dialogue, like chapter 3 so you have a B Side chapter 7 SAVEOR - you start a new weird route in 6/7 and that SIDE B has to link up with Noelle's side B
>>741971234if you fail the mashing, kris and noelle drown for real, then the game snaps back the normal route and you get flashes of scenes from the normal route interspersed with noelle monologuing about how she was wrong and nothing changed. it's not all perfect though, because susie notes that kris has wet hair.it remains to be seen if this is another branching path or not, but the potential is there since noelle still has her meta knowledge.
>>741971236It was important to Kris.And Noelle too.
>>741969134Just a thought, but the Knight is taking people to a shelter. Every consider the knight is kidnapping people to protect them? Kris either killed Dess or Asriel or both, and the knight is targeting people closest to Kris because they're most likely to be killed next. Noelle knows what happened or is also responsible and that's why she's so messed up psychologically.
>>741970793>>741970630I need mantis pussy
>2398 drowning scene pics>500 Nun Tasque pics>200 Aqua pics>20 s*selle picsREALLY makes you think
>>741971236same question can be asked about the festival in general anonit was disappointingly short and off screened, we couldn't even date berdly and we still don't know what's on the other side of the police tape
>>741971230Lesbians.
Why does Kris act like he's dying / sick like Rudy in CH5 Weird Route?
>>741971320>Did he try and talk to Flowery when he set up the fountain like he did with Tenna and he didn't want to play ball?Probably when he made a deal with Seth.
>>741971381It cut to black because for whatever reason Kris didn't want you to experience that
>>741971357>First Kris fucking Dies>Someone replaces him with a goner copy>Only a few people notice he's acting differently
>>741971320He cares about Kris but he knows they changed in a negative way since the last time.
>>741971409>2398+1
Mew Mew's puss-puss on my face, Maddie's fanny on my cock
>>741970573why does susie even like noelle again?I mean other than toby's yuri fetish
>>741971398It’s kinda implied Sans stepped in because you’re forced to receive the bread from him which leaves a trail of breadcrumbs and after you drown and wake up it’s gone from your inventory
Its kinda funny how irrelevant sans is
>>741970680Fun fact anon even if Kris and Noelle drown, the jingle noises of the broken Weird route dont play. There's two Weird Route paths.
>>741971350Think Bomberman - you just have to quickly find a row and a column with no bombs and you're safe where they cross. They start coming fast so it's a little tricky, sometimes you'll have to wait for old ones to explode and quickly move into those spaces. But you'll get it.
>>741971409Strange. I thought the yuri would be more popular than the hetero ship, especially since "le rape bad".
>>741969250>What did Kris even do to receive such suffering?Not fucking telling anyone anything, let alone us.
Nothing... is stronger than a Flower's D-AIEE
>>741971306the new knight theory is that somehow kris and noelle fused together in the weird route like chara and asriel in undertaleyes i know it's just 'dess with kris' soul' but with noelle, but at least we actually have something to work instead of baseless speculation
85 percent of my download folder in the last 3 days has been of aqua with the remaining 15 percent being art of maddie with tits fatter than her head
>>741970057>go woke go bro-
>>741970540terror
>>741971451He gave up, entirely, on everything and know what's about to happen, same reason he desperately tries to stay in bed but (you) force him to move
>>741971510>Gives (You) the bread to undo drowning in Side B or glitch into Chapter 7 Side Blol, lmao
>>741971435>>741971381>>741971236chapter 5 is entirely fake and the real festival happens in chapter 6 trvst
>>741971505i thought the bread was a reference to mother 1? you can do an out of bounds glitch with it in that game, and that's what noelle is trying to do by crossing the lake.
Did anyone else think the Scarecrow enemies were cool? I love their design.Also best theme:
>>741971113yellow is going unreasonably hard in this pic
>>741957430>pervious chapter is all about how irony poisoning and being to predictable kills a story>chapter 5 is the most ironic and predictable chapter by far>is the most hated chapter with people saying it killed the storyBRAVO TOBY
Do you think this chapter would have been better received if it came after TV world but before the church?
>>741971409where are you seeing thse numbers?
>>741971580...may I see it?
Uhh, guys...?
>>741971542It all comes down to chemistry.
>>741971580May you share it? I want Aquas too
>>741971505Then why the fuck doesn't he step in when they try to fuck off out of the boundaries
>>741971557
>>741971339noelle still has deep feelings for kris if you keep her away from susieand the weird route states that noelle feels trapped and hates the entire town once she's realized what it is
>>741971621no
>>741969035>accidentally knocks over several buildings
>>741957430I think I figured the way to stop the prophecySince JOCKINGTON never showed upWith a beard in my run
>>741971603https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGmc1BOyPYforgot the link like a dumbass
>>741971510>Only mandatory encounter on the weird route>Gives you what you need to break the game and reach the other side>irrelevant
>>741969532
>>741971660Because it's really, really interesting
>>741971628>Chapter 7 is a fucked up version of UndertaleTONY
>>741957430>Use Sailor moon as intro jingle>No sailor moon reference nor super sentaiWhat happened to Tobys weeb spirit?
>>741971510He's only irrelevant on the normal route. Weird route is how you start sending his ass to Undertale.
>>741971559No sir not getting out of this Titian spawn with dess' soul shaped chair
>>741971592Apparently whatever's down there is pure evil, is it gaster? His stats are all 666, there's definitely some sort of satan analogy going on there
I don't think the direction the weird route went is what toby originally planned for back in chapter 2
>>741971374>Susie being the Prophecy's strongest soldierHuh, wasn't she supposed to be anti-Prophecy?
>>741971667AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
How am I supposed to support the wholesome yuri couple if the real Noelle supposedly hate everything about it?
>>741970656kek
>>741971474>The real Kris is fucking dead since the incident and we've been playing as a drone copy of Kris all along
>>741971580Seconding the request to share, those two are my favorite characters and Aqua in particular is a peak NIVEA Protect & Care.
>>741971049>Toby has been confirmed to have an NTR fetish.That's obvious even without this cake bullshit.
>>741971357>was kris always the vessel?no>someone gave kris a name and soul afterkris likely always had the soul due to being human, but kris may have been given a name long after depending on how much stock you put into the aqua and kris parallels >is meat factory realalmost certainly due to happy town being referenced in the weird route
>replaced an actual 3rd sanctuary track with the shitty meme 4rd versionwanna bet toby did this in response to people actually liking the damn minigame enough to make their own standalone version of it?
>>741957430do you guys think that Flowery would have had a better chance against the knight if he was able to go omega flowery again?
>>741971618yes, the pacing is one of the biggest problemssusie and ralsei's behavior specifically would make a lot more sense if 4 and 5 were swapped, and it would make 5 properly feel like a shit gets real chapter instead of another chapter where the plot doesn't progress despite being well over the halfway point
>>741959579I wonder if after resolving all the drama and saving the day will Toby let us re do a date with Susie as epilogue
Noelle is a little brat that needs to be wrangled
>>741971739She's against the parts she doesn't like. Remember how excited she was in the Second Sanctuary, for "Love finds the Girl" panels?
>>741971409it has been said in the past and I'll say it again: suselle is tasteless white bread, the white rice with chicken memezero real chemistry, zero sauce, zero seasoning
>>741971660He's taking his orders from Gaster.
>>741971230>What should I expect?NTR
>>741971776That and the countless "Xth/Xrd" Sanctuary remixes/arranges on Youtube and Soundcloud.
That last cutscene with Susie being welcomed by all the silly cartoonish Darkners of castle town reminded me of the fucking "Starscream made cookies" escapism comic
>>741971783I don't think so since the knight cheated their way into victory by turning the 9's into 0's anyway
>>741971409>>>200 Aqua picsNot enough. I will help the loli machine.
I'm still shocked that purple soul was used on Mew Mew. I always imagined something like FRIEND having purple soul given the "he pulls the strings and makes them ring" shit. Or December having purple soul because of guitar strings.What do you guys think will have Blue soul? We're out of shadow crystal holders. But on the other hand, Flowery invented a whole new soul color mechanic with Orange Bravery. So anybody is on the table now.
>>741971510Yeah I was surprised the don't forget picture was a nothing burger this whole time.
>>741971808*who needs Susie, Noelle or Burghley**I have a small flower version of myself to play with all day and night*
The most hilarious thing about Deltatroons seething over Undertale Yellow is that they pretend as though the bad writing problems of yellow somehow make Deltarune's abysmal writing look any better when Yellow's writing still BTFO's it in almost every way.
>>741971559I doubt it, I suppose its better if we start labelling them as they should be labelled.The Roaring Knight is not the original KnightThe Strange Knight is, and that is Kris.The Roaring Knight is most likely Rudy, and sharing the same roles they are working together, likely to achieve something related to Dess or to protect everyone from the incoming apocalypse.
>shelter code is september 15 199X>something must have happened in that date for Asgore to use it as a code>undertale released on september 15what the FUCK does this mean
>>741971540>kris is now averse to himself like he is with other humanspoor fucking kid
>>741971602>>741971592It’d be kinda disappointing if the inciting incident for the other half of the game is based on a glitched mechanic from an entirely different game
>>741971542ok in case you didn't notice, women complain about rape so much because they're thinking about it 24/7. when they do surveys the fetish is almost purely for women. so yes of course its popular with them
>>741971880ToT
>>741971502because susie's flaw is that she latches on to anything that makes her feel loved/important>dark worlds make her feel like a hero, give her friends, a purpose, power>toriel shows her the slightest kindness and susie builds her up to be this flawless guardian angel>noelle has a crush on her and susie wants to make it true love. noelle and kris are probably the only people to ever love herthis is the first time in susie's life that she's ever had an adult care about her, a girl love her, a friend spend time with her, or felt special in any way. the finale is going to be brutal
>>741963475He confirmed Suselle but also made it a drama story where Kris is confirmed to either also be into Susie or Noelle. Also suselle might be a prophecy influencing Susie and Noelle as its written really corny
>>741971937I don't know how to tell you this but this entire game is mechanics from other games
>>741971903Undertale might be a dark world.
>>741957430>susie spends a large chunk of chapter 3 and 4 talking about how she wishes she could take ralsei to the festival>barely acknowledges him during the actual festivalHUH???
We're going to get TADC'd aren't we, fellow retards?
>>741971451It's a meta commentary about how Weird Route Kris is [You]r puppet. Chapter 4 ends with him in bed, and Chapter 5 starts in the morning; Kris had no choice but to lie there until [You] took control again. All he could do is sob while his body betrayed him.
>>741971684To be fair he is still irrelevant after that for the time being. Susie is the one making you go take ice cream and the bread isn't confirmed to do anything..
>>741971903Spamton's glory year was 1997 and we can assume that was the year people brought the laptop to Kris's house.
>>741971049>>741971771Uh? What's that Susie? You want to BUILD a ROOM for my childhood friend Noelle? And you want ME to do It? Wait, you want to JOIN her room to YOURS? So you can have MIND-BLOWING LESBIAN SEX every single night? Yikes, Susie, that's...what's that? You want me to WATCH? I NEED to be there every single night so I can Fetch you WATER? I HAVE to sit in the corner like a good KEK eating MOSS while you eat my childhood bestie's deer pussy? Wait, you want me to RECORD It too?? I have to put my DRUNK SLUT MOTHER on silence so I can record you with my shitty Android phone she bought me after buying and iPhone to Asriel??? And I can WATCH them and let my ELDRITCH HORROR FROM THE GREAT BEYOND HEART force me to JERK OFF my dick to them when I'm ALONE in my room after helping the ROARING KNIGHT kidnap my DEADBEAT LOSER DAD?? Susie...I say PROCEED! YABBA DABBA DOO!
>>741971990PSYOP
>>741971667Yeah but I doubt she will like Kris in the normal route. They need the Vessel.
>>741971870flowery cheated first by making fake numbers anyway, the knight was just playing along by cutting them up instead of ignoring them entirely
>>741971903>We have the date>We have the time>What's left is the location
Tryin to figure out how I wanna draw Toriel. Goin for a Paul Coker Jr kinda look, the Rankin-Bass stuff he designed for.
>>741971660because that's the goal. he gives them the bread specifically to help them escape.
>>741971891If we fight Seam for the PureCrystal, that's absolutely where Blue Mode is coming in.Cyan won't be a mode we play as, not while we're piloting Kris at least, but instead a mode that represents him regaining full autonomy, seeing as how it's all but confirmed to be his original soul color.
>>741971592Oh yeah, I forgot that Pippi was the mayor's daughter, a mayor just like Carol
>>741965935Ganbatte!
>>741963880Lightners suppose to be much stronger in dark world so whats with strongest monsters from Undertale getting captured by The knight like bitches??
>>741971049>>741971771I fucking hate this dog
>>741971954this was foreshadowed when she ran ahead of kris to chase after "the girl" prophecy panels
>>741971603sunset of 7 suns forma de 2016https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohBLWsjZD4wwas very disappointed with the ost this time, i don't feel the need to listen to any of it again
>>741971236It wasn't that big of a deal but it didn't amount to nothing either. Throughout the festival you can do things with Noelle in the normal route that's SUPPOSED to be so Suselle centric. The ferris wheel is one of the festival rides that makes Noelle heavily retrospective and looking back fondly to her times with Kris. It even reveals that Kris shaking the car was just him trying to cheer her up because they didn't win King and Queen, losing to Asriel and Dess.
>>741971903If it was 201X it could've been the date Chara fell in. Maybe it's the date Kris was adopted?
>>741971738Thats what makes it so interesting though. and I beg to differ, I bet he planned the Rose withering in Chapter 4 for Noelle not as a "Deflowering" look but to relate to Asgore's story about his obsession. Seeing as the updated one, the thorns, matches the strings that go in Asgore's direction and make him red.
>>741971783he does, i genuinely wonder why no one talks more about this, he goes omega flowery if you DONT talk to the flowers.he does stand a chance and the knight loses another shard of their sword. it scapes with asgore anyways, but flowery doesnt die.
>>741968130they better be long... and completion gated with different events and flavor dialogue for the second true ending route otherwise I'm leaving a negative review on steam and tony is done for
>>741972079>Cyan won't be a mode we play asThere's a theory that this was Cyan
>>741972101She should have Marisa's ass attack, and use it on me
APOLOGIZE
>>741972113Look at this criminal, send it to jail.
>>741972167Post link.
If anyone has watched Big O, then I think the lightworld is basically the same thing. If pic doesn't remind you of Spamton then I don't know what to tell you either.Its all fake... are even our memories real?
>>741971954except susie acts like she always liked noelle, not like she suddenly developed feelings after noelle started being nice to her
Twisted Sword enjoyers, do you guys think there will be a difference in aborting weird route at chapter 2 or chapter 5?
>>7419705712-for-1 deal man
On a range of calm to ANGER how ANGRY are you with the characters?
>>741972167proofs or gay
>>741971738Weird route feels the most intentional concrete thing in here. A story about you wanting to break your chains and limits of the world only to go too far and completely break the game in every way in the process
>>741972190I fully expect hqlf the flowers to fqll into irrelevancy with them
WAIT DONT
>>741972190This will be the superior trio in Chapter 6
>>741972005I will say this: At least Deltarune was actually good in its first 4 chapters, TADC was never good and was always carried hard by its character designs/premise so it never had a chance at not having a dogshit ending.
>>741970573she got brainwashed overnight dude, its the whiplash that rubs people the wrong way
>>741972069We'll get to a fucked up copy of Hometown that Kris will color in with care
>>741972005if toby has the balls to make kris trans and then immediately kill himselfbut does he?
>>741972016>He's still irrelevant until his relevance becomes knownNo shit sherlock
>>741972005Copium stonks seem to have mooned again compared to the last 3 days.
>>741972229You can’t take the thorn ring off of Noelle so you probably won’t be able to craft the sword in Chapter 5 aborted
what
>>741972280it's the place you can see from mancountry.
>>741967265Post full?
>>741970503he only gets proper pussy thanks to us, if he was fully in control he'd ask to watch
>>741972324starman reference
>noelle actually has a new title this chapter alongside an unused new weaponseriously what is that dog up to with this shit
>>741972183I wouldn't call this a soul mode anymore than feather platforming was a soul mode. IE it wasnt.
Seems that chapter 6 will be about Susie and Noelle getting over the lake to fulfill their roles in the prophecy. So probably were getting underwater, grotto and island levels
>>741972290why call him relevant then? Maybe the bread will amount to nothing.
>>741971981That's true of every video game that comes out these days. The range of possibilities of what can be done with a controller or mouse and keyboard has been exhausted. There's no mechanic you can't break down and point to some other existing games having those parts. Now innovation is about spinning and combining existing things in unconventional ways.
>>741972324No more Starwalker appearances after Chapter 5. Enjoy your title.
>>741972324Starwalker has been replaced by the Ghost of Starwalker
>>741971903Undertale is a Dark World.Trust the plan.
>>741972346>we're going to unlock playing as Noelle for all chapters
Okay, I'm furthering this new crackpot theory around Weird Noelle being the Knight actually.The Knight itself is a fusion of Weird Noelle and Weird Kris, shaped through the glass of her lost dream: Dess.They reset the game in the end of Chapter 7B and got Current Kris on their side in whatever they're planning with the reset.Meanwhile, the "Narrator" is Weird Noelle, just like how Chara was Undertale's narrator. She's the one from the start that told us "Your choices don't matter, you don't get to choose who you are in this world." This also means she is most likely ERAM, fucking with the current Kris, and that's why Sword Route is a layout of Weird Route and why "ERAM" seemed to be responding to the ARG about Weird Route, cause it's her story.The biggest issue is how far back could she have done this? Asgore said there was a Dark World with the same Black Shard years ago when Dess disappeared. Did Weird Noelle really go all that way back?
>>741972065I love her with a big nose
>>741972363This is more referential than any other game though.
>>741972346Either loop theory or there's a way to bring Noelle in the dark world somehow
>>741972383Stargroomer
>>741972242>>741972215you already know what to do, i am NOT fighting that guy again for a screenshot
Man, everything is really fucked, the government is probably gonna shut down the internet after september here in russia, I won't see the next chapter :(
>>741972383
>>741972346Notice how all of the equip items/other stuff is all with just Kris. I genuinely think Susie might miss out on the next dark world.
>>741972346More and more clues she's supposed to be playable and yet...
I JUST HAD A FUCKING BRAIN BLASTRALSEI LIKES BEING STEPPED ON BECAUSE IT RELATES TO THE THING HE REALLY ISRALSEI IS GRASSRALSEI IS GRASS
>>741972452Fuck... We'll have no more pirated games at this rate...
>>741972428Have you finished the chapter?
>>741972452Good fuck russians let them die
>>741972417i believe it because playing as the knight sounds kino
>>741972458Aqua and Flowery images are the only things I'm saving from this chapter.
>>741972478>Kris threw a bunch of grass into the school closet and now it's their most viable romantic partner
>>741972324it's a dragonball reference
I enjoyed it but im less excited about chapter 6. Is that a weird thing to say? Im just at the point of the story where im asking "where the fuck is this going?". Chapter 5 was built to catch players up to speed and we know we are going into the bunker already. There was hardly anything new (minus Weird route) given or even alluded to. Im lookin at my watch wondering if he is really gonna pull a Mother 3 exposition dump right at the end before the big finalie that sucks up all the pacing
>>741972510Yeah, did i say something retarded?
>>741971981What's the game that combines both 2D platforming and 2.5D exploration? I thought that was a cool gimmick but I just know Toby didn't come up with that on his own.
>>741972354How can you call him irrelevant? Maybe the bread will amount to something.
>>741957430So what came out on 15 sept. 199x? Or was someone born then?Also I liked the chapter's gameplay a lot and 2hu references, secret boss was super fun. Susie and Noelle romance is giga cringeworthy and annoying though kinda ruined the light world parts, I'm glad they let you skip some of it but there's way too much
>>741972478ralsei has a colored sprite, meaning he is not a plantner
>>741967054I'd give her $20 to eat me___________
>>741972417>Kris knight is backfuuuuuuuck
>>741972229don't you just not have the thorn ring at all if you abort on chapter 2? soulless kris takes it off noelle, right?
>>741972280It would be unironically kino if Noelle and Kris just decided to make that Hometown their own hometown
>>741972596anon...
Anyone has that Jackenstein board image theory? How well does it match the new chapter wrongwarp?
>>741972452what happened this time?
>>741972239upset at susieworried for ralseinot sure how to feel about noelle for obvious reasonsi feel so fucking bad for kris holy shit
>>741957430I'm waiting on a sweepstakes update to tease how the fuck you're supposed to get the Twisted Sword because I'm not about to abort in the wrong chapter or in the wrong hyper specific whatever way and join Kris in getting cucked.
>>741972417>Meanwhile, the "Narrator" is Weird NoelleWhy would Noelle cite Gaster lines 1 to 1
ohhhhI get itwhy is there an eye on the book though
>>741971820Imagine getting pulled in two directions by both dess and a small noelle
>>741972614you can play weird until you get the thorn and then just never equip it to noelle
Aha!
>>741972624>"Nothing changed."
I think I figured out what Ralsei is. Kris' original SOUL. That's why the red horns and the shape of Asriel, because that's what Kris wanted to be. That's neither Lightner nor Darkner.
Joelbros, what did he think of it? I can't bring myself to watch the VOD.
>KRIS PEOPLE ARE IN REAL DANGER WE NEED TO FIND SOMEONE TO HELP US AND IT HAS TO BE NOELLE YOU SEE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE NOELLE
>>741972624FUCK
>>741972257Justice for my boy Onionsan #SwimHigh #TooSoon #RestInPower
>>741972593I called him irrelevant **for the time being** because it has yet to amount to anything, and precisely because it could amount to something. What are you trying to argue for exactly?
>>741972707There's two voices in the Goner Maker, the first is Gaster. The second is Weird Noelle then, and she's the one that keeps narrating everything else as the game plays on.
>>741972417I believe it.
>>741972229I believe that the Twisted Sword is a essential part of Weird Route and not its own route. The "insert chapter 7 side b" implies we will have to go back to chapter 5 after completing ch7 and PROCEED through the lake to finally achieve the conclusion of the weird route."Aborting" at the lake is necessary to get the final shadow crystal so we can craft the sword and finally break the game for good by chapterhopping.
>>741972731Once all the chapters is out it's going to turn out that 85% of the dialogue in this fucking game was just nothing but foreshadowing
>>741972731Oh my fucking god
Dessriel bros. Thoughts on asriels gay letter?
>>741972718darkworld symbolism that everyone ignored after chapter 1
>>741972239Pretty ANGRY right now.>spend the entire beginning being forced to help Susie plan for her date>can't get away from them during the Festival, this big event that has been hyped up for years now; all you can do is be a third-wheel and try and insert yourself between them>chapter is half-rehash of chapter 1, this time with extra weeb>Toby's sucking off of Japan was on full display, even the secret shard boss was a kawaii uggu~~ anime catgirl>half of the content in the castle is about Susie's love>the other half is Rasiel being cryptic and deliberately obfuscating things from you>big nothing burger ending, followed by Kris being literally kicked out of his adventures with SusieBasically felt like, "what the fuck was the point of this?" at the end. All this wait and Toby is still moving the plot at a fucking snail's pace, like nigga just write lesbian fanfics like you are so clearly desperate to do.Weird route was better.
>>741972762He didn't finish it yet and didn't stream yesterday. He seemed fine but fed up with the suselle stuff toward the end but enjoyed the rest a lot, especially the mega man zero stuff
>>741972452we'll ship you a pen drive with the full release and more character nsfw fanart
>Flowery points out that flowers are living things, but they become darkners in the dark world- so they are living things that are considered objects>While Ralsei considers this stupid, Flowery points out that Ralsei himself is exactly alikeI guess we know where Kris's chud-ass soul went while we're busy skinsuiting him.
>>741972651what is it anon
>>741972810keep huffing that copium
>>741972762I haven't watched it either (because I just finished chapter 5) but I already know the faggot chat's gonna be more insufferable than ever since this chapter gave them a lot of ammo.
>>741972803Nice.
>>741972417last night there was an idea that the one who discarded the vessel, the second entity in the opening, was actually weird route noelleher telling kris that 'no one can choose who they are in this world' certainly makes sense coming from her after her schizo awakening in ch5
>>741972239Im angry at Toby that the festival was a big nothingburger outside of the extensive yuri scene.
>>741972324>final starwalker>getting the egg has the man explicitly say to not look for him anymore because you have them all>weird route skips 6 entirelyso what the fuck is actually gonna happen in 6?
>>741972839
>>741972718>flowery says plantners can all sense things lightners cant and that there's a terrible darkness brewing beneath the town>seth is the intelligent and inquisitive one, was probably the most interested in looking into iti wouldn't be surprised if seth's notes come back up in a future chapter
>>741972829>help Susie plan for her datethis shit wasn't even a date in chapter 4. it was just "oh yeah that'll be fun"what the fuck happened. was seam serious about spending the night in the dark world?
>>741972417>Kris's promise to the Knight was the promise of breaking the fake and gay script of the universefuarkkkkk
>>741972829>spoileras always
>>741972838>I guess we know where Kris's chud-ass soul went while we're busy skinsuiting him.seems backwards for his personality
>>741972596dess' disappearance is the boring and probable answer
>>741972839Doesn't match the 90s but I guess it's just a cute nod towards that, neat
>>741972908>was seam seriouswhy wouldn't he be?
This lustful beast should not being wearing holy clothing
>>741972239Just angry at Susie.
>>741972478now tell me how grass moves between dark worlds
>>741972797>There's two voices in the Goner MakerDo you base this on something tangible or do you treat as a consequence of your theory?...
>>741972731
>>741968957Rudy's surprise is going to be that he fucking knew Gaster and all the meta shit already and just doesn't care Have zero evidence, just a hunch
>>741972880>so what the fuck is actually gonna happen in 6?Something that should've happened in chapter 4, we're gonna see the plot finally pick up the pace and it's about damn time.
>>741972983Why are sexy nuns such a common trope? who ever looked at an actual nun and thought "damn i wanna fuck that"
I miss Tenna
>>741972452>the government is probably gonna shut down the internet after september here in russia,Nothing's going to happen. Relax.
>>741972924Very backwards. But I think it's just a wrong assumption that they'd need to be exactly alike.
>>741972832>He seemed fine but fed up with the suselle stuff toward the end but enjoyed the rest a lot, especially the mega man zero stuffpretty much my reaction to the chapter too. the platforming is so much fun. It's why i'm all in on prophecy psyop. >>741972864>faggot chat's gonna be more insufferable i only do chatless VOD for these games. There is only so much pronoun policing i can take. I hope he notices susie's delusions and is going crazy by the credits and spends some time theorycrafting without chat
>>741972478so there is grass >in the school closet>in kris's house>in the librarby>in the church>in asgore's shop?This isn't very convincing.
I want to bring up how Noelle in WR expresses her inner hatred for people who just monotonously march on with their lives every single day without purposeand Susie in chapter 4 said she wants every day to be the same. Get ready for Suselle destruction
I'm shocked that even in schizo Toby dicksucking fan circles some people are actually brave enough to express disappointment in Chapter 5But this is just leading to other tripling down on ACTUALLY IT'S THE BEST CHAPTER SO FAR!!!!!!I can understand really liking it but you can't tell me anyone who calls it the BEST chapter isn't just a mix of recency bias and an absolute desperate need to be seen as having the most interesting taste. Trannies flock to "actually this bad thing... is good" like moths to a flame. Something about their specific brand of pseud autism makes it impossible to resist doing this.
>>741972998This is actually a long-standing theory since chapter 1 first dropped. Gaster's diction is accurate to previous Gaster dialogue for all of it but the 'No one can choose who they are in this world', which matches Chara's diction. It's even more obvious in the JP dialogue too.
>>741972838Raslei fetus theory
>>741969427You are simply supposed to not think about it
So the Floradinns are also sentient Plantners, right? Here they are behind glass, green and pink.
>>741973157I don't think fetii are considered objects unless you think Toby Fox will make Carol explicitly cite Roe vs Wade in Chapter 6.
>>741972764Yeah I assumed she was going to mention Rudy, the Mayor, or LITERALLY ANY OF THE FUCKING ADULTS IN THE TOWN.But nope, it's about her girlfriend.Deltarune really is a representation of how it feels when your friend gets a girlfriend for the first time huh?
>>741973136Why do I get the feeling that the next chapter is going to come crashing down and burning with no survivors?
>>741972998... You serious?The first voice is clearly soft spoken and wavy and shit, that's Gaster. Same way he talks with us in the halfway mark and when we try to refight the Knight.There's a second voice that cuts in when saying the vessel will be discarded. It's flat and not like Gaster's at all. I even heard in the Japanese that it speaks clearly differently there.
>Weird route>Environments, some where downright amazing>Music>Aqua, Flowery, Seth, Orange and Green>ACT/Platformer style change (seems to be a bit divisive)>Noelle + Kris King and Queen ballot and riding the ferris wheel with herThat's about the only good things coming out of this chapter in my opinion after taking some time to think about it now. Not bad but not great either. Story was just something that barely worked, serviceable, the fact that the weird route can skip it entirely shows it's not that important. Pacing felt a by dragging on at times. Suselle bullshit and the two flower faggots were annoying to tolerate. Various dialogue here and there was just painful, like the whole what was basically gender talk between the flowers.
>>741972731the noelle clipping thing has always been in the back of people's minds once we learned that noelle glitches games for fun in the sweepstakes
>>741968558Aqua>Blue>Seth>Yellow>Flowery>Orange>GreenThey were all good, though. Flowery was dragged down by how shit he was for the first third of the chapter.
>>741957430>Enjoying Chapter 5? No. Finished everything day 1. Hate it. Gameplay and music were good but writing was a complete waste of time. We needed some levity after chapter 4, but not so much that it squanders everything that chapter 4 had done.>Any hopes for Chapter 6? A few>That we never touch on chapter 5's dark world even in passing.>Give the town any substance beyond "The place where everyone is happy despite Kris supposedly being a loner".>Undo the character assassination with Susie, holy shit she used to actually be considerate about Kris' feelings instead of chasing Noelle's skirt. I don't need her love interest to change so much as I need the romance to not ruin the story>Resume the rising action that chapter 4 started and chapter 5 should not have abandoned.>No more vagueposting. I don't even care about the mysteries at this point, I'm just beyond sick of Toby teasing a story instead of actually telling a story. We should know WAY more now than we do with the finale just around the corner.>Stop with the irony or the subversions or the nonstop-jokes-a-panel nonsense because levity needs sincerity or else you lose any grip on the story. Gerson warned you about this shit, Toby; you have no excuse for making the same mistake.>Focus on what we actually care about. Give it all the time it's due and don't let it feel rushed. That's gonna be really hard to do now, because of how much time you wasted in chapter 5, and how little time you have left to wrap EVERYTHING up.And more, but I'm near the character limit>Is it over?Very
https://youtu.be/fFPZUPpT9wo>there won't be a third route if you don't drown in the lake
>>741972998it's been known for a fact since ch1 got a japanese translation, bro. the two voices have very different manners of speaking.
>Deltarune Chapter 5 ending cutscene
>>741972762I NEED to see his reaction to the weird route
>>741969693He did not "fall off a ladder" in weird route, he was having a heart attack or some shit in the ground. Carol definitely meant "fall down" in UT terms. Flowery being a big Rudy parallel only drives that harder.
>>741972063>Last code are real world coordinates
>>741972802can't be part of the weird route, seam says that the ch5 crystal is the last and you noclip into ch7 before entering the dark worldaborted snowgrave is a legitimate route again
>>741973098>switch joycon soul mode is blue and red>mix them together and you get>purpleson of a BITCH
>>741973214I think they are as much objects as plants are (living beings that aren't sentient) but i guess that would depend on the game's interpretation of embryos since it's a very touchy subject
>>741973108He did enjoy it at face value, dressing up Susie wqs funny and he did pick most of the suselle option at the festival so he doesn't care that much, but he obviously care more about the main plot. He found the Siivagunner rip reference awesome and hope it was a grand dad refere’ce too>>741972864Chat got insufferable when he tried to find the egg in the room right before Aqua and tried to water every square to littéralement get all the wheat. Chat was telling him to just continue and shit like that. Got worse as more people progressed in thr chapter
>>741972417that tracks with the amalgam audio in the lake scene
Do you guys think Dess dead and we are searching for corpse? Or she is stuck in limbo?
>>741970447Next chapter is GUARANTEED to have a latinx character that will exist exclusively to be humiliated with how pissy and spiteful this faggot is over literally anything.
>>741972826she clearly liked it doesn't burgerpants say the two of them were fucking every time the other went over for 'practice'?
>>741973250Oh yeah, wanna add I liked Mew mew too. But hey I know that she's even more divisive.
>>741973151im a tranny and i just think this chapters dogshit, what now, faggot.
>>741973339>Last code is (you)r ip adress
>>741973316>gets into the jewish subversion mindrape machine
>>741973249>>741973153Yeah right, I forgot about that part having different text. Is there anywhere else where this diction is used?
>>741973226Susie has trust issues with adults because they've consistently failed her between shit parents and those who can't handle her tendency to lash out as a result of her shit parents or break her standards like Toriel did, further compounding her distrust of adults.All the other teens hate her for being a bully and/or stealing Kris and/or Noelle away from them.Noelle's the only teen aside from Kris that actually likes her, and it also gives them an excuse to return to the Holiday mansion.It was an inevitable conclusion she'd decide Noelle is the one that needs to be let in on this.
>>741973474that's reality anon
>>741973151It was the best gameplay by far but story wise it was pretty much a nothjngburger. If i had to rate it in order now? 4>5>2>3>1. I like all of em but 5s gameplay carries, 4 was more impactful
>>741973470>127001WHAT THE FUCK
>>741973372Yeah.But besides this being a nuclear controversy bomb (which would be funny) Ralsei would still need to carry his own little fetus ass across town as in the same chapterRalsei is confirmed to be able to appear in places where Kris is not.
>>741972417>Krisknighters are eternally vindicated
>>741972040i want to believe psyop theory but that just raises the question of why the fuck toby would even do that? like congrats you wasted a chapter getting everyone to hate susie and making kris a chud now you have to spend a large chunk of the next chapter undoing that while also managing every other plot point 5 couldn't be asked to resolve. and bad blood built between susie and kris now goes out the window because "oh she was being brainwashed she wouldn't ACTUALLY do that", it clashes with the themes of choosing your own fate if the prophecy can just buck break you into following it at a moments notice. like if your good enough to pretend to be retard your good enough to not ACTUALLY be retarded so why even knee cap your dream game, to spite literally everyone?
>>741973401At least that one would be pretty funny to see, but I doubt Tobert has the balls to do something that might be perceived as "bigoted".
>>741972418Thank ya. I wanna keep her design pretty simple so I can match expressions drawn for the game.
I loaded up my save so I could fight Flowery againits a really fun boss
Am I the only one who thought the Weird Route was activated by not doing anything?Noelle's consciousness saying "nothing ever changes" seemed significant.
>>741973313The third route is merely a guess. Just because some youtuber fag made a video about it doesn't make it true.
>>741972417this is too cool and makes too much sense to be true
>>741973452Mew is good, the issue that people expected every schizo boss to be Jevil or SpamtonSomeone like that wouldn't have fit chapter 5 at all
>>741972282no that'll be ralsei
>>741973316>Susie in a nutshell
>>741970447I really hope toby gets run over someday.
>>741973452She's really good, fun fight and nice tits, she just doesn't have the build up or atmosphere of the other bosses. The jaoanese lyrics and her link to Keis are interesting but she's no Gerson or Spamton
>>741973456based, I will now use your preferred pronouns
>>741973636Especially since the main chapter boss was the knower this time around.
>>741970447
>>741973518In UT, yeah. Entry # 17, if you translate it to English from Wingdings.
>>741973639that wouldn't work though, ralsei is already a femboy. He'd just have different pronouns and wear a dress or somethingfemboy to tranny has no real substance to it
that mew doll is an full body onahole btw
>>741971592foreshadowed
>>741973572People are personifying the prophecy way too hard. Susie spent plenty of time in Chapter 4 obsessing over the prophecy panel about love, and talking about how she's overjoyed at the prospect of having a purpose and meaning in the world. Even if she hates the final prophecy, she's never denounced it. She just believes she can have all the fun she wants while defying fate at the last second.
>>741972065Very cute, I can see the inspiration.
>>741973614I have it on good authority some anon said it and I never verified it that ch5 aborted snowgrave also sets a flag
Chapter 6 can still be good if Susie and Noelle break up.
>>741973401As a latino who wasn't chimping out about Spanish translations, that would be pretty fucking funny.
Fact: Monsters made up Human-Monster war because they were too embarrassed to admit the Knight brought them all to the shelter
>>741973796it can be good if Susie is actually lobotomized/mindraped/rewritten by the prophecy. That means the ship will stay though.
>>741973796i need to ntr susie
Isn't Deltarune ripping off Dark City though?A fake community surrounded by nothing with people underneath going on and changing them at night
>>741973737Why, oh why, did Susie and Ralsei have to open their mouths and say that Kris flirts with everyone? I never wanted to kill them more than I did in that moment. At least let Kris have a Mew gf, let him have fucking anything other than nothing.
I've been thinking about something.People took Noelle's "That's, um, nostalgic" comment at Aqua's knife as just more confirmation that the Aqua was based on who Kris was as a little kid. And that's probably the intended interpretation.But what if. What if that knife wasn't originally Kris'? What if Noelle was the one that owned a knife first?Between the fact that deer actually wanted Snowgrave to be real and enjoyed it even if she was scared, the "you can't even say 'stop' like you used" shit she said at the lake, and many other subtler signs that girl is basically a violent psycho deep down... There's definitely a pattern there and it wouldn't be surprising if it started all the way back then.
>>741973614It's like everyone on /v/ said:You can't unrape the doe.But while both parts of the weird route are clearly going to be fleshed out one is obviously a little more "fulfilled" than the other.
>>741971735>Onion hears it>killed and cooked for the festival>Susie hears it>Unrecognizable the next day>Flowery says there is something evil beneath Hometown>Noelle and Kris go there directly in the Weird RouteI'm noticing...
>>741973572Psyop Theory isn't just "le gaster made you a le lesbian", it's that susie is clearly getting delusional, can't face reality, and is living in the dark fountain, so she's all in on being the prophecy's strongest warrior as it gives her purpose, to the point where she puts the puppet strings on, willingly. Its how we go from "We aren't going to let that happen" to every darkner obsessed with what is now apparently a "Date" - LOVE has to find the girl (Noelle). The writing of Kris + Noelle is more organic because they have history. Susie's relationship feels forced because it literally is. i can post my greentext but i feel like i've spammed enough drafts of it for now
>>741973796Not sure even a messy breakup can fix the vitriol of Chapter 5. The only way to salvage it is the whole brainwashing cope theory, and even then we had to be put through a fake cringe romance for 3+ chapters that ultimately amounted to nothing.
>>741973242We're at the point in the heroes journey where shit hits the fan. The end of Chapter 6 is where we're hitting rock bottom. We then either come back to a bittersweet ending on the main route of Chapter 7 and sweet sweet schizophrenia on the weird route version.
>>741965245Basic player psychology - the player is always going to care about the player character. The soul/Kris is the POV for the story, meaning any detours into other characters have to serve the story. e.g us leaving Kris' POV to see other characters moves the story along in every other chapter, except for Suselle at the lakeYour average player will either feel one of two things>Empathy for their avatar, wanting what's best for him>Annoyance at things that have nothing to do with them or the story yet are mandatoryThe people happy with Suselle are the ones who aggressively ship lesbians, of which this fandom has many, but flip one character's gender and you'd have never had them
>>741973372>>741973553Actually i guess the game already dipped its toes in the subject a bit but yeah. It's theory i find interesting but not necessarily believe is true
>>741973872I don't give a shit about your self-hatred. I have an issue with future chapters being filled to the fucking brim with post-ironic clapbacks at the audience for perceived slights. Though I'm not suprised you are too slow to grasp what's wrong about that, you wetback dipshit.
>>741973893>when you go to the meat factory under the lake (You)r soul and W!Noelle activate all the goner vessels to destroy hometown and the monster world, unleashing the Rum-... roaring
>>741973636Translating miku + her thematically calling out kris + SOVL in line with the other schizos' messages made me like her a lot morefuck bomberman, though
>>741973907no it would still be bad writing>characters are inevitably brainwashed into acting out the prophecy because... meta or somethingprophecy narratives are only kino if characters inevitably fulfill it through their own choices, not if they're all NPC zombies controlled by le gaster or whatever
>>741971409>2398 drowning scene picsNeed to see fanart of that part, link
>>741973967Or just say Susie is getting carried away. Could be a nice parallel with Noelle in WR.
So if Noelle joins the party, will it be a group of 4 or is Ralsei getting replaced?
>>741973961>so she's all in on being the prophecy's strongest warriorI wonder if the last panel she shattered, without a shadow of the doubt, revealed HER as the outlierAnd now she's trying her best to maintain her position of importance
>>741973961>every darkner obsessed with what is now apparently a "Date" You know, none of the Darkners (except Ralsei) have actually expressed an opinion on it as a whole. Do you think we're going to get a New Home-esque speech form the Darkners about the dark twist of the prophecy and how we should be happy for everything to end?
yeah nice job bro, just stay up there and do fucking nothing
>>741974049I don't mind that Pink's schizo factors are more obscure and unrecognized by her because Flowery's already on his own openly acknowledged schizo enlightenment, even down to enforcing his own soul mode on you.
>>741974082I think Susie is getting replaced. She got a new move in Ch. 5 that is basically Noelle's. They are interchangeable atp.
>>741973136https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0sDBFqRRD0>Every day is peaceful. Every day is joyful. Happy days from the time you wake up to the time you go to sleep.>Wishing only for those unchanging, unending happy days, days of boredom repeating forever and ever.>No abnormalities as far as the eyes can see. Life without the tiniest speck of abnormality...>If the world were like that, I'd consider *that* pretty damn abnormal.
>>741974071scroll through twatter and it's like an endless river
>>741974014It's just a game kid, calm down
>>741973940I think her dissociative behavior began when Dess disappeared and the town continued to go on. A bit like Asgore, actually - but her version of "everything is fine" is less obvious.
>>741974130Anon, if you jump on top of Ralsei, that enemy can't hit you. It's a safe spot.
>>741974082there have been some hints towards a 4 member partyalthough imo it's looking more like susie will be the one who gets dropped for being too unstable
>>741972924After this Chapter, I'm actually convinced that Ralsei is more similar to Kris than ever before. The way he behaves without holding himself back seems more akin to Kris' thoughts. That and how Ralsei is just so fascinated by Kris on default.
>>741974082Kris poisons himself with the seeds and gets replaced.
>>741974165Where the fuck did Ralsei wear a dress? What did I miss?
>>741974096It's possible, I still think she's originally a background antagonist like Berdley in whatever the original timeline was before gaster and (You) showed up.
>>741974013>Can't believe to be trueYou already know by playing the game that souls are capable of just scootie-puff Jr.'ing around.If you can come up with some other funny object that is alive that Ralsei can be besides a plant or soul go on and say so smarty-pants.
>>741974196You will never be a human.
>>741973636I think people aren't stressing enough that we got to fight another living Lightner for the first time since chapter 2.Also,>Your body has feelings of its ownYeah like me and Kris have different feelings.
>>741971628>The lake is the fucking barrierHoly shit
>>741974263just cast cure poison in the church, dumbass
>>741974069I agree, however I don't see why Susie would do this much of a turnaround and torment and reject Kris as she did if she's conscious. That she's indulging in the prophecy's good parts, I can believe but the bullying Kris and rewriting their relationship shit serves no apparent purpose.
>>741974096Oh shit! Why didin't I think of that
>>741973961I'm reminded of the ascension monologue of the Second Sanctuary. Susie seems to conflate her identity as the Second Hero/The Girl, and her friendship/current happiness.
>>741974272At the church after the climbing minigame.
>>741972190>got another H*R reference this chapterI'll take it.
>>741974196>immediately proves the pointWhy are third worlders universally retarded?
>You get to chapter 6 dark world>Susie ask you to follow for the deqlong pqrt but to let Noelle, her and Ralsei take care of the rest
>>741974082Kris is getting replaced. Susie vs Gerson already showed that (You) don't need Kris.
>>741974281She was the Dragon defeated in Chapter 1 of "Lord of the Hammer".
no amount of prophecy brainwashing could make THIS moment feel any better
>>741974263Amazing. Little nigga can't even be original and has to copy Chara's shit plan instead.
>>741974189https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=142MSNOw2kQ
>>741972190Literally who are these characters? Tumblr OCs from a fangame?
>>741974378Can you stop putting Qs where As should be? It's annoying as fuckIt's cringeIt defeats the purpose of posting anonymouslyActually scratch that - just kill yourself. Saves time
>>741972893Wait I just realized, youre right.>Ralsei can seemingly sense the presence of The Knightthis fucker is a plant
>Red SOUL by default>Yellow SOUL with Spamton>Green SOUL with Gerson>Purple SOUL with Mew Mew>Orange SOUL with FloweryWill Cyan and Blue get their fights in Ch.6/7? And will blue be relegated to Megalovania #2?
>>741974457Mediocrities from Chapter 2 that everyone forgot about.
>>741974437Isn't it weird how forcing their relationship onto others just makes things worse? Imagine how Carol felt by Rudy's side when Noelle said that shit.
>>741970573>who's going to pick up the white pen of hope and rewrite the story That’s… literally what Gerson and Chapter 4 set her up to do…
>>741974468Where is the ralsei plant in the librarby's lab, Kris's home, flowershop, etc. though?
>>741972827shelter contains the solution to the noita eye puzzle
>JusticeAxe got zero reaction from YellowDeltarune Chapter 3 would have...
>>741974457THIS NIGGERTHIS FUCKING NIGGERTHIS STUPID GOD DAMN FUCKING NIGGERYEah basically
>>741974468>this fucker is a plantThat would make sense, since Flowery is an obvious parallel to him.But what plant can be found in the school closet, the Dreemurr household, the Church and the Flower shop?
>>741974426don't forget the shadow crystals showing original timelines. Susie has glared at you in two places now. Clearly she was the one who got cucked. It's entirely possible there was real chemistry between noelle and her, but now that Susie is a Kris she gets the spotlight>Noelle is still a Noelle btw
>>741974591Grass.
>>741974591The roots underneath Hometown?
>>741974468Ralsei's not a plant because his face sprite is colored while Flowery's isn't.
>>741974558roots under the town, anonyou ever heard of the tree with enough sprouts to become an entire forest by itself? that's ralsei with the forest around hometown
>>741973737giwtwm
>>741974591M-m-m-MOSS?!RALSEI IS MOSS?!?!?!?!??!?!?&?'vnvvncnfkekgkk
>>741957430I'm enjoying it so far. Flowery is funny and Aqua is cute and funny.The platforming gimmick is better than the wallclimbing from the previous chapter.The only thing I didn't like was getting cucked in the beginning so Tobias can force his shitty lesbian fetish.
>>741974457Anon didn't post the flowers.
>>741974558underneath. the entire forest around hometime is a single aspen colony. that's why all the trees are identical, they're clones. ralsei can be everywhere because he IS everywhere. they cut down the trees and built the town but the roots still stretch beneath.
>>741972115So there's no doubt that "the girl" is Susie at this point, right? We all know that Kris isn't getting any pussy, and that silhouette doesn't have horns.
>>741974618Goddamn I forgot to use the shadow crystals to look at shit
>>741974591Black mold?
>>741974649Weren't Flowery eyes also colored? That's why he keeps them closed as much as possible.
>>741974591we were theorizing that ralsei was an accorn in chapter 3+4
I'm keeping my BromideR unused
>>741974437She tried to warn us
>>741974591He's not some regular plant inside the buildings, he's something that's stretched across all of Hometown underground, between the surface of the Light and the depths of the Dark.When a Dark Fountain's opened, it's creating a hole in the layer between, which allows him to access that Dark World.
>>741974591>>741974743true flowey still possible I suppose
>>741974667So... if that's the case, would eating moss count more as fellatio or vore?
>>741974472What was cyan gimmick's again? I forgor
>Suselle happens>It's framed as a bad thing by the gameHuh. Color me surprised, the dog actually came through.
>>741972417Aren't the glass shards broken dreams.
>>741974694>>741974704Eh... roots aren't really inside buildings unless ROOTs in Deltarune is also some ethereal bullshit.
>Happy Town>Meat Factory>Trouble Dingle>Gaster ThemeAre you ready?
>>741974826(Patience). no actual fight confirmed.
>there's no time to wrap everything upwhy can't 6 and 7 each be like 8 hours long?
why are these guys all different colors
>>741974190I don't use shitter, how does it even work.could I search a tag, a keyword?is shit gonna be hidden from me if I don't have shitty blue checkmark?any alternative site that could show me everything, maybe xcancel?
>>741974831>>It's framed as a bad thing by the gameWhat level of copium is this? It's time to admit Toby is just a bad writer.
>>741974437It's only going to get worse if Catti ever finds out that magic is real and Kris and Noelle knew for like a week and neither thought to tell her.
>>741974532>gerson says susie is the one to pick up the white pen and rewrite the story>susie ends up falling right into the prophecy>next chapter has kris being the one picking up a literal white feather that changes everythingkris is the only true hero amongst a party of frauds
am I retarded? how are you supposed to get down there? can't seem to reach. I thought you'd just need to jump using ralsei, but he doesn't change positions fast enough to actually jump from one flower to another
>>741974908all of them are, no secret code
Toby is gonna pull another Digital Circus with the finale
>>741973761And here’s the part that you’ll hate, hahaha
>>741974982make the wind blow the other way
>>741974468
>>741974982get to the end of the room, reverse the wind, then go back down
>>741974982Mysterious wind.
>>741974869>Glitching the game>Finding all the goners/vessels and fusing with Noelle>Unleashing the roaring>???
>>741974982Get to the end of the room first, anon
>>741974826UT Cyan was the blue bullets you don't move as it goes over youUT Orange was the orange bullets you actively move through without stopping, which got it's own SOUL mode in DR
>>741974982Keep going up, there will be a fan that changes wind direction. Just float on ralsei once you turn wind right.
>>741974982Progress a little bit, one of the flower switch the wind
>>741974982there's a plant at the top of the room that causes the wind to blow and push the flowershit it and drop down to the start of the room and make ralsei a platform,
>>741974982I also got autistically stuck there trying to do some trick with the Susie act to reah the bottom. The actual solution was kidna disappointing lol.
>>741974982Go up. There's a thing Susie can hit to blow them.I actually spent like an hour positioning them perfectly and using the slight jump from getting hit by a spinning knife to platform my way over, timing Ralsei perfectly each time so as to not fall. No, there was nothing special for my having done that, I'm just retarded.
>>741974831Lmao. Lol.
>>741974947Tell me when it's framed as a good thing, then.Noelle seemingly doesn't like it when forced to ABORT the drowning.Kris spent the whole chapter angsting about it.Susie is sidelining her friendship with Kris in favor of a romance she didn't care about the day prior.Ralsei doesn't want you to watch Susie when she get advice on dating because it's filled with red flags.
>>741974649>suddenly remember the colours get washed off his eyes in the hot springhold the FUCK up
>>741974947Everything doesn't magically bend around it to insist that everything is better for it having happened.Catti for example.Kris's reaction to every part of it.It happened and it's pushed as hard as it can be but there's oddly no "and so you chuds have no right to complain because there's nothing wrong with it" moment. It's being responded to organically in the universe.
>>741974982I'm glad I wasn't the only retard who kept trying until I realized you had to go upwards to do the wind gimmick
>>741975024why does she have lumbar lordosis
>>741975161That's not Suselle being framed as a bad thing, that's the clear setup Susie is going to fuck this up and make Noelle upset.
>>741975167>>suddenly remember the colours get washed off his eyes in the hot springw-what??
>>741974618>Timeloop shenanigans/secret route make us play through the "awful" alternate timeline where Susie is uninvolved and stays as a lonely bum bully who gets beaten in Chapter 1>Everyone is unanimously happier and Kris and Noelle are together, prophecy chugs along as planned>It is framed as a good thing that this timeline fractured and Susie got to usurp Kris as the protagonist because she gets to be the perfect mary sue girl in this new world with a wholesome lesbian relationship that was never meant to happenSusie is the biggest supporter of this warped timeline because without it she'd still be the edgy loner with no friends. Too bad we're sealing her "home" and correcting her timeline to set things right. This will be framed as a monstrous decision btw.
>>741974950at least that'll feel like a genuinely reasonable conflict between friends who're wanting to keep her safe, the festival moment is genuinely just an unnecessary massive FUCK YOU to catti when she's done nothing to deserve it
>>741974926>xcancelIt doesn't show nsfw posts unless you use a direct link. There's also nitter but I haven't really used that one so
>>741975024>here’s the part that you’ll hate, hahaha>implying
>>741975237She just has a big shelf.
>>741975251when he takes his glasses off he looks like his regular bimbo selfbut after rubbing his eyes they look different, and then he puts his glasses back on
>>741975237>>741975285I was thinking "nah she just has a big ass" but her tail is jutting out of the very end of it.Artist doesn't know a tail is part of your spine and not just a random thing on your butt.
Moss is everywhere. Ralsei is moss.
>>74197315199% of the reviews are FIVE STARTS WTF ARE THE HATERS TALKING ABOUT and the 1% "haters" are people giving it four stars. So sadly you are right.
>>741974982I went to the vines at the start of the room and just went as far to the edge of Ralsei as possible before switching him to the next flower and jumping at the same time I had no clue there was a wind thing til I saw these replies
>>741975267>It doesn't show nsfw postsNo that's a bug, if it doesn't show nsfw stuff you just need to reload until it does
>>741975258> just an unnecessary massive FUCK YOU to catti when she's done nothing to deserve itCatti has no reason to be this possessive. If she's that upset over two single people getting together that's her problem.
>>741971592>>741973739hee hee hoo hoo
>>741974982I did it manually.ACT first, then jump. There's like half a second before Ralsei disappears under you, you can time it that way.
>>741975309I assumed that was just the color of the water being reflected by the room's light
>>741974926If you make your algorithm show you deltarune stuff, you'd just have to browse your 'For you' tab, but since you don't use Xitter, you can just search deltarune outright and you can sort by likes, sort to only show pictures, etc.Don't need a checkmark. Depending on your country, you might not get shown porn if your age isn't verified.
>>741975345If Ralsei is already everywhere, why does he take so much time to appear at the start of each Dark World?Actually, fuck that - why is he taking so long to join us in the Second Sanctuary? He's supposedly in the very same room.
I don't get how people can hate on chapter 5 but suck chapter 4's dick
>>741975161The problem with Undertale fans is that you're all severely autistic. It's not framed as a bad thing. Noelle is simply overcorrecting in the WR saying her whole life is trash because she's a little bit too coward and uptight and decides to give away her money and even do something that is guaranteed to get her killed much like a retard who thinks acting ruthlessly is going to fix their shitty life.
>>741972478>GRASS*ROOTSThat's why he's present in every dark world, the roots are growing all under hometown
>>741975391sure man, and i bet you think kris deserves everything in this chapter too
Move here >>741962115
>>741975391>Kris, why aren't we friends anymore? We played a lot together as kids, and...>FUCK OFF YOU FAT WHORE YOU ARE NEVER GETTING YOUR CDS BACK
>>741975251hmm maybe not since the underneaths are still pink
>>741971409>make path diverging from main game in the most secretive and "obscure" way>people blow it out of proportions overshadowing the main pathWe've seen it with Ranni the Bitch
>>741970503all copies are monochrome
>>741975272>Toriel's ass Dark World
>>741973098man, her nuts must be huge.
>>741972005we're going to get live-a-live'dkris is oersted and will awaken the demon that comes when you call its name
>>741974437Between this and the ending scene, Chapter 5 had really sour gutpunches in the Light World.
>>741975473In what fucking way are 4 and 5 even similar?
>>741975452He was too busy trying to make sure more prophecy walls were smashed in the second sanctuary.
>>741974995There is a secret code, I don't remember what it was, I just hit stuff randomly. I got $20 FP or something.
>>741973043it's like how niggers see a clean chalkboard then smear whatever they want on it just because it was clean before, everyone gotta degrade what's clean
I don't give a fuck about Noelle , Susie, or even Kris. I'm praying I can get my boy some pussy.
>>741975535decided to compare>his eyes are almost completely different when he gets water in themthis niggas either hiding something or hes fruity as fuck>>741975641>yfw Kris says your name
>>741974437This scene kind of pissed me off, it's like they introduced Catti again just to humiliate her because...fuck Catti I guess for not liking Susie? Did they just forget Susie has barely done anything to make herself seem like less of a menace to her classmates?
>>741975823Catty is so sweet I love her.
>>741975690He's shit at his job.Every problem of this chapter stems from the Second Sanctuary spamming how the Girl finds love and trying to reveal the......Was the Second Sanctuary trying to mindbreak Susie?
>>741975272Built for unbirthing fallen humans.
>>741975864>this niggas either hiding something or hes fruity as fuck>eitherI'd say it's both at the same time.
>>741975901Susie was desperate to find out where she was in the prophecy and the sanctuary reflects that.
>>741969574>>741969812My schizo theory is that Susie was originally the girl and Noelle the second hero, but to prevent the prophecy from happening Kris (and Ralsei) sort of forced Susie into the second hero role insteadThis is why the both of them are still hiding shit from Susie, talking while we have our eyes closed and she's away. They need her to fully believe she's one of the heroes.This is also why Kris is so mad at (you) in the weird route, because you are very much forcing the prophecy back into place. Whatever the fuck you did that contaminated Noelle, it's the "hope" crossed on her heart of the prophecy
>>741975336but can it track down hands?
