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>>741962115
>mawaru penguindrum in 2026
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bro undertale and deltarune fucking sucks, the ending is not going to be good
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>>741975434
youre a transphobe
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The Knight is so hot, bros...
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>>741962115
Remember that you're a bad person for doing this route.
Return to the Suselle route please and thank you.
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???
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>>741975640
You will have to dig my bones up from the bottom of the lake before I go back there
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>>741975637
so true bestie
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>>741962115
What did she see on the other side at the end there?
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>>741975707
Kris and Noelle were the ones in LOVE in the original timeline. The bouquet scene never had susie in it. She was cuck (Pic related)
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>happy town
>Meat Factory
>Trouble Dingle
>Gaster Theme
So happy town is the weird route hometown where you glitch with Noelle. What are the others?
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>>741975901
It gave her exactly what she wanted.
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>>741975637
he is quite charming
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did we figure out how to do bside yet
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>>741975905
>original timeline
Original timeline? There is original timeline?
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>>741975948
>This is also why Kris is so mad at (you) in the weird route, because you are very much forcing the prophecy back into place.
How many times will you need to be shown the WR isn't the prophecy
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>Ralsei wears mascara
>Ralsei has FUCKING CROWS FEET
Why is he a fucking old twink.
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>>741976045
B side is how the weird route is referenced in the game's file
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>>741976051
He's talking about the timeline seen inside the Shadow Crystal, which is presumably what was supposed to happen.
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Noelle 'bury me in a Y shaped coffin' Holiday
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>>741976045
B-side is the weird route anon-chama-sama.
You already know how to do it.
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>>741976095
hopping and bouncing her way to shank your ass
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>>741976051
The timeline where Dess isn't a glitched out actor. Where Susie and Kris never become friends.
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>>741975541
and that's a good thing
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>>741976080
Ralsei is a tranny. By the end of the story he will become a woman.
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>>741976051
>The prophecy of DELTA RUNE never changes
>The ending of DELTARUNE never changes
>But the characters can
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SAY IT, YOU MOSS-CHEWING SYPHILITIC HUMAN!!! FUCKING SAY IT!!!!
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>>741976080
He actually looks cuter without make up, wtf.
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>>741976213
Irrelevant unless he's somehow chosen to be The Girl because of his love for Kris.
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>>741976080
Why is Toby obsessed with gay stuff?
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>>741976213
Yeah but I think the more pertinent part is that the reason he's wearing makeup is to look less old.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xiw9hGVNmMQ
diner date with the knight (who looks suspiciously doelike in light world form) when?
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Repostan because it's more relevant in this thread
>Timeloop shenanigans/secret route make us play through the "awful" alternate timeline where Susie is uninvolved and stays as a lonely bum bully who gets beaten in Chapter 1
>Everyone is unanimously happier and Kris and Noelle are together, prophecy chugs along as planned
>It is framed as a good thing that this timeline fractured and Susie got to usurp Kris as the protagonist because she gets to be the perfect mary sue girl in this new world with a wholesome lesbian relationship that was never meant to happen
Susie is the biggest supporter of this warped timeline because without it she'd still be the edgy loner with no friends. Too bad we're sealing her "home" and correcting her timeline to set things right. This will be framed as a monstrous decision btw.
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>>741976328
Getting the *FLIRT option in a 1v1 with the Knight would lead to Kris instantly turning the sword on himself and doing -9999 damage.
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>>741975867
Now I think about it every Catti scene has been a humiliation of some kind that escalates each chapter.

ch1 - she's a bit embarrassed about her uniform
ch2 - her family are in the diner and making her feel embarrassed
ch4 - susie tells her she's going to noelle's house and she's visibly upset
ch5 - susie tells her she and noelle are now a thing and she runs away crying

Other characters have their ups and downs but Catti so far has only gotten downs. It's starting to feel mean spirited.
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>>741976403
>*The Knight smirk-
>GAME OVER
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>>741976403
>-9999 damage
>-
>stabs himself so good that it heals ya instead
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I've entered the rewrite-fanfic part of my chapter 5 grief phase. I'm gonna torment you with mine

>Flowery fight
>Flowery and the other flowers pull themselves back up
>As does Kris' gang
>They all group up for one more tired strike
>And the Knight knocks them all down in one swoop
>Everyone is down for the count, blind in their conflict to the real enemy
>Before any more damage can be done, Asgore arrives
>Knight attacks
>Asgore pushes him back
>Susie is outright astonished at the power of Kris' dad
>Knight doesn't waste time and takes Kris hostage, sword to his throat
>Asgore has to choose: the vengeance he promised, or the son he raised
>Chooses his son without hesitation
>Gives his farewells: thanks Flowery for helping him see where he'd gone wrong with Toriel, thanks Susie for being Kris' friend, and praises how proud he is of Kris
>Throws aside his trident and the Knight downs him before escaping with him
>The six flowers rush after him in their determination. They fight but lose
>Flowery gets his second wind and protects them. His power-of-friendship is strong enough to save the other flowers but not himself
>Resume as canon

I just wanted the knight's arrival to feel less random and for Asgore to actually do a bit more
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>>741976328
Why is Jax here?
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>>741976429
I hope she appears in a dark world so she can give a piece of her mind to Susie
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>>741976257
>PROCEED
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>>741976429
it reminds me of a certain children's book author who'd make every girl who disliked her self-insert get embarrassed and fucked over as much as possible, even when they haven't even done anything wrong half the time besides be popular or be sporty
yes i'm talking about harry potter
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>Every day is peaceful. Every day is joyful. Happy days from the time you wake up to the time you go to sleep.
>Wishing only for those unchanging, unending happy days, days of boredom repeating forever and ever.
>No abnormalities as far as the eyes can see. Life without the tiniest speck of abnormality...
>If the world were like that, I'd consider *that* pretty damn abnormal.
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>>741976371
would this timeline be the one where Dess wouldn't have ended up as code spaghetti, hence why Susie is uninvolved (no dark world ever show up for her to go past her bully ways in chapter 1) and it relates to the knight
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>>741976371
Good thing I saved her in my timeline, WAITing is a small price to pay.
No one else matters.
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>>741976429
Unfortunately if you consider it from an objective storytelling standpoint, Catti needs to be sacrificed like this for a purpose.
If it was just the player and Kris responding to it, then you would feel entirely alone. There would be absolutely nothing in the way of Susie or Noelle. People could go "well that's just YOUR problem cuck" and laugh at anyone complaining about it.
But Catti gives you a wider perspective of it. Someone else in town doesn't like Susie and doesn't want them getting together.
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>>741976371
Why is everyone acting like we're going to redo the game with Noelle? Am I missing some info?
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>>741976403
>-9999 damage
damn kris are you that excited?
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>DR2x2
>Nagito and Hajime check the beach
>A random kid and a humanoid doe wash ashore, their bodies limp
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I can't make sense of what Kris's masterplan is meant to be. He clearly engineered Susie to be the second hero, who is destined to suffer a tragedy. He clearly likes Susie, so why the hell would he do that?
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>>741976779
The only other option for the Second Hero is his childhood friend.
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>>741976678
Every single equippable item in the entire game has text for Noelle. Every single one.
Including items that are just in the files and inaccessible.
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>>741976779
replay ch1. Remember how king gets upset when lancer “gets attached” to Susie? Same thing happened with Kris. She was just supposed to be a sacrifice but he fell in love with her
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>>741976836
why not sacrifice the fat bitch catti though
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>>741976698
>Resurgence of the KRIS WHERE THE FUCK ARE WE meme except it's just Noelle and Kris fucking dead in every other universe
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So how are we all feeling on Chapter 5 now? Does canon Suselle ruin the game for you?
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>>741976678
well i don't know if this is what people are building it off of, but the game has been consistently adding noelle flavor text to every time even though she hasn't been around since Ch2, and in this chapter specifically she even got a new title and weapon (that you can't get)
it almost seems like the code has been preemptively set up for noelle to be around for all the chapters
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Do you guys think Dess dead and we are searching for corpse? Or she is stuck in limbo?
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It's clear as day that, by the end of the normal route, we find out that the only way to break the cycle was for Noelle to get stronger. We're not meant to experience the Weird Route yet, it's supposed to happen after we beat the game once.
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>>741976868
I actually think that has to be it. At the start of chapter 1 Susie almost chewed his face off. Kris must have legitimately hated Susie, and only grew to love her over time. By that point it was too late to back out.
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>>741976930
It's pretty bad, yeah. It's not even the start of chapter 5's problems, but it being done badly makes it really painful
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>>741976930
It was quite obnoxious but I was able to ignore it for the most part. To me it seems to be setup for something good later, if Toby doesn't cuck out
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>>741976779
He wasn't expecting to actually be friends with her. Ralsei was a minion at best.
This is why the DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO hurts him so much now.
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>>741976328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uJh6Famdgo
Ladies and Gentlemen ,"Dess's Dance"
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>>741976902
Before chapter 1 Catti was Kris's best friend.
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>>741976930
I mean, if I cared it would've ruined the game for me in chapter 1, because that's when Suselle became canon.
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>>741976902
Too many chase sequences in the game she wouldn't be able to keep up.
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>>741976429
>ch5 - susie tells her she and noelle are now a thing and she runs away crying
Is this after the dark world part? I haven't finished the chapter yet and this didn't happen in my game.
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>>741976957
dess used the dark world as escapism to fuck off from the real world and lost herself and became the royal knight
susie is about to do the same thing and become another night
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>It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0A_S-HHix0
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She a thirsty girl.
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>>741976698
>Umineko
>The cousins head down to the beach
>Some random kid and anthropomorphic doe wash ashore
>There's a 19th (and 20th) suspect X on the island now
>...if they actually wake up
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>>741976868
>Susie was supposed to die to King's spade bullets in Chapter 1
>Kris' first independent action from the player is stepping in front of her and shielding her
horey shet
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>>741976930
It's "delusional Susie" with "fake Noelle", I couldn't care less. That romance won't survive the late chapters.
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>>741977067
I meant cattY sorry
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>yfw next chapter Susie asks Kris to teach her piano so she can play for Noelle
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>>741976868
>She was just supposed to be a sacrifice but he fell in love with her
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>>741976930
All Toby had to do was take the VN route
>Build Krusie points through the game
>Krusie at the lake
>Kriselle points at the game
>Kriselle at the lake
>Don't score high with either
>Suselle at the lake

>>741977135
I wanna believe you but the prophecy cope theory is indistinguishable from bad writing
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>>741977083
Did you go to the church during the festival?
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>>741975812
her futa cock
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>>741976937
Isn't it just for the sixth chapter where she's coming to Castle Town?
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>>741976584
Where are those lines from??
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>>741977176
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>>741977187
>prophecy cope theory
C'mon. There are obvious parallels between Asgore and Susie this chapter, even excluding the doors scene.
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Through the darkness of future past
The magician longs to see
One chants out
Between two worlds
Fire Walk With Me
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>>741977184
You think I’m joking? This whole scene is foreshadowing for future events
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Deltarune is an NTR game. Toby has been confirmed to have an NTR fetish.

https://dic.pixiv.net/a/バウムクーヘンエンド
>An ending in which one of two close characters—who seemed destined to end up together—instead winds up with a completely different partner.
>This term refers to a narrative outcome where one member of a pair—who seemed destined to end up together and were widely recognized as close—instead winds up with someone else. It is also sometimes written as "Baumkuchen End" (extending the second vowel sound).
>There is a specific reason for the name "Baumkuchen." It describes a scenario involving a very close pair—the kind of duo people would comment on by saying, "They're really close," or "Are they dating?"—where one marries someone else. The other is asked to give a speech at the wedding reception, which they handle tactfully and even humorously, only to return home and eat the wedding favor—a Baumkuchen cake—all alone.
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>>741976930
I don't care about Suselle or ships in general. I do care about Susie being lobotomized though and if this isn't setup this is really really bad. The fact that it is (allegedly) all setup with no actual plot progression and just more VAGUEPOSTING and more HINTING at things 70% into the game is the real problem I have with it.
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>>741977213
could be, hell it could just be that toby keeps thinking about putting her in a chapter but doesn't
the only thing that we know for sure is that it isn't just down to avoiding crashes, because the chapter gimmicks aren't coded to work with her yet - in Ch5 alone if you go to a sidescroller section with her it crashes
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>Susie admits the situation's gotten too grim
>We need help
>Goes for Noelle
>Meanwhile Berdly, who cares, can hold his own against the team 3v1 and is perfectly healthy in my pacifist Chapter 2 run, is right there
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>>741975640
>wanting noelle to end up a trapped bored housewife supporting a homeless retarded dinosaur

you must not like her very much
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>>741974957
Okay what the fuck is Tobingles doing here?
Susie got blatantly set up to subvert the prophecy somehow and it's just... not happening?
I think this is the first time in this entire game where my confusion on a subject is outweighing wondering.
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>>741977345
>I don't care about Suselle or ships in general. I do care about Susie being lobotomized though and if this isn't setup this is really really bad. The fact that it is (allegedly) all setup with no actual plot progression and just more VAGUEPOSTING and more HINTING at things 70% into the game is the real problem I have with it.
fucking THIS
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>>741977206
Yes. I must have picked a different option. I did everything in my power to sabotage Suselle, including refusing to acknowledge it.
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>>741977142
Why would you kill one of the few genuinely kindhearted people in Hometown
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>>741977379
sorry but berdly might actually try and take away their third whee-DEAR FRIEND kris, and we can't be having that
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>>741977285
They're not obvious to me, care to spell it out for all the would-be ragebaiters here?
>>741977345
Preach
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>>741977379
Susie was always one for emotional reasoning.
>The Legend wants me to be hero? Fat chance!
>Okay being a hero is badass I'm in!
>OH FUCK I'M GETTING LAID IN THE LEGEND THIS IS SO COOL
>This panel sucks. You think the prophecy defines me or something?
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Apologize to Tenna right fucking now
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>>741975640
noelle is unironically happier this way, it allows her to embrace her inner rapist nature
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>give susie and ralsei new spells (Scythemare and Healsong? I don't remember)
>They are buttfucking useless
why did toby do this
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>>741977531
TENNA KEEPS WINNING
>t. went to save this as TENNA KEEPS WINNING.jpg and already had it
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>>741976080
trees can get pretty old, you know.
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Reminder that Snowgrave didn't mindbreak Noelle, she was able to recover after that. However, this actually broke her.
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>>741977624
>broke her
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>>741977330
Toby is a cuck...
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>>741977240
The game Toby is referencing with that Dogcheck.
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>>741977623
If he's actually the entire fucking aspen forest then yeah. He'd be the oldest thing in the game.
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>>741977135
Holy cope lmao.
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>>741977586
scythemare's useful for when certain ACTs make every enemy tired - it's practically tailored for the floradinn ralsei ACT
revivesong's just a better way of reviving characters if you've got the spare TP for it - arguably not that useful just because the bosses you'd actually want to use it on are likely to have some TP gimmick that keeps you from using it
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>>741977345
who says we are 70% through the game? if chapter 4 end is the halfway point, we still have a ton left to do
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>>741977624
>Broke
Noelle was already broken.
She has severe disassociation and depression.
She's just going through the motions as if she isn't even a real person. Looking at her own life through a glass shard.
Her true self underneath a mask of pure uncaring lack of humanity is just a little crazy.
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>>741977758
>Ralsei is a really really old man who wears makeup so he can hang out with two teenagers
Didn't expect that to ever be a plausible theory
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>>741977468
Imagine being so fat you see a singer and think of food
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>>741977438
My only theory is that whatever Susie saw in that one panel fucked with her really bad
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Took out the tail.
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>>741977927
Nice, very nice. Very huge ass.
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>>741977852
>People depict ralsei as femboy
>He actually is old fag
Actual cutting edge of deltarune theories
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>>741977927
Slut
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>>741977871
And yet fat catto is still be better than 99% of the alternatives in that hell town
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The best of all worlds: Noelle is used up. Susie is used up. Ralsei is used up. Kris is used up.
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>>741978023
This but it's because I gaped them out with my giant schlonger.
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>subtle dunkey reference
Tricky Tony strikes again
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>>741978023
(You) will keep drowing people in the lake untill morale improves
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>>741976930
It's not good, but I can ignore it pretty easily and speed along to the dark world which is the best one so far.
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>>741977514
People said it better than me in previous threads but-
>Castle Town & Flower Kingdom both set up as ideal homes
>Asgore does everything with his family/Toriel in mind, Susie keep bringing up Noelle
>Reverse character arcs - Asgore stop being delusional, Susie embrace the delusion
>Reverse mindset too - Asgore is pretending to be the King to get to the truth, Susie is trying her hardest to keep being the Hero to avoid facing the truth
>Both shut Kris out of their respective Dark World, almost 1:1 scenes
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>>741977624
Fools!
Weird route didn't break her, it saved her. Anyone who didn't understand her desire to break free from "Noelle just does Noelle things" is pathetic. You're all falling for the "it's the wrong/bad/evil route" narrative.
What TRULY breaks her is giving up on her at the lake. Right as she's about to finally get what she wants you rip her wings out and she falls back down from the highest heights!
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Have you guys rewatched Skies Forever Blue yet? Asking for no particular reason at all.
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>>741976779
>He clearly engineered Susie to be the second hero
Did he? Isn't the sole reason Susie is the second hero the fact that she stole the chalk during the first chapter? How was this the doing of Kris or the Knight?
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>>741978105
the more i sit with it, the more i come around to the writing. Just like Flower Man, you start off hating him but come to appreciate it
assuming the cope theory is real
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>>741977092
>dess used the dark world as escapism to fuck off from the real world and lost herself and became the royal knight
So Dess left one day and got lost in dark world?
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>>741977624
Noelle wasn't broken because Kris went off-screen to do damage control during Chapter 3. Noelle says that quite literally that he took the Thorn out and apologized to her.
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>>741978175
Yes, w-
>second run has the childhood friend being more assertive and sequence breaking
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>>741977623
>>741977758
My only problem with the whole Plantner-Ralsei thing is that the hometown trees don't look like aspens.
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>>741977624
It woke her up.
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>no Noelle reverse rape femdom weird route porn yet
The fuck are the porn artists doing?
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>>741978175
>thought the "loop" part of it was meant to be foreshadowing noelle and kris being the first heroes and then a loop happened and now it's susie and kris
>it's actually noelle in both cases, she's just Weird™ in the second loop
if noelle suddenly stops being able to equip ribbons at some point (esp. in weird route ch7) i'm gonna shit my pants
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>>741962115
So what're the changes with snowgrave this chapter? Can you cuck Susie in any satisfactory way? I hate that we didn't even get to find out the king and queen this chapter.

Also Aqu-tan my wife is super cute and funny, best character in the chapter easily
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>>741977528
Not anymore she's not. Toby is just that oblivious to how badly she's blundered
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>>741978250
They don't really look like any real life tree either, this isn't really important
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>>741978213
I mean, we can always pretend everything is coincidental and say it's bad writing all the way down.
It's just getting hard the more you think about it.
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>>741976930
>Does canon Suselle ruin the game for you?
Canon Suselle was okay.
Canon Suselle where Kris has an unrequired crush on Susie that he never vocalises, despite me giving him 50 opportunities with my choices?

That is not cool. That is not fuego. That is aggravating as fuck.
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>>741978240
*deep concern*
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>>741978092
>town feels a lil' empty today, Kris.
>...
>you, uh, seem more clean than usual
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>>741977289
Chants is a pun on Chance because tricky david likes jokes.
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>>741978250
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>>741978383
You think C5 Susie isn't motivated by emotional reasoning?
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I really hope after all we’ve been through in the dark world this isn’t building up to a general “escapism bad” message. I don’t think Tony would do that. But the cliffhanger of Susie living in the dark world in combination with Asgore’s plight this chapter has me a bit concerned
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>>741978348
Oh, you cuck Susie alright. She can't get her hands on Noelle. In fact, no one can
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>>741978413
unrequited*
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>>741977330
>every relationship not with me is NTR

are you retarded?

>common foods like cake actually means cuckoldry

holy shit yes you are
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>>741978086
Fuck. Fucking kek.
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>the only secret boss mentioned or referenced in every chapter
>friends with the man who you're giving all the Shadow Crystals to
>still in your inventory but unlike Spamton he's aware the world is a game and willingly stopped fighting instead of having some grand plan that failed
Do you smell that, friends? It smells like chaos!
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>>741978453
This is hat Ralsei's silouhette doe
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>>741978395
Root-colony trees aren't very common, it would be kinda an asspull.

>>741978453
It looks like a profile shot of him. Wearing the hat. Which he dislikes.
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>>741978240
>>741978175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgcjGojRKk
You might be onto something.
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>>741978482
Yes, because otherwise she might have spared a thought for Kris' emotions

>>741978525
Yeah, Jevil's pretty great. It'd be good to hear from him once or twice
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>>741977927
Fallen Shota Unbirthing Unit
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It's more overtly stated in chapter 5, but the thing you have to realize about Noelle is that she desperately craves for someone to break her out of her shell. That's why she dates a rebel like Susie, and why she pivots to psycho!Kris on the Weird Route.
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>>741978401
i can't let myself get deluded and get my hopes just for chapter 6 to be just another nothingburger.

no matter how much i believe it, it's still just cope.
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>>741978525
>Final schizoboss is a Seam/Jevil tag-team
I would clap like a soilord
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>>741978576
That'd be logical, anon.
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When I was a child, I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look, but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown, the dream is gone
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LMAO
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>>741978348
play weird route for yourself
it won't take long, trust me
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>>741977982
Seriously
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>>741978576
I'm certain that he'll at least chime in once Seam has all the crystals or does something with them
>>741978604
Kino
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>>741978681
>missing the toast
typical.
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>Still catatonic

Toby is so fucking based. I guess this is what happens when you die in the dark world, braindeath instead of turning into dust.
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>"ominous hell" and "ominous hell super" plays the longer you sink into the lake
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I don't know how they could fit it in, but I feel like we're being set up for a "Final Dark World" being Castle Town, with Susie and possibly Ralsei resisting us as we try to go and close the Pure Fountain.

It will structurally match past Dark Worlds, us moving towards a castle with a tyrant ruling it trying to stop us from closing their fountain. But here, SUSIE is the tyrant. The "Dragon" in the castle. And the world will be a mishmash of all our previous adventures with all the previous recruits included.
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>>741978569
If it actually ends up like this it would be galactic giga kino
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I WAS SO CERTAIN I WAS RIGHT ABOUT RUDY BEING THE KNIGHT, ALMOST EVERYTHING LINES UP PERFECTLY
BUT THERES SO MUCH UNEXPLAINED SHIT
WHY DID IT WEAP? WHY DID THE WEAPON SHIFT FROM A BAT TO A BLADE? WHY DOES IT DO KRIS'S POSES?
Wait
>Whose dream? Susie's Dream? Ralsei's Dream? Noelle's Dream? Kris' Dream? ... You left it there.
Holy shit. That's it. I figured it's true nature. The Knight is a Shadow Crystal embroiled in the deepest dark. The shells says it washed up ashore, someone picked it up, likely Rudy, he got infected by the deepest dark and is likely "dying" as a consequence
All The Knight knows is how to imitate, the form changes, the poses, the looks, it doesn't resemble one of the Titans from the Ralsei tale by chance.
It's mimicking everyone on purpose. It's unstable as a result.
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>>741978525
Still the best 2018
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>>741978681
Women will have bodies like these and not even share them with random strangers.
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>deltarune has a bunch of umineko inspirations
>first time players often say that characters in chapter 5 of umineko are acting out of character
>when you understand the truth, you see it was done for a reason
You guys should have more faith in Toby. There will be an 8th episode btw.
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>>741978506
Anon, are you pretending you can't read or something?
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>>741978401
I really wish this isn't the case but the inverse possibility still exists... Toby IS a spiteful little bitch of a yurifag after all. Maybe he really fumbled the bag.
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>>741978525
Literally the least irrelevant entity in the entire game. Basic enemies from chapter 1 stuck around and got a line or two each chapter.
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>>741978792
Sounds kino
Do you think that'd be chapter 7 with 6 being the shelter?
Or is there gonna be 8 since 4 had the "halfway mark" mention
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>>741977683
She's stronger now. Strong enough to clip through walls
And lake floors
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>>741978792
>get to ralsei's castle
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjCGHO0oHlw starts playing
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>>741978320
Pretty much all the rape porn was drawn by masochistic female and dommish male artists and we had to wait 3+ days for it (we're not something like Pokemon where there's a legion of coomers ready to speeddraw anything within 30min of reveal). Now with Noelle's recharacterization as a yandere she'll need a completely separate group of artists to pick up the slack. Also you'll have a smaller almost male-exclusive pool to work with since yandere self-inserting is not really something women do.
Give them one more day, then start bugging people on /adhg/ or /sdg/ or something.
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Normal anons should stop with the shitposting for a while, just like in chapter 4, unironic cucks are starting to come to these threads like flies.
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>>741978596
>scared of hoping
I get it, truly, but at the same time...Do you really want to stay so despondent? Just a small shift of perspective, Anon.
Even if the ending remains the same, at least the journey would remain a good memory.

>>741978872
True, but you can't let the possibilty stop you from trying.
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>>741966503
Oh deer of the lake, share me your wisdom.
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>Seam is the only Darkner shopkeeper who doesn't have an overworld sprite
>Keeper of the shadow crystals
>Jevil's friend
>Court MAGICIAN
He's the final schizoboss. Not much of a theory, I know.
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>>741978906
I don't know, that's why I said I don't know how they'd fit it in.

We 100% are doing Shelter in Chapter 7, cause "7 Side-B" seems to be under the lake, probably connected to the Shelter world.
So the only place it could fit would be either 6 or in a possible 8th chapter which seems very unlikely.
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>>741978964
>we're not something like Pokemon where there's a legion of coomers ready to speeddraw anything within 30min of reveal
I dunno I've seen some very speedy fluffy $@%#-ing tails.
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>>741979023
No one can choose who they are in this world. so let's go to the next world.
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>>741978792
I think Chapter 6 is Castle Town while the depths are Chapter 7.
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>>741978864
Wow, he has been foreshadowing this reference for a while since there's been cakes in all episodes. Keep spamming it, bro.
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>>741978320
it's taking a while for people to digest that moldesster was true, just about the wrong holiday
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>>741979051
>Court MAGICIAN
What does this imply?
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>>741978898
And yet he's consistently referenced in every single chapter despite there being no real reason to do so.
You don't find that to be the least bit interesting in the game that's filled with foreshadowing and hints of future events?
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>>741975640
Can't, save is poisoned now.
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>>741979064
The Lake is a bit far from the Shelter, even though both are underground.
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>>741978838
>deltarune has a bunch of umineko inspirations
Nigga what
Umitrannies are seriously deranged
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>>741978906
i think that refers to 4 being the chapter where you can divide the whole thing. you know 123 4 567
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>>741978681
Did that slut even take a shower? I'd bet she's still dripping with cum. Eww.
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>>741979175
everything is umineko
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>>741978792
Nah CHapter 7 is whatever is beneath the lake unless the weird route completely branches out from the main one.
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>>741979142
Virgin past 30, same as his butt buddy
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>>741978864
You need to have your eyes closed to actually believe Chapter 5 isn't Toby indulging in his NTR bullshit.
>Toby Fox's first girlfriend dyked out after dumping him
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>>741975640
The normal route is either a timeloop or a bad ending. There is no point continuing down that road, except for context.
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>>741979051
Just pointing out, every schizo but Jevil and the Knight himself have been shopkeepers.
There's a big chance even that Ramb was meant to be the schizo, he knew too much and he led Kris down to the Mantle. It wasn't by coincidence.
So if that was the case, then the schizo of Chapter 1 was not actually Jevil, but Seam, most likely.
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>>741979151
just delete the file_5b in your save folder, this will not make gaster mad I promise.
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>>741978864
>Baumkuchen is one of the most popular cakes in Japan,[9] where it is called baumukūhen (バウムクーヘン).

you're retarded. this is like seeing an apple in the game and thinking it's a garden of eden reference

>It is a popular return present in Japan for wedding guests because of its ring shape.[10] The shape is connected to tree rings, which symbolises longevity and prosperity in Japan.[11]
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>>741979096
That's because of the overlap. Feralfags are really dedicated to their craft.
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>>741979240
...how are they butt buddies if they are both virgins???????
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>>741978838
Umineko was fucking horrible after ch4 and had a shit ending so I really hope you're wrong about that
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>>741979141
>yfw Dess used to hit Kris with the bat because she knew how dangerous Noelle was and wanted to discourage Kris from setting her off
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>>741979130
You're a fucking moron. Read the Flavor text. He knew what he was doing. That's a fucking direct reference.
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>>741979175
>he thinks toby isn't uminekopilled
catch this, anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ervvPBJ1f1g
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>>741978998
fuck it, i'm all in on hopium. it's a combination of the prophecy putting susie in the driver's seat and her choosing delusion over reality. The yuri is forced because the game has to write in an fake romance to replace Kris and Noelle's relationship.
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>>741975639
gaster-sama... i'm sorry for doubting you
the thread died moments before i could post this
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How did Kris make a deal with Seth for the flower before the world was even opened? He couldn't have opened and sealed a Fountain in advance since none of the other flowers recognized him
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>>741978792
There is the locked classroom on the other side of the closet we never got.

What if the idea is:
>We go to Castle Town through the Closet with Noelle
>Something bad goes down leading to Susie kicking us out and locking herself in the closet
>We then go into the classroom on the left of the closet and open a Fountain there so we can open the door leading to the closet and get back in
>But now the closet is a full Dark World
>Joined by Ralsei and Noelle as we quest to stop Susie
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oh FUCK No
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>>741979252
>she looks like she's getting fucked behind the door

whoever made this image is absolutely obsessed with ntr and jacks off to it daily. they probably thinking the checker scanning other people's items at grocery store is an ntr reference
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Truman show ripoff
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>>741979364
There we go. Enjoy the ride, my friend.
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>>741979252
It's so over
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>>741979271
Susie has the world stuck in a time loop and it can only end if Noelle and Kris jump in the lake like sky’s forever blue
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>>741979309
Keep in mind that one of them can do anything
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Did I miss why Seth is not named Purple
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>>741979423
>whoever made this image is absolutely obsessed with ntr
Toby?
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>>741979504
to intelligent to be named after a color
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>>741979504
you have at most 80 iq
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>>741979051
he's both.
He will fight you for the Pure crystal, and also have C5s Shadow crystal for 7b
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>>741978213
Why are people forcing this meme that Flowery can beat the Knight? He pulled some looney toons ass shit and then died ten seconds later like a loser. He's nothing.
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>>741979504
reference to some gay snes jrpg
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>>741979504
something of gaia refference.
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>>741978792
>Every darkner you RECRUITed is one more enemy you have to fight on your way to the castle
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Just found the NASTIEST Kriselle fanart conceivable
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>>741979306
I guess that makes sense.
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>manga is kino
>game adaptation is trash
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>>741979504
because of that one anon
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>>741979423
Is that you?
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Would it be easier for you to swallow getting NTRd by a man or by another woman?
Personally I prefer the latter as it reflects less as a failing as a man on my part. She just prefers the company of the fairer sex and... I can understand that!
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>>741979541
KRIS KRIS PLEASE KRIS I'M DETERMINED TO PUT SUSIE IN HER PLACE
PLEASE PLEASE KRIS LET ME KILL SUSIE PLEASE PLEASE
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>>741977083
If you don't do the eyeballs bowl interaction she doesn't run off.
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>>741976584
>Toby has been poisoned by Kodaka
ABORT ABORT ABORT
WE'RE GETTING A V3 ENDING
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>>741979541
yeah if you got anything sexual from those lines you're coombrained
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>Ten feet twenty the flower man
I get this is saying Asgore is 10 ft tall, but what's the "twenty" about?
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>>741979631
Kek what did you post to get that thing to comment on your profile
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At this point it has to be the entire Holiday family colluding with Kris to keep Noelle safe from the prophecy. There is multiple Knights.
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>>741977438
Susie says she's not the one with a pen, Kris is. Turns out it was true.
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>>741979592
>You can bring the Flower gang to help you
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FLOWER MAN
FLOWER MAN
WITH HIS HEART IN THE SAND
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>too friendpilled for the twitter audience
Can he be stopped?
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>>741979598
ohmy fuck thats so fucking hot god i wish i still had lolicon degenerate friends to perve out over drawings we used to draw as teenagers this shits so fucking liberating
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>>741979583
>knows he's fated to fail
>eh, it's worth trying anyway
roaring FRAUD jobbed to a wall
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>>741979541
>pic
Kris learns about the importance of gatekeeping
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>>741979670
Imagine the shitshow if we get "WE HAVE TO STOP DELTARUNE" type of ending.
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>>741979676
It's width. Flowery is calling him a lardass
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>>741977531
>>741977617
don't have it but noelle actually gets pretty upset when she learns kris gave tenna away
i think she would've liked tenna
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>>741979252
It's just the easiest way to continue the "Kris must suffer" train.
>Mom is neglectful
>Dad is schizoid
>Older sister is missing
>Older brother is away
>Childhood crush is estranged
>Everything he does betray someone due to double trucies
>Only true supporter is Ralsei and he WILL get sealed with Castle Town
>Best friend/your last lifeline is now getting distant
>Both of your crushes are dating each other and keep you around because they can't function without you
Suselle is about Kris, weirdly enough.
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>>741979631
i don't ship fictional characters and i don't self insert. i leave such things to the mentally ill
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>>741979504
Um sweatie we don't deadname cute and valid transfolx here
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>>741979385
>for the flower
Did you mean feather? There's also the question of how Kris knew that Seth would want that and to prepare it in advance.
Asgore knew Flowery somehow, so my only explanation is that Kris knew Seth from a prior Dark World and knew that he was obsessed with Berdly from that so he just whispered to the flower itself
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>>741979383
>the title of the eggless achievement was COMPLETE WITHOUT ISSUE
>dragons are born out of eggs
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>>741979674
>yeah if you got anything sexual from those lines you're coombrained
Are you autistic? What does sex have to do with this? Don't you realize that you can betray a friendship, too?
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>>741976625
SooomeBODY
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>>741979674
She's betraying the bro code, Anon. That's way everyone is seething.
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>>741979736
who was having problems with flowery anyway? that shit was much easier than mew mew and he hasn't touched her (i still think the small bombs should have a predictive path like the big ones do)
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she's right, you know.
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>Not doing the YOU HAVE TO EAT ALL THE EGGS route where you eat the Egg every time you acquire it
ngmi
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>>741979697
I don't know. Someone else posted it.
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>chapter 2 was the last pure tobium we ever got
how could I have known
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>>741979291
Really grasping at straws like a man possessed when Seam said outright that Jevil told him everything and that's why he's a knower.
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>>741979885
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>>741979598
Please let the artist do a follow up with the current knowledge
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>>741976930
>Does canon Suselle ruin the game for you?
Yeah kinda. They were the worst part of part 2 so if the rest of the game is just going to be that dragging on and on like in 5 then it's over.
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>>741979902
i hope toby kills herself
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>>741979598
Holy fuck that's actually fucking hot
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>>741979728
FLOWER MAN
TAKE ME BY THE HAND, LEAD ME TO THE LAND
THAT YOU UNDERSTAND
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>>741979842
My ultimate vessel schizo theory is that the vessel HAS the potential to rebel, but only if you equip it with the twisted sword together with it having the MIND gift
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>>741979504
To make the Asriel parallels easier to catch. Both are named after religious figures.
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>>741979541
It's so fucking over...
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>>741979819
losing a friend... is not NTR.

hell even losing a girlfriend is not NTR. it's just a break-up (not that she was a girlfriend)

寝盗られ... emphasis on the 寝. that term is explicitly sexual
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>>741979929
Do the fucking suselle troons not feel bad for Kris's cucking at all?
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>>741979932
only small glimmers of hopium in what little npcs there are this time around.
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>>741979974
Those are children
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Do you guys think Toby actively getting pushed to finish Deltarune finally and speed development? And all this damaging writing and tone of the chapters
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>>741979609
>Only now realized this is the window area that Susie was trying to smash of Asgore's shop
So that was the real sun shining
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>>741979670
>to defeat the real enemy (Gaster) you have to reject DELTARUNE! the only winning movie is not to play!
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>>741980049
out of ten etc etc
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>>741977379
Berdly would immediately realize they are in over their heads, do the responsible thing and get adults (YUCK!) putting an end to the gay drama.
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>>741979898
Genuinely first tried him because the new soul gimmick basically demands he be easier. I'm looking forward to a hard mode mod that makes him not only harder, but even more badass.
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>>741980006
THE KEKING IS THE POINT
THE ENDING IS SUPPOSED TO FEEL FUCKED UP
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>>741979774
>Everything he does betray someone due to double trucies
>double trucies
*triple
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>>741979902
i have not once seen a joke about someone actually being trans that didn't feel insidious in nature
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>>741976625
The prophecy doesn't involve 3 heroes but 4 and Ralsei and Kris were trying to keep Noelle out
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>>741980121
It certainly seems to be the case.
I doubt anyone finished Chapter 5 without feeling bad for Kris.
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Guys, guys, please.
We (the soul) kept winning from chapter 2 to 4.
Chapter 5 is only a temporary setback.
It's not over yet. Keep on believing.
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>>741979898
I was because, for some unknown reason, the game started to horrifically lag by "round 2".
This isn't a potato PC either.
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You know it's bad when an NTR artist admits he lost to Toby.
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>>741980227
so you're just gonna spam this every thread now?
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Boomer schizo here, I don't know if this has been brought up before but I was thinking about how people were saying the character-flavored tea was inspired by a kid's book Toby read. I read the same book when I was a kid and I remember another story that I think was in the same book/series about a kid who desperately wanted to be "Free" that made a big enough impression on me that I tried to run away from home (got like half a mile away lol.) I kind of want to find the story and see if there's anything Toby was inspired by, but I'm lazy.
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>>741980262
Obviously
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>>741976035
I unironically want him to be the knight, but also to be a remorseless piece of shit, fully evil.
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>>741980205
brat soul + aqua when?
is there someone working on it?
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>>741979898
I second tried Mew Mew
Flowery took me 5 tries
The orange dash is clunky
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>>741979937
I don't think I'm grasping at all, Seam knows way too much, and he was the one egging Kris to get the rest. He was also aware of who HELD the other crystals. not surprising since he is ERAM
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>>741980192
>beard
>shorthair
oh thank FUCK he hasn't actually trooned out
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>either your crush get stolen or she drown
What a shitty life.
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>>741975707
>gosling.exe
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>>741979898
The fucking mouse got me killed once but it was still a relatively easy fight nonetheless.
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>>741980227
actually it's only the NTR-loving freaks that think the game has NTR in it.
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>>741980262
Why are you seething?
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>>741980205
(we)'re still winning, it's kris i'm worried about
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>>741980192
what the fuck is chad Taro doing with a wimpy troon loser like Toby?
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These threads piss me off.

I am the original Starwalker .
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More people should also realize the NTRkino in the weird route
>aborted weird route
>suselle scenes cut by ''nothing changed'' and ''a Noelle is just a Noelle''
>weird route
>Tells Kris that everyone is a fucking NPC, Snowgrave was the best thing that happened in her life and that she wants to fuck off from town with him

Noelle literally went to a date with Susie, found it boring, and decided the best option was suicide with Kris
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>>741980227
Is it really NTR if the whole game keep lampshading how it's going to end horribly?
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>>741980323
There's some parts where you want to charge it, some parts where you want to tap it, and some parts where you actually don't need to use it at all (Seth teamup)
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Imagine if chapter 7 ending has 0 link to gaster in any form and just cuts to black. You know...like a dream ending
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>>741978569
Never seen this before, but it batters my heart with feels good lord
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>>741980428
I bet you ten thousand dollars Suselle gets a happy ending and nothing else does
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Even if Flowery did no damage whatsoever, The Knight was still RUNNING AWAY like a coward from him and it's directly because of Flowery that the dude crashed into a wall and smashed his and on the ground in anger. Flowery got the knight SEETHING. He won.
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>>741980273
this?
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>>741980401
>being worried about a mere tool that will be abandoned for (You)r new deer body very soon
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>>741980421
I'm still not sure what happened in Aborted WR. How was Noelle talking over it like the same things in the Normal Route happened but she's the same person despite it?
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>>741980421
Unsurprising.
Reminder than in the aborted route, her broken dream/shadow crystal is just to run away with Kris.
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>cucjcuckcuckcuckuckcuckcuckntrntrcuckntrcuckcuckcuck
Holy fuck, these threads are getting boring. This is why you should never joke about these things, you end up attracting actual /trash/ trannies that just want to spam their mental illness instead of discussing anything else.
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>>741980421
It's what that faggot dino deserves.
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>>741980332
>spoiler
I can't tell whether that would make the porn worse or better.
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>>741980369
>actually it's only the NTR-loving freaks that think the game has NTR in it.
Nigger please. When your best friend starts flirting with a girl you like right in front of you, that's not NTR?
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>>741980421
Suselle stocks are crashing after hitting record highs
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>>741980332
>I don't think I'm grasping
You're so uninformed that you're telling me you're going to fly up into the sky and hog-tie a cloud to bring back down to me, and I'm telling you that's straight up not how it works.
I only really have a problem with "Seam is the true schizo", which means nothing. But I'm simply pointing out why and how Seam knows what he knows.

If you're just saying "Seam will be epic sans genocide boss who knows your snowgraves" I couldn't give less of a shit.
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>>741980530
Because a Noelle is just a Noelle.
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>>741980528
yeah i like my shitass current vessel actually, i'm invested in his personal life and i want him to succeed a little
weird route me is another beast
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>>741980308
Me too. It'd be kino as fuck but Toby isn't based enough for that.
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>>741980552
/trash/ both had doe and sus threads. They both were depressed after 5 . Even Twitter finds writing...strange
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Guys,

What if Chapter 6 doesn't deliver...
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>>741980205
post full
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>>741980530
She's freedompilled which means she's always aware that she's constrained by the story with independence out of her reach.
(You) dangle a shot at freedom in front of her and she goes for it. When it fails, everything plays out as normal and she laments that she's stuck in a gay fanfic she's forced to play out.
The drowning still happened because Kris is at 1 HP when you abort in ch5.
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>he doesn't have a Bald Vessel Route save prepared
bricked
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>>741980401
That's what I meant
Part of (our) plan is to get Kris his purple yoshi gf
Noelle is for either mindbreak or Berdly (possibly both)

>>741980702
>
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>>741980676
Then you can safely start doomposting
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>>741980490
With Susie being weird? With Noelle being dissociative? With the Roaring coming? With shiptease with everything else under the sun still present?
With all these "Susie is going to die" hints?

Prepare to pay up, dearie.
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>>741980657
oh are we posting kino knight edits? love these things (even if 99% of them are gonna end up being wrong)
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>>741979842
Only showing up in Chapter 7 now.
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>>741980552
>So boring
What are you, 13?
That kid who's hanging out with everyone else and going "this is so boring, let's do something else" not because it's boring but because it's just something he doesn't like.
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>>741976371
Everything goes back to UT Suzy as told by the Clam Goner

We're going to fucking explode Susie out of reality and re-create a universe the world is saved, but she doesn't exist anymore.
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>>741978578
>Unbirthing
n-nani?
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>>741980676
then some fag will start coping about ch7

and then when that comes out, and its all cuck trash, no papyrus, no reveals, just vague shit

then they will cope and say a secret ch8 is coming
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>>741978578
>Fallen Shota Unbirthing Unit
Did you mean Martlet?
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>>741980795
Human souls are stored in the womb
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I can't stop fucking laughing that this guy fucking murdered and sold onionsan's remains as food like a Mafia cartel
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>>741978204
Ralsei outright tells Susie she's the second hero in his fake prophecy. It was clearly planned by him and Kris, somehow.
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>>741980676
>Don't worry guys, chapter 7 will fix it!
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>>741980843
>Ribbon looks like a heart
>Blue like Kris in the Dark World
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>>741980575
you can't get NTR'd if you don't have a gf/wife.

having a crush on emma watson doesn't make you a cuck when she fucks other people
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>>741980676
Then we still got a full year before the doom is validated.
>That’s why, let’s not look there for now. Let’s turn around and watch the sun, before it goes down completely.
>Let’s smile again.
>Let’s have one more fun adventure, okay?

...
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>>741980759
I am, are you?
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>>741980738
nice
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>>741980882
Wait. WTF? Onion died?
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>>741979898
>That image
When the Knight cut that performative fag in half I cheered.
It was the only hype moment of the normal route.

My only regret was that I couldn't do it myself.
Literally, Susie and Ralsei would not let me.
Even if I intentionally let them get downed, they'd stand back up, max heal the boss, then collapse again.
Fucking bullshit.
Toby's such a hack.
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>>741980924
gay.
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>>741978175
>>741978569
>They jump into the lake during the 2nd run around

TOOOBBBYYYYYYY
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>>741980653
>Burgerpants doesn't even entertain the idea of dating the homo and can land the alligator or leave her SEETHING if he becomes friends with the cat instead
How can one character remain so based across games, despite things become gayer and gayer every chapter
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>>741980882
what the FUCK did he mean by this?
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>>741980605
And I'm saying Seam is following the pattern. Jevil is so irrelevant compared to the other schizo bosses that this would feel almost natural.
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Thinking about it, Ralsei absolutely has to be a tree. That's why he and Flowery know each other. The plants all communicate.
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>>741980903
Google childhood friend NTR. NTR has many layers and flavors.
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>>741980926
>they killed my mp3 from ages ago
fug
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>>741980947
Yeah he got too close to Gaster's underwater bubble city operation so they ripped off his limbs and fried him up.
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>>741980676
It has to aim high, considering no weird route. Also with all that
>let's have one last happy adventure
thing it naturally implies that what follows is gonna be big and not happy so it has to follow through on those expectations. It can't afford to just be a normal chapter.
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>>741962115
i thought that was purple man and this was implying side B is an FNAF crossover which isn't out of the realm of impossibility
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>>741980974
Coincidental. Focus on the bad writing please.
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>my best friend getting her first girlfriend and somewhat distancing herself from me, in a period where she's extremely stressed and unsure about the future, making her enter cope mode and fully immerse herself in escapism, is exactly the same as my favorite genre of porn where an obese balding brown man rapes my braindead bimbo gf
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>>741980205
>skip all the cringe shipshit at the start of the normal route
>hinted that we haven't fully aborted it
>save file fuckery
WeirdGAWDs continue to win bigly.
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>>741980903
Emma watson doesn't invite me to sit on the cuck chair to watch her dyke out with another dyke after all the good moments we passed together..
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>>741980947
Did you not return to the lake in the next chapter?
Blue guy shows up on the beach and says to not look for him anymore.
He was going to spill extremely secret beans, he had to be Removed.
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>>741981014
>Ralsei has been releasing his pollen (tree sperm) all over Hometown
w-whoa......
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>>741980308
So you want him to be Adachi (forma de deer)?
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>>741981000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWE9w_pAX0
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>>741980514
Yeah, thanks, found it.
https://wayside-school.fandom.com/wiki/Freedom
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>>741981031
KINO
should have been donut man or clam boygirl instead of g!kid though
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>>741981025
no i will not google that and you're just proving my point >>741980369
>actually it's only the NTR-loving freaks that think the game has NTR in it
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>>741981102
>Blue guy shows up on the beach and says to not look for him anymore.
>He was going to spill extremely secret beans, he had to be Removed.
ONIOOOOON. NOOO
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>>741981109
He IS 12 inches, after all
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>>741981058
You're looking too deep into it.
Fact is, Susie stole MY girlfriend.
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I will destroy cuckworld
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>>741979252
Toby wtf
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>>741981000
https://files.catbox.moe/774k7u.png
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>>741981025
That's for admitting the only people seeing this as cuckshit, are cuck porn addcits.
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This fuggen' game
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>>741981121
>attract a wild bird named Oddly, whom he's recently befriended. He briefly turns away, as Oddly only comes if no one is looking. Myron watches Oddly out of the corner of his eye, and Kathy asks if his dumb bird friend has returned
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>>741981149
>no i will not google
Then why are you trying to argue if you don't know shit, you retard?
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>>741980882
Onionsan found the Meat Factory.
Weird Route Kris and Noelle are heading to the Meat Factory next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQai9BKW3E
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>>741981112
Yes. He can still be doing it for a good reason if Toby needs wiggle room, (Saving Dess, whatever) but I'd prefer he be unrepentant, unwilling to budge and more than willing to kill you to do it. Then you kill him.
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WAIT DONT

ACK
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I already like her more than Susie.
Gonna take a bit gettin used to hooves tho...
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>>741979898
me. I was playing on a tv screen and the orange mode fucking SUCKS.
Fuck Aquas knife attack too.
Other than that is really is quite easy.
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>>741981058
>in a period where she's extremely stressed and unsure about the future
Reminder that YOUR DAD literally got kidnapped and instead of trying to comfort you or anything like that she's instead focused on the escapism to bring her girlfriend into what was formerly the thing just for you two. Said girlfriend is also your childhood friend that you still deeply care for.
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>>741981291
Yeah i'd like for him to be extra mean to Susie even if I prefer Carol Knight.
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>>741981149
>>741981183
>knowing about NTR = you're a cuck
What the fuck kind of logic is that? Are you 14 or something?
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>>741981327
Better than the scales
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>>741981225
It's interesting how quick Noelle goes from
>"W-What's going on?!"
to
>"Let's wrongwrap away from these NPCs, Kris."
It's been what, two days in-universe?
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>>741981327
That means her stepping on you feels quite exquisite
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>>741980924
>Let’s smile again.
>Chapter makes me frown
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How hard do you think Susie is going to suffer by the end of this?

How hard is the whole group going to suffer by the end of it?
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>>741981267
because i already know what an osananajimi is and that you can date one. so obviously nothing about such a thing changes the definition of ntr
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>>741980205
KRUSIEBROS TRUST THE PLAN
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>>741981348
Yes, she's not acting rationally, you faggot, that's the point. Instead of assuming this is obviously leading to something, you want me to believe I'm supposed to jerk off to this for some reason.
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>>741981415
what prosneeding does to a mf
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>>741981348
I'm sure nothing is wrong. All schizo bosses were fine, after all.
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>>741981465
Kris is literally gonna burn her ‘home’ to the ground
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>>741981456
Hmm maybe with some soft velvety sleeves...
Okay now the noggin is joggin anon.
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>>741979583
>Ralsei tells Flowery the knight will murder him
>he does

Ralsei is always right.
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>>741981463
Of course. As someone said before
>the whole chapter was "SHIT IS GETTING WORSE" wearing the thinnest veneer of cheerfulness possible
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>>741981465
I'm starting to seriously think Susie isn't gonna survive in the end
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>>741981415
this is the most jarring thing in this game, how every character acts like the in-game events have been taking years and had similar-scaled impact when it's been 5 days
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When the fuck did this silly man who was encouraging us on beating the knight order his goons to cut up and sell the remains of people who got in his way as food like a cartel boss?
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>>741981327
i always liked noelle more all the way from chapter 1 even knowing her yuri proclivities, so imagine my surprise when she ended up being the main character of a whole route
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>>741980308
I'd love it if his whole motivation is him just not wanting to die and willing to do anything to stop his illness, even if it meant killing his daughters
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>>741981121
>The bald man asks MC if he wants to be free or safe, because he can't have it both ways.
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>>741981465
It's gonna be the cheesiest most saccharine ending when all the story is done and let's not pretend Toby has the balls to do otherwise (the only sufferer will be you, and maybe Kris)
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>>741981465
>How hard do you think Susie is going to suffer by the end of this?
I hope she dies
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>>741981415
Yeah but It's been 7 years for toby and he's getting old
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>>741980738
>>741980205
Grrrr damn dokigaki!!
NEEDS HEART ATTACK CORRECTION
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>>741981603
Look man, do whatever you want but don't get in the way of his gonerphetamine biz.
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>Susie is the final boss of the normal route
>Ralsie is the final boss of the Weird Route
>Noelle is the final boss of the Twisted Route
calling it now.
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>>741981393
I know what cuck porn is, that doesn't mean I see cuck porn in everything.
Unrequited love is the most prevalent thing in most stories, but it's all cuck porn according to mentally ill people.
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>>741981628
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>tfw it went from "Susie will not be tamed" to
>"Noelle CANNOT be tamed"
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>>741981603
onion was gonna spoil HIS DELTARUNE
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>>741981623
The prophecy says Susie dies. We already know this.
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>>741962115
Why does the game present Noelle getting freedom-pilled as something so ominous? Why is Kris so upset about it?
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>>741981590
I was frowning because it was BAD
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>>741981465
I'm going to kill Susie
I'm going to burn Ralsei
I'm going to suicide Kris
And lastly I'll rape the does, all of them
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>>741981614
clearly a reference to ben franklin's NTR fetish
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>>741981620
It's been made clear over and over against that the ending is going to be bittersweet. It's why the player seeks out the weird route.
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>>741978806
chapter 5 just enforced rudyknight for me
>WHY DID IT WEAP? WHY DID THE WEAPON SHIFT FROM A BAT TO A BLADE? "
grief over dess and what he has to do, i think the knight being "unstable" due to the shadow crystals is definitely true though, rudy probably isn't exactly "rudy" when he's acting as the knight
>WHY DOES IT DO KRIS'S POSES?
entirely possible it's the other way around, i could definitely see elements of kris' poses being something he picked up from rudy and/or dess as a kid
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>>741978792
The motive is clearly right there.
Noelle probably knows at least that Dess disappeared when messing with something she shouldn't have. Maybe she'll realize Dess' disappearance came from doing stuff with Dark Worlds and freak out, insisting that Susie leave the closet or even that the fountain be closed so she doesn't lose Susie the same way. And Kris sides with Noelle due to what they know.

And that's when Susie snaps and winds up kicking Noelle and Kris out, prompting both to find a way to get back in there and talk some sense into Susie.
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>>741981010
>The pattern
The pattern you describe is hardly a pattern at all and rather just a couple of things you'd like to be true. That being a bunch of imaginary headcanons in a trench coat imagining, "what would Ramb's boss fight be like if he was allowed to be a boss fight?" Which is just basic denial of the reality of what actually happened.

This is just "potentialman" the theory.
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>>741981596
To be fair, the hints were always there for Noelle. Remember how she was smiling when she asked if she should freeze the enemy?
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>>741981687
>all the dog kris jokes
>susie is the one betraying everything if the prophecy throws a bone
Ironic.
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>>741980465
Gaster will never be even inferred
The Knight is just a monster that we haven't seen yet
Everything will be resolved happily
No questions will be answered
Thanks for the money, dummies
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>>741981180
Can't help but notice that Darkners call The Roaring Hell while Spamton and Noelle allude to Heaven
>The Ring of Heaven
>The Tail of Hell
So there's something worse than the regular titan underneath it all
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>>741981603
Don’t fucking poke your head into HIS deltarune
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>>741981714
>not sexing kris too
what a fool you are
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It's clear at this point that Kris is really confident they're going to die so they pushed Noelle away so that Noelle wouldn't suffer as much pain losing Kris.
It's also why Kris does a lot to keep Susie & Noelle with each other-- to prevent either of them from being even more in pain 'when' Kris dies.
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So is this a connection to Chapter 5's Weird Route? Tenna doesn't let you wander too far into the sea either.
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what happens if you stab someone and the blade goes right through and hits the ground? Do non soul characters die from touching the fountain?
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>>741981857
>It's also why Kris does a lot to keep Susie & Noelle with each other
He doesn't want to vocalize it, though.
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no one else matters
no one else matters
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>>741981620
Weird Route proves that he has the guts to be edgy, its consistently the best part of the game
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>>741981872
>water is a reference to water

toby you clever dog! you've done it again!
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>>741981919
Funny how the biggest detractor of Suselle is real Noelle
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>Yuri is the highest form of literature. The lesbian romance? The handholding? The trials and the tribulations? Peak fiction.
>BUT. That's only one part of it. to truly appreciate it you need NTR. Watching the girl you like get swept away by your middle school bully while you just sit there in your chair helplessly. Absolutely amazing. Suselle is canon because I wanted to combine the ultimate highs of romance with the agonizing despair of a romantic cuckoldry sub-plot. it's the perfect narrative cocktail.
>Look forward to chapter 6 in 2029!
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>>741981678
Non canon, I'm a 7 feet tall muscular soul man. Not a little sissy.
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>>741980737
I chose the norwood head
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>>741981872
You can go back there when Tenna has to leave. You get to a shore that's blocked a bush sprite you could cut down in the real game. Susie thinks it's cool but Ralsei is afraid. She asks why and he says it's because he didn't know what's over there.
In the real game it leads into the place you pick up the white hooded figure, use up her and the ice key, receive the shelter key, and get used up yourself.
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>>741981980
Nigga I meant Tenna doesn't let you go out of bounds because that'd break the game. Just like Kris and Noelle going into the lake breaks the game.
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>>741979051
>knower
>sealed the first crystal
>guides you to fight the other crystal holders
>outright has lines in ch5 stating he wants to fight someone strong
he is absolutely going to be a bossfight
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>>741981960
>he has the guts to be edgy
But not the guts to stick with his artistic integrity when some people interpret it as rape.
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>>741981415
Not really interesting have you seen her blog entries? Shes a creepypasta, glitch, code and exploit freak in her videogames that keep being haunted by inexplicable shit, she is naturally drawn to those things, or rather those things are naturally drawn to her, might explain the SOUL'S obsession with her.
>B-but the soul is us
That's true, but why don't you go play Chapter 1 again? During the classroom to pick a partner, pick Noelle immediately. See what changes.
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>>741982004
does this guy ever get tired?
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>>741981872

maybe instead of there being no world outside, maybe its all frozen and its happy town is being kept warm by like... a core of some kind.

Like snowpiercer shit
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It would be pretty cool if we end get a final choice like E33
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>>741981995
WR Noelle isn't her real self.
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>>741981603
Spoiler fags need to get culled
Remember he made that voice message before calling out dataminingfags before
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>>741980737
>noelle prefers bald men
FUCK
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>>741982162
how much of a speedreader do you have to be to think this
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>>741981919
>Side A Kris Humiliation ritual as punishment for being a sneaky fuck in 3-4
>Yandeere Side B
i'm thinking this chapter is pretty gud
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Hmmmm
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>>741982013
PANTIED
AND
SISSIFIED
HEART-CHAN
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so, nothing exists beyond hometowns "borders" right? the lake is too deep to be crossed, the only exit is blocked off. and there's trees surrounding the town. And the Ferris wheel gets stuck halfway.
if so, how can there be a "good" ending when they exist in a literal box?
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>The genuine fandom consensus forming across multiple sites is that the Suselle cuckening is so cruel and absurd that it HAS to be a setup to a dramatic falling out
What if chapter 5 was so LGBT because a major plot point of DR will be a failed lesbian relationship and this was to "make up for it"?
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>>741982162
Wrong. By her own admission, it's the realest Noelle has ever been.
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>>741981465
>How hard do you think Susie is going to suffer by the end of this?
I can only hope. That is my answer.
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>>741982068
He can't escape the implications no matter how hard he tries.
hell people find it hotter with Noelle now getting manic rape vibes
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>>741982132
>The snow covering the world foreshadowed in the ARG and the Prophecy is not because Noelle froze it all over but because the world outside of Hometown is literally frozen
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>>741982203
>>741982248
Bro you destroy her sense of self and rebuild it with rapes. It's even more jarring that Susie and the lizard has the prophecy panel fucking her up as an excuse.
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>>741982142
>Like E33
For one thing it'd be like OFF, nephew.
For another thing the endings of E33 is one of the weakest parts
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>>741982242
Counterpoint: The deltarune team is made up of multiple trannitors
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>>741982096
Who? Toby? I don't think so, he'll write even more cuck scenes in Chapter 6.
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>>741982242
>exact same maniac expression in both mother and daughter
Who the fuck weird route'd Carol????
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>>741982285
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>>741982096
What if he was our Vessel.
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I have low hopes as a vesselfag. I am NEVER seeing my child again
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>>741982142
That would be really shallow if it came down to one single decision and not a culmination of our actions
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>>741981493
I think you're just getting too sensitive about your own little dick being called into question when this is just a framing device for how other people understand it, which isn't far-off from the truth of both girls Kris likes ending up getting together and deciding he's dead weight.
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Imagine what if Chapter 5 the way it is, due to Kodaka's advice. Dog check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAc9GMz35I
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>>741982316
jesus you really fucking missed the point huh
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>NOW RUNNING
>GOSLING OS
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tags:_______;___________;__________
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>>741982368
That scene was pure fucking sex.
There's nothing more penetrative than a girl screaming your name asking you to continue as you keep plowing faster and faster.
Toby really is the king of ero games
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>>741982316
Replay the game reeeeeeeeal slow.
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>>741982332
I did play OFF, faggot
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>>741982238
It's implied the Ferris wheel went all the way up if Kris & Noelle ride it together. The reason is that Susie wasnt able to throw dirt high enough to hit their car, and because it mirrors the hammer game. Susie and Noelle could only get the hammer machine halfway up until Susie 'cheated' it. Noelle and Kris get the hammer game maxed out no matter what.
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>>741982368
This whole sequence was one of the most violent things i've ever done in a video game, in a good way.
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>>741982473
Ignore that. It's all Suselle now.
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>>741982316
Anon, did you not notice that she admitted she wanted to kill herself in both routes? What do you think the whole "leaving but was too cowardly to do so" was about?
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>>741982242
No shit, the whole point of this chapter was JEALOUSY.
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we've gotta set kris up with the one girl who truly loves him
it'll take a bit of breaking the code, but it's worth it
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If Noel becomes this crazy when going nuts. What happened to Dess in dark world?
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I find the idea of Hometown being in some kind of locked off space really unsatisfying. Part of what I thought was cool about Deltarune was it being part of a broader world where humans & monsters coexisted somehow. What's the point narratively? Why should I be invested in these characters if even in-universe they're just simulations or whatever?
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>>741982313
>>741982132

maybe someone snowgraved it in the past, I would say dess, but it seems like it happened a long time ago, so whoever did it died a long time ago and would be a skeleton now
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>>741980192
I fucking hate how Toby does his wannabe Taro face-hiding bullshit
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>>741982242
God it really is amazing watching the cope gymnastics

No guys, suselle is it, that's all we're going to get. There is no depth. Toby's just a fucking idiot who didn't consider the consequences of dangling the other ships in front of you
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>>741982473
God FUCKING dammit Toby I don't know what to believe anymore.
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>>741982570
>The one girl who truly loves him
>Asriel's letter from Dess
Kris is alone. Jealousy is to blame for everything that will transpire.
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>>741981000
Type B A L L in undertale title screen for funny sound
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>>741981180
Susie and Noelle also can't see the NormalNPC. In weird route susie says the takoyaki stand was unmanned all day.
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>>741982535
Suselle is nothing but an excuse to torture Kris.
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>>741982681
>Asriel's letter from Dess
Unsent letter to Dess.
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>>741982570
>tomboy looking girl in a yuri game. Yeah i'm sure she isn't a dyke, right?
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>>741982313

shame someone doesn't have fire magic to set them free
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>>741982609
I still wonder if Dess was secretly abusive toward Kris. I wonder if she once tried to drown him and they fell into the underwater dark world that way.
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>>741982491
>Finish main route at 3am
>"Yeah I'll do Weird Route for a little until I get to a stopping point and then go to sleep"
Mashing that shit alone in the dark as the sound gets louder and more fucked up was such a unique sensory experience, I feel bad for anyone that just youtube'd it for not getting to feel that in the moment
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>>741982737
Asriel and Dess literally won King and Queen of the Festival one time, they were a thing, 100%
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>>741982242
Noelle in WR expresses her inner hatred for people who just monotonously march on with their lives every single day without purpose, clearly reflecting her thoughts in the normal route.

and Susie in chapter 4 said she wants every day to be the same.

They're doomed.
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>>741982242
So... when did Carol get a taste of that sweet, sweet [Freedom Sauce]?
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>>741982716
>also can't see the NormalNPC
The question is whether only Kris can see them, or if they only show up when Kris does. I think it's the latter, since I feel like Susie or Noelle would've commented on it when you go there with them, but maybe I'm wrong.
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>>741982749
Pants confirmed that Dess & Asriel made out OFTEN.
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Anonymouse! You need to give your opinion on this!
https://poal.me/d4vaps
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>>741982737
unsent because Kris murdered her btw
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>>741982849
Well it's fucking Toby, so I'm sure Asriel will be made into a woman.
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>>741982609
Going off the lost girl text in the code, Dess seems pretty lucid, she says a door of light closed amidst the darkness, I think a whole portion of the map fell to the Roaring, she's stuck in the Darkness of the eternal night but still dealing well with it
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>>741979252
Deltarune is my favorite NTR game!
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>>741982783
Tsmt. I had never gotten chills and an erection at the same time before playing Deltarune Chapter 5.
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>>741982783
complete ludonarrative synchrony
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Why are there only like 3 heterosexual couples in this small religious American town?
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>>741982737
>>741982790
Reminder that you can also find a letter from Asriel addressed to Catty. I think the dude was just throwing random shots and hoping one of them would land.
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>>741982849
i may have lost some details but there is no explicit implication dess liked Asriel in that way, right?
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>>741980421
wait a sec, so if you keep telling Noelle to proceed, the weird route is aborted, am I reading that right? I am retarded, please bear with me
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>>741981603
You won't play the game through if someone just tells you how it ends.
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Can we slow down I'm having a hard time reading every post.
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>>741982971
I think the letter in his pocket was probably from a later moment in time Dess was already gone if that had to be the case
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>>741982242
Most people outside of here like Suselle, and Toby's not making the game for us. Leave your delusions behind to avoid further disappointment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6S2XgQJ8c
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>>741982897
I wouldn't call talking to oneself in fear of disappearing "coping with it well".
Especially if the theory of the Knight being her own broken dream is accurate.
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>>741981000
gaster's most loyal soldier
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>>741982970
It's not a real down it was created by the demiurge NEXT
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>>741982970
anon... HOW exactly do you think all those children were made...?
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It's crazy how much less I like Susie AND Ralsei after this chapter why the fuck did they do me like this
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>>741983053
>Toby's not making the game for us.
that was clear but fucker literally made us believe there was a chance for Krusie
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>>741983062
That was the most kino moment of chapter 5 normal route by such a large margin.
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>>741982365
Rudy was quite the troublemaker back in his day before he mellowed out.
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>>741979979
what this
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>>741983016
Nigga she has his retainer in her room and his sweater in her closet.
THEY WERE KING & QUEEN OF THE FESTIVAL MULTIPLE YEARS AND RODE THE FERRIS WHEEL TOGETHER
If anything Azzy got to third base AT LEAST. He may have run it home before she disappeared.
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>>741983028
You can't abort the weird route in chapter 5. Either you cross to the other side with Noelle or... you stop telling her to proceed and get forcibly thrown back into something that resembles the normal route but with a Noelle that caught a glimpse of the world behind the curtain.
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>>741983046
The Catty letter mentions junior dance so it was the 3rd year of high school, and he's in college now so... Maybe? He could've only gotten with December in the last year of high school and then she disappeared, we don't have a good timeline.
>>741983035
This is a bit slower than it was yesterday, that's the best you'll get.
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>>741982316
Massively raped post. I'm sensing serious rape-particles. Evident of an at least tier 9 KWABBING event.
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>>741983071
No guarantees that's the case though, the philosophers imply Kris left his dreams "there", and the shell and shore dialogue seems to reinforce this
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Someone said Toby having George Lucas problem currently. Nobody holding him back, so Toby slowly going nuts with ideas
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>>741983028
If you stop telling to Proceed while venturing into the lake, it aborts.
But evidently not entirely. There's no chime that usually plays if you "end" the weird route.
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>>741983250
dead octopus
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>>741983053
>Most people outside of here like Suselle
Anon, even in places like fucking Tumblr there tons of people complaining about how Suselle was portrayed in canon.
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so, you think G-Man is pissed that we skipped 6 in weird route?
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>>741979979
I don't know if I want to go into the lake anymore...
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>>741983170
the funny part is if this happened in any previous chapter it wouldn't even be that bad, but having it happen in the chapter that kris lost all of his dating options at once feels like a kick to the nuts
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>>741983278
Soooo, nothing explicit. Got it.
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AND SLOWLY
BUT SURELY

/v/

BEGAN

TO HOPE
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I don't get how people think there's nothing outside of the town if Asriel is outside of it and he's going to be brought back home in the next few days. Unless they think that Toriel is a part of some massive conspiracy
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I remember Toby mentioned Lynch when talking about Deltarune once
I wonder how much of Twin Peaks he watched since Deltarune has some Twin Peaks in it.
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>>741983170
>saying this after the susie bullshit and everything
wtf is ralsei's problem
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>>741983345
He actually has a much worse problem than that. he has a court of literal eunuchs encouraging him.
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>>741983414
Next time don't betray the bro code, SLUT
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Even Berdly knew
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>>741983446
>some
>SOME
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>>741983062
>>741983220
I just finished chapter 5 today and don't even know what this is. Is this the final boss?
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Total cat obliteration
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>>741983482
Despite all the memes. Berdly only one with brain to notice something was wrong with Noel
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>>741983431
What fucking else do you want as a clue dude, a picture in Dess' phone sucking his dick?
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>>741982783
>>741982906
>Chapter 4 Rose Scene
>Holy shit, did... Did Toby just imply we did something akin to raping Noelle? That's heavy
>Patches rose due to "misunderstanding"
>Assume it was Toby being a pussy and compromising his vision.
>Chapter 5 sequence of Noelle Screaming for (You) to Proceed
>If you drown, Kris is the "Shattered rose"
>We WERE actually reading it wrong, Kris is the one who was violated
I FUCKING KNEEL HOLY FUCK
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>>741983528
Tori gate with the sun coming out after Asgore gets kidnapped
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>>741983278
>If anything Azzy got to third base AT LEAST
now i don't disagree with the other shit because i don't actually care about dess' kiss virginity, but come on man jumping straight from likely confirmation of kissing to SHE WAS JACKING HIM OFF is showing your bias
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>>741983407
If he were he'd have permanently cut us off right after the drowning. But we sure gave him a lot of work to do, so he might be a little cranky.
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>>741983445
For starters, no one has been able to communicate with Asriel in days
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>>741979598
holy jesus
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>>741983062
People who said the OST this Chapter was lame were tripping. This, Petal Dance, Flower Man are great.
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>>741983440
>Flowery wasn't able to do or change anything in the slightest
Feels bad, man. I wasn't expecting him to win, but I was hoping he'd at least pull something off with actual repercussions
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>>741983550
disgusting, leave my fat kitty alone
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>>741983601
Asgore gets sent to the castle**** fuck
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WAIT WHAT
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>>741983345
>Nobody holding him back, so Toby slowly going nuts with ideas
and with yuri cuckoldry fantasies
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>>741983570
That's why he had to go.
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>>741982875
Both, but chapter 2 is the Kris version and chapter 5 the schizo Noelle one.
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>>741983592
Fucking rapist deer
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>>741983446
Nigga it's all Twin Peaks.
Everything in DELTARUNE is ripping Twin Peaks off.
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>>741983440
I am beginning to hope. It was intentional. It will be acknowledged. Suselle will crash and burn, I believe this. We know everything goes horribly wrong in C6 "dark clouds on the horizon" etc. The real Noelle despises Susie, because Susie doesn't want to "break free", she wants every day to be exactly the same forever.
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>>741983672
That is 3 songs out of 50 however.
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Move >>741983771
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>>741983550
susie really is a total fucking bitch in this chapter
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>>741983692
THE QUEEN THING WASN'T ABOUT QUEEN. IT WAS NOELLE ALL ALONG.
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>normal route Susie goes full delusion mode and sees dark world as home
>weird route she will be too busy trying to find Noelle and Kris to become obsessed with the dark world
Tell me weird route isn’t the best outcome
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>>741983861
Susie's role in the Weird Route is still so strange, she's completely cucked out of importance from the story.
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>>741983308
needs a gaster face peeking around the wall in the background
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>>741983237
>haha *hacking cough*
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>>741983507
>>741983758
You just want Dess to be a secret prostitute
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>>741983580
No but i mean, there is nothing that starts from Dess. I'm reasoning in toby's terms. Unless there is something like a love letter coming FROM Dess TO Asriel i highly doubt their relationship. Knowing Toby, Dess could have thought Asriel was a really close friend. After all, isn't that the reason on why Noelle and Kris tried to become King and Queen of the festival?
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nyeheheheh look kanako I escaped the light world
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>>741983970
>You just want Dess to be a secret prostitute
Obviously!
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>>741983692
fuck
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>>741982365
i uh may have done a bit of time fuckery
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>>741983692
I love Jevil so much...
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>>741984030
>kris gets to be raped by this every night
Lucky fucking bastard
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>>741982365
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I don't believe in Suselle because Toby likes to make everyone miserable too much.
>Hey Susie? Your first friend ever is a traitor. Isn't that your worst fear lol?
>Hey Kris? What if you realized everyone would be better off without you?
>Hey Ralsei? I heard you're scared of Titans...?
>Reaching for freedom Elly? Too bad, but a Noelle is just a Noelle
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>>741983550
This conversation made me actually dislike Susie.
Which I bet was the intent.
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>>741983440
When the threads for a game violently shift between "shit fucking sux" and insane lorecrafting and schizomemes, you know shits gonna be good.
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>>741983970
in a surprising twist, the real problem was that dess DIDN'T sleep with anyone
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>>741983053
>Most people outside of here like Suselle
the general consensus seems to be overall pretty unfavourable about the suselle scenes, most people are praising the weird route above anything else that happens in the rest of the chapter
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>>741984206
>Kris is BOB yearning to get Dess to molest him
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>>741980338
bro didn't he date a woman, yes she left but men will never not lust for women even after the first one
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>>741984041
>Dess
>Chara
>Mantle
foursome...
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>>741982368
>keep saying it
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>>741984313
I'd soi face and clap with hands and feet
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>>741979979
If Lightners still turn to dust upon death then how could they make him into takoyaki?
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>>741981960
My beef with Toby's writing is that he has only two modes
>Super heckin' quirky comedy wholesome LGBT chungus
>Morbid creepypasta of total despair
And the two never intersect in a meaningful way. All the wacky hijinks and comedy men have no place in a world where two teens walk themselves into a lake to drown, and there's no way to reconcile the two. Any appeal to moderation in the weird route puts a full halt on it and shifts you back into comedy. Any level of grit in the normal route is shunned, shamed or just not allowed (see even in chapter 5, Pink is invincible and your team oppose you using Fight on Flowery)

I want both. And I want a route that actually challenges both. Challenge yourself Toby and synthesise your two halves
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>>741983459
Someone else pointed it out, but the main theme of Chapter 5 when it comes to the gang is JEALOUSY.

Susie wants Noelle, either because of real feelings or because she's easy to control.

Noelle wants both Susie (because of what she represents to her) and Kris.

Noelle wants (You) even though she's not aware of it, as well.

Ralsei wants Kris and I'd risk stating that his feelings are the most directly romantic and lustful in nature.
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>>741984146
>Toby likes to make everyone miserable too much
It's his fetish.
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>>741984458
he has 3 modes actually. The third? The funniest shit you ever read, out of nowhere, once a year.
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>>741978578
erm based?
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>>741984530
>kris and noelle do it perfectly
>susie fucks it up and has to force it
>susie and kris just bonk eachother on the heads instead
i was going to ask what susie and kris' interaction could imply but it hit me right in the middle of typing
they're going to fucking kill eachother (metaphorically, at minimum)
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>>741984458
i agree, my biggest issue with chapter 5 is that after chapter 4 taking itself so seriously it's egregious how the whole damn chapter is nothing BUT the former
you really shouldn't be filling your story with 'funny' alphabet filler once you've gone past the halfway point
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>>741982674
Thanks doc.
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>>741984458
Not true, chapter four and waterfall in undertale aren't quirk chungus or edgy grimdarkness
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>>741984004
Canon gay retard.
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E N T E R
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>>741982076
>That's true, but why don't you go play Chapter 1 again? During the classroom to pick a partner, pick Noelle immediately. See what changes.
I went to her straight away just now, saw nothing different.



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