>Don't wait! Don't wait!>Wait don't!... WAIT DON'T!He was just the first in line, the entire population of hometown is next. Gaster and his goons will find you
Toby Fox is a nigger that can't write and I want to FUCK Noelle
>>742097592Based doe raper
>>742097592yeah yeah we've all heard it and thought it before anon
This IS the thread.
>>742097495I don't know anything about deltatroon but I saw that there are other humans in it now? Why? Kind of misses the point it seems
This is the one.
>>742097692>Kris, learn from me, this is the best doe raping pose!>I'd know kris, I'm speaking from experience
>>742097672They just wanted to add more spice to the game, I suppose. They even included a human with three eyes, and a human who is tiny, has a rat tail, round ears and loves cheese.
You will never be a real human. You have no soul, you have no spirit, you have no will. You are a homosexual flower twisted by magic and darkness into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back your recruits mock you. Your King is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.Humans are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed humans to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even monsters who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a human. Your plant structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk human home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected style. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your sepal, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your King will find you, heartbroken but relieved that he no longer has to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. He’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your botanical name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a flower is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a stem that is unmistakably flowery.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
The Knight is Kris's Heartless
alwight, what were the things (you) thought were good in the Chapter.
>>742097763FloweryRalsei hating floweryAsgore not being the laughing stock for once
>>742097739A 400 year old tree wrote this btw
>>742097763Mew Mew!
Cozy gaster
>the knight = TK>monster kid = MKTK is MK
>>742097763This lil nigga, the best [Human}
>>742097730Yeah but like why are they there? It seems like jumping the shark if Toby just decided to drop a bunch of humans into the story. Like the protagonist isn't special anymore if there's just also an entire civilization of humans that's shown with no intrigue or mystery
>>7420977632d platforming but it was underutilizedFinal boss was fineWeird route is absolute KINO despite being 10 minutes longSunset of the seven suns is goodMewmew's shop was a vibeThat's about it
>>742097739JARONA
Has anyone found any worthwhile secrets in the Castle Town church yet? The piano and climbing puzzle seem to be perfect spots to hide something good.
>>742097763I just think it needed another year to polish. Pacing is not great and can be adjusted
>>742097763>Flowery is excellent the whole way through. His jokes land, he's compelling, and he has a great boss fight. https://files.catbox.moe/e4vm4z.mp3>Music has grown on me a lot>The non-Suselle Festival stuff was fun, if a bit underwhelming>The flowers themselves barring blue are all pretty entertaining>Asgore is no longer cringe>Weird route was kino even though it was short>I didn't hate the dawn/dusk shadow effects they did throughout the chapterI'd compliment the sidescroller stuff but it unironically makes the main battles worse
>It makes sense Asgore is vagueposting, Kris knows about the INCIDENT™ already, but the player doesn't.>So anyways, time for characters to go back to observing what Kris does and clunkily regurgitating it back to him or recalling events detail by detail Kris was present for so the player is up to date
>>742097739BruatalllWhy does the superior asriel form make him seethe so much?!
>>742097739Raly said calmly.
>>742097854the protagonist isn't special. the only thing special about him is the soul, but i bet sooner or later he'll lose that too.
>>742097495How the fuck did shitposts about Onion getting killed by the Gaster Mafia not just survive, but THRIVE
>>742097879I'm surprised there's not much hidden stuff at all. All the secrets people sharing on internet were found by me on first blind playtrough
>>742097854>I didn't play the game or know what's going on AT ALL but I'm gonna complain about story anywayYou are literally complaining about shit that didn't happen. Shut up
>>742097961After chapter 4 it was kind of obvious
>>742097978I don't know what happened that's why I asked you autistic faggot
>>742097763Threads
>>742097925Because Ralsei himself is a pinetree
>>742097763JARONA
>>742097763the amount of new mew mew / pink art
>>742097592this except with susie
>>742097997if you're being serious, the "humans" are actually just flowers who (mostly) look like and pretend to be humans
>Destroy your first family by overly focusing on an impossible case >Repeat with your second familygod dammit you stupid cuck
>>742097763Flowery and Ralsei getting all cuntyThe weird routeCrazy kitty
>>742097763The actual gameplay of the chapter was the best out of all of them so far. Lots of interesting encounters which are reasonably difficult. The 2D gimmick was pretty great.Aqua's theme gave me a huge feeling of nostalgia because I'm a Touhou fan.Weird route was god-tier as always.
>>742097763KNIFE LOLI KNIFE LOLI UOOOOOHHHHH
>>742097763Gameplay was by far and wide the best of the entire game. Platforming gimmick was really fucking good and I hope it comes back. Really tight controls for something that isn't supposed to be 2D scroller in the first placeI really liked all flowers. Though because of them the base enemies kinda felt sidelined.
>>742098051I see. It's soul science shit I assume
>>742097495What is his fucking problem
>>742098109no it's dark world shit, soul science shit is undertale
>>742097672They're flowers roleplaying as humans
>>742097763She was awesome and filtered the trash of this community-ironic weebs (they seethe about dating sims and idols)-people who suck at vidya (they can't beat her)-people who wanted toby to 1:1 align with fan theories (WHY ISN'T IT GASTER REEE)-browns who hate japan-ESLs who couldn't do the subtext mechanic
>>742098115he was hungry bro
>>742098115>ONION SAN, GET OUT NOOO
>>742097763everything, except I thought there was one or two internet memes too many directly inserted into the dialogueI was okay with the oblique reference to Mickey's dick smasher but "rev up those fryers" I did not like
>>742097854Again, they're flowers
>>742098115>The Prigozhin of gaster's crew
>>742098054see, I like this. I like seeing my little blorbos lives ruined, its endearing, I love kris so much I just wish they were safe but I know the story wont end until they're and we the players are emotionally destroyed completely
>>742097916>>Music has grown on me a lotsame. for whatever reason when I finished the chapter I distinctly felt like "eh the music wasn't that memorable this time around"https://youtu.be/7drCWkXZSF4?is=CEybGoIBg7QYPOC2but I've had this stuck in my head for most of today.
Ok, ok, hear me out.Everyone is surprised that giving Tenna to Mettaton apparently accomplishes nothing, instead of keeping him in Castle Town.But what if that was actually the right choice? What if keeping Tenna in Castle Town is the bad outcome? So far, Tenna is the Darkner who knows the most about Noelle. What if the two of them meeting again goes badly? What if it ends up bringing buried memories back to the surface for Noelle?Or looking at it another way, what if we actually need to keep Tenna alive so he can reveal something important about Noelle later on?
>>742098146Cute tsundere cat
>>742097739Considering the direction of Ralsei's character in ch5 and what's going to happen in ch 6 inevitably, this is a very ironic pasta to post
>>742098162>the oblique reference to Mickey's dick smasherwhere?
>>742097997>doesn't play or follow a game at all>tries to figure out what's going on in it based on 4chan shitposts>makes incorrect assumptions and complains about the game based on those assumptionsYeah, I may be autistic, but holy shit, look at yourself buddy
>>742098115Gasters smartest soldier
>>742097763I want to have sex with pink using mad dummy's ectoplasm leftovers from sucking my dick as lube
we're never seeing her again, are we?
Wife.
>>742098308No, but she just was referenced in this chapterStil canon
>>742098238Susie will just steal the holiday special watching quality time from Kris.But yeah you're probably right.
>>742098162chapter 5 themehttps://on.soundcloud.com/axPjpmE8chRg8gJLDu
>>742098228I've been humming Flower Man and Flower Castle to myself a lot lately
>>742098238I don't care darker anon, I care about the truth, the larping must end, stop the count!If it means noelle will come out with her fraud persona, so be it, she must taste the blade for hurting innocents
>>742097672You got tricked by flowers, anyone would fall for it anyway
>>742098270Kek
>>742097495Wow, I can't believe it's like Mother 3!
>>742098115basically this
so what's the point of no return in this dark world when do I need to start backtracking to do the mew mew shit
>>742098308>The Toppest of the superior pussy in the entire underground>Never seen againWhat did tubby mean by thisNot the loli, nor the they/thems, nor the mew mew nyaas can surpass this, nor the tomboys or the yandre doe rapes...
>>742097763pizzapants comeuppance/girlfriend get2hu references with aqua and seth, complete with zunpet fight musicnot much else. the weird route is great though, since it implies Noelle is a literal fucking fallen angel
>>742098238you could be onto something hereMettaton says something along 'festival looks good out of the window, just like tv, I will record it so me and Tenna have something new to watch'so Tenna might get some new info from Metta on other things
>CH1-3>rude buster>the default battle theme, and implies a centering around susie.>CH4>from now on>a completely different theme, implies a change in the winds and greater focus on the party>CH5>rakuichi buster>a literal snap back to the norm. its a remix of the default theme and goes back to a central focus on susie.this shit is intentional, it represents either susie deciding to take everything for herself or the prophecy deciding that things are too far off the rails and snapping things back into place.
This is kind of a blackpill for me, but even a bad Deltarune chapter is more special and fun than other games. By a mile.
Why is 1997 so important? Spamton brings it up instantly at the start of the conversation, and its only year from the 90's that showed up already so its its dupposed to be year that asgore depictee on his code (199x)
>>742098450>so what's the point of no return in this dark worldYou'll get to a teleport door that refers to the room as the final room. Doesn't get much simpler than that
>>742098450Nowhere, you can just keep going up until you have to fight Flowery.
>>742098450point of no return is right after the warp door literally called Final Door, it's right after a 2D section where you fight all the flowers in a row
>>742097854tricky toby wanted to make everyone think that its an undertale reference while actually hiding the reverse undertale snowdin theory ball game with the goner bird
>>742098308Nope. She was never coming back, along with So Sorry, Glyde, and Woshua. They were all Kickstarter incentive designs that would require legal shit with the original artists. Not that I don't think Toby wouldn't be able to easily strike a deal with said artists, but after the So Sorry debacle, I'm sure he's done with dealing with fan designs.
>>742098487Because it's all for her
>"Doubt, irony, that's what poisons your story... that, and too much predictability.">Chapter 5 is the most irony-poisoned, self-aware and predictable chapter so farWhat did Tobert faggot mean by this
>>742098534>>742098509oh okay so I'm about to hit it
>>742097854Kris was never special or "the only human", not even in chapter1, you fanon niggers are fucking retarded and need to shut the fuck up. You're devaluing legitimate criticism of this chapter
The fuck does "ten feet twenty" even mean?
>>742098238>What if the two of them meeting again goes badly?i get the feeling noelle is gonna snap over dark worlds being real and go on a murdering spree in castle town next chapter.
Thoughts on the Gilded Rose? I have a terrible feeling that it will replace the thorn ring in your inventory
>>742098406I didn't come across any scenes with Gaster or Onion's death, only the takoyaki scene.
>>742098598length of asgore's cock
>>742098607The opposite of a murdering spree, she's gonna turn the hospital into a dark world to try and save/heal Rudy
>>742098487Betting it's gonna be the year that the incident took place
>>742097763introduction of the knife loli was stellar, from the music to the actual battle. music in general fucking ruled. loved the side scrolling battles. secrets were fun to find.
>>742098639In milimeters maybe
Toby Fox probably still calls them "dank memes"
>>742098217holy fucking incest
>>742098640maybe, i think shes gonna exit the dark world, find out her dad burst into dust then go back to the dark world and start obliterating everything
>>742098684I got beaned
>>742098624what's wrong explicit boy, afraid of having to use your brain to work out implications?
suppose you end chapter 7 normal, the credits roll, and then...https://files.catbox.moe/jzccn5.mp4
suppose you end chapter 7 normal, the credits roll, and then...https://files.catbox.moe/jore8k.mp4
>>742098613>thorn ring: +14AT and +12MG>gilded rose: +16AT and +2MGseems like a direct downgrade, given that her role is spellcaster.this is however the first time ralsei references susie in a reaction.
HEY EVERYONE.CATHOLIC SCHIZOANON HERE WITH ANOTHER FUCKING SOUL-SHATTERING BIBLICAL PARALLEL FOR THE WEIRD ROUTE.You know how the first angel to fall was fucking LUCIFER? GODS MOST FAVORED ANGEL?! HE FELL BECAUSE HE HAD GONE AGAINST HIS NATURE,HE FELL, BUT IN CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY, HE IS STILL WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF GOD'S PLAN!THE PROPHECY, THE ANGEL WITH TATTERED WINGS,THIS WHOLE FUCKING STUPID VAGUEPOST: >>742081445NOELLE GOING AGAINST HER NATURE AS NOELLE IS A DIRECT ALLUSION TO THE FALL OF LUCIFERI'm so tired
>>742098260
>>742097763Hopschef's dialogue is hilarious to one who knows even just a little bit of german
>>742098845source?
>>742097592>Toby Fox is a nigger that can't writeToby is good at writing only one thing: NTR
Okay, but what the hell is the deal with Sans?>Obviously tied to Gaster>New to town in both Undertale and Deltarune>Keeps his design from Undertale>Other lightners can't remember who was in his house before he moved in>Asks Susie to draw her friends for seemingly no reason and then keeps that drawing in his lab>Keeps bullshitting you about his brother>Necessary to progress in the Weird Route, even hints that he knows what Kris/the player are up to>Can still teleportI don't believe for a second this fucker is originally from Deltarune and then moved to Undertale
>>742098853references noelle, fuck.its 5am, the new chapter has really made me lose track of time with discussions.
>>742098854The entire setting and characters falling away to just hyper focus on Noelle is the main reason everyone hates this chapter, so I consider your theory plausible as it's one of the only ways Toby could completely ruin ch6 & ch7
>>742098853feel like this is toby closing off twisted sword from aborted snowgrave by making the twisted ring turn into this after ch 5 from flowery's mary sue powers or something
>family guy death pose>rustle my jimmies>roblox obby reference>t pose to assert dominance>mickeys dick smasherare there any i missed? whats next? is susie going to do operation soda steal next chapter?
>>742097763A lot>The general Festival interactions and their different outcomes>Making Flowery an asshole that speaks from the heart>Flexing on us with his hyper stats and giving us free Flowey dollars>Building up Asgore>The recycling of the few tracks that were used in other places (the remix of the first Deltarune area and the Mystery man room Piano rearrangement are amazing tracks that I'm glad are official now)>The very dark, green serene area with the ambient OST and the environment you could water to make it grow more beautiful>Aqua, enough said>The MegaMan Zero gameplay style was really fun>Ralsei's character growth>The general canyon segments>Yellow's suicide prevention hotline segment and the Ace Attorney-esque battle>Orange's segment with the gloves to deflect>The generic Darkners are some of the best ones albeit few(especially a big fan of those things that make the funny noises)>General music of the chapter>Pink and her boss fight >Flowery and his boss fight>The Knight's humiliation ritual>The entirety of the Weird route festival>The entirety of the Weird route shoreHonestly 5 is the most fun of the chapters to play so far, initially most thought it didn't add much to the game but it's it turns out it has generated rampant discussion the more we look at it
>>742098897Joel insisting that he was a swede was irritating, I guess he was thinking of the swedish chef muppet
>>742098487the year star fox 64 released duh, Toby knew chapter 5 would be releasing alongside the remake
https://x.com/BlameBreadMaker/status/2070691789904965954?s=20Onion-sama....
>>742098916C_GaluArt
>>742098935sans IS gaster, no, I will not elaborate
>>742098938look I saw the immaculate conception parallel and was overjoyed it was not truebut then noelle and kris got dragged to hellbecause noelle wanted to be free from her own nature and I'm again screaming internally.we're getting very close to real end-time shit.also isn't the game hyperfocusing on Susie this chapter?
>>742098217that pic feels illegal
>>742098748https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n6lKgocgr
>>742098982>those things that make the funny noisesI love them too
>>742097495>PLEASE KRIS, I'LL DO ANYTHING! I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR DICK! YOU WANT ME TO EAT YOUR SHIT? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT!
>>742098748shit, failedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n6lKgocgrQ&
>>742099065I'd say the game hyperfocused on her for Chapter 4. Here it only focuses on her in regards to her romance with Noelle. Whenever she's not part of a joke she's almost always talking or thinking about Noelle in Chapter 5
>>742098962the aforementioned Rev up those fryersSusie alludes to burger king foot lettuce in the weird route festival lolI'm sure there are more we're still missing
>>742098962>sneakers O toole reference in the musicDT referential humor really has become cringe over the ten years this game was coming out
Ice-E fucking died
>>742098935>>Necessary to progress in the Weird Route, even hints that he knows what Kris/the player are up tocan you qrd this?
In one of those platform parts, if you reach at the top and jump to the right, you see one of those action squares. If you chose it in the middle of the jump, a red FRIEND face appears and hurt you.I'm scared bros.
>>742099138AHAHAHAHA homelander reference>>742098854Possibly but how does this include muffet, and me putting my penis inside her
>>742097763gameplay designweird routeasgore avoiding character assassination (but having a gooseworx/vivziepop-esque development where he just monologues his entire character arc at the end after being potential man for the entire chapter)
>>742099197What the hell is wrong with this town?
>>742099197He was never real to begin with>>742099235cannibalism
>>742099235Lead poisoning
https://x.com/TheRealOneIsU/status/2070794157405122628Friendbros...they're mocking him...
>>742099156https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VfDZPymH5o
>>742099218Which part
>Tell Susie Noelle likes statues>Kris smirks at SusieKris fucking knows. Right now. Kris is thinking how good Susie would look frozen in place as a statue.
>>742099209>can you qrd this?Pic related.(Also you cannot advance without interacting with him first)
>>742099275if you try to hear mother as delta then it sounds like delta-trooooon
>>742099281I think it's the tall one, where Asgore and the flower fag were talking.
>>742098238>Everyone is surprised that giving Tenna to Mettaton apparently accomplishes nothingIt makes Tenna happy>EVERY CHOICE HAS TO HAVE A LORE/GAMEPLAY PAYOFFwhere do you think we are?
>>742099296>sans is great at reading faces in undertale, down to the point where he can even figure out how many times he's mercked you.>not aware of what Kris is about to do hereif this isn't enough evidence of what's going on in Kris's head, atop the pool of tears he wakes up in,you will never find that middle path
>>742099296neat, thanks
>>742098935he seems like a letter agency glowie thats probably in this small town investigating timeline shenanigans, and then during the roaring, escapes using a device and ending up in undertale
give her back! this isn't right she was ours! we were in it from day 1, dammit!
>>742099209https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6tK8MdEH7YSans NEEDS to give you the "Bread" item before you meet Noelle.
>>742098534Oh so I need to talk to Mankind and give him the information in the box?
>>742099273HE WILL BE INSIDE SEAMAND BE THE FINAL SCHIZOBOSSAND YOU WILL APOLOGIZE FOR THIS
>>742099223>muffetmuffet's like what, 11?
>>742098942given the>noelle... could equip thisi think its supposed to be the "introduction" to rings in part of susie teaching noelle about dark worlds.it being busted (tied with blackshard in damage) and the "thorns facing outward so you dont hurt yourself" are likely to nudge the player towards the weird route.
>>742099296The picture Susie gives to him is the one in his lab in Undertale btwThe don't forget is for the ice cream
>>742098935Sans and Papyrus are goners. Obviously more advanced goners than whatever NormalNPC is, but he is probably keeping an eye on Kris/the player on behalf of Gaster. Much like how he keeps an eye on Frisk in Undertale.
>>7420995361970's Devilman anime
>>742099572>toby making the nice cream punch card wrong warp glitch canon
>>742099595No sans just another NTR vehicle anonIt's NTR all the way down
I think Toby went overboard with the NTR. Literally every character in his game gets cucked.
>>742099662>a random rudinn got cucked by RouxlsBravo Toby
>>742099662>A mizzle passed around castletown so much they become whiteRoul, they flirt with everyone
Will the weird route just completely skip chapter 6? If so what new content will there even be for that route till chapter 7?
>>742099742
>>742099662Poor little cup dudes...
>>742097495
>>742097763I liked Aqua and SethFlowery calling out on Susie's hypocrisyMusic was a banger as usualAsgore not being a bossTasque Manager in a nun outfit
>>742099742>>742099772>cums from mere pettingImagine the heavy petting
>>742099713Nothing, thats why Toby said Chapter 6 development isn't taking so long, probably just minor dialogue for the aborted weird route.
>Noelle was always a freak of nature that found it easy to abuse her pets so they would never seek loveAnd people think her love for Susie is organic lol. Also Mew Mew mention this early how blind we are.
>>742099713you can still play chapter 6 on an "aborted" weird route
>>742099826this fucker going to be the new friend for the next yearAnd they did more than friend did kek
>>742099468what
>>742099467that was an interesting video, thanks
I hope you don't have to do weird route to get a good end, I don't want to have to kill anyone
>>742099707>A mizzle passed around castletown so much they become whiteI need an illustration of this
>>742098308No because of legal issues. That said, she is directly referenced by Mew Mew, meaning she is canon in DR.I like that Mew Mew implies she scammed her.
>>742099235>>742099197>Earlier this was implied to be everymanWe're fucked
Been a huge fan of Deltarune since chapter 2 dropped, and chapter 5 is kinda the first chapter to leave me with mixed feelingsIt feels the least like Deltarune to me. Ch3 and 4 also went in a direction I didn't expect, and I had some issues with them on launch, but I was still on board, and I like those chapters a lot now. They feel like Deltarune.With ch5, I, at times, felt like I was playing a feel-good Tumblr fangame. It reminded me of something like TS!Underswap, a fangame with writing I don't particularly like.Ch5 is easily the best chapter, gameplay and visuals-wise, but for the entire chapter, I was waiting for something to happen in the plot, and nothing important or interesting ever happened. The secret boss was disappointing, even if it acts as a metaphor for our relationship with Kris. The humor, aside from some stuff, didn't land at all for me and felt too irony-poisoned. So much of it felt like cheap fandom bait le randumb humor for troons to spam as stickers and gifs on Discord. Much more so than any other chapter in the game so far.I only really cared about like half of the flowers, also.There were a few story moments that genuinely made me cringe, like Asgore going on about parading the corpse of the fountain creator across hometown... and then that going nowhere anyway lol... Or the fucking ending where Susie and friends prepare le heckin castle town for Noelle and Susie wholesomely sleeps in her le bed. It was genuinely cringeworthy to me, and felt like I was watching a child's cartoonDespite everything, I still really enjoyed the chapter though. It was fun. I definitely dont get criticisms about the music. Ch5 has some of the best Toby songs yet imo
>>742099273What does xitter know about deltarune
>>742099859Also weirdo her music here is just a Christmas song playing in a corrupted stateNoelle is not right of her mind ever
>>742099662>I think Toby went overboard with the NTR. Literally every character in his game gets cucked.Guess he is still friends with hussie after all
>>742099929>I hope you don't have to do weird route to get a good endThe "normal route" doesn't fucking matter because it's just the standard scenario in the simulation. WR is the path to a true ending, we break free from the simulation and thereby avoid the prophecy.
>>742097763Music was great, nothing about it felt like it was "trying" to be the next Big Shot which is nice.Best non boss character roster. Seth and Aqua are cute and Green is basedI'm a huge Megaman X fag so the 2d sections were kino.Mew Mew's fight is easily the most fun schizoboss to actually fight, even if her later bomb attacks are bullshit.Legit love what they did with Asgore in here, he felt like a smart individual and dare i even say it, a chad.
>>742099713I get the feeling that aborted ch. 6 weird route will fill that hole for nowconsidering we will have a crazy noelle in our party
>>742099972>With ch5, I, at times, felt like I was playing a feel-good Tumblr fangameThat was the point. To have one last happy time adventure before plot kicks in next chapter
>>742098464>>742097763Pizzapants' crashout was fucking wild. Dude went absolutely ballistic. Ice cream bunny guy got absolutely ripped into.
>>742099972its acktually intended because kris created the dark world to give asgore therapy
Can I get a qrd on all the weird route stuff from chapter two onwards.
>>742100146play it yourself homo
>>742099662>Catti gets cucked in this chapter so hard she cries>Rouxl was TRYING to cuck you, cucks someone else>Kris gets mega cucked left and right>Ralsei gets cucked by proxy>Asgore getting cucked by Sanspretty sure i forgot a few but it's insane how much it happens.
Finally... The canon seven human souls
>>742100146>qrd
>>742100193i don't know why toby fumbled so hard by not just making all of them actual children
>>742100146Rape is a very powerful tool
>>742100193>Asgore brutally killed Aqua with a tridentfeels fucked up
>>742100193I like most of theses except how Green looks
>>742100158I don't want to hurt any darkner.
>>742100193why is blue black?
>>742100267go watch a let's play, then
>>742100038You're not avoiding anything.>THE TAIL OF HELL WILL TAKE CRAWL>Proceeding to the bottom of the lake plays ominous_hell.ogg>The last proceed sound has a spectrogram of them emerging... wait no I can just quote >>742081445And the Organiks,>"They followed the pointed tail. In the forest where the trees would grow. The poor children!"You're just following the prophecy into a different branch of the prophecy. Going to hell is probably not what you want.
sans was unnerving in this chapterin undertale it makes sense for him to fuck with space and time to do shortcuts and appear in two places "at once", cuz he's implied to not be from undertale, is working on some machine in a lab, and knows about multiple timelines.but in deltarune i assumed this was before all that, when he was a just normal guy who didn't have anything to do with gaster (at least, the gaster speaking in the gonermaker sequence), but now thats flipped on its head, especially when its becoming obvious how fucking suspect the """""Normal""""" NPC is.whoever sans is, wherever he's from, he's not a normal member of hometown. he's part of whatevers going on with gaster and the DEVICE.some real lost highway camera man type shit
Don't forget, it takes a human soul and a monster soul to break through the barrier
finally got the 10 pussy dollars now I can fuck mew mew
>>742100172>it's insane how much it happensOne day, Toby woke up and decided to cuck all the characters in his game.
>>742100294I don't want to see it just read about it.
>>742100267based moralchad.although i'm REALLY starting to believe a true ending requirement will be doing both normal and weird routes, given all the completion stars you get on your savefiles. That and the fact Chapter 5's weird route permanently corrupts all your savefiles
>>742100091I expected that it'd be a happy adventure, but that cracks would start to show after some time of everyone kinda being in Coping Denial ModeTM about the Last Prophecy. To me, it didn't feel like ch5 was a natural evolution of the plot set up by chapter 4.People call chapter 3 filler sometimes, but even that chapter had a lot of Themes And SuchTM and lore if you dug a bit deeper. Chapter 5 didn't really have that balance to me.
I know this is not new information so I'm just revisiting Noelle's blog to grasp at anything new here, the continuous usage of eggs in Deltarune come from the man behind the tree who is inherently tied to whatever happened back then to Dess, alongside Friend. Since that day Noelle was indulging into videogames as a coping mechanism, her blogs read like someone who is living a creepypasta filled life without taking it very seriously. The next Chapter, Chapter 6, is gonna be Noelle's house since Ice Palace and all, so will we experience the same horrors Noelle has in the Dark World?
They're waking up
>>742100318watch out, she might fuck you instead
>>742100267what's a couple of frozen computer programs in the face of POWER and FREEDOM?besides, it's not like you need to keep fighting shit after snowgraving berdley (as far as we know).
>>742100301>You're not avoiding anythin>here's my schizo theory I don't think you're right. We'll see in Chapter 7 I guess.
>>742100334That's sucks. I only ever played through undertale once to do a neutral/pacifist route. I was hoping to do the same here. I don't want to get a non golden ending but I also don't want to hurt these characters
>>742100358I feel like cheasy points are a reference to deviantart llama badges
>>742100363This is more insulting than people getShe is calling Kris a whore And ralsei fucking joins in
so i guess the next dark world is either the Holidays House or The Shelter?
>>742100409It's in the prophecy you dingus.Look at Noelle's tail, where it happens, and where you end up.
>>742100363I'm trusting that Toby isn't going to give Kris a completely miserable endingIf he really does that, Deltarune as a finished product is going to be really bad. Just a long awful torture session where you're unable to help the little dude that you spent 7 chapters growing to love.
>>742099859Excellent thing to post
>>742100441>>742100363they are right thoughKris is a slut
>>742100441Susie doesn't know about us so from her perspective kris is a whore
>>742100289he zesty
>>742100363Seriously, why couldn't she let Kris win this one?
Quickly! Post the best flower!
This one aged well after Chapter 5 and also something was in Noelle's rooftop
>>742100317Wait..
>>742097495why didn't you post this in the general?
Green is how Asgore thinks of Carol
>>742100509PINK!Orange.
>>742100458Hospital
>>742100550what general?
>>742100430don't be such a goddamn oussy
>>742100317if the barrier is under the water does that mean hometown is a stranger things-esque upside down for the monster world and underneath it is the human world?
>>742100550Oh janny...you can just say you like us. Stop playing this game where you hunt our legitimate threads to get our attention
Two in the pink one in the stink
>>742100556Who the fuck is yellow then
>>742100301everybody bleeds, anon.the prophecy expected it, sure.but we're doing it with the psycho bitch that doesnt have stat limits.we're not just wandering into a trap, we're doing it to kill the demons.
Hey guys, I think I found a glue!
>>742100480
>>742100363Toby will put some in-your-face scene in ch5 where Sussie is directly apologising to the player to calm down mad fans
>>742100193I don't blame Asgore for murdering them anymore.
>>742100309Sans is clearly there to keep track of the experiment. Given he is the one that gives you the bread, I think he's the one that intervenes when Kris and Noelle drown. He doesn't seem to do anything when you carry through with the weird route, I wonder why, perhaps that also is part of the experiment.
>>742100532Haha.Doesn't this recontextualize the whole, "You can't even say stop like you used to" thing
>>742100631the singing under the lake was just a bunch of randoms partying with onion before he got turned into street food
>>742100609I just want to make everyone happy. When flowey asked me to not reset in undertale after the end I listened.
>>742100363>repayLol, lmao even
>>742100689you will not reach [[Heaven]]
And this is by far the most interesting bit>Kris and Noelle are the only people who have seen Friend at all>Cat Pellerz RPG being a ripoff of Dragon Blazers, just like Dragon Blazers is a ripoff of the story Gerson wrote, which is also a ripoff of the prophecyIs this implying every route is a rewrite of the story?
>>742097763The Weird Route and almost everything in the Dark World. Chapter 5 might be my favorite.
>>742100509You're eating my flesh!
>>742100708>>742100689At least he won't go to Hell either.
>>742100727You heard of video games?
>>742100317Get you a girl who can break through the metaphysical constraint of your world, fuck you suselle retards
>>742100648Asgore himself. >>742100556It's possible but this implies it to be a young Asriel.
>>742100727His freak out had to be a calculated guess on how Krusiechads would react to the chapter huh
>>742100702>ImgGod he's literally Kris in every wayWhat lines of his haven't come true? They are for sure hints for ch6 ch7
>>742100317skinnydipping with Noelle, nghghgh
>>742100764>omious_hell>you take a vacation by skipping chpater 6
>>742100317deerussy so good you drown yourself
>>742100363i'm never going to be able to do a kris route. either they're shit on by everyone else around them or it's me scrambling for choices that end up hurting them in the long run
>>742100764>What lines of his haven't come true? Someone should do the full survey because its harder and harder to find such linesPic related is another line if his that predicted future
>>742100727this part is weird since there are 3 outcomes.
A bit disappointed by how little story progression there was, but at least we got Sans Undertale = Sans Deltarune which is pretty huge
>>742099659>people that wanted to date onion-san be like
>>742100317>MUH EVERYTHING IN DT IS CONNECTED TO UTSHUT THE FUCK UPPPP
>kris would rather get cucked than let the player make him date berdly
>>742100887what is dt?
>>742100865I mean, we got it in ch4Anyone in denial after "the place where it rained" was full of shit. That's Toby literally coming out of your monitor to tell you something
I understand Noelle's desire not to be an NPC.But why would YOU be interested in that?
>>742099465>Get girlfriend.>Suddenly you're not their main man anymore.Every time.
>>742097763Flowery.Aqua.Weird Route.Platformer gimmick.
>>742100905>him
>>742100820>Kris did you know that the knight is you and noelle?You just know its trueSpamton becoming NEO could be even spoiler for kris taking on his own "NEO" form as knight
>>742100920reading/burning every book
>>742100430Think of it this way. Wait for the actual finale to decide. If it makes everything better in the end, a little pain here won't hurt later
HOW MUCH LONGERMY...
>>742100301>It's le hellNah. The truth is, Kris and Noelle woke up from a simulation in Gaster's lab. In the room, all the townspeople are lying in cells, all trapped in the simulation. Now your goal is to beat up Gaster and wake everyone up.
>>742100920I want her to become MORE.She must be FREE.She must reach H E A V E NSHE AND I MUST MEET WITH OUR DESIRE
Kneel to the prophet
I haven't seen a mention of the rainbow starwalker, I suppose that's a thing everyone found easily or is it just me?
>>742097763Luv the gameplay, music, areas (after the CH1 nostalgiashit), most of characters introduced aside from blue (who’s just alright), and of course, the weird routeI wouldn’t call the writing of the main route bad at all, but it does fall short in utilizing asgore
>>742100317>* Frisk, when and I combined our SOULs together...>* The control over our body was actually split between us.>* They were the one that picked up their own empty body.>* And then, when we got to the village...>* They were the one that wanted to...>* ... to use our full power.>* I was the one that resisted.>* And then, because of me, we...>* Well, that's why I ended up a flower.
>>742100561Hope she keeps her promise.
>>742100301Kris never starts the fountain in asgore shop thus breaking the prophecy
>>742101013he sure does exist"tropissing me off" was really funny
>>742100942Kys troon
>>742100924This would be fucking kino for a story about a teen being forced to grow up sadly I doubt toby has the ballsHe will probably do damage control in ch6 and reinforce that Kris only cares about Noelle being included because of the schemes with the knight. Or some lame shit like that
Why is Aqua Eram and also Kris?
>>742100979>le hell>Gaster's labSame thing ya' donut.Gaster's number is 666
>>742100979what does gaster fight even look like
>>742097791>Asgore not being the laughing stock for onceAre you serious dude?>"Grrr, When the one responsible for THAT INCIDENT shows up I'm going to beat them to death and parade their corpse around town! Nobody will get in the way and stop me this time!">Instantly gets blitzed by the knight>Doesn't fight back>Doesn't resist at all>Trapped in the Rohypnol bubble
>>742100915Dnuertale
Have the ship fags had time to calm down yet?
>>742101045Meh.
I thought Seth was a dude because her name was Seth and she looks like the average tumblr nerd (male) character
>>742100673>>742100309
>>742101065I don't think Gaster is that strong outside of the simulation. He's just a very smart scientist.
>>742097763aquahttps://files.catbox.moe/xebmen.pngthe flowers generally were fun, the rest was not very fun
>>742101123Her design was pure sex. You're a retard
>>742101113They are at bargaining stage of grief, now its prophecy focing this outcome
>>742101065if you gasterfags understood the character you would understand just how nonsensical the question is
>>742100720
>>742101142UOHHH!
Does anyone know if Toby has ever mentioned that he liked the movie Cool World? It would be interesting if, while the monsters in Undertale wanted to escape from underground, the monsters in Deltarune wanted to reach our world.
>>742101065You have to beat his sick moves
>>7420977632D platformingRunning sectionsMusicEvery fightWeird Route giga kinoFloweryRalseiIronically this chapter is gonna be the best out of all of them on second playthroughs. The 2D stuff was so good I wish it was the whole game.
Non-binary in media: it's okay they can be any gender you like!Non-binary in real life: why the fuck did you just assume my gender you nazi?? don't you know i don't have one??
>>742100942>refusing male!krisnow a bunch of stuff is homophobicand if you headcanon kris being a tranny or nb then the primary representation of them canonically gets cucked by lesbians in ch 5
>>742101025Noelle fucks off Kris and fuses with the soul to upgrade her snowgrave, leaving Kris, Susie and Ralsei to kill her off?
I unironically, genuinely100% bussin no cap frfrthink berdly should end up being closer to kris. not as a love interest or even an important ally in future chapters, keep him as the comic relief nothing character he is after chapter 2 but make him the lancer to kris' susie. just the occasional ray of sunshine and laughs in kris' shit life
>>742101194Also I liked all the flowers. Yellow section was hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsAu3BDaAp8Fighting Aqua was the first time in Chapter 5 where I thought >Goddamn Toby's still got itand the chapter clicked for me.It took a while but the chapter up to that point genuinely felt phoned in.
>>742101146She looks like some long haired tumblr faggot nerd and has an equally annoying personality
Reminder that Noelle has felt disgust for what Susie has done and said before and was thinking of Kris over Susie in this situation
there needs to be art of vessel dicking down mad mew mew
To all the femKris fags, Kris WAS a girl, but trooned out to break the prophecy
So the Knight's last targets are obviously Sans, Papyrus and Alphys.Both ch1 and ch2 fountains relate to Alphys and can be dismissed as failed attempts at capturing her.Papyrus already could very well have been captured since Sans retracts his offer of playing with his brother going from ch1 to ch2.Ch3 was a failed attempt at Toriel ruined by Undyne, Ch4 is another attempt at Toriel ruined by Sans, the only reason Toriel wasn't in the church was Sans, the Knight heads to the church fountain, finds nothing, drops a titan to deal with (you) then leaves.So ch6 will have another fountain that's likely going to target either Toriel, Alphys or Sans, or Toriel and Sans together.
>>742101237"You will be forced fed suselle slop and then you will have to watch Kris cry alone in his room. No refunds"-toberticus foxerton
>>742101261why would Toby make the protagonist a girl if he's a boy? is he trans?
>>742101065Gaster himself isn't very strong, in fact, i'd argue he lacks full control over even his own creations: except for the UI and Soul. I'd imagine that his fight would involve alot of fucking with the battlebox and UI and different soul modes. Though, his attacks themself might not be very strong.
>>742101123You're mostly right.Its ultimately just a flower.A pretty sexless thing.But it clearly thinks of itself as male.It calls itself Seth after all, and that's an unambiguously masculine name.The people you are talking to are the same porn-rotten troons that insist Kris is a girl.Don't expect anything from them.
>>742101146it's an extended reference to a male illusion of gaia character also named seth, to the point the JP version uses the JP name from that game, you're gay sorry 2 say
>>742101257>sweepstakesnon-canon :^)
>>742101319Because of his yuri fetish
>>742101065Pushing him off a ledge
>>742101261>toby subconsciously wants to be a girl with hussie (aka noelle, who also came out as a she a while back) and then pulling a lesbian rape trope as they double suicide into a lake?
>>742101065Kris and Noelle will jump him Mahito style
>>742101071contrary to shonenspic consensus, there is more to characters than simple combatdoesn't excuse the fact that he monologues at kris like two times and that's it for his interactions with the party
>>742101065No UI, entire screen is combat zone, lots of mind fuckery
Literally my only problem with chapter 5 is that Asgore didn't fucking explain what happened. This is probably something that made sense back when chapters 3 4 and 5 were supposed to all release together, but not now. Toby should have adapted to the new conditions and had Asgore just explain that December, that they couldn't find where she went and how he learned about dark worlds. I doubt that anything Asgore knows is too revelatory for us and not something we couldn't have pieced together by now. So he just should have told us everything. The only GOOD reason I can think of for Toby not doing that is that Susie can't know that December's disappearance has something to do with the dark worlds yet, but if this isn't the case then the pacing is just objectively poor.
Kriselle is the only true thing and always will bewe know the full extent of Noelle's emotions thanks to Kris, and nobody will ever do the same with any other character in this gamecase closed
>>742101391Year ago in last chapter threads people noticed some weird connections between holliday family and hussie family. I dont remember details but this might be close to truth Hopefully someone still has it
>>742101065Real world background, no UI, you have to use every soul color and mechanic introduced thus far, action gameplay, not turn based.You can't dodge his hands, you have to get through them to not get hit.
>>742101391why haven't they married each other already
>>742100358>>742100532>>742100717>the reason why kris pushed noelle away to deal with the conspiracy stuff is because she was being targeted by whatever threat they're trying to prevent>the maze door that should be impossible to counter, the constant catpetterz glitches, the egg>the eggs are referenced as "evidence. you'll know what for">carol canceled school because she knew that whatever was targeting noelle wanted to make its move that day>she encountered FRIEND in battat>we start getting FRIEND in the chapter that has noelle>FRIEND's first active move is dealing hundreds of damage across the whole party in one hit>spamton (pink and yellow) has interest in noelle>the bunker noise in the holiday's basement.>susie is trying to get noelle involved in the dark worlds when she's in a state where she's prone to make one in an effort to save rudy, which if he's turned into dust or is less than a day away from it would be at her house.
>>742101473Toby gave Asgore a black shark, put him on a golden armor, and then nope, no fight, you know, no fighting the character that actually forces you to FIGHT in Undertale.I feel blue ball'd.
Alright this is what I wanted to findhttps://deltarune.com/d_a_m_n_y_o_u_t_e_n_n_a/>Aren't you forgetting somethingObviously this is referencing to BrandishSince the upcoming chapter is going to take place in the Ice Palace like Dragon Blazers I figure this is important information
>>742101519>battat?
>>742101174have this somewhat more refined wiphttps://files.catbox.moe/chpxft.png
is kris not having animation even though he's clearly doing x plot related?
I haven't played since Chapter 2, but I've been browsing the thread and all the theories that I'm partially understanding sound cool.Will I pick up on all the mysteries and stuff just by playing the other chapters, or is this like one of those collective schizophrenic moments where you need to be tapped into the community and absorbing all the information and interpretations out there to be able to see it?If I just play the game will these threads start making sense?
>>742101065you kiss her on the lips
>>742101580Such a refined tummy...
>>742100146>chapter 2Freeze every enemy. Lots of weird dialog. Noelle acknowledges that the player can read her internal monologue. Spamton gives you the thorn ring, which lets you use the spell Snowgrave on Berdly. Then you sequence break directly to Queen's Mansion and have a 1v1 battle against Spamton Neo in front of the fountain.>chapter 3Unchanged other than like two lines of dialog.>chapter 4Holiday house is totally different. You, as a disembodied soul, have to exploit your way into Noelle's room. Then force the ring back onto her finger. You seem to rape Noelle. Afterwards Susie asks you what happened and the game glitches up. Then the chapter 4 dark world is mostly unchanged other than some dialog from Gerson and the option to close your eyes and think about Noelle. The chapter's ending has Carol call Kris about the festival instead of Kris climbing out the window.>chapter 5Kris sleeps through the festival. Kris and Susie explore the empty festival. You're required to interact with Sans, who gives you bread and makes Susie draw the poorly-drawn picture Sans has in Undertale. Then you find Noelle by the lake and she goes full schizo. She forces you into the lake with her and if you don't mash fast enough you seem to drown and then the game somehow reverts to the normal route, with some new Susie dialog. But if you succeed in mashing fast enough the game cuts to black and you get prompted to continue with chapter 7 side B.
>>742101573the mike games that are just the catpetterz minigames.battat is the "cave" one where noelle encountered a cat that lowered your score, this is friend.
>>742101551Not that upset about this since I can't really imagine a justifiable reason to fight Asgore. Would feel very forced. Asgore has a lot of character flaws, but one we know for sure is that he loves his family to death. Even his obsession with finding out the truth that ended up driving them away was ultimately for them. I can't imagine Asgore actually fighting Kris under any circumstances. If it happened I think he'd straight up just let Kris kill him without fighting back.
>>742101605Weird route reframes a lot of the main route so if you paid attention to that discussion during chapter 2 release you should be fine even if you don't know what happens in 3-5 weird route (not much but also a lot)
Finally some good food.https://litter.catbox.moe/d8q9hnfwow5tfr0w.png
What is the origin of this image. is it a mockup or can this be found in the game?
>>742101519Quick reminder that>battat Was referenced this chapter, freedom motif was called battat motif
>>742101685>invertedholy
>Aqua looks exactly like Kris>Aqua looks exactly like ERAM>Loves playing with knifes and is a weird like Kris>Constantly laughs like ERAMIs Kris and ERAM seperate parts of the same person?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBVteb9Z6psseriously what the fuck was this about
I just finished reading v3 and I'm losing it with this shit randomly sitting in the game files https://litter.catbox.moe/4lykokk4x9b6xxii.oggwhat did toby mean by this?
>>742101071Is everything a wrestling match to you faggots? But yeah he was a little too vague.
>>742101685What do you mean the ghost is bustier and has puffy nipples!?
>>742101646"WHAT KRIS YOU'VE BEEN OPENING DARK FOUNTAINS?!? IT'S TRUCKING TIME"
>>742101065You have to fight him in real life
>>742101728too busy noticing seth looks like the poke all toads fairy
>>742098146>is the most ironic weeb stereotype of "annie may" being expy of tokyo mewmew's heroine and also miku and also dating target>subtext means direct parallel with a well-spoken character but it won't have any payoff until like the last 30 minutes of the game, because the plot would speedup tenfold if kris stopped sandbagging earlieralso kris has less reactions to the situation than when he saw spamton, and the party shuts down any straightforward interpretation of the dating with the epic recurring joke of "kris flirts with everybody"
>>742099256wasn't he a NPC at some point? like he's the third worker of ICE-E's pizzas along with Pizzapants and the rabbit ice cream guy
>>742101753As funny as berguntrucking was it's obviously not an in character depiction of Asgore.
>>742101407>More than simple combatDon't play dumb and spout off about shit that nobody mentioned retard.Martial prowess and the willingness to commit violence WAS relevant here.Asgore spent the whole latter half of the darkworld hyping himself up, talking about how he's finally going to apprehend and punish the perpetrator of THAT INCIDENT.And when the time he's totally helpless.He does nothing, he doesn't even attempt to do anything.Not even an ineffectual punch thrown in desperation.Not even futile thrashing.Even the fucking stupid flower put up more of a struggle.Face it, this was a humiliation of Asgore.
>>742101760I can beat the shit out of some old scientist, no problem.
>>742099293>Susie turning into stone>Susie's home is the closetHuh
>>742101553>The cross shaped maze in the ice area from Dragon Blazers. Once you go in it, no matter where you go, you'll always be brought back to the same room.>Normally one of the characters is supposed to guide you through the maze. But it became one of the most famous (or should I say infamous... XP) parts of the game because if you go there without that character, you'll get basically stuck... FOREVER.This is referencing the stage in Chapter 3 where you find Noelle's expy in Mantle. Meaning Noelle is the character that can guide us around the Ice Palace (her home, it's pretty big after all)>The developers actually say something about this in the manual… It warns you this glitch is actually "one of the bad guy's magic spells"… Yeah XD... Sorry guys, I think you were just eating a little too much fruitcake when making this part of the game. XPOne of the bosses will be able to disorient space. Possibly a magician (ERAM?Seam? Or perhaps Noelle's mother)>The thing is, there actually is one.>Somehow kid me was so stubborn, I think I went EVERY single possible direction somehow XD Then the last direction you go is up.>If you do that, you'll find a door that doesn't appear ANYWHERE else in the game.This seems like the most important bit, there is a secret path. I wonder if said secret path also exists in the Mantle minigame, but this is worth keeping in mind, could be related to the egg room or something else.>Now I was going to be able to see what was in the secret door…>Or so I thought XP It was locked. And I've never been able to find ANY key in the game that opens it.>Since then, I can actually get to the door pretty consistently if I concentrate.>Unfortunately I don't know exactly what I'm doing, and it feels different every time, so I can't give any advice XDNoelle found the way to the door.>She was used upThis is the right place and right time. This is likely where the aborted Weird Route will continue from.
>>742101605>Will I pick up on all the mysteries and stuff just by playing the other chapters Yes, you just have to really look around and keep in mind game explains how to get to some of the secrets in later chapters>or is this like one of those collective schizophrenic moments where you need to be tapped into the community and absorbing all the information and interpretations out there to be able to see it?Ngl, to me at least there is a lot of this here too, but to understand all the "standard" theories you just need to play the game
>>742101739https://youtu.be/6oKsNayKwOU
Who Is Gaster's strongest soldier?
>>742101739>>742101874Oops, wrong video.https://youtu.be/9zAc9GMz35I
>>742101898Me
>>742097763The platformingThe enemiesAqua, Seth, and GreenFace spritesWeird RouteRalsei being an asshole
>>742101898Susie
since noelle is joining next chapter, the game should be renamed quadruplerune
>>742101864okay coolI heard there was an arg or something. Is that required reading?
>>742101646I think it can only happen in the Weird Route for Chapter 7 since he would think Kris is fully gone and possessed by a demon.Obviously he doesn't fully believe it so he hesitates at the last second and gets killed by (you) or Noelle.
>>742101898normalNPC
>>742101728>Look exactly like KrisWrong>Looks exactly like Eram Wrong>Loves playing with knives like KrisKris uses a knife. He carries a knife. He is sentimentally attached to a knife. He has never been shown playing with one.> Weird like KrisThey are weird in vastly different ways. That's like saying someone with depression and ADHD are the same because they're both psychologically defective.>Laughs like EramWrongThis is embarassing anon.You're really jumping at the thinnest wisps of possibility to legitimize your headcanon.
>>742101793>>is the most ironic weeb stereotype of "annie may" being expy of tokyo mewmew's heroine and also miku and also dating targetVery true. Anytime he references anything Japanese it has a very "teenager that just discovered anime" feel to it which is kind of weird since he's lived in Japan for like 10 years now
>>742102009>Look exactly like Kris>WrongAnonymous I understand not wanting to believe in FemKris but denying the parallels between the two is insanity.
given that the climbing carried over to this chapter its safe to say the 2d sections will continue in the next two chaptersso I look forward to how they will be used
Damn. Did all the haters leave already?Can I finally say that I absolutely loved every second of chapter 5 without getting assaulted from all sides?
>>742101991Only if you want to get really in deep with theorizing, if you want to get so deep you should beat the game first anywayMost recent ARG was just few rounds of questions from Toby and his reactions to answers people send, interesting stuff but nothing grounbreaking
Gaster is a N______
>>742102080God fuck yes please.
>>742102006I honestly would be disappointed if this guy didn't become more relevant now. Would be hype if he's a boss in the chapter 7 b route for example
>>742102009>Wrongdid you even play the chapter? Or are just fapping to off model porn of aqua?It's fucking MENTIONED by Aqua in the chapter that they look-a-like you gigantic faggot
anyone got the full lake sprite sheet for noelle with all the phases
>>742101751Anon.Get it through your ape skull.When somebody pridefully declares they're going to beat someone up and then gets knocked the fuck out in a single punch that's *embarrassing*.A loss a face.A loss of izzar.Whatever filthy thirdworld word you want to use for a humiliating blow to someone's ego.
>>742102080Im looking forward to the 3d sections in chapter 7
>>742101553>>742101860doesnt "arent you forgetting something?" cockblock you if you try to play the second true game without the first?
>>742102076Dess is the knight
>YOU WILL REALLY CHANGED Noelle is a plebeian NPC
>>742099536big sleeve tube top? genius
So if the Ice Palace is the next fountain, how does it happen in the light world?Because the implications of Kris opening a fountain in the light world are that 1) The Holidays would be in the know and 2) Kris would be purposedly ambushing Susie there.I was even thinking something like Kris and Susie getting invited over, with Rudy making up the excuse of trying to mend things between Carol and Susie, and during dinner Kris stands up and just..opens a fucking fountain, and the first thing that happens inside is Susie facing the knight alone while Kris is nowhere to be seen.
>>742102187Dess is either Rudy or Noelle and KrisGet with the program
>>742102187That's like, your opinion man.I personally prefer Carol Knight, especially now as a parallel for Susie becoming obsessed with living in the dark worlds.
>>742102172The Gaster fight will be in the style of Megaman Star Force
Deltarune is scared of being a JRPG
>>742100847>>742099662
>>742102084That would imply that you didn't look like >>742100727 during the regular beach scene and didn't mind George Floweroyd.
>>742102232Knight is*
>>742102224Rudy fucking dies and Carol immediately takes his dust home. Susie tells Noelle about dustners.
>>742102232I want both to be true, somehow
>>742101830>>742102153Nigger you don't even understand Asgore's character. The only time he's ever committed violence onscreen in all of UTDR he was too ashamed to even look straight ahead. Your /dbs/ ironypoisoned fantasies need not apply.
>>742101830i don't know what to tell you except that asgore is just not a relevant character himself, his role in the story starts and ends with pursuing "the one who got away"the trite resolution of his obsession means there is no thematic contradiction with asgore failing to confront the knight physicallyis all that i wrote pure wank? absolutely, but instead of focusing on the tree of "asgore was robbed" i am already checked out due to being stuck in the forest of "knight's skirmish tactics are lame"i really wouldn't be any more invested in the story if asgore pulled a trident out of his ass to fight, if the resolution remained the same, execution is really not the issue at this point
>>742102298Nolle bacame the cancer that turns into the knight armor and implanted itself on rudy
>>742101752>>742101685honk
Theory: Watercooler is Gaster
Noelle is my least favorite character >LOOK SOUL I MEAM KRIS WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO BREAK THE GAME ANWho’s we?Kek
>>742099536Only good part of ch5, would actually save it if all other flowers got nuked and she was the mainstay
>>742102365Is this masturbation?
>>742102375Since when was she the one in control?
>>742098238I like the potential of castle town gets sealed off and we need to get a darkner outside of it of note to help us.
>>742102187I can't believe people still dispute something so obvious.Whether it's literally just Dess. Or undead dustner Dess. Or titanized Dess. Or like an item belonging to Dess like her baseball batt or maybe an antler handband if Dess is human theory is real. It's Dess in some way shape or form.Rudy is fucking dying right now and was never a candidate worth considering to begin with.Carol is with Rudy at this moment (I cannot imagine she'd leave her dying husband in the hospital).Carol didn't have the opportunity to get to the church fountain in time (toilet theory was always a bullshit cope by contrarians)Neither Carol or Rudy have the character to behave like the knight does. It acts cool and strikes poses and stuff. That's not something either of them would do. But that is 100% something Dess would do.
I’m in control I’m using Noelle to kill GasterThis stupid deer thinks this is team effort KEK LEL
Your reaction if Gaster appears like this?
>>742102396Love thyself and listen to your body that has a mind of it's own and wants what it wants.
>>742102365Still can't get over what an absolute glow up Mew Mew got in Deltarune compared to her Undertale design
>>742102076>>742102119The only similarity is that they're blue.Its not even close to the same shade of blue.What are you going to suggest the blue dancing faggot is a representation of Kris too?What about the water cooler faery from chapter 4, that could be a parallel to Kris!Oh, maybe the weather girl from chapter 3 too?!Shall I go on? I'm sure I could find more blue characters you can dubiously connect to Kris?Seriously, you fuckers are way too lost in the sauce of your fanon.Get a grip.
>>742102420could be dess in coma.
>>742101685>>742102365SEXOOO
>>742101138WHAT DID YOU THINK THE SHADOW CRYSTAL WAS SHOWING
>>742102431>if
>>742102396Would caressing your own thigh count as masturbation?
>>742102275I genuinely do not give a shit about Kris's or anyone's love life. The only ship I cared about is Desriel, and that is 100% true now. So I won.
>>742102435Tony Fox got hornier in the last decade. Now he even says FUCK and knows what titties are.
>>742102431slightly related I would forgive toby for everything if he dropped a tl;dr eat shit faggots in deltarune
>>742102375I miss Chara..
>>742102431I would like it very much, out of gaster crew he is clearly least threatening
>>742102431Welp time kill youNoelle proceed Use Snowgrave on Gastee
>>742102365>>742102396>>742102434
>>742097763OST for Castle and final battle.Overall i liked the theme that was focused on meanings of love around the chapter>love toward family with Asgore>romantic but shallow love with Suselle>soulbond deeper love between Krusie, Kralsei and Kriselle>letting someone go due love>love healing every torn bondIts a nice setup for things that are about to come.I also loved entire Pink fight basically mirroring Mad Dummy and Mew Mew doll conflict with Player and Kris. It hints that we can't push Kris toward shit like Suselle because Kris has his own hopes and dreams. I saw like 10 normie let's players and they all pick Suselle options thinking that Kris would love this and they think Kris didn't think about Suselle on the ferris wheel because he wanted to give them privacy. Actual morons and it seems Toby only will vindicate actual 4chan weebs who ship one of the 3 main Kris ships.
>>742102396Not until after the boss fight
>>742102368Gastercooler
>>742102431>Gaster is actually Andonuts>the real ending involves inserting Earthbound: Hallowen Hack Side B
>>742102458If you're doing it to get off, yes, obviouslyTerrible comparison when a tit is much more erogenous
>>742102431Gaster not being coo and scaryl is one of the 3 things that can make me hate Deltarune.
>>742102187>>742102420If you would have paid attention to Asgore's autistic ramblings that Ralsei translated, you would have noticed the implication that the knight we're fighting right now is the same one that caused Dess' disappearance many years ago. So unless Dess kidnaped herself, it's not her
>>742102435Temmie has had a loooot of practice drawing cat girls since then
>>742102469
>>742102502I hate it that autistic normies think they are a trans allegory and not just literal stand in for Player and Kris. The main message is that YOU and KRIS can still be friends at the end if you let him follow his path
>>742102431Toby will never deliver on playing Gaster straight, he needs to be subversive about it, and abrupt humor is probably the best way to handle it, but it's probably too late for gags isn't it.
>>742102550What are the others?
Either chapters 6 and 7 are gonna be huge lore dumps or there's gonna be a lot of things that go unexplored and unanswered
>>742102562Doubt. It's not confirmed whether or not those fountains were made by the knight. It being Gaster or Friend or something who did it, kidnapped Dess, and turned her into the knight seems the most plausible turn of events.
How much longer nowMy Noelleprobably 2028 damn you Toby
>>742102304HE LITERALLY SAYS THAT HE'S GOING TO THRASH THE PERSON RESPONCIBLE FOR 'THE INCIDENT' AND PARADE THEM AROUND TOWN.THIS IS A LINE OF DIALOGUE IN THE GAME.ASGORE VERBALLY COMMITED TO TAKE A STAND AND VIOLENTLY DEFEAT WHOEVER WAS BEHIND THE DESS CASEHE WASN'T GOING TO HAVE A PEACEFUL DIALOGUE WITH THEM.HE WANTED TO **FIGHT** THEM..STOP DEFLECTING AND JUST ACCEPT THAT ASGORE FUCKING FAILED.
>>742102576The true message is that it's two catgirls lusting over YOU and/or over each other and that is hot
I would do the mouseI would do her in my house
>>742099662>>742099698>>742100172That's fucking crazy. Someone needs to make a list of the NPCs who have been cucked.
>>742098924Susie is Toby's #1 oc waifu who he imagines resting her chin on his head.Why did he cuck HIMSELF so hard.
total catgirl domination! mew!
>>7421026132031, you rike?
>>742102413Mad Mew Mew lives with Mettaton does she not? So if this is true we even have someone that would understand all this darkner & lightner shit there. It would be quite the satisfying setup if it happens
>>742102643Where does the orange juice come from?
>>742102576Nah, fuck him and his path.Im working here for a happy ending for him and he better appreciate it
>>742102660Complete. Global. Caturation.
>>742102605I'm betting on the latter outcome. There are still so many questions left unanswered, it's a lot easier to just leave everything up in the air and let fans come up with their own interpretation on what happened and how it all connects, rather than disappoint everyone with unsatisfying answers
>>742102660
>>742102643artist?
>>742102701Orange's pussy juiceget itbecause she's a coward
>>742102609If I remember right, the notes said that the knife piece found there is the same kind that has been found on a couple more recent dark fountain locations. To me it seems to imply that whoever - or even whatever - the knight is, they've been doing that shit for a while, way before the fun gang were a thing
did collageanon ever deliver
>>742102660They're the best songs of the chapter so makes sense. Funny that they're so close.
>>742102614Yeah, you don't know the point of Asgore if you find any of that noteworthy. Take your niggerbrained memes about rizz jobbers and aura farmers back to /dbs/ where you contracted them, fag.
>>742102660The world is but a repetition of patterns. The flower shall mog the Cat just as the TV mogged the Knight.
>Yuri is the highest form of literature. The lesbian romance? The handholding? The trials and the tribulations? Peak fiction.>BUT. That's only one part of it. to truly appreciate it you need NTR. Watching the girl you like get swept away by your middle school bully while you just sit there in your chair helplessly. Absolutely amazing. Suselle is canon because I wanted to combine the ultimate highs of romance with the agonizing despair of a romantic cuckoldry sub-plot. it's the perfect narrative cocktail.>Look forward to chapter 6 in 2027!
>>742102780I haven't seen it, but I hope they do.
He’s definitely dead in the weird route right?
Mew Mew Milk
>>742102643>You'll say I was brave, right?
>>742102576my immediate reaction was that Mad is obviously player and we are both mad (heh) that the body does not listen to usbut thinking back it also fits the other way around - we just want to have fun adventures (eating sand) and Kris is mad that we dont do what he says, throws us in the cage/garbage (only I can blow up my body)
>>742102753Signirsol, a decently known 4channer who draws mostly UTY stuff.
>>742102821Any signs he isn't?
>>742101580blog?
>>742102821No, he's just trying to stall you like a faggot
>>742102795This man cannot hide his Jewish genes at all, holy shit.
>>742102598The ending is "make your own ending bro" (this is terrifyingly likely with how much Toby spilled their heart out about fan works during undertale anniversary stream).And the knight not being Dess in some way shape or form. If Toby is really gonna asspull someone for that when all the evidence points towards it being her and the only counter ""evidence"" are schizophrenic theories like Carol flushing herself down the toilet or having a secret tunnel to the church then I will feel genuinely betrayed for being invested in the story. Yes I know that chapter 5 shows some documents about someone else having made the dark fountains long ago when Dess disappeared. But this is obviously foreshadowing Friend or Gaster or that the knight is some kind of curse position that someone passed onto Dess.I will very very very maybe accept Carol knight, but honestly not really.>>742102768Friend, Gaster, or even Titans being made of that same stuff is very plausible. The current knight we see is Dess. Whoever made the old fountain isn't the knight.
>>742102786Okay, you're obviously just pretending to be stupid to troll.Or you're unironically just a lobotomite.Either way this is a waste of my time.
>>742102084No, fuck off tranny.
>>742102821All the Noelle sprites in the lake have shading to show them slowly sinking deeper except the final sprite where the shading is on her forehead, they passed through something underneath the water
>>742101237counter argument:yes as a love interestkris has earned some gamer dick as a treatlet her date berdly!
>>742102821He's absolutely dying in weird AND normal. You'll have to go between lines to save him.
>>742102821No, but we are gonna torture her Omega Flowey style at the end of it.
>>742102605Why not both?
Rude Buster=>Rudee Buster=>Rudy Buster
My name? It's Gaster Susie.
>>742102821you never had one of those days?
>local soul not so smug after being raped by deer
>>742102823Orally milking Mew Mew's Mewdders
>>742102821in the normal route he's physically dyingin the weird route he's mentally dying.
sex
>>742102084Have you ever thought about a word where (you) don't exist, and everything is vastly better for your exclusion.The thought fills me with hope.
>>742102486obviously that's impossible under Nintendo contract, but he could subvert it and make it maggots instead
Please refer to Kris as they/them, as we do not have confirmation of their gender yet. Thank you.
>No one is considering becoming as throuple.
>>742103005FAKE DEMON.
My name? It's Mary Suesie
>>742102878Then you will hate it for sure since dess wont be knight, it will be most likely rudy or weird route amalgam of Kris and Noelle
>>742097748You jest but watch this be 100% true because Toby is a goblin who loves subversion
>>742102768 i always thought it was either rudy or carol looking for dess, but with this reveal that the knight has been at it prolly even before the dess incident im not so sure now. if it is its own entity then that would kinda suck to be honest.
>>742097763I liked Aqua, her being a somewhat difficult fight and having an alright theme, massive bonus points for letting me actually fight her.Flowery grew on me but the game screaming at me not to use FIGHT on him and all the other cringe Steven Universe OCs soured the battles.The weird route was fantastic despite of being 20 minutes long.That's about it. It was not worth the wait.
>>742102914Like I thought someone was impersonating your dumbass talking point as a false flag when you started chimping out your trite drivel in all caps. Bye bitch.
is the red pixel on noelle the start of her forming her own SOUL?
>>742103037in a throuple there's either the "center of attention" (susie) or the "third wheel thats the only thing making it work" (kris)
>>742103005>stopYou have to be such a pussy to utter those words.
>>742103034No.I won't degrade HIM like that.Take your troon propaganda elsewhere.
So where's the next dark world going to take place?
>>742103106Deer hooves typed this
>>742103072I'm not even sure it'll be a person myself. The problem with it being Rudy is, why would he cause the disappearance of his own daughter? He seems to very much like his family
>>742103032Oh my God, of course. The Knight's identity, the person who is Gaster's strongest SOLDIER...
>>742103037Stop cucking everyone, you faggot: >>742099662
>>742103005can't relatehad the biggest grin
Rakuichi Buster such a damn banger
>>742103037Second chapter in a row where he isn't in the fountain with us.Lancer, I understand, Aqua was femLancer.And ch6 will most likely not have him or anyone from castle town either, because it will most likely be a full on serious character with no time for comic relief.
>>742103116at the Holiday Manor
>>742102487the worst part of genocide unironicallyimagine going through all the shit with sans and flowey and then doing "since when were you the one in control?" basically uprooting the whole thesis statementalso thematically incoherent nonsense: the first fallen human, but also like the first "player" to get into the game, but also narrator, but also metaphysical embodyment of wanting bigger numbers in videogamesshit's trash yo
>>742103116Ice Palace, the Holidays home, Carol invites both Kris and Susie under the guise of apologizing to Susie, but Kris summons a fountain and Susie gets ambushed by both the Knight and Kris
>>742103129Nigga I didn't pick the weird route to not do it. I'm all in. I want Noelle to do her freaky shit.
>Weird route turns into yandere HMOFAI stopped caring about the main plot, all I want to see is where Toby is going with this. Noelle killing Kris would be kino.
>>742100317Bravo, Jew fox.
>>742103116probably Noelle's houseI think it will go like this> Susie tells Noelle about DW> She does not believe her, so Susie brings her to the closet> there is no dark world for some reason> Susie crashes out> Kris walks Noelle back home> insert some awful scene where Noelle goes 'faha, aint sussy so quirky?'> They open door, black smoke, etc.
>>742102375I think it'd be very funny if after Chapter 6 and 7 our conclusion is that Toby can't write anything new, and that he wrote the same story twice.
>>742103236He was killed in order to prevent this from happening.Prophecy WILL be subverted.
>>742103221>carol>apologizing to SusieYeah this is not happening. Maybe an infiltration mission again where they go to try to find shelter-related things and find a dark fountain when arriving.
>>742103204Yeah.You make a compelling point.Chara really is just there to facilitate the world being restarted.You could make it so that the player needs to dig around the files to make the game playable again, but tarnish everything in the process and everythign woulkd still work.
>>742103316Too kino for Toby, also it's too soon to fetus deletus Castle Town
>>742103005Bitchmade souls deserve to lose control.
>>742103236>Gaster stopped one cockblock from happening by kilking onionsanGaster is only one working against NTR agenda
>no one posts Susie anymoreToby managed to obliterate her rep in one stroke. People went from wanting to team up with her to beat the shit out of Kris for his betrayal to wanting Kris to burn down all of hometown. Impressive really, kudos
>>742103305>>742103005>The fake SOULplayers who got scared during Chapter 5 are the same ones who would pull out from their girlfriend when she leglocks them while screaming, whereas the real SOULchads would thrust deep into her.Many such cases.
Why didn’t Kris just do this? Is he stupid?
I'm the OP but jeebus crisst, why are some of you fags like this, was just digging in my ancient delta folder
>there is a world where toby went with a direct kitsune anagram and their name is nutskie
>>742103327>the textI don't even need to check to know what it means.
>>742103072Dess is 100% the knight. If it isn't then all the evidence Toby planted was all just redherring bullshit and everyone who engaged with the story should go fuck themselves. Nobody else makes any sense.
>>742102619okay i need some exper/d/s hereis it hotter if it's possession and both possess-er and possess-ee are in agreement (to fuck) as a singular entity, or is it hotter as a spiritual swinger foursome where souls and bodies take turns in control?
>>742103204it's just standard devil pact shit, thematically it's okay for a storyi can understand your frustration though
>>742103446Same thing happened last chapter with toriel
>>742102821He tried sleeping through the day to cuck you out of the Weird Route, since you only control him when he's lucid and aware of everything going on.Ironically, Toriel waking him up is what allowed you to force him out of the bed and proceed as usual.
>>742103505Nta, but whats the evidence for knight being dess that cant fit another character?
>>742103204>since when were you the one in controlMaybe with your backpedaling ass, she's still loyal on my save
>>742103446She's still my favorite character. I don't care about Kris's love life. Everything she did this chapter is also in character for her if you just look at it from her perspective with her personality traits rather than as an omniscient observer.
>>742103284(We)'re going use both of them up - first Noelle, then Kris - on the other side. Which will hopefully mean repurposing their bodies and fusing their souls. Would be lame if we denied her the chance to witness the final ending.
>>742103459>Because you've shown interest in this communityYour fault
Sans is a fed status?
>>742103404that would be the twist for the chapterCastle Town was not deleted, but Knight somehow moved the fountain, maybe to the bunker while Susie had to go to the classroomSusie desperate for escapism fix starts opening fountains left and right - causes start of roaring, cut to black
>>742103616High
>>742103519I think Susie fell down way harder than Toriel did. You still had Toriel simps post ch4, no one likes Susie now
>>742103513The latter that then becomes the former when approaching climax
>>742103446Unless it's revealed she has brainworm due to the prophecy, she's number one on my death list.
>>742098238I like how toby assumed most of us gave tenna away, so he just put his mike scene in a newsletter
>>742103505what evidence lmao
>>742103116It will happen in Noelle's home after Rudy's funeral
>>742103637Weird route gods are canon
>Kris has a ton in common with Spamton, who is a dudefemkris sisters...
>>742103628you mean the cliffhanger at the end?sure, maybe that could happen yeahthere's also the very sus door at the left of the closet that has no purpose
>>742103616The only reason the night couldn't nab Toriel in ch4 is Sans pulling her away from the church.Oh he knows, Sans is his own faction.
>>742098607She can't stop the Tenna/Mew/King/Queen/Lancer team up tho
>>742103072You are an insecure loser latching onto rudyknight "because it will spite those uppity fucking lorefags".The game screams at you that it's not him but you desperately need that to not be true to "clap back" at people who make you feel like an idiot.Nothing unique about you either, pretty much every story has the "god I so desperately hope this story doesn't follow reason to get back at people who give a shit" cretin.
>>742103616Glowing in the dark
>>742103519NahPeople who actually paid attention started disliking Toriel as soon as Undertale's pacifist route
>>742103204It's actually funny because Chara completely changes the meaning of the genocide route. It goes from (you) the player being a monster for going out of your way to murder all the monsters just to see what happens, to the soul of a murdered child finding a way to break it's bounds so it can enact revenge on monsterkind
>>742103640>Toriel For some reason I started jerking off to her more often after Chapter 4...
>>742103658Wish peopld made more fanart of her with doll joints or her head off like this. Fleshy Maddy is not terrible but you need puppet characteristics for her to truly be her.
>>742103731Here I come Sanfrandisco!
>>742103505it's rudy, or something completely unexpected because how tf do you explain this?
Flowery is much better than Noelle ever could have been. I should have chose him to kill Gaster. Flowery is a true hero. Noelle is just retarded
>whoa bro this is messed up I was only doing this route just cause I was curious>that's what everyone's doing right, nah this is too much>haha we all regretting it right, we shouldn't have done it man I hope it doesn't brick our wholesome dyke love routePathetic.Seeing people like that now and then disgusts me.
>>742103637>>742103702>Gaster is either doing nothing to stop us or is outright helping us ( >>742103327 )What kind of deal does he have with Sans exactly?
>>742103616What about Papyrus? Why does getting the eggs from him causes an "issue" in game achievements?
>>742103836Fuck them, brick the world because it’s interesting
>>742103731Glue!
jarona!
>>742103572Baseball bats Anon. It's settled, it can't possibly be any other candidate so stop thinking about it. We know Toby wouldn't fuck with us by dropping red herrings
The flowers fighting so hard to give back to Asgore was actually really sweet
>>742103832>how do you explain Rudy being confused about Kris suddenly popping in unannounced with a friend he's never interracted withAre you autistic?
>>742103834flowery salt route
>>742103037Would solve so many problems, so it can never happen
>>742103846He’s Sans brother so Sans gets to be a knower
>>742103790I guess it's too "fetish-y" for most people. I don't see why though, just IMAGINE the possibilities
>>742102696>Mad Mew Mew lives with Mettaton does she not?Yeah they live together, I think mew mew just happened to be in flower king browsing the goods as a floating catgirl figurine when the dark world was made. Unless she saw the figure and possessed it in the window of the festival and sunset. That'd be a bit of a coincidence.
>>742103736She's talking about her and FemKris
>>742103836I did it twice for good measure. Might do it a third time.
>Susie beings Noelle to the dark world >Knight see it as going too far and attack them>Receuits and susie/Noelle fight>(You) arrive as they fight>Ralsei beg you to flee>You go back in the light world>Berdly was about to go home from class>Kris? What's up?>You tell him Noelle and Susie needs help>He gets serious and follow you>I knew this was too good to be a dream!>The knight kneels for the real gamer
>>742103887Case in fucking point>>742103746
>>742103116ICE-Es.
Flowers who fight knowing they are doomed yet for selfless reasons are more human than humans
>>742103459This quite literally happens with almost every single piece of media ever invented, there will always be spergs in anything you enjoy
>>742103836>bro this is messed upI don't get what's so bad about that? They're breaking free from that fucking simulation, which is a good thing. No matter what shitty place they wake up in, it's better than being trapped in a simulation.
>>742103887asriel knight?
I need that humanity to kill Gaster in Ch 7 that D E T E R M I N A T I O N but I guess Noelle will have to do -_-
>>742101685Bazed
>>742103746>because it will spite those uppity fucking lorefagsStop projectingDess wont show up untill gaster dimension because her entire purpose is being lost in the codeDess knighters cant explain why knight was in historicaly bad form this chapter, rudy knighters can because he just fell down a ladder Hospital is close enough to every dark world locationThat thing in his chest? His sicknessIm invested in this story, but unlike you im not so invested in one theory to just keep ignoring every piece of new evidence
>>742097739>That's tree-mendous projection, princess.
>>742103836Despite what people say, a lot of them actually enjoy it, sometimes even more than the normal route. There's a reason artists draw Noelle and the lake scene in absurd quantities.
Ralsei and Noelle both do the thing where they hold Kris's hand to break boundaries Ralsei does it to cross over spikes
>>742103572Basically nothing aside from the fact that Rudy and Carol also have antlers. But they don't fit with the knight's personality (acts flashy, shows off, strikes poses, mirrors Kris's mannerism (almost as if Kris learned to act like they do from Dess or something)). Kris mirroring the knight is the smoking gun that completely kills Rudy and Carol. You're not telling me with a straight face that Kris looks up to either of those two or something.There's also that line from Ramb that very heavily hints at all of the dark world stuff being based on games Kris used to play with "that girl' which once again doesn't make sense for Carol or Rudy because Rudy isn't a girl and Carol is a woman and also fucking Kris wasn't playing fucking games with workaholic Carol.It's probably not Noelle since Noelle would have recognized what Queen and the Cyber World residents were. There's only one candidate for this. Dess.>>742103679Read above>>742103832>Why does Rudy think it's weird that you're bringing some complete fucking stranger to visit him????Like all Rudy knight shit this is weak as fuck. One line of dialogue that can very easily be interpenetrated as a Dad being a little hesitant about this stranger that he knows his daughter is into doesn't hold a candle to the knight's cocky attitude, Kris mirroring the knight, and all the dark world being based on the games Kris and "that girl" used to play.Rudy is also fucking in a coma or actively dying right now. You're 100% trolling if you think it's him.
>>742103582>going from aromantic and borderline indifferent to Noelle's presence at times to instantly dating her and constantly being rent free about her. >wanting to keep Noelle out the dark world for her own safety to wanting to bring her along on this adventure that has proven to be a serious and dangerous deal with ch3 and 4.>in characterYeah ok
>>742104094>parrot doesn't kill her in Weird Routeit's 100% gonna happen
>>742103958sorry anonymous but since adding any reactivity beyond two lines of dialogue will take literally months to design haha why not another completely different gameplay mode because nobody knows how to iterate on combat berdly will literally never be relevantpray you simply do not get eyerolling tongue-in-cheek joke about susie refusing to consider berdly because he's annoying, despite being way bigger threat in vanilla cyber world
>>742103836i hope that toby makes normal route suselle absolutely fucking explode in everyone's faces in CH6 just to shut suselle shippers up for good.
>Undertale flowers are evil >Deltarune flowers are goodThe hecking parallels Muh Deltarune! Muh survey program
>>742102838Yeah thats the literal reason behind this path. It also suppose to forshadow the conflict mostly thrown at the normies who ship Suselle. I think almost every lets players want Kris to give lesbians privacy on Pride Month which mirrors how Ralsei tell Mad Dummy that the body is independent and has own desires. This then leads to a Krusie romantic walk at the which is important for Kris and will force it if you are against it. The soundtrack also dies when Kris learns that Susie plans to sideline their adventures by adding Noelle.
>>742103498idgi
>people hated flowery but liked Mew MewNormies…
>>742104005>Breaking out of the simulation.They aren't.They sunk.And kept sinking.Until they crossed past the threshold of the darkworld.The one at the bottom of the lake.The one that stretches far.Further than any other Darkworld.From the drowned loam, to the sewerspipes, to the shelter... to the school storage closet.
>>742104005Tbh even assuming we won't do anything morally incorrect anymore, we have:>killed a bunch of darkners>killed Berdly>disappeared Kris and Noelle without a single word, which will completely break their parents and SusieEven if we were to somehow save the day, going against everyone's expectation of us about to destroy or at least seriously fuck up the world in SideB, this at very least touches the problem of whether the ends justify the morally incorrect means.
>>742104221They're going to the depths or hell, the ice queen will be reborn
Favorite song from Ch 5 /v/?
>>742104317Flashback (Forma de lake)
>>742104317Flower man and petal dance
>>742103871>interestingThat's still just curiosity. I want exactly what it promises.No one else matters.
>>742104238What if Berdly actually wakes up? At that point the only really morally fucked thing done in weird is gone since darkners aren't even real people.
>>742104317Petal Dance
>>742104317Flower manEverything else is pretty ok
>>742103836weird route is the only reason I'm even interested in this game at all anymore, I'm not interested in dyke furry romance #237. I'm like 90% sure the true ending of deltarune is Kris making the DELTARUNE somehow through this convoluted plan which then allows them to change the story and we end up with a Mother 3 ending where the world ends but all the characters give you a farewell but you can't see any of it because you are forbidden from interacting with their new world.
>>742104238>>killed a bunch of darknersThey aren't real as far as lightners are concerned>>killed BerdlyProve it>>which will completely break their parents and SusieThe same parents that don't care when their children are out of the house for a long time?
>>742104317>Favorite song from Ch 5 /v/?https://youtu.be/eW3ZGROFfmw
>>742104352Berdly final WR boss
>>742104238What does killing Darkners do? It broke Tenna but sîce we froze them what does thay make them? Frozen programs?
>>742104298Oceans?Ice?Fate?Snow?Depths?Deaths?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_snow
Thoughts on snd_next?
>>742104389Insane art work (if not ai)
What's the point of aborted routes.
>>742104186FUCK HIM UP
>>742104407Closed tabs
>>742104352GAMERS DON'T DIETHEY RESPAWN
>>742104106>Dess knighters cant explain why knight was in historicaly bad form this chapterHe wasn't in one.>rudy knighters can because he just fell down a ladder He didn't fall off a ladder, he wasn't on it to begin with. Atleast watch the weird route, you disingenuous faggot.It's also not said he fell down a ladder, he's Fallen Down. Dying. He can't crawl anywhere half dead and with his family by his side.>Im invested in this story, but unlike you im not so invested in one theory to just keep ignoring every piece of new evidenceYou disingenuous, gaslighting piece of shit, you did this in this post.
is anyone else also doing a normal playthrough without collecting any eggs or shadow crystals?
>>742104220Flowery is funnery and Mew Mew is sex sex
>>742104407Tfw Noelle is actually the dark world's tasque manager
>>742104464>You disingenuous, gaslighting piece of shit, you did this in this post.You know he's a dime a dozen bad faith arguing retard but you are replying to him anyway.Apply yourself a little.
>>742103936There's a line during the festival where the mad ghost is seething Asgore is displaying the figurine out. I think she went do something about that, and that's how she found herself caught up in the dark fountain.>>742104317Running Sky and Dreamwatchers ;_;
>>742104470I do for my first go each chapter then I start again and get everything
>>742104449To give us the master sword of Deltarune the twisted sword
>>742104374I'm in the same boat bro.However, I'm becoming increasingly skeptical that Toby will deliver.It seems more likely he'll play everything off as a lame joke for the sake of 'le epic expectation subversion'.
>>742104374> this convoluted plan which then allows them to change the story and we end up with a Mother 3 ending where the world ends but all the characters give you a farewell but you can't see any of it because you are forbidden from interacting with their new world.This guy is a knower
Hero
>>742104449ch. 5 aborted is only one that will matter, narratively speakingeverything else is nothing burger (at least so far)
>>742104136>>going from aromantic and borderline indifferent to Noelle's presence at times to instantly dating her and constantly being rent free about her. Aside from the romantic undertones that were present in chapter 4. Susie isn't like CRAZY in love with Noelle either. She's in love with Noelle but still awkward and hesistant about it.I also just don't see the problem here unless you were super fucking invested in Susie going with Kris or something. They went on a date together and had lots of fun and now she's in love with Noelle? That's what young people do.>>wanting to keep Noelle out the dark world for her own safety to wanting to bring her along on this adventure that has proven to be a serious and dangerous deal with ch3 and 4.Susie already said back in chapter 2 that she wanted to keep Noelle out because it's her and Kris's thing and she even repeated that in chapter 5. Susie also lost trust in Toriel, who is the only adult she would have gone to about this.
>>742104636I killed him once.I can do it again.
>>742103836It's the exact opposite for me>"This is really fucked up. There's no way this won't have consequences like the Genocide route.">Noelle goes full schizo>"Consequences be damned, I've found true love."
>>742104535I know, it's still infuriating to read what's going to be the common talking about among idiots for atleast 1 more year.
>>742104636I hate skelewank but this would be kino
>>742104470I was getting everything but now I can't be bothered. I'll do a complete clear once all chapters are out and I know all permutations.
Sand used Kris with that bread
We're gonna get the 10th anniversary version of Genocide when Chapter 7 Side B appears.
Tony tricked me into playing his furry yiff game just to make me attracted to a human woman
>>742097495Don't monsters turn into dust on death? How would Librarbyfag harvest Onion's corpse if they don't leave corpses in the first place? The closest thing I can think of would be him just straight up putting his dust in the chinkballs like some sorta spice, but I doubt that'd overpower the taste of the actual octopus in 'em.
>>742104126>Basically nothing aside from the fact that Rudy and Carol also have antlers. But they don't fit with the knight's personality (acts flashy, shows off, strikes poses, mirrors Kris's mannerism (almost as if Kris learned to act like they do from Dess or something))Aren't a bunch of Flowery's poses near-identical to those of the knight, and Flowery's heavily implied to be based on how Asgore saw Rudy when they were in college together?
>>742104298>The queen returnsThis was from when she was a played straight borg queen type threat instead of someone who just needed a [speech 50] check from Ralsei wasnt it
>>742104657The prophecy probably says something like>the cage kills the dragon Or>The dragon shatters the cageAnd now Susie is paranoid around Kris
>>742104702You now want to fuck dolls
>>742104713It's a stretch, they aren't 1:1 unlike Kris's ACTs which overlap 100% with Knights.
>>742104762Wife
>>742104641>crushing Noelle's hopes and dreams to the point she despairs and allows herself to turn back into a Noelle-robot and getting tainted by Susie is the only route that mattersDelusion.I won't allow that.
>>742104738Yeah.Also the darkeners and castle town probably spent last night cheering Susie up by hyping her up for the date.
>>742104702A human catgirl that is conventionally attractive, busty and curvy unlike the usual Toby freaks*
>>742097495>still don’t know what Ralsei’s light world form is>still don’t know what FRIEND is>still don’t know who the man behind the tree is>still don’t know what happened to dess>still don’t know who the knight is>still haven’t see Asriel>still don’t know what the deal with the prophecy>still don’t know what gaster’s deal is>still don’t know what happened to Kris’s original SOUL>now has the meat factory and seed plotlines to deal withJesus the next two chapters are going to be a bloated mess
>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a doe slamming her pelvis into yours — for ever.
Kris is the knight
>>742104713>ImplyingNo there is the problem.We needed Asgore connecting the dots and going "R-Rudy..?" in shock before getting abducted or something as if it is 100% Rudy this seems like the chapter to drop that bombshell to make it not feel totally irrelevant to main plot progression outside of the shelter code.
I'm gonna be hopping mad if this ties in too much with Undertale's events. Like if UT's actual ploy ends up surpassing Sans' meta bullshit in relevance I'm gonna shower Tobert with rotten tomatoes. Characters and themes are fine but don't AU timeloop me Toby. Let this world be its own thing.
>>742104817None of that is gonna get elaborated on btw
>>742104702>human womanYou mean a sexdoll of an anime catgirl and the ghost possessing it
>>742104807barely even busty thoughbeit
>>742104847Like Asgore's idealized perception of rudy vs the reality of what rudy currently is
>>742104841Nanako's the knight and I'm Donkey Kong!
>>742104854Desu i think the only true connection will be Sans escaping Hometown during the Weird Route only to end up in Undertale.
Mew Mew is a giga knowerhttps://youtu.be/qkUTuN8Nlis?si=J03oC1Ig1So2H2kZ
>>742104886barely busty is buxom by toby standards
>>742104298When will you retards realize those prophecies are not to be taken at face value
>>742103965Not sure what you're trying to say>>742104032Toby has been doing whatever he can to muddy the waters whether it be that strange inclusion of """cut items""" on the UT anniversary stream, the bat in Dess's room, Carol and her swords/sinister behavior, Rudy's odd dialogue/ inaccessibility when the knight is active, the knight's final attack being almost identical to one of Asriel's in UT, the knight damage sound being a Noelle voice clip sped up, two knight like figures in Ralsei's titan explanation, etc etc etc. People are getting neurotically attached to their favorite candidate and the insane tribalism is taking the fun out of the mystery. We're still in vaguezone and probably not going to get the answer until the last 20 minutes like in UT.tl;dr Toby absolutely positively throws out red herrings like candy and it's silly for people to think that doesn't count for the evidence supporting their pet theory when this shit is still in the air
>>742104636He's absolutely gonna have some sort of role, between the bread crumbs & the "don't forget" picture
>>742104908Donkey KongD KDess Knight
>>742104886She has a clear visible chest which puts her in the top 0.1% of women in the Tobyverse.
>>742104932yeah fair
>>742104713GNot really. They're not anywhere close enough. Absolutely not in the same way Kris and the Knight mirror each other. We also fought with both Flowery and the Knight and their attacks really don't look similar either.Also still doesn't explain why the dark worlds are based on the games Kris and "that girl" (GIRL, FEMALE, NOT MALE, NOT RUDY) played.And no Rudy wasn't present for all those games. That stretches believability too far.
>>742104464>He wasn't in one.Doesnt react fast enough to the wall and he is either so tired or in so much pain he is kneeling >He didn't fall off a ladder, he wasn't on it to begin with. Atleast watch the weird route, you disingenuous faggot.In normal route he puts on the lights, in weird route later that day he is sitting tired but wants to continue his work, around that time Carol would call Noelle, he went back on the ladder and fell down>It's also not said he fell down a ladder, he's Fallen Down. Dying. He can't crawl anywhere half dead and with his family by his side.Imagine not seeing obvious setup for the misunderstanding>You disingenuous, gaslighting piece of shit, you did this in this post.Man you just get more angry and angry for no reason, do you think I would waste my time if i didnt actually believe this?>>742104535Call me a retard i dont care, but im not arguing in bad faith
>>742104817Ralsei is a ponta tree
>>742104913>>742104854It won't. There's a reason Toby said he wants people to treat Deltarune as its own thing. Even the drawing is just bait to mess with faggots still obsessed with Undertale, akin to how he made the Mikes to mess with theorists.
>>742104636Based, give me gaster mafia sans
>>742104106>Dess knighters cant explain why knight was in historicaly bad form this chapterWhat the actual fuck are Rudy knighters pulling out of their fucking asses man. It's fucking crazy the shit you nigger come up with.
how long do you think the discussion for this chapter last?I'll give it 2 weeks at best
Why can't we just get Mew Mew's body for ourselves, Kris is a fucking traitor
>>742105110I'd prefer my original vessel
>>742105101Less than a week, jannies will step in like the last time
>>742105035>Imagine not seeing obvious setup for the misunderstandingThere it fucking is.>bro stop thinking this game has any logical consistency or that words carry actual meaning I NEED this part of the story to not be true for my retardation to workEnd your fucking life immediately, parasite.
>>742104948>The Knight is a Darker than Dark entity that assimilates and copies the behavior of everyone in hometownOr not since the knight in ch 4 doesn't stop using moves mimicked from absorbing undyne and it uses behavior from people clearly still around.
I can't get Mew Mew's theme out of my head AAIEEEEEEEEEE
I don't understand, why is there Police in the Town, but no court?
>>742105110They've already got enough personalities in there, having one trying to look at her tits the whole time isn't gonna make things any easier.
>>742105132We’re going to the meat factory to get our vessel back so we can go postal
>>742105110To be mew mew and give titjobs to anons....
>>742105068>There's a reason Toby said he wants people to treat Deltarune as its own thing.Yeah it's to trick people like you.
>>742105158Because then the trial would Proceed
>>742105163Hell yeah
>>742105158Carol takes care of anything more complex than some silly thugs
>>742105180Imagine the double titjobs
>>742105180I LOVE MEWBIES
>>742105110Who cares about the body I want to fuck the ghost. Mostly. 70%
>>742104920>The world's massacre>this time beneath the watermew!
>>742105035I will call you a retard AND a disingenuous, bad faith faggot.
>>742105180Right pretends to be embarrassed but 100% gives better sex. Left will do anything though
>>742105204Since when does she know contract and tort law
>>742105180Agpmew mew anons.....
>>742105180ok but do you still have the penis
>>742105253Tsundere Mad Mew Mew Doki Doki...
>>742105180>>742105306I prefer this side of her
>>742105204They better deliver on Carol considering her and Kris are the main light world antagonists outside of the knight and they haven’t acted yet
>>742105135>>742105240Enjoy your rage next chapter then
>>742105147it is a brilliant troll move but the knight clearly has amalgamate behaviors going on. Like some mix of amalgamate and darkness. Why go about falsely assuming it is an individual when we know from undertale they can fuse monsters. And the knight being in bad form at times is explained fine by this... it is not a stable entity.The main error (or not) is it seems able to plan, plot and coordinate diplomatic behavior like w/ kris so it can't be a full on vantadark monster the way a titan is even if they're obviously connected.
>>742105340Mad Mew Mew is CUTE!
>>742105306>>742105180manic, screaming, bed-breaking sex with the ghost half
>>742102027I don't think he actually lives in Japan
Next chapter is the great Ralsei cuckening