Aqua!
>>742149152this is the only Toby Fox character that I lust for and I don't know why
>>742149248>I don't know whyToT
*SCHLOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRR*
i feel like if we ever see this guy "properly" move around he'll flop around like a GMOD ragdoll
>>742149152my queen...
What is Noelle's major malfunction?
>>742149248She's cute but I also like femboy Chara/Frisk, Asriel, Muffet, and Vulkin
>>742149785Everyone likes Asriel, anon.
How did Onion get turned into takoyaki if monsters turn to dust after death?
>>742149780where does the meat come from? are there pets in the deltarune universe?
>>742150129He's an octopus. He might've still been alive
>>742150129The goners are related to Gaster aren't they? What kind of research did Alphys inherit from Gaster in Undertale?
>>742149785>Vulkinexquisite taste mon ami
>>742150129They cut off his limbs while we was still breathing
>>742149785>FemboyGay. Frisk and Chara are supposed to be cute lolis and Aqua's predecessor.
So Ralsei really is Asriel, uh
>>742150505maybe
>>742149248You like unambiguous human lolis and thus was too much of a coward to like Frisk/Chara
>>742150129They've never specified if Monsters in Deltarune also become dust since they don't really have magic they have actual physical bodies.
So Toby had to write him out since if her were alive her would have saved Noelle and Kris
>>742150707I thought with gerson they sprinkled his dust on the hammer which is how he shows up in chapter 4
>>742150707Chapter 4 straight up says they do.
>>742150802that could have easily have just been cremation dust, because Snowy and his dad do go to a grave to pay respects and UT monsters just sprinkle dust on loved objects
>>742150505Oh wow could you imagine. Generic yuri + gay incest endgame, fuck it baby lets make it as bad as possible why not
>>742149152isnt she cyan tho?
>delta threads are already dyingchapter 5 really was shit...
>>742150846Pretty sure a book in CH1 or 2 also says it. Or maybe the book was in Undertale and im mixing up memories
>>742150802Gerson saw too much; NormalNPC’s making turtle soup next
>>742150505Ralsei might be some fake version of AsrielOr he might be straight up just an idealized KrisIt's mildly annoying to me how this chapter rebounded a lot of pre-chapters 3 and 4 theories
https://strawpoll.com/xVg712Vw6yr
>>742150707It is very clearly spelled out that they turn into dust, the difference with Undertale is that in Deltarune they have burial rites.
>>742150876it wouldn't be real incest because Kris and Asriel aren't blood relatedIt would just be regular gay stuff
>>742150980i know undertale says it in snowdin book, but from what i remember in Deltarune Susie says everyone bleeds which is something undertale monsters didn't do. but that could just be her acting weird
I couldn't tell, is Susie meant to be dressed as Manfred during the trial stuff? Obviously Kris is Edgeworth/Franziska and Ralsei is Trucy but I couldn't make out what Susie was meant to be for sure.
>>742151043>I have a confession to make. It wasn't Kris who was gonna rape me. I was gonna rape em!
>>742151013copebros, we're winning
>>742150495This anon gets it. We don't take kindly to faggots around here>>742149785 move along
>cover my ears, monsters are all I hear,>it's been so long, losing my mind I fear,>alone in the dark, (in the shelter, down in the shelter)>hole in my heart. (in the shelter, way down in the shelter)
>>742151027What about selfcest?
>>742151074i Think she's supposed to be Gumshoe.
>>742150980The book is in Chapter 4.
>>742149873I want to fuck Ralsei stupid but I'm not into Asriel at all
>>742150930Suselle being canon was always going to kill discussion but we had two threads reaching 600+ posts at the same time
Toby loves his lesbians. He'll write some kino with Kris, Susie and Noelle I'm sure but there's no way he's cancelling suselle. That's done. Accept that, /v/, and you will find peace. Otherwise, you will cope with eternity
>>742151050Susie is also surprised by Gerson's dust and explains monster death in a way that sounds like she learned about it in school rather than intrinsically understanding it as a part of life. I think Susie is not a "monster" in the same sense as everyone else, but a different category like the flowers.
*/v/... Do you want to do... "something crazy...?"
>>742151291she's half human or an experiment?
>>742151027Don't care, they grew up as brothers and are treated as brothers so its cringe. I could maybe let it slide if it was femKris
>>742151272Are we gonna wait 20 years for a "director's cut" of the game with the Krusie route?
Did you know Flowery's theme is just Full House
>>742150930OK, honeymoon phase is overI think Chapter 5 was pretty good gameplay-wise and it's full of the usual good humor but it was absolutely shit for the fandom. There's not enough new content for the next WAITing journey. We're not even a week after release and people are already running out of things to talk about.
>>742150945In ch6A, no. In ch6B, she's going to snowgrave the entire town before Kris can even get to the closet.
>>742149152She reminds me of Number 3 from Codename Kids Next Door.
>>742151325Public sex?
>>742150782Toby, HATES HER. So Gaster's lapdog is selling her for 2 bucks
>>742151325You know it sweetheart!
Toby is not based enough to do gay sibling shit, you're only getting yuri NTR
>>742151325Yeah we could go to /tv/ and banepost or something wild like that, maybe I could even sneedpost after I've got a few drinks in me.
>>742149785>Vulkin
We need more Titans so I can kill more of them
Flower man is the best song in Deltarune
ENTER: THE TRVE HEROES OF DELTARUNE
>>742151128what the fuck did i just read?
>>742149785>femboy chara/frisk>vulkinnot sure if based or cringe
her and her were the best things of the entire game
>>742151462t.
I will kill Susie in chapter 6 for not letting me fuck the shit out of Pink.
>>742151358I can understand why Toby wanted to release it with 3 and 4. Realistically, he should have released 3 by itself much earlier, then did 4 and 5 together.
>Flowery
>>742150782>secret route if you kill the blue bird using noelle in chapter 2 and onionsan survives to day 4, thus revealing what is happening at the bottom of the lake to you and sussie when you rest at the beach
>>742149152>kris was like thisi understand dess now...
>>742151492No loli Frisk/Chara = crind
who is the BUG that gives the tea to mew mew?
You know after 5 chapters of being wrong I have feeling chapter 6 is when all our theories will come true ;)
I will fuck Ralsei, because...
>>742149152Jevil's daughter
>>742151481...And KEKris.
there's 3 trapdoors in the foyer of flower castle. One of them is used to escape from prison but what about other 2?
I still have the dokis for her
>>742151027>>742151347Incest plus FemKris. Take it.
>>742151417>gay siblingEwww
CH 6 HERE WE GODELTARUNE TOMORROW
>>742151593What have people been wrong about?
>>742151593Yea anon! Thats the spiritOne of us HAS to be right in the end
I don't think a character has made me do a 180° on them so fast before, jesus fucking christ Susie SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>742151596Ralsei would totally let you fuck him if you told him it was for the prophecy.
>>742151425>I was thinking more... two babies one fox postinghow do you respond?
i played undertae at release, i enjoyed it but i understand its shallow as an rpg and is really sold for the quirky interactions you can have. This isnt a knock at the game, its just what the game is.Is deltarune more of the same, or is it trying to be far more like an rpg?
>>742151523In hindsight, why did he even put that cliffhanger ending in 3 if it wasn't meant to be released alone? It lasts for like 2 minutes before you boot up Chapter 4.
>>742151481The Gasterwaffen
>>742151659Literally everything multiple times over now Kek
>be kris>noelle is just standing there for an uncomfortably long amount of time>she just suddenly says "I want that." and all hell breaks loosegood thing i'm not kris, this is your problem now buddy
>>742151417He does make straight incest in Undertale
>>742151672Would he be upset if it was a silly ruse on my behalf?
>>742149152
>>742151671>Cucks us out of Berdley>Cucks us out of Noelle>Cucks us out of Mew Mew>Cucks us out of our choicesShe must pay
>>742151681way more actual RPG mechanics, less of the 4th wall breaking that made UT a classic, except at the very beginning
>>742151581>>742150495loli Chara/Frisk are good to. I just prefer femboys
Who was your favorite flower from Ch 5 /v/?
>>742151013
>>742149152>>742149248I'm glad I'm not a pedo and can appreciate that actual best girl for normal, well-adjusted people.
>>742151481Goner Heil Gaster
>>742150129Onion was modified to not dust on death.
>>742151671Don't care what happens the second chapter 6 starts I'm sprinting into ghosy house with doll and fucking her right then and there.
>>742151725>This is your problem now buddy...Problem?
>>742151370probably closer to her sister than anything
>>742151681It's technically more complex than Undertale, but unfortunately a lot of it's potential is squandered for the "Don't fight anyone!" meme. If you liked Undertale's quirkiness, then you'll like Deltarune. But if you want an RPG that is actually mechanically rich, your best bet is finding something else.
So, what's your FINAL cope? Be sincere and honest. Show us your heart of hearts.
>>742151701that's how literally every episode ends, though. you're not always going to just move onto the next episode right away so it works as it is
>>742151505Hey, hey, "her"?
>>742151681There's more RPG stuff but it's still fairly shallow and barely matters.
>>742151842Chara kills Gaster Game breaks Weird route ends
>>742151481https://files.catbox.moe/0752wn.mp4
>>742150505It's probably something dumb, like Asriel's hair on Kris's clothes or something.
>>742151013>55,95% people still trust the dogHell yeah
>>742151809i am surprised they gave mew mew big tits
>>742151842Gaster actually showing up in his MysteryMan form is probably NEVER happening, but I want it to
>>742151681it starts off with decent rpg features but never develops them. There's also shitton of one time gimmicks
>>742151649>/v/ - I hate trannies>also /v/ - let me trannify a character because it makes my pp hard
Man my OC's old as hell https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/730045952/#730061892
>>742151593People are going to be so wrong that chapter 6 will mindbreak like 90% of the community
>>742149772>he is seen leaving a cake next to Susie's bed, completely playing along her delusions while she just lives in a closet. You'd think your best friends would be the first ones to point out "Dude, this isn't healthy".it's because Ralsei loves Susie and he knows she's going to diehe's enjoying the little bit of time he has left with her
>>742151248me too
>>742151804anon..the porn in which Susie fucks Ralsei with a 24 incher aren't canon. And you're already raping the doe in WR
>>742151013>55,95% people STILL trust the doglollmao
>>742151842That the show of strength game was meant to be subtext.>Noelle and Susie aren't on the same wavelength, but Susie pretends they are because she wants things to work out not realizing you can't force it after the fact and it still be the same
>>742151593Chapter 6 WILL have the Roots Dark World inside of the Shelter that receives its Darkness straight from the Depths, and Image Friend WILL be the secret boss who is absurdly tough if you don’t have Seam’s special sauce, and the Knight rematch WILL be the chapter boss.Come to think of it… are we getting the SkyMantle eventually?
>>742151842Berdly fucks Kris on their pussy
Now that the threads have slowed down, the NTR posting should start slowing down too. Enough about it already.
>>742151792Aqua because she kinda reminds me of fanon Chara, the rest can eat shit and die for all I care
>>742151809I slept on her when she got her Switch fight but the Mew Mew porn from the Deltarune era has been nothing short of exquisite
I just finished chapter 3 weird routewas there really no differences besides that one line in the game shelterI beat the knight in 3 triesam I a god gamer
>>742151809But it's also half-gay
>the Nintendo switch boss is the shadow crystal bossMakes sense but I could see Toby being threatened by Nintendo for that trailer spot
>>742151809fuck susie and fuck ralsei they really did kris dirty by cucking him once more and they really did ME dirty by undoing all my hard work
>>742151894KEKKK
>>742152018Sorry anon, we just got the cuck chapter, I'm afraid the cuckposting will not stop until chapter 6
>>742151842Three routes from this point on, Weird Aborted and Normal, Aborted route leads to twisted sword and ablility to travel back in time, ending the game before it even started SIKE now you have to beat the Gaster and his goon squad
>>742150594>Implying Chara and frisk aren't lolis
Freaking thread being bumped so much it looks like a sticky
>>742152031>bulge on the lefthuh?
>>742152031
>>742139589Is this what Toby's game is about?
>>742151842it's setup for Suselle to also die horribly
>Chapter 7>Ralsei is killed>Susie is killed>Kris is killed>all hope is lost>except we're still present
>>742149248>I don't know whyYou're a pedo
>>742152025Myn is yellow because of the sprite work
>>742151841>a lot of it's potential is squandered for the "Don't fight anyone!" meme.ACTs and bullet patterns are essentially unique "spells/skills" and gameplay mechanics for every single fight in the gameI really don't understand anyone who wants Deltarune to be more like a generic RPG instead of playing into its unique strengths
>>742149658
>>742152031Why is there a bulge it's a fucking ghost
>>742151842Gaster isn't and has never been in Deltarune, the narrator is completely unrelated and egg man is the deltarune equivalent of gaster but not the same character
>>742152031Prostate milking AND titty milking
>>742151894queengpt, is this real
I said a while back all it took for me to look into a game and shill for it was a mekakure loli but i don't think i'd like this game. Aqua looks extremely cute and i am being dangerously tempted by her. I think i'd be too slow and retarded for the "fights".
https://youtu.be/GWf9_qSrnOM
>>742151842Noelle is going to pull a Homestuck and become her version of Lord English to attain Ultimate Freedom
>beat 5 schizo bosses that are hard >still don’t know what we get
>>742151894KINO
>>742149152Only good character from Chapter 5.
>>742152086>We end up puppeting Kris corpse to resurrect the others while screaming "I didn't hear no motherfucking bell"
>Throws juice on the face of a terminally-ill family friend inside of a church
>>742151842I have no copes or dreamsI am free, free
>>742152110it's unique strength is the heart gameplay and your picture is the only interesting fight we got from chapters 3+4
>>742151013>a significant amount of people unironically believe that suselle is shit on purpose
>>742151809cute cute cute cuuute CUTE
>>742151957>characters gender is never stated>unisex namenot everything is about trannies
>>742151505Seth is a guy's name so I can't see this character as anything but a guy. Sorry.
>>742152161https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKnw61N9IqM
>>742151957>trannify a character>with no outright stated gender, but has a surprising amount of evidence suggesting they're actually femaleeven if there was no evidence, you cannot trannify a character that isn't outright stated to be male or femaleyou simply bend the rules a bit and decide on one and go with it
>>742151804>What could have beenAll four characters would have been happy and all would be well in the world, it was that easy Toby come on
Come follow me into the darkWith your heart as the arkWhich shall shine you the wayBecause I'm with you in the darkWith your heart as my markWhich shall guide you the way,through the waves
>>742151537Dess was a visionary.
>>742152191Based
>>742151842Not sure if I'd call it a cope or not, but I can't really call CH5 'filler' (not fully anyway) when it feels like it honestly works well to paint a pretty depressing picture for the last two chapters. Because CH4 gave the vibe that the trio, even Kris, were potentially prepared to defy fate. And yet:>Kris continues to work with the knight/third-party despite the shame it brings (due to his promise)>Ralsei basically is putting all his faith in shit somehow working, and is completely against even trying to go against the rules unlike flowery>Susie doubling down harder into escapism, and unintentionally feeding back into the prophecy (might be due to whatever the 'tragedy' is)So, it almost makes it feel tragic at how this whole adventure for the gang is more or less an attempt to go out with a bang. Even though at this point, their relationships are starting to reach their limit due to all the secrets and hidden agendas. It makes me hopeful that CH6 will depict a pretty nasty fallout for everyone, rather than playing it straight
>>742152086>But it refused
>>742152201Slut
>>742151894I'm convinced toby actually made this because it's 1:1 his sense of humor
>>742151505Needs correction
>>742152031Damn it feels good to be a bichad
really no one cares about who is the bug who gave tea to this bitch? no ideas? do you have a clear explanation?
All Eggs will be used to make a cinnamon pie.
>>742151894kbc
>>742151781You're gay, but not cringe.
>>742152176>Its a joke item with no impact on anything
I just finished with everything, or everything I know of at least, in Chapter 5 earlier and so I haven't been up to date on the discussion or reception around it, but did people think it was one of the weaker chapters? I didn't think that personally, though I did have some problems with it, but I saw some people saying they were disappointed in it which surprised me.
>>742152162does that mean that noelle will go on about he she LIKES HOW SALTY IT IS. WHEN A BITCH GROWS OUT OF HER SKELETAL PHASE. AND HER FRAME REALLY BEGINS TO CHALLENGE THE HORIZONTAL DIMENSIONS.
>>742151896Raly is still present in the castle town dw in chapter 5 when kris isnt there though
>>742151994ikr? they never learn. we know toby keeps an eye on the community thanks to the mike pippins scene. I would like to know if we have strong indications that he also read these threads...
>>742152191what goes on over at /dark/?
>>742151894The kind of shit Toby would actually write
>>742152110I do think we’ll be getting more encouragement to FIGHT in some battles, but I expected more of that after the Knight in Ch3 and the Titan Spawns + Titan in Ch4. I guess thematically Ch5 is more lighthearted though; playing in-character I didn’t want to hurt Flowery.
>>742151842Noelle attaining her freedom will end well.
>>742151481
>>742151792Aqua
>>742151809LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER
My ship had zero, absolutely zero chance of happening, so I'm never disappointed - only a disappointment.
>>742152161>Almost die to this fag due to the rainbow effect making me think he's invincible>The scene afterwards where he reveals his stats are fake and that the only thing stopping anyone from killing him was knowing thatFor all the shit this chapter had, this was a nice touch.
Ever since I finished Chapter 5 I've been doing nothing but posting in these threads. There's no other game that makes me feel this way where I want to constantly talk about it. How does Toby do it? Did he give me autism?
>>742152031Ok, this concept is extremely hot. Gotta figure out a drawing for this.
>>742152162>Noelle guns down Gaster and/or Toby in 7B
>>742151842Geno Chara pulls up and erases deltartune's world
>>742151894So THAT’S WHY the Knight seemed so exhausted in Chapter 5
>>742152332>no one cares about who is the bug who gave tea to this bitch? no ideas? do you have a clear explanation?Dude?
In a way those were the souls from undertale >>742152161
>>742151894what's the name of the song? i cant remember where it plays
Asriel is dead and you're carrying around his ashes and that's what Ralsei is. Mum and Dad are pretending he's "at college" to spare your feelings and thats why his part of your room is untouched - a precious memory, just like Dess.
>>742152031>the bulgeoh hell no>>742152201whoriel will pretty much open up her legs for any male that isn't asgore while kris has to listen. that's really sad. mad mew mew is the ultimate middle finger to this shit in all senses
>>742152358I thought the chapter itself was fine but the lack of meaningful plot development so late in the game was frustrating; after letting it settle and accepting it for what it is I'm ok with things as they stand
>>742152393Kingdom Hearts 4 looking good
>>742151842I don't care about anything, I just need answers.
>>742152358>did people think it was one of the weaker chapters? YesBut after some time i think people don't consider its as bad
>>742152428>How does Toby do it?well his whole schtick is to end on two dozen cliff hangers every 6-12 months so that probably has something to do with it
>>742152425Doelestation is real and DID happen
Why can't we turn back on Voice Clips for Flowery? Obviously it's an external force but I can't see why anyone either than Ralsei would want it stay off and he doesn't mess with menus from what I remember.
>>742152015>SkyMantleFuture Holy:Electric boss… but where?
>>742152462Pirate Dojohttps://youtu.be/RWADynlMHZw
>>742152332Spiders aren't "bugs" but the answer is pretty obvious
>>742149248Your brain is warped in a way where the part that is supposed to take care of your daughters and the part where your lovers go get switched.
>>742152428It's always a festive mood when chapters release or we get more news. I definitively spend a lot more time on /v/ when we get more Deltarune.
>>742152428Only 2 more chapters to do this two. Everyone cant wait but I love Tobe Fawks Wild Ride
>>742152428You have a severe addiction to furries
>>742152458>>742152535yes, but we never see her in deltarune. am i wrong? she is in this darkworld, knows about the coloring heart battle dynamics, and she is hinted at in chapter 4 with the offerings stuff, but where is she in practice
>>742152519>Holy:ElectricSounds pretty Asriel esque based on Undertale
>>742152521Thanks a lot king. New ringtone for the summer.
>>742152043Amen!It's revolting considering Kris helped her out with Noelle, then he gets this in return.Fuck Susie, and fuck Ralsei, weird route is best route.If the humiliation continues into the 6th chapter, it will further prove the weird route being the best one for skipping it entirely.
>>742152025Aqua was made for the faithful that knew Toby was a cunnychad from the beginning
>>742151957Genderbending is a different thing + Kris is a girl because it's hotter that way
>>742151894>I never knew piracy was a crime, I just wanted to play undertale
>>742152585why would her teach a random lightener how to battle in dark worlds at all?
>>742151841>for the "Don't fight anyone!" memeWhy would anyone fight? Undertale at least had the genocide route which gave a reason to fight on the 3rd playthrough, there's no such thing here so why would I pick the less interesting option about what to do in-between the soft-bullet-hell turns?
>>742152428It's 100% vaguepostingObviously this is a newer term for this technique but it is 100% thathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VaguepostingI'm not familiar with Homestuck really but I'm assuming it used to do this kind of thing too
>>742151842I see the vision Toby is going for. Susie isn't being mind controlled, she's just scared - and she's acting out of fear and disillusionment. We'll spend chapter 6 breaking her out of her escapism and getting her to accept that the real world is real, and that the dark world isn't her home. We'll also learn near the end of chapter 6 as we do this (Susie will tell us) that the prophecy states the dark worlds have to be closed forever. The ending, of course, will be us subverting this prophecy and making the dark worlds remain open regardless. The more I listen to the music of ch 5 (in particular the weird route lake OST and the egg room piano) the more I get this melancholic feeling. I don't think he would have Susie be mind controlled, she's just way out of her depth and wasn't ready to be exposed to such a living fantasy as the dark world is.
>>742152065I'm saying the opposite, that they are lolis and that he was a coward that needed to wait for an unambiguous one.
>>742152286i love pic related, that's what i'd do if i could. then i'd ditch suselle and tralsei and play vidya with berdly before having ghost cat threesome
Despite everything It’s still Proceed
So when my actual vessel comes back? I'm tired of piloting this little cuck.
>>742152393my fuarking HEROES>a-andHEROES
>>742151894the knight saying fuck you as they go past is still my favorite bit
>"Someday, someone might make you disappear. And she'll finally realize how happy she is without you.">Kris crumpled in bed, dragged out shaking in defiance>Toriel tries to support him, doesn't know what to do>Susie notices and tries to cheer him up, maybe even succeeds for a moment>says to Kris is that he is still important to her and she'll be there for him still>this is the last thing she ever says to him >both of the people she cares about most disappears, there were warning signs>"Someday, someone might make you disappear. And she'll finally realize how happy she is without you."Delicious
>When Kris seems to be all alone in the endgame>"Call for help! I dare you!">"But nobody ca-"
I'm not feeling very determined...
>kris asks noelle out>noelle says: oh thats nice but you see I'm a lesbian>kris tells her its okay since they're nonbinary so they can be a woman>"uh, yeah I meant I date women, not trannies"
>>742152673It's called mystery boxing, anon
It refused
>tfw realizing the best song from chapter 5 is only 30 secondshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGbJbxiXS0o
I will be honest I liked flowers more as main darkners than all those quickly charismatic memebaits from previous chapters. Flowers feel sincere and genuine. Except that blue fag and shitty secret boss>thanks for watching our dream
>>742151894canon btw
>>742152786please god let this happen it would be so fucking funny
>>742152505The ruse cruise
Might be a bit silly to say seeing as it could always go another direction, but it really felt like it was hammering in that the final prophecy was the dissolution of Castle Town. I don't think everything needs to be a big surprise, but I kind of hope that's not what the final prophecy is because it seems a little too obvious.
In the extreme unlikelihood that You will be able to type something as your first words to Kris, what would they be?
>>742152335They will be used to make a birthday cake for Bob the Builder's birthday.
>>742152816>Sorry to keep you waiting!
>>742152425This ship is more canon than Krusie nowadays.
>>742152786>>kris tells her its okay since they're nonbinary so they can be a womanwhat kind of sexuality would even want to fuck someone who can't even be clear about the shape of their genitals
>>742152673there was definitely a lot of vagueness surrounding whatever the fuck aspect powers did that was never answered but the narrative itself was pretty straightforward
>>742152853"Dw nigga I hate Suselle too"
>>742152816Eveywhere I goEverywhere I seeAsgore standing thereSmilin back at me
>>742152853I love you
>>742152853cuck
>>742152853chicken butt
>>742152358It was fun and creative but almost everything it did story-wise was character development (and regression) which is too subtle for people who expected Things to Actually HappenI think Toby overplayed his hand with the foreshadowing for this chapter, Asgore's own investigation and involvement in the conspiracy could have been an interesting surprise but we basically knew everything that the chapter told us already from Chapter 4.I think the consensus will settle around it being in the middle
>>742152673Serialized manga do this every week. Making addictive story slop is an elaborate art form.
>>742149785>femboy Chara/FriskBased anon is based
>>742152890Someone should ask toby that in an interview where he's not allowed to skip.
>They're horrified of what the angel looks likeWhat if they're looking at the Knight without its armor, being a melty amalgamate of Kris and Noelle?
>>742152821Honestly fair as fuck, especially because the castle town in CH5 raised the obnoxiousness of the humor with them. It feels odd because on their own, plenty of the characters are good or even great, but all together? It's too much man.
>>742152428For all the people whining about Chapter 5 “not moving the plot forward” (we DID learn a fucking lot of important details from it but I digress) I am glad we did get “one last adventure with the boys”. This may be the last time we get to theorycraft while Deltarune still feels like a big unknown missing important pieces, and I’ve had a lot of fun theorycrafting and poking around for details the past week.
Random thought, but even if things get changed around in development, the “as long as you tell me to do it, I can do anything” lines were probably thought out pretty early. It makes more sense to me to assume Jevil was scripted to foreshadow that than the opposite.
>>742152687True, but to be fair I don't blame most for not accepting it considering how vague it was and not much fanart of loli Chara/Frisk
>>742152853do you like fish sticks?
>>742152715Chapter 7.
>>742152853"melt the closet handles while Susie is in castle town"
>>742152423Rapists are neither normal or well-adjusted.
>>742152821I agree. I don't necessarily dislike Pink though, but I was disappointed in her because the tone of the shop has such a melancholic and immediately effective feel to it that to go from that to the actual character is a letdown. I didn't even feel like it was the same character when I went to the shop afterwards. I'm not against it being MewMew and having the whole dating sim/idol thing in principle, but I wish that atmosphere you get in her shop was more felt when you meet her proper. As is, it just feels like a bit of a bait-and-switch, with what's being switched in being a lot less impactful.
>>742152358I liked the dark world, great gameplay, great companion story to Undertale, great music, it's good to see the trio, I can't say I give a shit about the overarching story however.
>>742152853Assuming direct control
>>742151945>big tits>*look inside*>small boobs
>>742149152Chapter 5 was by far the gayest one so far, but what really pisses me off was the alluding that Ralsei will eventually blatantly present as a tranny.WHY CAN'T TWINKS BE TWINKS?!
>>742152996
>>742152853
>>742151357I'd believe it
>>742152976i must be too easyi actually laughed out loud at the spin cake guy saying "Lightners only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting". And at the music guy in the dojo. And at sticking your hand in the cliff hole. And at nubert. I might be a normalfag T_T
The hometown citizens are goner children of gaster…
>>742152459Yeah. Probably the closest to a "canon" version of them.
>>742152996...
>>742152853kris chross applesauce
>>742152853>This is the start of something Very Special Kris.Or>BE NOT AFRAIDFor the memes
>>742152428carefully constructed ragebait
>>742152963Ralsei doesn't seem that horrified.
>>742152728>"Nobody is here to save yo-"* Wrong.
>>742152728Perhaps the purpose of secret bosses was for Kris and the soul to start working together, so that way we'd be able to beat something we normally couldn't with the full array of Kris' skills he has hidden from us.
>>742153052>the alluding that Ralsei will eventually blatantly present as a tranny.Like what?
>>742152976I laughed at Jack getting copyright claimed and the starwalker bit, along with everything with queen.
>>742152853>This vessel sucks ass. Is that ok?
>>742151671>get called out for flirting with everyoneMy guy you control the buttons you oress. No one made you a slut but yourself
>>742152963It could be anything. Toby is annoyingly persistent in doing the whole "characters talking about something the player can't see or doesn't know about" schtick.
>>742152727I didn't think of it before but that being the last time Susie sees both Kris and Noelle is actually extremely messed up.
What if Biboo is the knight?
>>742152853FUCK NOELLE
>>742152031>the bulgeoh hell yes
>>742153089Bro is hallucinating more interesting plots in his head
>>742152853"SAVE"
>>742153052That was alluding to him either being a tranny, or the forestAnd thats why plant ralsei is my favourite theory nowdays
>>742153086I feel it was funny in CH4 but in 5 it's like they got a teenager obsessed with 'dEltArOt' to write it>>742153145He's referring to this scene if I can guesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWWTfhjcPkk
>>742152031does it become a futanari if they merge?
>>742152853I wouldn't say anything I would just listen cuz thats what no one else did
>>742152853That knife in your hands said you made up your mindThere's a price you expect now for taking her life and it's mineAnd an eye for an eye is a pretty fair costWhy play a hand when you've already lost
>>742149152>>742149152>>742149152This is the TRUE Aqua.Not that impostor.
>>742153018I didnt even realize they were the same person until later
>>742152853"penis"Hopefully he would laugh
>flowers who were only designed to live one day>thank you for listening to this flower's dreamidk man this chapter kinda fucked me up even if it had less for lore
>>742152853>Kris my nigga let me take over and I will get you some deer AND dino pussy at the same time>trust the fucking process, okay?
>>742152031jackpot
>>742152853*Its showtime!
>>742152585Muffet was basically just a guest character design (Kickstarter donation goal for an artist), so Toby is avoiding outright bringing her back. She could exist offscreen as a real spider or Lightner, but we're likely never seeing her in Deltarune. Why? Toby probably has some hang up on reusing guest characters from the Kickstarter, since I can't imagine the original artist would refuse to let him reuse her.
>>742153251go away jeet
>>742152963The Angel is us
>>742153180Weird Route Susie basically has it the worst, being completely unaware of a trainwreck going on in the background. We know that Kris and Noelle didn't die but from her perspective, they might as well had.
>>742149152Chapter 5 fucking sucksSuselle fucking sucksMad mew fucking sucks (sexually)
>>742153251sorry anon, nobody likes a whiny womanchild.they like a cute childchild.
>>742149152Toby got you thinking they have backstory relevance kek
>>742153018I remember recognizing that the shopkeep had cat ears but not the MewMew silhouette, so until the fight happened I was wondering if it would be something Friend-related and/or a secret additional flower that would serve as a Chara reference (playing into the expectation that some of the secret bosses are things that don’t get proper boss fights in Undertale).
>>742152963
The shadow boss schizos represent the five stages of grief…
>>742152853"Stop hitting me you stupid cuck I'm trying to HELP"
>>742153169thanks reddit
>>742152853Mayonegg
>>742153052Sorry, but boys can only be masculine and girls can only be feminine. Step out those boundaries and you're a tranny in denial. Such is the progressive way
Since Chapter 5 is more or less confirmed as the last "normal" Dark World, how would you rank them? For me it's>1) Dark Sanctuary>2) Cyber City>3) T.V. Time>4) Flower Kingdom>5) Card Kingdom
>Flowery boss got nerfed, apparently.Did people have problems with Flowery's bossfight, or something? I can understand Mew Mew, I kind of stumbled myself into beating her on my 3rd attempt after using all my items, but fucking FLOWERY? I don't get that.
>>742153217I'm pretty sure this was a visual gag. There's no cannon evidence he actually wants to chop off his cock.
Secret route status?
>>742152853ur a faget
>>742153269Congrats anon, you’ve learned “plot relevance” isn’t the end all be all to something being impactful.
>>742152428deltarune threads around release time are some of the most fun threads to be in, they'll start to get stale again soon though
>>742151248but what if Asriel is omega chad Asriel in DR
>>742152853QUIT BEING A BITCH
>>742153314Toby Fox would love Aqua thoughbeit. She would fit in Undertale honestly with her facial expressions and wacky personality (if she was anthro-fied)
>>742153275>immediately fumbles both>closes the game
>>742153389Aborted
>>742153385They couldn't handle his JARONA
So is chapter 6 going to take place on a weekday? It seems like Saturday was the church and Sunday was the festivalIf that's the case, Snowy and Monsterteen will be absent because they're dead, Berdley could be injured or dead, Susie will be a delusional schizo who crawls out of the closet only because Ralsei tells her to. Noelle could be stressed by her father's situation and could potentially be a schizo in the weird route, Catti's depressed, and the teacher can't get ahold of her crush.At least Jockington's beard could cheer people up?
>>742153381>progressive space>look inside>enforcement of gender roles
I feel like something bad is going to happen. I feel like something bad has happened, but it hasn't reached us yet. It's beginning to dawn on us that DELTARUNE might have been a colossal waste of time.
>>742153383>1) Cyber City>2) Flower Kingdom>3) Dark Sanctuary>4) Card Kingdom>5) T.V. Time
>>742152428These threads have been the highlight of 4chan for me.It's going to suck ass when we reach the end.
>>742152853https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXMgLYqqS3A
>>742153385They were both easy but Flowery was a lot harder. And that isn't supposed to be the case right, I mean the secret boss is supposed to be more challenging
>>742153202Kris was a mime?
>>742150129The probably replaced all of Onion's body with Indian 3D printer Goner Parts, so he's technically not dead, but he's made out of plastic from the Ganges River and controlled with an RC car remote.
i still haven't done weird routeI just got to chapter 4 finallydid I already miss all the good threads
>>742152853"Useless"
>>742153383Exactly the same
>>742153459My Berdly is safe and willing to save the cunt squad in their darkest hour.
>>742152963Susie doesn't like the assimilation prophecy because it means she has to fuck Noelle and Kris at the same time and this angers her because Kris was meant to be her friend who isn't allowed to make other friends (this characterization will be contradicted in ch 6 as Susie becomes a different character every chapter- proof that Susie is a goner and every Susie is actually one swapped from an asked ant timeline). This is not due to bad and careless writing.
>>742153169It's still incredibly fucked up to ruin your best friend's chances because of that. There's nothing wrong with someone who isn't tied down trying to search for love.
>>742152853Melon
>>742153484Toby wrote that 5 was the last fun adventure with the group. From now on out, things are only going to get worse.
>>742153386I don't see it either, but you give some faggots an inch they'll run a mile
>>742152358Chapter 5 makes Chapter 3 look like a work of art honestly. Good luck fixing this mess.
>>742153385Deltarune's fanbase is a wide audience, toby wants the game to be accessible as possible even if it means nerfing things. Honestly he should have just put in an easy mode instead of patching out difficulty anytime someone struggles with a boss.
>>742153484>I feel like something bad has happened, but it hasn't reached us yet.Ch5 dropped like 5 days ago, that's what happened
>>742153385I had slight trouble, 3-5 deaths , I think he a lot easier if you got the 19 pink coins and all the flower gear first though, it kind of trivializes him and I skipped the side content first so I could get to /v/ threads faster.
Mad Mew Mew gives dry, unenthusiastic handjobs with some squeezing thrown in
>fucking Onion San is an important character nowFuck off Toby
>>742153442unironically his Jarona move with Orange was the only one I couldn't figure out the timing to
>>742153589I like Chapter 3.
>>742153520Nah, Mew Mew was much harder in virtue of asking me to play bomberman.
Ojou-sama Dess...
>>742153269I dunno Flowy got lifetimes and he hated it
>chapter 6>things go south>kris is mortally injured>fun gang is in shambles>no one is going to he->text box appears>you can type into it>suddenly
>>742151842I don't get why everyone is so angry at Suzie, it feels to me like they're setting her up for a colossal failure and reality check. She's basically run away from home and is sleeping in a closet now, and is about to run up to Noelle with her ailing dad and ask her to play in a closet. I'm actually really worried for her because she's in the position to lose everything if even one adult asks what's going on with her.Doesn't help that the Dark World is actually just full of stolen items from around town, it'd be too easy for Susie's rep to get her in real trouble if people figured out where the stuff was going. No doubt she has a dogshit home life if she never bothered to call her parents before staying over and is so willing to go all in on the Dark World Hero stuff while Kris is still struggling with their worldly attachments and relationships.I dunno, I just don't get the vitriol unless you just really hate Suzelle, and it's not like Suzie would know Kris' feelings for Noelle, especially since she doesn't even know "Kris", just the weird vessel they are now.
>>742153623important? hes literally a bowel movement now
>>742152853The aristocrats
>>742153614can the body take over for a min, not into cbt
>>742152995Yeah, even though they're kiddos a lot of their art is just aged up, which Aqua seems to be avoiding so far.
>vague posting-Gaster
>>742152853Considering how many responses he programmed for the ARG, I wouldn't be surprised if the game actually has one user input interaction. Maybe limited to a handful of pre-selected words or letter limits.
>>742150505I think he is a tree that got kris' old horns tangled on its roots
>>742153623Its important to have balanced diet
>>742153385Flowery whipped my ass for a bitI beat him pre nerf though
>>742153623I don't know that he's an important character, he just had a run-in with something important. He could never appear again and it wouldn't feel odd at all. His most appropriate re-appearance would be as the partial remains of his corpse.
>>742153623Yep, very important for the recipe
>>742153385If Susan is down during her idea his jarona is bullshit
>>742153661Your BPDemon is uncontrollable and we have to accept it
>>742152853My boy, this piece is what all true warriors strive for!
Petal Dance (nsfw)https://x.com/lumineko_arts/status/2071101025180868799
>>742153714you mean the
>>742153389Sword is Kris for Chapter 6.
>>742153645A consequence of serialized games, obviously this is setting her up for some kind of character development but we're gonna have to wait a year to see it so when you finish the game you come off thinking "wow susie is a cunt"
>>742153714One of the sound tests "songs" was meat factory, so its more likely than you would expect
So when does Ch 6 come out?
>>742153737will anything top the knight?
>>742153589not even Knight boss fight can redeem ch3, it's the worst. I like the idea of secret real video game and also like how it destroyed the pattern (that came back again in ch4 and 5 lol) but unfortunately both those ideas aren't realized fully
>>742153749this fucking image cracks me up every time man
>>742152853"Let's kick some prophecy ass"
>>742153734alas
>>742153794If it isnt Jan 1st 2027 I'm gonna REE
>>742152786this is the funny shit that doesn't ever dawn on any of the xitter freaks>omg susie and noelle is heccin wholesome yuri>ew kris with anyone is icky hetslop evendoe we stan they as our they-king
>>742153626you delay a little bit because orange is slower
>>742153665Undertale was all vagueposting, that's Toby's writing style.
so did anyone check on komu?artist really liked krusie (and I think didnt kill him/herself because of this ship)I think komu might have genuinely killed themselves now
>Hey guys, I think I found a glue!
>>742153484>Noelle facing the reality of her Dad dying>Susie, coming up with the fantastical wonderland that can heal him(it won)Also the fucking gonet roster is growing for some reason and are killing people.
>>742152853Toby Fox did 9/11>>742152358>Chapter gets set-up by previous chapter as huge things happening>People hype it up like crazy on every hint and foreshadowing that might come to fruition in this chapter>It's just cute fun stuff up>Actual stuff only happens at the very end of the chapterIt's just chapter 3 all over again.It's good, but the pay off is a bit different than what we expected.
>>742153385I beat him and Mew Mew on my second try. When does the weakening of Flowery kick in if you keep losing?
>Golly Gee! Thanks, Susie for cucking me out of a date with Mew Mew!! I can't believe that evil SOUL would EVER let me have any kind of romance that isn't watching you and Noelle go at it like Dess and Asrial while listening to Jefre Cantu-Ledesma for that authentic cuck experience!! I'M SUCH A HAPPY KEK!! YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOO
>>742153794Probably around now next year, maybe sooner if we are very lucky
>>7421537942028 but its going to be 6+7 like the OG plan 10 years ago
>>742153389Twisted
why is suselle so fucking lame tho? like not even the usual loud yurifaggots seem to enjoy it. that's how you know my main man radiation just completely fumbled it (unless that's part of the plan)
What happens if you said you were going to go with berdly to the festival in chapter 4?
>>742153539Does this ever not have the opposite than intended effect?>>742153251If you're going to post an off topic Aqua, at least post a good one. Probably the only good character this show has
>>742153645Shipping is a mental illness.
My name is W D Gaster and I loved Ch 5 and The Fun Gang
>>742153668I think if we ever type anything ut will be to restore the game after gaster turns off UI
>>742153385orange fucks up the block timinglilypad was also a bit trickyI didn't die but it was much harder than something like King's fight. Of course, it's much later in the game, so it probably could've stayed that way.
Reminderhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhHeNhTtCewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGGsasEZ8O4
>>742153623he doesn't like that idea either
>>742152853Whatever I said to Mettaton EX in Undertale.
>>742152853You have to eat all the eggs
>>742153749it looks like he's soijak pointing
What word comes to mind when you look at this dragon?
>>742153614if she actually likes you she'll make you see heaven
>>742153385Flowery wasn't bad. I slipped up first time getting used to the new heart mechanic but then beat him. Mew Mew's main bitch move are the mini bombs
>>742153623he was always important if you actually interact with people in the game instead of trying to blitz through everything
>>742153385I almost died to him at the very end but i lost ralsei somewhere during the orange phase.I dont get why the final boss of the chapter isnt allowed to be challenging when the game drowns you in equipment and healing items especially when you can grind super quick in CH5 too. Does he balance every chapter assuming someone out there plays them all standalone with no save data?
>>742153806The way it made it's rounds right before the chapter released has me convinced toby has hands everywhere
>>742153794chapter 3,4,5 got released during faggot months due to...toby being a closeted. He also communicated that ch 6 was relatively easy to do soo probably it's june 2027
>>742153889straight men in their 30s do not know how to write teenage lesbian romance
Kill everyone
>>742153794The 1st nintendo direct of 2027
>>742153803I sure hope so; it feels like we haven’t had anything that fully competes with Sans for “hardest Toby Fox boss” yet, but maybe that’s understandable for a 7-chapter game
>>742153579Toby Fox is as much of a provocateur as his mentor, Hussie. That's the issue... Both Toby and Hussie treat audience frustration as the goal of their craft rather than the byproduct the form of their art has taken.Do not be surprised when DELTARUNE is literally just a gigantic middle-finger to everyone who played it like Homestuck was.
>>742152853>*turns around and spreads my ass, revealing my perfectly red asshole*>Not bad, eh?
>>742153794june/july next year, or we're getting both 6 & 7 in 2028 in december
>>742149152Aqua
>>742153934Fool.
>>742153664Aqua attracted all the cunnysseurs immediately and the influx of fanart attracted so many more that it's too late for detractors people to deny it
sustingus
>>742153794Christmas 2026trust
I really liked when Green casually returned Susie's fist bump with zero hesitation. It was cute and solidified they/them's basedness.
>>742153889If it's apart of the plan I hope it causes major seethe everywhere but hereIt'd be funny
>>742152853"A PEN AND PAPER WOULD HAVE HELPED"
>>742153934Barney
>>742153916>gaster didnt order the hit on onionsan >it was Toby fox himselfAnnoying dog cartel is most brutal criminal organization in hometown
>>742153916>hated onionsan so much he just had him get killed and eaten
>>742153623Don't worry he'll chicken on it like with the knight offing tenna, snowgrave deep freezing berdly, gerson not being allowed to rest in peace (and no freaky version abomination in the Susie fucked dark world is too spooky for deltatrooners), flowery getting snapped (implied to recover already damn man) and the doe rape.
>>742153937Spamton stop posting on /v/
>>742153640>he forgot the caps lockmy gaster speaks in HANDS not HOMESTUCK ok
>>742153893I liked Aquamarine too. She's one of the few who didn't suck up to Steven in the end.
>>742153805Chapter 3 feels accidental. But Chapter 5 feels mean spirited and honestly left a bad taste on my mouth. The Mew Mew scene is like the drop that spilled the glass. Mean by the sake of mean. If Susie doesn't naked dogeza in the next chapter I honestly doubt I'm going to forgive her character in any meaningful way.
>>742153794I'm thinking either December 2026 or winter 2027. Aligns best to the news of how Chapter 6 is supposedly shorter and almost done.
>>742153934it used to be... friend
>>742153385I never died to Flowery, even when I was going blind at the 30FPSMewmew kicked my butt in comparison.
Ralsei is either a developer or the first npc to gain sentience
>>742153856Will bisexual Japanese art lady be okay?
>>742153934BIMBOblame that on the recent chapter
>>742152428No idea but same here. How do YOU cope with it? consume similar media? Dive into actual cesspool that is the fandom? Consume porn of DELTARUNE?
>>742154001Hell I thought Ch 5 wasnt coming until like OctoberMaybe he's actually speeding up the process
>NORMALNPC THE WEIRD ONION IS GETTING VERY VERY CLOSE TO MY MEAT FACTORY(TM) CAN YOU GIVE THEM A SUBTLE WARNING TO FUCK OFF>subtle warning, got it boss
>>742153934cunt
>>742153794december 25
>>742153385>>742153940I had to take a few tries to beat him (I think four?); maybe a skill issue, but it also felt like my frame rate wasn’t fully keeping up with the speed of some of the orange soul segments. I had a similar feeling against the Knight’s sword tunnel last year.
>>7421533851st try for Flowery, the only annoying thing was ralsei leaving, since I didn't brng enough heal items and was using his buffer heal.3rd try for Mew Mew, probably the easiest secret boss, she could be buffed a bit, perhaps nerf her bomb spam and buff everything else.
>>742154079well MY Vessel Mc4chan SPEAKS homestuck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykz_TtuO1Ck
>>742153893How is Aqua not the best Aqua tho? She has the most charisma out of all them.
>>742149248she is literally the first and ONLY toby fox loli.and boy what a first and only.
>>742153985You say that as if it’s inherently a bad thing. Everyone complains about when authors say “fuck you” to the fans, but does anyone ever consider that maybe the fans deserve it?
>>742154123
>>742152358I played the game from Chapter 2 through until Chapter 5 in two sittings to do weird route, and out of those chapters it was absolutely the weakest, Chapter 5's first half and all of its unique encounters, except for maybe Aqua and Seth, were bad/ no particularly fun. The setting and art direction was probably the best its been in the second half of Chapter 5's dark world, and the platformer gimmick was mostly fine, if under utilized (many unique mechanics that only exist for maybe one or two rooms, then disappear)Then looking at what happens in regards to the story and character's, and its just bad. The whole chapter feels like it almost exists in isolation from the other ones in many ways, no progress, stakes which were previously high have dropped to CH 2 levels, the Noelle/ Susie date chaperoning was pretty terrible if, on top of multiple other NPC's having cuckoldry themed interactions or events (too slow at Castle Town minigame, the NPC from CH1 getting cucked, Susie during the MewMew Date w/Kris, the end of the normal chapter, and I think there was even one more)I disliked how much the chapter felt like "Remember CH1? Remember Undertale?!"Broadly it was just OK, but if you look at individual things its very clear this chapter was just not up to the standards of the others.
Chapter 7 Side A and Chapter 7 Side B are going to happen side by side and you will need to accept your inputs applying to both Krises for the whole chapters.
>>742153220jej
Did Nintendo threaten Toby to add Mew Mew?
>>742153978That screen corrolates to the two apartment buildings in hometown
>>742154076Well I mean the game does say your choices don't matterMaybe that's what the WR is for, having a choice matter
>>742153893a lot of my headcanon voices come from that show ngl. it had good va tbqh.
>>742150782Rip sweet princess
>>742153385He was unironically harder than Mew Mew.
>>742153934protect
>>742153934disappointed
>>742153934dumbass (negative)
>>742151354Someone will make a mod sooner than later.
>>742153934Forgive.I trust the plan.
>>742152853Hope you like doe pussy, because it's the only thing on the menu
>What's her name, Marigold the Giant Rat?
>>742152853I LOVE TV
>>742152332>who is the bug who gave tea to this bitch? no ideas? do you have a clear explanation?it's muffetpeople calling spiders "bugs" is a very common misconception
>>742154141I found Spamton easier desu.
>>742153934Chalk
> C H A P T E R 7 S I -You can’t scare me Gaster FUN GANG HERE WE GO
>>742153385I lost to flowery ~6 times (not in one go). Orange soul is clunky as fuck, and I also wasn't minmaxing armorsPink was annoying as fuck, maybe 10 tries. granted i was also playing on the tv which turbo fucked my vision
>>742154175>first and onlyCHARA EXISTS tho. But yeah Aqua and Chara are my favorite wives.
The Dragon has her castle, her treasure hoard, and now all she needs is the Princess. Then a Knight will come to rescue the Princess from the Dragon.
Mew Mew wasn't bad if you've played a ton of Bomberman
>>742153895but i need to do it to deliver packages>>742154078oh no, it's a different kind of heaven, not [Heaven]. a furious sloppy handjob from the ghost from behind would make you faint and see colors but that's only if she likes you
>>742153893if there's one thing Steven Universe did right, it was designing blue women.
>Do absolutely nothing >Let NormalNPC steal his bag What's the next step in his master plan?
>>742153934nigger
>>742153389It's bizarre to me that every chapter has a pattern here, Symbol > blank square > Symbol for proceding chapterexcept chapter 3 and 5
I'd been hearing how there's content for aborting the Weird Route but most of it was aborting it in Chapter 4 or 5. I just had a quick check for funsies on my Chapter 2 abort savefile (ThornRing acquired but unequipped, stopped right after) and it seems the game does still remember because Noelle also pulled the smug dialogue when going to ride the wheel with her at first. Which is pretty neat because so far the game seemed to have all but completely glossed over me going that far in Ch. 2. I feel a bit more vindicated in that savefile now, even if I still want to make a "Nothing changed." file one of these days.I assume this isn't really news but I hadn't managed to get confirmation for it so just happy also incredibly sleepy so I post shit no one cares about
>>742154301>the next chapter boss is susie
>>742154198speaking of headcanon VA's, I honestly wonder how many people imagine Kris sounding like Yuri Lowenthal
>>742152687Oh, I thought you were saying he was to scared to go for a human loli so he had to go for a "human" loli
>>742153016I want to give her lots of kissing and make her giggle I don’t want to rape her!
>>742153934Gay
>>742153858screencap this post, they'll open a fountain in the hospital to try and heal Rudy. And that's when the Rudy Knight reveal happens.
>>742153645This is some great cope. People are annoyed with Susie because her romance with Noelle is badly written. Things COULD collapse next chapter, but chances are slim. What's likely going to happen is Noelle just rejects going to the Dark World to spend time with her dad and we get the switcheroo where Berdly joins in her place.
>>742153889All lesbian romances suck because they're mostly written by men with AGP who don't give the slightest fucks about chemistry. The stories written by real lesbians aren't any better because they're just fantasies of getting revenge on men by stealing Stacy away.
>friend does nothing>winsHow does he keep doing it?
>>742154329being a normal fucking enemy in shelter.
>>742154329Toby did yet another NTR damn
>>742154297Chara is a cute male because that would fluster Asriel more.
>>742153645>I don't get why everyone is so angry at Suziei don't hate the character but since chapter 2 she's been written as a mentally retarded plastic bag flying through the windsuzie feels like what homer in the simpsons became in later seasons, a shadow of the former development now used as more of a prop to push the plot forward.
>>742153934And she was a good friend
>>742154376I'd personally say JYB
>>742154176get cancer
>>742154321Yeah, Lapis also has a cute design, just kind of a cunt. Sapphire too but shame she's barely present
>>742153934Ingrate
It’s kinda of weird that Onion never saved Kris or Noelle
>>742154367Its news to me, thanks anonHave a good night
why did i had to get cucked bros.......
what character has the biggest ass?
>>742153978Given how many characters reference undertale, does this mean that the final part of the weird route just leads to a recreation of it?What if everyone died and Undertale was the desperate attempt to revive the town?
>>742152853i did it all for (you)
>>742154397Image Bitch got cucked by parrot All he does is watch
>>742152853Don't forget
>>742151013>66 votes for thinking that suselle is just a bait and switch.Why do you hurt yourself like this?It's like I'm watching people flagellate themselves.
>>742154329NormalNPC carries out the hits in the light worldFRIEND carries out the hits in the dark world
>>742154176>Pay for product>Get told fuck you because online randos said some dumb shit???
>>742154454Onion is already dead and cooked up at that point
>>742152992Jevil's dialogue is extremely old, I really doubt Toby had anything that specific in mind almost 15 years ago (or even 10)It's probably just an example of echoing an older notable line to give it more significance, which is a common writing technique that Toby is very familiar with. To put it another way, it's an extension of the motif of "freedom." Having Noelle use that specific phrase creates parallels between her and Jevil, in the same way Seam saying "very, very interesting" connects them to Gaster.Looking at another example from this Chapter, Aqua heavily quotes Jevil before and during her fight. This is appropriate because the first part of Chapter 5 draws very heavily from Chapter 1 in general, but very strong parallels are also drawn between Aqua and Kris, suggesting that Aqua might represent how Kris acted when they were younger. Through these connections, and with the context from Chapter 3 that many of the earlier Darkners were invented by Kris playing make-believe, we can speculate that Jevil might have more significance to Kris than we thought, and that might inform further speculation about Jevil's role in the story.
>Gerson's book only had 5 chaptersThis shit scares me.
>>742154471onion san (rest in pieces of 'yaki)
HOLY FUCK GASTER AND FRIEND JUST FLEW ACROSS MY HOUSE
Final schizo-boss tally? Use your most recent playthrough if you'd like.>Jevil - 3 tries>Spamton - First try>ERAM - 5~ tries>The Knight - 20 tries is a very generous lowball estimate>Gerson - 4 tries>Mew Mew - 5 tries
>>742154535It has 6 chapters. He just never tells you what was on chapter 6.
>>742153645>you just really hate SuzelleDude, nobody hated Susie until this chapter. She was one of the most beloved characters. The hate here is 100% on her characters doing.
>>742154176That's why I said treating audience frustration as the goal rather than the byproduct to be ignored is the problem.I love the ending of the Sopranos, and David Chase wasn't thinking: >"Grrr, how can I frustrate the audience as much as possible!?"He just did what he thought was the show's most fitting ending. You know who DID think that? Andrew Hussie. If you treat frustration as the goal rather than a byproduct of what you're doing, you're still shaping your art to based on whatever the audience demands it to be, it's why everyone but retards dislike fanservice and pandering. But doing the inverse, just taking the audience's opinions and doing the OPPOSITE to spite them is still playing by the same rules of pandering and fanservice.
>>742154329being a lazy fat fuck
>>742152585too busy off screen being piped by papyrus
>>742154494if it ends up being true i'd be disappointed but not gonna kill myself over itsome of the anons here though....
>>742154494People are voting for what they WANT anon its pretty simple
>>742154550I once saw Gaster drinking milk directly from my fridge and he disappeared as soon as he noticed me
>>742152853you are male
>>742153385seths attack is pretty ass sometimes and the first couple jarona's trick you into thinking you should fully charge instead of solely relying on short chargest. beat it pre nerf
>>742154329I hope this guy isn't even a character. It's been nothing but FRIEND FRIEND FRIEND for a year. I hope we continue to learn next to nothing about this retarded cat while the entire rest of the plot wraps up neatly
>>742154176>deserveWho deserves what and why, you slimy worm?
>this is a coldblooded killer
>>742154571Oh damn you're right
>>742154527> thinking Toby will commit to killing someoneHe didn't even commit to killing the bird in the being an evil hetero murder man route meant to be DR's psychological horror Fucking never commits to anything but the NTR
>>742154618better yet type "ywnbaw"
>>742154329Feels good not keeping up with all the outside material and not treating this thing as anything more than spooky imagery that shows up once in a blue moon
>>742154636yes, that is the first truly evil Toby Fox character
>>742153269It's probably the only chapter where I cared about most of the darkners
Imagine telling yourself from four years ago that the fuck that blocks the books in the library would kill and eat Onion-san
>>742153459ch6 should take place on monday, yeah i'm really interested if that's when everyone is going to notice shit's kinda fucked on the (aborted) weird route and somewhat on the normal route, or if noelle was actually correct in that nobody gives a shit because they're all following a pre determined set of lines and actions
>>742152086>>742152197>kris eats shit and dies somehow while we're outside of him>his body turns into the vessel we made
>Cucks Asgore>Cucks Kris>Cucks Asriel>Cucks Burgerpants>Cucks Catti>Cucks Chuggaconroy>Cucks Austin Jorgensen>Cucks Andrew Hussie>Cucks Gamefaqs>Cucks /v/>Cucks (You)Your response?
>>742154408False, Asriel would be way more flustered seeing human cunny for the first time
>>742154627>features prominently in the final battle of the sword route, where the entire weird route is spelled outSorry bro, FRIEND is at minimum going to be related to the final boss of one of the routes. Even if he's just a scout or minion of some sort.But I think we all know FRIEND will be the final boss.
>>742154553Jevil was 8+ for me with a lot of reequipping/optimizationSpamton was 2 I thinkNeo spamton like 5Knight ~13Gerson maybe 15 ( I was trying too hard to use rude buster and not just healing)MEW MEW - 9?
>>742154670To be fair, imagine if he actually wrote that Berdly died in 2B. It'd establish a tone way too dark for what the rest of the story is, especially with how little the B-side has been progressing over the years.
>>742154176spiting your fans is equally as bad as pandering to them because instead of following your vision you taint it with how others want or don't want to see it
>>742154314You mean bombergirl?
>>742154089Mew Mew legitimately felt like this the whole time.
>>742153934BITCH
>>742154760Friend stock was never dooing worse than thisHe let fucking normalNPC to steal his thunder
>>742154471Catti's mom or dad
Snow GraveWrong Save
>>742154748ghhhhhRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHhggggggggghaaFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>742154553WR replay:FightJevil: idk a good number of tries it was a long time agoWR neo: it was bad almost like 10 triesKnight w/mantle: 3rd try (died last hit last attack 2nd try)Gerson: 4 fails (since it's WR i'm trying to never use susie's heal as a challenge cause it has a flag), then reset and first try w/ kindergarten stratsMew: clutch first try after learning the fight on normal route (mew is significantly harder on WR because you cannot obtain cat defense)
>>742154818n-no...
>>742153269if I wasn't powering through an inconvenient thirst-driven headache I might've teared up. It did make me sad that this is the only chapter the flower niggas get to be in, it would've been a riot seeing Flowery get under Tenna's skin and Lancer being a menace with Aqua
>>742153354Yes, thanks for reminding me of that.I had that pattern in mind before the chapter 3+4 days and seems like very few notice it. I did say that chapter 5 was gonna have an angry boss so something did end up paying off nicely after all! And now that it's confirmed that the shadow crystals contain the power of lost dreams it seems more likely than ever that it's supposed to be the intended pattern, the pattern that holds these bosses together is not schizophrenia but grief about their dreams.So here's the refreshed version:We've got>Jevil represents Denial>Spamton represents Bargaining>Gerson represents Acceptance>Mew Mew represents AngerNow I'm unsure if the Knight is supposed to fit the pattern at all because Black Knife doesn't have the freedom motif, so there's two ways this could go:>Either Ramb was meant to be Depression>or Seam is Depression and we will fight him in chapter 6
>>742154627for real, The part that should make you realize it's just an Easter egg is that Ralsei uses it in his explanation at the beginning of chapter 3. If he were a truly important character, he would have simply made brief appearances as a stalker and that's it. I think Toby immediately defused the toxic theories that would have plagued us for years by featuring him in Ralsei's explanation as a Darkner example.
>>742154739Rape his cute little bussy
>>742154903seam is so hot I need him so bad
>>742153459>Noelle's dad is fucking dead>Snowy and Monster Teen may have gotten merc'd and will be absent>Berdly should SUPPOSEDLY still be in a coma in an aborted route, or else have his arm in a cast>Susie may increase her retardation exponentially>Alphys will still be unable to contact Undyne, and may even have tried to contact Asgore but failedIt's gonna be one hell of an awkward schoolday
>>742154670what about ramb?
>>742154797marisa can spit in my mouth
>>742154710I joked about it in the chapter 3&4 era but I didn't think Toby would commit to it so gruesomely
Can you faggots help me piece together what the heck Toby's fever dream was? I know Homestuck was in Act 5, Act 2 around this time, so it must have something to do with it.
>>742154917People will look at this image and be STAGGERED at how gay deltarune is
>>742154494Even if it isn't I'm just gonna kill it on Weird Route so it doesn't matter
>>742154553Didn't keep track but estimating>Jevil - 4 tries >Spamton neo - first try>Solo spamton - 4ish tries>Eram - probably 8 lol>The knight - probably like 10>Gerson - first try>Mew mew - 4 tries
>>742154698toriel didn't stop existing
>>742154739If you can't fight it, then all you can do is learn to enjoy it.
>>742152673homestuck did the opposite where it told you everything upfront and then pulled the rug under you afterwards>bro did you hear about the EVENT>oh yeah the EVENT where NIGGER kills everyoneand then like 2 months later when the EVENT flash animation drops you find out FAGGOT was controlling NIGGER the whole time and it blows your mind
>>742154123>He might be a bit too enthusiastic, but damnit he's the best officer we've got!
>>742154384The major role the December family drama has in the story in conjunction with the otherworldliness of the whole premise to a degree, but especially the Weird Route, feels like it's going to be a tough thing to make satisfying in the end. Stuff like what we just got for the Weird Route in 5 feels so haunting and drowned in mystery that if it all amounts to Dess went to a Dark World in the Bunker and now Noelle's going to end up in that Dark World, or something related to Rudy like you say, I feel like it's going to take this thing that feels so wide and unknowable in scope and diminish it by making it all about this family drama.It's not that you can't combine that kind of setting or theme with more personal stories about individuals either, it's just a tough balance to land. I have a hard time imagining all the deep-rooted mystery ultimately just being a path to healing the traumas of the Holiday/Dreemurr families and it being a satisfying conclusion, but sometimes it feels like that's where the story is going to go.
So... no more eggs huh?But the forgotten man told you to not look for him anymore.What if, in Chapter 6, there is a FAKE egg room, and this will be the secret boss of CH6 since there are no more shadow crystals. Maybe FRIEND?
>>742154553I don't remember for the others but i have a 4-0 win rate against neutral Spamton. He may be a little too easy if i'm being honest
>>742154965Do we even have exact date for his fever dream?
>>742153385I got used to mew mew but her small bombs causing instant damage if you get touched by them pre-explosion is kinda bullshit honestly
>>742154553I don't remember the precise numbers but in terms of longest to beat:Pre Nerf Knight>Mew Mew>ERAM>Post Nerf Knight>Jevil>Spamton>Gerson
>>7421537942027 most likely.
>>742154917Mew Mew is here—no time to wasteSurpassing hell itself, the wish is a "Cutie Revolution"The world plunged into darkness; a rhythm echoing in the mindShe is saving the day! Mew Mew, come to the rescue!Mew Mew is here—who is ready to play?Just charge ahead with all your might—it's a "Cutie Revolution"
>>742154381>lovey dovey stuffpeople want to bash your head in to a wall. you arent allowed to exist. do you have anything to say about that?
>>742154783 Undertale had you do a genocide as a 7 year old
>>742154471proportionally or by body size because if we're being proportional kris is pretty up thereif not then probably mrs cattenheimer or toriel
>>742154176>ruin your lifes magnum opus that has given you millions of dollars connections with legends of the game industry and a wife to own some retard who called you a chud for including a rape metaphortoby could never be so based
>>742152358After being literally force fed plot during the entire chapter 4, chapter 5 might look like an irrelevant filler. But if you just look around it's obvious a lot of things are happening in the background.>many NPCs got missing>lake is endgame or gaster/depths related>Onion san is likely killed after investigating it>Gaster followers walking around talking about Undertale, esp fun value>Sans got tied to Undertale>Susie is going completely delusional>Noelle's true goals and yandere side revealed>Kris will get ditched>Ralsei droped the nice guy act>weird route completely divergedThe followers really make me think we might see the G-man sooner than later. Or at least, the town as we know it won't last very long.
Does NormalNPC still show up selling fried onion if you never interact with Onion-san?
>>742155065July 2011
>>742154965if only someone saved it.
>>742155056Next room will be kris putting all his eggs in one basket
>>742153934Purple
>>742155105Damn brat needs rape correction
>>742155065April 2012
I can’t believe how lame the final egg room ended up being
Don't forget about Gerson telling us about going between the lines. The prophecy may come true no matter what, but only in a matter of speaking. Between the lines might be something more literal too ("it's darker there")
>>742154797This.And Based.
>>742154471why are you even asking
>>742154372>Toby's a big Live-A-Live fan>we get out Oersted vs StreiboughI dunno which is which here though.Will Kris be the jealous cuck who loses but still ruins everything? Or the one who wins and loses everything?
>>742155170>>742155117AAA who to believe?
>>742154025It's funny because Aqua is actually a canon adult unlike Frisk/Chara
>>742155065March 1992
Ralsei had some good expressions this chapter
>>742155187Its about aborted routeYou go between the routes
>>742152728>(We) pull the "come out of nowhere to block an attack" move for kris using green soul mode
>>742154891(Me) I also had minimum possible stats for neo because I skipped half of WR with door overflow and spared every enemy I could
>>742154381>>742155092I want to do both. Have her go into a wild freedom frenzy and then post sex snuggling and head patting
>>742154175Frisk/Chara existed FIRST. Respect your elders.
>>742154471The titan obviously
>>742155246>that's so goldwhat did he mean by this?
>>742154984are you me? i first tried those same bosses too. i also got close with the knight. dunno why but usually when i come across difficult sections in games i get close to clearing them the first time around, and then every subsequent attempt is just a disaster
>>742155097Missing the pointThat's like complaining Deltarune doesn't have a genocide route that works just like in UT
>>742154471Giga Queen
>>742154942Lol
>>742155246this one isn't actually in the game, is it?
>>742155115yea I never did on my normal save, one of the things I fucked up (along with starwalker...)
>>742155313Reminds him of Flowery
>>742155246That anon seething at this sprite was so funny
>>742155269>Its about aborted route>You go between the routesYeah I think it's gotta be this. The TwistedSword and all that.
>>742155105
I've been listening to the vocal cover of Flower Man an anon posted the other day so much lately that I keep forgetting that it's not official
>>742155164>>742155105Kris should become my wife.
>>742155246Too self-aware. It's begging to be a reaction pic, when that immersion is broken and you notice the artist's intentions, that's when the magic is gone.
>>742154553>jevilbeen a long as time since i've played ch1 but probably 10ish>spamtonfirst>erami want to say 5 or 6, i was being retarded and rushing him the first few times>knightno idea, a lot>gerson5 or 6, it's harder to remember because you don't actually die>pinkat least 15, shit was pure cbt
>>742154748This. Asriel already knows a peeped but doesn't know what cunny is.
>>742154553i definitely died to everyone excluding Mew Mew multiple times but I don't remember those numbers. So going off of the Weird Route run (also excluding Mew who was on regular) I did to prep for Chapter 5>Jevil - First try (barely)>Spamton - first try>ERAM - 2nd try>Knight - another close first try>Gerson first try>Mew Mew - 2nd try
>>742154471
>>742154783If you don't turn on the heater he probably dies in WR or close enough
>>742155396Which one?The ones I've listened to are kinda ass.
>>742155396Which one? There are a lot of good ones
>>742152853God please give me a playable Open Heart.
>>742155228>lolibabalameee
>>742155375He was completely correct.>LOOK AT LE FUNNY MAYMAY FACE!!! FEEL FREE TO SCREENCAP IT AND USE IT ON THE INTERNET!!!! So artificial, so tasteless.
>>742155269we are NOT calling it the aborted route
Who do we think is talking in the UNUSED text file thats updated every chapter?
>>742151842timeloops
>>742155294>Red eyes>smug facerapeRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE
>>742155380>Weird have like three different ejection points (Berdly, Noelle room, the lake)That is going to complicate some things
>>742155473Her flower is 20 years old if not more. She's older than Asriel.
>>742152853https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPihURnA0dU
>>742155048>I feel like it's going to take this thing that feels so wide and unknowable in scope and diminish it by making it all about this family drama.that's inevitable considering the collective imagination of the fans has been running wild since the first demo dropped all those years ago, there will be people disappointed with the endingBut I don't think it's a bad outcome for the Knight plot. Deltarune has been character-driven since the beginning and the relationship between the Dremurr family and the Holdiay family has been a significant plot element since chapter 2.sidenote but I hate the Kris+Noelle Knight theory, it feels like a schlocky, forced 'epic/shocking' identity for the knight and doesn't make a lot of sensethe Knight's identity isn't nearly as significant as people think
>>742155115I believe so?I'm pretty certain I never encountered Onion in my playthrough (I've been playing each new chapter blind as it comes out and not replaying them, so I've missed most secrets AFAIK) and the bird guy was there at the festival selling food
>>742152853Penis penis penis penis penis penis
>>742155481Oh yeah, what was this chapter's update? I totally forgot.
https://files.catbox.moe/j42qrk.pngYandeere
>>742155480
>>742155451>>742155447https://files.catbox.moe/e4vm4z.mp3I haven't found a version where the vocals are as good
>>742155479UTDR has always had funny faces so it's (you) the one that changed.
>>742155164noelle tried that and it just broke her
>>742155481It's clearly Dess
>>742155541I do have one thing, though.And that's memories.Memories of my life...Maybe that's all I am at this point.A collection of memory......Then all I can do is... not forget, right?"Don't forget."I just have to keep telling myself that...This is the one for CH5
>>742152853bro what the FUCK is your damage
>>742155481Haha.... well I'm sure you know who. "He" said it
>>742155480Too late Its natural progressionOnly alternative right nowbwould be side c but thats retarded
>>742155558
Based on the schizo tally I can conclude that while Spamton is easily the best schizo, he is the biggest pushover. Probably because his fight is also the demo for Yellow soul mode.
>>742155480NAW>Normal>Aborted>Weird
>can't reach 1000 replies in an hour anymoreIt's over, see ya in 2027
>>742155228>>742155473Lolis are a state of being. If she looks cunny then she is one, even as a baba
What do "sustingus" and "jarona" mean? Also I love flowery.>MY KING
>>742155207
>>742153957>Does he balance every chapter assuming someone out there plays them all standalone with no save data?I'm still subscribing to the idea that by the end of a casual run chapter select will be a proper thing. I can't see him expecting people to replay the entire game like Undertale when that was the length of just chapter (except maybe Weird Route, hell that's even truncated with ch5).
>>742155410This. Too many le random faces used too often this chapter. They should be used sparingly not every other text box
>>742152358>>742155114And also it terms of pacing, this is supposed to just be the last light-hearted adventure before shit hits the fan. Not every chapter needs to be Chapter 4 lore dump with Knight fight at the end. This chapter is supposed to give you a breather and let you fully enjoy the dynamics in your party for the last time, because they are not coming back. This is the last adventure like this.But things are still happening. This is literally a pivot point and the setup for the central drama to unravel.
>>742155545Me on the bottom
>>742155687sustingus is some plant related pun
>>742155480it's what people referred to with the other geno routes in UT, so it's what people are gonna use when referring to the other weird route. Cope.
>>742155702Its gaster talking directly to the player
>>742155545my dick
>>742155687my sharona reference
>>742155480Just like how Noelle killed those eggs
>>742155558not every character had them all the time so now the character differences are becoming shorter
>>742155687jarona is a reference to MY SHARONA, it's an oldhead thing
>>742155687MY FUARKING HERO
>>742155687my sharona
>>742154553>Jevil - 1 or 2 tries. Can't recall.>Spamton - First try>ERAM - 5-10 tries, I tried to brute force him without dodging in the beginning since you could hit rapidly, so it might've been even higher.>The Knight - No clue, a lot. I beat the Knight without the mantle later though.>Gerson - 3 or 4 maybe, first try on my most recent though (you get a unique line of dialogue)>Mew Mew - 2 tries
>>742155749I thought it was related to snoopingas at first
>>742155815Deltarune is one big Lisa episode
Goddamn son. What is it about angst driven stories and dynamics that make Deltarune fan artists go absolutely nasty with it.https://x.com/i/status/2071317927719252173
>>742155687I though he said >Joroku
Darkner. Darkner darkner darkner darkner darkner darkner darkner happy fun lalalala human smuggling dark world deaths forced Gaster euthanasia chopping up Onion's limbs la la lalala lalalalala
>>742155557Not bad, not bad at all.It's better than most because the guy can actually sing.
>>742155815need a kris/susie edit of this
>>742155830>(you get a unique line of dialogue)What does it say?
>>742154571>>742154535it means the story gets hard locked at chapter 6the only way to progress to 7 is to break the story (and I don't mean the weird route only)
>>742152853i love u
>>742155557Would their child be equivalent to a Nephelim in that world?
>>742155480okay how bout Miscarriage route? Stillborn route?Infanticide route, perhaps?
>>742155770Skeleton with cracked skull talking to you in a dream feels more like a nightmare than a dream
I can't tell if ralsei's shitty dialogue sprites early in chapter 5 were there deliberately for humor or by mistake. Probably the former but the dialogue lines weren't funny so I'm not 100% sure.
>>742153934HATE. LET ME TELL YOU-
>>742155687Honestly he might be my #2 favorite after Spamton.
>>742155332I'm not saying "do genocide route" I'm saying they chicken out of the kind of horror the weird route is supposedly going for. And you can't fuckin deny that when he backed off the rape implications in ch 4 and this is before complaining about how it's just creepy pasta cutscenes after ch 2 which is lame as shit to do when the idea is the player making actions and committing to them. Where's the gameplay? Compare ch 2 weird to ch 4 and 5 weird and it's night and day.
>>742152853PROCEED
>>742155732The keyword here is intention, when Berdly makes the funny face, or when Papyrus makes a face like this, it's great because it follows the overall "soul" they have established.
>>742155687>hear his voiceclips in my head>want to replay his chapterit cant be that easy
>>742155893For me it's that and the light bit crush over his voice making it fit more
>>742155967I Have Mouth And Ice Cream
>>742155893I think this version is actually AIAnon in another thread said so
>>742155526I agree to a point, and I'm not one to get deep in the lore and theorycrafting myself, but the foundation of people having all these out there theories is in the game itself at the end of the day. The gaps between chapters gives people time to ruminate on them and let them get really out of control, but the game itself still presents a situation that feels a lot bigger than just the situation between these families. I don't think it's impossible to use the family drama as just a lens into this bigger picture rather than letting all the Gaster and fourth wall stuff take the lead, but I think it will be tough for Toby to execute in a satisfying way. At the very least, I hope the drama of the Holidays doesn't feel like it gets in the way of the other emotional cores of the story with the main squad, I'm less concerned about there being a smaller, human focus in the story and more concerned with it being placed on the Holidays instead of Kris, Susie and Ralsei, but we'll see.
>>742155687>What a pitiful creature!
>>742155976#3 for me after Spamton and Gerson
>>742155948His smug expression is disgusting and I don't doubt Toby is spiteful enough to keep using it
>>742155687I vaguely remember the first time he said "sustingus", it was in place of "suspicious". Jarona is likely based on a mishearing of Sharona
>>742156000Flowery is single handedly altering my perception of the chapter to be positive. I don't know how he does it
>>742156023nah this isn't the AI one, some guy on youtube made this one. the AI one has different instrumentals and sounds noticeably weird with how the singing is, this one is human
>>742156000I'M SORRY ONCE AGAIN I KEPT A LADY IN WAITING
>>742155920It's more than one line, I forgot. Here's the videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgZd5nVP7ho
>>742155526I still think Rudy Knight would be the most narratively hard hitting. How exactly that'd work I don't know, but him striking down the idealized version of himself and going against everyone for some purpose would be major. Especially if it gets revealed when Noelle's around
>>742156102Ok thanks for clearing that up
>>742154471spamton
>>742156000MYSTERIOUS WIND
>>742156102>some guy on youtube made this oneYou got a link to the video?
>>742155948too overused. I remember in ch1 there was some sprite that was only used once in extremely awkward moment and that's why it had weigh to it. There's so many memefaces now even though I like my mystery nigga Ralsei
>>742156156I'm Falliiiiiiing..!
>>742156153I don't think so
>>742156000>No. No. No. (Yes)
>>742152231Also clearly a reference to Seth from Illusion of Gaia, who is a guy
>>742156000he legitimately lifts the chapter up by a grade or two by himself, aqua is cute but she doesn't have the same effect as MY HUMAN
>>742156153
>>742155564*fixed herOne push and she immediately realized Kris is the one she wants. What really broke her was Kris ghosting her suddenly all those years ago, all those pent up emotions burst out the second he gives her attention and she's unable to control them.
>>742154553I just started replaying the whole game but Jevil was actually harder than I thought. I thought I'd beat his ass first try but no it actually took 2 tries.Mew Mew also took 2 tries.I remember The Knight being by far the hardest boss in the game, and ERAM also being pretty hard, but I'll see when I get to my Chapter 3 replay
>>742155564i'm still surprised the rose wasn't changed due to toby pussying out or censorship, and was because kris is actually the raped, not noelle
How do I become Flowery irl?
Crashing the holiday administration
>>742156162https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO89LmqVcpAthis should be the guy who sang it, though the posted one is specifically a remix of it (he links his raw vocals in the comments so was made off of that it seems)
I haven't even be getting the egg rooms yet this slowed down snippet of the piano rendition of scarlet forest has been in my head rent free ever since I heard it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykz_TtuO1CkThat first few seconds just sounds too good
>>742155976same here
>>742156268Why did floradinn appear on the Knight's side again?
>>742154553>Jevil - 5~ tries>Spamton - First try>Eram - 7~ tries>Knight - 10~ tries>Gerson - 4~ tries, I was a retard who did it by defending only>Mew Mew - First try, extremely close call. No items left and everyone almost dead.
Do you think we'll get another Spamton Sweepstakes-style ARG with a live-action dude in bad makeup?
>>742155048agreed 100%Once noelle and chris proclaimed their desires of freedom and marched into the lake I immediately felt that the dess subplot was no longer relevant. If, in their pursuit of freedom, they come across items/evidence/etc. pertaining to dess then great but the focus, even when encountering said items/evidence/etc., should remain on how that can assist in kris/noelle's pursuit of freedom.
>>742155687I genuinely wanted to hate him SO bad. But the little fag is endearing in a way I can't explain, maybe it's the bravado, the stupid voice lines, or just the dumb ass humor that he uses. Some whack ass magic you used here Toby Fox, you gay ass nigga.
>>742156303become a mugen character
>>742156303Do what he did, fake it till you make it.
>>742156000>Hope and Dreams CHAD>Doesn't decide to be a faggot when Asgore says to stop. He respects his homie and stands down, allowing the fountain to be closed because he just wants to make the man happy for how much he did for them.>Kino theme>Made Ralsei seethe and forced him to develop as a character>Made the Knight sweat while exhausted and not using his most powerful formHe was great
>>742156303just have confidence and be urself, broif you're worried about looking cringe, then you're not living life right
>>742156338to force an encounter then spare it to trap the knight into a fight
>>742156268Why did she not simply smite Rudy with her big fucking tail?
>>742156360>No items left and everyone almost dead.same I'm completely out of revivemints
What if deltarune is just a recycled plot from frozen and tubby is a disney fag.Elsa = annahis sis = kris or desshanns = susie etc
Out of all the secret bosses, Jevil will always be my favorite for the sole reason that he doesn't feel like he's trying too hard to be memorable or interesting. Gerson is cool too, but his fake death just to bring him back was lame.
>>742156338Flowery using the game mechanics to force the Knight into a battle so it can't use its cutscene plot armor
post yfw Papyrus shows up
>>742156338MY HERO used him to start a battle so that the knight is stuck inside it and then spared it right away
>>742156000>They're eating my flesh!
>>742154553Completely guess work, but as far as I remember:>>Jevil - 30 tries>>Spamton - 5 tries>>ERAM - 5 tries>>The Knight - 20-30 tries>>Gerson - 2 tries>>Mew Mew - 10 triesYes, it took me forever to beat Jevil. I think even more so than knight because his fight just keeps going and going.
>>742156303become a jobber
>>742156254Must be frustrating as fuck for Kris if it turns out he is intentionally distancing himself for her protection from the prophecy>Childhood best friend>Completely in sync with her>Hottest and richest girl in town>Can't make a move precisely because he loves her so much
>>742156000I never thought human Flowey would be COOL
>>742156316The voice sounds right but the intonations sound way different. Compare the first times he says "Flower Man" and it sounds completely different.Either it's someone else or anon did a fantastic job at fixing it
>>742155178I wouldn't have minded it if it was played straight but the annoying dog shit right before was retarded At least the bit about the egg being evidence for something is extremely interesting given the duplication in asgore's fridge
>>742156397I love that he actually did just want to make Asgore happy (and keep his world alive). A cool dude.
>>742156360>>Mew Mew - First try, extremely close call. No items left and everyone almost dead.That's how I was at my first clear. But 2 clears later I managed to beat her using only two green teas.You just gotta memorize patterns and be lucky with bombs.
POTENTIAL MAN, POTENTIAL MANWITH HIS SMILE, EDGING FANS KEEPS APPEARING POTENTIAL MAN
>>742156303Fake it so hard that it becomes less fake
>cant have berdly>cant have ralsei>cant have mad mew mewSomeone should beat Susie with hammers.
>>742156428That's not the Floraddin
>>742156448Jevil must've did it too well because I barely remember him
>>742156448it's not Spamtons fault he got too popular. I don't care for Jevil but his figh still kicks my ass
>>742156338>When you start a battle all enemies in the vicinity are brought into it>Flowery does this with Floraddin to force the Knight into a battle
>>742154045>I hope it causes major seethe everywhere but herePeople fucking HATE Suselle anon. The moment krusiefags had the chance they went all in on drawing cuck I’m pretty this fanbase would be more pissed at suselle surviving
>>742155831we need a /v/ approved mod that replaces all the voice clips with dumb shit like this
>>742156470
>>742152853Ni**er
>>742156480>that pose of the knightIt got so lucky that he didn't used omega.
>>742152372Once an oldfag, always an oldfag
>flowery is meta awareis this why he doesnt kill the party and simply tosses them back? he knows that you'll just respawn if properly killed.so he's buying his dream just a little more time.
>>742156656a /v/ approved mod would take too long on account of all the romanceable characters that would need to be added
>>742155048>tfw dess ends up being irrelevant in the grand scheme of thingswould be kinda sad desu. guessing shes the focus of whatever asgore is vagueposting about.
>>742156576>cant have ralseiIronic considering how hard she kept shipping those two in the previous chapters.
>>742156448Jevil's fine but you can't beat Spamton when it comes to the schizo bosses. He continues to be relevant even now.
desu the theory about Ralsei being Asriel and Dess's stillborn/miscarried fetus makes sense to me and YES it would be a complete tonal mismatch BUT NormalNPC exists and it would also kinda be a Mother reference so that lends some probability to it imo
>>742156583He's the only one that leaves the story and the game commits to it instead of bringing him back for cheap fanservice like spamton and gerson, which I respect. Chapter 1 really was the peak of this game.
>>742156509Pussy. True lovers drag each other to hell
>Flowery is so co-ACK
Nyon!
>>742156809>Ralsei being Asriel and Dess's stillborn/miscarried fetusabortion route real?
>>742156303GET A CHANCE
Over time I understand what Toby was going for with Susie this chapter and I'm really warming up to the chapter as a whole to the point where its close to being my favorite
>>742156821>Chapter 1 really was the peak of this game.no one listens to me when I say this
>>742156000THE BOYS
>>742156893It's more likely than you think.
>>742155048Then, riddle me this batman, when does it expand from being interfamily drama and broken bonds to something that goes well beyond just the loss of loved ones, such as an end of the world scenario, a.k.a The Roaring, or whatever Big G has planned in the very near future?
>>742156783Spamton is on a completely different level of kino from all other characters. It's not a fair comparison
It's been 5 days. Are you still dooming or do you have HOPE
>>742156852there's different dialogue if you skip the strike cutscene
>>742156303You need at least two diners for starters.
This is SAThere's an adult in this body who doesn't consent to being forced to kiss a child
>>742156852>ruin your scene
>>742156859I wish I could bring myself to care about any of the recruits in this chapter but I can't The last time I cared about the generic recruits as characters were the Pippins, love those bastards
>>742156809>>742156893Actually wait a second Toby Fox is woke and that would kinda be an anti-abortion plotlineMaybe not so likely
>>742152853Basically pic related but in less words.
>>742156912we had like 1 actual deltarune chapterand then they kept pussying out after thateven poor gerson wasnt allowed to pass onmade to mentor susie forever after gerson's ashes got looted from the church and taken to castle townpoor guy
>>742152786>kris asks noelle out>noelle says: oh thats nice but you see I'm a lesbian>kris tells her its okay since she's secretly a woman and lifts her shirt to prove it
>>742157049I CANT DANCE
>>742157058I liked floradins, the rest feel extremely out of place
>>742157063But also it would be saying that a fetus is an object..... so maybe it is woke...........
what went wrong in their upbringing where napstablook ended up the only normal one?
what does "10 feet 20" mean anyway
>>742157064Imagine if you could send Kris image files
>>742157049Add more characters and the scene is fixed. Don't forget to make the text glow blue.
>>742156852>Is still up while Kris isn'tYeah hew won.
>>742154553Vaguely recalled from my first playthrough:Jevil: 2 triesSpamton: 2 triesSpamton WR: about fifteen minutesERAM: 2 triesKnight: about twenty minutesGerson: about an hourPink: about an hour and a half
>>742157067Toby should've gotten surgery or a prosthetic and tried to pull through making the game in one goThe game has no sincerity outside the weird route
>>742154471depending on the model and the price youre willing to pay
>>742156968I don't give much of a shit about the main route anymore desu.I'm here for FREEDOM.
>>742157090Kek
>>742157143He's really tall.
>>742156968I'm just wondering how much he'll be able to fit into two chapters and if he can write a satisfying conclusion. We're nearing the end and there's so much we don't know, and now he's introduced all this relationship drama.
wait, didn't we put the Chapter 1 egg into asgore's fridge?So we re-picked up the chapter 1 Egg?
>>742157134Blooky is perfectly content being a ghost. While his form has its limitations, he just accepts them and moves on instead of looking for the perfect body.
>>742157143He's a tall adonis of a man
>>742156646Yeah but Suselle is still happening buddy.
>>742157025Mad Dummy is a some weeaboo NEET she probably likes it
>>742156852i won't insult a man for wanting to save his friends
>>742156821>best setting>best atmosphere>best visuals>best gameplay (UT like, no shitty gimmicks to kill the flow)>best jokes>best ost>best schizo boss>no gay shitCh1 is peak Deltarune
>>74215714310 feet tall20 inch gock
>>742150210Humans
>>742157134i don't know if i'd call blook normal either, anonthe only actually normal one is the mystery 4th ghost who's possessing the tutorial dummy in UT
>>742157220Mew Mew buttjob...
>>74215714311 foot 8
I hate the Amalgamate Knight theory because it removes the kino dynamic Dess Knight could have with Noelle and Kris
>>742156845Chara literally quotes about it, too. Kris needs to stop being a bitch.
>>742156968I fear I've already gotten to acceptance. I'll still follow the news and keep up with the game. But my hopes for it are buried.Chapter 5 was just so bad.
>>742157058I like the stupid scarecrow
>>742156968Dooming, I guess. Even if the whole prophecy cope ends up being real, Deltarune probably won't give me that same starry-eyed feeling it once did.
>>742150210Monsters aren't animals.
>>742156995>if you skip the strike cutsceneHuh? What do you mean?
>>742157143It's a fake statistic
what happens if you turn off Ralseis?
>>742156968Happy my enemies hated 5 (which was kino)
>>742157491He can't talk until Flowery turns it back on
>>742157491*
>>742157431Susie is the ultimate cockblocker. We should've partnered with Berdly in the beginning. A true gamer and friend.
>>742156968I have cope
>>742156743>Here, let me start over>Maybe, just maybe, this time, you’ll LISTEN!
>>742157143Asgore is almost 4 meters tall
>>742157491Ralsei becomes unable to speak. All his text boxes are just an asterisk with distressed face sprites.Also the following puzzle, he gets more and more agitated every time you brick the puzzle. Dunno if he snaps because I solved it before too many tries.
>>742157491he can't speak and basically kills himself if you keep failing the puzzle
>>742157491he shuts up
>>742157143Flowery doesn't understand how height measurements work, same as how he doesn't really understand the rules of the dark world, but pretends to anyway.Ralsei directly calls him out for this.
>>742157049reminder this heal did absolutely fucking nothing to help Flowery vs the knight
Where is the next thread?
>>742156968Though the cope theories people have been posting are interesting, my expectations for future chapters aren't high. I'll check out the new chapters when they come out, but I probably won't be excited like I was for this one.
>>742157351I prefer it since Dess is just a character that's constantly hyped up and will probably not match up to any expectations. RIght now, Dess is just a plot device. Meanwhile, we've seen all the other characters interact with Kris and Noelle so it would be extra poignant if we then get to see the world through the Knight as them.
>>742156968I hope for this wild ride to crash and burn gloriously at the end
>>742153385Orange soul wasn't responsive enough for me, there was a noticeable delay between me "charging" and the soul actually starting to "charge"
>>742157482I don't know how to explain it, the qte you do every time you actually fight enemies, it shows up as a finisher in Flowery's fight and most people, including me, got baited by it but you can spare him.
>>742157578>basically kills himself if you keep failing the puzzleWait what. For real?
Come follow me into the darkWith your heart as the arkWhich shall shine you the wayBecause I'm with you in the darkWith your heart as my markWhich shall guide you the way, through the wavesCome follow me into the darkWith your heart as the arkWhich shall shine you the wayBecause I'm with you in the darkWith your heart as my markWhich shall guide you the way, through the waves>Which shall guide you the way, through the waves
>>742157539>>742157568>>742157578>>742157586>>742157546oh
>>742156968My hope was shattered the moment I booted up the game, absolute dogshit. I've been having a blast shitposting in these threads tho, so I guess I got something out of it. I might stay to see how bad it gets but i have zero hope for any sort of satisfying conclusion
>>742157615i eated it
>>742157694as in, he does the splat again because of how annoyed he gets at you.
>>742157716>it was a noelle song>not a dess one
It’s kinda strange how little Ch 5 progressed in the story.
>>742157568He flattens after enough failures.>t. retard who fucked up the puzzle like 10 times before solving it
>>742157716>mew mew song>"world slaughter, this time underwater"
>>742157716How the fuck did she knew what her little sister would do long after her disappearance
>>742156968im coping that susie has just gone crazy from the prophecy
>>742152423When you flirt with noelle sega Saturn dating ui does not appear. Thats how you know she ain't the one fellas.
>>742156968HOPEfilled
>>742157823Time loop?
>>742153869I'm listening to Jefre Cantu-Ledesma now, thank you for the recommendation.
>>742157823What abouther little sister followed her song
>>742156968HOPING for the only route that matters.
BIGGER
>>742157562see but he knows the prophecy, he knows that the fountains HAVE to be sealed, and he knows that his in particular will eventually crumble because plants still need plant things.
>>742157935Ghost cat milk
>>742157787I think the overall narrative progress was comparable to something like Ch3 without the Knight reveal being brand new to compensate (or a cool creepypasta game), but it feels odd after Ch4. Like the kind of chapter people would speculate about existing in a post-Ch2 era
The secret boss for ch 5 should have been Mike
>>742157935BIGGER!!!
>>742157207Post ch 2 weird route is just fucking cutscenesYou aren't level grinding with Noelle like in ch 2 or breaking those lame ass puzzles dark worlds have, you just give equip a ring and go swimming in the light world while nothing happens in any darkworld from ch 3-5.
>>742157382kek true. Kris needs to man up and accept his fate, no point in trying to delay the inevitable
Reminder that Ralsei is trans and bigots shouldn't play this game
>>742157025If I learned anything from DELTARUNE it's that consent is often secondary
>>742157935[[BIGGER AND BETTER THAN EVER]]
>>742157740Is it really that bad? I only played chapter 1 and was thinking about getting back into it.
>>742157940I think I agree with you; he claims that the heroes have the chance to defy fate, but relative to how that would usually be written, he wants them to just peacefully back down.
ERAM = Aqua
>>742156470>post yfw Papyrus shows up
>>742158081I'm gonna kill him in the weird route so it's okay to me
>>742157025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYt0WbDjJ4E
>>742157049>Completely wrong, this story is in fact a tragedyBlue has as much integrity as Aqua has patience
>>742157990I would be perfectly ok with MewMew if it wasn't for the straight up bad dialogue Susie and Ralsei have before entering her room
>>742158081What if deltarune WASN'T woke and gay?
>>742158104Look up ch2 weird route, do that and continue from there, the normal path is not worth the effort
>>742158081"Blue-and-pink" refers to Kris (blue skin, pink cape). He's being teased for having a crush on Kris.
>>742157164Which way SOVLCHUD>Send Kris porn of himself>Send Kris porn of herself
>>742158235They already made that game.
>>742158104Not him, but I found it mediocre. It's not especially good, but I had enough fun to not regret my time with it. I feel the same way about Chapter 3, but the rest I think are very good.
i hope there's a battle theme that reprises the chapter 1 ending song, lyrics and allthat would be really cool
>>742158104Honestly, just try it out yourself and don't listen to this retard >>742158241
Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven
>>742158001If those asses sit on you will you die?
>>742157787it did just more subtly>festival done>asgore taken>another shelter code>rudy injured>susie falling into escapism>ralsei losing his cool and showing his magic>hints on ralsei maybe being a plant>onion-san>the entirety of weird route>kris possibly falling into depression after recent eventsif you think about it, the only things in chapter 4 which "progressed the story" were showing us more prophecy bits (of which we still didn't see the end), learning toriel is a whore, getting another shelter code via dess, and learning that dead darkners can be revived in dark worlds via gerson. there was character development with susie as well but its not "story progress," if you judge each chapter only by the big reveals you are going to miss all the details
>>742156000Nah fuck Flowery I was glad when he got sliced
>>742158351log off Ralsei
>>742158252Kris is blue and pink because he's also trans. His bed is a trans flag.
>>742153105free dom am i rite
>>742158081>the tadc finale all over againplease no. tony please don't trick us again
>>742158351Raly...
>>742158134Who is Kris
>>742158310It would be extremely painful.
>>742158320>hints on ralsei maybe being a plant>inb4 the old theories about him being a Flowey were right
>Ralsei fire magicSo he represents Eram?
I hope in ch 7 weird route I erase Susie and Ralsei
>>742158351t.
>>742158405That bed honestly looks like toby trying as hard as he possibly can to combine blue pink and white WITHOUT looking like a tranny
>>742152853Kris, I just want to help you. I admit I may have projected myself onto you and that was selfish of me but I only did it cause I thought it was best for you. If I knew it would've turned out like this I would've done some things different, and I know that's not a good excuse. But you haven't been very responsive or cooperative either. Just explain what's going on and I'll help you 100 percent of the way. If you're being manipulated by the knight or some other force out there I'll give it my all to take them down so you don't have to do this anymore.Kris, please trust me.
>>742158501Why is no one talking about Flowrery swooning Susie over a bit. She blushed several times for him.
>>742157903Can I see it?
>>742158241>>742158272>>742158280The games only like $25 so I'll just play both routes and see how it goes. Worse case I get to complain about a mid game. Will keep you all posted.
>>742158320and I actually forgot to mention even bigger story bits like>asgore knows about dark worlds>dark worlds have existed before the events of the story (confirmed, not just speculation anymore)>the knight has been making fountains for yearsso ch 5 did have a lot of story, you get caught up in asgore vagueposting but miss the rest of whats actually being told
Kris go into a dark world without your soul it would be a funny joke
>>742158586No.
>>742152853You're a fucking nigger.
>>742158320The difference is that chapter 4's storytelling was a lot more engaging and it was nowhere near as long. Chapter 4 had a sense of suspense since you wanted to know what's up with the bunker and the Knight, both of which loomed over you the entire chapter. In chapter 5, it's just, "Oh look, the festival. Oh look, a dark world. Oh look, funny stuff. Oh look, remember the Knight?" It's all just distractions.
>>742158515haha okay bigot
>>742158615have fun bro. dont forget the egg
Why did Chara push Noelle into insanity? That’s so messed up. Welp since Noelle is just a tool now Chara might as well use her up
>>742158559She wasn't the only one. For all his shittalking about Flowery, Ralsei sure got blushy-blushy with him in far too many scene.
>>742158645>You're a bigot! I win!You don't belong here.Also newest girl isn't canon.
>>742158643knowing what's in the shelter and who the knight is have loomed over us since ch 3, and that doesn't change in ch 5. and I'd only call 4 more "direct" because its just a bunch of prophecy bits being read off to you directly
>>742152853>say I LOVE TV 100 times for me to break suselle
Unanswered questions of Deltarune Ch. 1-5:>What happened to Dess? >What actually happens in the Roaring?>Who is the Knight? >What is the Knight's plan?>Who or what is Ralsei?>What's the deal with Gaster?>Who created the Dark Worlds and why?>Who are the Gaster followers and why are they killing people?>What is the deal with Sans?>What happened to Papyrus?>Who is the Egg Man?>What are the eggs for?>Why is Hometown getting stranger?>What is Carol's plan?>Why is Noelle special?>What does Kris need the soul for?>Why is Kris in cahoots with the Knight and presumably Carol?>What's the deal with Asriel?>Why is the Knight kidnapping people?>What is the Vessel for?>Why is there "only one ending"?>What is the point of the Weird Route?>What is the Twisted Sword for?>Where is Susie's family?>Who drove Spamton and Jevil insane and why?>What is the game's connection to Undertale?>Who is FRIEND?How many of these are actually getting answered?
>>742158645Nigger
>>742158615You might want to space apart your playthroughs of both routes: apart from chapter 2, they're largely the same besides some major cutscenes.Nonetheless, I hope you enjoy. I actually think the game is good overall (thus far) in spite of its low points
>>742158803>>What happened to Dess?
>>742158803A lot of these can be grouped up because they have the same answer so it's not as many questions as you might think
>>742158741That's Noelle's blog on the official website. She respects Kris's pronouns.
>>742152853>If you didn't hide so much shit from me I'd have probably helped you instead of fucking around with you and Noelle.
>>742158803y'know looking at this nowmaybe Toby CAN pull it off.
>>742158803The only ones I'm not 100% convinced are gonna be answered are the ones most directly tied to Gaster.
>>742158309>hellDo you mean Gaster's lab?
>>742158785I'd say the difference is in execution. Chapter 4 had a sense of urgency that makes you want to keep playing. Chapter 5 doesn't have that, so the subtlety kinda works against what it meaningfully progresses, since it's masked by too much fluff; doesn't help it's also the longest chapter yet