I kind of miss the art direction from Chapter 2. Chapter 5's presentation is so cluttered, there's barely any space for negative space. It's always gotta have bounce light, reflections, shadows everywhere. Really hurts the presentation in my opinion.
Is this the thread?
>>742541149>>742539764we're here
>>742541182>zoomer garbage chainsawcuck threadNo thanks dude. I prefer to use this thread even if it gets deleted by the retarded jannie.
>>742541053>I liked when the game was full of nothing spaces with no texturesNo
Explain.
>>742541816>LGTV+Lol
>>742541429What you don't do in art is as important as what you do.
>>742541053>grognarding for chapter 2so anyway, wanna chat?
>>742541149Not really.
>>742541816P-Pablo's... Pablo's right...
susie is the dragon princess that does not want to be saved.noelle goes mad if things don't change. it cannot be her.
would you, /v/?
>>742527745/V/ WE NEED YOUR ENERGY! COME SING FLOWER MAN!
So the reason they're making asgore more of a weeb is so that they can subvert expectations of when Asgore proves the darkworld right?>asgore proves its real>tries to get back with toriel>she still says no because he was overbearing after th le split>asgore gets togethor with our teacher because she thinks he likes her and they both like anniemay
>>742545031Mew Mew Sex SEX
>>742541816>>>>>2007
>>742541053Nigga that is literally just a line
>>742545031THATS A MAN, BABY!
>>742545352And it does so much with so little. It's so little but it sets the done by contrast. This is good presentation.
>>742545354A sexy, female man.
>>742545385I can't even tell anything about the location
>>>/vg/
>>742541053>>742542863Contrarianism is not a personality
>>742545335old enough to post here btw
>>742545537Neither is being as retard, anon.
>>742545459It's Queen's basement. Going for simplicity was the right choice because Queen's Mansion is very lavish, so the contrast by having her mansion be creepy and rusty like that corner of a house with mold growing. And again the simplicity here does the heavy lifting. The moment you start to introduce elements that don't add anything to the atmosphere it's time to start cutting back. It's like what Terry A Davis once said, only retards appreciate complexity.
>>742541462Alternate world without Kris? Toriel adopts another kid and Susie stays in her apartment
>>742545537>>742545748Oops forgot the pic
>>742546416Neither is good presentation.In fact both are cluttered. Left pic does nothing with too much subjects, thus hurting its composition, and right pic is just flashy, but not moody, I can't sense a thing from it. Here's a much better comparison between good presentation and bad presentation, in my opinion.
>>742546502
>>742546502Detail is not "clutter".
>>742546638The thing is that I never thought chapter 5 actually looked 'good' despite the added detail.
i miss the aesthetic of thing that i was 13 and hormonal when experiencing so it imprinted upon me and any deviation is just wrong because like uhh idkk man the vibes bro
You seriously aren't thinking about dating a prophecy walker are you?
>>742546640Yeah, it's not. But details only go as far as adding to what is there. If "details" occupy too much space while not improving or adding to the mood and tone, it's just not good.
I think this kind of obsession and schizo posting over the characters of this series is worth studyingWhat's the point to discuss this game's unfinished story by piecing together scraps of lore just to make up stuff in your head?
A gift for the peoplehttps://x.com/Lumineko_Arts/status/2073294609430851637
>>742546416can't tell if this is a joke, original la-mulana came out in 2006
>>742547067hi lumineko
>>742545762Don't know who this Terry Davis is but he's right>>742546638Right is not bad, you can tell Toby used his 10 man team and his millions for this, but it's just uh... unnecessary? I'd rather he worked on the writing first, then presentation second.
>>742547083At least 50% of 4chan's current userbase hadn't been born yet so yes that is very retro
>>742547030t. guy that has never read a book or watched a movie or engaged with any form of storytelling ever
>>742546743I'm thinking about dating a starwalker
>>742547030It’s fun. I had more fun cooking up theories with /v/ than the actual chapters.Yeah, we’re always wrong, but I never did it ‘cause I wanted to be right.
>>742547030Trying to figure out a mystery is fun.
>>742547354>Magical Girl (Real) KrisMmm
>>742541816>pablo gonzales
still the most compelling character tbqhthe buildup to the boss battle and the fight itself are sublime
>>742547518I know pretty much was making just more spamtons with their boss ideas but I'd rather have them than the nothing chapters 3 and 5 had (and while gerson was cool I'd like a proper boss)
>>742545762>mentally ill man gets overwhelmed by things he doesn't know>thinks he's better than everyone for being a retard
>>742541053Isn't that part of the point of ch5, that it's overproduced due to its masters being part lightner/darkner? Plus all the blatant homages/remakes/nostalgia/blahblahblah.
>>742547518Spamton really was the pinnacle of this Deltarune's story.
Need game save after the puzzle that teleports me back
>>742547030Secrets and the occult are fun thingsSometimes there's a payoffThis and the previous game are known to have elements worth theorizing about, it's half of the whole enchilada, and this game being episodic instead of being fully released means there's more mysteries. You could say for some, it's the only thing worth a shit about the game. In a vacuum, remove the weird elements and this game is pretty fucking uninteresting to a lot of people because there's really not a whole lot besides that other than zoomer humor, banging music and furry lugubt bullshit.
>>742547660I still don't get why everything was SO japanese.Never took asgore as a super weeb.Was it all really based purely off the handful of anime dvds Alphys lent him?
>>742541462Literally just Lucas looking through the mailboxes on Tanetane in M3. Fuck this shit.
>>742541149>screamer at the very endfucking called it lmao
>>742547739Plus manga and the Mew Mew doll.I also think it's a testament to how financially poor Asgore is with him dedicating everything to the flowers (plus Kris dickass trickery like flipping the TV over)
>>742542863You're right but I know media literacy is dead so let me present you with this: Did you consider that it was intentional? The entire chapter is glamourous, extra, colorful, ANIME. "One last adventure" before we get into the climax. It's got it's serious moments for sure but most of it was a fiery clash of ideals with a sprinkle of lament from Asgore. It wasn't trying to be as moody as the previous parts, but even in those moments, like treading through the darker invisible path areas with the watering can, they used a ton of negative space.
>>742547974Yes I did. Which is why I commented on the other thread I still trust the dog and think Chapter 5 will be vindicated by the last 2 chapters. But even so, I like nitpicking. >media literacyMy nigga this isn’t reddit, just call me a faggot or a dumb nigger please
>>742547518He just talks weird
isnt the existence of this text a hard disconfirm to any cope about suselle being headed for some kind of crash next chapter?its all but certain that noelle comes back to our party next chapter, so isnt it all but certain that she's gonna spend next chapter desperately wanting to "drink susie's venom" as this text implies? if they were gonna have a falling out toby wouldnt have written her to always have this reaction.
You know what got me fucked up? Alphys might genuinely be the Knight. It dawned on me like a fucking nightmare.
>>742548235I can see it
>>742548235how does she fit in the suit
>>742547518Still undefeated to this day, the best character in Deltarune.
Why was Ralsei so extremely fucking racist to orange?>Orange: Hey now, Im a human too!>Ralsei "HAHA VERY MICE. IM CHEESED TO MEET YOU. Com on Susie, put on the ears and tail. " *PROCEEDS to throw Gouda at Orange*Like even Susie got uncomfortable at the level of racism
>>742548235>>742548383Fat fucks.
>>742547518the gold standard desu
>>742548431darkners, as fake living creatures, are extremely insecure that even flowers can match them AND live in the light.
>>742548383very carefully
>>742548324It makes sense. She's at almost every single 'dark fountain' creation.She's the one who sends you to get the chalk from the closet.She's the one who has you all do your projects, so you'll go to the library, and she often goes there because she posts her anime reviews on the wall there.In Chapter 3, she captures Undyne, after first trying to capture her co-worker, Toriel, first.Chapter 4, she's the first person you fucking talk to about the Bunker.In Chapter 5, she's one of the very first people to 'show up' to the Church in the morning for the festival and helped 'clean up the mess'. And then when you beat the chapter and they've kidnapped Asgore, there's a fucking manga sitting on top of the television. You think that shit was Asgore's? WHO DO YOU THINK GAVE HIM THE MEW MEW DOLL?
>>742548234noelle's been wanting to drink susie's tea since chapter 2 anon, doesnt mean toby can't make them hate each other
>>742547518As someone who loves chapter 5 and Pink/Mew Mew: Yeah. Spam-Mans level of Gaster-bullshit hasnt been trumped yet. Kris agrees too, no other battle made him react as hard
>They don't know about the purified twisted sword Noelle will use to bring the golden route.
>>742548383Fatphobia in 2026? The world is healing
what if we get Seam as the last schizo boss and he was friend inside me all along?
Do you think the game is headed towards a true ending that's pacifist wholesome chungus and a bit saccharine? Or will it be more interesting than this?
>>742548654with toby saying "I hope you're able to make friends with everyone someday" on twitter? yesif the suselle breakup does happen in ch 6, expect them to get together "for real" in the golden ending
>>742548654they have no plan for stopping the Roaring beyond getting to the shelter
>>742547518The only character in the series that could get away with calling a teenage girl a whore
>>742548485Yeah but he wasnt this much of a cunt to to the others (except Flowery for different reasons)Orange showed up and he was like "Why the fuck you think YOU can be human? Go be with the other mice darkners who know their place and Squeaky Squeak"I wasnt joking either, even Susie went "Bro...Ralsei... fucking stop, talk normally to her. No I dont want to put on the costume"
>>742548510I think you're into something anon
>>742548510Watch Toby make Alphys le strong independent woman again from nowhere because when he did that in Undertale people mocked him for using such a joke character and thought that it couldn't be possible and that experiments had to be Gaster's. The very mentally sound Toby has been fueled by the desire to spite us ever since.
>>742548098Sorry babe but when you're trying to have a genuine discussion about something you actually give a shit about, calling people dumb bullshit is the easiest way to get them to handwave everythin' you say.Anyways you only get faggot privilege when you suck the SOUL out of the tip of my cock you curtains were blue cause they were blue ass microbe
>>742547974You'd have a point if your point wasn't just copy pasting exactly how your idol Toby described his chapter. But when we played the game it was just disappointing garbage. Media literacy my ass.
>>742548510not sure about her being the Knighr but she's 100% a Gaster agent like Sans and the rest of the painted gonersboth her and Sans are newcomers that weren't here for last year's festivalMew Mew's shadow crystal was her doing guaranteed
Ralsei is going to try and stop the prophecy by becoming a princess only for Lancer to show up and fuck up his plan
>>742548654Well if Sans scene with the drawing is anything to go by, this shit is gonna end up being some pseudo-prequel to Undertale, so whatever world that we are living in right now in Deltarune, in needs to lead into the world transforming into that.Like I dont know if your choices are gonna lead to you fucking the purple dinasour or not, but SOME SHIT has to go down no matter what
>>742548689God it would be fucking repulsive.I can imagine the whole ending to this being just some bullshit about susie saving kris with asriel's help and it all ending with a fucking gay parade where somehow all darkners and lightners are dancing together in harmony and fucking each other and the true identity of the knight being another random deer looking creature that makes quirky funny internet jokes but isn't part of town, and sans plowing toriel while telling you "see ya in undertale kiddo"
>>742549024But what if that's a giant fucking red herring
Who is the knight fighting/kidnapping next chapter
>>742548942Yeah man why would you use given context to formulate your perspective on anything. You're allowed to think it's shit anon, I think it's one of the weaker ones too, but my point was that it's stylized that way intentionally and not just supposed to be an "upgrade" to the art direction.
Normies were completely filtered by Toby. They all think Suselle is the end game and Alphyne equivalent even though its the most doomed shit since a married couple in an NTR vn
>>742549113Then why have the implications with weird route at all? Like the only "red herring" could be a specific character having to be killed off to "save the world" but "saving the world" itself can still have some fucked up shit going down.Listen anon, even if you are 100% positive that Toby is an absolute mega-hack, lets take that to its natural conclusion. If he fucking loves MOTHER as much as he says he does, and MOTHER 3 was down to fuck the world(or imply it anyway) then I dont see why Toby would have to limit himself to le wholesome chungus ending.
>>742549024I can see the end of a fight against susie being determined by whether kris is equipped with the twisted sword or not
>>742549247Either Toriel again, Carol (if she isn't the Knight/in on the conspiracy) or maybe Alvin? We technically only have the full Police code.
>>742548510FUCK
>>742547739Only the castle is japanese themed. The other 2/3 of the world are just garden and flower themed, with the only japanese theming being the Tori gates. And the castle itself is actual traditional japanese style with zen gardens
>>742546743I walk not the prophecyI follow the one true doephecy
>>742549314I know he likes weird shit and that he's a twin peaks fan too. But he's not gonna pull a twin peaks season 3I'm just saying undertale already exists
>>742548431>>742548485>>742548739Ralsei is transphobic
>>742548739Seething that AV was above the content rating and being unable to do it
>>742548739Orange was simply too bitchy for him. Too easy to trigger then kept saying he looked weird and needed a hat.
Guys what... what if anything happening in deltarune isn't real??There's someone moving the strings... with a keyboard, or a gamepadWhat if someone could... restart deltarune and try again, over and over? Multiple simulated universes
>Aqua singlehandedly proving femkris, the color of the actual soul kris has and potentially even what the knight is (it has his original soul).
>>>/trash/
We've been robbed
>>742549721why did the flowers keep trying to give ralsei a hat. Are they hiding asreal from asgore?
The ROARing knight
>>742549871He's so retarted that it's cute.
>>742549901Ralsei is a plantner that is also a shadow being
>>742549871strange things were fappening to me
>>742549901Flowery's excuse is what you describedOrange just thinks Ralsei is ugly
>>742549816>Bratty FemKris needing correction.HMMMMM
>>742549871Finally a tolerable Blue, ugh Getting so tired of people interpreting the "Mr. Butterfly" shit as conformation on being some tranny
>>742550061hey, settle down okay.
>>742541053I agree with you OP but probably not the best example lol.I kinda miss when it was simpler it had a certain charm to it, this scene in particular I remember first time I was playing it struck me weirdly, I'm looking at Toby's furry ocs being SERIOUS BUSINESS OH WEW BLOOD! with all this lighting and shit.
>>742547067
>>742550010BRATTY LITTLE HUMAN GIRL...NEEDS SHELTER CORRECTION...
>>742550078Suck my dick.
>>742549871How can anyone hate these two goofballs?
why is she like this
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Side B or the aborted weird route started having creepy photorealistic elements considering that we got this thing in the undertale's 10th anniversary stream
>>742541149>GO GO GADGET COUCH EXTENDER
>>742550260IT SHOILD HAVE BEEN ME!>>742550223>Steals your shirt>Won't give it back>Pick her up and noogie her until she gives
>>742550271Was the true lab any different?
>>742550335>until she givesYou want her to be naked?!https://files.catbox.moe/mnou4f.png
>>742541053Its been 8 years since chapter 1, Toby never did all the art, the style has always been mixed because of collaborators, if you hate it that much go make a Deltrarune "Downgraded edition" or some shit. I understand all the 5 year olds who liked this shit when it first came out are in their angsty teen phase now but I'm here to tell you all to get the fuck over it.
>>742549973Id honestly be suprised if Ralsei wasnt a flower by now. Look at Asgore going "I know what he is" at the end like the vaguepost king he is. Dude knows flowers
>>742550271i think gaster might have rtx on if we ever see himor we're getting an eoe instrumentality sequence mixed with the answers iconic peeling scene
>>742548510>kris hates working for the knight>chapter 4 juice scene>kris takes the opportunity to fuck with alphys>alphys watches kris drink the juice meant for her>she contemplates if the soul if able to give such specific commands>rolls with it and tells kris what (You) need to knowOh fuck I think you're on to something
so is he pretended to be a retard or actually retarded
>>742550407She knew what she was getting into.https://files.catbox.moe/6s5j35.png
>>742550234Yellow's not a problem.It's just that some think about how we could've had a cute ballerina girl in a better timeline instead of a gay nigga
>>742548235i've been saying this since ch2she's been at every single fountain location either directly or indirectly asides from kris' house and nobody would notice her being at any of them
FUCK I LOVE BERDLY HES SO FUCKING HOT IN A LOSER WAY
>>742548510https://youtu.be/6KUVOW6aR2Y?si=1x6rLybLTPfSbiTgThis is Doofy levels of retardation and I am here for it
>>742544326>My Serial Killer Girlfriend Can't Possibly Be This Cute!
>>742550475Both, he's holding back key information and is delusional about Kris having a working plan
>>742550542Ma'am, contain your ego.
>>742549247Noelle, per Kris's request
Why do 90% of normalfags including some on here do ShadowCrystals + Normal Route? Are they too retarded to realize they will get cucked? Is Toby going to flip-flop and make TwistedSword a decoy while satisfying the normaltards that got the ShadowCrystals? Rule of the majority after all...
So if ralsei was just holding back: why? Doesnt that mean he just let Undyne and Asgore be kidnapped?
>>742550234Inconsistent ugly ass nigga that was made "handsome" on purpose for a joke that landed poorly Yellow by itself is not the problem, the problem is how Blue latches onto Yellow and doesn't have shit on it's own when all other flowers had their own moments without relying on each other too much
>>742550598>why are people playing the game with more gameplay
Does anyone else think aborted WR is going to be the worst ending? It would be a nice subversion of undertale's begging to abort genocide at all times.
>>742550542We know, Seth
>>742550516With tits that big she really is Toriel's daughter...
guy if noelle can freeze shit why she didn't freeze the lake to walk on it why drown?
>>742550598people think about how genocide 'tainted' their game permanently and are too spooked to try it againi'm partially guilty of this myself but i do have a ch2 save right after meeting noelle so i can start it whenever
>>742550643I don't think it's gonna be the worst ending for the verse (that honor belongs to the Weird Route) but I think it's gonna be like aborting Genocide in Hotland.
>>742550650With tits that big she is my wife.
>>742550542Seth...
>>742548431the weird route peaked in chapter 2 where it was an actual substantial route with notable gameplay sections and a different final boss rather than just a handful of cutscenes. same with the promise of getting to see new lightners each chapters only for it to just be noelle and the chapters we're still light on real plot
>>742550643It already has the worst scene in the game, even worse than normal cause in this one we raise her hope to its peak then crash it down.
>>742550639The Knight is hard enough that it should discourage anyone from fighting it in Normal Route. Yet, >>742549165.
>>742550643maybe, but in an ironic twist ch5 abort is the better of the two when compared to the normal route susie doesn't have lesbian brain rot and noelle is still awoken
>>742550717yeah i didnt find any of the sword things (besides the north odd looking area) and was not interested in doing the boards again for T rank so thats the only shadow I skipped.
>>742550717Only a FAGGOT wouldn't accept the challenge
>>742550475yes. he's simultaneously omniscient from the prophecy yet also knows shit when that would be useful to the gang
>>742550650throwing my hat in the ring by pointing out that kris is an ass girl, with booba of indeterminate size
>>742550669WR is the most fun part of DR and I'm tired of hearing otherwise
>>742550669Weird Route transfer Side B flags all over your saves including the main one, also making "_b" copies of itMaybe possibly other places if you take into account the shit Toby pulled on Genocide Route Nobody really knows yet what will happen with those flags, just that they're there
>>742548235>"Not to mention, Mew Mew's character in the first one... Is more stale than the ramen I eat at home by myself with the lights off."She's a character I never think about. But now that you mention her, a lot of things make sense. I wouldn't be disappointed at her being more significant.
>>742550774Either way works for me.Bottom-heavy.Petite.Secret tittymonster.Luv me FemKris. Simple as.
>>742550717i tried doing it last year right after release but kept on getting filtered by the first sword halleven if i had managed to consistently not die to that, the direction changing rocks would've completely fucked my chance every time
femkris and rudyknighters being the only people to vaguely "win" this chapter will never not be funny
>>742550689True!>>742550774She has the body of a perfect woman yet she wastes it all away, sad...
so who's ready for chapter 6 to be more vagueposting where susie FINALLY decides to break into the bunker for real this time in the next chapter?
>>742550751Alright tranny bait, then how do you resolve the fact that there are only 3 save files? Do you expect Toby to magically hand you a ThornRing in chapter 6 so you can do your guilt-free Normal Route + Sword Route? It's literally said in Sword Route though, the forbidden path began with ice magic.
>>742550827rudy knighters are just coping as usual, him breaking his ass falling off of a ladder isn't proof nor is the knight slamming into a wall at mach 2 and being momentarily staggered femkris bros did win bigly though, i don't think anyone can deny that
>>742545031>>tries to get back with torielI don't thinl that will happen.He said in chapter 5 that he now realizes how much of a burden unwanted affection us.
>>742550553>chapter 7>fun gang is sealing the fountain in the shelter>everyone in hometown is there>except...>"Hey, where's alphys?">cut to outside the shelter>alphys is walking down the road like her usual dorky self>suddenly she stops hunching over>she turns into a 10/10 model with huge tits>her hips sway as she continues to walk before turning around>a convertible rides up to her>it's papyrus>alphys hops in and takes a bite of his perfectly cooked spaghetti>they ride off, leaving behind the knight mask, a FLCL-themed bat, and proof that kris was her partner in crime
>>742550662Because she doesn't want to walk on it, she wants her and Kris to drown in it
>>742550717It's practically on your face, I don't know what's so difficult about this.On a normal route you're blocked off a few things if you don't deviate from the main path in a specific way. But the shadow crystals remain obtainable, so it's not accidental. Chapter 3 makes sure you're aware that you can do that without internet telling you. And a lot of people still find the challenge of beating a difficult fight that "you're supposed to lose" entertaining. The NPC telling you "find these shadow crystals for me" is right there in castle town.There's no reason to believe there isn't a purpose for the crystals in one of the routes, or that they can't be used for anything more than crafting the twisted sword.
>>742550553>>742550923>Alphys suddenly being 10/10 hotWhat would that even look like
>>742550774>ass girlNah, his bussy is his greatest power
>>742550827femkristards got cyan which is single handedly the biggest win those fucker could ask for in arguing that kris has a pussy. it also help that we learned literally nothing new about the prophecy for TECHNICALLY there's nothing stopping Toby from doing some schizo reveal where kris was pretending to be a retarded troon. Rudy knightfags got nothing beyond their hero being a fraud again and dessfags commiting mass suicide
>>742550950Drowning leads to an ending she doesn't want though
If Krisp is a girl then I'll just draw her with a dick
>>742551032Small futa dick I hope.
is 6 and 7 coming out together?I need it.
>>742551006You asked a dumb questions so that dumbass gave you a dumb answer, what do you expect
>>742548510>tfw the knight only kidnaps people alphys wants to fuckHOLY SHIT
>>742550643I actually don't think there will be major changes, mostly because Susie and Ralsei still give their sappy "I'm so glad it's over" speeches. I know it seems absurd given how important Noelle's going to be next chapter, but I can see her just completely giving up and following her role. We'll get some interesting insights on her thoughts but that's it.
>>742551070Only 6
>>742551070NoHowever 7 and 8 will come out together
Turning Asgore's store into a dark japanese world just because there are a few manga lying around was really forced; you had like four episodes to develop that and you didn't do anything; I'm almost certain that, originally, this episode was supposed to take place at Alphys's house.
Why was Chapter 5 so obsessed with character assassination?
dear liblogs if kris is the girl why does "she" get cucked like a guy?
>>742548431Ralsei is a massive chudYou will never be humanSpouts mouse slurs for half the chapter
>>742551070It'd be the right choice for them to wait and release them both but they're undoubtedly too worried about making people wait too long now.
>>742551119you don't understand chapter 5 was only PRETENDING to be dogshit. it'll go back to being good next chapter...
>>742547083You can't tell if the game using Another World as an example of a modern indie game is a joke?
>>742551064>>742551032Faaaaaaaags
>>742551123toby is bringing the every elusive yuri ntr genre to the mainstream
>>742549901He's supposed to have a hat and Darkners can inherently tell there's something off about him
>>742550804I knew this would be the case but did it anyway on my second slot
>>742551117they don't even use the theming well. flowery and cyan are pretty much the only flowers to fit with the japanese aesthetic. toby just needed this chapter to have a unique gimmick beyond "nostalgia" and just went with his own personal obsession
I thought Susie understood what kind of person Noelle was.
Humans are actually the japanese of Deltarune and Asgore hecking LOVES japan. its why the dreemurrs adopted a human in their monster only ethno state
>>742551123Catti got cucked like a guy too though, crying included.
>>742550010I think there was a 10 year old roaring knight kris Yes really
>>742550804Side B marking your entire game does concern me it's going to spoil something on the normal route I'm not supposed to know on the first playthrough.
>>742550643
>>742548510You might be onto something anon.Although>You think that shit was Asgore's?I think that Asgore was a closet weeb since it explains why Flowery's voice clips don't match his text lines - he learned English by overhearing shitty anime dubs.
>>742551276don't hate on noelle too hard she'll win you back over if you give her a chance
>>742551287>The Last Samurai but it's a monster being a total humanaboo.
>>742551276Susie died after chapter 4The purple creature in chapter 5 never had this conversation
>>742551307well it's not kris, it's like his cyan soul and the knight seems to be a vessel piloted by itI think we could take over one of these roaring knight vesselsSpamtonNEO prophesied this
>>742551276She got brainwashed by the lesbian mind virus
>Jevil and Spamton can be beaten by either ACTing or fighting>Knight and Gerson can only be beaten by stalling>Mew Mew needs to be beaten with ACTingWhy?
Fuck it, this should've been the Blue Soul mode.Game suddenly becoming a platformer with the text "You're blue now." would've been way more impactful than the reaction of "Oh this is kinda neat."
>>742551093My idea was that in aborted WR Noelle will lawyer her way around the wording of the prophecy to make it as bad as possible for Kris and (You) as revenge. This is where the girl/second hero ambiguity will come into play.
deltarune is actually the story of an autistic lesbian femcel being raped by her childhood friend cause her to LARP as a troon. only for said friend to horrible cuck her driving her to the brink of suicide all the while every male around her is to retarded to fuck some sense into her
>>742551351I think susie got replaced with suzy.
>>742551363>Knight and Gerson can only be beaten by stallingNo you actually do need to do enough damage to the knight for the fight to end, likewise you need to "impress" Gerson enough for the fight to end
>>742541816Based Pablo
>>742551383>femcel*theycel
>>742551328>if you give her a chanceThat ship has sailed, amigo
>>742551383And a traumatic childhood where a groomer used their soul to control demonic shadow mechs in their vast underground wonderland realm for endless adventures
>>742551363Toby REALLY fucking hates the idea of players fighting in his game. its why stat increases from combat don't carry over between chapters, and why you don't even have the option to fight most of the flowers
Has anyone got the picture of Susie being brainwashed by Gaster?
>>742549816but how can kris be THE GIRL if they're already THE RAPED with human soul and parts?
>>742551117It's just Tony's team's "make whatever you want I don't care" chapter it's not meant to fit with the rest of the game
>>742551469close enough
>>742551363If there's a logic to it then it is beyond me.I just cannot fathom deviating from Spamton and Jevil's legitimately more satisfying system.Maybe it was just laziness.
>>742550987
>>742551310It's not just Side B. The Late Aborted Weird Route has its own flag that also turns on and is retroactive.
>>742551301>guys>cryingFound the subversive tranny
>>742551248You forgot pink
>>742551456Which fucking sucks because trying to Spare the Flowers is the most irritating shit. I hated that dumbass fake trial shit and Pink is outright obnoxious having to build the TP meter back up and spending a shitload of points to progress the fight.I thought Tenna had the most annoying Spare, but at least you could defeat him with fighting without having to give up recruits or lose out on saving him.
>>742551469Nevermind I found it
>>742551383noelle would 100% smash kris' clam if she just asked, but kris has turbo autism and doesn't want to cuddle with a doe forever at the moment noelle being with susie is pure copium, and the supply ran out on the weird/ aborted and is about to on normal
>>742551536A for effort, D- for execution.That said I'd probably mating press the shit out of that slampig nerd
I still think it would be mega kino if Undertale checks for your completed weird route for some slightly different dialog during the Sans boss fight. Like just a >hehe... guess you never got your ice cream after allwould make me forgive all of the cuckoldry in chapter 5.
>>742549901if we assume that ralsei is the forest around the town, then that means that asgore likely saw him during the original fountain incident.asgore seeing ralsei again would be a cataclysmic event, we're lucky that the fountain's darkness obscured him for the most part.
>>742551456i think its more that everyone almost exclusively plays the hecking wholesome quirk chungus dont hurt anyone routeso making an effort for balancing stuff for carried over stats wouldnt be worthwhile
>>742551554mew mew was already an undertale character so i don't really classify her as "new characters specifically designed to fit with the chapter's themeing"
>>742551456That's really fucking bizarre if that's the case.Why even include FIGHT as an option if you only want to craft 'heckin good vibes befriending' minigames?
>>7425505981. They think the Normal Route will be, at worst, the equivalent of a Neutral Route instead of the Bad Ending it's obviously being set up as.2. This >>742550669. They think the Weird Route is either an "Evil Route" or a "Genocide Route."3. They don't know that if you don't spare the bullet petals, despite what Rasiel saves, they've already fucked their Pacifist Run.
Does the hammer game still get set up if you never spoke to Undyne and freed the dogs from jail?
boy meet girlKris and NoelleKing and QueenThey should've won that day.The tragedy of Deltarune is that they can't be what they should be. But if the "normal" route is what breaks their bond, the "weird" route will be what fixes it.
>>742551559tenna is actually really easy if you just spam 'i love tv' every turnit's actually faster than doing the minigames
>>742551369we got the orange soul mode and it was used with the climbing mode.maybe in CH6 we'll get the blue soul mode and it'll be used with the platformer mode.real question is what toby will do for the cyan soul
>>742551481honestly it is kinda ambiguous, plants dont understand gender much anyways. But I think someone got the cyan soul kris has and is manipulating him with it.
>>742551620>don't play the wholesome quirk chungus route>lose out on content in castle town for nothing in returnWell yeah why would you fight if you get punished for doing so?
>>742551248>they don't even use the theming well. flowery and cyan are pretty much the only flowers to fit with the japanese aesthetic.Honestly you saying that made the Dark World make a bit more sense in my eyes. Asgore doesn't solely like anime. And despite the Torii gates everywhere it only gets extremely blatant with the Japanese theming at the castle, and despite that fact we still just have places like THE DINER and characters like the Hopschef, Yellow being a cowboy (as Asgore liked a cowboy show), and random shit like the Tropical Starwalker or that one dude struggling to grab cheese.Since the Flowers are trying to build an "ideal" world it would make sense for it to be a bunch of stuff Asgore likes slapped together even if it didn't make a lot of sense
>>742551659The Weird Route already did that. It also shows that Noelle doesn't give a shit about Susie in a romantic way. The nanosecond Kris offers her the same thing she thinks Susie does, only better, she goes straight for him.
>>742550804Well that's a good thing isn't it? So if I do Normal, WR, and Aborted, then what the other anon was saying about Ralsei and Susie >>742551093 should be of no worry. I've got the power of the game files themselves with me. I'm playing on Switch not on PC btw.
>>742547974Even chapters 3 and 4 used less negative space and abandoned the simplicity chapters 1 and 2 benefited from.
>>742551689Yeah, its a self-reinforcing schema.This is why allowing fan feedback to pollute the creative process is generally a bad idea.Toby probably shouldn't have released deltarune in chapters.
>>742551710Implications of a firey ralsei
>>742550643>>742550686>>742550734>>742551093Reminder that a Late Aborted Weird Route still keeps the Weird Route flag + gets its own unique one.I am 100% unironically convinced it's the road to the True Ending. After all, we're told to take the middle road.
>>742549871R O B B E DOBBED
>>742551710True>>742551769huh?
>>742542932Yes, mikefag, you were right. I'm sorry for doubting you.There, are you happy now?
>>742551634that's because undertale was built entirely fighting and sparing so removing fighting from its "sequel" would feel weird. also chapter 1 set itself up as a darker take on undertale's morality where sometimes you DO have to fight and can't always use the power of friendship only for that to only apply to king and actually sparing everyone IS hecking based and cool
>>742547083Not only that, it's being compared to Another World which is old as dirt
Uhh, guys...?
>>742551820Noelle looks for high agency people it seemsWe become that in WR in spades, hard attractionSusie is kinda that, some attractionA firey ralsei basically is like full on going against their own programming in a potentially apocalyptic crashoutMaybe im just hallucinating but ralsei's rapid temperament shift is unsettling. I think he got aware of the reality of his existence and its rapidly repleting fuse.He's a ticking time bomb.Maybe this is paranoia?
>>742550923Don't worry anon, I got the reference
>>742551659kris is actually a girl while noelle is a tranny its why "she" doesn't know who was king or queen. our king jaru will be vindicated once again
>>742548627how do you mistake fetishism for phobia
>>742551889But Ralsei seems to be time looped?He says some weird shit in ch 1 that suggests this.Hard to tell.
>>742551843>to only apply to kingand the Titan. Wet fart of an encounter but unlike King you can't stall this dude out
>>742547117I think the team and the money is the worst thing that could've happened to Toby. He's given up on focusing on the things that actually make his games good and unique in favor of focusing on the things that he always wanted to do, which just so happen to be things he was never good at, which every other game did better.
>>742551887maybe she really is black coded.
>>742550923>>742551897Scary movie, right?I got it too, but thought everyone else did, so I didn't mention it.
>the power crazyed doe memes were canon all alongi kneel
>>742551972i forgot was this the CH1 era or the CH2 era?
Mew Mew dating
>>742551929yeah the fucker that isn't sentient and barely even counts as alive can't be talked down. real strong inversion of undertale's core message toby
>>742551934This and Japan. Japan is literally Toby living in his own Dark World.
>>742551972Some people clocked WR as the enabling intrusive thoughts.route rather than the flat UT kill kill kill deal. I like that it genre shifts to paranormal horror, kinda wondering if they intend to after the main path is done make more routes as there's only 4 controllable characters. Twisted/Sword is the main 3rd that comes up.
>It's escapism, can't you see? It's not healthy>Have to go back and beat every Darkner to deathNow it's time to fight
>>742551972someone post the comic of noelle randomly talking to fucking flowey of all characters
>>742551902Why are you trying to compete for the worst post ever made?
>>742551889my gut feeling was that the prophecy is coming faster and less predictable than anticipated and he's stressed out about it susie doing a 180 on it also likely made it worse, but he can't say anything to her because it might make things worsehe seems to have somewhat chilled out in the post credits scene but it's hard to tell if he's just looking out for her or if he's mellowed out
>>742552064>>742551902The entire Holiday family are femboys except Rudy: female deer don't have antlers.
I worry that Ralsei's destabilizing.
>>742552091retardkun...
>>742552014I only bring it up cause you're for whatever reason punished for attacking Titanspawn despite being made of the same shit. So even with the message in mind, something's off.
I am Femkris's greatest soldier
I wish the problem was the artistic side. What's the worst in chapter 5 is that is a literal flat line compared to the previous ones, exception made for the Weird Route. Maybe Toby intended it to be that way before this supposed giga tragedy crashes down but then again, I even liked chapter 1 better than this one.anyway Kriselle was written from the beginning. Noelle needs Kris to unlock her true potential, to break out of the game, to achieve a real personality. That's what made me happer the most in this chaptersthose who support any other pairing don't really have a clear view of what's going on
>>742552127dont tell him, its funnier this way.
>>742552125I don't worry. I hope.It'd be fun to watch.
>>742552149We know Toby Fox.
>replaying chapter 2>having fun, just beat up Spamton NEO again>get to the ferris wheel
>>742552149were you one of the original three posters of last year?i was, but i didn't make the video/ document
Where is my freedom sauce?
Post yfw Noelle leaves Susie for Kris after he confesses to her
so how fucked is kris the moment noelle realizes he hasn't actually changed and its all the SOULs doing?
>>742552001
>>742552205You can skip it
>>742552149No, I am.
>>742552227Kris cant survive without the soul anyways.Just dont swap me in a satanic ritual for a blue soul like a dumbfuck.
Noelle has really big boobs for her age you just can't tell from the sprite.
>>742552213>mfw headcanon event doesn't happen
>>742548510Where the fuck is the pipinfag, he's got to get on this
>>742541816Seething latinx
>>742552263Noelle will have a growth spurt next chapter and will have to borrow one of her mother's bras.
>>742552163I need a followup with all choices
>>742552227less than you would expect she still loves the kris she remembers from her childhood, and kris has shown that she is still that person from time to time
if there's only one ending, as Toby himself suggested, the Weird Route will leak into the normal route and become one with that (plus if there's a side C D E whatever in store for the next chapters, they also will unify regardless).food for thought
You know some people read through interactions like this in ch5 and DON'T realise Kris has a crush on Susie? How crazy is that? Buncha autists in this fandom
>>742550234They made Blue too zesty. Nigga looks straight out of Steven Universe.
>>742552227Not much since she and Noelle will have to work together to survive whatever place they ended up in the Weird Route.
>>742552263you actually can tell from the spritevery few characters have pronounced booba like this
>>742541816based spicbro
>>742552190I am lowkey concerned what a ch 7 ralsei will be like (assuming he survives to ch 7)
she yearns for that sweat freedom sauce
>>742552312could also be a 'the game doesn't end until you do it right' sort of thing
>>742552227She probably suspects something else is at least partly at play since she hears a somewhat different voice
>>742552313people saying that kris didn't have a crush on susie at the very least was just susellefags trying to nuke other relationships it's been hinted since ch1 that kris has a thing for susie since she can compliment her during the pair fight with lancernot to mention the myriad of scenes in the other chapters where the 'pro susie' option seems to be the ones that kris doesn't take any issue with
so /v/?
>>742552381>SunibeeHe's alive???????
>>742552458This is 80% as bad as the Among Us reference
>>742552313Anyone argues you just point them to the tea flavours in Chapter 2. Literally quantifiable proof
>>742552227Considering Noelle got excited when, between chapter 2 and 4, Kris talked to her and he sounded like he used to and not with his new speaker-sounding voice?I think he'll be fine
>>742552213If this doesnt happen I set hometown on fire
>>742552458This looks like a job for the king of gamers himself
Am I too hopeful on thinking Side B will play the game backwards with just Noelle and Kris
>>742552313>>742552447Nah that's just Kris pretending to be close to Susie so the prophecy takes her instead of Noelle
>>742552519Yeah.
>>742552490>Noelle's type is an alcoholic dadShe's so perfect bros...
>>742549871>blue's design is so shit the only way to salvage it is to make him look like rouxls
who's next on the chopping block
>>742552458i got the (canon) girlfriend version
>>742550359yes, that pic is one of the changeshonestly i don't remember much though outside of some shit with the walls laughing or something
>>742552592They're cute. Need everyman bf.
>>742552478Barely. That drawing is not new.
Is it just me or was Susie suddenly reciprocating Noelle's feelings rather hamfisted?She used to be oblivious whenever Noelle implied stuff and would alwaye prefer to hang out with Kris, and all of that changes in one day?
>>742552000chapter one, I believe
>>742552661She's following (her reading of) the prophecy. That's why she is all in.
>>742552661She's pretending.After she saw the end of the prophecy in chapter 4 she knew she had to play her part even if it hurt KrisThis is my massive cope
>>742552661Susie is prophecypilledIt's over
>>742552212Noelle ate it (the greedy bitch)
>>742552661congrats you also figured out chapter 5 sucks.Your options to cope are>it's actually genius writing because the break in character personality is caused by the prophecy >toby fox had this chapter written by his tranny employees so he could work on 6 which will totally be good
>>742552419Fat fucking chud
>>742552519Not really, especially considering save points which can be something manipulated by the two. But the question would be why. What would their goal be?
I LOVE THESE FLOWERS SO FUCKING MUCH, BROS
>>742552661>>742552692>>742552701>>742552746Did you people forget the moment they shared in chapter 2 or something? Susie's always liked Noelle.Susie does not interpret reciprocating Noelle's feelings as compromising her relationship with Kris in any way.
>>742552797That was literally retconned though when Susie previously said the reason for bullying was Kris' homelife and Toriel
>>742552519That would be too kino for Toby, but just imagine...>-Chapter 1>-Chapter 2>-Chapter 3>-Chapter 4>-Chapter 5>-Chapter 6>-Chapter 7>--Chapter 7, Side B>--Chapter 6, Side B>--Chapter 5, Side B>--Chapter 4, Side B>--Chapter 3, Side B>--Chapter 2, Side B>--Chapter 1, Side B>---Chapter [NULL.ERR]>----Chapter -1, Side C>----Chapter -2, Side C>----Chapter -3, Side C>----Chapter -4, Side C>----Chapter -5, Side C>----Chapter -6, Side C>----Chapter -7, Side C>-----Chapter 6, Side A/C>-----Chapter 7, Side A/CHomerune complete by 2126.
Forget Susie and NoelleReturn to mouse
>>742552797Having literally just watched it that scene was 90% just Susie trying to convince Noelle it's all a dream without her killing herself to wake up, the other 10% was her being awkward. She thought Noelle was nice but there wasn't anything to even imply that Susie reciprocated her feelings
>>742547030Tell us - in full detail - what the function of this board is.
>>742552381funny how people looked at the weird route and figured that noelle was going to be like chara (muh wholesome kid groomed into a monster) or clocked in that noelle was REALLY going to be like chara (a mentally unstable psycho obsessed with power who sees YOU as the means to getting it)
>>742552797I didn't forget but I don't want to treat Krusie fags badly after how they were done dirty this chapter
>>742552797>spazzes out so hard that one of the posts he replies to has nothing to do with thatcalm down dumbass
>>742552661It didn't change, Susie STILL wants to hang out with Kris.
>>742552519im hoping for unique eldritch location
>>742552924Not as much as she does her girlfriend
according to chapter 5 all the horrible shit susie said and did to kris in ch1 and the newest girl was actually because she as assmad over his 'relationship' with Noelle (ignore the fact that chapter 1 implied that susie was also just a bully in general at the time idk)
>>742552880Kino. Hopefully the tranny fad would have died at that point and he could start making the games good again.
>>742552975Suzy took her place I think
>That time I said your mother would be happier if you were dead?>Uhh yeah I just wanted doe pussy and thought you were dating sorryDire assassination.
>>742552975iirc doesn't susie also seem somewhat surprised that kris and noelle have a long history together or am i misremembering
>>742552898if ralsei knows that noelle and kris will be the death of them all why does he put up with kris's blatant shit and go along with susie inviting noelle into the dark world?
>>742553034He already gave up
>>742552880I want more alt. routes and crazier ways to try to break the prophecy.Like the vessel killing the rest only for like normalNPC and Image_Friend to inexplicably slot into your party to keep the prophecy intact.Just shit like that, to see how much the world will contort itself to keep events intact.Stuff that feels like post-game. WR being a gamebreak is neat and we'll maybe see more of how the system at play bends when pushed.
>>742545895It's the universe whre Kris dies and Dess lives. That's Kris' greatest dream.
>>742553112Too much work.Stupid dog too busy eating chocalate wrapped in penutbutter.
>monsters are explicitly stated to not bleed in both undertale and deltarune>susie bleeds in chapter 4uhh....
>>742553034He didn't know about the first dark fountain, what if he doesn't know he's marching to his end?
>>742553034Trees can't think that far anon. They only know things.
>>742552797Susie liking Noelle was established early, but she was never this aggressive about pursuing her until this chapter. I don't think she's being full on mind controlled but I imagine seeing the love finds the girl prophecy encouraged her
>>742553178she's a secret 5th thing
>>742553178Everyone bleeds right?
>>742553034its almost like toby didn't think about the implications of a character knowing the plot beforehand so ralsei just comes off as a retard
>>742553203>Susie liking Noelle was established early Genuinely when
>>742552898>Ralsei probably is aware of snowgrave route>Ch 6 noelle invitation to castletown>At a time Ralsei's stress levels are trending upwardsThat it'll take a year to see if ch 5 ralsei was just an anomaly or if it's an escalation spiral to thermal detonation is annoying.
>>742553178It is suspicious but people split hairs trying to ignore it.> Cast doubt on knowledge of the kid asking about human blood.> Darkworlds just make monster dust look like blood> Monsters bleed, they only turn to dust upon dying.Are just a few of the arguments you can look forward to seeing.
>>742551889The entirety of CH5 on the Normal Route is just one massive countdown to a disaster on all fronts.
>>742552975Wait. Wasn't that even during the time Kris started distancing himself from others, including Noelle, because of what happened to him and/or Dess?How would Susie see them as close back then, that doesn't make any sense.
>>742553251Chapter 2. Chapter 4.In 4 she is the one suggesting you go to Noelle's place being a third wheel.Make of that information what you will.
so when does the plot actually start. so far its just susie dicking around occasionally being rewarded with codes while kris does the bare minimum to stop her
>>742541053Why does /v/ love woke troon games?
>>742553305next year
>>742552898She's not, though. She wants self-determination and freedom.In the WR Noelle just wants to LEAVE, I don't know why people keep twisting this.She doesn't want revenge.She doesn't want to destroy the town.She doesn't want to probe the boundaries of her darkness.She wants to just LEAVE TOWN.
>>742552975>>742553291On the other hand CH5 reminds the player, on the Normal Route especially, that Susie is a selfish cunt that only looks out for herself, and is willing to hurt other people to get there.That's where the "she's mind controlled" nonsense comes from.While in reality people forget the exact nature of her own evil - she gest WORSE the more things are going her way.
>>742553291susies also shocked to learn that kris and noelle have shared history so...
>>742553253Yeah I believe Chapter 6 Ralsei is gonna crash out. Toby is planning for him to be proactive in the plot (bc he can't do anything with the silent protag) so he asked his team to write him like an asshole in Chapter 5.
>>742553291Noelle was still interacting with Kris enough at school, they just never went to each other's houses like in the old days. That's why Toriel is so shocked when Kris makes a new friend in chapter 1 while Noelle literally preps some homework for him
>>742553312Is there anything else to play?
>>742552975And ignore that chapters 3 and 4 implied she was jealous of Kris having Toriel for a mother.
>>742553349...and she wants to leave with the one that awakened her to the fact. The only other one that changed, that showed her the way. The way to grow wings and leave.
>>742551456Deltarune is honestly a terrible rpg all things considered. Everything surrounding the rpg gameplay is good, but the core has gotten worse and worse overtime.
>>742553291>>742553406It's a misinterpretation. People think that "distancing" means they never interacted.While in-game it's shown, over and over, that what it actually meant is that Kris did this push-and-pull dance with Noelle. The two are blindingly obviously in love to anyone who sees them, and Kris knows that for whatever secret reasons he SHOULD cut her off completely, but still can't bring himself to do that.Which is part of Weird Route's irony - Kris reacts this violently to (You)s attempts at getting close to Noelle, but at the same time wants it himself.
So this chapter + the stone stuff in ch2 made it pretty clear thatRalsei isn't a darkner, right?Then what the hell is he? (Rootfags do not reply)
>>742553396She starts looking out for Lancer as early as Chapter 1 thoughever
>>742553304The implication people are talking about is that Susie liked Noelle for a long time, even before the events of Deltarune started especially considering the dialogue mentioned here >>742552975 . But prior to the Chapter 2 thing later on Susie was never shown to like her. Even when Noelle wanted to invite them to the study right as chapter 2 started all Susie cared about is getting her to leave so that she and Kris can go back to their castle town funtime. Not even a blush, or a slight stutter or something that's commonly used on a character to show that kind of interest.
>>742552752Yeah, the ending where they all gave up their consciousness and reverted back to their forms did make me emotional. Very good cast.
>>742553508>the people who are correct do not reply
>>742553112That would be unironically awesome.The player trying to wrack their brain thinking of ways to disrupt the game's narrative.There are tons and tons of points where you can nudge the game off track, but most of them either snap back on rails soon afterwards or result in death.There are multiple endings depending on the approach you end up taking.> Default: Allow the fated outcome to play out.> Momentum: There is a part of the game where you can nudge things off course, and before the game has a chance to correct there will be another less obvious opportunity to nudge things further off course, and again, and again, until something finally snaps.> Exploit: There are intentional exploits in the game. By abusing them you can access places and do things that otherwise could not be possible.> File Edit: Certain variables, old data, and unused assets are hidden in the game folder. By inserting, replacing, or removing certain files in certain places, you can alter the narrative without breaking the game.
>play normal route first>extremely disappointed by shallow festival after waiting for so long>think "maybe it's a little more elaborate if I did the weird route since Noelle would prioritise me instead">bring up video for chapter 5 weird route raw and with no prior knowledge/spoilers>mfw
>>742553508TreeImaginary friendKris
>>742553508>Look gamers it's the funny Simpson gif!!!Ewwwww
>>7425535261. She's at her rock bottom at the time.2. He's part of her nice, comfy, imaginary world fantasy.
>>742553480I think Toby doesn't really care that much about RPG design mechanics and is just using it as a medium to throw in deep lore in obscure aress as he is want to do
Saw a sick Morley Grove Dess fan art but the Jannies got the thread before I could look at it. Anyone here have it saved?
>>742553584Ok then in Chapter 2 where she stands up for Kris when Snowy and Monster Kid were talking shit
>>742553639She still needs Kris.
>>742553396i mean susie regressing back into some of her worst traits would make sense especially with stress of both the prophecy and festival and the fact that she was canonically a massive piece of shit just a few days ago. problem is that ch5 susie doesn't act like ch1 sus. her feelings for noelle were only portrayed as a basic "i like you" and not a full blown obsession, and she's never been this dismissive of her so called friends even with lancer at the start. she doesn't get more violent or intentionally cruel to vent her frustrations she just becomes a comically dense dyke who hurts everyone around her by complete accident which doesn't work with either ch1 or the later chapters
>>742553651Headcanon
WHERE THE FUCK WAS ASRIEL?WE WERE PROMISED ASRIEL AT THE FESTIVAL!
>>742553508Piles of Asriel's cum from when he used to hide in the closet to cry and jerk off about December.
>>742553448Yes?
>>742553684Asriel isn't real anon.
>>742552975The excuse on the bullying part would've worked if she wasn't a cunt to everyone and not just Kris Exception of Noelle with the pen shit, of course THOUGH playing Devil's advocate...Flowery exposes how much Susie sounds like a "hero" for being so selfish about Castletown's fountain
>>742553684Asriel does not exist.Nothing exists outside of hometown.Everything is construct and artifice.An automated diorama of something real.
>>742551659>But if the "normal" route is what breaks their bondAre you sure about that?Step 1: Fill out ballots as Kris/Noelle, show to Noelle before entryStep 2: Ferris wheel with Noelle, get extra dialogue for ballots, shake cabinApparently this trips a flag in the save file though obviously nobody knows how it's going to interact with chapter 6.
>>742553559WR did a momentum break so it's not impossible even if we have no idea what the hell is going to happen with them.I keep thinking on stuff like which character qualifies as 'prince of darkness', lancer/jevil/image_friend are the three I think might while there is just no shortage of monsters. With humans there is really just Kris despite Flowery trying to sneak as human.
>>742553606I do agree, Deltarune is bordering on action rpg territory at this point. I think Check should at least be deleted from the game. I can't believe an option that even the game calls "useless analysis" is just there.
>>742553763That would be incredibly lame and gayKinda like TADC's ending
>>742553765>Comic takes place in happytown
>>742553537It's called character development retard.I'll give you tips to write character development like a hack. First pick off a character trait that your character has, for instance Ralsei is said to be kind. Then make a good enough ellipse, for instance a gap between chapter releases. It could be shorter, but the important thing is you DO NOT REREAD how you character has been written before up to that point. Then, right when the ellipse is finished and new story arises, boom, character change. Now your kind character became an asshole overnight. Do it well enough and it'll be setup for future chapters. Your character is a bully but she doesn't bully the random girl that you haven't yet setup for being a major secret protagonist. Boom, that's setup for your character to actually be in love with her. Etc, etc.
>>742551659And their bond certainly didn't grow any weaker, maybe it even grew a tiny bit stronger because of their longing.
>>742553789In some rare occasions, Check actually does something. Even when the game calls it useless analysis. Example, using Check during Aqua's first fight counts as a 20% mercy action (as she also attempts to Check you).
>>742553765I know about the ferris wheel and it's exactly the kind of thing that enforces that idea. Those little hints. But nonetheless they're still only that, hence the tragedy I mentioned.
>>742553819Are you stupid? It's literally a comic based on a scene from the game.
>>742553480>>742553606i mean yeah the main reason why chapter 3 took so long was because he tried to add a shitty zelda minigame instead of just focusing on the core gameplay. for fucks sake we're 5 chapters in and we're only NOW getting teased with an actual new party member (its purely going to be used for bs story reasons). toby doesn't trust that fans will like his rpg being an actual rpg so he just does the bare minimum and shoves in a billion other gimmicks that leads to a indie pixel rpg taking a decade+ to complete
>>742553568You can have Noelle priortize you during the festivalChoose to have Kris as King and Noelle as Queen, then show her your vote, and then she will ride the ferris wheel with Kris
>>742553819
>>742553789It do be closer to Sticker Star and Origami King than of Thousand Year Door
>>742553681You think she's going to keep Kris around when she finds out that he's in cahoots with the knight AND it's not even him closing the fountains, it's the heart-shaped object he has
>>742553765Oh boy I can't wait to replay the entirety of chapter 5 on the off chance that it'll lead to Kriselle working out
>>742553763Last thursday theory got debunked by how caught off guard Ralsei was to learn there was history well before he came to being, Ralsei seemed to believe the roaring knight came into existence at the same time he did but that turned out to very much not be the case. Ralsei is aware of the future but the past he seems blind to. There was a world before the angel got into Kris. I am hoping Asriel isnt the knight, just would be lame.>>742553892>>742553920I was just riffing on it being monochrome my god
>>742553765>Ferris wheel scene gets hyped up since chapter 2>its just a black screen with characters talking over itOH FOR FUCKS SAKE TOBY
>>742553713I'll hear your non-woke suggestions
>>742553679>intentionally cruel to vent her frustrationsI wouldn't say it was cruel but she yelled at and made Ralsei cry after the fake Gerson fight
>>742553751>>742553763More like AsNOTriel ahahah
>>742553952You should know better than to joke about a ship
i actually like the gameplay. a lot. the variety you guys are complaining about as "gimmicks" is great and keeps things fresh.also, toby has to be the only game developer who actually plays his own game. every interaction is full of potential and secrets. like that check interaction >>742553853 the game is full of shit like that. like pushing all those statues off the edge. rewards for exploring everything or doing weird stuffit's so good at that it's basically unique, which is so much better than "being a good rpg" and sticking to a fucking formula. We can name 100 games that do that shit
>>742553894its still weird to me how 3 added a billion gimmicks (that were all abandoned). Then 4 added a nice climbing mechanic and 5 added a 2d platformer segment to the game. These later 2 additions are nice and I suspect the 2d platforming will stick for 6 and 7. But man, in hindsight Deltarune is a weird fucking game. What game just completely changes the game... 3x in a row?
>>742553938I played chapter 5 normal route blind and missed some stuff, like Ralsei's scarfI'm going to do this and play with a guideAnd then I'm going to do it again for my late aborted ch 5 weird playthrough
>>742553857>But nonetheless they're still only that, hence the tragedy I mentioned.It's clearly important, it trips a flag in the save file. So the fact that you rode the Ferris wheel with Noelle will affect something in the future.
I think it would be funny if Noelle can see our dialog options in chapter 7B. Like we read her mind, now she can read ours.
>>742554039Toby is an overambitious developer with too much money. We are the ones who fed his inner demon.
>>742553765It's really weird how Kris and Noelle have quite a few of these sorts of scenes that can just be given visuals with no change in dialogue, and they work perfectly well at being a clear romance story.But then you try to do the same with Noelle and Susie, and there's only maybe one that actually kind of works for the intended purpose (if you omit the depressed Kris in the background)
>people still getting filtered by the boards
>>742553969Small indie game
I cant wait for chapter 6. Reminder that any endings that ends on Krusie or Kriselle is vindication of 4chan self inserters and Hmofa by Toby. Suselle end game is vindication of majority of his normie and tumblr audience who support it. We must preprare to defend Tony when in his time of need to claim Deltarune as the chud media like Snoot game.
>>742554134We still don't have an explanation on why her mind specifically is so much easier to read than any other character, do we?
>>742553979Ace Combat 4OkamiArmored Core 6
>>742554217Because she says things in her head. We read the thoughts of other characters as well, but they don't often say much.
>>742554197Kriselle supporters broke the fucking gameYou can't be a bigger shot than that.>>742554134we'll see in 3 years... bleak
>>742554179>But then you try to do the same with Noelle and Susie, and there's only maybe one that actually kind of works for the intended purpose (if you omit the depressed Kris in the background)Yeah...
>>742554134>kris is plowing noelle>he's about to chun>dialogue box appears>pull out or finish inside>before you can choose the "pull out" option gets frozen
>>742554128Maybe. The game has a ton of flags that seemingly have no use. But I won't keep my hopes up and believe it when I see it.My point is that while they have the nice moments of the ballot and ferris wheel, they doesn't break them free, at least not yet.
>>742554197>Deltarune>chud mediaYou guys cannot be real
>>742554179Krisellle have scenes like this about their past. In present its Soul deciding between being cold or trying to cheer her up. Kris is much warmer toward Susie and Ralsei.
>>742554293Weird route
>>742554197He will vindicate Suselle. If he downplayed King menacing to kill his son, Toriel fucking with Sans, Berdly still calling Noelle in WR chapter 4, and many other things nobody asked him to clarify, he's not going to backtrack on Suselle.
>>742554312They are calling you guys weird....
>chapter 6>check lake>onion-san rises from the water>>Hi!!! The song is the one that Dess used to play here. I feel extra refreshed now that I've shed my old tentacles.>animation of onion-san wriggling his tentaclesYou rike?
>>742553827That's hack writing, you're excusing hack writing when Noelle is naturally nice over lending a fucking pen to Susie when previously nobody has shown an ounce of kindness towards her with the exception of Toriel(unless you wanna also claim she crushed on Toriel since she had been the first to do so?), the previous chapters haven't hinted shit from Susie's end when it had plenty of opportunities to play it out, including the times when Noelle had been shown it. It comes out of nowhere when you have previously estabilished reasons that just gets knocked out of the table. Claiming previously it had been set up is dishonest on how Susie reacted around her, it wasn't much different than Kris and Ralsei unless you want to claim these were also set-up on crushing also? They did also show kindness and changed her heart throughout the first chapter, being far more protective of both throughout the chapters as the story progresses. It's part of the reason people kept saying Susie is too friendshippilled to actually care about relationships and not just when it comes to Kris. Ralsei had way, way more hints of shit maybe happening between the two rather than the parachute that was Suselle.People are upset for a very good reason on it being played straight, it isn't just dislike, it's just how poorly written to the point Toby has to retcon stuff to give it support.
>>742554179The reason all the scenes are black is because Kris is closing his eyesOnce you complete the normal route, the sword route, the weird route, the jockington route, the weird route side c and the weird route side c side b THEN you'll be able to start a playthrough where you can see Kris's dialogue and see without his eyes
>>742541053>I kind of miss when my low effort game had even less effort There's beauty in you
>>742554312More like wet fart
>>742554257Krisellle and Krusiebros are allies and should never fight. If anything Kralsei is more of a woke gay option that only justify Suselle existing.
>>742554350If they chicken outta normalNPC butchering then damn
>>742554197I'm not self-inserting! I just want those two to be happy again. Kris life before THE INCIDENT was so good. It's no surprise that he cares so much about Noelle and tries to protect her. He associates her with the happiest moments of his life.
>Play chapter>Attack everything except funny guys>Get to castle town>Save edit as if i recruited everyone
>>742554352I wanna go back to when Susie was friendshippilled
This chapter was way too gay, man.
I think on all the videos people make of ch 6-7 having increasingly bizarre visuals hopefully so, we could use more omega flowey type fun times
>>742554346It's what I strive to be
>>742541816what if it turns out to be the good route
Susie is weird because in her room if you check the statue she act clueless about why would Noelle would have a statue of her it feels like there's 2 susie being written
>>742550987Like a Snoot girl. Probably somewhere between Trish and Rosa.
>>742547974nah its clearly just upped production values that now clash with the early chapters.
You guys bought into Kriselle, right?
>>742554258Seeing normies or even vtubers like Tenma support Suselle just shows how much brainrotted current generation is when all you have to do to see as romance is 2 characters just looking cute and standing next to eachother. No friendship bonds, no interactions, no heartfelt dialogues. This is the reason most romances is a slop on the level of Twilight and 50 shades of Grey. Even Amazing Digital Circus made Gummigoo just to kill him and end the show on yuri sloppa.
>>742554352What honestly bothers me that much about the new reasoning is that there's no good way to spin it, it makes Susie come out as a dishonest, fake cunt on how she treated Kris up until now
>>742554521>iflol
>>742554553>Suselle still lastTobysisters....
>>742554553[[Bigshot]]
>>742554553Kriselle is the entire reason I didn't drop Deltarune in chapter 2
>>742553508Ralsei is a Darkner but isn't bound to any average object. My theory is that as the prince of all Darkners he's simply powerful enough to survive any darkness and traverse through the Dark Fountains into other Dark Worlds (like FRIEND). Imagine the fountains as just holes poked into the darkness beneath the surface, and Ralsei can hop into them to fast travel.
Shipping is so fucking retarded and gay, shit only teenage girls do
>>742554559The dinner scene with Kris and Susie is now forever tainted even without the shipping aspect because if true, Susie lied even though they had such a good moment together and couldn't be honest
>>742554631We're all teenage girls here
>>742554352>it wasn't much different than Kris and Ralsei unless you want to claim these were also set-up on crushing alsoYes, Toby is unironically setting up shipping between (You) and the character named after his brother's RPG Maker character.>People are upset for a very good reason on it being played straight, it isn't just dislike, it's just how poorly written to the point Toby has to retcon stuff to give it supportIf you couldn't get where the romance was going from chapter 4 then it's on you I'm sorry to tell. The retcon about Susie's backstory is valid but a hardcore shipper could also tell you that if those feelings were embarassing then obviously Susie would try to hide them for something else at first.
>>742554293It might happen if subversion doesnt turn out to be false. All we need is Suselle being deconstructed and you will get the first wave of xitter and tumblr claiming Toby is a pedophile racist who uses queer baiting but pushed heteronormative pairings instead. Yeah they will ignore Kris is genderless and they will ignore CattixNoelle or Alphyne or BluexYellow as lgbt representation. They are all hypocrites as much deranged or more than average 4chan schizo
>>742554631This anon never yearned:https://youtu.be/S1LKngBaIW4
>>742554308>Kris is much warmer toward Susie and Ralsei.Yeah no shit. Kris deliberately distanced himself from Noelle to protect her. He doesn't want to involve her in anything related to the prophecy because her role could still change and she'll fucking die.
Is Susie stupid? Doesn't she realize that love refers to level of violence?
>>742554710He will just patch the game just like he did with the rape scene
>>742554776No, she hasn't played Undertale.
>>742547739when you check the flower shop way at the end you can find a "japanese anime comic" on his TV.
>>742554610I consider it a total victory despite the drowncope memes.>a straight ship so popular it broke the game>3 years of imagining whatever the fuck we want for 7B >Schizovisuals for 7B already around>Countless schizovisual predictions for 7B to come for yearsAnd this is assuming the worst case for 7B, which we already can be dismissed as a false timeline by then. It'll be too little too late.
>>742554316All those things were based and made sense. Chaos King isnt a bad dude just because he calls himself like this. He cares about his son and people and see lightners as bullies who will sacrifice his people for their sake. Toriel never meant to be seen as fucking sans, its a ntr coomer brain schizoids making this up like Kris raping Noelle. Asgore and Toriel are written as meant to reconnect like a normal christian couple after a fight. There is nothing wrong with any Toby plotline beside Suselle
>>742554853>Even the defense force wont touch suselledamn
I saw some people talk about how there is possible indication that there will be different ways to play the game implied by side b how we'll need to play in a different order or how there might be a ng+ timeloop time dealios but I lost the thread before saving those posts.It was a bunch of text wall theory dumps by a bunch of anons discussing it with diagrams.Anyone has any of it saved?
>>742554710>They are all hypocrites as much deranged [if not] more than average 4chan schizoWe stopped being the bigger schizos long ago, probably around 2018 since Trump's first election mindbroke them
>>742554556I think it's just herd mentality. They look at their chat, where most of the dimwits support this shit. So they start getting swept up in the tide, so to speak, and just go with the flow. They are unable to think outside the box and look deeper.
>>742554191i adore the zelda sections and getting ranked for the pippins and shadowmen fights but the mini games are ehhh
>>742554853>making this up like Kris raping Noelle.Anon learns the basic concept of allegory.No, Kris did not literally rape Noelle.Yes, the scene is deliberately evocative of rape as it's about plundering the innocence and suborning the volition of a young woman.
>>742554895Is that why half of the posters on this site support jews and israel?
>>742551196asgore also said that something is off about his look.
>>742554748I think this is what the "You promised" thing was about.The plan was to sacrifice Susie, but no one could have predicted how close the two of them would have gotten over the course of their adventures.I think Kris only started distancing himself from Noelle after he got the soul, and stopped being in control of his actions all the time. He'd try to confess his feelings, and instead be forced to say "bangin' Antlers. You grow them yourself?" instead. Or worse, he'd try to actually connect with her, and the Soul will take over and do a better job. Imagine getting your first kiss with your girlfriend stolen by someone else puppeteering your own body.One good conversation, and I think most of the distance between Noelle and Kris can be resolved and reconciled, especially once she sees the truth of what's been happening to him, and likely how it relates to Dess's disappearance.
>>742554553>You guys bought into Kriselle, right?Since Chapter 2
>be kris>get possessed in insane plan to fix your life>it doesn't work>you're dying slowly, the world is doomed and your loved ones treat you as an afterthought>take it out on a magic heart because you're still a pussy
>>742554776Gerson said to reinterpret the story. In good ending it will mean love toward Kris
>>742541816Based
>>742554841>Kriselle >straight shiplol, lmao.
>>742555007>magic heart keeps trying to be your friend>or in another time, you're terrified at the magic heart because of what it did to your childhood friends
Should I just ship Ch5 and wait until the next one? I feel like it's not going to be substantive enough and I'd be better waiting to play 5-6 at once then 7 on its own which you just know will be substantive
>>742551363>>742551456>>742551526it just makes me really sad to think about it>jevil was a genuinely tougher fight where there was more strategy to both acting and sparing, even fighting still required acting, and there was a good reward for both>normal route spamton was a bit one dimensional depending on which one you picked, but both options were there. meanwhile solo spamton neo was literally the apex bossfight of the game even if it was a straightforward fight>double slash doesnt carry over to chapter 3 sadly, knight is a cool fight but just a rude buster simulator>tenna and queen are kino in their own rightdownfall starts here>titan is just such a huge letdown compared to how much titans were hyped up, he jobs instantly in an easy fight>gerson is awesome in his own right meant to be like a "simpler" more predictable easier superboss fight and theres only sparing, but that falls off when you add the fact the next one exists>pink is outright a meme-tier character with zero real buildup and seemingly zero relevance to the plot>the chapter goes even harder into FIGHTing being a non-option that doesnt interact with acting and sparing whatsoever>flowery is an actual kino battle but it outright makes FIGHTing not even be a real button you can press
>>742554990>I think Kris only started distancing himself from Noelle after he got the soul, and stopped being in control of his actions all the timeProbably. Kris clearly doesn't want us to know about his past or current relationship with Noelle.
>>742547974We're not doing this "everything is intentional gimmick". Let me know when they reveal that Gaster intentionally deleted your files when the Deltarune demo came out when you tried using the install shortcut it came with and it wasn't just Toby fucking up
https://youtu.be/Xko4mkswZUM?is=8BFn06ZMFODd9xrj
>>742555107Just play it now. You'll feel like shit when chapter 6 comes out and you have to slog through chapter 5 to get to it first.
>>742555030>Kriselle>straight shipYeah?
>>742555030>742555030Straight by deltarune standards.
>>742555135To be fair, once I learned about their past, I started trying to force them together in every scenario the game let me.Before that, I missed most of her optional dialogue after chapter 1, and thought she was just like any other classmate.
Krisellebros we WON! Believe in CHEESE! https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1r54509/knowing_the_mouse_might_one_day_get_the_cheese_a/https://x.com/Gravy141/status/2071670901020488094
>>742551456As part of learning to come to terms with her transfem identity, Kris must renounce on aggressivity, which is a part of masculinity left in her. This happens circa Chapter 4-5, which explains why her and her groomer friends suddenly refuse you to Fight.
Even if Kris is a girl or an amorphous goner creature, the soul is still a man. So Kriselle is always straight.
>>742555030Nobody aside from a handful of schizos considers Kirs anything but male. Every single thing about him screams "moody teenage boy."
>The femKris schizo has woken up.
>>742555308What about the women that play Deltarune and do the Weird Route.
>>742555308>the soul is still a manThat's how Toby grooms you
>>742555308I don't see a world where Kris and Asriel share a room if Kris is a girlEspecially when they're teenagers Boys sharing a room is normal, a sister/brother is not.
>>742555363They should have sex with me
>>742555363They self-insert as Noelle, hard.
>>742555363To them Kriselle is always gay.
The guiltart the doe deranged do is comedy
>>742555363By the way, any VTuber who actually played the Weird Route?
>>742555121I wish we got more 1 on 1 weird route fights like Spamton NEO, SOUL vs Flowery would've been amazing
Godzillabros we're so fucking back
>>742555361I hate this faggot, he's constantly spamming his stupid fetish.
>>742555401Spamton G. Spamton...
>>742555508STILL THE BEST199X
>>742555179Damn is it that bad?
>>742554990Isn't it implied that Kris and Noelle had been fairly distant for a while?
>>742555121You can really see the balance in Fighting and Acting fall off in realtime>Chapter 1 lets you fight and spare as much as you want>Secret boss shows the potential of the battle system by having ACTs actually add strategy to fighting>Chapter 2 adds consequences to both fighting and spareing>Adds more options for ACTing through other party members>The ACTs don't add any strategy beyond adding gimmicks on top of the SOUL mode>Final boss can be spared faster by combining FIGHTing with ACTing in specific ways (attacking the shield, throwing at Berdly) but otherwise lacks depth>Final form says you can only win by fighting, but most people just ACT their way through while counterpunching>Chapter 3 is 90% non-standard gameplay>Fighting is actively discouraged by now>Except for The Knight, where Fighting is the only option>Chapter 4 goes back to form>Except the final boss forces you to Fight>Secret boss technically has a win condition where you need to keep fighting to impress Gerson (Rude Buster ping pong was kino) but ultimately no damage is dealt>Chapter 5 >Final Boss can only be defeated by ACTing>Secret Boss can only be defeated by ACTing>Several minibosses can be ended through FIGHTing but you don't actually kill themIt really feels like Toby was trying to push people towards not being afraid to fight, only to backpedal right in the latest chapter.
>>742554669>Yes, Toby is unironically setting up shipping between (You) and the character named after his brother's RPG Maker character.Huh??? Where'd you even get that from? All I'm saying that both Kris and Ralsei has proper set up and development to back it up on progressing into a blooming relationship rather than the rushed and hamfisted Suselle where you just have to accept Susie suffered a lobotomy and completely forgot about the previous chapters thanks to a sudden whim after experiencing Chapter 4, including the prophecy where she was taking it very seriously to pry away from, not lean in so forcefully.Sure, let's ignore all the setting up from Chapter 3 about the festival including Susie being butthurt about not being able to bring in Ralsei to the point the entire chapter was dedicated on fun time adventure to distract from that and all the teasing about who is going to the festival with who as if the choice mattered.This coming from someone that likes Ralsus here but, Susie has way, WAY more scenes where she shows a more apparent reaction when Kris is more forward to her than what happened with Suselle, it's no wonder so many people felt disappointed because people expected the jealousy part to be played with either Asgore or Kris/Susie/Noelle on how it'd be handled, with less focus on Suselle happening despite how shitty it was handled during the Holiday section because aside Suselle shippers, nobody expected it to be played straight when it was so shoddily written in comparison to any other possible relationship. There's seriously no excuse on how Suselle was handled so shittily to the point people found the 20 minutes of WR to be the most romantic shit within the game even when Toby hit the brakes on showing what happens next until Chapter 7.People aren't coping about the complete lack of chemistry, Suselle is water and oil.
>>742555558I liked it but some parts are really tedious, especially if you want all of the secret boss rewards.
>>742555286Honestly, it's crazy how much sense this theory makes. You can hardly even call it a theory. It's more like a list of facts.
>>742555508Is the secret to being called a genius just copying a lot of other media?
>>742555286I believe it
>>742555558Nah its the best chapter IMO gameplay wise, its just really denseEvery other chapter is like 3-4 hours long, this one is 5-6+ if you do everything.
Kris and Dess being biological siblings would be the best possible outcome
>>742555578As much as I want to believe that Kris didn't have the soul until the moment Chapter 1 started, all evidence points to the contrary.
>>742555595Make me a tl;dr man I can't keep up.You just insist that Suselle wasn't set up for some reason. I'm not going to humor you anymore just replay the game.
>>742555237I'd try to give as little information as possible to the demon that possesses my body. Better to be safe than sorry.
>>742555558nta but i think everyone's opinions of 5 has been so varied it's hard to know how you'll feel about it until you've actually finished ityou really just have to take the gambleit's a bit longer than the other chapters but the gameplay is a lot more interesting
>>742555579>>Several minibosses can be ended through FIGHTing but you don't actually kill themuhh I dont think I used attack once on purpose in chapter 5.
>>742555802So you do know I'm here.Interesting.
>>742552752Every time I see one of these group flower pics I feel like someone is missing until I realize and find orange
>>742555595no need for relationship pretense to play with goat he just lets you
>>742555579>It really feels like Toby was trying to push people towards not being afraid to fight, only to backpedal right in the latest chapter.I think the reason for this was to avoid people trying to spare things like the Titan and the Knight, but other than that he's still fully focused on ACTing. Deltarune isn't the middle road between the full pacifist of Undertale and full on fighting, it's basically almost the same path as Undertale but with a few more obligatory fights compared to singular one Undertale had.
>>742555839Get the hell out of my head, Light. You lost like a bitch at the end.
>>742555797I accept your concession.tl;Dr eat a dick Suselle shitter
>>742555892>t.
it was already over with the first ferris wheel event.
bird
What a bitch.
>>742556006Yes. That's an act of niceness to you anyway. Shipping is one thing but taking it so seriously that you deny reality to the point of setting yourself up to disappointment is retarded.
>>742554954Delusion and your own projection
>>742555992I paid $25 for access to your head. I'm reading all the dialogue options. Suck it up buttercup.
>>742553613Can't you look in the archive?
>>742556184It's okay anon you'll learn about allegories in 10th grade
>Deltarune fans after chapter 5
I've been stuck for like 30 minutes where am I supposed to go after getting the watering can?
>people think bat and antlers means a nobody character never met once>people obsess over literal paint.jpg >people don't understand allegoriesWhy does this game attract so many low IQ?
>>742556496You're supposed to follow where flowery went retardbro
>>742551383That's why I intend to write a story where I fuck Kris straight.
>>742556524I wasn't paying attention and now a fox stole my watering can
>>742556090Nta but your arguments are just flawed and you're utterly biased at this point. It's not forbidden but try not to claim something is the 'truth' when it's actually your own feelings.
>>742556680You bricked your save you fucking retard
>>742555595I hate this fag shit but there is no doubt with intention behind it in chapter 2 boat scene and chapter 5 bath scene
Green is Gaster
https://youtu.be/sxXl0nFhLUkWould you accept Gaster looking like early CGI?
>>742556798gaster will be a live action toby fox rotoscoped
What will Carol look like in the dark world?
>>742556715Ignoring how you and I feel the only two ships that have some level of substance at this point of the game are (You)elle and Suselle. Krusiefags are delusional.
I feel bad for both Kriselle and Krusie fagsKriselle is completely one way. All the "hints" are about Noelle's feelings for him.Krusie is completely one way. All the "hints" are bout Kris' feelings for her.Both are doomed to sink
>>742556609ZAMN
blessed
>>742556835It has already been shown.
>>742556910>doomed to sinkYeah and?
>>742556868That nigga wasn't even a KrusiefagLet me guess, you're that nignog that seethes about HMOAF while bashing about the evil self-inserters?
>>742556910>he says that when Suselle is the one doomed even through the prophecy standpointlol
they are feminizing kristhey are femininizing ralseithey are feminizing susieeven noelle
>>742556910>doomed to sinkThat's the endgame right there.
>>742556981I have no clue what you are talking about. Yep, definitely terminally online and delusional.
>>742556868>Krusiefags are delusional.You're really telling people to replay the game while making claims like that.Whether it's 'romantic' or not is beside the point. Chapters are clearly structured to build an intimate connection between Kris and Susie (Which is natural when there are barely any major characters traveling with the player). The game pushes that dynamic on its own. You don't need to pick specific dialogue options or trigger some obscure hidden event for it to happen.What people have been criticizing since the chapter dropped is how Susie's characterization suddenly swings into exaggerated, borderline absurd territory, to the point where it actively hurts both the story and how you look back at the relationships between the characters. She feels completely disconnected from the development she had before, whether it's with Kris, Noelle, or even Ralsei.This isn't even about "shipping," despite you acting like that's the core of the discussion. Grow out of that shit.Since you can't be bothered to make an actual argument, I'll do the same and just tell you to go read the thread archives. Plenty of arguments and discussion have already been laid out there, shitposts included.
>>742556910Factualy wrong. Kriselle is both thinking other hate the other one. Krusie is Susie being complete oblivious and Kris being blackpilled and also cucking himself protecting Noelle
>>742557138>Since you can't be bothered to make an actual argument, I'll do the same and just tell you to go read the thread archives. Plenty of arguments and discussion have already been laid out there, shitposts included.Sounds convenient. I've seen other posters be more convincing when they wanted to make their point.
>>742557138I don't know why you're being reasonable with a ship nigger. He's just going to seethe without regard for logic at anything that isn't kriselle
Game literally feels like Stein gate with Kris and Noelle as Mc and Mayuri, Krusie Kurisu, Kralsei is Luca, Mad Mewmew as Faris and Daru as Berdly. It even has same premise of defying fate.
>>742556910Wrong. Kris and Noelle will have a happy ending. You'll see.
>>742557276>MUH Stein gateKill yourself
>>742557227> "uhhh make me a tl;dr actually"> "uhhh yeah I'll go look for other opinions because everyone here is fucking clueless"If you're incapable of having an actual discussion and would rather just declare yourself right, then you're either some fucking edgy kid trying to act like a know-it-all, or a terminally online loser with zero social skills.Either way, fuck off, you low-IQ moron. Go waste someone else's time, because every /v/ thread on this topic is just gonna clown on you.And since anything longer than two lines seems to overload your brain: kill yourself.
>>742557339normal npc probably beak speared that fucker right out of the water like a heron
>>742557339You Kriselle niggers remind me of Dess Knight fags last chapter. Most insecure people on the planet
