Kris dreemurr is the most miserable character in all of videogames
doesnt look it
>>742679162Why was she such a pushy little girl?
>>742679162
https://youtu.be/h9e41yg55JY
>>742679162Uh? What's that Susie? You want to BUILD a ROOM for my childhood friend Noelle? And you want ME to do It? Wait, you want to JOIN her room to YOURS? So you can have MIND-BLOWING LESBIAN SEX every single night? Yikes, Susie, that's...what's that? You want me to WATCH? I NEED to be there every single night so I can Fetch you WATER? I HAVE to sit in the corner like a good KEK eating MOSS while you eat my childhood bestie's deer pussy? Wait, you want me to RECORD It too?? I have to put my DRUNK SLUT MOTHER on silence so I can record you with my shitty Android phone she bought me after buying and iPhone to Asriel??? And I can WATCH them and let my ELDRITCH HORROR FROM THE GREAT BEYOND HEART force me to JERK OFF my dick to them when I'm ALONE in my room after helping the ROARING KNIGHT kidnap my DEADBEAT LOSER DAD?? Susie...I say PROCEED! YABBA DABBA DOO!
>>742679162When will you guys understand that all this suffering and cucking is necessary for Kris to become the very character he was based from: Oersted?
>>742679162>>742679235>>742679321shabbat shalom, i'm a masonic jew and undertale, mixtape and expedition 33 are my favorite games
>>742679651When will Kris become Odio?
>>742679321thats how girls are sometimes
>>742679883As he genuinely cares for his friends and they can't die for gameplay reasons, when he starts to hate them. Chapter 5 has him already on a boiling point with all the cucking.
>>742679651It better happen next chapter
Why didn't Ralsei just Fireshock the Titan?
>>742679540kbc
>>742679235He didn't just get pie did he? What the fuck did that shit do between chapter 1 and 2?
>>742679768>LLM jeetbot
>>742679162The real good ending
>>742680107Because it would be a waste of TP
>>742679162>eats too much sugar>doesn't groom properly>irresponsible>mistreats his childhood friend who really likes himthe dark worlds and the shady knight deals are the least of this little shit's problems. I will fix him
>>742679162Please include "deltarune" somewhere in the OP of your general thread next time.
>>742680107Why he didn't fireshock Flower Man either ? I guess to prove a point, the titan was a genuine "kill or the world is doomed!" And he genuinely HATED Flower Man yet he didn't use fire.
>>742679321It is a monster girls duty to please human men.All monsters know this instinctually but as they grow their older the super ego takes stronger hold so it stops them from forcing themselves onto any human they see in an inappropriate manner
>>742679162What the fuck is this nigga's plan? He's miserable at the end of 5 and wakes up in a puddle of tears and drags his feet throughout the 10 minutes of weird route, what promise is that important?
>>742679162Picked every Suselle option there was because fuck this faggotConstantly treats me like shit but expects me to feel bad for themI didn't ask to be in this cocksucker's body
>>742680286at start of chapter 5's normal route kris is like grey when it starts til the soul gets put in and is restored to normal yellow colori think kris dies without us now, goes full goner
>>742679540Suselle fags coping like Noelle isn't the most cuckable character in fiction
Did it to himself award
>>742680107Prophecy said they'd beat it, and they did before things got completely hopeless
>>742679162>hasn't showered since probably before chapter 1 even startedI bet Kris smells real fucking funky.
>>742680170GATA SEXO
>>742680376the shampoo is going down from chapter to chapter, Kris is probably letting us go to bed, then he rips us out in the cage and probably goes to shower then
>>742680376so that's why noelle went more apeshit than usual in ch5 WR
>>742680252There's a conversation where Ralsei tells Flowery he could incinerate him effortlessly, and Flowery agrees, but he knows Ralsei won't because he's a huge pussy who's too scared to throw things off track
>Flower Man has overtaken Mew Mew Magic on YouTube viewsKNEEL
>>742680420Nah Susie's definitely eating it
>>742680461Human sexo
>>742680464Makes sense, the only better boss theme in the game is [BIG SHOT]
>>742680107unironically still playing along and holding power level. ralsei let gerson take over.another big point towards titans being red herrings, since ralsei also suddenly says that they're something something fear avatars and nothing else really world dooming, there's more to double fountains and the real end of the world that ralsei speaks about.
>>742679162>beautiful sweet and rich childhood friend next door>big strong tomboy with a heart of gold>ideal fantasy fluffy twink who exists for your pleasureSome men die of thirst while others drown
Darkner Sex rankingAqua > Seth > Green > mantis lady > foxes
>>742679162How easy would it be for Asriel pretend to still be in college, while he's actually in town, secretly looking for Dess as the knight? I know the internet is out, probably thanks to Carol, in an attempt to isolate the town, but they all have phones...
>>742680107>>742680252ralsei is the final boss and knows he is the final boss, and has absolutely absurd final boss level stats. he could shitfuck the knight solo if he really wanted to.
>>742680464It's been consistently ahead for a few days now
>>742680592The trouple ending is the only way this shit shakes out ok
>>742680464Flower's blooms in your heart
>>742680107He got Weird Routed in a previous timeline and is trying to avoid this now, but all that's done is made things even worse with Noelle as our current choice in his place
>>742680379sex with angry ghost femcel
>>742680464>>742680698Mew Mew's views are split over a bunch of lyric translation videos.
>>742680604asriel and dess are never going to show up in deltarune. they escaped gaster influence and the prophecy has no influence over them
HEIL GASTER
>>742680736Why not both?
>>742680286Setting up Susie as the Girl in the Prophesy rather than Noelle. He hype Susie up as a the Main character while pushing Noelle away to prevent the Noelle from being sacrifice in the Prophesy. This backfire hard when Susie decided to ask Noelle to join the team.
>>742680714>All their phones in a pile togetherSomething about that is incredibly cute.
>>742680592>>742680714>cuckshitKys
>>742680729>N-no it can't be...>It's just one Floradinn how is it so powerful?!
>>742680604>secretly looking for Dess as the knight?When have you seen The Knight looking for Dess?When have you seen The Knight looking for anyone?In 2/3 Dark World appearances so far all they've done is show up to kidnap people. They didn't even bother looking in the first two.
>Susie, my father just died, and now you're giving me a tour of the school closet? Why are you doing this to me?
>>742680628>tfw the "prophecy" ralsei knows of is the game's story script and he knows he's the endboss>true to his gay goat self from undertale he just wants (you) to enjoy the fucking game so he is making sure everything goes along fine until the final boss>his "twist" is that he's trying to be a good host type of character but is fumbling along because he's a gay insecure goatwe still don't really speaks to us "outside" the game because ralsei obviously interact with (you) from a lower POV
>>742680743Flower Man's views are split over various vocal covers
>>742679420>Kris crying during the >Proceed sectionI don't buy it, Kris is more complicated than thatStoike, evenThe chapter 3 boss even says as much that part of Kris enjoyed making fried chickenI think Kris is "unwilling" and scared for Noelle more than crying sad
>>742680809How on earth is it cuckshit if they're both pregnant with your kids?
>>742680592no no no no let me address this bullshit sayingM O S T men die of thirst while some drownThis world is garbage
>>742680809>cuck?
>>742680729fuck the weird route. where's the floradinn's hot gamer gf route? the knight is right there!
>>742680836>Noelle just trust me>Here, look it's Lancer, remember him?>*Shows her a dusty card*
>>742680768yeah sure. after all pink is a package deal but mewmew is a bit too retarded for my liking. darkners don't really have agency
>>742680836>Kris closes the closet fountain, as a prank
>>742680836Chapter 6 is going be like an oil tanker hitting a dynamite factory with had badly shit is set-up to explode
ENTER
I saw someone earlier say Kralsei is more forced than Suselle and I realized that I agree.
>>742680963>mewmew is a bit too retardedShe might be more anime but she's actually more emotionally mature and responsible than Maddie
>>742680880>>742680897Because that purple, dim-witted bitch will dominate you both. They won't be able to have a normal relationship. Kris will always be the third wheel in their group.
>>742680875kris is scared about noelle because he knows noelle is much, much worse than him. once the SOUL manages to get inside noelle we'll find out how badly we fucked up by enabling her.
sex with humans
>>742680107Then (You) would be able to access the spell at any time from there on, and it's presumably lethal or atleast does enough harm to prevent running away
>>742680834I understand. When that dumbass resort to saying Jax is Trans after getting heavy pressure for her shitty writing, its the end. The whole Transphobic shield. And now we have to deal with this shit with Ralsei with the they/them and Blue. Blue is obviously a DEI insert from a DEI writer, but point anything out would just lead to LOL YOU'RE RACIST GET BANNED.
>Want Rudy's death to be handled as well as Gerson's was in relation to Alvin>But it will inevitably get derailed with Noelle schizing out and Susie being delusional
>>742679162I made his dreams come true in the WRHe didnt cut it off fully. He wanted it on some level.Kris knows full well the roaring cant be stopped.Out of bounds is the only hail mary left.
>>742681047>Eats sand
reminder to exorcise your dolls
>>742680963It's fair that mewmew is retarded, but what do you mean darkners don't have agency? They can observe choices and make a decision just like lightners.>>742681047She really is like Akko the more I think about it.
>>742680604Asriel is the type of guy to confess to sins to a priest that doesn't believe in the concept of sin, he's not lying about going to college to his mom
>>742680835>When have you seen The Knight looking for Dess?seems to be the main motive for most of the events taking place in the story, even if we have not literally gotten a scene where the characters say out loud they are looking for Dess. Asgore thinks she got kidnapped into a dark world, the holidays think she dissapeared/ran away; its safe to assume why the knight and his allies are opening dark worlds now to be related to finding out what really happened to Dess all that time ago.
>>742681021>Make him like Bejita>Also make him job horribly to NoelleToby truly carrying that Japanese spirit
For those who aren't yet convinced that Kriselle will win, I suggest taking a look at the "Cheese Theory". To fully understand just how deeply Kris is in love with this dorky doe.
>Literally nothing was answered in CH5>It's just vagueposting and additional mystery boxesWould it kill them to reveal literally anything?
>>742681049That's why you need to make Noelle stronger first.
>>742680604Asriel's car got jammed by the Evil Gaster Simulation Bubble surrounding Hometown, thats why nobody has internet or mail there
>>742681095It's just her pre-programmed voice lines. Pay attention to what she actually says in-game.
Its nice hearing Kris playing piano in ch4. Its not flawless either which adds to the charm
>>742681126Another version made by an anon
>haha aborted weird route is the true ending bros! It'll be the most happy path for everyoneYeah man. We only had to brutally murder everyone in chapter 2 to start it. Happy ending for everyone but those darkners....
>noelle's reaction to susie showing her the dark world is gonna be shit like "Fahaha, I knew that was too good to be a dream! How amazing!">rudy's gonna be totally fine lol>susie and noelle are gonna make out on camera like there's nothing urgent going on>undyne and now asgore continue to remain getting buttfucked in the shelter by gasterlingsPlace your bets how badly they're gonna fuck this up.
>>742681135the entire battle menu was confirmed to be diagetic and almost every single knight theory was slaughtered, just because you didn't fight friend doesn't mean nothing happened. pay attention.
kris is now called dill doelollllll
>>742679162What about the dude from taimanin that got turned into an eternally suffering meatball?
I need to resort my deltarune folder. How are the rest of you doing it? I was trying to stick to strictly character folders, but there's enough set pieces people are drawing that I probably need something different than what I've done for every other game.
>>742681126This schizobabble is nonsensical
>>742680963>darkners don't really have agency
>>742681104He isn't lying about going to college, he just didn't tell anyone outside Carol and Kris he's already in town. The question is how easy would it be for Toriel to just call his campus, if the internet is out, to check on him.
>>742681049Kris has a penis, dummyEven Susie can't beat the cock
>>742681193NEVERABORT
>>742681145Or just slay the dragon and let Kris live peacefully in a wonderful relationship with the girl he grew up with?
>>742681242you think susie doesnt have a penis ?
>>742680835The knight runs on justice
>>742681193Making the mother of all omelettes here
>>742681126>>742681180I can't help but feel like this is all setup for maximum gutpunch heartbreak
>>742681237ruckus ralsei too stupid to realize their contradictionstheir rapidly incoming existential crisis will be comedy to watch
>>742680464He got Teto herself to sing ithttps://youtu.be/IsaVLrmJ6Nk?si=GFAhdoYlMPXLXJDnAnd yes, that is Teto, with some tweaks you can make her and Miku sing in actual English.
>>742681232Elaborate. Everything in this theory is a fucking fact.
>>742681347Pink and blue are ralsei's colors
So all Ralsei have to do is change gender to end this prophecyIt cant be that easy
>>742680107Because he knew it'd be futile. He's not strong enough to oneshot it, and after a few rounds it'd just go into regen mode and the gang would still Need A Hand!? anyway, but now Susie feels powerless all over again because Ralsei's popping off with crazy fire magic while her Rude Busters are comparatively mediocre.
>>742681363Ralsei isn't blue
>>742681347some people won't understandit can't be helped
>>742681401Nobody can actually change their gender.
THE CHEESE THEORY
>>742681193For all of the Twisted Sword Route theories I don't think I've ever seen someone wax symbolism on the meaning behind icing Tasques, Virovirokuns, Ambyu-Lances, and Maus specifically
>>742681112>the holidays think she dissapearedCarol clearly knows about the Dark World. It's even possible that Rudy does, if Carol was taking Asgore's claims seriously.If they know Dess disappeared into a Dark World, why would they not just be searching where they know she disappeared? Why make fountains all over town, endangering people and not even entering some of them?Why have powerful authority figures like Undyne and Asgore kidnapped? If you have a noble goal like searching for a lost girl, why not just ask for help?
>>742681193Gerson is kinda an asshole when you think of it like this.
>>742681237ralsei isn't even a darkner. fuck him. darkners are supposed to serve lightners in a very literal sense.
>>742681193I don't want it to be a happy ending.
>>742681238Probably hard considering the light world is based on America, there's laws that dont let them disclose any of that
>>742681447i love lcd
>>742680170this is fucking peak
>>742681036I said thatI think it's a very strange and poorly integrated piece of the story so far because Kris is so milquetoast over it, it does not seem to bounce off Kris' character in any significant way and Kris does not reciprocate nor rejects it in any expressive manner. It's also grossly inconsequential. I have no idea what Toby is trying to do with these Kralsei scenes. If the point was to say Ralsei is very loyal to Kris that could have been done without romantic implications.
>>742680529I love It's TV time myself. Particularly the bit between 1:14 and 1:54, wish there was a version that extended that section and made it even more intense.Tenna's gotta be one of my favorite boss battles in the game for how chaotic it is.
>>742681437
We will have four party members to fight and explore with in Chapter 6 and beyond. Pretty obvious if you think for more than a second.
>>742681541That's Kris' colors. Ralsei picked it because he wants to slurp Kris.
>>742681363Do people jokingly call Ralsei a dog, too?
>>742679162The perception of the retarded part of the fanbase outside of chans are just so stupid about everything related to Kris I don't know why. Its all drooling idiots fucking screaming at everyone not using they to refer to him while also having the stupidest fucking takes imaginable like the soul being the evil one in deltarune by taking control of Kris without his consent. Motherfucker without the soul none of the good things in DR would have happened and the bad things would just be worse since Kris would probably be dead, if anything Kris is literally the fucking antagonist in every route by allowing everything to happen despite being able to rip the soul out whenever he wants to
Who would be better at sucking dick, Ralsei, Noelle, or Susie?
>>742680963What about King? Granted, his motivations are still based around Lightner's but even now he's like the only dude who hates them
>>742681193>>742681462Darkners aren't real.
>>742681242Me and susie have so much in commonWe like deerrflipping coins on front or back gets annoying doe
>>742681363>>742681541Ralsei doesn't have a single blue thing in his color scheme, you retard.
The Twisted Route ends in you killing everyone in Hometown and then killing Ralsei in the sjelter while Megalovania plays It's not a happy ending
>>742681679Ralsei.
>>742681679Ralsie because whatever he's got going on means he has the benefit of eternal trial and error.
>>742681632having noelle and ralsei is superfluous. the fire mage leaves the party before ice palace glaceir.
>>742681632Why wouldn't Susie, who already has a track record of overwriting game mechanics vis a vis S-Act and R-Act, do the same to place Noelle in the battle party? Easy to see it happening as an early gag, Ralsei insists one of them must step out of the battle, only three can fight in battles! Perhaps he'll timidly suggest he'll leave to make room for Noelle, only for Susie to question why they'd do something so silly when they can just all fight? Force the four person party using her game warping powers. Makes character sense for all involved, Susie's already forcing Noelle into Castle Town, it's a classic Deltarune Fourth Wall leaning bit, and it's another expansion of game mechanics in a game that shakes things up every chapter. Will need to be offset by a corresponding spike in difficulty to compensate with the greater number of turns, TP raising, HP, access to items, etc.
>>742681539I'd put It's TV Time in a solid 3rd. Definitely.
>>742681704They're not real, but that doesn't mean that they don't have any agency.
>>742679768don't lump e33 in with this slop it doesn't deserve it
>>742681463>disappeared into *A* Dark WorldYeah it's in one of them, which they probably don't know, explaining why they are making so many of them and in locations where she used to hang out with Asriel as kids (School, Library, Dremurr residence).>Why have powerful authority figures like Undyne and Asgore kidnapped? If you have a noble goal like searching for a lost girl, why not just ask for help?No goddam clue, my assumption is that either Asgore wouldn't get it and stand in the way trying to parade the knight's corpse or watever. Undyne would just see dark worlds/knight and try to arrest eveyone (not the brightest match in the box).
>>742681724too edgy. doesn't sell merch
>>742681462>TasquesNoelle kills FRIEND>VirovirokunNoelle kills Rudy>Ambyu-LancesNoelle kills the hospital's doctor just because???>MausNoelle kills Kris
>>742681724WR shouldnt have us even be in hometownbut ralsei probably not going to be happy with usI think we might learn some horrible truth about dess that we will regret learning, however
Wtf Kris
>>742681679C'mon, we all the answer to that one...
>>742681737Scythemare and SleepMist is absolutely superfluous and I've been trying to figure out what the point was of giving us that right before getting Noelle back
>>742681193Even Berdly wasn't totally murked by snowgrave. If it really is the "Best route" they'll probably have it that they're just suspended and need dethawed with Ralsei's fire magic.
>>742680464thought the gap would be a bit more severe like TV Time and Black Knife
>>742680529>>742681539>>742681754>they forgot the absolute kino of Chaos King when chapter 1 first droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPwzoZ-e664
>>742680461that guy's still around? or is that just a copycat?
>>742681193Some darkners are more equal than others.
>>742681679who do you think invented the term throat goat?
>>742681312The mouse managed to reach the cheese at the end of Undertale. Have faith.
>>742681679Ralsei would have extensive practice because he'd think it's what the lightners want, because he's a freak that way. Susie would bite.
Why does /v/ think there was no dialogue option for (You) in the weird route when Susie asks what Noelle and I “talked” about in private in chapter 4?
>>742681868What I remember was Jevil and his theme overshadowing King in every way.
knight being abusive exploitative dick to kris is a funny idea hope it is true just let the knight be a fucking asshole it's like they bust up TVs and destroy priceless flowers to win a fight in the dark world anyways.
>>742681193No aborted weird route is the worst ending where you get full control of Kris and genocide all the people of Hometown
>>742679162This is how I think the story will play out (from now on)>Susie invites Noelle to the Fun Gang (Kris and Ralsei are secretely against this for different reasons)>Noelle tries to be a helpful team member at first but she gets called and stopped by her mother and dad's illness>Noelle's busy life and mind cannot keep up with the Dark Worlds Adventures>So she gives up. >Susie takes this as a betrayal (of duty and of romantic kind) against her>Susie (now in a hurt state) turns back to Kris...>...Only to find out Kris is in a truce with the fucking Roaring Knight behind her back.>Susie crashes out.
>>742681679unironically susiethe portrait doesn't show it very often but ch5 confirmed she has pretty prominent lips, kris can tease her about it if you check the kris and susie hedges right at the start of the dark world
>>742681906Game breaking, you have nothing you can actually say.It also changes the lighting/it stops raining. Trying to "wake up" Susie might cause something catastrophic and reality started breaking in that moment.
>>742681193What do you mean? We didn't murder any darknersThey are programs that froze up, you can restart them and it's fixed!>>742681208It's insane how chill Susie was in this chapter when A KIDNAP HAD ALREADY HAPPENED AND A TITAN WAS SUMMONED
>>742681906The dialog boxes always appear in response to prompts, moments when Kris wants to talk, and show options that would occur to Kris.That dialogue box showed that Kris badly wanted to speak, but just as badly didn't want to say anything.
I have to say that I think "Sans is originally from Deltarune and then goes to Undertale" is really a red herring.There's just too much stuff about Sans that shows he is weird and also not an innocent bystander. He knows about the Weird Route, he showed up in Hometown out of nowhere, he can teleport, he operates half of the Festival, nobody can remember who operated the ride or who lived in his house before him, he stops Toriel from going into the church the day after she almost got captured by the Knight, he asks Susie to draw her friends for seemingly no reason, the bread, his store is just Grillby's from Undertale, he keeps bullshitting you about his brother and in pic related he is NormalNPC's stand selling you Onion-San.Why would Deltarune be the place he wants to go back to in Undertale? He has no attachment to this place. My feeling is that the Sans we see in Undertale is actually from an alternate/original version of Deltarune where the Roaring happened and the Soul/Gaster didn't get involved, but he is not from the current version of Deltarune we are playing. Clearly DR is meant to happen after UT to some degree given NormalNPC references Gold and it's implied the Soul remembers the events of UT.
>>742681193they're frozen computer programs, just alt+f4 and restart thembesides, like half of them are literally viruses
>>742681868King is fine, it's just not as good as everything that came after
>>742681049have you even played the game? during the first chapter susie learns she should, unless somthing goes wrong, generally do whatever kris tells her to do.hell during her 'date' with noelle she still ultimately does whatever kris says. theres a reason 'noelle will be in the chair' is such a prevalent meme because if anyone is going to be cucked in a throuple its her
>>742681868crazy how much better the layering on this is when you compare it to later songs in deltarune
>>742680714You know, lesbianism isn't that bad if the girls are just getting each other wet for your cock to go into both.A girl can't really cuck you with another girl.
>>742681924why would dess manipulate a vulnerable teenager?
mew fight needs the bombs to be nerfed
>>742681924dess being a massive asshole cunt in the real world would put a giant damper on the de/ss/ and dess hornyposting once it becomes clear that she did realistically abuse kris and it also contrasts with asriel being a perfect cinnamon bun.
>>742681679Depends it's (you) getting sucked then the goat. But if it's Kris then Noelle because she and Kris are perfectly compatible
>>742679162Our meat puppet pushed her mouth upAint he a sweetie
>>742682013yeah, if anything the ch2 darkners are even less real than standard darkners as most of them don't even have a physical object to correlate to
>>742682042>lesbianism isnt that bad if they're not lesbiansshut the fuck up insecure cuck. your dick is the one getting smashed by two clams.
>>742681868This was composed around the same time as BLACK KNIFE btw
>>742682007>sans replacing normalNPC at the octopus booth in the festival artWell that's strange
>>742681265>NEVER>ABORTSo true
>>742680776More like, Susie inviting Noelle into Castle Town just proved to Kris that the prophecy is innevitable.No matter what they might try to do to avoid getting Noelle involved, reality will correct itself for her to become the girl that is sacrificed.
>>742679162I'd love to see an image of Keis doing this
>>742682065>dess being a massive asshole cunt in the real world would put a giant damper on the de/ss/ and dess hornyposting once it becomes clear that she did realistically abuse krisno it wouldnt kek it would make it 10x worse
>>742682072it's just her hair
>>742681939I think the Sword minigame only really represents Undertale.
>>742682065>>742682065dess fits that type of role. it would be a realistic depiction to portay a groomer as an abusive and pathetic asshole
>>742682070noelle would suck (you) out of kris' dick along his soul.
>>742682007It's all about perspective, shitty backwater flyover town > living underground and constantly reliving it thanks to one potentially 2 psychopaths
>>742681679ralsei > power gap > noelle > susie > weird noelle (she'll bite your dick off)
>>742682109black knife is the best track in the entire game btw
>>742682053>>742682065"The knight might be a dick" is somehow controversial Dess just behaved different with Asriel.
>>742682109chaos king is fucking great so that's not a shocker
>FFTA>Father Cid: realize the world is a fantasy after being shown the truth, reject the fantasy and help the MC end the dream for his son's sake>Fake Mother: Created the fantasy world and indulge on her son's wishes>Expedition 33>Father Renoir: does his very darnest to get his mourning wife out of her son's painting, and later, tries to get his daughter out of it>Mother: created the problem, perverted her son's painted and was everything wrong with the story>Now Deltarune>Father Asgore: was given his dream world where everyone loves him unconditional. He plays along until his son got hurt and have the dream world end afterward>Mother Toriel: Does fucking nothingIt feels like there is a pattern here.
>>742682024>hell during her 'date' with noelle she still ultimately does whatever kris saysHoly cope. Susie completely forgot about Kris during this scene. Kris doesn't matter anymore.
>>742679162I hate Kris, I hate Kris so much. I torture them. I make them stare at themselves in the mirror for 5 minutes during the weird route so he can think about what theyve done doing something so unholy as doing an occult, satanic ritual to summon me, and then he was so fucking retarded that he thought i would just do whatever he wants. Like hes so fucking retarded. Demons arent good, so I roleplay like Kris summoned the worst demon he could. I choose the options he hates, I use violence, I make him bite his own hand, I laugh as he kicks the trash can because he thinks he can hurt me, he is a sad sack of shit who isnt even grateful for what im doing for him. he doesnt even give me offerings or anything, he keeps me in a cage. He could at least slaughter a goat to keep me satisfied. I choose the most cuckgrave options, and now in game hes under the water and I laugh, hopefully the soul transferred to Noelle who is actually interesting and wants to do crazy shit. Kris just makes me want to go on a faggot's quest to be a le heckin nice guy, when canonically im a demon he summoned. Toby fox is a Satanist, you can tell because he thinks summoning demons is good. Its not. So i torture Kris in every single way I can, I hate him. I hate Kris so much. they are the worst human to ever summon me. Such a fucking nasty bitch human. AND HE STINKS!! HE. SMELLS. BAD. AND HE KEEPS ME IN A CAGE! I would wring simpson's ass neck if i werent contractually obligated to stick near this fucking stinky freak. HE EATS MOSS! AND HE DOESNT EVEN BRUSH HIS TEETH? I made him steal his brother's money hoping he'd buy some toothpaste, but he didnt. I fucking hate him. Castle town is empty. I tell Ralsei to keep smiling. I make Kris say the things they dont want to. FUCK KRIS!!!!! FUCK!!!! I CANT WAIT TO DO COOL SHIT WITH NOELLE, THE FIRST ONE BEING KICKING KRIS'S FLAT YELLOW ASS!!!!
>>742681679Aqua
>>742681679Obviously RalseiSusie does get consideration for the long tongue thoughAnd Noelle could make up for her buck teeth and lack of experience with attitude and enthusiasm
>>742682065Not really
>>742681951It's time to slay the dragon.
so what in the fuck is ralsei, anyway?
>>742679651>>742679883I don't know if this means anything but evil Oersted is generally depicted with vines and grapes in his body, kinda reminds me of Flowey.
So why didn't asriel send off those love letters?
>>742682065>dess being a massive asshole cunt in the real world would put a giant damper on the de/ss/ and dess hornypostingare you stupid? you think noelle being secretly a psychotic suicidal bpdemon made people stop liking her and stop making rape jokes? no bro it made it 100 times worse...or better, depends on who you're talking to
>>742681868underrated song tbqh
>>742682243>Make kris go to the lake so he'd finally take a fucking BATH
>>742682243I........I fucking kneel
>>742682262Tree
>>742682243>FLATNo!
>>742682221when you die or go missing they'll only talk about the good times
>>742682262a faggot i think
>>742682072He really did lift her head.
>>742681764>it's in one of them, which they probably don't knowThere was a Dark World "a long time ago." Asgore found a black shard at "the original scene." They know exactly where it happened.
>>742682262Kris, the real one
>>742682262A plant root that goes through all of Hometown. It explains why he doesn't get along with another plant that is Flowery
>>742682361kris is gay for himself?
>>742682232Yeah I really like it, the Chapter 1 OST has a really different style compared to later chapters. Maybe that is why I like Chaos King and Black Knife a lot.
>>742682262A plant. There are many hinthint about this.
>>742682072everyone is saying that kris and noelle went out of bonds or into another world but what if they actually did die tho?
>>742682072
>>742679321So do we conclude she's the one going to kill Susie on Normal route and turn out to be bullshitting everything related to her lesbian crush?
>>742682428they went to heaven
>>742682281>Asriel trying to think of the right moment to give dess his love letters>Can't concentrate because dess is currently sucking him off.Basically what happened with me and my highschool girlfriend.Neither of us confessed but we ended up dating for a stupid long time anyway. Neither of us knew when it happened.
>>742681193>Aborted weird route is the true endingWho said that? It will be likely the worst ending possible for everyone, Noelle becoming the doomsday event tier.
>>742682426ralsei is not a plant
>>742682262moss in the pipes>>742682428If they just have 7B be "lol you died dogsound.mp3" after giving pretense of a next part instead of just having the ending showing they died then and there im pretty sure it'd piss lots of people off.
ralsei is still my favoritefan interpretations get him wrong all the timeit's going to get worse with some out of context screenshots
>>742680592Nostalgia Route = Kriselle = Trying to get things like it was, keeping Tenna, fixing Asgore with Toriel, choosing Hometown over dark world and sacrifice Castle Town to fulfill the prophecy,Moving on Route = Krusie = building new future against any prophecies but also choosing life over escapism. Prophecy is denied, but dark world intact, yet mostly abandoned to seek friends with Susie in Hometown and later in College as they start dating.The Escapism Route= Kralsei = The prophecy is defeated and Darkners lives with Lightners in harmony, Kris lives in fantasy world with Ralsei and teaches him to enjoy life the way he wantsI can see it. Only those are the actual real routes. PizzerinaxPizza Pants hinted at 3 roads with Catty, Bratty and Nicecream. The Deltarune symbol also consist of all 4 of them. That mean there will be no Catti or Berdly routes.
>>742682319>>742682376>>742682426ralsei literally sheds fur, and the game associates the marshmallows with bunnies.
>>742682506They're too retarded and more focus on validation.
>>742682262Ralsei is Ralsei"the guy who's defining strange quality is being able to move on his own is a tree" is the dumbest shit I've heard in a long time. It's even dumber than the "gooner hand" shit, at least that had actual in-game imagery that people were just being way too literal with.
ralsei isnt a plant, his dialogue sprite has too many colors
>>742682428They couldn't die while we were pressing PROCEED. The dialogue screen is still open. Plus, Noelle's hair is dry in the last sprite, they are no longer in the water.
One year later and I'm still the only one that noticed the green piano has Asriel's motif.If the Knight opened the fountain, that must whoever it is is connected to Asriel.
>>742682486That last shadow crystal is such a brutal one.Imagine using it for a sword.
>>742682535>PicHow are the Japanese handling the weird route anyway?
>>742679162>Noelle, your father has fallen. Come quick.>Mom, I'm here. Where is dad.>Your father has fallen... INTO A LIFE OF CRIME. He is the Knight. There's only one hope. Go to the lake and get Onionsan right now.
>>742682552damn i was just playing ch4 the other day and forgot to bring it up
>trash trio fight>gets a new battle theme that is 1:1 with the checker battle theme, but with the superboss motif.I get it people obsess over what that theme could mean so now he is just throwing it in random battles and minigames to fuck with people.But feel like kinda like shooting yourself in the foot when one of the strongest points of DT/UT how interwoven the music is with the plot and characters.
>>742682262Kris cool OC
>>742682535flowery shoved ralsei in the "unnecessary shit" drawer alongside the golden armor, the points, and the cut in half photo.
>>742682428You stayed Determined, didn't you?
I don't care about Ralsei.He could be Asriel, a dark prince, a trans faggot or a fucking root/plant.He hasn't done anything in particular that makes me like him.He's just a doormat for Kris, he hides his true nature but being le evil inside doesn't make him endearing either.In short, he's a shit character with no possible redemption, whose only appeal is being a furfaggot and "omg asriel" shit bait
nothing as fucked as Humphrey even happens in this game
>>742682552Dessknight truthers win again
>>742681814It's true. Kris was molested as a child, so for them, molesting Noelle back is therapeutic. This is how he heals.
>>742682426Marshmallow roots taste nothing like marshmallow as we know it today
>>742682552>>742682597>>742682636https://files.catbox.moe/aowxgx.mp4It's so fucking on the nose why did barely anyone notice it?
>>742682635remind me what was crazy about humphrey
>>742682535Look at ralsei's door in castletown
>>742682552>If the Knight opened the fountain, that must whoever it is is connected to Asriel.Doesn't the fact that being able to go to the Egg room, a place that specifically associated with Kris, in the 2nd Sanctuary, which was created by Susie, disapproves that?
>>742682573They live through neon genesis evangelion. They will be find
>>742682627He grew on me in Chapter 5 because he kept making funny faces.
>>742682262He's Fungi, they can get ridiculously huge and live underneath the seafloor, mushrooms are just part of them
>>742680464THE POWER OF
>>742680880I'm all for Krusie or Kriselle but threesome is more degenerate that pure Kralsei gay shit as its a betrayal of the concept of love being between 2 special souls. Leave this degeneracy to leftoids and Muslim subhumans
>>742682519>Nostalgia Route = Kriselle = Trying to get things like it was, keeping Tenna, fixing Asgore with Toriel, choosing Hometown over dark world and sacrifice Castle Town to fulfill the prophecy,Best ending IMO. This is literally everything I wanted.
>>742682667was it in susies?
>>742682530hahah what the fuck does this actually happen in game?maybe next chapter will have him in a amazon basics femboy outfit
>>742682428People who say this shit clearly don't know there's a fail state where they did drown. If they drowned then that wouldn't exist to begin with since there'd be no difference.
>>742681193They were merely frozen computer programs. Just reboot and they're fine.
>>742682421the end melody of Chaos King is so peak
Gaster's machinations are so nebulous people arent sure if NormalNPC is his strongest soldier or a raging incompetent who made the infiltration too obvious.
Rip Flowery he was a real Mad Dreamer. Ralsei is just useless at this point because they had fire magic the whole time.
>>742682530Nah, bro...
>>742682659Someone (You)'d me while I recording it forgive the windows notif sound. Here's a redohttps://files.catbox.moe/drc6lw.mp4
>>742680464Mewmew is a fantastic show but it lacks by not being the chapter cap.
>>74268226290% chance of him being a tree
Plebbiit likes that loser Flowey while 4chan likes the gigachad Flowery.
>>742682669kris, get in the dark worldor noelle will have to do it again
>>742682738Probably a fuck up given that our SOUL knows about Undertale
Biggest fucking fraud in the game
>>742682664What about it man"Ralsei's silhouette looks kind of like a pine tree" okay so the pine tree which was growing in the school's closet got up and walked to the library? Is that what you're telling me?
>>742681924feels like questions about dess overtake questions about even gaster at this point. Really hope it lives up to the hype no matter how it's handled
>>742681126The problem with Kriselle is how the hell the story justify Kris choosing psychopath who used to be his childhood friend over present cute loyal tomboy? This would be like Guts choosing Griffith over Casca
>>742682262Lovecraftian entity taking on an appealing form
>>742682790flowey design but with flowery personality is what I want most I like the funny flower face people more than the monochrome humanoids
>>742682812omg is that Chesire
>>742682812friend is ralsei my dude.
>>742682818root
>>742682812He's only ever been a silent observer, and I theorize Friend is just Gaster's dark world formhow is he a graud?
>>742682768>>742682552>the piano sounds like asriel's theme if you play asriel's theme on ityes????
>Route C (cat / cannon / twisted sword / aborted weird route) >Gaster is on the verge of defeating Friend and Fun Gang>Suddenly out of nowhere >Flowery in a last ditch move attacks Gaster like Vegeta in DBZ with Cell >Fun Gang and Friend save Deltarune and Undetale from Gaster >Gaster is happy because the survey program is complete going between the lines of fantasy and reality and how he’s a computer character that’s self aware
>>742682812He just wants to be a little guy.Fucking normalnpc is the guy you gotta watch out for.
>>742682848what would flowery do in undertale?i doubt he'd try to kill everyone
>>742682552>connected to Asriel>connected to Gersonhow could it be anyone other than December
>>742682831Because Noelle is interesting and exciting, she has layers. Susie is boring, what you see is what you get.
>>742682812Trust he's got something special for us in Chapter 6
>>742682738Infiltration? We literally speak with what I assume is gaster multiple times. He knows, We know. He knows We know. We know he knows.Normal npc is just being autistic
>>742682867Theoryschizos were making him out to be the literal antichrist and the true overarching antagonist of the narrative, being the reason the Dessappearance happened, the demon that Kris and Catti summoned, and every other tragedy in Deltarune.
>>742682812can't be a fraud if we know absolutely fucking nothing about who he is or what he doesi'm getting real sick of this mystery box shit
>>742682864okay so againwhich indoor locationin total darknessdo you imagine this pine tree growing inand spreading its roots through the foundation of every building in townsomehow
Why is Gaster kidnapping all the UT characters?Can't he just pirate the game?
>>742682930not for me, i saw that coming so i drowned him before he got the chance
>>742682812My guess is that they are Familiars sent out by Seam that people thought were like, cat satan. ERAM's mouth flatout has the same orange as seam;s mouth ffs.
>>742682812can't wait for this stupid fucking fat lazy ass cat to do absolutely nothing AGAIN in Chapter 6
Bros... Is monster kid gonna be alright?
No one buy trannies played this game or know what you are talking about.
>>742682956
>>742682831>psychopathShe's not a psychopath, she's just fucking depressed. It only gets worse in the WR.
>>742681939>worst endingLolThe biggest plot twist would be a change in control this time. The player and Frisk's Body forcing Chara to watch how their little perfect world goes to hell, because Frisk wants to return to their family. They want out as the Sword minigame implies.In Undertale most of the dialogue, prior to Chara taking over, was what Frisk was thinking. Frisk was stolen from his family. Undertale best ending is the first one, the one that let's Frisk go back. We are the ones perpetuating the game further and further with some characters gaining knowledge.The twisted sword is a combination of the weird route and the pacifist route, it breaks the game because only by gaining perspective of the outside that we know this is attainable.Also I don't think Gaster will show up at all.Ralsei is possibly the Twisted Sword route boss warning you to not fuck things up further for it would mean the end of every other character but Kris.Then again What happens to chara in the sword route? They clearly don't want to proceed with thisI think it is best to abort for sword route in chapter 2 so we get to kill Noelle and Susie after being forced watch yurislop.
>>742681347I don't think we need to make schizobabble theories to conclude that there is some alternative ship route of Kriselle and its not just Krusie vs Suselle in the story. I think Kralsei has it too and i dont see Kralsei making essay on how it can exist. Existence of Kriselle Ferris Wheel is enough to confirm it just like Onsen Ralsei scene is confirming Kralsei route.
>>742682812He's obviously chapter 7 material, people are just impatient.
>>742682939The tail of hell is probably connected to friend but and all that entails, it just hasn't paid off yet
>>742683005>No one buy tranniesI hope not...
>>742682831noelle isn't a psycho, she's just having a manic episodei'm 100% certain she'll chill out in ch7b, it's aborted noelle you have to worry about because she didn't get catharsis she might have an emotional breakdown when she learns everyone has been lying to her face and that the power she felt was real, but her and kris failed to do anything with it
>>742683001>age regression fetishunf
>>742682993No
>>742682262Ralsei is either a plant system, or is a more pure fragment of the primordial darkness that allows him to bypass typical boundaries.
>>742682692>a betrayal of the concept of love being between 2 special souls.I don't believe in that kind of love. There is love in the sense that you deeply care about someone. There's love in the sense that you find someone alluring and attractive. There's love in the sense that you think someone is a good fit to raise children with. None of those types of love require 2 people being a unique match, no kind of love is so picky that it could only ever exist between two people made for eachother.Threesomes are usually terrible ideas because it creates an unstable environment not suited to raising kids, but that's largely irrelevant when talking about fantasy. The threesome works the same way that magic and heroic feats do. It's because these characters are larger than life.
>THE FLOWER MAN:>* We knew that flowers, left in darkness, will perish.>Ralsei? the Darkner? the Prince of Darkness? the guy defined by the fact that he has always existed in the dark, alone, and absolutely cannot leave the Dark World?>yeah he must be like, a bush or something
>>742680163He also slashed toriel's tires, the pie was just a bit in the beginning. It was the first sign to show that Kris has a specific agenda that goes against the rest of the cast.
>>742683005Nah I’m a white straight male who’s extremely racist and sexist and wants the world to burn
>>742682635thinking about it, chapter 5 basically is just the humphrey dungeon equivalent, isn't it?the calm before the storm where the gang loses sight of what they're supposed to be doing before shit gets way too real way too fast
>>742683001>The absolute state of KrusiefagsGrim
>>742682352>They know exactly where it happened.But we don't know, game hasn't revealed where that was, biggest possibility is the shelter, it's been open for a while and maybe it's being kept open because they found something, and now keeping the shelter closed off from anyone that could access it is the priority while they figure out how to deal with the whole prophecy business. They summoned a titan just to see how it could get defeated (thanks to summoning it exactly where gerson's ashes were), it's safe to assume that the initial motive of finding Dess is what started this mess, but whats currenttly happening is still a mystery.
>>742682262I chose Pink and Blue because fuck this faggot, Krusie forever. I hope we seal the last fountain and never have to see Darkners again.
>>742683113Mushroom.
>>742683116I thought he slashed the tires at the end of chapter 2
>>742683113people are saying he's rootslol
>>742680264This but unironically, except she has strong urges to do heroing, she probably can feel that she isn't playing her role which lead to her meltdown in WR
>>742681193Happy is subjective and in the eye of the beholder. Which will be me once I've slaughtered ever single lightner in Hometown.
>>742683104>Ralsei is either a plant systemI keep seeing this theory but what evidence is there that Ralsei is connected to "roots" in any way?The second one is much more likely, Ralsei being some aspect of pure Darkness
>>742683113Ralsei is a blind moleworm theory
>>742682993I think he'll be fine. Normalnpc is a rouge agent but he only seems to want to go after people fucking with gasters plans.
So what’s gonna happen in Ch 6?
>>742679235>try to ACT tough and scare the SOUL>PROCEED to make his life a living hell and torture them and their loved ones.
>>742683225nothing or everything
>>742680529>>742681539>>742681868Attack of the killer queen>chaos king>guardian>tv time>flower manBlack knife>big shot>world revolving>mew mew>gerson
>>742683149It makes more sense for him to be funghi given how their roots spread everywhere, spores and having them grow in damp and dark places
>>742683124Toby better be locking in for chapter 6 and 7 because Susie and Kris need a reality check NOW
>>742683225rudy is killsusie realizes kris is working with the knight noelle spergs out over kris/ susie lying to her about dark worldsralsei does firegrave seam makes the pure crystal and then laughs at you for not having the thorn ring to make the twisted sword
>>742683191Ralsei Tree is a nearsighted theory running on the immediate reception of Chapter 5 because we just saw Plantners = Omg must mean Ralsei is literally a plant because we have piles of Asriel's fur but it's trees/fungus/roots this time to make sense of it.It's not very different from WD KriselleKnight which has no evidence and makes no sense whatsoever but people think it's cool because they have been just recently exposed to it
>>742683223>he only seems to want to go after people fucking with gasters plans.And investigating the bunker clearly counts as suchIt's why Dess disappeared
>>742683246THE CORRECT WAY TO PLAYI love that Kris thinks they can cause me harm in anyway. I let them think they can, itll make everything else harder for them to cope with later when he finds out he cant
>>742682262I think him being a plant is kinda stupid, but at the same time flowey being a flower is kinda stupid so I don't know. My guess he's just a being made of pure darkness like the titans, with no real lightworld counterpart to exist outside of the darkworlds.
>catti stocks in the gutter.I wanted to believe she'd be relevant man.
Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn
>>742681193It's just the library. All those taxes the mayor collects can cover the costs. Besides, they've probably got insurance.
>>742683191>is there that Ralsei is connected to "roots" in any way?NoPeople just heard Flowery's explanation about flowers, clarifying a longstanding question about "what happens to things in the Dark World that are alive but aren't conscious," and for no reason took it as "he's obviously talking about Ralsei, the guy whose character arc has repeatedly hinged on the fact that he is a Darkner"like Ralsei was projecting on Tenna hard and told him to kill himself in Chapter 3 for no good reason, apparently
>>742683001>>742683062criminally unexplored kink considering the dynamic between the main character and player
>>742683113hes a bundle of sticks (a faggot)
>>742682831Can I be interested in Noelle as a character rather than as a shipping device? It’s kind of hard to pair Kris off when we’re the ones puppetting him.
>>742683301>I opened that pic rel to see it better>the shadows around Gaster's face move>"that's a pretty cool .gif">IT'S NOT A GIFSAVE ME FRIENDMAN
>>742683339im putting everything into buying the dip
>>742679162>Literally surrounded by people that want to love and fuck them>Decides to be a miserable they/them apocalypse starter insteadEverything we do to ruin Kris' life is justified.
>>742683348The biggest plot twist that can happen is the reveal that normal is just like that and he has nothing to do with the big ding
2G for free
>>742683362To be fair there's also the part Flowery calls Ralsei "an impossibility". Whatever that means it displays Ralsei's nature is something extraordinary among Darkners.
>>742683270for me it'stv time>flower man>chaos king>Attack of the killer queen>>guardianBlack knife>world revolving>big shot>gerson>>mew mew
>>742683393kris is trying to save them
>>742683295i think ralsei might be the town itself as a darkner, which is why he always 'fits in'
>>742683059Suselle feels like a facade and Noelle in the dark world like the worse idea than summoning FRIEND
>>742681681It's because he was abandoned along with the rest of the darkners from ch1. He has more contempt over being discarded in an empty classroom then he does just hating them unabashedly.
>>742683339Yeah, I don't know how she could be recovered and made into a relevant character. At this point burgerpants has more going on than she does.
I don't dislike any of them butBIG SHOT > Black Knife > It's TV Time! = Attack of the Killer Queen > The World Revolving > Guardian > Flower Man > Hammer of Justice = Cutie Mew Mew Magic > Chaos King
>Gaster seeing “ The Lake “ response in the ARG
What's her fucking problem
>>742683339Least she's not in Berdly's position who's most important contribution in the story is to DIE
>>742679235>>742679162I still think the Vessel is his actual soul that was separated from him in THE INCIDENT.We see Noelle starting to grow one in the Weird Route. so I think it seems to indicate someone's no longer an NPC.
>>742682951He's the damn knight, they even use the same fucking audio files. People are so in denial they say knight uses a fucking reused asset for its only verbal line in the game just to handwave it.
>>742683124It isnt a chapter that goes gigafucked due to the lotus eater distraction.Like I feel like if image fraud was an actual deal they'd be infecting and corrupting the whole place in the last 30 minutes of it. Yeah the knight showed up to abduct and all that but it was like one of the best places image_fraud could have been introduced if that was the plan. Like the plantners had no idea the reality of dark worlds and the dangers they were playing with, they realized this at the end in the knight fight granted. It's just that we already dealt with the knight and a titan so if there is another crazy powerful apocalyptic dark world danger like image friend who lures kids to wonderland hell and makes faustian deals you'd think this chapter would be the place so ch 6 can focus in on well, the holiday conspiracy, act 3 group drama and such.Maybe im overthinking it, I think ch 5 did a distinct dynamic with flowery and maybe they just went all in on that instead. I just think it confirmed image_fraud so I re-evaluated them down to familiars sent out by seam for whatever his plans are with getting you access to a twisted sword.
>>742682262An accident.
Gaster is 100% panicking. The prophecy is permafucked and the chosen one is dead. He’s bailing on this shit, first flight to Mexico style
>>742683374also kris had stickers that one time in church
>>742683339Catti is a red herring.Jockongton though....
>>742683339They brought up the demon summoning thing again so like, she did Something>>742683406Yeah, he's a Darkner born from pure darkness, not tied to any Light World counterpartPeople intuited this pretty much immediately in Chapter 2, when he inexplicably just showed up in another Dark World on his ownafter the same chapter demonstrated with Rouxls and Lancer that a Darkner "jumping out of your pocket" is a noticeable thing, so if Ralsei was secretly Kris's buttplug on them the whole time that would be Kind Of Bullshit
>>742683110there will never be a real romance when 2 people fuck eachother and their third partner is making breakfast, it's against everything that is holy
>>742683447Why the hell would the town represent itself as offbrand Asriel??????????
>>742683393The only way I can excuse/rationalize Kris's behavior is this >Kris is being THREATENED by the Knight/Prophecy/FRIEND to comply with RK or else Toriel and Asgore would've been killed instead of kidnapped>Kris believes RK (and possibly RK's plan) are the only way to stop the prophecy, by stopping us (The Angel) from getting into the bunker (event which will start the roaring)
>>742683496her stupid bone hair
I always love how the SOUL is depicted as a horny, perverted troll for the sole purpose of making things worse for everyone.
>>742682812What is this thing even supposed to be?Isn't it just one of the attacks of the shadow mantle boss?
>>742683537Gaster wanted us to fight the knight, he's a sicko watching
>>742683339she wins bigly on Krusie route as she gets all the Noelle stocks
>>742683537A scientist wouldn't panic just because the experiment doesn't turn out like the hypothesis and something unexpected happensHe's still in control
>>742683590I mean. Is it wrong?
>>742683565why would a tree? we know asriel was the town golden child so it could be something like everyone put their hopes on him or something
>>742683565Because Kris might have started the fountain bullshit, and the town sees Kris' memories as the thing it should mimic the most.Like a parent and a child.
>>742679235Twelve years sixty the boomer man!Has no good retirement plan,Lately his penis goes limp when in his hand Like the every daily Thoughts that sustain the boomer man,Could he get rid of all the blacksInside a little chamber full of gas!So he lived the Boomer man, boomer man!With his head in the sand!So he stands,To always cast his vote for an orange manOnly watches Fox News Sold his kids to the JewsAin’t it niceThe life whatever forBoomers
>>742683590Why is (you) like this?
>Kris you really changedMe: wtf :0
>>742683381Normal route is Kris puppeteering Soul entire game. Noelle is most likely with same role and agency in every route.
What are you gonna do once the full game is out?
>>742683496her dream is having a real human player soul (You) as her romantic partner
>>742683557That's why we have it in fiction.
>>742683664Play the game probably
>>742683543Only thing I don't get is why would a darkner born from true darkness or the roots of the tree(s) around hometown look like Kris' brother?
Why did the Obsession movie zoomer steal from Deltaruned weird route? First backrooms now this?
>>742683537He literally did an ARG asking you to guess what was going to happenDon't forget, freedom's just a thing for big shots
>>742683565Asriel was hot and every girl wanted to cuck Dess??
>>742683572Kris loves the knight.
>>742683651FUCK I DID IT AGAIN FUCK FUUUUCK
>>742683110Can confirm. My first relationship was a FFM polycule and, aside from the sex and some tender moments, it was constant work and constant drama. Plus the women will 100% scheme behind your back.
>>742683684Again? What's the point? you already know what happens in both routes.
>>742680107his manual has a secret page with a more expansive detailed and direct version of the prophecy that he reads whenever we're not looking it said they'd win even without the fire
>>742683736in 5 years i won't remember everything
>>742683301He... Wouldn't right? It was a harmless prank...
>>742683736Am I supposed to not play it??
>>742683709Anon, the ARG guy didn't sound even remotely similar to how Gaster speaks.
>>742683724I'd like to ask Kris: How? But I'm most interested in: Why?
>>742683753Do you have Alzheimers?>>742683763You already did, otherwise you wouldn't be here
Why did Mew Mew have silly strings like Spamton? It was the last part of the fight where you have to go fast
>>742683729>My first relationship was a FFM polyculeqrd?
You need Tenna in order to unlock Kriselle ending in Chapter 6. Giving him away is needed for Krusie end.
>>742683686He looks like "Asriel but cuter" because was created for the purpose of being friendly and appealing to the other Heroes, and to (You)His resemblance makes no sense if he has a natural origin and it's just a coincidence. It makes perfect sense when his existence is defined as a character in the Prophecy.
>>742683301Dess didn't disappear, she left>b-but noelle is an unreliable narratorYou're in denial about your shit dess theories. WR ch. 5 noelle is the most honestly blunt she's been all game.
Since I laid my eyes on youSkies have been forever blueTwo friends started just as neighborsThat is why to say this will take timehttps://youtu.be/njgcjGojRKk
>>742683808She was about to become schizo like Spamton.
>>742683113What if Ralsei doesn't have a light-world object equivalent. What if the dark world is his only means of existence?
>>742683686The only reasonable answer that the Dark World that created Ralsei was created by someone extremely close to or part of the Dreemur family, so their Dark World's interpretation of whatever Ralsei's true form is created Asriel, and that set his appearance in stone.
>>742683808Cat motif. It's not strings, it's yarn.
>>742683826Asgore sees through that face immediately as a carefully crafted facade that he hopes they learn to outgrow.
>both Kris and Noelle a human and monster broke out of the barrier Cool call back
>>742683601I saw it as a determination extraction theory win since it makes sense he'd want you to keep pushing against a seemingly unbeatable boss in determination until Kris jobs it intentionally to stop us from getting to any later phase that makes their identity obvious.
>>742683808In the middle of a schizo crash out or some fate related thing
>>742683831She also views everyone else as literal NPCs. Her mindset isn't quite there yet, because she hasn't yet recognized Dess never existed to begin with, because nothing existed until Chapter 1 started, and characters like Dess and Asriel were not a part of that start outside of mentions.
>>742683796You asked what we'd do when the full game is out. When that happens I'll play through the final chapters probably. I'm not sure what answers you're looking for
>>742683812She gives it to Kris by the way, kind of cucking Noelle after they already started dating. I think she only made Noelle room next to her so that Noelle will watch her fuck Kris from her own room
>>742683724>>742683792Kris is blatantly in love with Noelle, so I guess everything he does is to protect her from the events at large.Which is also why he's so pissed off in the Weird Route, because it goes against his main goal.The better question is why is the Vessel so keen on awakening Noelle to her powers and helping her find her freedom?
>>742683736>he doesn't replay games he likes
>>742683624The worst thing for an experiment to have is a shitty control group. Kris and soul permafucked everything, it gives your save file a black mark similar to Undertale genocide
>>742683878what if kris died and she absorbed the human soul?
>>742682149ask and ye shall recieve
>>742683664
>game is flashing white >weird noises >PRRRRROCEEEDDDD
>>742683912for teh lulz
>>742683656But I thought Red was FRIEND!
>>742683729That sounds crazy, and would kind of like to hear stories, but highlights my point. Harems only work if the man has unlimited energy and capability to provide to all his wives, and his wives are completely trusting and content with what they have. Women have a psychological need to see that their partner is putting all their eggs in one basket, otherwise they gen nervous and start looking to either secure their man or get a backup plan.
>>742683920There's no reason to with these story heavy games.The gameplay is secondary and you could easily make a boss rush mode for every single boss that's like less than 1 hour long.
Theory: The shadow crystal is the shattered dream of Kris' first route through the prophecy, where he gets Noelle but has to kill Susie in the process. Kris sold his soul for us to give him a better route.
>>742683938No, Kris. Shooting yourself won't give you a "Persona" or "Stand" or whatever.
>>742683843I regretted watching that video because I might have spoiled the ending of the game for myself.
>>742683775It's not Gaster but it's definitely Toby roleplaying as another character who's connected to Gaster and shares the same meta-level perspective on the game's events."INTERIM RESULT"
It's actually legitimately funny how bad Toby is at writing romance but excellent at writing "friendships"
hey anonshttps://files.catbox.moe/117udi.pngenjoy :3
>>742683912soul is just defusing the bomb that will explode in Normal route chapter 6. Notice that Knights stops existing at the end of chapter 4 on WR and is replaced by Carol being a clueless foid
>>742683938
>>742683992i don't like how shiny they look
>>742683973I would like that kind of boss mode. Maybe they could put it in castle town with it's own building. Something like a dojo. That would be cool.
>>742683996
>>742683992I feel like Suselle is very intentionally corny as fuck, to the point where Weird Route Kriselle is a much more compelling romance in comparison.
>>742683938Please also edit this as the JUST Kris
I've always been a woman
>>742683992I genuinely thought Suselle was badly written "on purpose" to make the player look for the WR. But after CH5 I think Toby is just a fucking hack.
>>742684053tits or gtfo :0
the Soul is a pretty fucking funny character when you think about itspiraling shit into a super apocalypse in the midst of a love triangle for the keks and lels is insane
>>742683929SOUL is the only variable in the "experiment" that changes the outcome, everything else would just play out like every other time if we weren't there.What is the point of introducing the SOUL into the Hometown situation?We'll find out later
>>742683938Based drawfren
>>742683973You don't replay story heavy games? Not one?
>>742684115from the thumbnail this looks like a silly hat
>>742684124I can just watch them on youtube
>>742683992I was definitely surprised by how Susie acted in chapter 5, before the chapter, I even thought that Susie could've went "I don't want a lover I just want to cherish my friends" route and it'd make perfect sense for me
>>742683992I think Toby might actually be better than 99% of Hollywood and Suselle is just Toby taking a piss on any "physical based" attraction romances becoming a basic device in most movies. Toby obviously prefers the JRPG/VN style of Friends to Lovers trope
>>742683979If this is true, Kris has become so cucked that it has become a part of his entire identity.>have to give up his soul and watch someone else play through the entire prophecy just so his two best friends don't end up dying horribly>get third wheeled the entire time>non-zero chance everything goes weird and becomes impossibly and terribly worse (only timeline he gets anywhere close to getting laid)
>>742683968>>742683810>Be in highschool. Your typical nerd.>Some raven-haired petite cutie literally just walks up to me and starts talking me up.>Took her several attempts for my dumb ass to figure out she's hitting on me, or want me to hit on her.>So I do. Eventually we end up together.>She starts dropping hints she had some lesbian experimentation before we got together.>Once she trusts me enough she admits it was her cousin and they were outright fucking.>After a while me and the cousin meet. Some time later my GF proposes a threesome.>It happens, 10/10 would do it again.>It repeats some time until my GF and her cousin sit me down for "the talk.">She has feelings for us both. They propose a relationship. I agree, being the sex-brained teenager.That's how it started.Of course down the line I discovered it was bullshit. They've been in a relationship since they were 14, never stopped fucking, and it was a scheme to rope me in since my GF had a crush on me. But that's a separate story.
how could she betray me like this? was all that time meaningless?fucking clam bandit.. ill smash your home into smithereens and make you witness every second of it
>>742684154oh no no no
>>742683996Based drawfren
>>742684043well I wasn't planning on sleeping early anyways
>>742683996>Rough play sessions with Noelle on Mondays to Thursdays.>Friday night secret playtime with dessKris is so lucky
>>742684167why is orange brown?
Cross posting this great post as punishment for people going wild for nonbinary Kris again.
>>742684168Susie's willing to share doe
>>742684204okinawan
>>742684157She has been obsessing over Noelle heart beat since she lake event. I think Noelle stabbed her with the thorn ring or something
>>742682956it's already a common theory that the darkness is literally under the entire town travelling through the pipes/lake/shelter, so the tree roots could be in contact with it even if the tree is on the surfaceand ralsei has knowledge of the light world as shown in chapter 2 when he mentions specific rooms
>>742683965>>742684167Fucking hell.
>>742684062notice the difference on how susie acts on the weird route festival
>>742684204because Speedy Gonzales.
>742684206proof or gtfo
>>742683979He sold his soul to FRIEND, to the demon summoned with Catti
>>742684168Susie is a dumbass, and about now would be the time to talk some sense into her, but Kris isn't letting you do that.
>>742684206Everybody and their mother knows Kris is a boy and is only "nonbinary" in order to shield him from the rainbow brigade.
ok the schizophrenics are awake
>>742684168Don't be like that, you'll come around to her again when the moment matters
>>742684167What the fuck happened to Green?
>>742684257yeah shes unbearably annoying making old meme references and making me want to destroy this stupid world asap
Is there another game with a muted protagonist like Kris? maybe I didn't play enough rpgs but is the first time I saw a game with a generic hero without words that has a secret agenda.
>>742684167cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKGgWu9V_gg
>>742684168back to the baloon with youm inceloid, on this board we respect Susan
>>742684167i like blue and yellow
>>742684321Yume Nikki
>>742684167I now respect Toby for giving up on the "humans turn into monsters in the dark world" idea from original deltarune because humanizations suck ass and I doubt he'd do much better
>>742684289I'm surprised it took them this long to wake up.
>>742682428they didnt die, they reached another side.the 9th sprite here is unused, but the 8th is the final in the sequence.
Noelle can sit on the chair
where is the next dark world taking place?
>>742684306Green was a clerk that came from LobCorp
>>742684395True and i'll sit on the bed while Susie gives her a striptease
>>742684362>Madotsuki>having a secret agenda???????????????????
>>742684397Either hospital or Holiday mansion
>>742684384What is a matome
>>742683965>The knight wondering why image friend was no show yet again
>>742684397Id put money on the hospital.
>>742684198Lucky? That boy is haunted for life... https://youtu.be/byUCuhB8r5Q
>>742684397The pizzeria, but there's gonna be an excavation going on beside it so midway through they'll remove the roots in the pipes and Noelle will cover For Ralsei's disappearance.
>>742684430What did you think those eggs were for?
>>742684167Another tolerable Blue that isn't a gay nigger, goodI hope people keep drawing Blue as a girlTo make matters worse, plenty of people adding even more retarded details like adding a soulpatch
>>742684397Hospital.>Susie tells Noelle about Dark Worlds>Noelle makes a dark world at the hospital to save her dad.Simple as.
Are you ready for the inevitable pick a side moment? The Knight/Susie or Noelle, Ralsei is like the SMT Heroine of this game so he's follow us no matter what we pick
>>742684206Frisk isn't even a non-binary as Toby genders him as male.Kris is also not non binary because Aqua doesn't find his gender weird even if she only thinks in binary way of "girl" or "boy" and nothing in between until educated by Blue
>>742684249Yeah, I would’ve preferred a Red battle over Pink.
>>742684397Lake(with island) and Shellter are the only real important places. Unless there is an 8th chapter, i don't think we get any other spot in Hometown
>>742684480has there been a chaos rep that isn't retard?
>>742684463>excavation besides the pizzeriaThank you Scott Cawthon for leaking the details of this crossover
I remember sometime theorizing that the knife pattern shown in the trailer would be for a fight against Kris since no enemy was shown on screen. A little disappointed that wasn't the case
>>742684397Depends on whether or not Noelle will be first brought to Castle Town. If "yes" then on the Aborted Weird Routes she'll have her meltdown immediately and the chapter will go a different route entirely. On the Normal Route she'll do her Stepford Smiler routine and play along, then quietly disappear at some point.If "no" then the Hospital World.
>>742684462why does he keeps working for her then ?
>>742684036That’s just because Kris and Noelle are far more compelling characters.
>>742684482zonkpunch's "art" is fucking awful
Kriselle will win, Kris and Noelle are characters that enhance each other's presence with their subtle dynamics. I can't wait for the last chapter to drop because the tiredness that comes from skipping all the other characters shenanigans is beyond fn consuming
>>742684397There's so many good locations for dark worlds left, I expect that we're going to get our lightning round with a lot of small dark worlds.
>have to wait another year to know what the fuck ROOTS is
>>742684373Anywhere I can read/watch about this? I tried searching "original deltarune concept" but all I get is the concept art and theoryslop.
>susie is inviting noelle>she's only been in one dark world so she only has one stat increase, this brings her health from 90 to 110noelle is going to die in 2 hits and the party will only be different for one battle.
>>742684036Just say badly written
>>742684490red could have been the shadow crystal boss and pink is just a side boss, it would have worked much better since pink just nonchalantly gives you the crystal, like, what?
>>742684397Chapter 1 has Rudy and Noelle talk about their game and bringing it over to the hospital.It’s a pretty interesting thing they talk about.
>>742684490>No Thorned rose plantner bullethell fight >Just DLC Did they think it too obvious?
>>742684603>another yearyou're WAITing at least 2 for chapter 7, alongside dess' appearance and the knight reveal
I just want to know about Kris's parents and why he's being raised in a monster town
>>742684560It was for Aqua's fight (and Aqua herself is a representation of Kris), so trust the plan, a Kris Fight is guaranteed to happen 100%
>>742684621Gerson did it too so honestly it's whatever at this point
>>742684661gerson had more reason to have it than pink
>>742684658kris is a vessel with it's own mind
>>742684397I thought we were going to the shelter?
>>742684661They don't even make mention of who gave it to them like if they were someone weird you'd think they'd mention it or be freaked out or something (like seeing it as a hot potato they don't want to keep hold of)
Sjelter
It was Noelle opening the fountain in Chapter 2 as well as years ago as a child?
SJELTER DIELD...
>>742684653Honestly, I would like it if in the end Susie gives up on the codes and smashes her way in.
>>742682007>and it's implied the Soul remembers the events of UT.With the>It's nice to see you againline?
>Papyrus and Muffet were the best part of UT>There's no Papyrus or Muffet in DRTherefore, DR is an inferior game.
>>742684607she's apparently lv5 at least, but her stats haven't improved
>>742684560They weren't entirely wrong, though, Aqua is basically a Plantner's interpretation of Kid Kris based on years and years of Asgore's stories.
>>742684702I found the soul exposition annoying since they were talking about lightener monsters with plantners that take human forms. I still can't tell if loose soul swapping is a universal human trait or if it's due to some weird shit Kris did as it's a bit obvious he's used to ripping his soul out of himself. So it might be our vessel but with added time to grow their own personality for all we know.
>>742684653Poor Kris has to hop on one leg across the whole town
>>742684769that'd be kino and Kris would be fucking PISSED
>>742684681I mean if that's the case then Spamton NEO didn't deserve his crystal either.>>742684732>who gave it to them That's under the assumption they are given. Which they probably aren't
>>742684789The fuck you mean Muffet, Mettaton and Papyrus
>>742684796Yeah which is why I got a bit "oh shit" when I saw Aqua cover herself with red jam because I thought it was setting up a red aqua secret boss or something but it was just there to represent the shift.
>>742684825Mettaton turned out to be trans so I don't care anymore
>>742684769She already tried beating the door down and it didn't work
>>742684164I have to know - are threesomes as good as portrayed in hentai and porn, or per usual over-advertised?
>>742684397Somewhere where moss can grow.
>>742684858She could try harder. She could buy a crowbar from sans.
>>742684783There's also the asking Undyne about Alphys option, no?
>>742684854He's just a really faggy ghost with a really faggy body
>>742684854He is a fruity ghost that is way too into Tenna
>>742684858(Just showing how they could explain it not prescriptive)>NormalNPC attempts to kill Susie to close off a loose end, but Susie manages to kill them.>Feels stronger in the light world for some reason>Tried the bunker again>Is able to light world rudebuster the door open >This ends up explaining how she might regroup with Noelle and Kris unintentionally as it seems like they did a level skip instead of a full out of bounds?
>>742684854Then you never cared in the first place.
>>742681193Darkners have no rights and Berdly is just taking a nap.
Have a bad doodle i made today
>>742684965Did anybody point out that the existence of NormalNPC essentially proves that Noelle is correct, and that the people around ARE NPCs?>>742684876Keep in mind we were in an actual romantic relationship, but yes, it's literally mind-blowing. Throw in the fact I was a teenager/young adult, so I was constantly horny.
Attack of the Killer Queen > It's TV Time > Flower Man > Chaos King > GUARDIAN
>>742685074shit taste
>>742685074Based taste
>>742685035I'm quaking in my boots
>>742685074Flower Man > Guardian > AotKQ > Chaos King > Tv Time
Flower Man just doesn't feel very final bossy to me, the intro is awesome for the first few seconds but then it's just whatever. It feels like the lyrics should be carrying the song but even with the fanmade stuff, I just don't feel hype.
>>742684426Fine I guess I'll take the shelf
>>742682262Non-physical concept given physical form with dark magic, much like the Shadow Crystals.
>>742685202Bad taste, the final third of it is amazing
This game is going to be a full 40 hours by the end
>>742685238Cutie Mew Mew Magic is unironically a better song.The YT views also agree with me.
>>742682243Based sukuna-sama
>>742685202Flower Man and TV Time feel like saturday cartoon/anime intros and lack of serious tone of Guardian or Chaos King
I feel like KNOCK YOU OUT was better than AotKQ
>>742685313TV Time has a very serious bridge, what are you talking about?
>>742684480Well we should hope nobody goes the way of SMT1's Law Hero in Deltarune.
>>742685350nta but i find tv time the most fitting for the fight out of all the boss songs the other ones are all decent, but they don't encapsulate the fight like tv time does with tenna
>>742680379>2000s digital anime style>slight filter that vaguely kind of somewhat makes it look "old" i guess (not really)>80s style yellow subtitlesthis is the real "no media literacy"
>>742685039You can't write that and not give a single example.
>>742685410who are you quoting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eix5sVMUzkY>Asgore comments that "It really is a different color">We know that Kris and the knight create identical dark worlds.>Therefore the very first dark world must have been created by somebody other than Kris or the knight.
>>742685006MY HEROES
>>742685501Have any of these retarded theory toobers ever been correct on anything?
>>742685501dessshe didnt like disappear the minute she made the dark world did she?
>>742685474ur mum
>>742685501He's looking at his arm, Asgore's only noting that his hair looks different from what it looks like in the light world. I don't think there's any evidence that he was actually in the first dark world
>>742685501it could be asgore making sure that its actually a dark world before he starts jumping to conclusions.
>>742685631Genuinely not a single time.
>>742685631The more specific a theory is, the more likely it is to be wrong. Kris knight was 90% right in how it identified Kris's motives, but not that he was literally the knight. People also somehow predicted dustners, and I'm still a little bit salty about that because those theories were really really dumb.>>742685665Wouldn't that suggest that Dess couldn't be the knight then?>>742685689>>742685719It strains belivability to suggest he would have any doubt that he's inside a dark world.
>>742682812https://files.catbox.moe/0fxkpc.mp4POTENTIAL MAN
>>742685631My NTR video that will eventually be made will be 100% correct.
>>742684482Dawg how have I never seen this exchange this is fucking gold
>>742685797dumb theories somehow are correctwhich is why something 'dumb' like the knight being powered by the soul kris sold in a ritual leading to us getting put in kris instead of the vessel really shouldnt be out of question.Dustner stuff also was when I realize darkners are literally just kami and the darker-than-dark is simply one way of explaining shadow realms where kami are able to be more animated.I was thinking it was like "my spirit worlds are different" here even before ch 5 had you running through shinto shrines.
>>742685247To be fair, that's pretty much the standard length for a RPG.
>>742685934The knight being older just has me thinking it goes back to even when kris was a kid explaining why they are like that with the knight.
>>742685934I think the purpose of a good speculation videos isn't to tell you exactly what is going to happen, and more to narrow the range of possibilities so you know what cannot happen. That's why Andrew Cunningham is the only good one.
>>742685797Anon there are these things called dreams that can also fudge reality. Asgore has been obsessed with this shit for years, he needs to be 100% sure he's in the right place
>>742685631In the same way that most FNAF theories are right before they're not, if you get my drift.Calling it "the Battat Motif" was legit just a big fuck you to people who y'know, thought intentional storyteller Robert Fox from Massachusetts was an intentional storyteller and not a vindictive pansy who can't tolerate some of his fans being able to produce shit that outclasses anything he can produce in half the time for literally no pay
>>74268581210/10
Is flowery's outfit a reference to any anime? Specifically the shirts.
>>742685797as the other guy said, this has been asgore's driving obsession for a long ass time, he HAS to be certain that he's correct so that he doesnt fuck it all up.
>>742686104>Calling it "the Battat Motif"You mean the AIR WAVES motif?
>>742684593Sorry, the fact that they are PERFECT and DESTINED for each other is the exact reason why they will not get together.
>>742686104NormalNPC is probably the likeliest next place some shit like that could happen with all the memehype of butcherr of hometown
>>742686202>It's pink and gold
>>742686210Yeah onion is 100% showing up perfectly okay next chapter.
>>742686104I don't know why Toby got so fed up with the "freedom motif" and Hatted Ralsei this chapter
>>742686236GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>>742686180I get the joke but it undercuts everything he's setting up. Having a clown come out before the bomb under the table goes off is funny, but it completely changes the context of the bomb going off. It's instantly funny because it's several men and a clown getting torn apart by an explosion. That's not subverting my expectations that's just not knowing when to start taking yourself seriously. Combine this with Mew Mew being a secret boss and the intrigue has been spoiled. It's all leading up to another gay Mike bit.
>>742686236My god...
>>742686236I still can't believe pink and yellow was literally just an ntr meme this ENTIRE time. That plus all the blue roses everywhere in the lead up for Kris and "unrequited love"
>>742686282Nah, you're just a hysteric bitch.
>>742686282That being said I'd pound Pluey's PlueyProstate(TM) until the little fruit won't walk normally for the rest of his life. I'd graciously stuff my throbbing member into his PlueyHole, driving it in till the hilt and the undertail finally meet with their shared desire
>>742686202Can someone put Kris's face on the yellow guy in the cuck corner, Noelle on the other yellow one and Susie on the pink one.
>>742686282You're right, this is exact kind of irony-poisoning Gerson was warning us about and Toby didn't take his own advice.
>>742686302I take back what I said about the original Pluey, Anon put on the cat suit and saxophone ball gag you're my new Pluey
>>742686282>forgotten man was nothing>friend was nothing>motif was turned into a funny meme>shadow bosses turned into a funny memeKris isn't the only one getting cucked. People expecting writing better than a marvel movie got cucked too!
>"People" unironically getting mad at the Battat motif jokeGrow some thicker skin
>>742682692Nigger you're on 4chan lusting after cartoon animals.
>>742686282green pippins is toby's basedjack to mock people who like thinking about his writing and work. idk why it makes him seemingly upset, unless hes really just joking and its not coming across
>>742686427This fanbase couldn't handle a rape *allegory*
>>742686398I think after the 10th anniversary stream and the whole spic outrage Toby has grown to completely resent his audience. Watch how Chapter 7 turns the whole thing into one big spiteful irony-poisoned shitpost.
>>742686363It takes a lot of the thunder of this being our triumphant last dark world before the endgame. >>742686427I'm not that bothered by the battat joke. It's fine to have a few dedicated characters to making meta jokes, that's fun. The self referential humor doesn't stay contained to the mike room though.
>>742686464it's coming across just fine to normal people
>>742686398still better than marvelslop though desu
>>742686471He learned from the best.
>>742686427I wish you had guys did have thicker skin because the battat joke had me in tears
>>742686503do u know where u are right now?
>>742686282This is just an innocuous joke. I thin MewMew feels like too much of a joke and that's disappointing given she's a Shadow Crystal boss, but a silly fight in Castle Town being capped off with this isn't worth getting upset about.
>>742686398Couldn't have known, admittedly! I'm done bothering to take any of this seriously, I'm kinda just waiting to see how bad this 2-year long landing is gonna be.
>>742686523it didnt actually hurt my feelings, id be surprised if it actually hurt anyones feelings. Its just too self aware ironic and basically just copied that 'its always sunny' pepe sylvia scene
>>742686581>it didnt actually hurt my feelingsyeah we can tell
>>742686427Toby first.>quickly damage controls Toriel being a bad mother about the keys and phone shit>quickly damage controls people pointing out how Suselle is dogshit and realistically doesn't make any sense by spinning it on Susie pointing out herself she's different than at first glance and Noelle shrugging and saying it's even better
>>742683153He made the dark world in chapter 2, and we played as him the entire time on the way home and Toriel addresses it before the chapter ends. cmon anon
>>742686427The meta humor was shit and teasing theorists when theorybait is the only thing keeping people interested in this 8 year project besides shipbait is biting the hand that feeds you, after actively chasing that hand and using it as a crutch.
>>742686398Why is Mew derangement syndrome so common?
>>742686398i thing the forgotton man is still something i don't know how good the proof is, but i think it's safe to say that he isn't gaster, and that gaster might actually be against kris meeting him due to the dogchecks
>>742686609le epic u memed me good u wanna make out?
>>742686635no he did slash the tires, he runs the tap crawls out the window and goes and slashes them I remember it
>>742686541honestly Mew Mew herself isn't what bothers me cause it's not like it couldn't have worked. But it's weird to shove a representation of one of the most important relationships in the game to JUST a shop and have pre-fight dialogue be there just to set up a joke with Orange. Like, yeah the writing's on the wall during the fight but still.
>>742686635He climbs out the window while "washing his hands" you dope
>>742686398>>742686471>>742686519We see how it played out with Chainsaw Man and TADC when creators just stop bothering about lore and developmentSoon enough it'll be a trifecta in media from manga, animated show and then a game when it ends with so many questions unanswered
>>742686730I also think MewMew herself is conceptually fine, it's just the tone of the fight and her lack of presence throughout the chapter that's the issue. The ideas surrounding MewMew are fine for a Shadow Crystal boss, the execution is just off.
>>742686289
I feel like if either Toby shut himself off entirely from his fanbase or just worked with an actual studio to develop the game with deadlines and shit to release the whole thing at once, this game would've turned out a lot differently.
>>742686783Kek, I see what you did there
>>742686797yeah it would totally look like this bro
>>742686674I rape women John, it's what I do, penis or no penis
>>742686826zoomers are so retarded you guys think plot development is 'lore' now. the CIA demoralization campaign worked, youre all retarded now
>>742686738>>742686721shit you're right, I could've sworn there was more to the end of chapter 1 but maybe it really was all a bait. But I did completely forget that scene, my bad anons
>>742686826Ironic shitposting to deflect criticisms doesn't make it lose its fun value(xd festival birb reference), Toby You colossal fucknugget
>>742686856What is this, a secret attack for ants?
>>742686826all they can do is strawman
>>742679162Anyone have that picture of kris with the soul within the baloon shaped like an angel? I can't find it anywhere
>>742686690Again, we have been over this, forgotten man is just a transgender thing, nothing more.
>>742686826You joke but this is the same level of subtly with which snowgrave is conveyed
>>742686913i'm going to throw a brick at you, how's that for a transgender thing?
>>742686856Can't believe Aqua learned a technique that SWOONS...
>>742686950Him being a unlikeable retard is a transgender thing on its own
>>742686471to be fair you cant fucking blame him.>to start everything, before he could even get the game out he had a diaper fetishist furry refuse to remove his backer pledge, so he had to shove his OC into the darkest pit he could think of>fun events were datamined almost immediately>sans overtook ALL fancontent until toby put out the CH1 demo.>fanbase latched onto his gender ambiguous protags as being HECKIN DIVERSE, when its purely to help with self inserting and the eventual rugpull of the insert being their own character. no doubt that toby's plans for kris had to change because of this.>had to bail out materia because wolfe made a bet against fangame devs and he had to avoid the PR crisis>also has to deal with materia being a liability in leaks>audience is so autistic about theorizing and predicting everything that someone either predicted his ending plans 1:1 or made something significantly better than what he actually had planned>he cant have ANYTHING potentially referencing the future hidden in the game's files with how everything gets datamined, has to comb the game to make sure nothing slips through>everyone spent four years theorizing on a fucking easter egg png with pink and yellow eyes>topped off with the ten year anniversary, having to shell out more cash just so that his retarded fandom wouldnt get a meme name in for the climax moment.
>>742686994>>audience is so autistic about theorizing and predicting everything that someone either predicted his ending plans 1:1 or made something significantly better than what he actually had plannedholy cope
>>742686994You reap what you sow I'm afraid.
>>742686994The problem with indie devs is taht they don't know when to leave the internet, that why Toby and Goose are going crazy, imagine if Taylor Swift had to engage with her fandom, she would have gone crazy and spiteful too
>>742686994Deltarune will end up being a prime exhibit that extremely long-form episodic releases should be avoided at all costs.
>>742687091That being said you're 100℅ on the money lol
>>742686994you can blame him, because if a writer caves to their audience in any way and it compromises his story it means he's a shitty writer if deltarune ends up sucking ass at the end he'll forever be known as a hack and a one hit wonder, nobody will give a shit if he makes another game because he blew his magnum opus by being a spiteful bitchjust like his mentor
>>742686994>to be fair you cant fucking blame him.Yeah, yeah I fucking can and you should stop running damage control for a wannabe kike that despises you for playing his game.We already have one Hussie, we don't need another.
>>742686994I understand now Toby, thank you. id want to kms at the first >
>>742687132>that despises you for playing his game.He doesn't?Weird self projection anon, stop hating yourself
>>742686797this, I always wondered why Toby didn't hire a studio to get the game released in 3-4 years after his initial demo and instead is milking this until, sooner or later, it's gonna end up in flames.
Anyone got the strange things chapter 5 catbox
I still think we should kill Toby, imho
He becomes more like Hussie with every release. I'm so sad bros
>>742687262i wanna kiss him hard on the mouth with tongue
>>742687182>He doesn't?Yeah, every single moment of subverting expectations and shitting on the player for either participating or not loving exactly what Toby loves is simply a love letter to the fans.You are horribly underage and you are already a battered wife. What a sad fucking life.
>>742687262Hey now, he wanted his little death of the author moment, not me!
>>742687301you should spend some time in a padded room
>>742687301>Seething this much just because your theory wasn't confirmedLegit unhinged anon
>>742687176last image kinda looks like shes turning into gyftrotalso crazy how no ones included this thing in any schizo lore theory despite being a deer covered in Christmas decorations
>>742687298I'd rather fuck Pluey but Toby is a similar height and build so I'll obligeIf he went through with the asian surgery though I'm getting him deported to Singapore
>>742687329You should spend some time working Toby's cock out of your throat and then reporting him for sexually abusing a minor.
Fuck this gay thread.
>>742687182Yellow on its entirety was a jab at UTYIt's funny the first few times but then it just becomes annoying when it's so overplayed
>>742687331You're on /v/ anon
>>742687390NIGGER HE HAD THIS GAME PLANNED OUT FOR AGESYELLOW LIKELY EXISTED SINCE BEFORE UNDERTALE YELLOW EVEN STARTED DEVELOPMENTAAAA
>>742687390mmmm sweaty that one was okay actuallyI have no genuine principles and simply pog out at anything the dog does
>>742687334i mean there used to be a minor theory (or maybe just a "this would be cool" idea) that carol would be a gyftrot back in the ch2 days
>>742687390schizophrenia
>>742687132Remind me anon how does one become a wanna be kikeI'm not fond of Robert but you can just call him a kike you know. He looks it but isn't. Sure acts like one
>>742687430Oh, surelyIt's not like Tovy references the fandom and its memes or anything right Retarded nigger
Now that the dust has settled, was he right?
>>742687430Deltarot didn't exist until like a year ago and Green is obviously a shoutout to Deltarot with her rectangular appearance and animations.
>>742687430aqua, seth, and maybe orange were the ones planned out.they are significantly higher effort than the other three.
>>742687430Like he had a whole boss about theorists and mike and pluey planned before anyone knew about them?
>>742687490Fuck no.
>>742687449Shi
>>742686934Do remember that when you say such things, you are criticising Tobias "tl;dr: eat shit, faggots" Fox
>>742687490You act as though anyone in this thread has played Mother 3Man we haven't even played earthbound
>>742687490no undertale is earthbound with furries, deltarune is mother 3 (and also mother 1) with furries
>>742687490Tobias WISHES UT got even a step close to mother 3, at least mother 3 was a real RPG
>>742687430Yeah, toby's such a visionary he predicted everyone would hate asriel looking ralsei 8 years into the future and he specifically planned an hour long "gag" shitting on everyone who liked hat ralsei.
>>742686994>fun events were datamined almost immediatelyGood thing too since they were broken and couldn't actually show up
>>742687348toby has a hot face idk im gonna say it
>>742687128Does some like people sorta are getting more iffy with fandom culture than ever before.Backlash against theorycrafting was probably inevitable as people farm on these crazy 'oh lord crazy shit gunna happen' vids that never were sanctioned or promised by the creator.Have we Overdosed on database consumption?Image Friend schizoing I thought was clever if the idea is it's Seam doing the shadow crystal stuff and seam outplayed ingame and outgame people trying to figure out who the hell FRIEND is by getting people wrung up on the identity of his familiars.
>>742687525I think some of the snowgrave visuals are cool. The alternatives that would make it more interesting I'm keeping to myself, as I think it could be done better by myself in a different medium in a different story :D
>>742687564>he specifically planned an hour long "gag" shitting on everyone who liked hat ralsei.Schizophrenia
>>742687640You sound like you have a subsaharan IQ
>>742687590I may also just like how motherlode had natas 'helping' you until you get too deep and then they reveal theyre like satan and have to fight them.Fun dynamic in a game.
>>742687640>shitskinned underage tony glazer didn't even play the game he's defending as if his life was on the lineFigures.
>>742687490Mother 3 has a much different feeling than Undertale. His games really arent much like Earthbound at all aside from the dialogue. >>742687590im glad the pushback is happening, the creators just have to not make themselves insane over it and irony pill themselves to death
>>742686826Insane how accurately this image describes this thread.
I can't wait to see how Toby is gonna backpedal on the Pink cafe scene and Asgore vagueposting.
>he started replying to himselfWhat a fucking loser lmao
>>742687640is he wrong though? there are obviously bits where toby has let spite and irony slip into the game.ralsei has a line thats just>oh so we're doing the ralsei needs a hat thing againyou CANT tell me that this isnt at least a little bit influenced by the fandom's reception to hatted ralsei and hatless ralsei
>>742687794You are wrongEven if he hated it, it would have never been brought up againAgain you are confusing a gag with toby hating you or something like a schizo
>>742687830>Toby personally marching onto the screen and calling you a faggot to your face is nothing bad, you are just confusing a gag with toby hating you or something, schizo
>>742687764He already did damage control on Suselle and it didn't work, I'm waiting on what else he'll pull to justify it when people are still not buying it
>>742687830what about the 'ironic' bit before pink where susie and ralsei go>ooooh it looks like a fun secret boss! i wonder what unique and memorable theme it'll have!was that also COMPLETELY unrelated to the fandom obsessing over the secret bosses for years and trying to predict the next one?
>>742687830I hope toby sees this, lil bro
susie gaster
>>742687893He did?
