How the fuck did they game die so fast, its only been out a month? DRG lasted 8 years but this died in 45 days.
>>743285639I really don't care
Because every little design choice they made was the exact opposite of what people wanted
>>743285639Because they chose to ignore their more successful game and instead dump resources into shit most players don't want.
>>743285639Poor balance where the game is boring if you've played 500 hours of DRG and incomprehensible if you haven't. Cave layouts are a strange line and "complexity" is purely whether or not the upgrades are between the start and the elevator, or past the elevator far enough away that they aren't worth it. Guns are almost all copies of DRG guns, and were therefore designed to shoot an entirely different enemy type and be supplemented with sidearms and overclocks. Traversal tools are too inconsistent for cave generation to rely upon them, but too essential to leave to chance. The is unplayable solo and barely better with randos. Even a coordinated 2-person co-op will often have too few warm bodies to do the bare minimum to keep up progress. Boss hitboxes are a travesty and boss arenas can make a fight trivial or impossible with no recourse. Everything good about this game was copied from DRG, and was stale 200 hours ago. Everything added to this game fundamentally misunderstands why DRG was good, and seems to be driven by an almost Helldivers level of spite against the playerbase.
>>743285639idk i didn't even bother trying the closed beta after i got accepted
>>743285862>almost Helldivers level of spite against the playerbase.This is absolutely true, the latest patch buffed the enemy type that people hate the most and people are actually very vocal about how much they hate this patch.
They did a good job of WiiU'ing this because I assumed this was the top down one when friends brought it up
Rogue Core proves that the Danes deep down in their hearts are exactly the same as Swedes. They know better and will want tell you what to like.
>>743285932>This change was "missing" from the patch notesThey really are like Arrowhead, also:>Developed by Danes>Published by SwedesWhat is with that part of the world striking gold and selling it for lead?
That's the game with ugly women dwarvesNot even going to try it.
wokeslop
Because its shit
>>743285639>do a beta test>beta testers tell you it's shit>"well, fuck those guys, they don't know anything">release as is>flops because the beta testers were right
>>7432856391. Early access.2. UE5 slop.3. Very limited content, not too fun gameplay loop.4. The art-design is a clear step DOWN. Hell - most promo art don't even include BEARDS.DRG is still doing great to this day.RC was meant to be an expansion pack, and it shows.
>>743285639THEY DIDN'T LISTEN.They genuinely didn't to all the feedback that was given despite having several closed tests. They went unreal 5 while the original game was UE4 and ran on toasters, the new one doesn't look any better but of course the requirements aren't the same.Also hubris, they had a relatively succesful game with DRG by accident and they thought they were actually good developpers, which they're not.
Im glad i got this refunded after 2 hours
>>743289751I put in like 8 hours and got denied. I thought it would get better.
I knew people didn't like it as much as the OG, but I didn't expect it to die this fast lol.
>>743285639Go woke go broke
>>743285932>cancerous damage sponges made to be even more spongy and cancerousWhat a nigger game.
>>743286251scandis are very "vision"-focused when making gamesmakes for more unique shit being developed but also makes them unable to take fanbase feedback correctly which is why they go to shit post-release
>>743291986Its surprising how many times they have ruined HD2.
>>743285639I took too long to come out for me, I was looking forward to it as someone with 3k hours in DRG but in the meanwgile I got into helldivers and passed on RC
>>743292853rogue core may be shit but you sound like a fake fan, a poser and a larper
even if they "fix" all of the annoyances of rogue core (ie the core gameplay and philosophy) it will still just be 1 hour long deep dives where half the time your locked into a shit weapon for most of itevery layer of the deep dive has the same objectives every time until the bossmaybe once in 30 or so hours I got a zany/wacky build to work that was funrogue core's base gameplay COULD be more fun if it had like many many many more level up upgrades that did increasingly wacky and gameplay changing thingsbut even then it would still just be the same 3 objectives every layer
>>743292839>>743291986>>743289327>>743286251https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_JanteOriginally written as a criticism of scandinavian culture and how they refuse to wccept changes, the ten rules state: >You're not to think you are anything special.>You're not to think you are as good as we are. >You're not to think you are smarter than we are.>You're not to imagine yourself better than we are.>You're not to think you know more than we do.>You're not to think you are more important than we are.>You're not to think you are good at anything.>You're not to laugh at us.>You're not to think anyone cares about you.>You're not to think you can teach us anything.It perfectly explains scandinavian dev hubris to a tee.
>>743293667they thought they were special and that everything that they shat out was gold and now got hit by reality. you're posting nonsense.
>>743293318I just got bored of DRG and wanted something in that vein, I don't like to play two games at the same time so until I get bored of helldivers I won't be playing RC and it probably will be dead by then
>>743285639DRG could have lasted another 8 years if they didn't abandoned it to work on this crap
>>743293881>why don't they update this 8 year old game for another 8 years for free? I don't get it
>>743293926Just make paid expansions you fuck
>>743293926That's what cosmetics are for
>>743293926Strange, that worked incredibly well for No-Man's Sky. Turns out when you have <10 people working on a game, you can just shit out content for free and the sales you get from the goodwill will more than make up for anything else.
>>743294171>No-Man's Skythey're still living off the original sales. a incredibly dishonest comparison.
>>743285639>have a game that's very much male-space coded (mining, digging holes, dwarfs in general)>add w*men
>megacorporations like Sony are wasting billions of dollars trying to get a single live service game to do well>these random indie devs succeed at it>then abandon their money printer for no reason to work on something elseIf they started making paid expansions to DRG they were pretty much set for at least another 5~10 years.
>>743293881also not only did they abandon it they left it to worst state possible with the rock-cancer update for extended period of time as a fuck you to fans.
>>743294262sure anon im sure theyve been working for free all this time
>>743294472retard
>>743294552no need to introduce yourself this is an anonymous board
>>743294569don't sign your posts!
go woke go broke
This shouldn't be a standalone game, it should be a game mode for DRG at best. They got greedy and fucked up; and now they've lost their cash-cow.
Okay it's a flop, can they come back to DRG now?
>>743294848DRG was already outsourced. Trust the plan!
>>743285932>>743286251If you played DRG from the very early early access days, you would know Ghostship are 100% spiritual swedes.
>>743294924It's all the fault of those damn zainichi swedes
>>743294924danes are 50% swedes, 50% porks, tho
>>743285639DRG was a game famous for organically encouraging player cohesion without the heavy handed bullshit most games put in.Rogue Core launched with a system where players fuck each other over at the first opportunity.DRG had a brilliant atmosphere of being working class dwarfs and a mission controller putting up with borderline retarded management and getting the job done regardless.Rogue Core is about an elite strike team that still looks completely ragtag, to the point the more military DRG outfits look more professional.DRG is about making a cavern your own, with combat being a means to an end outside direct elimination missions.Rogue Core is far more combat oriented.DRG has very clear class identity Rogue Core is, well, RoguelikeIt’s a genuine example of soul vs soulless.
>>743295249>DRG was a game famous for organically encouraging player cohesion without the heavy handed bullshit most games put in.Looking back it was almost genius how well this worked out. The best comp most of the time was one of each class, but for specific levels you could have all of one class and it would work well if not better (4scouts on the mining mission, 4engies on the defense mission, 4 gunners on the escort mission, 4drillers on the oil pump missions). Never in a hundred years would they be able to make another game as well balanced as DRG.
>>7432957803 engis and a scout is the optimum team though
>>743293881>DRG could have lasted another 8 years if they didn't abandoned itNigga, shut the fuck up!Do you zoomer homos seriously believe that some 24/7 "events" and new lootboxes are needed to keep the game alive??Not long ago, a game was released out in the public, and that's it. Is CS1.6 "dead" because it does not get "seasonals"? Nope!If you don't enjoy PLAYING the game, it's useless by default.
I wanted this game to be good, oh well.
>>743289327>unreal engine 5I never saw any reviews talk about the bad performance so I thought I was crazy. What a stupid thing to do for a game with such a simple artstyle
>>743298990Yeah its pretty bad, that engine is just fucked.
Is Survivor good?
>>743285639reddit positivity will save this game!
>>743302950I actually went and looked both the DRG and Rogue Core reddit for fun and the DRG one basically doesn't talk about it at all and the RC one is pretty dead.
>>743285639BecauseDeep Rock Galacticwasalreadyafucking rouguelike
>>743285639I like Rogue Core I think most people dislike it because it's just way harder imo.
>>743285862This.Also a regular Rogue Core run is the same time commitment as a DRG Elite Deep Dive. I prefer to do one or two 15 minute DRG missions with breaks in between.Also most of the upgrades are fucking boring.
>>743285862In hindsight it should have been obvious rogue core was going to be lame based on the fact that 90% of the seasonal content of DRG was lame.The base game of DRG was just so good it survived in spite of the seasonal shit.
>>743293667I just learned about this nonsense a week ago and it's simply vile to me.If you make something great, you ARE great and special, just don't be a faggot about it because no one likes braggart, but you should be proud of your accomplishments.t. nordic
>>743285639Turns out DRG Survivors was a shit game and romrodding its mechanics into DRG proper was a bad idea.
>>743302473It's a solid enough mix of Vampire Survivors and DRG that if you're interested in both it's worth checking out. My major gripe with it after 30 hours is that there should've been more mission types in the main game (you only get 2: elimination and escort mission. Egg hunt requires the class DLC released a few months ago) as well as biomes (no sandblasted corridors for some godforsaken reason, most likely will be a DLC as well) so it's going to get repetitive after a while.
>>743294382Imo DRG did need a proper sequel, but one made primarily to address the bloat rather than change much about the gameplay.The game struggled to give each class meaningful updates when they had six weapons each due to the overclock system making each weapon an exponential addition.
>>743304210You are absolutely right.DRG got worse with each new season. Rockpox was the one that killed it for me.
i wish i could refund it
>>743285639I played Rogue Core one match, and it was not fun at all, so I went back to DRG.
Putting Georgina Floydbeard on the front cover as the main character didn't seem to help much
>>743285639From the promo material to the reviews of the gameplay it did not sound like something worth playing. I barely even play the original DRG anymore.
>>743293667>You're not to laugh at us.
imagine buying this trash in the first placeyou are retarded
>>743312457HE SAID YOU'RE NOT TO DO IT!STOP LAUGHING!
>>743312526I didn't but I can see why some people did. I mean look at Diablo 3&4 and Starfield; a company makes a good game and people often buy the sequels expecting something along the same lines or better.
>>743306120same
>>743312839You could see the writing on the wall with the space janny seasons and how long it took before they gave people an option to switch it off.I suppose if someone started playing after the seasons started they might not have noticed the trend.
>>743294924>they're not swedesjesus christ I 100% thought they were
>rougelite game>runs take over an hour>no reason to explore>shared upgrades with the team>shit ammo economy>game is basically impossible solo>female dwarves
>>743293926>the market is tapped, we can't sell a single more copysaid no dev ever, make a good game and it will sell tons. Doesn't matter now anyways, they had their window 5-6 years ago and they blew it focusing on Crap Core
>>743294283>fantasy creatures = menmeds
>>743313715>>the market is tapped, we can't sell a single more copy>said no dev everwe got a celebrity among us! one of the developers of lawbreakers!
>>743294283It would have been slightly less insulting if the womxn didn't look like George Niggerlips Floyd.
>>743314283They could have got away with it if they did literally nothing to the models and said that some were women.
>>743314560Even better: make female option that just adds big boobs to the model, keeping face unchanged.
watched a friend stream it after he got a closed alpha codewasnt impressed. some very obvious game play flow issues, having to wait for all 4 players to gather around a single point to get upgrades always meant you were standing around waiting on one fucking retard who wasnt paying attention, 200 yards off in the corner dicking around. even watching someone else play, it was infuriating to me every time it happened. that felt like such an obvious problem, and that they didnt fix it before launch made me realize the devs are stuck in 'we know best' mode and werent listening to feedback, so I didnt even buy it. maybe they'll be able to fix all the game's issues, but it'll probably take a year or two.
>>743285639I am honestly baffled that they thought fighting your teammates for upgrades was a good idea.
>>743315995They "fixed" it by making it a button that forces the menu onto everyone's screen regardless of what theyre doing.Still needs work but the fact that am obvious flaw took until after the EA release leaves a lot to be desired.
>>743316407The baffling part is that they knew full well about these issues. They were constantly brought up and subsequently ignored, but after the game's shit the bed and will probably never recover a playerbase it's worth looking at?It's like they thought they could just leave it and the plebs would just be happy to eat shit
>>743315995>it'll probably take a year or twoThat's what pisses me off the most. Through all the wasted potential, deliberately frustrating design, lopsided development focus, and just genuinely lack of familiarity with the design principles of what makes a roguelike shooter fun - the bones are still there. There is a version of this game that is good, even good in a way that DRG could not be. There's a version of this that really leans into the combat-first mining-second inversion of the DRG rhythm and emphasizes speed and dynamic prioritization of targets. They're just literal years away from making that game, after already spending that time plodding towards this.
>>743285639actually fell asleep playing this shithaven't had that happen in years
