How do we unironically fix World of Warcraft and return the franchise to it's darker roots? HARD MODE: No fucking Time Machine
lol 'warcraft's darker roots'
>>743418427>darker rootsAnon, Warcraft always was generic fantasy.
>>743418427you fucking suck jeetda
What is the point of boob armor? That has no combat application.
>>743418427Warcraft was never that edgy but yeah retail needs to tone now the disney & friendship
>>743418723Um...it's to armor the boobs, duh
>>743418427>overdetailed chink 'fantasy' armorno
>>743418427WoW endtimes
>>743418754You could just use a normal breastplate. No need to outline and highlight the boobs like thst.
I'd love if there was some actual slaughtering happening in WoW
This dude's two pieces of art has circulated this website like crack for months. Yall retards want 40k. That's all this is.
>>743418427replace all americans with chinese.
>all these newfagsOUTTA MY WAY HEARTHSTONE FUCKING SHITS
>>743418427Why is it either extreme? Either woke slop or edge slop? Did none of you exist in the 00's? We weren't obsessed with edgefaggotry.
>>743418787Then your big fat jiggling tits would get squished
purge blizzard and only hire nerds or license out the IP to non-western devs
>>743418843>big hammer and big axe = dark fantasy???
>>743418427Lol, absolute lorelet
>>743418427Things will have to get a lot worse before they can start getting better.
>>743418427It was all a dream Thrall was having because he ate pizza just before he went to bed.
>>743418936based, the Scarlets should have always been a part of the Alliance after Balnazzars death got publically revealed
>>743419076Except the whole fucking order was FUNDED by a DEMON.All of the members are required to be retarded and brainwashed garbage. UNFIT to join ANY faction.The gall to have a signet of the Silver Hand, the order they betrayed.Go suck on a demon's cock, dreadlord servant.
>>743418723it's pure SEXO dumb frogposter
>>743419149>all this coping and seething over bad writinglmao do blizzfags really?
>>743419198Did you get banned from reddit or something?
>>743418427Fire all staff, brainwash new staff with pic related. Also I hate the fucking tacticool operator name tag on the collar thing.
>>743418828it is pretty cracked but he takes forever to finish them
>>743419670The fuck is going on with her right leg around the knee area? Why is a night elf wearing the symbol of a human kingdom that was destroyed before the night elves ever joined the alliance?
>>743418427You can't. There's no saving it in a world where everything is made following criterias to maximize profits at the cost of everything else. Kill retail for good and let autistic fans make their own fanfics in private servers, maybe eventually one of them turns out good.
>>743419670>eyebrows armor
>>743418810same + actual sexo
>>743418810What do you mean? Blizzard slaughters it more and more each year
>darkerYeah nah, wont work. How to fix it? Burn it all down and survivors relocate to Warlords version of Azeroth.
>>743419960it's a thing
>>743418427Worgen knotting and orc breeding
>>743420121This is some kind of wierdly-shaped helmet, while on >>743419670 pic is some head circlet/wreath.
>>743420121>>743420184i like both, suits the nelfs
>shinda is still spamming his shit on 4chankinda basedremember that nigga shilling his sloppa on /lolg/ legit more than a decade ago
>>743420072>warlords The expansion that must not be named according to blizzardSpeaking of are they gonna do Warlords Classic LMAO?
>>743418723Good compromise character design wise between the full realistic plate armor (where you can't even distinguish a man from a woman, especially if they have an helmet) and the bikini armor.
>>743418427Warcraft has always been far more character driven than setting driven.As a result you're always going to have a setting based around the action figures, as the world might as well not exist without focusing on the action figures who are currently inhabiting it. In other words, game rigged start etc
>>743418427>return the franchise to it's darker roots?You go back to focusing on the source of those darker roots. The Horde.It's just a fact that the IP become more Disney when it started focusing solely on the Alliance.
>>743420657>The Horde.WC3 was about Scourge and Burning Legion
>>743418843>everyone in this image is a fucking chad>everyone is ready to kill their enemies>no time for talk>retail is just gay and talk about how wrong, false and bad the past was
>>743420695Yes and the LK in WC3 was an Orc from WC2
>>743420657you said this last thread and got deboonked so hard you started cryingthe Horde hasn't been the Horde since the end of Warcraft 2 lmao
>>743420740Name something dark that the Alliance brought to the setting. Go on.
>>743420740man I wish nelfs could be this meaty ingame
>>743420767Faerin Lothar.
>>743420736And?Thrall's Horde was founded in WC3.
>>743420797kek
>>743420805With plenty of Orcs from WC1 and WC2 in it.
>>743418723To point out that the wearer has big boobs, same as ab armour.
just stop giving money to the pedo troon califaggots and stay on private servers, simple as
>>743418427Azeroth is destroyed
>>743420767>something darkI mean outside of undead's shenanigans and Theramore's bombing Horde also wasnt dark.
>>743420767they put the orcs including doomhammer into slave campsthe lord of durnholde decapitated his daughter and threw her head at thrall's feet cause she was helping themjaina killed his own father to help thrall crossmedivh genocided a billion trolls single handedlythe then high elves captured the leader of the amani and cut off his eye just causeDuskwood.
>>743420874>Warlocks>Necromancy>Rounding up Draenei and raping them to try and make half-breeds>Entire Burning Legion lore being built on the backbone of early Warlock lore the Horde established >Magically ageing up newborns and sending them out to fight>Everything involving imprisoning Alexstraza and using mind control on her children>The Forsaken entirely up until Legion>Trolls in general
>>743420943None of this was done by WoW Alliance tho.
>>743419149The fancy "L" was the symbol of the kingdom of Lordaeron, anon. If she's wearing that and the Scarlet Crusades emblem, she likely has very strong opinions on the undead and the blood elves. Possibly one of the few remaining survivors of the dead kingdom.
move on man
>>743420978nigga wich horde are we talking about?
>>743421056It's all the same Horde. You've got plenty of veterans of Backhand's and Doomhammers Horde in the modern Thrall Horde. This is all shit that the Horde brought to the setting.
>>743421027the visual storytelling in this guys art is really nice and lore adhering
>>743420978Don't forget the practice of inhabiting shit-encrusted sewers, the most time-honored Horde tradition. And no, I am not referring to Undercity (the literal shit-encrusted sewer).Meanwhile, you discount the Alliance contribution of shoes.
>>743420978damn alliance really did just ruin a lot of interesting shit this franchise had without contributing anything in turn. truly the black faction of Warcraft
>>743421102>It's all the same Horde.Its not?By that logic all shit that Scourge done is also done by the Alliance cause Kel'Thuzed was from Lordaeron and Kirinthor and a lot of Lordaeron citizens fled to Stormwind and became a part of The Alliance.
>>743421312And pray tell, why were the Orcs who Thrall freed from the camps in said camps to begin with?
>le horde
>>743421312If the factions hadn't merged in WoW, The Forsaken would've been an offshoot of the Undead Scourge, the Night Elves would still be tree racists against everyone encroaching on their forests, and the Horde and Alliance would still be the same Orc/Troll/Tauren and Human/Dwarf/High Elf.
>>743421421As it should be.Undead in Horde and NElves in Alliance is stupid shit.
>Bad guy faction in the first three entries is the source of majority of the dark shit in this franchise.>Game focuses on the good guy faction who never added anything of note to the dark world building of the franchise for 10+ years>Oh how could Warcraft have lost it's edge? Where's the darkness? I'm tired of playing World of Friendcraft. But uh, the Alliance should still be the focus! Wonder where it all went wrong.
>>743421532>Bad guy faction in the first three entries is the source of majority of the dark shit in this franchise.>Game focuses on the good guy faction who never added anything of note to the dark world building of the franchise for 10+ yearsWhen was the last time we actually played as a deliberately bad guys? Undead campaign in WC3? Even in WoW Horde was mostly "we need to be better orcs".
>>743421686MoP until Garrosh went full warchief Hitler was written as>Both Alliance and Horde are le bad for bringing their way here.Then Garrosh went full warchief hitler come 5.1 and it became>Le Good Horde vs Le Bad HordeOther-wise, BFA of all things was the last time they let you be le bad by letting you fully side with Sylvanas as a option for Horde until the game explictely told you off for choosing said option when Sylvanas got Garroshed 2.0
>>743421786>fully side with SylvanasHow did it went? Blizz actually added some non-linear options into the game?Also yes >Game focuses on the good guy faction>years of Sylvanaswank
I don't know what Warcraft is like right now. Can they bring back Grom Hellscream? He was always fun
>>743421786>edgefags never get to edge >peace and love Thrallcucks are constantly getting humiliation ritualed into feeling guilty about what the eeeeeevil Horde NPCs do off screen and never get to enjoy their hippy powerfantasy without being called HitlersWho was the Horde made for?
>>743421882It was small stuff. You could snitch on Saurfang to Syvlanas, implied partially you're the reason why Saurfang had assassins sent after him at times. Once you learned the plan to break Baine out, you'd go snitch to Nathanos who'd send you in as a spy so you'd have proof of the traitors in the Horde and would ambush the NPCs that the Saurfang side would fight with against Syvlanas loyalist npcs, the script being flipped that you're now fighting the rebels etc etc.It all then ended with the positions of the big final Saurfang vs Sylvanas quest being switched up. If you declined every attempt by the game to make you go rebel, you'd be on top of the Orgrimmar gate with the other loyalists watching Sylvanas kill Saurfang then go>Fuck the Horde>Fuck you>Fuck everyone, you're nothing to meThen all the good guy Horde NPCs look at you and go>Oh, yeah, you may have sided with her to the end. But like, we understand, a lot of people were just forced into it. Just don't do it again, K?
>>743421904>Can they bring back Grom Hellscream?anon...
>>743422065>Who was the Horde made for?To justify Alliance moral supremacy fans. That's about it.
>>743422065for people who want to play as orc/troll/tauren/undeadfully "evil" player faction cannot work in wow game/story design
>>743422090BFA is so funny. The entire set up of the expansion is>Horde, we've heard your complaints. We know you hate how we never give you any wins over the Alliance. So Sylvanas is gonna be your salvation, she's gonna help you defeat the Alliance and attain victory for all of the years of oppression! Then quickly turned inot>WTF Horde??? Why did you burn the tree down??? Why are you following Sylvanas??? Stop following Sylvanas still, you're a piece of shit for following her in this questline we give you the option to follow her in! Think how you're making the Night Elves feeeeeel!
>>743422354>We know you hate how we never give you any wins over the AllianceWhen did alliance "won" something? When they turned garrosh into raidboss?>help you defeat the AllianceHow can you "defeat" player faction?
>>743422256Okay but what's the actual appeal of playing them? If you want to be a blue bulky inhuman freak with vague hippy powers play Draenei, if you want to play a furry play Worgen, if you want to play Undead play Divinity Original Sin 2.
>>743422462By the time of BFA a lot of Horde players were kinda pissed off about a lot of little things that sorta built up over Wrath-Legion.Alliance getting to raid Undercity in Wrath.Garrosh getting villain batted during Cata and MoP which resulted in characters people liked like Nazgrim also getting killed off just because the writers thought raiding Orgrimmar would be cool.WoD bending over backwards to fluff up Khadgar cause he had a movie to sell while doing a terrible job with the WC1-2 Orcs with many of these being their only real chance at screentime (Rip Bozo Doomhammer)And the narrative bending over backwards to justify Genn randomly shooting the Horde in Stormhiem from their POV, just after Vol'jin got killed off by a minor Felguard after Varian 1v1'd a Fel-Reaver before he died.Horde having zero impact on the end of the Burning Legion plot on Argus, despite the Burning Legion in the lore being the entire backbone of why the Horde even exists.There was just a lot of animosity growing in the playerbase and BFA was promised to be their big win.All BFA ended up doing was making it so the writers had no interest in writing the faction again, unless it was humiliating them more for just existing and having greviances. You can't have a end all be all win in an MMO built on 2 factions, but you can have a clear favourite faction that the narrative bends over for.
>>743418427hmmmmmm.....*Unceremoniously kills important lore character for cheap shock value**Unceremoniously nukes important location for cheap shock value*idk did that do anything? i just started working here as a writer and i think game of thrones is the greatest work of fiction ever made.
>>743418843>posts the beginning of the endWCIII fags get the rope
>>743422783You were born after the year 2004 and are LARPing. Kindly see yourself out
>>743422660Also killing off Carine in a book while Magni just got put on a shelf, in which he ultimately got taken off of again in Legion
>>743422783TRVKE
>>743418723What is the point of female soldiers? They have no combat application.
>>743424559I'd rather look at a chick's ass instead of a dudes when marching in formation to the frontlines.
>>743424559Depends on the culture? Humans and Dwarves? No point at all. Something like Orcs and Trolls? Not as effective as the men, but they're built on hunter gatherer societies
>>743418427Just play Warhammer Fantasy, way less work.
>>743424730nah all their games suck dick
I tried replaying WoW the other day and it plays and looks like utter shit.Maybe it's much better in newer zones and I made the mistake on starting a new character at Quel'Thalas zone?I'm 100% positive anyone still playing this is hostage to sunk cost. I myself was victim to that for over a decade.
>>743418723WoW armor is just bodypaint over your character so it looks like boob armor because the character is stacked.
>>743418785kino
>>743418427The good guys and bad guys kill each other and cause a cataclysm, then WoW 2 starts 20000 years later
>>743418723it's hot you gay frog
>>743418607Fantasy? Yes.Generic? No.
One of you comes back into this thread everytime it gets to page 9-10 to give it a pity bump despite no one else wanting to engage.
>>743428774I look like this and say this
>>743428708literally thieflingswhy is every single blizztroon a "man who has only watched baby boss movie" situation?
>>743418427Give me 5 good reasons why it needs fixing without sounding a like a mad chud
>>743428708literally not one thing in warcraft is originalit was kid friendly D&D which was already kid friendly
>>743418525newfag
>>743429302DND wasn't kid friendly but it got woke friendly over the years for sure
>>743428708uuuuh sex
Is there a name for the big combat nun look?
>>743418427Who gives a shit? move on already. I played Vanilla to Pandaria every day, bought way too much merch, played the card game, was as WoWbuck as it gets but then Warlords showed which way the wind was blowing and i dropped it like a sack of shit and moved on with my life.That was 12 fuckin' years ago. Like how old must you be to still be desperate for this time vampire to be "like the good old days" when its probably vibe coded ai trash at this point. Move on.
>>743418723dumb frogposter
>>743433527>move on already.>wowfagspick one and only one lmao
>>743433527>just let them winyou have no spine
>>743435608>dies offscreenAll WC2 heroes on both sides either dying offscreen or in some fucking book (Horde) missing for years only to come back unceremoniously and turn into anti-war cucks (Alliance) will never not piss me off.Also >Kargath going from one of the few orcs with BLONDE hair and turned 1:1 into that guy from that obscure heavy metal cartoon show >and dying as a first boss the second he comes back into the lore in one of WoW's worst expansionsFuck Blizzard
>>743418427rape all blizzard employes in public
>>743436997they're all troons now though
>>743437852dilate all blizzard employes in public?
>>743418723Unironically, for being cool and flex about yourself. Most armors are not just steel boxes. They are work of art and people used to add a lot useless shit just to make it cooler and more beautiful. During the Renaissance, they even added big armored dicks just because they could.So if women warrior was mainstream, there is no doubt they would show off with boobs armors. >No protective value>That's a steel armor, duh. It still protect anyway. Maybe the shape is slightly less effective, but the wearer may think it's a little cost to look more impressive on the battlefield.
>>743418936It's like wearing a svastika tatoo or a SS rune patch. They do so be provocative and to show their deep ideas.
>>743418723It would actually be detrimental as the boob plates would help guide weapons to your sternum.
>>743419076The Scarlet Crusade were disavowed by the Alliance and they even send agents to attack and kill the Scarlet Crusade and it's Leaders multiple times.Shut the fuck up.
>>743440947>ignoring the lore this harddumb nigger detected
>>743418723It literally does. Comfort. Real life lady cops complain that bullet proof vests are painful because they squish their tits. That said, having them shaped EXACTLY like tits could be considered too much based on personal tastes, but that doesn't make it wrong. Bo Katan's armour strikes a good balance since the breastplate isn't tiddy shaped, but is obviously extended outward for titty breathing room.
>>743441643>slop warswho cares
>>743441643Armor practicality in video games is literally retarded unless real world accuracy is the point. For any kind of fantastical setting who gives a shit
>>743440947>Horde antagonists>xenophobic grimtotems, centaurs and quilboar>Alliance antagonists>stonemasons who are peacefully protesting after nobles fucked them over when they rebuilt Stormwind with zero thanks and light worshippers who rightfully hate the undead and are trying to reclaim LordaeronWhat the fuck is wrong with the Alliance?
