Is this the best JRPG party ever made?
>>743628924No, this is.
>>743628924good cast but hardly any gameplay differences
>>743628924Probably but instead of cait sith it should have been Esther
I had a dream I was playing Revelation and Vincent had like a cockney accent he kept breaking character with but he still had the same really dark voice the actor puts on at the same time
>>743629206fpbp
>>743629250rekino fixes that
>>743628924there's a tragic lack of quadruped characters in jrpgs
>>743628924Kinda but they're only together for a very small part of the game, and with small I mean like 30 minutes when you go to the saucer to discuss what to do next after you get Cid, in fact, I think that one saucer scene is the only time they're all on screen at the same time.
>>743629206Yeah 10 is probably the best cast overall. Mainly because everyone has clearly defined and memorable personalities. 7 is good but Tifa doesn’t have much of a personality outside of worrying about Cloud. 10’s only weak character is Khimari but his whole thing is being stoic.
No this is
>>743628924>>743629206>>743630616>mogs your party composition Your response chud?
>>743628924Arguably, yes. The setting and cast in the original ff7 are near perfect, but it has other flaws that the remake didn't even bother addressing.
>>743630792Uhh, where's the cute girls???
>>743630896Arwen stayed in Rivendale and Eowyn is in Rohan
>>743629206fippy bippy
>>743630616They're great, better than any in FF.But I still prefer this crew. But then, I prefer smaller parties in general.
>>743628924Yes. Remove Cait Sith and it's perfect.>>743630560Why do you dorks feel the need to throw a shade on Tifa every time? A game with fucking Cait Sith, and Tifa is the one you decide to bitch about? She alone mogs the entire X cast, faggot.
for me it's these niggas + ardbert
no this is
>>743630616>Faggot >Old nigga >Generic thief >Not-Trunks >Bratty loli that isn't actually a loli bro you can jack off to her if you want she's TECHNICALLY a hag >Lame bitch >Extremely hot and sexy piece of ass with great tits Nah
>>743628924for your consideration
>>743632926Jade is by far the worst character in that game.
>>743628924Definitely. I'll happily buy so many objectively shit games and movies on day one just to spend more time with them. I wouldn't do that for any other party.
>>743632610Even the Japanese who were the biggest Yunafags on the planet now prefer even Rinoa.
>>743633271probably because Rinoa was a newcomer to dissidia while Yuna and Tifa were not
>>743632610Why the fuck is there a schizo going around every possible FF7 thread and posting Google Interest analytics? What the fuck is wrong with you?
this is.
>>743630560In case the nuance is lost on you, Tifa shelves her own problems for the betterment of the group since it's on her to hold things together if Cloud breaks, which is exactly what ends up happening. That's called maturity, and a motley crew like the FFVII cast needs all the help it can get in that regard.
I think so. A lot of modern jrpg parties are boring as fuck to me. Usually it's nothing but very obnoxious characters, and often they never bother with serious characters who are non-human anymore, like they have to be either only a human only cast, or non-humans are dumb gimmick/mascots.
I like these guys
>>743628924That bottom row is really weak and drags it down
>>743632839love these lads like you wouldn't believe
>>743633107>JadeWho the fuck is Jade? Her name is Martina.
>>743630616where is my husband
>>743628924Wrong
>>743628924>a faggot >a nigger> 2 whores> a lion> a chinkThe top two rows are already garbage.
>>743638057fuck you, Barret is one of the exceedingly few good ones.
>>743629206Both are probably the best. I'd put 7 about 10 but 7 and 10 parties are way better than pretty much any party from any other jrpg.
If 6 had voice acting the party would probably be better than 7 and 10. It doesnt even need to be 3d or anything. It just needs voice acting.
>>743628924Cait sith is fucking retarded in every respecct. Vincent doesn't fit at all. Get rid of those two and you have a solid cast.
Big fan of these guys.
I liked the party in Legend of Dragoon.
>>743638228possibly the most retarded thing I read all day, thanks
the game would be better if it was just cloud barret tifa and aeriththe rest have objectively filler character stories.>we need a character that's only useful in one town
>>743638325It's honestly pretty underrated. Everyone having a moment to shine in the final disc was my favorite part of the game. Really. Even fucking kongol had a kino ass scene.
>>743638404be more specific
>>743635605Based
>>743628924Step aside losers, best JRPG party coming through.
>>743638432I'd argue Cid pulls his weight enough beyond Rocket Town, become the Leader when Cloud and Tiffa were unable to. Red XIII could have used more screen time, but what he gets it's great, Cosmo Canyon is probably one of the highlights of the game. Cait Sith is weird because technically speaking, Reeves should a very important character, but Cait Sith just doesn't reflect any of that and his story bits in the temple are just bizarre. It's like Vivi's storyline from 9 but weirder. I like vincent but he just doesn't get shit. And i do think Yuffie is just plain filler.
>>743638636>no one has posted THEM yetabsolutely embarrassing. No JRPG party even comes close>>743638636>Phantom Sharts
>>743638636too anime
>>743638636In your dreams
>>743635605Those are not party members, that's a family.
>personafags bickering over which group of high school students is better
>>743628924wrong
>>743639106Now this is a JRPG party. Zero filler here whatsoever. I like Cross but this is one thing it fucked up.
>>743635605Who the fuck is piloting the boat?
>>743633223same
For me, it's these goofballs.
>>743638831>>743638876>scooby doo gang>bestLmao.
>>743639967I don't remember the guy with the beanie hat. Who the fuck is this?
>>743639967Yukari's Karen hairstyle is so hot.
>>743639967Akihiko, Ken and Shinji get jack shit. Fuuka doesn't get much relevance.Junpei is the only male with significant development or screen time. And i say this as someone that loves P3.
>>743641615Fei and Elly are the greatest protagonist and love interest in jrpg history.Citan is based asshole. And Bart is cool too.Everyone else however....
>>743639967based. Akihiko may be one of my favorite fictional characters ever. his arc is amazing
>>743641734First to awaken his real Persona. The only one to be able to use Persona without an evoker. Truly a chad.
>>743641712>Everyone else however....
>>743641993
>>743633695well yeah it would be
*blocks your path*
>>743642668Not just a weak JRPG cast, one of the weakest Final Fantasy casts too lmao
>>743641712I'd say Billy is great as well. Maybe Xenosaga party is more balanced
>>743639145Ayla is the definition of filler
>>743638057>/v/brain: the postsad
>>743628924I'd actually say it is a pretty piss poor PARTY. Only Cloud/Tifa/Aeris are on any plot relevance. Everyone else is tertiary.
>>743638636the artfag and the daughter of the CEO are totally filler. Goro doesn't even count.
>>743638636>Makotofaggot
>>743642931still unironically better than IX which is easily one of the worst in the series
>>743628924I'll bite sure , everyone is written to be awful or annoying sometimes both if your name is yuffie or aerith. The only thing this game has going for it is visuals everything else from dialogue to useless sections in the world derailing you from point a to point b be it things in the environment to mandatory mini games that make my way to shoot my brain out. I barely made it past the first one and I quit in the middle of the amusement park level four the second one. It feels like a dev team in California made this shit it's so awful the only mildly redeemable character is barret I guess despite him also being annoying in part one.
>>743629206i like the smaller group as it makes them feel closer. the group with cid, cait sith and red makes the group feel too big with a bunch of strangers, and yuumi and vincent were so pointless they were optional. i like these charcters, but i prefer when devs focus on small groups, not just adding a bunch of dudes
>>743643395I see it's opposite day on /v/ yet again today
>>743632839The most boring party in final fantasy I swear.Also shadowbringers and endwalker ruined the game.
>>743643271Barret and OG Cid are unfathomably based.Yuffie is pure sexo, and so is Vincent if you're a girl.Look up the comments girls make about Vincent, they're just as horny as we are for Tifa.
>>743638323I like XB1's party, but most of the characters just feel along for the ride outside of Shulk, Fiora, and Melia. I played FFX the same year I played XBC, and in contrast, it feels like nearly every X party member has a more fulfilling role in their story whether it's relating to the central plot or add to some aspect of the world with the exception of maybe Lulu.
>>743630792>almost half of the party is the same class
>>743643395As a person, that dislikes IX' party and even despises certain members, no.
>>743629206Based FFX-chad
>>743635605I really need to play Berseria. All of the Tales games I've played so far (Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia, Xillia) had 10/10 party members.I wanna sperg out about Symphonia for a bit.I really love Colette. I usually prefer the "sexy" ladies over the "cute" ones, but Colette is just too damn adorable. She's probably the only "human" video game character I'd put on the same tier as Klonoa or Tails. Her sacrificial journey kind of reminds me of Yuna, but she's done so much better IMO.Lloyd is such a lovable goofball. Some may see him as a cliché shonen protagonist, but I think he works really well in the story. Love his relationship with Colette, and the leadership he shows. I like that he's really dumb when it comes to book smarts, but a genius when dealing with other people. As for the "sexy" character, Sheena is absolutely amazing as well. I genuinely think she's a well written character, and she has the best character arc in the entire game. In fact, I don't even find her sexy desu, I think the exposed cleavage looks retarded on a character who's supposed to be a trained warrior ninja. Zelos is hilarious, all of these "womanizer" characters in JRPGs are instantly my favorites. He's a cool character overall.Those are my favorite characters.As for the other ones, I didn't care too much about them.Raine is a hot "big sister" type of character, that's pretty much it. Not my thing, but I can see why she's be someone's favorite.Genis is whatever. His crush on Presea is adorable though. His relationship with Mithos is nice.Kratos is a badass and all, but I didn't like the plot twist at all. Probably one of the dumbest uses of this trope ever.Presea is not my thing. Again, I just think Genis' crush on her is funny.Regal is easily the worst character. I don't like anything about him whatsoever. His design, his personality, his cheesy melodramatic backstory, all lame IMO. But even Regal is a solid 6/10. There are many worse characters out there.
>>743628924>TWO furshits>a nog>no titcow>3 twink faggots>can only put 3 in your team anyway so who caresno
>>743646534>no titcowBait used to mean something.
>>personafags bickering over which group of high school students is betterSad your thread didn't revolve around FF cocksucking, brownoid?
>>743633223The main reason I looked forward to VIIR was Barret and just hearing him say dumb and cool shit while blasting enemies, but all the additional banter he had with Cloud was also really good. Hearing him sound like he's actually dying while climbing up the Shinra staircase was gold.
>>743628924My brain must be fried at this point after years of porn addiction but just looking at these characters makes me think this is a hentai game
>>743646534The last > is valid. Made worse since every character is identical due to materia. The only difference is the flavor of limit break they bring to the team.
>>743632610Look, I want to fuck Tifa as much as the next guy but its true. Cait Sith at least has a fun memorable personality. Tifa is just "girl". Even the remakes realized this problem and tried to give her a fitness hobby.
what I don't like about FF7 is that theres not a whole lot of dialogue going on with the entire cast, its usually the 2 or 3 dudes you have in your party in any given cutsceneFF7 remake adds more characterization to each character but theres a shit ton of boring ass filler added and annoying little shit characters the fucking suck the soul out of everythingFFX is the best FF will ever be in terms of story.
>>743628924There's no party better (and stylish) than this.
>>743632514Yangus and the kings antics carry that group
>>743647680Honestly I like everyone, even the cat. But I still prefer the P4 party.
>>743647680Not even the best persona party
>>743647510>Cait Sith at least has a fun memorable personalityBeing Scottish is not a personality
>>743648068
>>743628924Cloud - 10//10 based self insert autistBarret - 9/10 Fun, stereotipically loud character, a bit wokeTifa - 6/10 boring but at least she is hotAerith 10/10 best waifuRed - 6/10 His 'real' voice is grating, kind of redundantYuffie - 7/10 The annoying kid of the groupCat Smith - 3/10 No one really cares about him, combat wise also boringVincent - 7/10 one dimensional chad emoCid - 8/10 Nerfed in remake but a good hillbilly representative
>>743646430zelos Is probably one of my fave characters in jrpg history, which is why I avoid THAT route
>>743628924it would be pic related if the fillers wouldn't have been added
Lets just say Yuffie and Rikku are my favourite party members if you know what I mean.
>>743648068The only funny thing about Cait Sith is just imagining Reeve sitting in his office and acting like a goofball.
>>743628924the remake ruine them for me and I haven't even played it lmaobut yeah it was great back in the day
>>743630792>2 rangers>2 fighters>1 wizard>4 thievesNo healer. Not enough casters. Too many thieves.
>>743628924No, there is a black person in it.
Final Fantasy spergs never played anything without the Final Fantasy brand name. Literal SE cattle.
>>743628924how aging works>1-20: anime face>20+: human face
>>743630560Holy shit, this is the most retarded thing I've ever read on this fucking website. Tell me what Kimahri's "clearly defined and memorable personality" is. How about Lulu? FFX-tards are so blinded by their baby nostalgia that they pretend FF7 has a bad cast in comparison.
>>743628924and these guys come in second place
>>743643271Is that the mark of a good cast? Every single character has to have primary plot relevance?
>>743642668ff13 has the best dialogue writing in the series. Worst is probably 8.
>>743642668>Half of them hate the other half>'Leader' is an absolute bitch to everyone except the shota>Most have their own agenda that doesn't align with anyone else Yeah, great party. Individually most of them are also unlikeable. Only Sazh seems like a wholly decent guy.
>>743628924best party is a party of one
kill all shart peenix niggres
>>743649254Vincent is the oldest motherfucker there
>>743628924>>743629256>>743632610>>743634271>>743638772>>743646619>>743638985>>743638985>>743647510>>743647510
lollmao
>>743650983Xbox promoting JRPGs is like the dudebro who make your life hell asking to join your D&D session.
>>743638636>>743638831>>743638876>>743639967>>743647680
>>743647680Ryuji, Ann, and Yusuke are the only good members. Haru would be better if she had more screen time but she's cute and my other wife besides Kawakami.
FF dead franchise lmao
>>743651163TRVKE
>>743651163FF needs to embrace being uncslop instead of trying to hook Genz Z and Alpha. The HD2D game is a step in the right direction. Even if it is reheated gacha nachos.
How did Persona come out of no where to overtake a juggernaut like Final Fantasy? No one care about FF anymore and everyone love Persona now..
im so tired ffbros...personagods keep wiinning all the time...
>>743650983>>743651029FFxistxers....LMAO
>>743651392Persona is pure wish fulfillment while FF tries to be mature and serious.
>>743650983>>743651029HOOLLY KEK
>>743651553>Persona is pure wish fulfillment while FF tries to be mature and serious.HOLY LMAOPersona 3 is literally the most mature story in a video game ever written
>>743650983>>743651029Faggot Trantasy is such a disgrace
>>743651621>it's mature because my characters blow their brains out
>>743650983>>743651029LMAO
Atlus won
I dunno what to say. I find anime weeb shit to be very cringe but I still liked FF7 and FF10. I dont like any other JRPGs as they are always extremely cringe. I tried a few persona games and metaphor and hated them and found it cringe any time a character spoke.
>>743650983>>743651029lel
>>743643215>Pre Lavos human without his evolutionary influence >Kept humanity's only rival intelligent species in check until Chrono helped her eradicate them>Distant ancestor of MarleAyla's sexy muscle woman snu snu simplicity is deceptive.
>I dunno what to say. I find anime weeb shit to be very cringe but I still liked FF7 and FF10. I dont like any other JRPGs as they are always extremely cringe. I tried a few persona games and metaphor and hated them and found it cringe any time a character spoke.
>>743651621Persona got mainstream with 5, and the hook of that game was. "Go beat up these corrupt adults til they learn their lesson."
>>743651884stll better than any FF trash>Kill God and save the worldHoly kek
>>743628924Yes
um ffbro why even japs want person more than youre demake trash???
>>7436518845's success was owed to 4 becoming an internet phenomenon
>>743652046GRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sure is a fuckin tard festival in here, who let the fatlus mongrels out of their cage?
>>743652046oof
>sure is a fuckin tard festival in here, who let the fatlus mongrels out of their cage?
>>743652139It is the same retard
>>743652046because they fucked up hard with rebirth, the only people left praising it are cultists, the open world was trash and there was about 8 hours of actual story in a 100+ hour game, and on top of that it was written like shit and disneyfied the hell out of the world and characters, most people didn't even bother to finish the game, it is irredeemably, unequivocally, irrevocably, over if you're a demake fag
>>743652046FFxistxers....
>>743634271she's not motherly to anyone, tifa does nothing other than listen to cloud sob back story
>>743629206I like how they are all pretty involved with each other rikku being yuna's cousin is a good touch. Wakka was the bro you needed
weebshit sucks ass
>>743652046BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>743652226Impressive credentials Mr. Retard sir, did you have to get a degree in Retardology?
>>743652384redditbirth flopped and got raped
>>743652454And yet I'm having fun. Curious. It's almost like argumentum ad populum is tribalist malarkey and you're a mongoloid.
>>743652260I have a morbid curiosity to see how bad Revelation is. You just know they're going to have an open ending so they can whore the cast out for another 20 years.>the open world was trash and there was about 8 hours of actual story in a 100+ hour gameThis is better than Remake which was painfully linear and overwritten.
>And yet I'm having fun. Curious. It's almost like argumentum ad populum is tribalist malarkey and you're a mongoloid.
>>743647680They all hated each other and had no chemistry. P4 cast easily mogs them.
He wonMax lost
>>743652260while ff7r is a step back from 15 in production quality, it’s still miles ahead of the 100 hour slog of 2d cut outs standing still on screen with some nonsensical text appearing in a box.
>>743652565like Persona isn't otaku wish fulfillment trash for redditors
>>743652046Are FFags the most patheric fanbase in existence?
>>743652679You're a retarded zoomer.
>>743641712>tossing shit on Emeralda
>like Persona isn't otaku wish fulfillment trash for redditors
>>743652679max is such a fag glad sebby is bodying that bitch
>>743650983>>743651029>>743652046grim
>>743652806youre a balding unc faggot
>>743653365Wrong. You are a retarded zoomer, though. E-ceelb-worshiping retard.
>>743652629holy sameface.
>>743649256The lack of replies to this post speaks volumes
>>743653465 (Me)Sorry wrong post, meant for >>743628924
>>743653552All FF casts are trash
>>743630792>four dudes in the same shitty low-tier classAwful party comp
>>743630792>half the party has the same personality
>>743628924The average Tales of party is better than almost all other JRPGs parties.
>>743653558cid and barret have unique faces. The rest is a repeated sameface so in total 3 faces + beasts. Still more than 1.
>>743629206I forget Kimahri exists constantly
>>743647395One of FF7's biggest failings is giving you a Dragoon that can't jump without a limit break
>>743635605
>>743653738Tales is even lower than FF on the generic trash list
>>743653723The FF series has 3 personalities in total
>>743653963Nah.
>>743653963FF makes all other jrpg series look like generic shovelware. Up to and including entry 15 are the only jrpgs that can be described as AAA
>>743653897To be fair, Cid needed assistance to take to the sky. Which really meant they should've let the tiny bronco and the highwind be used in his moves.Considering what happened to Palmer, they had no excuse.
>>743628924cait sith is overhated
>>743647680Their friendship falls apart without the presence of the MC. You call that the best party?
>>743654102>>743653897I expected revelation to give Cid free jumping on a cooldown with his triangle attack, and while he does have a "jump" attack (it becomes jump when he's on air), his land attack is mark lance, hamaguchi said Cid is excellent on air so i assume we get some dragoon gameplay finally
>>743646430>Kratos is a badass and all, but I didn't like the plot twist at all. Probably one of the dumbest uses of this trope ever.Agreed, good thing there's a way to reverse that twist and make him a hero again, with Zelos being the true traitor.
>>743647680>stylishmakes me feel like im having a blast!
>>743654180I can see Cid being a melee answer to Barret with being good at any range but poor with materia to compensate, might get a Jump materia for the classic version of the ability since FF7 Rebirth/Remake still does some "job as a materia" stuff like Chakra, Enemy Skill or Pray materias
The Big 3 in jrpgs right nowFF - You're still a fan after 16 and Rebirth's Ubislop features?Persona - Imagine being a fan after P3R and Metaphor, are your story tastes so bad? Tales - This mediocre shit has been MIA for years
>The Big 3 in jrpgs right now>FF - You're still a fan after 16 and Rebirth's Ubislop features?>Persona - Imagine being a fan after P3R and Metaphor, are your story tastes so bad?>Tales - This mediocre shit has been MIA for years
>>743655132people try to avoid giving rebirth credit for still having a lot of FF-isms>blue magic (sort of)>status effects, including toad, haste/slow/stop>percentage-based spells like gravity still work>summons>elements to keep track of, including weapon enchants with linked materia>the materia system, including linked materia and stuff that works better, changes effects, or works exclusively under a link>limit breaks>taking everybody's unique features out of their limit breaks (where they were in FF7) and into their character skills and learned abilities from weapons, limit breaks are power attacks>can still weight characters towards physical attacks or towards magic depending on equipped materia and equipped weapon, cloud in particular can still move easily between either extreme or go balanced as he could in 7
>>743655482Toad is annoying to the point I could do without it.But I will admit the gerogero song was some aggravatingly catchy shit.
>>743654203I mean, the plot twist where it turns out he's your father.I mean, couldn't they have thought of something else?
Am I the only person on /v/ with a nuanced take on the FF7 remakes? Jesus, everything is black or white with you guys. They're fun but yeah they dropped the ball hard on a lot of stuff
>>743656445Yes, you're the only rational person.We're all just loud and obnoxious fanboys.You're the enlightened one.
>>743656445Nuance requires words to explain the nuance.The more words you type, the more afraid and angry /v/ becomes.
>>743656506Yes.
>>743656445ff7 is eternally clouded by chrono trigger levels of unwarranted nostalgia
>>743635605I stopped after 20 hours, worth finishing?
>>743655132Studio Zero really showed how shitty their writing staff are. The main party always present themselves to have a high moral ground when their plans to achieve their goal is to mind rape, or to actually kill the villains.When it's time to finally do so, some anime bullshit trope of the villains happens like killing themselves or have the bigger bad do the killing. It is all done so that the argument of them doing the right thing stays on top when their intent of doing their deed is as heinous as the villains'. Taking off the head of the children killing villain? Have the bigger bad do it instead.Land the killing blow to alot of Louis' colleagues? They commit suicideLouis' character dropped so bad and it clearly is shown in the last quarter of the game how the writers dropped any sort of nuance to him and made him your sunday cartoon's one-note villain.
>>743629206Hell nah, it's ok but Auron carried this shit
>>743652629Based
>>743629206Nah, this cast sucks. Like a third of it only exists because you're forced to engage with their gimmick not because they're fun to use.
>>743630792>only one caster>no healers>4 fucking hobbitsNo.
>>743629206Nah. FFVII mogs bigly.
>>743629250New Threat fixes that.
>>743658150Can you have some self respect and at least post your own screenshot instead of a screenshot of some streamer.
>>743629206>Tidus > Cloud (Cloud's mental issues make half the game about him just coming to terms with himself, something that feels like it drags on and on as we wait for the script to make him whole)>Yuna > Aerith (Aerith's cheerfullness and quirkiness feels like the game is trying to force you to find her endearing. Yuna's low-key kindness mixed with a quieter cheerfulness is less in your face, a character doing her duty to her planet and people without regard for her own life)Auron > Barret (Auron's air of mystery and wise mentorship is way cooler than Barret's negro environmentalist schtick)Rikku > Yuffie (This one is close. Rikku is less annoying than Yuffie, but otherwise they both the same genki, hot FF staple younger girl character)Red > Kimahri (Both suffer from being largely confined to their personal character path, not terribly important to the main quest at all)Tifa > Lulu (Again, it's close. Both are largely appealing because of their physical appearance. Tifa's importance is largely contained to Cloud's journey of discovery, which as stated above is onerous at best. But at least she's involved in something. Lulu is just there for exposition)Wakka > Cid (another close one. Wakka is a great wing-man/brother figure to Tidus in the early part of the game until Auron shows up. After that he fades a bit into the background, but he represents the attitudes and stagnation present in Spira that Tidus is there to overcome with his outsider viewpoint. Cid is popular for his personality but isn't really important to the plot outside of his personal arc)Cait Sith (who cares?)Vincent (Auron outshines him and Barret combined)
>>743651392Vocal minority of underaged tiktok fags. Persoyna still sells like shit besides 5.
>>743628924For me it is.
>>743630560>>743658592>Tifa's importance is largely contained to Cloud's journey of discovery, which as stated above is onerous at bestI automatically disregard the opinion of anyone who says this. I assume they know jackshit about how storytelling works, are too stupid to understand what a deuteragonist's role in the plot should be. They should be prohibited by law to give any opinion about fiction.
>>743659138Cid and Barret are more deuteragonist's than tifaAnd the main one is Aerith
No
>>743628924>>743629206What's the point of all those guys when you can only have 3 niggas in a row and the rest of them are only there for cutscenes?
>>743659187Again, you're retarded and should be prohibited by law to give any opinion on storytelling.
>>743659256Saying "Tifa is bad because her role in the story is too auxiliary to Cloud's" is just as retarded as saying "Sephiroth is bad because his role in the story is too antagonistic to Cloud's". Yes, that's the whole point you fucking retard.
>>743659209>if you choose an all female party, entire game feels like a lost Sailor Moon Episode
>>743659138>deuteragonistTifa doesn't challenge or complement Cloud, and her support only appears for a short time, after lying about their relationship for most of the game.
>>743659235In X's case you can swap all characters out mid-battle, depending on whose skills you need. It's a limitation due to the limitations of design skill/hardware capabilities at the time. Older FF games you could control 4 characters, and western games like Baldur's Gate you could control 6.
>>743658397Well ignoring his lack of self respect then what about his rebuttal
>>743659845FF9 had four niggas.
HERE W-HERE W-HERE WE GO
>>743660130SO THEY'RE FINALLY HEREPERFORMING FOR YOU
>>743652679I fucking hate this guy. Every time I see him he's making up some strawman so he can blast jrpgs and praise E33 like the second coming of christ.
>>743628924Cait Sith should get his own game
>>743652679This guy is absolutely based. I can't believe there wasn't more pushback against the Time Jannies
>>743647680Morgana should get his own game with Jack Frost
>>743630792>replies are all the same hurdur bad party comp bitsholy fuck have RPGs raped the imagination out of peopleit's not like it's the party from "the hobbit" come on
>>743639106CT is hard to argue, the cast is great all around just like the game. Though FF7 has the edge factor and I consider that important because I never grew out of being a teenager unironically
>>743628924>niggernope.
>>743661134Barret is no nigger. He's based
>>743661061CT has a silent protagonist, which make it garbage by default.I mean, Crono is probably the best silent protagonist in video game history desu. His scene with Lavos showed so much character without saying a word. But I'd still put him below most Tales protagonists.
>>743632925MY KING
>>743629256You should be able to fuck her if you breed a gold chocobo.
>>743630616>receives a surprising amount of characterization and development that elevates the entire game >act 3 "lol nvm"
>>743628924Hell no.
>>743632839>game has multiple races>main party has only humans and elves>they change the thief to a tank because they realized just how utterly lacking in actual character variety the cast jsYour post is vomit inducing
>>743635605This is the actual best JRPG party. God it felt so fucking refreshing to have a JRPG cast that weren't a bunch of retards.
>>743661456also shoehorning estinien into the party because they needed a melee DPS and they've already killed or removed anybody else that could have fit the bill
>>743661184This. Gotta respect Barret.>team dad and an awesome leader>black man raising a white man's kid, talk about subverting stereotypes>coal miner, the manliest of all manly professions>jacked as fuck, but stays humble>no black'd fetish cancer, in fact his only love interest is another black woman, just like God intended>pissed off libtards for being a "racist" caricature, in fact, praising Barret gets you automatically banned on RedditEra, I kid you not>bitchslaps that faggot Cloud (who had it coming), never enables his emo attitude, always tells it like is>gives Cloud genuinely good advice and unironically has better date scenes that Tifa and the corpseBarret is the best character in the game and my favorite in the franchise up there with Steiner
>>743661385The Hendrik/Jasper scene in Act 3 is genuinely quite touching, I cry evry tiem
>>743628924>twink>black man>asian chick>white chick>furry>young asian chick>quirky chungus>brooding emo>literally meIt's got something for everyone.
Me, my friends, and my absolute bitch of a wife.
>>743660837>I better not be seeing any RPG posts in this RPG thread!
>>743628924My favorite are these. The main trio are definitely my favorite by far tho, alongside Gabo.(Not pictured Kimendoji but he’s also a part of the cast)RIP Tamori Yohsuke, your works brought great joy to my life even now I still think about these characters and series.
>>743661725Benedict is a champ.
>>743632514Absurdly goated party
>>743628924It's gotta be really fucking close. Im sure I'll think of a stronger one, or at least an equally good one, but I'm blanking at the moment.
>>743630491This could have been a strong cast but Carol brings the average down too hard
>>743661456At least it isn't as bad as ffxii party when it comes to multiple races.
>FF7>Chrono Trigger>Tales of Vesperia>Persona 3These are the best JRPG parties because they have a cool animal buddy as a member. Xenogears doesn’t count because Chuchu is an abomination and the anti-Christ.
CROSSBELL PRIDEROSSBELLPRIDE
>>743632839I like the Scions but they’re pretty visually uninteresting on hair color alone
Posting two of my favorites.I love how immature Rex/Nia/Tora/Poppi are, how aloof Pyra and Mythra are, and how Zeke/Morag/Dromarch/Gramps serve as mentor figures while also still being influenced by Rex's optimism.
>>743661837like the cutsie art what game are these characters from
>>743662420CT doesn’t have an animal part member what are you smoking?
Trails in the Sky. Probably my favorite.Two of the greatest protagonists in JRPG history with Estelle and Kevin. Nearly the entire party is interesting in their own right and has fun/intriguing characterization.The lead up to the final mission where the whole team is getting ready and training is a great moment.
>>743662598Ayla
>>743628924I would go as far as to say it is the best party in gaming historyMaybe mass effect 2 might come close. They are all so memorable.
>>743662449Is the dog a party member?
>>743662717ME1 has a better party than 2 by virtue of not having Jacob
>>743662575Popolocrois Monogatari 2, the party in the first game is the first four
>>743661972You take that back. Karol is the GOAT. For starters, his little bro/big bro dynamic with Yuri is adorable. He's always excited when talking about guild, while Yuri ignores him. Until Yuri watches Nan absolutely ripping Karol's heart into pieces and humiliating him in front of everyone. Then Yuri is like: "you know what? I think will join your guild, Karol. Let's ignore bitches and acquire currency". It's really heartwarming. Karol has great admiration for Yuri, while Yuri calls him "Captain Karol" and lets Karol roleplay as their guild leader. It's really sweet.Karol has great chemistry with the entire cast. From Rita being a bratty mean sister, Estelle rooting for Karol to win over Nan, Karol blushing with Judith's hotness, Karol trying to convince Flynn that Yuri is a good person and that he shouldn't be punished, etc.Not to mention, Karol has a Klonoa outfit, which makes him a must have party member IMO.
>>743662598https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog
>>743662849I was kinda pissed that Karol steals the muscleman archetype from the cast purely to subvert expectations (like most of the cast does in their own way desu) however he grew on me for all the reasons you stated. My favorite thing about Karol is probably his unique way of healing the party though, characters like that are always more fun to play, especially if you play the game multiplayer
>>743628924>>743629206So if these two groups fought who would win?
This is the ideal party composition.You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>743652679>He wonHow? His entire career consists of talking about a game he doesn't like.Every single time a he posts a video about something else, the views fucking tank.
Surprisingly robust and interesting party for an NES game. I’ve never played the party chat restoration mod for the DS version so I don’t know how well they’re fleshed out but I think they’re still the top DQ party.
>>743663058I'll give Yuffie the edge in a traditional fight, especially with the shit she can do in Rebirth.But the shit Rikku can pull off with Mix, and some of her dress spheres is absolutely broken, and could easily give her the edge.
>>743629206'Big sis' Lulu and 'bodyguard' Kimahri could have been rolled into a single character - but beyond that small nitpick, a stellar cast all round.
>>743663058FF7's party unfortunately does mog FFX's but i feel like tidus and auron could wipe out most of FF7's party with some quick hit/hastega shenanigans
>>743663249>we were denied a giant woman in goth lingerie with a spear
>>743628924Had to uninstall ff7 from my switch 2 to make room for warframe
>>743663156Shit, forgot my image.
>>743663058That depends on whether Yuna has enough cash to pay him to wipe out the FFVII group single handedly. Otherwise the power levels in pretty much every case are higher in VII.
>>743663058Whoever gets to watch.
>>743663617Shit forgot my image
>>743663058Vincent solos
>>743628924I don't know if they're the best but they're easily the best Final Fantasy party. Everyone of them has their own arcs and importance in the plot which is impressive considering Yuffie and Vincent are optional. First time I played the game and Yuffie had what was basically a mini episode and story stealing your materia was crazy especially in the 90s>>743629206Tidus is shit, worst protagonist in the seriesLulu is barely a characterKhimari has one arc and I would put him below Red XIII or Cait Sith
>>743663674Tidus is one of the best protagonists in the series. Your opinion is shit.
>>743663058except it's not groups it's just riku and yuffie, and it's like La Blue Girl
>>743663739He's not. You could have removed him and had Yuna as the protagonist and nothing would have changed. Which is funny considered how many times he kept saying it was "his story" and Yuna even calls him out on it.
Every Jrpg party needs>The big guy>The pet>The annoying mascot
>>743663851>>The pet>>The annoying mascotThese are usually one in the same.
>>743628924Correct
>>743632514I'm playing through VII now and just got the boat, I wish the party had at least a couple more members. It feels kind of underwhelming to have my party already be full even before the world opened up but I also don't know how much more of the game I have left
>>743663825Yuna would just turn Kimahri into an aeon and repeat the cycle without Teedus though
>>743663825Yuna has no way to break free of the chains of tradition that bound her on her own. They needed an outsider's perspective, willingness to question and challenge the accepted dogma. No one else in the party could bring that to the same degree Tidus could.
>>743663851Every JRPG needs:>the cute girl>the beautiful girl>the sexy girl
>>743630792>so stupid they didn't even think to fly to Mordor
>>743663674Yuffie and Vincent unironically have more relevance and character development than most of VIII and IX's cast
>>743628924No it's a soulless slochy mockery of the once endearing FF7 party.made to appeal to the trashiest low IQ audience possible. As they ruin every aspect of the character and turn them into slochy, marketable prostitutes and anime tropes with no humanity or genuineness."smile and look at the camera for the 1000th time sephiroth, make sure to look as homosexual and non-threatening as possible"
>>743639106that one is god tier design
>>743630792Ned Stark think he part of the team
>>743663671Superhuman speed, eternal youth, and rapid regeneration is nothing when faced with hawaiian with a football. It's impossible to remain edgy in his presence. Checkmate, yah?
>>743664019Do Indians even have money to buy games? Why are they pandering to the Bollywood crowd?
>>743664019
>>743663058Yuna easily solos
>>743629206>"muh daddy">"I WANNA GO HOME">"I WAS A STAR PLAYER OF BLITZBALL DON'T YOU KNOW?!">"THIS IS MY STORY WAAAAHHHH"Tidus was a faggot and the only reason he got Yuna was because she was a sheltered church girl who would have fucked the first chad she saw
>>743664056Good point. He also banged Lulu so he might know a thing or two about handling edgelords. Funny how Wakka and Vincent are basically the same archetype combat wise, the "hunter" class.
>>743663993
>>743664081Anon, Chaos Vincent can wipe out all life on the Planet.
>>743664019>Song and dance numbersThey really wanted to bring in the faggot audience with this, huh?
>>743633032Mrgrgr
>>743664019That's kinda what drives me nuts about the redo. Sephiroth in the OG was used really, really sparingly for a long way in. They kept hinting and demonstrating what a monster the fucker was, but you rarely ever actually saw him. It was a really effective way to build up his menace.Sephiroth in remake/rebirth feels like Cloud's estranged lover, always showing up to smile and taunt him with how great his life's going or some shit like that. Despite all the shit he's doing, I've never felt an ounce of actual narrative threat from him. Only meta-threat from what a bitch he usually is to fight.
>>743635605I liked that you were basically playing the villains who didn't give a fuck.>>743656828>>743646430Combat is a slog and you'll be doing the same things you were doing at the beginning of the game at the end of the game. Only worth finishing if you want to see Velvet's resolution.
>>743664256Actually FF7og was what brought in the faggot audience.At least according to FF6 fans back in the day.
>>743664225>Dirge bullshitNot canon. Yuna still clears by spamming each summon overdrive back to back.
>>743664002it's a shame 9 drops the ball as hard as it does on character subplots, though for some of them like freya their subplots aren't particularly interesting
>>743664356Which is pretty ironic, considering how much Saben/Edgar yaoi there used to be back then.
>>743664081I dunno, Yuna's summons all get their shit pushed in by Kasumi and a bunch of her clones in Dead Fantasy
>>743664256Nomura desperately wanted to turn FF VS into a musical.The higher-ups said "no that's fucking stupid" and it wasn't long before he was kicked off the project for mismanagement.So as pay back he ruined FF7R by turning it into a cringey musical for autistic toddlers.
>>743664382Yuna can only use Bahamut Cloud has Neo Bahamut and Bahamut ZERO. Their names are much cooler so clearly they're much stronger.Yuna = Mega FlareCloud = Giga and Tera FlareOnly Donald Duck's Zetta Flare can defeat them.
>>743639967>>743638831>>743638636Investigation Team are the best party and it's not even close.
>>743664442some of those dead fantasy wins were baffling
>>743664442Yeah, but dead fantasy turned a german tomboy karateka into a superpowered shonen anime heroine, so I think we can safely write all that shit out of the equation.
>>743659658There were gypsie strippers in Sailor Moon?
>>743642668They aren't even a "party" for over half the game.
>>743664019Faggotry Trantasy was always for fags
>>743629206>GoodTidusAuronWakkaRikku>OkayLulu>BoringYunaKimhariSo, mostly good, but FF7's still mogs
>>743664684The only thing ff7 mogs anything at is sucking cock >>743664019
>>743661837How? They never even released in the west.
>>743664019This is why I only play Chinese and Korean games, Japshit is all cringe and spiritually Indian.
>>743664684yuna gets elevated because interpreting the summoner job as a kaiju battle makes her the most interesting summoner in the entire franchise
>>743664776>Japshit is all cringe and spiritually Indian.Holy shit, this
>>743663091Those extra fighters will have no equipment and be less effective than monks.
>>743664817i read this as impregnating the summoner lmao
>>743664554Nakajima and Yumiko are the only party members I need.I wish they adapted the actual novels, instead of being fanfiction like MT1.
>>743664776Its pretty sad how far Japan has fallen
>>743664904Japshit was never good
>>743664817Yuna sucks, anon. Stop trying to force it.
>>743628924No.
>>743634271>See, she HAS to be boring in order to keep the group grounded! That's why she's not boring! She's the responsible one!Quirks are what make characters entertaining. The only reason Tifa doesn't fall prey to Leonardo syndrome is because she's a cute girl with massive titties. If she were a male character, she'd be the least popular member of the cast, completely overshadowed by the more bombastic character archetypes.
Kill all FFtroons
Post bad RPG parties>old characters are brought back but do fucking nothing in the new game>Kiryu is brought back only for his character to be raped
>>743664863tidus can but try>>743664946her job carries her so fucking hard it propels her straight into good
>>743665053Believe it or not, most people aren't into retarded cringeshit animu characters like Yuffie.>b-but muh titiesBelieve it or not, more (straight) women like Tifa than your garbage waifu.
>>743665123>>743628924
How has no one posted Xenoblade 2's party?
>>743665123This is 2nd worst>>743642668This is worst
>>743665281This is an FFag thread so they have no taste
>>743665281>>743662525
Out of the way losers
>>743663969>They needed an outsider's perspective, willingness to question and challenge the accepted dogmaAuron?
>>743665620auron's opinion is respected but he also knows tidus has a higher chance of actually getting the lesson to stick than he does
>>743665620Auron is literally the biggest insider out if the entire party.
>>743651392lot more virgin incels these days
>>743664946>Repeatedly tops favorite FF character chartsI think you may just have shitty taste. Stay away from the Summoner
>>743665620how would Auron fair against swordsman Sephiroth?
>>743665281I like them individually, but they don't have that much chemistry. Especially Morag and Zeke. They're both really cool characters, but I don’t see them hanging out with a dork like Rex.
>>743665778>Hey Mòrag, how about next time you put on a skirt and some heels?>How about you die in a fire, Zeke.
>>743665620Auron isn't an outsider. He was a warrior monk of Yevon before joining Braska. He only went to Dream Zanarakand for Tidus. His faith was shaken by the reality that was revealed to him by Yunalesca but again, without his promise to Jecht to look out for Tidus he dies after she strikes him down and doesn't have the driving cause to become Unsent and turns into a fiend.
>>743665724Hard to say.Sephiroth got bodied by an injured, un-enhanced Cloud (I really hope we get some sort of explanation for this in Revelation), which Auron is definitely stronger than, but but that is also an obvious outlier when it comes to Sephiroth's capabilities.
>>743665660He's an outsider in that he knows the church's teachings are all bullshit and he's been and lived in "Zanarkand".
>>743628924>>743629206>>743630792>>743633032>>743633695>>743635605>>743638636>>743639967>>743639106>>743638876GET.MOGGED!
>>743665724A better comparison for Auron would be vs Cloud, as they're both heavy cleaver-type sword-wielders. Still, since Cloud is shown as able to duel with Sephiroth in later encounters, his speed would overwhelm Auron, as would Seph's. Tidus is not a polished swordsman. He'd stand no chance.
>>743630560>>743659256>>743658592FFVII's story literally doesn't exist without Tifa. She's Cloud's entire reason for joining Shinra and "SOLDIER"
>>743665923Without his promise to Jecht he likely dies before ever being found by Kimahri and turns into a fiend.
>>743664765Theres a fan translation for the first and second game (also poporogue). Also the first and second game did make it to the west as the butchered remaster for psp that shortens both the first and second game to fit them into 1.We also got the farming one in 3ds. The only pieces of popolocrois media thats not in english are the ps2 games focusing on Pinon, Narcias tears and the fairy’s flute and the novels Yohsuke wrote before dying that told the story of a young white knight before he goes traveling for the king knights sword.
>>743665696That's easy when Lulu and Rikku do jackshit for the entire game. And then they replace Lulu with fucking Paine in the sequel, LMAO.The one and only reason Yuna stands out is because she has no one to compete for the spotlight. Some was talking about the Xenoblade 2 party, Both Pyra and Mythra are GOATed waifus, and Nia, Poppi, Mòrag are all great too. Very hard to stand out when you have competition like this.Yuna only has to compete with the likes of Brighid, who is very much like Lulu, a 10/10 sexy mommy character that doesn't really do much except being hot, and Pandora, who like Rikku is ugly and annoying but has fans for some reason.
>>743628924Too furry. Too old. Too much of a sausage party after Aerith dies. I would say DQXI or Shadow Hearts Covenant
Hot and sweaty sex with Yuffie.That is all.
2026.... we are forgotten...
>>743666380it's been forever but I only remember them (from left to right) as >healer church girl>generic protagonist>tomboy >asshole>generic ladies manand Luna being a goddess
>>743665917given the Turks aren't modified in any way and barret, yuffie, cid and tifa can keep up with cloud, i think it's more the idea over time that SOLDIERs aren't as much of a boost as hojo and shinra want to believe they are
>>743666213Nothing wrong with that
Do zoomers even play JRPGs nowaday?In a way I don't blame them. There's really no choices other than the big releases while the SNES-PS3 era had literally way too many to play always dropping at once
>>743666567depends, do you mean JRPG as RPG games developed in japan or do you mean turn-based games
>>743666559this bitch should have been optional so I could avoid her
>>743652679His career will end when revelation comes out and Max will still rake in hundreds of thousands of viewers faggot zoomer
>>743666635Play the original and you can. She and Vincent aren't even in any of the cutscenes.
>>743652679he's right in that 12-16 are trash but making your entire appeal doomposting won't last forever and E33 is not that good
>>743666795eventually he'll run out of shit to doompost about and he'll move on to culture war garbage, seen it hundreds of times
Why does Tifa upset trannies so much?
>>743666851He’s definitely getting there. His audience will collapse in on itself soon enough.
>>743666889Because she’s an adult and not one of their favourite pedo bait persona characters.
>>743666889is it really a mystery when everybody screeches about tifa's tits being too small in remake/rebirth, when they're the biggest they've ever been in a game since the goofy gravure model poses in FF7 CGs and ergheiz?
>>743628924>not even half of the group have amy sort of relevance >horrible balancing No
>>743666962>not even half of the group have amy sort of relevanceHave you played FF7? It's the one FF game where every character has at least one point in the story where they're relevant
>>743664594it really wouldn't be that out of place in the show. Sailor moon had some weird shit.
>>743632514>>743630616>>743659209>Dragon Ball samefaces
>>743667031>at least one point in the story where they're relevantIt was more a plot hitch hiking than real relevance
>>743650983one had a 20 minute live segment dedicated to it and shown to 10s of millions of people, uploaded to dozens of channels in the millions of views, while the other was in something no one watched and can only be seen in one place. despite the higher "view" count, p4r still has way less likes and comments. explain that kekkers (definitely not bought/ad fed views).
>>743667151honestly this. There's a reason Yangus is the best DQ party member, its the only time Toriyama thought to draw a new character. I know people love the guy's art, but i've never thought his character designs were anything but a hindrance for the games he worked on, his monster designs are great fun though.
I hate that JRPGs seem impenetrable as you get older. I played a shit ton when I was younger but a game taking potentially months to complete since you can only play maybe a couple of hours after work (and that's WITH competing with other games) just seems more and more unviable as you age
>>743667342JRPGs are the most cost effective video games you can buy as an adult. You buy Persona 6 when it comes out, it's gonna be a 90 hour game. You put in just 1 hour a day after work, that's the only game you'll have to spend on for 90 days.
I've always felt like the Tales games have S-tier casts stuck in C-tier games. Probably a consequence of the skits system where you get to see the cast constantly talk about random minutiae they come across at your leisure.
>>743667405You're right in that aspect but if you want to experience a lot of things they suck because they take so much time
>>743667551I'm a weird Tales fan in that I've only completed Hearts R and Berseria but I've got over halfway through Abyss and at least started Symphonia. I would agree with you though, the skits really allow the party members to interact with each other for even the most meaningless thing which is something you don't see in other RPGs. But yeah the games stories along with dungeons and enemy designs are very mediocre I would say.
>>743667342It took me 6 months to complete Xenoblade 3 and I was still missing shit by the time I was done. It feels like, after becoming an adult, it's harder and harder to get engrossed into new worlds. What's doubly strange is that it's far easier for me to notice details in older games I grew up with now.
If you want a good jrpg cast, look up Quiet Girls on dlsite
I feel ripped off I never got to go on an adventure with my friends and one extra guy who I hate but who I come to understand later on
>>743628924the original, not the reboot shiteither way I don't think so
>>743628924It's hard to view their characterizations only keeping the original game in mind and not the spinoffs and other games they've all been in.I would still say for the era, no other JRPG party came close. The SNES and Genesis era almost had throwaway party members that would join and battle but stopped being characters after that (Phantasy Star games). FFVII gave all of them not only a backstory but actual character moments in the plot. Well if you actually recruited Yuffie and Vincent that is
>>743668930For the most part I feel like Remake kept certain personalities intact. It's one of the few things I praise about the game but there are instances where I can see SE belt sanding the edges off other characters. Cid has been criticized to death and I agree with them. Dyne has also been criticized and I agree with that too. But I see less people talking about how Yuffie has been made more empathetic. In Corel Barret tells his story about how he was deceived by Shinra leading to his town burning down. In OG Yuffie says>Yuffie>I'm not sympathizing with Barret! He never should have trusted Shinra, Inc. ...Kind of bitchy but that's Yuffie in OG. She's a short sighted, petulant brat. But you're supposed to like Yuffie so in Remake she says this>Yuffie: Was it Scarlet? It was, wasn't it?>Barret: Yeah...>Yuffie: That bitch>Cloud: I don't get it. Why burn the whole town?>Barret: To craft a story- that it was all the work of a "local insurgent group." But ain't no villager ever gone near the reactor. They lied right through their teeth>Yuffie: Murderers...I get what they're going for. Yuffie is currently suffering with losing her home the same way Barret lost his. By why remove the brat response entirely? Why not have Yuffie respond as a bratty child, get corrected by one of the more mature party members, and then have a growth moment?
>>743628924Cait, Yuffie and Vincent don't really fit at all. They're superfluous. X is better.
>>743639106>Boss joins the party>Is absolute dogshitI still cannot forgive CT for this
>>743669327Why? Cait is Reeve and is the antithesis of Barret. If Barret brings up how being a freedom fighter doesn't make him all good then Reeve brings up how being a corpo shithead doesn't make him all bad. They even have a conversation highlighting this in game>Cait Sith>What was that scratching just now!?>As long as Marlene is safe, who cares what else happens, right?>I been itchin' to say this to ya fer a while now!>When ya blew the Midgar No. 1 up, how many folks d'ya think died?>Barret>...that was for the life of the planet. Ya gotta expect a few casualties.>Cait Sith>A few? Whaddya mean 'a few'? What may be a few to y'all is everythin' to them who died......>Protect the planet. Hah! Y'all sure sound good!>Ain't no one that'd go against ya. So ya think ya can do whatever y'all want?>Barret>I don't wanna hear that from no one in Shinra...>Cait Sith>......nuthin' I can do 'bout that...>Cloud>Stop it!>Tifa>Cait Sith...... Barret, he knows what he did.>What we did in Midgar can't be forgotten no matter what the reason.>[She turns to Barret.]>Tifa>Right? We haven't forgotten, right?>[She turns back to Cait Sith.]>Tifa>I know you.>You can't quit the company because you're worried about the people in Midgar, right?Reeve can protect the people of Midgar and Barret can't. Barret got a shitload of people killed over an ideology that ended up being a cover for his actual motivations. What's more Reeve actually bends over backwards to earn forgiveness for being a spy. He's the one who rescues Barret and Tifa from their execution. He supplies intel about Shinra's movements and large Materia. He notifies the party about the Sister Ray endangering Midgar. Why is that bad?
*MOGS YOU*
>>743665620Auron is just a Guts ripoff.
>>743642668This desu. You can use all of them and all of them are fun to play. But rebirth made ff7 castle also more likeable.
>>743669327Also Yuffie brings up a totally different argument about how Shinra erases history. Did you know Midgar used to be a collection of villages? >The 8 Reactors provide Midgar with electricity.>Each town used to have a name, but no one in Midgar remembers them.>Instead of names, we refer to them by numbered sectors. That's the kind of place this is.It happened in Junon too, they were a fishing village. Remember when that village burned down and Shinra memory holed the entire event? No not Nibelheim, I'm talking about Corel although it happened there too. Icicle Area was once called Knowlespole. Even the Lifestream was rebranded to Mako. So when Yuffie decides she's going to do everything she can to kick Shinra out of Wutai, she has a lot of good reason for that. How long until Wutai loses its name too?
>>743628924Just ignore the guy on the left. He's the main antagonist but you spend considerable time playing from his perspective too.
>>743653695Farm midgets are a good class for activating arena gimmicks. Good passivess too. >S Luck>S Eva>Good stealth and mobility in battle>Morale boosts at camp with cooking, singing, and camaraderie
>>743649419Are you trolling
>>743650885Ultimate Surrender Rules.
>>743649419Whatever
>>743669241Yuffie has much more growth in Remake and Rebirth than in the OG, where's she's a one dimensional, irrelevant, and annoying nothing character.She's naive and foolish but also clearly means well. Her brattiness and obssession with materia is balanced by her capacity for kindness.Yuffie's remarks about death at Cosmo Canyon reveal the feelings she is hiding in Nibelheim.
>>743633223Same. And there's nothing wrong with that.
>>743628924xv mogs
>>743664019This game was a mistake
>>743629206FPBP. It’s not even debatable, it’s a fucking flawless party.
>>743663058If by fight you mean Rikku and Yuffie wrestling covered in oil, then we win.
>>743632839they look like generic mmo characters
>>743642668Had potential, but arguably the worst in execution.
>>743664382>>743664549Just use Yojimbo hax
>>743665620>Younger than Tidus when I first played FFX>Older than Auron now
>>743669570I see what you did there
>>743666091No his main reason is getting accepted by everyone since he is an outcast. He wants to be like the hero sephiroth since everyone likes him.
>>743658592This.
>>743629206so true
>Used to love RPG parties>Now prefers lone MC due to Soulslike exposure.Bros... how do I get back?
>>743666091>Hans joined hitler youth for frieda to notice him
Test
>>743674714Tifa was not WRITTEN into the early drafts, and was a literal HoneyBeeInn cheap whore (before the sloppy whitewashing in the last 2 monthes of 1996) after she's shoved into ff7 universe from that 1993(97-4) porn game >>743564718 where Nomura plagiarized her from.https://www.nicozon.net/player.html?video_id=sm14381614If it's >>743666091 ff7 would be a Bahamut Lagoon-tier NTR story to begin with:>I'm joining Shinra to impress a literal HoneyBeeInn cheap whore in the future.
>Tifa was not WRITTEN into the early drafts. >>743677780
>>743676958based hans
>>743628924>Is this the best JRPG party ever made?Yes. And it isn't even close.
>>743672410Go to bed, Barry.
My wife
>>743677780what is this schizo post
>>743672410>Here's your metrosexual J-Rock band, goy>Enjoy!
>>743667342reading makes me wonder if anyone here knows any short jrpg worth playing like thats mario rpg or panzer dragoon saga thats around 15 or less than 20 hours long
>>743630491there's a tragic lack of quadruped romance options
>>743682680Golden Sun 1
>>743657020I really liked his little speech he gives just before the yunalesca zombie bullshit fight. It feels like a strong anchor to the "you're breaking the script shit's about to get real" moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoAk8s3H4u0"Die and be free of pain, or live to fight the sorrow from MGS3" goes hard too.
>>743683373Challenge is a banger of a track too>>743683309>Isaac>Big dumb Isaac>Little smart Isaac>GirlWow
>>743683373great moment that I had to hear like 10 times as a kid playing the game because the cutscene was unskippable lol
>>743681791Every single FF thread has an Aerith fag who is deeply obsessed with dead girl jokes and hates Tifa so much that he spends every single waking moment seething about Tifa. If he sees Tifa, he will start sperging out about Tifa, every single time.Tifa doesn't even need to be brought up, as long as it's FFVII it will show it's face.
>>743666889It's a popularity contest. Humans thrive on popularity. It gives them authority, if they have it.Popular for sex, popular for power, popular for wisdom, popular for relateability, politicians make their career on being popular. Even most of /v/ will scream>MY CONSOLE>NO, MY CONSOLE>PC PC PCout of desire for popularity. Everyone wants authority, and popularity gives that.
>>743681791Something you illiterates never heard from other illiterates living in the shithole with you.In deactivated "early" dialogue events, like this one in mtcrl_9, you can have a glimpse of the jealous little bitch nature of this plagiarized Hgame cheap whore before sloppy whitewashing. >>743677780Tifa in other word, originally a stereotypical 噛ませ幼馴染み type character.
Lets just say that I always have Yuffie and Rikku in my parties in 7 and 10 if you know what I mean.
>>743685251You like to battle characters directly before they join the party, got it.
>>743629206>boring cast carried by auron and wakkanah fuck off
Outta the way nerds for a real party.
Why is mental illness so pervasive across all JRPG series?
>>743685332Lets just say I really like their movesets if you get what I'm saying.
>>743685443Ah, High SPD/EVA and low damage/multi hit attacks.
>>743684470this but opposite
>>743685397>Why is mental illness so pervasive across all>stories?>In every culture throughout all of humanity's history?>Including JRPG series?Well, two shared reasons, really:• Mental illness is common. Nearly ALL humans suffer (or will suffer) a mental illness, especially noticeable with the elderly.• It's very relatable to any person who hears, reads, or makes a story. A convenient tool to express ideas.
>>743667551Every JRPG needs skits or something like them. DQ has the party chat but the only game I've played that straight up has Tales skits 1:1 is this Wii game, and yeah, I liked the game's party much more as a result. You can shove so much personality into your characters you otherwise couldn't with just the main story
>>743629206FPBP
>>743684931Seethe again, deadgirl fag
>>743686489better than being cuckgirl fag
>he seethed againDeadgirl fags are so insecure
>>743667342>just bought Legend of Mana, Trials of Mana and FFXII on that sale >already have Grandia 1+2 that I haven't beaten>all are going to rotAt least I'm finally getting nearly done with Rebirth.
>>743682680Witchspring R
i am treating this as a JRPG threadi am finally playing XB1, just got Melia. it's a crime this series is in tendie hell based on what i've played so far
>>743686841I've finished both XC1 and 2 this year and yeah Monolith is being held back by Nintendo hardware. XC1 running on a Wii is insane.
>>743685814I mean the fanbases. Every JRPG fan, no matter what game they like, is schizo including me
>>743628924Persona 3 will always be the bestEvery character is sensible, has intertwining relationships, and has a purpose for the narrative and overall message of the gameFF7 is good but arguably Cait Sith, Yuffie, and Vincent do fuck all (Cait is important for a bit, Vincent’s only importance is vague hints at his previous life, and Yuffie is a joke with no development)
>>743629206MY NIGGER
>>743662525Based came to post this image
>>743628924not bad>>743629206kino>>743630616the party is ok, but the game is very bad>>743630792winner>>743635605the worst in the thread this looks like some anime porn game>>743638323very bad>>743639106absolutely kino variety and composition>>743642668terrible>>743646430never seen anime art this basicAll atlas games have nice art but none have memorable parties imo.
>>743647680if you dont count all other parties in existence, yeah i guess
>>743664907gayest faggot shit ever
>>743628924Nah, only Cloud and Aerith are really good here. Maybe Yuffie, but being missable is a huge negative.This anon is right >>743629206
>>743663935I assume you meant VIII, the boat is pretty early on. The 3DS version has more party members but they can feel a bit superfluous given how late they join
OG Monster Trio
>>743642668Oh we're posting the worst ones now? Allow me.
>>743635605>Ahh the edgy acts like bombastic anti social posers but are comet nt Mary sues in their own right. Bad taste
>>743684117Golden Sun's characters and writing kind of trash but the dungeon design still hasn't been matched in any other game that isn't Zelda
I'll end this thread with a party that is very close to perfect, if it weren't for the last three members it would have been PERFECT.
>>743663091It's almost the best. It's Warrior Warrior Warrior White Mage. But Warrior Warrior Warrior Warrior is also extremely good for casual play you will only have trouble vs Chaos if he heals.>>743628924FF7 fags are posers you are not a real Final Fantasy fan
>>743628924>>743629206>>743630616>>743633032>>743635605These are my favorite pictures. If anyone has more of these where it shows the entire party that's recruitable and it's official artwork, please post more.
>>743688091too bloated
>>743687982barry won
>>743638636>Lame ass anti hero pretenders trying to be cool kid scooby doo gang but more overly boring and elitist jap slop.Plz seek help
>>743642668I like Lightning a lot she is my waifu but>diversityigger in the partythis was the start of DEI I know that he is a somewhat intersting character with the father character arc and all that but he becomes a joke in FF13-2 and FF13 LRalso Hope should have stabbed Snow in the skull and twisted the knife. It would have made the story more interesting.
>>743687982>>743672410>>743664907>>743642668There should be essays on how shit FF parties got post X
>>743684117>Challenge is great, I don't think it does it perfectly but it does make a decent attempt of thematically representing the end of tradition and rising of discord, like the gloves are coming off (though really seymour, & that weird dragon fight for many seem to be a big jump in difficulty if you were like 10-15 at the time, or uh, like 17 for me jesus. But it's a banger anyway so who cares for the retard microanalysis.
>>743628924
>>743688178true. Mog,Gau,Gogo,Umaro and arguably Shadow add nothing to the story.
>>743628924Fuck all of you
>>743688336remove Vaan and Penelo and this party is pretty cool. Square Enix was afraid of making a story that Teens were "not going to relate to". Turns out nobody liked Vaan. He is just fucking Aladin but gay looking, a peasant poorfag from Dalmasca.
>>743684283Me too, at least the very first time when I was still using the fucking tutorial sphere grid and didn't know the half a billion fucking ways to break the game, but me too bud.
>>743688336>There should be essays on how shit FF parties got post VI*fixed for you
For laughs' sake, this game and cast are so underrated that it's hard to find party images from the game rather than the anime. Mistwalker are idiots who never ported the game outside of xbox.
>>743688561Aeris
>>743688318lighting design is bizzare she manges to not be ugly or good looking like no amount of sexy pics like these makes her actually sexy or cute
>>743688419>add nothing to the story.Gau has a cool backstory and it's the monkey boy mascotte:3, shadow saves everyone and helps on several occasions, only the other three are useless.
>>743688318>diversityigger in the partyToken niggers are fine and have been around forever. Sazh was the only thing resembling a human in that party of autistic retards. Only played 13 though so maybe they fucked him in the other games.
>>743688574I think no one in America played this game and even the people who wanted to play it in Japan because of Toriyama didn't own Xboxes
>>743688561not pictured
>>743688318DEI started in VIIThe protagonist is a cuck, his childhood friend is a slut, there's the token nigger in the party, and there's one used goods that Sephiroth fucks so fucking hard that it blows her chest out (in front of the cuck)Everything started going to shit after going to 3D
>>743687596>>743648357Probably the gayest takes in the entire thread so far.Tifa > Aerith in every single way and it's not even close.It might be bias from the GameFAQs days, but every time I see an Aerith fag, I assume it's a femcel or a troon.But yes, I'm aware there are Tifa troons as well nowadays. But let's be real, they're in every fandom these days. Sad times we live in.
>>743688638Lightning is supposed to fit every type of style. I like the versatility. She is not supposed to be a cute kawaii infatilized girl like Vanille or a rugged tarzan like woman like Fang. She is more like a fashion model meant to wear all kinds of fits and pull them off. And she is also a hebephile.
>>743688761Which is sad. I consider it better than many post-2005 JRPGs. Its main problem is the somewhat childish dialogue.
>>743688802>hope was reaching for her assI saw it, dont think I didnt notice
>>743688638you are so fucking gay
>>743688768I want to shoot in the face with a comically large gatling gun-arm that never runs out of bullets anyone who dares to insult Barret.Barret is the GOAT, you apologize right now, sir.
>>743688792Aerith > Tifa in every way Tifags are all ugly racemixning subhumans
>>743666559>this bitch should have been optional so I could avoid her
>>743688903she had more cake in FF13-1 I swear oh well.
>>743689005>this bitch should have been optional so I could avoid her
>>743665614I'm still so fucking mad
>>743685382underrated take. those 3 have a very good team chemestry going on. the goofball veteran, the edgy boy and the cute girlbut its too small to be a party
>>743664907straightest hetero shit ever
>>743664019>This is why I only play Chinese and Korean games, Japshit is all cringe and spiritually Indian.
>>743688561From stinkiest to least stinky:Terra: Takes care of children in Mobliz, with no access to clean water. Probably has diarrhea frequently. Not to mention she's a half beast, so she probably shits like a cow. The stinkestTifa: Lives in the slums, runs a bar. Probably has diarrhea from beer consumption. Very stinky wet farts, up there with Terra.Yuna: She eats Japanese food. They have long lifespans so I assume that's a good thing. Not stinky.Aerith: Also lives in the slums, probably eats whatever crap she finds on the streets. However, just like flowers grow in her church, her farts probably smells like flowers miraculously. Rinoa: I'm sure she has her own chef to cook healthy meals for her. Even when she does have stinky farts, they'll probably give her a medicine or something to fix that. She's basically a princess.
>>743664019>Clouds facethat was my reaction from all that too
>>743688509No thank you. Penelo is way too sexo
>>743689538she but she is niche and Penelo doesnt make sense without Vaan so either you have Vaan or you dont have Pene-Low
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>>743664776>>743664819>>743664904>>743664938FF7 Remake is spiritually westoid, there's barely anything Japanese left in it. literally not a JRPG
>>743664907I'm not ashamed to admit on an anonymous imageboard that I only play Final Fantasy for the cute girls in my party.
>>743688509Vaan is a Chad
>>743689726Ashe is my #3 best FF girl. She's very underrated and along with Balthier they pretty much carry FFXII on their backs.
>>743689735/thread
>>743642668Gay and the reiq Pic Lightning x Snow cursed me from ever enduring me to this cast.
>>743689752based
>>743689453based
>>743689814cute
>>743689735Nah, Japshit was always cringe
>>743689814giwtwm
>>743689931>Nomura watches: Charlie's Angels
>>743647680Style over Substance and not even that stylish, since ff7 are more cooler and more adult that a bunch of edgy zoomer dropouts that have the personality of a fanfiction goth phase. Like someone said, their the poser version of the investigation squad in ps4.
>>743689735>Nah, Japshit was always cringe
it alwasy so funny to see ffniggres act like theyre shit never stinked before+
Atlus wonned/thread
>>743689931they ruined Final Fantasy
>>743690252Final Fantasy was never good
>>743690220true and barry won
>>743689931Needs a cloud type character that you an self insert into while having the rest of the party full of girls
>>743690283holly trvke
>>743690283barry alwasy wons+
>>743653963Tales is shit, I agree
>>743690153P5 cast is effortlessly cool, it's the kind of thing someone could see walking outside and not find strange.FF is overdesigned and tries too hard to look cool, like a bunch of cringe cosplayers, and all the characters act like they're in a low-budget Marvel movie.
>>743690397https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfmRA9YQCzY
>>743690473>>743690153
If we have to factor in the party system mechanics of the game, I think that strongly rules out FFVII as a contender for the GOAT party, even if the cast itself is great. Dynamic party mechanics are a must, such as games like FFX and the Persona series.At least the WORST party is easy: FFXII. Awful cast, awful quest, beyond awful mechanics. It's even somewhat fails at the waifu criteria, and that's basically a freebie for JRPGs.
>>743690273FF5
>>743690587DQ did better job systems even at the time+
>>743690119X-2 was made by Motomou ToriyamaHe began his career at Square by creating the Honey Bee scenario in FF7He then went on to make X-2 aka a fan service game with sexy transforming maho shoujo girlsThen he wrote Parasite Eve Third Birthday, where the protagonist Aya Brea acted like a weak, moaning, doujin heroine with destructible clothing and sexy fetishistic outfits (it also turned out that she was a 13 year old girl trapped in adult woman's body)Then he made the FF13 trilogy where he created his perfect kuudere waifu Lightning, who in the final third game not only could change into different sexy fetishistic outfits like in X-2 but also ended her story becoming a real person in the real world. Like literally, Toriyama put her in real fashion commercials and also made an entire live presentation with roses where he talked for hours in front of cameras about how much he loves Lightning to deathHe's the biggest otaku coomer at Square Enix
>>743665281Lame and stereotypical Shonen shit
>>743690636Nope. In FF5 at the end you can make your own custom class because very job class that you master can have it's abilities inherited by the Freelancer or the Mimic. You can have a Time White Knight Mage if you want. Or a Spellblade Dragoon dual wielding spear ninja.
>>743690320this. can't wait for x-3
>>743690808I could does that shit in dq3 with class changing lmao and that was on nes
>>743690770the character designs are from nomura most of the time because he draws
>>743690770I'm not the first nor the last to say this: BASED TORIYAMA
>>743690770>tfw (You) will never be a giga Chad otaku game director at the biggest Japanese video game company in the world, spending millions of dollars to create your AAA high-budget fetish games with your own perfect waifusToriyama is a God.
>>743691102forgot the pic
>>743690865No you cantwe are not even talking about the same thing, class get inherited when you master a class, its stats, its abilities, etc. When you master a class everything the class is is basically saved in the menu so you can make an amalgamation of that class with whatever other class (or non-class)This is extremely cool because there is a hundred combinatons of custom made classes you can figure out for a single character.
>>743688768Tifa is pure, not a slut.
>>743691420you retard in dq3 you keep any spell learn when class changing and even though stat halfed they still better than starting as other class switch fighter to wizard and wizard can still hit hard switch priest to warrior and warrior still know priest spells holy fuck your stupid
>>743691528you cant we are not even talking about the same thing you are missing the point look. This is what I mean. This system was cool af. Its the best class system ever made in turn based RPGs still to this day. And it was forgotten by Square Enix.
>>743691642same as dq3priest classs change to wizard still knowing priest spells
>>743691704ok. can you make your own custom class end game however you please because every ability you master gets banked in the class menu? No. No you cant. in FF5 you can.
>>743690473>P5 cast is effortlessly coolSaid no one ever, Joker isn't even the coolest persona protagonist, thats Chadakami. Everyone else in ps5 is a dorks, sluts and white previlaged elitists retards. Cloud is the effortlessly cool protagonist because he's more a bad boy than Joker and gets his hands dirty.
>>743691942a bunch of Mexicans think Persona 5 Joker is cool because he is in Smash (they dont know his Japanese name: Ren Amamiya)
>>743691868>can you make your own custom class end game however you pleaseyes>because every ability you master gets banked in the class menu?who cares? i can grinded any party memeber to know all spells from every class
My wife Tifa is the coolest
>>743691942>Cloud is th- AAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEE *explodes*
>The effortlessly cool P5 protag
>>743692063>>743692095Tifa is cooler than both
