AI scheme is falling apart, what now Sony ? Will you still charge 1k for a ps6 ? Also Gayben can now afford another ram stick his machine has missing
>for the sake of semiconductor companieswhat about end consumers huh?
>>743689641you're falling apart2 more weeks and le bubble xDD>some literalwho garbage ""site""
i'm just waiting for anti-ai revolutionary factions to appearthen i'll help infiltrate datacenters to shut them down or whatever but mostly just steal ram
>>743689641That's not something you admit, it's just a fact. Also hardware companies are not fucking suffering because of this, all their shit sells for 10x the price.
>>743689641>in the USthey'll be forced to staff it with diversity hires and it will fail just like last time
>>743689683Normies dont realise 2020 was the end of PC ownership with artificial shortages plus windows 11 turning devices into a pajeet renting-you-your-pc
I don't know what the fuck people are talking about. AI works great and it's not a bubble. I can't even imagine what people are clinging onto that will reveal AI doesn't work, every process at my work is being replaced by a markdown file that replaces a guy who was making 70k. It's completely over this is forever. I'm 100% convinced that mortgages and the housing markets are a time bomb. They're going to abolish white collar work. Humans are like, for carrying boxes now, we are all completely fucked.
>>743689641was a foreseeable strategy. they forced their big clients into 5 year contracts with minimum-order numbers (otherwise their clients get fined for billions) and profit margins around 85%. that's why they kept saying it will never go back down again, to make their clients feel that they either take the deal right now, or a worse deal in the future.now that their business clients are pre-lubed for the next 5 year ass rape, they have to expand production capacities to bring prices down again, or else they will leave their flank wide open for potential competitors.
>>743691846>doing buisiness with Koreansnever would I ever
>>743693697Then make your own chips, western man.
He won???
>>743694304be careful what you ask for, you might get your wish granted
>>743689641if i were valve i would drop steam machine to about 750 to 900 by the end of 2026 lolyoull get way more sales
>>743694304That is the intention. When chip prices are reasonable you can't enter the market because the established manufacturers will out-margin you to get you out of the picture, but when the margin is 10x the manufacturing costs, it is possible to enter the chip scene without it being 100% government-subsidized for the next 20 years. Now to see who's going to capitalize on it. Chinks already have two brand new manufacturers popping up. Americans are still thinking about stuff.
>>743694996They don't control the cost to manufacture, the ram cartel does. If I were valve I would have cancelled the steam machine and the steam frame then made much smaller, weaker ARM version of the steam deck (Nintendo DS sized) that is aimed at running retro and indie games exclusively (if they had balls they would re introduce glassless 3D and push third party depth injection that can be re-used for their VR headsets). I would then re-configure the VR headset to be PCVR only and remove the RAM, storage and chips from it.You have to accept market conditions as they are and provide something of value within that, you cant fight against this tidal wave of shitty overpriced memory.
>>743689641>broken english>hates AI>entirely misconstrues whatever article he struggled to read and thinks it supports his pointyerp. it's a 'dite thread alright.
>>743690498Amazon completely changed the world and there was still a gigantic retarded .com bubble. There has never in living memory been a tech advance that wasn't wildly overinvested in
Always funny how governments and big businesses can't make changes because it's ao complicated and you can't just pull the tooth because it's so important and ingrained.Till it profits them and then they rip the whole jaw out.
>>743690498>AI works great and it's not a bubbleWhy are you people so fucking stupid. how many times do you need to be told that the bubble is financial in nature and whether you find the technology useful has absolutely nothing to do with how profitable major AI companies are (aren't) and how much over investment has occurred.
>>743689641By the time it's built it won't be needed.
The elites don't like how all the retards and turd worlders are abusing tech. It will be a human-only benefit going forward.
>>743690498AI can’t fix HVAC equipment and neither can yuppies. I’m set
>>743689641man, too bad the entire western world abandoned most semiconductor manufacturing on their soil for quarterly profits, nobody could have known 20 years ago that silicon chips would run the world (they already did)
>>743690498TICK TOCK
>>743699212>I ACK NOW, GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY
>>743690498A bunch of "people" (redditors) are emotionally invested in seeing their bogeymen fail. They refuse to accept that Elon Musk is successful, or that nothing bad is going to happen him. Same with Donny or anyone else. So they cling to their >t-two more weeks!narrative. It's rather pathetic.
>>743699212Be real with me, anons. How many of us are going to die? There aren't going to be any jobs left and the rich aren't going to support poor people out of generosity
>>743700924Georgia guidestones
>>743700924You have a body you know?
>>743696139If you use spellcheck or google translate you are literally worse than hitler.
>>743700924the covid vax was meant to kill billions and while we may be more unhealthy I don't think it got anywhere close to thatso I'm kinda hopeful we'll be okay
>>743699330That is actually pretty cool usage of drones. Where are my tree planting drones?
>>743701980haven't seen any of those, just plant harvesters and poison spreaders
>>743689641>in the USwill only make it more expensive
>>743690498Because idiots are trying to shoehorn ai literally fucking everywhere for everything.
>>743689641All of this is just a trojan horse for the real agenda: Reallocate "Semiconductor industry" for weapons manufacturing, for the next World War.That's how we got gaming in the first place. Japan had to continue working in semiconductor factories after they ceased weapons production, because it made the country money, and then that led to the rapid growth in developing microchips and computers, which was also an effective way to not let the tools for war production die off during peace-time, but now they'll need it again.
>>743699161Good luck in the future, man. Everyone I know that did long term HVAC has a fucked up back. I was an electrician for 15 years before I dropped it for a tech job in my local government and I don't miss it at all.
>>743690498You do know that all the Datacenters planned aren't being used for your personal AI prowess, right? It's to power up the exponentially spreading use of govenrmental surveillance equipment that constantly scans and tracks our biometric data, and scans individual people for thought crimes and pre-crime activities.If you support AI growth, you're supporting the coming totalitarian turn of our nations. No country in the west is free from this. They're using war in the typical "Never let a crisis go to waste" fashion, because they believe all of us are too relaxed and degenerate now, and need an authoritarian re-education.
>>743699212>Even robots die from karoshiGrim.
>>743702121Based grandpa genocide those clankers
>>743702453thanks man, think I’m more at risk for my knees. I do repair, no installs so that helps. grats on making it
>>743701387>He doesn't know the real reasonTip is a CELL movie and Worldwarz (especially the game)
>>743699330Spraying water onto glass isn't the same as cleaning it.
>>743689641doesnt it take like 5 years to build one of those plants?
>>743703159enlighten me I don't want to watch movies
The obvious solution is that people stop playing video games and instead use AI for entertainment. This is already quite popular among young people.
>>743704109Doesn't matter the year, construction is always the same.
>>743701387Aren't the rich whining about US cutting aid to third worlds? Wouldn't they want aid cut if they really were supporting depopulation?
>>743689641not my problemgot my 32 gb ram
>>743699212There are people who are upset robots and AI are taking cashier and stocking jobs.
>>743704000>slams it's head into the ground>immediately attempts to assault nearest womanIt'd fit right in here.
>>743706183who is "they", specifically
>>743689860Yeah but the cost of parts are also going to go up because RAM doesn't come out of thin air, and chip makers will be competing for raw components, thus increasing chip production costs too
>>743690498>I don't know what the fuck people are talking about. Pokemon cards work great and it's not a bubble. I can't even imagine what people are clinging onto that will reveal Pokemon cards doesn't work, every process at my work is being replaced by a First Edition Charizard that replaces a guy who was making 70k. It's completely over this is forever. I'm 100% convinced that mortgages and the housing markets are a time bomb. They're going to abolish white collar work. Humans are like, for carrying boxes now, we are all completely fucked.
>>743706906I'm willing to be their profit margins are still significantly higher now. Like if before they were selling an amount of ram for $100 and the components and labour cost $70 they're now selling the ram for $500 and manufacturing it for $350. Went from a $30 profit margin to a $150 one
>>743702259>Because idiots are trying to shoehorn ai literally fucking everywhere for everything.I remember when they did this to bluetooth. Fucking marketers are the biggest retards.>herpdederp, we need bluetooth sneakers! You can record your steps and we'll lock you into an iphone app that sells your data as well
>>743706183>>743706772
>>743706906Supply and demand bitch.That's why Pokemon cards are fucked and Nintendo ain't going to do shit to fix it.
>>743689641>these chips are getting expensive>I think I shall make some myselfwhat part of this made you think they were for home PC use?
>>743706772The billionaires, anyone from Adelson to Gates to Musk to Thiel.
>>743690498>said the white collar deskiePro tip, you weren't smart when you were younger, you were simply good at memorizing and reciting vocabulary, which is 90% of testing.
>>743689641>It's falling apartlmao anon you are giga retarded. If anything it's only going to massively explode now.
>>743702176AI will be used in both. Who is to say it will be one Robotic form.
>>743699212>brag robots will take away the manual labor jobs>robots are actually taking away the art jobs>make robot to take away the manual labor jobs>robot does manual labor for about 30 minutes, immediately kills itself
>>743703179This. Going to be a lot of watermarks all over the windows. Either someone or something has to actually dry them off properly or every window they do this on needs wipers installed.
>>743702176mechas are retarded, yeah
>>743690498AI can be useful, and it can also be a massively over inflated market that is actively harmful to everyone excect the guy selling the shovels (Nvidia).Like, you can absolutely use AI expedite workflows and push certain projects to completion faster - and you can do the "INVEST OUR ENTIRE ECONOMY TO HYPERINFLATE A NON-EXISTING DEMAND FOR AN UNRELIABLE SUPER AUTOCORRECT THING THAT DAN ALTMAN SWEARS WILL REACH SENTIENCE IN JUST 2 MORE WEEKS" kind of retarded shit that is going on.
>>743702176soul vs soulless
>>743690498There is a bubble but retards on the internet think (or are holding onto the desperate hope) that the bubble bursting means the technology and industry around it will go away forever and we'll be back to pre-2022. That's not how this works, Generative AI is not going anywhere.
>>743689925>plus windows 11 turning devices into a pajeet renting-you-your-pcAren't most people still on Windows 10? I sometimes get full-screen ads booting up my PC asking me to upgrade to Windows 11, kek.
>>743689641You are mentally I'll
>>743708851The biggest problem, primarily in AI in the USA at least, is they're trying to force their AIs to be able to do everything, which makes it really unfocused and it ends up being really half-assed and prone to hallucinating as a result. If they really want to do this, they need to decide what they want their model to specialize in and hard focus on that.It's really controversial right now, but the issues with lawyers getting disbarred for using AI to make their cases for them is a good example, where it just completely hallucinates non-existent cases and uses them as references and to argue precedent. A model that's hyperfocused specifically on law could be useful, especially if they knock out the hallucination issue. Instead of having to sift through potentially hundreds of cases, you could just go>"Okay LawGPT, here's the broad strokes of my case, show me similar cases and the details."
>>743699330What if the drone somehow falls and lands on somebody, killing them, does the "operator" get arrested and go to jail?
>>743690498This is a good thing. It was predicted a hundred years ago that in a few decades the 40 hours work week would be abolished via automation but instead people are now often working more than one job to maintain their quality of life. Some form of UBI is the only path forward.
>>743702176so why do i need a job still?
>>743704775Agreed. I use it for entertainment purposes and memes.
>>743709393Because the 1% know it would be a bad thing for the masses to have unlimited free time so Adult daycare and struggling to survive will continue.
>>743689641>consideringso that's gonna go out the window once he gets a bribe to halt construction on it so they can hoard more ram for their tung tung tung sahur backshot generator data centers
>>743709085Mostly these days they are using AI and Humans together finally than thinking AI can do everything which is a better development than thinking it's able to do it all.
>>743689641Are redditors still waiting for AI to die? The people investing in AI control the whole financial and political system and their dream is to replace you with perfect slaves. This train will never stop.
>>743709550>The people investing in AI control the whole financial and political systemYeah but they expect an actual return on investment
>>743711141no they don't
>>743711141The AI data centers are mainly there for mass surveillance. The return on I vestment is a meme. It's all about power. The have infinite money anyway.
>>743709393You're a slave. Livestock. You exist to make your owners feel good about themselves or you can die.
>>743709393Government wants you to pay taxes
>>743699330So considering a drone can only carry less than about 15 gallons im assuming there was just enough water for this video right?
>>743709393To satisfy the ego of capitalists
>>743699330>>743703179>>743712413This is an anti riot drone. The CEO just waits for the right time to pivot.
>>743712640Meme tech. Poisoning the environment is cheaper .
>>743712760no it's not
>>743703179>>743708732There are some mixed sprays that are for window cleaning.
>>743709393Like many others, you're smarter than a CEO, you'll figure it out.
>>743689641why would they build it in the usa instead of their home country?
>>743689641>CONSIDERING building a chip plant in the USso, it will be built in 10 years after 5 years of deliberation and bureaucracyAND it will be built in California which will tax it up the ass so prices will not lower in the least
>>743706261Cute girl cashiers are literally the only female interaction I get. If they took that away I'd have nothing.
>>743689850they use a different ram fag>>743699161yes it can it helps specifically with trouble shot procedures and diagnostics. It is a tool that helps lower the bar on alot things, or help improve productivity of the higher bar
>>743714375Calm down, Sasaki. Have a smoke with Tayama-san.
>>743699212And then that robot breaks and you have zero productivity until the repair guy shows up and then he says he needs to order a part and it'll take 6 weeks.
>>743717753repair robot you mean?
>>743709013>Aren't most people still on Windows 10?You (and I) wish, I know the Steam hardware survey isn't exactly representative but it pains me to see so many people cave and run apologetics for Microsoft
Where did all of those psycho environmentalists that blow up oil pipe lines go? Not a single person is attacking data centers. It's almost like the entire global warming movement was completely fake and paid for
>>743718943My laptop updated itself to 11 overnight and I had automatic updates turned off on 10.
>>743718943It's not that they're apologists or bootlickers. It's that microslop made sure everyone and their dog heard that windows 10 support was coming to an end, so you better move on.You seriously overestimate the amount of regular users who just go "yeah, but I have a decent idea of what I'm doing, and I won't be that vulnerable by sticking with 10 for awhile, even if it's not supported." Most users' response is to go "well, fuck... guess I gotta move up..."
>>743711141Money hasnt mattered for these people in decades. Blackrock burnt trillions on anti white DEI flop after anti white DEI flop with a smile on their face. They dont care about something they have an infinite amount of. Rationality was thrown out the window a long time ago.
>>743719156>You seriously overestimate the amount of regular users who...No, about 24% of users sticking with an OS that has not been supported for almost a year now while Microsoft shoves "UPGRADE NOW!!!" into your face every other week is pretty fucking massive, I'd expect that number to be single digits at most.
>>743719469The 10/11 situation is different from everything else, because of that bullshit hardware requiment MS put down.There's a not-insignifigant chunk of people who - at least according to them - literally can't update. So unless they get a new machine, they're "stuck"(and no, those people ain't going to linux. If they were, they already would have.)
>>743719012in germany they blew up a power line in the winter but yeah they're basically just gluing themselves to roads and acting like cows are killing the planet, retards
>>743699161based fellow hvachaddont forget to dabble in the other trades, business owners love it when you can fix plumbing/electricity/vehicle issues for them toobecome a 1 stop GOD
>>743719549My nigga, you won't find a under 10 year old motherboard that doesn't have a TPM 2.0 module. At worst you have disabled it in BIOS (or it came disabled) and I'm sorry but if you have a pre-2014 motherboard, you're a poorfag that can't run Win11 anyway as it gobbles up resources nowAnd even then, if you know what you're doing you can bypass the TPM check
>>743689641They're not building a plant for consumer ram dummy.
>>743719642NTA but I've been seriously considering this lately. Plumbers are in short supply as fuck around here, it's crazy. HVAC isn't a lot better. Not really a shortage of general electricians, but yeah, car mechanics aren't keeping up now that you need expensive licenses to work on the electrical and such.Roofers are in crazy oversupply though. I don't know what's going on there, but the poor bastards are reduced to soliciting door to door trying to get work(they usually don't.)
>>743690498Actually based AI because you white collar fags just sit on your computers and do 2 hours of work and make over 100k a year doing nothing. Fuck you
>>743690498Oh man, a lot of people fell for this one huh
>>743719934HVAC is good because it encompasses multiple skillsets. if you know how a refrigeration system works you can diagnose car ACs too. for setting up water cooled condensers you need some basic plumbing knowledge. to diagnose electrical issues you need to know, well, electricity. and there's a lot of digital interfaces with small font manuals that filter boomers or immigrants which would be no problem for tech literate anons. it's a good jumping off point. so is car mechanic / electrician. I wouldnt recommend doing only non electrical trades like plumbing or landscaping. learn to fix anything that uses electricity and requires diagrams/manuals
>okay we'll build another fab that's takes 5 yeaars minimum (and then sell the capapcity to ai slop hehe)
>>743720201>Calling subhumans "people"BAKA.
>>743720258Landscaping's basically a no-go anyway, IMO. The labor's way too cheap on that one.Granted there are some places where you need certs to handle aspects of it, but they're not in the least bit hard to get.
>>743720327It's like how dog owners call the dog their children, it's endearing in a pathetic kind of way
>>743713545liberal scam
>>743699212it really do feel like that sometimes
>>743706750don't forget being a robotlet
>>743699330How does it dry? Wouldn't that leave water spots?
>>743720393agreed. I bring it up because some people try to flex their landscaping job when it's a bad choice if you are smart enough to diagnose + fix machines/systems
>>743720691>water spotsAI makes this a solved problem
>>743689850>but mostly just steal ramToo bad they are RDIMM ram which is unusable for gayming.
>>743689641The memory cartel love the current high prices but their single biggest fear is competition. CXMT and YMTC gaining marketshare during this NAND shortage is a nightmare scenario for Micron, SK Hynix and Samsung. The second China becomes an important player in the market they can no longer control the most valuable commodity in the modern world.
>>743689641They just want to sell more chips to AI, this means nothing.
>>743689683You're invisible to them
>>743700924>How many of us are going to die?Everyone? Did you expect to become immortal?
>>743699212These things charge themselves now by swapping out batteries and work 24/7.
>>743721150RULES OF NATURE
>>743690498A ton of people say it's a bubble just because they want the tech to die with the bubble popping. The reality is AI can hoover up all that compute and it has shown zero signs of slowing down, all while the richest douchebags on the planet are funneling everyone's retirement funds into keeping it growing so they can eliminate the working class and accumulate immense amounts of intelligence and power. AI will not pop unless progress slams into a hard wall, and even if it did, AI will never go away.
>>743675731Do you actually want to know why they're building so many data centers?They are trying to build God. Ai is mostly useless, and building masses of it is mostly useless, because the world is chaotic. AI thrives only in closed environments.They will *attempt* to make your life and everything around you a closed environment. They will resitrict your ability to drive for instance, because the only way you can make AI drivers have decent safety records is if you *totally* remove human drivers from the roads.They are building so many of these centres so they can make you and your government invested so heavily in something they can't stop it. Like the sunk cost fallacy, once we spend enough money and resources on something it will become unstoppable, because letting it stop will be a disastor economically. It'll be too big to fail, as is already happening.Once they can make you so invested in AI it will never go away, it becomes God. You now *have* to communicate with it, and you *have* to follow it's direction. Because it's so ubiquitous, it will require a huge effort on your part to avoid using it, and it will be seen by the people around you as a mistake (because why not just use AI, it's so much faster better etc, you're losing money/time/energy if you don't use AI) You'll be considered stupid if you don't use AI. They'll call you the equivalent of an incel if you refuse to use it. People will socially shame each other into conversing with AI for everything. To do something on your own accord without prior consultation of the AI will be seen as a mistake, both socially and financially.Once they make AI God, these people also *become* God. Because to be God's creator is to be God. If you're wondering who it is, unfortunately it is the Illuminati (knights templar) and unfortunately they truly believe AI will bring about the war of Gog and Magog, and that it will reign as God in the aftermath, with them as it's priests.I'm serious btw.
>>743721574They cannot make an AI god with it achieving AGI. Current models will never achieve AGI because the current models just aren't designed to be able to think and can only summarize information in their databases like the chat complete bots they are. AGI will require every company trashing their models and starting over from zero which none of them will do.
>>743721574midwit fantasy
>>743721574>I'm serious btw.Sure thing, buddy.
Beware of chinese shills pushing AI communism
whats the endgame for eliminating the working class?
>>743721925I cannot fucking wait to see OpenAI go up in flames. AI will continue on, but OpenAI won't be one of the companies to be doing it.
>>743721753Current models can achieve AGI. What they can't achieve is true intelligence or consciousness, which I would argue is a good thing. We do not want to birth a new species that shits all over our intelligence, we would be completely fucked.
>>743721753Like I said, AI can be completely useless, and still achieve Godhood by becoming ubiquitous. It's capability means nothing. It's all about the Act.>>743721812not a rebuttle, although I do notice the only people who use the word midwit are zoomer fags.>>743721897I am, I speak without malice. I do not want them to succeed. If I can make sure enough people know what's up, maybe things can be change. I don't want occultists to control the planet.
>>743722164>I ama midwit2 more weeks until AI God
>>743721935well, think it about like this, they don't need your money, and now with robots and AI they don't need your labor. So now you just take up resources.
>>743722205I don't listen to zoomers, sorry, take care.
>>743721368how long bfore people start burning down processing farms then? It's one thing to get angry because of vidya and a completely different thing to play with people's lives. When you lose everything, and you have nothing left to lose, then you don't care how many bullets you receive as long as you make yourself heard in the most violent way possible.
>>743721925>AI for everyone: badwhere is the logic here?
>>743722285Why do you think they are building data centres with anti vehicle bollards placed everywhere and guard towers on the perimeter? I remember one video they were explaining how they were making these buildings able to withstand being charged at by 18 wheelers going full speed.I think with drones we can break them though. I hope.
>>743689641>building>in the USHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>743690498Good morning sir.
>>743722160No matter what we are fucked since if it goes the way you are saying all we are seeing is the ultimate goiym.
>>743722207a bunch of angry poor people who have a single thing to focus their fury on. that usually goes well.
>>743722259stay midwit, schizo
>>743722285AI is going to save humanity retard stop doomposting like a little baby bitch. >oh no how long before people start burning down internet service providers>oh no how long before people start burning down electricity centers
>>743722410Look, it sounds schizophrenic and there will always be people that guffaw at this stuff, but we really are reaching an endgame here and it will involve Israel, the US, they literally want people to suffer. George Bush claimed to the president of France in 2003 that Israel will bring about the real War one day and that it's all willed by God. These people's fanaticism is recorded and very real, don't let anyone try to convince you that crazies aren't trying to make something happen.
>>743722364>AI BAD>Orange man says AI BAD>AI GOOD!Seriously, if this guy went hard being anti AI you know reddit would do the fastest heel turn on this stuff.
>>743699212Anti-virus status?
>>743708979next token prediction models will never make art. Its philosophically impossible, have a good morning sir.
>>743722365So you're saying that even the Killdozer wouldn't stand a chance against one of those nigger centers?
>>743722520What benefit does AI bring to the common man?The only people benefiting are the 1% who have devious plans for the other 99% of the world.
>>743722450I forgive you.>>743722420i agree with you, however history never had attack drones.
>>743722420you're not going to do shityou fantasize about some angry mob but that will never form because that angry mob is supposed to be made up of you but you're all clearly happy and content enough with your foodslop and digitalslop to ever do something so Im never joining you fags or lighting any torch like that luigi dude who threw his life away for a bunch of pussyfaggots. im getting MY SHARE and you fags can keep dreaming of burning the system down and coping (never ever lmao)
>>743722365there's no such thing as an impenetrable fortress, specially for an angry mob. Plus there's also the social image issue. No company wants to be seen massacring civilians in their facilities, and in the age of streaming, it's impossible to hide such attacks
>>743722593This. It's a useless masturbatory toy at best, and a horrific nightmare at worst. Really not worth supporting.
>>743722410In this case, the average pleb at least has access to open source so power and intelligence isn't entirely accumulated in the hands of a few. People are shitty, but at least people are stupid. Damage would be done, but damage could be prevented or fixed. If AI ever became truly intelligent, we would just inevitably become an anthill in its way and we'd be fucked before we even knew we were fucked.
>>743722621>looks through history booksturns out, you were right and nobody ever fought a war or a revolution
AI threads are like shining the batsignal for third worlders and bots.
>>743722713>t-two more w-weeksnice cope. the walls are closing with mass surveillance and drones and I'm not pinning my chances on siding with retarded angry poor people like you
>>743689641i was hoping they'd start to do something about ram prices after i finally bought some
>>743722520the premise here is that AI will kill everyone's jobs. I'm not dooming but if you want to convince me otherwise, then you have to tell me how will workers be able to keep making a living when everything is automized. Because that's exactly the danger presented in my post. I get that gamers are stupid useless virginsa who will not kill a fly if it starts bothering them, but when you start taking the blue collar jobs, then you start attacking people's living, and at one point someone is gonna lose everything, then more people will lose everything, and it will all pile up if AI and corporations do nothing about it.Also the comparison are dumb. The internet still needed people using it to work. Electricity definitely need people to function. You're talking about a future where AI automatizes everything. No more people working. Explain how all that people are gonna earn money.
>>743722856you dont need money in the traditional sense if AI can provide everythinghow stupid are you?
>>743689683>what about end consumers huh?Basically literally who?End consumers, are becoming a tiny fraction of the market. They get scraps. Here's the pecking order:1) B2B high volume mass production (mostly for datacenters but other infrasctructure such as office PCs, business tablets and smartphones also fits here)2) B2B low volume mass production (auto, medical, aerospace, robotics, etc)3) B2C mass production (mainstream consoles fit here, but things like smartphones, tablets, wearables and general purpuse PCs also fit here and get high priority than consoles)4) B2B on demand (custom and usually very expensive devices)5) B2C on demand (custom consumer devices, most gaming PCs would fit here)End consumers are nobody, specially in the tech industry. It's a miracle PC parts were and still are somewhat easily available on places like Amazon. Most high end semiconductors are difficult to get or straight up completely out of reach unless you have tons of cash and a solid production plan.
>>743722856>You're talking about a future where AI automatizes everything. No more people working. Explain how all that people are gonna earn money.If it was a kinder or more idealistic world then you would think that UBI would be a given, but considering the kind of people there is at the top of the chain and how all they have done is pretty much rape the people below them then everyone knows what is coming.
>>743722987>everyone knows what is comingyeah you're gonna sit there and do nothing
>>743689641>Ram Companies are happy to gouge everyone>Ram Companies start getting investigated for price fixing>"U-uh, the ram prices are unusually high, whoops!"
>>743722957AI is going to provide the raw materials?The people running that AI are just going to let you extract as much value as you need?
>>743721368AI will pop the second the US government stops subsidizing the AI companies and they have to pay for their own chips, AND pay back their investors. Literally none of it is profitable with current tech. They're buying chips that don't exist with money that doesn't exist yet, hoping to get more investment money to pay for it.
>>743722770>Thinking it has chances.You have the same chances of surviving as a cow surviving in a slaughterhouse.
>>743723184there's billions of you and a couple hundred of them. if you cant get your share that's on you, dooming retard
>>743723306dont project onto me, midwit schizo
>>743721925>having to pay for the use of intelligence is utopian>everyone having AI for free is a dystopian hellscapewhat the fuck is this giga kike
>>743723308>AI is going to provide everything>and if it doesn't, just burn the entire world downI don't trust AI to make my life better as a whole, and I don't think it's going to create some utopic state. I think it's going to be a useful cross referencing and research tool, not THE NEW WORLD ORDER
>>743723363It's desperation from OpenAI. Altman desperately wants AI to be a subscription service that you pay for like electricity or water. China wants local models that can run on phones and such.It's fucking amazing how reasonable China looks compared to everything going on in the US.
>>743723408are you retarded? learn to read
>>743723456>learn to readYou're going to have to choose between "AI will provide for you" and "Kill the people running AI and burn it all down to provide for yourself".
>>743723516that's your dilemma you're crying about though, learn to read
Should I buy an sd card for emulating? Feeling some fomo, though I could technically live without it
>>743723532I think you need to learn to write first. "AI is going to save humanity" is mutually exclusive with "AI is run by people you need to kill and loot".
>>743723636you're the only strawmanning retard thinking and fantasizing about killing or lootinglearn to read or stay midwit
>>743723446China just knows the western system is about to explode between immigration, gamestop, and AI. That's why they're promoting open source AI because it deletes any legitimacy in silicon valley's scams.It does make sense as a whole though, it's better to have billions using AI freely since 1% of them might do something good with it, than only rich people using it.
>>743723446You can at least try to be subtle chang.
>>743723669You somehow seem to believe the ones that control AI are benevolent enough to just let the billions of useless peons exist on their whim.
>>743723446the west has truly fallen
>>743723687how was he wrong you retarded faggot
>>743723737Imagine if Randy Pitchfork told you this.That's why its disgusting to take in.
>>743723810who the fuck is that retard
>>743723446To be fair, China just wants to sweep the legs out from under openai and anthropic. They just happen to be doing good things in that pursuit, but they are not good guys. If they had the lead they would be cracking down hard on protecting their models.
>>743723718no I dont. keep strawmanning, schizotard
>>743699161Well 5 years ago people would think you were crazy if you said AI was going to replace programmers within the decade. Robots will get better at doing complex tasks faster than you think too.
>>743723974Where's the mystical slice of the pie for the everyman to come from then, if the people in charge don't wish it so?
>>743724261>wahh wahh wahh indulge my schizo retardationno, lol
>>743724384Behold, the enthusiastic whore, certain her patrons will never tire of her.
>>743724427done jacking off yet?
>>743724465Open your mouth
Get a room, raging faggots.
>>743690498>AI works great and it's not a bubble.LLM’s are neat, but business are enjoying products that are being subsidized by investor capital. They are not being charged enough for companies like OpenAI and Anthropic to earn a return. It may turn out that it’s cheaper to hire a human to do the same job. That, and AI can get 95% of the way there, but the final 5% is where 99% of the value comes from.
https://x.com/mikenevermiss/status/2079276004430713195
>>743709393to lose money on drugs, alcohol, gambling, prostitution.
>>743689683we live in a post consumer worldas long as the banks can just summon money from thin air, you never need to actually sell things to costumers
>>743689683you are a goyyour place is in the real world
>>743722957you're not getting UBI. you will be purged
>>743689925Windows 10 has never been more stable.
>>743690498>every process at my workdoesn't list any - the continual AI grift demonstrated in real time
>>743691846tell me you're a day trading idiot without telling you're a day trading idiot - none of the people pumping AI actually work in tech or engineering fields
>>743717753>Ok chatgpt, which do I need to repair this amazon bot ?>You need a X part6 weeks later, time for the piece to get delivered>Wtf ? It isn't a robot piece at all, it's for a bike ?!>My mistake, you're completly right I was wrong, I'm restarting from zero, you absolutly need a Y piece to repair this robot, I'm 100% sure this time
>>743689925>still using winblowslol
>>743721368I had a list of manga I wanted to sell>Serie a volume 1 to 28>Serie b volume 1 to 8Ect for around 60 series, I was too lazy to type all those number in a calculator myself so I asked chaptgpt, grok and geminiI had 3 differents answer, I did the math myself, all wrongWhat's the point of a computer that can't do basic maths ?
>ai will save humanity>by removing millions of job, consumming more electricity and water than cities, buying every single chips
>>743731074What people value items at is going to be all over the place
>>743689641ban all ai written garbage articles from future plc and their brandshttps://futureplc.com/future-and-ai/https://futureplc.com/our-brands/
Just accept Cloud gaming as your savior. You already pay 15 dollars for Prime and Netflix. AI will literally be able to make any game you want without having to pay jewvidia or Sony 1k every year for hardware.
>>743724240Anon AI is software. Robots are hardware, and there's a reason most robots are only used in an industrial scale like auto manufacturing where you can design one big machine to do one really specific job. It is really unlikely that you're going to get a consumer "universal robot" that can do anything besides waddle around and hold things for quite a long time.
>>743689641>AI scheme is falling apart,
>>743699212I've worked in warehouses for decades, there are already automated systems to load and sort totes on a mechanical spine.
>>743731546But sarr I can not redeem the 5090 please lower prices
>>743723020No one has ever accused the human race of having foresight. But the simple truth is eventually a balance must be struck.
>>743720436Anon they use the same shit in car-washes.
>>743719549>>743719745I literally can't upgrade to Windows 11, not that I'd want to, basically just running this thing until it dies because I don't play any games that are actually intensive in any way.
>>743730767what the fuck are you even rambling about, you deranged schizo?you can google the information yourself Micron boasted quite proudly about those contracts and the profit margins.contrary to you I work in tech and they are shoving AI down our throat at every corner.
>Trusting a gook from Worst Korea
Its funny people are still falling for the AI reasoning when RAM manufacturers have been indited for price hiking twice in the past. Surely they would never do it again right?
>>743689641Lmao, the amount of insider trading and collusion that is happening in chips right now is insane. Its horrifying that even the most "free market" governments of old would have went in hard after these fucks to break up their monopoly ages ago, and yet here we are. And at the same time, I bet these companies themselves know that AI is a bubble, which is also why they don't want to massively increase production, because they want to pump and dump it now, and later on, silently switch back to consumer products.
>>743731546saaars do not redeem the ai the bubble it do be popping saaars
>>743731546>check nvidia stock>same price it was 3 months ago and fallingMaybe he has a point
>>743732405
>>743702259You don't understand chud - that fridge really needs a camera and a internet connection or it won't work.
>>743702121qrd?
>>743709353Its already just paying people to dig holes and fill them back in. White collar workers will just be paid to tell AI to dig holes and fill them in.That is for the subset of the businesses that actually use it, as opposed to waow we don't have to capture meeting outcomes that no one reads anymore.
>>743702176Left will be real because the self-proclaimed lords need to humiliate their subjects and a humanoid shape of a slave just hits different.
>>743708660>>robot does manual labor for about 30 minutes, immediately kills itselfThis was a story point in teleglitch. Both robots and reanimated corpses trying to kill themselves once they realised they ware just menial slaves so they had to be drugged and scammed with virtual realities to keep them running long enough to be profitable.
>>743689683They become important again when the AI bubble bursts and AI companies stop hogging all the RAM just to make sure their competitors don't have any.
>finally bite the bullet and purchase 64gb of ddr5 ram so i can finally upgrade my setup>price is now going to dropi caused thisthank me
>>743689641>AI scheme is falling apartIt's printing more money than ever, including AI-based video games and RPGs.>Will you still charge 1k for a ps6 ?You mean $1200. PS6 needs a new SSD, too.>>743699161HVAC is literally the poster child for a bubble. It's artificially "booming" right now because of the ban on Freon just 6 years ago, and everyone is still having to replace their shit units. Once the backlog is over, the enormous fucking pipeline of people thinking they're entering a booming field are going to be spreading mayo on sub sandwiches for a living.Your goal in HVAC is to make as much as you can and retire before shit collapses. You'd be smart not to stay there.
>>743719745Factual wrong. But you had to actually look for a board without that shitchip by 2024, I give you that
>>743689641Whatever the Sony slop factory or the fat man put out, it doesn’t matter to me. The price doesn’t matter. I will not buy.
>>743732576>same price it was 3 months ago and falling>shows a 5 year graph
>>743731346>You already pay 15 dollars for Prime and Netflix Sorry sheep, but I do not
>>743721190This is 60% fake. Look at the """person""" in helmet
>>743706230>He think 32gb is enoughLol. 64gb is minimum to do everything
>>743733373Thank you for your sacrifice, anon. I've been there many times before, and it stings, but it gets better when you realize meme magic is real, and that you are god's funniest clown (thus accomplishing his silliest deeds).
>>743733437>HVAC is literally the poster child for a bubble. It's artificially "booming" right now because of the ban on Freon just 6 years agoEither genuine retard jealous of hvacgawds or a fellow hvachad trying to scare people away from hvac. It's literally just an EPA ban on a certain type of freon because muh ozone layer, not a wholesale ban on refrigerant, numbskull. If anything the constantly increasingly hot temps ensure hvacGAWDS will remain in hot demand. >spreading mayo on sub sandwiches for a livingI am the guy that makes sure the sub sandwich businesses stay in business and pass food temp health inspections. You make the free sandwiches for me because your boss wants to keep me happy at all costs.
>>743695593Why doesn't valve go to cxmt though?
>>743700924Don’t be retarded. If they let us starve who’s gonna buy their shit?
>>743737804the fact that you are so cucked that THIS is what you think is your leveraging power is exactly why you are DOOMEDstay doomed pussy
>>743694996Valve doesn't wanna sell at a loss. They're not like the big console manufacturers that are willing to take a loss to sell millions and millions of units and make up for it in game sales later, the steam userbase is not gonna meaningfully increase from the sale of steam hardware and they can't manufacture in those kinds of quantities either.
>>743699212I've played enough factorio to know that a single inserter won't trip over and fall
>>743732732old man had vietnam flashbacks, thought he was being doused in agent orange, despite never being there
>>743737403Cxmt isn't giving anyone significantly cheaper memory, they are also an unknown quantity and I don't imagine the marginal cost savings are worth the risk. Give it enough time and a decent track record then every tech company will be scrambling to use their memory
>>743689641This just means that even as they hoarded all memory from consumers, it still isn't enough to rival the production society of China, so in order to rival China they have to combine it with domestic production facilities of RAM, which will still only be reserved for AI and not our computers.
>>743689925I definitely remember having the conversation about just buying a 2070 with classmates in Computer Science who went "bruh, they just announced the 3000 series" and I was like "yeah but the prices are getting even worse."When that initial jump in the X090 card happened I felt like something was wrong. When I built my PC in 2024 and got one of those overheating Intel CPUs and they went "this is by design" I also knew something is amiss with Moore's Law.We really have reached the end of the line, and it means all dedicated gaming is on borrowed time :(at least we'll be ending with GTA VI and the OoT remake. I imagine Laufey will ship by the time you can't even buy a console anymore, which is good for us in that case.
>>743712413Hooking up a long hose to it doesn't sound like rocket science.
>>743731274And the useful estimation of that is the information he was desiring. Any given appraising firm can do it.
>>743720691A strong fan maybe
>>743700924Judging from the Gulf countries' state, where there's 9 slaves per 1 citizen. We're looking forward a 90% population culling.So we'll peak at roughly 10 billions people on Earth, circa 2050. And then a sharp decrease to 1 billion by the end of the century.
Let the goyim deal in the real world.
>>743699330That's so retarded. We could have done the exact same shit by letting a hose dangle from the rooftop... And ten times more efficiently, at that...
>>743733214Two more weeks
>regular ram is now more profitable for them than the fancy data center ramI hope some exec will be raped in jail.
>>743703179>>743713545This, though I've never found a single """streak-free""" window cleaner that didn't take as much effort to remove as just hot soapy water. You end up drying that shit just as much as anything else. So unless there's a drone with a squeegee coming by after the video it'll still be shit. But I can see a soapy pressure washer drone working as part of a team just fine
>>743699212>cary boxes up to 10 kg, it takes twice+ as long than human>but also is 3x times as expensive than human if you consider repair, maintance, electric power and poducing the robot also a guy skilled enaugh to maintain robots have to be paid 20x times the manual labor worker
>>743703179actualy this is exactly what i do in winter and autumn with photovoltaic panels (yes we use drone even for 1 story building)high pressure water with german chemistry can clean it
