What makes a good character design? And when its fine to change that design in an existing work? Should rule of cool overwrite it all as long as it fits somehow, or should the character design follow certain cohesion within the game?
I haven't played Deltarune but I can still tell this is a stealth thread.
>>744496874>what makes a good designThat varies greatly depending on the work and the character. Usually I'd say that it needs to fit in the work it belongs too while also being recognizable and expressing the personality of the character its for.>And when its fine to change that design in an existing work? While I personally prefer sticking to the same design, I do think its generally alright and often good to change a design based on how the character has developed in the narrative.>Should rule of cool overwrite it all as long as it fits somehow, or should the character design follow certain cohesion within the game?I think that's kind of an oxymoronic question. If it fits then its cohesive with the game, if it doesn't fit then its not cohesive. You can't choose between the two.Anyways, unless the character is specifically supposed to feel out of place, he should look at home in the setting.
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>>744496874Good character design makes you feel something other than "whatever."I know thats vague but that feeling will last longer than anything else about them
>>744497387Believe it or not, this thread is not about a different game.
>>744496874The matter with CERTAIN GAMES is that there isn't supposed to be much cohesion.I feel people focus too much on furry-looking anthros instead of going wild with scrimblos, something even Robert is guilty of.
>>744497470>While I personally prefer sticking to the same design, I do think its generally alright and often good to change a design based on how the character has developed in the narrative.What if the new design is made to cater to the opinions of a vocal minority?
>>744497649Yeah it's definitely not about sharing some gay ass fruits with a crush you always get separated from
>>744497487HYEH
>>744497649mistyped because its late where I am. This thread is not about that game.>>744497790I actually have played that game (still not what this thread is about btw) and I have no idea what you're talking about.
>>744497748>I feel people focus too much on furry-looking anthros instead of going wild with scrimblos, something even Robert is guilty of.I have to agree with this even if I do like anthroslop furries, I think my biggest gripe is that they go with very common animal species, if your characters can be based on literally anything why make them based on the mlst basic bitch animals? Like, at least make them based on mythological versions of them if you're going to be basic
>>744497787Obviously, that's really shitty, and the devs should feel ashamed for doing it.>>744497748I think he was asking specifically about the redesigns because of mug groomer.
>>744497860Sorry if I havent played all hundred of the games to fully understand what the fuck is going on
>>744497935Were you just making some random bullshit up, or was that some idea you had of something that happened in that game?
>>744497860>I actually have played that game (still not what this thread is about btw) and I have no idea what you're talking about.I think he's talking about Kingdom Hearts, cause of the Paopu fruit and the fact that Sora's always getting separated from Kairi somehow.I swear, Sora spends so little time with his supposed canonical crush that he actually has more chemistry with Riku after a certain point.
>>744496874>game is visually appealing but otherwise completely bland
starfruit is an underrated plant in pvzor not, idk what the meta community says
>>744498062Oh, well I haven't played Kingdom Hearts, so I guess I'm the ignorant one here.
>>744498069UT Futility be like
>>744498090There's a meta community for PVZ?
>>744497869I recognize my hypocrisy because I picked a B tier animal species for one of my main characters, but I promise everyone else is weirder.>>744497905>mug groomerThey did WHAT to the shufflers???MasterSwordRemix is a fucking dumbass for not letting it go quiet on it's own.
>>744498103Eh, don't worry about it too much, not super relevant to know about these days, at least around here. Its time has mostly passed.I still want one of those fuckin' Organization XIII coats though, I swear to god I'll find one one day...
>>744498203>They did WHAT to the shufflers???mug moment>MasterSwordRemix is a fucking dumbass for not letting it go quiet on it's own.I can only hope he lives to regret it and learns his lesson, but learning is something I don't expect from these people.
>>744498203>I recognize my hypocrisy because I picked a B tier animal species for one of my main characters, but I promise everyone else is weirder.What are you making?
>>744498413It's a mammal
>>744498487You're making a mammal?Congrats anon, but what's that have to do with fangames?
>>744496874>oh wow is that fruit shaped like a star??? >buy>tastes mid af
>>744498537It's a mammal. For fangame.
>>744498585What would you describe the taste as?
>>744498651So when you say "for", do you mean like, as an offering *to* the fangame?Like, as a sacrifice?
Fuck you all, this is now a KH thread
>>744498723didn't you know? In order to make a scrimblo something must be sacrificed first
>>744498723my NDA forbids me from answering that
>>744498792 This you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZs29IAu3c
>>744498717Apple, grape and citrus, but not as intense as I would like. Passion fruit are better.I might have bought underripe one because I live in 50 degrees north region and I don't think that people would bother with proper logistics
>>744498851>Dual wield!Yes, spread the gospel of that video, good.
>>744498942You know what's funny is that I actually did shit like that when I was younger, with the PVC pipe wrapped in foam to use as a fake sword. Only I was doing Star Wars.
>>744498838Have you shown your game around here before? Feels like we have a lot more devs than we think
>>744498910Interesting, even if its a bit of a let down, id like to taste it
>>744499002>with the PVC pipe wrapped in foam to use as a fake swordLook at the rich man and his plastic swordBack in the day me and my brothers used sticks and we pretended to be DMC characters
>>744499003I've shared a few assets and concepts in the past but I'm restraining myself from revealing anything too important. I don't wanna let anons get attached to characters who might never come to life.
>>744499109Oh shit its this! Nice to see you still around
You ever think a fangame with graphics like this would be doable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQDC0Hngcw ? Or what about with PS1 style graphics?
>>744499081You can't really hit someone with a stick though (at least I couldn't without getting in trouble). My dad had a lot of PVC from work, so we just took some, cut up a pool noodle, and wrapped that, and a bit of pipe insulation around it, and beat each other with them.
>>744499148I think that would be way too much effort, even with PS1 graphics, unless they make the game really short, at that point they should make an original gameif only UT/DR fangames had the same kind of official support some FNAF games had
>>744499214>You can't really hit someone with a stick though (at least I couldn't without getting in trouble).Not all sticks are created equal, some hurt way less than others, besides its not like we were hitting each other with killing intent
>>744498910I think it has a satisfying texture. From what I can recall it's like a firmer grape with a bit of snap to it
>>744499272That official support thing crashed and burned. FNAF fangames are all just fans doing it for clout. There are FNAF clones that make money, but they aren't FNAF, and they also are the minority.Anyways, are low poly models really that much harder than 2d sprites?
>>744499214Nta but as kids we used pvc for that once and somehow someone got cut real bad.Years later we bought wooden wasters and fucked eachother up properly.>>744499002I found that I never wanted to record the most embarrassing moments we had personally but Im sure everyone gets into some stupid shit at some point.
>>744499309When I was a kid we weren't allowed to hit each other with sticks if it hurt at all.
>>744499591>Nta but as kids we used pvc for that once and somehow someone got cut real bad.That's why you have to duct tape pipe insulation to the ends of the pipe.>I found that I never wanted to record the most embarrassing moments we had personally but Im sure everyone gets into some stupid shit at some point.I didn't record it. I just played similar games with similar foam homemade swords.
>>744499109looks cool, don't make the octopus gay tho
>>744496874A simple, basic design but with just a little bit of sauce to make it interesting.I will always point towards Raidou as one of the best examples of good character design practices. Basically the polar opposite of genshin impact type designs.
>>744496874Do I think it looks cool? Yes, this is good character design.Do I think it looks stupid? No, this is bad character design.It's that shrimple. Evertyhing beyond is just sophistry.
>>744499694forgot the image
>>744499692don't worry kanye
>>744499570>That official support thing crashed and burned. FNAF fangames are all just fans doing it for clout.I know they crashed and burned, but the idea had potential, if only those fangame devs weren't so shitty, the barrier of entry should have been higher.>Anyways, are low poly models really that much harder than 2d sprites?Maybe ps1 models not that much, but ps2 era models are definitely an order of magnitude harder to pull off than your average pixel art, the only productivity advantage they have is in animations, and with an UT/DT fangame you need a lot of models, not only for the main characters and enemies, but for the overworld NPCs too.A 2.5D game like Paper Mario would be a more realistic goal.
>>744499727But what if its a joke character? Should the joke character look cool or goofy?
>>744499109Make the octopus gay and only the octopus, it would be funny
>>744499774>Maybe ps1 models not that much,You said "even wiith the PS1 models" which is what I was replying to with that. Yeah, a PS2 styled 1 would be hard, but I think one in the style of something like Megaman Legends wouldn't be too difficult from an artist's POV.
>>744499109cook him
>>744499780Do I like it? Good character design.Do I not like it? Bad character design.It can be both goofy and cool, like C3P0C3P0 is good character design, because I like the way he looks and acts. If I did not, it would be a bad design.
>>744499870I don't know anything about modeling on 3d but even with PS1 models it would be a massive leap in difficulty, I think you would need a proper team of modelers if you don't want the fangame to take a decade, if this were any other game it shouldn't be as hard, but UT/DR has a lot of minor NPCs populating each area
>>744499967I've done low poly stuff before. Its not that hard. Probably a bit harder than spriting, but not that bad. Plus with models you can do tricks like reskinning, pallette swapping, or swapping out individual pieces of the model to get new characters.
>>744496874it must be cool, or retarded, or funny, or beautiful, or any of the virtues or any of the sinsit must not be plain or extremely ugly (for your protagonsits). only villians fit ugliness often
>>744499148Deltatraveler was working with a 3D section based on some ps1 game, the entire thing got scrapped recently (I think), so at least we know the idea has been tried before
>>744500158Toontown isn't a PS1 game, its an MMO for PC. Or it was, I don't think its around anymore.
>>744500196oh yeah that game, it released in 2003 so I guess it had PS2 era graphics
>>744498118I was about to say that game at least had good designs, but not really, they fall under the "too furry" category
>>744499915In the case of C3P0, it really just becomes a matter of whether the majority of the observing audience thinks he looks and acts cool. If you asked an audience member that hated C3P0, they could write an entire novel on why C3P0 is a bad design that fell flat, if you ask a star wars fan they probably wouldn't need to write an essay of cope and seethe. I liked him he looked cool versus: Why does he look like the robot from metropolis? This is bad character design because metropolis and star wars have entirely different themes. If he was going to be a reference to metropolis star wars should have had the appropriate atmosphere. If he's supposed to be appealing to humans as a serving robot, why does he have so many grooves and sharp edges? If it was good character design it would be softer and more visually appealing. The sharp edges and exposed innards wouldn't have come about in a robot designed for human comfort. The glowing eyes and crash test dummy face should have been more expressive, as a translator he's going to need to use expression to properly translate a language. Why give him arms and legs at all if you're going to restrict his movement? It doesn't make any sense, a completely impractical design like this existing within the star wars universe. In the utilitarian model that all other star wars designs are based on, it doesn't make sense to have this robot stand out as something with this many redundancies. This doesn't make sense within the setting.Now someone who didn't give a shit about any of those things probably didn't notice any of that shit, but I could just as easily make an argument from a genuine standpoint that the characters in halo reach are objectively bad design because they turned spartans into power rangers and I did not like that they did that for a variety of reason.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and whoever can shit out a better spiel using authoritative sounding language will be deemed the right
>>744500653Yeah, you can say all of that stuff about C3P0, but his design has become iconic despite all the flaws that it posses from an in universe perspective, sometimes just being famous is enough for a character to trascend, no matter how basic it might be.Just like the Undertale cast, in which most characters are extremely basic and aren't cool, they look goofy.
>>744497748>I feel people focus too much on furry-looking anthros instead of going wild with scrimbloswhat's the wildest scrimblo seen so far in a UT/DR fangame?
>>744501038I'm not genuinely arguing that C3P0 is a bad design, I like C3P0, therefore he is a good design. I'm saying that good versus bad character design is completely subjective and what it boils down to is consensus and sophistry. The deciding factor for whether or not a character design is good or bad, is who can make the better argument and how many people agree with that argument. If I had played undertale and liked it, and liked the character designs within I could write a 60000 word essay on why the character design is good, but I wouldn't be any more or less right than someone who argued it's good because I liked it. It's not objective and you shouldn't put that much stock into it.
i was going to have a webm for the DRY2 update, but its 1AM. i gotta sleep.tl;dr:>item menu is now done, minus some polish for later and making the item counts update once i've got those other inventories made.>i made a day by day roadmap, as long as i hold myself to it this puts me at mid-september to october for a release for the demo.
>>744496874Starfruits are awesome. They could kill you after you eat more than three. It's absolutely amazing.
>>744501208UTY itself has some great ones as NPCs, but I can't think of a single one who is a major character.
>>744501259Cool stuff DRY2anon
>>744501309That seems like a tendency, I can't really blame the UTY team since Undertale itself is kinda like that, most of the characters are animal anthros with pretty normal human bodies, then the overworld NPCs and the regular enemies are allowed to be literally anything, the minibosses are usually the ones that get to have some plot relevancy while still being some kind of weird creature
>>744501253> what it boils down to is consensus and sophistryCouldn't that be applied to basically everything?
>>744501282How do they kill you?
>>744501253I think there are still a few objective guidelines when it comes to character design, you wouldn't say a super anachronistic design in a story that's meant to be taken seriously is good, right?
>>744501592Nta, but maybe the character himself is an anachronism, or maybe that's something you want the reader to pick up on to make him suspicious of a character. Like say if someone is secretly a time traveler.
>>744501498Well, most literary and aesthetic debates yes, unless it's something like "which of these two images is more realistic", in which case you would have a real world example to do a 1:1 comparison with and the debate would be objective. If I was arguing that a game's gameplay mechanics were poor, that would be an objective argument because there are other examples of better mechanics I could draw from. If someone is arguing that they think the character designs in undertale are bad, it's because they don't like them, it's completely a matter of taste.
>>744501823No, I meant like everything in existence. Ultimately, everything is based on human perception, and that's entirely in your head, so its also subjective. I am almost certain there's some philosophical school of thought out there that believes that.
>>744496874>intoxicates youHeh, nothing personnel kid
>>744501972How many shots of water does it take Luzma to get to each level.
>>744501309Whats the worst design from a fangame? Either literally poorly drawn or bland, I'd say Dalv is one of the worst designs from UTY, he's not horrible in any way, but he's kinda dull and looks too much like a human
>>744496874For those who dont know starfruit is fucking delicious. It is like a combination of a grape and other fruits essentially it tastes like fruit punch.
>>744502029one liter of raw water would put her in a coma
>>744501954Not when you have a tool that can accurately measure reality, that's when objectivity comes into place. You can't argue that my cock isn't 3 inches from the floor because I have a ruler to compare it to. You can argue that undertale has good character design, another can argue it has bad character design and you'd both be right because a there isn't a universal ruler for it. There isn't an objective measurement for what is good or bad character design. Some people like sweet and sour garlic pork, I think it's the most atrocious tasting thing on the planet. The ruler is my tongue, and my ruler is different from your ruler. With character design the ruler is what you think is cool and everyone has a different ruler.
>>744502197Nah, she's stronger than that.She could just get so hot the water evaporates.Along with the container it's in.And the person holding it.
>>744502302>Nah, she's stronger than that.Maybe two liters then>She could just get so hot the water evaporates.But the point was drinking the water, that's like, I dunno absorbing water with your skin?>Along with the container it's in.So she's as hot as hotland>And the person holding it.now that's just rude
Funny thing I just noticed, if you pick "unknown" as the answer in the MTT quiz, the game implies Alphys has a crush on (you), or at least her theoretical idea of (you).
>>744502302Yeah, and I could take a bath in beer, but the question isn't how much can she destroy, is how much can she drink.
>>744502381>Maybe two liters thenI don't think the specific heat changes much with volume.>But the point was drinking the water, that's like, I dunno absorbing water with your skin?"Drink" is such a nebulous term, if you think about it.>So she's as hot as hotlandHotter than the hottest star in the universe, baby.>now that's just rudeYou're the one trying to make her drink so much she goes into a coma.
>>744502273But what if we're just perceiving the ruler wrong? What if there is no ruler? What if there is no you? What makes that ruler and those inches universal and objective?
>>744502416I think Weaver made a drawing about that, with Alphys sticking one of her boobs through some magical screen and out of your monitor for you to do, something, with.
>>744499109Make the octopus straight and a girl.
>>744502534May I see it?
>>744502514Hey, NTA, but aren't you just reinventing the Boltzmann brain from first principles now?
>>744502514Well whatever the Pharaoh's hand is measured as is the objective measurement for a hand of length, obviously.
>>744502502>I don't think the specific heat changes much with volume.At one point her fire would have to die down from all the water>"Drink" is such a nebulous term, if you think about it.it is? you drink by swallowing liquids with your mouth, there's no other interpretation>Hotter than the hottest star in the universe, baby.She can't be that hot, otherwise no one would live to tell the tale of how hot she is>You're the one trying to make her drink so much she goes into a coma.I just stated how much I think she could drink before passing out, that's like murdering someone for wrongly believing you're a light weight
>>744502562Sure: https://static1.e621.net/data/be/2f/be2f369a4e65edb1275056aa4ad8c3e7.pngI don't know if it'll do much for you, but enjoy.
>>744502640>I just stated how much I think she could drink before passing out, that's like murdering someone for wrongly believing you're a light weightWhich is by no means an overreaction.
>>744502539pretty sure it already is a girl, look at the eyelashes, only girls (and femboys) are allowed to have those
>>744502647nta but, nice
>>744502640>>744502678On the topic of Luzma, how do you guys think she would act in a sauna? That's like the hottest place a human can be while still feeling comfortable
>>744502875I'm not sure the moisture would do much for her, honestly. That, and I don't think it would get hot enough to appeal to her much.I did think about what it would be like to shower with her, back in that blackout a few days ago, and my conclusion was that while it may be nice to be close with her, I think the resulting steam from her making direct contact with the water (assuming water doesn't hurt her externally or anything) would end up messing with my asthma and I would very quickly not be able to breathe. Fun stuff.
>>744502975>and I don't think it would get hot enough to appeal to her much.I dunno, I think at the very least it would feel nice for her to be in a hot place with her anon for once, she doesn't have to hold back her fire much>spoilerbathing with her sounds great actually, assuming her heat doesn't turn you into soup
>>744503135>I dunno, I think at the very least it would feel nice for her to be in a hot place with her anon for once, she doesn't have to hold back her fire muchHm, maybe.I guess being in a generally hotter area would allow he to hold herself back less, even if only a bit.>bathing with her sounds great actually, assuming her heat doesn't turn you into soupI'm still mostly worried about my lungs deciding there's too much water in the air for me to breathe and making me pass out, but I can imagine it'd be nice up until that point.I feel like if I started really getting messed up by it, Luzma would start laughing because "I can't handle a little steam" or something, only for her laughter to start sounding more concerned as she realizes I'm actually in relatively serious trouble and can't breathe.I do like the idea of her being concerned over me, admittedly.
>>744503285>I feel like if I started really getting messed up by it, Luzma would start laughing because "I can't handle a little steam" or something, only for her laughter to start sounding more concerned as she realizes I'm actually in relatively serious trouble and can't breathe.If she keeps laughing like that soon there would be two people out of breath in that bathtub>I do like the idea of her being concerned over me, admittedly.we all want someone who can look after us, don't we?
>>744503453>If she keeps laughing like that soon there would be two people out of breath in that bathtubWell, it is one of her signature traits, her laugh.Pretty cute, too.>we all want someone who can look after us, don't we?Ah, true.Just the idea of someone so big and strong, who could potentially obliterate you in a second (ignoring UT scaling for a second) having such a soft spot for you, it's a cozy feeling, you know.
>>744504571She looks like she unbirths human children
>>744504618Anal vores them up her poop chute, you mean
>>744504618>>744504831she looks like she rips posters like (You) limb from limb
>>744505262Zenith Martlet is for snuff and gore fetishists?
>>744498069>ENTER
>>744505514
It's been a very long time since I've gone camping. I can't imagine doing it alone but the people I know wouldn't be all too interested in doing so these days.I wonder which characters would most appreciate nights under the open sky out in the wilderness. I know wiki is a given, she'd probably have tons of useful knowledge to make such a thing a good time.Smokey they bear would not approve of Luzma in the forest.not even just "characters I want fuck" but just in general too.
>>744505831She could make a good night light tho, or a portable cooking stove in a pinch.
>>744506071She'd probably be very convenient but just one poorly timed forest fire and fire elementals are banned from most national parks if they weren't already.
>>744505831>Smokey they bear would not approve of Luzma in the forest.This is a very funny sentence.Anyway, I think she should be allowed in forests, I trust her.
>>744506091Well she better hopes she doesn't lose control over her fire, hmm?
The canon games acknowledging the fandom is it's own can of worms, but how do you feel about fan games acknowledging the fandom?
>>744506985Feels like a good way to invite trouble.
>>744506318No making fire monsters cum in a forest, got it.
>>744506985The absolute most you should do is reference so vague and nebulous that no one's really sure if it's an intentional reference at all, so no one can get seriously mad about whatever it is.
>>744506985Define fandom.
>>744508156The community around UT and DR
>>744508971That doesn't really narrow things down at all.
>>744509274The question was as broad as I desired.
>>744509419Well, unfortunately that doesn't really leave any actual room for discussion since the disparity could mean talking about anything from Him to People that think the game is failing to meet the expectations they made for themselves half watching DELTARUNE: ALL WEIRD ROUTE CUTSCENES FOR SPECIAL BOYS with their finger up their ass
>>744496874Stealth Deltarune thread
>>744510161nah
>>744496874I think a character should also not be too busy in design, easy to read and recreate.
>>744505514>>744505561I hope the other fangames have cute shopkeepers too
Might as well post these here as well. I did some silly doodles for a 'what-if' scenario of fangame characters ending up in White knuckle. Here is their humble beginnings in Silos.
>>744512780And the group continues upwards, reaching Hab.
>>744506985The only fandom the (local) fangames should acknowledge is this one, and that should mostly come in the form of references to other local fangames
>>744507128That's what caves are for
>>744505514>>744505561Why is she so adorable
>>744513193I can't believe they got Omni-Man to crush Mooch's skull for the new update.
>>744505831Quetzali seems like an obvious choice, she's already in a camp in the game, I'm not sure if there would be much for her to explore in a park, but maybe she'll try to find a way no clip out of bounds
>>744505831I'm glad someone like my schmoepost enough to save it.
>>744513161Bears are pretty cute when they aren't trying to maul you
>>744505308You can thank the: Many discussions of Zenith Martlet unbirthing Clover so he live, to the point where it's kind of become a sort of funny meme here.Many requests the drawanon gets here that involve Martlet unbirthing Clover and the various stages of Martlet's pregnancy.The images on esix of Zenith Martlet/Martlet unbirthing Clover being ridiculously popular by a large margin with lots of favs, upvotes and comments. I don't know how or why they're the most popular images the drawanon has drawn by request, when he's drawn really great stuff that doesn't involve it from some of the other requests he gets, but I guess more people like it than I initially thought.At least he makes normal pregnancy alts for the guys that just want normal pregnancy art.
>>744513420e6 should not be used as a measure of a fetishes popularity.And nearly all of those requests are one retard spamming them.
>>744512904>>744512949Surprising how the all made it out of the silos
>>744496874A lot of the characters I’ve come up with are pastiches of several others I like design-wise.My personal rule is that so long as your character isn’t a one-for-one physical/mental copy, and has something to offer the the inspirations don’t, you can copy as much as you want.
>>744513035>Local parks having to include signs of "if you're a fire elemental you must be responsible with your activities, don't engage in actions that could make you lose control of you temperature, if you must, go to a place with little vegetation like a cave or a river
>>744513543A well-rounded group (also I don't like killing off people so there's that too.)
>>744513679If this were in DRY people would begin shipping Melody and Sadie and would call it "toxic yuri"
>>744513465I highly doubt it's just one person making all the requests. It's common knowledge that people from e6 also frequent these threads, and even contribute to some discussions.Even if you wanted to make the argument that e6 shouldn't be a measure for how popular a fetish is, there's no way it wouldn't be getting the attention it does unless more than one person found it appealing in some way.Unbirthing isn't really my thing, but even I can see that it clearly has an audience.
>>744496874>lust provoking picture>irrelevant timewasting post
>>744514027It pretty clearly is just one person considering how spread out the unbirthing requests are.
>>744513465>e6 should not be used as a measure of a fetishes popularity.It kind of can. People don't just like something in the hundreds unless a large handful of people liked what they saw.I'd agree if these images only had like 50 likes and favs or something, but 300, 400 and 500?At that point it's well beyond only one person likes to see it.
>>744514272NTA, but there's like one really crazy guy over on e621 who usually uploads that drawfag's stuff, and also obsessively comments about unbirthing shit all the time, to the point that he's even tagged completely unrelated images by other artists of Martlet pregnant as if they're related to the unbirthing stuff.That guy's almost certainly the one responsible for spamming it around here.
>>744514518Shot in the dark here, I get the feeling he make requests, or some of them when the drawanon takes requests, but ironically he isn't the one who keeps bringing it up in the threads, that feels like someone else.
>>744505438The only use of these and starfruit is to make artistic looking fruit bowls, they're so expensive and yet so utterly lacking in flavor. I remember being very disappointed.
>>744514731Some of the requests are clearly shitposts
>>744514731Based on his ESL style of speaking, I'd wager he's definitely around at least some of the time, especially whenever the drawfag himself is being made the topic of discussion.
So, did thisbthing make ay progress or is it dead already?
>>744514731Nah, the way that guy comments on almost every single upload with that creepy ass way of speaking, there's no way he's not the one bringing it up all the time, he's like a perfect match for the way a lot of the spam posts are worded.
>>744514996>Fuck not!Ralsei>Marry not!Berdly>Kill the others
>>744514808I have no doubt he pops up here and there, but for the most part, it appears he just keeps to himself.>>744514770Like this anon said, there's clearly a shitposter, and after thinking about it, it does kind of feel like this same person is using misdirection to make people think the problem poster is someone else.I'm sure you guys have noticed whenever some kind of discussion happens and there's some kind of problem poster, there's always someone who's very adamant in pointing fingers at a specific person to the point where it's gotten tedious and excessive.
>>744514767>expensiveTropical chads win again
>>744515363I remember telling that guy to give it rest, because it was getting ridiculous with the accusations. Others did to.
>>744515363>there's always someone who's very adamant in pointing fingers at a specific person to the point where it's gotten tedious and excessive.Probably the same guy that anon was talking about desu.I remember seeing a guy who spoke exactly like him accuse the cbt drawfag of being a troll, feels like the sort of thing a guy like that would get up to.
>>744515491win what? this shit gets mogged by an apple
>>744515092NTA Not sure what your idea of creepy is, but his comments look like the kind generic comments you'll find on any site where there's furry image porn.
>>744515363You seems very defensive
>>744496874the only thing that matters is having a unique recognizable silhouette
>>744515576That's some next level ragebait.
>>744515815Idk man, he's clearly pretty obsessed with that one drawfag, doesn't seem too ragebaity to me.
Will every fangame fallen humans get their own monster gf/bf?
>>744515897Imagine hating a guy so much, you try to get others to hate him because he just draws requests, and people like what he draws.
>>744516032Nah, i dont think its a false flag, i think he actually likes that drawfag so much that hes gotten a little crazy over him.Weird parasocial shit
>>744515576That's a level of retarded I didn't think was even possible for someone to do.
>>744496874It's been ages since I ate one of these, they're so good
Wait I thought this was a thread about fruits or something, how the fuck is this a stealth undertale deltarune thread???
>>744516120>I like someone so much that I'm going to try to get everyone to hate him, shit on his work whenever he posts something, and possibly makes so that he never comes back to these threads.Sounds like the guy is just delusional, and is having trouble comprehending that people aren't buying into his delusions.
>>744516134Welcome to 4chan, the place where you see levels of retarded that will leave you confused.
>>744515092You sound weirdly obsessed with the guy if I'm being honest.
>>744516515After a while you'll get used to it. Most of the time.
>>744515967Most of these are already dead btw
>>744511717>>>/vg/>>>/vrpg/>>>/trash/
>>744513679Sadie has g-cups confirmed >>744518203You ever think about what you're doing with your life, hall monitor?
>>744513679>>744518683So Sadie feels better than Kanako here?https://files.catbox.moe/trubkt.png
>>744518785Bugs can't feel better than fur
>>744519834Those things are clearly soft and malleable.
>>744502569So that's what its called. I knew there was already a school of thought for that.
>>744498069I like the taste, but >>744505438 is right, dragonfruit is awful and its name is so tryhard>dwagon so cool! 'o'
Someone should make a dragonfruit scrimblo with a badass design and a bland personality
>>744498585Like any organic food, its taste varies depending on how it was grown and cultivatedsome strawberries are sweet, most are sour
>>744520958>scrimbloTumblrina
>>744515967seems there's a clear favorite human. wonder if that's another reason why toby made Orange a mouse
>>744521609Everyone wanted to do an Orange fangame after UTY released, probably because it has the most gameplay potential with the kid being an actual fighter and all
>>744502575You know that it doesn't even have to get that weird to be an example. Before the metric system, every kingdom in Europe had their own customary system with its own inches and feet, and they weren't interchangeable.
>>744502975I'd think water would hurt her, on account of how averse to touching the stuff Grillby is.
>>744522362>I'd think water would hurt her, on account of how averse to touching the stuff Grillby is.he is? I don't remember that
>>744505831Reynault and Racter both would have camping and foraging skills, on account of being soldiers from the pre-industrial era and from being ancient people in general.
>>744516228They're hiding behind a fangame character because janny doesn't know them as well.
>>744506091And one civil rights suit should sort that out
>>744506985>but how do you feel about fan games acknowledging the fandom?seems fine to me.
>>744522691>seems fine to me.Can't wait to see a fangame with a creepy froggit that has a pronoun fetish for some reason
>>744521362no, that's *our* word now
>>744522617Fire elemental monsters and elementals in general represent a danger to human society
>>744522485Yeah>Grillbz says he'd offer you a glass of water, but he doesn't touch the stuffits the first dialogue you get from Grillby
>>744523291sounds pretty racist to me
>>744497487
>>744505438This shit is incredibly disappointing when you buy it somewhere outside of tropics, but in tropical countries like Vietnam or Thailand shit costs next to nothing and its blandness actually kinda works in its favour because you can just buy a ton and eat it like chewable water.
>>744522847The problem isn't "fandom" its the specific person. Besides, didn't UTY do that already.
>>744523298Maybe Grillby is just that weak, or he's allergic to water
>>744523474All fire is allergic to water. Except alkali metal fire. So maybe Luzma could eat some elemental potassium to gain temporary water resistance.
>>744523410I was shitposting, but I'm not sure what references to the fandom there could be, something like Togore?
>>744523291>>744523345If Grillby can live in Snowdin which is surrounded by a forest, then fire elementals must have some higher level of control over their flamesAs long as they don't do something to lose that control then everyone should be fine with them
>>744523548Technically everything in a fangame is a reference to the fandom. But that could be anything from the Mikes, to Gizmo being hyped for the latest not!Deltarune chapter, to having a character like Red make a cameo in UTY.
>>744523540>So maybe Luzma could eat some elemental potassium to gain temporary water resistance.That would make her flames explode, making the problem worse for everyone else
>>744523708I keep forgetting Red shows up in UTY and actually knows about Martlet, that and that turtle-beaver thing from UTG showing up in the wild east, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a kid version of some UTY character in a future fangame
>>744523754Phosphorus then. She'll burn super hot and probably not be safe to touch until the phosphorus is all burned up, but she won't be put out.
>>744523901>wouldn't be surprised if we see a kid version of some UTY character in a future fangameWell, there is DRY
To those who read the Puzzle Corps stories: which members of the team did you like and which did you not care for? Were there any you actively disliked?
>>744523973Those are grown up versions of UTY character, I mean something like kid Martlet showing up in Cooking With Kindness
>>744524097Missed the "kid" part when reading your post, sorry.
>>744524089I'm gonna be honest with you Anon, I read that history and I don't remembe most of it, this isn't an insult at your writing or anything, I tend to forget a lot of stuff, I think there were a jackal and mummy cousins? Those guys seemed cool, I remember there being ancestors of Snowdrake and Aaron too, I didn't care much about those, they were pretty much the same characters from UT from what I recall.Are any of those guys going to show up in Oldentale?
>>744524292They could. I created them specifically for the story, but if people liked them enough or if I saw a space for them then they might show up in the game.
>>744523926That sounds too dangerous just to get a taste of water
>>744524963She can taste water anyways, that just makes her immune to the negative effectsBesides, danger is her middle name, or one of them anyways
I love these images where they turn the cast into their "real" counterparts
>>744525596Axis is once again completely unchanged
>>744526242He's like a horseshoe crab, you don't fix whats not broken
>>744513379Are you sure?https://youtu.be/0UhVwaPfhHM
>>744525596UTY if they real
>>744496874Starfruit contains neurotoxins?
>>744523345Monsters are a different species so its not really racism
>>744529905why the marley sad?
>>744530091Clober prolaby
>>744496874>jeet fruitgood morning saar
>>744530091got removed from her own game
>>744530434Despite the super transformation, that fight is pathetically easy to go through.
>>744530508It was a fake transformation anyway, it gave way more fight than it should
>>744530508I'd say its harder than the vast majority of undertale but I only died twice to her (almost got to the very end on my first try). Hearing people say she took them 20 plus tries, I assume a lot of people would have never beaten it if it was much harder
>>744530801>Hearing people say she took them 20 plus triesGood lord, she isn't even that hard, I assume everyone that had that much trouble with her never got to play the geno route since Zartlet is way harder than Roba
>>744531372Or they just took even more try to beat her. I've seen multiple people take days to beat Sans, and it took me 3 days to beat Jevil.
>>744498090starfruit is genuinely good if you spam itthe only plant that's more versatile is puff-shroom due to being free
>>744531426>Or they just took even more try to beat herI defeated Roba on my first attempt and it still took me days to beat Zartlet, I feel sorry for the people that fought Zartlet after struggling with Roba
What are some obscure monsters from folklore that could make fun UT monsters?
>>744531883Not entirely obscure but has there ever been a cockatrice monster?
>>744531883A nucklavee could be cool.
>>744496874I ate one of these like a corncob right off the tree in hawaii. Almost as watery as watermelon and pretty good
>>744532153>Not entirely obscure but has there ever been a cockatrice monster?No as far as I know, most monsters are just animals or weird things not based on anything specific, more specific mythological creatures are pretty rare>>744532241>A nucklavee could be cool.Would each head be a different character?
>>744532352Really makes me want to try one but I image it being fresh off the tree makes a lot of difference
>>744532241The wikipedia description doesn't paint a clear picture and google images gives nothing by ai slop. What is that?
>>744531883Not sure if obscure but I always thought the Lou Carcolh was pretty cool, I don't know of any other monster based on a snail
>>744532771What's it do?
>>744532713>What is that?Scottish skinless centaur-demon thing
>>744532550It's still quite good from the market
>>744532859Its a giant french snail/snake monster that grabs people with its hairy tentacles and eats them, apparently it prefers the taste of young people
>>744532241>>744532953This guy might be too demonic looking for UT
>>744533736You could make him look goofy. Apparently the horse has one single eye, so maybe have it be a horse with a pair of arms sprouting out of its back and a goofy cyclops face, and it crosses its arms like one of those edits where people give birds arms.
>>744532771well, I really do hate those hairy tentacles god damn.
>>744532771Aww, he's smiling :)
>>744532771>>744534925Reynault's long lost cousin
They changed Mooch's portraits again in the latest patch
>>744535297Still looks scuffed compared to the original, and they kept the new battle pose.
>>744532771Now turn it into a female scrimblo and watch anons talk about how much they want her tentacles on their dicks
>>744535297Not hideous, but still not great
>>744535297>the last one
>>744496874>>744498792I deserve revenge for what they did to me.
>>744537163This Martlet is naked and wearing boots only
>>744535297>>744536552Maybe if we send this to them they'll change it again
>>744537609well yeah, this is happening in our bedroom after all.Hmm, bedroom eyes. Birdroom eyes.
Things sure do look grim for fangames made outside this website.But please let me have at least one turboqt bnuuy companion.
>>744536438I already have plans in motion
>>744537768Watch the dev get outed as dating a girl who is exactly 2 months younger than him back in high school, and the whole game gets cancelled.
>>744536438I absolutely do not want hairy tentacles on my dick. Even if it's a girl monster I do not like those tentacle hairs.
>>744537908Couldn't >we attempt to convince them to come here or something? Though knowing our luck they're the type that would rather literally commit suicide IRL than ever admit to themselves they'd be in better company here than anywhere else.
>>744537816What?
>>744537930Maybe you could convince her to shave
>>744538193actively "recruiting" is against the spirit of this place. It's best if people find this place naturally, and come to adapt to what they see here. All we can do is continue trying to put good things out into the world and support a better way of thinking, and hope that the people who do learn about this place over time open their mind to the possibility that it's not so bad around here.
stealth deltarune therad delete this mods
>>744538271I already have plans for a tentacle faced monster girl
>>744538365>Maybe you could convince her to shaveit's gonna depend strongly on her personality since those hair tentacles are out in the open. >>744538394this is not in fact a stealth deltarune thread. But you probably already knew that.
>>744538193I feel like that would backfire and just invite raids. Or worse, maybe we'd end up like utg
>>744537768Given up on Wildfire already?
>>744538472>already?I don't think an entire year is "already".
>>744538456The kind of retardation from the outer fandom is different from the retardation you can find in /utg/
>>744538609Its really not. The longer time goes on, the more like them they become.
>>744538662I don't know, I haven't seen common redditors mutate into /utg/mites before
>>744513679Feel like making another one of these.Suggestions? Sadie and Melody have a rather limited selection of talksprites right now, but Kanako's are available. Even Cole got a bunch of fanmade ones.
>>744538875I was saying that UTG becomes more like reddit. You seen that screencap of the woman losing her mind over her friend getting married instead of getting an abortion? Or the Spamton period blood drawing? Its mostly women and trannies over there now.
>>744538472I meant "bnuuy" in "either-or" manner. Both Sirra and Luna are instantly likeable, even if for different reasons.>>744538456>raidsJust tell them to kill themselves and half of them probably will lmao. Actual leftists don't have enough spine to stand this place for extended periods of time.>utgWould require us being hit by very dedicated shitposters, which is way more likely from 4chan's permanent residents than outsiders.
>>744539027>that screencap of the woman losing her mind over her friend getting married instead of getting an abortion?nta, but what?
>>744518785No Kanako feels better than Sadie.
>>744539034Do we know anything about Luna? I don't care much for her since her design falls too much into "generic furry" territory
>>744539034you know, while that image is cute. I think making a "tobysona" is kind of weird. It's not a deal breaker or anything, it just feels funky. I know mangaka often make little persona animals too but it feels like they do that because it's ingrained into the culture, whereas this just feels like "well toby did it so..."
>>744539375Tobysonas are lame, the devs should try to form their own identity, UTY had the right idea with how the devs avatars were implemented
>>744497807Criminally underrated.
>>744539470>UTY had the right idea with how the devs avatars were implementedoh yeah the band right? That was a pretty cool approach
>>744539340>lost her mother and her arm in an unknown incident>anti-human racist (put these two together and she's likely Patience's victim)>determined to pursue martial arts for its own sake despite being a cripple
>>744538432fuck off you are posting your tranny game here
>>744540192I am not a tranny, I am a man with biological dick and balls. I enjoy video games, and I enjoy creative efforts. you are a prancing lala femboy who can't stand people enjoying things that are on topic and rule abiding. Begone to whatever twitter thread hellhole you prefer.
>>744540192>hall monitor crying as if he's not lower than everyone on this site by virtue of being a janny dicksucker
>>744538394They're hiding behind fangames to avoid deletion now, as if liking a tranny game isn't enough they need to consume slop from their fellow trannies.
>>744540069EhhI'll wait and see what else they got for her, I don't feel like investing in Lunacoin right now
>>744539262I didn't save it because I don't want to read that shit again, but it was some either tranny or femanon seething that her best friend (who was "obviously" closeted lesbian because of some "special moments" they had shared) got pregnant with her boyfriend and was going to marry him. She said she was desperately sending her addresses of abortion clinics and horror stories about failed marriages and none convinced her, then topped it all off by contemplating suicide.
>>744540415trannies will never belong in 4chan
>>744539375the dev can avatar that represents themselves, but they shouldn't just copy the annoying dog.
>>744540545>They're hiding behind fangames>hiding behind>even though the discussion is indeed all about fangamesyou behave like a tranny, trying to get rid of everything that you don't personally like to make the world less painful for your mental illness at every turn.
>>744540545anon we've been having these weekly threads for about two years now.
>>744540671then why are you still here?
>>744540671Sharteens will never belong anywhere. You can't even go back to the sharty since they rangebanned the third world.>>744540651How pathetic.
>>744540651oh fucking hell I actually remember seeing this once. Jesus christ.
>>744524089>Puzzle Corps storiesWasn't there just the one, the long one?Anyway, it's been a while since I read it, but from what I remember, none of them were really bad or anything, but I thought the guy with the seaweed hair or whatever was a little one-note, if anything. Unless I've horribly misremembered something, in which case I have no useful information to give.As for the characters I liked, I'm going to not count Reynault in this because I believe I have already expressed my thoughts on him sufficiently before, but I thought the protagonist was cool. I forget whether or not he's the one who ends up getting one over on Reynault by the end, by snatching the feather from his hat.>>744524710>I created them specifically for the story, but if people liked them enough or if I saw a space for them then they might show up in the game.I hope Reynault wasn't one of the ones created just for that.
>>744541074I have to wonder how those people ended up on 4chan to begin with, when the culture is vehemently opposed to them. Maybe they were just so unstable that Reddit wouldn't have them.
>>744539262>>744540651>>744540940>>744541074>>744541174'ere ya go>>>/adv/34778795
>>744524089oh shit I missed this post.I remember not caring much for the drake guy?it's been a second since I read it but while his scene where he was getting styled on by reynault was good itself, I didn't care for the character himself.
>>744541135>Wasn't there just the one, the long one?There were two>I hope Reynault wasn't one of the ones created just for that.No, Reynault was one of my earliest ideas for Oldentale. The puzzle corps and the rest of its members I just improvised on the spot for that story.
>>744541208>posted 2 days agoso this IS a repost right? because I remember seeing it in the past.
>>744541261>There were twoTwo?Huh, I only remembered one.Where's the other one?>No, Reynault was one of my earliest ideas for Oldentale.Good, good.>The puzzle corps and the rest of its members I just improvised on the spot for that story.Well, decent improvisation then.
>>744541208Oh, nevermind then. I guess that's /adv/ insanity. utg still did do that spamton period blood thing though, and Mexican Ralsei getting deported.
>>744540832>having a general for two yearsHopefully the janny starts wisening up to your stealth threads.
>>744541358>Where's the other one?Its the one where Reynault gets captured.
>>744541396if a weekly thread is a general then that means the weekly famitsu threads have to go, and they should go first since they're less ontopic than video game discussion.
>>744541429Oh, that one.Yeah, I guess I just didn't mentally group the two, since that one focuses more on just Reynault specifically rather than the Puzzle Corps in general.That one was good though.
>>744541396>>having a general for two yearshaving a thread once or twice a week is not a general, by the rules. You know this, I know this. We shouldn't be responding to someone who's intentionally trying to eat up post limit because you just personally dislike video games.
>>744540069This Luna girl has went through as many redesigns as chinese Kanako
>>744541665yeah, but they actually settled on one before they released the demo and stuck with it.
>>744541741You sure?Sounds like they've been taking their sweet time as of late, could be making all sorts of wacky design changes behind the scenes.
>>744541741I was pretty sure they changed her design one last time after the demo released
>>744541461>whataboutismThat can go, too.
>>744541665
>>744542042too bad she was a lesbian
>>744542042>furious ejaculation feelinggood lordAlso it's painful being a man of the thigh, and so much thigh focused art out there is just hyper exagerrated instead of just good lovely thighs.I don't even mean actual hyper art because that's it's own thing with it's own fans, but more like the "generic twitter artist drawing thighs" nonsense.
>>744541924>janny cocksucker is also a famitsufag
>>744542159I'm genuinely curious if any of the fangames around here will bite the bullet and have a token lesbian character.Or alternatively, if none of them do, do you think anyone outside these threads will get mad that there isn't a lesbian character in any of the fangames?
>>744542646you know, honestly I don't have a conceptual problem with a lesbian character being a thing. it's just something that's been handled so horribly by nearly everything that it gets a reaction.I'd be surprised honestly if there were any in local fangames but I wouldn't give the dev grief over it personally if his writing was any better than toby's on that front.I think we've already shown that people here can handle gay characters with more tact than the wider fandom.
>>744542750>you know, honestly I don't have a conceptual problem with a lesbian character being a thing. it's just something that's been handled so horribly by nearly everything that it gets a reaction.Yeah, there's nothing wrong with them inherently, they just haven't got the best track record when it comes to UTDR stuff, is all.>I think we've already shown that people here can handle gay characters with more tact than the wider fandom.I didn't think there were any gay characters around here.
>>744542646>I'm genuinely curious if any of the fangames around here will bite the bullet and have a token lesbian characterI actually thought of making one of my characters a lesbian, why? Because sometimes I get random ideas and I just go "why not?" but Deltarune has given me a heavy lesbian fatigue to the point that idea got scrapped immediately, I don't have this problem with gay characters
>>744542874>I didn't think there were any gay characters around here.Closest we got is that Shu X Luzen joke that got taken more seriously as the posts went on, which shows that there's a number of posters that do in fact take gay relationship seriously, there's also those Reynault x Anon greens
>>744542897Huh, interesting.So, you scrapped the character, or just them being a lesbian?
>>744542646>Or alternatively, if none of them do, do you think anyone outside these threads will get mad that there isn't a lesbian character in any of the fangames?Doubt, they didn't get mad at UTY for it, but UTY had a token enby in the form of Moray, who knows, they might raise an eyebrow if there's zero "queer" characters in the fangames
>>744542874>I didn't think there were any gay characters around here.I know not everyone likes the Shuzen stuff, but I feel like it kept the characters as something more than just "gay props" than what you'd see from anything outside of here. I think it was said that reynault of all people might be open to things like that (aside from the one anon loving him ever so)I believe there are more, but I feel the "gay prop" thing is an issue that honestly most "gay positive" people outside of here really suffer from. "reducing a character to being gay" rather than making a character who is gay as a natural part of who he is.and the problem is a lot of those people think what I'm saying is that I'm saying the character must hide their gayness rather than just have more to their personality than a love of cocks.
>>744542897>but Deltarune has given me a heavy lesbian fatigueI think also a part of the lesbian fatigue issue, is that corporations saw lesbians as the "safe" way to show they were "hip and with it" and so a lot of things in the last 10 years have had these awkwardly forced lesbian relationships.
>>744543074>So, you scrapped the character, or just them being a lesbian?Just being a lesbian, that was a minor detail that stuck to my head for a while, I come up with those details from time to time and I usually end integrating them into the character, but for this one instance it had to be scrapped, I'm not doing Toby's job for him
>>744543064>Closest we got is that Shu X Luzen joke that got taken more seriously as the posts went onOh, I thought you were referring to "canon" gay characters around here.Yeah, the Shuzen stuff's alright, better than a lot of what the official stuff or other fanworks tend to do, even if it's still kinda a joke.>there's also those Reynault x Anon greensWell, that's a slightly different thing too, but I guess that counts, even if it's just two anons in particular writing them.
>>744543352>Oh, I thought you were referring to "canon" gay characters around here.Well Oldentale anon pretty much confirmed that Reynault is bisexual so there's that
>>744542750Lesbians have permanently become a turnoff for me in media because of Toby, Adventure Time, and Hollywood movies overdoing it. Genuinely never want to see another fictional lesbian in my life. IRL ones are fine, just can't stand them in movies or vidya.
>>744542646They'll probably just headcanon a bunch of characters as lesbians
>>744543457Same, you just know that when a story has a female main character the chances of her being a lesbian are astronomically high, pretty much all the women MCs in big western games are lesbians, its absurd
>>744542646Occasionally, and I mean like maybe once every six or so months someone in a YouTube comment section or the game jolt will complain.
>>744543423I haven't confirmed anything, just said it doesn't feel that out of character if he were. Whether he is or isn't I leave up to your IMAGINination
>>744543514Imagine>Wikitsy>Luzedo>Kanalody
>>744543207>I know not everyone likes the Shuzen stuff, but I feel like it kept the characters as something more than just "gay props" than what you'd see from anything outside of here.Yeah, I think it focused more on actually fleshing out the characters involved than a lot of ships like that usually tend to, at least outside of here.>I think it was said that reynault of all people might be open to things like that I think it was moreso that he could "see" it being the case, rather than it necessarily actually being the case.>(aside from the one anon loving him ever so)Yeah, hi.>I believe there are more, but I feel the "gay prop" thing is an issue that honestly most "gay positive" people outside of here really suffer from. "reducing a character to being gay" rather than making a character who is gay as a natural part of who he is.As a person who is into men (bisexual, I guess), I actually agree wholeheartedly. I think a person's sexuality, in both fictional media and real life, should just be one aspect of who they are, not their primary personality trait.In fictional media, that makes a character feel extremely flat and one-dimensional, with their writing centering around a single trait that isn't too interesting by itself, and in real life, it just makes that person annoying.
>>744543708I can appreciate this approach.
>>744543708That's more confirmation than what we have with UTY characters and some UT/DR characters too
>>744543715Anon, I want you to know that I actually gagged at those first two.Never say anything ever again.
>>744543715Toby...
Let's play a game of catbox roulette.Zenith Martlet showing her butt and inviting you.https://files.catbox.moe/i8ppxq.png
>>744543801You know that If the fangames get any traction outside of this site it will happen, you can't stop the lesbian ships, no matter if the characters have zero chemistry or barely share any screentime, that didn't stop feathered mask or corn yaoi from existing
>>744543871>https://files.catbox.moe/i8ppxq.pngThis is what it says on the tin, its also art from 1 or 2 years ago
>>744543754>I think it was moreso that he could "see" it being the case, rather than it necessarily actually being the case.I didn't want to put words in oldentale anons mouth but it seems I was still too assumptive. either way the point was that I feel like when anons here are trying to depict characters as gay, they still want that character to be "who they are" and not just "this gay object that looks like character.">As a person who is into men (bisexual, I guess), I actually agree wholeheartedly. I think a person's sexuality, in both fictional media and real life, should just be one aspect of who they are, not their primary personality trait.I've met gay people who their entire sense of self revolves around that gayness, and they always seem like miserable unhappy people, but then I've met people who are very openly gay, but they didn't base their self worth on that and instead exhibit traits and values like any normal person (well, one of them is unhealthily into yugioh but we all have our vices), and I find myself not thinking "oh this is my gay friend" but rather "this is so and so."so while "one note people" do exist, I think that's not something the writing should ever be striving for because those are deeply damaged people who are coping by making that their entire personality I think.>In fictional media, that makes a character feel extremely flat and one-dimensional, with their writing centering around a single trait that isn't too interesting by itself, and in real life, it just makes that person annoying.ah yeah exactly this puts it well. When a person is like that in real life it just makes me think "oh fucking hell go away." and I'd feel that way about a good number of different things if it was all there was to that persons personality. it makes me think of how both dave and karkats personality took a nosedive when they got together
>>744543871Cole knocking up Kanako and Sadie, while gizmo watches in the background.https://files.catbox.moe/7hxppv.jpg
>>744543514Who will be hit the hardest with the lesbian curse among the local fangames? I think in the case of UTY Ceroba gets more targeted by the lesbian crowd than Martlet
>>744544171>https://files.catbox.moe/7hxppv.jpgAh fuck, I lost the game, its not anything disgusting, just an image with a "gotcha bitch" text
>>744544051>I didn't want to put words in oldentale anons mouth but it seems I was still too assumptive.Yeah, I don't think he'd ever go out of his way to confirm something like that, seems out of character for him.>either way the point was that I feel like when anons here are trying to depict characters as gay, they still want that character to be "who they are" and not just "this gay object that looks like character."I think that's because the anons around here usually like the characters here for their personalities and writing, while those are seen as more malleable and disposable to people outside of here, hence all the people who were okay with Susie getting lobotomized to be so painfully one-note in the recent chapter.>I've met gay people who their entire sense of self revolves around that gayness, and they always seem like miserable unhappy people, but then I've met people who are very openly gay, but they didn't base their self worth on that and instead exhibit traits and values like any normal person (well, one of them is unhealthily into yugioh but we all have our vices), and I find myself not thinking "oh this is my gay friend" but rather "this is so and so."Yeah, sexuality shouldn't ever be all a person is, it's just one part of who you are.>spoilerAnd Rose and Kanaya. And Terezi and Vriska, and Jake and Dir-Look, who do you think Toby got it from?Hussie was probably training Toby in the ways of shitty romance writing in that basement like a Sith lord.
>>744544220Luzma will absolutely get lesbian shipped, that horrible "luzedo" thing anon said will come to pass.people can't let a woman be strong and confident without making her lesbian. it's like a strange version of infantilizing where they have to add the manly trait of fucking women or else this strong woman can't be strong.It's funny how most peoples ideas of making a woman strong does not allow her to be strong "in a feminine way". I don't know if anyone would agree with me on this, but I felt Ripley from Alien is a good example of a woman who comes across as feminine but still strong in how her force of will gets her through things and helps her persevere. I also feel like a lot of feminine strength is shown in how a woman with the right mindset can weather terrible times and be a strong pillar to those around her. Men can too but, there's a unique feeling to it with women that feels realistic here?
>>744544220For Oldentale, either Wiki or Kitsy, and for Naranja, probably Luzma.They'll lock on to these character's strong (physical) traits and disregard their personalities to suit their own needs, just like with Suselle.
>>744544171Anon in the Yamcha pose after Zenith Martlet flattens him with her ass.https://files.catbox.moe/mykxy9.png
>>744544640this one doesn't even need to be catboxed
>>744544415>I felt Ripley from Alien is a good example of a woman who comes across as feminine but still strong in how her force of will gets her through things and helps her persevere.NTA, but I think you're completely right with this.Ripley's probably one of the most well written female characters in mainstream media, because she's written like an actual person, as opposed to just being a woman and nothing else.Okay, I don't have a source on this, but I swear I remember something from the original writers of Alien saying that the way they wrote Ripley so well was by first writing her as a man, and then just making her a woman, and changing nothing else. Like, just writing a complete character with an actual personality, the way most male characters are written, and just applying that to a woman, to make the end result a fleshed out character still.I think that's maybe a good idea, I dunno.
>>744544673Dude were you not paying attention? The anon literally said they're doing a catbox roulette game.Putting the image in the catbox is the whole point.
>>744544383>hence all the people who were okay with Susie getting lobotomized to be so painfully one-note in the recent chapter.yeah probably, and even people who claim she wasn't acting out of character because to them like you said, that character was putty in their hands in the first place, even if they'd not admit that. (I really dislike these people to be honest god damn)>And Rose and Kanaya. And Terezi and Vriska, and Jake and Dir-fuck, I was even talking to someone about rose and kanaya being a travesty in the same vein last night but it slipped my mind. I memory hoe terezi and vriska honestly, but I really dislike vriska.>jake and dir-I think honestly, that Dirk is the only one that manages to stay being "himself" through all of that but it comes TERRIBLY at jakes expense like holy shit they butcher that poor guy. Then agian I'm not 100 percent sure dirk is still in character, but he still does feel like A character. >Hussie was probably training Toby in the ways of shitty romance writing in that basement like a Sith lord."powers some might call... unnatural"
>>744544383
>>744544853Yeah?Wassup?
>>744544640the yamcha pose is really funny to me even if yamcha got done dirty.>>744544383>Yeah, sexuality shouldn't ever be all a person is, it's just one part of who you are.oh and forgot to reply to that, but definitely. this applies to straight people as much as gay people but people will just hit you with "well when straight people do it."
>>744544528>Wiki or Kitsy,I have the feeling they'll latch more to Wiki, Kitsy is too "streamer coded" and those girls are very straight, they'll probably say that Wiki has "repressed lesbian energy" or something because of her timid nature>Luzma.She will get the Susie treatment, and I'm not talking about just being a lesbian, one look at esix is everything you need to know
>>744544767>spoilersprobably comes across as horribly sexist to some people but by making sure to give her a personality, and then for sigourney weaver to just play her with all of her personality and natural femininity (I may have a thing for her giving me some bias but Alien is pretty good so I think she earns it here) she maybe completes the puzzle making a fully fledged female character.Also a good point to makeif you haven't watched the movie before, you can't tell she's the main character at first. it totally comes across as one of the guys and not because she is weak, but because the whole cast is flavorful. I'm not actually sure if I can say aliens is better than alien, both are good but man.
>>744544640Cole low on health after he's gone 8 straight rounds with Kanako.https://files.catbox.moe/gbucpv.png
>>744544820I know, but I thought all the images that are what they say on the tin would be NSFW
>>744544827>yeah probably, and even people who claim she wasn't acting out of character because to them like you said, that character was putty in their hands in the first place, even if they'd not admit that.A lot of people who are extremely into shipping don't actually care about the characters involved and just want them to be together, regardless of how well they actually work together as a romantic pairing, but like you said, they'll never say as much.>(I really dislike these people to be honest god damn)Same boat as the rest of us, anon.>fuck, I was even talking to someone about rose and kanaya being a travesty in the same vein last night but it slipped my mind. I memory hoe terezi and vriska honestly, but I really dislike vriska.Yeah, see?So bad your mind wanted to forget.I have more to say on some of that stuff, especially Vriska, but that would be off topic.Just know that I agree with you, and also that I think bringing Vriska back to deal with the Game Over arc was fucking stupid and she should've stayed dead.>Then agian I'm not 100 percent sure dirk is still in character, but he still does feel like A character.True, he is still a person, but you know.>"powers some might call... unnatural"And just like a Sith, Toby would then go on to betray Hussie, by becoming more powerful and popular than he ever was. And then he killed him in his sleep or something, I dunno.Uh.
>>744545054>https://files.catbox.moe/gbucpv.pngGoddammit I lost the game again
>>744544951>they'll probably say that Wiki has "repressed lesbian energy" or something because of her timid natureOh, god.I hate that, I hate how plausible it sounds.>She will get the Susie treatment, and I'm not talking about just being a lesbian, one look at esix is everything you need to knowOhhhh, god.Okay, let's stop talking about this, forever, this is a bad subject and I hate it.
>>744543708Probably the best way of handling it, if he isn't confirmed as being anything one way or the other, but of course I have my biases.
>>744544415>Luzma will absolutely get lesbian shipped, that horrible "luzedo" thing anon said will come to pass.You just know [[[they/them]]] will use Bedo as a self insert for that ship too>People can't let a woman be strong and confident without making her lesbian.Probably because they see a woman being in a relationship with a man as something inherently "submissive" which undermines her as a "strong" character
>>744545054Martlet and Zenith Martlet duo piece showing the differences between them.https://files.catbox.moe/5jhs0g.jpg
>>744545428>https://files.catbox.moe/5jhs0g.jpgI didn't expect them to be wearing bikinis, this could have been lewder
>>744543715>WikitsyYou lack the required context to know why this would be funny
>>744545428Ceroba staring at Martlet's massive breasts and wanting to suck on them.https://files.catbox.moe/rhpltd.png
>>744545574if those two hate each other or something like that then that will only add fuel to the inevitable ship
>>744545653one of the few female/female images that I actually find hot for some reason
>>744545653Zenith Martlet spread eagle for the viewer.https://files.catbox.moe/j6djly.png
>>744544767>spoilerisn't that how you're always meant to write characters? I never understood why the character being a woman suddenly means the character must be written in an entirely different way
>>744545371>You just know [[[they/them]]] will use Bedo as a self insert for that ship tooI like Bedo, but the idea of someone self-inserting as her feels weirdly unsavory to me, somehow.>Probably because they see a woman being in a relationship with a man as something inherently "submissive" which undermines her as a "strong" characterYeah, that's about right.How much you wanna bet they'll ship her mostly with women to prevent her from being "submissive", only to then portray her as being something that needs to be "tamed" or "fixed", like her strength makes her a wild beast or something?Cause I've seen that a ton with Suselle.
>>744546060one of those images by the Martlet Drawanon, no unbirthing included
>>744546060I don't think you know what "spread eagle" means.
>>744505514is this the shopkeeper that keeps hitting the desk with her head?
>>744546114>isn't that how you're always meant to write characters?Yes, yes it is.Doesn't mean most people do it though.
>>744546060Chujin wanting to kill Cole after finding out that he slept with his daughter Kanako.https://files.catbox.moe/ullw6t.jpg
>>744546387I knew this one would be a gotcha, yet I still clicked on it
>>744546387Ceroba envious of how big Martlet's breasts are.https://files.catbox.moe/h1m03b.jpg
>>744546178>but the idea of someone self-inserting as her feels weirdly unsavory to me, somehow.She's a fat neet, I don't think the Undertale fanbase has a lack of those>How much you wanna bet they'll ship her mostly with women to prevent her from being "submissive", only to then portray her as being something that needs to be "tamed" or "fixed", like her strength makes her a wild beast or something?Well, duh, men "fixing" women is misogynist, which is evil, but girls fixing girls is either toxic yuri or wholesome yuri which is the ultimate good in this fandom
>>744498851>Still say "don't hit the camera, man" when two people are sperging out having an arguement or fight.
>>744546593>https://files.catbox.moe/h1m03b.jpgAlright I fell for it again, are you happy?
>>744546593A literal catbox link to an image saying gotcha.https://files.catbox.moe/1koycq.jpg
>>744546603>She's a fat neet, I don't think the Undertale fanbase has a lack of thoseI know, but, there's just something about the idea that feels inherently bad.I'd say it's because I think Bedo has more potential and capacity for change than a lot of people who would project themselves onto her, but that'd just be pretentious of me.>Well, duh, men "fixing" women is misogynist, which is evil, but girls fixing girls is either toxic yuri or wholesome yuri which is the ultimate good in this fandomOh, Christ.I know we talk about all these things in jest, but I kinda legitimately dread the day the wider internet becomes aware of the fangames here, just for the sheer amount of "they would not fucking say/do that" that we'll have to endure for the rest of time.I know I shouldn't have such an attachment to the various scrimblos around here, they aren't even my characters, but the thought of having to see everyone else outside of here mangling them, god.It's gonna be hell, I can tell you that.
>>744546841I refuse to state whether I opened or not that link
>>744544383>Hussie was probably training Toby in the ways of shitty romance writing in that basement like a Sith lord.>Good... Toby, good...>Now ship them>Ship them now>DEWIT
>>744546293yes!Honeydew shopkeeper or possibly "Bero"
>>744547065That implies Toby put up even the slightest amount of resistance to the idea at first.
>>744546841Alternate UTY Game Over screen with Martlet, Clover and Flowey.https://files.catbox.moe/5p5dmc.gif
>>744547270>https://files.catbox.moe/5p5dmc.gifI will never stop opening these, someone needs to warn about the contents of the links, that being said I fell for it again
>>744547270Now, the catbox roullette is a bit funny, but now you're just chewing through the post limit with it.
>>744546906>just for the sheer amount of "they would not fucking say/do that" that we'll have to endure for the rest of time.I can already imagine the fangame characters with pride flags of all colors, like in that infamous CWK pic
>>744547367Fair enough, in that case I'll do two more, then I'll leave it at that.
>>744547441It always amazed me that someone could come away from things like southpark with depictions like those, but seeing the bastardization of characters every single day across every and any fandom it starts to make more "sense". Hell, running tabletop, we took a long break from a campaign and came back to it again, one player fell back into the rythm of "who" his character was while the other just turned his into characters from the last anime he'd watched without realizing it. I think there's something interesting there with all of the people cheering on redesigns and remasters and stuff like that. some kind of connective thread.
>>744547270Cole about to get dominated by Kanako.https://files.catbox.moe/an9zx0.png
>>744546906>they would not fucking say/do that" tImagine them pulling that shit on us though. Like imagine you're out somewhere and you say something about Luzma or Reynault, and get hit with the "they would not do that" by someone who very obviously just doesn't *want* them to do that. Hell, imagine its something that you know as a fact they have done, but you can't share it because it was require linking the threads.
>>744547345For someone to warn about them, someone needs to read them, and unfortunately, you're the only one opening every single catbox link. So it looks like you've just volunteered.
>>744547720Sometimes I wonder what those people like about the characters in the first place, the designs? the idea? what they do on screen? do they just make up their own versions of the characters in their head and roll with that?
>>744547919>ike imagine you're out somewhere and you say something about Luzma or Reynault, and get hit with the "they would not do that" by someone who very obviously just doesn't *want* them to do that.The federal government would frown on what I would say I'd do if that ever happened.
>>744547901>https://files.catbox.moe/an9zx0.pngFor once this is actually porn
>>744547997NTA, but I think it usually is just the general idea of the characters they latch onto, rather than who the characters really are.Again, Suselle really does make an excellent example for this kind of behavior, because if you went back in time and showed off the lake scene to people before chapter 5 came out, people would have called it the most extreme flanderization of all time, but Suselle shippers ate it up like nothing.
>>744548041>The federal government would frown on what I would say I'd do if that ever happened.Reynault would never ever say a slur even if he did it only to make someone mad and didn't really care about the meaning of the word!
>>744547901Here's the last catbox roulette.Ceroba expecting Clover Ketsukane.Are you willing to risk it?https://files.catbox.moe/3y4vjh.png
>>744548518>but Suselle shippers ate it up like nothing.Yuri shippers have insanely low standards you could replace Susie with Catti in that scene and they would still eat it upAll you need to please them is show two girls blushing next to each other
>>744548597Well, it is an unbirth image of Ceroba by the Martlet drawanonI did it, I protected everyone in this thread, my plight is finally over, I can rest now
>>744548550>Reynault would never ever say a slur even if he did it only to make someone mad and didn't really care about the meaning of the word!Honestly, not to sound too woke or anything, but I feel like Reynault might not use slurs to anger people too much just because they might be a bit too cheap, there's no skill involved, any old simpleton could call someone a faggot or a retard to piss them off, it doesn't require any serious thought behind it.Like how he prefers to use trickery and misdirection to get the better of people, as opposed to just cleanly John Wick-ing people or something, I think he values his own fun a bit too much to be so crass straight away.I'm sure Oldentale anon will come right in to tell me I'm wrong though, but that's just the idea I get from him, based on what I've seen of him.
>>744548597That's the end of the catbox roulette game everyone. Until the next time.Here's an image of me laughing at you, and not a new image of Zenith Martlet with her breasts out.https://files.catbox.moe/12azxm.jpg
>>744548897Maybe he uses them when he's feeling lazy or when he knows it will get someone more mad than anything
>>744549009Hm, yeah, maybe.That gives the mental image of him being like "You're not worth the time or effort it would take to construct an elaborate jab for, I'm just going to call you a retard and we'll call it a day, oui?"But, you know, with more frenglish.
>>744547997there's also the "fandom" sense in a whole where sometimes people want to be a part of something just because it's "something". Maybe they know someone who made it their personality and made it theirs as well and so on.
>>744548897Ok, but racial slurs are really funny, almost entirely because they alert the horde.
>>744514057fruitfucker
>>744549462Eh, I think they're a bit effortless.Plus, they don't work on white people, which means that there really isn't any angle for anyone to hit me back from if I use one, and I personally think it's more fun to get the better of someone while starting from an even playing field than from an inherent advantage.
>>744549594mm, we don't have any fruit based monsters, do we?
>>744549669Maybe not around here, but there was Luzen.
>>744549631All I can think of is that video of that black woman on a subway calling some girl "white bitch" a dozen times, then the "white bitch" in question calls her a nigger as the doors are closing, and half the train car turns feral and starts clawing at the door.I think he would probably find more creative ways to upset people over racial issues, but the word of power would be his trump card.
>>744549738
sadly a small animal passed away against the side of my house. It made me want to write something about the monsters that knew clover recognizing the smell of death from having returned to that terrace and being extremely bothered even if the animal was a stray, but as I think about it the idea bothers me a lot. I don't imagine most monsters are ready for experiencing death as it happens to biological creatures. it must be horrifying in a way that dusting fails to capture, even if dusting is more personally harrowing.
>>744549738Luzen is a cheese not a fr-oh wait, that's actually pretty funny
I think character design should follow a general hierarchy >Tone- it should fit the setting, even a good design can be hindered if it's placed in the wrong game>Aesthetics- Very subjective and takes skill but something that plain looks good by the standards of art. Be it a mixture of color, shape, or whatever. A lot of the time it doesn't matter if it makes sense>Informative- It tells you about the character's story preferably in an interesting way.Wait is this some kind of stealth thread that doesn't care about my gay opinions?
>>744549781>All I can think of is that video of that black woman on a subway calling some girl "white bitch" a dozen times, then the "white bitch" in question calls her a nigger as the doors are closing, and half the train car turns feral and starts clawing at the door.I think I saw an edit of that with COD Zombie noises instead.But yeah, that is funny.>I think he would probably find more creative ways to upset people over racial issues, but the word of power would be his trump card.Well, I'd hope he wouldn't use it too often at least, just to retain a certain amount of sophistication to it.That train car example is humorous, but if the white woman had been as vitriolic and rabid as her verbal assailant, it wouldn't have the same impact, as then they'd both just look like feral animals.That's the key component of any slur, superiority. Overuse it, and you lose that power.
>>744549891>I don't imagine most monsters are ready for experiencing death as it happens to biological creatures. it must be horrifying in a way that dusting fails to capture, even if dusting is more personally harrowingIn UTY at least we know that there are actual animals in the Underground. I have a hard time picturing how monsters would react to the death of biological creatures, we know that Chujin was apparently traumatized after seeing Integrity's corpse.
>>744550070No, I think your insight here is valuable.A lot of this thread is still about character design, just some very specific characters.
>>744550070>Wait is this some kind of stealth thread that doesn't care about my gay opinions?actually this thread definitely cares about those opinions as they are very relevant.I guess though I'd ask, why does aesthetics take place over informative? Would you say that if it's informative but lacks aesthetic quality that it's more of a problem than the other way around?A lot of people around here do a lot of character design so I think what you're saying is of interest.
>>744550070>Informative- It tells you about the character's story preferably in an interesting way.mm, I question if Aesthetics should be above informative, a lot of the designs in Concord failed not only because they were ugly as hell but because they failed to tell you anything about the character's role>Wait is this some kind of stealth thread that doesn't care about my gay opinions?I do care about your gay opinion anon
>>744550127I remember Dinas snakes, but she's the only person we see with something like that, and I think she even points it out that it's unusual of her or something right? I'd imagine some monsters might be grounded enough to deal with it, but I think a lot might react like chujin.hell even worse, if it's not freshly dead then that's going to be a heavy blow for some monsters.
>>744550272>and I think she even points it out that it's unusual of her or something right?I think she mentions there being some other small critters like birds, I don't remember if she says that they are unusual>I'd imagine some monsters might be grounded enough to deal with it, but I think a lot might react like chujin.Some monsters might have some thoughts about it thanks to human media, but no amount of fiction can really prepare you for the smell>hell even worse, if it's not freshly dead then that's going to be a heavy blow for some monsters.I hope Clover's body was found shortly after he gave away his soul, because if not then there's probably a really traumatized monster in New Home now.
>>744550447>Some monsters might have some thoughts about it thanks to human media, but no amount of fiction can really prepare you for the smellyeah that's true, it's not like anything else except well, things that intentionally mimic it.>I think she mentions there being some other small critters like birds, I don't remember if she says that they are unusualand honestly it makes sense that there would be SOME kind of animals underground but I'm willing to bet that a lot of monsters aren't "up close and personal" familiar with it.>I hope Clover's body was found shortly after he gave away his soul, because if not then there's probably a really traumatized monster in New Home now.There was that "not your fault" comic I remember about the gang seeing his decomposed corpse and it's pretty edgy. Starlos dialogue in it always felt a bit odd to me but eh they're all freaking out so whatever.Maybe I might do something a bit less edgy about Martlet or Ceroba holding a returned clover tight one day as he complains about them squeezing the air out of him, because something took them back to that moment.
>>744542042based
>>744550615>and honestly it makes sense that there would be SOME kind of animals underground but I'm willing to bet that a lot of monsters aren't "up close and personal" familiar with it.There's snails too in Undertale, invertebrate animals are probably common enough but birds and snakes must be pretty rare>There was that "not your fault" comic I remember about the gang seeing his decomposed corpse and it's pretty edgy. Starlos dialogue in it always felt a bit odd to me but eh they're all freaking out so whatever.I don't think I've seen that comic before, do you have it?>Maybe I might do something a bit less edgy about Martlet or Ceroba holding a returned clover tight one day as he complains about them squeezing the air out of him, because something took them back to that moment.Sounds good
>>744550936>There's snails too in Undertale, invertebrate animals are probably common enough but birds and snakes must be pretty rarethat makes sense, invertebrates get around pretty well.>I don't think I've seen that comic before, do you have it?let me see if I can find it in my folder. I heard the artist nuked her(?) account but I'm not sure.
>>744542646I think you might be taking lesbian characters a little too seriously. But ideally, every character should complement or drive the story and its themes forward. Sexual orientation is just another tool to achieve that
>>744551158Sorry anon, but Toby fox and the UT/DR fandom has given everyone here severe lesbian fatigue, you just know the character is going to be shit when she shows interest in another woman, because the writer's IQ drop whenever he works his fetish into the story
>>744551158>Sexual orientation is just another tool to achieve thatOh, I'm well aware, but take one look at the broader fandom and tell me that *they* know that.
>>744550175>>744550257Yeah, like preferably your design accomplishes all three to a degree. I say that aesthetics take precedence because there's some really good designs that really have no information on the character beyond maybe some really self-referential shit like "is a superhero" and is clearly just designed to be an eye-catching balance of colors and shapes. Like top of my head, style over substance vidya character is 2B. Great design but very openly designed because it's sleek and sexy while being sleek and sexy is totally irrelevant to 2B. Tells me nothing about her actual purpose, I'd never be able to guess any deeper details beyond "she um...uses a sword. However only an idiot would disagree that she's since become an iconic design and the game wouldn't be the same if they made her look more like a shocktroop battlebot.
Here's the three parts of the physical Luzma/Anon "greentext" I did a little bit ago, for anyone who missed it and wants to see it. Written on paper, by candlelight, because my power was out for three days consecutively and I had no other real options.Page 1: https://files.catbox.moe/sw85jw.pngPage 2: https://files.catbox.moe/s06qj6.jpgPage 3: https://files.catbox.moe/c9zxyz.png
>>744551761I guess 2B's design makes a good point of "style over substance", she does have a better justification with the added context of her being an android, so technically she could be wearing anything and her performance in battle wouldn't change.
>>744551761Hmm, I can definitely see where you're coming from, but I don't think it works universally. Yoko taros games THRIVE on being style over substance, which not ever game can do, and I'd argue that not every game 'should' do. It works really well where it works, but I think it would get old fast if everything did his approach which stands out for how strange it is compared to most other things out there.>However only an idiot would disagree that she's since become an iconic design and the game wouldn't be the same if they made her look more like a shocktroop battlebot.yeah I can agree with that in Niers case, but I think some things benefit more from the other approach.
>>744550936Haven't been able to find all of the comic and I think I may have been right about the creator wiping their online presence, but here's I think the image that inspired them to go on to make the comic?
>>744552343still think its fuckin' crazy they just decided to let Clover commit seppuku because prequel plot demanded it. Even crazier that the funeral raft ended up in the fucking dumpster
>>744552053Sleeping with a fire elemental girl during a cold night would fix me
>>744552343Where's Dalv's reaction?
>>744552735I don't think he was in this comic (as ever before, Dalv is tragically forgotten)would be nice to see more stuff with his reaction to all of this depicted.
>>744550127>Chujin was apparently traumatized after seeing Integrity's corpse.To be fair, Axis blew her head off
>>744552810Do Martlet and Dalv exchange words in UTY? I don't remember if it was Ceroba or Martlet who talks with him in the epilogue
>>744552626I get that they were trying to line things up and all that, and making his items show up in the dump fits undertales dialogue sure,but it totally fucks with the tone of the ending
>>744552149Yeah I had the caveat of tone also like if 2B waltzed into a super grounded military shooter or some shit I'd be like "the fuck is this". There's no actual rule about this and there's good designs that will lean heavier in either directions. It's just my personal opinion that a lot of good designs place more importance on if an element of the design looks interesting than if it makes practical sense or tells anything about the character.
>>744553129well, then yeah I can see that. God knows we had enough brown an bloom games a ways back that despite everything being coherent, said nothing and meant nothing visually
>>744552909just went and checked, Ceroba martlet and starlo all have lines directly with him.
>>744552053Ah, thanks for putting these together, sorry I know I said I'd do it but I hadn't gotten around to it.
>>744553384It's cool, just felt like sharing them again since things slowed down for a bit.
>>744553026Why did they think that giving him a viking funeral would be a good idea? Humans are meant to be buried
>>744553767They didn't have his body in the boat, just his items.
>>744553767maybe the devs just assume someone put his body in the coffin but still wanted a "funeral", but were too squeemish to show his dead fucking body lowered into that stone coffinbecause god damn I know that would shake a lot more peoples conviction on "this is a good ending"Also new roba
>>744553865That Roba looks pretty strong
>>744552343It was posted on /v/ before. You could check the archives.
>>744554372I'll have to think on how to do that search. "not your fault" unsurprisingly provides a shit ton of irrelevant results.>>744554178Val...
>>744553845I know, but there was no need to dump his things into the trash
>>744516446Idk man, way youre deflecting back to the drawfag himself instead of the troll makes it seem like you're trying to hide something desudidnt know better id say youre covering your own tracks
>>744553865Why does the mask give her a hunchback?
>>744554601I'm pretty sure "left to rot" was used to refer to them a couple times. Could also try "Clover's body".
>>744554652It's weirdly heavy.
>>744554696Its heavy with the sins of her and Chujin's past
>>744554693Hmm, "left to rot" is used shockingly often on /v/. I guess it's not too surprising when we think of the state of this site but well, you know.Still I'll keep trying.
>>744548984Okay this one got me to laugh. I'll give you that one anon.
>>744555041I found it. It's all fucking webp but I found it.i'll post the rest once we hit bump limit properly.
>>744555325why wait until the bump limit?
>>744555325We're like two away, you may as well let it rip.
>>744555431>>744555356gotcha, will do then.
>>744552343Why do so many artitst go scorched earth with their drawings?
>>744555485It's a bit edgy as you might expect
>>744555496Good question. I know not every artist is in the best headspace but so many of them just wipe their catalogue out, some repeatedly.>>744555547
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>>744553865That Ceroba looks like she unbirths human children.
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>>744555923Now this is angst, I miss these types of comics from the early UTY fandom
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>>744556082Even though starlo's dialogue doesn't feel right to me at all, I can still enjoy the guilty pleasure of some edge. I'm more of a momlet guy but I kind of have momroba on my brain because of this>>744556150
>>744556225Also apparently the artist said they were planning on making a Dalv reaction as well, but they've nuked all of their accounts (this was on a deleted account that didn't delete its posts), and I don't know that it ever actually happened.
>>744556150Honestly, did they really not send anyone to go grab the body?I feel like someone would've noticed the smell from Clover's corpse shitting itself after a while, since that's what happens when your body finally gives out.Man, imagine if they left Clover's body out to rot, so he couldn't resurrect like the other humans did, since his body wasn't intact.That'd be pretty funny, an extra little kick in the balls like that.
Also, just spotted another roba in the wild.>>744556285realistically since that terrace was upwind from a lot of houses, i think someone would notice>Man, imagine if they left Clover's body out to rot, so he couldn't resurrect like the other humans did, since his body wasn't intact.That'd be pretty funny, an extra little kick in the balls like that.I think one or more of them might literally dust on the spot from that knowledge.
>>744556384>realistically since that terrace was upwind from a lot of houses, i think someone would noticeDo you think they'd know what the smell even is at first?Monsters don't shit, so they might genuinely be confused when they first notice it.>I think one or more of them might literally dust on the spot from that knowledge.Hey, would you rather his soul merges back with his already rotted corpse?Muscle tissue decayed, bones cracking, organs putrefied, but still alive, feeling all of it as if he still had the functioning nerve endings too?Maybe it's best his soul just fades away in this timeline.
I've seen it before, but its still edgy as hell. Makes me wonder how other fangame characters might react to a corpse.I feel like Racter would be scared of it moving, even though he knows it shouldn't be able to do that.
>>744556504Maybe they should give his soul to Kanako. At least then they both get a functioning body, even if its to share.
>>744556597>even though he knows it shouldn't be able to do that.Well, that's not quite universal, from what we've seen.Makes me think of Racter seeing a human corpse, getting spooked, then reassuring himself that it's completely harmless and can't do anything, only to be spooked^2 when it actually does start moving towards him.
>>744556597I think most of them would be horrified since it is the rotting corpse of a child
>>744556504>Do you think they'd know what the smell even is at first?>Monsters don't shit, so they might genuinely be confused when they first notice it.even then it's a bad smell. multiple kinds of bad smells at once, and not the kind that is "subjective" but the kind life is hardwired most of the time to say "something's wrong here" to unless it's the kind of life that feeds off of rot.they wont know what it is but they'd investigate pretty soon realistically I like scenarios where asgore asks them where the body is when he accepts the soul and tells them, much to their shock, that human bodies stick around pretty persistently. I imagine Starlo being the one to go back for the body, one last mission for his deputy.>Hey, would you rather his soul merges back with his already rotted corpse?>Muscle tissue decayed, bones cracking, organs putrefied, but still alive, feeling all of it as if he still had the functioning nerve endings too?>Maybe it's best his soul just fades away in this timeline.I'd quite prefer that through the power of miracles he gets to come back without such horrible pain (though I've seen fics that have him come back partially rotted
>>744556643Eh, I don't think giving the soul over to the spoon would do much good.They could be stuck in a body with like a dozen other people, that might not be the best thing for Clover to wake up to, being trapped forever with a bunch of strangers, in a body that doesn't respond to his actions.
>>744556643might lead to some hijinks I still really like the idea of Kanako being a kid, and having gone through hell herself, reacting a little selfishly at first about the idea of sharing a body. I'm starting to like the idea that despite being someone who wanted to help people, maybe she doesn't see the big picture immediately.
>>744556685He'd scream like Courage The Cowardly Dog if that happened
>>744556704>even then it's a bad smell. multiple kinds of bad smells at once, and not the kind that is "subjective" but the kind life is hardwired most of the time to say "something's wrong here" to unless it's the kind of life that feeds off of rot.Yes, but monsters are a pretty exotic form of life from most biological organisms, so we technically can't say for certain what they might be wired to think of it.Probably still not good for them though, yeah.>spoilersImagine the UTY cast waiting around Clover's coffin, since they heard the other humans got brought back to life after that big white flash, so they're hoping Clover will come back too even if he's taking a bit longer than the others did.Imagine them getting excited when they hear shuffling from inside the coffin, and they wait with held breath as the lid slowly opens.Imagine their surprise, seeing a mauled visage of the child they knew, missing eye, exposed muscle tissue, jawbone hanging by a thread of muscle tendon, opening the coffin's lid, his battered body only able to produce guttural choking noises as his vocal cords have long since withered away, but his pleas for help can be almost *felt* in what's left of his face.His body already dead, he won't succumb to anything naturally. He'll simply decay, and decay, until all that's left is just the soul again.Now, why would you do all that to such a poor child?
>>744556752Well then maybe find a dying monster and have him share that monster's body in exchange for keeping them alive.
>>744557041yeah I don't like all of that. not one bit.Ceroba would definitely dust on the spot from that. I don't care if monsters dusting from despair is a headcanon. She's fucking donezo. Martlet too. they just vanish into the wind of eternity.
>>744557041Man, Asriel/Flowey is an asshole, why bring Clover back just to make him suffer and torture his friends?
>>744556597>DRY>during the final battle, [melody/mylo] ends up dying>in the dark world her body simply disappeared, but its lying lifeless on the floor in the light world>cole, being a human, just reacts somberly.>kanako ends up having a panic attack, she's had to go through several members of the extended family dusting. but this was something she was unprepared for even if she knew that humans dont dust on death>gizmo melts down, acting like she can still be saved because the body is still there despite knowing deep down that its over>sadie simply cant handle it and her mind ends up pretending that a corpse isnt in front of her, its only later in the night that she breaks down when the thoughts finally chew away at her defenses.
>>744557114See?Perhaps it's better to simply let some things lie.
>>744557342>>sadie simply cant handle it and her mind ends up pretending that a corpse isnt in front of her, its only later in the night that she breaks down when the thoughts finally chew away at her defenses.fuck, poor thing.poor all of them, including mel/myl, but poor thing.
>>744557342Do monsters dust in Deltarune?
>>744557435its implied, beyond that we just dont know.
>>744557062Eh, still seems like a raw deal, being cooped up with some random guy forever.Just grab a suit of armor and turn Clover into a Lingering Will sort of deal, that'll do.
>>744557421I think it's better to put Clover in the magic sustaining coffin sooner rather than later so the power of determination can't accidentally not do miracles just to make me feel worse.
>>744557472I don't think humans can do that.
>>744557472>>744557487>clover gets put in the coffin too late>post-asriel>the gang waits around, hoping that he's fine>thunder strikes as the coffin goes to open>the lights go dim>he rises>SPOOKY SCARY SKELETONS.
>>744557487Yeah, that's better.You know, I saw a fic once where *Flowey* was the one to bring Clover's body to Asgore, so it could be preserved and taken care of like the others.It was interesting, seeing Flowey be almost insulted by the main cast just leaving the body there, like it didn't even matter.Maybe he got that from bringing Chara's body to the surface, used to carrying corpses around.
>>744557667Skeleton Clover seems like a pretty plausible take on monster Clover, now that I think about it.
>>744557626Maybe not, but eh, who cares?It's a better ending than being stuck in a rotting corpse, that's for sure.'Sides, we still don't know a lot about how souls work, so maybe you could make a specialized vessel to hold one, and to act as a way of interacting with the world.
>>744557707Maybe its just some sense of having "been there". He's died before, so he has an idea of how one should be treated when they die.
>>744557667oh no you've turned my yeller into skeleton wank!>>744557707>Yeah, that's better.well that IS what I want, not my fault that comic is edgy as shit!>You know, I saw a fic once where *Flowey* was the one to bring Clover's body to Asgore, so it could be preserved and taken care of like the others.It was interesting, seeing Flowey be almost insulted by the main cast just leaving the body there, like it didn't even matter.I don't think i've seen the fic itself but I've seen stuff that kind of touches on that a little. I can kind of see it in a way even with flowey being a shit head.
>>744557765Robo Clover?
>>744557727So, what's Clover's font skeleton name?Sans Sheriff? I saw a font called "Western", but that seems too easy.
>>744557806Oh yeah, Flowey never betrayed Clover in the pacifist timeline, he doesn't even know he's evil.
>>744557829Nah, less of a robot, more like soul armor in general.Like Al in FMA, or the Lingering Will in KH2.Armor made animate by a human soul, with varying degrees of ability to interact with the world, depending.
>>744557834>sans sheriffthat reminds me, I probably cant find it before the thread dies, but in the 2024 threads there was a person who did a dialogue between sans and clover with clover thinking that sans being "the judge" was super cool.
>>744557834Why would he change his name?
>>744557896Was that 2024?Cause I think I remember seeing something along those lines, but I wasn't here back then.
>>744557891Specialized makes me think there's some sort of mechanical or magitech element making this happen. I don't think human souls in UT can just possess things.
>>744557929He's a skellington now, he's gotta be named after a font, them's the rules.If you don't decide, it's gonna end up being something stupid like "Mars needs cunnilingus".
>>744557929because the skeletons we know of are font named and sans sheriff is a play off sans serifor so I assume >>744557945I'm pretty sure at least. people stopped doing the dialogue edits at some point or another. still looking for it.
>>744557978Yeah, but I don't mean like Mettaton or something completely mechanical, I mean something more obviously on the magic end of things.
>>744557945oh actually I found it.
>>744557987What if the font thing is specifically a family thing for the Gaster family though?>>744557996But all the Skeletons we know are related. Clover would not be related to them.
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>>744558019I don't think that's how magic operates either. Magic in UT is a very physical thing. I don't think magic or DT could do something like Alphonse's hollow suit of armor from FMA.
>>744558096>What if the font thing is specifically a family thing for the Gaster family though?We don't know that for certain, but we know for a fact that the UT skeletons are based on the webcomic Helvetica, where all skeletons are named after fonts, so it's not out of the question that all skeletons in UT would be named after fonts inherently too.
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>>744558183I think that's super lame and limiting, and unlike Helvetica, there's literally no reason for it here. If someone told Clover he had to be called a font name, he would call them lame and gay and not play along and neither would his friends. At most he starts going by GunHat.
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>>744558168But you don't knoooooooooooooooow~
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>>744558280it's powerful
>>744558270>I think that's super lame and limiting, and unlike Helvetica, there's literally no reason for it here.Did Helvetica even have a reason for it?I don't think it ever said, other than people not remembering their original names from when they were alive.>If someone told Clover he had to be called a font name, he would call them lame and gay and not play along and neither would his friends. At most he starts going by GunHat.Well, maybe the Clover in your head, anon.Say, how'd that bit about that singularity go again?Oh well, like it even matters.
