i expect most people disappointed by this are actually the xbox fans who instantly intuit this as M$ yet again shooting themselves in the foot

where is all this seethe you're talking about?

proof that a single person is seething uncontrollably? I couldn't care less about microsoft slop

>>744516117
we have seen microsoft trying to choke third party stores like steam to death before plenty of times, no quarter either steam or no buy

>>744516240
>>744431494

Literally no one is seething. It's just a bad decision if true

the Steam derangement here has gotten fucking insane over the past few months

>>744516316
Source?

>>744516117
You didn't live through GFWL zoomie, you don't know shit.

xbox didn't put out a game worth buying in years why should i care

Is there any good MS games?

>>744516681
I assumed the same, but they actually published ninja gaiden 4 just last year

They will never beat Steam if they stay on Steam. In fact by staying on Steam, all they are doing is making sure less people use Windows because of Steam's push for Linux.

Staying on Steam is a suicidal move for short term profits, they really do need to decouple from it but that requires them to make good Windows exclusive games on their storefront that people will want to buy. Something like TES6 comes to mind, assuming they don't fuck it up like Starfield.

>>744516629
https://www.pcgamer.com/tim-sweeney-thinks-microsoft-will-make-steam-progressively-worse-with-windows-10-patches/

>>744516618
>the Steam derangement here has gotten fucking insane over the past few months
brown hands typed this

Steamdrones

>>744516117
>reporting on a Jez rumor
Kek

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>>744516117
Oh fuck no. This is going to be a shit fest again.

>>744516348
Ok but where's the seethe? Can you highlight some posts?

>>744516214
Steam undermines console and game pass. They either have to accept being third party or they have to play to win and that means not being on Steam. Same reason Sony cancelled first party single player on Steam

>>744516790
microshit store is butt ass doodoo fuck garbage

If you dont use steam i dont care
If you do use steam I dont care
My whole library is there which is why I care about games coming to steam but XBOX studios have made 0 good games so who cares

>>744516117
PCJeets are so desperate for games even Xbox games seem appealing

>>744518003
literally steam's best competitor

>>744518165
I can see them attempting to revamp it since I assume they want it to be the same as the Xbox store going forward. If the Helix is just a locked down PC, that has to be the case really.

>>744518165
Microshit is doodoo AI garbage

>>744516117
your framing seems disingenuous

Steamies? Steamin'.

>>744516938
>nog trying to shill for goybox and their football simulator
Consider gas

>>744516117
The same goes for you for Sony getting rid of physical sales. The same for you when PC chads started emulating your precious Switch games.

>>744518260
revamp the part where they break your microsoft account credentials and can't use the store at all so you have to watch dozens of hours of indian tech support videos to come to the conclusion that the error is on microshit's end and they don't give enough of a fuck to fix it AND you have to use their stupid fucking gaming services shit? I don't think so. They'll slap lipstick on that dead pig and call it good.

>>744516931
>sony owned pcgamer
>dude thinks
Kill yourself

>>744516214
Nice try but there arent xbox fans anymore. Its a dead brand. This one's on PCvcks.

>>744518093
Lol
Consoles undermine consoles you retard.
>be Microshit or sony no gamestation
>have no games
>have terrible value
>user retention in the gutter 24/7
>constantly increase prices
Sure is a mystery why no one uses their shit. The problem is surely anything but them.

>>744518426
>>nog trying to shill for goybox and their football simulator
Goybox as in my gaming pc?
Genuinely reconsider your life decisions if you think anyone attacking the platform that holds you hostage is a brown xboxer

>>744516790
But they're also not going to get any converts, no one trusts Microsoft. Steam is pushing for Linux, but most people switching to it are still only doing it because Windows is an unreliable mess.
If they wanted more people to use Windows, then they would open source Windows 7 instead of forcing everyone onto an eternal early-access OS train just because they want to sell data, sell ads and promote vendor lock-in.
>Exclusives
They do not have any of the talent or know-how at the managerial or development level to make a good exclusive game that would yield a positive return on investment. They have bought out a lot of companies, but they have gained nothing of value from that.
>>744518093
Those services undermine themselves. The only way for them to be profitable is to hide costs or to pull a bait-and-switch once they have a captive audience, they are fundamentally less profitable than any other business model when running an honest service.

ES6 and Fallout 5 exclusively on the Xbox app will still be a massive success. Cope all you want, it's true.

>>744516117
List 5 xbox game worth it right now on steam?

>>744516629
man, your kind is desperate

Are they gonna give up on Game Pass too? Because the only reason why their games sell any copies on PC at all is because some users would rather pay more than have to use a different client. I think they'll see a rise in one-month-then-cancel subscriptions and in pirated downloads but a decrease in revenue.
Doesn't personally affect me, I even use Timmy's shitty launcher, but I think they'll regret the decision.

>>744516117
Windows is becoming a closed system like apple

>>744519559
Flight Simulator 2024
Don't need other 4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p3xp-SnZDoY

Skyrim 2, exclusively on Microsoft's "Steam Competitor", 2029.
Fuck, it'd work on me... I'd have to get another launcher...

>>744519949
>I'd have to get another launcher...
You have windows store already on your system

>>744520248
if that's their steam competitor they've already lost; like a repulsive ipad appstore

>>744516618
Snoys got so thoroughly raped by everyone that wasn't a Snoy so now they have marked Steam as their new shitposting fixation.

>>744516117
Oh no, I'd miss out on... Uh...

>>744520495
They don't need to compete with steam, they just need to no put their games there so they don't pay gabe 30%, they already sold their games exclusively on ms store years ago and it was fine.

>>744516117
Outrage is one of the few tools consumer have left to influence business too big too fail

>>744518691
Consoles are the platforms that hold users hostage.

Wtf games has MS even been putting on Steam? The last MS game I've ever bought was MCC on sale for 5$.

Oh no we’re going to lose uuuh
Sea of thieves and ori and the blind forest???

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>>744516117
>microslop
>leaving steam

>>744516117
Because the other stores are shit.

>>744516117
First Ive even heard of this. Eat shit and die, Timmy. Nobidy cares

>>744521436
>No more Call of Duty
>No more Forza
>No more Halo
Valve needs MS a lot more than MS needs Valve.

Good news everyone jeetsoft is leaving lol.

>>744521709
Forza is the only one that hasn't shitted and farted
Codslop fails completely on steam, only consolegoyim play it

>>744516117
nobody would have care if they didn't buy 2 of the biggest game publishers in the industry and are now holding like half of the AAA games hostage. Doom, Elder Scroll, Call of Duty... MS owns everything. Nobody cares about Halo or Gears of War though.

>>744516117
>component prices go up
>consoles go back to closed ecosystems and raping their customers in order to subsidize keeping hardware as cheap as possible
PC shit might be expensive, but at least we're not forced to pay for it later on and indefinitely
>>744521709
>CoD 58th active player count right now
I think Valve will be fine

>>744516790
They are also never going to beat steam if they stay out of it either. They already tried twice and failed catastrophically both times.

>>744516117
Good luck to them with that. Microsoft's output isn't high enough for them to justify their own store again.

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>we're going to take our games away from where all the customers are!
Cool strategy.

>>744516348
>Sincerely linking people to a [FAGGOT NEWS] post

You are sub-human and don't deserve the rights we have.

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>>744516938
>Calls others brown
>Literally can't read or figure out basic interface features

Projection!

>>744516117
I wont use a microslop store designed by AI from pajeet prompts, simple as that

>>744519881
Flight Simulator isn't an Xbox game you fucking retard.

>>744516117
I hate both.
I want MS to leave steam.
Steamies will seethe and MS will do another round of epin layoffs.

>>744516790
Microsoft needs to accept that no one wants their shit hardware or services
Put the games in the bag you fucking faggot jeets, humble yourselves

>>744516117
doesn't bother me but I still wont install EGS tho, seethe :)

>>744518093
>selling games at a higher price than a gamepass subscription--and making money--undermines game pass
I'm sorry that you're dumb

>>744516117
It just means I will be pirating their games going forward. Granted I don't even know the last time I bought a MS game to begin with.

>>744516117
>Microsoft might leave Steam
Who?

>>744520495
Not the windows store, but the Xbox app. It's better for purchasing games, and it's also installed on your system already.

It appears evident to me that the golden age of PC gaming is coming to an end. The tower of babel is being abandoned with Sony and potentially Microsoft removing their games from Steam.

Now prices for hardware are ridiculous, some games like Tokyo Clanpool aren't even allowed on Steam(but are on GoG), and there is a very real chance that Microsoft starts paying for PC exclusivity on their storefront again. Considering Microsoft's relationship with Sega in recent years where they even snagged the Persona 6 reveal away from Sony, that's a very real concern. There is a non 0% chance that Persona 6 is day and date on PC...on the Windows Store/Game Pass and not Steam.

I'd say it's a repeat of the 2010's launcher wars but this is closer to the Netflix situation where once upon a time everything was on Netflix and then everyone stopped putting their shows and movies on it so now Netflix sucks ass.

>>744522915
As long as they don't fall back on the 360 years where they completely abandoned Windows as a games platform it's fine.

At the end of the day, people use Steam because it's easier than pirating. If Microsoft removes their games from Steam, people will just start pirating them again.

>>744521006
Amazing deflection and projection, thanks for proving my point that Steam and every digital storefront holds you hostage.

>>744516790
>They will never beat Steam if they stay on Steam
anon, it's microsoft, they will NEVER beat steam
you know the windows store ? well I deleted it while debloating my pc, turn out it's a pain to reinstall, why can't they just give me a .exe ?

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>>744516117
>Steamfags seethe uncontrollably
Who did? firstly microsoft has no good games, secondly everyone knows they'll be back, they always do.

>>744523136
>Who did?
You personally

>>744518093
console are just a retarded idea
you can either
>buy a closed box
>can't mod
>can't use for work
>can't make your own games
>can't pirate
>must rebuy a new box every 7 years
or buy a pc
>open box
>can pirate
>can install whatever you want
>keep your games
>upgrade when you feel like it

lol this dance again. I would understand this arrogance if people were lin8ng up to play Microshart games, but at this rate, they have nothing but Gears. And people aren't going to install their shitty software or buy an Xbox for the privilege of playing Gears or the latest Gaylo.

>>744523231
>>can't mod
>>can't use for work
>>can't make your own games
2 out of 3 are tranny activities and the remaining one shouldn't be done on the same machine unless you love the dystopia we're living in where your phone does everything and replaced everything

>>744516117
The issue is the microsoft store is BUGGY as fuck and has been for almost a decade, you're either a rage baiting faggot loser or you never played a game on their trash platform.
The last one I played was PSO2 before it finally came to steam and it use to auto delete constantly meaning you had to redownload 85gb every other day.
You search around a bit and you will see tons of old posts talking about it on the internet before we finally could move over to steam and have zero issues.

they also put their games in a weird as fuck folder that has higher privileges than the actual admin on your computer so you can't even open the folder normally without doing some fuckery on your computer

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>>744522915
>The tower of babel is being abandoned with Sony and potentially Microsoft removing their games from Steam.
oh no, we will loose game such as uh
>call of duty
>horizon
>the last of us
>spider-man
>nu gow
truly a tragedy

>>744523382
you can't work with a smartphone
>but muh
beside calling someone ? no you can't work

>>744522915
Dumbass
They have already attempted decentralising away from steam back when it was way smaller and its opposition was way bigger and more competent
It fucking failed

Now they stand no chance, people are ideologically attached to steam and they see just how vile the competition is
And the motivator isn't even there, they only stand to gain 43% more revenue at best, less if their game is successful or if they have a deal with steam
This isn't even counting the losses from handling the distribution themselves

>>744516117
name ONE (1) dev who walked away from steam and it turned out to be more profitable for them

>>744523523
You always fail to mention that steam is just far more stable with far more consumer friendly options built in.
Epic, microsoft store, EA etc are all absurdly buggy, slow, and anti consumer with no public reviews/forums/player screenshot hub etc

>>744519514
It wont, both will be unreal garbage vibecoded to oblivion as the oblivion demaster whom the only good shit was the accurate clothing, armor and weapon mesh remakes.

>>744516117
>seethe
you know people who have used steam a long time have watched this play out before, right?
and it's the same every time
>COMPANY will no longer put their games on Steam
>"okay, cool, whatever that was always an option"
>*six months of low sales later*
>we're putting our games on Steam again!
>"yep, saw that coming"
we're used to the industry treating pc as second class so we're not bothered when they do dumb shit

>>744516117
>Steamfags seethe uncontrollably
maybe in your head.
I can't say I play any xbox games on steam. If they wanna put their games on the windows store, they can go ahead and lose money.
I'm a linux user, if a game requires me to use microsoft drm, it's a hard pass.

>>744522915
Truly delusional and brainwashed if you think Streaming services are in any way, shape or form similiar to digital storefronts where you buy instead of rent

>>744523523
GFWL failed because Microsoft was still more interested in chasing after Sony. They have never taken PC seriously, they've been fighting against Sony as their main enemy the entire time. But now Valve has become an actual threat, when Nvidia cards are able to use SteamOS next year, you will have more gamers ditching Windows for it. Windows is already behind Android and iOS for usage, if Microsoft loses the PC audience then that's terrible for them and it's their own doing. Their CEO pushed Office products on Mac and Microsoft games on Playstation/Steam. They could have easily put all their games on Bnet instead since that has people willing to use it thanks to WoW Diablo and Overwatch.

You can play all their games on Linux. You can use all the work apps on Mac. There is no point to Windows unless they change something up.

>>744523619
>far more consumer friendly options built in.
Valve was forced into being ""consumer friendly"" by regulatory bodies for like 2 decades after its existence. Refunding games wasn't a thing until 2015 and that was also the year they had plans of paid mods until they backed away

>>744522915
how often do you have to replace your computer?
the latest unoptimized slop is not worth playing, and computers last for 15 years now and we've hit a graphically plateau.
As long as you have at least 32gb of ram which you should have had years ago when it was cheap, and a couple of 2TB SSDs you're set until 2040 at this point

don't buy AAA slop none of it us worth playing lol

>>744523401
>I'm not mad, said the man resorting to personal attacks
Me I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed by how easily you lost this argument

>>744523730
The comparison was with everything being on Netflix like how everything was on Steam these past few years. But then everything left Netflix and people left Netflix as a result, it's still the most popular streaming service but people went back to piracy instead.

I think it's a fairly apropos comparison, if games leave Steam then people leave Steam and return to piracy.

>>744522915
lol they already tried that
remember uplay?
whatever the fuck EA's was called
the Bethesda one was really funny because they swore DOOM wasn't going to be on Steam, then had to come crawling when no one used their shit launcher
fucking Microsoft already tried with GFWL
we'll just wait it out or ignore the games like we always do

if playstation and xbox want to make their own store then they should make a working emulator for ps3 and xbox360 then release a game per week for 10 euros
but they won't because they are retarded (see sony and bloodborn, would be useless to release it on pc now since the emulator is working good)
so they won't, rpcs3 and xenia will get better and better

>>744523815
Windows will lose no matter what they do
Their brand is simply permanently tainted and the jeet rot over the past decade has exposed that it's not worth trusting an operating system where one single entity controls absolutely everything

It has only been a matter of time and now it's counting down

>>744523953
You are genuinely fucking retarded if you can't create a good analogy. Buying something that stays forever in a digital account is wildly different to paying for a subscription that expires, locks your content away and said content might leave the platform entirely
The most accurate analogy is the Xbox Gamepass & PS+ Premium catalog but you're obviously too fucking stupid to string that together.
I don't give a fuck if my games are spread between Steam & GoG for obvious reasons.

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>>744516117
>Steamfags seethe uncontrollably
I'm not losing sleep over Halo, just like having Sony games removed would've went unnoticed without bad actors on this board making threads about it just like you are right now.

>>744516117
Lol cool. I wont olay Microsoft games then. They think that kinda sway? Fuck out here bitch. Plenty of other shit to play on Steam

>>744523823
So? Now they're basically leading the charge for all devices being able to play your games and they'll be using operating systems that you will control
Valve's vision is so bright that consoles, mobile, apple and Microsoft will naturally lose to it

>>744516117
It's not even a store, really. It's like being attached to gamestop if it only allowed rentals. I don't get valve drones honestly on any level. Xbox? Okay if people grew up with Halo or whatever. Playstation? I don't know they had third parties so sure? But even they killed physical now.

>>744523823
They didnt have to do the 2 hour window or make it world wide but they did

>>744524025
>we'll just wait it out or ignore the games like we always do
If Persona 6 or TES6 were Windows Store exclusive, people aren't waiting. They are pirating or buying a month of Game Pass. There are games that are big enough where people don't care. Overwatch was one, it was mega popular without being on Steam. Valorant was another, and you have tons of popular gacha games that have their own PC launchers(Mihoyo's being the biggest). If GTA6 wasn't on Steam it would not make a difference because people would be lining up to play it.

>>744524114
It's about the consumer reaction. The end result is less people using Steam and just pirating games(more relevant than ever now that Denuvo is dead), much like how people stopped using Netflix and started pirating everything instead. People stick to 1 place when it has everything due to convenience, when that convenience is lost they resort back to piracy.

>>744522915
ubisoft tried and failed (uplay)
EA tried and failed (origin)
overwatch is on steam
Epic tried to buy exclusivity, peoples waited and treated the steam release as the real release (Hades)
Microsoft already failed, twice (windowstore and GameForWindowsLive)
Amazon tried and failed (luna)
Google tried and failed (stadia)
alternative only work if you sell something different like dlsite, mangagamer, JAST ect... (and still, you can get the game on steam, just need to apply a +18 patch) or true indies like itchio
if it's just "one editor will make his own buggy store" it will fail, epic was just a launch fornite button and pc isn't where they make the most money

>>744516117
I can't think of anything Microsoft has a hand in that I was looking forward to, but this sucks for the people that will be forced to use the Microsoft Store because holy SHIT what a disaster that thing is.
I wonder if those people who installed PSO2 from it ever got back that 100+gb of dead drive space it took as it didn't give you perms to uninstall it.

>>744516117

Would not be surprised that they do something stupid, like follow Epic and they will try to make some Roblox clone that players can use microsofts subscription AI to make slop for each other. These vanilla CEOs all think alike.

>>744524335
>If GTA6 wasn't on Steam it would not make a difference because people would be lining up to play it.
They tried this with RDR2, I will admit they got my ass to install their launcher but RDR2 ended up being a garbage ass game and I never went back to the cockstar launcher since and unfortunately the game found its way back on steam anyway.

>>744524410
>vanilla CEOs
More like vindaloo CEOs

Steamfag here, I am not sure why I'm supposed to care about this at all. I don't even like Microsoft.

Steamies dont want to admit Microsoft have a lot of franchises they like like elder scrolls

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>>744516117
Steamies are a cult and worse than all three consolefag clans put together

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>helped the environment, between 2008 and 2019, Tim Sweeney has purchased and dedicated over 50,000 acres of North Carolina land to conservation, the most notable being the Box Creek Wilderness, a 7,000-acre natural area that contains more than 130 rare and threatened plants and wildlife species meanwhile Gabe is destroying the ocean with his fleet of yachts
>revolutionized game development with the Unreal Engine
>funded the PC ports of the Kingdom Hearts series and NEO: The World Ends With You
>is funding Fumito Ueda's new game gen ATLAS
>Only takes a 12% from devs meanwhile Gabe the jew takes a 30% cut
>regularly gives you free games
>Gabe was in the Jeffrey Epstein flight logs
>Valve has been involved in three major high-profile class action lawsuits, The UK Antitrust & Overcharging Lawsuit, New York Attorney General Loot Box Lawsuit and Nationwide US Loot Box Gambling Class Action
>Steam is letting games filled with malware onto their store and has no manual checks, using Steam puts your PC at risk

https://gagadget.com/en/719403-fbi-arrests-21-year-old-who-hid-crypto-stealing-malware-in-eight-steam-games/

This irrational hatred of Tim Sweeney has to stop. Tim isn't your enemy, Gabe is.

>>744516117
Good morning sir.

>>744524674
A cult of good service, yes

>>744524674
Steamies are console refugees, thats why they form a loyalty to one company on PC the most open platform

>>744523505
>you can't work with a smartphone
Most people wouldn't want to work on a desktop, especially one using Windows.
You are just handicapping your "productivity" if you are not using a macbook.
>beside calling someone ? no you can't work
Be honest, you don't """work""" on your computer. At most you file taxes after taking a break from watching porn and youtube.

>>744524709
Working on a Sunday?

>>744523382
>console slave calling anyone a tranny
do you need to see pictures of your chosen console goycorp hosting pride parades again?

>>744524264
>using operating systems that you will control
SteamOS uses proprietary frameworks, has built in DRM and built in telemetry you can't disable.
It has way more spyware and limitations than your average Linux distro
>Valve's vision is so bright
My iq is above double digits so i wouldn't want the storefront that has my games to have a monopoly on my operating system and the rest of my devices.
>apple and Microsoft will naturally lose to it
Atleast 1000$ Apple products are worth their price and don't get beaten by 6 year old hardware at half the price

>>744516117
Wow, that's crazy. May I see evidence of this seethe?

This already happened by the way, MS came crawling back.

>>744516117
Great. Next thing MS needs to do is pull out of the market entirely.

>>744516117
Are the seething steamfags in the room with us anon?

>>744524335
>It's about the consumer reaction
jibber jabber with no substance. You think everyone has OCD like you do and needs every game on 1 platform.
>The end result is less people using Steam and just pirating games
You're a moron if GoG or Microsoft made you pirate games instead of just pirating them already.
>much like how people stopped using Netflix and started pirating everything instead
People did that because Netflix has increased their prices, worsened their originals and the few good ones it has are not worth paying an additional amount on top of HBO or Apple TV
>People stick to 1 place when it has everything due to convenience
brownoid cope. There is nothing "inconvenient" in the modern age where switching between 2 apps or websites takes 1 second.
>when that convenience is lost they resort back to piracy.
No they don't.
Genuinely kill yourself if you still can't comprehend why people don't want multiple Streaming services or how they're different to gaming.

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>>744516117
It'll suck if they take Halo away from me. Yeah, the franchise is in the dumpster and has been completely irrelevant for almost 20 years, but i'll always be attached to it.

>>744524810
mindraped stockholm syndrome captive

>>744525231
You're not beating the buckbroken tranny modding FNV allegations. Don't you have right wing discord users in your server to dox?

>>744525261
Cool, retard
There's absolutely nothing compelling you to use SteamOS, I never have, never will
Why are you crying about a distro called SteamOS using Steam?

>My iq is above double digits so i wouldn't want the storefront that has my games to have a monopoly on my operating system and the rest of my devices.
Again, retard, no one is saying valve has any exclusivity to all those tools they made
Anyone else could use them
The industry is simply so fucking backwards that they haven't even started

>Atleast 1000$ Apple products are worth their price and don't get beaten by 6 year old hardware at half the price
So retarded you thought I was talking about the steam machine
Apple products do lose actually, thanks to not supporting vulkan

>>744525042
Lmao macs are the most anti productive environment in the world you disingenuous little shit. I had to work on a macbook then an imac for about 4 years and now I ALWAYS choose any other computer (even with windows 11) over a mac when given the choice.
You clearly never had a real job or ever had to do real work on a computer.

>>744516117
Because all the other stores are legitimately incompetent.

>>744525560
My guy, your goycorp doesn't even allow you to access a file manager
Humble yourself and stop projecting

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>>744525789
Tell me how steam is competent when they allow malware and others don't

>>744525659
Alright, what do you use so I can post pictures of pride parades
Consoles are leftist devices, you control nothing and all you can do is submit to authority

>>744525735
keep larping unemployed retard. Every useful application that exists on Windows is also on Mac, except for Linux

>>744523446
don't forget all of their games as a service shovelware that last less than half a year

>>744525493
>You think everyone has OCD like you do and needs every game on 1 platform.
That's the major underlying reason behind "if it's not on Steam, I'm not buying it.".

>People did that because Netflix has increased their prices, worsened their originals and the few good ones it has are not worth paying an additional amount on top of HBO or Apple TV
You're missing the key part where all their favorite programs to watch were also removed.

>Genuinely kill yourself if you still can't comprehend why people don't want multiple Streaming services or how they're different to gaming.
I think you should follow your own advice here if you're too retarded to understand why EGS failed despite giving out a plethora of free games and buying up exclusivity for titles like Hades, Outer Wilds, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, and more. The first 2 only got popular after the Steam release because no one wanted to download EGS. People won't even switch to a new platform for free games right now because they have everything under one roof, in fact games being given out for free on EGS end up with those games getting sales boosts on Steam that same day. It sounds absurd but that is reality.
https://archive.is/P8RH8

>>744516117
what is even there to lose? Halo, Fable and Age of empires?

>>744525795
My Apple PC has a file manager, how mindraped are you?

>>744526035
Fable and aoe are oldass games litterally you already have them in your library and the new instances are and will be shit so... whatever?

>>744526032
>why EGS failed despite giving out a plethora of free games
Point #1, all else is irrelevant.

>>744525858
>Allow
But it was taken down
Look up section 230, steam is not responsible for someone else committing a crime on it, especially when they're handing all the evidence and personal information to steam on a silver platter

>>744516117
microsoft don't even produce any games anymore, why would it matter whether they're on steam or not

oh yeah go ahead and take your hypothetical nonexistent games off the store, big whoop. And that was BEFORE they fired 4000 employees from like 30 different devteams. They're only going to have EVEN LESS than they had before, and they ALREADY HAD NOTHING

what a fucking nothingburger seriously, who gives a single fuck what microsoft does. They're not relevant

>>744526125
losing online matchmaking would suck

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>>744526038
>iToddler calling anyone a cultist
LMAO
M
A
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You're kidding me this guy is an applefag. Fucking lmao.

>>744525975
That's an easy statement to make when you're a gotcattle consoomer and your list of "every useful app" is a web browser.
Even if what you said was true, doing everything on a mac is an inferior and more frustrating experience compared to linux or windows. Only mentally deficient people find it easier to use because it's an OS tailored for their disability

>Microsoft just closed down a bunch of studios and is reassessing everything else
>Right now their road map for the rest of this year and early 2027 is just Gears E-Day and Fable
>There is stuff in production, but some of that stuff like Obsidian doing a Fallout game literally just started
>Obsidian is also nothing now compared to when they did New Vegas
Yeah. Just keep shooting yourself in the foot Microsoft, just like Sony. Everybody just knows Sharma was put in to kill Xbox.

>>744526321
Linux does not support any productivity software, put a bullet in your skull if you think larping as a wageslave is working somehow.

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>>744516117
It wouldn't be the first time. Remember how that went by the way? Here's the thing about trust: when you constantly break it all the time, people move on and find or create something better. Microsoft lost a lot of trust many years ago with gamers because of Games for Windows Live and completely abandoning PC gaming for consoles. Hell, that's one of the reasons why Steam exists in the first place. I remember many years ago when you couldn't even get things like the Gears of War sequel because they made it exclusive to consoles. Now, maybe you'll get fanboys to move over and get the shiny new Elder Scrolls on whatever thing Microsoft try to shift to, but if it's anything like Starfield, well...good luck with that. Even if it is somehow successful, what else does Microsoft have? I'm certainly not going to give up Steam for the games they have, and honestly, after Starfield, I could give less of a shit about Elder Scrolls quite frankly.

>>744521709
>CoD
The loss wouldn't be great but meh
>Forza
>Halo
Lol. Steam numbers don't lie. God bless steam for letting us see live numbers

>>744526193
That's not even a steam issue because i think ms has the servers. Even if you remove them from steam you wouldn't cut 99% of your playerbase... i think?

>>744526651
That's probably why they want it off steam, to conceal numbers.

>>744526765
Hmmm fair point. Campaign evolved has been a humiliation ritual

>>744526463
Macs can't even run a simple shell script without fucking it up because 80% of the cli tooling available on linux is not on macos or has retardedly different behavior just because apple likes to be special faggots.
Please stop embarrassing yourself with your tech illiteracy and keep your mouth shut with that apple cock you like sucking so much.

>>744521709
>schizophrenic delusions

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>>744516214
Yeah, probably, anybody with a fucking brain can smell this is Microsoft looking at a long line of other publishers that tried their own distribution service and immediately shot themselves in the head, and seeing this yelled out "I'LL BE DIFFERENT! I'LL SUCCEED WHERE ALL OF THEM FAILED! I WON'T INSTANTLY SHOOT MYSELF IN THE HEAD WHEN NOBODY WANTS TO USE A SECOND DISTRIBUTION SERVICE ON TOP OF STEAM"

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>>744526158
>durrrr it was taken down after stealing hundreds of thousands!!!!!
Steamies everyone, no one on sony or Nintendo had malware steal their shit. Steam is worst store. And they allowed this too

I don't think Microsoft has any games on Steam I even care about. Plus the ones they do require yet another layer of account. Honestly fuck Microsoft, get the fuck out.

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Pretty soon the steam charts will show only one user, playing Dota 2. Location: the middle of the ocean.

>>744526870
hellblade 2 and south of midnight are way worse. south of midnight topped out at 1,438 players.

>>744516117
Where? Everyone i see talking about it is just saying to give it a year or two and they'll be back.

>>744526947
Because Sony and Nintendo sell goyware that their users don't control
That's the price of freedom retard, you can make bad choices

>>744526918
>Unix can't run Unix scripts
never forget you're the tech illiterate retard in this room

>>744522915
>on the Windows Store/Game Pass and not Steam
Ok and then they loose money and potential sales.

What games have they even released recently that are actually worth buying?

/v/ says exclusives matter but you faggots kvetch the moment anything is not on steam and act like you'll never buy anything exclusive to another launcher.

well which is it?

I have a job and will just buy the next xbox then

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>>744527561
>next xbox

>>744527546
Those other launchers need to actually match steam if they expect people to use them
You could get an LLM to list every single steam feature and then add your own ideas

>>744527238
It literally can't. And it has nothing to do with it being unix. It's because it's a piece of shit mac which is cucked and restricted by design and brew is a useless toy compared to even the shittiest linux repos. You've never opened a terminal in your life and it shows.

>>744527546
Who is /v/? Exclusives are jewish tricks and were never at any point good, which is why the very moment the propaganda institution called journalism collapsed, they immediately stopped mattering and everyone collectively admitted they're shit.

>>744527057
Somalia is better than America cause in Somalia you can kill people! PRICE OF FREEDOM!!!!

>>744527736
Consoles would be north korea in your analogy, retard-kun
PC is America, you commit a crime, you get sentenced
You want steam to screen everything and everyone so you can do your dystopian pre-crime agenda

>>744527647
The thing is even if a Launcher that came out that was just like Steam down to the store being the same people still wouldn't jump ship because nobody is going to switch to another platform because people Steam accounts are very well established for the most part, with some people having accounts that are over 20 years old including libraries that go back that far. This is why nobody will ever be able to compete with Steam. Microsoft knows this because that was exactly what fucked over Xbox during Xbox One since Microsoft lost the digital sale space for consoles right when digital sales for consoles were becoming a normal thing. One of the main ideas of Gamepass was to try and entice people to jump ship by giving them a library to start with but we all saw how that went.

>>744527894
>PC is America, you commit a crime, you get sentenced
Wrong you commit crime on PC and face NO punishment
PC is Somalia, you can do more in Somalia than in America. So you want freedom right :)

>>744528226
>No punishment
Retard, the subhumans doing this shit got completely banned and everything steam had on them was forwarded to the feds
Again, you're so brown that you don't understand you're asking for pre crime minority report tier shit

>>744516117
Years of parasocial retardation.

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>>744528515
>ermm but whatabout this one example?????
Now show me the punishment for the millions of hackers and scammers that go on a daily basis that just make new accounts every second

>>744518328
Steamin' Steven

>>744528737
"Hacked"
>Insert your username and password we are gonna gift you a free game : ^ )
>See how many money you spent on steam for free : ^ )
>Accept this friend he'll gift you the key : ^ )
>Password: 12345

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>>744516117
Because everyone still remembers what a piece of shit pic related was.

In this case Id choose steam, and I hate drm

Reminder that all seething about Steam ultimately stems from the rothschilds at this point.

>>744528737
Those are old and abandoned accounts retard
If there are actual victims to this then valve can easily reverse it and they do
If you're asking for more you actually want surveillance
You're not very smart

>>744518190
Yes, for Valve. It's a great reminder of why to stay with Steam.

>>744516117
No one has been seething, only laughing.

>>744528865
>guiz trust me its this and not valve us incompetent!!!!!!
Cultist

>>744529490
If you have the authenticator and\or a two security levels is completely impossibile someone can hack your profile. Even so you just need to change your password, it's impossibile.

>>744528901
Now take this, add in two million extra jeets, 95% fewer white people, more bloat, more spyware, biometric ID verification and much more.
This shit is so gay. The reason Steam/Valve has its monopoly is twofold, 1 it is fantastic for the consumer/user, 2 it has been around for 20 years and been the main platform for almost the entirety of that time. No one is going to change; just look at Epic Games, free games yet who the fuck uses it other than to claim free games and maybe play those free-gained games

>>744529490
NTA but work one day into security and you will see 99.9% of hacks, leaks or whatever is user's fault (intentional or not). Once i got one that had a password wrote on a post it (just like in videogames) and that post-it was visible by that pc's webcam.

>>744516117
OP is some butthurt Assa Cowpiss poster that lives in a separate world where microsoft wins everytime

>>744529575
>If you have the authenticator and\or a two security levels
2 things valve used to not have

>>744529845
Microsoft does win champ, consumer PC parts are going away the only affordable PC in the future is a Xbox Helix

>>744529929
Nice goalpost moving. The article is of this year i guess and the steamguard was 2011 (pre autenticator, still 2 factor).

>>744530053
Helix is going to be expensive too. The only affordable PC in the future is going to be switching to linux so that microsoft can't brick your device.

>>744530053
lmao cope
consoles are not even subsidised at this point

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>>744529819
I remember when I was a kid playing MMOs logging into other kids' accounts and taking all their items cause they were stupid enough to make their passwords be the same as their username and shit like that

>>744530189
Only millennials understand the concept of security. Boomers and zoomers have no idea, and the second is the worse because they are litterally born tech-savy.

>>744524810
>good service
This term was invented by Valve itself btw.
Not a real person used words like """"""""good""""""" service to describe a fucking drm store before valve shills started spamming it.
It's almost like they have to pretend they aren't a middle man parasite somehow, so they came up with this retarded term.

>>744530128
>The article is of this year i guess and the steamguard was 2011 (pre autenticator, still 2 factor).
And still a shit ton of hackers, shit ass store

>>744516938
It's hard to take someone too scared to say the word nigger seriously.
You clearly want to say it, so being too much of a bitch to is just embarrassing

>>744530178
Then why is xbox series and ps5 cheaper than steam machine despite being more powerful
Oh right cause its subsidised retard

>>744530265
>and the second is the worse because they are litterally born tech-savy.
Zoomers who were born with phones in their hands arent tech savy. Most kids in computer class dont even know how to turn on a computer.

>>744530408
Because they're mass produced
Economy of scale

>>744516117
As a former Steamie (well current Steamie as I still possess a PC and play Steam games on it), I put this down to the fact that PC gaming is so obnoxious that having to have manage multiple libraries on different storefronts on the same machine completely ruins the convenience for them. The Steam client functions like a console in respect to it's UI, even when you're using a mouse and keyboard it's nice to have one hub to access your whole library. Having another library adds a completely unnecessary task. A lot of Steam users are console players at heart, I know because I am one.

>>744527006
Those are filler games no one asked for. Halo is suppose to be their big ticket thing

>>744530548
No its not, valve literally said they refuse to subsidize it

>>744530667
Consoles are mass produced retard

>>744516117
I know how this will end (I'm not a console fag and I'm not a fucking Steamie, I'm a Pirate and a Goggy)
>They will NEVER leave steam, MAYBE only timed exclusive
>They even added CoD to Steam, because no one wants to deal with Battlenet
>They still earn 1000x more, giving Steam the 30% tax for listing games
>This is all cope, lies and FUD
done.

>>744530548
Snoy and MS are losing money on selling those. I recall MS losing about 200 bucks on every Xbox they sell. It might be more right now with the prices being as they are, unless they recently made the price go up again. I don't really keep track.

>>744530682
And why exactly can't valve mass produce anything despite their fans claiming they are bigger than all other game companies

>>744530274
>good service didn't exist before valve
lmao

>DRM store
applies to all consoles
pc physical had DRM way worse than steam but you're too young to know that

>pretend they aren't a middle man parasite somehow,
steam gives a bigger cut to developers than consoles and gog
it's also easier and cheaper to develop for than consoles
there's a reason steam is a birthplace for so many great indies while consoles is where you go after you get big

>>744516790
Why doesn't Microsoft just ban steam? Or they could just allow Apps from the Microsoft store. PC illiteracy is a problem and in the future .exe installs will be heavily locked down anyway.

>>744516117
Who's seething? Microsoft hasn't made any worthwhile shit in forever.

>>744530873
Steam ended golden age of pc gaming in reality

Snoys and Steamies are the worst. They talk a big game about choice and competition and then shid n biss like a motherfucker on the rare occasion they dont get something.

>>744530901
>doing that NOW at the height of anti-microsoft sentiment
This would just be securing Linux's future. Maybe later after they've unfucked 11 enough or at least stockholmed the holdouts into thinking they don't have a choice.

>>744531004
>golden age is muh isometric rts

>>744526947
Sony has been hacked and leaked millions of peoples payment information multiple times though?

>>744529819
This yeah. You can scream at people to not give out log in info or click on strange links until your blue in the face and they'll still do it without a thought.
Works that way I regular security too. Our building has heavy security that genuinely does their job, only one real entrance, no one gets in or out the door without them seeing. So how did we still get people sneaking in? Idiots sneaking out the fire escape for to smoke, propping it open so they don't have to spent 5 seconds scanning their card, and forgot to remove the prop do the dot was just wide open.

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You will leave when we will allow you to leave.

>>744531061
>This would just be securing Linux's future.
Lol so microsoft is completely trash without 3rd parties?

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>>744530901
>>744531061
So fucking based! I hope Windows 12 will enforce S-Mode. Only allowing Microsoft Apps. But what would happen with Epic Games then? nvm, it's on the MS Store, unlike Steam. Please, please, please god let this happen. PLEASE.

>>744531196
Ask anyone why they haven't switched to linux yet and they'll inevitably produce a long list of 3rd party software they can't live without.

>>744531291
I wouldn't be surprised if anti-cheats will eventually start requiring S mode lol.

>>744530274
This. PC retards basically repeat word by word any crap Gaben shits in their mouth.
They'll always repeat shit like "piracy is a service" issue like a mantra. PC tards are basically incapable of having any thoughts on their own, their entire purpose is to suck Gaben's dick every day until they die.

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>>744516117
>>Steamfags seethe uncontrollably
not me
get your commiefornian safe horny shit out of my store

>>744531352
Discord opinion
You could replace every mention of anything steam related and say it about all consoles

>>744531346
>I wouldn't be surprised if anti-cheats will eventually start requiring S mode lol.
Bro pleaaase. I hope this will happen, unironically. And that makes sense.. now that I'm thinking about it. That's actually really smart, disabling all 3rd party software with 1 click, as long as the anti cheat is running. Or fucking permanently on.

>>744531346
they already do
Battlefield 6 got plenty of flack for it

>>744531352
Say what you want, but before I started using Steam and GoG I did pirate 100% of my games because piracy was infinitely more convenient than the other options. I pirated all the way up until like 2009.

>>744531489
BF6 does not require S-mode.

>>744521709
You can take all those franchises and fuck off. Thank God. Don't come back either lol, stinky stinky!

>>744531531
Now you don't pirate because??? You like showing off your hentai game collection to steam friends?
Piracy is still way more convenient unless you are too lazy to google a reddit megathread

>>744531531
>muh convenience
Literal nigger mentality. Yes, it's more convenient to shoplift than to pay for shit. PC cucks and niggers are one and the same thing.

>>744531489
>Battlefield 6 got plenty of flack for it
Lmfao. MS killed Xbox and they are on their way killing Windows, this shit makes me so happy. Mac for work and SteamOS/Linux for gayming/personal use.

>>744531442
Difference is steam drones pretend they smart and free thinkers while doing the same thing they say console users do

>>744531630
I still pirate, I just don't pirate 100% anymore. Before I started using Steam, buying wasn't even an option.

>>744531531
>Steam and GoG
Based
> I pirated all the way up until like 2009
Extremely based, it's much safer nowadays, compared to back then. I only buy online games.

>>744530901
Funny you should say that, Microsoft actually took huge lawsuits in the 90s about locking down their software only for themselves like that.
Basically it's unfair competition, where people need to be able to run software they like on their computers, not only what Microsoft allows.

>>744531730
>while doing the same thing they say console users do
I can't believe steam players pay a monthly fee to use steam's online services

oh wait

>>744531675
>calls anyone a nigger while encouraging stealing

>>744531782
I mean it's THEIR fucking property. Just like on phones, if Apple and Google don't let you in their Stores and they make sideloading extremely difficult, you are FUCKED. I pray to god that Microsoft will lockdown their shit so heavily and forces the MS Store, just like every other sane OS (MacOS, iOS, Android, Linux, BSD) all other OS's heavily encourage their stores, just on MS you do .exe hunting.

>>744516117
I actually don't care at all because Microsoft doesn't put out any good games anyway

>>744516117
>Microsoft might leave Steam
oh no, I won't be able to play... uhh
Gaylo
Bethesda trash
nu Doom
and uhhh
Oh no! Woe is me!

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>>744531909
Piracy is stealing

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>multiple threads about this because the fat retard Jez Corden spouted literal bullshit on his 200 viewer xbox podcast
Is that really all it takes to make the rounds nowadays? Just say "[x] MIGHT be doing [controversial thing] but idk.....maybe??? haha" then when confronted, say "I never actually said they were doing it"

>>744532042
>Piracy is stealing
Ehm, we have laws for that and it's called copyright. How can I "steal" something from you, when I'm just making a copy? I would never steal your bike, but I'd definitely copy your game. It doesn't hurt you.
>B-but if you can't pirate you would b-buy the game
No

>>744532151
Would you be able to acquire a copy if DRM actually protected the property?
Just because it's easy doesn't mean it's not stealing

>>744516790
They should just ally with Timdog

>>744516348
Oh the epic thread titled "sad news" on 4chan dot org? That's where you get all your opinions from?
Okay I get it, you're mentally weak on top of being a gullible little imbecile

>>744532279
It's stealing when you go into a shop and steal a disc based game. Not when you make a copy of something on the internet.

>>744531859
Retard reading comprehension skills, talking about corporate worship behavior

>>744532340
>It's not stealing because I don't directly see the impact
Brown mindset

>>744532151
Can i get a copy of social security number

>>744531326
Middle click behavior not being configurable to mirror Windows is a bigger barrier to me than software availability on Linux, and even then I got over it.

>>744532151
>>B-but if you can't pirate you would b-buy the game
>No
Yeah you would, because you wouldnt be able to play the game otherwise

>>744532324
I assume they're either a Sankaku Complex ragebait inhaler or they're from Nichegamer whenever I see that because those are the only two places I can think of that do that Japanese "[good news]" thing that not even the Japanese do after they got made fun of relentlessly for it being chintzy.

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>>744531326
I switched to linux exactly because I don't have any important software missing and I am the do-everything kind of guy.

>>744521709
AAA games like COD, Forza and Halo don't keep the lights up on the Steam ecosystem. If anything, alternative businesses like Palworld or indie publishers like Subnautica and Slay the Spire 2 do a lot more in bringing the store to life.

>>744518573
>This one's on PCvcks.
What does this have to do with moneyhavers? I can use steam on my pc you dumb brown fuck.

>>744532419
>Brown mindset
I'm probably the whitest boy ITT, with blue eyes from evrope. I have enough money, but paying for something you can't touch is actual "brown mindset"

>>744518003
This service was literal ass, fucking uPlay was a better launcher

>>744532463
>Can i get a copy of social security number
Ad absurdum
>Yeah you would, because you wouldnt be able to play the game otherwise
I never was in that situation, but I'd probably buy it on PS5 then, on Disc... oh wait...

>>744516117
>>Steamfags seethe uncontrollably
Was that in the article?

oh no! i wont be able to play.... uh.... ill get back with you hold on

>>744516721
Microsoft Flight Simulator is the only one.

>>744532151
>we have laws for that and it's called copyright
By your logic, burglary and robbery aren't stealing because the law gives them a different name.
Piracy is a form of stealing.

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>>744532894
>I am le white
>I want everyone to steal

>>744518093
>Steam undermines console and game pass.
Yes, let's put our 70 dollar games on Gamepass so that players can play all our games (that cost 400 million dollars to make) for a fraction of the price and then leave. How do we save Xbox??? Let's stop selling our games to more people (who aren't going to buy a console anyway) and then we'll prompt more retro vibes logos and remake Halo again. Microsoft is the dumbest fucking company on Earth. But it's not their fault, it's (other store)

>>744532894
>I'm probably the whitest boy ITT, with blue eyes from evrope.
That doesnt mean shit, slavs are maybe one tier above browns if that

dont care every studio they bought is shit now anyway

>>744521709
god tier bait post

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>>744533093
>Piracy is a form of stealing.
Who says that? Where is the source? Sorry, I follow US Law, I don't know what kind of African logic you want to use on me.

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>>744530274
>a "good service" is a BAD and VILE concept to aspire to, ACTUALLY
They have completely lost it

>>744516117
seethe ? i'm glad microsoft leave steam, fuck them

How cancer would a modern day microsoft game launcher be?

>>744533271
Standard microsoft activity, they buy out a business, they fuck everything up, then they shut it down and shelve the intellectual property forever. It's not even specific to games, Gates was doing it to the entire tech sector back in the 90s.

>>744530274
>>744531352
>Not a real person used words like """"""""good"""""""
the absolute state of tendies, they're literal orcs

this would be huge news if microsoft made good games but they don't

>>744532279
>>744532463
>>744532468
>>744533093
Okay I'm sorry Bronons, I agree with you, because theoretically you are stealing something. But I just wanted to make clear, that it's literally by law. I just buy most of my games on Steam and GOG, the only reason I don't pirate is because I'm afraid of a viruses.
>>744533225
kek

>>744533430
A 1:1 carbon copy of GFWL, but this time it has ubiquitous AI integration at every level of its development and maintenance

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>>744533603
>AI powered DRM
I M A G I N E

>>744533658
No thanks, I've imagined enough.

>>744532894
>It's not stealing because it's not a physical object
So if someone gets into your bank account and empties it it's not stealing?

>>744533721
I'm done with my larp and yes that's stealin, because that someone doesn't copy it, he takes it.

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>>744516790
they cant even beat playstation how the fuck do you think they will beat steam with a playerbase with a multitude to the size of playstation? microsoft has to publish their games or they wont make money on their release dates with their budget Gear Eday cost hundred of millions they wont recoup that on xbox alone, they need to publish elsewhere, now if the argument is xbox and pc only then i can understand it but if its xbox only no one one pc is moving to console, sony already found that out real quick

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>>744530827
>fans claiming they are bigger than all other game companies
When do they say that? Are you a child? Do you understand any of the basics on the computer components manufacturing industry?

>>744533438
they lack bills foresight because now they actually have to sell you something people want but theyve ruined everything

>>744533721
It wouldn't be stealing if I still had my money. Retard. What do I care if someone else copies the numbers of my bank account to their bank account.

>>744518003
Surely Microsoft will totally learn and come up with a good reason to make people want to use a service like this again.

>>744534112
>What do I care if someone else copies the numbers of my bank account to their bank account.
Studies have shown that people would rather press the $1 button, if they have the option to give someone $1 or $1000.

>>744533975
Yeah they aren't exactly in the position to do so and would probably backfire hard.
But this is Microsoft so if anyone was gonna go full retard it would be them.

>>744533721
It actually isn't, not by law anyway. They get you on cybercrime like that with charges like fraud, identity falsification and money laundering. Theft (larceny) in legal definitions does require a physical property to be removed from the possession of one person to another, shit like copyright violation is treated differently as a result. It's just easier to tell the laymen that it's stealing because going over the specifics of legal code is an exercise in frustration and they won't retain the information anyway, and wouldn't get any use out of knowing it if they did retain it.

>>744528226
He literally got punished though.