Musou Warriors vidya are pretty much all I play.larger-than-life characters in massive battles slaughtering other characters and legions of minions.why haven't there been more adaptations?there was a shitty Troy one, a half decent Fist of the North Star one, Fire Emblem and Hyrule are both good, I enjoyed the Gundam one, the Samurai ones are great.but think of all the wars that would fit a musou game, all the IPs.I'm genuinely amazed Star Wars of all slop genres never got one. battlefront is fun but imagine a clone wars Musou game.Starship Troopers?Dragonball Z?LotR?Warhammer 40k?Doom?Mortal Kombat?He-Man?D&Dany kind of heroic/war IP would make an amazing Musou game. shit I'd love a WWII one where you're retaking the pacific islands with a BAR that never runs out of ammo slaughtering countless jap soldiers then your musou attack calls a P-51 mustang that machineguns everything in front of you or some awesome shit like that.
I'd like to see Warcraft Warriors.
>>744655123warcraft is the perfect IP for a warriors game
have you played that bleach ps3 game that afaik is fairly musou
>>744655259nah but you did remind me that One Piece has a musou game.I despise One Piece and most anime in that style but the musou game is pretty fun
>>744655123Oh me? I'm a Denathrius main.
>>744654359>Fist of the North Star oneWhats the name? I need a new good game. Also what is the game from OP's pic
>>744654359>Warhammer 40k?I want to see Warriors Warhammer fantasy with the universe technically that they can probably do more if things went this way with fantasy than 40K probably.
what'd be perfect is a really good melee warriors engine and a ranged warriors engine and have hundreds of skins available so I can basically have an Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator that's a bit more of an actual game.I'm playing DW8 atm and in free mode I love the knights skin for both sides. it's refreshing seeing european mercenaries/knights after hours of chink conscripts. there's some kind of pale demon/zombie skin which is fun too.I'd love more skins so I can fight the battle of ching chong for the hundredth time but this time it's napoleonic troops and all the characters come equipped with ranged weapons reskinned as muskets etc
>>744655810FotNS; Ken's Rage (PS3/360 era game)the OP game is just DW8)
>>744656171definitely, I'd love to be a khorne follower and slaughter legions of empire troops and skaven clanrats
>>744654359There's a new musou game that came out recently
>>744656272come to think of it the ranged combat in DW is fine, equipping a bow and running and gunning is fun af. keep that but just have the option to reskin the ranged weapons as guns and shit. I don't want over-shoulder aiming like most 3rd-person shooters, I want run and gun chaos that just locks onto whoever's closest.
>>744654359 I want them to do a Warriors game for a new Nintendo IP I mean one that they haven't done before yet.
>>744655810>>744656396about DW8 on pc, yesterday I learned there's a 4k and 120 fps mod after all these years called zmodthere's a link in steam guides section
>>744654359Always thought that a xenoblade warriors game would be fun, I think it's just maybe too niche a genre to get enough interest, and the issue compounds when omega force are the only ones really making them (apart from sandlot making edf)
i need a new gundam warriors with the musha gundamsi thought the 2 AI controlled gundams were the coolest thing ever as a kid
I wanted >Bishoujo Senshi Sailor MusouBut I'll settle for PreSou instead. First game goes up to Fresh, second game goes up to HaCha.
>>744655123Post that webm
>>744656648look like game for toddler
>>744655123Warcraft isn't a nintendo IP..Omega Force only does Nintendo licences anymore.If Asha has any ambitions of rejuvenating the Xbox IP, they would indeed make a Warcraft Musou.It's success would likely spawn TLOTR musou, Harry Potter musou, Mahvel musou, and many more western IP musou.
What went so wrong?
>>744658959yeah it doespretty fun though
Hey I have an idea, what if we make a musou warriors but with actual gameplay. You know, like we did 25 years ago.
>>744654359Blue Archive Musou
>>744662286This too, I'll main Karin, Seia and Yuzu.
>>744662286A bit off since BA focus more on guns and /k/. Off but not impossible to make. Should be a rts/strategy game instead.
>>744662286a coomer musou would be kino. I loved senran kagura on my 3ds, now THAT needs a musou game.
>>744654359Sneed musou
>>744663936Didn't SK have a musou, but it was developed by someone else?
>>744664947I forget its name but tat rings a bell.I think guilty gear attempted it too if memory serves but I seem to recall everyone saying it sucked?Metal Slug needs a musou too.Halo, Gears of War.Dune would be excellent too.think how kino Warriors of Dune would be. use the plot of Battle for Arrakis on the megadrive/genesis (emperor decides to have all the houses fight a war on Arrakis to determine who'll rule it) and really lean into the feudal empires in space aesthetic. mostly melee combat and when the fighting takes place outside cities, sometime sandworms will appear and eat everything on a section of the battlefield and you get a few seconds to escape the Worm Zone.musou powers are spice/voice powers.all the major imperial houses to choose from, all-female bene gesserit force, the sardaukar, the fremen, fuck Warriors of Dune would be amazing.
>>744658512never heard that one before, looks cool
>>744654359>LotRThat's what I wanted. It was unrealistic but a Suikoden version was my hope.
>>744666741LotR got a Battlefront-style game on the PS2 which missed the mark for me but plenty of people enjoyed it. as much as I enjoyed battlefront I do prefer the OTT style of musou games.
>>744655123Blizzard doesn't make games.
>>744669869nor should it be blizzard who makes warcraft warriors. let omega force or koei or whoever use the IP
>>744666930Conquest was 360/PS3 wasn't it? PS2 had the movie beat em ups and those were honestly closer to what a LotR musou should be.Just take ROTK, add actual maps with capture points, named captains everywhere, playable Sauron/Witch King/Balrog in evil route and you're done. Somehow nobody can do the obvious thing.
>>744670106oh shit yeah it was the 360 era.yeah I had the two towers ps2 game which was pretty decent. I know I 100%ed it before I traded it in. good, but not a keeper.so frustrating how the obvious choices are barely ever made.Imagine playing a musou and you're aragorn on the pellenor fields etc
So what are some recent musous? Feels like there hasn’t been one since Origins
I'm just getting into the genre, recc your favorite musou games.
>>744671301emulate sw 2 empirestheres another musou thread here thats about done but might be worth scrolling through >>744556482
>>744671301I currently only have my switch lite so I don't have access to many of them but on past consoles I've had;>dynasty warriors 3 xtreme legendsps2 era.probably extremely dated now but was where I found my love of the series>dynasty warriors advanceGBA (emulated)fun travel version of the game>dynasty warriors DSDSicouldn't even figure out how to play this one>Samurai Warriors Chronicles3DSdefinitely the best strictly handheld version I ever played. no idea how many hours I put into this one.>hyrule warriors3dsanother excellent one, but I really don't like the character designs of nintendo games, they look like happy meal toys and just have this manchild sóyboy bingwahoo quality that I can't get past.mascots like crash and sonic look so cool and appeal to my inner edgy 15yo, but nintento mascots just look like harmless safe little trophies on a cuck's mancave shelf.>legends of troy360should have been amazing, nearly was, but shat the bed because even when playing free mode, you were locked to the canon character. you couldn't main achilles, you had to play as ajax on an ajax level etc. some of the best battles were using characters you didn't like playing as so it ruined the game. you play story mode to get past that character-locking bullshit.>gundam warriors 2360loved this one. musou with massive robots. you had a cleverly-done orbital battle first before landing and battling on land amid cities etc.>Fist of the North Star; Ken's Rage360looked like fallout, played like musou. fistfights with hundreds of bandits in a post-nuclear wasteland and boss battles straight out of the movie. great fun. limited cast though, I mean you only really played Ken amd half the fun of musou games is having dozens of characters who all play slightly different>dynasty warriors 6360classic dynasty warriors, each DW is basically the same game over and over with a graphical overhaul, a new mechanic or two, and a growing cast
>>744654359>a half decent Fist of the North Star oneI actually like how both of those were straight up beat 'em ups rather than standard Musou.
>>744659157Capcom stopped localizing games. >OYAKATA-SAMA>YUKIMURAAAA
>>744673360dw6 had a completely different combat system that almost killed the franchise and is the furthest thing possible from classic dynasty warriors
>>744671301>>744673360cont lol>touken ranbu warriorsswitchbit of an odd one this. I want to like it but the missions are too short. you don't play whole battles, you play missions that take like 5 minutes. the combat is great and even introduces some boss and dodge mechanics but the missions are too linear and short.>one piece warriors 4switchprobably much better if you like anime but I fucking hate it, and all the wacky bizarre anime shit in this game is just offputting and annoying. 99% of the cast use weird weapons like guitars and robot arms and stretchy limbs and as someone who only uses swords in vidya I'm stuck with some dude in a hoodie and a massive katana but his attacks use some weird mechanic where he traps them in a bubble before using his sword, zoro whose combo finishers spawn like 8 arms that looks retarded, and some vampire looking faggot with a crucifix greatsword. good gameplay but despise the art style. got it on sale.>warriors abyssswitchstrange one this, not a proper entry bit I love it so I'll count it. played with a diablo-style perspective, you play short, increasingly-difficult maps where you have to slaughter a certain number of enemies and unlock more characters. plays a bit like a mobile/gacha game. budget addition to the collectionfinally lol>dynasty warriors 8 extreme legends definitive editionswitch for me, but it's on everything.definitely my favourite but there are loads I haven't played yet. Samurai warriors 5 is on there, Orochi warriors 4, fire emblem warriors, I intend to get them all but this is an expensive series lol.love it, combat is perfected, lots of alternative outfits, any character can wield any weapon, lots of modes to play including an rpg-esque ambition mode where you have to fight battles to collect allies and resources to build your base.
>>744674251did it? felt just like a dynasty warriors game to me.what was different?onky thing that bothered was I always mained Lu Xun for his cool somersault move while double-wielding swords, but he lost that move and wielded one longsword in dw6.
>>744673440yeah, they were a funny hybrid but they did work. I did miss fighting alongside allies though, I like DW for the battle feeling. just being Ken alone lost some of the magic for me
>>744674672the renbu system sucked. i put dw6 below dw9
Isn't there a new one coming out from a new studio about a big korean chicken?
>>744675543That's Nexon Canada, not KT
Jojo Musou would be DIMESJust have the mooks be Dio puppets or make up a new villain whose stand creates armies. Then have the generals be the classic enemies
I dunno man, I got over 120 fucking musou games sitting here on my shelf. I don't know if i do need any more.
>>744676451most of those are just sequels dude.dynasty warriors, samurai warriors, warriors orochi, onepiece all have several if not dozens of entries.what I want is some fresh IPs but ue same gameplay.I don't want another dynasty warriors, I want warriors of dune, world of warriorcraft, warriorhammer 40k, warriors of the rings, barsoom warriors, conan warriors, starship warriors, warriors of the force, disney fucking princess warriors, final fantasy warriors, warriors of the pacific, napoleonic warriors, warriors of the æsir the list is endless.I've fought the battle of chingchong bridge a million fucking times, let me fight the battle of arrakeen for once.
>>744654359Literally the worst genre ever
>>744677172no u
>>744677172with the amount of games that are out now it probably looks like a gacha genre if you didnt grow up with it. a lot of us were here when it was just dw though, prior to the 95 spinoffs
>>744677398saved, kinoest image ever
reminder that DW2-4 and SW1-2 were the best executed versions of the genre; modern warriors slop is nowhere near as fun as the old onesthough it's all superior to westurd trash so keep it up omega force
I like the PS2 DW/SW series, but not really any other musou.
>>744654359>Still no TRUE sequel to DW8>Still no TRUE sequel to SW4Omega-Force. All you have to do is make a damn sequel game properly and people will show up in droves as once was usual.
>>744677172Then you don't have to play it.>>744677398Absolute fucking hero.
>>744677596>>744677612PS2mind
>>744673360>probably extremely dated now but was where I found my love of the seriesIf by dated you mean "mooks can actually damage you" then yeah
>>744659157Capcom never bothered bringing the games over to the West after this.IEYASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
>>744677596sw2 empires is about as good as it gets for a musou game
>>744677771It would be pure profit to do a steam port of 4 now, they are retards for ignoring it
>>744677579It's been constantly evolving, but I'm probably not gonna pick anything else up until around christmas.
>>744675742That's what I mean. A new studio making one means an increase in interest, surely
>>744677767I meant character models, textures, draw distance and characters on screen.spawn points in DW3 spawned FIVE conscripts a timespawn points in DW8 must spawn like 30 dudes constantly.I know that quantity isn't quality bit the battles felt more skirmish in scale during the ps2 era
They sorta had a framework for a wuxia musou and I still want one years after they made Strikeforce.
>>744677932oh shit that's YOUR collection? I don't normally come on /v/, I'm a /fit/, /tg/ and /x/fag mostly, I assumed that was jist a /v/ image that gets shared a lot.mirin that collection
>>744678724I'd rather have 5 actual enemies than 30 guys to mow down in a single combo.
>>744679110>I'd rather play EVERY COMBAT GAME EVER instead of what defines dynasty warriorsyou know this is a dynasty warriors thread, right?go play some arkham or souls slop if you only want to take on 5 dudes.
>>744654359I just bought Warrior Orochi 4I do wish more musous had huge women be playable like PW4 though
>>744655123We don't need western made, watered-down dogshit infecting Koei Tecmo
>>744664947I don't think so. There was the neptunia crossover which sucked and isn't a musou
>>744679269You didn't need to pick back then.At least the upcoming remaster is trying
i would like warriors abyss but expanded into a full musou game. imagine WO4 but its a roguelike where you have to build your team as you progress and they actually have their full movesets and you can switch between them and stuff.
>>744679272kek yeah the women on 1P;PW do have amazing tits.menu screens like pic rel need to be more common.
>>744679594yeah I'd much prefer abyss if your team actually were AI controlled allies on the battlefield with you that you could switch between instead of just appearing for 5 seconds during a summon move.soloing hundreds of mooks is what dw is about but having the FEEL of a battle having allies with you is what makes it different and more epic. you plus your half dozen bonded allies fighting as a warband would be far better.
>>744679269Grass cutting simulators are closer to actual combat than modern DW games lmao, I want to feel cool defeating whole armies, not watch my dude pulling off laser beams from his ass and destroying 9999 mannequins that don't even attack you in two seconds
>>744680212nigga just play on a harder difficulty. mooks are only passive mannequins on like beginner-normal mode.dw8 xtremel legends even has a nightmare mode that makes the AI SUPER aggressive.again, go play literally any other fucking combat game you faggot and get out of my dynasty warriors thread.
Musou was not supposed to be a "mow em all down" genre, that's just what it turned into after earning that reputation from journalists and players who only ever played on Easy ModeIt's supposed to be a battlefield crisis management gameThe best modern examples of this staying true to the original formula are Dragon Quest Heroes 2 and funny enough, Bladestorm (it is closer to Kessen, but Kessen is closer to Musou than what passes as Musou now)
If they make more musou games then make them with character creation
oh shit who remembers ninety-nine nights on the 360?it tried so hard to be a musou game but it just wasn't quite right. cast was too small and I think certain maps were character locked, and a lot of the levels were just not fun, but it used sprites for distant characters saving memory so it made the battle look absolutely HUGE and the design, while a little generic was pretty cool.
>>744680716this. yeah it's a gripe of mine too. as much as I love having a massive cast of officers I'd much rather create my own
>>744680458>dw8 baby thinks that's aggressivelol lmao
DW6 was way overhated and had a lot of good points.Good thing the director is finally back in charge. Origins' gameplay really shows what he was going for back then if Sony hadn't rushed the game out the door for Christmas
>>744680808I just want to make Pol Pot and kill all Nanman
>>744680716>>744680808tranny accessibility options are important sisters
>>744680656>musou was not supposed to be a "mow em all down" genreyes it was. kessen was the strategy game, as was empires later on.musou was always golden axe on steroids, PCP and acid and you're a pseud faggot for thinking otherwise.
>>744680656Gan Ning's musou attack says otherwise.>>744673440Currently replaying through this. Man, Kenshiro moves likes he's covered in molasses, but the jump cancel and roll cancels help a lot. Kind of a shame the 2nd game removed jumps.
>>744681017You're a newfag and a brainlet for not recognizing the actual design philosophy behind the PS2 generation
>>744680656there are enough total war RTS and hybrid games like bladestorm and bannerlord.fuck off, musou is haha sword go slicy casual mindless fun.
>>744680458Bro I like DW8XL but the AI is not aggressive at all
>>744681017>Empires>Strategy game
>>744681279>musou is haha sword go slicy casual mindless fun.Something only a mindless casual would say
>>744681320meh, I play on easy, I just read that on harder difficulties the AI gets a lot more aggressive. I'm not here to be challenged by my vidya, fucking miserable lifeless cunts who want their vidya to be hard.I play vidya when I'm not plapping my fwb, working out, kickboxing or playing guitar, I have pastimes that exert me. vidya is my relaxation.
>>744681562>meh, I play on easy>in DW8Holy... really hoping DW3 remaster still has the meme archer just to fuck with those people.
>>744654359Make Star Fox Warriors with guns.Recent Nintendo Warriors games match Star Fox 2's formula decently well.
>>744681562Ah yes, the Navy Seal Astronaut Rock Star MMA champion /v/irgin. I have heard of you in several threads.
>>744681471god I hate it here. the thread started off so well then the fucking joyless autistic retards found it and now it's just "I don't like the game you all enjoy, I completed a no-death run of Dodge Slop 17 on Utterly Unenjoyable mode" all games should be joyless autistic pattern memorisation games to stop you sex havers playing them."
>>744680656A fun fact is the original MOBA, Aeon of Strife, began as a Dynasty Warriors tribute mod. Meaning it was responsible for the creation of DOTA and LoL.This is the difference between people that "get it" and people that don't.
>>744682081Sorry bros, but for the sake of the world, I'm going to have to go back in time and prevent Koei from making DW2.
>>744681826I play along to guns n roses on my cheap pacifica, plap a fat chick, do a calisthenics routine in my livingroom, and kickbox for fitness because it's so much fun.it's called having a healthy lifestyle, it's pretty normal.the whole "oh, you EXERCISE and HAVE SEX? kek what a LARPER!" is just cope.exercise, sex and musical hobbies are pretty common you sad cunt
Dynasty Warriors 3 Remastered is coming out on October 1st. Looks extremely faithful going by the most recent Dengeki gameplay videos. https://youtu.be/S60OkcC1UMI?is=P0PGqtiQh30cZst-
>>744682218fair
>>744682081Funny enough, the best Musou game I have ever played also happens to be considered a MOBA as well.Dynasty Warriors clones always fail for the same reason MH clones always fail: They miss the actual essence of the genre for the surface level appearance of it. Even if most gamers can't articulate what's missing themselves, they still feel that the copies are missing something and go back to the original.
>>744681708I wish I could get on board with this but I really don't want warriors to become a fucking nintendo thing.slippery slope before it's owned by nintendo and it becomes some consoomer shit for sóy manchildren to play while tyrone is fucking their wives.nintendo has smash bros, for the ire of fucking Crom don't let warriors become a nintendo series
>>744682341Wish they showed which difficulty they are playing. If that's Normal, damn. Can't wait to see Hard and Very Hard.
>>744682341My only concern is that it won't have online multiplayer.LOCAL co-op is confirmed... but that's not really useful in 2026. Zoomers and Alphoomers don't go to each others houses to play games, and all my friends have scattered across the country as adults
>>744682510>Even if most gamers can't articulate what's missing themselvesWhat's missing is the part where old DW was actually about two armies fighting each other. Both on-screen and off-screen, the latter making heavy use of the morale system.
ok faggots, can you please reread OP?This isn't a "what is and isn't a musou game" thread, it's a "what IPs SHOULD be musou games?"take your autistic joyless bullshit to another thread and let us have our fun speculation and appreciation thread.
>>744682864That and the need for the player to manage that morale, both by taking advantage of highs and running damage control on lows.The morale system in the old games allowed unexpected developments in every stage, many such cases where a seemingly random faceless general would get a lucky win and suddenly he's got full morale and is steamrolling your named dudes on the other side of the field and heading straight to your commander.Modern musou games stopped allowing anything like that to happen because they wanted to script the entire stage to go exactly the same way every time, so they could have their gay cinematic "stop and listen to people talking before the gate opens" shit
>>744683127But how can you make more musou games if you can't define what musou should really be?
>>744683206kys
>>744683127>>744682335>>744682039Janny application got denied, huh?Try again next time
>>744683206have that autistic retard discussion elsewhere.we know what the fuck a musou game is
>>744683284And people say casuals aren't the most entitiled.PS2 boomers won btw, they are getting their DW3 again, and it might be used for the next mainline games too.
>>744654359Still waiting for Square to pull their finger out of their ass and ask Koei to make a FF Dissidia Musou. They already have a long standing partnership ffs and the setting is perfect
>>744683420is dissidia just all ff characters? I'd be on board with that, I'd love a musou where I can play as Cloud
>>744683420THIS is genuinely baffling to me.Licensed musou prints money. They are cheap as hell to make and sell gangbusters. Koei has a winning formula.SE already made two DQ Musou games which sold great afaikSo they had Koei on the phone for a FF spinoff and had them make... an arcade arena fighter?? From a studio that hasn't made an arena fighter in 30 fucking years??
>>744683127They should make a shmup musou.>>744683420They would rather just pump and dump gacha games and shut them down 3 years later.
>>744682341More importantly>map shows sub-officers nowThank FUCK. I mean, you can do with mods in DW3XL too nowadays, but still.
>>744677398Do you not like Sengoku Basara?
>>744683659>licensed musou prints money. They are cheap as hell to make and sell gangbustersexactly! the engine is there, the formula is perfected, it's literally a retexture and some new dialogue to create a new full-price game.I'd unashamedly let myself get ripped off and buy DW8 again if all they did was reskin it as Dune or Conan or Vikings or Warhammer/40KIt's the ONE property I unironically consoom and they aren't taking advantage of it.
>>744683706>they should make a shmup musou.kino suggestion
I want a warrior orochi musou so I can marry my backstabbing wife Da Ji
>>744682341Such a low effort cashgrab to milk the Chinesethe Halo Campaign Evolved, Oblivion Remastered and Ninja Gaiden 2 Black of Dynasty Warriors worst Guan Yu costume btw, better include alts
>>744654359>>744683127I think the original Dragon Ball would work better with the idea of fighting a villain's top henchmen and hoards of minions more than Dragon Ball Z which is basically all 1v1s.What I want to ask is how many story premises that are trendy actually facilitate something like a musou. Maybe Korean urban fantasy? Like genuine question, I think the pool is limited and risks forcing a musou pattern into stories/series that don't mesh well with it.
>>744684061>worst Guan Yu costume btwNah, that's DW6 with his stupid haircut
>>744683706A shmup is already just a ranged-attack musou.What even would be the difference?
>>744684061>Such a low effort cashgrab to milk the ChineseIt's something old players actually wanted, what do you mean? Not even the only remaster, they are going to do the other PS2 games too.
>>744677172You're a npc
>>744684070totally agree on dragonball. playing as a dbz character and battering hundreds of minions and have named characters as the officers would be far more on theme than another dogshit 1v1 game.
>>744684126allied ships on your side, not on rails, instead you've a whole space station map to free roam and take over one base at a time.
>>744684061It's the highest effort remaster ever made, according to the information.No expense spared, new mechanics, new characters, true to the original spirit, everything on toggle so you can do whatever you want with it.They even purposely redubbed it with the old wrong pronunciations because they know people love it.
>>744684259The OG Dragon Ball had more of a monster of the week format so you can unironically just say "mad scientist and his minions" and it would be very coherent. Problem is DBZ and Super is what actually makes money :/
>>744684259>unique story for every character with fun what ifs If only....I want to play as Nappa and become the legendary super saiyan
>>744659157I fucking loved this game, it was one of the best games I've ever played. It was like a 3D mega-man in ancient Japan.
>>744684070Absolutely agreeDB having characters with actual different fighting styles, special moves that have more going for them than "BIGGER Explosion!", gimmicks, variety of enemies and locations other than "nondescript desert"Original DB Musou would be a dream, especially if it was cel-shaded.
>>744684113true but my brain retcons DW6's existence >>744684179no, we wanted an actual remastered HD port of PS2 games like DMC/MGS/Kingdom Hearts collection not this ugly hazy Oblivion Remastered UE5 demake rape >>744684375shut the fuck up oh my god you shilling DOG
>>744684634Kill yourself nigger, you are out of line.
>>744684634You were not going to be happy with anything that's not literally an emulator mod. It could be better, sure, but that's a genuine soulful "remaster" from a guy who actually worked on the originals.
>>744684634I hate it so much.
>>744684634
>>744684864eat a bag of shit you shilling slave nigger>>744684896>You were not going to be happyI told you "remastered HD port of PS2 games like DMC/MGS/Kingdom Hearts collection" >soulful it's an ugly soulless UE5 niggershit slop actually featuring DWO faggot
I want Dissidia musou>basic FF mobs as mooks like goblins, bombs, and the like>manikins as lieutenants>summons as field bosses
>>744685037>portWhat's even the point? You can emulate the original with a texture mod, higher resolution etc. I'd rather a new game, and it's what we are getting.
>>744685091>summons as field bossesI want to play as the summons, at least for a few seconds like the big mobile armor modes in Gundam Reborn
My wife...
>>744685154PS2 emulation is clunky shit with XL and those versions also lack assets of DW4 Hyper and DW5 Special which are incomplete since they either lack localizations or XL SW2 HD is also Jap only to this daywe wanted a complete collection package of these preserved games in best possible edition, also with Empires something Capcom does with their retro fighting game rereleases
>>744665752Senran Kagura games have been musous, look at the Versus titles. And there was also two Neptunia ones, Tagmension Blanc and Neptunia U, and Fate has like 3.And Guilty Gear sort of had one in Guilty Gear 2. You play as Sol, Sin(in his first appearance), Ky, Raven (in their first appearance) and several other new characters who haven't returned since, and it's closer to the Dragon Warrior ones, where you summon monsters to capture bases which let you summon more monsters, and the goal is to break the opponent's main base.>>744671301Do not listen to >>744673360 this man.Gundam Musou RebornDW8 XLOrochi 2 and 3 ultimateKen's Rage 2One Piece 3(newest one, and it has nearly every major character playable)Hyrule Warriors on Switch, as it has more stuff than the 3ds or WiiU version.Origins, if you're used to modern games with parries and dodge rollsand if those aren't doing it for you, chances are you're going to not really enjoy any of the lesser ones.
>>744685513They didn't ask you, they asked me, and I wanted what we're getting.They said you were just too gay to take seriously.
>>744685513>PS2 emulation is clunky shit with XL>he doesn't know about merged ISO and autoloading codes So this is the power of people who pay for ports...
>>744685493Stinky
>>744685645you're a cum slurper and this game was made to milk the UE5 loving chink secondaries that started playing musous with DW8you're also a stupid nigger because real fans wanted DW4 Hyper, DW5 Special, SW2 HD, WOZ since forever
>>744685852I started with 4(also played 3 afterwards, ofc) and wanted thisnta
>>744685952you specifically wanted a brown slop UE5 demake with stock fire SFX on musou attacks that causes slowdowns? animal
>>744685852>real fans wanted DW4 Hyper, DW5 Special, SW2 HD, WOZ since foreverReal fans got that shit 20 fucking years ago, retard.
>>744685638Switch the One Piece to 4, I sort of write off the first one since story mode plays much differently than a musou, and it has a tiny roster (Straw Hats, Jinbei, Whitebeard, and Blackbeard), not as bad as Ken's Rage 1, but still tiny. 2 is going up to I think Dressrosa, and has a much bigger roster, 3 was an original story and expanded the roster, but did remove a few, 4 goes all the way to Kaido before the DLC, and the newest DLC pass added Gear 5 and more levels.
>>744685638Senran Kagura games are 3d beat em ups, they are not musou games. They don't have the battlefield aspect. Only the Fate games were actually a musou. >>744685852>company wants to cater to people who bought their recent games instead of people who are still playing games from 3 generations agoYou didn't really think this through, did you?
>>744686116no shit retard ape we want it on rendered in 4K on Steam in English and without FPS drops which Hyper and SW2HD have
>>744686208we're back where we started >low effort cashgrab to milk the UE5 loving chink secondaries that started playing musous with DW8thank you for conceding
>>744686101UE5 is just an engine, you are acting like it raped your family and dog.
>>744686302>UE5 is just an enginea shit one that allowed for a deluge of low effort demake rape slop >>744684634 >>744684914
I want a xenowarriors so bad its pretty much one of my dream games at this point. The potential is insane.
>>744685327Granblue Fantasy Relink's expansion does this and it's amazing, even if it IS a dps loss
autistic faggots arguing about UE5 kindly gtfo.we're discussing what IPs we want to see as musous and how they would work.
>>744686348Because the Capcom route of lazy cashgrab collections for faggots that are too lazy to emulate is the better option, right. Same coin, different side, dipshit.
>>744686356Xeno after Saga is too gay to consider
fuck, imagine an alien vs predator musou.Colonial marines; mooks are fodder marines, officers are charactersxenomorphs; mooks are warriors, officers are specialists, queens etcpredators; mooks are young untested predators, officers are experienced hunterkillers.
>>744686504>is the better option, rightrightbecause like I said >those versions also lack assets of DW4 Hyper and DW5 Special which are incomplete since they either lack localizations or XL, SW2 HD is also Jap only to this daythey could also add online like capcom doesbeats brown UE5 slop with stock fire SFX on musou attacks that causes slowdowns
>>744686702>DW3 with slowdownsYeah sounds faithful to the original to me
>>744686663I'll take it, as long as we get some badass anime marines too
>>744686702They're already going for the low effort cash grab version according to you. What makes you think they wouldn't just port the original disc games as they were straight to PC and call it a day?
I like DW4 a lot, but I wish you didn't always end up locking onto some random grunt when you're trying to combo an officer.
>>744678418No shit sherlock. Everyone knows RotK is fan fiction
Picked this up on the sale, really fucking fun
>>744686827I mean if it's gonna be musou it needs to be extremely OTT as a rule, and very hero-anime coded. fuck photoreal desertslop. garish colour and anime hairstyles everywhere.
>>744680656I saw someone call Musou's a plate spinning game and it's oddly accurate
>>744686964there's fan fiction and then there's absolute cope, kek.Romance is pure chink cope.>muh massive armiesyeah, of starving chinks.
big guy 4 u musou when?
Cyberpunk EdgerunnersRatchet and Clank.hackMy Hero AcademiaTouhou, or really any shmup
>>744686798>it was ass in this aspect, don't fix it just add brown UE5 shit particle haze out the stock package >also add the DWO nigger >>744686936yes that'd be better than brown soulless UE5 demake slop rape with stock fire SFX on musou attacks that causes slowdowns
>>744686513I disagree completely. Every xeno game is good.
>>744686936Just stop talking to him. He's a retard and just pointlessly spamming buzzwords he doesn't understand, which is why his arguments are all contradicting each other. He's probably a 15 year old ESL that based his entire personality around shitposters he sees here and thinks he's the coolest kid alive.
>>744687051yeah I can see that, taking over a base then losing it when you go take over the next one kek. for me it's me babysitting an army of retards who'd all die without me lol.>defeat condition>liu bei is defeatednigga that sounds like a liu bei problem I'm just out here taking over bases.defeat shouldn't be some historic chink general failing to death, I'm not playing for the history lesson, I want to conquer all the bases.thank fuck in DW8XL's free mode you can assign bodyguards to bases who'll stay and defend them
>>744687256You are free to be wrong
>>744687134>ratchet and clankholy shit kino suggestion.
>>744687297I dont care if I'm wrong. I like what I like and want what I want.
>>744687134>Ratchet and Clank game>every character on the roster is just Ratchet with a different gun
>>744683576Yes it is. It tends to be one protagonist and one antagonist from the mainlines, with a few exceptions. >>744683659Yea Square's biggest problem is they're trend chasing retards. They made NT 3v3 to chase esports for example. Instead of giving fans what they actually wanted.>>7446837063 years? Try 1 lmao
>>744684061Shut up psued
>>744687010It's not a "play for 12 hours straight on my day off" game like other warriors games are, but I do enjoy it. I'll do one run until I get defeated, then not play it again for a few days, then I'll pick it up again, spend all my blue coins on more characters to increase my stats, then play again, getting a bit further. I can beat the last boss's first form now but his second form utterly rapes me kek
>>744684061NG2B is pretty great though so I'd be fine if DW3R is of comparable quality
>>744687520For me I got completely addicted to it so I'm on Traversal 6 already, haven't been able to complete that one though as its much harder than Traversal 5.
>>744679615I meant huge vertically but yeah. I hope they add Gerd
>>744687103You do realise 90% of history, especially about wars, is all coped up bullshit right? No one cares
>>744687609traversal? is that defeating the last boss then starting again and it scales up?
>>744687290I explicitly remember forcing my sister to play my underleved Lu Xun in one of the Nanman Campaigns in 4 just so she could run away from enemies cause that fucker kept dieing lol
>>744687262none of them are buzzwords this game is objectively a brown UE5 slop with stock fire SFX on musou attacks that causes slowdowns, like Oblivion Remastered, MGS Delta, Halo Combat Evolved and Ninja Gaiden 2 Black >>744684634they could've done what Team Ninja already did with Ninja Gaiden Master Collection (sigma unfortunately but still better than demaking all 3) but then also additionally have a disgusting brown UE5 demake slop like Ninja Gaiden 2 Black for puke licking dogs like >>744687552
>Final Fantasy Warriors>But instead of the established past characters like in Dissidia, you get to create a character and the movesets are tied to Jobs you can choose from
>>744687418I mean, you can make OC's, it's an original story. The important thing is that the premise lines up. Not every story slots in well with exaggerated villains and hoards of minions.
>>744687747Yeah, when you defeat the last boss you can move on to the next level of difficulty, so when you defeat it you can go to traversal 2.You get more rewards but it gets harder of course. Although it took me quite a few tries to finish Traversal 1, but after that I could go and complete 2-4 on my first try, but then 5 was a bit harder than previous ones and 6 is way harder.
Are there any warriors games that are worth getting on the ps vita or PSP? There are plenty of them available, but I'm not sure how many of them (maybe all?) are just "version from the PS3/PS4 but heavily downgraded"
>>744687826Why not both? You need that character recognition
>>744678418>>744687103>>744688105Kill yourself.
>>744688085Games have limited dev times and budgets, you focus one thing or the other.>Why can't they just have turn based AND action combat??Don't be dumb
>Nice a DW thread>nothing but shit flinging for some reason. Over a franchise like this of all thingsWhat is with you schizos
>>744687867holy shit I assumed you'd beat the boss' 2nd form and be done lmao. I need to get back into that. who's your main?I got my furthest with the Ninja Gaiden guy, but Gan Ning took me far too. Rachel seems good too but that's also the coomer talking.do have all the DLCs or did you get that far without needing them?
>>744688076I played both PSP ones emulated and had a decent time. my chromebook struggled with the PSP emulator a bit so I dropped it, I have a mlre powerful one now so I might try again
>>744688163he meant have existing characters AND a character customising feature anon. which would improve he vast majority of musou games.
>>744688229thanks anon, I've tried over and over again to salvage this thread, what is it with 4chan and just being needlessly hostile all the time. go hug your dog or something, fuck
>>744688398It really doesn't. Character creators have made every game that added them worse objectively.
>>744688267>who's your main?I'm trying out a different character each run, I pick the ones with the blue flame icon since you get more of that currency then which I think will be important to power up my characters for completing traversal 6.Mature Yukimura Sanada and Ryu Hayabusa are extremely powerful. Those two are the most powerful I've played.I got a really good run with Rachel which made her seem very powerful once you get her fully upgraded combo strings working.Other powerful characters that are really good that I've tried are Zhang Fei, Nobunaga and Honda Tadakatsu.I got all the Origins content DLC after I completed Traversal 5 I think, It adds a couple more characters and a new mode to play. I tried Ziluan from Origins and he is extremely powerful too.
>>744688696>my opinion>objectively
>>744688837It's a fact.
>>744682341Huh it actually looks good from gameplay side
>>744684914Ssshhhh, nobody tell newfag what the originals looked like
>>744686663Could make for cool asymmetric experience where practically every predator is a weak sub officer and xenomorphs get to dig out map shortcuts too
I put the most time into 4XL and Hyrule Warriors, what other ones should i check out? Tried a bit of 5, but didn't like xtreme mode in it.
>>744688872that's not how objective facts work.I enjoy character creators.that's my opinion and my experience.should there be pregens for people who don't want to create a character?yes.should there be the option to create an OC? also.some people are creative and want to self-insert in their vidya, anon, even if it's to the detriment of their character's abilities. I equip all characters in DW8 with bladed weapons, even if they have a low compatibility with them, because I like swords. it might take me an extra couple of combos to kill an officer but I was having fun doing it because I was using a sword.if I equipped gan ning with his flail thing which I don't like, then I'd have had a far more optimum build, but had less fun.others want to optimise and metagame for maximum results.both are fine.I don't want someone else's autism dictating how I choose to enjoy my leisure time.
>>744688908Yea, those videos convinced me on the gameplay part. Honestly fucking based.
Is the first Samurai Warriors good?
>>744689171You didn't play the base games?You know XL is just an expansion, right?
>>744689202>tranny rambling continues
Thoughts on bodyguard mechanics? do you prefer a small 1-3 squad something more medium sized or a small army like in Bladestorm?
>>744689136>xenomorphs get to dig out map shortcuts tooi like his idea. or even if modifying the maps is too much for the engine, have shortcuts like ducts that only xenos can use.
>>744689262I know that now, but as a kid 4XL was all my cousin had, figured it was an upgraded release for the longest time.What's up with the Empires games?
>>744689326I'd personally prefer a small army to follow me. I don't like splitting off from the main force to solo sections because i want to feel like I'm on a battlefield but the game often forces you to fight through sections alone.the 3 bodyguards in DW8XL are better than nothing but if I had like 30 grunts with me it'd feel far more like a battle.
>>744689330Let Predators turn invisible for short periods of time to get a break from the hordes if they need to fall backMarines exclusively get Bodyguards and you play in packs of 5I think we're onto something here
>>744689456Empires games really should have just been a side mode in the main games. There is never enough meat to justify it being sold separate imo.They are tactics-oriented spinoffs where you get to take over China and put whoever in your army. There is no real story, no real progression
>>744689489>invisibility mechanic for predatorsholy kino.how about queen-units spawn eggs that quickly hatch facehuggers that turn enemy mobs into xenomorphs, but there is a few seconds where the friendly fire mechanic is switched off on infected allies so you can kill them before they spawn a xeno?marine musous are definitely orbital bombardments
>>744688163As>>744688398Said, I meant characters. Otherwise your idea sucks ass
Star Wars would make a great Musou, as long as they didn't just use it to shill Disneywars exclusively
>>744690134absolutely, earlier on I mentioned that the battlefront games are fun, but a musou game would make FAR more sense for SW.A clone wars musou would be insanely fun.
>>744689325Empires has existed far longer than the trannies that live rent free in your head. Come the fuck on.
>>744655414I used to like those Naruto Fighting games too. Which has led to a fun thing with my anime friends, which is I know only exactly what is told to me in the video games. Which turns out to be a lot, but in a weird order and way that means I don't know very basic stuff.
>>744691271Keiji got such a glow-up in 4
>>744654359I'll keep saying. Instead of another arena fighter like Jump Force, they should get Koei to make a Jump Musou. A game with all favorite characters from Jump. You already have the models from One Piece so just take a few characters from there. Then create models for characters from different series. Give each series their own unique mechanic. Have an Orochi style story. And you're gonna have a seller.
>>744678418>chink history le fake and gay m-muh epic viking warri-Most amerimutted post this week, Christ.Since you're into historical power gaps here's a fun trivia for you: the Han dynasty over which the Three Kingdoms fought over actually fought and defeated the Xiongnu, conquering their land and banishing the remnants out of the region. Do you want to know where the Xiongnu went? They went west, landed in Europe and raped Rome into nonexistence. Forever. A northern nuisance to Han dynasty was strong enough to erase the greatest European empire, never to be unified ever again.Also rice cultivation exploded during Song. Han and Tang were wheat/barley societies.
>>744689260Hell yes.
>>744691540So basically they lost in high mmr and started smurfing
decided to give hyrule warriors another shot, didn't like it before because I thought bosses were tedious (I didn't know or I skipped over the tutorial teaching me to use my magic meter to force knockdowns against bosses) and going in with that info beforehand has improved my experience alot. my new big gripe is that I think Lana's visual design is bad and not very zelda like. Love the lightning book moveset though
>>744691796They changed servers to EUW.
What makes DW3 so special that that's the one that they wanted to remake. Should I try it out?>t.got into the series with OriginsDespite it being the biggest criticism of the game I'm somewhat hesitant to get into other DW games because they DON'T have a set defined protagonist. I like the idea of using other characters but not having a single protagonist sounds to me like they would also lose that feeling of consistent progression with leveling up by using different weapons to gradually make your MC stronger and the story wouldn't feel as good since the shifting perspective would just leave everything feeling all over the place and lacking in pacing and structure. But it's a hard concern to have when the thing I liked in Origins is precisely why everyone here seemed to hate it.
>>744692130It's not a shifting perspective, you pick a character and go through the story mode with them. When you are done, you can use the same character on higher difficulties, or pick another character and go through their story mode next. You unlock stages in Free Mode where you can use any character in any battle.
>>744692130>What makes DW3 so special that that's the one that they wanted to remake. Effectively started the series. 2 was still rough and very prototype-like. XL also has the best bodyguards system>Should I try it out?Yea. Grab a merged ISO(or do it yourself if you want) along with the code to automatically load Original. There's also a series of patches you can get from micheal musou discord
3R is the only upcoming game I'm hyped for
>>744692656Same.And I'm going to do the Very Hard jap challenges again.
>>744692459>merged ISOnta, but elaborate pls
>>744692787You can create a single XL ISO that includes the original. This allows you to load it without needing to disk swap.
>>744692656>tfw his greatsword moveset feels harder hitting and more authentic than Guts in Berserk Musou 25 years later
>>744654359I always wanted a warhammer fantasy musou>>744655123this too
D&D musou would be great especially if you got to create your hero like the tabletop. I just want more musou games with CaW, it makes me want to make my own
>no King Arthur musou>no Fire Emblem Tellius musou>no Greek mythology musou
>>744692787https://mega.nz/folder/x3xUgAwR#YzWG94u6B3Kk6xLuXiSQ5w
>>744654359Senran Kagura made by Koei Tecmo would be peak.
>>744693648>no Greek mythology musouthere is a Troy one but it was pretty shit tbdesu.the combat was great but it only had story mode. when you replayed previous missions you couldn't change character so if you liked playing as achilles etc you had to play achilles' missions which is some bullshit for a musou game. I didn't even finish it before I traded it in, that pissed me off so much.
>>744693684your a real one
Meat buns for all women
>>744693648Just make a decent Fate one and you have 1 and 3
>>744687609i have hidden traversal 6 done on about an 8th of the cast currently, the key is genuinely focusing hard on synergies. here are some really good pickups>any of the characters who give a 100% attack boost to an elementso young yukimura, ginchiyo tachibana, cao pi, ma chao and gan ning>big aoe summon abilitieslu bu, any support that uses the arcing blade move like katsuie shibata, ziluan is absurdly broken if you have the dlc>armor penetration skill is super good until you do traversal 6 where its less good>assemble builds are broken as shit, charm is the best emblem in the game>red hare and matsukaze are also broken as shit
>>744694498Fate is garbage, get some fucking taste you cretin
>>744654359Why are these games so expensive?I checked Koei Tecmo's other games, and they usually get a bit of a price cut. But these "Warrior" games are usually a lot more expensive than their other games, and some sits around $69,99 in some cases.
>>744694984they are some of the highest value vidya purchases (also koei knows that musou fans will buy every musou they put out)
>>744694984They're all on sale right now thoughSpirit of Sanada is only $20, that's a deal
>>744689456Empires segments the map of china and you basically play out conquering the land. You hire officers and assign them to different regions while you defend or invade
>>744695052I've only played a couple of them, and while I enjoyed them to a certain extent, I wouldn't say they're amazing games. I guess they're a lot more popular than I've realized.>>744695197Yeah, I checked it out just now due to this thread. It's still a bit expensive for a 2017 game though, and I'm not a die-hard fan of Musou type of games. I'll look around some more, thanks!
>>744694983Get his ass
Have any of you played Disgaea Mayhem? How is it? I know the demo felt like a student project.
>>744695949>I know the demo felt like a student project.Then you already know how it is
>>744694984The K in Koei stands for Kikes
Which is the 3 SW4 games is the best value? It's a little confusing.
>>744654359I want a western Musou so bad, like two of them. One for Bronze Age heroes like hercules and Achilles and one for Medieval such as El Cid and William Wallace. Yes I know they did do a Joan of Arc game but that was shit.
>>744696847Get the base game. XL is only worth it if you have base game, it's a expansion pack on a disk. Empires really only has the one mode.
>>744654359I want more empires versions. Or maybe CaC with non asian options
>>744696912They did the Achilles musou bro
>>744658512Looks kino, never played
>>744662796Bullet Girls is a thing
>>744671301Samurai warriors 2Samurai wariros 4 empires
>>744677398
>>744697151I know, because he cameos in Orochi, but never played it. Assumed it was shit since it never got a sequel.
>>744697301But not a good thing
>>744697440Which is a good thing because that leaves room for improvement
>>744677398I kneel
>>744677886I agree, I pirated Basara Utage years ago and had a lot of fun with it, shame they never brought it over since it fixed a lot of things and made nearly every NPC playable
>>744680734I do, have my old 360 copy somewhere in storage, it was kind of a "musou" but the movement speed was way too slow and the lack of mounts made battles take way longer than they needed to
The first Hyrule Warriors was so damn good. Getting 100% of the game took hundreds of hours. Tons of characters.>>744656171True. How the fuck have they never made a Warhammer musou?
>>744699084Because nobody wants to touch Western DEI infested garbage
>>744699165rent free is an understatement, you've given them the deed to the damn house
xenoblade and final fantasy musou is a no brainer. they should do a dissidia musou, but not mobile slop. sucks they fumbled the disgaea musou
>>744682341>>744682646Best Wu
>>744699253You asked and I gave you the answer. You not liking it doesn't change it.
>>744654359check out "serious sam"
>>744684070>>744684259>>744684614Dragon Ball almost got picked according to Kouji Nakajima, but they went with One Piece. Going by DW, they'd have done OG Dragon Ball justice. I would have mained Yajirobe in a heartbeat.
>>744699950For me, it's Yamcha
>>744654359I don't like these games because the enemy soldiers never attack you and just stand there and your allies are incapable of doing anything productive and you gotta capture and babysit everything yourself, boring shit
Give me Hellsing! Why hasn't it been done yet?
one piece pirate warriors 4 and samurai warriors 5 are both great beat em ups that I go back to from time to time. I tried one of those warrior crossover games and didn’t fuck with it, and sorta liked that new dynasty warriors game where you just play as one dude who switches weapons. would fucking love them to get more active with the scene though, whole lotta nothing on the horizon.
>>744701842You're playing the wrong one, on the wrong mode.
>>744703828>doesn't provide an example on which one to playok broomer
Posting this again.>Main eight a la Mario Kart 64>Secondary guys for game with bigger rosters>Third row for fan favorites>Fourth row is villains>Last row for oddballs/miscAdded Peasley and Q.Bean, a Mario Musou could be one of the best things ever created or one of the most boring collabs ever done.
>>744703956Like half of this 300 reply thread tells you exactly which ones to play, retard.
I am enjoyingWo4U
>>744704171Tired of nintendodults shitting up everything
>>744704265>still cannot pick oneok so you concede that this series is trash, got it
>>744704513Lol not my job to spoonfeed you, nig. Good riddance.
>>744703956DW3,4 or 5. Games got easier as they went on. Older games you would struggle getting past the front line of peons without getting gang banged
>>744654359i'm actually sick that there's no DBZ musou, and that the only Naruto musou is stuck on the PSP.
>>744704336Hush, a Mario Musou could be fun.
>>744705209Wait, there's a naruto musou??
>>744705312yeah! it's called Ultimate Ninja Impact. it's just a little rudimentary because it's a PSP game.
>>744683903This is my wforce shelf
>>744686231works on my machine ;^)
>>744654359If EVER there was a genre i would have thought would have been perfect for AI development, it would have been this genre.Just imagine how large armies on screen could be with AI technology boosting their asset limits on-screen even further than before.
>>744659157Looks too gay.
>>744687014bring back the 90s toyline characters
Where the fuck is my Orochi Empire, koei tecmo you fucking HACK
>>744655123>Illidan has never been in an action game except maybe HotsIt doesn't feel real.
More history-based musou games would be cool. I’d be down for one based on the Crusades, but that would require Koei to not kowtow to the whims of self-hating Western publishers, so…
I wish they could make the SRW equivalent of Musou.Just one game that had EVERYTHING Omega Force has ever worked, yes even the fucking gundams.
How's samurai warriors 5?
>>744654359Convince me not to get warriors all stars even though I know it's shit.I was considering abyss since I like those games but the dlc is fucking costly even on sale.
>>744705923This version of the game was so good
>>744711294Abyss has a large amount of content even without the DLC. The DLC doesn't add that much really in comparison to how much was added to the game in free updates.There's a lot of costumes to buy, but the only actual meaningful content it adds is a couple of characters from Origins and a new game mode.
>>744699441Hell yeah brother.All those new sluts, and still none of them is cuter than Xiaoqiao and her sister. Shame they get fuck all in terms of stages or scenes about them. Unless DW3 remaster changes anything, she will be in 1(one) small map, Youting. One you may see a lot because it's a great grinding spot
warhammer 40k musou where you play as either named muhreens, xeno or chaos or straight up primarchs
>>744681017>>744681279These posts make me wish for a total genocide of those below 100 IQ.
>>744677630You didn't like SW5? Real answer is there's too many assets to update, especially character models. For DW they'll get around to it with smaller releases like Origins and DW3R so they can gradually update characters. I don't think SW will have such luck, especially if Warriors Orochi is dead.
>>7447006806 might actually be the only core game that would really benefit from a good remaster to redeem it
>>744712283many IPs sound like a great idea, but musou games sell the best in asia and I suspect koei thinks those IPs would not do well there. they're comfortably sticking to licensing reliable shit.
>>744666741>duck peopleI WISH
>>744673360>no N3: Ninety-Nine Nights
>>744711636I guess I'll just snag the base game and if I like it I'll get the origins shit.
>>744704171I said earlier, I don't want musou becoming a nintendo thing.I do not want a fucking bingwahoo musou for reddit adults to sóyface over on their switch 2s while they wait for their wife to come back from her date with leftover pizza for him.
>>744712245>YoutingSpeaking of that...>Xiaoqiao starts at default 4 stars, and has a sub-general with her, she only has to defeat one generic for the plan to work >Daqiao starts at 3 stars for some reason, has to fight Zhang He and his sub-general>On Hard/Very Hard, that means there's a 3 stars unit fighting a 6 stars one literally 30 seconds in(and will probably die in the next minute)What did they mean by this? Feels like the stage is designed around always being on the east side, or having to play Daqiao yourself
>>744713168Who hurt you?
>>744654359Half of the shit youre talking about is westslop that woulf never get games made im japan nowadays. Final fantasy warriors would be kino, the dragon quest ones are pretty great.
God I wish this PC port wasn't total shiithouseCan some anons recommend good Musou games on PC? I am pretty new to it and only really played pic years and years ago, and DW Origins
>>744714165>good Musou games on PCPCSX2
>>744714165most of the ports are pretty scuffed. DW7+8 work ok for me, as does Orochi 3. Orochi 4 and SW4DX work great.Everything else is has that classic japanese PC port jank
>>744714165>picBased, I feel like euro lore has plenty of Musou potential, even if the game itself was kinda shit. I remember running around taking castle from the French and having a good time.
Whats the most fun empires game? Last one I've touched was DW 5 and 8
>>744682510Guilty Gear 2 was genuinely too ahead of its time
>>744715431It's hardly indicative of the rest of the genre but I really liked Age of Calamity.
>>744705923it doesn't have XL
>>744654359 As a devfag: assuming I planned my shitty-ass 3D action RPG to have one or two hidden levels that are intended to be Musou-style for shit and giggles, what would be the biggest "do and don't" to make it vaguely acceptable to Musou fans?
>>744654359Tears of metal
>>744705992It's... Not the same technology.
>>744717632I see, the goalposts have ceased to exist.
>>744718562I mean... asking an LLM to fix your code's dogshit performance is pretty much one of it's best use-case.>LLMs aren't that goodCompared to what's shat out by most game studio's india/south asia subcontractors, it will be a 6 millions % framerate improvement - meaning plenty of margin to put more dudes on the battlefield.
Here you go sir
>>744718889Kino
sorry but rance musou mogs every other idea from this thread and the last and if you don't agree you haven't played rance
>>744718889Does Fate/Samurai Remnant count or is it not musou enough?
>>744719542Not musou enough. And it's just a bad game in general on top of being cringe fate garbage.
>>744718782Koei Tecmo already got hoards of enemies running well since the PS2. To the point where you can emulate the whole console and still have ample performance to spare. I don't see the vision here.>haha you guys hate outsourcingKoei Tecmo is a Japanese company that was doing this longer than you were alive.
>>744720178I don't know about running well since old musous had slowdowns with less than 30 guys on screen.
>all these so called “great men” like Guan Yu are dead as of 2026KEK
>>744720274Like, on a PlayStation 2 or PSP?Homie we're in 2026, that would be considered John Carmack optimization. We are not CPU bound in musou games unless the devs are smoking crack. I'd venture a guess and say any modern musou game with performance issues is a GPU batching thing or lack thereof.And you don't need GPT hallucinations to come to that conclusion, and sure as hell shouldn't in the most performance sensitive part of your game. Optimizing musou games is not secret underground knowledge, I literally just asked a Japanese dev and he told me how it would be properly optimized, albeit inconvenient in modern engines.
>>744720546On PS2. > I literally just asked a Japanese dev and he told me how it would be properly optimized, albeit inconvenient in modern engines.My uncle works at Koei and he told me we are getting DW4 Hyper ported next year.
>>744654359I'm bummed Nintendo stopped at Zelda and FE musous. We could've had some real fun shit if they kept going.>Star Warriors (Kirby)>Banana Warriors(DK)>Splat Warriors(Splatoon)Not to mention non tendie stuff that could be cool.>Sonic Warriors>Mega Man Warriors>Key Warriors(KH)
>>744718745see >>744685513>those versions also lack assets of DW4 Hyper and DW5 Special which are incomplete since they either lack localizations or XLkill yourself
>>744719542>No killing, Saber.>*Unleash musou attack*Iori has got to be one of my top 3 unhinged male protagonist.
>>744719542It counts, it's just ass.
Why do I have to wait for the Empires versions to have a CaW mode?
>>744720546>30 guys on screen>on a PlayStation 2 >that would be considered John Carmack optimizationNigga, Dragon Force on PS*1* beat that largely. It's only a matter of not insisting on having every LOD level be 3D.>dragon force is 2DWelcome to LOD. Everything 2D if you need it and the camera isn't glued to it.
>>744699084gw continually hands out their ip to some of the most repugnant of retards so i think it boils down to the japs needing to take the first step in asking for permissionthough i dont know if omega force or koei would consent to having gw be the final say for every little design decision
>>744721142>Nigga, Dragon Force on PS*1* beat that largelyNot my point, I'm saying a badly optimized PS2 game would be considered beautifully optimized under today's standards because our CPUs are literally decades more advanced.>>744720650>My uncle works at Koei I didn't say he worked at Koei, I'm saying even he could tell me how musou games "should" be optimized vs what is actually done in practice. Optimizing this genre is not underground knowledge which is my point.Using GPT to generate performance sensitive code or ask it for consultation when what to do is public knowledge (people just largely don't care) is goofy.
>>744711294Yeah, I was pretty hype and bought on release cause of Arnice and Touka. Game wasn't that good, levels capped at 20 so you couldn't make super OP characters like in others and your strength was tied to a "bravery" mechanic and not solely based on your current level, which was also dumb.
>>744713168reddit doesn't play musou games anyway, so if they did do it, it's only because of Nintendo, not genuine interest in the genre cause they're all poser faggots.
>>744692338How long is the story? Can characters only use their default weapon? What's progression like?
>>744713696>Final fantasy warriors would be kinoHell yeah it would, I'd jump on that day 1 if it ever happens, especially if it's a crossover game like the first Hyrule Warriors was.
>>744717561>I really liked Age of CalamityMe too, had so much fun with it and kicking ass as buff babe Urbosa was fun as fuck too
What should be the next time and place to do a new series of Warriors after China Dynasty and Japan samurai ?
>>744725325You're stuck in 3K and Sengoku forever
I would like to see Dynasty Warriors do Crossover with one piece afterwards everyone's going to have to forget what the encounter but it would be cool an I bet we can have some funny interactions between people from the two franchises.
Re-uploaded the combined DW3XL pnatch file, for people who want the mods but don't want to join a Discord. and for a future /eagg/ pastebin, I guess.Extract inside pcsx2 folder, then go to settings->game properties->patcheshttps://files.catbox.moe/qcsp1a.7z
>>744718889How many troops are we talking about here
>>744654359Or don't because they're trash. As a die hard zelda fan who loves a good grind, even playable princess ruto isn't enough for me to sit through this deck.
It would be obvious for wforce to do a Xenoblade Warriors with the next Xenoblade coming next year
>>744664947Peach Beach Splash, pretty fun game from what I remember.
>>744677398This anon is a true warrior of the three kingdoms
>>744677398What's your top 3?
>>744718889i should emulate this. i never finished it as a kid but this game has always occupied permanent space in my brain for some reason.
>>744725325Spain's Reconquista, and the French parts of it (Charles Martel, Song of Roland, etc).Plenty of historical figures, Durandal as center piece mythical weapon.
>>744726381Why would KT make euroslop? >>744651169
Thought only allied officers engaged with against a certain enemy unit could get morale boosts when you defeat an enemy officer (not including your own unit, of course), but I just randomly had one happening right the start of the map, to an ally who was on the other side.
>>744722196Story is like 4-8 stages each characterCharacters each have a unique weapon/moveset just for them.Progression is enemy generals drop stat increasing items and weapons with random stats and attributes. The higher the difficulty, the better the drops. Every character also has an "ultimate" weapon you unlock through special conditions on certain stages, and there are special items you get the same way.
>>744654359I know it would be dogshit if it actually got made but I always thought that the Arthurian legends would make for a great setting for a western musou with how over the top DW is. I know most people usually say things like Ancient Greek myth and yea that'd be cool too but I feel like Arthurian stuff could be kino and I can't think of any videogame that's actually tried to heavily explore it.Large amount of characters to use, good amount of myths and mysteries, classic stories and tragedies to use, good amount of freedom to still make your own characters, can use supernatural elements like magic, other factions like the romans and gauls, many iconic elements like the holy grial, excalibur, knights of the round table etcYou could either keep it more like DW setting wise where things feel more grounded or go more supernatural like Orochi and include shit like dragons and giants. Music could be power metal, idk I feel like there's some great potential there.
>>744725652>As a die hard zelda fanOpinion discarded lmao
>>744726964Forgot to add:Game is 3XL
>>744727027I wouldn't trust anyone outside of Koei to do it any justice. They seem to be the only ones who can do "cool" historical exaggeration without insulting the source.
>>744687134>Ratchet and ClankHow would this actually work? Like a mix of Deadlocked and R&C3's multiplayer maps but with a fuck ton of enemies?I feel like you'd need to somewhat go in that direction to have things like base captures, and maybe focus on things like ammo and weapon management to deal with a bunch of enemy types but I'm not sure how you could translate things like officers or morale mechanics or make something new to replace them that's interesting and fun
>>744658752>monkey paw>english version is called glitter force warriorsjust give me suite and smile, maybe doki
After reading RoT it's tough to not wish DW was more like it
Does anyone else find it weird that, in real life, Cao Ren essentially took the idea of making someone irresponsible a hall monitor to teach them responsibility, but did it on a much larger scale—and it actually worked?
>>744726983Cool. Thanks anon. Guess you do the story for each character while you figure out which ones are your favorites and invest in them further
>>744727520ExactlyYou might find you really like playing as a character you might not have guessed from their looks, because their moveset is fun
>>744727486>mfw Lu Bu's deathGenuinely made me rethink the depiction of Lu Bu in pop culture. RoT has tons of BS, but it also has a lot valid points about what define virtues of men.
I wish they'd do another Dragon Quest Heroes someday
>>744655123this would be insanely cool as long as its confined to warcraft 3 to wotlk era warcraft. would love to whirlwind a bunch of goons as this guy
>>744654359I wish there was a musou game that was like vampire survivors or megabonk. I think it would work really well.>inb4 warriors abyss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMg0UVMv1cA>as Zhuge LiangJap players are scary
>>744727656Genuinely the greatest Lu Bu depiction of all time
>>744727868Genuinely, isn't that Warriors Abyss?
>>744727936I tried warriors abyss and it just wasn't fun. Constant yapping interrupting the gameplay, too short/small stages, overly repetitive enemy spawn patterns, not very many enemies on the screen, no pick 1 of 3.It just kinda missed the point of that kind of game.
>>744707228a hack and slash action adventure game like ninja gaiden with illidan would be fucking sick
>>744728278I don't understand why blizzard didn't explore more of the story stuff in spin off games, instead of cramming it into the MMO.>WoW hack and slash adventure game>WoW open world RPG>more RTS gamesand so on
So the only upcoming games are the dw3 remake and probably an Origins follow up?
>>744728213Oh, you must be the anon complained about WA yesterday. The first few hours of the game is pretty rough, yeah. But once you unlock a dozen of characters to be able to actually make some decent builds, most of your complaints should be resolved (except the small stage)
>>744728464because Big Bobby has controlled and raped the IP so hard once he discovered the power whale pandering and gacha monetization. They milk the fuck out of WoW for the 5000 whale retards that play that game still. its such a beyond raped franchise at this point with its retarded lore and story that making an actual spinoff today would suck, unfortunately. as lame as many would think this sounds, i think a third person soulslike single player action RPG set in the warcraft universe where you play as a generic race character. would've been so cool.
>>744728464>>744728702actually imagine how cool a game where you play as rexxar roaming alone in the wilderness fighting shit.
>>744728516So farKoei doesn't tend to announce anything until it's almost ready to release, usually a 6 month lead up and usually at a game show
>>744654359>Final Fight: Metro City Musou>TMNT>Power Rangers >Transformers
>>744728967>millennial manchild starter pack
>>744728951Also keep in mind that they already announced tons of stuff this year>DW3R>DOA7>Nioh 3 DLC>ROTK14 Complete Edition>NA: Hishou>Wo Long 2>that new Atelier with the fat girlWe probably will get at least one more announcement come TGS, but I'm fine with everything we're getting this year and early next year already.
>>744729145I'm not interested in their non-musou games though.
Who would you main Raccoon City Musou?
>>744727882>25 mins>walking around the Wu camp at like 5% healthVery scary indeed. There are respawning archers there
>>744654359Musou games are just shit tier button smashers
>>744654359Only if it's based on DW2-DW4 era musou where being surrounded by common goons is generally a bad idea.Nu-Musou kinda sucks.
>>744729250Play DW3>>744729315And you wait for the 3 remaster
>>744729192Firearms based franchises don't really work, especially one where nobody has a unique "signature" weapon
>>744699441My beautiful musou wife
Better Men Musou
>>744729145While not an official announcement yet, Sho all but confirmed in an interview earlier this year that Origins will be a trilogy ending at Wu Zhang Plains. He said it around the time of the DLC launch I think.So Omega Force are probably well into the production of the Origins second part right now as their main game with a smaller crew handling DW3R.
>>744729825They seem to be using the Remasters to give us the huge roster DW we want, while also going with Origins to try all the cool new stuff they want to do gameplay and storywise that they wouldn't be able to if they had to account for 80 playable characters again.It's really a brilliant solution to the DW dilemma
Dragonball doesn't really do mooks. Toriyama really got into just doing a series of 1v1s and very little teamwork after the Saiyan saga. 40k Musou would be great. For an oddball suggestion, Zone of the Enders. They give you a small taste of it with ZoE 2 with the mass battle map where you're running around taking out high priority threats, assisting allies, etc.
>>744727882Watched the Xiaoqiao version from the same guy too>5th weapon instead of 4th when she has death element>lets fire attack happenWhat is even this route. And why did it work
>>744729974DW3 is not roster bloat. It's the bare minimum. Also it's ugly slop that's not getting my money. >Origins >cool storywiseIt was niggershit actually.
>>744730641>waah waah!who the fuck asked
>>744730701devsbecause they're binning Ziluantranny for DW10
>>744686945There are remove lockon patches for both ps2 and pc versions
>>744730790*DW3 now also stars Ziluan*DW10 AKA Origins 2*Also starring Ziluanuh huh
>>744688076The psp ones are pretty dope called vol 1 and vol 2. They are pretty good portable experiences. You move your army on the map and fight in occupied areas. Vol 1 uses dw4 as a base and vol2 uses dw5. Dw4 also has sort of a roguelite progression where you fast level up during each battle and then reset once the battle is done
>>744682081>was going to call this bullshit>look it up>it's fucking realWho's going to time travel back to 3K era and kick Cao Cao's father in the balls in order to stop League of Legends from happening?
>>744730904>*DW3demake slop for bilibili crowd*just shell over for yearly fiscal, yellow goy >Also starringthey already said he won't be the MCtricking people with an unfinished slop can't be done twice screencap this: DW10 will have playable OG roster while ziluan gets benched (also you'll get cancer and die)
Anyone played the dusk diver games? They sort play like musous, right? Anyone can vouch for them?
>>744682646>If that's NormalBattle of Jie ting is a 7 stars mission. AI will be very aggressive regardless.
>>744731210I only played the first one, it's meh. Apparently the second one is much better gameplay wise
what are the best musous nowadays?still DW8, SW4 and WO3?
>>744731443Yeah pretty much. Origins is really good gameplay wise but you only play as John Musou
>>744731443DW Origins is the best, far and away.
>>744728213oh dude all of your problems get fixed real quick, it gets much more difficult and you get much more build variety as you unlock characters
>>744685719DW4 XL and DW5 XL in particular don't even need merged .iso. Koei just removed the musou mode and free mode from the main menu and call it a day.Use a code that bring those menu back.
>>744731443If you like DW8 and SW4 you should also like WO4 because it plays like them.WO3 uses DW7 and SW3 systems.DWO is worth a pirate for a single playthrough and nothing else.
>>744731443Wo4 is the best and most fun gameplay of all the dw8 engine games. It just has no content compared to older games
if DW8:Empires just had better roleplaying and better ai it would be the best musou game ever made
>>744689260The XL expansion is mandatory unless you want to be cucked from further stat boost just because you rank up too fast.The enemy AI is the same as DW4, good luck not getting stunlocked by mooks to death.
>>744730641Nigga that's a whole new sentence.You are the one calling DW3 "roster bloat" out of nowhere. Nobody said anything remotely approaching that.
>>744654359>Musou Warriors vidya are pretty much all I playThere's NO man on planet earth who said that. No one can only play non-stop musou and nothing else.
>>744732216i only play musou, fighting games and roguelikes
>>744732216Everybody has their default go to genre.
>>744731809I found it pretty boring. They should take the framework from 9 and expand on it instead.
I'm very tempted to get 9 Empires.I know everyone hates it, but it just looks so pretty.
>>744692130DW3 AI priotize hitting their closest target. You can use either your allies or your bodyguards as a distraction while get a few hits in against enemy generals.DW4 and all future games change the enemy AI to drop everything they are currently doing and chase (You) and (You) only. Your bodyguards and allies are borderline useless at covering you because they can't keep up.
the one thing i dislike about older musou is how annoying it is to get a horse
>>744732654>DW4 and all future games change the enemy AI to drop everything they are currently doing and chase (You) and (You) only.I hated that change, so irritating. Hope they keep the original 3 logic.
>>744732658It's easy, you just knock someone off theirs and steal it
>>744732658Unlock Cao Cao's horse and never worry about that ever again.
>>744654359Drakengard is my favorite musou
>>744733162If only it was actually good
for me its sw2 kawanakajima theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCmBnzeZEb0
>>744725325Koei made a LOT of historical games that cover basically the entire history but I doubt making Hirohito and Adolf Hitler playable characters is a good idea.
>>7447333501's was better1's whole soundtrack was darker and cooler
>>744732216post-childhood I don't really like videogames.musous are the only games I enjoy playing.I have an anbernic with my fave 90s sega games but even then all I play is golden axe, streets of rage and alien storm which are arguably proto-musous.
>>744733350is this the fog map? fuck that one
>>744730441>Dragonball doesn't really do mooksIt doesn't show a lot of mook fights but it is about big hero units who are more than capable of wiping out hundreds if not thousands of normal enemy dudes while also having a lot of potential mooks to fill rostersOne of the more popular moments of the franchise is bardock pushing through the whole frieza force.
>>744733453Says you, this shit would fucking rock.
>>744733615Yeah there is some potential for masses of peon enemies, you just have to allow the game some artistic license to be a game instead of a straight retelling of the story>Random dinosaurs and bandits>Red Ribbon mooks>Red Ribbon robots / androids>King Piccolo offspring>Saibamen zerg rush>Frieza army>Saiyan hordes
>>744732818That's only in DW4 onward.I want Koei to revisit the American Revolution and remake Liberty or Death as a musou instead of strategy.
>>744733850You would never get away with it unless the whole game was some NAACP-written tragedy about slavery
>>744732687>Hope they keep the original 3 logic.They haven't been using that in forever. Not sure the remaster does either.
>>744725782This would be sick, but I don't see it happening
king rhoam in hw aoc is the best musou character ever bro, holy fuck is he fun
>>744733850I can see the headlines now>Koei's Shockingly Insensitive Depiction of First Nations Peoples>Koei's Disgusting Whitewashing of America's Racist Founding>New 'Warriors' Title Glorifies Slaveowners>10 Black Heroes of the Revolution (we just made up) That Koei Just Erased From History
>>744734019The remaster seems to keep a lot of internal systems from 3, it may be a skin over top of the original code.
>>744733917Slavery?George Washington was fighting against the British.
>>744734369>it may be a skin over top of the original code.Big if true. Probably not though>stat scaling might be back uniroincallyWake me up
>>744734385He owned slaves.Therefore, everything else he ever did is moot and everything has to be about that.
>>744732569It looks ugly as fuck, but still better than 8 on PC I guess. Honestly the worst part about it is the reused maps from the open world. For that matter where is my DWO empires game??
>>744733917>"it's because americans worship blacks!"Go back to /pol/.You won't see it because it's too soon, the British are still very relevant, depicting them as savages to be mowed down wouldn't sit well. Compare that to some dynasty that died out 800 AD.
>>744734445>Probably not thoughIt's exactly what they just did for Ninja Gaiden.
>>744734528You can see things like having obviously more guys on screen, wider range and the parry/dodge stuff though. I don't think it's literally the PS2 one
I haven't played dynasty warriors since like the PS2.If I wanted a decent experience today with 32:9 support, 60-120+ fps, on PC, which games would you guys recommend?I've been eying eitherDW8XLCE, WO4, or SW4DXsince they all have ultrawide modsAny thoughts?
>>744734472What kind of rock do you live under where you think ANYone cares how the British are depicted? And pretending that the founding fathers haven't been relentlessly attacked this century from all sides for slavery existing?Did you just get here from fucking Mars?
>>744656648Splatoon Radiers is spiritually closer to a horde shooter like Left4Dead or Darktide, rather than a musou title.>>744658512After the shitshow that was Reborn I dunno if they'll ever do anything else.>combat became floaty and weightless even though they'd basically perfected it in the third game>crossover element was literal mad-libs pull-names-out-of-a-hat bullshit like "Master Asia and Reccoa Londe team up to defeat the evil mercenary Astonaige who is working for the Gingham Fleet for some reason" instead of exploring actual character dynamics like the first two games
>>744734472All those war shooty games exist.
>>744734850When has a game being bad ever stopped them from making another oneAnd when has a game being good ever made them make a sequel
>Order a Dragon Quest musou game>dub it in English and everything>release on every platform>It sells well enough to make another one!>FF has much more international appeal, will obviously outsell DQ>....never license a FF musou
>>744734838>What kind of rock do you live under where you think ANYone cares how the British are depictedI would assume the British, who would have to make up for the lost Japanese sales due to the premise. Not a large controversy, but I can 100% see the oversimplification being parsed as Americans jerking themselves off.>pretending that the founding fathers haven't been relentlessly attacked this century from all sides for slavery existingI didn't make a comment on this. Either way you're making a musou videogame, you can quite literally gloss past it or not mention it. Writers do that all the time and it works. See Dynasty Warriors.>>744734864They can afford to piss off Arabs with a War on Terror plotline because they're a minority of their customer base.
>>744725549wan mirrion
>>744734864>>744735539cont.Also even then, the CoD games have leaned into more specific conspiracies and sideplots than "we need to get sadam hussein". There's how Americans want to depict themselves, as superheroes that get involved in precision operations to make the world a better place. So a tactical operation would be easier to digest then doing a 1000 combo against a hoard of brown people because of their own desired image. CoD works, a musou wouldn't.CoD tries to fanfic its own original sideplots, musous try to overly simplify existing conflict.
>>744735275They probably want billions for their characters
>>744735539There are more Arabs playing games than Brits
>>744732361Are you alternate universe me?
>>744732658This stopped only when Warriors Orochi 1 and 2 came. Gameplay-wise WO2 is the peak of ps2 Musou games anyway
Mortal kombat>But shaloin mon-Mortal kombat>>744727031>He thinks being a musoufag is any differentAction gamefags RULE this board. A single kekio shitco game gets analzied by ninja gaiden black
>>744734260You're entitled to that opinion, I guess. I found him a chore and missing the fucking motorcycle from Age of Calamity. I think my favorite new character was the korok, and that was mostly due to his character and the fact that he could finagle the element system without constant changing equipped items/skills.
>>744734472I mean, they did Bladestorm. The British and the French still existed back in 2007.
>>744738643Holy fuckin' saved
