why didn't armored core catch on the way dark souls did?don't people love cool giant robots?
make robots with beeg mechanical titties, cousin
>>746032138We do love cook giant robots. That's exactly the issue, there were none to be had. They're all generic over designed anime trash. It's the equivalent to belts and zippers on rpg protagonists. Belts and zippers with other nonsense clothing and a weird weapon that doesn't look like a weapon but it's the strongest weapon. THAT generic shit, but for robots
I've always been more of a fan of giant robot chicken style mechs over japanese samurai style ones where they hold the guns with handsand on top of that there's no hot young girl pilots in skin-tight plug suits
>>746032138People are more likely to have a fantasy about being a cool dude than about being a big robot
>>746033051What is this retard babbling about
>>746033523unfortunately this, the average normalfag is a pleb that'd rather play as a generic fantasyman, soldierman or gangsterman than a mech.
>>746032138Post apocalyptic sci fi dystopias are simply less appealing than post apocalyptic dark fantasy dystopias.
i mean it's a success, kind ofIt's literally the only mecha game people know now
AC6 was just DaS with a jetpack shoved up the PC's assand since DaS is a WOAT goyslop cashgrab, AC6 became a WOAT goyslop cashgrab with a jetpack shoved up the PC's ass
>>746037584it was so successful the devs decided to release the same different game twice afterwards
Why did fromslop drop the game like a wet old bag of shit, a game perfectly fit for multiplayer and coop? Would be better than whatever they're doing with cuckbloods.
>>746032138Because the combat is just a dumb dps race against bosses and fighting common bots is not as engaging as fighting enemies in Souls games
>>746032138>don't people love cool giant robots?Actually, no. Most people don't care about mecha stuff at all, it's associated with pre-teen boys for the most part
>>746037835>Because the combat is just a dumb dps race against bossesthere's like one boss in the entire game where this could theoretically apply to
>>746037743You’re gonna have to wind the clock way back is you wanna get upset at AC being cucked by Souls. From has a favorite and it’s not the franchise that kept them alive for decades, it’s the one that makes them fat stacks in current year.
>>746032138Worse gameplay than Souls
>>746037981Evil will always triumph.
>>746037946it applies to everything, staggerslop encourages damage speedrun gameplay.
>don't people love cool giant robots?No, i think robots are gay. Also game was too hard to get a lot of people on board.t.mech engineer
>>746037872How is it even a mecha game its just darksouls with robots?
>>746038009That looks waaaaaaaaaaay better than webms I've seen of the final boss of the elden ring dlc lmao
>>746032138Mechas filter out the normies.Don't ask me why, it's just a fact of life.
>>746038138not when the stagger only applies for 2 secondsdps race implies that the only thing that matters is damage when 90% of the gameplay consists of movement
>>746037946No, the combat itself is designed as a dps raceIn Souls games, the combat is designed so you can efficiently play in many ways as long as you can find attack windowsIn Armored Core 6, you spray dudes with machine guns to get them staggered before it happens to youBeing efficient in Armored Core 6 unsatisfyingly deletes the bosses in a slugfestOnly few select bosses even incentivize dodging more complex attack patterns in a way that is still not as interesting as in Souls (where you have to balance defense with attack)
>>746033368I'd like a game with Armored core perspective and aiming method, with chicken walkers instead of humanoids. Basically re-integrate Chromehounds into Armored Core.>>746038009>thinking cap: on>thing: coolest ever>this shit: fuckin' sucks actuallyYou're a dumbass.
>>746038359>In Souls games, the combat is designed so you spend 20 minutes frantically rolling around so you can attack 2 times before you go back to rollingFTFY, this boring approach to gameplay is why I dropped Elden Slop halfway through.also>posts a webm where some guy actually has to put thought into dodging and doesn't even manage to stagger the boss
>>746035797Just a failed normal gag seething about japan
>>746038361I'm sorry if this upset you, but Armored Core 6 is just not that interestingOptimizing some weapon synergies to abuse the stagger mechanic is not fun or engaging. The whole thing feels scripted and on rails
Why did shazam lose and get raped?
>>746038608Skill issue
>>746038804You like to watch.
>>746038702shut up, vagueposting nincompoop. no one cares about your "oh it insists upon itself" opinions.
>>746032138i love the idea of giant robots in the sense that i like Gundam. Armored Core didn't really fulfil a Gundam power fantasy because its mostly a third person shooter. if the game had strong and diverse melee components, i'd have picked it up.
>>746038009It's got legs why does it slide. I didn't like armored core, i like machinery and process. All optimism gone when i saw my mech on its crane turn 180* and "deploy" straight into a loading screen.
"people" got filtered by:Believe it or not, the first helicopterBalteusThe spider thingIbisThat is way too many filters for the average person
>>746038980>>746038961Sorry if this upset you, but Armored Core 6 is not that deep
Armored core was way more fun than DAS3 or elden ring. I hope they do more non-rollslop
>>746039762I don't even know why you keep posting these webms as if they were supporting your position. I'd call it bait but it doesn't make sense that way either.
why does this niche game have more dedicated shitposters than your average elden ring threads now
>>746032138cause the controls when the series started filtered people. like me.
knight and dragon gamers are no better than ball and gun gamers
>>746039762What i dont like is that the environment seems to be just flat planes. I guess the same is true for most souls bosses.The effects also look pretty dated.
>>746038009this looks really cool though?
When will people stop pretending souls games aren't braindead gameplay?It's like they've attached their own identity to a game with multiple invincibility buttons
>>746040260i miss a time when nobody knew what dark souls 1 was. if i knew the playerbase would become this insufferable i'd have wished death on the series.
>>746032138>don't people love cool giant robots?There has never been a point in time where mecha had a mainstream audience
>>746032138Likely due to Baldur's Gate 3 releasing the same month
CHICKS DIG
>>746032138Dark Souls is just 3rd person King's Field. It caught on because it came out at just the right time when all games were lobotomized babyslop that played itself. Armored Core 5 sucked ass so they missed their window and got mogged by inferior Gunpla slop.
In a better timeline AC would have spawned a new subgenre and we would have hundreds of different "Core-likes" to play
>>746038009>Worse gameplay than SoulsWhy lie
>>746041210>It caught on because it came out at just the right timeIt actually didn't, at least the first. Dark Souls 1 originally released to a pretty full window of other RPG games, including Skyrim and Dragon's Dogma. Whatever Skyrim didn't eat, DD did, and it forced Dark Souls into something of a brief niche as it went under the radar. Back then it had a relatively small player base, but it was comfy. It was the Prepare to Die edition that really kicked the hornets nest, releasing in a time with a lot less competition and pre-packaged with the DLC, along with a major marketing push and the goodwill of the original audience. From there it snowballed into the release of DS2 and kept growing.
>>746041252What's a gride?Is it like a scadu?
Why do mecha threads always have these semi-deranged posters? not deranged enough to be funny, too deranged for me to believe they are real people.Anyway, anything after gen 3 is newfag trash
>>746037835DPS race combat is cool though. In the good old days of KF and AC, before the invention of invincibility frames, your character wasn't immortal as long as you pressed the circle button at the right time, which meant that you actually had to put some effort into levelling up(KF) or designing a good mech (AC), if you wanted to progress.
>>746039435Skating mecha are cooler and more practical
>>746037835>i push the invincibility button at the right timeBejeweled has better engagement than that
>>746042282>put some effort into levelling upsmashing the level up button so hard with so much effort rn
>>746038057Because Good is dumb.
>>746039435Autistic little freaks should be culled. Tired of these niggers.
>>746032138pretty sure 6 alone sold more than the entire rest of the series combined so the From name convinced quite a few people
>>746037619This but unironically.Also the staggerbar shit is so lame and gay.
>>746040147>blah blah blah listen to my opinion about things I didn't playThere's levels and boss with verticality. Not counting those where touching the ground is a penalty, I mean levels where the place you fight isn't a flat plane at all like the balam all out giant super bowl. Best fights are the ones in big levels so you can strategize. Betraying your team to fight iguazu in the alternative route let you fight in the entire map for example. >also the effects look pretty datedit's a cross gen game that runs on vanilla ps4
>>746037619more meme words troonsister/poojeet/brown/sour incel please! ( pick one, or many )
>>746032138I like the otome/yumestacy interpretation of the game
>>746044050>showing humansfuck off
>>746043547When actually happened is the gaming world is bigger than it was when AC last released. How many people didn't know even what Armored Core was until this game? Lot of people think Fromsoft started with Souls lmao.
>>746044262I just think it's funny
>>746032138AC was a significantly more popular franchise up until 3 thoughrollslopblood clankerparry came at a different time
I don't know why you guys start threads asking why people don't like a game and then seethe at people who give you reasons they didn't like it. What were you expecting?
>>746032138>didn't catch onthis series got 8 bajillion sequels
>>746032138I don't know but I should try AC6 out some day. For now I'll have to stick with the poor man's Gundam known as MASS Builder.
>>746032138mech is a pretty niche interest as it is, and most of the Armored Core games weren't that good, and weren't that popular outside of Japan. there was nothing to give them mainstream attention, and the only one that was better than decent came out at the tail end of a series that put a genre and From on the map, and two new IPs that won GOTY. AC was always doomed when it comes to mass appeal.
>>746045624Gundam breaker 4 was pretty fun but the combat isn’t as good as AC6, both are like $25 on loaded formerly cdkeys
>>746038608>play souls game like a boring retard and ignore every other mechanic>wtf this sucksevery time with you niggers. don't bother replying to me
>>746045873>spoilerI'm aware. Just wish AC6 didn't come with intrusive DRM.
>>746033368Well those mecha gmes aren't popular either
>>746032138>don't people love cool giant robots?Not in the slightest for the vast majority of people.
>>746032138You're really asking why Armored Core VI doesn't maintain souls game numbers.The answer is simple, nobody gave a fuck about the online arena, souls is sustained by a Co-op/invasion system where people are more likely to replay the game just get the joy of invading again.Armored Core already attempted a sort of online experience before, it boggles my mind why they just didn't slap on a Souls invasion.
>>746032138Every time I see this sort of post I think about this
I had to make another AC6 thread because the inspiration was irresistible kek
>>746032138I don't like SciFi. I also don't really super duper care about Dark Fantasy and would prefer slightly light-hearted High Fantasy, but since Miyazaki can only make dying worlds, I guess I just have to live with that.
>>746032138Killing living creatures is more satisfying than shooting metal robots
>>746032138Too technical
>>746032138Back when From was pumping these games out regularly they were not the same well known company they are today. The games also clearly did not have the budget that the Souls games have enjoyed. As for AC6 I would guess that Souls fanboys saw that it wasn't Souls and probably didn't care regardless. As for the rest, I think normies don't like robots and mecha because they like human stories and being able to play as a human more. AC6 is great but you don't see any human at all through the course of the games story. I like it a ton, but this just won't have mainstream appeal. Doesn't matter how good the game was.Just my thoughts though.
>>746046964>souls is sustained by a Co-op/invasion system where people are more likely to replay the game just get the joy of invading again.this is so incorrect i'm amazed someone typed it. anon the majority of people absolutely despise invasions, it's why most people that play elden ring straight up mod it out the fucking game.
>>746050050Retard, Seamless Co-op wasn't designed to remove pvp, that was a side effect of the mod, which allowed for pvp between users of the mod.
>>746052467retard, it doesn't at all change the fact. the modern fromdrone hates invasions with a passion.
Stop being a little whimp hopping around on your twig legged mech shooting pebbles and get yourself a REAL mech
>>746047136Based slinger
>>746053000I hate invasions because in DS1/2 they were always whiny faggots because I broke their meaningless rules and they continued to do it with each game.
>>746032138I'm currently going through the game for the first time and I've never played AC beforehand I don't like souls games because I get my ass handed to me but in this game I'm doing pretty well and I'm like 75% through with a minigun + rocket combo is the game supposed to be easy? I never looked up any builds or guides
>>746032138As long as they gay stability bars are part of the design it will never be popular.
>>746044262if it wasn't about humans they would all just be AIs dummy
>>746037835Pretending like AC6 doesn’t have the best combat in any From game is the height of contrarianism. Sekiro is second but 6 wins for its essentially infinite variety.
>>746038359>you spray dudes with machine guns to get them staggered before it happens to youReplace machine guns with ashes of war and you’ve described Elden Ring better than you just described AC6
>>746054041> I'm like 75% through with a minigun + rocket combo is the game supposed to be easythe real difficulty starts when the real game unravels, much later on. you're not as far into the game as you think you are.
>>746056538>infinite variety.You could say that about ACVD multiplayer because of the tactical layer, team compositions and overed plays but AC6? LMAO.
>>746039762Every webm you’ve posted is impossible to perform by anyone but the top 10% of people playing. They’re all showcasing expert evasive maneuvers while simultaneously weaving in weapon combos. If you could win these fights by standing still and spamming attacks you’d have evidence of it.
>>746056841Is samefagging to this degree fun somehow?
>>746057214What are you talking about
>>746040260I don't dislike the Souls games, but I do find it weird when people act like the combat is anything special. It's only marginally less shallow than something like Diablo, and a small step up from King's Field.>>746041559Demons' Souls is the one that came out at exactly the right time. Dark Souls never would have happened if Demons' Souls hadn't performed vastly beyond expectations and gained FromSoft a lot of recognition. Its success looks minor compared to what Dark Souls later achieved, but it was the game that really changed the company's trajectory.>>746045542This is /v/, where everything is either a top-selling AAA blockbuster or a massive flop that was hated by everyone.
>>746057454“Expert evasive maneuvers” and he’s just quick boosting and injecting first aid into his veins come on lol
>>746032138Souls caught on harder.
>>746033368If you're gonna chicken, you oughta chicken harder.
>>746057529In DS and DeS I always got the feeling like the combat was only a small aspect of larger ways to engage with the game. Namely leveling, upgrading and equipping the right gear all felt as or more important. Correct play was the punctuation at the end of the sentence of how your build kills bosses. Naked fuck with a stick builds and “let me guess, you need more” may have ruined the trajectory of the franchise
>>746032138because it went to shit with 4
>>746033368AC6 really dropped the ball not including gun arms
>>746058058Someone who’s only even fully completed a single playthrough more often than not can’t do that.
>>746045985>bro just parry/block bro it's so easy>what do you mean you can't parry or block the 3 story tall fatass with a hammer that causes earthquakes? just dodge and block bro>you don't like watching 30 minutes of the boss having a meltdown across the entire arena? skill issue bro just use any mechanic other than dodging brono thanks, i like to actually play my games instead of just watching
do spider tanks count as mechs?
>>746032138wasn't it the best selling armored core in the entire series
>>746059781Yes. And they are a million times cooler than those walking trashcan style battletech mechs, which is why it's too bad they barely in mecha games.
>>746059523This really.
>>746038702All of your webms show the player having to time their quickboosts, stay within their weapons envelope while also keeping enough distance from the boss to avoid attacks. There's a lot more going on than Edlen Rings combat that boils down to abusing the iframes for the whole fight.
>>746032138Its all timing. dark souls released at the right time.
Mechs are legitimately the most boring thing imaginable to me. Worse than slop. I would rather not play vidya than play with mechs
>>746061883They unrealistically are never in a combined arms scenario.
>>746061689>boils down to abusing the iframes for the whole fightWhy do retards ignore shit like shields with guard counters and ashes of war that can make trades worthwhile or outright avoid some attacks? You dumb niggers just focus on rolling and act like there's absolutely nothing else to the game. I'm not even that anon I disagree with him when it comes to AC6 even but jesus christ you fags are stupid.
>>746062090NTA You’re right, but I think the people bitching don’t know what’s wrong, they just know something is. What they’re feeling isn’t that there’s no defensive options besides dodging in ER, it’s. that dodging is a universally safe constantly present option. The equivalent in AC6 is proper positioning which is a much more engaging and difficult thing to master. In a world where there’s 30 evasive / defensive maneuvers, but they all come with costs except for one which is always correct, law of averages says most of what you’ll be doing is that.
>>746044262They show humans in-game faglord.
I want a souls type of game in armored cores world. Basically a human type of guy with armor and shoulder weapons and what not but be human sized and the world could be set in something like Armored Core. Armored Souls basically. Would be cool, I think they could pull it off. Futuristic souls. The Surge had the right idea but that game lacked FROMs world design and gameplay function.
>>746062850It's called Dolls Nest.
>>746063034>gookslop anime women trash that isn't remotely FROMSOFTYeah no thats not even close to what I was talking about but thanks for the attempt.
>>746062850so you want a souls-like but instead of medieval knights it's sci-fi with power armor
>>746063151That does sound sick actually. Considering how awesome some of those medieval knight armors are designed and how cool the ACs can look yeah that would be cool. Kind of like Phantasy Star Online FROMSOFT edition. Could b kool
>>746063139Your loss.
>>746063253There are a few pretenders that have tried it. Daemon x 2, surge 1 and 2, bleak faith. That one recently where you play an ugly euro mutt with zoomer curls. I hear that one has good combat.
>>746032138the game's structure wasn't exactly very inspiring. especially up until balteus a lot of the missions just feel like random filler, and in terms of missions that actually feel meaningful there's maybe 5. climbing the wall, infiltrating the grid, descending down the large facility... that's kind of it?and frankly this game doesn't have enough strong enemies to beat up. balteus and sea spider used to be fun fights to test new loadouts against but then they got nerfed into oblivion.idk I like the game but there's too little meat on the bones. also people just don't care for this type of mission structure. in terms of actual story it was great though
>>746063139>gookslopno one tell anon where fromsoft is headquartered...
>>746063543FROM has always been honorary aryan
>>746032138they don'tHawx failedMech Warrior is barely aliveMechaBreak is barely aliveGundam Evolution failedTitanfall is deadSynduality failed
>>746032138I don't know but I thank god every day that the normies are staying away from my video game series. Widespread attention is the worst thing that can happen to a good series
>>746045624>MASS BuilderIs that any good? Was thinking of getting either that or daemon x machina
>>746032138>don't people love cool giant robots?no, this is specifically a japanese interest. giant robots havent been cool since transformers, over 20 years ago
>>746063637*Hawken
>>746063836It's a glorified kit builder at its core(with which you can a surprisingly decent amount). Story is effectively non-existent (you fight interdimensional aliens and sometimes rival PMCs), combat heavily favours melee and button mashing and build variety is somewhat limited. Combined with a credits/parts grind it makes for a poor outing. I haven't tried Daemon X Machina though I hear the sequel traded pure mecha for power armour focus.
>>746032138Because gamers have no standards. Why else would be swimming in an endless sea of slop. Just be thankful ac6 caused mecha indies to rise.
>>746032138Because they made middle-ground slop for easily impressed soulsniggers who were never going to stick around in the first place, whereas anyone even with standards low enough to think it's a good AC game have no reason to keep playing because the PvP was an afterthought.
>>746032138It literally was the catalyst for a massive fucking mecha boom that's still boiling along. We used to never get almost fucking ANYTHING but this+ SRW30 succeeded hard enough that we actually get some relatively regularly now.
>>746032138Let me know when Chromehounds 2 drops
>>746053000Players love them, From keeps reacting to a small minority and or is terrified that the red man may affect reviews. Everybody knows to this day DaS 1 did invasions the best and that had a blatant attempt at "balancing it" with its specific sequence break requirement.
AC6 has the worst fucking bonewheels
>>746064343DxM 2 I had a lot of fun with it, surprised people are so autistic about mecha sizes when you can barely tell how big you are in any of these games
>>746058820>>746057529The problem is that DeS and DaS are easy games. Not necessarily because the challenge is lacking (it is), but because their controls are very responsive, while not asking overly much of you, meaning it is easy to gitgud and being good is fun.
>>746062090>Why don't you use all of these less effective tricks instead of rolling?Gee, I wonder why.
>>746066427Eh, they're not that bad when you can fly
>>746038702Too niche for normalfags and "not muh AC" for ACfags.
>>746059781>read this post>black jumping spider skitters out in front of me 2 seconds later
>>746033368You shouldn't use 4chan threads to practice coming out
I want to see the timeline where king's field was a mecha game
>>746067056I’ve retroactively played 3 and silent line, and I liked them both a lot. The people complaining are grandpas upset the new generation doesnt have to walk uphill through the snow both ways. Proper movement in third gen is very difficult to master, and it amounts to fights that still look like circle strafe bunny hopping until someone explodes. Just because 6 is easier to control doesn’t mean it doesn’t also play better.
Kek, soul >>746068524
