MORROWIND CHADS CAN'T STOP WINNING
I finished Myar Aranath: Relict of KallidarWhat did I think of it?
Oh wow this mod lets you travel far outside Vvardenfell I can't wait to discover all those wondrous fantastical loca- oh it's just more brown and gray wasteland. Yay...
So Tamriel Rebuilt (TR) adds 1000 new quests. People say it's the best mod ever created. Okay. I get those statements. But to back up a statement, you need evidence or examples. What's an example of a really good questline? What happens that makes it great? I've read there are no questlines that send the player from one corner of Morrowind to the other corner, that each quest remains in the region it is found in... that doesn't bode well for a truly "remarkable quest." Is there just purple prose that people whose only reading experience is that godawful Umineko, so they're impressed by the writing in TR?What makes the best quests one-of-a-kind.
>>746088919you forgot to link the last general
>>746089206And you forgot to check your spam folder, it seems
>>746089152>i can't believe this morrowind expansion looks like more morrowind
>>746089167Mind you that TR is 2-3 times as large as Vvardenfell island. Even a local regional quest can involve a good amount of travel.
>>746088919>Almalexia: In Design
bro this gameplay is :fire: :fire: :fire:
>>746088919Er... is this map accurate? Are "Old Ebonheart" and "Firewatch" two cities that are bigger than fucking Vivec? How good are the cities? "Narsis" also apparently is bigger? How good is that city too? Almas Thirr is equal size along with Kragenmoor and Andrethis and Necrom? Are these all good cities that are Vivec-sized?
>>746088985Better than Arktwend
very cool>Morrowind still rotting in my backlogBasically never
>>746089167The Bal Foyen Fighters Guild questline starts off with you doing generic guild shit, getting a rival if you choose not to kill him every time and ends with some Lovecraftian entity trying to consume the town because some noble thought he could bring his dead wife back. You can even end the questline by refusing to fight it and talking things through.
>>746089319The symbol states the number of services, not the actual size (which you can see by the number of cells it occupies) or lore category.
>>746089167>I've read there are no questlines that send the player from one corner of Morrowind to the other cornerthe main quest epilogue does this
>>746089206OH NO! TWO THREADS ABOUT A NEW MOD!That'll take away from the 20 active GTA6 generals you love so much!
>>746089152>Most of these screenshots are from an in development area and one region at thatNice cherry picking, retard.
>>746089319The city rankings are based on how many people live there iirc. Neither are bigger than vivec in terms of space taken up on the map. Maybe Narsis technically is.But yeah they are better than Vivec. The smaller cities are too. Almas Thirr, Bal Foyen, even Necrom is neat to explore though it's old so sparse on quests. The Telvanni area is also old and so not as impressive
>>746089206>3 active world of trannycraft generals, 50 rolling door gta6 generals:)>1 thread about a recently released modDELETE THIS :((((
Was this worthy of getting removed from TR?https://imgur.com/a/verulas-pass-morag-tong-training-camp-C1MOyk3
>>746089319Narsis is fuckhuge and filled with content. The other cities are smaller than Vivec (sometimes only slightly) but also have a shit ton of content.
>>746089431:O
>>746089167>I've read there are no questlines that send the player from one corner of Morrowind to the other cornerThere are couple of questlines that send you far away. From top of my head end of Firewatch Mages Guild questline sends you quite literaly to the opposite end of the map. One of the last Morag Tong quests from Narsis send you to Akamora.
What is the absolute best Player House mod? In term of mannequins, utility, QoL and exposition place?
>>746089643Yeah that looks like bad ESL fanfic.
>>746089206Why are threads like this actively policed by retards but the hundreds of threads about a single game constantly occurring on /v/ in some form or another treated as being fine?
Are there any time traveling quests in TR? Something like Steins;Gate? Or is it all just like "go to this dungeon" and "collect some bugs for me"?
>>746089718For every /v/ general that gets silently banned, it leaves behind dozens of salty anons who enter other /v/ threads and call them generals. Fire Emblem fags got nuked recently
>>746089728>Something like Steins;Gate?Why would you want that?
>>746089643yes, it looks like it was written by a retard who only played skyrim
>>746089167Most are small stuff like helping naked nords but some semi-spoilery standouts for me were>the crystal wizard>2E fort ruins near of Narsis>lost underground cities (multiple)>lost in oblivion city>the non-hostile daedric ruins (multiple)>Narsis and Anvil arena>mountain orcs in the velothi mountains>new criminal syndicate in Narsisthat being said I play this mod as more of a sightseer. larping as the nerevarine goofing around on the mainland on vacation or something.
>>746089670Yes, actual interesting content. Best make fun of that, right?
I've done some highly scientifc calculations and have arrived at the conclusion that Cyrodiil will take ~ 24 more Anvils to finish.
>>746089718well, you see, some janny said a decade ago some bullshit about "cultural phenomenon" which translates to "only games i don't like qualify as generals"
>>746089779At this rate TR will be done within the next decade, so a bunch of people will end up moving to PT stuff.
>>746088985No one gives a shit about thisWe only like Enderal here
>>746089881unlikely, they're going to waste a ton of time going back and updating old content
post your toons
>tfw TR might be completed by the time I retire so I can spend the rest of my life playing through all the quests
>>746089773>that being said I play this mod as more of a sightseer. larping as the nerevarine goofing around on the mainland on vacation or something.I did that first playthrough, but now I make RP characters, ignore Vvardenfell and just leave it immediately and give them a goal to reach.
>>746090074So WBM is close to being ready? We won't be waiting a whole year for it?
>>746090074>remaking shit that was made 4 years agoBRUH
>>746090074>Poison Song is out>WBM will be out probably early next year>Skyrim got nuked because bethesda updated it againno wonder the seething shitposters are in this thread
>>746090074Narsis remake when?
>>746088919uncs really desperate to get people to play their shitty 25 year old game
>>746090228no I dont want you to play it you dont deserve to play it go back and goon to your skyrim sex mods, broccoli haired faggot
>>746089930The pace they're working at is incredibly fast compared to previous years. Just look at the OP map. While Poison Song was in development they already have exteriors done for the last Hlaalu expansion and the first batch of Redoran stuff is in development. They are also redoing another two regions at the same time and apparently designing Almalexia.
>>746090212I unironically don't like the landscape and feel it's out of place for that region.>>746090228What a retarded post. We're discussing a new mod update, why would we want the likes of you here? Haven't you got your normalfag GTA 6 to salivate over, kid?
>>746090074>mercenariesIntredasting
>>746089167You don't deserve any proofs or examples, prick.
>>746090463This is just lawyerspeak for "There are none.".
>>746089152The mushroom forest is kino
i've done nothing but stare at a bed casting a 1 second waterwalking on myself for the past hourwhy the fuck do i keep making casters
>>746090562why the fuck do you do that shit instead of mages guild training?
>>746090562Why the fuck do you think you need to powerlevel your spells?The game has enough easy quests, especially if you install content mods, to level at a chill pace.
did they add the new spells in openmw?
>>746090562My last guy was a mage, but I honestly prefer traditional sword and board types. Too bad the fighters guild quests are usually boring compared to the mages guilds.
>>746089970Where are the frogs?
>>746090669yes, blink is OP
>>746090625there is no mage guild in gorne>>746090663because i went straight to gorne and i need to cast a levitation spell to get one of the papers for an npc there
>>746090669ye but you need to enable them with a modhttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58693
>>746090682Now THIS is a quest that requires a long journey
>>746090718potions/scrolls/enchanted items exist
>>746090718>there is no mage guild in gorne>mark in gorne>divine intervention to old ebonheart>train>recall to gorne
>>746090718>I Want To Be A Mage But I'm Stuck On Gorne So I Power Leveled My Alteration To 100 And Unlocked Cheat Powers That Let Me Fly?!retardkino
>>746089773>lost in oblivion cityAre you talking about the trap in the Ebonheart mages guild or something new?
>>746089643NOOO NO REWORKS LEAVE THE SOVL ALONE
>>746090762my alchemy is dogshit and i ended up wasting the materials i got my hands oni don't know where i'd get scrolls or enchanted items with levitation and i'm not wikifagging.one of the npcs on gorne sold me a stock levitation spell so i am training alteration to use it
Are those mods worth it?https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/54137?tab=postshttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52279?tab=descriptionHaving the NPCs actually talk sounds fun.
openMW 0.52 will kill mwse in terms of magic
All this bitching about stuff being removed has reminded me of an actually GOOD change:>Tarheil is back to being some random faggot who didn't understand gravity and not some secret genius court wizardI'm glad they did this, it always bugged me.
>>746090824Morrowind is about getting isekai into unknown hyper-magical land and solo-leveling your way to goodhood from nothing, if you think about it.
I hate OpenMW vs MWSE tribalism we already have skyrim and eso faggots to deal with, don't need to fling shit at eachother too
>>746090887>Trying to start the rivalry fight againFuck off.
>>746090956so you get nothing for saving him?
>>746091008tbf there's gotta be at least a hundred mods that add stuff to Tarhiel, make him a companion etc.
>>746089167For me its all mainland hlaalu quests. even the retarded fetch ones have funny gimmicks >Searching for the missing shit in the warehouse >The cliffhanger that steals from shops >The 1 septim loan that turned to 7k or something after centuries >Blowing up the rival ship >Joining the club of gamblers who bet on shit >The hlaalu gang wars with the gray graydust syndicate Also I liked the Legion ones>One of the forts had a lot of quests and for every one of them you can multiple paths of either 100% imperial law enforcement or more reasonable approach to follow local customs >The one where you hide in a shop to catch a thief The old ebonheart EEC have fun quests too.
>>746090876>took the alchemy RNG punches on the chin without savescumming>not a wiki warriorbased actually
So, genuine question for TR fans. I'm in my mid-thirties. Morrowind came out decades ago. Yeah, back then I could play as an Argonian, grab a spear, and jump into the ocean and roleplay that I was an escaped slave and live in caves and such and hide from civilization, but I have a career these days. I have a fiancee. I'm going to have a child soon. I don't roleplay or do any of that shit anymore, because I have a life and don't need to do that or escape from loneliness and go into a world where I need to be a prophesized hero. Can you enjoy TR without needing to do any of that roleplay shit?
>>746090880Not really. Morrowind dialogue was not made with voiceover in mind and the AI "acting" is dogshit. Also If you're using any other quest mods you would have to have some sort of voice mod for that as well.It's hyllic nonsense. Your inner theatre of mind should be more than enough.
>>746091104Yeah you can just wander around looking at stuff and killing things.
>>746091104it sounds like all the soul has been sucked out of you, you'll probably end up minmaxing your character and skill like >>746090562 and suck all the fun out of the game and instead treat your run as another checkbox to tick, proclaim as "complete enough" and move on from
>>746090698Swamps on the South part of the Strident Coast.
>>746091104It seems you are retarded, but in a wrong way, so no, you can't enjoy a vidya game anymore, my condolences.
>>746091104You sound like a dick to be honest. Why are you even on 4chan if you're going to be a sneering normalfag and load your post up with contempt like that?
wha kinda fahking guar is dis
>>746091113Shame. The massive size problematic enough, but I guess I'll have to do without.Listening to Dagoth Ur AI videos made me dream of what they could do with the rest.
>>746091104only children give a shit about the "chosen hero" main storyline, this goes for all the TES gameschads ignore the main questline and RP as a simple grunt of one of the less powerful factions
>>746091104Just because you have a child and a wife doesn't mean you can't enjoy free time, roleplaying or not.
>>746091257Open the doorGet on the floorTamriel Rebuilt added a fucking dinosaur
>>746091104if you have the time to shitpost on and seek validation from 4chan you have the time to RP
I just have 3 different installs of morrowind for different thingsNow a forth one actually, because of TR gog version lol>>746091257crispy spicy chicken wing ahh guar
>>746090838I'm talking about Khalaan
>>746091104Early 40s here. I fucking pity you for losing part of yourself like that. It was not a good trade.
>>746091308no it doesn't, he's probably pussywhipped by a wife who probably seethes he dares to enjoy himself without her
>>746091319https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgiDcJi534Y
>>746091410Well if he has a toxic relationship... he should set out boundaries, firmly.
>>746091262voice mods for major characters such as Vivec, Dagoth Ur or Almalexia are a thing too. They even predate AI
>>746091104Premium bait here, very nice.Just sincere enough to get actual responses, but just condescending enough to annoy people.
>>746091425Even better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3ibK5y0cI
>>746090562>>746090718go gathering. look for:cliff racer plumessweetpulptrama rootcoda flowerpick two and make some fucking potions
>>746089206cry me a river, bitch
>>746088919What's with the big exclusion zone in the northern ocean?
>>746091598I don't know why this guy sits in morrowind threads making posts like that, but /v/ users swallow any bait so it bumps the thread at least.
>>746089262I honestly don’t envy the devs regarding Almalexia, because no matter what they do, they will piss people off. Creating the biggest city in the province would be difficult on itself, but it’s even worse that they have to somehow solve the issue where they have to integrate their work with Bethesda’s not-so-great interpretation of Mournhold.Leave the old Mournhold as it is, and it will feel like empty and boring speck of crap on middle of more interesting city design, but touch it, and people will also get pissed off by alterations of vanilla content.
>>746089262>>746092450I don't get it. Shouldn't they just put a big ass circle with doors to enter the city/cells?
I kinda dig this new invetory stuff, especially since inventory extender doesn't have paperdoll
>>746091104it's soul-sucking to think of roleplay only in terms of escapism, how about adding some internal dialogue/decisionmaking in order to immerse yourself or expand your options? i tried playing as an arrogant mage once and adding simple personality traits is enough to guide your playthrough in places you would not go as an "efficient" player
>>746088919So we wont even get a glipmse of black marsh?is blacklight finished?
>>746092450Attempts to preserve the old Mournhold layout got dropped years ago. They're making their own layout and quests will be redistributed as needed.
>>746092524That’s probably how they will do it, yes. But it will still feel suboptimal, because Bethesda’s Mournhold is empty as fuck with dull big open plazas and whatever the TR team is going to do with Almalexia, it’s probably going to be magnitudes better and more dense, so going from TR Almalexia to vanilla Mournhold will be a jarring experience for sure.
>>746092632God I wish more mods were compatible with the Controller function.>Bardcraft, Throwing, Cooking, Crafting, Jewelcrafting.So people ARE using those!
>>746088985sounds gay
>>746092791I'm just collecting skill mods that don't seem like total bullshit
>>746092784Ah, I see now. Mournhold would be disappointing by comparison of literally everything around.
shit like this always impresses the hell out of me, but then I remember that you're still playing Morrowind, which has fucking abysmal combat. Always makes me lose interest, come back when they add this shit to Skyrim
>>746092782Really? I don’t know how I could have missed that, but good to hear. While preserving vanilla content would otherwise be a good design guideline, Tribunal version of Mournhold is so disappointing that at least I personally won’t mind tinkering around with it. You could compare it to any other semi-big city in TR and it feels so utterly lifeless in comparison.
>>746088985I never played the Morrowind tc mods these guys madeHow are they?
>>746092836To be honest, I don't get most of them.Cooking is basically Alchemy. Mining is basically going into mines and stealing the ores.Evasion is basically Agility and stuff.The rest make more sense for me.>StavesMorrowind kind of did them dirty.
>>746092906wasn't there a morrowind in oblivion and later oblivion in skyrim project?
>>746092906Just install a mod for it.
>>746093005mining works with those extra ores added by other mod where I need to hit them to mineI think todd intented staves to be enchanted as they have way higher enchant cap
>why am i hearing helicopter soun-
>>746093005>Mining is basically going into mines and stealing the ores.Yeah, you're supposed to need skill for that. If hitting things hard, wearing armor and running fast are a skill, then mining obviously should be one too.Same for gathering herbs, honestly.
>>746092972There's a page about it on their website:https://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/about/frequently-asked-questions/almalexia
>>746093109I mean, it's pretty obvious the staves are there for the bonk and to cast spells from them, you are unnironically being a Mage Fighter. And then some legendary staves are just really shitty.But it's a bit boring. Very boring. No wonder Oblivion and Skyrim changed it as just a casting tool, with Skyrim making it one-handed.Rare moment where I say something posiive about Skyrim.
>neither openmw or mgexe have 1440:1080 res for 1080p 4:3what the fuck
>>746093480alien resolution
>>746093214Not gonna lie. I want to see that. The city in Tribunal had some problems;Like it being a big circle with things that looked the same.
>>746093480they dont even let you use 4:3 res on a 16:9 or uwd monitor, it just stretches
Speaking of TR spells.Why the fuck does Insight exist?Who thought that it's a good idea to implement a chore spell that you need to cast every time you loot anything to give you a chance for extra loot?
>>746093750Eh, probably make it a Constant effect. Or a enchanted item you cast it with.It's not the best spell though, I agree, it's probably the worst effect of them all.
>>746092906Skyrim has abysmal everything else though. It's barely an RPG, so no, nobody will be interested in porting it to Skyrim because the people who can code prefer the in-depth games.
>>746093985Skyrim has more complex mods than morrowind does
>>746094021That's a bait of poor quality.
>>746094021No it fucking doesn't, unless you're talking about porn mods which knowing Skyrim you probably are.
>>746089779I wonder if the Imperial City will suffer the same fate as Almalexia for TR where it will be hyped up by fans for over a decade but will be such a gargantuan task the devs will keep putting it off.
Should I install Lua Physics Engine?
>>746089970That's a cool character you're playing as. Where did you find that dumb looking dunmer though?
>>746089167Almas Thirr Temple questline is very goated
>>746094293I think the province of Morrowind will be complete before the imperial city even gets exteriors.
>>746088919What do the developers want help with? I can easily make assets in Morrowind's style.
>go to vvardenfel, gather some ash from the ashlands by using this bag, but ground ashes isn't good enough they have to be gathered from an ashstormwhat the hell man i wanted to do stuff in the mainland
>>746094496you can join the discord and go in on their official website and also see what asset claims are up
>>746094542Knowing how well this thread is going, he might just want to sabotage it.
>>746094496they need exactly thatthey'll need a proof you can actually do it tho, then choose free asset from the needed list and start blasting
>>746090198In the case of Roth Roryn and the Armun Ashlands, it makes perfect sense to redo them (at least exterior-wise) because they were released 4 years ago but had been actually made for close a decade before that, using vanilla assets.To stop having two identical regions (like with the Poison Song update of the Sundered Scar), they're updating Armun Ashlands to Armun Wastes and giving it a brownish look.As for Roth Roryn, it appears the place was kind of a nightmare of rocks and they vowed to make it prettier.
>>746094647>make all the assets the devs ask for>but secretly add a few extra triangles to each one until the game lagsDEVILISH
>>746094647you can't sabotage anything and there are occasionally trolls coming and saying like they want to "test" the new stuff, funny thing is everything is public and you can walk around all unreleased content currently.
Temple Dome has been added to your inventory.
>>746094839Oh shit, they'll need to update graphic herbalism again for Sundered Scar.
>>746094542https://wiki.project-tamriel.com/wiki/Easy_Assets_List this is cool. I wanna make my own cities though. I guess I don't have to ask anyone's permission to do that though
>>746092450Honestly fuck tribunal dlc and mournhold. It should be burned to the ground and whatever remains should be used in the rebuilt version. It does have its charm, but quests feel like some afterthought bullshit quickly made up on the spot and the whole experience is a slog more than anything.
>>746089167>there are no questlines that send the player from one corner of Morrowind to the other corner, that each quest remains in the region it is found in... that doesn't bode well for a truly "remarkable quest."Holy shit kill yourself
Where is Skyrim and Hammerfell on the TR map?
My only experience with Tamriel Rebuilt when I tried playing it a couple months ago was getting on a boat to Bal Foyen, exploring the docks and doing a quest where I had to find some missing items in a warehouse. I then proceeded to visit a skooma den under a local tavern and lost all my money playing dice. Good times, I thought the item hunt quest was pretty well made for such a simple side quest. Do all towns have small interesting side content like that?
>>746095189Well Almalexia being coocoo was a bit obvious after all...Poor Sotha.
>>746092450I don't think anyone will miss old Mournhold honestly. As long as Gaenor still shows up to slap your ass it's fine.
>>746095189This. I love Morrowind but the official expansions are ass. Tribunal has a ton of promise but then sends you into the sewers over and over, and Bloodmoon gives you a cool frozen island then puts a monster every meter that's overleveled so you have armies of bears stronger than literal gods rushing you.These expansions are the weakest parts of the game and I always use a mod to delay them indefinitely.
>>746095281here but its a little outdated
Help me build a RP plan for a pirate character.What guilds would be the most fitting? What TR areas would have the best content? Any mod suggestions?Current plan: Redguard who lives on a Stormrider boat. Exclusively uses rapiers. Agility and Personality.
>>746089319Funny thing is I think Anvil in project cyrodiil might be the biggest, but don't quote me on that
>>746095337That's crazy, I want to see the latest one
>>746095294Yeah there are misc quests fucking everywhere. I stopped at a random town during a journey and went to sleep in an inn, got involved in this whole rabbit hole quest with someone's lost amulet in the sewers or something.The towns in the easternmost areas have less content since they're old.
>>746095309almalexia as an antagonist is the only saving grace of the whole shitshow
>>746095330...I like Bloodmoon...
>>746095189At this point they should just get rid of all Bethesda content once the mainland is done and also remake Vvardenfell as the fully ash covered wasteland it was meant to be early in development. Make the player arrive on the mainland with the entirety of Vvardenfell as an endgame zone.
>>746095409It's how it was handled that was the problem. Obviously she is getting crazy, but somehow, it's supposed to be a total surprise.
>>746095346a privateer adventurer for EEC?or no guilds just go explore all the ruins and get the booty
>>746095337I love the comfy Anvil area for PT. I haven't explored the surrounding islands yet but I mean to get around to it.The little slice of tropical Cyrodil reminds me of when I was a kid and played Runescape, and the free players got a small tropical island that was a fraction of some larger paid area to wander around if you could find it.
>>746095337We will have the Black People Country. Cooool.>>746095450+10 years of development.
>>746095384It's so peak. Non-Morrowind places look best in Morrowind.
>>746095543good ol karamja lobster run
>>746089970
>>746095450Vvardenfell is cursed to forever have 900 different mods necessary to improve it, instead of just one mod like TR
>>746095450There is Vivec Rebuilt being worked on. Ideally there could be some sort of cohesive facelift/overhaul megamod for vvardenfel to integrate it to TR, but not a 100% rework
>>746095713Vivec not a bunch of samey blocks anymore? Sign me up.
>>746095713its kinda bad, at least it looks bad from the screenshots.Sorry.Vivec probably cant be fixed.
It's a shame Unofficial Tamriel Rebuilt Spells doesn't have all the spells depending of the engine you use.I would use the fuck out of Blood Magic.
>>746095629brotha from anotha motha
>>746090206A game being abandoned can be the greatest blessing for modders.
>>746095384that's way too fucking big, modders cant control themselves
>>746095346Thieves Guilds sound closest to what you want honestly, even though it's a lot of sneaking and gang wars, pirates are basically smugglers and thieves after all. The master in Old Ebonheart is actually a pirate.There are many islands to explore with a boat, you can also sail all the way up the Thirr river. The only blocker is some kind of toll gate in Almas Thirr where you can't actually pay any toll and have to disable the gate with the console or somethingThis is a map of a trip I took on a boat, from an old version though so one of the islands has moved (also one of these islands is from a different mod)I also never did much in PT areas but there's some islands off the coast of Anvil I think, might be some sea content out there.
>>746091319Lol
>>746089728>Something like Steins;GatePlease keep your shit taste in anime out of this game.
>>746095963It's too small
>>746091808It's left empty so other mods can add their own islands there without TR conflicting
>>746095963Nah it's perfect. The only thing I'd change is adding a bridge between the two docks.
>>746095189I liked the stage play quest...
>>746095963I like them big, makes me feel like I'm actually exploring a world, not playing a vidya game
>>746095919My imggar
>>746089728Ah yes the three quest types, "go here", "collect this" and "time travel"
>>746096120i like feeling like im playing a vidya game because i like playing vidya gamesthe cities shouldnt be any bigger than vanilla ones. balmora, ald-ruhn size is good
>>746096094>and whatever remains should be used in the rebuilt version
>>746096195nah that's lame
>>746096195ew, very wrong and bad opinion
>>746096006nta, but I was inspired to make a similar trip when you posted this last year when Narsis was released. The journey was pure kino with all the cool shit on the islands to see and discover, so thanks anon.
>>746096176travel back in time to put things you collect in current time
>>746096195Well first of all that's retarded and second of all vivec is in the base game and fucking huge so kill yourself
all I'm getting from this thread is that TR fags don't actually like Morrowind, they just like their community projects
>>746096195Why should a major trading port in the heart of tamrielic civilization have the same size as two frontier settlements in the middle of a backwater wasteland district that didn't get opened up to foreign colonization until 15 years before the game's events?
You can't tell me s'wit isn't short for suckwit.
>>746096320What a good faith post.A new mod update has released and anons are discussing it and future updates, now scamper off to your GTA threads.
>>746096351i thought it's shit wit
>>746096320all I'm getting that there is one retard baiter itt who think he is smart & original ;)
>>746096351Who the fuck calls someone a suckwit?
is using the mo2 to openmw plugin still the easiest way to mod openmw?
>>746096642>mo2
>>746095963They pulled it off well though. It's like two Balmoras, a fort, and a castle, and pretty easy to navigate aside from the docks. I was glad to see they scaled back Stirk dramatically and shifted some of it's stuff to the mainland though, it was way out of scale before Anvil released.
>>746096267Based, very niceIn that same playthrough I also used this modhttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/52880which puts you on a remote island and the ending is building a raft to escape. Would be nice if the raft were a vehicle but I think it was only a teleport.I look forward to the day we can sail from Anvil to Narsis and there's no emptiness in between
>>746095629Does playing as the TR races actually work now? I heard it can break some quests.
>>746096642I'm using it so yes
>>746096642Probably. I just add all the mod directories as external data directories but I wouldn't say that's particularly elegant.
I haven't played Morrowind since 2023 or so. I used to have a a few rebanalce patches I made for every single piece of equipment in vanilla + tr_data, and I gave up playing when I got tired of doing that project. I was desperately trying to make the game a balanced mod experience, and now I realize I was playing it wrong, but I still do not want to always resort to using the same equipment everytime. I wanted to make the standard armor and weapons (steel, iron, etc.) good as well, so you can have fun by choosing equipment that you think looks cool and still be able to do endgame content.Not that OpenMW has implemented Lua scripting properly, there might be a way of automating some of these things instead of relying on manually written patches. Or maybe I can just get an LLM to help me extract and parse the entire list of equipment from TR Data so I can build a programmatic script to rebalance everything.
>>746096732I never encountered one that broke, I think I read it's literally like one or two quests that even can break.
>>746096642I find openmw's native virtualization to be less hassle personally. Understandable if you like mo2 of organizing things better tho.
>>746096563Who the fuck calls someone a s'wit or n'wah?
>>746096195Fair criticism. I enjoy the towns, but they are bigger than the vanilla ones.
I have 900+ modsall installed manually just like my ancestors did
>>746096802This guy
>>746096856He's a suckwit nigga though
>>746094496upcoming releases always need regional assets. Indoril lands need a lot of shkt especially. if you like making rocks and trees or whatever that could be hugecreature rigging and armor rigging are some rare skills that are good too. if youre good with that you could make yourself pretty important lol
>>746096831yeah because vanilla takes place in a colonial frontier land that used to all be one big church reservation until a decade before the game's events
>>746096974mod where
>>746096974I like this mod. It's cute and funny.
>>746096970muh realistic lore autism is irrelevant, they dont fit in with the rest of the game no, even vivec doesnt count like a huge city because it's like a collection of self-contained mini cities
>>746097007https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59976?tab=descriptionright here nigga
>>746096974The wizard equivalent of quickly closing tabs on your browser when some s'wit walks in
>>746096974Give him back!
>>746096912oh, also most development discussion happens on the discord. you should go there and talk to devs about helping out, they always need more asset people. i dont feel like linking it here though lmfao. if you look itll be easy to find I think
>>746097056>they dont fit in with the rest of the game they do tho, they feel exactly like a morrowind city would feel like if the game didn't take place in a colonial backwater wasteland that used to be a church reservation until a decade prior
>>746096851ignorant fool, your ancestors used wrye bash
Anvil would have been better and more vanilla friendly if it was 4 big towers with a maze inside each of them.
fucking old ebonheart still makes the fps drop to 30s on openmw without distant lands or shaders
>>746097205NTA.>tfw i only used wrye bash to rip faces or fix AbombAnd for Morrowind you used Wrye Mash.In any case, Wrye M/Bash was shit.>it cannot even fix a map properly
>>746096974Need a mod that adds the wizard robes to this guy. Dialogue explains that he bought them used at a discount, and he heard the last owner sold them after going through a midlife crisis. He had to have them refitted a little but they're quite comfortable.
Is there a comprehensive list of custom scripted spell effects and whether they work on OpenMW or not?
>>746097179they dont fit in with the rest of the game because it would literally be impossible to ship the game with cities that big because of hardware limitationsif you're making "vanilla friendly" mods, you should keep those limitations in mind. trying to explain the completely different design philosophies with "erm, vvardenfell is a backwater shithole" isnt the way
>>746097450>it cannot even fix a map properlyWhat do you mean?
>>746097345All PTR content should be made strictly within the computing limitations that existed at the time of Morrowind's original development or else it's bad. If it it isn't designed to run on a 2001 xbox I don't want to play it.
>>746097642I'm an MGEfag so I've never tried it, but this mod exists now. So it might not matter.https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58693
>>746094673I've got good ideas for future content, though admittedly I don't have any experience with coding, designing assets, art or any of that stuff.
>>746097672And it was literally impossible for Bethesda to ship the game with mainland Morrowind in it as It was originally planned due to hardware and time limitations, guess they should delete the entire mod while they're at it to be truly vanilla-friendly
>>746097978okay you're just being disingenuous and retarded on purpose
>>746097705Basic issue is this.>have an existing char>finished most of TR content, just Telvanni lands to explore and finish>Narsis drops>make backups, download and install TR update>everything is fine>except map>map doesnt show new area>"ok, how fix">"no can fix if use MCP, map data baked into save. roll a new char n'wah">well shit, i use MCP, so go look look up a solution>Wrye Mash can be used to fix it>ok, do it>map is borked>i have grid lines allover distorting map to shit>look at files>no file whatsover that even remotely has gridlinesSo i just gave up on that shit, and will play Narsis content without map.
>>746098027ProjectionIf you asked an actual Morrowind dev right now if the vanilla game's default settlement sizes are some holy testament of their design philosophy, they'd just call you retard
>>746090074Damn Kragenmoor is almost already finished?>>746097959Who cares man, join up and make some concept art or posts or something. Or learn scripting. If the team was like 10 people larger they could probably double their pace.
>>746097959>ideas guy
>>746097959TR is so big that actually need idea guys too. Quest implementation is one of their major bottlenecks.
>>746096732IIRC the Bloodstone quest in Almas Thirr would break if you played a beast race that can't wear shoes. The quest checked if the PC was Khajiit or Argonian and gave another item but didn't check for new Khajiit types or beasts. I think that got fixed.If any other script or dialogue checks PC race with no fallback for new races, that's where issues might arise. Oversized races like giants are just inherently wonky because of their size. They're not meant to go indoors.
>>746098126>i have grid lines allover distorting map to shitAre the location markers duplicated at a smaller size too? I had the same problem in an old save I used with TR, it was caused by using the Morrowind Code Patch option to zoom out the map so it could show the mainland and then saving the game. The map changes were baked into the file even after loading it in a fully vanilla game.If you have an older save with the map looking correctly, you can use the Enchanted Editor to fit it: load both the old and current save in it and then "transplant" the map records from the old one to the new save. It worked for me.
>>746097672I get what you're saying but Anvil is the biggest city in Colovia, maybe even the second biggest city in Cyrodiil. It's marked a metropolis on the map. It should be as big as it is. Vivec is one step smaller on TR's map, for reference. If you think it should be smaller because Anvil ought to be smaller, that's more of a lore/design problem.
>>746097959I mean, if you are willing to actually learn a thing to implement your ideas, sure.Blog posting about your epic original stuff is useless, because every fan can write a book on elder scrolls at this point
Tbh I don't think the aesthetic of TR is much different from vanilla, even considering the size. Just install BCoM to improve the vanilla cities
>>746090074Almost 10 years of Hlaalu wank is finally coming to an end.
>>746098810>just use a mod to turn vanilla cities into bloated garbage
>>746098459>it was caused by using the Morrowind Code Patch option to zoom out the map so it could show the mainland and then saving the gameThat was the reason.I still dont understand why blue grid lines appeared though. And funny thing is that grid only covered vanilla portion/size of the map, not TR bits to the east or south.>Are the location markers duplicated at a smaller size too?No. Shaders over the map (when you visit cell) were messed up a bit.
>>746099004I said use BCoM not WCoM
>>746095346There's a smuggler questline mod but it's kind of short and underwhelming, it's the one with that Balmora orc woman
>Aimrah>need to pass a personality check to get ambushed>the only alternative is the quest getting brickedthis mod is bunk
>>746098126You aren't supposed to do everything on one character
>>746099036Hey, at least you didn't use the Show Travel Lines command too and ended with the map crossed by bright yellow and red lines, like me. But as I said, if you have an older save you can fix it.
>>746098153Actually a lot are saying TR cities are too big and full of filler buildings and NPCs. Ideal is to have one clerk in the House Council Hall, not a separate clerk building full of generic clerks. At least half the devs worship vanilla.
>>746099004>MK concept art is bloat
>play Morrowind a few years ago because a former friend gifted it to me and kept urging me to play it>he insisted that I download Tamriel Rebuilt and almost guilted me into dling it, so I did >started off kind of meh, graphics clearly aged>but interesting enough, hadn't ever played Skyrim or anything>wanted to explore the starting city and the island I started on>he kept insisting that I go to the mainland, where the mod content was>threw a complete melty when I finally told him dude, I just want to check the game out and don't really care about the mod>ended up losing the friendship over itWhy do TR players fucking REQUIRE you to play in their special little sandbox?
>>746099718now post a video showing balmora's layout
>>746099772I only have this picture. OpenMW screenshot btw not sure if that matters.
>>746099741Idk it seems like you are both mentally ill and has nothing to do with morrowind or TR
>>746099970how tf do the niggas in the middle get to they house
>>746099970Damn, why do some fags insist newbs try MWSE bullshit when OpenMW looks this fucking good.
>>746100091Passwall
>>746100026>you need to play mod material before trying the base gameTRfags are literally insane
>>746099741Your friend was a retard
>>746098881Yeah, Hlaalu are my least favourite House.>TelvanniInsane wizards who live in giant mushrooms and want to be left alone. May or may not even notice or care about the villages surrounding their towers.>RedoranAssholes, but noble. They're cool warriors who value honour and working for your community, if you're a native Dunmer these are the most based guys to be around, and if you're an Outlander who isn't a prick they might grow to like you.>HlaaluThey're all corrupt, thieves, or murderers. They're in bed with the Dark Elven Mafia, the Camonna Tong, and they're just a bunch of rich assholes out to fuck everyone else over.I can only see a villain character working with them so I never join them. I'm looking forward to the Telvanni rework the most.
>>746089206Shut the fuck up
>>746100123You know that's not a screenshot... right?It's hard to tell with some of you people.
Any fixes for all the purple plants in Poison Song?
>>746100612it's a missing texture so you fucked something up
>>746099245Dont tell me what i can and cannot do.>>746099371I'll see if it works sometime later.
Do PC and SHOTN need to be updated to the latest version of Tamriel_Data? Should I wait if I want to start a playthrough with all three?
>>746088919It's insane how much content this has, and it's only 2/3rds done.
Morrowind is comfy and I want to live there
>>746099741I can confirm, I was the friend
>>746090880I like them, even for the times where I have a quest mod without it does not feel weird. Ofc they are not perfect but it can be pretty nice having a voice following along as you read.
>>746097538We need more sloads.
>>746100612this is what the mod looks like..? jfc
>>746089167>Old Ebonheart>there's a knight that going to participate in a tourmate, but no one has heard of him before>tourmate organizer is suspicious as fuck about this knight and want us to find out who the fuck this "knight" really is>confront knight>knight tells us he's famous in High Rock because he managed to kill a minotaur after repealing it's attack with a simple wooden shield>go back to tourmate organizer with this info>tourmate organizer calls bullshit and tells us to go to the High Rock mission and ask around about the knight. if he's as famous as he says he is, then the Bretons there should know him>go to the High Rock mission and as a few folks there about the knight>most of the people I talked to never heard of this knight, but one lady says his story sounds like a old fairytale, and I should go to the local bookstore in order to get the book containing this story>go to the bookstore, and would you look at that, there's a book detailing the exact same story the "knight" told>determine the "knight" is larpping just so he can enter the tourmate>go back to the tourmate grounds and confront the "knight" with the book>knight asks to read the book, and I let him>bro has a full on mental breakdown and turns to dust right in front of my eyes, leaving behind his shield>turns out the knight wasn't a faker, but was somehow a physical manifestation of the fairytale and reading the book cause him to fucking zero-sumNot gonna lie, I felt kinda bad for the knight at the end, but at least I got a cool shield in return.
Real question thinking across all modern TES titles: What makes a quest "good"?I'm not asking "name some good quests", but what are the principal mechanics that makes some quests better than others? If we had to distill what is actually working, what are the main tenants of good quest design vs. poor quest design?
>>746100612dunmer be like>mmm tasty purple-weed my favorite, and it only takes my 46 slaves just five months to pick them
Does this update add any new Ordinator armor for the Ordinator faction?
>>746101226So the devs copied Dunk & Egg with a tweest + made an elaborate fetch quest?
One thing I think TR and PT fuck up is that their cities are too dense. In vanilla morrowind, several towns are actually kind of spread out. Sadrith Mora is a good example. Not every building is connected to every other. But in TR, every single city is essentially one giant connected superstructure.
>>746101253Cinematics and choreography. A good quest will have it. A bad quest will be just words-words-words.
>>746096195Terrible opinion
>>746095963Why wouldn't the biggest port in Cyrodiil the biggest province with the biggest population and capital of the entire Empire be larger than some random religious backwater town ruled by a seething hermaphrodite? Use your brain fucker.
>>746101253A good quest is all about what the player does, and what they discover about the world. Story of God vs. story of a dog and all that.
>>746100839Apparently they should be updated in a few days. Should be fine to start now as long as you avoid going to Cyrodiil or Skyrim before the update though
>>746100612you did update your Tamriel Data mod, not just Tamriel Rebuilt, right?
>>746099741Yes I'm sure that really happened and is how ALL TR players are, you hyperbole spouting sperg.
>>746089779Not every zone is created equal though, a lot of those cities are smaller and the regions wilder so it's just more wilderness (which is faster to develop than mega cities.)
Someone give me an idea of what kind of character to play. I usually end up making a generic mage or alchemist but having FOMO about other playstyles. What's the most fun I can have for a first playthrough in TR?
>>746101253Two questions I guess. Does it have a good narrative? Does it tell you something new and interesting about the world? That's all which matters to me. I like quests which also recontextualize gameplay, like a ring you looted, but it's cursed, now you're forced on a quest to return it. Or a horror quest, where your combat skills don't help you.
>>746099741This nigga writing fanfiction again
>>746101919some people want to RP in a video game, some people want to RP in /v/ morrowind threads
>>746096974Holy! Gimme the mod
>>746101810Khajiit concubine turned spy/thief
>>746101810An Imperial Knight by the name of Frederic the Lionguilded, who is honorable and brave and wishes to uphold the values of Imperial tradition; but where he tries to do good, so too is he unwilling to bend and is rigid in his thinking. Lawful to the teeth, he would condemn a thief who stole a loaf of bread to severe punishment, for he believes in the broken-windows theory of crime in that every small act contributes to the lawlessness and breakdown of order in society.
>>746101468Some of the TR devs do seem to have a bad habbit of lifting quest ideas from tv & movies.
>>7461012531. Quest giver has a hidden that is slowly revealed through hints as you progress through the quest chain2. The quest requires you to learn lore of the world3. The quest provides satisfying paths for warrior, mage, thief, and pacifist all to complete it, even if some paths are more difficult4. The quest involves unique assets, whether its armor/weapons, enemies, location, or even misc items or alchemy ingrediants. Just something that you interact with where you say "I haven't seen this asset before"
>>746101523Low IQ opinion
>>746101468I don't know what the plot of Dunk & Egg actually is but the original idea would be from Don Quixote.
>>746102004I mean, one of the most beloved characters in the mod is Mr. House but magic.
>>746101810I like playing a summoner/enchanter in Morrowind because combat is kinda ass, but there is a big variety of summons, especially in TR. Its fun enchanting gear with various summons.
>>746101810Jump man.>Spears>Medium Armor>Alteration>prodigiously use jump/slowfall/levitation>enchant all armor pieces with jump>hop over faggots and spear them
>>746089206Based, you made the discord seethe
>>746102072>Don Quixote>some old spanish bookWait, so GRRM fucking lifted from some foreign shit?
Do we know who designed this armor and where they are now? It would be hard for me to believe whoever designed some of the better Morrowind armors like this or the Daedric armor is still at Bethesda, given how dogshit their designs have been since Skyrim.
>>746102072That quest doesn't sound anything like Don Quixote tho
>>746102004I feel like most games do this. For example Vice City is basically Scarface.
>>746101253I can't speak to other TES games as much but for morrowind, I feel it has to tell a good story. That's the most important thing. It doesn't have to be big or expansive but it should be interesting. Basically if you read an outline of the quest and it isn't interesting, the quest won't be interesting. Because Morrowind involves a lot of reading.Second most important thing, the player has to make the story. This doesn't contradict the first point. The events are written by the developers, but without the hero, there is no event. See the Morrowind introduction. This means the player generally shouldn't get railroaded too hard. If the quest is on the bigger side there should be options on how to complete it, or different outcomes if you fail or decide not to complete it on purpose. This also means it has to accommodate different player backgrounds etc. tl;dr The game reacts to what the player does. This is called "good gameplay"
>>746102379>It doesn't have to be big or expansive but it should be interesting.The best quests are the multi-layered ones that have meta-themes and surprise with a twist, such as that it was all dreamt up by an autistic boy, or a story in a novel, a dream, and such.
>>746088919>wanting to do the parts bordering skyrim, which we already have a game of>not the black marsh
>>746102321Don Quixote was a guy deluding himself into believing he's a great knight because he read too many tales about knights, the quest appears to be a similar case where a guy is pretending to be a knight from a book. I don't care if that was the idea btw, it sounds like a cool quest. I guess this is one of the new ones for the tournament.
>>746088985This doesn't look like Morrowind
>>746101810I have a problem where I tend to play some guy in armour with a longsword every time. It's just such an easy and default way to play.It doesn't help that stealth sucks so a thief isn't fun.
>>746102471Part of the Black Marsh border is already in the mod though
>>746101845You know, what's interesting about your answer is that it is pretty similar to Dan Harmon's story circle. Character has a need and goes on trials to obtain the ring. They pay a price because the ring is cursed, and when they return to baseline the character is changed. I guess good quests are good writing at the end of the day.
>>746102027This is a smart answer. Fighters Guild is a good example of point one, Temple a good example of point two. Another question is the value of special quest mechanics detached from regular gameplay. It can be flashier and mix things up, but can also just devolve into mindless press E to interact.
>>746102215Practically all of ASOIAF is just history trivia thrown in a blender, with some random fantasy and popculture ideas sprinkled in
>>746102525Anyone getting upset they saw a similar idea once before would be insane while playing the game set in Tatooine-Arrakis with the RuneQuest lore anyway.
>>746102471There's multiple people picking way at making lore and outright assets for Black Marsh right now.
Oh wait... is this the update where they revamped the Old Ebonheart Mages Guild? Please don't tell me they rewrite the Ghost in the Gem quest!
>>746102471
>>746102897It shrimply needs to look like picrel
>>746103103there better not be any liilmothiit faggots in there
just updated to OpenMW 0.52 bros
>>746103103if we get stormhold before 2035 I will eat my hat
>>746103103What happens here?
>>746103194It's got a dozen biomes just like every province.
>>746103103soon
>>746103281Pirates and a Reman ruin, evidently
>>746103281Pirates.
>>746103281that's the funslop containment thread
>>746103236They are extinct
>>746103281 Is that island even canon or just fan fic?
>>746103354Is there a cute Argonian mod?
>>746102567Yeah, it does. Look at that grid. Look at those squares.
>>746103251Ran looks really bad.
>>746103601Canon
>>746103601It's been on literally every single official map of Black Marsh going all the way back to Arena.
>>746103601It's been there since day 1
>>746102471We had glimpses of the Argonia mod. It looks awesome. They have Aztek pyramid dungeon sets made.
>>746102567Correct. That's Kallidar
>>746103336What's the Argonian capital supposed to be?
>>746103749Someone will swallow this bait won't they
>>746103783Soulrest, Imperial colonial capital.
>>746103812He can't even spell 'Aztec' right.
I am still seething that PT and SHOTN decided to start on the West instead of East. If they started on the East, we could have a continuous map between the 3 projects like next year or two. As it stands now, the world map will have a giant ocean in the center for decades.
>>746103996counterpoint Anvil is cool
I saw a glimpse of this map outlining the new cities that the modders created, and I literally couldn't believe what I was seeing. I've made my own fantasy worlds, have for years- I'm an adult in my thirties. I took a class on city design. Cities are built along waterways almost always, except a very rare occasions. Yet, seeing this map, it took me about two seconds to spot dozens of illogical cities littered all over the map. WHY DO THESE PLACES EXIST WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED? IT MAKES LITERALLY NO FUCKING SENSE. This is the problem with modders having no common sense in how cities are formed and where they're formed; instead, they're just designing fake fantasy maps with no education and not even bothering trying to learn logical city placement. Do they even think about how the logistics work in the country they're crafting? Do they think about the transportation of goods? Apparently not. I've circled the illogical cities on the map, though I probably didn't catch all of them.
>>746104103Damn, that's crazy.
>>746103783The Imperial capital is Soulrest, each semiindependent Argonian coalition has its own "capital", and i think PTR wants to have Helstrom be an Argonian holy city like Beyond Skyrim and ESO do
>>746104058Counterpoint: Goldstone fucking sucks
>>746104103like half of the shit you circled is either forts or nomadic desert tribe camps
>>746103996PT and TR didn't start out as friends, which is why this happened. Now every future province is started from a shared border though, so the in-progress High Rock and Hammerfell mods border Skyrim (and Hammerfell) and Cyrodiil, respective, and when Black Marsh happens it's going to start around its border with Morrowind.
>>746104371Why are there forts protecting nothing and in the middle of nowhere? Why are there tribe camps in the middle of nowhere?
>>746104103they get water by squeezing giant insect juice, libtard
>>746104103I think the TR devs have a better grasp on worldbuilding than you do because they've actually made and published content that people consume
at least he's being slightly more creative with this one
>>746104103You know you can just add places to where you want them? Just open Creation Kit and go at it.
>>746103996It's unfortunate, but that's exactly why they did it. When PC and SHOTN started, TR still kind of implicitly had the mandate to create those areas in the eyes of the community, and was also infamously unstable and belligerent. They would have interfered constantly if the new projects had started on the border with Morrowind. Starting in the far west was a tactic to delay having to directly deal with TR for as long as possible.
>>746104452>Why are there forts protecting nothing and in the middle of nowhere?Both of them are border passes and one also guards a major trade road (the purple line on the map) while the othet is in charge of guarding a particularly problematic frontier likely plagued by retaliatory banditry and the illegal slave trade>Why are there tribe camps in the middle of nowhere?Because they live there
>>746102260>since SkyrimYou mean since Oblivion? 9/10 sets in that game are real stinkers.
switched to openmw because it takes 10 minutes to load the game on mwse when i install TR
>>746089728What is he appeal of Steins;Gate, I dropped that shit after hours of the story going absolutely nowhere.
>>746102260Pretty sure it was just Kirkbride's art
>>746089152>aesthetic cohesion is... LE BAD!!!why are weebs like this? explain yourself, please.
>>746090343It's not incredibly fast. Mod was actually 95% finished (except quests) in 2012 before this current cabal scrapped everything post-Necrom.>>746092632Can I restore paperdoll? I don't want this real time animated BS.>>746096006What's that island at the very top?
>>746089314literal actual skill issue.
>Poison Song is out>No one has any stories to tell
>>746104664>Because they live thereYou can't just hand-wave the location of any slop city by saying "the city exists because the people live there lol." It doesn't work like that.
>>746105175then just don't get the animation mod or the unpausing onefor inventory extender for now it's impossible to recreate paperdoll, lua too hard or something
>>746105138To me it just kind of highlights why it's a dumb idea to have an actual whole continent as a game and why Bethesda know better than to do it.
>>746105224the discord fans are too busy attacking anyone questioning their mod to actually play it and post about it
>>746104103Your city design class sucked.Cities are not just based on things that can be seen on a map. They are based upon WaterTrade routesMilitary positionsNatural Resources such as minesOld cities based on locations that no longer are optimal but still have large populationsReligionEtc etc etc.You should take a few more classes
Guys. Should I steal it?
>>746105224It's a high level area and this came out two days ago.It's a mod that needs new characters every update. Give it time.
>>746104759Weebs are easily impressed by that sort of pedestrian garbage, don't think too much of it
>>746104103>WHY DO THESE PLACES EXIST WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED?because they existed when Bethesda put them there and the mod expands on canon.and you have circled only one single settlement that might be considered a city.
>>746105340my wife won't like this
>>746105245Those are camps belonging to nomadic desert tribes who live in the desert and are able to do so in virtue of getting their subsistence from herding and teadeThat's like asking "but WHY does that Berber tribe live in the desert?" Because they fucking can, simple as that
>>746105319You realize how I didn't circle Uddanu at the bottom middle/slightly left? I didn't because it clearly has MINE next to it, so it makes sense that a semblance of a small town would exist there. I know logical placement of cities. And this map isn't it.
>>746105175It was 95% done without any standards or quality control or coordination or quests
>>746105224I'm more busy modding my game. And waiting a bit before playing it.
>>746105224Am I the only one who thinks the Ordinators quest line feels like your character got cancer and the Make-a-wish foundation arranged for you to be an Ordinator for the day? That quest where you say "You're wearing the sacred armor of our order" when you catch some khajiggers stealing Indoril armor is so corny. I really liked the Indoril quests but the Ordinator quest line, particularly the Order of the Watch is pretty weak. Gotta admit, it felt good to kill that wood elf fuck in Almas Thirr though
>>746104567I'm starting to believe in the "scorned ideas guy" backstory now, his posts really sound like one of those autists who want to direct everything but not do any work. Even if he's trolling the style is too authentic to be faked.
>>746105224Sorry, I was playing Enderal and Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos instead. They're more kino.
>>746090562at that point you might as well just console command yourself. why waste your fucking time?
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>>746105224At least half the people in this thread are waiting for other mods to update before they make real characters to play it. Then, when mods and modlists catch up in the next couple of weeks, half of those new characters are going to get distracted in other lands before even reaching the new areas. Such is life for every TR update. If you want stories so badly, there's nothing stopping you from playing and sharing them. It's not anyone's job here to convince you to play a free mod for a 25 year old game.
>>746105670Watch out nigga! that freak is gonna pick your pockets!
>>746105670DAMN DANIEL
>>746105426There are a lot of places that have religious or historical significance too or because the conditions aligned for it(there are a lot of natural disasters and stuff)
>>746105426You picked one of the multiple reasons I picked.Also the map is based on Arena so who cares.
>>746105679I started a new character to join House Indoril, decided to do some mages guild stuff at the beginning and now im doing all the mages guild quests i missed before
>>746105224I'm waiting for PT to update for Tamriel_Data
>>746104103Locations on my maps are place deliberately to make my nerd retard friends mald and write essays how my world sucks after every odd DnD session. Most of them have reason to be there, others are in "nonsense" location.They seethe still, after 20+ years of playing, it's very funny.
>>746105670The famed Dwemer Sneakers of Dwemer Sneakers O'Toole
>>746104103>I'm an adult in my thirties. I took a class on city design.
The guy sperging over Tamriel Rebuilt reminds me of that dude that was kicked out of their Discord and started a hate campaign against them
>>746104103You know most of the cities are placed by bethesda
>install openmw and TR>coc narsis>40fps
>>746105995just tell the autist YOU TOOK A CLASS IN CITY DESIGN every time he posts
>>746104103based, the discordfags didnt like this
>>746105224nigger it's day 2
>>746106028If you're playing at high view distance try to install the occulsion culling build of OpenMWhttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59700Or this modhttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59668Or both!
https://youtu.be/m1YWbdZMZoY
>>746106028his PC can't run morrowind lol
>>746104103Need this post read in Fargoth's voice.
>>746105592Weak bait
>>746105592Thoughts on Myar Aranath?
>>746106028Install the NEMAS modlist so that you can get 10 fps instead while not even being able to see the intensive textures because the entire screen is washed out with aggressive sun rays.
>>746106294He's right, though. Those are two of the greatest mods of all time. TR doesn't compare. It's just bloatslop.
TAMRUH
>>746106391Lmao, get real. Enderals writing is terrible, like most skyrim mods and Myrtana is more bloat that TR since they have pretty much no new assets and just made the base game longer.
>>746104103the only city you circled is Kragernmoor
>>746106391Isn't Enderal that game that opens up on that cringe edgeslop dream sequence about eating lots of meat and the plot is just Mass Effect repears all over again? I tried to get into it but it was just too cringe to me
>>746106585TR's writing is not any better than Enderal's, but at least Enderal's map design is immaculate.And you're genuinely the first person I've ever seen in all of /v/ say shit about Archolos. You get a contrarian badge for that.
>>746106585nta but Enderal has good writing
>>746106391Enderal is fucking shitArcholos is indeed much better than TR
>>746106585You didn't play Archolos
>>746106006It's the same guy who got his application rejected. I don't want to post his Discord name and start a witchhunt but it's bad.
>>746086246The quest line is very cool. I love unique new factions. The Syndicate is even more vicious than the Camonna Tong is and their quests were fine. Sometimes their leader seems a bit schizo though but maybe that is a feature. They got cool subversive quests in Narsis
Does anyone have a clue where the fuck the "March & Ellerian law offices" are? Doing the temple quest in Almas Thirr and the wiki page for this quest is really barebone and not helping much. >>746105224Currently to do the Almas Thirr/Bal Foyen Temple quest to get my character started before I'll do the new Temple/Indoril stuff
>>746106704Enderal's map is half empty and full of weird areas that feel like they were made by totally different teams. Wtf are you even talking about.
>Muh Enderal>Muh ArcholosMyar Aranath!
>>746106893Enderal's map is extremely tight and has pretty natural transitions between zones, I don't think you played the game.
>>746106885If I'm thinking of the right guys, they're in Old Ebonheart. They used to be the Barristers' Guild in previous versions.
>>746106585>more bloat that TR since they have pretty much no new assetsthis is such a modder way to think lmao
>>746106585>>746106893You have absolutely not played either of these mods, man. The jig is up.
>>746100091Mark and recall
>>746100091this is very much clearly modelled after what wealthy middle eastern bronze age city houses used to look like. domiciles for servants and slaves and other houses in the center
>>746100612If you're using graphic herbalism you need to do a thing to fix the plants iirc, I forget the specifics but if it's the same issue that's the direction you should be looking into.
>>746091257That's a Tiger Guar. They were mentioned in a few in-game texts, and TR has finally implemented them in game.
>>746100560did you know that being unable to discern obvious sarcasm from sincerity is a very common symptom of autism?
>>746107014snowy mountain right next to the desert what a natural transition
>>746106391>>746106704>>746107014>>746107080Is Nehrim as good as Enderal?
>>746107273better but way less polished, tonally v different + more high fantasy
>>746107265anon, you might be actually fucking retarded. are you unironically this culturally and geographically unaware, or...?
for me its the glup shitto expansion where you stop Umg Glyp from rising to power
>>746107273Enderal > Nehrim >>> Aranath > Arktwend
>>746107349I'd say the world design and dungeons are about on par, but it has a weaker story, characters, and the world is nowhere near as packed with stuff as Enderal.I'd still recommend it, both games are great
>>746101253Quests can be good in different ways, they can tell an interesting story or have a fun scenario with a few different paths, or they can just be a very simple task that you have a lot of freedom to approach how you see fit. The fire salts quest in skyrim gets referenced as an example of the latter sometimes, you're just told to get 10 fire salts for a guy's forge, but if you're low level and don't know the game inside out it's not trivial to do so and you need to figure out how to get them by yourself.
>>746107489All four are worth playing, though. But you might want to lower the difficulty and maybe even use console commands for Arktwend lol
modded skyrim > modded shitowind
>>746107265yeah that's what happens on almost any high enough mountain range. they create rain shadows, ie gather all the rainfall on the leeward side of the mountain and dehydrating anything downwind.
TR cities look so bad with the default view distance but enabling distant land completely kills the already bad performance do you really need recent hardware to play this shit
what the fuck did I just read?https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Data:Su-Diang_Qergo
>>746107265based enderal filtering this tr brainletkraut autism wins
>>746107554nta, but while i love morrowind mainly for its setting, aesthetic, lore, characters, etc. basically everything but its gameplay, i would love to see a more focused, small scale game in the Morrowind/TR TES era. an imsim where you play as a morag tong assassin exploring thief-like levels with some magic utility would be so sick
>>746102260The lead character artist was Christiane Meister (pic related, and yes she's a woman, just post menopausal). Not 100% sure if she was the one overseeing that aspect but it's my best guess.
>>746107608just get a shader that gives you nice fog effects that hides low draw distance in a more aesthetically pleasing fashion. would recommend rafaels shader pack on nexus
>>746107049Yeah, that seems to be it. Thanks!
What's with the weird anti-TR shitposting? It's always a really dumb reason that pivots to a new reason when the previous one doesn't take hold
>>746107608I don't know how some of you have such bad performance for a 20 year old game. I'm running on a 1660 and never have any severe graphical problems. Are you setting your distant terrain to 30 cells or something?
>>746107265bro is gonna freak when he learns about the entire region of central asia
>>746107630redguard anime
>>746107789there is a literal, unironic schizo who's latched onto these threads for a few months now.
>>746107789Some guy just posts bait and concern trolling and samefags with himself for hours. This type of shit will continue indefinitely on every thread on every board until mods finally add thread IDs
>>746107630It seems to be a Redguard being taught about the concept of cardinalities.
>>746107265You can always tell when someone's a European because they have no concept of geography that doesnt exist in their own retarded little country
>>746107789Some people don't have a hobby, happens on /tg/ all the fucking time.
>>746107349Neither of them are good just play Gothic instead
>>746107080Prove me wrong then. Gothic fags always hype that shit up when it's just a lesser gothic main quest. The pacing is ass and finding Jorn suck both as a plot and Jorn as a character.>>746107070If I wanted to paly base Gothic with nothing new I would just play.... you guessed it. Gothic!
>>746107630Finally some good fucking books from the TR team, most of the books are garbage
>>746106136What the fuck I thought this was abandoned.
>>746106554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4
>>746108267/tg/ is what happens when people think playing video games for 16 hours a day or watching 10+ seasonal anime is a hobby
>>746106136
>>746106136Feels less like "RTX On" and more like "I imported new assets for everything"Like why does the silver bowl change to gold, lol
>>746108742That must be what's happening, because they sure as fuck don't play Tabletop. They have more blueberry Tau pics than models.
>>746108746I have UE5slop fatigue
>>746108746piss filter: ON
>>746108715stop spamming this in every thread jesus christ we've already watched this shit
>>746107680>>746107014>>746105592>>746107489>>746107596Can the Skyrim fags fuck off back to their own hole. We get it, you have nothing of quality or fun to play but no need to come here and smear your shit.
>>746108982this is not UE5 but ok
>>746108961Oh nevermind for some reason my hungover ass read that as /vg/, yeah you're right the 40k threads are filled with no models no games secondaries. But it's also GW's worst game so who cares
>>746109109stop drinking bruh
>>746088919I modded a shopkeeper to sell things, but none of the items show up in their inventory, I dont understand this at all. Do you really have to place items in a container and confer ownership to make it show up in their inventory? that seems backwards.
>>746109076I was already here, people can like both things.
>>746107265bro I literally live in a place like this
>>746109316I never drink, last night was an exception
>>746105340Why bother? Leave vivec's cock on that pedestal, unless you intend to break it and give it back.Also, that dunmer chick has a good drip.
what's the best way to nerf and balance resting? survival mods are too tedious and bloated, should i jest get a no rest without beds mod?
>>746088919As an unc this is how I imagined Morrowins after Bethesda spent years pushing the release date back and somehow we only got a shitty island out of it.
Anyone here that uses the total overhaul modlist? Do you recomend it?
>>746109373ah, okay. then its alright :)
>>746109695no, those modlists are all fucking garbage. even the i <3 vanilla list has texture packs and some other shit that changes to game too muchit's literally "here's every mod that works in openmw"
>>746109853I heard it was carefully curated by morrowind enthusiasts and modders but idk
>>746109531It took me awhile to get Ves decked out in good equipment but I quite like it myself as well, thanks.
Is there a mod that adds seasons such as snow/winter yet? No? Then I shan't be playing.
>>746110471https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59115
i love immersionhttps://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59903
>>746110627Protip; he is still not going to play. He was looking for an excuse, now he'll just find another one.
>>746110471no need to act smug when it literally does exist, anon.
>>746107014There are three populated settlements in what's supposed to be a country, one of which is underground. I thought it was supposed to be post apocalyptic at first, but the the apocalypse is just starting.
>>746108746I wanna see how the original assets look with that lighting, not this shit.
>>746104103Let's look at vanilla Morrowind. The settlements not next to water are as follows.-Ashlander migrating camps. They follow and hunt wildlife(Mongols/Native Americans)-Caldera, a mining town.-Telvanni wizard towers. The classic fantasy trope of antisocial wizards in the middle of nowhere. However, the main Telvanni hub where they gather is on water.-Redoran towns supporting the warriors holding off the creatures spreading from Red Mountain.The Redoran and Telvanni towns might not be "realistic" by your definition, but they are fitting to a fantasy game that leans into fantasy tropes.Let's look at what you have circled.-Isolated wizard towers in the NE.-Akamora, Alavelis are mining towns.-A bunch of forts protecting the border.-Redoran settlements that support warriors fighting invading fantasy creatures.-Salvelis(too far from river.) I agee, but this isn't actually in the mod yet. Will probably be on the river when it's made.-Kragenmoor(river too small):I agree, but also not in the mod yet. Hopefully will change as it's developed.-Silnion and Rathendis. Undeveloped content not actually in the mod.Most of your criticisms don't hold up and are clearly ignorant of the unmodded game. The only "valid criticisms" are just references to future content. It also seems like you are confused on why a fantasy game might not be consistent with the city planning presented in an entry level college course.Fuck you for baiting me into wasting my time.
>>746111185>wtf why isnt the free fanmod hyper-realistic and true to scale!?!?!?!? i have never heard of the concept of a compressed scale in map design before!!!!!
>>746111479Morrowind and even Skyrim are compressed scale. Enderal is empty.
>>746111416but thats not what the point of RTX remix is.
>>746111570skyrim is much more compressed and content scarce than enderal. behold the grand metrolopis of pic related! one of the mightest cities of skyrim!!
>>746111584I don't care
I love playing Morrowind and Oblivion and Skyrim.
>>746111748ok. awesome.
>>746109695I used Morrowind starter pack from this site as a base, then slapped 50 content mods on it and a bunch of UI mods.Zero bugs or crashes, 2 weeks into this playthrough so far. I'm happy with the modpack.
>>746111705One of my favorite Skyrimisims is Lokir. He's with you on the cart and is killed by imperials, and if you go to Rorickstead nobody says anything about him. A town with four buildings and nobody cares what happened to one of the dozen people that lived there.
>>746109695i tried it out and wasn't a fan, but ymmv. Actually I don't have a paid nexusmods account so it took me hours to download and install only to play for like 15 minutes before deciding I didn't like it. it didn't run very well and while I am well aware this is the literal point, there was so much new shit everywhere it got rid of the comfy "morrowind I'm familiar with" vibe entirely. I'm gearing up for a TR playthrough (my first) and i'm going to hand pick a few mods and call it good. compartmentalizing all the new shit to actual new areas instead of stuffing it in and around the places I already know is more appealing to me
>>746109334You have to start a new game, or kill and resurrect them for their inventory to update
>>746111185nigger it's a free mod
I just did a big playthrough for Narsis so there's not really enough content for a new one so soon, especially with this just being Indoril's first release
>>746111185enderal is more about substance rather than just pure fluff. a foreign concept to a skybabby, i know.
>>746111185there are two other towns that got raped before the game starts
>>746109695It's great if you are lazy. I just finished a 60 hours run with it.
