Realistically, what will /v/ do when Steam stops supporting Windows 10?
install gentoo
Win 11 is barely any different
im still on 7 doe
Nigger I still don't use windows 10 nword. Nor steam you faggot kword. Nword>Why don't you want a slower systemBecause i'm not gay.>You forgot one nwordNigger please, oh shit you are correct nigger. Damn.
We are far, far, far beyond the point of diminishing returns in OS. Windows 20 will not be enough of an innovation on top of 10 to warrant dropping support, jeets and AI simply aren’t capable of that. The west will be an internetless powerless waterless African/Brazilian/Muslim wasteland by then anyway.
>>746102163>I don't use steam Yea we could tell you're brown and poor.
I could care less.
>>746101864If it wasn't for VR support I would still be on windows 7. Windows 10 is the end of the line though. I use 11 at work and it's fucking atrocious. I know linux isn't great but it's viable and if it gets VR support then I'm gone.Till then it's going to be windows 10 iot LTSC.
>>746102328Then why don't you?
>>746101864I already switched to Linux back when Win10 first came out.
I automatically assume that anyone on 4chan who hasn't moved to Linux yet is someone who still needs Photoshop to make blacked edits
>>746101864I swapped to Linux years ago.
>>74610186411 is just better 10Not that 10 was ever good but you have no reason to cry about this if you're still using microslop anywaysW7 was amazing though
>>746101864steam still works on 7
>>746101864Daddy gayben would never do that
>>746102298The majority of steam users are third world shitskins thoughbeit
>>746101864why would I use steam?
>>746102163Tell me you’re poor without telling me you’re poor
This year was the last year I used Windows 7.It's been painful so far, but I'm slowly getting used to Linux.
I decided to switch to GOG.Now, all mai gaymes will work until the end of time.
Is Windows even useful? Linux plays games and does IT work.>Bbbut muh anti cheat multiplayer slopDon't reply to my posts if your entertainment requires you to interact with tards online.
>>746102678>11 is just better 10what are your reasons for that opinion?
>>746101864Continue to pirate everything?
Just use Linux. Stop being retarded. Windows is jeetdows and it fuckign sucks.You literally have no excuse if youre job doesn't require a windows only app
>>746101864Linux
>>746102925he's indian
>>746101864I've been on linux for 4 years now, not looking back
>>746101864ill be joining the masterrace
>>7461018647 to 10 was not that bad at all 10 to 11 is like pulling teeth
>>746101864I already started dual-booting when software stopped supporting XP, 7 was the last Windows I used in earnest.
>>746102047Because of this, I never got in when people act that W10 is fine and W11 is literally Hitler. There are tons of reasons to hate modern Windows, fuck, I’ve too thought about moving to Linux, but realistically 10 is just as bad as 11 so if you can deal with 10, 11 isn’t really any worse.
>>746101864Steam OS
>>746101864Lil this Lil that
Steamsnoys are literal cultists. They'll do anything to please their Steam and Sony cult overlords.
>>746103560jews?
>>746102047Oh, you mean the OS that takes automatic screenshots of whatever you're looking at and sends them to an AI for "training purposes"
>>746102352>if it gets VR support then I'm gone.Depends on what headset you have, it's pretty decent already. Standalone units seem to fare better on Linux currently in my experience. My Rift CV1 is near unusable on Linux due to tracking jitter while my Quest 2 works maybe even better than on Windows thanks to WiVRn (albeitsd've setup took an hour or two troubleshooting and following the Linux VR adventures guide)
>>746102925Not him, but it finally has a compositor that actually works. I still left 11 because classic shell kept breaking every system update and I need my task bar to be on the side of the screen. Though apparently they finally added back that ability, but too little too late.
>>746103791Based
>>746101864just make a custom usb that allows you to skip all the online/ai bullshit with rufus and then run a debloat script to remove everything else, its not that hard
>>746104005I'll just install Linux and not jump all those hoops and still probably have Microslop spy on me
>>746104302nah not yet, especially since I have an nvidia gpu and im throwing performance away by switching, if I had an AMD card I probably would've switched already
>>746102096thisnot even using aero kek
>>746101864Isn't MS quietly still updating 10 because the switch to 11 has been such a disaster?
>>746101864>topThat's me and I installed Linux instead.>bottomCan't relate.
Reeks of India itt
>>746103703>you frogs were fine when the water was °10 colder, realistically staying in the pot doesn't make any difference
Me? I will download my game through steamcmd or switch to troonix, you better worry about yourself
>>746101864I already moved over to Linux three years ago lmao
>>746104760yep, one more year for everyone who got free extended updates, although they're keeping quiet about it this time. likely in hopes of getting a few people to jump ship not knowing the ship's not sinking anymore.
>>746104889Indians own Microslop. They are the main reason why that OS is fucking dogshit.
>>746103847People who blatantly lie should be round up and shot in Minecraft.
>>746102901>Don't reply to my posts if your entertainment requires you to interact with tards online.That excludes everyone who uses 4chan
>>746104760More or less it doesn't help the biggest difference is the UI.
>>746101864can't wait until this meme gets updated when w12 comes out.
>>746103850I'm using a specialized chink headset for reasons... I would upgrade to a proper one if any of them were good, but they are not. I have a quest 2 and I feel like killing myself after 20 minutes because of how fucking heavy it is, I'm not getting another stand alone piece of shit. PSVR2 looks interesting but the resolution would be a downgrade and the retarded controllers can't be used with a gun stock.
>>746105135>implying microshaft will still be around to release W12lole
still waiting for the w11 iot ltsc 2027
This is not videogames.Fuck off back to /g/.
Don't worry gang.Windows 12 will be good.Nah, I'm worried that it won't.
>>746105006kill yourself in real life
>>746104603Windows 7 was comfy, I miss it so much.
Where can I find a clean install? Of all things to pirate on the internet Windows seems to be the most surefire way to get a trojan.
>>746101864My next computer will be running linux, so realistically I will avoid windows 11 by no longer using windows fullstop.
>>746105538>Where can I find a clean install?https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-mediait also has legit activation scripts, ur welcome
>>746101864win10 ltsc gets security updates to 2032. if steamos is not a consumer-grade system by then it's valve's fault
Linux fags WILL always dodge this question
>>746105723The answer is pretty obvious and should not have to be spelled out to you.
>>746105176>I have a quest 2 and I feel like killing myself after 20 minutes because of how fucking heavy it isiktfHopefully the Steam Frame gives Linux VR enough momentum for the chinks to take it seriously. Provided the Frame doesn't turn into vaporware.
>>746105691Thank you anon.
CachyOS MintPopFedoraKill yourself if you are using windows. Kill yourself if you have nostalgia for windows 7 , the cancer OS that started the downward spiral of making the OS more mobile-like. Subhuman garbage.
>>746105723keep saying it
>>746101864already on bazzite, so it's no problem lmao get fucked windorks
>>746101864linux, next question
>>746101864Windows 10 was so fuckign bad I switched to Linux. And 11 is fucking worse if my work PC is anything to go by
>>746105406No. You are the one spreading lies like an 80 IQ redneck.
>>746102047It's even more bloated and eats up even more resources, making low-end computers virtually unusable.
>>746105723Same reason people drink the garbage known as coca cola. Brand recognition.
I go back to hercules
>>746105006And raped, too. In Minecraft, of course, which wouldn't be illegal.
Someone should make a meme like that picture where the guy looks at another woman while walking with his girlfriend, make it where Windows is an attractive white female that slowly transforms into an ugly pajeet and the user looks at the sexy Linux walking by
>>746101864Windows 10 reached its official end of support on October 14, 2025
>>746101864Switching to Linux. Most of the stuffs works out of the box, based on my live linux experience. Lots of my games are platinum or gold rated on ProtonDB. GOG and Epic will deploy Linux versions of their store fronts.I did want to buy a 2TB SSD to put my current steam games and ROMs over to a fresh drive formatted for linux usage and reformat my current SSD, because my internet speed suck ass.I do try one last improvements on my life, hit a job, get a starlink and maybe not giving a fuck and reformat everything with save files backed up on an usb drive.
>>746101864Make my dual boot of win7 and win10 into triple boot with arch linux or w/e distro that steam supports best
>>746102901You are definitely a tranny
Is the Steam distro of Linux in a good state or should I go with something else?
>>746106396I am a developer. I tried to improve the situation on Linux a bit by making some software for it that I thought it was missing. Did you know that Linux has no way to read the clipboard? Or open a window? Or do a bunch of other obvious things that everyone takes for granted?Linux has no desktop API for programmers. If you want to do these things then you need to either program different implementations for 6000 different desktop configurations, or glue some giant bloated monstrosity like SDL into your program that does it for you. In either case it will probably not work for very long because Linux is a dynamically linked OS so when you update some random library, it may break every program that used it. Good luck vetting updates when the update manager slaps you with a list of 2000 mystery packages that have an update every week.Meanwhile on Windows, you can make a single 100kb .exe file that does everything you need and works on every version of Windows from the last 15 years and probably continues to work 15 years into the future.
kinda obvious
>>746102047It breaks every second week, it has ai slop, ads, bloatware, jest shit coding, more ram and vram usage, games run worse by default. No thanks it's win10 but shit tier.
>>746101864Win7 become useless when win8 come out and got updated for few years it had better performance in games and with 8.1 was and still are the smoothest os to date with fastest boot time and opening programs
>>746102047>windows 11 isn't so different.Has issues running the lightest games.
>>746107289>Meanwhile on Windows, you can make a single 100kb .exe file that does everything you need and works on every version of Windows from the last 15 years and probably continues to work 15 years into the future.I know a lot less about computers than you do obviously, but is that not why executables on windows are huge fucking security risks and the entire reason why linux doesnt just let you have so much control over the operating system?
>>746107289>windows pushes update when you are in a hurry>the update wipes your hard drive because you didn't back up everything on onedrive and pay microslop for itJust windows things
Windows has been shit since 2003You spend 40 minutes when you set up a new PC to rip all the gay retarded shit out from the registry and go on with your life
>>746107746The worst part is that even after you do that, there is a decent change that every single update will either add new shit you have to rip out or undo all of your changes because fundamentally the OS has an antagonistic view towards people who value their privacy and autonomy.
>>746107547How poor are you that your PC is that shit?
>>746107286SteamOS is good for a PC intended for use as a console and if it has an AMD GPU.For general desktop use, Fedora and CachyOS are more fitting choices.
>>746107746>You spend 40 minuteslol, if onlyif this is your complaint than Windows must be great. Linuxfags will meanwhile tell to compile your own mouse driver
I don't use windows so nothing
>>746107935this does not happen unless you have like a super fucking rare mouse.
>>746102047>GarudaOS >Bazzite>CachyOS>SteamOSAll valid alternatives, Linux Mint if you're a Normie.
>>746108079I might try Fedora as a daily driver.
>>746107289You make it sound like it's literally impossible to create software that runs on Linux. I wonder how people made Blender or Unreal Engine run natively. Must be some kind of magic.
>>746107570Linux is "secure" as a desktop OS because hardly anyone uses Linux as a desktop OS, it's a waste of time to make malware for it. There's plenty of security vulnerabilities on Linux servers though, because that's where most Linux users and extractable value is.
>>746108141fedora is great, highly recommend KDE over gnome. been daily driving it now for almost a year and have never once considered going back to fucking windows. all of my games work flawlessly except for a few japanese rpgmaker games and darksiders warmastered which needs some weird ass codecs installed to get the video files to play. but protondb is amazing for shit like that
>>746107289Like I said brand recognition. Windows constantly shits out useless fucking updates 24/7 and has 10 times as many security issues.
>>746108247[laughs in AUR malware]>>746108290>all of my games work flawlessly except for a few japanese rpgmaker games and darksiders warmastered which needs some weird ass codecs installed to get the video files to play. but protondb is amazing for shit like thatDoesn't ProtonGE take care of that?
>>746108247I cant tell if you are being purposely disingenous or are straight up retarded and illiterate. Your post has nothing to do with why executable on windows are so dangerous to the operating system and why linux does not let you do that kind of thing.Literally everyone and their mom will always tell you to never just run a fucking executable you download off the internet. Who do you think you are fooling?
Kinda wanna give win7 a try again
>>746108216Then you need to clean your ears because I even gave 2 ways to do it, point being that both are fucking stupid and that making software for Windows is a vastly superior experience.
>>746101864nothing because games will be dead by then and PCs won't be built they will be by subscription
>>746101864Probably install windows 11 and cry when windows 12 comes out
>>746108370>Doesn't ProtonGE take care of that?protonGE did not fix darksiders warmastered but it wasnt hard to follow the commands to install the codecs with protontricks. Overall, ProtonGE and DWproton work for like 99.9% of games i have tried
>>746102298good goy
>>746102047>slightly more inconvenient UI Otherwise I agree. I’ve noticed basically 0 changes.
>>746108406If you download a program on Linux and it tells you that it needs permission to run, are you going to say no? No, you're going to let the program you wanted to run do it's thing. Also the whole OS is designed to condition you to just type sudo when you do anything and not think about it because you can't do anything without it.
>>746108491Sweet. Yeah, it's definitely tempting. I'm looking at a 9800x3d and a 9070XT.What are the tools like for frame rate capping? Does OptiScaler work to force framegen/FSR, or is there an equivalent?
>>746108434Kek clapped his ass.
>>746108731>Does OptiScaler work to force framegen/FSRYes, I use GOverlay to configure it.
>>746108593So it's objectively worse
>>746101864>what will /v/ do when Steam stops supporting Windows 10?Suffer. I installed 11 on my laptop, and it's absolute fucking jeet developed dogshit.
>>746108705>are you going to say no?A program? Do you mean an executable? No. I dont let it have access. Appimages can easily have their permissions managed and so can flatpaks. I use those for any "applications" and almost never ever use executables unless compiling them myself for this very reason. You are retarded and think everyone is as retarded as you.
>>746101864This image would be accurate if it's only staying with 10 to avoid 11.
>>746108993>>746108705also i never use sudo except to install or update through DNF, which is fedora's package manager, which are all signed and monitored by fedora/redhat, which is WAY more fucking secure than whatever the fuck you are doing lol.
>>746108887Sure I guess, except for the part where W10 doesn’t have support and W11 does.
>>746108993Yeah, and you can just click "no" when windows pops up the warning screen for unknown executables. The problem is that Windows has far more software that people want to run, and not everything is going to be distributed in your personally preferred way.
>>746101864I still fucking hate Windows 10 because it's ugly and I constantly have to wrangle it at gunpoint to not get in my way. I fucking wish I could go back to Windows 7.>Steam stops supporting Windows 10?Why would Steam stop supporting Windows 10 if the underlying architecture is exactly the fucking same as Windows 11? They just changed a number.
>>746109254What support does 10 not have?
>>746109285So we get all the way back to the crux of your argument, which is that on windows you want your executable to have access to everything, but you seem to think people should just deny your executable access to any of this because executables from people like you cant be trusted unless you are posting the full source code and letting people compile it themselves to verify. Thank you for defeating yourself.
>>746102352I have a vive, and it is a glorified Beat Saber mask, but that works without a hitch, even on the pretty bad specs of my living room PC (Bazzite)Haven't tried on my Desktop/Laptop (NixOS). It might be a pain to set up there.
>>746102925Also not him, but there are a bunch of reasons why that is the case. For example, the Windows 11 CPU scheduler is way better, specially when you're dealing with Intel meme cores. Windows 11 has better package manager and command line tools too. Also I don't know if this is actually the case since it has been a year since I last used Windows but I heard Windows 11 also has better performance for nvme drives.They are still both turbo ass compared to everything that came before Windows 8.
>>746109332The reason Steam dropped support for Windows 7 is because Steam is effectively built on top of google chrome. Chrome dropped support for Windows 7 so Steam had no choice in the matter. Chrome probably dropped support because 7 didn't have some security features that were added to newer versions of windows, or because Microsoft's program building tools use newer APIs that are not on Windows 7 so even the same identical program will stop working on 7 if you update your build tools. The same can easily happen to 10.>inb4 hurr durr chromium is not chromeNobody cares nerd.
>>746109538>Windows 11 CPU scheduler is way betterbetter than linux's?
>>746103847Finally, a genuine reason to browse /v/!
>>746109595I wouldn't use chromium at all because it doesn't have uBlock. I use Floorp instead.
>>746104927yeah?the boiling point has long been surpassed
>>746109625No. Better than Windows 10s.
>>746109489Now you're just hallucinating arguments out of nothing. Talk to me again later when you're not on drugs.
>>746103703The only voice of reason ITT. Everyone who btiches and moans about how bad 11 is while simultaneously acting like 10 was oh so much better is a mouth breathing mongoloid. The scariest part is the new, shitter UI. Under the hood it's the same guts as 10, with a few improvements like better HDR support, better flip model support, and *marginally* better gaming performance.All it is is that it's very trendy to hate on everything Microsoft does nowadays.
>>746108880Thanks!How does DOSBox perform? I like GoG stuff sometimes.
It only takes an hour to rape 11 into submission dough
>>746107570Yes and no, old software just read and write directly in the OS memory to fuck with it but that's mostly been patched even if devs cried about it.And then you have Linux that essentially come with 2 modes>You own nothing>You own everythingLinux is a nightmare of security because you basically always have to use admin rights for everything. Linux give you much, much more control over the OS and if any of the 4 trillion always online dependencies get hacked and upload a virus it will fuck your OS instantly.Windows has a ton more guard rails so you can't just do>sudo rm -rf /and delete your entire PC
>>746110015And it only takes one update to revert all your changes
>>746101864The normalfags will eat the shit and upgrade. The slightly smart ones will look to linux. The actual smart ones will make linux work without being bitchniggers about it.
>>746110232>Windows has a ton more guard railsThere's nothing stopping someone from making a distro with more guard rails. You also don't have to update as soon as an update drops, you can wait a month or two and see if anyone finds something wrong with it
>>746110382Crazy how that literally never happens on my machine. Like, never. Almost as if people repeating these claims don't use Windows themselves.
Why the fuck do I keep needing to have new operating system to double-click an icon on the desktop or run steam? Someone fucking explain this to me.
>>746110507Open source devs would rather laugh at people deleting their PC than fix anything for 30+ yearsAlways has been, always will be.
>>746107289Because you have competing distributions and window managers, linux is the kernel. On Jeetindows everything is a bloated cancerous monolith.
>>746101864I already took the bullet and got 11>Goycattle bloatYes, i am
>>746110232>Linux is a nightmare of security because you basically always have to use admin rights for everything.That's simply not true, there are very few things I've ever had to run as admin on Linux and every time I had to run something as admin there is a clear and understandable reason why I had to do it. All the software I use for personal purposes runs at normal user level.The complete opposite is the case on Windows. LITERALLY everything has that stupid fucking UAC shield on it and requires you to run as admin for absolutely no reason. Like why does a launcher for a video game require admin? IDK but it does. Why does a game mod manager require admin? IDK but it does. Why does an installer for a program I'm installing for "only my user" require admin when my user account isn't even admin? IDK but it does and it doesn't even install the program for my user lmao.Fucking hell Windows software is written by the dumbest monkeys on the planet I swear.
>>746110746Microslop needs more money to feed the AI bubble
>>746111537>Game ask for admin rights>Say no>Game still launchDon't worry though, if linux gets big they'll do the same thing there because it's just easier
i reluctantly moved to 10 because microsoft promised it would be the final version and that they'd move to rolling releases. switched to linux permanently when windows 11 was announced.
>>746110903If we see a decent interest and uptick in Linux use there will be devs who want to capitalize on these people. Making a Linux distro that is "windows" without all the bad shit could easily end up as the most popular OS. Normies don't care about what their OS is, they only care that it works and is familiar to them
>>746111794Well, Microsoft is one of the biggest contributor of Linux so maybe you're right and it will happen.And it will be fucking hilarious.
>>746111758>Game still launchI was with you until that part. In fact, the funniest situation was when I had one of those games that required admin for no reason, it was bugged as fuck and didn't work even with admin password.I had to log out of my user account, log in on the admin account, run the game from there and only after I did that did it start working on my user account. It still threw tons of errors every launch.I can understand why Windows 11 doesn't even support non-admin accounts anymore.
>>746112098Software devs are just retarded man, I also had the opposite problem where it would crash if you said yesHell I have some fucking stupid expensive software that doesn't work with UAC, you need to log in your admin account to get it to work because the hardcoded the user name.Reminds me of how almost every burger software still use ASCII instead of UTF-8
>>746102047a man desensitized to the overwhelming scent of MS cock
>>746106426>not even using a hercules graphics adapter
When I install linux, what type of curry should I be eating?
>>746101864nothing because i already switched to linux
>>746113160Japanese curry
>>746113432GIMP is just as good as Photoshop, sweaty. :3
>>746113432What didn't work on your machine?
>>746113586Games that are sour anyway.
>>746102352>if it gets VR support then I'm gonequest3 works perfect with alvr, both cable and wireless
>>746108290>all of my games work flawlessly except for a few japanese rpgmaker gamesthose are some of my favorite types of games, do they really not work on linux? im reconsidering my switch now
>>746105723>>746105767No need to dodge:>you drop a normie into a bash terminal and they're basically in a self-defense situationAnd the standard interface for everything outside the terminal is kinda dogshitIt's getting better now that people can just tell their AI to figure all the "weird stuff" out as needed, so focus is correctly shifting to userland on any distro that sees where the ball is moving, but this is a new phenomenon, and linux users who self-deluded into thinking it was good otherwise, were very confused people.
>>746102047tech illiterate
>>746102242>diminishing returnsIt's been downgrade after downgrade from Windows 8 onwards. 7 was the last proper Windows with a major improvement, that being optimization and full support for 64 bit as opposed to a half-assed aferthought which was the case for XP (there was also Vista, which we don't talk about).From 8 on we have worse and worse UI, worse and worse optimization, more and more spying, more and more bloat. Literally every Windows is worse than the last by a very considerable margin after 8. OP's picture is right, in the sense that no matter how much of a steaming turd Windows 10 is, 11 makes it look good.
>>746101864I'm already dual booting Linux, barely log into W10 anymore.
>>746101864If you condoned microsoft using literal malware tactics to trick people off of w7 and into installing w10, then you'll be right at home on w11.Anyone who won't cuck and cave is already using linux.
>>746107812How retarded are you that you just give your hardware away so Microsoft can gape your asshole?
>>746113967yeah, that's the problem with troonix, it works flawlessly and without dicking around if you have the computing equivalent of a black-painted Ford 1. I'd like touchpad gestures on my laptop too, and I'm sure someone's implemented it, but it's far easier to just cope with the default.
>>746101864it works surprisingly well
>>746114343in hindsight Vista wasn't even that bad. what made it unfathomably terrible to every XP user, me included, was that it introduced local security. having to log into Administrator every single time you want to install anything sucked absolute dick. I also remember it being unstable, but nothing worse than the latest winslop.
>>746114465this, W10 was already literal ransomware/spyware and that's when I decided I would never personally use any windows past 8.1. W10 as is is just a terrible half-assed reskin of 8.1 with more ridiculous bullshit bolted on, less customization, more metro bullshit. probably the only thing that improved with 10 over 8.1 was powershell.
>>746113967>he bought a laptop
>>746115589it might work on troonix, but you either A) have to program it yourself B) try to find/adapt a solution yourself, which is Good Luck in the current situation of endless AIslop jeet search results. so no, it doesn't work, but I wouldn't expect microslop to not fuck it up either.the hacker mentality is a nice thing and all, but there's so much fucking shit you'd need to program yourself these days that you either are a NEET or have a dedicated team. what Terry did with TempleOS he managed only because he was a sped and decided to never implement a networking stack.
Dolly Parton is dead and you people are spitting on her grave recommending terrorist OSes like linux. Disgusting.
>>746102020HIGHLY overrated post
>>746103847windows 10?
>>746101864Photopea will datamine me if I ever go to linux
>>746102047It's a completely different number
>>746101864Steam stopped supporting Windows 7 when less than 1% of Steam's userbase was still using it. Windows 10 still has 23% user share, they're not dropping it anytime soon.
>>746119032They'll drop it when Google does. Chromium support is what they follow.
>>746119032Chrome*Steam never made the call.
>>746102047trvke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Px-rOzJ3s
>>746119296>>746119390Steam was on a long outdated Chromium version for so long just to keep Windows 7 support. If Chromium decides to drop Windows 10 support, Steam will stick with the last version to have that support for a while until they feel like they won't be screwing over a huge portion of their userbase.
>>746119830if only they had never switched to that horrible nodeslop client to begin with...
I usually think calling people virgins on the internet is retarded as most people have had sex by adulthood and could if they chose to but I'm pretty certain its accurate when it comes to people who play games on linux
>>746101864As someone who actually works, w11 and the whole office package are so fucking ass holy shot how can people even pay for thisShit literally bugs out every single god damn dayCan't fucking even transfer windows from a monitor to another without bugging outFuck jeetsFuck MicrosoftAnd holy shit fuck excel
>>746120117Have sex, incel.
>>746105367HOLY SEXOSAUCE A BROTHER UP, WILL YA?
>>746101864I dont use steam, drone
>>746101864>Realistically, what will /v/ do when Steam stops supporting Windows 10?steamOS
I dont even have steam installed
>>746103847>>746113137
>>746120853It's also kind of an embarassment for MS, and we're approaching 2 years later without it on x86-64 as they attempt to sweep it under the rug and forget it. I think Recall is pretty much dead now.
>>746102298NTA but I don't have issues running Steam on W7.
>>746102298Steam is bad for the industry thoughbeitPC gaming was at its best when it was completely decentralized. No need for this bullshit of achievements, profiles, cards, inventories. It's all horseshit
>>746120820Why are you on /v/?
>>746123681When publishers were abandoning it because of the great spectre of piracy?
>>746123681Steam is the only reason we don't have some 10 times worse launcher for every game by microslop or EA or something
>>746102020fippybippydoo
>>746123681People who say this either weren't around or don't remember how bad gaming was on PC.
>>746124554nobody else would be willing to share like steam does. we'd have 12 dogshit launchers
>>746124663Are you talking about DOS games gramps? Cause early modern PC gaming was peak sans needing a CD in the drive for the game to run. Unless, of course, you wanted to play shitty console ports.
>>746101864Had constant amd driver timeouts thay crashed my system multiple times on my pc, and after linus tech tips did their linux push recently I switched over to mint cinnamon. Easy for a brain dead now programmer gamer like me. There were some initial hiccups trying to get my msi board to recognize the flashed usb with mint on it (for some reason you have to use Rufus and some settings) but once it got installed it worked great. I love my games just working and performing better than on windows. The only flaw is with my camera and microphone not working sometimes on Firefox with teams, but im blaming Microsoft for that too because teams is their product.
>>746101864Just wait 5 years and the exact same people will be doing the same shit with Win11.
>>746101864Simple, I'll stop using Steam
>>746124663I'm old enough to remember everything from DOS games to GFWL. And i still stand by the fact that i prefer that systemSteam streamlined everything which made pc gaming more accessible, but it also removed the core of why i preferred it over other platforms Steam machines and other garbage valve make nowadays makes me fucking sick
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>>746124873I think we might have a few launchers from publishers and games for windows live being the main one for everyone who doesn't want to make their ownThanks to Gaben we managed to dodge that fucking awful future
>>746125147I grew up with red alert 2. PC gaming was ass back then and there's a reason console cancer dominated uncontested until valve started turning pc around.
>>746105723The fact that Windows comes preinstalled on every computer that you buy in a shop and most people don't see a need to install an entirely new operating system?
>>746126149I had no issues playing Diablo 2 and Counter-Strike all day
>>746105723Go away Logan, shart-syndicate is dead and Wendell is doing better than ever
>>746125147early 2000's securom and that gfwl bullshit were pretty atrocious, though that's all i remember being objectively bad about pc gaming, and thank god it wasn't that prevalentand we fucking pirated them out of business anyway so fuck'em
These posts prove that all the subhumans whining about new windows versions are just poorfags blaming software for their obsolete hardwarethey can only use a computer actually meant to run the os when it's already unsupported
>>746127056>braindead inflammatory statement>brand worshipgood bait. 7/10
>>746103847just turn it off dumbass
>>746102047Way harder to customize 11 than 10.
>>746126149There was nothing wrong with PC gaming back then outside of windows sometimes bluescreening
>>746103781>>746108290pathetic uptimes
>>746105367>Looky here all 38 of THE United States, watch me make Rhode Island Dance
>>746101864I'll simply stop being part of the master race and become a console peasant. Maybe rejoin once pc parts stop being so ridiculously expensive, also known as never. Prices for things like that never go down. Line must go up and all that.
>>746127905I turn my computer off at night. I pay my own electrical bill and it's been a hot summer, I'd rather use the watts on AC
>>746101864I'm on Linux since 2017/18, not my problem.
>>7461018642 PCs, 1x Win11, 1xLinux Mint or the Steam OS. Whatever I can't get to work on Linux I will use Win11 for, but the idea of booting that up every once in a while and being pestered by updates will bother me.
>>746102901Until Adobe works on Linux or it magically stops being an industry standard I'm stuck on Windows
>>746126919I didn't hate GFWL purely because the CD key was for the overlay and not the game, I was able to pirate every GFWL game and play online with the same Red Faction: Guerrilla key
>>7461279054 days is a lot for you?
>>746129456I remember Fallout 3, and I was already signed into GFWL for Gears of War, so I just entered my key and happily played.People on the Steam forums were freaking the fuck out because they installed it and played a bit, then entered their key (causing it to look in a different spot for their save and coming up blank).
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>>746101864use windows 12
>>746129767fuck off with your bs uptime set upon you by the fastboot setting in your power settingsyou still shut down your pc, your uptime just doesn't reseti deliberately let it run 24/7. we are not the same
>>746102047t. jeet
Plan 9 and TempleOS are going to be the last distros free from AI slop
>>746101864i dont get why you guys hate windows so much. Yes i get the tracking and telemetry stuff but you can turn a lot of that off and anyone who signs into windows with a microsoft account is a retard. I use 10 IOT LTSC on my desktop and 11 on my laptop both with local accounts and the nonsense turned off. I have linux on a seperate machine that i use to run my jellyfin server and its cool too but it needs more configuring generally and a lot of the programs i use on windows even things i got from github or open source either dont have a linux equivalent or the linux equivalent is more work because GUIs are less popular generally. I want to use linux more and im learning how to but at the same time i find using windows way more convenient at least for now. Also i see you guys say windows is slow, glitchy, crashes and blue screens a lot whereas none of that applies to my usage. Am i just super lucky or something ?
i took an old ass pc (E2200, 3gb ddr2, gt 9500) made 2 partitions on a hard drive, one with mint and the other with win 7 and works really well, that pc couldnt run win 10 at all without stuttering, back to 7 and works perfectly, microsoft should be nuked
>>746130593I don't turn off my PC, I simply lost power to the house for a split second 121 days ago
>>746106825Mine reached it in 2018 which is when I edited the registry in order to break the updates. Nothing of value was lost, any updates after basic stability has been reached is just corporate sanctioned malware.
>>746123681>>746125805I'm 100% sure people like you are braindead. PC gaming was barely a thing pre steam, especially multiplayer games. I don't want 40 launchers, I don't want to have to waste my life browsing various stores to see what's new, I don't want to have to hoard physical garbage and install from a fucking disc to play a game. Steam is the best thing that's ever happened to PC gaming and that's objectively a fact. Having things built into the client for free like modding, servers/server hosting, p2p connection/friendslists, built in forums etc hundreds of smaller features that everyone uses constantly. Only a subhuman would ever want to go back. Nostagloids who try and peddle this garbage need to unironically neck.
>>746102020ThisIts amazing how few people know you can run windows inside a Virtual Machine inside linux with zero slowdown. No need to run wine or janky hacks.ItJustWorks
>>746125872>>746124873>>746124554>>746123681If Steam didn't exist, we'd literally have the situation that /tv/ has right now with needing to have Netflix + Hulu + Disney + HBO + Ad infinitum just to play the games we want. Steam has it's flaws but it's certainly better than the dogshit /tv/ has to deal with.
>>746132707You are too young and unfamiliar to understand
>>746101864ended up forced to 10 because of directx requirements of games and not steam. There was only so much you can bypass with vxkex
>>746132864I'm in my late 30s and have had a PC since I was 2 due to my mother working in tech. Keep your retarded argument from authority to yourself nostalgianigger.
>>746127890And missing out on a bunch of games, troubleshooting, and some of the worst DRM known to man.
Can anyone here tell me how is modding on linux? Is it a much bigger pain in the ass than windows or about the same.
>>746101864Linux.Everything runs with Proton now.
>>746133095I too wish to know this. Like how hard is it to install Skyrim mods through Vortex?
We only regretted the loss of 10 because we knew 11 was even worse. 7 is still better than both.
>>746133095The only game I've modded so far is Wizardry 8.Mods that require you to drag a file into the install folder work the same, but mods that require you to run a program are a pain if they don't have a native Linux version.However, running them with Wine through the command line worked fine.
>>746133318While I agree the older versions of Windows were peak, let's not pretend Window 7 was perfectionI hate 7's long ass Windows Update so muchOne thing they got better with 10
>>746101864>Discussing anything tech related>Linuxjeets outta the woodwork to shill their dogshit OS that despite nonstop shilling less than 5% people use
>>746101864i'm already on Windows 11 because i learned my lesson over your picrel. i have no regrets
>>746128949Yeah, my current set up is Macbook Pro for laptop and Linux on PC. Windows though seems like slop these days. Hell, the company I work for dropped them for Linux on Enterprise workstations.>>746107260Nope. I'm a straight Hispanic dude.
>>746133318>meanwhile, linux fats are using a DOS clone without a GUIKEKAROO
>>746133036>missing out on a bunch of gamesIf you are talking about console games, the consoles were also missing out on a bunch of games either because it was exclusive to another console or PC>troubleshootingPeople playing on PC back then had above average IQ so it wasn't a problem, but yes, there was some troubleshooting you had to do with some games>some of the worst DRM known to manI never had to deal with any shitty DRM, piracy was also easier
>>746102020Arch is superior
>>746133734>less than 5% people useIt was like 1% a couple years ago, year of the linux desktop is coming
>>746101864By the time that happens SteamOS will be better anyways, even for regular use.
>Arch
7 support lasted forever, 10 will be steam-compatible for the next decade at which point games will require 11 features
>>746134156>games will require 11 featuresSuch as?
>>746128008i see you fellow 30-something year old.
>>746105723because it still sucks a bit. it's better than ever, and windows is worse than ever, which makes it very appealing. i still have a dozen programs that requires windows, so i'm stuck. looking into a virtual windows and linux setup.
>>746134329ask me in 10 years
>>746134329NTA, but it will likely happen. Games already require 10 features beyond LTSC, specifically Directstorage. DX13 will likely be 11+ only.
>>746134156Counterpoint: The last good game released in like 2015.
>>746134589>DX13 will likely be 11+ only.What do you mean likely? It will be 100% 11+ only. I mean even 11 having support is a questionmark, given that Windows 12 or Windows Copilot PC or whatever might exist by the time they come out with that.
>>746134737Counter-counterpoint: Your PC can't run games past 2015, so all those grapes are sour anyway.
>>746134737doki doki literature club was 2017, liberal
>>746134329Cloud-based AI framegen. It will utilize Windows 11's spyware feature that sends a screenshot to Microsoft every few seconds. Their AI will extrapolate additional frames from that and send it back to your PC. Using this amazing technology you will be able to play games of 2030 at a breathtaking 40 FPS (on low graphics).
>>746134750>Windows 12 or Windows Copilot PCWe're 2 years past 24H2, when the Copilot PC/Recall shit was introduced for ARM, with 26H2 looming (and nothing in it relevant to said shit). MS doesn't even TALK about it anymore. That shit is dead.>>746134871Show me this feature on x86-64.
>>746134589DX13 won't be stable for like three years after release. We aren't getting DX13 exclusives anytime soon (and we're getting proton compatibility when that happens)
>>746135020>we're getting proton compatibilityI'm not. I'm not trans.
>>746135083good goy
>>746134871>sends a screenshot to Microsoft every few secondsTech companies are spending trillions in resource development just to know I've got jungle fever?
>>746135137Yes, I'm a goy. Good rabbi.
>>746101864>still beating the strawmanwin7 was better than win10literal dogshit is better than win11
>>746101864Can /v/ articulate why it benefited us the consumer, to leave windows 7 and 10 behind?
>>746135182Windows 11 works on my machine. Maybe it's PEBSAK.>>746135217Continued support? Install 4000/5000 series drivers on 7.
>>746134783I haven't really felt the need to upgrade in a long time.>>746134834I think that would run in a computer from 2007 my dude.
>>74613521711 has ai unc chatgpt is the goat
>>746135145SAAR YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE FROM THE CORPORATIONNAME POEASE STOP CARING ABOUT ANAL PROBING AND MONETIZING EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE THROUGH BEHAVIOUR MANIPULATION BE EXITED FOR THE NEW PRODUCTS PLEAZE
>>746135145Because they multiply their money by selling your data
>>746102520Why would someone need photoshop to make blacked edits and what is the alternative?
I've got until 2032. After that, ill make the switch to Loonix.
>>746135273>Continued support? Install 4000/5000 series drivers on 7.Does windows need to upgrade to support 5000 series drivers, or does 5000 series drivers need to upgrade to support windows? What exactly has changed that made it necessary for these two things to upgrade together?
>>746135357It's literally not on x86-64 and it looks like it never will be. Why lie?
>>746135273And where I argue that it does not work? TempleOS also works, but for some reason you don't want to install it. Better than w11 btw
>>746102819Why did you abandon 7?
>>746102047See this was only valid when 7 came out and was just updated Vista. windows 11 is the same as 10 if youre retarded
>>746134968>>746135471The manner in which you specify x86-64, leads me to believe that there is some other type of system that it is on. What is it on?
>>746124398because he doesn't play video games
>>746101864>when Steam stops supporting Windows 10You're a tech-illiterate zoomer who doesn't know a goddamn thing about PCs.
>>746135607Windows 11 is much better than 10 and the difference is bigger than going from Vista to 7. The only way Windows 11 is worse is if you're comparing a customized and debloated Windows 10 to completely stock 11. Which is idiotic. Stock 10 is dogshit.
>>746132742You still have a few exclusives on Epic and Origin, but your point is valid
>>746135736ARM, specifically ones that meet the NPU specifications they want. They sell "Copilot+ PCs" with ARM chips in them and market them based on the AI. They were originally suggesting it would come to x86-64, but it looks like they want people to forget that.linux fats like to lie and say it already exists on x86-64 and "you just don't know," and use an article where some guy hacked Windows on an underspec ARM CPU to support it, where he said "it might work on other platforms" to say it's definitely taking screenshots of my PC right this second.
>>746136023Windows does nothing for me personally that 10 couldn't do. Well, i guess MS paint is improved. but I have a pirated copy of photoshop, so I don't need paint.In 11, they removed a lot of the file sorting options, and made it difficult to find the "date modified" option. so in that sense, it's worse to use.Also, 11 tried to change the cut cope and paste options to these little icons, removing the actual text. Everyone hated it, but they tried to keep it for a long time, before finally relenting and updating it to include the text under the icons.
>>746136152Here check out this Linux faggot websitehttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/shop-pcs/gaming-pcsMake sure to pay extra attention to what CPUs those Copilot+ computers have.
>>746136152I don't know anything about NPU or Copilot+. But tell me this: could those kinds of systems be put into the unsuspecting homes of users who didn't realize that their PCs were taking images of their desktops? Perhaps someone is just a modern tech enthusiast, or an AI enthusiast, and he wants to try out this different kind of system. Not realizing its surveilling him.As a personal anecdote, I recall the the "recall" scare when it first hit the news rounds. It definitely made me worry. Even though they didn't enable recall for my system, the fact that they even thought of it is concerning. How do I know they won't change their minds later, after the backlash has died down.
>>746137187They walked back the opt-out and turned it into opt-in, so no. Someone would have to configure it to do so. Supposedly, no human sees the images, and the AI just recommends tasks based on trends, though. It's like>you frequently post "FUCK YOU NIGGER" on this board. would you like me to craft a response?
>>746137393>They walked back the opt-out and turned it into opt-inSo they can reverse that when ever they want
>>746137618Theoretically, but I think Recall is all but dead.
>>746137393The training data must exist on some cloud somewhere. They can say that don't peek, but how do we know that for sure? And what happens if they get hacked and all of our screenshots are on their system? And you know the government loooooves surveillance. If they know Microsoft is sitting on a mountain of user screenshots, they're going to push as hard as they can to get access to it. "Oh we just need to solve this case, let us take a look at this guy's training data."
>>746137809So don't turn it on.
>>746137702Apple is doing it now too so microslop will push it again soon
>>746104760That's what I heard.
>>746115080Honestly? For the most part yes, aside from the shit ton of compiler updates (idk I'm just retarded and haven't configured them to exclude them) its actually better than mint since that is so retard coded that it's actually restraining.
I've never used win 10I've been on Linux since 7.
>>746138863>I'm 12 now.I see.
>>746125307Yeah bro old motherboards don't recognize gpt so you have to make an mbr partition. Shit frustrated me too, but ventoy is far better you should check it out. I suggest you check out lutris as well, it gives range steam can't provide.
>>746101864I'll post it here too, why not. Quick reminder that on Windows your IP address is periodically linked to a Microsoft "GDID" or global device identifier value which is calculated based on your physical TPM chip. It regenerates if you reinstall windows but the fact that it's calculated based on your TPM chip does mean they're all linkable to eachother and you. No big deal as long as you understand that this means changing your IP via VPN cannot secure legal plausible deniability on Windows anymore. Stay safe!
>>746133734>+5 shekels added to your account
>>746139096I wish.
>>746101864That's that Stockholm Syndrome.
My friends will likely never want Linux cuz my audio drivers love to bug out for me whenever we get together. Most unfortunate, but that's just life.
>>746139254If you reverse index the protowarp masturbatory calculation algorithm of the matrix capacitor, you can see all your flux inverse transfer capabilities.
>>746101864Install Linux
>>746139692Heh, my first experience with Linux was completely fucked audio. Now I just use a DAC on SPDIF and it has never been better. I don't even know if my motherboard audio works.
>>746102901the raped
>>746101864Just install Bazzite or CachyOS. I did it in 2024, I have not looked back.
>>746101864Steam is the only reason I'm staying on windos and not linux
>>746101864I will just pirate stuff even harder till i get 32 ram to get win11, and by the time i do it will be less shit
>>746140086Valve made a linux distro for Steam
i'm on fedora linux and i'm never gaymen on a windows system againi kept hearing that the emulation layer would make me lose frames but i actually get better framerates and temps after i left windows 11 and its bloatware
Realistically what happens if i just ignore whatever and continue to use Windows 10 for a few years without any updates
>>746139968>BarryOSWhy?
>>746128949>AdobeShow me your work.
>>746140281You only lose frames on nvidia and maybe Intel on AMD it's pretty much the same unless you run a toaster in which case Linux gives better perf.
>>746101864>when Steam stops supporting Windows 10I thought people on Windows 7 were still logging onto Steam? Isn't is just on a per-game basis whether you're left behind for not being on more recent versions of Windows?
>>746140393makes sense, i'm on amd with a 9070xt
>>746134535Tried Wine?
>>746140319Nothing
>>746140428It won't update anymore (since it requires a Chromium version that doesn't support 7), and compatibility gradually breaks. The same will happen with 10 whenever Google finally decides to abandon Chromium there (which usually follows MS abandoning the OS for library support).
>>746140281I'm on fedora too, I use to run the xfce DE, but after trying KDE I think it's much better.
>>746140571i unironically had never used linux until a couple of months ago but when news hit that windows wants to make AI basically unremovable from all future products i immediately asked a friend to teach me how to set up fedorakde has been working great for me too :>
>>746101864I'll move to Linux, unironically. Experiencing the Steam Deck convinced me that it's a viable gaming OS now. I figured I'd make the switch when I put together my next PC build, since I'd want to do a fresh OS install for that anyways. Market conditions have pushed that timeline out a bit.
>>746108290Tried pure wine or lutris? Wanted to play project reality and space station 13 both games which cant be played on steam, I had lost all hope when I found out I couldn't run a windows VM for shit. But I still wanted to try and found a guide online for PR with raw wine and it fucking worked with some tweaking. Byond was much easier since lutris has community instalers. They are not perfect but I went from fucking nothing to being able to catch bodies in these games.
>>746140568Steam should drop chromium and remake their client with something they control
>>746140568What is it like when updates stop? I have a secondary PC on W10 that's still capable of playing 90% of my library, I don't want to wake up one day and the Steam client refuses to let me access my games.
>>746140571>>746140693I'm planning on fedora with a new rig. I really hope I don't end up regretting it.
>>746132734Idk bro both KVM and vmbox couldn't run for shit. Yeah it technically worked but it was fucking unplayable
>>746140979i haven't regretted it a single minutebut then again i do have a windows dual boot for potatoshop and for work
>>746140954That's the equivalent of reinventing the wheel. Also keep in mind that Steam supports browsing arbitrary websites in the browser that you can summon in the overlay. Browser security and web ""standards"" support in 2026 is so fucking impossible that the number of browser engines has diminished to only 2.They still wouldn't support Windows 7 even if they did drop it, cuz there's no point.
>>746140972They'll give you a warning. They warned 7 users a year in advance with a little red stripe at the top of the client that counted down to D-Day.>>746140954Valve isn't a company with a billion jeets that can make a web browser just for them. It's easier to hook something common. Before Chromium, it was just spawning Internet Explorer from your base Windows install.
>>746141230They might not have a billion jeets but they have billions of dollars
>>746140979I haven't used any other distro so I can't tell you if you'd have a better experience elsewhere, but I think it's a mature user friendly distro on the whole.
>>746141086I always assume people who say they run windows VMs to play games are full of shit.Windows is a nightmare to emulate, I've never got it working with any semblance of performance, nevermind giving it a video card and benchmarking if it works as fast as on metal.And the supernerds that can set it up feel good about their achievement and never play any games on it afterwards. I knew a guy like that.
>>746142258>go through the hassle to set up VM with PCI-E passthrough >games that block Linux users generally block VM users toowhat's the fucking point
>>746142258It's basically you either have to be:>Jeff bezos to get the hardware to run ts smoothly Or>A fucking hermit dark magician to hotwire all this shit together to squeeze out every bit of performance
>>746102047stop, you're upsetting all the 3rd worlders with 10 year old budget pcs
>>746142773Don't play anti cheat slopshit?
>>746101864Stop supporting steam.
>>746143926yeah i agree, but why play games in a Windows VM then?
>>746144387Poors are locked in a battle with their own hypocrisy.>X GAME SUCKS ANYWAY!!!!!>WHY CAN'T I PLAY X GAME????
>>746101864this was me with xp and 7, im on 11 now and i dont care at all. it just works. 10 is not much different from 11. but i agree its a bit of a hassle to "learn" another os again
>>746144387You don't, you either find make wine work or let it go
>>746101864I'll probably switch to Linux like my brother who already switched to CachyOS. Bazzite seems good but I'm looking for a more general purpose distro as I'm not using my PC solely for gaming. I'm still considering switching though because I still use Word for some work, Excel for games that require it, and Notepad++ for a lot of things.
>>746102520What do you use to make blacked edits?
>>746102901>Don't reply to my posts if your entertainment requires you to interact with tards online.Why are you even posting if you don't want to discuss stuff?
>>746102047it wastes a signifigant portion of your compute on background AI telementry spyware that cannot be disabled and basic features break every week as the entire OS is just an indian vibe coded mess that nobody even knows how to read, much less the indians who wrote the OS, it's unmaintainable unreadable garbage that they keep piling on more shitty bloat in an attempt to fix features that were working just fine in 7.
>>746101864>when Steam stops supporting Windows 10?When will that be? I guess I'll move to Linux and get another 10 years out of the machine?
>>746127426You should also turn off your 2026 car recording data and sending it to dealers, companies, and insurance.
>>746101864they're gonna bitch and complain, and 6 or 7 years from now when they announce windows 12 they're gonna do the same exact whining about wanting to stay on 11this is the windows process
>>746111794>Making a Linux distro that is "windows"English speaking countries (read: white) are at 10% already, and CachyOS is by far the most popular.
>>746120117>implying sex is importantMaking children is important. There is a difference, you degenerates. I'd rather people be virgins than be divorced and penniless and in debt for child support or stuck with an empty nihilistic feeling after fucking an onlyfans whore.t. Abe
>>746101864Ask copilot to install linux
>>746127056>poorfags blaming software for their obsolete hardwareGolly gee, this 4090 sure looks obsolete.
>>746133095>>746133189>>746133560Amethyst or Flourine for mods, Steam Workshop if supported, or do it the old fashioned way: by hand.
>>746147242My bad, I had no idea 4 chan was a video game. I thought this was a reddit knock off.
>>746134147truth
>>746101864Go to win11
>>746140319Nothing happens, you just continue using your desktop fully aware no one is holding your hand now.t. win7 holdout
>>746134076Yeah at sucking cock
>THE SMALL TASKBAR OPTIONAL UPDATE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO RELEASE TO STABLE TODAY GOT DELAYED BECAUSE OF SOME FAGGOT BUG IN KB5121003 THAT IS CRASHING UE5 GAMES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHeh.M$ is so incompetent 3rd party software can roll out features they removed.
>sit on old OS version until the new version gets betatested by retards and most bugs get ironed out>wait until the tools to unpozz it are mature>finally move to the now OS>use tools to debloat and unpozz it as much as possible>wow this is greatrinse and repeat since vista :) (been using jeetdows since w95)
outside of factorio what will I actually lose by just setting up a wiiu as an emulation box and setting up a pc with xp or vista without an internet connection to play pc games from the 90s and 2000s?
>>746105723because it's NOT as user friendly as some people keep sayingit's NOT just using the fucking appstore and clicking install. You have to troubleshoot SO MUCH and most software you have to go to forums that often lead to a rabbithole of issues because you lack dependencies. On top of it, all the little shit pet peeves that pile on top makes it unbearable in the end.
>>746102047>can't move taskbar to top of screen, a feature that has existed since Win98>electronshit UI with visible FOUT in system components like explorer>retarded extra clicks needed in context menus for many actions>vibecoded slop updates shat out by subhuman pajeets that regularly brick the system Win11 is an atrocity and all the street shitters working at M$ need to be nuked from orbit
>>746102298steam is so built for poor third worlders they even have special pricing for them i don't know why you wouldn't mention this at all
>LTSC only mentioned 5 timesIf you're gonna stick with Windows, just use this version.
>>746101864>Remove DRM>Take away the few game I bought licenses for>Erase Steam>Format>Install W7That's all
>>746102047I shan't install the operating system with arbitrary requirements, AI bloatware, faulty updates every-other week, and is trying to push the boundaries for limiting what you can do with your own computer by hiding and obfuscating basic controls.
>>746140319You get inevitably pwned by ivan/rajesh due to being a dumb frogposter
>>746105837right back at you
>>746105723same reason why people don't use specialty ergonomic keyboards, they can't rationalize the price (setting it up and learning to code to truly experience linux the way it was meant to be)
>>746101864
>>74610186411 is so bad I cant see that ever happening. at least not before they actually steam os to not suck for anything other than running steam
>>746102047My mobo can't even support it do to lack of the backdoor chip.
>>746153245Rufus has a toggle to turn off the TPM requirement during ISO creation. But you really shouldn't bother anyway, windows 11 is basically in an open beta testing, and you're the lemmings responsible for running in circles screaming about bugs.
>>746127426>yes, we'll (((turn it off)))) we promise! honest!just like all the other things you turned off that magically turns itself on again?
I used w7 for 10 years and w10 now only for 7 and im not switching up until at least I exceeded the last amount of time.
>>746101864I just use windows 11…it works good…pro edition of course because home edition is retarded. I don’t even care if M$ harvests my data because the OS just werks and is the best for gaming. I have a girlfriend so you can trust my opinion on this matter
>>746101864i haven't used Windows since 2007
>>746101864>what will /v/ do when Steam stops supporting Windows 10?Probably Linux
>>746102047The right click menu is so shit on the W11 at work I never want to ever touch this dogshit on my home computer. Awful toolbar and windows too, plus ads.
>>746102047>Win 11 is barely any differentNo, it's worse than Windows 10. And I'm not one of these "I want to keep muh Win7, I won't switch to 10". I actually liked Win10 and switched to it asap.There is just a clear pattern, sure the UI looks great (for most people), but the push for Web shit (not just windows) and non native crap really shows. All modern shit is fucking react(native), webview2, electron crap, Windows 10 on modern hardware feels so fucking snappy (non home versions) it's fucking crazy to think about... Windows never had schedutil (linux) or QoS (macos)... they just released Low Latency Profile for Windows in 2026, because most Apps have such a slow start up time, imagine Win10 native shit WITH the Low Latency Profile. But it makes sense for Microsoft going the cross platform / web way, they are betting on the cloud and subscriptions, in case their Desktop Marketshare will continue to shrink, so they will have a cross platform dependency and safety net. They are even pushing fucking Edge (Webshit again) on Android now, if you love computers stick with Win10 LTSC and get familiar with Gnu/Linux.
>>746101864you can still run steam on win7
