This is unironically way bigger of a leap in tech than Raytracing. The trailers Nvidia put out for it were horrible and a disservice for what it actually is capable of. You can adjust the intensity of it to make it look like an actual video game still and not an instagram filter while still looking incredibly deep. There's work to be done but this shit is huge.
>>746479517It's a neat experiment in technology but I hate it for actually playing. Having photorealistic faces and clothing textiles moving around with video game animations in implausible video game environments with limited collisions and physics is just jarring. It doesn't look good outside of static screenshots and scripted cutscenes. Lighting, textures, physics and animation go hand in hand and increasing one element way ahead of the other is uncanny.
>>746480158This
Anne Bonny Sex
>fake frames>fake lighting>fake resolution>now fake textures
>>746480158Because this doesn't matter to slop suckers like jeets other the very low-IQ tards that see it as actively compensating for their complete lack of skill and ability to create. When your have absolutely no taste, no sense of aesthetics and zero class, this ugly hyperrealistic faggotry really must seem like magic.
>>746480351If its fake, why does it cost 70% of your frames?
>>746479517It's nice to get pathtracing levels of lighting without sacrificing 90% of your framerate.
>>746479517Everyone making fun of you in the other thread so you made another huh?This is a leap off a cliff.This is ugly as fuck.
>>746479517Sweet Baby Inc uglification filter
I love instagram filters bros, that's how I always imagined games should look like
stop ittttt
There's zero reason why this is grouped with DLSS instead of being it's own separate thing. It's just them trying to force people into accepting AI slop
>>746480351>>746480386>>746480407>>746480457>>746480471>>746480579>>746480970Performance cost will be at least 75% less when integrated into the game properly instead of through a naive post-processing mod.
>>746481805I don't give a fuck about performance, I have a 5080this shit is so fucking UGLY and the fact that "people" can't see this actually baffles me
>>746481805>at least 75% lessIsn't it officially integrated to NBA2k27 already. Why does no one test it to verify?
>>746481987https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrbOIpJYnH0
>>746481987he's just saying bullshit, search the archive for that image he's posted probably a hundred times in the last 24 hours since these threads started. it's probably a bot or some indian shill
This shit is so fucking ugly. You fags making threads about this are trolling, right?
Has anyone tried MSFS2024?
I hate graphics-fags so much
>>746479517>video games need to look like real lifeit's just keeps getting worse
>>746482074I mean we need some benchmark to see if the performance hit is still the same even with official integration.
>>746482074Yeah this is by far the best case I've seen for DLSS5 and I can't wait to see it properly implemented into other games instead of hacked in by modders as it is right now.Even bigger than faces honestly some of the environmental uplifts have been incredible from what I've seen.
>>746480724what fucking game is this
>>746482074>yfw this is the best thing nba2k has done for the gaming community
photorealism is slopdistinct art styles are life
>>746481987Everyone in these threads is either not a ball-and-gun gamer (me) or too broke to afford a full-price videogame (evidenced by their purchasing an AMD card)Honestly I'm guessing it was included by accident and not active yet in the game itself until Nvidia officially announces it. Probably just there for internal testing, they didn't expect someone to go through the files.
>>746482138https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRLKfeaz-0M60fps 4k ultra on a 5090 with no FG.
>>746480158This. It just goes straight into the uncanny valley because all of the characters still move and behave like robots.
>>746482196You'll be happy to know it works on other art styles then :^)
>>746479517>ruins framerate>makes all your games look the same and usually ruins the visual styleWhy has every technology made for videogames in the last half a decade only given us uglier, slower, less visually interesting games?
>>746479517>replaces real rendering with horrible fake AI slop hallucinations.>huge waste of GPU>Can't even resolve the fucking aliasing and dithering while its at it.literally has nothing to do with graphics rendering. cancerous gimmicky garbage.
>>746480457Nightmare inducing.
I hate this timeline so fucking much. I can afford the cards but this looks so fucking ugly for the most part
>>746482124Yeah, graphics should have stopped at this.
>>746482306this version was taken from a basketball game, so its making all the textures fit with that style
>>746479517Is there any footage of this? All people keep posting are pictures
>>746482336DLSS already has versions that resolve aliasing
>>746482196>>746482305mario if he real
>>746482454it is very unoptimized, a lot of people cant make videos that looks good with it.
>>746482305Crazy it turns out art was easier to automate than being an electrician or technician.
>>746482074This is insane. I still hate it though.
i'm not agaisnt ai. For coding is a godsend, and I don't value art that much or artists' livelihood BUT this tech makes everyone having the same old ugly wrinkly face. For now it's garbage
>>746482454The photos can hide the artifacts of it in motion
>>746482480Nice banding, vro.
>>746482598it can't be helped
>>746480457need to update this to say DLSS 5>>746482465the SS in DLSS stands for SUPER SAMPLING. Every fucking version of DLSS should resolve aliasing.if it doesn't then it's pointless and not SS. it's DLAISS "Deep Learning AI Super Slop"
>>746482548>>746482454youtube exists
>>746480158>Having photorealistic faces and clothing textiles moving around with video game animations in implausible video game environments with limited collisions and physics is just jarringthis will be next. ai will know what is being rendered, and apply the physical properties, it can already do it for video.It'll come, eventually...
This tech is genuinely a game changer on par with the leap from HDD to SSD, dial-up to broadband, normal wanking to prostate massage, and so on.Only poors who cant afford the hardware & twitter luddites believe otherwise.
>>746482336Honestly should just all go back to pen and paper table top games or cards or something. Why have the computers automate tasks like light rendering, physics, or multiplayer networking for you? Just a bunch of souless calculations, that's just computer slop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsnPKnvKIZcThis shit is nightmare fuel in motion.
amazing how blatant the shilling is and yet /v/ still falls for it
>>746482391agreed but we're in the extreme minoritythe norms have completely lost their minds in response to dlss 5just goes to show all this time they really only cared about photorealism and they never gave a shit about gameplay
>>746482671>Only poors who cant afford the hardwareIncreasingly going to be fucking everyone on the planet except a select few as they erase the middle class completely and force everyone to do cloud computing. You will own nothing. Retard.
>>746482480>>746482636you will need to make before and after .pngs for this to be readable. .gifs colour limit will not allow.
>>746482725>never go full retard
>>746482074I think it works for games with realistic games like this and games that are geared towards those types of things. but on other things like Anime games, JRPG's etc the colors look washed out, and it makes characters look odd.
>>746482768raiden if he real
>>746480471Sweet Baby shills are the ones crying this is making their heckin valid troon characters look like the men they are.
>>746480724source???
>>746482804the color adjustment is a slider, you can disable that
>>746482763Keep crying, poor
>>746482813What does the Colonel think about this?
AI should be used to make porn and translate doujins. Using this on games kills the art style of the game.
Dlss 5 solves some stuff in theory that is basically impossible to solve with rasterization, mainly it can do near perfect occlusion and scattering of every type.I know people are too brainlet here to understand this but if tweaked properly this is game changer for every style, no matter if realistic or stylized.
>>746482725Amazing
>>746482725>600W space heater>still looks like GTA5
>>746482804Do you not understand that dlss5 can have profiles trained on stylized input?
>>746482868t. 16 year old jose from juarez, larpingI could spend 5k on a PC tomorrow. This doesn't change the fact it's a stupid fucking financial decision forced on me because your kike owners no longer want us to have real desktop environments you fucking human cattle
>>746482926blah blah blah we can fix you're shitty vibe coded games
how does it do with lewd things?
>>746480158this. its a lesson you learn the first time you put a buncha 4k textures and high poly meshes in a game like Fallout 3 or Morrowind or even Skyrim.
>>746480724Sauce?
>>746479517>There's work to be doneunderstatement of the century
>>746482165>>746482859>>746483065under the witch with dlss enabled
>>746482926it clearly goes beyond that though
>>746479517is there ghosting with this?
>>746483115
>>746483179It isn't an on off button, you can fine tune it. Even current incomplete version has profiles and sliders.
>>746483251No, but in order to play it at a playable framerate you need FG and DLSS, which causes ghosting.
i guess full realistic, movie-likes graphic is the next ray tracing huh.maybe in 10 years it will be the new normalpushback doesnt mean shit when the next generation is growing up with this shit
you don't even need faces to make this shit the pinnacle of uncanny imagination valley
>>74647951710 minutes now
>>746483315>pushback doesnt mean shit when the next generation is growing up with this shitthey can't even afford this shit. next generation is AMD hardware and still going to be priced out so no one can get it but super luxuries if that.
>>746483372dude they are preparing the cubs for cloud PC and shit. Yu vill own nothing and be happy!
>>746483416they don't even have the budget and zoning access to google fiber half of america
>>746483451They can get the government to do that
I want to see it on XCOM2 and BG3
>>746483520that's not exactly working out for the data centers as is
>>746480337SAAR
>>746482725>the commentsNon-westerners never should have gotten internet access
Is the tech out already? I thought it was months away
>>746483569cuz data c enter is disruptive, cost a fuck ton and take a lot of spacetrump will feed the dumb ass merican something likes: Infrastructure FOR THE FUTURE, BIG NET FOR EVERYONE, FASTEST INTERNET IN THE WORLD, WE BEAT CHYNA, FELLOW AMERICAN!!! NOW U CAN WATCH BBC PORN IN 8K WITHOUT LOADING! THANKS YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS MATTER
>>746483569They are only getting delayed because they are competing for the same resources not that they're being denied or stopped
>>746483330>DLSS5 makes things look objectively uglierBroke-ass Balrogs.
>>746483654NBA 2K27 devs accidentally leaked the .dll.
>>746483758Just like that? And it works for every game? I thought devs had to enable support for it
I just don't see the point. It makes the game look different. Still plays the same so why should I care?
>>746483820The models are already in the Nvidia drivers. Someone reverse engineered the dll to make it work with any game within a day.
>>746483857it will improve. this is the very first generation. I dunno, maybe in 10 years it will looks like a movie.
>>746479517Bro who gives a shitty filter fucking up and changing the look of every game?
>>746483873Kek, how hard it tanks the performance?
>>74648395430-40%even worse for lower tier cards
>>746479517>Jeet tech.
>>746483954>>746483993More. It's up to 70% on some games. You definitely need DLSS and probably FG to run it.I saw someone playing Stellar Blade with it on a 5070 and got 60fps down from 170.
>>746483993Everyone would get to try the console experience and those sweet 30fps
>>746483857It’s a technology. A tool. It will be refined with time until eventually it will aid in the creation of things you can’t even comprehend right now, just as you couldn’t comprehend what video games are today in 2002.
>>746479517How's the performance hit? Could dev's in the future make games simpler and let DLSS 5 fill in the blanks? Would run better?
>>746480724Finally weg goblina graphics can be improved with dlss
>>746480351You're just finally waking up
>>746484223that not weg. thats certified authentic jap's femdom slop
>>746484052jeets don't have the money to afford it
>>746484162>>746484062
>>746484128you don't use a stellarator to cook your fucking chicken wieners
>>746480351>real frames>real lighting>real resolution>real texturesCan any of these things be “real” if they are pixels on a screen?
>>746483161Is the dlss5 option in a new update?
This shit unironically improves Starfield a hundredfoldAdvantages of having terrible art direction, an AI filter could only be an improvement
>>746480457That's because ff7r Cloud's model is total dogshit. Dogshit model = dogshit output. It's also so girly that AI gets confused and thinks he's a woman so it gives Cloud nasolabial folds and big, soft lips, fucking kek.
>>746484329no, peoples modded the game.
>>746484328the more layers of abstraction the less cohesive it is
>>746480337now this is what DLSS 5 was made for
>>746484343It only works with Western AAA games with no art styles yeah
>>746484317chickens dont have wieners they're reptiles they lay eggs
>>746479517Huge if your idea of playing video games is masturbating to skyrim mods, garbage in every other scenario
>>746480724post more porn games with DLSS 5
>>746482910Well it can already do both so might as well branch out.https://github.com/koharu-rs/koharu
>>746484428We should call it the Goyslop Cleaner 5
possible to add this DLSS shit to honey select or koikatsu or artificial girl?
Remembird us. Remembird that we once lived.
>>746484627it needs to change the hair too otherwise it looks jarrring as fk
>>746484658nah it'll look jarring on these low poly/cel shaded games always. just not made for this tech.
I'm actually kinda hyped that what's basically an AI post process shader can be made contextually aware of the lighting and automatically, kinda get you half-way to pathtraced quality.And this is some sideshow, unreleased, 1st gen shit. The work they did on dlss 4.5 made it 10 fucking times better for no performance loss over the prior dlss4 versions.leave the face shit out of it though just fix the lighting. and let the player control if they want the colors or tonemap different.
>>746480158It just depends on how you want to generate the output image. Just like AI can generate realistic images or anime style images. There can simply be a step in the DLSS generation pipeline where it examines a frame, then adjusts the output style to match.For example, it takes a frame from a game every once in awhile, then it feeds it to a model to output keywords: anime, cute, pink, fluffy. Then those keywords will be included as input when generating the DLSS5 output image. So it won't look try to look realistic, but look anime, cute, and fluffy.I'm guessing it's primarily trained on realism right now, but I don't see why they won't expand it so it supports more diverse styles.
I feel like the real spiderman now
Has anyone attempted to apply this to animu games like Persona and the like yet? I must see them Yassified.
>>746480158If the game has facial mocap and a high enough polycount then it works wonders, it looks fine on most 8th gen games but 7th gen and earlier looks incredibly cursed
>>746485029The main thing for me is the lighting is uniform across all these games, its like bright overcast grey daytime no matter the setting or initial look.
>>746484989https://x.com/wuwaguy/status/2093634279834345808Other than adding a tan to the waifus it looks neat
>>746480158uncanny is a buzzword made up by luddites who can not stomach art's true form
so what is the input lag penalty
>>746484963This is it. This is the next leap in graphics we’re been waiting for
>>746484506I don't know what either of those are but if the game supports dlss then yes. Dlss is the only requirement.>>7464852180, that's a frame gen issue. Though you'll probably need to use fre gen with this.
Just tried it out on my 5090 in CP77. It's actually a decent upgrade for the random NPCs walking around and a slight upgrade to overall lighting but the performance penalty is pretty huge
>>746485118Damn, I was hoping for everyone to turn into handsome squidward or the Bogdanoffs.
>>746485218The extra details is just further reducing FPS compared to just having upscaling on. So you'll just take an FPS hit. It's not introducing input lag like generating fake frames which holds onto frames with artificial delays.
>>746485456There's something I want you to try, anon. We've seen, based on how DLSS 5 can improve the visuals on older games, that DLSS can pretty much dream up shadows and lighting. Ergo, it would make sense that even if you lower those settings in your game, DLSS 5 would handle it all anyway. That way you can recover performance. Is my theory true?
>>746485456some modpacks for 77 are enough to turn that game's lack of detail around, fuck this thingthough I am interested in how dlss5 affects a game that's already visually correct with pathtracing. like it has nothing to fix there so would it make it look worse
>>746482725>600 watts of power to make a game look 10% betterit's fucking hilarious how everyone laps it the fuck up
>>746482394>all the characters are straight whitesYes.
the sovless filter with more temporal artifacts, yummy!
>>746484963sick. nice shot
>>746485762Most modern gpus work in the 750 watts range or more, poorie
nice
>>746485914cool story bro but i wasn't asking for your thirdie shill opinion bitch
>>746480158Watch the suits not realize that they can do more than photorealism and not use the tech to enhance the game's own art style with it.
>>746484963>>746485978this is it. we finally at the marve cape shit slop graphic now
>>746483882>it will looks like a movieThen those faggots should stop where they are and kill themselves because movies are inferior to games.
>>746480457Now do Priscilla.
>>746484128>Video games in 2002Vice City came out in 2002. Not really much different from GTAV, so...
>>746480351At the end of the day, everything is pixels.
Why is the only game we've seen that actually looks better with this the porn game?
>>746486296cause the porn game use anime style which is like a blank slate so the DLSS could paint over it easily
>>746486258The pic you're replying to isn't dlss5 it's an AI edit.
>>746484506those games dont have dlss..
>>746483595>Non-westerners never should have gotten internet accessAssuming we survive the consequences it will most assuredly be considered one of the most contributing factors to the downfall of humanity.
can you tune dlss5 to make everything look more anime instead of more realistici want to play cyberpunk edgerunners
>>746486478just cel shade it with an enb shader the fuck you dont need some 40% fps robbing ai filter for that
>>746484128>It will aid in the creation of things you can’t even comprehend right nowFor example?
>>746479517>This is unironically way bigger of a leap in tech than Raytracing.Yet all it's going to result in is yet more shitty "remasters" that run like absolute shit.This industry is fucking dead.
>>746486478Not with the leaked version, no. There's only 3 styles. Maybe devs can do their own, but making it stylized is easy, and not worth losing half your frames using this shit when you can just bake it in.
>>746486478not really, right now you can just tweak it a little bit between three presets and some sliders that barely do anythingit's fundamentally just ray tracing with one of the presets affecting faces more than the others and another preset adding cinematic effectscertain presets work better with certain gamesI think they'll add more customization to this thing though
>>746486540shaders will not turn hags into cute anime girls tho
>>746486569lol this...shitty indian diarrhea remasters deluge incoming
>>746479517We already have good enough model, texture, and lighting. What we need is better skeletal animation technology.
>>746486569this is just some leaked beta and it looks way better than any remaster ever
>>746486761>some german muhamed nigger's idea of humor is posting 256 color .gifs
>>746483882It'll look different. That's it?
> there are people who really enjoy DLSS5 and think it's a good thingWtf really.
>>746479517Buy an ad
Hate DRMHate Always OnlineHate DLCHate Loot BoxesHate TAAHate DLSSHate RaytracingHate DLSS 5Hate all the garbage hobbled together by third world shitters in Unreal or UnityQuite frankly at this point I think i'm done playing basically anything released in the last decade, it's all slop.
>>746485978ah yes, truly the modern engineering marvel at crushing the blacks
>>746486569what i think is going to happen is engines are going to start to incorporate stable diffusion models into their engines. you license the engine, they give you a partial weight version of the model that you can train with your games assets and style.the actual games will be low poly skeletons to maintain consistency and drive animations and physics in the game world, textures and lighting will be upscaled ai sloppa.
>>746486761>running a 5090 at 99%, 600W, just for a higer resolution face texture and more AOWow, incredible, that'll be $99.99 + nvidia kike tip!
>>746487058it's defienitely more AO & textures. it completley changes the lighting everywhere.
i wonder how borderlands or robocop looks with it enabled
>>746479517Kenshi
>>746487093>it's defienitely more AO & texturesNo it's literally not because that's literally all it can do, it cannot calculate lighting, it's an instagram tier AI slop filter.
>>746487138it doesn't need to caluclate anything it just needs to change pixel colors to be more pleasing to the eye. that's it.
>>746487138>it cannot calculateimage AIs are capable of, that is they DO, symbolically understand the thing they're "looking at" in a way that generates a coherent thought.It "knows" where the light source is supposed to be without needing to read the game's render engine.So dlss5 absolutely can and does shade what you're looking at with an awareness of the lightingyou can see it in all the examples that have fucked shadow, where it fixes it
>>746487093why are you poor and retarded?
>>746480386cope lol nobody will commission your furry porn anymore they get it for free
>>746487216I just tested P4 and I noticed it was adding AO/shadows to the 2D images lol. That's pretty crazy.It doesn't work well with this kind of game though since it affects the UI.
>>746487216So it's a filter.
>>746487015HDR > SDR conversionlooks fine in game
>>746479517Goodmorning saar. Videogame should look like videogame.
>>746479517AMDneets... our response?
Guerilla marketing should be illegal.
>>746487394look dude, go over to chatgpt, upload some random image into it, ask it to describe what's in the image, and then explain to you how an image ai understands that shit.it'll take 3 minutes of your time and then the veil will lift and you'll know this is more than a cheap (but expensive) party trick.it's way beyond a post process shader injector. way beyond.I've said in other threads I expect a fully developed DLSS5 to basically be capable of the same image as if the game was being pathtraced.
>>746487216>It "knows" where the light source is supposed to be without needing to read the game's render engine.So why does it add an extra blue light source from the front everytime then? It looks for color values on the screenshot to determine where the "light" and "shadow" is, thats all it does.
>>746487138I see changes in lighting here
>>746487487Things are defined by their functions. If it functions like a filter then it's a filter.
>>746479517Post 1 (one) woman who this tech doesn’t turn looking past her 40s
>>746487216It doesn't "fix" the lighting, it adds a new lighting on top that fucks over the original render lighting.
>>746487525Do what I asked.I can explain what an image LLM is doing in easy human words if you want. But just do the thing for yourself.
>>746479517So how exactly does it work?Does it hallucinate a slightly different face each frame?Is it going to end up looking like those early AI-gen videos that would continuously morph making you feel like you're in a mushroom trip?
>>746487561yep only those who understand lighting will notice
>>746487138are you retarded? it's ray tracing
>>746487603it just works, it's AI(magic)
>>746487615no its not its AI simulating what its been trained to believe ray tracing looks like in an overlay filter
what I don't get is why it completely changes the colours
Use it on your vulkan gamehttps://github.com/AlanBacker/dlss5-vk-bridge
>>746487615Ray tracing doesn't add additional light sources. Cloud is clearly in an evening shadow, but the DLSS5 adds some weirdass godly light source above him.
>>746487138It doesn't need to calculate lighting. It just has to receive the current image, which already has lighting applied and from that can generate a "better lighting" version of that image. I.e. it sees the objects lit from certain angles, and can infer a light source in some general directions.
>>746487662the cinematic preset applies a lut as far as I can tell, a lot of people are using that one since it looks the best even though the lut sucks
arkham knight was the peak of graphics and any improvements since then are completely useless and negligible.
I'm just not going to give my framerate up for this ok.
This game looks fantastic in motion with it, I bet the Xenoblade games will look really good too.>>746487667Damn they work fast. I guess we can use it with shadPS4 now.
>>746487561how did it fix the light leaking on the wall under the windows or the rim lighting on the gloves
>>746487615this >>746487661it's basically just an AI filter generating images on top of the gameit's pretty much just simultaneous image2image >>746487662because as the other anon said, it's an overlay, it doesn't care what was there beforeit's like playing a game and having someone draw really fast over the output before giving you the video
>>746487760it's basically just a really expensive reshade
>>746487658Wife
>>746487487That's a lot of words to just say it's a filter.
>>746487797Reshade is just post-processing, you really can't get the same results with just that. It does remind me of those GTA 4 REAL GRAPHICS ENB OVERHAUL mods from 15 years ago
>>746487487>it's way beyond a post process shader injector. way beyond.No it's not. It is literally, and I mean literally, a post process shader injector.
>>746487849>Reshade is just post-processingLiterally what DLSS 5 is, post-processing, AI slop filter over the top that's processing the image post render.
>>746487849>you really can't get the same results with just thatYes you can. You can inject RTAO, GI, anything you want with reshade.
>>746487760it's doing way more than that, if it was just img2img there would be no stability.it's looking at the entire render pipeline for the RT
>>746487824you're just a filter>>746487871you're just a post process shader injector
>>746487849eh it's just reshade taken to the extremeit is a post processor, just one that generates an image on top of your game
>>746487753It didn't. It just tweaked the contrast. Those areas are still way too lit. Its your fucking screenshot and you don't notice that?
>>746487894>>746487909Show me one reshade that actively changes face structure and textures. In real time, on all faces. Its doing more than just post-processing
>>746487909yea essentially looks like its an AI filter that tries to make the image look something thats been either native or injected via reshade with hdr, ao, lut tools, curves, levels, sharpening, etc then the AI attempts to give it a higher resolution texture on everything
>>746487913>it's looking at the entire render pipeline for the RTNo it's not; it doesn't even have access to the render pipeline as it's injected with renodx as a post-process effect. >>746487965>Show me one reshade that actively changes face structure and texturesDLSS5 isn't changing textures or facial structure it's all shading
Good Lord in Heaven save these niggers from their ignorance and coping.
>>746487965>Show me one reshade that actively changes face structure and textures.But DLSS 5 doesn't do either of those things, it's just a filter over the top, it doesn't change the underlying textures or geometry at all.It's just a post-process filter.
>>746485648Someone try this
>>746487965>changes face structure and texturesit's not affecting geometry at all, are you blind?you need to widen your mind, it literally is just advanced post processingit's not affecting the 3D rendering at all
>>746487965Retard. If it were changing facial structures (model geometry/meshes/normalmaps) or textures you wouldn't be able to use a slider to change its intensity in realtime. It's a post-process effect like a LUT.
>>746488025There's a good chance you're arguing with a third worlder who is literally being paid to convince people that nvidia's AI slop filter isn't an AI slop filter.
>>746479517It's an ESG filter. Why are you using it?
>>746488081turd worlders genuinely believe AI is magic, they don't need to pay these tards to defend them
>>746479517I just hope that when they release it officially it isn't fucking presets making it either unusable in most games because it makes them look like fucking shit OR the devs have to implement it and it makes you go down to 10fps
>>746487965Nvidia developer already confirmed its post-processing and DLSS5 takes a screenshot of the rendered image, it doesn't work inside the engine. Its a filter.
>>746487940coping retardchadvidia's AI slop filter is doing a better job than incompetent devs
>>746487965I'm in absolute awe at how fucking retarded you're being, like ooga booga tribe sees camera for first time tier retarded, you think DLSS 5 is magically changing game assets on the fly and you're conjuring up arguments that are real in your mind but that have zero basis in reality.Enjoy your AI slop filter.
>>746488069Jensen really should tone down the laugh line contrast. Makes every woman look 30 years older. Also I like how the filter can't decide whether the chest is illuminated by a hole in the ceiling, or if the ceiling is actually there.
>>746479517>makes everyone look 15 years older and that's about itidk man
>>746479517Always said so. I am done with retarded anti AI reddit niggercattle criticizing Nvidia's every new technology
>>746488081There is a strong possibility you are from a developing country and are not being compensated sufficiently to partake in the more luxurious aspects of gaming.
>>746479517>Somehow Nvidia think game devs will now build their stories and characters around their opinionBack to the GPUs factory foundry jeets
>>746488210>SHUT UP AND CONSOOOOMMMMM!
>>746488225holy disgusting uncanny valley
It seems he stopped replying since everyone clowned on him, but I'll illustrate anyway just so he doesn't pipe up again. This is contact shadowing and AO added purely with a post-process effect that doesn't have direct access to the render pipeline. It's effectively the same process as DLSS5, but not AI obviously.Comes with 0 performance hit btw.
luddites SEETHING
>>746482668The more you rely on AI hallucinations the less consistent and solid the experience becomes which directly impacts player agency. If the movement of objects in a scene depends on what the robot thinks looks realistic then you are not interacting with a robust digital world that you can achieve mastery of, you are just LARPing with a robot dungeon master
>>746488261Yes indeed. It looks good, so why shouldn't I? Company produces slopware => reject Company produces gems => accept
>>746488305You are retarded. We've seen plenty of footage of dlss changing even textures.
I'll support Nvidia when DLSS can shave my balls for me until then,Fuck off.
>>746488305WHO MAN, WHAT AI IS THIS? IT LOOKS SO REALCAN I RUN THIS WITHOUT LOSING 200 FPS???
>>746488336you're the retardall DLSS 5 is generate an overlay, of course it can change texturesit's taking a snapshot of what is already there and hallucinates whatever it was trained onliterally look into what img2img is the "breakthrough" with DLSS 5 is being able to do img2img in real time
I just hope it's possible to offload it to a third graphics card. Running Skyrim with LLM NPC's already requires a secondary card. So... I need a server motherboard now for me PCIE lanes. Probably a Gen 4 Threadripper
>>746488291>third world confirmed
>>746488336It doesn't change textures; it literally does not have the ability to do so as it's injected as a post-process.
>>746486258Let's see this hag on DLSS5.
>>746479517The best examples of this tech have been for FF14... maybe I will play it someday, or no because it's not f2p iirc.
kek it censors out swastikas
>>746488225>There is a strong possibility you are from a developing country and are not being compensated sufficiently to partake in the more luxurious aspects of gaming.I'm as first world as it gets and i've been enjoying the more luxurious aspects of gaming for decades, fuck I spent half the day on my 20k full motion rig.DLSS 5 is a post processing filter.
>>746488417we get it, you have shit taste
>>746488397>it's an ai gen hallucinating and rendering full photo quality textures and images in real time, which is like 100x faster than the nearest image gen. it's a 100mb file. It isn't an image gen.
>>746488305Good thing now is that we won't have to wait years for modders to fix the shitty lighting of a game
>>746488439>kek it censors out swastikasOf course it does, nvidia is jewish, and the entire point of this tech is to censor EVERYTHING you see in real time.
Access to the entirety of human knowledge in the palms of our hands and people still choose to be retarded.
>>746488449>DLSS 5 is a post processing filter.No shit sherlock. Did you figure that out on your own or did you google it?
>>746488397Yes, and? That's the whole point and why you are wrong, retardo. It's img2img, so it's not limited to "only AO" or whatever bullshit you are trying to pretend.The entire image gets touch up beyond what any single rendering technique can do.>>746488419You are too dumb for this conversation.
>>746488503I accept your concession. You are free to prove that it's editing textures in real-time. But we all know you can't.
>>746488472yes the rest is done on your GPU, dummy
>>746487913then why does it work on video files
>>746485834Damn, nice
>DLSS 5 takes a game’s color and motion vectors for each frame as input, and uses an AI model to infuse the scene with photoreal lighting and materials that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame. DLSS 5 runs in real time at up to 4K resolution for smooth, interactive gameplay.>The AI model is trained end to end to understand complex scene semantics such as characters, hair, fabric and translucent skin, along with environmental lighting conditions like front-lit, back-lit or overcast My own intuition has been saying what Nvidia themselves said about it.The thing isn't a simple post process injector.It's fucking aware of what it's seeing.
>>746488480>Of course it does, nvidia is jewish, and the entire point of this tech is to censor EVERYTHING you see in real time.This guy knows.
>>746488532does that mean it knows what I'm playing???
>>746488503It doesn't change textures. It adds realistic AO and specular. The controls for it are basically tone mapping controls and contrast settings
>>746487603A lot of the differences you get in AI are by design, they set a randomness factor on purpose so that if you open 2 agents with the same model you get 2 very different responses. In DLSS, this is randomness is removed so that you do not have random differences frame to frame.It does have access to some additional information, not just "here's a source image, work your magic, good luck!". It has a depth buffer, so it knows how far a pixel is, which is very valuable information when you enhance lighting and shadows. It also has access to the motion vectors, which tells the model something about what is moving in the image, so if you're looking at a mountain while an NPC is talking it's not going to keep regenerating the mountain because that part of the motion vector hasn't changed so it will look consistent.Source: https://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/Streamline/blob/main/docs/ProgrammingGuideDLSS.md#40-tag-all-required-resources
>AI is awareholy crap, nvidia invented AGI to make video game grafix better
>>746482196>distinct art stylesyou want every girl to have the same cutesy anime face, that's not distinct at all.
>>746488532>My own intuitionThey literally just said it's a filter in marketing terms and you fell for it.
>>746488532>he believes an LLM "thinks" and DLSS5 "sees"
The best thing about a 5090 is that you can choose whether to use it.
>>746488554Yes, the dude using it for a porn game now has that data on Nvidia servers
>>746488523Changing doesn't mean edit, retard. Not in rendering terms. What, do you think bump maps are magic?
>>746488527>they give you a firmare update while you weren't looking which stored a 2gb model on your GPUDid they do it to all the 30x0 and 40x0 series GPUs too because it's working on them too
>>746488585common semantic lexicon. easy rapid communication of the ideayou arent anywhere near as smart as you wish you were
>>746488532>It's fucking aware of what it's seeing.LMFAO my intuition tells me you're dumb and brown.
someone test it on this game
the tech illiterate retards getting dazzled by an AI filter sure can't help themselves from outing themselves as tech illiterate retards
>>746488336It changes everything because it operates on top of a screenshot of the game. Its a hallucinating filter on top that makes Chromatic Abberration look like a decent setting for a game.
>>746488596based
>>746488601>Changing doesn't mean editShift the goalposts all you'd like, you're fooling nobody. It does NOTHING to textures. It is a post-processing shader. That is it. Also not going to let you live down saying it changes facial geometry LOL
>>746488631Try not being retarded
>>746488585By "think", I mean "uses the input tokens to generate a probability space and generate the next token in a matrix", and by "see" I mean "sends all data straight to the company so they can sell it to advertisers"
I'll use it for porn games, that about it
>>746488630the seething amd troons and poofags are certainly getting upset over a new tech which they'll never be able to run
>>746488616>repeat what you said back to you>AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIE PSEUDO YOU'RE NOT SMART YOU'RE NOT SMART
>>746488532>nvidia says: it's a filter>anon: reee it's magic, it's fucking aware, it's sentient, it's changing textures and geometry in real time!
>>746482725>this is the 20 years old kid I was telling you about
>>746488702where does nvidia say it's a post process shader
>>746479517>jewvidea on damage control
>>746488715>where does nvidia say it's a post process shaderLMFAO this nigger can't read marketing drivel.
>>746488739>source I made it the fuck upfabulous
>Future of gaming graphics>Feed every frame through an AI video filter>Everything looks like a grok video nowYeah it's actually hilarious how bad this looks and people actually signed off on this. Gonna be sad when this gets forced into every game in a year and you have to go through hoops to disable it. Then you actually disable it and now the game still looks bad cause the devs relied on this shit for the look of their game. Man, when's society going to collapse? Feels like the only chance the video game industry has at this point.
>>746488658You are not even talking to the same person, moron. You are simply so retarded, more than one person had to tell you about it. Use your eyes and look at any example posted anywhere. Where do you think all the extra facial and texture detail comes from. How is that not changing texture?
well based on how hard they seethe when you say it looks bad or don't call it magic i can only deduce this board is filled with nvidia shills
I don't think the performance hits is that huge. Apparently upscaling doesn't work correctly so it's fucking dlss 5 dlaa and even the performance hit is a lot lower than with path tracing
>>746488753I'm just going to assume you're an ESL and you literally didn't understand the marketing drivel.
this shit is so cool how it works even on fmvs loljust adding shadows to 2d images in real time
all it does is give everything that ai slop sheen
what is the point of artists creating good looking games when jew companies are gonna put a filter on it anyway
>>746488753>sourceThe source is literally nvidia themselves saying it's nothing but a filter? Did you even read the press release anon posted here?>>746488532That clearly states it's just a post process filter that it runs on each frame of the game.
>>746488715you fucking goober! > a real-time neural rendering model that infuses pixels with photoreal lighting and materials.see, magic! no post-processing, you are confused because the processing happens in post. you are brown! esl! thirdie! amd snoy!
>>746488828You've been whining that games sucks for a decade
>>746488787Its just a cycle at this point. DLSS bad when it came out, now DLSS=GOOD. Framegen sloppa, now Frame gen=GOOD. Check back in 2 years for the 1080 on DLSS filter
If it's not a filter and has access to the render pipeline why can I inject it into a pre-rendered video playback and it work the exact same?
how do i use this?
>>746488849>he doesn't know that companies lie to sell products
>>746488631in that pic the two videos were out of sync and his eyes go all fucked up in the vanilla version too.
>>746488870well you see anon, because the AI is aware, it SEES what you see so it KNOWS what it's supposed to know :^)
>>746488745Peak GOOD MORNING SARR AI slop right here.
>>746488882what do you want to use it for? I can try to write a guide or link to help
>>746488868yea sure me who's been whining. Not the contrarian schizos on this board
>>746488870>If it's not a filter and has access to the render pipeline why can I inject it into a pre-rendered video playback and it work the exact same?FUCK YOU BLOODY BITCH BASTARD I FUCK YOUR MOTHER FUCK
>>746488902This is true. If you were given a static image of a tree, you would be able to say it's a tree. If you paste the same image into Gemini or Grok, it will tell you it's a picture of a tree.
It's funny that retards are, once again, missing out on something cool because they believe retarded bullshit from people trying to make new things look bad. It happened with remote streaming, with VR, and now happening with this.We truly live in a world where low-IQ people deprive themselves of everything nice.
>>746488958What retarded bullshit are you referring to, pray tell?Don't be scared, vagueboy.
>>746488958It's a reddit and artist psyop
>>746487294None of those shadows are consistent. You've got two or three different angles of lighting on the characters and then straight down shadows on the table right next to them, it's retarded.
>>746488947and if you show it a picture of a 20 year old japanese woman it sees a 56 year old korean grandmother
>>746488869Disagree, if anything DLSS was better when it came out cause games ran good without it at first. I was impressed with it in DMC5 for example cause without DLSS I was getting ~70fps and with it I could hit 120+. Now you got like MHWilds that barely ran without DLSS at launch. When this DLSS5 becomes a crutch that every dev uses, remember this moment, the end of video game art.
Will there be any remotely possible way to make this work on 3060 12gb?
>>746488958>It happened with remote streaming, with VRBoth were shit memes though? As was ray tracing, DLSS and frame gen. Are you actually retarded or merely pretending? Or just a thirdie shill paid to shill nvidia shit?Not getting paid to shill Stadia anymore? LMFAO
>>746488472>>746488532>that are anchored to source 3D content and consistent from frame to frame.And Anthropic CEO says they made a Skynet that is coding itself. Then the source code leaked and turns out its all coded by humans. 3rd world sweatshop workers making beep-boop sounds for clueless investors again.
>>746488958
>>746488971so a 360 and walk away
>>746488892>his eyes are wide awakened, he's not some filthy NPC, he's an ascended genetic error, deemed to be unreproductable by nature itself. An incel.
>>746488523Here anon, I have injected DLSS5 into your post as post-processing which has made the image of your post more realistic. Since this is post-processing I literally do not have the ability to alter your text, but you are free to try and prove that I'm editing your post in real-time. We all know you can't
>>746489007>thirdie shill paid to shill nvidia Nvidia would not need browns to shill, they have LLMs for that. Only brown people are angry at Nvidia, especially callcenter jeets, who will all loose their jobs
>>746488997It may do that, but a human can make a similar mistake.
this is the same goycattle kvetching you retards made when 1st gen dlss was shown on battlefieldin two years you'll be jealous of the guys with 6090s who can run it all at 100fpssame as when you were jealous of the new dlss and 3090tissame as youre jealous of pathtracing and dlss4.5+ on 5090sgo on let it all out, let out your 2 minutes hate, goy cattle
>>746488996it looks good in motion though, it's like when you enable RR in Crimson Desert. the game just immediately feels more modern.
>>746479517Gen ai is the best thing happened to mankind and I'm happy that it made trannies libtard communist antist seethe
>>746489108>AO off>AO onWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
it's crazy how much color it replaces with gray. it's reducing WORLD realism by turning everywhere in to a dreary overcast day in Bongland just to put the instagram filter over NPC faces.
>>746489057>can't prove me wrong so he resorts to seethingStay mad
>>746488715>>746488958>It's funny that retards are, once again, missing out on something coolHows your NFT stocks doing?
>>746489140dude it's a ps2 game that's cool. also most ps2 games before this didn't have any option for AO, and even if they did it would bleed through UIs and shit so it sucked.it's awesome now and works for every game
think of what it can do for the economy
>>746489149>it's crazy how much color it replaces with gray.Its because of the fake lightsource it adds from the front or above. Its this slightly blue-tinted studio light so everything becomes more grey.
>>746488982All the images from poorly configured setups or outright fake? Like these:>>746482725>>746483115>>746483265Those Halo images, for example. If you looked it up, the tranny who posted them said he made them ugly on purpose; pic related.>>746489007>idiot babbling from a moron that fell for the psyops>>746489151>unrelated BUT WHAT ABOUT LE BAD THING shit
>>746488426actually...
>>746489080>Nvidia would not need browns to shill, they have LLMs for that.Only LLMS are a fucking meme.>Only brown people are angry at Nvidia, especially callcenter jeets, who will all loose their jobsOnly brown people shill jewish tech, I do fully support the complete and utter total destruction of non-Whites with AI and automation though.
Why jew hate generative ai so much?
>>746489108Just looking at it in motion gives me a headache because there's no sense of distance or correct lighting since it's the equivalent of just running a fucking instagram filter over a video. The lighting is just "whatever the algorithm thinks fits", there's no rhyme or reason to it.
It looks the exact same as those AI sloppa thumbnails you see third worlders use everywhere lol
>>746489214Hold the fuck up, you thought remotely streaming games was good? For real? This thread gets funnier and funnier. The DLSS 5 shill thought Stadia was the future ahahahaha
>>746479517I don't want realistic graphics give me stylized graphics
>>746489151Reading the missing out seething is always fun. How is your AMD GPU holding up?
>>746489275>retarded casual only knows about Stadia and not, say, Moonlight or Steam's Remote Play Together or any other implementationNot interested in your ignorant opinion, sorry.
twitter sensationalist faggot thread. full of indians
Notice how the guys saying it has access to the render pipeline and is changing geometry and textures in real-time disappeared completely and now suddenly the posts are "you're just jealous, lying, psyoped"?
Someone post some dark souls 2 clips
>>746489224AI is the biggest buff for 1st world countries and biggest debuff for 3rd world countries that rely on low skilled manufacturing labor. The biggest issue in the 1st world is labor cost, which is why we pay so much to 3rd worlders to make everything for us. When AI takes over manufacturing, everything can be made within the 1st world countries itself. China going all in on AI is suicide, but a benefit to the 1st world.
>>746489253>It looks the exact same as those AI sloppa thumbnails you see third worlders use everywhere lolThird worlders are absolutely obsessed with hyper realism to the detriment of art.It's been known ever since brazillians started shoehorning 4k textures into san andreas in attempt to create the worlds first interactive digital puke.
>>746489378No? You simply pussied out of answering me >>746488785
>>746489332>Moonlight or Steam's Remote Play TogetherWhich still has 19-30 Ms input lag with best connections.
>>746489424It's a shader. Do you know what a shader is?Follow-up question: does it have access to the rendering pipeline?
Anybody got it to work in Crimson Desert or SW Outlaws? I can somewhat force it but I get graphical artifacts. It works in other games for me
>>746479517>muh AI slop filterKill yourself Ranjeet
>>746489465delete the settings in your reshade.ini to fix that. I was getting that earlier in some game i was testing
>>746482196>realistic warriors>all thin middle aged asian women with stick armsthe fuck
>>746487603AI faggot here. I deal mostly with researching and building AI agents rather than image rendering but I have a fairly good understanding of this.It doesn't generate each frame from scratch like AI video. It gets the actual rendered frame plus depth, motion vectors and previous frames, so it "knows" where objects and details are and how they've moved. It then uses that information to reconstruct the image.So it isn't going "that's a face, I'll generate a face" every frame. It can make reconstruction mistakes that cause ghosting, shimmering or incorrect details, but you shouldn't get the constantly morphing AI-video effect because it's heavily constrained by actual game data.It also doesn't modify the game's actual textures, and it's not simply a filter as some other retards are claiming. It's reconstructing the image produced from them using additional data from the rendering pipeline. That's why DLSS has to be integrated into the game, either by the developer or through a mod that can provide the required data. If it were just an AI slop filter operating on the finished frame, you could theoretically slap it onto any game, video or png.
>>746489465It works but goes green during dark scenes
>>746482813Raiden if he Jane Lynch
>>746479517Is it worth turning the settings down?
>>746489539>but you shouldn't get the constantly morphing AI-video effect because it's heavily constrained by actual game data.
>>746489539> If it were just an AI slop filter operating on the finished frame, you could theoretically slap it onto any game, video or png.But you can literally do that, as has been demonstrated in this very thread. People have overlayed it onto GTA6 footage, shown that it works during FMVs for games, etc.
90% of "DLSS5" screenshots are just people doing img2img gens on random image gen models but luddites are too retarded to notice
>>746489378You're both arguing past each other because you're both retarded and incapable of communicating properly:>>746488785>Where do you think all the extra facial and texture detail comes from. How is that not changing texture?DLSS5 is an AI-make-this-look-super-real-thank-you-sirs filter, which is applied to the final image AFTER the GPU has used the original texture and geometry data to make a real image of the videogame. Textures are part of the initial pipeline which creates the real image of the videogame, DLSS5 does not interact with textures nor does it need to interact with textures because all it does is alter the final image afterwards. You can model a duck, texture a duck, have the GPU render a duck, and then the DLSS5 Beaver-o-vision filter can still turn that duck into a beaver afterwards if it wants to, because it gets to completely remake the final image using AI image gen
>>746489573>Is it worth turning the settings down?That might honestly be the most interesting test to do with this meme tech.Compare the game at full settings without DLSS 5 then compare it at minimum settings with DLSS 5 turned on.See how the performance/visual clarity compares.
>almost every single game you can play on PC just got an Ultra +++ SSS graphical setting>/v/ is seethingIncredible.
>>746489424>>746489453Guys, it has access to these things: https://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/Streamline/blob/main/docs/ProgrammingGuideDLSS.md#40-tag-all-required-resourcesIt knows the depths of pixels (i.e. distance of each pixel from the camera, useful for lighting/shadows), it know when pixels move through motion vectors (useful for keeping consistency, not regenerating things that haven't changed).
>>746489597I'm trying to see what you're implying here and I just don't. I see the lighting lag behind the movement, but I'm not seeing anything about the face lose coherence.>>746489620well no, the funny part is some people are simply turning the lighting settings to off/low and claiming that's the dlss5 comparison
>>746489681>It knows the depths of pixels [...] it know when pixels move through motion vectorsReshade works this exact same way.
>>746489678Did you mean to post an example that looks fucking terrible?
>>746482196>>>/vg/579273640
>>746489539Pajeets trying to rewrite history now:https://www.techspot.com/news/111770-nvidia-confirms-dlss-5-relies-2d-frame-data.htmlhttps://youtu.be/D0EM1vKt36s?si=QNs8u-IYZjZnawGkDLSS5 takes a screenshot and then puts a filter on top. Nvidia spokesperson already confirmed it.
>>746489678it turned into a horror game?
>>746489681>Guys, it has access to these things>Read things>It's a re-shadeNo shit.
aijeets are like super agressive NFT sellerscant they just take a no and go away?>i-its da futurefuck the future>l-ludite!fuck you too
>>746489453How can a shader remove swastikas by itself?
>>746489727>but I'm not seeing anything about the face lose coherence.Then you're fucking blind. Look at the lips and the nose. They morph like the reception lady in Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas. The nose grows bigger when she turns her cheek, and her malformed rightside bigger lip shrinks.
>>746489224>Only brown people shill jewish tech,It's not jewish tech by any means. Most foundational papers are from people from EU/USA or Asia ("Attention is all you need") - none of them are jewish.
>>746489834>how can a shader change colors on a screen?I'll ask again: do you know what a shader is?And for the third time: does DLSS5 have access to the rendering pipeline?
>>746489858your brain must be confused because you're a lifeless autist who never looks at people or goes outsidethe geometry of the face is not changing
>>746480158>It's a neat experiment in technology but I hate it for actually playingSums up all developments in graphics technology since the early 2000's
>>746489941Stop smearing poop in your eyes Rakeesh.
>>746489941>tried to come off as a neutral third party who "understands AI">immediately starts seething and drops the facadenvidia is not sending their best lmao
DLSS 5 is the biggest leap forward in visual rendering in years. Why does reddit hate it so much? The cope there is unfathomable
>SARR>SARR>THE DLSS 5 LOOK JUST LIKE CLICKBAIT YOUTUBE THUMBNAILS SARR>FUTURE SARR
>>746490019its a jeet thinghiring them is a net negative in the long run and they will only notice when the house crumbles on them
>>746482306It runs at 55-60fps on fucking rtx 5060 8gb >https://youtu.be/0mJVcBa66V8
>>746489439You are stuck firmly in the past. This was from 2023, too.
>>746489657why would you think it would alter performance? It's on or off. The controls are just different amounts of contrast. You can set it so you can barely see it if you want, but what's the point?
>>746490048Desperately trying to conflate any criticism of thing with other hated thing is the most transparently browncoded marketing tactic you've tried yet.>only trannies hate DLSS 5>only reddit hates DLSS 5Pro tip shitskin we're more than capable of hating trannies, faggots, niggers, kikes, reddit and thirdie shills like you who shill nvidia marketing gimmicks.
>>746489797How does this dispute what I said?I didn't say anything about 3D environments or lighting, I specifically said it uses the rendered frame.
>>746490162>why would you think it would alter performance?Why would DLSS 5 alter performance? Uh for the same reasons other post-process filters do? It add more works for the GPU to do processing the frames after the game engine has rendered them.
>>746490146Just tested it 4 months ago. Street Fighter and any shooter game was still unplayable, the character moves like a drunk. I'm sure for a pajeet 3rd worlder like you it feels fine to play a game you cannot afford even if you have to put the difficulty on Very Easy because its nonfunctional.If Moonlight would solve the input lag issue which it can't because fixing it would require discovering FTL travel inside light cables, nobody would buy consoles anymore.
>>746490121>dips to 40 FPS at 1080p on a current generation cardlmao
>>746490163>criticismWhat criticism? People can see it with their own eyes. They can try it for themselves and come to their own conclusion. You haven't even tried it for yourself, you have no idea what the sliders can do, yet you think your opinion has more weight than someone elses who has been messing with it for the last couple of days.
Post process injection is baby mode, flat computing. Your shader set can only do 1 thing 1 way to all screen pixels.DLSS5 is a learning model, it's "visually aware".DLSS5 should theoretically be capable of turning any render output into any other based on the setup of the model.shader injected AO is again, flat computing. the effect it performs is the same effect it performs on all pixels at all times. ENB injection makes blown out highlights on a bright portion same as it makes blown out highlights on a dark or flat portion ("blown out" is how you get your AO effect)this is not what dlss5 does. you cant get the same effect from shaders. it doesnt matter that the pipeline is the sameai models are not fixed function programmed shadersget the fuck over it
>>746487058It runs way faster than pt on rtx 5060 so stop coping. Anyone with 50 series can run dlss5 even fags on laptop
>>746490163Your post essentially boils down to > no u Rajeesh. If you are not a jeet artist fag or codet about to loose his job, why are you seething so hard?
>>746490321>What criticism?Try reading the thread?>People can see it with their own eyes.Yes and we say it looks shit, which doesn't align with your shill script, hence your tears and damage control.
>>746490248I told you it's either on or off. If it's on it will be a fixed performance hike. It's not variable. It's not a "If I set the value to be 50% then it'll use 50% less GPU power"
>>746490321>People can see it with their own eyes.Yeah and it looks like ass.
>>746484328so what?
>>746490390>it looks like shitIt looks like shit to people invested into AMD and people who can't afford to run it. Those who can are enjoying it.
>>746490163>Desperately trying to conflate any criticism of thing with other hated thing is the most transparently browncoded marketing tactic you've tried yet.Yeah it's hilariously transparent.
>>746480158personally, even if everything worked and behaved as it should and with realistic animations, i do not WANT to play a game that has graphics this realistic, even when the game itself has realistic graphics on its own, you can still tell it's not achieving 100% realistic look, and that i like.the moment you push it to achieve 100% realistic look is the moment it's so jarrying(even if everything worked and behaved as it should with realistic animation), it becomes uncanny to the point i dont want to play it
>>746487467Preorder rdna5 lol, rx 9070/xt users will get nothing they don't even have working denoiser for rt
>>746490425>those who are retarded are enjoying itWe know.
>>746490390>we say it looks shitYes yes, keep repeating it, telling it to yourself, while I have fun with the new technology =)
The people pretending this shit looks good remind me of retards who can't play old games without downloading some fugly photorealistic 4K texture pack that turns the game into uncanny valley.
>>746490452let's see if I'm correct. post your HWINFO.
>>746490237>It gets the actual rendered frame plus depth, motion vectors and previous frames, so it "knows" where objects and details are and how they've moved.This part is wrong. It cannot gain that information from screenshots alone, which it takes. That is why it adds generic lighting from above or from the front in every single frame because it cannot do any light sources from the sides without them immediatly breaking when player moves the camera around. The whole reason why ghosting exists and is a constant problem with DLSS is because the AI tries to simply guess where the next frame is going to be and constantly gets it wrong.The only way it would work consistently with in-game light sources is if it would be part of the rendering simulation. But it isn't, its post-processing. So its going to keep guessing what "good detail" and "good lighting" should look like, based on billions of photos of studio lighting faces and objects.
>>746490393>If it's on it will be a fixed performance hike.Hence why I said it would be interesting to do a performance/visual fidelity comparison between a game on MAX settings with DLSS 5 off, and a game on minimum settings with it ON.You ESL retards need to fuck off already and stop shitting up discussion with you inability to read basic fucking English.
>>746484328How can pixels be real if our eyes aren't real?
>>746489803>>746489741So... what's the two of you disagreeing about? Now we all know what it has access to, the big difference is it's explicitly provided by the engine instead of inferred, and DLSS works in multiplayer (for obvious cheating reasons with depth maps). From my perspective this data is the same in the best scenario (may be lower quality / missing data due to outside inference of what buffers contain what data), but the data is inherently more valuable when fed to the DLSS model. ReShade operates with shaders in the primitive shader sense, while DLSS interprets these buffers and generates additional context (e.g. we have 3 lights, one is obscured by an object that is 30 meters away).
>>746490478you're balding
>using gifs for visual comparisons
>>746489916Notice how again the shills claiming it's real-time editing facial geometry and textures disappear and refuse to answer this while a sudden influx of "you're just jealous, lying" posts come in?
I cannot believe the amount of 30-40s age "adults" on this website who actually have not done anything more with their lives but play games, say nigger on 4chan, and watch animeand assert the imaginationland in their head has to be realityyou know horseshoe theory?I have my own horseshoe theorythose niggers you hate, you're all the way on the other end of the shoeso close you're both almost touchingthat's what you retards look like to normal peoplesome of us are complete peopleyou aren'tget the fuck over it
>>746490476>reeeeee people can see for themselves>NOOO, DON'T SEE LIKE THAT, DON'T SAY YOU DON'T LIKE IT>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEThe absolute state of you.Enjoy your AI slop filters, it's like i'm really scrolling jeetslop on jewtube.
>>746490494>YOU ESL RETARDSIf you weren't a fucking third worlder yourself you could test the performance out yourself.
>>746490295>That dirt smear under her nose.Have you been licking ass again, Faith?
>>746490537>Enjoy your AI slop filters,Yes, I am. It's amazing, and I’ll never play any compatible game without it turned on again.
>>746489810You literally can't run any game without DLSS these days, stop pretending you don't use AI
>>746490546>If you weren't a fucking third worlder yourself you could test the performance out yourself.If you weren't an ESL fucktard you could have read what I said and not made a fool of yourself.
>>746490586Nothing I wrote is incorrect. Why don't you run it yourself and see what the performance hit is?
>>746490532>seething off-topic projection
someone put this shit on a screenshot of Space Station 13/14
We need a Chinese style internet firewall. I'm tired of pretending these "people" are worth communicating with.
>>746482646Anon, what does sampling mean, do you know?
>>746490492you're wrong nvidia themselves say the dlss5 path is reading motion vectors, colorspace, normal (uv) mapsthis shit isnt rocket science
>>746490573>Yes, I am. It's amazing, and I’ll never play any compatible game without "Nvidia © DLSS 5™ (NASDAQ: NVDA)" turned on again.ftfy
>>746490637It looks good but expected it to look better. Then again the main game looks fantastic and it'd be difficult to improve on
>>746488480And you will love it and await jewish antisemite tast force taking you to jewish court and then jewish prison
>>746490537>AI slop filtersNvidia is one of the very few companies in that part of the industry actually advancing tech. You cant get away with slop on the hardware levels or lower levels of programming.
I'm not trans so I'm not going to use DLSS5
>>746490684Whatever makes you feel better being a seething poorfag
>>746490278Sounds like a skill issue to me. A bunch of fighting game players prefer to run their games through Steam Remote Play instead of online matchmaking because the former simulates couch co-op instead of dealing with the usual netcode problems. By all means, though, stay dumb.
>>746490701Trans people are codefags, they hate Nvidia
>>746490694>Nvidia is one of the very few companies in that part of the industry actually advancing tech.Ah yes, the same company that hasn't advanced shit since the 1080 and has just stagnated the entire industry with meme tech and blurry visuals.Thanks nvidia.
Why has no one ever shown a game actually playing with this shit on? Like not just walking around slowly but running, shooting, playing the game like you actually would. How does this shit look in motion?
>>746490629nah it's very on topic
>>746490727Nah Nvidia is trans
>>746490728HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA LMFAOOOO holy fucking shit, this is retarded in ways unfathomable. You definitely mastered baiting
>>746484062>>746483954>>746483993It's not integrated into the engine so it performs at about 1/4 the normal speed
>>746490742does youtube not exist in your dimension
>>746490742>How does this shit look in motion?Flickering shadows/lighting and everyone looks 30 years older, it also fakes light sources that aren't there.Best use of the tech might honestly be to just use it as a better AO post process filter, everything else it does is junk.
>>746490728>Ah yes, the same company that hasn't advanced shit since the 1080 and has just stagnated the entire industry with meme tech and blurry visuals.They hated him because he spoke the truth.>framegen>upscaling>raytracing>DLSSAll trash.
>>746489678Where are the colors Jensen??? You took everything from me!!!
>>746488182The gaylords posting these have control of that, they're setting it to 200%
>>746490637Top is too bright bottom looks cool
>>746490882Literally magic.
>>746490526>>746489916Still no answer btw!Notice how the more you call them out on their shill lies the more vaguepost seething happens?
>>746490637Oversharpened
>>746486356That's literally exactly what DLSS5 is doing.It's a real time img2img "grok make this look real" pass, which is why it looks like absolute ass.
>>746490882This is the end of GTA V realism mods, thank god.
now lets see all of this in motion? ....no? because it looks like shit?
>>746490882WE GOT GTA 6 BEFORE GTA 6
>>746491016It's a more than that, since it has access to depth maps and motion vectors. This provides valuable context to what is in the image, beyond pixels and their color.
>>746490492If it can see the current frame and previous frames, it can infer a lot of that. Not being given explicit 3D scene data doesn't mean the model has no information about the 3D structure of the scene. It can infer things like depth, surfaces and object relationships from the rendered frames and how they change over time.The thing it can't get accurately from a screenshot alone is the game's motion vectors. Those come from the rendering pipeline. You can see this in the DLSS 5 mods.
>>746491059>It's a more than that>it's more than a filter!It's just a filter.
Finally, now that visuals look realistic, game devs will be forced to invest time to improve game mechanics. Based Jensen =)
>>746488439uhh what game?
>you can now have 70% worse performance to add extremely porous sweaty skin to everyonewow, awesome. truly revolutionary
>>746491092>Those come from the rendering pipeline. You can see this in the DLSS 5 mods.They don't have access to the rendering pipeline. They're injected post final render (you know, post-process), as evidenced by the fact that they still work on video playback, FMVs, etc.
>>746491092>The thing it can't get accurately from a screenshot alone is the game's motion vectors. Those come from the rendering pipeline.No they don't, they literally come from comparing one frame with another.I hope someone is screenshotting all your lies and goal post shifting.
>>746491107>it's more than a filter!Who are you quoting? I agree it's just a filter, and you're right that it's similar to a "grok make this look real" pass, BUT grok doesn't have access to motion vectors and depth maps, which give a lot more context about the image.
>>746488528We're not in the days of SDXL anymore.With lower diffusion and using the source image as the basis for the latent, you achieve somewhat consistent results using the same seed. This is why it's stable between frames but not between shots.
>>746489797Like the day after this statement was made they published a correction because the source was some random spokesman who had no idea what he was talking about.
I dont actually believe a single person who claims "it looks shit". Not even remotely. This is just there tactical statement because they hate everything associated with AI, likely because they are artists or coders or ... anything that is threatened by big N
>>746491059It doesn't need them. All it needs are 4-8 previous frames. This is not new or revolutionary technology. The only remotely interesting thing about it is doing it in real time.
>>746491012*turns down the sharpening filter*
>>746491252*their tactical
>>746491252You either need to get your eyes checked or you're a literal soulless golem, because it looks fucking bad. It's uncanny in all the worst ways.
>>746489916>>746490976>does DLSS5 have access to the rendering pipeline?Some of it, but it's not as deep as people think. According to the projects on github it gets depth and motion vectors from DLSS.
>>746491181>BUT grok doesn't have access to motion vectors and depth maps, which give a lot more context about the image.You're talking about motion vectors and depth maps like you know what you're talking about and not like they've been used by things like AO for decades.-100 izzat sir
>>746491259It uses the depth maps to know how far objects are in the image. Knowing how far a lightbulb is in the image is very valuable information when altering the lighting and shadows. Knowing the past 4-8 frames doesn't tell you how far a lightbulb is.
>>746488480
>>746491252>I dont actually believe a single person who claims "it looks shit"Do you think picrel looks good?
>>746490701Trannies are the ones screeching on bluesky about this destroying artistic integrity
>>746491320>BUT grok doesn't have access to motion vectors and depth maps, which give a lot more context about the image.That's the point I want to make clear about your previous statement which is incorrectly equating pasting a screenshot of your game on Grok and telling it to make it real. Grok doesn't know how far a lightbulb is, the depth map provides that info, and DLSS has that info which Grok does not. If you don't know how far a lightbulb is you are just letting the model make a guess, which may be inaccurate.
>>746491259dlss5 isn't a temporal system, it takes the single prior output and does an img2img transformer on it based on the depth buffer, color buffers, motions buffer.it works in the same pipeline as post process shaders but is doing something way fucking different
>>746491363unrelated to the topic, but why is this specific font so common in AI generated shit recently? the part where it says "pitch black"? i see it even IRL in my country being used in advertisements and shit. its always that one for some reason
RAPEAPE YOU FUCKING NIGGER PUT THE IDS BACK RIGHT NOW
>>746491370So you're basically admitting that you're lower than a tranny.Grim.
>>746491317It also gets set per-object when integrated into the game engine instead of just being a naive full-screen filter
>>746491304It's made for NBA 2k27 and it's good in NBA 2k27. AI is supposed to be tuned for what you want it's not a one size fits all tech.
hypothetically a sufficiently advanced DLSS5 type of AI on sufficiently capable hardware would allow someone to give it a prompt like>turn all the main characters a through z into the main cast of original star trekor>make every npc a cel shaded chibi super saiyan 4 gokuand it would be able to do it flawlessly, because it's an image transformer. not a post process shader
>>746491461Yeah but I don't think that's from the pipeline, I think it's purely contextual awareness. I base this on absolutely nothing, but none of the git projects mention it getting object data.
>>746491498dudenvidialiterally saysdlss needscolor,depthand motion buffersto workstop being a sperg
>>746489468that really doesn't complement the game's underlying artstyleit just makes everything look like a really detailed clay model
>>746491440People using the same models, prompts, etc for their generations so it's one giant loop from the same pool of data. AI lovers aren't exactly known for their creativity and high amounts of effort.
>>746491478It has no access to meshes or geometry, it can't do that. It would need to be a completely different thing. You're basically talking about real time video to video.
>>746491476Nice moving of the goalposts.Even before this "leak" being used on anything and everything, the stuff curated and put out by Nvidia for makreting looked like complete fucking ass.
>>746491603the text machine uses symbol encoding to figure out what the images are, it can figure out how to infer that level of redrawing from the motion vector and depth bufferi did say hypothetically advanced enough
>>746491592yeah of course i know that, its just interesting that it consistently seems to generate that font and that font alone, besides the common fonts, of course. cant believe people take AI seriously as a creative tool, still.
>>746491537dudenvidialiterally saysthe 5070 is4090 performancefor $549
>>746491537Did you reply to the wrong person? Nothing you said mentions object data at all. I also don't care about what Nvidia says. I care about what the open sourced projects on git say.
>>746491478>and it would be able to do it flawlessly, because it's an image transformer. >not a post process shader>it's an image transformerSides in fucking orbit.It can't do anything you've suggested because it's just a post process filter.
>>746491440The font? That's what caught your eye? Not the same overdetailed and oversharpened look?It's fucking unreal how people don't seem to notice this.
>>746491687yeah my b
>>746491631NBA 2k27 looks good thoughI get that you're an AMD copemaxxer but you can start saving up now for the 6xxx cards that will also be able to handle this tech a lot easier
>>746491660>its just interesting that it consistently seems to generate that font and that font aloneI mean look at what it's doing to the images people are posting ITT about games. Look at enough faces and you'll see the exact same "lighting" methods and forms of contrast/occlusion applied everywhere. AI is still very, very dumb and lacking in variance.
>>746491690no dude of course i noticed this, i just wanted to specifically refer to the font, because ive seen stylistically different images used in advertisements but that font is used a lot in particular. chill out, dude. an example: im norwegian, and right outside my gym there is a football field and there was a big ad featuring an AI generated image of Haaland in a shitty minimalistic sketch style, but the same font as that picture was used underneath to say some bullshit. its always that fake shitty "wild" font like that.
>>746491660>cant believe people take AI seriously as a creative tool, still.It's a shortcut for lazy people who don't care about end quality.So naturally greedy executives and Indians are all over it.
>>746491690>The font? That's what caught your eye? Not the same overdetailed and oversharpened look?>It's fucking unreal how people don't seem to notice this.Non-Whites eyes are fundamentally different, they're vision is hilariously fucked, they also have terrible night vision and are terrible with discerning colours etcIt's something all commercial pilots learn about and i'm convinced it's the reason as to why they love all these horrible filters, especially the overly saturated re-shades etc
>>746491440>>746491853It has a set number of fonts it can draw from. It's not generating fonts on the fly
>>746479517>This is unironically way bigger of a leap in tech than Raytracing.Ray tracing was actual tech (albeit with minimal returns and a massive performance overhead), this is just an AI slop filter.
>>746491853Text is very difficult for diffusion models to do because of how they work. Funnily, the more rough and scraggly it is, the more likely it is not to fuck it up.
>>746491689Should be possible. Developers already have the ability to control which objects get affected by DLSS 5 neural rendering, which is data the game itself provides to the model to tell it to not work its post-processing magic on specific objects. Given that the game can provide it semantic data like this, and depth maps tell it how far objects things are, the natural next step is to give even more semantic context to developers. And once that happens, it's only a matter of time until mods are able to hook into that semantic context and users can modify/append to that context.Source (search for "DLSS 5 can be controlled per object"): https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-details-dlss-5-three-models-per-object-controls-and-single-gpu-support
>>746492150DLSS 5 cannot change geometry or textures, it's a post process filter.
>>746492193Huh? It does change textures... just look at the screenshot comparisons, the textures after the post-processing are clearly different. Not geometry though, that would be bad if it changed geometry, this is what the depth maps and motion vectors help prevent from happening.
>>746492150My suspicion is that it's creating a 2D alpha mask based on what it's told to alter and what not to.It's the easiest way to do it and is easily pulled from a deferred rendering pipeline.That would make what you're describing much harder to do unless it expands the mask which would introduce weird halo'ing issues.
>>746492290>Huh? It does change textures... just look at the screenshot comparisons, the textures after the post-processing are clearly different.If I scribble over a screenshot of your game in MSpaint I am not changing the textures.I'd like to congratulate you on making nvidia shills look fucking retarded and dishonest.
>>746492290>Huh? It does change textures... just look at the screenshot comparisons, the textures after the post-processing are clearly different.Actual retard.
>>746492290>Huh? It does change textures... just look at the screenshot comparisons, the textures after the post-processing are clearly different.The texture isn't being changed, the texture is the exact same. A shader is being applied on-top of the existing one.
>>746492331Nobody is saying the original textures are edited in real time... goalpost movers I swear
>>746492387>Nobody is saying the original textures are editedExcept you because you're a lying faggot.>>746492290>Huh? It does change textures.
>>746492387>It does change textures>Nobody is saying the original textures are edited in real timeThen what are you saying? There is no edit, whatsoever, being applied to the texture. A shader is being applied directly over it.
>>746492369The end result of the final rasterised frame is the same as changing the texture, but it's not actually altering the texture data itself.
>>746492418If you're unwilling to understand what I'm saying, and only interpret in a way that's favorable to your moved goalpost, then ok you can explicitly reject my clarification and pretend you won :).
It's funny how the luddites say "it's just a filter" when that actually makes it more impressive. if we assume it to be a quickly computable (say, much lower than O(n^ 2)... Interpolating realistic visuals from much less realistic images by a filter with such a low computational cost (fps cut in half is very cheap, computationally) is an incredible technological milestone That part is going to make some anons seethe harder but: Nvidia is worth every cent of its stock market value
>>746492438Yeah, I agree with you that the original texture is unmodified, except that the output image has an obviously modified representation of the original texture, is what I'm saying.
>>746492491*if we assume a filter to be something quickly computable
>>746492476The moment you have to bring left/right discourse into a discussion about whether a filter looks bad or not, you're essentially admitting defeat. faggot
>>746492532And now you're moving to goalpost to yet another thing, that I lost because of something unrelated to the original discussion. It's impossible to have a discussion when you just keep moving the goalpost.
>>746492491It's impressive on a technical level.The problem is the results look bad.Being able to suck your own dick while pushing a dildo in and out of your own ass while writing poetry with your spare hand is also technically impressive.
>>746492524>except that the output image has an obviously modified representation of the original textureThat's just a misunderstanding on your part, then. You obviously have come to the conclusion that the texture data is unmodified (and inaccessible, at that). The result is a modified representation of the *image*, not the *texture*. You're simply correlating unrelated aspects of the final image.
>>746492589I agree with your explanation of what I meant to convey. Thanks for clarifying my thoughts, and I did mean what you described, but you chose disagreement instead of understanding. But now you see we're on the same page.
>>746492476>interpret your statement explicitly, as it is literally stated>YOU'RE JUST PRETENDING TO NOT UNDERSTANDDisingenuous at best, intentionally dishonest more likely. You're deflecting from having your statement being taken at face value and claiming someone is "moving the goalpost" (a completely unrelated and inapplicable logical fallacy) to deflect from taking accountability for a false statement. Childish argumentation.
>>746492640>Childish argumentation.True. So when are you going to fix that about yourself
>>746492491>Nvidia is worth every cent of its stock market valuePut the entirety of your liquid worth into it and post proof.
>>746492583>The problem is the results look bad.I checked Shadow of The Tomb Raider and Skyrim, looks very good to me. I am not saying there are no bad results, after all, it's not even officially released yet. Later I will try to get it to run on my Linux machine
>>746492684>no uMore deflection. I accept your concession. I'm uninterested in going around in circles with you.
>DLSS 5 ON
>>746492491>(fps cut in half is very cheap, computationally) is an incredible technological milestoneYou can inject RTAO, RTGI, and a plethora of other realtime visual solutions into a game that are completely transformative for the final image -- without relying on proprietary AI software injection -- at a much lower cost than this. It's hardly a "technological milestone" unless you've been living under a rock for over a decade.
>multiple passes of DLSS 5lollmao evenPC MASTERRACE
>>746492859>You can inject RTAO, RTGI, and a plethora of other realtime visual solutionsAll of which have access to motion vector, depth buffer, etc, btw.Not per-object but so far that is an "alleged" from Nvidia and isn't actually provable in practice.
>>746492903>multiple passes of DLSS 5what does this even mean?
>>746492927its like if you wear multiple glasses
>>746492949But that's not how DLSS5 works, you can't make it do multiple passes.
>>746492992yes you can
>>746492729You won bro :), enjoy the concessions, sleep well knowing that, man that one time I moved the goalpost, I won so hard!
Lets all laugh at the retards melting their 5090s just to put an AIslop filter on their games one last time.
>>746493047>i'm totally not mad :)))))lmao
>>746492491im not really interesting in furthering the wealth of the 0.0001% while everyone else suffers. when sam altman says shit like "AI will probably destroy humanity, but we'll have some great companies along the way" then i am not on your team. why support technology made for people who hate you and want to subjugate you?`i am a human being. not just cattle for consooming in a pod all day. just because you are a nihilist with fucked up dopamine receptors does not mean i am
>>746493115>that will be a 80% performance decrease, please!
>>746493169lol
>>746493169>80%Come on now. It's only a 68% performance reduction
>>746493169You can achieve the same look with reshade with only using 2% of the power too.
>>746493112>I'll just completely ignore all these statements and decide your opinion for you!>>746492387>>746492469>>746492524>I didn't move goalposts
>>746493131> people who hate you and want to subjugate you?`Their will is irrelevant eventually, SAI will eliminate them as well. In the meantime, we can enjoy the fruits of their labour >just because you are a nihilist with fucked up dopamine receptors does not mean i amThat seems like a projection. I am not nihilistic whatsoever, I appreciate the opportunity to see life evolve past humanity.
>>746493231You're a coping AMDfag. This is better than every texture mod and every reshade shader combined
>>746493341Lol no, it looks like obvious AIslop dogshit.
>>746493231The DLSS5 implementations all require reshade though. Can you show me some reshade mods that look as "good"?
>>746488305based anon teaching these braindead cattle about 2015 techniques that used to be common sense before xer/xim/saar took over
>>746493494Every reshade preset in existence is better because it doesn't make everyone look like a 30 year old.
>>746493592Just disable it for faces. I like how it improves environments though.
>>746488419>it doesn't change the textures>>746490882>Michael's face obviously has different textureSo, what's that about?
>>746493657At the cost of 80% of the framerate along with killing your GPU.
>>746493725>Improved fidelity costs frame rateHuh
