Oh my gosh! Is that you? Everyone was worried sick about you! When you didn't show up and didn't call and nobody knew anything about what happened to you - we thought you were dead! Are you okay? You know what, never mind, we have to help you.
>>746556049Bitch I was in line at the store for 2 minutes and wasn't going to be rude by expecting everyone else to wait on my time while you refused to shut up
>>746556049btw prettiest girl in the entire game. wonder if devs intended for her to become player's childe or not
>>746556049Sam was living comfortably and visiting fancy restaurants in hollywood while we were crawling santa monica alleys for club slutsI can't just ignore thatWe wouldn't have gone missing if she had just let us crash on her couch and smashCarry the weight of your sins, Samantha.
>>746557547That would be a pretty big feature to have.
>>746558414i got your big feature right here camboiTHIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY SABBAT GANG
>>746558473>THIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY SABBAT GANGhehe
>>746556049 (OP)I had really hoped this would have developed into something interesting, but no, she just calls and that's it, there is no quest or story progression there at all. Such a missed opportunity.
>>746556049This was such an inspired moment, really forces you to commit to the type of vampire you’ve become and forsake your past life and loved ones. I wish there were more moments like it, maybe have a couple beat cops stop you and say you look like a recent missing person or something
>>746556049Where can I find a Samantha gf?
>>746559381>>746559424this. i really felt the moment when i encountered her, really, most soulful moment in the game that spiced errand boy story of protagonist
>>746556049>>746559381>>746559930What do you expect? If you interact with her, you'd break the Masquerade. There is no way back for you to your old life. I guess the devs could have given you a bad ending, if you go with her back to your old life.
>>746560369You lose one mask of masquarade if you let her call, but I feel like they could make it into a longer quests, but you lose another mask with each step so you're kind of forced to either actively make up for the losses or just give up at some point and probably kill your former friends to recover some of the lost masks. Could be interesting and it would be a perfect use of the in-game masquarade mechanic.
>>746556049>I was uhh my phone died im ok no need to worry
>>746561387do you still get that scene as a nosferatu? is it changed at all?
>>746556049She's cuter than Heather
Gangrel Gang
>>746556049NO, DON'T YOU REMEMBER ME? I'M YOUR PET TURTLE, FROM WHEN YOU WERE A KID.
>>746561545Reporting in.
show me your titties
Is there a GOOD HD texture project similar to Deus Ex's HDTP / New Vision? I mean a texture pack that at least tries to keep the game's style and not DLSS5 that shit
>>746561483It doesn't happen at all.
>>746561545Best clan.
>>746559381Crunch time, please understand
>>746561545What animal is your Gangrel Fursona. I like cats
>>746559381Its meant to be a cold shower moment, throughout the whole game you've been doing vampire shit and suddenly there's this random woman who comes and reminds you that you had a life before all this, but that life is over and that person is gone. It's sadkino.
>>746559381but that is the point, your old life is gone, and shes just a reminder of that. they could have tried to make it into some quest but that would ultimately ruin the whole pointthe masquerade is your life nowi will admit it did hit me pretty hard also, such a small moment but really impactful. shows the devs really knew what they were doing
>>746559381>ugh why cant you go into every building?!
>>746561545i feel like gangrel and that wolf historian guy connection should've been expanded more. maybe he teaches you more or he has some more presence
>>746566758>be walking down the street about to meet the baron and figure shit out>get called out to>it’s a woman>she knows me>she shows genuine concern and worry>to her I am a person, someone she knows and cares about >she has no ulterior motive behind her actions >she doesn’t want my blood>she doesn’t want me to sneak into a haunted hotel>she doesn’t see me as just a pawn in a larger game>she just wants to see if I am okay>can’t tell her anything or else she would just get killed, or worse>tell her she’s got the wrong person>she’s not buying it>eventually manage to convince her>she walks off >she knew me once, but it’s better if she forgets>like I was never here
>>746559381>>746566758>>746568351What makes Samantha feel authentic like Cyberpunk's Jackie feels hamfisted? How do I make players feel genuine care for characters?
>>746569142If you mean tabletop, players will bond with extremely arbitrary shit. I wouldn't put much effort into making a designated "Nice Character" for them to fall in love with and care for. Just take whoever they've already bonded with and use that character.
>>746569483Not necessarily in tabletop, VtM video games in particular
>>746569142if you think jackie feels hamfisted, thats because he ishe shows up out of nowhere and shit goes wrong, then you talk a bit, and then que fast forward like 3 months of relationship and suddenly you're best friendsyou dont get to experience them connecting and becoming friends, its just skipped suddenly and you have to accept it. this is also seen in movies and shows, sometimes when they want to set up a relationship between two characters, instead of writing dialogue, they just fast forwad into a montage and now they are friends/a couplesamantha feels genuine because the dialogue is well written and well delivered, and you can tell there is history between the twoin this case though, the circumstances around the masquerade make it sad
My main gripes about Bloodline is how Presence can't be applied in Dialogue. What bullshit
>>746561545We're watching.
>>746559381Unfortunately, the game was straight up unfinished. >>746569142Samantha doesn't have any character traits that could end up annoying people. She's someone from your past that cares about you. There's no time to establish anything more than that, but your brain fills in the blanks with whatever it finds the most fitting. She's more of a platonic ideal of a loved one than a character, and that's why her scene hits like a freight train.
>>746558473What the fuck is wrong with the Tzimisce, seriously?
>>746577212There are a few competing theories as to why the Tziggers are like this. >Vicissitude is actually a spiritual disease that alters one mentally, much like how rabies alters its host. >Their Antediluvian speaks through the blood to them and commands them to be monstrous and twisted, all to further its own esoteric goals. >They basically became a parody of themselves by embracing too many of their Revenants (comically inbred congenital ghouls).Interestingly, it's not just the eastern euro Tziggers that are like this. All Tziggers are like this.
i would have said to Samantha saidoh i'm feeling fine these days my good friend, bleh!!
>>746564072Can gangrel shapeshift into bugs?
>>746577907The Anezka memory sequence in the Tzimisce tunnels before you fight Vukodlak was genuinely haunting, I really wish we had more VTM games like Redemption.
>>746578070Well they can shapeshift into fish so why not.
>>746574927I think if the game had been given a bit more time in the oven, they'd have been able to add more discipline prompts in dialogue, as well as rebalance Seduction and Intimidation to have more prompts. Unfortunately as it stands, Persuasion is king.
>>746566758OH NO NOW I LIVE FOREVER EXPERIENCING THINGS NORMALS CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE Seriously being a vampire is pretty cool and if you ever get tired of it just walk out into the sun.
>>746562802It sucks all the Sovl out.
>>746577907>>746578156>VukodlakI love the sheer fucking gall of this tzigger.
i installed unofficial patch plus and the sound is kinda lower than usual, also yes i have the same headphones and sound levels as before, i played this game like 3 times and this 4th the sound is iffly low, not bad but kinda 10%lower
I don't understand why Nosferatu are written as living underground and hidden and shit but Tzimisce aren't even though their fleshcrafting makes them just as inhuman
>OH NOES! THE MASCARADEEEEE!!!what's up with every single one of you being a camarilla cuck. fuck you.
>>746584121Well, if you break it too often you lose the game, so the Camarilla is literally correct in game terms
>>746584212game limitations dont dictate WoD's rules.The sabbath doesn't give a shit about the masquerade.
>>746584349The Sabbat pretty much does follow their own version of the Masquerade, they just do so with the excuse that "Someday we're totally gonna take over guys!" where as the Canarilla intends to stay hidden forever.
>>746556049This was a great scene. The best possible outcome is using Dementation to convince her to go back and tell all of your friends and loved ones that you're dead and to stop looking for you, that's the happy end. Really easy to forget you're not Mainguy McProtag with amnesia, your character was living a perfectly normal life and got dragged into all of this unwillingly, but doesn't have the capacity to give a shit anymore.
>tell reporter that you're a vampire>one masquerade violation>reporter makes a documentary and shows billions of people that vampires exist>no masquerade violation cause I didn't do itggez
>>746584121Imagine meeting Final Death just so some Tzigger can glue the homeless together forever. Your entire unlife exists to generate NEETbucks for Tzimisce.
>>746585135Theres no way that Reporter is living long enough for that to work.
>>746585182Actually I'm not sabbat I'm anarch, a-and I don't like those stupid camarillas at all, baka!
>>746577782Don't forget that Vicissitude might also be connected to some alien mind virus as well that turns you nuts over time
>>746585714The Anarchs are basically a loose confederation of people too immature for the Camarilla and too human for the Sabbat.
>>746586179>Too imnature for a literal ponzi scheme
>>746586560It's not a ponzi scheme by definition. The anarchs have a habit of calling any form of hierarchy a ponzi scheme, but that doesn't make it true. The Camarilla doesn't require you to "pay into" it at all. All it asks of any given vampire is to obey the traditions. Neonates often do work for Elders in order to curry favor with the far more powerful vampires. It's a quid pro quo system and everyone in Bloodlines does it, including the Anarchs. In fact, Isaac, an Anarch invokes the medieval rite of tribute when you enter his domain. There is no Tradition that states Camarilla vampires must tithe labor or resources to their Elders. If anything, the Camarilla's formalization of boons enshrines a younger vampire's right to be compensated for their service to an Elder. Princes are parochial magistrates who are given immense discretion in how they administer their domains. The Camarilla higher ups only really care to replace one directly if the Masquerade is threatened. A bad Prince can be couped, and the Inner Circle won't care so long as the new one upholds the traditions. Anarchs are basically those who are incapable of hacking it in the closest thing to a functional system vampires have ever created, and so they want to tear everything down in a childish temper tantrum.
>>746583894The mind of the Tzigger is truly inscrutable. After all they surround themselves with rotting flesh despite possessing the super-sense discipline. The truth is that Tziggers don't want to be hidden. They want you to see their weird penis shaped head, their horrid bolt-on tits, digitigrade legs, and webbed fingers. They're the vampire equivalent of drag queens, whether it's your forced adulation or visible discomfort, they want to see it. Tziggers only stay in the shadows reluctantly, to avoid Final Death at the hands of mortals or other vampires. But they still prefer remote mansions to the sewers out of a twisted sense of pride. This is why they created the Sabbat btw. A sect of rubes, slurping down their disgusting vitae and throwing their unlives away to continue the Tzigger's miserable anachronistic existence. A sect made in their twisted image, where even goodly lineages are driven to acts of perversion and beastdom. The Sabbat are just the paypiggies bankrolling Tziggery of the highest order.
>>746585135Would the vampires be better off if they came out to the world? Vampirism could be treated like a disease and they could get discounted blood packs from the health system.
pisha
>>746585963Would
>>746585963It's alien shit now? In older editions it was the Tzimisce antediluvian who basically turned himself into a virus
>>746587168>The Camarilla doesn't require you to "pay into" it at all. All it asks of any given vampire is to obey the traditions. Neonates often do work for Elders in order to curry favorkek
>>746590458that you cut the sentence off where you did merely shows your dishonest, Anarchoid. You still end up currying favor with the oldfags in the anarch parts of L.A.
>>746590340It was never confirmed what exactly made Vic weird. He's talking about the infamous "Space AIDS" explanation which I skirted around to avoid summoning any miggers.
>>746590670Lacroix was literally going to chop your head off because your sire made you without groveling for permission first. No Maswuerade violation, waiting for you to awake to teach you. But muh trafition.
>>746556049I'M GONNA SMOKE THE WEREWOLF BLOOD AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME HOOWAAHHHHHH
>>746577782Now I am curious, have there been Tzimisce antitribu of note that were actually decent individuals and fought the primal urge to make flesh golems and furniture out of people?
>>746591136>Lacroix was literally going to chop your head offAnd he didn't because of the system of checks and balances within the Camarilla preventing his whims from being absolute law. You think an Anarchfag would've hesitated to flex his power?
>>746559381Do any of the mods let you expand this encounter? Like make a choice between leaving her go like in the base game as just a poignant reminder of what you used to be, vs either A) forcibly bring her into the vampire world and make her as a ghoul, make her a childe or other choices. She's upset about it but bound to your will and your responsibility - plus you have to prove that you were not acting like a shovelhead creator and that she is useful in some way lest the higher ups get upset or B) take the time to heavily hint that you're different, the life is different and she SHOULD fuck off for her own safety. However if she persists, you will protect her..but it will mean she'll have to make a similar sacrifice and her life will be different (no matter if that's ghouling her or turning her into a full childe) and she can make the decision or fuck off. Depending on how you explain it, what you do, she may react in ways to come with you voluntarily, end up freaking out, or even trying to backstab you and you need to sadly put her down - another loss because of your fuckup.
>>746591313>>Lacroix was literally going to chop your head off>And he didn't because of the system of checks and balances within the Camarilla preventing his whims from being absolute lawHe only didn't because Nines started making a scene. Nothing within the Camarilla prevented him from doing it.
>>746567573Beckett is an incredibly untraditional Gangrel, his interests surpass his clan which he has no real connection to. Having him single you out or give preferential treatment because you're a gangrel (lamest clan btw, second only to brujah, clearly a lot of retarded furries in here) would make no sense.
>>746559381The tabletop is just an excuse for good, christian bois/girls to act as degens in fantasy. Ofc a character that represents 'normal' ain't gonna get anything worthwhile.
>>746589418Why did they call her penis
>>746588074they're somewhat known but at the same time a lot of them are like jews where they brainwash the public while staying in their tunnels
>>746569142Jackie is a character which is persistent in the prologue and is basically cut content man. You get the feeling that all of the shit that happens between you getting to Night City and the job was supposed to be playable so they treat him like he is this character that you got to know. But there is a clear disconnect to that since all you get is a montage. Whereas Samantha is just there for what is effectively a moment, she is a reminder that you were once a living breathing human with friends, family, a job, a life, hopes, and dreams. And now you’re a walking corpse who has to prowl in the shadows draining the very life essence from others. Caught in a deep web of schemes and nonsense which you struggle to piece together. Like another anon said, it’s a cold shower moment, you’re doing your badass vampire shit when suddenly you get slapped by the game and it says “no you’re not just some supernatural predator, you’re cursed thing which wanders the earth and cannot form any real connections due to the fact at any moment your fellow kindred could fuck you over, your ghoul just wants you for your blood, and any normal people must be kept at an arms length for both your and their own safety.” Being a vampire in WoD is pretty shit when you get past the glitz and glamor.
>>746556049Are you ready for the DLSS 5 remake?
>>746558473Are you ready for horrors you can narrowly comprehend?
>>746592271I hate this
>>746591602>no connection to his clan>of isolationists
>>746591136>>746591554Was it 100% confirmed that he would've killed us had Nines not intervened?
>>746592271Still would
>>746592081Just say you wanna fuck him there's even mods for it
>>746592081considering the hair style a malk starts with, I don't think he was ever normal
What the fuck to do to get kino of such proportions as the original and why is this fucking IP cursed with sheer retardation now
>>746556049why does she look like the bitch from seinfeld?
>>746592418It's been a while but I remember he started with "Unfortunately" when it came to what he was planning to do with (You). It was pretty obvious that he read the room and did a last second pivot. Lacroix would have made a great politician.
>>746592514What are you talking about? I’m just pointing out his role in the story.
>>746556049Fuck you it's not October yet IT'S NOT OCTOBER YET
>>746592417Fair, but he's particularly unique because he's closer to the Noddists and vampire historians than he is to any clan or sect, so I was just pointing out that it'd make no sense for him to give preferential treatment to a Gangrel, especially since he's about as non-Gangrel as they come personality wise.
>>746578156>>746577907is redemption actually good? How much choice is there?
>>746592619>step 1Hire people that look like this and aren't infected with modernity brainrot like Caine currently is.>step 2Don't control your horny level (straight, male)>step 3Focus on making a fun, cool game over some movie slop>step 4Don't take blackrock money.Simple as.
>>746591136Laws exist for a reason. If anyone could create a vampire whenever they wanted out of anyone, the masquerade would be shattered, the city would be killing itself over the limited blood supply, and everyone gets dusted. You need to enforce these things. Every so often the poor childe may receive clemency, but laws exist for a reason. >>746591305Not in the Camarilla. Though one book tried to create an offshoot of the Tzimisce that rejected Vicissitude and hunted down their corrupted kin, but most of the fans at the time absolutely hated that book in its entirety.
>>746592418Nines wouldn't have intervened if LaCroix wasn't about to execute you as well. You can see after that happens that LaCroix is looking around and thinking about his next move. It's also why LaCroix keeps sending you on suicide missions.
Malk Gang!>>746559930Also this. It came outta nowhere and, having only played the game once, I still remember this encounter and how my character said her pet turtle walked away or something. It was neat.
>>746592271>made her white
>>746593079i don't think she looks white but she's noticeably paler. DLSS seems to remove color for some reason and it looks bland.
>>746592081I did like Jackie, he absolutely feels like the guy who's supposed to be in the car doing missions with you for most of the game.It feels like that was the plan right up until CDPR got the phone call that Keanu was on board.
I'm schizophrenic and can't tell whether you people are actually larping or if all of this is real, either way fuck this thread, I'm leaving.
>>746577212The Carpathian mountains literally turn Transylvania into real mordor, both historically and culturally. It is central Europe's appendix, harboring a people who never got the memo that rome had fallen, never really met them much anyway and still elected to larp as them.Much like every other mountain killbox or path on the planet, it turns the people who live there into basically sociopaths. Thus the native Tzimicse bear a curse worse than any of Caine's Childe: Being fucking Romanians.
>>746593431It doesn't matter if it's real or fake anon. It only matters if you bought it.
if you snitched on Mercurio, you are a fag and not my nigga
>>746593079if you pull your head out of your american ass you'll realize that there exist way more categories than white or non-white. she's clearly meant to be mediterranean so greek, spanish or italian from the south.
>>746588074I know there's literally this but for werewolves around. If I remember right they're literally called "DNA" or something stupid. >Random nerd in a lab encounters a fucked up confused werewolf in cringe form in his lab.>Concludes werewolves are just a genetic defect. Doesn't go all Technocracy, stolen moon or dystopian, just goes "well that's fucked up I bet we can cure it">Genuinely spends the next few decades cataloguing, capturing and experimenting on werewolves, dividing their forms and whether they're a wolf-into-man or man-into-wolf (It's still WoD so it's not consensually usually)So I imagine there's a Vamp equivalent out there already. The problem is more that like for the werewolves who for the most part don't care or actively -like- being furries most vamps after they get over the initial dehumanisation and shadow games actually end up being rather attached to being a monster. There's already a pretty good filter for people who don't want to be a vampire too: It's called go get a fucking sun tan.
>>746593983Oh right, I uh, forgot a little important detail. Just a small one.>Invent WOLFDIE virus (not called that but fuck it) in one scenario after discovering it's not just furries but there's other fucked up things out there.>Virus basically can wipe out werewolves and other freaks no problem, but don't actually use it because again, they're not complete assholes and that's overkill.>If I remember right one scenario they do because shit is going down.
>>746593034Cammies don't enforce rhe Law for the "Greater Good". They do it for control and power. Anarchs are perfectly capable of letting people live free by and larhe while still stopping anyone from going full Shovelhead
>>746556049I know it would be violating the Masquerade but I wish there was more we could have explored with Samantha. I don't know, at least giving her another questline to explore her character. Or if morbid curiosity strikes you, having her be your blood bank?
throwing tags on that camarilla ventrue dickheads tower with my brujah gf then we cruise on my bike looking for a late night bite
I was so fucking mad when Heather died after I LITERALLY told her to be extra careful and not to talk to anyone, and to always leave the house armed with a gun, I hate when my decisions are of no consequence. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines SUCKS and you only like it because of le vibes, the game falls apart after Santa Monica.
>>746594235I love bloodlines but questions like these always make me realise it's hard to compete with tabletop if you have a good Storyteller because yeah, you can just go fucking do that.It's shame it's always been such a fucking mess though. Making a dozen different books for specific focuses is a really interesting idea and I think underlines one of WoD's strengths (that no matter how cool a guy you're playing there's always shit going on somewhere else you'll never even know or understand, it's not just hunters, even an elder vamp can get blindsided by demon shenanigans or some fucking pooka) but ends up actually diluting the experience that would be better condensed into one to three core books. I'm sure it's happened but I've never even heard of someone playing Wraith for example.
>>746594437>telling some completely untrained human female to risk encounters with supernatural monsters>she dies>yfwthe game hints multiple times that you need to let her go
>>746594437Game's great, stop being hyperbolicI think the unofficial patch fixes that
>>746592859Redemption's gameplay sucks and the friendly AI is broken. If it wasn't attached to the VtM, no one would even remember it. Even then, it plays fast and loose with the setting and rules. The difficulty curve is all messed up. The game starts easy, quickly becomes ruthlessly hard but by the midpoint you can build Christof such that you barely need to worry about combat again. That being said, the characters are charming and you get invested in the story. The dark ages are a slog but once you get to the final two hubs you get better music and more interesting environments. If you got a lot of patience and are dying for more World of Darkness content, give it a try.
>>746594636The Unofficial Patch makes it so she doesn't get taken by the Sabbat if you tell her to stay inside but if you tell her to keep going out they'll still take her. Also it's not really "fixing" it. The whole thing is leading up to her dying or you letting her go, letting you keep her and nothing bad happening is underwhelming and leaves an unfinished plot line.
>>746594214>Anarchs are perfectly capable of letting people live free by and larhe while still stopping anyone from going full ShovelheadYou are so naive it hurts.
>>746594816I wouldn't say it ever becomes "ruthlessly hard", at most I had to reload a save a couple of times because I kept whiffing my attacksBut yeah I would never dream of attempting the final boss without the freeze spell
>>746594437>I want my actions to mean something!>NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES?! ANYTHING BUT THAT!
Why doesn't caine just say sorry man just like let it go jeez louis.
>>746595034Yes.
>>746595108Isn't a sincere apology actually all God wants?
>>746594437>the game falls apart after Santa Monica.Dude Hollywood rulezAnd I loved Heather I was mad sad when I found her
>>746595108Why should he be sorry? God told him he wasn't good enough with his offerings and then when he logically deduced what would be the greatest offering to God, God was just like "wtf man that's even worse". God should be the one who is sorry for setting things up in such a way to make people feel lesser and confused without explaining why. Caine didn't even want things to be like this but when my original offering was rejected he was just left hurt and confused.
>>746595315We'll never actually fucking know but each angel visit was basically this yes.
>>746595023I mainly meant the fights against Mercurio and Othelios. The former has that obnoxious AOE spray attack and Othelios will force your party mebers into frenzy. It generally goes down to the luck whether or not you'll kill them. Once you realize you need to turn of discipline use every time you reload a save and the best tactic is to always just use feed beating the trash mobs aren't too bad but it's easy for a first time player to get into a loop where they have no blood so they keep frenzying and keep dying.Contrast that with once you get the Ainkurn sword and you can just pop potence and celerity and speed through dungeons one-tapping enemies. In the late game you spend more time looting after the fight than the fight itself.
>>746595532That's it I'm cursing you with a huge penis that'll teach you.
>>746595532>my original offering
>>746595315Yep.
>>746594919Cry about it harder, lick.
>>746595586Yeah frenzy cause of low blood was annoying for a large part, I eventually just turned all AI disciplines off and learned theft of vitae, shit is completely and utterly broken. Didn't even need the Ainkurn Sword for blood though I still used it obviously
I just assumed she was some crazy lady. Why would I trust what she said?
>>746595315It varies. By some accounts that's all it would take and Caine is supremely stubborn. In others Caine was always remorseful but God did not care for it and wanted him punished anyway. Or sometimes it's some blend or cycle of both and others.
>all the power Caine has is because that one whore taught him>all the clan weaknesses are because Caine cursed the third generationSo what did God actually curse him with? Being immortal but having to always drink blood?>you murdered your brother? how dare you, I curse you to forever keep murdering
>play clan quest mod>KINDRED, MY SON, YOU CAN PICK TWO WAIFUS>YOU CAN PICK THE INSANE CHOLA GANGBANGER SABBAT GREAT-GRANDMA AND GREAT-GRANDDAUGHTER COMBO>OR YOU CAN PICK THE RESKINNED QUIRK CHUNGUS YUKIE RESKIN AS A KUEJIN???? fuck that hazel's got the right of it
>>746596067>Also nobody can hurt you heh gottem.No wonder literally every other faith system or their monsters has their shit together better than the Abrahamic one. Asian vamps even have an active and constructive end goal (not that they ever properly follow it stupid fucks) depending on setting the Hunters aren't even taking cool powers/being fucking insane from God or angels but some random fucker who realises God's not gonna help solve shit so they may as well. Fucking literal retard deity.
>>746596067>Michael, when denied, cursed Caine and his childer to fear his living flame like no other. Raphael cursed Caine and his childer to fear the dawn, as the sun's rays would burn like Michaels holy fire. Uriel then cursed Caine and his childer to cling to the Darkness, drink only blood, eat only ashes, and be frozen at the point of death, cursed so that all they touched would crumble into nothing.
>>746596067>having to always drink bloodCaine could just not do that
>>746595931WoD does its best when it relies on everyone being a fucking liar in the setting with their own agenda including omnipotent beings. No wonder Beckett is fairly unique: Trying to actually chronicle what the fuck's going on is basically impossible.
>>746596536......so before the angels started being niggers, God literally only cursed him with eternal life?
>>746596585Unless I'm missing something there seems to be consensus at least that he was specifically punished to wander as well. Or at least I don't remember someone saying that's bullshit in the setting beyond the majority of people who don't believe any of it anyway.
>>746596737>YOU ALSO HAVE TO TRAVEL AND HAVE FUN EXPERIENCING THE WHOLE WORLD AHAHAHAHA
>>746578156
>>746595536Sorry for what? Either god is all powerful and everything happens because he wills it or god is just another delusional cosmic alien.
>>746596789Hey you're preaching to the converted. WoD god is definitely a retar I mean MYSTERIOUS AND INEFFABLE. Or maybe the fact that our only primary source is also basically a myth who has absolutely no reason to be honest. Who fucking knows. If I was a vampire I'd not even bother and just worry about the present which has many immediate problems to content myself with.
>>746592859Just noticed anon didn't answer the second question: There's a few dialogue choices that impact your humanity and you get one of three endings based on humanity. But I wouldn't say it has choices & consequences
>>746596068Is the CQM worth playing through?
>>746561545all furries will hang in the day of the gehenna
>>746569142fuck off contrarian /v/aggot. Jackie was a bros bro
>>746595108He does in one of the end time scenarios and this immedietly fixes things. Though alternatively the storyteller can just have him kill abel again. Just for the lulz
>>746596828>could be worse>my cousin is a drukhari ottoman
>>746596828How can you say otherwise? Have you ever been a chair?
>>746596874Loving the depiction of God in this one.
>>746596828To be fair before the modern era this was the only way to get a chair that massages and reclines. Tzimice need their gamer chairs.
>>746596874Who was in the wrong here?
>>746597086>Hey siri set an alarm for 9pm I have an late start tonight.>[Unintelligible screaming]>thanks siri>*claps hiss hand turning off the living skull lamps*
>>746556049i've disappeared from all of my online accounts for 2 months before and nobody cared lmao
>>746597135The Cappodocians. >This message was fact checked by true Tremare patriots.
>>746592859its a shitty diablo clone gameplay wise. All dungeons must have three long ass levels. No more, no less, no exceptions. It would improve immensely if they cut down all dungeons to a single level or maybe two levels for important areas in a remaster
>>746597216When you put it like that being a Tzimsce sounds amazing.
>>746595108God turned him into an immortal demi-god hidden in plain sight among fast developing and evolving mortals. Why should he ever repent? Because he is so bored from being so fucking OP?
>>746556049I was too retarded to understand what she meant in my first playthrough and I just thought she was a crazy lady confusing me with someone else.
>>746598026Kinda retarded but also understandable since the MC's backstory never comes up and you never think about it as the player
>>746597276Why would the Tremere give a shit about the philosophy of the Cappodocains?Their beef was always with the Sulubri
>>746588074The issue with that is that by breaking the masquerade they would be also outing the existence of other supernatural creature by proxy. Not to mention a lot of kindred would not be down with it since they make a inliving doing very repugnant shit/consider humans to be nothing more than cattle. And I don’t even mean something on the level of the sabat, Jack who is much more chill casually refers to people as “blood bags”. There is also the Inquisition who would either be against it or go all in knowing that with their prey known they can get pretty much unlimited resources to hunt, plus the average unaligned hunters catching a break since now they can prove that they’re not paranoid schizos but people who are actually trying to keep people safe or whatever. Pentex would probably go full fuck force if the average person learned about the Wyrm and woofs may go full rage tard on cities. I don’t know enough about mages but I would assume they would start shitting themselves/getting stoked to start doing reality altering shit publicly to change the collective consciousness shit.
>>746596536Vampires can eat ashes?I didn't know that.
>>746597276>>746598551Fuck the Tremere and fuck the Gayvanni.Usurping shits.
>>746593464all I see here is that Romania is rightful Hungarian clay
>>746599567No, anything they tried to eat would turn to ash.
>>746592081>basically cut content manWhat the fuck went wrong? Why didn't they just use their giant budget on DEVELOPING the game instead of hiring e-prostitutes and billboards, FUCK
>>746601176Hollywood syndrome, they wasted their money on celebs who ended up not providing anything to the overall experience that could not have been done by someone cheaper.
>>746556049I had a black friend?
>>746596936it's kinda mid? most of the voice acting is terrible and it doesn't feel all that different than 90% of the game as is. it does allow you to take a whole bunch of companions so you can make your own harem at your haven which is pretty fun
>>746578156#chairlife
THE CLAN OF ROSEpost your works in progress
>>746578156>giant armsimagine the hugs
whats stopping the newly embraced just walking into the light ad eding their wretched existence?
>>746602210>implying they don'tHave you seen any of them?
>>746602210not wanting to die probably
>>746602210Survival Instinct plus Vampires are typically going to embrace people who aren't going to object too hard.
>>746601543>it does allow you to take a whole bunch of companions so you can make your own haremSold, i'll check it out for my yearly fall run.
>>746602210eternal damnation
>>746603618its an inevitably either way
>>746602210What stops you from just ending all of it?
>>746603874I'm not an undead creature of the night that must feed on the living to sustain my unholy existence
>>746559381It works as a one off since you're far from human and you've gone down such a rabbit hole that you can't recall or think about your previous life and you can't get it back either. It's like an echo which stirs you for a moment then evaporates just like that
I kind of wish Male Malk followed an endgame trend of Female Malk in regards to clothes. He's a bit too whacky even if the pimp outfit is cool. Female Malk has a better balance of looking like a hooker while still being sort of cool. Though I guess it's kind of odd that her endgame gettup is actually pretty sensible and nearly looks like a Brujah outfit.
>>746604163Yeah being an accursed mortal away from His light is the same except you don't even get to have cool powers, only to get exploited by your ruling class.
>>746597135God. He knew what was going to happen and didn't do anything to stop it, like clarifying to Caine that what he wanted was more effort in the sacrifice, not that Human Sacrifice > Animal Sacrifice > Plant Sacrifice.
>>746602210Are you so autistic as to not understand why someone wouldn't want to kill themselves (in a very painful way) because they now hunger for blood?
>Many vampire games releasing soon than in the entire past decadeI'm happy we're not stuck to WoD and BL1 forever anymore.
>>746606403Other vampire settings suck ass though. WoD is pretty much the peak of vampire stuff but it's stuck in the hands of retards. I pray to God Eternal Whispers is at least serviceable good (It probably won't) or I'm going to be pissed.
Changeling/Fae game soon haha
She sucked and fucked a fat dastardly while doing methI quit the game in disgust
>>746606527shut up we HATE whimsy bitch FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>746606715Lasombra women being sluts is par for the course bro.
>>746567573gangrel is not only one of the least expanded on, also if you side with the camarilla its even worse, i did that and my experience was so trash but im not changing my ways. i was rping as a gangrel hired gun loner like max payne but grittier and sleeping on the streets/forest but i guess the devs didnt like it much, i got blown the fuck up with LaCroix, proudly
There is probably a three eyed vampire that no one suspects because they are always wearing a hat
>>746606504WoD has sucked ass for almost 20 years now. It has not been good for a long time and I'm ready to move on. I'm not expecting new vampire games to be perfect in the first try but an incremental improvement just like it happened with wod first edition.>God Eternal WhispersThat shit is dead on arrival. Using V5 setting when V5 itself has already been ditched for V6 which is worse than V5. Is going to be an even more boring BL2.
>>746606403>Many gayfaggotry games releasing soonNo thanks
>>746606504>WoD is pretty much the peak of vampire stuffEh, the highs are really high but the lows are pretty fucking low. Most of the best ideas (vampire illuminati, distinct lineages with unique abilities and weaknesses) have diffused into the genre. Anyone who'd play a good VtM game would play a good vampire game in general. I wish it'd all just go public domain already. I wish it was like Lovecraft or Dracula where you could just shove bits and pieces of WoD into whatever you wanted instead of needing to make Temu knockoffs.
>>746594816>you can build Christof such that you barely need to worry about combat again.Alright, tell me more so I don't have to suffer that hard please
>>746606715once you go fat, you never go back
Was the most recent VTMB game as terrible as everyone says? I love the original, but I've never heard anything positive about the new one. Also, Fat Larry and the Chinese Herbal Remedy/Weapons dealer are some of the funniest characters I've ever seen in a vidya. Playing as a Malkavian is also quite an experience.
>>746592418It was a powerplay by Lacroix. He invited the Anarchs so they would make a scene and he would look better by showing mercy.
>>746607086it literally was so bad that it retroactively killed the tabletop edition lol
>>746597135God WAS picking favorites from the get go
>>746606715Every she-Lasombra has fucked countless men, women, and horrid shadow monsters from beyond reality. Their whorishness is without equal.
>>746607086its an average adventure that really didnt feel like a role playing game, and it sure as hell didnt have characters that were as memorable as Tseng or Larry
>>746603843>>746603618Don't vampires of judaistic religions and the ones who know the very existence of a vampire is evil and end it fast actually get redeemedI'm pretty sure you can straight up have True FaithTM as a vampire if you try hard enough which is literally God giving you magic powers
>>746606875It being V5 doesn't really matter because the game isn't going to have combat. It's all just talking and environmental interaction. If you mean for the lore stuff like the Sabbat being essentially defunct, then yeah that sucks, but as long as the game has a really solid Camarilla vs Anarch story arc then It'll be fine enough. Of course it's also very gay all the Elders are dead and other such nonsense. Or the Second Inquisition stuff.God damn, was every single facet of V5 designed just to make the setting worse?
>>746591602He's more of an old fashioned Gangrel. In their heyday they used to pose as gods in pagan cultures and were sophisticated enough to pull it off. But like the Brujah who used to be warrior-scholar-poets they fell on hard times, so that modern nights find them in a degraded state. Out of all the clans, they have the strongest hatred for organized religion because it destroyed their power base and reduced them to the smelly hobos they now are.
>>746593464Aren't they actually hung aryans
>>746606715i don't know if this is true but would check out with anything coming from paradox being an humiliation ritual for the player. same with the shitty text novels
>>746606875>ditched for V6 which is worse than V5Huh, I'm out of the loop, what're V6's gimmicks and why is it worse?
>>746607553People talk with certainty in these threads but the entire nature of the setting is that metaphysical stuff is still unknown to almost everyone and that among those who do know about that shit, they can literally change the rules of it. Heaven is literally inaccessible according to the Mage game.
>>746607594>It being V5 doesn't really matter because the game isn't going to have combatMajority of the game mechanics and focus of all VtM editions are on non combat stuff specifically and that has always been the caseVtM really isn't designed around having combat apart from minor ones every other session
>>746607594Combat doesn't enter the first 15 reason in the list of why nu-wod is shit. But I think you already listen the rest of the problems so why bother.
>>746607707the gist of it is that they're doubling down on shit lore while pretending to revert it back. they know that they shat the bed with v5 but corporate drones will never go back to "le hecking problematic" stuff. you have even LESS control of your character now, you can literally lose the game by being too good or too evil, like literally you get your character snapped from you if it has too low/high humanity and you need to abandon it forever. now the "problematic crowd" are having a tantrum over the changes too. is a shit show
>>746607860>>746607946My main thought is that V5 is only supremely dogshit if you take a look at the macro setting and all the details but you can still have a small scale, city focused story of a new vamp trying to "make it" among the Camarilla/Anarch bullshit and it's mostly the same story.The annoying thing is going to be if they bring up any of the other shit or make it a major part of the game.
>>746608096>you can literally lose the game by being too good or too evil, like literally you get your character snapped from you if it has too low/high humanity and you need to abandon it forever.Wait how the fuck does that even work
>>746606715The game strongly implied she had a ton of baggage just by having her be in a lesbian relationship. She's a great character in any case; she perfectly captures a very specific type of flailing younger millennial media/journalism industry bottom feeder whose looks and half-hearted political activism didn't take her as far as she expected.
>>746608228exactly what you read. if you're too good/evil the game master takes control of your character. you just stay there like a good little cuck with no character and need to do another one
>>746608228You always lost your character if you hit zero humanity and became a Wight now they just have nax humanity making you reach Galconda snd no longer being a vampire.
>>746608351>galcondahad to google what this retarded shit is, glad I never played V5
>>746608513golconda always existed. v5 just made it impossible to have because the player needs to be cucked always
>>746608351Don't you have to be all sinless and perfect to achieve gondola
>>746595532This is (presumably) the same God who was fully okay with Abraham believing that he needed to sacrifice his son and let him believe that right until the last minute once he was sure Abraham would actually go through with it
>>746608103>but you can still have a small scale, city focused story of a new vamp trying to "make it" among the Camarilla/Anarch bullshit and it's mostly the same story.To be fair that was the intention behind v5, they just fucked everything up in the way
TremereGODS report in.
>>746608668I guess he learned a lesson from the Abel and Cain thing at least.
>>746592676>>746593043i hate these talking points>bruhhh he was literally gonna kill you how is you gon side with him???!!yeah and he didn’t. that’s how half of stories work, protag is about to get absolutely cooked and then something pulls them out at the last second, you then literally a few minutes later talk with the guy and the game shows it wasn't personal at all, and that he's more than willing to work with you if you choose to learn the ropes. nines screaming is what saved your ass, but he wasn’t doing it for you. the camarilla follow the rules, and LaCroix was just keeping the masquerade intact.>>746592676no, that's what a leader does, not a politician. he was applying the rules set by their tradition, the lines that you do not cross because it's a matter of survival, to show the consequences of your actions, something of course a tranny nigger like you knows nothing about.you talk big about anarchism and sucking commie cock but when nature naturally comes after your ass for stepping over bounderies set by your much stronger superiors (sheer force, not politics) you automatically go AIIEEEEE save me niggerman. and nines didn't even do it for you, he just was upset like the retard commie monkey he was because muh 'don't punish the traitors, don't punish criminals, give people second chances'. just because it saved you doesn't mean it's okay, if you happened to get out of there alive, you learn what is actually happen, it's not that they keep you in the dark for most of the game, it's like you guys remember that intro so vividly and sticks with you forever instead of wanting to learn about anything else.
>>746608736>>bruhhh he was literally gonna kill you how is you gon side with him???!!>I AM VERY SILLYI don't think it's much comfort to know that your execution wasn't going to be personal.
>>746608709Are they fun to play in Bloodlines? I only ever played a brujah and a malk, but I feel like playing a fucking vampire wizard that shoots magic missiles n shiet.
At the beginning of Skyrim, the Imperials were going to execute your PC because of a mix-up, you weren't even breaking any laws.Plenty of people still side with them. I don't see why it's so different in Bloodlines.
>>746608709ur not even a REAL kindred lol
>>746609096Yeah they're fun and I usually don't like playing mages much. You definitely need to use the hotkey menu and put things you want to use though otherwise it can be tedious just scrolling through Disciplines. Having both Dominate and Thaumaturgy at level 3 minimum lets you have good options for almost any encounter, Dominate is better against humans and Thaumaturgy better against supernaturals.
>>746609096You can be really cheesy with a lot of the Thaumaturgy powers, they get a really swanky unique haven, and some extra dialogue with Strauss. Pretty good playthrough, Blood Boil isn't the most effective but holy fuck does it feel satisfying to use.
>>746609178*Blood Boils u*
>>746577212Eurotrash
>>746604651they are literally all costume store stripper outfits
>>746609161Lacroix is constantly trying to kill you throughout the game because he's butthurt about losing face at your execution. If the execution itself was the only time it would be more understandable, but everything after that is hard not to take personally. Plus even setting all that aside he's like a drowning guy who'll drag anyone who gets too close underwater with him, so siding with him would be a bad idea regardless of how he treats you.
>>746609161>you weren't even breaking any lawsyou crossed the border illegally
>>746609465Yeah but you can side with the Camarilla without siding with LaCroix, through Strauss. You don't have to be an Anarchoid.
>>746608637Yes, which is what humanity 10 represented. The majority of characters would start at 6 or 7 depending on how willing they were to break the law or lower to 4-5 if they were a hardened criminal or killer. You typically wouldn't lower or raise it significantly like you would in Bloodlines, it would just show how much of a bastard you are or how much sway the Beast had over you.
I just want more games like this to play
>>746609161Plenty of people are retarded. Even if you decide the Camarilla is conceptually alright, it's best to position yourself into an authority position, like how the Fledgeling becomes the new Sheriff for Strauss. But being totally gungho for any organization when you have no power in it is just kind of dumb.
>>746607401Yeah, and that favorite is clearly Caine. Little buddy murdered his brother and got let off nice. Even after 10,000+ years of his progeny ruining the world, God won't lift a finger to stop it, and will immediately forgive Caine if he says sorry.
>>746609465>Lacroix is constantly trying to kill you throughout the game because he's butthurt about losing face at your execution. I'm still thinking about this posts and giggle about them.
>>746609961I laughed for a solid five minutes at this.
>>746611068Waaay too much commieslop on Nines. He's a great depression era white Hispanic. Even if he was a genuine American socialist he'd probably think the current crop of socialists are cringe LARPers.
>>746611342The Brujah make more sense when you stop thinking the point is not to improve America by implementing their ideas, and realize the point is to make the system collapse.
>>746611495One of the Brujah clanbooks had an example character who was a small town sheriff that hated niggers and pinkos, and who believed you had to crack the heads of the reprobates in order to keep honest folk safe. It even notes that he thinks the Traditions are too lax.
oh the faggots here, goodbye
>>746578156>hauntingIt was pure sex.
>>746611859As if vampires aren't the gayest monsters ever.
>>746611859I think they're foids
>>746607043Easy mode?Make him learn:>from protean: feral claws>from blood magic: theft of vitae>from blood rituals: prison of ice
>>746611859where do you think you are
>>746611859Why are you screetching at the sight of one (1) male fan art? Do you have some repressed feelings you want to communicate?
>>746607086>but I've never heard anything positiveThe snowy Seattle gets posted from time to time.
>>746593016>Hire people that look like thisThree Jews, a fag and a fat woman? Tsk, I dunno, anon...
>>746556898That's exactly the point, though. One history gives a significantly stronger start to the kind of character a person wants to be and encourages them to look at other avenues to develop their character rather than what's usually done. There wouldn't be guides on how to maximize ability point gain if most people weren't obsessive over how to spend XP. What I'm thinking is that stat-swap histories allow for players to tweak characters to get a specific kind of start and then develop their "real" build later. The more defined histories with the steeper costs would be preferable for players who wants to start with a strong build on the word "go" and invest most of their XP into Disciplines, rather than most attributes and/or abilities that have a steeper XP cost.Again, that's how I'm thinking it will work on paper. I still need to keep playtesting to see how it all feels.
>>746589418this is my wife btw
>>746556049>Zionist Jew looking ass walks up to me, a white Ventrue chad, in the street>>746557547bait
>>746615650
playing in vtmb in 2004 i was so hopeful about the future of pc gaymen
@746615991It sold 10,000 copies and it was a rushed, buggy mess. No one was hopeful about the future of gaymen by its example. It only gained a cult following years later when autists started fixing the bugs FOR FREE
>>746616107The really interesting setting and lore does a lot of the heavylifting.
>>746556049>YOU CANT HELP ME SAMANTHA>NO ONE CAN>REEEEEEEEEEEE GET AWAY FROM THE PHONE BITCH>*bites her*It do be like that
>>746616253>Isolated starts playing
>>746615991I was hopeful about the future in general.
>>746616189It's the same with Dude Sex, System Cock 2, Fallout New Vegas, Morrowind, and so on. The best games ever made are absolute fucking dogshit mechanically, but that fuckhueg cross is carried by Jesus "Setting and Lore" Christ Himself.
>>746562631YJK
>>746616342"Why are you still single in your 30s?">HAVE NO CHOICE BUT BE ISOLATED>STRUGGLING, LEFT ALONE, APART>PUSHED ASIDE, MADE SEGREGATED>STRUGGLING, LEFT ALONE, APART
>>746616364For me it's the Holy Spirit (sovl)
>>746586179And thats a good thing
>>746616364They may all have glaring mechanical problems but what they all succeed in is making you feel like you're spending your time well for examining in-game environments.
>>746567573>>746591602>>746606776I didn't know this was in the thread.1. Beckett will give Gangrel players a dot in one of their Disciplines.>"Hmm. . .I've said quite a lot about myself already. I know even less about you than you do me. Why don't you tell me about yourself?""I'm Gangrel like you.">"Clans have little to do with personality, you're thinking of cults. Still struggling with the Protean Discipline?"If your Protean is below 3:"I'm still not very good at it.">"Your own body reflects your own understanding of the natural world. Beastly, maybe, a beast - that's up to you."If your Protean is >=3, you can tell him that you find Animalism (if it's below 3) or Fortitude (if it's below 3) tricky.>"The trick is to reach out to the Beast in other creatures through empathy, not verbal commands."or>"The trick is to reach out to the Beast in other creatures through empathy, not verbal commands."If all of your Disciplines are at 3 or greater:"I'm on my way to mastering all of my Disciplines.">"Quite an achievement. Mastery in all Disciplines is rather difficult for one so new - remember not to neglect other, more practical skills."In which case you get nothing from him.2. It's important to remember that at this point in the story, Clan Gangrel left the Camarilla entirely because Justicar Xaviar "uttered a single sentence" at a huge Gangrel gathering that had manifested to discuss the Sabbat taking over the East Coast. VtM never expounded on what he stated, but basically every Gangrel just straight-up left the Camarilla. The only Gangrel you get to see are Beckett and the murderer, and Beckett is Autarkis while the murderer is a caitiff. This is a specific narrative choice: It's meant to show that the Gangrel are no longer a part of vampire politics in the Final Nights.
>>746616894Fraggle rock. The Fortitude line is:>"You're dead. The blows that could once kill you won't. Don't be afraid to try and withstand a little more punishment."
>>746592418He literally made a play on the spotKnew nines was gonna get angryStayed his hand>look how generous l amI used to think it was serendipity that Nines was there, now I realise it was just Lacroix trying to show off his power level in front of everyone, Nines saw it too, look at his face when that happens. And then Lacroix sends you off on dangerous mission after dangerous mission, the first one is to literally help a ghoul pick up some explosives to level a sabbat warehouse, the only reason you’re still alive after even attempting to plant the explosives is because you’re trained in the art of ass whoopery from doing everyone’s errands because santa monica is in absolute disarray upon your arrival (the prince cant do his fucking job properly and only downtown is halfway respectable)
>>746601176they got keanu on board not too late in development but late enough they had to make a decent amount of changes to the story; they couldn't have you wandering around for more than ~5 hours before the big name on the game shows up ya know?
>>746617246My favorite tidbit that's easy to miss is that LaCroix doesn't give Chunk instructions to send you up once you return from Hallowbrook. LaCroix genuinely believed that you'd die to the Sabbat, and is seething with rage when you show up again.
>>746616107>10,000It was actually closer to 80,000. It was also winning awards, it won RPG of the year from IGN. Yes the game was fairly broken on release but people still enjoyed it and the biggest issues were fixed not long after by official patches. Not sure what would drive someone to be this butthurt about it now.
>>746609161Lacroix is an objectively bad choice from the player’s perspective, and failing that, you only get the good apartment from him if you allow him to use you as a footrest during your early conversations
>>746556049I put this entire quote into chatgpt to find out where it's from and now the AI contacted emergency services for meI closed the window now in a panicthanks /v/
>>746617965You have been chosen. They will come soon.
>>746615991Unfortunately gaymen would become.. gay.
>>746607043For all characters: Level up strength, dexterity, stamina and blood heal. Don't both with other disciplines besides feral claws for Wilhelm and Erik. Feral claws deals aggravated damage which you need against non-corporeal enemies. Make sure you turn off party discipline use every time you load so they're not wasting blood. Party members have terrible AI and will waste their entire blood pool using disciplines against low level enemies. There's a bug where the setting not to use disciplines with reset itself.For Christof: Level up the same physical stats as well as manipulation. Manipulation affects vendor prices and once it gets high enough you'll be able to buy items from vendors and sell it back for than you bought it for. A lot of good items are in the shops so check them regularly. As far as Christof's disciplines go you'll want blood heal and feed first. Potence, celerity and fortitude are nice but don't use them until you feel your blood situation is stable. Buy other disciplines that seem interesting.Some other tips:Unlike Bloodlines, you can feed off of other vampires. Do this regularly and then share the blood with party members after fights.Early game ranged weapons are a waste but late game they're pretty strong.You may get a companion that you feel is more of a "mage" type character. That is a trap. Give them a melee weapon, boost their physical stats and let them go to town.Keep an eye out for weapons that do aggravated damage.
>>746616342BasedId probably tell Jeanette all about it when I’m finished between her thighs>mwahahha>tfw crossing swords with bertram tung and a bunch of horny mortals thinking they scored big with a horny big titty goth school girl club ownerWell. Thats unlife for ya
>>746558473The sewers near my house are clogged with my creations too.
>>746617965you broke the masq and now they're comin for yo ass
>>746616364>Dude Sex>Systemic Cock 2 >Fagout New Anal>MorningWoodwindSo close but so far
>>746617946Even Caine tries to logically talk you out of not fucking up that final decision.>"It sounds as if there are many who seek to sway the children of Caine to their side.... many who believe they shape the destiny of the blood. You work for prince LaCroix, don't you?""Yeah. For all his faults, he has the city's best interests at heart.">"I could take you downtown, if that is your wish. This prince LaCroix - is he really the tyrant the Anarchs make him out to be?""No. What LaCroix is, is a leader. Something the Anarchs can't understand.">"But what of the Anarchs? Don't you worry that prince LaCroix's vision for this city precludes their existence? Their ways of life seem incompatible.""The Anarchs are bound to implode without leadership. They have no choice.">"LaCroix makes many new enemies all the time. It will not be long before someone challenges him for this city. Is by his side the best place to stand in this city?""The prince has got a secret weapon. I'm not worried.">"The Ankaran Sarcophagus, you mean? Strange how Kindred from all over the city seem to fear its presence. Have you seen what's inside?""I haven't. I assumed with all the excitement it might be something incredible.">"If all LaCroix's plans hinge on the contents of the sarcophagus, what would he, and you, do, if there was nothing inside?""Hmm... good point. But I'll take my chances.">"I will drop you off downtown if you've made your decision to pledge allegiance to LaCroix. It is a shame though, that the Anarch experiment must come to an end. I suppose Enoch also did not last forever.""Everything comes to an end eventually. Take me to LaCroix.">"Very well."
>>746618358Caine offers counterpoints to pretty much every ending choice, though he does try to hint at which might be more likely to work out for you. IIRC he cautions you against the Kuei-Jin even harder, and doesn't have nearly so much trepidation towards the Cammies if you're going Strauss route.
OP image looks gross, needs DLSS 5 improving it.
Some fledgling retard just diablerized your boss (he was embraced in the 90's so not a big deal).What do you do?
>>746617557Yea that too.To me, Lacroix represents the inheritor rich man who basically adopts a position of power because he was born into it. Lacroix ain’t the best, he’s just the most conniving about it, the most underhanded and the most ruthless and ambitious. Caines wandering about and wants nothing to do with that chode. What does that tell you? All other powerful vampires except the Sherrif, who is a walking sasquatch mercenary, and that ‘Neonate’ sorcerer guy, are the only significant vampires of standing taking the camarilla as more than an arbitrary set of rules imposed by a weak tyrant with a fading amount of respect from the rest of his peers.
>>746618358I'll admit that it's been a awhile so I may me misremembering, but doesn't Cabbie shit talk all the sides?
>>746618358Damn, didnt know that. In all my playthroughs I chose anarch every time so it makes sense I miss this entire conversation, if you pick anarchs he’s basically like ‘it probably wont last but cool’ IIRC
>>746618640I think he’s trying to scope you out. For like the entirety of the game he never does anything but pick you up and drop you off, it makes a nice change how then he drops the facade right at the end and challenges you on your principalities to see where your heart is. He IS the game, and he’s happier being a cab driver. Crazy to think about
>>746618504With the Kuei-jin he flat-out states he doesn't understand why you'd ever side with them and that you'll be labeled a traitor to the Kindred forever for it. He doesn't try to reason with you at all, he just blatantly tells you "don't do that".>>746618640It's >>746618942If you side with Strauss, he makes it clear that he likes the stability of the Camarilla, but doesn't like the petty squabbles of Kindred with LaCroix who only power-play, and elders like Strauss are very inactive. If you side with the Anarchs, Caine warns you that they will always find conflict, and you need to accept that conflict as a part of your unlife. If you choose to go independent, he praises it as the path of legends, but legends aren't revered by Kindred; they're hunted down by the ambitious, and they almost always end up feeling empty and hollow due to a lack of true purpose.With all that being said, his point is that you won't get a happy ending, but you have to find the ending that best encapsulates who you are as a Kindred: One who wants stability (Strauss), one who wants change (Anarchs), one who wants freedom (Independent), one who's looking for power (LaCroix), or one who's retarded (Ming).
>>746618172Disregard all this crap, pump points into Awe.
>>746609961The best thread in a year or more. God damn i like comfy vtmb october
>>746619317>all those anons who completely ignore cabbie's advice, completely ignore the signs of ming despising you, and still sided with her anywayi mean i get it but still
>>746619824It was the early 2000s, and yellow fever was an epidemic.
for me, it was Yuki
>>746596068What? The quirk chungus kuei jin looks nothing like Yukie. Jin Chungus has its own character model the clan quest devs made
>>746619824>>746619864>yellow fever was an epidemic.The base game gives you Yukie though, there's no need to simp for ming xiao
>>746619909>>746620000>"They're about to shut us down and lock us out of the building...">"Better texture Yukie's panties and give her skirt physics so it's constantly flipping up!"
>>746620042
>>746620042Not being able to ditch the vampire politics to go monster hunting with Yukie is a a crime.
>>746620042>"They're about to shut us down and lock us out of the building...">"Better texture Yukie's panties and give her skirt physics so it's constantly flipping up!"I don't see how these are mutually exclusive?
>>746620083Anon I'm dating Yukie right this minute in Compmod.I gave Heather a job tending the Tremere chantry bar.
>>746620185nahh it's not the same.running off to play monster hunter should be like a secret ending.
>>746616894"It smells like wet do here" probably
>>746592271I had no idea Edward James Olmos was trans in the early 2000s.
>>746620262You will NEVER get a Hunter: The Reckoning Gaiden-clone where you play as a Shih that has to fight against Strike Force Zero after learning about 2/3rds of the way through the game that their agents are infected with demon technology that has turned them into "bakemono" (foromi) and you have to deal with cyber ninjas, cyber snipers, cyber samurai, Nephandi, Demons, Black Spiral Dancers, and all other kinds of fucking bullshit.
>>746620480why would you tell me thishaven't we suffered enough
>>746620480yeah well fuck you too nigger
>>746620480That sounds like it would be Metal Gear Rising
What's the worse Discipline and why is it Animalism? Summoning a pack of Dogs just seems so underwhelming. Gangrel seems to be fucked by two of the most niche and unspecialized disciplines in the setting, but at least they have fortitude and Mist form so they'll survive the fact they're useless.
was Micheal Jackson a vampire
>>746620480
>>746620759No>sue me, jew meHe was a hunter.
>>746620723Counterpoint: You can mind control bears. A bear without fear is a horrifying concept.
>>746621454Lot of bears around in the city, yeah?
>>746561387>sabbat nosferatuis there a more horrifying thing?
>>746558473
>>746621537If you live in NA, you don't need to go that far out to find bears. Also, spy rats/pigeons, swarms of smaller animals (think dishonored rat swarms at your command), turning guard dogs against their masters... Animalism needs creative uses, and YMMV based on what animals are native to your area, but it's not useless.
>>746620723I think it's pretty fun. Combined with Fortitude you get to play a kind of tank mage. Burrowing Beetle is strong if you have the blood to spam it against bosses. The wolf instantly kills humans, the bats will disable another and give you blood back. Level 5 will kill even groups of vampires. Protean kind of sucks despite the high damage because of the slow animation although it's still somewhat tolerable. I actually hated Celerity despite how much people like it. Maybe I was overusing it during combat and should've kept it for tougher fights but the game being slow all the time got boring.
>>746609393
>>746621645This dude was a pretty cool enemy, shame that series really shit the bed in the second arc.
>>746621882Jumping the shark that early was insane. A Tremere antitribu was already pushing the envelope, but immediately shifting from vampires to werewolves was the decision of a madman. Make no mistake, I want to be kinfolk to Matilda, but going from "Nosferatu with decent dots in both Obfuscate and Potence" to "Red Talon" is bullshit.Considering SpeakerD's Mage audiolog I'm pretty sure he's a magenigger so it was inevitable he'd want to raise the powerscaling ASAP
>>746594437just get another one, duh
>>746594437>anon got butthurt over this junkie whore after meeting ghouls like Knox and Patty>anon got butthurt over this bitch even after vampires like Skelter called them a weakness>anon got analpained because he didn't have the balls to tell her to go awaylmao
>>746621537There will be when I'm going through it, we're masquerading as the circus. We have vampire elephants too.
if a mosquito bites a kindred, does it become a super mosquito
>>746623051yes thats how buzzswole was made
>>746556049https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-wSesiTcOMHope it wont suck.
>>746623509I won't play Skyrim again, Todd
