And the award, for the most overhated guests in fighting game history goes to:
I don't know who any of these people are.
>>746647523Too bad it's 2D combat in a 3D engine, which is objectively inferior to 3D combat in a 3D engine.
SNKfags spend too much time playing the victim instead of playing their games.
>>746647715Tekken 8 sucks cock
we need a multiplayer open world fighting game where you team up with other people to fight bosses and mobs like yakuza, that will save fighting games.
>>746647868Street Fighter Alpha 3 did it
>>746647868Those are called MMOs bro
>>746647523They couldn't even get Messi and DJ Khaled?
>>746648493the only thing dj khaled would fight against is a cardiac arrest
>>746647868SF6 World Tour without the multiplayer
>>746647868Wasn't that Suplex City or whatever the fuck the fighting BR that died was?
>>746647675thisdidn't even know who the fuck they were until someone was like "OMG HOW DO YOU KNOW NOT TO HATE THIS *RAPIST*" on x like i was automatically supposed to follow SOCCER, not football because we already have football in our based nation and it is better
>>746648669>SuplexKnockout City?
>>746647752their general is like a big pot of whining about other games succeeding and downtalking/downplaying other companies' games to put over snk's games to nobody but themselves and claiming anyone who doesn't like a certain aspect of an snk game "schizo"they hand out the word schizo like candy that it's easy to not take seriouslythat is the snk general in a nutshell
>>746648734Oh they're just soccer players? I mean browns play fighting games and browns love soccer so I guess I should have figured.
>>746648965one of them is some dj i guess apparentlythe point being is i had no idea who any of them were and was neither excited nor not excited, just "uhhh ok"like how you can say how certain people have this certain charm to them, nu-snk has the reverse of that, they have reverse charmthey are not good at doing or coming up with anything that would grab anybody normal outside their snk fagbase bubble
>>746647523Why does it feel like all the best fighting games were made twenty years ago or more?
>>746647523>Tokon is dying>But also Tokon is one of the biggest games at future majorsIs it safe to say that people were so desperate to play Tokon eceryone embraced the PSN subscription cuckoid?
Why are you wording it like there are other real world guests in fighting games?
Why are fighting game """fans""" so unjustly filled with hate?
>>746649305>But also Tokon is one of the biggest games at future majorsNot for long, people need to move on from the circus already. I hope peta linches the nigro with the shiba.
Tokon status?
>>746649465You didn't answer my question big bro. Did you faggots accept becoming cuckoids to play a dying genre?
>>746649591Life support, and this is coming from someone who likes it
>>746649870It's not a bad game but while I play it I just think>man, imagine if it was a 1v1 instead of tagshitI just can't.
>>746648734Okay but you do see how putting an actual rapist in the game is a BAD thing, right?
Waiting patiently for potato buffs in the next patch
>>746649870Literally not even a month old btw, cope and seethe
Someone should use DLSS5 on all the fighting games. Especially the arcslop
>>746650297...That makes it even worse? Not even 1 month in and already dead.
I played online matches instead of looking at replays again...forgive me...
>>746650439surprised it lasted more than a week. Playstation fags are truly garbage humans.
>>746650509What game requires you to see replays and lab in 2026? roflolmao Gonna become a student of the modern shit game design bro?
When are we getting SNK vs Fifa?
>>746650638How the fuck are you supposed to do Messi's 1F link into Fake Rabona?
>>746650637+r
>>746650637>he's not STUDYING
>>746648669>>746648790He's thinking of Rumbleverse
>>746647868kys
>>746649305The modern FGC is beyond cucked that they are willing to get raped by Sony and force a flop to live, just so they wouldn't feel like the suckers who allowed SF6 to rape them for 10 years. It's beyond humiliating from an outsider's perspective. Meanwhile, companies like SNK can give them the world with all the support they are putting in COTW, yet the FGC wants to pretend like they are above it because of Saudis involvement or whatever (But it's okay when Saudis are involved in Capcom, Nintendo, Square Enix...). Reminder the Shooter community killed Helldivers 2 for half the shit Sony pulled.>>746649591Less players than Strive lmao. Total tagslop death.>>746650174Am I to believe some gold digging roastie who filed the accusation 10 years after she was supposedly "raped" (and lost the case twice) over actual, experienced legal professionals, because Reddit said so? Why wasn't Ronaldo arrested in the World Cup? Why don't his loudest haters give a shit? Why doesn't Messi, or any professional football player say anything about this "rape"? Back to Xitter with you.
>>746647523The hottest take the FaGC isn't ready to hear: CotW is going to take over Strive within a year and is low key the best fighting game out currently. Granblue had the chance, but it's going EOS after Id.
>>746650780It's a shame the art style of that game was so putrid, and it was egs exclusive, it looked actually pretty fun and I trust IG at least to get the gameplay and technical side of things right, but it just didn't actually make me want to play it at allThey really need to replace all their art and design staff
>>746651059>they are willing to get raped by Sony and force a flop to live, FGCbros.... our response???
>>746651128>CotW is going to take over Strive within a yearHow? Any time Strive releases a new waifu character, it peaks higher than COTW ever didNot even debating game quality, they're both completely different games and generally shouldn't be compared
>>746649460You wouldn't get it
>>746621849You need to consider that just because you can convert in an extremely niche situation does not justify the usefulness or confirm the benefits of a move at a higher level. How many fucking people are gonna use that specifically spaced Riot Stamp combo? Little to none, because it's such an extremely rare scenario. This is what I mean by "utility" and "being a good move". A good move is one that has a BROAD general use AND is overall beneficial to the character. Look at Johnny. Coins level up his shit, but even without the coins he gets a mixup in stance because the mix is that YOU don't know what button he pressed for the stance, which is then amplified by having it powered up and get a stronger payoff for it. Bacchus makes this UNBLOCKABLE into a FREE combo. Zweihander is used for getting in and catching people to start combos AND serves as a combo ender. He has FOUR specials. Notice how they're all extremely useful? THIS is what separates the top characters from those that aren't. Take a look at Ky. Grinder, Stun Edge, Enhanced Stun Edge, Aerial Stun Edge, Enhanced AERIAL Stun Edge, Greed Sever, Dipper. Like there are levels to this. Sol has damage he has to work for and that's about all that keeps him afloat to being perceived as "strong", but he still has to work for his shit and GV and RS do not really help. If it was +R Sol in Xrd, with even just the same moveset and they all functioned like in +R, he'd probably be top 5. That's the difference.
>>746647523I'm still mad at that company leading me to look up the music guy and learning he existed, even though I've forgotten who he is since then.
The sad fact is that the music guy is fun to play
>>746651128You do know Blazblue Strive is in the works right? Cotw better do it now before its too late lmao
>>746651128It hasn't even taken over KoF
>>746647868Closest thing I can think of except it was a battle royale and it died faster than 2XKO
>>746651776I don't know why studios making games in niche genres keep taking the EGS deal. Unless they already considered the game a wash and wanted to cash out and put it behind them.
>>746647523I was planning to play CotW today since Duck King came out but I ended up playing that SNK Picross game for 3 hours straight.
>>746651128Mashallah we shall be delivered, habibi.
>>746647523Seeing how much of a boring slog GTA6 looks like from the preview, VF6 is now the only upcoming game i'm even remotely interested in.I don't even mind El Goblino Cielo, he's endearing.
>>746647523>Play king of durka durka 97’ with Pele saaaaar!If it’s not Samsho or Metal Slug, SNK can suck the skin clean off my cock, I cannot imagine fumbling worse than SF with the regularity KoF has.
Blanka is so fucking hideous and not even in a cool way, I can't believe anyone has ever liked this character
if you put any guest characters from football or e-retard in your gamei aint never buying a game from your shitty company ever again
>>746647523People only hated Salvatore before they found out he really is THAT WEIRD and then the consensus flipped, people love the dude and his brand of crazy
>>746652951Not that I think it was a slam dunk and could have easily been a huge success, but I think they were kind of on to something with Rumbleverse. Maybe if it didn't have such a generic Grubhub look it might have gained some momentum because I feel like people who tried it were often fond of it, people just were disinterested in it because the marketing for it made it look like some unremarkable and uninspired throwaway game.
>>746651128You are stupid and snk will genuinely never be able to make a new game reach anywhere near strive popularity solely because they are nowhere near arcsys when it comes to visuals. And granblue genuinely had zero chance either with it being designed to be gacha baby's 1st fighter and being boring as it is to 90% of people.
>>746651128I don't have a problem with CotW itself but SNKniggers have got to be some of the most delusional around
>>746653696>they are nowhere near arcsys when it comes to visualSF6 and T8 are the two most popular fighters on the market.
Tag fighters need a character roster in the triple digits.
>>746653925Mugen is free lil bro.
>>746653925I am not learning all those matchups nephew
>>746647868isn't that what they're doing with Virtua Saudi 6? except for the multiplayer part I guess
>>746653487The only time he’s ever been semi cool is his Alpha/CvS self
>>746650735how fast is your ability to adjust/learn new tech
>>746653830And the reality is this: VF6 WILL be popular, not because it's good, but because it has spectacle slop and looks like realism slop, and we all know how much normies love realism slop. Screenshot this and watch. You'll see. Then I bet SNK will either try to go into that realm or just double down on their celshading.
>>746653625I actually played this game a lot. What killed it was the devs being retarded with the balance. They made weapons too strong so they invalidated the most fun part of the game, special moves (you could do shit like izuna drop someone off a fucking skyscraper). And instead of realizing that, they doubled down on buffing weapons. They even added a busted keyblade near the end before the game died
>>746653487sf players like looking at ugly things, as long as its not anime
Select (you)r character
>>746654695Tranime sucks
>>746649460The game had highest peek concurrent players when she released.Citty of wolfs literally died on release.So i think one hate is more real than the other.
>>746654783
>>746653487The face of both SF6 and Blanka being a fat, downs syndrome looking, mystery meat Dominican speaks more clearly and loudly to what the FGC has become than any shitpost could ever hope to capture.
>>746654783So are you gonna actually participate in the fucking thread or make vague starter posts like a faggot seeking attention
>>746654998What if someone doesn't want to>talk about SF6>talk about how tokon and avatar>doom about player numbers>talk about ecelebs
just got a leverless controller... slapping out combos with this thing is really fun
>>746655285Are you stupid?
>>746655285There are granblue threads every day
>>746648734>SOCCER, not football because we already have football in our based nation and it is betterSoccer was a term unironically invented by the UK
>>746655538There are?
>>746652046That riot stamp combo is actually pretty commonRiot stamp itself is a bit of a meme but it is good in the corner and if it hits that combo is pretty reliable, it's not that rare to seeSol has generally good moves, he has the best DP in the game by far, GF is a top 5 projectile, WT is the second best command grab, and BR is easy guaranteed knockdowns off any combo. He's just also got some good but niche moves that you can wild out with or use to optimize stuff, he's better with them than without them, but the reason they're niche is not that the reward on hit is too low, it's already optimal to confirm into GV where possible it's just somewhat rare to get that opportunity, doing 200 damage instead of 130 midscreen would make it a bit more worth going for but wouldn't significantly improve him as a character and having them isn't why +r Sol gets to play a more aggressive rushdown style. If you like the clean hits and rushdown Sol more that's fine, but he already does a ton of damage when he gets a good confirm, especially in the corner, the reason Johnny is top tier and Sol is mid(though still higher tier than +r Sol) is Johnny has dominant neutral and pressure and reliable confirms off long range plus on block safe pokes, which clean hits wouldn't help with.
>>746647523Never would I have expected SNKfags to be such rabid scrimblofags, given SNK's nature to just create dozens of characters and immediately discard them. The standards excuse doesn't fly either with shit like Tifa.
>>746653487I liked Blanka because he used to look more beast than man. Now he's just a lame mulatto ape
>>746656627Modern SNKfags just defend anything the company does
>>746657147Modern SNK fans don't exist. What you're seeing are paid marketers.
>>746656207The idea isn't to have them to deal with top tiers specifically, but that it would help Sol secure a victory more readily. Besides, having a "long" range option like Sidewinder would at least trade with Mist Finer, unless MF has a disjointed hitbox and/or priority, in which it doesn't matter in that case, but it would still help Sol overall. Sol as he is now has a toolkit that doesn't allow for disgusting abuse inherently, as he has relatively short buttons and his only setplay is knockdown GF and GF YRC. I don't even know HOW you would make him as strong as Johnny, anyway. But the point is he'd be such a damage/confirm monster that people would be forced to acknowledge him as being a tier higher, and would strongly carve his niche even further of being a character that depends on mindgames and frame traps leading into big damage.
>>746652046> If it was +R Sol in Xrd, with even just the same moveset and they all functioned like in +R, he'd probably be top 5.because +R is a party game that decided to buff everyone to the moon to reward the people still playing AC in arcades instead of moving on to blazblue or sf4 so now sol has a super that does mondo damage to end rounds or FB fafnir to convert anything into his BNB for 25% metermeanwhile xrd sol is in a game that was deliberately trying to be more like #reload where guilty gear almost made sense and wasn't just on amphetamines
>>746657605oh yeah that 25% super is also 3f startup and leads out of a move that they gave sol in this game entirely to make his grounded confirms and pressure braindead too instead of having to worry about his shorter range
>>746653830Yes because they are two of the most loved fighting game brands and most people like or are ok with how either game look even if sf6 is fugly 90% of the time and Tekken 8 is an fx feat. That is exactly why I am saying what I said in that post. People literally buy arcsys games solely because of how good they look and strive managed to sit comfortably under those two for the past 5 years because it looks so good which primarily attracted people and it being on the simpler to pick up and play end compared to previous games.
>>746655538No there aren't what the fuck are you saying? 100% of rising mentions on this board are in general fighting game threads with about two thirds of said mentions being whining about how it isn't more popular followed by everyone giving the exact reasons it isn't more popular.
the FGC is the last community anyone should ever listen to ever
>>746659309your definition of FGC?
>>746659535You know
Fighting games just aren't worth it. The games themselves have become terrible and the community is extremely unpleasant. Probably the absolute worst genre.
>>746657473MF is immensely disjointed, you're not challenging it with anything, at best you get a clash.Forcebreaks would help Sol way more, even FB sidewinder would be better than normal SW with clean hits because he could turn stray air to airs confirms with his busted j.P into fat damage and a FB +ob Fafnir he could cancel into would be broken as shit and basically instantly make him top tier unless everyone else got equally broken nonsense, but fuck FBs I'm glad they aren't in the game. His oki is basic but fine, late airdash/empty low mix is all Ky really does anyway and while Sol's is less stable because he doesn't have a super active multi hit projectile like en.CSE or as many lows, his reward on j.S>j.D starters is massive and WT can't be ignored.Like yeah increasing his damage would make him stronger but he already does great damage in most of the situations you could get GV or a SW loop in +r meterlessly, ie off 2H or WT or a good counterhit etc, and there's no way in hell he's getting 25 meter conversions into full damage.I don't think he really needs buffs personally, he's not my main but I do play him and he's in a comfy spot tier wise especially with how popular he is, if you wanted to help him out specifically at the top level where he does fall off a bit, at least with the typical Sol playstyle, another run speed buff and some better disjoints on f.S and maybe like better frame advantage/less disadvantage on GF feint would go a long way and he probably wouldn't be top 5 but maybe top 10.
>We want an honest fighting game that isn't casualslop, with fast and smooth matchmaking, balanced roster where you can win with anyone, gets ton of support and content for cheap (or even free), and lots of money for the pro scene!>N-no, not like this!
>>746660173Yeah I'm good
>>746660445we need to go back to 3-5 second combos
>>746660445Kino
>https://streamable.com/r2zf34Saw this in a previous thread. He's 100% right well being wrong at the same time because the take is outdated and he refuses to include Modern game design and the internet sharing data. He's speaking specifically about the "everyone is a bum" era and yes 99% of players were bums who didnt take the games seriously while attended tournaments just for the vibes. What im saying is the skill level of this 4chan thread would be top 16 players back then if we jumped in a time machine and took our game to that era with the internet knowledge we have from the current era.TLDR 99.99% of people who hate modern games hate the fact they don't have to go through years of getting good and how everything is immediate.
>>746660732>99% of players were bums who didnt take the games seriously while attended tournaments just for the vibesyou should watch tournament pools for any fucking game
Yeah I'm dropping tokon.I don't think I can get a single fight without getting tilted at one of the billion non sense this game has.Piece of shit game, I hope you become a discord fighter soon.
>>746660732He's not describing the FGC or fighting games, he's describing the modern internet. Every single game is like this.
>>746660732Please kill yourself for taking DSPiss of all faggots seriously and as you unironic talking point. Kill yourself.
Kyo will save SNK when KoF16 comes out (directed by Harada).
>>746662332Plappable muscle twink.
>>746660732>waah being a 40 year old playing ranked in shitty games isn't as fun as going to the arcades as a teenager to play games from the literal fucking golden age of fightersno fucking shit, sad to see the genre getting raped and beaten in the street like this while retards pretend their whining about slop is genuine discourse
>>746654783This one.WHERE THE FUCK IS THE UPDATE KAMONE?
Anybody wanna play plus r?
>>746662740me2, I got 100 hours in the game fiddling around but zohar looks to be made for me.
>>746647523Wow, when I stop caring about knowing what's going on, GGACR really is one of the funnest fighting games
>>746660173>that isn't casual slop>parries>air drive impactget this poser off my website.
>>746660445>50% off a call out move and doing a super in front of their faceThis is literally the most balanced you can get. What is the issue?
if anyone wants to mash on kof with me let me know, I finally got the itch to learn it (2002 ultmiate on steam btw)>>746662835yeah I'll play
>>746649305no because 2xko had high tournament numbers while barely having anyone online
>>746647523The deserve the hate, SNK in general deserves hate at this point, joke of a company that wasted plenty of chances to succeed
VF6 will save fighting games(I hope)worst case scenario I get a fun yakuza-lite story mode then fuck around with my friends in a private lobby
>>746663341steam://joinlobby/348550/109775244146103710/76561199063388237PSKDHH
>>746647523This is getting ridiculous... I was watching some CEO tournaments and there's so many gross troons popping up in top 8's. Where are they all coming from? Are these genuinely good players that someday just decided they wanted to bloat the 48 percent of female gamers?
>>746663852>Are these genuinely good playersHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>746647523they just look retarded having “celebrity guests” in the game. Desperate and retarded.
>>746663341Bao players are based. Shame the character is not gonna pop up again
>>746649305Tokon isn’t even good enough to be worth buying at all, ain’t no way I’m buying a subscription for it.
>>746663912I mean are these players who popped up in top 8's or top 16's before but never had much of a name then re-debut as their troon persona? Cause they definitely weren't always crossdressers and I can't imagine a troon suddenly deciding to dedicate themselves to some kusoge like skullgirls
>>746664112Anyone still playing skullgirls is one of the strive trannies that thinks the devs were good for removing any fanservice
>>746664112Unfortunately the tranny propaganda and brainwashing is stronger than ever, leading these poor fucks to where they are. Though it only ever seems to be mainly in anime fighters or Smash games.
>>746664279It was actually a fairly fun set. I played a bit of it years and years back but was frustrated by how long the combos were. Was there some big update lately or something though? I'd never seen Umbrella, Black Dhalia, and the robot Ms Fortune before.
>>746664379There's been a couple updates with a handful of characters as the game got passed between publishers and in the midst of it all the pantyshots/cleavage got censored which is what that fag is pretending to care about. The gameplay has stayed pretty consistent through the years, but the dlc characters have the modern dlc problem where they're some of the cheapest characters in the game
>>746664853I think you’re the fag if you defend censorship. Sorry!
>>746657605Curious how you feel about Strive. For what it's worth, I feel like it's the best balanced and least over the top GG game. Reminds me of the first game in a way, just more zoomed in.
>>746664279This. No one that played it when it came out is playing now.For whatever reason, the current skullgirls playerbase has been infested with trannies that absolutely hate the sexy designs that made the game noteworthy in the first place.
>>746657605+R is literally the best game in the genre
>>746664279>one of the strive trannies You mean the people who were already playing it? Seriously though strive players don't touch that game and Skullgirls players were already such a group of annoying fags and trannies like sonicfox that you'd think they were gg players which makes sense considering who made it.
>>746665265Strive might have the actual worst balance compared to the final versions of xx and xrd. Especially Plus R. I think that’s more because they made everything so watered down that the top tiers in strive just mash buttons and beat everyone else like a stat check. So it’s like every character does a similar thing and it’s more about who does it better. And movement is worse so you can’t outplay anyone, same thing with be cut down movesets. It’s certainly not over the top, but it also ain’t balanced.
>>746663852>>746664327https://youtu.be/77SfC-gmK9oTrannies have been around the FGC for a while, it's just that being trans has become a fad, so you get a bunch of weird autistic nerds transitioning for fun instead of actually having a medical condition they're trying to treat. Pic related is Ricki Ortiz now. I think there's a couple others, but I can't really think of any more
>>746665516Not Strive specific but there's a big problem with modern game balancing. Characters are being homogenized more in order to make match ups easier to understand. But when characters are homogenized differences in performance become more pronounced.I'm sure if you charted win rates in SF6 or Strive you would actually find them to be much more even than in previous games but it feels awful to be on a low tier in these games. But like, playing a bottom tier in an older game rarely feels so bad because your tools and match ups are unique.
>>746665764Ricki was the first major one that I recall, and people generally tried not to mention it as much as possible. Ironically, faggots like Sonicfox and Umisho are the ones who made it hard not to talk about because they were walking controverises/really fucking annoying.
>>746665764>>746666060I miss old school trans people who tried to pass and took the ups and downs of being a woman with the identity. New transwomen aren't fucking women at all. They demand to have the best of both genders while exploiting their identity status to avoid criticism.
>>746666243I suppose that's where some of my light tolerance of them came at first. I remember being fine with it when I was younger. It was only when I became older that I realized the pointlessness of it all, hinged on deep insecurity that leads them to choose that way of living. You just can't change what you're born as.
>>746665265>best balancedReally depends on the patch, 2.0 is mostly decent, but just any patch that has pre-rework HC has meh balance.Even without him, some matchups really fucking sucked. Bridget/Potemkin in Season 4/4.5 was probably just a fucking 2-8 matchup because Pot might just be able to get 3 bursts per round with how little damage Bridget does.>>746665516This post reeks of "I played 5 minutes of Strive trying to play it like +R/Xrd and it didn't work so it's bad and everything is uniform because I didn't explore the game at all"The moveset length isn't even that good of a complaint, Ky has about the same number of specials in +R and Strive. The FBs he doesn't have in Strive can be made up by the fact Strive has the most flexible RC system out of every GG game.
>>746660445I can't understand what they were thinking with the fists coming out of the shadows
>>746647523Still not buying the game
>>746666060>>746666243I'm NOT going to turn my fighting game thread into (another) tranny thread on /v/, but I really wanna address this. This has been a known thing for decades. Pic related is from the 60s or so. My point is that old school transsexuals haven't gone anywhere, they just try to pass and don't tend to talk about being trans, therefore you don't see them. The ones you see nowadays that act like autistic guys in skirts are the Type IIIs or whatever that don't really give a fuck about actually being female and just like to play pretend socially. The internet compounds on itself, like the meme about fucking toasters. 20 years ago these guys would've just crossdressed at home or gone to drag shows, but now that they can find a thousand other retards like them, they've turned it into a movement, which itself is a blight to the ones who genuinely are seeking proper medical care.At any rate, to bring it back to the FGC, I think they are very few and far between, and they certainly never topped the rest of the players in any tournaments. Ricki doesn't even really play anymore, and I don't know what happened to Kayo.
>>746666839Not really, and the actual uses of the moves also matter, and force breaks are especially important for Ky, as well as his jD. Also, his frcs and force breaks both add far more depth than the rc system in strive could. The rc system in strive is restrictive, while frcs are expressive.
>>746647763I thought they fixed it
>>746666839>>746667208I like Strive aesthetically, my main issue is that the game is just not interesting. I feel like every character does the same exact thing and any deviation from that formula is so watered down, it may as well not even be included. I play Bridget in +R and he is literally gutted to shit in Strive. Like, what is the fucking point of even having the yoyo anymore if he can't even use it for setplay. No Roger moves, rolling movement barely matters because the screen is so zoomed in. What the fuck is the point of this character? Rushdown like 90% of the cast already plays + I guess some kind of zoning/mixup thing with the yoyo. It doesn't even stay out long enough for any interesting plays anyway. I like ABA too and she feels equally as meaningless. What's the point of moroha mode when the matches are so short? I could go on, but you get the point.
>>746667208>force breaks are especially important for Ky, And RC somehow isn't?>as well as his jDOne of the main reasons his jD exists, besides mixups, is just to enforce oki because +R's wakeup game is a fucking messBecause Strive doesn't have character specific face up/down timings, you can just use CSE on 2D or certain hitsThis means his jD is relegated to a combo tool, a hard callout against throw techs (on one of the characters that has some of the best strike/throw), and a risky pressure resetAgain you're looking at a different game and wondering why things are different>The rc system in strive is restrictive, while frcs are expressive.You're just throwing buzzwords around without explaining yourselfFRCs are only ever just "I'm cutting recovery short", which is what PRC wound up beingYou cannot drift RC, you do not have Blue RC (which sets up unique mixups), and FRCs do not conserve momentumA mix like Sol's Bandit > fast RC jP/fast RC drift down 2K/fast RC whiff jS throw can't exist without Strive's RC system
>>746668093Compare the gameplay of a truly good Sol player in both +R and Strive. If you do not understand what I mean after that, there’s no helping you.
>>746667895There's some changes I'll defend but Strive Bridget is genuinely gutted and pointlessYour opponent interacts more with the yoyo than you do because it goes away on block, you have no force a recall when set as mine, so it's exclusively limited to being an oki tool into canned pressure sequences. The shitty RPS between mine/projectile isn't even good because on hit the projectile ends up being maybe +2I was genuinely hoping for a rework in 2.0, and somehow they nerfed scooter oki for no fucking reason>rolling movement barely matters because the screen is so zoomed in. The bigger problem is how easy it is to counterhit, the hurtbox is huge so you can 5P relatively safely and you're rarely ever gonna get whiff punished for it (which has to be done on a read too)As a movement tool it's kinda ok, but when compared to Millia's movement it fucking sucks, and Millia is also better on every other aspect>I like ABA too and she feels equally as meaningless. What's the point of moroha mode when the matches are so short? I could go on, but you get the point.That's in part because people don't block, and in other part because moroha mode is insane and turns ABA into a top 3 character Even if you want to not contest "Chipp with disjoints" and down back, she might just do run up 236K and hit you with an 18f overhead that will kill you or even be plus on block
>>746667408"Fixed" is a very big wordThey improved it, I can say that much.
>>746668093frcs do conserve momentum on things like air bandit revolver
>>746665361It's not even the best gane in the XX subseries.
I've been reading up on +r and the consensus is that Ky is the basic neutral heavy character without much else going on but that he's terrible. What others would you suggest instead?
>>746669354Which game is better and why
does fatal fury have the most delusional fanbase? they all think the game is on par with sf, tekken, and strive like they GENUINELY BELIEVE the game is rivaling sf6
>>746668908You're not saying shit, you're just pointing at two games saying "these are different games">>746669279Then I'm remembering wrong, is it standard RC that drops momentum then?>>746669737Ky's biggest problem in +R is trying to play honest in a game about extreme retardation until you use greed severPick whoever you find the most fun, tierwhoring in a game that old is fucking stupid
>>746669737You can win neutral for free with faust, here's my tierlist if you wanna tierwhore
Imagine having a trailer for your accolades
>>746663341ggs thanks for playing
>>746670652ggs man you are really good I'm all sweaty now >_>
>>746663852Say you watched Strive's top 8 without saying you watched Strive's top 8.
feels good to be an avatard
>>746670580Here’s mine. Main thing I’d argue is that Zappa is the weakest of the top tiers you have there, and also that Millia and Zappa aren’t as strong as Faust and Dizzy.
>>746648842kys sylvieschizo
>>746648842OK schizo
>>746664003he has a lot of sex appeal but I'm not totally decided on my 3-man team yetso far I'm thinking bao, hinako, and sexorochi shermiebut of the three only hinako is the one I really wanna play, so I might end up tier whoring for the 3 top tiers (yes I immediately looked up a tier list lol)
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>>746671212Zappa is def not the worst top tier lol, it is arguable which is the best out of baiken, testament and him but zappa dominates the meta very well. Reason I put him as the best is he has the least ammount of bad mus out of the top tiers. I-no is also mid tier at best.
>>746671720This the recent Punk vs Bleed grudge match I keep hearing about?
>>746671720i hate tag slop so muchcan we get a normal fucking 1v1 airdasher already
>>746670592This is a common thing to do. Why are you bitching?
End of regular registration EVO France 2026
>>746672196strive is finally dying, thank god
>>746672281What's next for gg when strive dies?
>>746672196RCaneKO we are living!
>>746672304Hoping for a GG prequel but I'm down with a sequel since GG and BB has the same multiverse logic now.
>>746651869Where can I buy pantyhose like that for my, girlfriend?
>>746672196Sooo there's going to be someone waving #save2XKO flag or t shirt?
>>746672304a new shitass braindead car crashing 4 hit combo big damage no movement game
>>746672304For GG? NothingBB Strive is up next, Arcsissy flagship game
>>746663341>draw a girl>call it a boy why does snk do this?
>>746652702Is it? I know there's a character for CF coming out but I doubt that means they are working on a new Blazblue title especially since Mori left the company and that was his series.
>>746672304Didn't Daisuke say this was the last time he's doing a GG game? If arcsys forces another one out hopefully the next director isn't a pozzed retard
They will patch it ans ruin your favorite character.And you will be happy.
>>746673027but Platinum will be buffed I hope
>>746647523The guy from HxH is cool
>>746672874Bet on Riku Ozawa or Ken Miyauchi?
>>746673027WIll it have a balance patch? Or they will just add trinity
>>746673258Hopefully they'll add a balance patch that fucks up everything. I want chaos.
>>746673027they can't make noellers any worse thoughbeit. no matter what i will win.
>>746673258I mean you can't just add a new character without few adjustments to the overall game right? Or does it happen before I forgor.
Everything has to die and then someone can make shitty doujin fighter that will slowly gain popularity until it can get a full featured release.
>>746673241Riku's gonna be on BlazBlue Strive no?
>>746650721The real bullshit is Mbappe Bolasie Flick cancel into Triple Elástico that he can juggle into Fake Rabona>Tornado spin. 70% of your healthbar gone just with one hit confirm. Biggest fuck you Character
>>746650391want to see DOA girls
>>746673475Anything's possible on changing directors but it's most likely yeah.
>>746650391Does anyone have tried it? It's constant Trails shitposting right now idk why Trails is the #1 target. Yeah why Trails? when does it happened?
>>746672196>SLIMERUSH6 IS TRASH!>it's number 1 every evo>TEKKEKS LMAO >it's number 2 every evo>TOKON IS DYING BRO I SWEAR LOOK AT THE STEAM CHARTS LMAO!>it's in the top 3 every tournament >2XKO LMAO REST IN PISS LMAO!!>literal dead game still getting more entrances than "alive" games>COTW: "I"m just happy to be here, to see you guys, haha!" never listen to /v/tards. Good on COTW still hanging in there. But avatar being beat by 2xko is just embarrassing lmao
>>746673918>>tokon's been in the top 3 every tournamentshits been out for 5 minutes lil nigga
>>746647523quick rundown on the DJ guy?
>>746647868So basically nigger simulator
TGS Arcsys French Bread waiting room
>>746655660Another reason why nobody should use it.
>>746674685???
>>746660445Dude it's Kenshiro. It would be wrong if he couldn't do this.
>>746674889Tokyo Game Show in 2 weeks?
>>746672281Anon one of the games above it will actually eos within a year and have God knows how many dqs, one is an unfinished game that will likely be right next to cotw when it comes to how many players/registrations in a year, and the other is a tag game that will probably actually stay right next to strive as the 4th or 3rd in popularity as both tokon and strive keep releasing new characters.
>>746674987that's not why I'm "???" you mention arcsys which means there was an announcement or are you making shit up?
>>746675013ssshhh let the narrative flow
>>746673918I don't really think being at the very bottom or where mk usually is when they release a new game after being out for a year is hanging on. Strive being as played as it is at all evos after 5 years is hanging on.
>>746675063There's no official news that they will be in TGS so far but I expect for them to be there. I mean they were in TGS last year.
>>746671739I think Testament is the best top tier. I say this as someone who’s played him a lot. I’ve also played Zappa a lot and think his weaknesses are more pronounced than Testament’s, I’d say Zappa Millia and Baiken are all at least slightly below Dizzy and Faust.
>>746675076But that's just being a delusional retard.
>>746672304Strive 3.0
>>746666839Strive RCs are cool but they're really held back by being in Strive.In a vacuum they have a lot more options than older RCs but in practice every character uses them in basically the same ways to do basically the same things in basically the same situations. Like fast BRC overheads are neat when you first realize they are possible, but all they really add to the game is a single neat way to do an overhead because every character uses them the same and gets basically the same options to go into and out of them. RRC was way more limited even in Xrd where they added the big slowdown but that meant how you could use it was really character dependent, everyone in Strive does the same hit>up RRC>5[D] juggle into c.S or whatever. FRCs and YRC let you do some nasty mixups, if your character has the right unique tools for it, every Strive character just does tap dust RRC, usually even into the same up RRC 5[D] thing. Even the stuff that is kind of similar, like +r Millia hair car FRC high/lows and Strive hair car "frc" mixups, in +r it's a completely unique thing using a cancel option and a special that no other character really has anything like, in Strive it's just the universal fast BRC mixup done from a special that leaves you airborne, essentially identical to >>746668093 Sol's fast RC mix and every other example of that, and is usually worse than TK Bad moon 88RRC 5[D] anyway, which itself is just a slightly better version of the truly universal tap dust 88RRC.>And RC somehow isn't?Obviously RC is important for Strive Ky, it's just not uniquely important. You "make up for" his FBs by doing the same thing every other character does with it.
>>746673918ultra retarded post well done
>>746675013Avatar has legs. Trust the plan. It'll be top 3 in the next major tournament.
Why do people not like GBVSR or CotW? They're both kino and nice alternatives to SF6
>>746676160No brand recognition
>>746673027He’s the worst character in the game already, I hope they overbuff him
>>746669995Accent Core. Because +R made everything worse and also shat out Cliff and Justice into the wild, while they are both kind of shit they are absolutely fucking ass to fight against.
>>746673918how come it keeps winning when it's not doing nothing?! I don't understand this. We have been complaining for years and capfucks wont do anything and its still winning!?
>konami renewed the bloody roar trademark and have a showcase coming up
>>746648734lmao I hope you live in Australia or New Zealand to be making such a claim, because Grid Iron is definitely just as lame as soccer.
>>746650638These actually are the controls for FIFA games?
>>746676160I ain’t playing a game with random soccer players and djs. Granblue has Belial and Ladiva.
>>746677232Bloody Roar Master Collection when
>>746676160If someone wants SF without SF6 shit that looks like it was pulled from a retarded arcsys fan's mind why would rising or cotw ever be an alternative?>inb4 muh rising neutral
>>746676878Wasn’t Zappa’s sword not disconnected before +R? Lots of cool stuff got added in plus r.
>>746676878Skill issue, Ac had more cancerous chars like eddie, slayer, pot and testament
>>746676930Because people who are complaining are minorities of the playerbase just like the people who wanted strive to be more like Xrd or +R and actually thought arcsys might make the game more like either when it explicitly did well because it's not like either which told arcsys they shouldn't change it drastically.
>>746678258Strive did well because of when it released. Had nothing to do with the trannyisms other than it making the players it did get be weirdos.
>>746675929>Strive RCs are cool but they're really held back by being in Strive.Strive RCs in Xrd/+R would turn either of the games into kusoge, there's just too much shit you can do off of it>everyone in Strive does the same hit>up RRC>5[D] juggle into c.S or whateverThis is more of a symptom of Strive having universal routes, you can still do unique character stuff or use these to set up mixupsFast RC is generally prefered anyway because it's less meter hungryOn Dizzy, I have one off 5D+Ice Field where I'll use the momentum of the ice field to hit 2H cross under and combo away from the wall so I can loop mixups into wings of lightTestament can do 236S fast RC up jS>jD>delay teleport, which has the effect/bug of turning what should normally be a grounded teleport into an airborne one Slayer's got his Pilebunker loops, May's got Dolphin loops, both can be had from RRC>every Strive character just does tap dust RRCBase level yes, you'd be stupid not to use a 25f overhead that doesn't require any setup, and some characters just don't have the choice If you look more into it, there's tons of unique character shitYou've setups that require stand-blocked airborne projectile oki into BRC to setup instant overheads (Elphelt, Dizzy or Baiken can do it)Nagoriyuki can true blockstring into 5D because 6H has a fuckton of blockstunLeo can force backturn, and H EisenstrumElphelt, Ram and Unika are the only characters that can do dash cancel BRC outside of 5K/cS, which has the advantage of having almost no tension penalty, can be used for both pressure and comboSlayer has a meaty BRC setup after BSU where he can do crossup Pilebunker and get a plus on block guardcrush setupPotemkin can unblockable you at 100% meter with Garuda>BRC>Pot Buster/HPB on jump/Strike on backdashI don't know it's kinda like just saying "Oh YRC is win neutral instantly", it's just looking at the most simple application of a mechanic and assuming that's all there is
>>746676930Because it's street fighter you goober. 5 "won" while doing nothing too, but it also brought us into the dark ages of fighting games. When SF sucks, the scene sucks since most people just play SF.
>hop back onto strive after a break to finish up the battle pass>win a seti forgot how nice winning feels
>>746678519It did well because of numerous things like the release AND not being like the other games with the latter still being a very important reason why it still has as many players as it does now.>trannyismsI didn't mention bridget or testament and either clearly had no real affect on the game positively or negatively. Testament being nerfed to bottom 1 was funny though.
>>746677917Testament is infinitely more cancerous in +R than in AC, fuck off.
>>746678878Also to add on GG players were are always weirdos and freaks like those niggers patthteflip, yohosie, woolie, deb, sajam, jiyuna, etc.
>>746648734Calling Ronaldo a rapist tells me all i need to know about your reddit ass canadian/uk faggot antifa mind
>>746678889Lmao no he's not, if shows you never played Ac.
>>746678980Mike Z was an Axl player iirc.
>>746679160He played pot
>>746678980Jiyuna hates ggxx because the dustloop forums mocked melty players lol
>>746679245Ouh right
>>746647523calling an actual rapist overhated is crazy.
>>746679160>>746679315Yeah he was a pot player and is in the exact same camp as patthefilipinx with the way he sucked up to sonicfox
>>746676930we aren't the target audience. this is all on Japan.
>>746678878>>746678980Uh huh… I think you’re intentionally leaving out who the strive weirdos are.
>>746679557Trannies, the weirdos are trannies like yohosie and deb who I mentioned or who supported and were fine with the tranny retardation. Someone post the screenshot of a fag pornstar challenging another to a GG match.
>>746679683Okay but with strive almost every single player is like that and the actual game actively supports them. If you saw that today in strive you’d think it’s a normal top 8. Testament and Bridget are literally men. But you see strive players insist they’re not.
>>746660445The "K.O." shaking and exploding is a neat detail
The biggest thing for any discussion like this is that Plus R is the best game in the genre while strive is one of the worst 2D fighters of its generation. All the trannies in the world can’t save strive from that fate.
>>746679969plus r is cool from what i've played i wished they fairhfully remake it with granblue-tier graphics so it'll become the third most popular fightan
anyone who thinks +R is the best game in the genre has clearly not played enough nitroplus blasters
>>746679803If every player was like that ty, fab, daru, kshue, verix, nitro, red, pepper jack and so on wouldn't exist and the scene would have actually imploded. I also forgot to mention hotashi and sonicsols cockmuching asses in my last post. Love anime fighters but I will hate the people who play them, and especially arcsys ones, from the bottom of my soul.
>>746680052I got to eat and sleep called pepperysplash pepper jack.
>>746660732Dsp is a retard that doesnt really take any enjoyment in learning how to play a game using the tools and expects to go online without even getting basics down and dominate.However, ive always stood my ground that fighting games specifically, are most fun when you're learning and figuring out the game and get exponentially less fun when you figure out the systems and character frames. It goes from exciting, thrilling, suprising to "why the fuck is this move safe on block, how the hell does this move not punish, what the hell are these hitboxes, this character is completely braindead and that character is quite literally a wasted slot"
>>746680045The discord link is dead, what gives?
>>746680149Oo lala behemoth typhoon threat
>>746647523>FGCUnfortunate acronym.
>>746647868Streets of rage?
>>746680301vagueposting_king.jpg
>>746647868Duskbloods
tekken8 is the only good fighter out there
Is what I say when I consume copious amounts of cocaine.
/tekg/ is "here"
>>746679969I feel like people started larping +R extra hard just as part of some deluded counter measure against Strive trannies.
>>746676930>have good netcode>give players hubs that fucking work>extra control methods for people new to the game>all the single player shit they shoved in like World Tour, avatar dress up in general, and arcade games you can play online or even unlock for you to play whenever you wantBottom line, Street Fighter 6 didn't launch as barely a game like V did so as a result Capcom can allow it to coast since they've already exceeded their previous installment's sales in less than half the time. For better or for worse everything in 6 works as intended unlike in V where they had to scramble mode and shove in new moves and mechanics and unfuck their own modeling because everything worked and functioned like hot ass from day 1.
>>746676930Because everything else sucks even worse. Other devs can barely get a functioning release out without immediately burning people. Look at Strive, that game's launch numbers were ridiculous for an anime fighter, it had everything in the world going for it, people were literally fucking locked into their homes forced to find shit to do online while it was the only modern fighting game with rollback, and you know what happened? The devs still managed to screw the rest of the online up after hiring someone to do rollback for them. That is Capcom's competition. That's why FGs in general aren't popular. Success handed to them on a silver platter and they still find a way to squander it and make people regret spending $60 on a product worse than literal free games.
>>746680052NAGE, Omito, Kazunoko save meeeee
What +Retards won't tell you is how options like FRC and force breaks completely destroy the meter economy. Why would you ever do a regular roman cancel when you can do it for half the cost WHILE doing a move that likely goes into up setplay or helps in neutral? Normal roman cancels and supers are made irrelevant unless you're blessed with one that is utter bullshit like Venom and I-No, beside that they're relegated to shit for beginners who can't do FRCs yet. Devs need to finally fucking realize adding an option that spends 25% of a bar in a game designed around you spending 50% of a bar for an option is fucking stupid.
>>746673918What fighting game does /v/ like again?
>>746672281>WOW it only took 5 years to kill!I mean most games dont even last that long
>>746680910None, every fighting game is ass. The genre itself is inherently fun but it has no good games.
>>746680887>Why would you ever do a regular roman cancel when you can do it for half the cost WHILE doing a move that likely goes into up setplay or helps in neutral? Normal roman cancels and supersA lot of chars have use for roman cancels and supers, It's the coolest mechanic in the game so who cares
>>746680910SF6
>>746680887I NEED FB BECAUSE I'M STILL LEARNING CLEAN HIT SIDEWINDER
>>746680887RC are basically what PRCs are in Xrd, theyre correctional rather than deliberate. Even if they cost a full 50, some characters do need them so they wouldnt get fucked if they committed to them. HOS 2HS comes to mind.
Guilty gear only having 50% options is the lamest shit of all time
Yes meter management is a menace
>>746660445How the fuck is it that I just now find out Kenshiro was added to this game?
>>746680030I like the sprites more. It feels a certain way I don’t think models can replicate. But I’d certainly welcome more games that play similarly to Plus R.>>746680572I disagree. Plus R is genuinely incredible, and I also find the strive trannies disgusting. That my playing Plus R angers them is a nice bonus.
>>746673749Earlier this week. Some guy managed to do DLSS5 on Trails 1st chapter for fun while increasing the filters for sloppier outputs
>>746680887>Why would you ever do a regular roman cancel when you can do it for half the cost WHILE doing a move that likely goes into up setplay or helps in neutralDP RC, that’s one of Sol’s best uses of meter despite the powerful frcs and force breaks he has. Next to gunflame frc. But also ground viper rc and so on. This is a strange complaint. Even Testament, despite H beast frc functioning as an frc for every special cancellable normal, has uses for RC such as badlands RC to set up backturn oki.
>>746680052Crazy that FAB still a Pot loyalist for over three games for 21 years.
>>746680910According to last thread when someone asked what people are playing and with what controller, strive.
Fighting around the world
>>746681848Nigga that's like 8 out of 10 replies on that post and most of them are multi fighters including Strive and +R.
>>746672196So this will be the "last and final" EVO before it goes 9+ EVO next year right? I'm hoping for some big hype fanfare for this but I wouldn't expect it much. I think I'll just watch EVO Japan only next year from that point on.
>>746674685September this year might the most packed content for fighting games yet.>UNI2 Zohar>DOA6LR Minato>GBVSR Id>COTW Kim Kaphwan>State Of Play>TGS
>>746683319There's going to be more Avatar news on PAX West this weekend.
>>746683319>>State Of Play>>TGSWhat happens here?
>>746683538Nothing
>>746683538SF6 content
>>746683507Nice.>>746683538For TGS, French Bread with Twi Lumina is gonna be there, Koei Tecmo/Team Ninja will be there too but idk if there's gonna be DOA7 news though, Sega is there hopefully with VF Crossroad, Arcsys too probably because I need a dose for BBCF Trinity update news and GG Strive guest character reveal. For State of Play, ehh not so much but probably something maybe anything about DOA7 or VF Crossroads too if possible.
>>746683538State of Play will likely tell when Phoenix Cyclops will come out and I assume it will show the next DLC chracter as well.Who knows at TGS, maybe Granblue Season 3 very unlikely but I will belive
>>746683802Oof forgor about Tokon phoenix Cyclops
>>746682061If it's 8 out of 10 posts with a bunch of multi fighter players then doesn't that support what what I said? This place likes strive and +r
>>746683802Don’t even need a season 3 just make Nier good again
>>746683856Not him but I like Plus R but think strive sucks donkey butt
>>746683856eh I guess so
KUSO KINO IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYShttps://youtube.com/watch?v=XlBKfEfrBMg
Still having a rough time finding a fighting game I can like
Nasu will give up on his retarded canon shit and let the protagonist back into her game right?
>>746683802>spoilernyesBelieve in Victory
What the FUCK is a "Phoenix Cyclops"?
>>746684325I tried a previous version of this game, the zoner is pretty neat but I think FM2K doesn't agree with any of my controllers
>>746683856>this place likes strive[x]doubt
>>746684731Have you been paying attention the conversation or jumping in with an excuse to post I-no tits. Either is fine I'm just asking.
>>746649460The fuck does this image mean, Ingrid was very popular with people who were aware of her back in 2006
Actually even without last thread this place constantly talks about how it like strive. Those release strive threads here lasted so long specifically because of this fact.
>>746684343Keep playing, I didn't find my fav pgame until two years of playing this genre.
>>746677496>These actually are the controls for FIFA games?Most sports games are like that anon.
>>746684974>Ingrid was very popular with people who were aware of her back in 2006Demonstratively false, at least within the english speaking sf community. There were always a few die hard fans but Ingrid before sf6 was mostly known for being one of the most hated fighting game characters. To the point were people didn't know anything about her besides how hated she was.
When are they adding Emma Frost to Tokon?
>>746683017Pretty much.
>>746684391Nah, he's the got the Fate/Extra remake nonsense to sort out now.
>>746685616They're gonna do the Phoenix Four (or Five, it doesn't matter) as a team
>>746686576kruber is that you?
>>746679072your reading comprehension given by the way you replied shows me all i need to know about your brown saar ass, gms btw
reminder in +R:-most pokes can be backdashed safely midscreen, or be avoided with certain overheads-speaking of overheads, most standing overheads can be jumped out of. You might not cleanly jump out though and will have to FD block-always mash throw and always chicken block until the opponents starts to counter that shit
just bought yet another fighting game, not looking forward to having to learn 3 characters. Does kofxv have neutral at least?
>>746687268NoKoF characters are only annoying when you need to start doing EX juggle bullshit. The game has like 20+ shoto adjacent characters who can get by learning nothing but crouching lights > command normal > special > super.
>>746687268yeah it probably has a lot of people who feel neutral about the game
>>746686576>four more fire charactersjeez. i hope you're wrong.
>>746687268It has -some- neutral, yes, at the very least in the round between point characters anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2XYVxogSdYCraziest video I've seen in the game by far.
>>746688464>clayton schizoshant be clicking
>>746685548>Demonstratively false>source: literally r*dditAUGHGHGHGHGHGHGH I fucking hate you twitter tourists
>>746688765Feel free to post literally anything that proves whatever the fuck you want to prove.
>>746688464Fuck off Clayton
>>746688684>>746688929Clayton triggering you guys again. He's based, based video too.
>>746647752Their modern games suck
I used to think Clayton had a dedicated fanbase of weirdos sucking him off, but it's always just Clayton himself posting this shit isn't he?
>>746689003yeah I'm seething with rageanyway still not watching your videos
>>746688765Try me. Name the site and I probably have some kind of hate comment on Ingrid, you have to name the popular fgc forum this screen cap comes from first tho.
People hating on Clayton is cringe as fuck because he's not even one of the bad guys. He's one of the only good guys we even have.
I should play Ingrid...is she any fun to use?
>insufferable narcissistic cunt>"good guy"Shut the fuck up Clayton
All I know about Clayton is he's a cool tech inventor in GG games especially +R.
if you wanted me to like him you'd stop spamming his fucking videos everywhere
>>746689226Funnest character in SF6, but at the same time arguably the weakest. Not recommended if you can't stand getting your shit pushed in by retard gorilla pressure.
>>746689096You mad Clayton won't have sex with you or something?
>>746689208I don't care about any "guys"I don't care about e-celebs
>>746689383>funnest character in SF6that's alex though with his spin da wheel stance
>>746689254>insufferable narcissistic cunt>ClaytonAre we talking about different Claytons?I'm talking about this one here who constantly says he got lucky that he is able to win and gives loves to even his own haters.https://youtu.be/3s8FmucJXB8I think we are talking about 2 different ones. This one above is based af.
>>746689495I already made the mistake of watching one of your videos some time ago faggot, I am not giving you any more views. Ever.I know what you are.
>>746689598Sounds like Clayton beat you pretty bad. But every video of his I watch he really constantly says how lucky he is that he was able to win. Maybe thats a humble brag. But a insufferable narcissistic cunt? That's a lot of projecting.
why are you obsessed with another man
https://youtu.be/7pAXOywNRY4Clayton being the real life Jesus of the scene. Shows love to even his haters. Clayton loves you anon even if you hate him and lie about him. We know you only are mad because he doesn't look like a incel.
>>746689661Yeah yeah whatever, go beg for attention elsewhere faggot, I'm done with this conversation.
>>746689383>Funnest character in SF6that's c viper with her super jump cancels even if she's been crippled
>>746677496Makes you wonder who is actually complaining about motion controls
Charge character in 2026 status?
>>746690606I like playing Heidern in KOF
>>746690606Currently extinct
>>746686576Ain't nobody paying for Namor and Colossus.
>>746690606Dead
>>746685184Right, but atp I haven't tried another fighting game in about a month and I've been trying to get into them for almost a year
>>746690697nice>>746690703>>746690787grim :(
>>746690606She was the only character I could somewhat play when I tried to play strive. I have zero idea why so many retards say strive is good if you're new to fighters.
Watching Americans try to cancel fucking Ronaldo last year was the peak of comedy. The fag would never rape a woman and he'd never need to. And trying to cancel a man that's more popular than Jesus x10 is a fool's errand. Burger FGC mongoloids had not the faintest fucking clue what they were actually dealing with because he doesn't toss the pigskin.
>>746690947be quiet favela monkey
>>746690947
>>746690906Goes to show that charge inputs is the easiest motion among motion inputs
>>746691053I haven't played in a while and completely forgot what her charge inputs were
>>746690985>>746690995I don't live on your cursed shithole, human-sacrifice nigger continent. Not a latinx. I even fucking hate football with a passion; I just don't live in the isolated bubble that is planet America and recognize that Ronaldo is the most popular man on this planet, bar none.
>>746691454how often do you think of america?
>>746691454Bro you fell for the bait
>>746639119nope, it's because you deserve no answer but thanks for waiting until i was gone to respondi return the favor in kind
This nigga replying to 12+ hour old post from last thread lmao
>>746647523I actually started listening to Salvatore because of the game and he's cool.
>>746690606>charge was invented to be easier than motions>was put on very simple characters at first, makes sense>devs see the potential of charge and start making more and more complex charge characters>charge ends up being associated with complex characters>now charge is considered more complex than motions>charge starts getting phased out partially because some games want to homogenize inputs across characters like in DBFZ>charge is back to being relegated to only simple characters like Guile and May but get removed from Dictatorfunny how that all works out>>746690906fighting games do not magically become easier to play if they have simple inputs, see 2xko for reference. where strive succeeds is that it has by far the simplest metagame to grasp out of modern fighters and most characters have a braindead way to play that makes matchups very straightforward to understand, aside from a very small number of outliers like Asuka. In general I would say that Strive is easier than Pokken which is made for Nintendo fans and has easy inputs
>>746691727>removed from Dictatortragic
>>746647523Is that Salvatore Ganacci?
>>746691562Kekaroooooo
There is literally no reason to play Xrd. All the fucking pieces of shit on there are just egotistical assholes who dedicate their fucking life to this game who will be toxic to you if you bitch about their character. Sorry I didn't have 5 thousand fucking hours in the game like you do, I'm just trying to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME. It's almost difficult for me to not smash my table apart from frustration. I genuinely cannot fucking stand playing this fucking game with the cretins who populate it. This is why the shit isn't popular or well played. Just full of tryhards who play like fucking assholes who should kill themselves and all jerk each other stuff.
the reason you shouldnt play xrd is because pattheflip thinks its the only good fighting game in the last 15 years and then he went on to lead for 2xko
>>746690947I just don’t care about your random ass soccer player and he looks dumb in a fatal fury game
I like Tokon a lot, for a new IP that's trying something new the foundations are pretty great. After how much the game changed during the beta I'm interested to see what the first major balance patch will be like and how they'll adjust system mechanics. I have no reason to believe this game will die despite what doomerfags will say either, as far as bad fighting game launches go Tokon on PC isn't the worst I've seen.
Every single new fighting game is and will be dogshit.
>>746692025>>746692069Xrd fags are truly scum, just a tier below the capcultists
>>746691727Perhaps it's time for synthesis
>>746692321Kagura right
>>746691727>fighting games do not magically become easier to play if they have simple inputs, see 2xko for referenceI completely understand as I've tried a shit ton of fighting games including 2xko as everybody and their dead grandma said it would be so welcoming to new players (not even remotely true)
>>746692321you can even use joe higashi in fatal fury 2/specialcharge down -> qcf
>>746692321The fuck is that
>>746692321>Charge half circleHooh I came on this
>>746672196Imagine making a AAAA game with a 10 year developer cycle and a $75k prize bonus just still get 4th in entrants at an event hosted in the country known for loving tag fighters. Like they couldn't even beat Tekken when Tekken isn't big in France.
>>746692362Yeah, Kagura super and Tao astral came to mind when I tried to think of examples
>>746681409Models can't replicate it because GG has lost it's heavy metal roots. Strive, from an artistic point, is so much less edgy than +R it's not even funny.
>>746693102Yeah especially with like Paracelsus and Testament. Strive is too much like a modern Disney movie for me.
>another day, another majority of losseshow you bros holdin up
>>746693272I only win because I play Bob Richards. TEKKEN 8 is the perfect game for Bob.
>>746693272another "play just bad enough to doom spiral and start focusing on all the bad things in your life when I was just trying to have fun" episode
>>746647523https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivfDWHh0dVAMK Tom Brady going nuclear on the FGC has been very cathartic.
>>746669279same for strive frc in the air
can we agree that +R does NOT have the best character select screen? That goes to Reload. And the best character portraits? Isukapic related
>>746693752anyone who calls him insane after his rant are the exact kind of people he's talking about, most of this is incredibly concise and lines up with how top FGC creators act in the sense that you don't see similar behavior from other top people in other genres since western FGC people tend to play multiple games at once instead of only sticking to the single one they prefer
>>746692759>Tekken isn't big in France.It is.
J'AIME LE JAPON. JE TROUVE INCROYABLE QU'ON PUISSE OBTENIR DES MOUCHOIRS DANS LA RUE, GRATUITEMENT
who are the ball and gun players of the fgc?
>>746685548>4 hours ago>I was in the gaming scene back then, but I didn't play fighting gamesgo back, faggot
>>746694069tekken was the gun & ball of fighting games in the PS2/PS3 times
i can't fucking take this anymore. I don't play for a couple of months and all my knowledge goes to shit taking me back to square one. I completely forgot how to think and what to focus on during games. And now i have to start from scratchhow do you cope with this shit? Feel like a fucking retard
>>746693856Because it isn't drawn entirely by Daisuke? One thing I will always like is Ky's +R art. Still the coolest for me next to Reload art and Strive art.
>>746685616Given that the game won't get support next year, never
>>746693884And so many of them are the worst people you could ever bring on as consultants because they are, at their core, broke niggas that know the gravy train depends on flattering the devs and potentially nudging the game in ways that make it easier for them to win the first couple cash tournaments before fucking off to parasite off the next developer they can whisper the siren song of "there's money in fighting game e-sports" to and ultimately fuck over. And leaving developers who brought them on for their expertise so that this game could make money in the red.
>>746694157You gotta swap to shoto or grappler where everything is just intuitive.
>>746694169i don't think daisuke draws any character select art, none of +r, xrd and strive look like his style
>character's pressure is obnoxious>can't mash out of it>answer is to backdash and jump outdefending is lame
>>746694238I haven't unlocked this dress yet. Pantsu color status?
>>746647523The problem with this image is that Salvatore is genuinely fun to play
>>746692321we must go even further beyond
>>746694629ronaldo is too
Is it always going to be an uphill battle if I want to main this nutter? I swear I always pick the struggle characters because Tao and Makoto have been the two I've been trying in BBCF and they're both hard for different reasons.
>>746694715That's just a charge 360 motion nothing crazy
>>746694767oof wait that's not a shortcut is it?
>>746694760you will never reach a skill level where tier list matters
>>746653830SF6 and T8 both have amazing visuals that are either on par or better then strive, no amount of contrarianism will refute that.
>>746694767not quite, it's a flash kick into back forward up, and it actually has to be in that order it's not like a 360 where you just hit each direction oncebasically impossible to input during normal gameplay since the charge makes it hard to even hide behind other animations like a 720 that you can just do fast while dashing or whiffing a button
jarvis post chimperly.wep
>>746694807Perhaps true but how do I deal with fuckass huge normals from Es and the bullshit of Relius as the humble squirrel?
>>746694715A good reason motions like this should be restricted to supers or hidden supers or even instant kills.
>>746694809Dix looks absolutely fucking revolting.Model quality does not automatically make good visuals, all the characters look ugly as shit. In an EXTREMELY detailed way which only makes it worse.
nigga said sf6 had amazing graphics lol
>>746694932With Relius you can just block him out, his overhead is slow and his command grab is even slower
I continue to Rivals 2. I continue to WebM.
>>746695838how is it going in platformland? Did melee fag finally embrace the only spiritual successor to their game or nah? Can't believe ultimate is still played, that game is dodoo. Not rancid fuming diarrhea like smash 4 but still bad
>>746695909NTA but I still pray for brawlback, I want P+ with good netcode dammit
>>746694932you have to use unconventional movement and get in solid pokes to out range relius. Hit his doll to get rid of it temporarily. Relius immediately summoning his doll to attack costs a lot of gauge so they try not to for example do buzzsaw too much in neutral. Any other doll attack needs Relius to be close to you to be effective to cover the doll after attacking.
>>746695838That lizard thing looks coolAre heavies dogshit in this game like they are usually in Smash?
>>746695946why do you wanna play brawl?Also in my youth i used to play brawl+. Ah the memories, before i even knew what trad fightans were
>>746647523penaldo is fucking aids, the dj is funny
>>746696071Do people call him "Penaldo" because he fucked up a penalty kick or something like that, or is it related to "Penal" like in prison?
>>746695909Melee is Melee and Rivals is Rivals; if anything, it's a spiritual successor to PM, which is why so many PM players play it. The game is good, but there's a confluence of factors preventing it from reaching the audience it needs to thrive:>not on consoles until late 2027 or 2028>returning characters and guest characters were delayed to focus on new characters>monetization is too consumer-friendly, but the game isn't big enough for whales to sustainSo it's mostly just crawling to a console release with what resources they have. I don't begrudge Melee players for not playing RoA2, they're very different games.>>746695946Brawlback is looking like a never-ever, sadly.
>>746654819>t. faggot
>>746653696retard take
>>746647675You're lucky, i know and i'm not proud for it.
>>746693884>anyone who calls him insane after his rant are the exact kind of people he's talking aboutsnk fags been doing that so you just called them insane, how does it feel?!
>>746696045>Are heavies dogshit in this game like they are usually in Smash?No, every heavy in the game is competitively viable. The lizard thing in question just won a major this month, actually. What I appreciate more than the heavies being viable is that they're all unique. There's a:>brawler with good normals, a projectile, and a command grab>normal zoner with disjointed hitboxes and a projectile that he (or the opponent) can juggle>rushdown character with low ground friction and a dash attack that can be jump canceled>set play character with great neutral, great advantage, horrible disadvantage, and too many gimmicks to go into (the lizard)While the all-arounder characters are more consistent and have better MU spreads than the more specialized archetypes, I feel like any character except two can top 8, if not win, tournaments.
>>746693752Listened to this earlier today. He's 100% right. The relationship between the FGC and fighting game developers is inherently parasitic. They're yes men who are financially motivated to pretend that your game is the next big thing, and you get nothing out of listening to them.In the end, the secret is just to develop a good, fun game where the fun outweighs the friction - which is why you'll see people willingly go 10-0 in Avatar slamming rematch after rematch. Game's good and, perhaps more importantly, different. I hope they announce that they're getting their shit together.
>>746653696>snk will genuinely never be able to make a new game reach anywhere near strive popularitythis is a true statementit makes insecure snk fags upsetbut so does anything else, them drug cartel loser fanboys are busy trying to figure out how to find the naysayers of snk so they can decap them
>>746693752his point about max made me feel cathartic because holy shit literally everybody was gassing this fucking game up and THEN SOME compared to max, you have an entire loud group of retards declaring it'll be the greatest game ever and how the fgc is saved.
>>746693752I WANT A SUB ZERO MASK
>>746696627Cool, good to know heavies are not relegated to a permanent uphill battle. Thanks for the detailed explanation Anon
>>746666243>New transwomen aren't fucking women at all.Yes because 90% of them are just autogynephelic autstic weirdos that are simply perusing their fetishes to their logical conclusion. Umisho is a perfect example of a faggot that probably couldn't get laid at all before becoming a troon and has to remind everyone how much of a "women" he is while being smug.
>>746696893nw
>>746696125Penalty kick + Ronaldo = PenaldoRonaldo haters call him Penaldo to claim he can't score "real" goals and needs penalty goals to pad his stats and look better than he actually is. Same goes for Pessi, Penbappe...
>>746696963kek I seeThanks for spoon feeding
>>746677496Those yearly sports games haves a much higher skill floor then "modern" fighting games.But most people who talk in that space dont play sports games so they'll never know what it really is like.
>>746697109reeeeeeee sports games don't have frame data or hitbox data they cannot be deep reeeeeee
>>746683941Sorry but Nier's crimes at Rising's release will be punished by being bad for years like Ferry was.
>>746696792https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56f6vV4YZpQ
>>746698035you are literally the person mk tom brady is talking about
>>746650174It's less bad than Skullgirls putting Sonicfox in their tutorial level.
>>746672196the absolute state of Saudi of the Fools
>>746698631reading comprehension
>>746699038That's literally you though
>>746695946me too buddy... me too...
Every fightan should have Terry in it.
>log on>alright, let's warm up>simple combo, just A B C 236A.>Let's go!>A B>A B C 2A>A B C>A>okay one second *deep breath*>A B C 236A>A B (bot blocks it) C 236A>A B C (bot blocks it) 236B>faster, just have to do it faster>A 2A>A 236>A B C 236AB>A B C 214A>jesus christ *deeeep breath*>A B C 236B>A B C 236B>it's fucking 236A jesus christ>A B C 236A>A B C 236A>there we go>A B C 2A>A B C 2A>clean inputs, focus on clean inputs>A B C 236A>A B>A B 2C>A>deep breath, just focus>A B C 2A>A B C 2A>A B C 214A>A B C 236A>okay, let's try B C 236A>B>B >B>B C>B C 236A>B C 236A>B C 236A>alright now back to the first one>A B C 236B>A B C>A B C>A C>A C>A B C 236A>let's try C>C 236A>C 236A >C 236A>C 236BI live in hellYou can't possibly understand what it's like living with a mind and body like this
>>746700228get a vyvanse prescription bro
>>746700228what the fuck are you saying
>>746647523Is that the guy who has a music video of beating up old ladies?
>>746647675Umm ronaldo and david guetta?
>>746700270Now that she's dead and not an immortal Mishima, who is going to replace her?
Tokon has questionable system mechanics. It's not as much of a fighting game as it's a lightshow in a lot of ways. I've been looking for something with a better game feel, fundies, finess. I hate the constant zoom ins, cutscenes, impact freeze frames. -Leffen
>>746692107good post, i agree with your assessment. i just wish the DLC release schedule was more swift.
>>746700319You just get addicted to that sort of shit and ruin your life even more.
>>746692107I wanted to like it but that beta kinda sucked and learning the game in the beta wasn't even remotely fun. Also it felt like what mk tombrady said about casuals wanting to not spend anything after 30 losses in a row.
>>746700491she's getting bred daily by claudio though
>>746700927Yeah the gaps between the dlc characters releasing is fairly large, I do wonder if they'll drop Promoter as a free character along with Champion's previous form in-between the regular season pass.
why do you niggas talk about fgc content creators like they've personally slighted you. this thread has a very weird vibe,, like 50% of the posts are seething over what an eceleb says its very parasocial
>>746670031Saudi money blind them
>watching tourney>"chick"azama>It's all so fucking tiresome
>>746701525SNK is only alive because of them but will never grow because of them
>>746701819thats an actual woman and she's been playing hazama for like a decade if not more anon
>>746701909Yes yes, all trans women are real women, very epic le Brisket
>>746701935no i mean it literally not a tranny at all, why do you intentionally try to find things to get upset about? she's some autistic latina who has hazama as a husbando and has been playing him as long as i can remember
>>746697428>like Ferry was.Ferry was only bad during Rising's first season. She's been a top 5 character since the beginning of season 2. Nier on the other hand was Tier 0, by definition going by top 8 representation, until she had every bone in her body broken eight months later and has remained in the hospital since 1.5.
>>746680412kek
When someone says the FGC is gatekeeping causals, what are they really saying? It sounds like nonsense to me
The only fighter I play right now is Dark Souls 3
https://x.com/CooscoTX/status/2094931794139189448
>>746702954>Arena Fighter with two meter managementcringe
>>746703027goddamn. he hit 'em with the Slime Schimmy. he crumbled under the mental stack. lol
>>746703027they could add a single move that only counters slime rush and sucks against everything else and it would improve the game tenfold
>>746703152I'm not saying I'm not playing a kusoge, but you makes it sound like a massive skill issue. Git Gud and only complain about actual problems like daggers/exploding bolts/fire surge.
>>746672196I'm still impressed at GBVSR for still holding strong
>>746647523The collective consciousness of the FGC is Max Dood this whole time?
>>746672196*pant* need evo jappa next year *pant*
>>746672196btw Fr*nce is the stronghold for 2xko in Europe, it's part of the 2xko money tour and most people that signed up for it did so and planned their trips before the shutdown announcement.And it's still struggling, the next evo is barely gonna have anyone signing up
avatar ranked is out (kinda?)
>>746703903best gametime to drop tokon
>>746703782Next EU EVO might not be in France tooAlso the fact that Strive is this low tells me that this EVO France might be a flop overall
>>746704582>the fact that Strive is this low tells me that this EVO France might be a flop overallIt's the same issue as EVO Vegas, Nice is an expensive touristic city
Fighting games are saved.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sP7R9kEbkA>>746703698Jappas unironically believe everyone in the west is like Max, and some developers even take his (terrible) advice.
>>746704582strive is over 5 years old, and a lot of arcsys players went to tokon, I am asking out of genuine curiosity, doesn't it make sense newer games are higher?
>>746704840people will say they want grounded footsies fighters and then wont play this
>>746704862Did Strive players migrate though? Strive charts didn't go lower and will be higher than Tokons in 2 weeks
>>746704862I'm saying this because Strive has a really solid community in EU that wouldn't jump ship just because it's new. Strivers in general don't care about FGs, they care about Strive. At best they will try other ArcSys games as second pick.It should be at the very least close to 2XKO ranking, yet it's beaten by AL which shouldn't be particularly popular.Maybe they ended up boycotting the event but I think it's more of a global decrease than just GGST.
We will be watching 2XCOTW:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu7R8IZav8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb3PWMknJQk
