Does anyone want to talk about this massive and immersive mod called Tamriel Rebuilt that just a huge update a few weeks ago for Morrowind? I saw a few Morrowind threads on /v/ lately and kept seeing TR being talked about by everyone that I decided to give it a try, and it's mind-blowing. It adds more quests than the original Morrowind.. creates like 2-3x more land to explore, all hand-crafted, new major cities, everything. It has completely remade the game into something special. Discuss.
>>746692316Wake me up when PC and SHOTN become compatible with Poison Song.
Is it on par with or superior than the base game though? Tons of out of place, clashing art assets? Bad voice acting? Dialogue written in a style inconsistent with the original game?
I want the fans to create my dream Bethesda game (because I know actual Bethesda is too incompetent to do it right). It's very simple. I just want a Elder Scrolls + Fallout crossover. Combine Magic and Science, Dragons and Deathclaws, Swords and Guns. All in one world. The story could be that Vault Scientists created a portal to Tamriel and, at the same time, Daedric gods caught wind of what they're doing and decided to have fun mixing the worlds together. My god. It would be beautiful.
>>746692316kek>>746692441Assets are great, voiced dialogue where there is any is great, written dialog and general narrative is highly dependent on the region.
>>746692316The only place I give a fuck about is Solstheim, and I’ve seen it.
>>746692637That sounds great, anon, but unfortunately we here at the Tamriel Rebuilt team do NOT, as a rule, implement any questlines outside of Factions. Hoooowever, you are welcome to come and join us! Maybe your ideas can be put to use in the Soul Cairn region.
>He has never played Myar AranathAnd you call yourself a Morrowind fan?
>>746692637that's just Arcanum
>>746692316The Mage Guild quest for TR are kino
>>746692927OH MY SCIENCEA DIMLY-LIT STORM ATRONACHi'm havcing so much fuckin gender euphoria right now
>>746693003Ironic mentally ill posters are just as annoying as real mentally ill posters even though I agree with you
>>746692637You must be 18 to post here.
>>746693136Where the fuck am I supposed to get 17 more people?
Last time on /mwg/: >>746645378News:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgQ4hM8gnRAResources:https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Gender_and_Sexual_Diversityhttps://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-K2rUP86M
>>746693075Sorry I just really fucking hate when people post screenshots with 0 brightnessAnyway, can we talk about more than just Tamriel Rebuilt? I mean that literally as in, given all the shitposting these past few days, DO we need an alternative? Is it even possible? Because D E S U I am starting to feel like casual modders shouldn't even bother and as someone who actually likes Tamriel Rebuilt and Project Tamriel and all the other crap I want to try doing it too but WHO would even play my mod? Probably fuckin no one.
So what actually sparked the sperg to freak out over Morrowind? Did Kirkbride fuck his fat goth girl or something?
If they're not going to update PT anytime soon, just tell us, I have some games I'd like to play
>>746693280motherfucker look like a divorce librarian
>no mage guild storyline where you meet and interact with a mage guild member conspiracy theorist who believes magic isn't real and is superstition and claims to have proof of a greater mage guild plot to make civilians think magic is real to hold power and influencewhy even live
>>746693774I wish I could look through the internet and see what kind of person that guy is. His sperg-outs were pretty funny but he must be mentally ill.
>>746692316Why are you posting an ancient map
So, what are they working on now?I want some Redoran content.
>>746694520WBM is out first but Redoran is being worked on at the same time and supposedly they're pretty far along with both.
>>746694520no, the final Hlaalu update is next, and finally Redoran content.
>>746694601I have a very strong feeling that the next release will be out within six months, so I'm holding off on starting a new character.
Can you join House Dres?
>>746694392because this thread is made by the schizo and he used one of the first image he found off google
>>746694747Why would you want to side with a racist pro-slavery fascist organization that is objectively evil?
>>746693280/tesg/ doesn't need 2 generals at the same time
>>746694830It's called roleplaying. I don't always self-insert.
>>746694747No, anon, cool factions not allowed. But you can play the devs' OC donut factions instead.
>>746695032Wait a minute, the TR guys aren't tumblr fags are they?
>>746694520>>746694601The Hlaalu update is planned to have a new Redoran questline (there are 2 already in Ald Iuval and Ald Marak)
>>746695085What does being "tumblr" mean? Oh wait you're asking in bad faith so don't bother replying.
TAMRUH
>>746695127If that's what you think then why did you reply to me you sarcastic little bitch?
>>746695119do you know what town? Bodrum?
>>746692316>that map>>746693424
>>746694830All the houses support slavery
>>746695234Yes but honestly they should delay WBM to include the Redoran territories too, which would be the cities of Veranis and Silgrad.
>>746692316TR keeps getting popular thanks to Bethesda doing nothing with TES6
>>746695270honestly they should balkanize into smaller teams, coordinate just enough, but ultimately have separate teams for each fac and regionb/c as it stands, there's way too much "reworking"
>>746695270WBM is already huge and way more complete
>>746692316is the normal game like main and guild quests still in it or does it replace them?
>>746695354not replaced at all
>>746695329This is what you would get
>>746695354As far as I know you could install TR and then play the whole game just like usual and never know the difference unless you leave Vvardenfell.
>>746695351>half redoes>half shit that's already been available in previews for yearsThe only thing new in that expansion is Kragenmoor. Lame. They should include Veranis and Silgrad even if it takes until 2028.
>>746694749>>746694184Is the schizo in the room with you right now? lelI just got my power back on so I haven't seen the scuttlebutt. Did some Twitch streamer get butthurt about how "tough" Morrowind is and shit up the board?
>>746695432What happens here?
>>746695432Sorry I don't know what "OldTR" is. Did they actually finish it and just scrap it?
After 20+ years we can play morrowind in morrowind. Crazy
>>746695501When the project started in the 2000s they had no coordination or standards so everyone just made their own piece of land and this is what it looked when stitched together
>>746695452Nah that's dumb. WBM adds a big new area + finishes off Hlaalu. Rework stuff is just exteriors, it looks like a lot on the map but it's way less than what was done for PS. Plus at current rate it's gonna be WBM 2027 and Silgrad 2028 anyway.
>>746692316Why do you spam this AI slop question? What is the purpose?
>>746695497Reluran, a Hlaalu wild west outpost town
>>746695459no it's some faggot who's been samefagging hard about his hatred of tamriel rebuilt. He makes threads for us so whatever.
>>746695638WBM as it stands is even more boring an expansion than PS. We've already seen Hlaalu content with Narsis. The playerbase wants to see House Redoran.
>>746695608Oh. Okay, well what I'm proposing is that they should balkanize into smaller teams, and coordinate just enough but ultimately have separate teams for each faction and region.
>>746695806Why change when they have a structure that works and has consistent annual releases?
>>746695806You would still end up with inconsistenty, autistic conflicts and volunteers don't want to work on exactly one region and nothing else, also you lose experienced devs (the guy who made Narsis will also make Almalexia because he has experience with big cities)
>>746695695Nice Fallout power armor
>>746695762I disagree, we're getting the full breadth of the mushroom forest, along with most of a new region and a bigger slice of the Velothi mountains.On top of that we get two sizable new settlements and a redone Armun Ashlands.A lot more variety and content. It won't have the neutered questlines like Indoril because this will be a final house release and not a first.
>>746694747>>746694830can I link Discord here so I can do my favorite bot commands?!slavery
>>746692316Damn, I thought this was a mod for Skyrim. I respect their efforts but I'm not playing such an outdated game.
>>746696089don't worry, the Skyrim version of TR (Beyond Skyrim) is taking way longer to be made
>>746696089Skyrim released in 2011, before most posters here were even born.
>>746695924>>746695920Oh. I guess that makes sense. Aren't they still "hiring" though? If their dev team is already solid they should just close the forums to all of the retarded newfags.
>>746696190If you're just going to argue in bad faith then there's no point engaging with you further.
>>746696040>>746696293
>>746696293Slavery is worse.
Hows the TR Hlallu questline?
Very nice. Now let's see the gameplay.
>>746696492Mods fix this.
>>746696545not being a fucking retard fixes this
>>746696492Morrowind's combat is awful but it's the best of all the TES games
>>746696492>0 stamina>5 points in blunt weapons>just standing there>spamming attacks
>>746696312I'm not arguing in bad faith and am mystified at what your problem is.
>>746696492I would like to thank you for ants everywhere. It is hard for us to see such large images so making it smaller helps us out a lot.
>>746694940it needs with waifufags banished to /aco/
>>746696664Shhh don't raise the IQ of retards
>>746696672TR has developed a system that's faster that any other mod project or bethesda itself
>>746696027The mushroom forest is pretty it's just such a shame it's full of dogshit Hlaalu-only content. I will NEVER make a Hlaalu character.
>>746697260It has redoran and temple content too
>>746697376Cope
>>746697153>fasterOK, and that's one component of my question... I don't see how "fast" has any bearing on "good." Sounds more like "hurry up and wait" (for things to get fixed, polished, whatever). And even if speed was a factor, how is an unregulated supply of volunteers not then a delaying factor?
>>746696476Unfinished
>>746697519It's a regulated supply of volunteers, they all have to pass a showcase to actually join
>>746697376It has very little of both, is the thing. You can't really do much with it in those factions.
>>746692316I applaud the effort but at the end of the day, this is Morrowind. Morrowind sucks ass.
>>746697575It's just how the game works, the region will still get quests from all the imperial factions too
>>746697683>It's just how the game worksSure, but the point was that the area is pretty, BUT I can't engage with it in any meaningful way because of the House focused questlines. All the Redoran areas are gonna be ugly-bleak too, which sure fits Morrowind but makes them harder to really want to interact with. Like I spent a minimum of my time on Vvardenfell in the Ashlands or Molag Amur for a reason.
>>746697772The redoran living in awful areas is core to their indentity, there is a reason why they live in basements under giant bugshells
>>746692372I installed PC alongside Poison Song and I can't see any problems.
>>746697825I addressed that at the end of my post. Maybe it fits, but it doesn't make me excited to go there. The opposite problem of Oreleth, or hell, Narsis. Sure looks nice, too bad there's not much for me to do because I'm not gonna make a Hlaalu shit. That big old city is just a deadzone for me because Hlaalu sucks. Sure hope they don't make that mistake with Almalexia and the Indoril (though I personally WILL make an Indoril character.)
redoran content will be a complete snore muh honorable poor warriors living in frontiergive me dres or telvanni content
>>746697572OK, you're actually just stupid. Nevermind.
>>746697880https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Rebuilt:NarsisLook at the quest list, almost every faction gets an extensive questline in Narsis, you don't need to make a Hlaalu
>>746698018The mage's guild is also probably one of the best questlines in the mod
>They fucked up the Old Ebonheart Court Wizard QuestThey're right to remove Tarhiel, but they way they do it is so shitty.>Our last wizard died, that's all I'm saying, now tell the two in the tower about the contest>The challenges work the same until the last one>OH, ANON! OUR MASTER WAS WORKING ON SOMETHING IN SECRET THAT MIGHT HELP ME WIN!>Go to the wizards house>It's in the middle of town for some stupid reason and not in the castle itself, so I guess he commuted to work.>It's a spell to call pissed off ghosts>Now the duel doesn't involve that memorable moment where the smug high elf gets thrown miles by a weaponised Icarian Flight spell>It's just him being upset that a summoned ghost is throwing fireballs at him.I liked that quest, and now it feels rushed and like a work in progress.
>>746695762>SkywindHoly fuck, Morrowind but with Skyrim's graphics sounds good as fuck. Why doesn't the Tamriel Rebuilt dev team just shift over to developing alongside Skywind? The TR team could actually implement proper quests with dialogue trees.
>>746695432What's the problem with this image?
>>746698547Do you not see the seams or something
>>746698493That would involve tearing up decades worth of work, destroying the goodwill of the playerbase, all to put in on a slightly prettier game with far worse mechanics and for a smaller playerbase (who the fuck is interested in Skywind?).You didn't think this through at all.
>>746696672he's an autist shitter in these threads who thinks anyone who has a problem or critiques TR is literally one person
>>746698607>tearing up decades worth of workCLASSIC sunk cost fallacy thinking.>destroying the goodwill of the playerbaseThey would forgive and forget, just like everyone fandom.>all to put in on a slightly prettier game>slightlyAre you insane? It's far more immersive.>far worse mechanicsWrong. There are actual physics.>a smaller playerbase (who the fuck is interested in Skywind?)The TR fanbase would migrate over and massively boost its popularity.
What lazy bait he casts
>>746694830lol
>>746692637you forgot that you can rob caravans
>>746698808skywind has been around for more than a decade, it already has a dev team and tons of content, nearly complete as they say, yet pretty much nobody cares about it
>>746699259lmao what a fucking retard you are
>>746699259UTTERLY UNFATHOMABLY BASED
>>746699259TR did get DDOS'ed in the past actually and they seem fine
>>746699131Literally caesar's legion from tranny newslop too.
>>746699259What the mod page? Are you an idiot? That would accomplish literally nothing
>>746696089>>746697664fuck off, nigger faggots
>>746694392I became incredibly disappointed when I read they're overhauling Mephalan Vales and Akamora, which is to me the best area in the mod.
>>746699591Meanwhile they have Necrom next to it that is almost completely devoid of content and they're not gonna touch it? Bullshit.
>>746698683lol don't act like there hasn't been a schizo scrawling these threads before Posion Song even came out. He's been obvious >>746693280
>>746692441>massive modern day nuclear bomb inside a mage's guildTake a guess. This mod is just bad fan fiction
I want a mod in which I can unite the Ashland tribes and literally go to war against Morrowind mainland, turning the game sort of into Mount & Blade. Does Tamriel Rebuilt, the mod in which the devs promised players would be able to do "anything," allow for that?
>>746699348no u
>>746699624? Necrom is next after Mephalan vales. I think they've already shown off art of the new city design too
>>746699259What are you fucking retarded?
>>746699624They will after Akamora
>>746698493>>746698607>That would involve tearing up decades worth of workno, wrongThe real argument here is that Skyrim is a worse game. Another technical argument is that Skyrim shits the bed and it's impossible to create mainland alongside vvardenfel. There is no space for that, the engine can't handle it.
>>746699698>the devs promised players would be able to do "anything,"Where?
>>746699710>>746699716Well they should touch it now instead of ovehauling pointless bullshit that was already good.
>>746698493not enough zoomers were aborted
>>746699757Akamora is pretty shoddy though...It's a mangled version of the mournhold tileset.
>>746699886Good, that set is too pretty to restrict to only neverever town.
>>746699886>Indoril city uses Indoril city tilesetNoooo my loreinos but Mournhold should be speshul
>>746698808>They would forgive and forget, just like everyone fandom.no they wouldn't retard>Wrong. There are actual physics.boy I love it when I walk into my home and everything flies around the house because of the dogshit physics enginefuck off back to the skyrim waifu thread, dumb faggot
should i ignore the telvanni region given how old it is?
>>746699984It's the city of lights, the city of magicAn outlander like you wouldn't understand
>>746700013It's not really a choice you make given how little there is to do there.
>>746700032city of lights>barely any lanternscity of magic>levitation is banned
>>746700013you get this weird feeling how real scale game would be with huge areas of nothing between points of interest
>>746700107Filthy N'wah
>>746700130speaking of does anyone remember silgrad tower mod for oblivion? played it only a little bit and it feels like a fever dream to recall, outside of starting mansion I had to follow the road for 20 minutes before I encountered anything (I think it was a city), otherwise it was absolutely empty wilderness
how can I update my current total overhaul modlist from the openmw with the new tamriel rebuilt?
>>746700268it will remove bunch of mods since much of it isn't updated for TR think you need to run a command in console, page has it for sure
>>746698493Nah, Skywind has already taken 14 years to make, Tamriel Rebuilt which hass significantly more content than Morrowind would take an even more absurd amount of time to make, we're talking the meme of Morrowzoomers finally being able to play Tamriel Rebuilt by their retirement actually coming true.And that's just going over timeframe, there's lots of changes in Skywind that are just outright inferior, Vivec is like Skyrim cities it's own worldspace, from the perspective of Morrowind that can fuck off, Beyond Skyrim's added worldspaces are segregated from Skyrim, even Solsthiem is separate, it would be easy to expect Vvardenfell to be it's own worldspace separate from mainland Morrowind, sounds like ass.
>>746700107>levitation is bannedPerfect excuse for making the city separated by loading doors so development is easier and faster, and they ignore it.
>>746698493TR wouldn't release shit because skywind didn't release anything for starterlet alone how much longer would development be because of creating higher quality assets, recording VA and generally how shit it would be giving how bad skywind already looks unless you are a zoomzoommorrowind for people who hate morrowind
>>746692863Sell it to me.
I wish spears were one handed.
>>746700013>TR advertises having a massive world, significantly larger than Vvardenfell>in reality most of it is old and shit with nothing to doIt's all so tiresome.
>>746700337Because it sucks. If a player is going to spend more than an hour in a location, don't take away an ability they had from the start. But whatever I just won't buy Elder Scrolls 6
>>746700610TR adds javelins
is there any housing in TR?
>>746696190The bottleneck is asset creation, more people producing assets is always goodAre you retarded?
>>746700610https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/57640
ajira u are looking very kawaii today..
>>746694520They're doing Mephalan Vales. Undoing the work of the OGs is more important than finishing the mod.
>>746701641Unironically they're already talking about reworking bits of Narsis.
>>746701747Not exactly Narsis itself but the lore of the 7 families
>>746701747Tamriel Remade
>>746701823Nah they want to mess with the Shipal Shin region too.
>>746698242r u gonnna be ok?
>>746701747Let me guess:>tranny comes with cringe idea>gets shut down by reasonable actor>reasonable actor leaves the team due to unrelated issues >tranny sees his chance to win the "debate" 3 years later
>>746701641This is starting to annoy me and I feel it's detracting from the rest of the mod. I know there are some low effort things to change but a lot of it is arbitrary and no fun allowed.
>>746700952Depends on what you mean by housing. Are you given a house at least once during a questline? Sure. Are you able to find a real estate agent, investigate the title to see whether there are any tax or other liens, such as easements permitting adventurers/civilians right-of-way through pathways on your property, and are you able to fell trees or hire loggers for material to construct your house, build furniture, choose the painting of your choice, hire an engineer and architect for the building of your house, and basically enjoy everything there is to have with property ownership? No.
>>746702193The team has enough people and resources to work on both new lands and reworks, cancelling the reworks wouldn't speed up development in a meaningful way
>>746702419>team devotes 50% resources to new material and 50% resources to reworks>not just 100% resources to new material>"cancelling the reworks wouldn't speed up development in any meaningful wayliteral logbrain analysis
>>746702419It's more that they're fucking with some genuinely fun content. Like this anon mentioned >>746698242 they're going back and removing fun quests or just fucking with all the old stuff to put their own stamp on it. Not every area needs to be it's own unique thing, Tamriel Rebuilt is going to resemble a fucking patchwork quilt on the map by the end if the retards currently in control have their way.
>>746702605I think a balanced way of dealing with this would be to keep the better old stuff and replace the shittier aspects, but yeah, the current team do seem to be obsessed with erasing anything made before 2020 and it sometimes even comes across as a form of sabotage.
>>746702740Who's to decide what's better and what's shittier? A gaggle of trannies, that's who. There was a time when TR could keeo them in check, but that time seems to be over. It's only going to get worse now.
>>746702498They can't just order devs what to do, it depends on what people volunteer to do, it all also has to be properly planned and coordinated and turned into claims etc. >>746702605Every region in vanilla is it's own unique thing. Old TR was forced to work with only vanilla assets and no organisation. If the old stuff didn't get reworked we would never have playable indoril, unique creatures, plants, terrain for those lands
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59978Anyone tried this mod? Looks way better from the screenshots imo.
>>746702873>They can't just order devs what to do>boss, you can't tell me what to do, I decide what project I want to do on my ownt. has never worked in a professional environment.
>Install that mod mentioned yesterday that adds a Khajiit slave who wants to go to the mainland>It starts off cool>Then it gets retarded and gay>Lol I had a gem in my boot now I can afford weapons and clothing>You can tell him about the quests in Seyda Neen and the options are either act like a horrified redditor about what you saw or be a complete cunt for no reason>OMGOMGOMG THEY SELL CAKE AT THE INN!!!>It's sold by some giant pissed off Nord innkeeper who talks and looks like he's involved in endless barfights, but among all the hard Dunmer liquor he also sells this girly, fluffy cake>OHM NOM NOM let's share the cake anon!>What the fuck is happening>Take him to the Kahjiit embassy>Tee hee, I had another gem!>Gives you an emerald and gayly prances around the embassy for the rest of the gameThis feels like a tranny or a woman wrote it. What the fuck have I unleashed on my game?
>>746701894Tamriel Reworked.
>>746697883Being bored by morally upstanding people means you are the opposite.
>>746702927>discussing mods other than Tamriel RebuiltGet out.
>>746697883don't shit talk house chadoran
>>746703156Is a mod professional enviroment
>>746703172Yeah that quest is pretty terribleNo idea why a bunch of TR modlists include it
How come people always refer to the devs as "trannies"?
>>746703627reality
>>746693280What the actual fuck. Is this the dude from the "What if Skyrim was good?" video? He trooned out?
>>746703562I just wanted an organic way to fuck off to the mainland after levelling up a bit doing quests around Balmora, and now I feel like I ended up on a gay date with a manlet cat.
>>746702193They're doing it intentionally. 99% certainty.So I guess I just won't download any more expansions after Poison Song. Is there an exhaustive change log? Maybe we could preserve a few different versions.>>746703179 but not a joke
>>746703627All full time modders are autists. Half of the autists troon out.
>house REDoran>their color is redbravo kojima
>>746703983>Redguard>Red Guard >They're niggers Bravisimo Sénõr Todd
>>746702927they milenial greyed my indorils!
>>746703828there are many ways already, in balmora iirc the cat from mages guild gives you a letter after a few quests to deliver to the mainland
>>746703627Lived experience of modding and hacking communities. The higher ups are always troons. If they haven't turned yet it's only a matter of time.
>>746700850>>746700967I meant converted the spear waapon type so that everyone, including NPCs could use them single handed too.
>>746700130That's exactly like vanilla MorrowindModern tr is very unfaithful for it.
>>746692316Cringe fanfic slop. Also "Poison Song" is the lamest name I have ever heard, russians made it? They really seem to have no idea about naming convention, just look at every fanmade HoMM shit ever kek.
>>746705027Updates are named after ingame books.
>>746705027>Cringe fanfic slopwe're not talking about ESO>Also "Poison Song" is the lamest name I have ever heardit's named after the in game book, retarded lorelet https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Poison_Song
>>746700013You can find a full Savior's Hide set there
>>746705027epic fail
>>746705027What's wrong with "horn of the abyss"? Kinda agree with poison song
>>746705115>>746705130>it's named after le book!yeah so what? it still sounds like shit for an "expansion".>>746705187but enough about you
>>746705378the book directly references Gorne and house Indoril, key parts of the expansion
What set this schizo off?
>>746705378God, I wish I could have his mask. Enchanted and stuff.
>>746703758hmm..
>>746705182It was really a fun design choice to make it a full set you have to find.
>>746703758He's just trolling to trigger people. he's like that. I think. I hope.
Best map mods?
>>746695732That's just because he likes some other alternative modpack to TR there is no deeper meaning.For a minute I got so excited that romanian-fag was back. Guess he really did OD.
>>746692637This reminds me of the early 2010s when normalfags who got into the franchise through Skyrim would unironically argue that TES is Fallout in the future and the Dwemer were vault dwellers
>>746692637Dragons in Skyrim are too boring though.
>>746698493Skywind's main target audience is literally TES fans who don't like Morrowind at all but want to "experience" it because they wanna see what the racism allegory grey people from Skyrim are like (beyond Solstheim)
>>746705434That's so fucking nerdy.>QUICK MODDERS, find us a book that talks about the update content that we can use for the name of the update!Fucking huge geek alert.
>>746706574Where do you think you are?
>>746706574>That's so fucking nerdy.you're in a morrowind thread, casual nigger
>>746706574You're in a thread for a mod for a 20 year old game, retard.
>>746692316You somehow managed to make a free mod sound like a shilling job, well done.
>convince the 3 Indoril councillors to work together>Hlaalu is encroaching on our lands>preparing for a big fight to push them out>this happenswhat a letdownOrdinator quests are also kinda meh, expected more detective work or at least some dangerous opponents considering how high their requirements are.
>>746706664you didn't kill them?
>>746703318I liked the minor redoran questline they added in last year in Ald IuvalLooking forward to more.
>>746706684I reloaded and fought them to see if there was any difference and no, you just oneshot three weak NPCs and nothing else happens.A huge letdown.
>>746706725yeah it was great but Ald Marak had too much Dreugh hive diving, having Stormrider helped at least
>>746705592>I'm wearing skirts, letting my hair grow and styling it femininely, getting my nails done, buying the tranny shark plushie and making every character I play as a bikini bimbo as a joke, guys!Anon...
>>746706574Oh my god! Nerds modding a 20 year old game!? No fucking way! I thought it's be super cool chads like you, anon! I mean, since when are modders for RPG games nerds? Have you informed the gaming journalists about this breaking news?
>>746706664According to the rough plans for the Indoril faction story, the ending of it should be kino, with you not having enough votes on the council to do what you want but getting the ghosts of dead councilors to vote for you, making your opponents seethe and call you a cheater.
>>746706657I do believe that's OP's objectiveMaking it look like the mod is being shilled that is, not actually shilling it unironically
>>746706917>I think. I hope.
>>746706664>>746706769>TR devs hype up that for the first time in Morrowind history, you can join a FOURTH fucking House>major event in modding community>pumps everyone up>entire fanbase eagerly awaits being able to join House Indoril>turns out it's a shitty fucking questline>half-baked>uninspired stories>boring NPCs>nothingfuckinghappens.jpg>on top of that, plans revealed to allow House Indoril merchants to sell daedric armorTamriel Rebuilt devs are incompetent outside a a handful. The entire prestige of the mod that's been built up over the last two decades has been entirely riding on the coattails of those handful of quality devs.
>>746707140Pretty much. I think Poison Song was a bit of a fuck up compared to previous expansions, but we'll see when Wealth Beyond Measure comes out next year.
>>746707140Poison Song was a massive disappointment. I can't believe Indorils are jsut moonshining alcoholics.
>>746702927Is that supposed to be the new Roa Dyr? What the fuck did TR do to it?
>>746706917You gotta understand that Zaric's head is full of trolling, so if he isn't doing a podcast to talk about something, it's tough to say if he's trolling or not, and even that is a tough nut to crack.And for what it's worth, it's apparently his wife that styled him.
>>746707282The new chapel set is based on the Old Mournhold ruins from TR
>>746707195>>746707197I'm convinced that Poison Song was rushed out the door because the Beyond Skyrim devs begged them to put something in their show
>>746707282they improved it significantly
>>746692316alright alright i'll play iti'm warning you though if it's not good i'm gonna shitpost in your threads for eternity
>>746707390it was rushed because they set a deadline for some reason
>>746707362But the old Roa Dyr was so kino. Tell me they at least re used these tiles somewhere else?
>>746707486Almalexia/Mournhold will probably be full of that tileset
>>746707486The chapels near Almalexia will be in this style but old Roa Dyr was always meant to be a placeholder until dedicated assets were made (the dev who worked on it is still a dev)
>>746707486It's still in Akamora, but eventually that will be removed as well and the only spot with it will be Almalexia
>>746707439No you wooooon't.
>>746707462Good. TR releases should be rushed or else they'd waste time renaking no man's land INSTEAD OF GIVING US REDORAN!
>>746707547Akamora is underrated desuCan't wait for it to get ruined (Necrom too)Also shame there's no Ordinator quests in Necrom.
>>746707568sorry sister, they're going to remake Telvannis instead of Shitdookieran territory
>>746707568The moment we have Redoran stuff, I'm joining it.
>>746707547>it's still in Akamora, but eventually that will be removed as wellrip
>>746707573Necrom literally only looks good at a distance, so not much to ruin there
>>746699691Fan fiction loses all negative connotation when you look at the IP holders
Hi, I'm completely new to this mod/morrowind. Is Skyrim: Home of the Nords affiliated with Tamriel rebuilt? The name itself implies it's scope is beyond that of just Morrowind, so it would be potentially very cool to have it expand beyond just that province. Even if it would probably take a century. Especially with it going by the pre-retcon lore.It's a shame that most of the area they've built for HOTN is not contigous with Morrowind so you couldn't cobble it together.
>>746707794>Is Skyrim: Home of the Nords affiliated with Tamriel rebuilt?it's part of its sister project, "project tamriel"they have another one for the Gold Coast of Cyrodiil
>>746707794Project Tamriel and Tanriel Rebuilt share the same assets, lore and most of the devs
>>746707853So the endgame is to make them into a contigous play area? Having a quest take you to a different province or even across the whole continent would be so cool.
>>746705869get lost
>>746707759I like it.It's sovlfvl.
>>746707975No.
>>746707931>Having a quest take you to a different provincethere's a quest in Vivec that does that and gives you a roleplay reason to go therehttps://www.project-tamriel.com/viewtopic.php?t=2949
So what does this mod actually do?Yes, I get it, expands the map and whatnot, but what about quests, factions, etc?Does it all tie together with the main game?Is it all endgame stuff AFTER you fuck up Dagoth Ur?Is it during?What other plotlines are there?Is magic/item buildings/combat improved somehow or expanded?I'm genuinely curious what's there and I hope it's more than map expansion: if going to that map serves no purpose but seeing pretty scenery it kind of ends up being disappointing.
>>746708158Neat. Do they have an explanation for how an imperial prisoner can just go to Cyrodill like that?
>>746708176No main quest outside of giving you an epilogue after the main quest and Tribunal, but there are a ton of dungeons and towns to explore with their own quests and the guildhalls have their own story arcs in each region.There are a ton of new magical items to find too.
>>746707041There's a huge difference between hope and straight up lying to yourself.
>>746708402Hope is blind as they say.
>>746708176The main quest and guild quests are tied to it, if you want that is. Otherwise, they are kept separate.>>746708365Somewhat of an epilogue.
>>746708327you're not a prisoner anymore once you leave the census and exercise office in seyda neen
>>746692316When the fuck are they going to finish overhauling Almalexia
>>746705215>What's wrong with "horn of the abyss"?Not much actually. I was just being dramatic.
>>746708327no, but assuming player's character would be a bad idea given that many people play with alternate start mods or simply ignore the starting events
>>746708637Overhauling? They need to make it from the ground up. That means all the assets, terrain, the hundreds of interiors it will have, NPCs, quests, and dialogue.To answer you, maybe by 2090.
>>746708365>>746708504Any new spells/effect?As in, do the magical items end up being the same old spell effects just applied to items or are there new interactions/effects?Summons and the like comes to mind.
>>746709118https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel_Data:MWSE_Spells
>>746692372I don't understand what's taking them so long. You'd think they would've been out with poison song since the deadline was set months ago
>>746709118Oh yeah, a lot of spells, some are pretty neat, Anon there >>746709193 showed them.I really like Blink and Passwall.
>Ring of Namira>it doesn't have Reflect DamageI feel like God is laughing at me. I also feel blueballed since Skyrim's version was so shitty.
>>746707931Sorry, anon, but the Tamriel Rebuilt devs operate on a theory that quests should remain in the "zone" (region) in which the quest is found. No going off on grand adventures in TR, unfortunately.
>>746709193That actually looks cool, thanks for spoonfeeding me.
>>746709682Why lie stupid fucker? There are few that take you from OE to Firewatch, Necrom etc. Most stay in neighborhood, which is logical and organic.
>>746709682I wish. I got a quest in Narsis that made you go all the fuck away to Northern Vvardenfell AND Necrom
>>746709746npFYI, they're in the process of porting all of the spells over to openmw, so if you use that then some won't be accessible.Not sure if there's an updated list on what is and isn't in that version though
>>746709346Well shit. I haven't actually gone there though, so I'll just deactivate the mod for now.
>>746709682They add multiple quests in poison song that take you to telvannis, narsis, and vvardenfel
>Indoril is supposedly half-bakedShit. I'll just go full Temple character for now I suppose. Ordinarily I find the idea of a Temple Nerevarine stupid, but I'm not doing the main quest on this character.
>>746704636Lovecraftian things happening in the programmer community.
>>746692316I'm playing through Project Cyrodiil and I have to say, it's pretty good.
>>746709798Vehksplain pic related immediately please
>>746709985There are some interesting quests in it, but the ending falls flat.Some people claim the quests are schizo, but it's a much better experience if you just focus on one questgiver at a time. If you go back and forth between the three then you'll constantly be flipping between ideologies and it makes the system a bit odd
>>746710106>Some people claim the quests are schizoNta but isn't that just about right considering how the canon guild quests are?
>>746709985Wasn't it the same when "Andothren" was released?
>>746693280>>746705510>the autist to troon pipeline is real
>>746709998Is there a working grass mod for Cyrodiil/Skyrim?
>>746694830I understood that reference
>>746709682clearly not true since i remember getting booted off to necrom by a narsis quest at least twice
>>746707390>Tamriel Rebuilt devs can't have fucked up, it must be those dastardly Beyond Skyrim people behind the scenes!Come on now.
>>746710072Who dat?
>>746710269There has never been any questions about it, nigga. Over time, all narcissistic autists will troon out
>>746710368she's one of the top devs/moderators/admins or whatever
>>746710072Whatever it is it clearly has nothing to do with quests sending you to far away placesY'know maybe if you actually played the mod instead of just reading discord posts your posts would be a little less ridiculous
I still haven't done shit in OE as my computer couldn't run it before. Anything I should do before installing PS?
Do they want any contributors on the Skyrim/Alikr regions? What's the plans for the area?
>>746710550They always want contributors but you have to go on their pisscord
>>746709682I haven't been keeping in touch with the project, but that hasn't been their philosophy at all since like 2016. The team decided they had to integrate the rest of the province with the mainline story or something along that line. By the time it's finalized it's supposed to feel like it was part of the game all along.
>>746709798>a fewYeah... a few. A handful of examples does not make a pattern.
>>746710550I'm curious what they'll do with Stros M'kai.
>>746710550Did the High Rock people expand the scope of their first release? I have vague memories of it being just a tiny literal strip of land nex to Skyrim
>>746710269See also: Micky D
>>746709193all of these are available with OpenMW 0.51 as well
>>746710894they're literally noteven spells like necromancer's soul trap don't work in openmw
>>746710894Most of them
>>746710550>tfw those big nearly straight black lines in the east basically mean "sorry but we probably won't ever make anything beyond this point unless development miraculously speeds up to unprecedented levels"at least they don't lie to themselves unlike the beyond skyrim guys i guess
>>746711046the way that works in vanilla is a bug. can't do much about that
>>746710550... why are they spending manpower on those shitty fanfic islands to the east? Yeah, I know it's MK-approved, but it seems like this is what you would spend time on after you're done with the base continent, or the fucking moon for that matter
>>746711046>>746711103I stand corrected, most of them have been addedI know I've found blink, banish daedra, multiple new creature summons and armour/weapon resartus
>>746711046Regardless, OpenMW has far better mods in literally every other sense.
>>746711314Aren't those technically part of Morrowind? But yeah, I agree. It's crazy to work on something like that when Almalexia city is still greyed out.
>>746710550>Kvatch>an entire areawasn't that the shitty little village destroyed in Oblivion?
>>746711314It's not really in any serious development, just a side thing for some devs
>>746711459have you never played oblivion?
>>746711314Because there's a small handful of people who wanna work on them. They're not a corporation, there's no one that gives orders or ensures everyone is working on the right thing, literally everything is volunteer work done on a whim, doubly so for the Padomeic Islands shit since it's technically its own project and not a part of either Project Tamriel or Tamriel Rebuilt
>>746711459all of Oblivion's "cities" were shitty little villages
>>746710550Why are they ignoring the khajit/argonian lands? Too difficult to implement or what?
>>746711359It's still playing catchup with decades worth of mods. Can you give examples to what you're talking about or are you just trying to cause an argument or be a schizo?
>>746711551fuck furries and scalies lmao
>>746711551They aren't, it's work-in-progress
Something I've never understood about Morrowind's plot. Are you ACTUALLY the nerevarine reborn, or are you an imposter using the nerevarine myth to gather strength for your quest?
>>746711551they're focusing on white areas first
>>746711532You haven't been to Firewatch, I take it?
>>746711657You see, by doing the latter you become the former. There is no discussion.
>>746711459The best part of Oblivion is that it's being completely ignored for PT.There was a single quest in its version of Anvil I liked though, where a gang of female bandits were luring men to a cottage in the nearby forest, tricking them to get naked and then robbing them. You got a quest to play a victim and it could potentially end with you violently fucking up a bedroom full of naked bandit chicks.
>>746711597>causing an argument or be a schizoOh, you're THAT anon "every poster is the same person and it's a schizo." You're a MWSE troll too? OpenMW literally is better for new players. MWSE is for retards who want to cling to the past.
>>746711684they ruined it
>>746711551They don't have enough assets yet and they don't want to open new projects before Hammerfell and High Rock get releases
>>746711459Kvatch is very clearly presented as having been a proper city in Oblivion. You should be more surprised at Sutch and Sancre Tor being major cities since both were shitty little generic fort ruin dungeons in OblivionOf course, Oblivion was in the wrong in this case, since Sutch was shown to be anmajor city in Morrowind-era maps and Sancre Tor is a very important lore place>>746711684I have. The official position on the Padomeic Islands project is that it's part of the same overarching canon as PT/TR, but the project itself does not belong to either of them, same thing as the moon mod
>>746711736What? That makes no sense. The mechanics of someone being a literal reborn Nerevarine is far different than the mechanics of someone being an imposter.
>>746692316its just a fanfiction
>>746711841This is surface level lore, nigga. Go read a book
>>746710706I think they did, maybe twice. The main bottleneck on making any area is the assets, and since they already have a lot of assets for northeastern redguard architecture (through karthwasten and dragonstar), they decided to include more of hammerfell. I can't remember if Heldorn was going to be in it from the start or not, but it's cool, so I'm not complaining. They also added a little bit in the north, I think just because it was in a region they already had assets for and the added area didn't have any major settlements or anything that would seriously slow things.
>>746711657It's left vague for a reason, but the generally accepted answer is that the prophecy was always going to be fulfilled by SOMEONE, and it never had to be the soul of the man himself. Azura was happy to wait until someone sort of matching the description showed up and undid the Heart of Lorkhan's curse on Dagoth and the Tribunal. Maybe it really was Nerevar in a new form, maybe it was some faggot who was close enough. There's no way of actually knowing.>But the ring would kill anyone not NerevarThis is told to you by the Ashlanders who have five different versions of the prophecy and they clearly forgot and made a ton of shit up along the way. It might even be a metaphor.
>>746711927>I don't know the answerThis is what I read when I hear you crying about someone trying to discuss Morrowind in a Morrowind thread rather than rehashing or praising some Tamriel Rebuilt bullshit for the millionth time.
>>746711752Thanks for confirming you're just here to shit the place up with your obviously bad faith posts I guess.
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/59915?tab=descriptionI don't know if I want this but only for npcs since I'm 1st personfag and I can just parry instead of doing janky dodges
>>746712045>bad faithYup, it's you!
>>746711684>go to Firewatch >another museum, geat.>oh, mission for your OC DONUT race, nah I'll pass nigga>trading companies to show off your assets? Nigga this shit stale by now we done it before >a college? Oh, haft of them niggas there be scalie and furry self inserts, who could have thunk???Yeah, nigga I'm finna pass. It was fun selling scoomer to that crackhead nigga, doe
>>746712091>You're poopdickschizo!Okay.Now do you have the examples I asked for or are you going to continue shitposting and pulling the old "I'm nor crazy you are" routine?
>>746711551It just so happened that all the asset creators were drawn to High Rock and Hammerfell more than the beast race and elven provinces, and after Hammerfell and High Rock began, they set up a rule that no new projects will begin until both have had their first release. Also, Argonia was Tamriel Rebuilt's territory up until last year and would only maybe start development after TR was completely done, though that's no longer the case and now there's one guy who pumps out Argonia assets like crazy in the hopes that Hammerfell and HR will one day release something and it can finally become a proper mod. The Summerset Isles are in a similar position. Elsweyr has a lot of art, planning and worldbuilding done, but not a lot of assets, and finally Valenwood has a lot of assets but only because it borders the part of Cyrodiil in active development rather than any interest in having it be a land mod.
>>746712032By fulfilling the prophecy, it becomes true. It doesn't matter whay you think you're doing. You're Azura's bitch
>>746712153>OC DONUT raceThey were created by Michael Kirkbride himself akshually
>>746693318>Sorry I just really fucking hate when people post screenshots with 0 brightnessGame's fault for being dark as fuck
>>746712153the quey races come from PGE2, and Cathnoquey itself comes from TES4 lore, so they're MK-adjacent fanfiction, but not an ex nihilo invention by the PT/TR people
>>746712341did he create then while working at bethesda?
>>746710894>>746711046>>746711343https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/58693
>>746712474Doesn't matter
>>746712647So it's fanfiction from an author you like.
>>746712238You seem like you know about this modding scene. Is the hope that one day there will be one single download that will allow a player to spend like 5,000-10,000 hours doing every single quest (except those quests restricted because of other completed quests) and visiting every location/city/village/dungeon in the entirety of Tamriel, every single province?
>>746712676And what makes you think somebody in a thread about a fanfiction mod that actively rejects most official Bethesda material post-morrowind would care
>>746712835You sound upset, Michael.Take some more shrooms and write another fanfic about your self insert being raped to calm down.
>>746712798That's the dream of it, we will have to wait until 2090 to get all of tamriel though
>>746695180https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZbK--FCu4
>>746712882Nah, I'm just confused, why would anyone in a Tamriel Rebuilt thread value the status of working at Bethesda?
Is TR worth playing if I don't give a fuck about Hlaalu?
>>746712960cinema
>>746713089Is Balmora worth visiting if you don't give a fuck about Hlaalu?
>>746713089ye
>>746713164I have been skipping it to beeline Ald'ruhn.>>746713231I'll check it out.
>>746713670Redoran has the least amount of content in TR btw
>>746713089Absolutely
>>746713825I hate your UI
>>746713825God bless Battlespire for giving us these seducer designs
>>746713736I already expected that.
>>746699691That's perfectly in line with the setting, are you retarded
>>746707307He follows tons of troons on twitter and tries to be super friendly with them constantly even if he doesn't know them at allMy gf was kinda creeped out by it
>>746714690There's a story in there.
>>746714761Not really, you can just go look at his usual interactions and see the pattern immediately
>>746713089Hlaalu is the most fun faction though, and it's the canon House.
>>746712174Noone is gonna do your homework for you.
>>746714916I disagree>canonKwab
>>746714997BASED anon
>>746713089It's got lots of great guild questlines, though given the current releases it at times feels like imperial guilds are all the mod hasPoison Song is the first time they let you join an original non-house faction that's actually part of dunmer culture and not just some little offshoot vampire clan or the star wars drug gang
I played TR, and the biggest problem with it was there was a real feeling of a lack of overarching plot/thread to keep it all connected/tied together. Every place seemed like its own little hub with its quests connected only really within its hub. Sure, there were the occasional quest that sent you a different region, but for the most part, your Hlaalu quests in X city had their own story that was different than the Hlaalu quests in Y city; while that should be expected to SOME limited degree, there should still be a branching plotline.
>>746697876SHOTN and PC aren't updated to the latest Tamriel_Data, so a lot of actors will be missing if you play the mods with Poison Song.
>>746714859Being nice isn't a crime. I think.
>>746715336Chuds literally believe if you're nice to transfolk, it means you want to troon out.
>>746714690You have a gf who knows what Tamriel Rebuilt is?
>>746715335SHOTN yes, PC appears to be working without any errors
>>746715504Yeah, his GF is obviously a tranny who was contacted by the freak.
>>746715336>>746715404Hi Zaric, how come you never wear any of the girl clothes when you're making a video where you have to interact with other people?
>>746715504
>>746715504By extension because I like it, I guess? I doubt she'd be able to explain the difference between that and Morrowind thoughIt really doesn't have anything to do with this
>>746715548No, PC will crash when it attempts to load in any of the Daedra Monarchs since the latest Tamriel_Data changed them.
I am still baffled that Cyrodil and Skyrim started in the West. If they start Northeast/Southeast, all 3 projects could share borders by like this time next year.
>>746715336Being a "nice guy" is worst and most pathetic thing you can be.
>>746715905Well, I'm trying to dig up more on this, but okay.
>>746715832They didn't want to fuck up TR by enforcing their biome choices on the border
>>746715289It’s almost as if it’s a work in progress and once they’re done they’ll do an update to make everything connect together more clearly
>>746715289Wow, it's almost like it's an unfinished mod.
>>746716049>once they're done, they'll just redo all the questsNo, anon.. they won't.
>>746705510Yeah, once they wear the maid outfit publicly, it's over. You people have to understand that this condition is largely an exhibitionist fetish. This dude ain't trolling. He's definitely wearing panties under this.
>Decide to check out the Morrowind /v/ threads>People unironically debating OpenMW vs MWSE in 2026>People disingenuously shitting on fanmade passion projects for really no reasonJust contrarian nonsense like everything else on this board
Some people like The Next Generation, X-Files, etc. episode content like what's in Tamriel Rebuilt. Every quest being a simple little story without there being a planned, compelling story that leaves you in awe with what you absorbed. I prefer The Wire, serial television, in which every detail of every episode matters and is important in telling the whole story, plotted out in advance.
>>746699757They're narcissists who want the old work gone so they can claim TR is wholly their creation. If they do that after the whole province is completed, people will simply stop updating, so the bulldozing needs to happen now.
>>746716364The Shield mogs the Wire
>>746715289It's true but it's a sacrifice you have to make if you want to actually release content.I guess that the same way they remake old content they could also do minor quest reworks to connect the various areas better from time to time but it would probably just feel artificial.It still beats the Beyond Skyrim strategy of never releasing anything for the rest of time.
>>746716547Suck eeet
>>746716201yea>>746716458Why wouldn’t they redo the old work after the project went into abeyance for half a decade and this new invigorated team is working on it?
>>746715832This gets explained every fucking thread at this point but whateverPT and TR did not start out friendly with one another, in fact they were kinda rival claimants to the rebuilding of the Tamriel early on since TR originally wasn't technically limited to just mainland Morrowind, so to avoid conflict they felt it was necessary to start out as far away from Morrowind as possible
>>746716364>X-FilesThe monsyer of the week episodes were way better than the plot ones.
>>746716604>Wealth Beyond Measure>originally completed in 2022Surely they're not reworking content that's only a few years old.. right? I can understand the stuff from when Obama was president, but 2022 was like yesterday
>>746716743They're basically just gonna change the color of the dirt from grey to red, it's not gonna be a full remake like the Indoril areas are getting
>>746716364We can have both. Self-contained quests and recurring arcs.
>>746716743WBM is new content that's just also coming alongside minor reworks to an existing areaSpecifically, much of that area was developed haphazardly over the course of like a decade using vanilla assets so it looks kinda like ass
>>746716743Somethings wrong on that picture. That area was released by the name of "Dominions of Dust" or something.
>>746716743The land itself is from like 2009
>>746716976That was the original 2022 releaseThose maps only give titles to upcoming content, everything else is just the date that it was added to tamriel rebuilt
>>746716936>looks kinda like assHonestly, if they fucking touch Arvud I'm gonna freak. It's literally perfection. All of the quests involved are B+ at the minimum, even the MMO like Guar collecting
>>746716936TR devs and its fanbase are going to understand aesthetic fatigue real quick if they keep making every single area the COOLEST and MOST INTERESTING place they've EVER SEEN.
>>746715289why would they waste time building large overarching stories for places that aren't even fully there yet?
>>746717070If I'm remembering right Arvud is effectively untouched and it's just the biome it's in that's changing
>>746716976It's not a mistake, it's there to establish that the rework of those areas is going to be a part of the Wealth Beyond Measure expansion rather than a standalone thing
>>746717117You could walk for five minutes in vanilla and come across half a dozen entirely distinct asset sets
>>746717117>TR devs and its fanbaseEveryone except you?>making every single area the COOLEST and MOST INTERESTING place they've EVER SEENThat’s not their design philosophy
>>746717117Every biome in vanilla is unique
>>746716604All of the 2006 and 2008 Telvani areas left standing are much MUCH better then recent content. What the fuck are they doing ruining old work.
>>746717275lollmao
>>746717275were you one of the original devs of telvannis?because if so I want to tell you that telvannis is fucking dogshit
>>746717275Gr8 b8 m8
>>746714234>Tamriel succubi>They have no titsWhy.
>mfw TR fuckers start yearly updates so now i can't kill myself
>>746714916>canon house>got raped to death by the other houses as soon as the empire left morrowind lol
>Been looking forward to indoril/ordinators since I first heard of TR in like 2012 and was disappointed at the lack of Necrom content>One release isn't enough for a full playthrough revolving around that content>Multiple rework releases away from Necrom again, which will probably take around 6 yearsI live to suffer
>>746715289Does vanilla do that though? The guild halls for example. They pretty much send you off to places in the vicinity, which makes sense. TR is only there to parrot Vanilla as much as possible so it doesn't make its content stand out too much. Silver lining is that there is space for someone to come in and rework/expand on factions and add more meat to the questlines.
>>746716292>>People unironically debating OpenMW vs MWSE in 2026It's a weird schizo who likes picking fights between the two, samefags without caring how obvious it is, and responds to his own posts mostly.>People disingenuously shitting on fanmade passion projects for really no reasonThere are some fair criticisms too. Poison Song does feel rushed for the most part, even though TR itself is very good.
>>746717584Skyrim isn't canon, doe
>>746717642Poison Song was was planned to be a minor release before WBM but it scope expanded and also was plagued by an asset bottleneck for months and then they wanted to release it during the mod livestream
>>746702498How fucking stupid are you that you think "resources" is a blanket term for everything in developmentNew developments are entirely hampered by the bottleneck of asset production of basically all types, thats what slows them down most.Which means many of other development branches have very little to do while waiting on assets, ergo giving them time to touch up on things already in the game
>>746717584>>746717693There is no reason to believe once empire goes away that Hlaalu will get obliterated into nothing. They would be very overextended when push comes to shove, but that's not enough to bring the whole house down.
>>746717642>Poison Song does feel rushed for the most part, even though TR itself is very good.This. Poison Song feels rushed, overall. Though Grasping Fortune is a tough act to follow up, so PS was fighting a uphill battle from the beginning.
Can’t wait for my grandchildren to tell me what the Imperial City looks like
>>746717894>There is no reason to believe once empire goes away that Hlaalu will get obliterated into nothingBesides everyone else in Morrowind wanting to rape them
>>746717894>theres no reason to be-Sorry chud, its canon
>>746717642The criticisms are reasonable, and TR should always strive for better, but the viciousness feels unfair because poison song is still better than 90% of vanilla and 99% of the expansions. it's only mediocre compared to Grasping Fortune and Abecean Shores, and it still has some awesome highs. I was way more disappointed by Andaram and DoD; both were quite empty and the latter in particular is full of jank
Did you call the bug worshippers heretics?I was expecting some kind of twist in that questline but like there's nothing other than asking the guys about bugs and then telling the ordinator commander to purge them. I even snuck around their hive and there wasn't anything particularly damning other than them being bugfuckers and vivec fanboys
>>746716642Ok? Why does that change its a shitty design decision. I don't want a fucking ocean in the middle of my world map for the next 20s years.
>>746718314You should join the PT team as a developer to help speed up their progress then!
>>746718101everyone? You mean 2 out of 4 other great houses? >>746718120redoran rode on the fire daedra guars decked out in anu and paodomai armor skins that's cannon too
>>746718101The Hlaalu actually have the money to fund an army
>>746718282>Did you call the bug worshippers heretics?whats this from
>>746718376ordinator questline
>>746718120>and was again saved by an army led by house redoranYup, based.
>>746718356>fund an armyand whos gonna be in this army lol>everyone else on the continent busy fighting a world war>invaded by argonians>every other house saying "you are a huge faggot if you work for hlallu"
>>746718356we'll see how much money they have when the imperial-backed system of interprovincial law and trade breaks down
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>>746718353I'm cishet.
>>746692637bro just play magic the gathering
>>746718353>>746718314>20s years200 you mean? The blue line diving Colovia from the rest of Cyrodiil is their realistic aim, meaning they don't look beyond not to get mindfucked and demoralized.It's a great fucking shame that we will never get to go beyond morrowind organically and will have to click an npc and arrive half the world away.
>>746718413>Slaughters the lizard hordes>Puts the traitorous House Hlallu to the sword>Brings peace, justice, and honor back to the degenerated lands of MorrowindYup, all in a days work for the most based house of the Dunmeri
>>746717273Especially ashlands, molag Amur and dagoth Ur.
>>746718540Be the change you want to see in the world, sister!
>>746718120>>746718413>>746718575>fanfiction
>>746718430>and whos gonna be in this army lolEvery Dunmer who lives within their territory, which is presumably pretty large?
>>746718540AI will finish it after the human devs burn out.
>>746718540They have tons of plans for eastern cyrodiil, what the fuck are you talking aboutNot a single project puts up active map boundaries for new releases more than a few years out because that would be fucking retarded
>>746718672>a bunch of laborers and merchants wow what an army
>>746717883What if those development branches worked on asset production? Checkmate, atheists.
>>746718575Fuuuuuuck here I go again making a Redoran character
>>746718716haha yeah an army of mass conscripts would never be able to accomplish anything
>>746718705They specifically want to avoid pointless Nibenay discussion
>>746718705
>>746718820>redoran character with no redoran contenthumiliation ritual
>>746718823youll never guess what france had that hlallu doesnt
>>746718842>>746718859
>>746718863There's some minor Redoran content in Ald IuvalPretty good overall, but spends a bit too much time fucking around in dreugh territory for my liking.
Wake me up when someone makes a Comfy Happenings In Morrowind thread.
>>746717883>military operation needs a bridge built ASAP over a river>everyone re-tasked to complete the project>quakers need a barn built>everyone re-tasked to complete the projectIf asset production is the bottleneck, reallocate resources/volunteers to producing assets. >people don't know how!This doesn't stop anyone from learning.
>>746718842>2060done by what, a fourth generation dev team?
>>746718540This is preferable to not having distant Tamriel at all
>>746718842>>746718859Notice how this is an attack on retards and does not actually disprove what I said, which is that they have tons of plans for all of the explicitly labeled and mapped out settlements on that side of the map you're pretending doesn't exist
Would you guys want them to use AI to speed up development? It's just fan content not being commercialized
>>746719027You can't order people around in a volunteer project
>>746718925you'll never guess what the dunmer have that france didn't either
>>746719139kwama eggs?
>>746719073Oh waow plans. They had plans for fucking akavir or pyandonea too, even they explicitly didn't want to make it.
>>746719027you can't "reallocate" unpaid hobbyists to tasks they don't feel like doing, they just don't do them>what if the leadership blocks them from doing the things they DO feel like doing until the targeted stuff is done?then they lose interest in the project entirely and quit
>>746719170skooma too
>actual hl**lu shills ITT
>>746719171Well they explicitly do want to make all of Cyrodiil, hence it being called Project Cyrodiil, and why things on that map are constantly getting adjusted or reworked and massive design documents keep getting made and tweaked as ideas for it get more refined
>>746719136>>746719193You absolutely can order/assign people in a volunteer project. It happens all the time. Have you ever joined a service organization, such as Lion's Club? Rotary Club? These things happen. Anyone who wants to quit, can. But they won't be able to put their work on Tamriel Rebuilt on their resume, for example, if they do.
>>746719229Hlaalu born and raised. Wealth beyond measure, nigger.
>>746718863Suffering builds character n'wah
>>746719321your king cropped his ears because he was ashamed of being a dunmer
>>746716604If they were that worried about revamping the stuff that didn't hold up Telvanni lands or Necrom would be top priority. They're redoing Mephalan Vales because people actually liked it but they couldn't claim it.
>>746719397my king is a half breed mutt and I don't give a fuck we still get to rape and exploit the lands we got
>>746719397Sad but true, Hlaalu picked up the practice of circumcision from their Imperial handlers.
>>746719403They liked it because it's the only part of old TR with actual quests in it
>>746719321I..I kneel
why is the indoril guard armour so fugly
>>746719478and his mother is a whore who opened her legs to every one she could, even khajiit
>>746719403They're revamping Indoril, because they got the architecture set and an idea for how to handle faction quests and such. Notice how the entire east has no quests whatsoever. Akamora, a big Indoril city has imperial guild quests and that's about it.
>>746719403What? Literally the only time Mephalan Vales ever gets brought up is when people go>waow akamora sure is prettyThat's about on par with Necrom
>>746699691>you can buy the spell of levitate forever for a few gold coins>a big explosive device is "too far"
>>746719305>put their work on tamriel rebuilt on their resumeyou still don't understand. there is no extrinsic reward whatsoever for working on PT/TR. nobody is paid or given career-applicable honors. 99.95% of the people joining those voluntary organizations you mentioned are doing so for networking and status-boosting, not because they actually like picking up trash or putting flowers on graves. everyone working on PT/TR is doing it out of creative drive, which means that the senior devs simply do not have the power to entice anyone to work on anything they don't want to. worse still, they're starved for manpower and can't afford to have people quit. if a single productive asset or exterior developer quits, it is legitimately catastrophic and will hobble a project for years, maybe kill it outright
>>746719761Didn't trainwiz get hired somewhere based on his modding showcase
>>746719397he is mutilated just like hlaalu tranny fanbase!
>>746719403it's more because they're inevitably gonna have to tweak at least a few things about it due to the new Indoril set and because it's connected by land to the newer stuff
>>746719815Idk about hired but he made his own game with a team, it's a little rough around the edges but it's pretty damn good. It's like when Chris Roberts said "isnt it kind of fucked up how there's no space games like freelancer" but actually fucking went and did it instead of scamming everyone
>>746718842>>746718859>2060Seriously? Will we get the Summerset Isles in 2173?
>>746692316Mid and changed too much stuff I liked to put in stuff I do not like. I shan't update.
>>746719397>yourIsn't Helseth an adopted member of the house who had to ask to join like the Player Character does?
>>746719989His mother was the queen. What do you think?
>>746719969Like?
>>746719989he's a member of house Ra'athim which is a former Indoril turned Hl**lu house
>>746720057The Dunmer didn't have queens or kings until the Empire came along
rooting for hlallu is like unironically rooting for israel
>>746720061
>>746718430There was som random ass Telvanni warlord funding a whole army that was gonna march on the Imperial City in Oblivion
>>746720289and howd that go for him
>>746711657Bother, or neitherYou can be the latter and do the former oh the wayOr you don't actually do the prophesy at allI think it was Rolston who decided it should be vague, and good on him for it
>>746720206Yes, 120 IQ, won support of global hegemon but were able to BTFO their zealot neighbors anyways before they got that support, only part of the region that doesn't want to kill all westerners. Why wouldn't you root for them?
>>746711657>Are you ACTUALLY the nerevarine rebornwhy does it matter
>>746720518>only part of the region that doesn't want to kill all westerners
>>746720518>water is dry
This conversation reminds me, one of the Project Tamriel Hammerfell docs had a whole detailed breakdown on the differences between the way Ted Peterson writes the Elder Scrolls setting and the way other writers do. The TL;DR of the main conclusion is that Peterson is very "city-state-brained", in his view all of Tamriel is divided between feudal kingdoms based around cities that are constantly scheming and marrying each other like it's Game of Thrones. I guess that's probably why he writes Morrowind and the Great Houses as if they were some generic medieval european feudal kingdom in the PGE3
>>746720206You vastly underestimate the principle of /v/ermin, they root for Hlaalu because they can get something out of it. If rooting for Israel gave them material rewards they would bend over in a heartbeat. American politicians don't all love Israel because they're christcucked golems, some of them are just there for the perks that come with it.
>>746720331He just had a little vampire problem
>>746720518>were able to BTFO their zealot neighbors anyways before they got that supportThey were flying american jets though it's funny how jews and russians have the same thing going on where americans hand them a military and they pretend they won on their own.
>>746718842I hate how every mod is doing colovia while nibeneay never gets shit while I find niben to be way more interesting
Morrowind threads got too popular, bros.
IM NOT A BIG FAN OF THE BOSMERNOT A BIG FAN OF THE OUTLANDERS NOT A BIG FAN OF THE IMPERIALSNOT A BIG FAN OF THE REDGUARDSNOT A BIG FAN OF THE FALSE GODS
>>746720641Ted's books are notably very much focused on political intrigue over other kinds of worldbuilding compared to most other writersLike he'll do a lot of individual character drama, but specifically through the lens of backstabbing and plots and royal family dynamics
>>746720265Is he gone?
>>746719815IIRC he got a job with bethesda and also human head from it
>>746721148Worse, they got rid of his classic wizard drip.
>>746721290He has paid creation club stuff but I didn't know that they outright hired him.
>>746721148He might as well be gone
>>746721328>boring ass vanilla robes Fucking why? This nigga had drip. He whimsy
>>746721328>>746721405Is this just lost content now? What about new players who never got to play this?
>>746721441The modern TR devs have a massive hate boner for Old Ebonheart for some reason, and have been slowly gutting it over the past few years.>>746721460There's a mod on nexus that restores his old wizard drip, so there's that at least.
>>746721572>There's a mod on nexus that restores his old wizard drip, so there's that at least.piss easy to make your own too
>>746721441The Breton wearing High Rockian robes is immersion breaking. If you don't like it make your own mod.
>>746721572>There's a mod on nexus that restores his old wizard drip, so there's that at least.There's also one that makes him wear it but if he sees you he quickly changes out of it.
>>746721572OE is dogshit and should be reworked (after Telvannis) tbdesu
Was the stuff before they redid it actually good?
>>746721460Newfags get fucked as usual, should have played it already. I wouldn't be surprised if all the compliants about muh shitty empty boring ebonmeme are all from newfags mad they didn't get to play it, even though it sucks and they can just play an older version of TR to experience it or make their own mod.
>>746721914no
>>746721396I think he was one of the OG creation club people who got a lot more advantages, like it's why that's all in the AE version
We can rebuild him
>>746721997Think he came in a bit later, orignal CC stuff is all lame slop before they started allowing bigger quests/dungeons etc.
did they change his questline beyond removing the drip?
>>746692316nice
>>746721328>>746720265You mean they changed his outfit back. He didn't have star robes until Grasping Fortune
>>746722164IIRC he was part of the launch lineup but his quest thing was so big it took ages to make
>>746718756You'd end up with a load of dogshit assets?>>746719027A mod isn't a military operation, and unless it was some desperate thing no, you'd have engineers building the bridgeFucking spastic
>>746721914Not really
>>746722253they shuffled quests a bit but they mostly flow the same.The Guar pendent one was the most notable change and that was just toning it down a bit
>>746722253I never played the OE mages guild so I have no idea if these changes are good or badhttps://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/claims/old-ebonheart-mages-guild-questline-redo
>>746721914the original sundered scar was a bitter coast swamp with no new assets
>>746722393Ah that makes sense
>>746719027you underestimate how difficult making assets actually is (even for morrowind)
>>746718716Maybe you should pick up a history book you stupid faggot, top lmaohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Golden_Spurs
>>746722824french are pussies, doesn't count
>>746722824>heres a conflict that has nothing to do with the topicconsider jerking off
>>746719027thank god you are just some loser on 4chan. You'd run this project into the ground in a week if you were given any power.
Having to get iron for everything in the crafting mod is cancer.
