What class are you rolling this time? Are you excited to experience the kino vibes and get lost in the exploration of Zephras Isle? How do you think their existence will impact the story and faction dynamics going forward?
I'm hyped for the inevitable wowtard meltdown when they remember that blizzard is making this
>>747668201Huge ass chin
rolling a goodest goy, lardass racials
I am hyped to ignore and treat everyone who picks this race like shit. I wont allow anybody who plays this faggot race into my guild and I'll tell everyone in my guild to do the same. Blue fag elves don't belong in my Classic WoW.
>>747668587You say this but within a matter of weeks it will be like we were always there and you WILL bend the knee.
>>747668201I haven't touched WoW in half a decade after playing since TBC and I don't intend to start again. I wish you fun if you actually are going to play and are not just a shill, but I don't believe blizzard can be trusted with its own franchises anymore
>>747668201I think I would be more accepting of this race if it had a new model, but Blizzard cannot even be bothered to do that for a $30 race. Oh yeah they will get a new dance emote, how exciting.
>>747668201Troll Warrior
>>747668674Kill yourskelve
>>747668201
>>747668201Since we get retail transmog without restrictions I'm so excited to rp as a skyelf giga slut.
>>747668201Dwarf or orc shaman depending on what faction i go
>>747668201My only hype is hyping up normies to go bully blizzard into erasing these blue niggers and putting in high elf & forsaken elf instead.
>>747668201buy an ad
>>747668201Why do they hate WC3 so much?
>>747671082Wdym? They are updating Warcraft 3 to include Undead Paladins and Garithos as an Abomination.
>>747671082Elves are trash :)
In response to Blizzard, Square-Enix has announced a new race for Evercold.
if only they could be paladins oh wellundead ret it isnever gonna raid
>>747671631You lost Garithos elves won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVP_olx4I8
>give the skyborne race two names, one for each faction>only one factions skyborne are blue, the other factions are human skin colored>make up some bullshit about it being because of shamanistic or arcane influences for that factions skybornesalvaged it
>>747668201Forever will lose 90% of its playerbase within the first year and authentic classic+ private servers ala turtle/octo will continue doing what the community actually wants while blizzard slowly morphs this into a retail-classic abomination and the only remaining players are retail mouthbreathers in between patches. Who am I kidding, it’s already a retail-classic abomination. It was over before it even began. It is what it is. The bittersweet thing is I’m not surprised at allOh well
>>747672060Make the Alliance ones blue only just to piss off H.Elf fans even angrier.
>>747671806
>>747668201I can ignore the gay elves but the forced dragonshite UI design with no actual vanilla UI toggle tells me everything about blizzard’s intentions
>>747668201Only thing i like about the race is the pricetag Its like retard tax
>>747672552The subscription fee was already a retard tax
>>747671587>Garithos as an AbominationBased, he should be npc in forever undercity
>>747668201There should have been no new races thats the truth
Why do they keep creating these OC donuts instead of using the dozens of already existing races and cultures in the lore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hj1LrXpS1w
>>747673109Because the retail devs are making this and this hate Warcraft and are just using this as a vehicle to make their own garbage
>>747668201Priest for the absolutely easy, no stress turbo baby mode lifeNoI do not think much will change
>>747673109They hate the players.
>>747673109Because that's old crappy WARcraft. They don't like Warcraft.
>>747668587That racism, Anon. Blizzard will ban you and call the authorities.
>>747668587They added African skin colors to humans and blue fag elves so that wont be an issue.
>>747673038Okay genius then explain how Blizzard can charge an extra $30 for Forever?
>>747668587You are coping if you don't think gay shit is going to be the norm for wow foreverIt's going to be like this, forever, all gay, all the time
>>747673580They could've just put in a level boost and sold early access.
>>747673358I played Hardcore WoW as balding male troll named Transwoman. No one ever reported me and I made it to 60 without anyone complaining about my name. I don’t think blizzard will care, it is easy to be a chud on their servers as long as you aren’t too overt.
>>747668201https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeYPcI-KhIYskyborne hype,skyborne hype
>>747673628That would be a great addition! You are hired!
>>747673628>and sold early accessthey did sell early access...
>>747674063I meant a headstart to the full game, not access to a transient demo.
>>747668346>Metzen is back in charge, and lore is no longer voted by committee. Yes, for the first time in forever, I have hope
>>7476742382026 WoW players would hate 2006 Metzen>WC3>Orcs are good guys now>Humans are bad guys>Paladin is a bad guy>Alliance, Horde, and new guys unite to fight demons
>>747674238>nu-metzen
Ayo nibba we da SKY ELF NIGGAZ n shiet, we always been up here nugga you just never looked up ;^)
>>747673109Because it's new(reskin) they can sell it to you for $30.
>>747674543Oh ok so why not sell the one people actually want for $30 instead?
>>747668346Look on youtube, comments are already killing it, blizzdrones are desperate to defend it
>>747674601because if Forever gets HighElves and Retail and Classic don't, there will be literal, LITERAL, riots
>>747674761Ok now what if they took the thing they already madeand put it in those game too
>asmon likes it>towelie likes it>annie likes it>pilav likes it>maximum likes it>alexsensual likes it>rich campbell likes itYea we’re fucking bad, /v/ just being retarded.
>>747674823I think Blizzard really just wants to try hard to totally replace Classic WoW. they see it as an insult that they even needed to release it. It's a sore spot for them, it MUST conform, Classic WoW must kneel. And they did a few little things to Classic, the gender icons and the modern UI, but that's not enough, Classic must be destroyed it must be replaced.
>>747671806They are unlocking color wheels so you can create these.
>>747674823come on anon, what's easier:>reskinning an elf, calling it something else and selling itor>implementing what Retail has asked for a long time and balance it across 3 different games with 3 different metas
>>747668201HUMAN MALE blue eyes MAGE
>>747674601It’s a demoralization tactic to normalize retail shit being put into classic+. Reddit is already full of posts celebrating the sky elves as a good thing, celebrating the $30 price tag, and celebrating the fact that it makes true classic enjoyers mad. The entire point of the new race is to make it clear that forever is not for classic enjoyers, but for retail players. Forever is basically Vanilla Remix. An alternate game mode they can play in between raid patches. It is a demoralization tactic, and it’s working beautifully
>>747674939asmon has liked every single expansion announcement ever, and then shit on it afterwards
>>747675045if by "liked" you mean died of laughter when he saw Dragonflight, then sure.>>747674939/v/ is full of gacha and ubi shills who are scared players will give their money to Blizzard instead of their overlords
>>747675045>>747675172I find eceleb discussion just as disgusting as vulpera and woke shit just letting you know
>>747674939Asmongold is irrelevant and I don't know any of the rest of those people. And I also don't care about their opinions. None of them have any real respect among WoW players.I was very sad to see MadSeasonShow not really get into talking about WoW Forever. He just delivered info. The Orange Hatter is not coming back. Oxhorn. mmm.
>>747675364how can he be irrelevant if im literally watching his stream right now?
>>747675410Exactly, YOU'RE watching it. Because you love talking about Israel and nationalism or immigration or whatever worthless cause in your temporary time in this world.
>>747675410because you like fake night media plants that shill garbage to you, which explains why you also love wow forever
>>747675514>>747675485you're who is irrelevant, you insane retards
>>747674939>blizzard paid streamers to shill their garbage again
>>747675329>>747675364holy tourists.Asmon was the source of WoW meta for the longest time. He only became a political e-celeb when WoW went to shit and he made it his mission to turn women into a societal enemy.If anything Forever making him go back to WoW might actually good for everyone involved. Like sending a dragon back to his cave
I want to roll undead Pally but feel like it'll be pretty oversaturated. maybe tauren shaman
Just a taste of what WoW Forever is gonna be like: >>747675550Streamers and their simps attacking you.
>>747675597dumpy blownout irrelevant dumbfuck
>>747675565Asmongold is a Twitch Streamer. He wasn't even around when WoW still meant something and discussion about it mattered.I don't care about modern WoW.
>>747675670>Asmongold is a Twitch Streamerwhy say something easily proven false? Asmon was on youtube well before Twitch was a thing
>2026>Ogres are still not playable
>>747672396rember happi dai :(
>>747674601You must understand the mind of a goyim. The goyim may balk at paying $30 for content already in the game. Would they have paid anyways? Yes absolutely, but it would have been bad optics. So to trick the goyim, they had to toss a can of blue paint on the blood elves and give them yellow eyes so they could package them as a brand new race. This tricks the goyim, so they will donate $30 for the recolored BEs and feel good about it.
>>747675565>inv to asmon layer>inv to asmon layerKys streamer cattle.Behead all streamers. Throw all streamers in a blender. Dropkick streamers. Set streamers on fire. Etc
>>747675565>"""""holy tourists!!!!!""""">proceeds to defend e-celeb posting >proceeds to use reddit spacing
>>747668201Interesting decision for the token slut race to not be able to play as the token slut class (aka Priest).
>>747675915ironically "reddit spacing" is some dumb shit reddit tourists invented so that eceleb cocksucker is kinda right about you
>>747675895I agree, but Asmon was a WoW staple before becoming a streamer. I'm just speaking truth here.>>747675915>use reddit spacinglol tourists trying to act like he's not one
>>747675814Of course he has a youtube channel. Every Twitch Streamer does, before or after. He's a Twitch Streamer... him liking WoW Forever means nothing.It's pathetic that someone would even use that >>747674939That's what this is about. "But he also hates moder--" I don't care. I know you grew up watching streamers and you think they're very special and all this, they're not special and you need to have your own opinions.
>>747675915>proceeds to use reddit spacingtourists outing themselves never fails to make me smile
>>747675364>I was very sad to see MadSeasonShow not really get into talking about WoW Forever.he's releasing a full opinion video later
>>747676139Moot was a redditor, it will always be reddit spacing.
>>747668201Human paladin, the best combo.
>>747676063>I agree, but Asmon was a WoW staple before becoming a streamerThen we DONT agree he was always a worthless loudmouth trailer trash faggot it's too bad he didn't explode along with his dumb bitch mother when she sparky sparkied her oxygen tank.Streamers are the core cultural shift why wow and mmorpgs fundamentaly dont work anymore and there's no going back.
>>747676123I'm not even disagreeing with that.But what people know as Asmongold is not WoW Asmongold. He went to streaming and political commentary because WoW went to shit. Him going back to WoW is actually an unironic return to form.
>>747676267Yeah ok sissy, now put on your healing dress.
>747676376>Him going back to WoW is actually an unironic return to form.Wow, it's an unironic night media shill. How much do you get paid per reply?
>>747675364>Asmongold is irrelevantwait till you see thousands of retards all screaming to be invited to the Asmon layer.
>>747673109>horde: orcs, tauren, trolls, goblins, ogres>alliance: humans, dwarves, high elves, night elves, gnomes>forsaken: undead, darkfallen, blood elves, eredar (originally planned demon shapeshifter race), worgen, nagaforsaken act as a neutral 3rd faction that takes allegiance according to horde/alliance population balance. they can communicate with either side through both orcish and common tongue. in the basic case where horde and alliance roughly equal, they are free to act as secondary citizens in any horde/alliance city. this gives them access to flight paths, vendors, and city chats, but not auction houses, banks, quests, or innkeepers to set their hearthstone. they may join parties for either side to participate in dungeons and raids, and even join guilds which act as sponsors for them to become conditional citizens of that faction with full access to aforementioned previously excluded amenities. in pvp, they default as if pve flagged to both horde and alliance, but can enable pvp by temporarily declaring their allegiance to either faction. defecting against a faction causes that faction’s NPCs to become hostile. this allegiance will persist for X hours after it’s been toggled off.if the servers start to become unbalanced, then the forsaken automatically join the lower population side. this behaves as if they’ve declared allegiance to that faction indefinitely (for as long as the server balance remains in place). this forced allegiance can be overridden by guilds - a sponsorship with the now-enemy faction can allow them to maintain status as if they were still neutral.cont.
The real question isPVP, PVE or RP?
>>747676573horde doesn’t get paladins, alliance doesn’t get shamans. however, blood elf paladins and naga shaman exist which creates incentive for mixed faction raids. forsaken could act as mercenaries or wild cards in world pvp, and they make uncomfortable partnerships during world grouping since they’re capable of betrayal at any time. if they wish to gain true permanent citizenship with a particular faction, then they must hold a conditional citizenship through a guild and grind all reputations with that faction to exalted.horde purists remain ugly and happy. server balance is solved dynamically by a pretty edgelord furry monsterfucker containment faction that get to feel like special snowflakes. forsaken can eventually join horde or alliance after considerable effort if they wish. lots of opportunity for memorable player drama through pvp and sponsorships. they could recycle well-designed player models (belf, draenei, worgen) and cities (silvermoon, gilneas) but incorporating them in a way that makes sense for classic.while we’re at it, don’t do transmog. allow primary and secondary colors for armor to be custom dyed via professions. also scrap the weird troll battleground and implement the originally planned azshara one.would it work?
>>747676181And MadSeasonShow is a great example of someone who DOES have 'respect'. "Why doesn't [insert twitch streamer]"It's very simple. MadSeasonShow makes long form very good videos about World of Warcraft. He's more than a player. There's a few people like that who really get into what WoW is, why it's good, that's their "internet career". Streamers are entertainers.
>>747668201Race for 30€? Suck my dick.Anyway, undead paladin will probably be fun and broken, tanking and dps. Other options are enhancement shaman and warrior, this kind of depends. If it for example revelealed in the beta that shaman is getting some more tanking skills from a scroll or something I will be exited, warrior is always fun and works.
>>747676682It's funny because it also creates a divson in the game. This is microtransactions.Though I'm still confused if you have to pay for WoW Forever. I guess not, but then you have to pay for the blue elves, just make WoW forever a paid thing if you want.
>>747676639RPPVP is the best choice. Sadly, we were not granted this boon.
>>747676875You can still do it in regular PVP, some players will just think you are a little schizo
>>747668201Throwing fireballs through the Hall of Thanes as a Dwarf Mage would be sick but sadly they've not given mages to Dwarves. Seems to me like Dwarf mages would be the most obvious Classic+ class addition because they were planned originally. They got cut from vanilla so late that the original game manual lists them (picrel, also incidentally the same manual that lists "assembly of thanes" on its ironforge map) and even the blink ability icon is a dwarf.
>>747676573>>747676573>>747676662>>747676662I'm not saying your retarded but I will say your posts are.
>>747675364>MadSeasonShowthere's a name I haven't thought about in a while.I remember when he got buttblasted over TBC Classic and made two videos about how he was quitting WoW and was all nostalgic for the old days and how it was time to move on, then he took a break and came right back to it.
>>747676639I’m not gay so PvP
>>747677087I bet the announced next class combos are just that, dwarf mage and hunter undead.
>>747676968GOOD.
>>747676639RP, get in a RPer's guild, coordinate PvPs.server wide RP itself isn't really great given different styles
>>747668201>Orc>Warrior>Arms>pvpYeah it’s gaming time
>>747677197Go talk about your eboyfriend elsewhere.>>>/trash/
>>747676639I do not trust RP because I feels like every cute elf women are big ass dudes in disguise and I can't shake it.I mean they probably also are this in PVE and PVP but at least they are not pretending to be the gender of their character (unless it's scammers kek)
invite to asmon layer
>>747677179>your retarded
>>747675915Asmongold IS WoW. You can seethe about it all you'd like.
>>747676871Well you have to pay for the subscription, that is why I'm mad about the 30€ in the first place. Because this might mean that this will be the case for future races too and that is super gay.
>>747668201now that the dust has settled I am pretty underwhelmed tbqh and I have a feeling this will enter maintenance mode like SoD after a couple years when everyone goes back to their real characters on retail & classic
>>747677337i'm a wandering RPer without guild. I enter the world writing stories, giving characters life, paving every path I walk in this game with pure gold.
>>747677348Cope, seethe, but most importantly (and don't forget this one!) - dilate.
>>747668201Hey op you faggot shill, kill yourself, your life is a humiliation ritual
>>747677398Invite to OnlyFangs plz.Actually the only thing I'm excited about is seeing my wife NamuSpirit play this game maybe. I'm not playing it. Games aren't meant to be played anymore. Just watch others do it.
>>747677489>enigger can only mindlessly repeat stock phrases
>>747676662I've been mulling over similar thoughts in my own head. If a real classic plus were to ever exist i think fragmenting the factions even further is the way to go, and with it do an entire reputation system overhaul. Complicate it, don't simplify it.But then I stop thinking about it because there's neither the talent, the will, or the financial incentive to do any of it. It will last 3-6 months, probably see a lot of casual players who werent too grossed out and streamer cattle will briefly return which will help encourage all the retail piggies to spend 30-90 dollars and then it will crash when they fail to "horizontally scale." Every system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up otherwise it's all the same chorelist funnel to 60. Doing this and keeping the classic spirit is possible but requires singular vision and authority and just cannot materialize in the current climate, imo
LFM Deadmines, Sky Elves need not apply
>>747677635Reported.
>>747677459yea..... not sure what you're expecting in WoW RP community, but fully expect to roleplay with a goblin Samus Aran who got isekai'd
>>747677635cloud drow
>still no bodytypes>still no orc undeads>still no ogre/half ogre playable race>no high elves>no nagaI really don't know how to feel about this, on one hand it's clear that there's some neat ideas, I also like their graphical updates, but then there's this piece of shit race and it's still blizzard, holy fuck
>>747677745I don't traverse the world harboring expectations from others nor an entitlement to a mirror.
Apologize.
I hope they will add gobbos again later...I want to be a goburins....I never got why they weren't a neutral race in retail considering they are supposed to work with anyone as long they get paid.
>>747677774I don't want playable ogres. They're too big. Naga look too weird.
>>747677915goblins will be a neutral race in forever that can join either horde or alliance
>>747677964I want playable ogres, I wanna go ooga booga and i want the female ogres to go snusnu
>>747677964I don't give a shit what you do or don't want you faggot, it's a roleplaying game and all you're fucking getting is new elves all the time, which aren't even a race on their own because it's literally just 'what if human but with long ears XD', shut the fuck up you bitch
>>747674939There is a lot to like in Forever, but that doesn't invalidate that the Skyborne are a terrible addition to a Classic experience.
>>747677907Not yet.
>>747678050>muh elvesTwo wrongs don't make a right
>>747676639I want to go PvP but someone I feel like world PvP is going to be complete and utter AIDSfest for at least the first few weeks.
>>747678057can't wait to play my sky chud
Anyone wanna play with me? You have to play a healer
>>747674238Yeah, can tell by the trailer it's going to be SOOO much like it was, totally
>>747674238this skyborne horseshit is exactly what id expect from a committee making decisions on how to monetize this retail expansion slapped onto vanilla wow
>>747677907>had to kill Turtle WoW because their big Classic + announcement was less ambitious than a pservergrim
It's weird to think that for a few, this might be the final "big" MMO experience as some states are slowly moving with the end of anonymity even to play games.With what some states are doing, it's looking to be the end goal of some politicians.
>>747676676HOLY FUCKING ESL, KILL YOURSELF FOR MAKING ME READ THAT
>>747677543I think it is / was unrealistic to expect a Classic+ that actually addresses WoW core issues without completely restructuring the game. One, it isn't possible at nu-Blizzard. Two, it would alienate a large part of the actual audience for Classic+. If you think the fits that people are throwing now are bad, imagine a world where every single creative decision is simultaneously shackled to vanilla WoW and something truly different. It's a paradox, it simply wouldn't work. Everything would need to be changed on such a fundamental that it wouldn't be WoW, let alone Classic+.I'm accepting Forever for what it is. If I wanted to truly play a well-designed "forever game", I'd just go play OSRS. Paying $15-30 to try Forever for a few months and decide if I like it works fine for me.
>>747678094>not wanting to play as a big ass barbarian raceYou're gay, and your opinion is therefore irrelevant
>>747678116CHAOS is the point, anon.
>>747677543agree on complexity and needing authoritative vision, the fact that this isn’t there gives me no hope for long-term execution. fantasizing about how good we could have it is just a reminder of how bad things actually are.
this thing is going to fall on its ass and completely fail to appeal to retoilet players or nillers. it's gonna be like season of mastery and end up as a completely dead and forgotten game mode in a few years. also>still not banning bots>still no banning RMT>still not rehiring GMs
>>747675550whether a streamer plays a game doesn't matter lmao, it has to be good you retardwow forever looks ass, it looks like the worst of both worlds
>>747678259What the fuck are you even saying you retard, there's already no anonymity, you think blizzard doesn't know the name on the credit card you use to pay their sub? How retarded are you?
>"upgrade" graphics>add heavy fog everywhereWhy the fuck do current day devs love fog so much?
I need a smug high self soijak wearing a>I want ogres, but I'd never, ever, ever play oneshirt
>>747678456You can just make AI make it for you
>>747678448I mean the "give us all your fucking biometrics to go online" thing
>>747678456>Why the fuck do current day devs love fog so much?They are legitimately talentless and have no idea how to make something look good
>>747678259RealID on bnet was like 15 years ago. You can still be Gork the Gnome regardless even if there's ID laws bro, you'll need the ID for your account and that's it.
>>747678528Right, so you're going to stop using the internet?Do you even think before typing? I'm not saying what you're whining about isn't a problem, I just don't understand how that's somehow related to MMOs, who the fuck do you think isn't going to sell their soul and give them their blood samples if the alternative is no more internet? What world do you live in where people aren't going to bend over for it, including you and me and everyone else in this thread?
>>747674939>>maxifag likes itYou seriosly need to check the VOD of this absolute faggot goblin meltdown over announcement, at some point he was even cursing blizzard, only being present on the event stopped from going full raging retard.If by "liking it" you mean this absulute M+ cuck moron got into his comfortable passive aggressive stance, that'll be accurate.
>>747678456I'm a massive volumetric fog / atmospheric scattering hater, but I think it'll actually be a perfect fit for WoW... IF you can control its density to an extent.Developers love to use it to emulate a sense of scale, but they stupidly start it 10 ft. in front of the player. WoW is the kind of open world game that would actually benefit from this effect (especially with the new draw distance changes), but as always it's too intense.
>bluesky elves
>>747675364>H-HE'S IRRELEVANT this will never not be funny to read
>>747678759There's no way they are letting you control the density. At best you can turn it off but that's unlikely too
>>747668201>kinoyou're a faggot that probably can't even do MC mechanics
>>747668201aaaah! my urge to buy the collectors edition!help me anons! It sounds so good like a siren's song
Mod support? I'm going to need be to change the fucken god awful retail UI. It's got that pussy gay Disney look to it
>>747678884I don't play modern WoW, but is there a vol. fog setting in its graphics settings? I feel like WoW has always given you granular control over graphics.
>>747674939Wow, I can't believe that the people who were paid to say good things about the game said good things about the gameNow, about that $30 paywalled race that literally nobody asked for?
>>747674238>implying he isn't back solely to collect a paycheck
>>747668201the druid shapeshifting forms look fucking hideous. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make it a catbird and a bearbird? The roadrunner is okay but c'mon. I dread to see what the oomkin looks like. Just imagine all the fucking fags who roll druid are going to be running around as those blue hybrid birds. So fucking cringe.
>>747674108>I meant a headstart to the full game, not access to a transient demo.That a garbage business tactic that preys on these games having user economies and fights for global first, they should never do early access on this game again and just sell a damn 30€ version that has everything and a level boost.
>>747677907No.
>>747679316This is kinda funny
>>747671082>undead elvesBut then Sylvanas wouldn't be the most specialest ever!!!
>>747679085He came back in 2022 as a consultant for WoW.Becoming an exec late in 2023.Assuming a 2-3 year dev cycle. Forever was probably the project he kickstarted as an exec to save WoW.Otherwise why even do the reboot and not just patch retail?
>>747679129>I dread to see what the oomkin looks likeIt's retails boomkin even with classic graphicsthis is your wow forever now
>>747679671bless your heart
>>747679671There's no way it took them over a year to do this, there's barely anything new bro.
>>747674939>Yea we’re fucking badfreudian slip lol
>>7476798761,000 new quests, several new zones, every class got revamped, lighting engine remade, old zones changed
>>747679876we don't even know everything they have added but there are new zones, dungeons and raids as well as 1000+ quests
>>747680045also there's only three servers and the world pvp is going to be fun and everywhere
>>747680045>1000 new quest>kill 10 murlocks>kill 100 murlocks>kill 10000 murlocks>collect 10 rare murlock drop>collect 100 rare murlock drop>collect 10000 rare murlock drop>kill boss murlockI just came up with 7 in 1 minute.
>>747680217Not my fault you don't read quest text and only read the objective.
>>747679671>Forever was probably the project he kickstarted as an exec to save WoWhmm, then why didn't he announce it?metzen wasn't present during any of it
maybe they'll add that old moba battleground that was never finished
>>747671806even with the shitty recolors they spam, it blows that wow is the only big mmo with decent race variety, im tired of every game having just >guy>guy but tall>guy with cat ears>guy but small
>>747679316>>747679464Good thing classic is clean
>>747680339they talked about ashara crater, so it's probably in the worksit's going to suck btw
>>747679316out of place anime gm avatar is extreme 2000s internet sovl
>>747668587>"lfm RFC no skyborne">gets banned for hate speech
>>747680339The game's main dev heavily, heavily, heavily hinted that they intend to create content where that was meant to beWill it be the same concept? Who knowsWill they make it at all? Probably, otherwise why would he say it
>>747676639PVE. Im not a RP fag and too old for PVP.
>>747680419Don't argue with him, he's a lolcow spammer whinging about a dead server
>>747680496Fuck off idiot p server (poor server) shit eater
>>747675364Assmongoloid has bots shilling for him on here. It's confirmed he's also part of the same agency as Mr. Beast they're both IDF plants.
>>747674939>IMG_5373.png >Frieren>E-celeb shitAnd heres the tourist
>>747680837mr. beast isn't in night media anymore(but likely is still partnered with them)asmon is however in night media with hasan, ishowspeed, kai cenat, and caseoh, which is why he talks about them constantly and promotes their streams
>>747675364MadSeasonShow made so many videos exposing how classic was lost and pretty much moved on. But since he's a grifter he will probably come back for content.
I hope they don't just import retail creations into classic+; i.e., if they want to add uldum they should remake it from scratch rather than using the pre-existing uldum from retail.
>>747679671nigga this is giga cope and also you don't know anything about metzen. he fucking wrote retoilet. he was handling all the lore up until a few expansions ago when he retired. now they have him back and he's once again writing everything. he doesn't think wows current lore is bad and needs a soft reboot because he fucking wrote it dawg. if anything forever is probably the thing around the office you're not supposed to mention when you're in his presence. because its entire existence is basically admitting he fucked up.
>>747681029He's not a grifter he just can't let WoW go. The last unc standing.90% of players who are now over the age of 30 have long since moved on for sure.
>>747680834One reply is spam? I guess the guy who initially posted about it is also a spammer by your logic...
>>747681160Sure, stop posting about a dead server you sperg
>>747680045>1,000 new quests, several new zonesLevel cap is still 60´tho so there's no point doing all these quests
>>747681274I have.
>>747681154When you become a youtuber bound to a niche audience you are a grifter. It's in his interest to continue playing MMOs because his whole channel is built on that and the philosophy behind vanilla wow.
>>747680401People have been bitching for Blizzard to add playable Goblins, so they did. The result? 1% of players.People wanted playable Worgen, so Blizzard added them. Another 1%.People wanted Zandalari Trolls, so Blizzard added them. Less than 1%.LITERALLY the only race added that hit above 5% are Void Elves. Blizzard learned their lesson now.
>>747676573>TrollsNobody plays them.>GoblinsThis one is especially hilarious, having a whooping 1% of players.Nobody would play Ogres. A handful of people will REALLY insist they're wanted, but Blizzard learned their lesson with Goblins.
>>747681307I will do them because I enjoy the game beyond getting a numerical reward
>>747668201Not entirely sure. Probably Paladin because I've just not had much experience with Paladin at 60
>>747668587sure ya will champ
>>747680309>Starcraft, coming in 2030Metzen knows it's stupid to announce something 3-4 years out
>>747681485>Metzen knows it's stupid to announce something 3-4 years outi'm too lazy to show you all the times that's been false
>>747681307Ok? Go play era servers and keep doing your autistic speed clears every week.
>>747668201You know, as much as I dislike this donut steel race, I look at Liadrin’s face in the Midnight cinematic and I think we could’ve had it much worse.
new wc3 expac is literally just low level questing in tirisfal glades.
>>747681338Those are meaningless numbers, what do they mean?What's the percentage of players with more than a single character?What's the percentage of players that make a new character per year or per expansions?Like what the fuck does it even mean 'only 1% of pawns are of this race', what? What's the percentage of characters even being played and that have been connected to these last 5-10 years?Pointless numbers on their own.
>>747681618Fuck that, the level cap should be 999 and every level past 60 gives you a stat boost and finishing all quests in one area should give you some kind of permanent buff
>>747681704It means that out of all the people who hit max, those are the percentages. Face it, people don't like playing "ugly" characters. It's why even after all this time Blood Elves are by far the most played race.
>>747681905So true, which is why nobody played Horde in the game's initial release 20 years ago and why the game died.
>>747678116It's the opposite bro. First few weeks will be the only time it will be good.
>>747675845I rember
>>747681905It seems that you misunderstood my point, but it doesn't matter.
>>747671082I assume they were too cheap to work on two unique elf races so better to go with one oc elf race and save all the races people actually want for rainy days
>>747668201undead paladin
>>747681987I am just repeating what the stats say man. People played the original races when vanilla first came out because they didn't have a choice to NOT play a ugly race. As soon as blood elves came out a large percentage of horde players swapped to them and never went back.
>>747682197Not true. Blood elf didn't really start to explode in popularity until they buffed their racial into an AoE silence.
>>747681415it’s enough to add flavor and faction identity, you wouldn’t want orgrimmar being full of mailbox-blocking ogres anyways. a few sprinkled around here and there would be nice though.
>>747682267You vastly overestimate the amount of people who care about racials over what the character they're playing looks like. WoW has always attracted casuals who play what they like the look of best and they always were larger than the amount of players who cared about minor increases.
>>747674238You mean the guy who said he regrets calling the franchise WARcraft because its too 'aggressive'?
>>747680306>xhe is excited to read text about the very gay wedding between murloc shrimp and his husbando murloc scampii clapped! i clapped when shrimp and scampi became lawfully wedded gay murlocs in the stormwind cathedral!! praise the holy light!!! blizzard cooked!!!
>>747681338This argument is retarded. You may as well just only have humans and elves and those be the two factions then. Except then you realize if you only have "Pretty" races the overall game world is significantly worse off. But why stop at races? How bout you just cut any content that only a small percent of players engage in. You're basically thinking like a business bro Bobby Kotick type. The entire reason WoW was successful in the first place is because the original devs made stuff even if they knew it wouldn't be that popular. They still did it because they knew it gave the game more depth. Once you start reducing everything into numbers like you're doing you're on the road to ruin with something as creative as game design and fantasy world building. That type of thinking leads to games becoming more boring and samey and generic. Which means the overall player base drops, even the players that are being pandered to quit when everyone who wants to play a weird little guy leaves.
>>747673109THEY'RE BRINGING THE WAR BACK IN WARCRAFT YOU BIGOT
>>747681338The percentages are skewed by demon hunters being an elf only class.
>>747681905I understand this mindset motivating what they do in retail, but it is also a shame they're applying it to classic as well even though they really ought to be signalling good faith and appeasing fans by keeping with the spirit of classic.Going for the most rationally optimal decisions doesn't always make for the best, overall, product. It's not like adding Goblins made Cataclysm not popular
ALWAYS HAS BEENALWAYS WILL BE
>>747682536They aren't saying that they should be removed, they are saying blizzard knows what would sell. People like to play elves, elves are one of the most popular fantasy race. So put a pricetag on a elf race and rake in the cash.
>>747682536Your problem is that you're looking for a better game with sovl, blizzard is looking to maximize profits, and those elves will sell more that the latest retail expansion. So what if some people get upset, Blizzard knows that most of them will play anyway.
>>747682415>who play what they like the look of bestRight, and most players at the time weren't overly fanatical about elves like they are now. I wonder what changed......
>playing nu-wow
>>747668201Can't wait to reach Molten Core and realize the game didn't change at all whatsoever, aside from just being slightly more powerful this time around
>>747683507You do know molten core in it's original form isn't coming right? The only raids this year are the two new ones and onyxia. The next raids are also custom and then mid next year they are bringing back a modified classic raid.
i played the dungeon demo twice at blizzcon and it definitely plays like classic.
>>747683914in a good way or in a bad way?
>>747684467i would take my hands off my keyboard and auto attack because that's literally all i could do in some pulls, even with the added rotational abilities. if you overpull, you are also super fucked. aggro is still a thing (all dps had blessing of salvation and one good windfury proc was enough to pull aggro on adds). healers have to drink every other pull, etc.
>>747684602>blessings and windfurySo fucking gay. Why remove faction differences?I know why, alliance parseniggers.
I don't get it, the $30 is just for the race?
which one is better?
*Shit in the mouth of every single person in this thread*Enjoy your meal wowtards!!! Argument over
>>74768522012 years old or german?
>>7476850271 but also this doesn't matter. Barber shop is in so you don't have to autism over this shit.
>>747685220Wow , this is the post lv60 experience in one single post!
>>747684985and the starting island for that race.So yea, it's an exploration on how to monetize Forever
>>747682850Quality webm anon
>mazies falling for yet another DoA goyslop grift just like they did with SoDWoW players absolutely deserve the current state of retail, classic and classic+. I swear they are by far the most retarded and consoomer playerbase out there. even LoL faggots eventually stopped playing because of how bad the game was AND they didn't come back after riot released a classic version grift. cuckllennials just can't say "No" to daddy blizz
>>747682850Nigga are you stupid? Blood Elves were literally fabricated to attempt to even out the catastrophic population imbalance plaguing horde, because no one wanted to be an ugly freak.
>>747685504Reddit frog garbage
>put high elf in game>it cannot be a priest>released a wc3 expansion the same day the new high elf race was announcedThey truly don't give a shit
I've completely given up on blizzard a decade ago and yet they never fail to disappoint again.
>>747674939>roach king>fatfuck cuck whose fat wife cheats on him>e-whore>who>who>irrelevant>rapist
>>747674939AWR
>>747685756Did the webm trigger you tranny? You WILL lose.
>>747668587Blizzard removed the /spit emote last time when people used it for those who bought mounts. I 100% guarantee you will be getting banned if you express that you are discriminating against the blue elves in any possible way
>>747685027>purple elvesWhere do they come up with this stupid shit?
>>747686124https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LuPPSCguuw
It would be fucking funny if on pvp servers all the blue faggots got ganked all the time and guilds wouldn't let them in
>>747681307Did you forget that quests completely run dry around level 35, and you just have to power through it by spamming Scarlet Monestary?
Looks like complete and utter garbage, worse than sod, worse than turtle. Might have had half a chance if Ion was involved.
>>747685674Wait till you read all the cope in the general. They actually believe this is WoW 2 and blizzard is EoSing retail
>>747674939every single one of those will be calling it shit 2 months after launch just like they always do
>>747668201>race that had to turn to elementals to survive>exist in floating seclusion for thousands of years and generating a new race with your kin>arbitrarily join horde or alliance faction>suddenly ok with killing your kin nowhow will this work
>REEEE YOU CANT ADD OGRES NOBODY WOULD PLAY THEM >GET DOWN JOHN BLIZZARD ILL PROTECT YOU FROM SUCCESS
>>747686775To be honest resetting the story back to vanilla and making new shit from there does look like one way of doing WoW 2
>Timeline is reset>Arthas is still alive>Garrosh is still alive>Kael'thas is still alive
>>747686889The smurfs were actually split into two factions on their floating island but needed each other to stay alive. Now they are off the island so they are ready to kill the other sideWatch this actually be correct lmao
>>747687180that would be best, except they still have the same awful writers.
>>747674939>list of people who make money to play *inert game* like it.
in two months 99% of the players will paypig for the new elf race (because everybody plays elfs now)it'll explode in popularity and might even be (((fun))) and then all the shills bumping this hate thread will be crying for years about nu-blizz despite the classic team being 500% less KEK'd than the retail one.
How are healers in wow Forever?
Could introducing WoW token be the simplest way to fuck it all up?
>>747685982/spit was so fun. Just spit on randos as they pass by. Then like a minute later you get a DM:>WTF, y u spit?hock another loogie at them>I'm gonna report you
>>747687561Forever sluts for the tank.
>>747672416You can toggle UI
>>747681029it's kinda like that azamous faggot. he's been complaining about the state of wow with shitty videos for the past +3 years by now but he still plays any nu blizz slop.faggot can't just cancel his sub it's so funny
>>747674108why he rub hands like that?
>randomly kill elemental shaman for no reason
>>747687256>Blue sky elveslolLmao
>everquest legends grift is releasedthousands of retarded boomers buy it>wow forever grift it's gonna be releasedthousands of retarded bommers WILL buy it./v/ has been crying about zoomers for years but to be honest mmo junkies are the worst of this industry
>>747687778>Lava burstOh... so we're just going back to garbage retail class design? Awesome....Tell me. Do they still get to use 2handers?
>>747687793>$30 +tip for blue elves
>>747687256>Timeline is resetIt's not a reset, all of that shit still happens. This is just takes place in vanilla and tBC
>>747687663Excellent. I might just get back in for a couple of months if that's the case.
>>7476878672handers are on the trainer now not in the talent treeNo dual wielding so far as I can tellEnhance capstone talent is 25 second personal bloodlust copied from retail world pvp talent
did the mention anything about world buffs meta? i hope they remove that shit in wow f
>>747688317that was the best thing about classic. it filtered all the retarded gamer dads and gave us insane world pvp battles every week in BRM
>>747688317World buffs removed as we know them replaced with faggot campfire buffs and potions
>>747684985Yes. This is almost certainly how they're going to monetize the game going forward, with premium races. It's not a new thing for MMOs at all, many of them have done something like this in the past and don't even begin to think this is the last one we'll see in this game.
>>747676573something like this is possibly a good idea, but i don't know how it would work in practice there are a lot of things they could do to improve classic wow... but they're going to ruin it instead
>>747688436you don't need world buffs to pvp in brm, unless you are one of those bitches that only pvp when world buffed
warlock bros, give it to me straight. how bad does the class look in forever.
So am i getting this right, europe and america are playing together? how does this work with the in-game day/night cycle?
>>747674939they all say they like this shit at first, their livelihood depends on people playing and watching the game. then they switch to engage the negativity. most of them don't have real opinions
>>747688460It's more likely they will do content that gets locked behind a paywall, basically expansions without calling them expansions
>>747688038>Bloodlust: Increase a target's attack speed and cast speed by 40% and increase their movement speed by 25%. 2 minute cooldown.Fixed it. Blizzard should design based on WC3 and WC2, not based on WoW.
Can Boomkin fight for more than 30s? How about Shadowpriest?
>>747668201I want Paladin Nelf. Give me Paladin Nelf motherfuckers.
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>>747688573wbuffs were the only reason you had 100vs100 battles in brm. sure you can go and gank a few plebs there by yourself but it's not the same
>>747688765what is this a reference to?
>>747688765this is a fortnite dance
>>747688659so the game is free if i dont pay for the shitty blue elf?
>>747688834
>>747688765Looks incredibly jarring with those graphics
>>747688895wtf is this real?
>>747687867>going back to garbage retail class design this seems to be literally all they know how to do
>>747688765at least it aint gen z boss in a mini
>>747688894Yes. Paying is just for the blue retards or if you want the transmogs
>>747687726He figured out how to alter numbers
>>747681987Statistically, they didn't. The only servers in the entire world that came close to 50/50 split between Horde and Alliance were the first American RP-PVP servers. Any other type of server, or any other region it was basically 2:1 in favor of the Alliance until Blood Elves were released. PVE servers in Asia? 10:1.
>>747688460>always ever play druid>nightelf master raceyou guys can buy all the new meme races und fund my wow 2.0, thanks
>>747688765did they change how names work on forever to name+surname like ff14?
>>747688894it's $180 a year anon
>>747688970well at least i could use it to kill time in AV then
>every reveal just looks worse and worseI genuinely don't even want to play this anymore, I need to find a way to break it to my friend group that is demanding I play with them and assume I've already bought the good goy beta package
Still playing WoW Forever.Undead Rogue.
>>747688834It's the Charleston.The male variant is the Twist, pretty cool>>747689047They did, [first name] [last name]
>tfw will never be able to play effemenate fruit eating ogre with a little sun umbrellawhy live
>>747689047just for the rp realm
>the actually good version of wow classic going to take another hit for a little while until the new retail lite dies again but i'll also be playing forever for a bit lol, it's going to be fun to see how much it manages to suck and be retarded at least
>>747689164>male varient of the twistbullshit, it's some zoomer dance
>>747688626EU is a different client.Realmless WoW is just fancy sharding.
>>747688895Bro tell me this is not fucking real don't tell me this is not fcking real dude I can't right now holy shit tell me bro please
>>747688038>copied from retail world pvp talentIt's copied from Turtle actually. That's literally the capstone talent for shamans in Turtle.
I'm quietly excited. I just want to go home. New race if dogshit though.
wait, I can play this just with the subscription?
>>747688765Everything about this looks off
>>747689462would it be humanly possible they hired some of the turtle devs? or the guy who made the hardcore addon... or like some people who have proven they can do stuff like this successfully???
>>747689507yes you just dont get blue nigger elves
>>747681338Are the number of players playing them the only metric worth looking at though? Just knowing that they're in the world played by other players and the race have their own settlements and having the option even if not used is enough to be a serious pull for many to play I think. And I would argue that established races like ogres and goblins have more of that second order pull than a new asspulled elf, even if it has more actual players playing the race. If those races only draw 5% max on their own though then I would respect it more if they just didn't add any new at all. Now they actually did, so clearly deem it worthwhile.
>>747689507Yes. Only the new race costs extra.
>>747689507Yeah, only the Skelfs are 30 bucks. 60 for beta access and one month subscription. 90 for all that + Warcraft III and it's latest expac.BTW here's some possible tier sets
>>747668201this new story makes no sense. if I'm not mistaken, all the dimensions were in danger, or something. where was she all this time? and wow, CGI looks less impressive now...
>>747687887>TBC no it doesnt stop making shit up and speaking with confidence on your bullshit retard
>>747689550Well Turtle got shut down basically as soon as they revealed that horrid looking UE5 port. Now Forever has horrid looking UE5 HIRE THIS MAN-tier graphics. I'm willing to bet they shut it down either so they could just steal it. I doubt any of the Turtle Devs are actually working on this, since they wouldn't have put in the retarded blue elves, but the new dungeons look like jank crap made by volunteers and not a multi billion dollar company so who knows.
>>747673109women like pretty races and will gladly pay for them>>747674939>>alexsensual likes itdoes he really? lol
>15$ for the entire Classic+ game included in sub>30$ optional races and transmog>#NOCHANGES>#NOTMYCLASSIC+This is a shill thread for angry private server Chinese and Russian botfarms after getting told to fuck off by Blizzard.
>>747689610beta can only level up 30 and gets deleted when real game launches but you get to keep name
>>747668346It's funny how the uncs convince themselves every time they won't get raped this time while the rape factory keeps hiring more rapists.
>>747689585I don't even think they do. It's just three tiers of outfits and skins and bullshit.
>>747681338retail goblins look like nasty jewish gremlins from new jerseyno one wants to play that shit
>>747689752>he doesn't know what burning crusade iskek
>>747674939You retards are so easy to grift. They ALWAYS hype the announcement, get attention and views during the hype window, then start shitting on it when that's more popular. It's always the same cycle.
The formula was so simple, and blizzard still managed to fuck it up
>>747689449>shardingim sorry im a retard with these things but doesnt this mean it can put me together wir US players, which would still make it potentially awkward if two players have differen daytimes? i need an adult to explain this to me
>>747678456It's easy to add and when done in tasteful quantities makes the map feel much bigger, and because blizz retardedly decided to make the view distance stupidly long, they probably feel they need it.
>>747689171They actually hinted about ogres during the deep dive. Nothing's off the table.
>>747689960can you link me these same people getting hyped for Dragonflight or Midnight?I'll wait
>>747689761>but the new dungeons look like jank crap made by volunteers and not a multi billion dollar company so who knows.i didn't play sod p4, but everything all the other phases implemented looked exactly like some jank crap mod made by volunteers, like you say
>>747687867Is there any good defense of 2h? Getting a windfury proc and just killing someone instantly was always dumb as fuck. Keep 2h but then redesign how wf works.
SEX WITH ELVES
>>747689869for me the whole thing is a fun experience, i play some new version of wow with my friends, kill returning normies in bgs and stuff, get to laugh about how stupid and retarded blizzard has become, then stop playing it
>>747690106Look up "asmongold dragonflight trailer reaction" you dumb goy.
>>747688765>blue high blood elf>retoilet bouncy animations>zoomer dance>that'll be 150$ plus 30$ plus tipThey're openly mocking and humiliating their "players" AND charging them money for the experience of having shit pushed down their throats.It doesn't get any more humiliating than this yet WoW fans will ask for seconds.
>>747690206This is a fair and healthy way to look at it, "fresh wow thing, fresh wow things are fun, nublizz will probably make it gay and retarded, but I'll have fun with it"
>>747668346>>747689869>>747690206I mean I look at it this wayIt's a new release that purports to be doing many things I wantI'll try itIf it's any good I'll continue playingIf it's not I'll drop itIt's not a big dramatic thing
>>747690302thanks chat gpt, you always are there for me
>>747690042Sharding is the tech they use in Retail to separate players based on quest completion and combat over/underpopulated zones. "Layers" are another term for it but basically you have multiple instances of the world layered over the top of each other. This is all the Realmless game will be, but with more layers and no servers.At best, you'll have non-Enlgish speakers quarantined away from you easier since the tech will also segregate based on language preference as well.No, you will not play with Americans.
>>747690078I wonder if this is the type of game one should sit out for a bit, like osrs wherel the backlash is immense and they implement community driven patches and then slowly make it more decent until it's good and then I can return to it in a year with mostly dead servers and finally level my ogre magi.
>>747690278It's a dance from the 1920's; And they ported over all the classic/SD animations to HD models for this version.
>>747671082It doesn't have to be undead elves, just make Nathanos style undead.
>>747689047Yea since it's gonna be a mega server, otherwise everyone would have to be named Llornnaë and shit like that.
Warrior or shadow priest most likely. Not sure which race since I don't know if i'll be alliance or horde.
>creating systems to cater to alt-oholics Retail minus
human male bald ret paladin
so I could barely run turtle wow on my potato laptop and it used an old as fuck client iirc. considering this is using retail engine afaik and they added a fuckton of grpahical shit, this will be much more demanding even with most things turned off and using old graphics settings, right?
>>747671082same reason AI shills hate artists
>>747690278Yeah, who ever would have thought about adding something as lore breaking as blue skinned high elves?
>>747690485truke
>>747681338people have wanted ogres since like 2006.I have also wanted the broken draeni since i heard draeni were going to be in tbc then found out they were disney draeni.
>>747690484How the fuck could you barely run turtle? The old WoW client uses less resources than a modern internet browser.
>>747690365If they osrsified wow I'd be willing to forgive blue elves and the 100+ "help me make a gift for my gay boyfriend" quests
here's your Duskwood
>>747690037blizz probably makes more money making retail lite luring in retail players with shiny updated graphics and cash shop paypiggies who pay for shiny new high fidelity assets than making some ideal OSRS style community driven experience with only a handful of players. Long term I think it would be more profitable and have a bigger fanbase though, but these guys think in quarterly reports.
>>747690492Night elves already exist and have been part of the lore from the start, sky elves have not, what is your point here?
>>747690632...home...
The same reaction happened to Haranir on retail and after the dust settled it ended up being one of the most badass and beautiful races because they had some insane customization niche options, turns out Blizz devs just had absolute dogshit taste.In practice it's gonna be high elves and nobody will pick blue. Honestly if they were not blue in the video it would be the most hyped thing about this announcement and everyone would go crazy "omg we have high elves".
The sky elves being new isn't the problem, the problem is their tone and faction neutrality. I'd be totally ok with new made up shit, but when it's clearly made by people without "it" I don't want it.
>>747690492>i am merely pretending to be a subhuman subfauna subflora tier retard who doesnt understand anything on purpose
>>747690632wWOoOOOooWww sOo sPOokY!!!I can't wait to get ambushed by Mor'Ladim that now does zero damage.
>>747690632just like my pentium 3 back in the day
>>747690632I hope I don't run into Stitches
>>747690553Clearly it didn't. I dunno, it's a real piece of junk what can I say.
>>747690632it looks good, only problem is that it will rape my gpu and I have a 5k2k monitor so they need to figure out upscaling instead of fsr1
>>747690828I'm fairly certain my fridge is a better computer.
>>747689610Why do hunter sets always have to look so bad?
not only blue blood elves pander to the absolute bottom of the barrel sub 80 iq troon faggots, they also make the faction balance even worse by giving alliance another "pretty" race
>>747690734I haven't seen a single person play haranir as haranir, but they are useful for a lot of weird niche rp like half-orcs. I haven't seen vampire man like that before, but it works.Most of the newer races are ok but blizz feels the need to add 30 optional "make your character fuck ugly and retarded" options with at least 8 of them turned on for every single npc of the race.
>>747690632>>747690763>those one million videos sucking off the story of this placeIt was cool to get some gothic atmosphere but guys...can we stop. It was rather basic and not that special. That giant fetch quest which gave you a green sword in the end too, just not great.
>>747689610These look like MOP sets. Not bad, but very not classic.
>>747690828Holy shit brother your situation is dire. My 2020s phone has better specs than this.
>>747668201the designated shill general
>>747690632
>>747690809It's 100% going to have level 60 guards in Darkshire and along the road and one of those can solo him.Do not expect any kind of friction from nuwow.
I hope the next race they add is a furry race so my furry friend will play, I think they are freaks but I would like them to play. I'm sorry.
I think the shills are starting to get to me bros... I might play it
>>747689610looks like retail models
>>747691062
>pay 30 bucks for blue reskinned blood elves so you can go and do quests for NPCs that will deliver a soliloquy about how much they love their gay husbandhow did anyone think that a classic+ developed by nu blizzard wouldn't be completely pozzed?>no servers>transmog>QoL reward system that gives you conveniences like no class reagents>more QoL rewards coming in the future
>>747691105Tauren have always been there.
>>747691132this is ass
>>747691135I would be 30 bucks there will be a gay boyfriend quest in the skelf starting zone
>>747691180You know what I mean, he needs female worgen or the retail fox niggers.
>>747690352thanks anon, well damn i rather play with americans than french and russians
>>747690365It’s modern day blizzard owned by Microsoft anon. There’s no way they’ll listen to any community feedback unless it’s from one of their payrolled streamers telling them what their foids want.
>>747691132>just FOG my shit up, f a m
>>747691239Shit taste
>>747691132>just fog my shit upthe troglodytes at nublizzard have zero understanding of vanillathey can't comprehend its artistic direction and appealevil cannot create, only corrupt
After seeing the new fog and lighting stuff i dont even feel the need to use old models anymore
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>>747674673YouTube comments are all bots or braindead niggercattle
>>747691350Can you imagine someone with genuine creative passion applying to work at blizzard since like 2018? Anyone with a soul is making autistic indie projects these days, the western AAA industry is just second order creatives who want to be able to say they're "in the game industry!"
>>747691381kek
I will fuck the blue elves
>>747691297Imagine trying to blame any of this shit on Microsoft. They've been this way for most of WoWs lifespan at this point you fucking goober. Blizzard are not a good company, you were fucking duped
>>747691381GEEEG
>didnt remove 5 attack limit for sweeping strikeslame>nerfed fury damage numbersunderstandable>made fury more about excess rage and execute phaseok>reworked enrage t be a raid talent so it does half the damage it used to but is % proc off your own attacks, kinda lame.>removed revenges stunpretty lame desu.>gave prot way more damage so its viable for leveling/PvPnice>let prot warriors use charge in defensive stanceunless you can do it in combat you could do that with a macro anyways.,>made it so slam for arms doesnt interrupt auto attacksprobably the most interesting thing they did for warriors.
>>747668201guys im in love with the female tauren resto druid in my guild! she has sent me pictures of herself on discord and shes a clear 8,5/10 with cute face! But she has a boyfriend (whos not playing wow but streaming fps games all day on twitch n stuff) and i dont want to make him mad, but at the same time im so madly in love with her and she is flirting with me on PM all day long! What should i do?
>excited for Blizzard to fuck up WoW for the 6th timeWowzers!
>>747691495>it was the suits!>it was microsoft!>they didn't have enough time!or maybe the devs are actually making what they want and they're gay and retarded?
>>747691534they also added victory rush too so it's full on retoilet warrior
>no new specs>no ranged rogue or warriorlame
you retards realize that we can tell when you talk like shillsyou faggots all post like redditors fishing for upvoted
Are Turtletrannies seething?
>>747691617watch them also add second wind and spell reflect because brown babies are slightly inconvenienced by kiting
I'd be pumped if it wasn't for the stupid blue elves.I assume they have bigger payout content down the road for Belves and Helves so don't want to blow their loads too soon, so they invented some rando elf for launch just to appease normies, women, and Asia, since that's who plays elves.
If the worst part of this monkey paw deal is a race of blue faggot elves and a cosmetic shop I think we came out alright.
>>747691810how about megaservers
>>747687314>team vanilla impreg vs team anal rape
This is the default, in-engine DPS meter. Meaning potentially no more API to log raids.
>>74769189based hope they block more mods than retail did
>>747691810how about the transmog toggle first being disabled for pride month mogs and then removed a couple months later because no one complained and hiding peoples troonmogs is bigoted and hateful?
>>747691810>phasing and sharding>no servers>retoilet (((qol))) and class changes>no more 40 man raids>lazy retoilet assets and content ported all over
>>747691534>>made it so slam for arms doesnt interrupt auto attacksIt would honestly be better if slam wasnt a garbage rotation filler and it was just an aoe skill shot that stunned anyone it catches and does huge damage
>>747676639PVP servers will become 97-3 pop in two weeks so it doesn't matter.
>>747691135>Can reach a level of mastery that you no longer need random seeds to cast entangling rootsNOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS ISNT CLASSIC IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE NOOOO NO NO NO NO
For the Horde!OwOUwU
>>747668201I started playing wow with Wow Ascension but I only played for a few days before blizzard took it down.There's still a WoW void in my heartIs forever a good place to start?How is classic?
>>747691810>If the worst part of this monkey paw deal is a race of blue faggot elvesAre you dumb? SoD did bigger and more interesting things without feeling the need to add some donut steel retail race.
>>747692063>pvp server(S)he doesn't know
>>747692165Alliance carebears ruined the game for everyone including themselves by avoiding pvp servers
>>747668346Grumpy pserver trannies malding
Did Ion see the success of classic/SoD and steal this project from Aggrend? This has the stench of Retail about it
so if there are no more servers then where will you find a community? how will communities form? orbiting twitch streamers? discord servers?
>>747692219Historically it went back and forth between Alliance domination and Horde domination until Legion when everyone race changed to Horde for raiding and it never really recovered. Most high end PVP names were Alliance for the most part due to racials.
>>7476922681) discord integration i think is in the game2) the realmless game will have tech to basically softlock people into localized realm-like communities invisibly based on your region, language settings, ping, etc and then additionally by your guild choice and other factors. There isn't really NO realm, it's just the game moving you around as it needs to on the back end.
>>747692268>community>in a modern "mmo"lol, lmao eventhat hasn't been a thing for over decade thanks to all the "qol" additions
>>747668201>Zephras Isle>look inside>it's recolored Teldrassilepic
>>747692457Aggrand went on a big rant on stage on how QoL is bad and eats away at the game for like 20 minutes dude
>>747668201I’m rolling undead paladin to own the chuds and show that forsaken can be good guys too.
>>747692645The Forsaken were always the good guys. Humans opened the dark portal. Humans formed the cult of the damned. Total Human Death is the only logical conclusion.
>>747688765>jeet head wobble
>>747691715Im playing it so....
>>747692563the faggot can rant all he wantretoilet- is already confirmed to have a bunch of community-raping changes and more are to come
>>747668587Body type A/B is still in character creation and you've stated your intent to still give blizzard money, don't pretend you have any standards or principles you consooming faggot
>>747668201>retail lore goes to shit from a million retcons and addictions over the years>instantly do the same to their fresh startRetail numbers are so bad they need too canniblize classic to make it into the new retail. Enjoy your corporate disney slop
>>747690114>but everything all the other phases implemented looked exactly like some jank crap mod made by volunteers, like you sayThat's true I guess
>>747692828*cannibalizes you*
complete trash, just play retail at this point retards
>>747693035No keep crying
>>747692937care to list some?
>>747693035definitely wont do that
>>747691132>>747691308>>747691350>>747691458Meanwhile, in Retail....Why wasn't this level of effort put into Forever?
>>747691718You've never played a warr in classic and it shows
>>747692063the only reason classic pvp servers flopped so hard so fast was because blizzard went full retard and added in honor system before battlegrounds 1 month after release. I felt like nostrodamous saying what was going to happen and having everyone tell me i was wrong then seeing it happen in real time with all the dummies going>wow never could have seen this happen!way to boost my ego blizz
>>747693205he's right though they are adding those spells to warrior lol
>>747693114>sharding>phasing>no servers>scaled down raids>powercrept classes vs weak content>exp boosts
>>747693035retail levelling is complete ass. Actually now that i think of it my biggest worry will be them adding too many movie tier quests that make use of phasing like retail.
>>747669980Abso-FUCKING-lutely based.
>>747691718I mean priest is basically wotlk priest minus a few abilties. If you can get over the fact that the classes really are retail- it looks pretty good though.
>>747693205i did play plenty of warrior since it's the most domineering class in vanilla yet most retards who play it are always crying about something
>Undead priest>Fear ward>Nerfed WotF>One time life tap>Cannibalize>You can now spam Holy Nova almost for free>Scale stupidly hard by just gearing with spiritYep, I think we are back.
>>747693363fear ward has 3 minute cooldown however.I wonder what dwarf priests get now that fear ward is universal.
>>747681415I have badly wanted to play ogre for years. Why wouldn't dudes want to play the biggest strongest dumbest grug race?
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>>747693449Modern players are largely AGP coomers.
>>747693449Chinese associate ogres with the Uyghurs.
Classic+ more like Retail- LMFAO
Skyborne female alliance.mage for racial.I hope they do sexy flips like NElfs
>>747693542Based
>>747693508>buffing starshards damagenelf shadow priests will be so cool
>>747693542>and then everyone clapped
Gnomes seem pretty cracked for most classesbut I don't want to play a damn gnome...
If they remove the blue elves I might look into what else the game has to offer
No server ticks so no tick drinking or energy ticks
Okay new race looks lame af especially because its a fucking elf when we all know BElfs ruined horde. Anyways the new zones on the OG continents in classic THAT and the new dungeons peaks my interest. No way they'll feel like classic dungeons or zones sadly but that wouldve been possible
>>747693270sharding is a good thingphasing is a good thingno servers is a good thingthe original 40 man raids are still there and still 40 manunderperforming classes and specs getting a boost and being made useful to expand the meta while not homogenizing it is a good thing exp boosts are not a retail thinganother era brainlet raped and gaped
>>747691064This is just retardedRetail WoW is harder than classic ever wasThe biggest complaint this season is the raid is too hard on normal and heroic
>>747693743They gave them the strongest racials so people would actually play them kek
Undead paladins, random pacifist gay elfs in a world that's full of war
>log into Classic Era>guild has announced theyre taking a break>everyone in trade chat is talking about Forever talent changes and what class theyre gonna roll in ForeverSo did this kill Era, Anniversary and Retail and one fell swoop? Pretty impressive if so
The blue elves have their own private city zone and flying boats that go all over the world of azeroth. They won...
The only positive thing about this shit is that the tbc "lore" never happened, but I'm sure they will manage to vomit something even worse.
wtf is this passive...the horde elves get to move 10% faster for 10 mins but this seems way better
>>747668201i’m rolling blue elf just to ragebait all the haters. almost everything we saw so far seems amazing and it feels like 80% of the community solely focuses on hating blizzard for blue elfs. this is the reason we dont have ingame GMs anymore, y‘all are just miserable.
>>747693827Nice bait you nigger. 99.99% of retail content is comically braindead and you just cannot die at all.>b-but muh mythic spastic ddr dancesNobody cares and it's a very small fraction of overall content.
>sharding and phasing are goodbait used to be believable
>>747694135He's right. Retail is way harder than Classic despite being totally braindead.
>>747682078just reuse the wretched models
>>747692118one of the things people applauded classic for was those little roleplaying aspects, cause they make the world feel richer and more realwhen that sort of thing went away bit by bit over the years, people felt that WoW had lost its RPG vibenow they're doing it again with classic plusit's like introducing LFG and similar thingswhy have a classic plus if you just go down the same path againand I knew that nu blizzard would be retarded enough to do it, cause they genuinely do not even get what was actually good about classicthey keep repeating the points like "community is important" but then get rid of serversthey highlight how important it is for players to communicate and then think they need to introduce something like campsites where people can share buffs and hopefully they will strike up a conversation, but they fail to understand that original classic never needed that sort of thingpeople gave others buffs cause they wanted to give others buffsthey talked because they wanted to, and because they had to communicate to coordinate
>>747693169sorry we can only make classic look UE5fiedplease understand
>>747694135this is something retoilets can't cope with, i don't believe anyone even plays retail but those who do are playing to >walk forward/aoe in all pve scenarios >look a way via transmog >mount
They have the same exact intro story as blood elves as well. "They must find a new source of magic..." Like bruh can they come up anything else?
>>747691132You guys have never been outside, this is what is looks like here in china
>>747694376LFG in FWoW doesn't teleport you to a dungeon retard.Its literally just a notice board to get a group together without spamming /world or /LFG for 2 hours
>>747693858All i'd ever play is gnome and dwarf if they were on Horde. Instead i usually play undead.This is why I'd love a completely fucked re-factioning. I don't want cross faction play but there should be an advanced betrayal system in place so i can abandon the alliance and become a pirate mercenary bastard gnome and kill alliance.They need to lean harder in faction conflict, but they won't because that requires a lot of actual, real ballbusting work that won't make them any money.
>>747694567Shut the fuck up diaperbaby gnome bitch.
>>747694627Get knifed by circus midgets, pawg boy
>>747690951It looks great; it's just Rexxar cosplay.
>>747694385>cannot die while leveling>cannot die in dungeons>normal/heroic raids are piss easy even compared to vanilla's raids after mc>all resource/threat/consumable management and logistics aspects are removed so all the difficulty comes from dodging bad and stepping into good, and since wipe recovery takes a couple minutes at best, you can just keep trying over and over and it's no wonder all content is cleared on release dayIt's grim.
>>747694376You're right, high level shaman earning the ability to cast waterwalking without fish parts is literally the same as removing reagents entirely like was done in wrath or cata totally
>>747688436>filtered parentsYeah people should stop having kids altogether especially the white people that mostly game
I hate DWARVES. EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM. REPUGNANT CREATURE RACE WORSE THAN GOBLINS
>>747694726nigger, i made money on new characters selling shit like slow fall feathers and the npc reagents work as a much needed gold sinkbet your retoilet brain cannot even comprehend basic mmo concepts like economy
>>747694694None of this is true. You get raped while leveling without gear. Because of the stat squishes, if you log into a character that used to be level 60 and go fight some mobs you'll get raped to death. As for raids, my retoilet playing friends tell me because they've basically made the final bosses of a raid drop better gear, those bosses are now mythic boss levels of difficult on heroic.I know these threads are full of turd worlders incapable of accepting this kind of info though they just get mad if told they're wrong about anything
>>747694694>make retoilet character just to see what it's like >do the dogshit tutorial island (it's really fucking bad) >at level 11 start queing for random dungeons expecting... i dunno rfc >no, it's all dungeons, level scaled, so im in who knows where from who knows what expansion with level 60s >we all move forward and aoe >walk out of dungeon manually with hearthstone on cooldown, surrounded by level 50 mobs in some bfa zone or some shit >never log in again
ANON IS A POTTY MOUTH
>>747694846And that will still occur because they haven't removed the reagent cost for any spell. Why are EU players like this? Always so mentally ill.
>>747694863it's all true and you were preemptively and completely btfod
>>747694559I didn't even know there was gonna be some kind of LFG in forever lolI used it as an example for something that players think ruined the game, so they want a version without itThe fact that it will exist in any form in the game is concerningThings usually get "improved" over time, so I wouldn't be surprised if eventually you can earn a reward like teleports to the dungeonHey, it's optional. Just don't use it.>>747694726Yeah it absolutely is. If you pick the reward, it will remove the need for reagents.
I legitimately unsubbed because of how bad forever looks, I think it finally broke me I've already been going longer and longer between logins in both retail and classic so this is really it for me I'm finally done with blizzard for good>wah no one caresI care
>>747695013I suspect the number of players who use their very limited reward on saving a few silver on Light Feathers wont be 100%.
>>747695145who cares?it still removes RP elements, makes the game worse, and goes against the spirit of classicclassic plus should just be new content added without any overhauls and changes
The one thing I am nooticing is how much mana regen shit has been announcedIt feels like you will never go oom now, which sounds boring in a way
>>747695224Roleplaying as a powerful priest who has vanquished Kel'thuzad and cleansed the Plaguelands.... but I still need a random candle to channel a basic holy spell? Yeah ok whatever man you win
i’d rather spend my money on robitussin and simulate the classic+ i want in my mind’s eye
>>747695301cause that's what you need for the spell
>>747695239That's the retoilet way. They will also end up killing threat management so everybody just mashes buttons without care just like on retoilet.
Wait so are they ruining the graphics of classic and were supposed to be excited about that?
>>747695301go play counterstrike
>>747695426yes30 dollars pls
>>747695239>nooticingunderagelearn to speak without memes every sentence
>>747691132>skyrim cathedral weathers enb
>>747695426GET FOGGED
>>747695426pay up goy
>>747695465im nooticing you are also very angry brodid you go oom?
>>747695426yes
>>747695518which word in that post indicates any emotion?
>>747695572you sound very angry manwhat's happening?could not afford the beta?
>>747693937lmao no my friend is still gonna play wow classic and never ever ever ever ever ever ever going to play forever. Me and my friends well miss him :(.
>>747695383toileters will INSIST that any time they aren't incentivized to mash buttons is an example of "bad game design" because you should never be not mashing buttons in an encounter
>>747695142can i haz your stuff?
>>747695145NTA but i will. essentially why would i wate my time on blinding powder reagents when lorewise it'd be more efficient to learn a cantrip that conjures and sprays something similar
>>747694748maybe if cost of living was the same than in the 50s or hell even the 80s white educated people would have more children than the brainlet 20 IQ biomass
>>747695650>paying for the privilege of being an unpayed testerdid you actually pay for it?lol loser
