holy fucking shit, I just finished MGS 2 is Kojima really a genius? he preducted our AIslop hallucination driven apocalypsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C31XYgr8gp0I wonder what he thinks of this era
>>748317941Because he'd speak the truth, and make you upset?
Here before the Indiacord raids this thread and calls you a luddite for being against mandatory digital ID due to billions in ad money being wasted on AI scrapers
>>748317941I think he avoids speaking on irl politics altogether, meanwhile everything he makes is extremely political, so people infer his politics from that, but imagine trying to apply it to this modern clown clusterfuck of a worldI think he decided its not worth botheringidk tho
>We have McLuhan and Debord at home
>>748317836kojima did not write any of that dialogue
>>748317941>Trump is hitler and illegal immigration is a human right
>>748317836It's a great game, and Kojima did basically predict the future. But people who do foretell such happenings don't particularly have anything interesting to say when it does actually happen. At the end of the day he's a businessman with a career on the line.>>748318004Humans Rights don't exist, it's a retarded framework created by Kant, John Locke, Rene Descartes.
>>748317836He tries to do something similar in Death Stranding 2 but it's ruined by a zesty black guy dancing in and turning the A.I. off.
>>748318157That was literally kino though
>>748318060Kek. This. What's actually predicting the future was the stuff McLuhan was writing about all the way back in the 60s. Kojima just reads philosophy and understands the concepts, he's not introducing new concepts.
>>748317836https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY
>>748317836>they still just think it's about "muh A.I."lol
>>748318438AI, at least in this form of LLMsIS LITERALLY 100% WHAT THE COLONEL IS DESCRIBING, word for wordthey take the pointless junk data and endlessly regurgitate and mix it up, and they become the new reality, everyone relies on what is basically a porta potty shitting in ur mouth with all the junk possible accumulated and its made even worse by how AIs learn off each other now it's basically his concept personified that's why it seems so prohetic
>literally
>>748317836Yes
>>748317941he is right
>>748318530Are you 15 years old? Read McLuhan or any serious media theorist if you want real insights.
>>748318626no, I don't have the time to read philosophy books
>>748317836Kojima is a visionary. Metal Gear as a franchise, predicts so much stuff. It's actually kind of incredible.>Make America Great Again!Senator Armstrong predates Trump. >Virtual Reality being used to train soldiers>Drones>The government is controlled by a secretive cabal of Jews (AI)We'll get Metal Gears eventually. It's just a matter of time before the U.S.A unveils some type of 400 foot transformer fuckin' thing that launches nukes from it's shoulders.
>>748317836he didn't predict anything, all of the things in the game were already happeningwhy do zoomers think the world didn't exist before they were born?
>personified
>>748318661Cope. No one reads because they want to get into philosophy, you just seem interested in the theme so I figure I'd point you in the right direction since Kojima is surface-level meant to be fun first.
>>748318679It is sad and kinda pathetic how kids always have to treat something they personally discovered as some earth-shattering epiphany that no one else knows about. Not to mention the implicit smugness that they were the ones smart and special enough to "discover" it in the first place. Life is hard on everyone, but it's extra hard on people this gullible and naive.
>>748317941He never said that.
>>748318668Make America great again was a Reagen thing first I'm pretty sure. The timing was funny though.
>prohetic
>I wonder what he thinks of this eraYou can literally just play his games, he's still making them. Death Stranding is about isolation and how virtual connections can help but also harm us, and a bunch of other thoughts and ideas he has about stuff.
>>748318836it's not nice to point out typos...
>>748318530You can come back when you earn your high school diploma.
>>748318874Your rite
>>748317836Find the media that said it first, which kojango inevitably copied, and laud that instead. >>748317941>Trump is hitlerI fucking wish, we'd at least get a good economy and military out of it, and less jewish bankers. Heaven.
It's really embarrassing that some motherfuckers be sucking on Kojima's dick when it's abundantly clear the man despises video games and wants to make movies so bad. True cuckolds
>>748317836Well at least you enjoyed the game and appreciated its themes and arguments. I have a friend who's my age, mid-30s, and he's a very insular and autistic weeb (probably still a virgin, we don't talk about sex around him as a courtesy) that thought this game was "boring and pretentious". A game like MGS2 can set you on the right track, for gaming and for life lessons.
>>748318815The timing was impeccable. Someone just needed to convince Trump to make a Metal Gear instead of that dumbass Space Force.Metal Gear America, fuck yeah.
>>748318981people have been saying this forever but right now he definitely has the pull to get a movie gig 'yet he sticks with making video games
>>748318983Being less cultured than a weeaboo must hurt, no wonder you're this sore.
>>748318661a lot of philosophy books are not that long and probably take as much or less time than it takes to beat a 12-15 hour single player campaign. i'm not trying to convince you to read anything, by the way. you just need way better excuses.
>>748317836Another good scene:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY
>YOOOO GANG THIS IS HELLA PROHETIC BRO!!>WHAT DID HE SEE??? >AYOOOO I HAVE THE PERFECT ISHOWSPEED REACTION GIF FOR DIS BRO>AINT NO WAAAAAYYYYY
>/v/ philosophy threadThis is gonna be fun.
>>748319268Fuck no, only /lit/ and /his/ have actually good discussion on that, /v/ just goes around the same surface-level bullshit understanding of books and authors they didn't read.
>>748319348genuine autism
>>748319348>/lit/>goodsurely you infinite jest
>>748319348>same surface-level bullshit understanding of books and authors they didn't read/lit/ in a nutshell.
>>748319381>autism is when you understand and discover new things about subject instead of just going off assumptions making snarky remarks
>>748319348>/lit/ and /his/
>>748319436we already know you're autistic, no need to show us further
Break something in your room that you love and throw it away. You will be surprised how little you actually feel about it after it's gone. Let go of your hate. Let go of your love. Let go.
>>748319146Being as bad at arguing as a woman must sting, no wonder you're still a virgin
>>748317941Kojimbo is a Japanese nationalist. He hates foreigners but he is grateful that Americans are gobbling up his brainrot.
>>748319146Your victimhood is showing.
>>748318661How many hours did you spend watching cutscenes or codecs?
>>748319609 No.
>>748318981People say this but the gameplay in his games are great, and a lot of the storytelling only makes sense because it's interactive.
>>748319609Kids at my high school used to do this. Half of them regretted it within weeks lmao.
>>748319903>the gameplay in his games are greatplease say he has been making some other games on the downlow i'm not familiar with because you can't possibly be talking about death stranding, the shit he has made for nearly a decade now
>>748318060ThisAs McLahan put it>"The medium is the message"
>>748319609What is this tranny saying?
>>748320127cut your dick off and eventually nothing matters anymore
>>748320063Didn't' play it but MGS4 and 5 are great playing games. PT is something different and not "fun" but wouldn't really work as a movie either.
>>748320127I'll attempt to translate:>I'm not smart enough to participate in this conversation but if I post a pretentious platitude, everyone will updoot me!Something along those lines.
>>748318031at least that one jeet on /pol/ gets paid by Israel for ragebaiting, jeets will defend AI free of charge.
>>748319609>Let go of your hateYou had me there>Let go of your loveYou lost me there
>>748317836Kojima was either a genius, or had some inside information.All of that was already happening at the time
>>748319381/his/ became pure shit like 3 months in
>>748318060>Expecting the average /v/irgin to have any media literacy whatsoever
>>748317836Dude movies from the 80s were talking about AI and humanity future! why are all Kojima Dickriders like this?
>what did he see
>>748318530>a 2001 game saying generic shit about AI>"PROPHETIC"
>>748318530You didn't get it.
>>748320829>>748320571but it wasn't about AI necessarily, 'yet it just happened that the type of "AI" we have is the perfect vector for preserving and recycling junk data so it continues shitting up the online space forever, people don't even have to do it anymore
>regurgitate a bunch of shit happening in the world all together>holy frick Kojimbo is psychic what did he le seenuclear arms voting fraud gas prices middle east deportation racism propaganda weapons deals invasion
>>748317836he was truly the Nostradame of our time
I mean yeah. Except the Trump Regime is retarded so they are doing Trump TV, which is just state run propaganda. No Patriots here, only morons.
holy fuck bros, how did terry do it?
>>748321136>No Patriots here, only morons.kek this is true for anythingpoliticians and media are always more professional and smarter in fiction than they are irl
>>748319348That's literally what all philosophy is>did you agree with (insert famous philosopher) Y/N?>now use other philosophers ideas to defend your opinion on this philosopher>you want to think for yourself? sorry you aren't as smart as the philosophers and your thoughts have already been refuted by another philosopher you probably haven't heard of>also all philosophy is just bullshit mind games that don't actually matter and all the philosophers are wrong lol
I kinda cringe every time people call others prophets over things like this.They were't ahead of the times, they were reaponding to things already happening
>>748317836>Babby's first hyperreality
>>748321159did mother mary's face appear in your toast this morning
>>748321274Wrong
>>748317836Nah most of the big brained ideas in MGS2 were Fukushimas, they were a result of his frustrations in dealing with autistic gun and military Otaku forums.
>>748318530trash and spam data was a thing before slop. its just much more now
>>748318060>>748318252>>748320097>>748321384>Look ma, I can namedrop philosophers, I am so smart!
>>748322072it's rough online cause you just know 90% of those guys just saw a short video essay about philosophy and didn't actually read any work
>>748322072you want to be smart but you've wasted your life playing with digitized toy action figures and you know it
>>748321159I'm glad he's dead.
>>748322072/v/ is not beating the "most insecure about their intelligence" accusations
>>748318530no you retard they are saying that people will form groups and form their own truths developed exclusively within their community and will not accept external input and since every community is segregated there won't be a larger forum of discussion that will take to the truthessentially the colonel A.I. is describing social media, discord servers and biased e-celeb reaction videos and their fans
>>748325230that's not all he's saying, also that people will have no option but to engage with junk information that'll stay on the net and through LLMs literally being fed and created off junk information, the very tech that the global economy now depends on and governments are using for wargames, boomers are using for health advice, people are using to make fake girlfriends or boyfriends, the tech that is literally a walking frankenstein of shitty old junk info off reddit is now in every facet of human life, that's why it's so accurate when you factor in LLMs
>>748325442basically they accelerated an already horrible situation
>>748325442normally I'd agree that's what happening but with the introduction of AI there is now a lot more context added to all kinds of research and production, you can take a picture of something and AI will correctly tell you what it is, how its built and how you can reproduce it, completely circumventing all the "junk data"to give you an example, I started living alone but my dad never taught me DIY stuff so I had to learn from zero how to build chairs and shit, if it were 2006 I would need to buy books and shit but thanks to AI all I needed to do was have a 4 minute conversation with it and I immediately started going and built a bunch of furniture for my house in no time despite having absolutely zero experience, it even gave me correct suggestions on what type of tools and screws to use for hanging certain type of equipment and shelves based on the wall and weight of the shelf, for someone who has absolutely zero knowledge of this AI is a god send unironically
>>748325886I'm not saying LLMs are totally useless, they have their uses, like being very good at intepreting and sifting through code for decomps n shi, and they're fine for the occaissional advice, but the problem is due to being fed so much bloat and junk they will lie to your face with full confidence about the most basic things, you legitimately can't trust it on almost anything, makes me feel pretty bad when I use gemini or whatever occaisionally when I'm too lazy to google something, the tech works in such a way that it'll always hallucinate and always lie with full confidence, #1 issue with it and being fed this stuff will definitely make people even more tech illiterate and unable to sift through search results on their own, but it is what it is
>>748326020Yeah now that I think about it, the more people will rely on this tech the more stupid they will become as actual experience and knowledge is no longer passed on but merely adopted and parroted according to AI suggestionsAs it gets more advanced maybe AI should be able to be taught how to recognize junk data based on certain parameters, like people that can't even type properly and start spewing a bunch of made up bullshit, but even that is tricky, right now I find it funny that AI tries to be as politically correct as possible despite being hardcore feministtry it with google, type "I'm alone with an ugly boy" then type "I'm alone with an ugly girl"it will give you completely arbitrary responses because It is a completely unbiased viewpoint of the Internet that it uses to train itself, instead of learning "smart" which is probably the issue
>>748326494its already snorted through tons of types of data that the colonel is exactly describing and that data is now so jumbled and deep in the llms its never coming outpeople use the slop obtained from said data to fill the internet with AIslop (I remember reading that like 60% of research papers published online now contain AIslop, highest academia shit, this is a clown world) the AI then cannibalizes its own junk and they're like a jormungandr of shit where they'll get more n more trained on other AI data (which is easy to detect due to its patterns, but it doesnt make typos) ironically I think it'll be the opposite, to find human made content they WILL look for typos, lmao, who knows though
>>748326718>mfw one day AI will start browsing 4chan because the most amount of typos are here (probably)>mfw AI shitposts will become reality>mfw no face
>>748322618>>748322871the irony of these posts is astonishing
>>748317836>>748317941he did speak about this on one of those "Most Asked Questions" type of videos and said something along the lines that it wasnt about AI at all but about society evolving and how everything is digital nowdays
>>748329179actually here it ishttps://youtu.be/02Ah5VQrzvA?si=trr92YQloC_n9II3&t=703
>>748321159when does diet shasta happen
>>748317836He's an econ and plenty of econs and other futurists scientists predicted this all starting like end of 70s. Mgs1 and 2 are great and iirc he worked with darpa on few things or had friends there and then he shifted to Hollywood.
>>748328616fat and smelly
>>748321465I could have sworn this used to be semi-common knowledge. This board is infested with toddlers now.>>748322072Baudrillard is very well-known mainly because of The Matrix, shut-in retard, you can even see the green code in the pic.
>>748330206no need to sign your posts, this is an anonymous website
>>748330398you want it so bad lmao
>>748318252>You know, John Bonjovi predicted all of this>>748319348/lit/ is fucking trash
>748328616>748330398here you go, found a book that's more in line with your thought patterns
>>748319348/lit/ has amazing discussions if all you want to talk about are DFW vs Cormac McCarthy console wars and Nick "Buy an Ad" Land shill rhetoric.
>>748321384I thought hyperreality was when you create something obviously fictitious in order to disguise whatever the fiction is based upon as being factual, when that too is fictitious. Like how Disneyland presented an obviously fake version of America, but this was a parody or fictionalized version of a romanticized version of the country that also did not exist, but the way the fiction of Disneyland was presented implied that it was real. How does that relate to what the game is talking about?Idk, I've never read Baudillard beyond paragraphs and excerpts.>>748322072this post made people angry, but if you vaguepost by just naming a philosopher this is essentially what you are doing.
>>748331019Based Sopranos poaster
>>748331391just stop nibba, this thread is fart sniffy and pretentiosu enough as is
>the irony of these posts is astonishing
