Gamers:"A game for everyone is a game for no one."Also gamers:THIS GAME IS TOO HARD!!!! I DON'T LIKE EXTRACTION SHOOTERS I WANT ANOTHER 6V6 MULTIPLAYER GAME!!!!
Steam chart fags don't play games tho
>>748899674A game for no one is also a game for no one.
>>748899674The leftytroon marathon meltie has to be studied.
>>748899674This>>748899748Also thisYeah, I’m thinking I’m based.
>>748899893Marathon is the most fascist / chud coded game I've played in a long time. The games you play are probably way gayer.
>>748900279So much this, xister.
>>748899674>Game fails to satisfy any fantasyhmmm I wonder why its failed
>>748899674Arc Raiders is dead. But let me guess. You faggots still shit Marathon and it has less players than the other dead game?
>>748899913And I forgot to mention that I'm also trans
More like a game for everyone is a game for no one, and a game for no one is also a game for no one.
>>748899748I guess most people are Steam Chart Fags, then...
>>748900472You got him, chudxister!
>>748899674That's not "Gamers", those are the PvE-only grandpas who beg for PvE in every single multiplayer game that has been getting re leased in the last 2 years.
Threadly reminder that the problem isn't that it's a niche game, the problem is that it was developed on an AAA(A) budget.Modern game dev has lost the art of budget management.
>>748899674I am a gamer and I didn't say either of those things
>>748899674It's funny because at launch Marathon was the gamerdad blast haver special. Now the shills have completely flipped to pretending it's hardcore
>>748899674The problem is that Marathon is for too few people to sustain its own development. This constitutes a design issue, regardless of how you feel about the gameplay.
>>748899748Speaking of... how is Sony's 3.9 billy game doing?
>>748899674Someone post in game dilator please
>>748900346Team oriented games are really bad at satisfying fantasies. If there are other people on your side, they occupy a lot of your attention, leaving little room for atmosphere. And if there are voice comms, all immersion goes out of the window. Marathon is at it's best in solos, and solos mode was added late in development and you can't even play the final map in it. This is a major problem.
>>748903095Why can't both be a problem? Marathon is currently too niche even for a AA budget.
This game was alright on launch but it was severely lacking in enemy types. Part of what makes extraction shooters interesting is the interaction between you, enemy players, and the AI. When all you have to fight is 1/3rd of the Halo CE enemy lineup, that part of the game gets stale fast. They have started to remedy this, but at the same time made a bunch of sweeping changes that completely fractures the queues and makes the PvP experience worse. When fighting against an AI is the best value per hour, even the tryhards are going to do it. Ironically, Marathon is becoming very close to a traditional MMO. You farm safe PvE monsters to get gear then risk it in higher loot areas in hopes of getting better loot. It is very reminiscent of something like Tibia or Ultima, though those games didn't have safe zones to effectively farm anywhere near as safe and lucrative as Marathon. It really exacerbates the issue that already arises in these types of games, the feeling that you need to do your "chores" before you can get to the gameplay loop you're actually interested in.The medic character was very fun to play, I'm hoping in like 2 years or so they'll have updated the game to a point of being genuinely good again. Tarkov was pretty ass year 1, but they wisely decided to slap an arbitrary alpha/beta tag on it to deflect any criticism with. Now Tarkov is considered the de facto extraction shooter, the blueprint to copy from.
>>748899674just because you made your game for a specific audience, doesn't mean that you can be delusional about that audience or the size of that audience
>>748899674I love Marathon but it was normie poison. Like should it have launched with multiple gamemodes? yes thats part of every successful Bungie game. But that doesn't mean it isn't still niche in design.Today on a whim i reinstalled Destiny 2 since its like 4 days before Marton reset and fucking around the pale heart on my prismatic Warlock i felt like a fucking god. Everything died in 1-3 shots from Outbreak Perfected and i could summon 4 turrets, instant full heal, have 20 enemies including wizards and ogres shooting at my for like 10 seconds before i even felt like i was in danger of dying and having to respawn instantly a few feet away.You cannot expect the audience used to that to enjoy in the same numbers Marathons "You stay on the move, you pause and plan an ambush on pve mobs and be aware a player or mob can down you in 1.5 seconds and thats not hyperbole.Now i enjoy that. Particularly in Solos Marathon as it is now is a tense but extremely entertaining experience. Having surround sound headphones on and being the famous solid snake getting in, taking out a POI full of clankers, filling my boots with fancy tat and extracting without another player even noticing me is great. Laying an ambush to lure in and kill a player with claymores or something? even better. But i'm under no allusions i am anything but a niche sicko. The Destiny audience would have gone on their first perimeter run, hit North Relay and got slimed by a regular clanker and ragequit and gone back to playing destiny while being a passive agressive bitch for not being the audience for both like Tassi and Aztec Ross did.I get it needs to be more welcoming, and i am eager to try the new modes as i frankly prefer the movement and gameplay to Destinys floaty bullshit but i do wonder how this will be balanced for the normies. I know on tuesday solo extraction is nerfing the mobs which is no skin off my back as a stealthy steven but will that effect peoples impressions?
>>748899674>THIS GAME IS TOO HARD!!!!>in-game magnetic bullets and IR sensors to light up enemieskek
>>748904197If you invest too heavily in the autoaim stat your gun is going to suck ass. The good attachments don't give that stat.
marathonsisters, our game is too sophisticated for the normie ciscattle. we won bigly
>>748904197What if there is more to difficulty than aiming and enemy detection?
Isn't this the latest bungie cope? Nobody really thinks the game is too hard in a sense of "too hard to keep an audience". There are the regular shitters that drop out because they disliked the PvP, but the game literally is just frustrating, not difficult. Queing up in this game is misery. The only times where the majority of feedback I saw was positive, was when they simplified the que, aka free kits for everyone. That cut down game prep to basically nothing, so dying and losing shit was not frustrating.
>>748899832Came here to say this
>>748904097This is the most accurate post in the thread.Bungie made a game for a niche audience and got that niche audience. But it turns out when your game costs a quarter of a billion to make, you need more money coming in than a niche audience can provide.This is why they're moving to PVE, but I think that ship has sailed (and badly) and people are barely going to be aware this patch comes out because GTA6 will only be a few weeks old and still commanding 99% of all Youtube, streamer, and social media attention.
>>748904326>Marathon's campaign may have been 'too intelligent to win,' say insiders
>>748904289>the autoaim stat
Everything about this game is kino as fuck except the genre it's stuck in, I hope they get the runway to redeem it because presentationally (besides kneecapping themselves with hero wank) its the coolest shooter I've maybe ever played
>>748903709The point is that a failed AA is a much more normal problem. It's happened many, many times in the history of video games. Yes it sucks, but the video game market is inherently risky; a little too much budget, a little too much ambition, or too little luck, and the game disappears in a swirl of lost money. Modern devs have created a new problem involving hundreds of millions of dollars being flushed down the toilet.
Maratrooners have spent more time shilling the game here as free marketers and spent more time in these trooner-discord-pedoera driven threads, than they have spent time in the game.That's all one needs to know about the game really.
>>748904289>>748904340desperate.
The Marathon comeback has to be studied.
>>748904675You haven't even played the game, I'd slime the hell out of you. I bet you suck ass at FPS in general, 99% of /v/ posters do.
>>748899674I’m a dad gamer with bad aim and reflexes who only has a few hours of time to play on the weekends every week. If there isn’t a grenade class like Junkrat or a weapon like a Needler or a n00b tube where I can run around like a jackass ruining people’s fun by spamming grenades then I don’t wanna play.
>>748904723ok, here's your (You) because you sure as shit won't get a sale.
>>748904812What the fuck are you talking about? Stupid ass noob trying to talk about a game he's never played. Lol. You yell at the TV when football is on, too?
>>748904702The comeback is in 2 months.
>>748904881>football please keep posting
>>748904578If you put a gun to my head and said I had to either play Marathon or shill Marathon..idk. Shilling might be less painful.
>>748904702The only thing that must be studied is the final rape.
>>748904946You think you're making sense, but you don't. Duel me in Quake or shut up you LARPing ass noob.
Marathon threads should be deleted on sight.>>>/vg/
>>748905123God forbid a coomer or console war thread gets pushed off the catalog.Gas yourself, retard.
>>748905123You tell em brahmin, /v/ got too proudy and now its our ai slop board and games arent allowed those bloddy bastard britisher things!
>>748905123We left /vg/, actually. It's too fast.>>>/vm/2974337
>>748899674A game for everyone is a game for no one.A game for no one is also a game for no one.
>>748905389the first half of the /vg/ thread is damage control from shitting on the game.
>>748899748I have more in game hours in a few games than the current player base of this turd, cry and seethe
